March 24, 2025 • 31 mins
Are you ready to stop waiting for recognition and start owning your strengths? In this episode, we revisit one of our most transformative sessions: Turning Strengths Into Opportunities—an essential conversation for women professionals ready to take charge of their careers.
Too often, high-achieving women are so consumed by deadlines, expectations, and the constant comparison trap that they lose sight of their unique value. When was the last time you paused to reflect on what truly sets you apart at work?
This episode is your invitation to do just that.
We explore why naming—and claiming—your strengths is the foundation of long-term career growth, especially in workplaces where women still face double standards and invisible barriers. You’ll hear actionable strategies sourced directly from our community on how to:
- Transform self-awareness into career opportunities
- Control and communicate your professional narrative
- Build a circle of advocates who champion you behind closed doors
- Leverage recognition and compliments as stepping stones to advancement
Plus, we share the mindset shift that turns a simple “thank you” into a bold move toward your next opportunity.
Whether you're pursuing a promotion, navigating a career transition, or simply craving more alignment between your talents and your work, this episode offers both inspiration and practical tools to help you move forward with clarity and confidence.
🎧 Tune in now and take the first step in turning your strengths into real-world opportunities.
✨ Take the 10-Minute Strengths Challenge after listening—and consider joining our community of women who are doing the work to recognize and amplify their brilliance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, I'm Erika Lucas, your host for today
.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Vestor podcast, where we
explore the invisible barriersholding women back in the
workplace and share stories ofwomen navigating careers and
building power collectively.
Today's episode is all about apowerful session we just hosted
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with Vest members in March,where we talked about turning
strengths into opportunities.
We want to share some of thosekey takeaways we explore with
VEST members, just in caseyou're also struggling with
identifying and getting clearabout what it is that you bring
to the table and how you can usethose strengths to move your
career forward.
To start this conversation, Ihave the most amazing team that
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ever existed the Vest team.
Literally the Vest with the V,but the Vest team here.
Sarah Gabby, jay, thank you somuch for making time of your
busy schedule to host thisconversation and hopefully
support more women that listento this show, more women and
people who are supporting womenat work, because we know that we
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also have other people thatlisten to our show that are just
interested in learning how toapply some of the practices and
some of the conversations wehave to make their workspaces
more inclusive, not just forwomen, but for working families
and for everyone in general.
So thank you for making thetime.
So let's get started.
Let's do just a quick roundstate your name, your role and
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maybe one word that gives youlike a takeaway from when we
hosted this session.
Let's see if you can summarizeit into one word.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Whatever comes to mind I'may, johnson, I um help
within um, community engagement,um and with vest.
Something that I think truthfulis what I got from the um, our
session, just because I feltlike the members were being
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really honest about what is hardfor them and what's hard in the
aspect of talking about yourstrengths and opportunities,
because sometimes, as women, youknow, we're told to be humble
and so it's almost ingrained inus, even though it's like I
don't want to be, I don't wantto at all, but it is ingrained,
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and so I though it's like Idon't want to be, I don't want
to at all, but it is ingrained,and so I think it's powerful to
be honest and truthful, andthat's what I saw the women
doing in our session.
Even when it's hard to talkabout our truths, I think, or
our strengths and opportunities,they were truthful and they
were, they were honest, and Ireally loved that.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
That's a great word, jay.
I am Gabby Eichenlaub, I dooperations at VEST and I think,
kind of in line with your word,I think relatable would be my
takeaway from the session.
I think, you know, sometimes wehave this idea that you're the
only one that's going throughthis no one really.
You know you're alone in thestruggles that you're facing, or
maybe seeing.
You know the strengths that youhave and, after hearing some of
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the members takeaways, I thinkthat's something that they
shared was that they were ableto relate to other members.
They had so much more in commonthan not, even though these are
women across stages in theircareer, across industries and
sometimes even across regions.
They were able to relate toeach other and that's super
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powerful, I think, as you divedeeper into these conversations,
to be able to relate to othersand be honest about what you're
going through.
So I think relatable is is mykey takeaway.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I'm Sarah.
I'm Sarah Sotario.
I take care of well, I helptake care of everything related
to membership, but less, and myone word is support.
I think it's so hard as women.
I think it's so like, relatedto Jay, to what you said.
I think it's so hard as women.
I think it's so like, relatedto what you said, I think it's
so hard often.
It is often so hard to see yourown strength.
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So it was really inspiring tosee so many women highlight
others, other women's strength.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Um, and I think that just um, that's what's so
beautiful about this is that youdo have this safe um space
where women can come and supportone another and just um, remind
each other of what theirstrengths are, even though it's
harder to see, uh, for yourself,but I love being able to see
that at the session.
But I love being able to seethat at the session.
Thank you for sharing.
My next question for you guysis why do you think this session
was important to have?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
particularly around this time.
I think, coming off thebeginning of the year, it's very
much the beginning of the yearis very much goal-oriented.
