July 5, 2025 • 38 mins
What does it take to emerge from the shadow of a music legend and create your own path? In this compelling episode, we sit down with Teddy Riley Jr., better known as Yung Tash, who's blazing his own trail in the music industry while honoring the legacy of his father, new jack swing innovator Teddy Riley.
Yung Tosh takes us through his fascinating journey from Atlanta's vibrant music scene to Las Vegas, where he's established himself as both a respected DJ and emerging recording artist. Despite his famous lineage, Tash shares how his father instilled the value of independence early on: "My pops taught me young, you gotta get it on your own. You're going to appreciate what you have more if you work for it by yourself." This ethos has clearly shaped his approach to the music business.
The conversation reveals Tash's strategic career development – starting as a producer creating beats for artists like G Herbo and K Camp, then leveraging DJing to network within Vegas' entertainment scene when he was too young to experience the nightlife. His insights on testing new music directly with club audiences showcase a savvy understanding of artistic development: "Does this make a girl who's 21, who having her birthday, does it make her move at 12 o'clock at night? If it does, I know I got something."
We explore the challenges Vegas faces in developing homegrown musical talent compared to cities like Atlanta, where the industry connections run deep. Young Tash offers thoughtful perspectives on music ownership, the modern streaming landscape, and balancing creativity with business acumen. His observations on staying authentic in an industry full of "fake individuals" reveals wisdom beyond his years: "Stay in your realm of people you know, the people that you started out with."
Don't miss Young Tash's breakdown of his new single "Saint" and details about his upcoming album featuring collaborations with Trey Songz and his father. Follow Young Tash on social media to catch his next DJ set or release, and experience the sound of an artist who's honoring his roots while defining his own future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Vegas Circle Podcast with your hosts,
paki and Chris.
We are people who arepassionate about business,
success and culture, and this isour platform to showcase the
people in our city who make ithappen.
On today's podcast, we've got aspecial guest man.
Definitely no strangers to themusic game.
Been touring with Trey SongzJust dropped a new single called
Saint.
The straight fire that we werejust talking about we're going
(00:20):
to get into today.
He's carving his own lane inthe music industry, being the
legacy of his father, legendaryTeddy Riley.
We're going to bring him to thecircle and I didn't realize.
Your real name is Teddy RileyJr.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Teddy Riley Jr.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Man Better known as Young Tosh.
Yes sir, yes sir, welcomewelcome welcome, man.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Man, it's a pleasure having me.
Man, it's a pleasure it's abeen in the grind man.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my pops taught me young, you
know, you gotta, you gotta getit, you know what I'm saying get
it on your own.
Yeah, you know it was ablessing for me because being
around like in the industry andjust being the son of somebody
who's done a lot in the game,you know I'm saying you would
(00:56):
think it's like handed out oryou know, I'm saying like nah,
he told us, look do your ownthing.
Work for it.
You know.
You know what I mean.
You're going to love it more.
You're going to appreciate whatyou have more if you work for
it by yourself.
You know what I'm saying.
I feel like anything I was evergiven.
I just broke it, or?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
you know what?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm saying didn't care about it, like it's like
all right, whatever, you knowwhat I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So it's like you know most people like when you're
growing up with somebody,especially the music, right,
business is one thing, right,you know you learn business
lessons, you do it, but musicit's also teaching those same
lessons, absolutely right.
I think you learn it in kind ofa different way, at least from
what I would assume.
Right, because yeah, mostpeople do music as like a
passion project, but when you'regrowing up, you see more in the
business life.
Yeah, you're seeing the successpart of it yeah you learn
different things.
(01:40):
I think that most peoplewouldn't learn, like what kind
of like experiences that youknow really get instilled in you
, that you kind of learn to lookat it from a different
perspective?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
yeah, I mean like just being in the studio with my
pops, seeing them, like youknow, work on like just the
little things, like the beat andeverything you know I'm saying,
and then seeing people come inand break down the business and
stuff like that.
Like that's what intrigued methe most, like you know.
I'm saying like dang, it's aprocess.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I won't be a fly on the wall.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh my God, I can't even imagine it's actually
incredible to see like it's sucha blessing.
That's why I like I think itcame to me like really easy.
Like you know what I'm saying.
They make mistakes, so I knowhe's made mistakes, you know.
(02:26):
So for me it's like just takingthose mistakes that he's made
and try and do it my way.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know what I mean and fix it.
That's right, yeah, in your ownlane man, and I can respect
that.
He probably respects that too.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Man man, your blood vessel, literally literally
running through.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But how did you get into creating your own sound and
what got you into saying, okay,this is what I want to do?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So I grew up in Atlanta.
I grew up in Atlanta, georgia,yeah.
So my mom I lived with my mommajority of my life.
So my dad I'd see him weekendsand then Christmas, anytime he
majority of my life, so my dad,my dad, I'll see him, you know,
weekends and then Christmas andyou know, anytime he really
wanted to see me, like you knowI'm saying, or if he had time,
you know, we'll see each other.
Yeah, so it was just uh beingin that realm.
You know, atlanta is just sohuge in the music industry and
(03:15):
it's just a strong, you know,like you know culture.
So, uh, just being out there, Iwas just like, you know, let me
try it, let me see what's goingon.
So I had a couple friends, acouple family friends, shout out
ad and you know I'm saying theslaughter gang team and uh, you
know 21 and hazel and everybodyout there, they, you know, they,
they kind of just helped meshape a sound and you know, mike
(03:36):
will and all of them like justbeing around, that type of
culture, yeah, you know, justhad me in the studio making
beats.
I started making beats at firstlike I wasn't even rapping for
them, or yeah, yeah for them,yeah so I did.
I did records for g herbo rob,49, young in may um k camp.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You're saying that's so easy.
Yeah, you got a resume.
Yeah, I got a little.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I got a little got a little catalog but um, yeah,
just started making records outfor them and because I just
really love, you know, rap,music, trap music, hip hop, you
know what I'm saying.
My dad had a little foot inthat too.
So you know, just being aroundthat sound was just interesting
to me.
So, you know, I was out there,started making beats, and then
(04:22):
one of my cousins was just likeyou know, you should just start
rapping on them.
You know, writing for otherartists or doing your own thing,
like just see what happens Imean.
The worst that happened is sayyou know this sucks.
You know what I mean can't bescared right so I started
rapping and, uh, you know, witheverything takes repetition.
So you know, just being in thestudio all the time just getting
good, getting good, gettinggood, um, and then eventually
somebody was like you knowthat's you actually got a.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You actually got a talent.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, all right, you got something there.
What's up?
So uh yeah, that was, uh,that's how it kind of started
out.
And then, um, I moved out hereto Vegas, uh, after high school
and I just stayed in the studio,like that.
That's all I knew out here,cause I mean, of course, being
being in Vegas, you gotta be 21.
I was graduating, I was 18 19you know I'm saying so.
(05:06):
It was like let me let me justwork where it's gonna go, yeah,
let me just work.
So it was constantly sending outbeats, and you know I'm saying
talking to people networking,going out here and there to
different you know functions,meeting certain people, and yeah
, it, just it.
It took off from there and thenI picked up rapping again,
cause I stopped once I leftAtlanta, picked up rapping and
(05:30):
yeah, now I'm.
Now I'm here.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
man Sounds like an evolution right, Like it's kind
of go through those processesand try to.
You know, beats are alwaysobviously important, but I think
beats are one thing, cause youget a feel for it a little bit,
but when you're trying to ratesomething that's actually coming
from you, it seems like a hardthing to develop and navigate
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was so hard to dictate whether it was like,
especially being around family,your family's always going to be
like, yeah, that's dope.
Some of them my family would belike that's horrible.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That shit sucks, he's good.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I mean around my family.
You know everybody's just soloving and just you know, caring
that it's just like there'llalways be that like oh, like
this is dope, yeah, of course,Even if it sucks Like it's just
like.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh, it's awesome, Just keep doing your thing, just
keep rolling.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah.
So it took me going out andgetting into Vegas party scene
Interesting and for me to dothat, I started DJing, Got it,
so that's where that came in.
Met a couple cool people Cole,the Bloomers Team why Not Gino,
(06:42):
all of them over at Dre's andstarted picking up DJing and
then got my first residency atBig Jerk, which is a cool little
local spot out here, if y'allknow about it Big Jerk.
That's a good food if you knowabout it.
You know about it so at nighttime it turns into a whole
different atmosphere there's twolocations, right?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
yeah, I'm not sure if one of Some of them are still
going, but there used to be onein Southern Highlands.
There's one on Sahara.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
The one on Sahara is the one that's the club, the
lounge.
So they gave me my firstresidency, they gave me my first
break and you know I was makinga little money $300, $400 here,
you know, just DJing.
But I was just so in love withit so I didn't care Like people
(07:26):
would look at me and be like thekey word love, I love it.
Yep, that's the separation, youknow.
I'm saying like so.
For me it was just doing that,you know, constantly.
And then I got to meet so manypeople, network with so many
people, that you just you knoweverybody goes out oh yeah, you
know, especially in vegas, yeah,like if you're, you're gonna
run into somebody 1000.
So that was it for me.
It was just you know doing that.
And then, um yeah, djing wentwell.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I did a whole, I've done everywhere at Zouk day,
like after hours what's the best, one you two, or what's the one
you like, the best for yourself, I love.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Big Jerk.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm not gonna lie, I love Big.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Jerk, everybody be like what days?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
is it pop?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
there usually.
So I do Sundays.
Sunday's is like Sunday service, that's like a huge thing out
there.
If you're ever in town, pleasego.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And get some good food and listen to some music.