You're kind of focused, you'rekind of talking about what it is
that you want to do and then itkind of like falls off a bit
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and then you kind of get intothe realities of life and it can
get a little harder to kind ofrecenter back not only on your
goals but also what it is thatyou're bringing to the table,
because it can be so easy tojust focus on the end journey
and like everything that you'remissing to get there that you
forget that like you actuallybring a lot to the table already
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and how can you recenter onwhat you're already bringing to
the table to get to the end goalalready bringing to the table
to get to the end goal I was.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I think what comes to mind for me why it's important
right now for us to talk aboutour strengths and our
opportunities as women isbecause we're in a weird time
scary time, unpredictable timein our country right now and
scary as well, scary time.
And so I think, with all ofthose feelings, you can feel out
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of control and feel like youdon't have much control over
anything going on and, I think,centering it back on ourselves
and those that we trust andthose that we support, and can
relate to the three words thatwe thought of, I think being
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around those women and beingwith yourself and talking about
yourself, and what am I good atand what can I do with my
strengths and what opportunitiescan I do to make my community
feel better.
I think that is reallyimportant right now.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Sarah, anything to add?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, I suppose it's just.
It allows you to feel to yourpoint of control and it empowers
you right when you talk aboutwhat you're good at, what you
can do, um, and just realize,like when you be on yourself too
, you know, when you gettogether with some powerful
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women that we can achieve somuch.
And then you start feelinghopeful and, um, you know, you
sort of drown out all the other,all the noise, but yeah, I also
think that you know it's easy.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Um, somebody was telling me the other day that we
are now consuming what used totake us like a year to consume.
We're now consuming it likewithin a day or something like
that.
And then we're also workingmore than we've ever worked
before, in terms of hours plusmanaging household, plus caring
for our loved ones.
All of this is easy, I think,for us to fall into this
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reactionary mode of like justdoing what is expected of us,
and maybe this is where you weregoing with Gabby earlier.
Like you know, it's easier.
You know what your role is, youknow what the expectations of
your role are, so you're justperforming against that, and so
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most of the time it's hard forus to make time to say, wait,
what am I good at?
Because I'm just doing, doing,doing.
I've seen that in myself andI've seen it in other best
members who have confided in me.
And then the other thing that Isee that again I'm guilty of as
well.
There's no judgment here, sothis is a judgment-free zone,
but I think I know that I'vedone it in the past.
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I compare myself to otherpeople that that seem to have it
figure out or that seem to befurther along, even though maybe
they're not.
But it's just easy for us to,instead of looking within, right
, like what do I bring to thetable?
What do I really enjoy doing?
What if I was to lead from thisplace of strength and joy, it's
easier to say, well, man, shehas it figured out.
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Man, she just got thatpromotion.
Man, she just landed that role.
Man, she's working for thatcompany that you know provides
all of those benefits.
And it's then we get into thismindset that it's not even like
to your point, jay, from a placeof control, right, like we're
controlling the narrative, we'recontrolling what we see as our
strength, we're controlling whatsuccess looks like for us, and
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then we just become reactionary.
And maybe then, maybe this isanother way, because I know that
, even though we're a womennetwork for women, we're very
real into discussing that notall women have always been
supportive of each other,discussing that not all women
have always been supportive ofeach other.
Maybe one reason is that, youknow, we are led to believe or
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ourselves get into a mindset oflike, let's compete with one
another instead of supportingone another and helping each one
of us bring out our ownstrengths and then lead from a
place of that and then figureout what success looks for us
individually, and it might becompletely different than yours,
even though I was comparingmyself with you.
So, anyways, that is somethingthat I don't know if you guys
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heard, but it was one of thepatterns that I kept hearing
from when we were hosting thesession last week on this topic.
I want to break it down into.
So there was five.
When we got together after thesession, I think all of us
identify five patterns that wesee based on the responses from
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members and kind of the feedbackthat we received from them.
Number one was the need to nameand claim your strengths.
Right, and sometimes, again,it's hard for us to make time to
say, hmm, what am I good at.
Sometimes, again, it's hard forus to make time to say, hmm,
what am I good at.
And a way that you can do thatis through reflection and ask
another for feedback, like, ifyou're really struggling to
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figure out, what am I reallygood at, what do I really bring
to the table, maybe going backto others.
And so we did an exercise wherewe break down members into
groups so that other peoplecould also give them feedback on
, maybe, some of the stringsthat they hadn't realized they
have.
What do you think about thiskey takeaway of naming your
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strings and claiming them?
And then, but before we evenname them and claim them, how do
we identify?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
them.
Well, something I really likedthat a member said is when you
are, when you are talking aboutyour strengths and your and and
what you talked about atdifferent tables and different
opportunities, cause those canbring opportunities to you
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through people who love andsupport you.
So, once you have talked withthose people who you love and
trust about what your strengthsare, what they think that your
strengths are, and you have agood good idea of how you want
to be described to people indifferent rooms that you're not
in, tell those people how youwant to be described to people
in different rooms that you'renot in.
Tell those people how you wantto be described so that we're
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not left to wonder, you know, ifwe're being compared or if you
know you kind of have controlover that.
You know.
Tell those people who you loveand trust how you want to be
described and what yourstrengths are, so that that's
spreading around and in a waythat you that you like.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I think it goes back to what you're saying earlier to
Jay, in terms of naming, namingyour strengths, and it's part
of that controlling thenarrative too, right?
So instead of just havingeverything come at you and
letting other people tell youwhat you're good at or maybe
your job dictate what you'regood at you can then take
control of the narrative interms of, like, this is what I
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actually like to do, this iswhat you know brings me energy.
This is the part of my job thatfills me up the most.
You know, we work on a smallteam, so a lot of us do a lot of
the tasks, but there arecertain areas where you just you
are filled up a little bit more, right, and so I think that's a
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good way to really see whatyour strengths may be and really
dive deeper on those, right.
I think another part to kind ofgoes back to your goals, like
what is it that you want to workon and what strengths you need,
you know, maybe to um, to workon to get there, um, but I think
all of it comes down tocontrolling the narrative again,
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controlling your, your, your um, your own narrative to work
towards what you, what it isthat you want to do and not just
like where life or where yourjob is taking you right.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Gabby, one of the things that you mentioned
throughout the sessionconsistently was the need to not
wait for others to recognizethose strengths, right.
So often we're told just workhard and people will notice your
efforts and your job, but thereality is that, I mean, I'm not
saying that it never happens,but it doesn't happen at scale
right and it doesn't happenconsistently and it doesn't
happen to everyone.
So you mentioned consistentlythroughout the session the need
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for members to own beingambitious and to not waiting for
others to recognize theirstrengths and to use those
strengths again to create pathsfor them that align with your
goals.
What?
Why were you so adamant aboutthat specific point and and why
did you keep repeating that tobest members?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I think it's important to remember I fall
victim to it too right Of justlike putting your head down,
working, kind of just goingaround, going about your day and
like obviously doing your bestbut not really advocating for
the things that you want, oradvocating for yourself.
Really Right, like I think wewe shared on our socials.
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Like being good at your job isnot enough.
You have to advocate foryourself too, and I think that
comes in a variety of ways,whether that's, you know,
advocating for the work that youhave been doing.
Speaking up and saying like thisis the taking ownership of your
work and your strengths, Ithink is one.
I think it can also be about theopportunities that you want,
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right?
So not expecting that thingsare going to come to you, but
really claiming that narrative,claiming your strengths, and
saying like, okay, this is thegoal that I have, I want to be.
You know, if we're talkingabout communication, I want to
be.
You know, speaking at paidevents, okay, then I need to be
out there saying this is whatI'm good at, this is what I want
to talk about, and talking tothose people that can kind of
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help get you there.
And I think the third part is Ithink Sarah, you mentioned this
having a group of people thatwill be around you, that are
trusted, right, that you canthen share those opportunities
and, jay, you mentioned this toothat will be speaking for you
as well, that will be speakingon your behalf to when you're
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not in the room.
So, creating a group of trustedpeople that you've shared these
wants and needs with and thenthat you know they will be out
there, you know, bringing you tothe tables even when you're not
there.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Gosh.
This is particularly true rightnow.
We talked about the environmentthat we're operating and I know
that, unfortunately, there'sbeen a lot of layoffs and people
looking for job opportunities.
And then there's the shame thatcomes with that right
Unfortunately, because we'vebeen socialized to think that
that's somehow abnormal careercontrol and I think we've all
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experienced that in our careersat one point or another, whether
it was being let go ordownsizing or whatever that
affected our career transitionbut somehow we associated it
with shame, like, oh my gosh,and as a result, we don't talk
to people.
We don't tell people that we'relooking for opportunities, we
don't tell people that, hey,this is what I'm good at and
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please share the word.
So I yeah, yes to everythingthat you guys are mentioning,
because mentioning because Ithink it's very real and it's it
can help so many people if wenormalize asking for help,
identifying our strengths andthen asking other people to
advocate on our behalf whenwe're not in the room.
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So loving all of this.
The last item that we discussedas a key takeaway was that we
also needed to act on therecognition, and I think you
spoke on this a little bit,gabby, but I want to give it up
to Sarah and Jay to alsoelaborate.
But the need to.
You know, oftentimes,especially women, we're told oh
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my gosh, gabby, you're so greatat operations and making
everything streamlined and easyfor people to understand, and
blah, blah, blah.
And then we go like thanks andleave it at that, right, like,
oh, thank you.
Oh, it's a team effort, whichit is most of the time it is,
but, like we often don't takecompliments very well, that's
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for another, maybe podcastepisode.
But the other one is we alsojust leave it at that, oh,
thanks, when in fact we can useit to create opportunities,
right, oh well, thank you, thatyou mentioned I'm very good at
streamlining.
By the way, I'm looking forfunding to create this.