Yeah, get good food, listen tomusic.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, whatever, it's just such a vibe.
It's like it's a community inthere.
I love that spot Splash.
Splash is a dope spot.
We used to have this spotcalled Inferno.
Do you guys remember that In?
You guys remember that?
I don't know.
I know Splash, was that the?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
club.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, it was the club .
Oh yeah, yeah I remember that?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Where's my fernoat?
Is that downtown?
That's off of Flamingo.
Yeah, oh, shoot, okay, I'm wayoff.
Right behind the palms, rightbehind the palms, I'm way off.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I don't even know where that is.
Three years, it was huge.
Yeah, I remember that and umthey gave me a residency and
that's where like my brandreally started to pop because I
started doing druski and bigboogie would come and t grizzly
yg like those cats would come inthere, so it would you know.
I'm saying it makes sense forme now, yep, so that's where,
like, the brand really startedtaking off and then, you know,
(09:01):
started rapping and startedrapping.
So it was like a littleintervene, like I just put
everything down, started DJingand then started rapping again.
I was like, let me control thesound a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, you know when you have.
I don't know if you were goingto ask this, but do you feel
like the DJ scene is kind ofoversaturated and your mom is
technically like a DJ?
Now, right, yeah, I meanEspecially in Vegas, right In
Vegas, for sure.
And now you got them inbrunches and clubs.
But you know what?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
For me.
I figured out that it's a lanefor everybody.
Like I have friends who do EDMon Fremont, they do hip hop on
Fremont, they do, and they makegood money and like they don't
have to be on the strip.
I know people who just doprivate parties, who just do
corporate, because there'scorporate people out here and
(09:49):
corporate where the money is too.
That's where the money is.
Any corporate event I've everdone the pay is amazing, where
the money is so corporate forsure.
Like I know people in that laneLike it's just so many lanes
you could be in so and so for meit never felt like it was just,
oh, it's just so many people.
(10:09):
And then the people I do know,like it's literally a community,
like we all know.
I know Franny and DJ Great toJT and DJ so Hype, and you know
those cats, like I've beenaround them, dj Direct and you
know those type of cats.
Like it feels like a community.
Everybody knows each other.
It's always love, it's abrotherhood.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know what I mean.
It's really a brotherhood.
You know what I'm sayingEverybody looks out.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So I never got that vibe of just feeling like I'm in
a jungle where everybody's justby themselves.
So it's definitely a blessing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's cool to be out here and just be in that type of
brotherhood, you know, twoweeks after high school.
So you got to be honest with mebecause Atlanta we've both been
to Atlanta many times Atlantais food, culture, the whole nine
.
But then you come to a spotlike Vegas.
Yeah, why do you feel like aVegas artist?
(10:53):
Don't pop compared to othermarkets like Vegas or New York
or Chicago or LA or somethinglike that I think you know my
opinion on that is definitelylike In Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
it feels like everybody's related in a sense.
So it's like you could be mycousin.
You know what I'm saying andyour music's dope.
But my other cousin who livesin my neighborhood is Gucci Mane
.
Oh my God, like this is my,like we roll together.
Like you know what I'm saying.
We don't make music Like thisis just my homie.
(11:27):
So let me get you in the studiowith him.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That type of stuff doesn't happen in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's ridiculous yeah, you know what I mean.
You're the first person to everbring that up.
That's a great point.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
That's what I see in Atlanta.
Everybody does know everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And they want to help you too.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, and they want to help you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
One If you've ever been to Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's a black culture.
You know what I'm saying.
So we love each other.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I mean, you know, of course you have your day-to-day.
We call it Wakanda.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You know as is.
Yeah, of course, just like anycity, any city, but everybody
pretty much loves each other.
You know what I'm saying, likeit's, you know, I'm saying
clothes and fashion and likefashion's huge out there.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It is, yeah, so just it's black hollywood in a great
way.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, in a great way, like everybody's just
succeeding in that, in that, inthat environment.
So it's like that's one thing.
I think vegas is missing andone thing I would love to bring
here.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You know what I mean like you think it's not here,
because it's like so siloed in away, because when you bring in
entertainment here, right,they're performing, and then
they go back to wherever theycame from, right, yeah, I think
there needs to be something herethat's going to keep people
here.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, and I think that's coming, because to me, I
think Vegas is a young city.
It's super-duper young.
You know what I mean, witheverything that's just coming.
We just got the Raiders Stadium.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
We just got a football team, we're about to
get the A's.
We're about to get the A's.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
We're probably going to get an NBA team.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You know what I mean.
That's not what I hope.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, like those type of things would keep people
here.
You know what I'm saying.
We're just missing a few things.
You know what I mean, and Likethey're getting like— Two point
O's coming, yeah, like they'regetting that.
I see Mark Wahlberg is buildingsomething out here.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Warner Brothers, yeah, yeah,like, yeah, I've seen that, so
like it's just so much— that'shappening Downtown Summerlin
would be great yeah.
Or not Downtown Summerlin InSummerlin, in Summerlin.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Right, right right have that scene?
Yeah, so basically they got tobe entrenched in this community
so that way you could beconnected and you could put
other people on Right, so thatway you're like in the area.
Yeah, it just has to besomething.
You know it's not really youknow, we're young you know, just
trying to figure it out so youknow, it's interesting that you
brought up like the Gucci, likefrom different neighborhoods, so
(13:52):
it's like it's for a long time,for a long time yeah, you know
I'm saying like people beenliving out like the 80s.
You know what I'm saying.
It's like it's, it's alwaysbeen like that, you know so so
they grew up there and stayedthere and stayed there, you had
to move here and you don't knownobody like right.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know people back in an international hub I've
been here from.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm originally from Chicago, but Chris is from
Detroit.
But I felt like Vegas was likean international hub.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
But now we're starting to get our character
yeah Right, yeah, yeah, yeah,and it's funny.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I remember I had this conversation with one of my
guys at a cut above at thebarbershop and they always were
saying, like everybody else thatmoves out here is the ones
messing up Vegas.
But Vegas really does have aculture.
It does.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It has a foundation it does, it does I mean, like I
hear stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Like you know, the mob used to be out here a long
time ago.
So, like you know, italianshave it a little bit out here,
100%.
You know, I see a lot ofdifferent people.
Like you know, I see a lot ofPolynes.
It's getting against culture.
It's getting against you knowwhat I'm saying.
It's just it takes time, youknow.
So eventually I feel like a bigstar is going to break through.
You know, might be me, younever know.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You never know Rolling with that Saint man,
that Saint is fire man.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Look, I'm trying to keep it together man, I'm trying
to keep it together.
Talk about, like, are youactually signed or are you
independent thing going on withvidya over at, uh, gamma gamma
(15:17):
records?
So that's okay.
Did you say nvidia?
It's called vidya, okay, yeah,yeah, I'm like damn, yeah, it's
called.
Yeah, it's called vidya.
Um, it's like this likedistribution platform that they
have uh, it's the it's throughgamma, I guess gamma records,
which is run by larry jackson.
I'm not sure if you ever heardof it.
Yes, yeah, so he, he runs thatuh sector over there, so I have
something with them, but nothinglike where, like, my publishing
is in play got it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I don't know how do you like this like direct to
consumer play, like the littlerussells of the world what he's
doing.
I love that, I do.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I love that because then like his family can eat
forever you know what I meanlike even long after he's gone.
You know what I mean.
So I think that was so dope,like how he's pushing that like
man be independent, like can youjust imagine if drake was
independent?
That'd be wild.
He'd be like rich by far.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
He'd be like and and that was the whole thing like
elon musk, yeah like if he waslike the labels are making maybe
two or three times what he'smaking like you know what I mean
.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, drake was a rocket, yeah like you know, I'm
saying like and, by the way,incredible artists, like
incredible, like, even with likemichael jackson, you know, I
mean like michael jackson owneda lot of people's publishing,
like the beatles and everybodyhe owned a part of.
Something like when you seesony, like the, the sony I.
I can't remember what it waspart of sony that he had, yeah,
but he owned like majority ofpeople's publishing over there
(16:32):
that's crazy.
So that's why he was just superduper powerful in the industry,
not just only as an artist, butas a businessman too as well.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's where he really shifted, even his own,
like portfolio of money hebecame really rich.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Not from his records, yeah, not even from his like
you know, when you own thebeatles like, yeah, I heard that
whole story like that and thenlike eminem, like like come on,
yeah, I heard that whole storylike that's it, and then like
Eminem, like ridiculous, come onlet's be real, that's
ridiculous, yeah, so like, areyou seeing different ways now
because, like before thestreaming service, you get your
money off of that are you seeingdifferent ways now of probably
learning from your father ofthings that had worked for him?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
yeah making these adjustments and pivots like yeah
, I mean like different ways toeven through, like social media
like a lot of people's music isblowing up through, like tiktok,
you know, like an instagramreels and snapchat.
You know I'm saying just likedifferent little stuff, like
people are doing to make money,like I know artists who strictly
just put out music on tiktok,specifically, specifically, like
just make tiktok records andthat's selling, that's crazy
(17:27):
that you would have thatbusiness mindset of just TikTok
only yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Because a lot of I think their algorithm is really
good at getting you fast andlong exposure.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, they do the best job about making things go
viral, right, right, and thenlike you know, like with new
technology, like your phone'salways listening, Everything's
always like, so like you'reconstantly in the algorithm.
You know what I mean.
So, in the algorithm, you knowwhat I mean.
So you could just make a simplelittle beat, you know what I'm
saying, and put an ocean infront of it and put it behind
the ocean and put it on tiktok.
Now that video has 900 000likes and that's you know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm saying you're making, you could do that money
off.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Uh, that's a real, just that.
You know, I mean real statement.
So it's so many ways you canget your music out there like
it's.
It's pretty incredible, it'slike it's mind-boggling at this
point, so I don't see a lot ofpeople start to do it behind,
like paywalls, right yeah youhave these different
subscription-based models whatthey do?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
is they do these shorts on tiktok?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
give you a little snippet right, but follow me on
uh-huh what's the the terms ofthe p, I can't remember the
patreon right patreon and hit mypaywall so you can get my full
album.
I've seen that.
I wonder if that's kind of likewhere you see a double dip at
that point.
Yeah, yeah, it's incredible howpeople are doing it.
I think it's dope so stayingindependent.
If you could just get yourmoney and just stay out there.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They're trying to shut it down, but to me, I think
that's like you said it letsyou own your own content.
It makes you the, you're themost money, you're the
entertainer, you're the artist.
I don't know why people likeyou know really hate on it, like
let it go I don't, I don't likeit, man, but you know it's, I
don't.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I still don't even find anything wrong with signing
to labels, like you know, likesometimes I like, I see people
just need that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like you know, I mean like structure yeah, structure
you know, I mean like I meanjust drake in general, just
being able to put out, I meannot even market, and then put
your album out tonight, yeah,and it can go.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That is true, because to me it seems a lot easier,
like if I'm a person I just wantto focus on.
I don't want to worry aboutdistributing, I don't want to
worry about marketing, I justwant to put it out.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You know what I mean like a lot of people talent here
, like it's a lot of good talenthere, I agree they undershadow
a lot too I go to some place onthe whole like random spots.
I'm like damn yeah yeah, likethere's a bunch of spots where
I've been to and I've seen localartists perform and they sound
amazing, super talented.
(19:40):
Yeah, but because like theyjust don't have that back and
push it's like, you know it's up.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So that's why I hate it that we don't, because we're
the we're like the internationalhub of everything.
Everybody comes to Vegas.
Who doesn't?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
come to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And it sucks that we don't have that battery pack
Right?
I remember we had Mike P onRight right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
absolutely.
And he was mentioning that andhe was saying, like the Dre's
and things of the world, and yougot all the top artists that
you're paying all this big moneyand then Vegas is kind of left,
which kind of sucks, man, yeah,man.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So we try to there's a little hole in the wall they
go to.
Like you know, I think Chicagohas a Fox Theater, like Detroit
right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You go to these little spots and you can hear
the local talent really try tomake their.
New York has different spots.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Vegas.
Everything here is gearedtowards.
If you're doing that, you're-.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You're out of pocket now You're out of pocket, gonna
take for a local artist to makeit to a?
A dre's nightclub, uh, daylightnightclub, uh, you know what
I'm saying?
A zook, uh, omnia like it'sgonna take ones yeah it's gonna
take that for them to okay.
Now we have an artist, you knowI mean, I think, that's what we
(20:43):
have.
We haven't embraced anybody yetwho's an artist, and I think
that's to come it's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
you know, hey man, it's gotta stay here.
Look, man, you know what I'mfollowing.
You come from a blood.
You come from a bloodline it'sand artists, and I think that's
to come.
It's got to be you, hey man,they got to stay here.
They can't come and make it.
You come from a bloodline, it'sgot to be you.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Man, you know, I'm just following in God's
footsteps.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Whatever he got planned for me, I like that
humbleness, you know, whateverhe got, planned for me.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I'm super-duper grateful for do well like but
what happens?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
when they do well here, they leave, yeah, and so I
think you have to be in thathome right culture, like right,
you don't really rep las vegas.
I think it doesn't happen a lotfrom a music.
No, it doesn't, it doesn't.
But you know, I see they, theythey take advantage of, like you
know, you see the edm djs doingreally well yeah, you know,
like they embrace that.
They embrace that very much.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
But what's the hip?
At least the hip hop, maybe thejazz aspect of it.
Yeah, you don't see that You'reright.
But you are right, edm gettingoh my God, stay here, stay
getting paid, and they'regetting.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just seen John Summit, likenot too long ago at Live or
something like that.
His show is amazing, his showis super amazing.
But man, but man, he's making alot of money is he?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't even know who that is.
I ain't even gonna front, I'mnot even gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I don't know who that is, edm one of the biggest in
the world right now.
I don't know EDM.
I know Shaq does EDM.
I only know cause.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I saw that.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I can't get into EDM music.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I can't get into it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I can party to it, but I can't listen.
I can't, I can't listen to iton my day how do you get your
music out, man?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
is it because you seem like you got an organic way
of putting it out?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
for me it's just like instagram you know phone to
phone, like you know, likeyoutube.
Okay for me you know, like getit out directly yeah, just write
directly to the people who, wholike me, I feel like first you
have to just write directly tothe people who, who like me, I
feel like first you have to justhave this mass of people who
are invested into you, you knowwhat I mean and just keep
flooding them, keep feeding them.
(22:37):
You know I'm saying you know yougo to a mcdonald's and they
have your favorite, you knowfood over there, like you're
gonna keep going back becausethey keep giving it to you.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, that's what you have todo.
Just give them what they like,just keep giving them what they
like.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I always wonder this is, like you know, like a lot of
people make it big by gettingtheir first feature right and
they pay a lot of money forthose first features right.
And I always get curious.
Like we know, most people thatare trying to come up don't have
200, 300 now pay-per-facefeature.
What do they do get investorsfor it?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
like, yeah, I mean, I think that's part.
That's a part of the musicindustry for sure, like I know a
lot of artists who've beenbacked by investors and stuff
like that and it's worked forthem.
Yeah, it's worked like there'sthere's probably countless of
artists in the game right now-what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
like jack harlow, for sure, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah
, like absolutely I wouldn'tdoubt it.
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt her.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Like you know, the sexy reds or you know.
I'm saying like her record wentstupid viral, yeah, immediately
, and then like the Glorillasand stuff like that, like that's
how it starts, and then theinvestors.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
What's the guy's name ?
That independent that blows updoes everything independent?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
the long run.
I know what you're talkingabout.
I can't think of his name.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
He has an amazing concept that he ah shit, you
know.
You know exactly who he is.
He's done a bunch of music he'slike is he Middle Eastern?
Yeah, I think so.
You know exactly who I'mtalking about.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Russ, russ, russ.
Is he Middle Eastern?
I might be wrong.
Maybe I think so.
He looks like a Middle Eastern.
I think so I might be wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Apologize, russ, if I'm getting your dissent wrong,
but one thing that I heard saywhy would you pay like a million
dollars down, take a loan outand pay that monthly that?
And I was like I never heard anartist say that before.
That's smart.
So, like, for example, whenhe's doing a concert, let's say
you got to rent out.
(24:19):
Like.
Let's say, you rent out MadisonSquare Garden, whatever it is,
you got to rent out MadisonSquare Garden, right, I don't
know, but then you would takethe loan out for it and then pay
them monthly.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Wow, I never thought of that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Because to keep the low overhead.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
That might be true.
Yeah, that might be true.
I've never seen anything likethat.
That's crazy.
Yeah, russ is his name, russ.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, we brought him up a couple times In the
independent realm, I think he'shuge he's huge yeah he's a beast
.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
His fan base is humongous.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, he's a beast with it.
Yeah, so you got the new singleout, saint.
Yeah, is it true?
You're working on a new albumtoo?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I am.
Yeah, Okay, I am.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I am.
So what can we expect with thenew album?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Just a fun sound Like I'm kind of just showing you
who I am music that I like.
You know what I mean.
So this is like long overduefor me, okay, um, because I've
just never putting out a body ofwork.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
So it's like you know how many songs are we working
on?
11 or 12, okay, 11 or 12, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, like I I like that number.
Like you know what I mean, Idon't want to give you too much,
but you know, give you a littlebit you can sit with.
You know what I mean.
So just showing you how likeI'm more diverse than just you
know the turned up hip hop like.
I got a.
I got a couple records on thereyou know what I mean love that.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
One thing I've seen more too, is like I know I got
the new music, but I've seenlike now, a lot of music that
I'm seeing is like one and ahalf minutes.
Oh yeah, I believe in that.
Short and sweet, yeah, I thinkthat's kind of like the new
thing that's making an impact.
I believe in thatcold-heartedly because you know,
with our generation.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
you know what I'm saying Like everything is so
like Fast.
You know you read somethingreal quick.
All right, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I'm out of here Literally two seconds.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
My tears can't hold the attention at all.
It's like the be two minutes,depending on how good the song
is.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
So you're not playing to the old heads is what you
say no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's incredible tell me about.
So?
Are you working with yourfather?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
on this.
Yeah, my dad has a couplerecords on it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, that'd be fun, so I'm curious what's it like
working with him, as far as thehonesty it's?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
actually fun.
It's super fun.
I mean, for me it's like seeingthe way he thinks and then like
he can look back and be like oh, this is how you guys are doing
because, like what I was likevery interesting, yeah, like
with him like, don't get mewrong, like in technology he's
like here, yeah, but like I showhim like kind of like a quicker
(27:00):
way, you know, I mean justbeing like a millennial like, or
not even like gen z yeah youknow, I'm saying just we can get
here like, yeah, right, likeyou know what I mean.
So just seeing that, because Iknow back in the day they used
to play stuff out.
You know I'm saying they'rereal composers.
Yeah, producers back in the dayare really composers, so they
used to do stuff like that.
Nowadays you do everything fromyour laptop.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
That's ridiculous sometimes people do it from
their phone.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I know people who record from their phone and it's
studio quality.
That's wild.