How do you leverage complimentsafter people identify your
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strengths to then createopportunities for yourself?
And you mentioned this, gabby.
Like right now, if somebodycompliments you that you're a
great speaker, you know maybefollowing up, say, hey, thanks
for thanks for your feedback.
By the way, I'm available forthe rest of the year if you know
of any other speaking gigs, youknow, like, just how do we get
rid of the, how do we becomebold and how do we don't let
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opportunity slide Because wejust let it at you're great, and
we didn't leverage on thatcompliment anybody else wants to
share, or is it just me?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
no, I think that that is totally something I also
struggle with and, like I talkedabout in the beginning of of
this session, like you know, aswomen we have this idea grained
into us from from when we werelittle to be humble and to just
be gracious and oh, thank you,and oh, I don't want to go into
what I'm good at, but, um, weshould, and we totally, we
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totally should, should talkabout what we're good at and
what strengths we have to leadto opportunities.
And I and I know it can feeluncomfortable, um, but sometimes
when things are good for us,they feel uncomfortable and I
think that's okay and gettingused to that uncomfortability
until it's comfortable.
So, maybe, practicing with,like we said, friends that you
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trust, and something that like Ithink would be a good idea is
to just have a friend, keepasking you like why?
So, if you say I'm good at this, to just have a friend keep
asking you like why?
So if you say I'm good at this,why, and then well, how are you
good at it?
Just kind of practice with afriend, talk about some one of
your strengths and then ask themto just keep asking you
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questions.
So then you just keep talkingabout what you're good at, why
you're good at it, how you'regood at it.
What can you do with that?
You know, I think justpracticing to get kind of out of
that uncomfortability oftalking about ourselves is a
good idea.
And then I was also going tosay one other thing.
I forgot, but if it comes backto you, if it comes back to me,
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I'll let you guys know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Gabby, Sarah, anything you want to add.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I just wanted to speak to.
I think we're we're also awareof the double standard that
comes with women speaking up,whether that is
speakingconfident or demandingor whatever, whatever the word
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that we've heard around, thrownaround before.
I think it's important to againname, name the challenge right,
that there is a double standard, and then work towards like
okay, whether that's personallyor in the workplace, you know,
acknowledging other women'sefforts.
I think it's just important toalso acknowledge that double
standard.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
What are you talking about, gabby?
Never heard of that before.
Huh, no, very thank you forhighlighting that and great
reminder for us all.
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
I want to add, just like I think it's important to
also keep an eye out, you know,just to support other women in
within your circle, but alsomaybe a little bit beyond it,
just if you know that they coulduse some help with advocating
or finding their strength.
Just to do that, for them to bethat person.
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Because we often lookinternally, you know what's in
it for me, what can I get out ofit.
But I do think when you do, youknow, when you look outward,
you can find, hey, you know Ican be supportive Because that's
what we want, right, that'swhat we're saying.
Let's not be, let's supportother women.
We're women who support otherwomen, right?
We're not pitting ourselvesagainst one another or each
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other.
So let's be that person to like, look out for, for those who
need help too, and not noteveryone has that, that friend
group or that safe space, so youcould be that too to that
person, right?
So I think that's key.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
All right.
So this goes to all of youthree.
What is one strength you'reclaiming more boldly this year?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think my voice and I feel confident in my voice and
in using it for advocacy andfor power.
I, you know, love this topic.
I love helping build confidencein people.
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Um, and being kind of, you knowhow I was talking about.
If anybody ever needs practice,you know, I would love to help
you feel more confident and talkabout that, because I think it
can do wonders.
So I think for me, I'm justreally dwelling into the power
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that my voice has.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I really enjoy caring for others.
I enjoy seeing how helpful thatcan be.
So I'm going to just continueworking on that and, at the same
time, setting boundaries andcaring for myself too, because I
need that to be able to extendthat to others.
So that's what I'm focusing onfor myself.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Those are all really great.
Um, I feel like I am claimingthe strength of rest, right, the
strength of not always havingto be involved in something or
working on something, or justconstantly feeling productive.
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I think, personally, that's oneI need to I'm working on not
that I need to be better at theone that I'm working on Because
it's important to give ourselvesthe time to recover, right, so
we can work, show up better, canwork show up better, not only
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in our work life, but also ourpersonal life, right, I have two
little kids, so I want to makesure that when I am with them, I
don't have the brain fog.
I want to make sure that when Iam at work, you know I'm
productive and ready to go forworking, for you know the
members that we have in ourorganization, the amazing
speakers that we get to comespeak, and so I know that, in
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order to do all that, I need tomake sure that I'm caring for
myself, like you said, sarah,but also just taking the time to
not always be on.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
This doesn't have to be everyone, if nothing comes to
mind, but if it does come tomind, what is one opportunity
that you're going to pursuebecause of this strength?
It could be something fun Imean, Gabby, you said you want
to spend more time with yourkids without the brain fog but
could also be an opportunity.
Or it can be something fun likemaking time for you.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, I think for me it will be fun.