That's ridiculous, yeah, okay,so I'm just showing them
different ways and just adifferent sound too.
You know what I mean Likewhat's new right now, and then
kind of just mixing the two, youknow what I mean, so still
giving you that old little feel.
You know what I'm saying a funvibe like you know I mean.
(27:48):
So when will your new album?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
come out?
Is that 2025?
Yeah, it'll be 2025 summertimesummertime.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Okay, so it's coming quick so it might be done.
Yeah, I mean for right now.
You know I've just been seeing,you know, the different
reactions from saint.
You know I'm saying getting itplayed in different clubs and
you know I'm saying I've beenspun in miami, houston, atlanta.
So just seeing those vibes, youknow what mean, and seeing how
it would go, and now I'm lockedand loaded, I'm ready to release
again.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Do you ever, especially because you got the
pulse right out of the crowd ofbeing a DJ and all that do you
ever just throw on your ownmusic?
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I mean for me, like I look at, like a huge
inspiration of it is his records.
I'm gonna be honest with youcomplex con yeah, just did you
see.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You seen his performance and I'm gonna be
honest, I forgot how.
I forgot all the hits that hehad.
See, he is a beast.
He's a beast and not rapping atall, just playing, just all the
music records that he produced.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
So why can't somebody who's a rapper do the same
thing?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I mean it makes sense If you can DJ.
Yeah Y'all, look like y'allcould be family man, yeah, yeah.
Oh my everybody said that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's my God.
You said it, that's my God.
Man Shout out to Cho.
That's my dog, you're a talentto do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely soyou do play your music just to
feel the pulse.
I do, just to feel the pulse,just to see.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And then also for me it's like getting reactions like
how do people?
Because for me it's likereading people.
Being a dj, you have to read.
You know you have to fill theroom.
You got to know what's going on.
Yeah, so for me it's like justseeing.
You know, does this make a girlwho's 21, who just turned 21,
who having her birthday, does itmake her move at 12 o'clock at
night?
If it does, I know I gotsomething you know what I mean.
(29:31):
And if it don't, then maybe thissong isn't for her.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
So that's just for me , that's how I kind of take
DJing now.
But I think that'll be superdope for rappers and if you guys
could imagine if you could justgo and just play your records.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I mean it makes sense .
I always wanted that because,like you know, comedy people do
this right they go do stand-upcomedy If a joke don't hit.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I change my joke, I change my joke and then I go do
something different.
That's a very good point.
Go back to the drawing board.
Go back to the drawing boardand tweak a little thing here
and there.
Yeah, like Drake goes toHouston and he'll go to one of
the regular just clubs that'sgoing on and play one of his and
just see what it does.
You got to see.
(30:13):
You got to see.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know what I'm saying?
That's an immediate reaction,right yeah, I'm surprised they
don't do that more often.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I mean the sound might change and you don't know,
because you're just stuck inyour ways.
Like artists, you know kind ofget stuck in that.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh, like artists, you know, kind of get stuck in that
.
Oh well, I've had a hit or two.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So yeah, you know it is what it is.
I could keep doing this andit's gonna work.
No, buddy, yeah, you gotta makea doubt, you know, and
everything's constantly changingnow.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So it's like yeah, I get it.
What's the biggest lesson youthink you learned from your
father, whether just business orlife in general, man?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
man for me.
Um, I think, uh, stayingconsistent with anything that
you do you know what I mean andhave a regimen.
You know what I mean.
Stay on top of your stuff, stayhonest to people, that's one
thing.
Stay honest and believe in yourcraft for sure, because you
(31:03):
never know what's your regimenlike Are you in the studio
pretty much every day, like areyou in the studio.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I'm in the studio every day.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
There is not a day I miss excellent yeah, no, I'm in
the studio every single day, andthen for me, like during the
weekends, that's when I dj, soI'll be in the studio during the
day yeah, I'm able to work onmy craft and then, uh, at
nighttime I'm in somebody'snightclub you know so, but it it
helps because it keeps me stillnetworking, shaking certain
(31:30):
hands, staying in the mix, youknow, I mean I don't know how
important that is, man man it'sextremely nowadays, especially
so.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
There's the music industry too, right more
important, yeah, you have toknow.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And then you know, just keep your face card good
and everything you know.
I mean just staying in the mixand you know being yourself, be
yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, you know so do you feel like it get really,
really fake at times too?
Yeah, how do you deal with that?
Because that's what drives mecrazy.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Oh my god, I mean this.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It's fake individuals everywhere yeah, that's true,
but don't you feel like it'smore in the music space though?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
absolutely okay.
Everybody's, not themselves.
So just stay in your realm ofpeople you know, just stay
around the people you know, thepeople that you started out with
.
Yeah, stay with them.
You don't have to beeverybody's friend.
Yeah, you know, at the end ofthe day it's a business and I
think a lot of people shift thatand they're like, oh, this is
(32:21):
my God.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
This is my partner.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You know what I'm saying?
My partner is my brother.
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
That's why I respect, like not to change the subject
but like LeBron for a reason isbecause he stayed with the same
crew from the jungle.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
The same guys from high school.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, and they're all rich, all these guys.
Man, they stayed with the sameclique.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, why can't we just stay with the guys who love
you and want to see you shineand you want to see them shine
and want to see you shine andyou want to see them shine,
protect you too.
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
I feel like we start gettingaround people who just, you know
, kind of just leech.
You know, I'm saying that's onething I caught, like from being
out here, like people do leechon and it's like, ah man, just
rock with the people who rockwith you, because once you start
(33:01):
switching up, that's whenthings go bad I get getting bad,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
But business advice, man.
What's one piece of businessadvice just as an artist, you
know that or maybe just whatevercomes to you as far as a gym
that maybe has helped you.
Maybe, now that you've beenworking every single day about
to put that album out, what youlearned from your father, what
you learned maybe from like a 21Savage or different people
you've been in the studio with,stay independent, really.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
You think, okay, from people you've been in the
studio with, stay independent,okay, but uh, okay no like, even
aside from that um just makingsure.
Yeah, I mean just saying justjust having your publishing in
order.
You know what I mean.
Having like making sure you'reon top of your stuff.
You know I'm saying you'reowning your own stuff.
You know what I mean like, andeven like just being original,
because you know, everything isjust so copycat so important
(33:48):
yeah so just just stay, stayoriginal as much as possible.
You know, I'm saying like that's, that's one piece of advice I I
feel like I could give toanybody, you know, I mean just
be yourself love that, you knowI'm saying so love that.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Just transition a little bit.
We always talk about food, man.
I know you talk about big jerkman.
We always, we always talk aboutfood.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I know you talk about .
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Big Jerk man.
We always ask everybodyfavorite restaurant in Vegas.
Man, oh favorite restaurant inVegas um it can be anything
strip.
I like Herbs and Rye oh yeahthat's a good one.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Herbs is excellent.
I love Herbs and Rye.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I like the Henry I like which one's the Henry, a
steakhouse no, that's in Cosmo.
That's in Cosmo.
It's like a breakfast.
It's late night.
It's like a breakfast.
It has everything.
I've actually been there beforeyes.
The.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Henry, I love the Henry.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Nobody's mentioned the Henry before what's?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
another spot I like out here.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Herbs and Rye is excellent.
Herbs and Rye is so, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah they doEverything there.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Oh my the drink man.
That's what gets me every time.
Oh my God, they out the chain.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I love that spot.
Let me think there's a lot ofgood food spots out here.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
But you mentioned Henry and Herb's and Rye's two
good ones.
Yeah yeah, Henry is that place,Probably because I get it.
It works for me, Even like theHenry.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That stays.
It opens at 11 o'clock at night, oh okay, and then it's open
until like 8, 9 in the morning.
You know what I mean.
I gotta remember that.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah same, I gotta remember that I go to Cosmo all
the time.
Oh yeah, Go to the.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Cosmo.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think, I've been to Henry only one time, that's
crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
What's that Fuku Burger?
Oh my God, have you guys had?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Fuku.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Burger.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
We had Colin on the show.
Fuku Burger.
Colin was just at our event acouple weeks ago man, colin's my
guy, colin sponsor me.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You heard that, colin , I'm in your restaurant all the
time.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He's amazing man.
He's inside the Raiders Stadiumand then he's got.
What is it?
Spring Mountain in Chinatown,off Warm Springs.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
So he's got three springs.
Warm Springs is the one I got.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Shout out to I love them.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I love that spot the burgers there Probably the best
burger in Vegas.
Really, I would agree yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Best burger in Vegas.
For sure we got the same palate.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
All right, all right, we good Love it man.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
What else man?
What man I mean well, first, Iappreciate you guys.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Of course I appreciate you.
You know it's always goodtalking to y'all.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, you know what I'msaying.
I could say you know new musicon the way.
Okay, you know a differentcouple of stuff.
I got stuff with Trey Songzcoming up Come on.
I yeah, yeah, yeah, so a coupleof things with Trey coming up.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
He actually has a show out here In Vegas, yeah,
yeah, that's coming up weekend,so he'll be here.
Where's he doing his show?
At MGM.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
He's on the Millennium Tour Bow, wow, I'm
tripping.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Rick Ross and Boosie's all in the tour or
whatever.
But yeah, I got new stuffcoming coming out.
Of course my stuff.
You know what I'm saying.
Keep streaming, Saint.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Saint, you got something there, man.
I'm not just saying that to you.
You got something there, man.
I appreciate it.
Man, shout out to G6.
I know he's one of yeah, I'm mydog G.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
My dog G in the back.
They put us together.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I.
I said okay, no, he heard thatrecord.
He went crazy.
He called me Yo, this is theone.
You got an energy on there.
Man, I'm a big energy person.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So music is energy and it got to get in your spirit
.
And that one I'm going to giveyou a props man for me, you know
, it's all about fun vibes, goodvibes chill vibes.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know what I'm saying.
When I did put it out, I waslike you know what I feel like
this is one of them.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Wines yeah, yeah, okay, awesome man.
We're going to keep supportingyou, man.
We appreciate you coming andsitting down with us, man.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I appreciate it man.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
What Well, follow this young man, man, the next up
.
I'm going to send you the nextup man.
I appreciate it, dog, Iappreciate it.
Same Vegas, same Vegas man.
Oh yeah, I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'm a local.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Make this your home.
Man, Don't leave this one.
This is my home.
Go back to Atlanta.
This is my home.
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
My pleasure, that was good man, yes, sir.
Welcome to Vegas Circle Podcast with your hosts,
paki and Chris.
We are people who arepassionate about business,
success and culture, and this isour platform to showcase the
people in our city who make ithappen.
On today's podcast, we've got aspecial guest man.
Definitely no strangers to themusic game.
Been touring with Trey SongzJust dropped a new single called
Saint.
The straight fire that we werejust talking about we're going
(00:20):
to get into today.
He's carving his own lane inthe music industry, being the
legacy of his father, legendaryTeddy Riley.
We're going to bring him to thecircle and I didn't realize.
Your real name is Teddy RileyJr.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Teddy Riley Jr.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Man Better known as Young Tosh.
Yes sir, yes sir, welcomewelcome welcome, man.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Man, it's a pleasure having me.
Man, it's a pleasure it's abeen in the grind man.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my pops taught me young, you
know, you gotta, you gotta getit, you know what I'm saying get
it on your own.
Yeah, you know it was ablessing for me because being
around like in the industry andjust being the son of somebody
who's done a lot in the game,you know I'm saying you would
(00:56):
think it's like handed out oryou know, I'm saying like nah,
he told us, look do your ownthing.
Work for it.
You know.
You know what I mean.
You're going to love it more.
You're going to appreciate whatyou have more if you work for
it by yourself.
You know what I'm saying.
I feel like anything I was evergiven.
I just broke it, or?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
you know what?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm saying didn't care about it, like it's like
all right, whatever, you knowwhat I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So it's like you know most people like when you're
growing up with somebody,especially the music, right,
business is one thing, right,you know you learn business
lessons, you do it, but musicit's also teaching those same
lessons, absolutely right.
I think you learn it in kind ofa different way, at least from
what I would assume.
Right, because yeah, mostpeople do music as like a
passion project, but when you'regrowing up, you see more in the
business life.
Yeah, you're seeing the successpart of it yeah you learn
different things.
(01:40):
I think that most peoplewouldn't learn, like what kind
of like experiences that youknow really get instilled in you
, that you kind of learn to lookat it from a different
perspective?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
yeah, I mean like just being in the studio with my
pops, seeing them, like youknow, work on like just the
little things, like the beat andeverything you know I'm saying,
and then seeing people come inand break down the business and
stuff like that.
Like that's what intrigued methe most, like you know.
I'm saying like dang, it's aprocess.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I won't be a fly on the wall.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh my God, I can't even imagine it's actually
incredible to see like it's sucha blessing.
That's why I like I think itcame to me like really easy.
Like you know what I'm saying.
They make mistakes, so I knowhe's made mistakes, you know.
(02:26):
So for me it's like just takingthose mistakes that he's made
and try and do it my way.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You know what I mean and fix it.
That's right, yeah, in your ownlane man, and I can respect
that.
He probably respects that too.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Man man, your blood vessel, literally literally
running through.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
But how did you get into creating your own sound and
what got you into saying, okay,this is what I want to do?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So I grew up in Atlanta.
I grew up in Atlanta, georgia,yeah.
So my mom I lived with my mommajority of my life.
So my dad I'd see him weekendsand then Christmas, anytime he
majority of my life, so my dad,my dad, I'll see him, you know,
weekends and then Christmas andyou know, anytime he really
wanted to see me, like you knowI'm saying, or if he had time,
you know, we'll see each other.
Yeah, so it was just uh beingin that realm.
You know, atlanta is just sohuge in the music industry and
(03:15):
it's just a strong, you know,like you know culture.
So, uh, just being out there, Iwas just like, you know, let me
try it, let me see what's goingon.
So I had a couple friends, acouple family friends, shout out
ad and you know I'm saying theslaughter gang team and uh, you
know 21 and hazel and everybodyout there, they, you know, they,
they kind of just helped meshape a sound and you know, mike
(03:36):
will and all of them like justbeing around, that type of
culture, yeah, you know, justhad me in the studio making
beats.
I started making beats at firstlike I wasn't even rapping for
them, or yeah, yeah for them,yeah so I did.
I did records for g herbo rob,49, young in may um k camp.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You're saying that's so easy.
Yeah, you got a resume.
Yeah, I got a little.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I got a little got a little catalog but um, yeah,
just started making records outfor them and because I just
really love, you know, rap,music, trap music, hip hop, you
know what I'm saying.
My dad had a little foot inthat too.
So you know, just being aroundthat sound was just interesting
to me.
So, you know, I was out there,started making beats, and then
(04:22):
one of my cousins was just likeyou know, you should just start
rapping on them.
You know, writing for otherartists or doing your own thing,
like just see what happens Imean.
The worst that happened is sayyou know this sucks.
You know what I mean can't bescared right so I started
rapping and, uh, you know, witheverything takes repetition.
So you know, just being in thestudio all the time just getting
good, getting good, gettinggood, um, and then eventually
somebody was like you knowthat's you actually got a.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You actually got a talent.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, all right, you got something there.
What's up?
So uh yeah, that was, uh,that's how it kind of started
out.
And then, um, I moved out hereto Vegas, uh, after high school
and I just stayed in the studio,like that.
That's all I knew out here,cause I mean, of course, being
being in Vegas, you gotta be 21.
I was graduating, I was 18 19you know I'm saying so.
(05:06):
It was like let me let me justwork where it's gonna go, yeah,
let me just work.
So it was constantly sending outbeats, and you know I'm saying
talking to people networking,going out here and there to
different you know functions,meeting certain people, and yeah
, it, just it.
It took off from there and thenI picked up rapping again,
cause I stopped once I leftAtlanta, picked up rapping and
(05:30):
yeah, now I'm.
Now I'm here.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
man Sounds like an evolution right, Like it's kind
of go through those processesand try to.
You know, beats are alwaysobviously important, but I think
beats are one thing, cause youget a feel for it a little bit,
but when you're trying to ratesomething that's actually coming
from you, it seems like a hardthing to develop and navigate
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was so hard to dictate whether it was like,
especially being around family,your family's always going to be
like, yeah, that's dope.
Some of them my family would belike that's horrible.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That shit sucks, he's good.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I mean around my family.
You know everybody's just soloving and just you know, caring
that it's just like there'llalways be that like oh, like
this is dope, yeah, of course,Even if it sucks Like it's just
like.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh, it's awesome, Just keep doing your thing, just
keep rolling.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah.
So it took me going out andgetting into Vegas party scene
Interesting and for me to dothat, I started DJing, Got it,
so that's where that came in.
Met a couple cool people Cole,the Bloomers Team why Not Gino,
(06:42):
all of them over at Dre's andstarted picking up DJing and
then got my first residency atBig Jerk, which is a cool little
local spot out here, if y'allknow about it Big Jerk.
That's a good food if you knowabout it.
You know about it so at nighttime it turns into a whole
different atmosphere there's twolocations, right?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
yeah, I'm not sure if one of Some of them are still
going, but there used to be onein Southern Highlands.
There's one on Sahara.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
The one on Sahara is the one that's the club, the
lounge.
So they gave me my firstresidency, they gave me my first
break and you know I was makinga little money $300, $400 here,
you know, just DJing.
But I was just so in love withit so I didn't care Like people
(07:26):
would look at me and be like thekey word love, I love it.
Yep, that's the separation, youknow.
I'm saying like so.
For me it was just doing that,you know, constantly.
And then I got to meet so manypeople, network with so many
people, that you just you knoweverybody goes out oh yeah, you
know, especially in vegas, yeah,like if you're, you're gonna
run into somebody 1000.
So that was it for me.
It was just you know doing that.
And then, um yeah, djing wentwell.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I did a whole, I've done everywhere at Zouk day,
like after hours what's the best, one you two, or what's the one
you like, the best for yourself, I love.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Big Jerk.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I'm not gonna lie, I love Big.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Jerk, everybody be like what days?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
is it pop?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
there usually.
So I do Sundays.
Sunday's is like Sunday service, that's like a huge thing out
there.
If you're ever in town, pleasego.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And get some good food and listen to some music.
Yeah, get good food, listen tomusic.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, whatever, it's just such a vibe.
It's like it's a community inthere.
I love that spot Splash.
Splash is a dope spot.
We used to have this spotcalled Inferno.
Do you guys remember that In?
You guys remember that?
I don't know.
I know Splash, was that the?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
club.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, it was the club .
Oh yeah, yeah I remember that?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Where's my fernoat?
Is that downtown?
That's off of Flamingo.
Yeah, oh, shoot, okay, I'm wayoff.
Right behind the palms, rightbehind the palms, I'm way off.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I don't even know where that is.
Three years, it was huge.
Yeah, I remember that and umthey gave me a residency and
that's where like my brandreally started to pop because I
started doing druski and bigboogie would come and t grizzly
yg like those cats would come inthere, so it would you know.
I'm saying it makes sense forme now, yep, so that's where,
like, the brand really startedtaking off and then, you know,
(09:01):
started rapping and startedrapping.