I am working on our vacations,actually having them planned out
, not to the T, but just knowing, okay, this is going to happen.
It's not going to be a reactivelike oh, I need one right now,
but really taking those times.
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So that's a big one.
And then the small one is likewhen work is done, I'm done.
Not answering weekends isfamily time when I'm?
You know, the kids are startingbaseball soon, so when they're
at the games I'm not checking,checking phone for emails that
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came through or anything likethat.
So just like trying to havemore of a focus during those
times.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, setting boundaries Amazing.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Sarah, I can absolutely relate to Gabby.
I mean, like I feel like she'sjust taking the words out of my
mouth.
That's what I would like to.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Jay, I think I can't think of any like big big things
right now, but just using myvoice to feel empowered and feel
decisive.
I know, like I'm, I can be apeople pleaser and so, like you
know, being in like anindecisive realm can feel
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comfortable or kind of passingoff decisions to other people,
or you know whatever you want todo or whatever is fine with me,
and I think taking more controlof of my decisions and what I
would like and I have power inmy voice and so I can create the
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reality that I want and notjust be passive and pass it on
to other people.
Even if it's a small or bigthings you know, like what do we
want for dinner, then you knowI don't have to let other people
decide even something smalllike that.
If I want pizza, I'll say Iwant pizza, things like that.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
It starts with small steps, right, and then those
small steps just become largerand larger and larger.
Yeah, I love well.
Thank you so much for takingthe time to do this.
I am one very grateful to havethe opportunity to work with
each and every one of you.
I learn every day from you andI know our best members do as
well and just really gratefulfor the time here today and for
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sharing and for being able to.
You know, like I tell peopleall the time, I have the best
job in the world.
I get to work with the bestpeople and we're doing it to
help women and working family,Like the reason why we do the
things that we do.
I think it's what keeps usgoing, so you're part of that.
Why?
So?
Thank you so much.
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If you are listening to thisepisode, we have a challenge for
you.
Take 10 minutes today, rightright after this session, so
don't say I'm going to do itlater.
Just right after you click stopor this episode ends.
Take 10 minutes and write downthree strengths that you know
you have.
If you're struggling in thisarea, ask someone that you trust
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to name one or more, so to helpyou identify and get clear into
what your strengths are andthen look for strengths that,
look for areas in which you canturn those strengths into
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Hey everyone, I'm Erika Lucas, your host for today
.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Vestor podcast, where we
explore the invisible barriersholding women back in the
workplace and share stories ofwomen navigating careers and
building power collectively.
Today's episode is all about apowerful session we just hosted
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with Vest members in March,where we talked about turning
strengths into opportunities.
We want to share some of thosekey takeaways we explore with
VEST members, just in caseyou're also struggling with
identifying and getting clearabout what it is that you bring
to the table and how you can usethose strengths to move your
career forward.
To start this conversation, Ihave the most amazing team that
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ever existed the Vest team.
Literally the Vest with the V,but the Vest team here.
Sarah Gabby, jay, thank you somuch for making time of your
busy schedule to host thisconversation and hopefully
support more women that listento this show, more women and
people who are supporting womenat work, because we know that we
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also have other people thatlisten to our show that are just
interested in learning how toapply some of the practices and
some of the conversations wehave to make their workspaces
more inclusive, not just forwomen, but for working families
and for everyone in general.
So thank you for making thetime.
So let's get started.
Let's do just a quick roundstate your name, your role and
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maybe one word that gives youlike a takeaway from when we
hosted this session.
Let's see if you can summarizeit into one word.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Whatever comes to mind I'may, johnson, I um help
within um, community engagement,um and with vest.
Something that I think truthfulis what I got from the um, our
session, just because I feltlike the members were being
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really honest about what is hardfor them and what's hard in the
aspect of talking about yourstrengths and opportunities,
because sometimes, as women, youknow, we're told to be humble
and so it's almost ingrained inus, even though it's like I
don't want to be, I don't wantto at all, but it is ingrained,
(02:24):
and so I though it's like Idon't want to be, I don't want
to at all, but it is ingrained,and so I think it's powerful to
be honest and truthful, andthat's what I saw the women
doing in our session.
Even when it's hard to talkabout our truths, I think, or
our strengths and opportunities,they were truthful and they
were, they were honest, and Ireally loved that.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
That's a great word, jay.
I am Gabby Eichenlaub, I dooperations at VEST and I think,
kind of in line with your word,I think relatable would be my
takeaway from the session.
I think, you know, sometimes wehave this idea that you're the
only one that's going throughthis no one really.
You know you're alone in thestruggles that you're facing, or
maybe seeing.
You know the strengths that youhave and, after hearing some of
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the members takeaways, I thinkthat's something that they
shared was that they were ableto relate to other members.
They had so much more in commonthan not, even though these are
women across stages in theircareer, across industries and
sometimes even across regions.