So it was like a littleintervene, like I just put
everything down, started DJingand then started rapping again.
I was like, let me control thesound a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, you know when you have.
I don't know if you were goingto ask this, but do you feel
like the DJ scene is kind ofoversaturated and your mom is
technically like a DJ?
Now, right, yeah, I meanEspecially in Vegas, right In
Vegas, for sure.
And now you got them inbrunches and clubs.
But you know what?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
For me.
I figured out that it's a lanefor everybody.
Like I have friends who do EDMon Fremont, they do hip hop on
Fremont, they do, and they makegood money and like they don't
have to be on the strip.
I know people who just doprivate parties, who just do
corporate, because there'scorporate people out here and
(09:49):
corporate where the money is too.
That's where the money is.
Any corporate event I've everdone the pay is amazing, where
the money is so corporate forsure.
Like I know people in that laneLike it's just so many lanes
you could be in so and so for meit never felt like it was just,
oh, it's just so many people.
(10:09):
And then the people I do know,like it's literally a community,
like we all know.
I know Franny and DJ Great toJT and DJ so Hype, and you know
those cats, like I've beenaround them, dj Direct and you
know those type of cats.
Like it feels like a community.
Everybody knows each other.
It's always love, it's abrotherhood.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know what I mean.
It's really a brotherhood.
You know what I'm sayingEverybody looks out.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So I never got that vibe of just feeling like I'm in
a jungle where everybody's justby themselves.
So it's definitely a blessing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It's cool to be out here and just be in that type of
brotherhood, you know, twoweeks after high school.
So you got to be honest with mebecause Atlanta we've both been
to Atlanta many times Atlantais food, culture, the whole nine
.
But then you come to a spotlike Vegas.
Yeah, why do you feel like aVegas artist?
(10:53):
Don't pop compared to othermarkets like Vegas or New York
or Chicago or LA or somethinglike that I think you know my
opinion on that is definitelylike In Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
it feels like everybody's related in a sense.
So it's like you could be mycousin.
You know what I'm saying andyour music's dope.
But my other cousin who livesin my neighborhood is Gucci Mane
.
Oh my God, like this is my,like we roll together.
Like you know what I'm saying.
We don't make music Like thisis just my homie.
(11:27):
So let me get you in the studiowith him.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That type of stuff doesn't happen in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's ridiculous yeah, you know what I mean.
You're the first person to everbring that up.
That's a great point.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
That's what I see in Atlanta.
Everybody does know everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And they want to help you too.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, and they want to help you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
One If you've ever been to Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's a black culture.
You know what I'm saying.
So we love each other.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I mean, you know, of course you have your day-to-day.
We call it Wakanda.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You know as is.
Yeah, of course, just like anycity, any city, but everybody
pretty much loves each other.
You know what I'm saying, likeit's, you know, I'm saying
clothes and fashion and likefashion's huge out there.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It is, yeah, so just it's black hollywood in a great
way.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, in a great way, like everybody's just
succeeding in that, in that, inthat environment.
So it's like that's one thing.
I think vegas is missing andone thing I would love to bring
here.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You know what I mean like you think it's not here,
because it's like so siloed in away, because when you bring in
entertainment here, right,they're performing, and then
they go back to wherever theycame from, right, yeah, I think
there needs to be something herethat's going to keep people
here.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, and I think that's coming, because to me, I
think Vegas is a young city.
It's super-duper young.
You know what I mean, witheverything that's just coming.
We just got the Raiders Stadium.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
We just got a football team, we're about to
get the A's.
We're about to get the A's.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
We're probably going to get an NBA team.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You know what I mean.
That's not what I hope.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, like those type of things would keep people
here.
You know what I'm saying.
We're just missing a few things.
You know what I mean, and Likethey're getting like— Two point
O's coming, yeah, like they'regetting that.
I see Mark Wahlberg is buildingsomething out here.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Warner Brothers, yeah, yeah,like, yeah, I've seen that, so
like it's just so much— that'shappening Downtown Summerlin
would be great yeah.
Or not Downtown Summerlin InSummerlin, in Summerlin.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Right, right right have that scene?
Yeah, so basically they got tobe entrenched in this community
so that way you could beconnected and you could put
other people on Right, so thatway you're like in the area.
Yeah, it just has to besomething.
You know it's not really youknow, we're young you know, just
trying to figure it out so youknow, it's interesting that you
brought up like the Gucci, likefrom different neighborhoods, so
(13:52):
it's like it's for a long time,for a long time yeah, you know
I'm saying like people beenliving out like the 80s.
You know what I'm saying.
It's like it's, it's alwaysbeen like that, you know so so
they grew up there and stayedthere and stayed there, you had
to move here and you don't knownobody like right.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know people back in an international hub I've
been here from.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm originally from Chicago, but Chris is from
Detroit.
But I felt like Vegas was likean international hub.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
But now we're starting to get our character
yeah Right, yeah, yeah, yeah,and it's funny.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I remember I had this conversation with one of my
guys at a cut above at thebarbershop and they always were
saying, like everybody else thatmoves out here is the ones
messing up Vegas.
But Vegas really does have aculture.
It does.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It has a foundation it does, it does I mean, like I
hear stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Like you know, the mob used to be out here a long
time ago.
So, like you know, italianshave it a little bit out here,
100%.
You know, I see a lot ofdifferent people.
Like you know, I see a lot ofPolynes.
It's getting against culture.
It's getting against you knowwhat I'm saying.
It's just it takes time, youknow.
So eventually I feel like a bigstar is going to break through.
You know, might be me, younever know.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You never know Rolling with that Saint man,
that Saint is fire man.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Look, I'm trying to keep it together man, I'm trying
to keep it together.
Talk about, like, are youactually signed or are you
independent thing going on withvidya over at, uh, gamma gamma
(15:17):
records?
So that's okay.
Did you say nvidia?
It's called vidya, okay, yeah,yeah, I'm like damn, yeah, it's
called.
Yeah, it's called vidya.
Um, it's like this likedistribution platform that they
have uh, it's the it's throughgamma, I guess gamma records,
which is run by larry jackson.
I'm not sure if you ever heardof it.
Yes, yeah, so he, he runs thatuh sector over there, so I have
something with them, but nothinglike where, like, my publishing
is in play got it.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I don't know how do you like this like direct to
consumer play, like the littlerussells of the world what he's
doing.
I love that, I do.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I love that because then like his family can eat
forever you know what I meanlike even long after he's gone.
You know what I mean.
So I think that was so dope,like how he's pushing that like
man be independent, like can youjust imagine if drake was
independent?
That'd be wild.
He'd be like rich by far.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
He'd be like and and that was the whole thing like
elon musk, yeah like if he waslike the labels are making maybe
two or three times what he'smaking like you know what I mean
.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, drake was a rocket, yeah like you know, I'm
saying like and, by the way,incredible artists, like
incredible, like, even with likemichael jackson, you know, I
mean like michael jackson owneda lot of people's publishing,
like the beatles and everybodyhe owned a part of.
Something like when you seesony, like the, the sony I.
I can't remember what it waspart of sony that he had, yeah,
but he owned like majority ofpeople's publishing over there
(16:32):
that's crazy.
So that's why he was just superduper powerful in the industry,
not just only as an artist, butas a businessman too as well.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That's where he really shifted, even his own,
like portfolio of money hebecame really rich.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Not from his records, yeah, not even from his like
you know, when you own thebeatles like, yeah, I heard that
whole story like that and thenlike eminem, like like come on,
yeah, I heard that whole storylike that's it, and then like
Eminem, like ridiculous, come onlet's be real, that's
ridiculous, yeah, so like, areyou seeing different ways now
because, like before thestreaming service, you get your
money off of that are you seeingdifferent ways now of probably
learning from your father ofthings that had worked for him?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
yeah making these adjustments and pivots like yeah
, I mean like different ways toeven through, like social media
like a lot of people's music isblowing up through, like tiktok,
you know, like an instagramreels and snapchat.
You know I'm saying just likedifferent little stuff, like
people are doing to make money,like I know artists who strictly
just put out music on tiktok,specifically, specifically, like
just make tiktok records andthat's selling, that's crazy
(17:27):
that you would have thatbusiness mindset of just TikTok
only yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Because a lot of I think their algorithm is really
good at getting you fast andlong exposure.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, they do the best job about making things go
viral, right, right, and thenlike you know, like with new
technology, like your phone'salways listening, Everything's
always like, so like you'reconstantly in the algorithm.
You know what I mean.
So, in the algorithm, you knowwhat I mean.
So you could just make a simplelittle beat, you know what I'm
saying, and put an ocean infront of it and put it behind
the ocean and put it on tiktok.
Now that video has 900 000likes and that's you know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm saying you're making, you could do that money
off.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Uh, that's a real, just that.
You know, I mean real statement.
So it's so many ways you canget your music out there like
it's.
It's pretty incredible, it'slike it's mind-boggling at this
point, so I don't see a lot ofpeople start to do it behind,
like paywalls, right yeah youhave these different
subscription-based models whatthey do?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
is they do these shorts on tiktok?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
give you a little snippet right, but follow me on
uh-huh what's the the terms ofthe p, I can't remember the
patreon right patreon and hit mypaywall so you can get my full
album.
I've seen that.
I wonder if that's kind of likewhere you see a double dip at
that point.
Yeah, yeah, it's incredible howpeople are doing it.
I think it's dope so stayingindependent.
If you could just get yourmoney and just stay out there.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
They're trying to shut it down, but to me, I think
that's like you said it letsyou own your own content.