They were able to relate toeach other and that's super
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powerful, I think, as you divedeeper into these conversations,
to be able to relate to othersand be honest about what you're
going through.
So I think relatable is is mykey takeaway.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I'm Sarah.
I'm Sarah Sotario.
I take care of well, I helptake care of everything related
to membership, but less, and myone word is support.
I think it's so hard as women.
I think it's so like, relatedto Jay, to what you said.
I think it's so hard as women.
I think it's so like, relatedto what you said, I think it's
so hard often.
It is often so hard to see yourown strength.
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So it was really inspiring tosee so many women highlight
others, other women's strength.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Um, and I think that just um, that's what's so
beautiful about this is that youdo have this safe um space
where women can come and supportone another and just um, remind
each other of what theirstrengths are, even though it's
harder to see, uh, for yourself,but I love being able to see
that at the session.
But I love being able to seethat at the session.
Thank you for sharing.
My next question for you guysis why do you think this session
was important to have?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
particularly around this time.
I think, coming off thebeginning of the year, it's very
much the beginning of the yearis very much goal-oriented.
You're kind of focused, you'rekind of talking about what it is
that you want to do and then itkind of like falls off a bit
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and then you kind of get intothe realities of life and it can
get a little harder to kind ofrecenter back not only on your
goals but also what it is thatyou're bringing to the table,
because it can be so easy tojust focus on the end journey
and like everything that you'remissing to get there that you
forget that like you actuallybring a lot to the table already
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and how can you recenter onwhat you're already bringing to
the table to get to the end goalalready bringing to the table
to get to the end goal I was.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I think what comes to mind for me why it's important
right now for us to talk aboutour strengths and our
opportunities as women isbecause we're in a weird time
scary time, unpredictable timein our country right now and
scary as well, scary time.
And so I think, with all ofthose feelings, you can feel out
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of control and feel like youdon't have much control over
anything going on and, I think,centering it back on ourselves
and those that we trust andthose that we support, and can
relate to the three words thatwe thought of, I think being
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around those women and beingwith yourself and talking about
yourself, and what am I good atand what can I do with my
strengths and what opportunitiescan I do to make my community
feel better.
I think that is reallyimportant right now.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Sarah, anything to add?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah, I suppose it's just.
It allows you to feel to yourpoint of control and it empowers
you right when you talk aboutwhat you're good at, what you
can do, um, and just realize,like when you be on yourself too
, you know, when you gettogether with some powerful
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women that we can achieve somuch.
And then you start feelinghopeful and, um, you know, you
sort of drown out all the other,all the noise, but yeah, I also
think that you know it's easy.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Um, somebody was telling me the other day that we
are now consuming what used totake us like a year to consume.
We're now consuming it likewithin a day or something like
that.
And then we're also workingmore than we've ever worked
before, in terms of hours plusmanaging household, plus caring
for our loved ones.
All of this is easy, I think,for us to fall into this
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reactionary mode of like justdoing what is expected of us,
and maybe this is where you weregoing with Gabby earlier.
Like you know, it's easier.
You know what your role is, youknow what the expectations of
your role are, so you're justperforming against that, and so
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most of the time it's hard forus to make time to say, wait,
what am I good at?
Because I'm just doing, doing,doing.
I've seen that in myself andI've seen it in other best
members who have confided in me.
And then the other thing that Isee that again I'm guilty of as
well.
There's no judgment here, sothis is a judgment-free zone,
but I think I know that I'vedone it in the past.
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I compare myself to otherpeople that that seem to have it
figure out or that seem to befurther along, even though maybe
they're not.
But it's just easy for us to,instead of looking within, right
, like what do I bring to thetable?
What do I really enjoy doing?
What if I was to lead from thisplace of strength and joy, it's
easier to say, well, man, shehas it figured out.
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Man, she just got thatpromotion.
Man, she just landed that role.
Man, she's working for thatcompany that you know provides
all of those benefits.
And it's then we get into thismindset that it's not even like
to your point, jay, from a placeof control, right, like we're
controlling the narrative, we'recontrolling what we see as our
strength, we're controlling whatsuccess looks like for us, and
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then we just become reactionary.
And maybe then, maybe this isanother way, because I know that
, even though we're a womennetwork for women, we're very
real into discussing that notall women have always been
supportive of each other,discussing that not all women
have always been supportive ofeach other.
Maybe one reason is that, youknow, we are led to believe or
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ourselves get into a mindset oflike, let's compete with one
another instead of supportingone another and helping each one
of us bring out our ownstrengths and then lead from a
place of that and then figureout what success looks for us
individually, and it might becompletely different than yours,
even though I was comparingmyself with you.
So, anyways, that is somethingthat I don't know if you guys
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heard, but it was one of thepatterns that I kept hearing
from when we were hosting thesession last week on this topic.
I want to break it down into.
So there was five.
When we got together after thesession, I think all of us
identify five patterns that wesee based on the responses from
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members and kind of the feedbackthat we received from them.
Number one was the need to nameand claim your strengths.
Right, and sometimes, again,it's hard for us to make time to
say, hmm, what am I good at.
Sometimes, again, it's hard forus to make time to say, hmm,
what am I good at.
And a way that you can do thatis through reflection and ask
another for feedback, like, ifyou're really struggling to
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figure out, what am I reallygood at, what do I really bring
to the table, maybe going backto others.
And so we did an exercise wherewe break down members into
groups so that other peoplecould also give them feedback on
, maybe, some of the stringsthat they hadn't realized they
have.
What do you think about thiskey takeaway of naming your
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strings and claiming them?
And then, but before we evenname them and claim them, how do
we identify?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
them.
Well, something I really likedthat a member said is when you
are, when you are talking aboutyour strengths and your and and
what you talked about atdifferent tables and different
opportunities, cause those canbring opportunities to you
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through people who love andsupport you.
So, once you have talked withthose people who you love and
trust about what your strengthsare, what they think that your
strengths are, and you have agood good idea of how you want
to be described to people indifferent rooms that you're not
in, tell those people how youwant to be described to people
in different rooms that you'renot in.
Tell those people how you wantto be described so that we're
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not left to wonder, you know, ifwe're being compared or if you
know you kind of have controlover that.
You know.
Tell those people who you loveand trust how you want to be
described and what yourstrengths are, so that that's
spreading around and in a waythat you that you like.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I think it goes back to what you're saying earlier to
Jay, in terms of naming, namingyour strengths, and it's part
of that controlling thenarrative too, right?
So instead of just havingeverything come at you and
letting other people tell youwhat you're good at or maybe
your job dictate what you'regood at you can then take
control of the narrative interms of, like, this is what I
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actually like to do, this iswhat you know brings me energy.
This is the part of my job thatfills me up the most.
You know, we work on a smallteam, so a lot of us do a lot of
the tasks, but there arecertain areas where you just you
are filled up a little bit more, right, and so I think that's a
(13:04):
good way to really see whatyour strengths may be and really
dive deeper on those, right.
I think another part to kind ofgoes back to your goals, like
what is it that you want to workon and what strengths you need,
you know, maybe to um, to workon to get there, um, but I think
all of it comes down tocontrolling the narrative again,
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controlling your, your, your um, your own narrative to work
towards what you, what it isthat you want to do and not just
like where life or where yourjob is taking you right.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Gabby, one of the things that you mentioned
throughout the sessionconsistently was the need to not
wait for others to recognizethose strengths, right.
So often we're told just workhard and people will notice your
efforts and your job, but thereality is that, I mean, I'm not
saying that it never happens,but it doesn't happen at scale
right and it doesn't happenconsistently and it doesn't
happen to everyone.
So you mentioned consistentlythroughout the session the need
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for members to own beingambitious and to not waiting for
others to recognize theirstrengths and to use those
strengths again to create pathsfor them that align with your
goals.
What?
Why were you so adamant aboutthat specific point and and why
did you keep repeating that tobest members?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I think it's important to remember I fall
victim to it too right Of justlike putting your head down,
working, kind of just goingaround, going about your day and
like obviously doing your bestbut not really advocating for
the things that you want, oradvocating for yourself.
Really Right, like I think wewe shared on our socials.
(14:50):
Like being good at your job isnot enough.
You have to advocate foryourself too, and I think that
comes in a variety of ways,whether that's, you know,
advocating for the work that youhave been doing.
Speaking up and saying like thisis the taking ownership of your
work and your strengths, Ithink is one.
I think it can also be about theopportunities that you want,
(15:13):
right?
So not expecting that thingsare going to come to you, but
really claiming that narrative,claiming your strengths, and
saying like, okay, this is thegoal that I have, I want to be.
You know, if we're talkingabout communication, I want to
be.
You know, speaking at paidevents, okay, then I need to be
out there saying this is whatI'm good at, this is what I want
to talk about, and talking tothose people that can kind of
(15:36):
help get you there.
And I think the third part is Ithink Sarah, you mentioned this
having a group of people thatwill be around you, that are
trusted, right, that you canthen share those opportunities
and, jay, you mentioned this toothat will be speaking for you
as well, that will be speakingon your behalf to when you're
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not in the room.
So, creating a group of trustedpeople that you've shared these
wants and needs with and thenthat you know they will be out
there, you know, bringing you tothe tables even when you're not
there.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Gosh.
This is particularly true rightnow.
We talked about the environmentthat we're operating and I know
that, unfortunately, there'sbeen a lot of layoffs and people
looking for job opportunities.
And then there's the shame thatcomes with that right
Unfortunately, because we'vebeen socialized to think that
that's somehow abnormal careercontrol and I think we've all
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experienced that in our careersat one point or another, whether
it was being let go ordownsizing or whatever that
affected our career transitionbut somehow we associated it
with shame, like, oh my gosh,and as a result, we don't talk
to people.
We don't tell people that we'relooking for opportunities, we
don't tell people that, hey,this is what I'm good at and
(16:59):
please share the word.