It makes you the, you're themost money, you're the
entertainer, you're the artist.
I don't know why people likeyou know really hate on it, like
let it go I don't, I don't likeit, man, but you know it's, I
don't.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I still don't even find anything wrong with signing
to labels, like you know, likesometimes I like, I see people
just need that.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like you know, I mean like structure yeah, structure
you know, I mean like I meanjust drake in general, just
being able to put out, I meannot even market, and then put
your album out tonight, yeah,and it can go.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That is true, because to me it seems a lot easier,
like if I'm a person I just wantto focus on.
I don't want to worry aboutdistributing, I don't want to
worry about marketing, I justwant to put it out.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You know what I mean like a lot of people talent here
, like it's a lot of good talenthere, I agree they undershadow
a lot too I go to some place onthe whole like random spots.
I'm like damn yeah yeah, likethere's a bunch of spots where
I've been to and I've seen localartists perform and they sound
amazing, super talented.
(19:40):
Yeah, but because like theyjust don't have that back and
push it's like, you know it's up.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So that's why I hate it that we don't, because we're
the we're like the internationalhub of everything.
Everybody comes to Vegas.
Who doesn't?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
come to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And it sucks that we don't have that battery pack
Right?
I remember we had Mike P onRight right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
absolutely.
And he was mentioning that andhe was saying, like the Dre's
and things of the world, and yougot all the top artists that
you're paying all this big moneyand then Vegas is kind of left,
which kind of sucks, man, yeah,man.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So we try to there's a little hole in the wall they
go to.
Like you know, I think Chicagohas a Fox Theater, like Detroit
right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You go to these little spots and you can hear
the local talent really try tomake their.
New York has different spots.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Vegas.
Everything here is gearedtowards.
If you're doing that, you're-.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You're out of pocket now You're out of pocket, gonna
take for a local artist to makeit to a?
A dre's nightclub, uh, daylightnightclub, uh, you know what
I'm saying?
A zook, uh, omnia like it'sgonna take ones yeah it's gonna
take that for them to okay.
Now we have an artist, you knowI mean, I think, that's what we
(20:43):
have.
We haven't embraced anybody yetwho's an artist, and I think
that's to come it's gotta be.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
you know, hey man, it's gotta stay here.
Look, man, you know what I'mfollowing.
You come from a blood.
You come from a bloodline it'sand artists, and I think that's
to come.
It's got to be you, hey man,they got to stay here.
They can't come and make it.
You come from a bloodline, it'sgot to be you.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Man, you know, I'm just following in God's
footsteps.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Whatever he got planned for me, I like that
humbleness, you know, whateverhe got, planned for me.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I'm super-duper grateful for do well like but
what happens?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
when they do well here, they leave, yeah, and so I
think you have to be in thathome right culture, like right,
you don't really rep las vegas.
I think it doesn't happen a lotfrom a music.
No, it doesn't, it doesn't.
But you know, I see they, theythey take advantage of, like you
know, you see the edm djs doingreally well yeah, you know,
like they embrace that.
They embrace that very much.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
But what's the hip?
At least the hip hop, maybe thejazz aspect of it.
Yeah, you don't see that You'reright.
But you are right, edm gettingoh my God, stay here, stay
getting paid, and they'regetting.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just seen John Summit, likenot too long ago at Live or
something like that.
His show is amazing, his showis super amazing.
But man, but man, he's making alot of money is he?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I don't even know who that is.
I ain't even gonna front, I'mnot even gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I don't know who that is, edm one of the biggest in
the world right now.
I don't know EDM.
I know Shaq does EDM.
I only know cause.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I saw that.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I can't get into EDM music.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I can't get into it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I can party to it, but I can't listen.
I can't, I can't listen to iton my day how do you get your
music out, man?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
is it because you seem like you got an organic way
of putting it out?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
for me it's just like instagram you know phone to
phone, like you know, likeyoutube.
Okay for me you know, like getit out directly yeah, just write
directly to the people who, wholike me, I feel like first you
have to just write directly tothe people who, who like me, I
feel like first you have to justhave this mass of people who
are invested into you, you knowwhat I mean and just keep
flooding them, keep feeding them.
(22:37):
You know I'm saying you know yougo to a mcdonald's and they
have your favorite, you knowfood over there, like you're
gonna keep going back becausethey keep giving it to you.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, that's what you have todo.
Just give them what they like,just keep giving them what they
like.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I always wonder this is, like you know, like a lot of
people make it big by gettingtheir first feature right and
they pay a lot of money forthose first features right.
And I always get curious.
Like we know, most people thatare trying to come up don't have
200, 300 now pay-per-facefeature.
What do they do get investorsfor it?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
like, yeah, I mean, I think that's part.
That's a part of the musicindustry for sure, like I know a
lot of artists who've beenbacked by investors and stuff
like that and it's worked forthem.
Yeah, it's worked like there'sthere's probably countless of
artists in the game right now-what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
like jack harlow, for sure, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah
, like absolutely I wouldn'tdoubt it.
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt her.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Like you know, the sexy reds or you know.
I'm saying like her record wentstupid viral, yeah, immediately
, and then like the Glorillasand stuff like that, like that's
how it starts, and then theinvestors.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
What's the guy's name ?
That independent that blows updoes everything independent?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
the long run.
I know what you're talkingabout.
I can't think of his name.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
He has an amazing concept that he ah shit, you
know.
You know exactly who he is.
He's done a bunch of music he'slike is he Middle Eastern?
Yeah, I think so.
You know exactly who I'mtalking about.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Russ, russ, russ.
Is he Middle Eastern?
I might be wrong.
Maybe I think so.
He looks like a Middle Eastern.
I think so I might be wrong.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Apologize, russ, if I'm getting your dissent wrong,
but one thing that I heard saywhy would you pay like a million
dollars down, take a loan outand pay that monthly that?
And I was like I never heard anartist say that before.
That's smart.
So, like, for example, whenhe's doing a concert, let's say
you got to rent out.
(24:19):
Like.
Let's say, you rent out MadisonSquare Garden, whatever it is,
you got to rent out MadisonSquare Garden, right, I don't
know, but then you would takethe loan out for it and then pay
them monthly.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Wow, I never thought of that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Because to keep the low overhead.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
That might be true.
Yeah, that might be true.
I've never seen anything likethat.
That's crazy.
Yeah, russ is his name, russ.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, we brought him up a couple times In the
independent realm, I think he'shuge he's huge yeah he's a beast
.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
His fan base is humongous.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, he's a beast with it.
Yeah, so you got the new singleout, saint.
Yeah, is it true?
You're working on a new albumtoo?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I am.
Yeah, Okay, I am.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I am.
So what can we expect with thenew album?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Just a fun sound Like I'm kind of just showing you
who I am music that I like.
You know what I mean.
So this is like long overduefor me, okay, um, because I've
just never putting out a body ofwork.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
So it's like you know how many songs are we working
on?
11 or 12, okay, 11 or 12, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, like I I like that number.
Like you know what I mean, Idon't want to give you too much,
but you know, give you a littlebit you can sit with.
You know what I mean.
So just showing you how likeI'm more diverse than just you
know the turned up hip hop like.
I got a.
I got a couple records on thereyou know what I mean love that.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
One thing I've seen more too, is like I know I got
the new music, but I've seenlike now, a lot of music that
I'm seeing is like one and ahalf minutes.
Oh yeah, I believe in that.
Short and sweet, yeah, I thinkthat's kind of like the new
thing that's making an impact.
I believe in thatcold-heartedly because you know,
with our generation.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
you know what I'm saying Like everything is so
like Fast.
You know you read somethingreal quick.
All right, I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I'm out of here Literally two seconds.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
My tears can't hold the attention at all.
It's like the be two minutes,depending on how good the song
is.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
So you're not playing to the old heads is what you
say no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's incredible tell me about.
So?
Are you working with yourfather?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
on this.
Yeah, my dad has a couplerecords on it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, that'd be fun, so I'm curious what's it like
working with him, as far as thehonesty it's?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
actually fun.
It's super fun.
I mean, for me it's like seeingthe way he thinks and then like
he can look back and be like oh, this is how you guys are doing
because, like what I was likevery interesting, yeah, like
with him like, don't get mewrong, like in technology he's
like here, yeah, but like I showhim like kind of like a quicker
(27:00):
way, you know, I mean justbeing like a millennial like, or
not even like gen z yeah youknow, I'm saying just we can get
here like, yeah, right, likeyou know what I mean.
So just seeing that, because Iknow back in the day they used
to play stuff out.
You know I'm saying they'rereal composers.
Yeah, producers back in the dayare really composers, so they
used to do stuff like that.
Nowadays you do everything fromyour laptop.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
That's ridiculous sometimes people do it from
their phone.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I know people who record from their phone and it's
studio quality.
That's wild.
That's ridiculous, yeah, okay,so I'm just showing them
different ways and just adifferent sound too.
You know what I mean Likewhat's new right now, and then
kind of just mixing the two, youknow what I mean, so still
giving you that old little feel.
You know what I'm saying a funvibe like you know I mean.
(27:48):
So when will your new album?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
come out?
Is that 2025?
Yeah, it'll be 2025 summertimesummertime.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Okay, so it's coming quick so it might be done.
Yeah, I mean for right now.
You know I've just been seeing,you know, the different
reactions from saint.
You know I'm saying getting itplayed in different clubs and
you know I'm saying I've beenspun in miami, houston, atlanta.
So just seeing those vibes, youknow what mean, and seeing how
it would go, and now I'm lockedand loaded, I'm ready to release
again.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Do you ever, especially because you got the
pulse right out of the crowd ofbeing a DJ and all that do you
ever just throw on your ownmusic?
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I mean for me, like I look at, like a huge
inspiration of it is his records.
I'm gonna be honest with youcomplex con yeah, just did you
see.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You seen his performance and I'm gonna be
honest, I forgot how.
I forgot all the hits that hehad.
See, he is a beast.
He's a beast and not rapping atall, just playing, just all the
music records that he produced.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
So why can't somebody who's a rapper do the same
thing?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I mean it makes sense If you can DJ.
Yeah Y'all, look like y'allcould be family man, yeah, yeah.
Oh my everybody said that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's my God.
You said it, that's my God.
Man Shout out to Cho.
That's my dog, you're a talentto do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely soyou do play your music just to
feel the pulse.
I do, just to feel the pulse,just to see.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And then also for me it's like getting reactions like
how do people?
Because for me it's likereading people.
Being a dj, you have to read.
You know you have to fill theroom.
You got to know what's going on.
Yeah, so for me it's like justseeing.
You know, does this make a girlwho's 21, who just turned 21,
who having her birthday, does itmake her move at 12 o'clock at
night?
If it does, I know I gotsomething you know what I mean.
(29:31):
And if it don't, then maybe thissong isn't for her.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
So that's just for me , that's how I kind of take
DJing now.
But I think that'll be superdope for rappers and if you guys
could imagine if you could justgo and just play your records.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I mean it makes sense .
I always wanted that because,like you know, comedy people do
this right they go do stand-upcomedy If a joke don't hit.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I change my joke, I change my joke and then I go do
something different.
That's a very good point.
Go back to the drawing board.
Go back to the drawing boardand tweak a little thing here
and there.
Yeah, like Drake goes toHouston and he'll go to one of
the regular just clubs that'sgoing on and play one of his and
just see what it does.
You got to see.
(30:13):
You got to see.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know what I'm saying?
That's an immediate reaction,right yeah, I'm surprised they
don't do that more often.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
I mean the sound might change and you don't know,
because you're just stuck inyour ways.
Like artists, you know kind ofget stuck in that.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh, like artists, you know, kind of get stuck in that
.
Oh well, I've had a hit or two.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
So yeah, you know it is what it is.
I could keep doing this andit's gonna work.
No, buddy, yeah, you gotta makea doubt, you know, and
everything's constantly changingnow.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So it's like yeah, I get it.
What's the biggest lesson youthink you learned from your
father, whether just business orlife in general, man?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
man for me.
Um, I think, uh, stayingconsistent with anything that
you do you know what I mean andhave a regimen.
You know what I mean.
Stay on top of your stuff, stayhonest to people, that's one
thing.
Stay honest and believe in yourcraft for sure, because you
(31:03):
never know what's your regimenlike Are you in the studio
pretty much every day, like areyou in the studio.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I'm in the studio every day.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
There is not a day I miss excellent yeah, no, I'm in
the studio every single day, andthen for me, like during the
weekends, that's when I dj, soI'll be in the studio during the
day yeah, I'm able to work onmy craft and then, uh, at
nighttime I'm in somebody'snightclub you know so, but it it
helps because it keeps me stillnetworking, shaking certain
(31:30):
hands, staying in the mix, youknow, I mean I don't know how
important that is, man man it'sextremely nowadays, especially
so.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
There's the music industry too, right more
important, yeah, you have toknow.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And then you know, just keep your face card good
and everything you know.
I mean just staying in the mixand you know being yourself, be
yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, you know so do you feel like it get really,
really fake at times too?
Yeah, how do you deal with that?
Because that's what drives mecrazy.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Oh my god, I mean this.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It's fake individuals everywhere yeah, that's true,
but don't you feel like it'smore in the music space though?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
absolutely okay.
Everybody's, not themselves.
So just stay in your realm ofpeople you know, just stay
around the people you know, thepeople that you started out with
.
Yeah, stay with them.
You don't have to beeverybody's friend.
Yeah, you know, at the end ofthe day it's a business and I
think a lot of people shift thatand they're like, oh, this is
(32:21):
my God.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
This is my partner.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
You know what I'm saying?
My partner is my brother.
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
That's why I respect, like not to change the subject
but like LeBron for a reason isbecause he stayed with the same
crew from the jungle.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
The same guys from high school.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, and they're all rich, all these guys.
Man, they stayed with the sameclique.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, why can't we just stay with the guys who love
you and want to see you shineand you want to see them shine
and want to see you shine andyou want to see them shine,
protect you too.
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
I feel like we start gettingaround people who just, you know
, kind of just leech.
You know, I'm saying that's onething I caught, like from being
out here, like people do leechon and it's like, ah man, just
rock with the people who rockwith you, because once you start
(33:01):
switching up, that's whenthings go bad I get getting bad,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
But business advice, man.
What's one piece of businessadvice just as an artist, you
know that or maybe just whatevercomes to you as far as a gym
that maybe has helped you.
Maybe, now that you've beenworking every single day about
to put that album out, what youlearned from your father, what
you learned maybe from like a 21Savage or different people
you've been in the studio with,stay independent, really.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
You think, okay, from people you've been in the
studio with, stay independent,okay, but uh, okay no like, even
aside from that um just makingsure.
Yeah, I mean just saying justjust having your publishing in
order.
You know what I mean.
Having like making sure you'reon top of your stuff.
You know I'm saying you'reowning your own stuff.
You know what I mean like, andeven like just being original,
because you know, everything isjust so copycat so important
(33:48):
yeah so just just stay, stayoriginal as much as possible.
You know, I'm saying like that's, that's one piece of advice I I
feel like I could give toanybody, you know, I mean just
be yourself love that, you knowI'm saying so love that.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Just transition a little bit.
We always talk about food, man.
I know you talk about big jerkman.
We always, we always talk aboutfood.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
I know you talk about .
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Big Jerk man.
We always ask everybodyfavorite restaurant in Vegas.
Man, oh favorite restaurant inVegas um it can be anything
strip.
I like Herbs and Rye oh yeahthat's a good one.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Herbs is excellent.
I love Herbs and Rye.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I like the Henry I like which one's the Henry, a
steakhouse no, that's in Cosmo.
That's in Cosmo.
It's like a breakfast.
It's late night.
It's like a breakfast.
It has everything.
I've actually been there beforeyes.
The.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Henry, I love the Henry.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Nobody's mentioned the Henry before what's?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
another spot I like out here.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Herbs and Rye is excellent.
Herbs and Rye is so, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah they doEverything there.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Oh my the drink man.
That's what gets me every time.
Oh my God, they out the chain.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I love that spot.
Let me think there's a lot ofgood food spots out here.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
But you mentioned Henry and Herb's and Rye's two
good ones.
Yeah yeah, Henry is that place,Probably because I get it.
It works for me, Even like theHenry.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That stays.
It opens at 11 o'clock at night, oh okay, and then it's open
until like 8, 9 in the morning.
You know what I mean.
I gotta remember that.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah same, I gotta remember that I go to Cosmo all
the time.
Oh yeah, Go to the.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Cosmo.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think, I've been to Henry only one time, that's
crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
What's that Fuku Burger?
Oh my God, have you guys had?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Fuku.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Burger.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
We had Colin on the show.
Fuku Burger.
Colin was just at our event acouple weeks ago man, colin's my
guy, colin sponsor me.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
You heard that, colin , I'm in your restaurant all the
time.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He's amazing man.
He's inside the Raiders Stadiumand then he's got.
What is it?
Spring Mountain in Chinatown,off Warm Springs.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
So he's got three springs.
Warm Springs is the one I got.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Shout out to I love them.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I love that spot the burgers there Probably the best
burger in Vegas.
Really, I would agree yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Best burger in Vegas.
For sure we got the same palate.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
All right, all right, we good Love it man.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
What else man?
What man I mean well, first, Iappreciate you guys.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Of course I appreciate you.
You know it's always goodtalking to y'all.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, you know what I'msaying.
I could say you know new musicon the way.
Okay, you know a differentcouple of stuff.
I got stuff with Trey Songzcoming up Come on.
I yeah, yeah, yeah, so a coupleof things with Trey coming up.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
He actually has a show out here In Vegas, yeah,
yeah, that's coming up weekend,so he'll be here.
Where's he doing his show?
At MGM.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
He's on the Millennium Tour Bow, wow, I'm
tripping.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Rick Ross and Boosie's all in the tour or
whatever.
But yeah, I got new stuffcoming coming out.
Of course my stuff.
You know what I'm saying.
Keep streaming, Saint.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Saint, you got something there, man.
I'm not just saying that to you.
You got something there, man.
I appreciate it.
Man, shout out to G6.
I know he's one of yeah, I'm mydog G.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
My dog G in the back.
They put us together.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I.
I said okay, no, he heard thatrecord.
He went crazy.
He called me Yo, this is theone.
You got an energy on there.
Man, I'm a big energy person.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So music is energy and it got to get in your spirit
.
And that one I'm going to giveyou a props man for me, you know
, it's all about fun vibes, goodvibes chill vibes.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
You know what I'm saying.
When I did put it out, I waslike you know what I feel like
this is one of them.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Wines yeah, yeah, okay, awesome man.
We're going to keep supportingyou, man.
We appreciate you coming andsitting down with us, man.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I appreciate it man.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
What Well, follow this young man, man, the next up
.
I'm going to send you the nextup man.
I appreciate it, dog, Iappreciate it.
Same Vegas, same Vegas man.
Oh yeah, I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'm a local.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Make this your home.
Man, Don't leave this one.
This is my home.
Go back to Atlanta.
This is my home.
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
My pleasure, that was good man, yes, sir.
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