So I yeah, yes to everythingthat you guys are mentioning,
because mentioning because Ithink it's very real and it's it
can help so many people if wenormalize asking for help,
identifying our strengths andthen asking other people to
advocate on our behalf whenwe're not in the room.
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So loving all of this.
The last item that we discussedas a key takeaway was that we
also needed to act on therecognition, and I think you
spoke on this a little bit,gabby, but I want to give it up
to Sarah and Jay to alsoelaborate.
But the need to.
You know, oftentimes,especially women, we're told oh
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my gosh, gabby, you're so greatat operations and making
everything streamlined and easyfor people to understand, and
blah, blah, blah.
And then we go like thanks andleave it at that, right, like,
oh, thank you.
Oh, it's a team effort, whichit is most of the time it is,
but, like we often don't takecompliments very well, that's
(18:05):
for another, maybe podcastepisode.
But the other one is we alsojust leave it at that, oh,
thanks, when in fact we can useit to create opportunities,
right, oh well, thank you, thatyou mentioned I'm very good at
streamlining.
By the way, I'm looking forfunding to create this.
How do you leverage complimentsafter people identify your
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strengths to then createopportunities for yourself?
And you mentioned this, gabby.
Like right now, if somebodycompliments you that you're a
great speaker, you know maybefollowing up, say, hey, thanks
for thanks for your feedback.
By the way, I'm available forthe rest of the year if you know
of any other speaking gigs, youknow, like, just how do we get
rid of the, how do we becomebold and how do we don't let
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opportunity slide Because wejust let it at you're great, and
we didn't leverage on thatcompliment anybody else wants to
share, or is it just me?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
no, I think that that is totally something I also
struggle with and, like I talkedabout in the beginning of of
this session, like you know, aswomen we have this idea grained
into us from from when we werelittle to be humble and to just
be gracious and oh, thank you,and oh, I don't want to go into
what I'm good at, but, um, weshould, and we totally, we
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totally should, should talkabout what we're good at and
what strengths we have to leadto opportunities.
And I and I know it can feeluncomfortable, um, but sometimes
when things are good for us,they feel uncomfortable and I
think that's okay and gettingused to that uncomfortability
until it's comfortable.
So, maybe, practicing with,like we said, friends that you
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trust, and something that like Ithink would be a good idea is
to just have a friend, keepasking you like why?
So, if you say I'm good at this, to just have a friend keep
asking you like why?
So if you say I'm good at this,why, and then well, how are you
good at it?
Just kind of practice with afriend, talk about some one of
your strengths and then ask themto just keep asking you
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questions.
So then you just keep talkingabout what you're good at, why
you're good at it, how you'regood at it.
What can you do with that?
You know, I think justpracticing to get kind of out of
that uncomfortability oftalking about ourselves is a
good idea.
And then I was also going tosay one other thing.
I forgot, but if it comes backto you, if it comes back to me,
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I'll let you guys know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Gabby, Sarah, anything you want to add.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I just wanted to speak to.
I think we're we're also awareof the double standard that
comes with women speaking up,whether that is
speakingconfident or demandingor whatever, whatever the word
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that we've heard around, thrownaround before.
I think it's important to againname, name the challenge right,
that there is a double standard, and then work towards like
okay, whether that's personallyor in the workplace, you know,
acknowledging other women'sefforts.
I think it's just important toalso acknowledge that double
standard.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
What are you talking about, gabby?
Never heard of that before.
Huh, no, very thank you forhighlighting that and great
reminder for us all.
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
I want to add, just like I think it's important to
also keep an eye out, you know,just to support other women in
within your circle, but alsomaybe a little bit beyond it,
just if you know that they coulduse some help with advocating
or finding their strength.
Just to do that, for them to bethat person.
(21:53):
Because we often lookinternally, you know what's in
it for me, what can I get out ofit.
But I do think when you do, youknow, when you look outward,
you can find, hey, you know Ican be supportive Because that's
what we want, right, that'swhat we're saying.
Let's not be, let's supportother women.
We're women who support otherwomen, right?
We're not pitting ourselvesagainst one another or each
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other.
So let's be that person to like, look out for, for those who
need help too, and not noteveryone has that, that friend
group or that safe space, so youcould be that too to that
person, right?
So I think that's key.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
All right.
So this goes to all of youthree.
What is one strength you'reclaiming more boldly this year?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I think my voice and I feel confident in my voice and
in using it for advocacy andfor power.
I, you know, love this topic.
I love helping build confidencein people.
(23:01):
Um, and being kind of, you knowhow I was talking about.
If anybody ever needs practice,you know, I would love to help
you feel more confident and talkabout that, because I think it
can do wonders.
So I think for me, I'm justreally dwelling into the power
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that my voice has.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I really enjoy caring for others.
I enjoy seeing how helpful thatcan be.
So I'm going to just continueworking on that and, at the same
time, setting boundaries andcaring for myself too, because I
need that to be able to extendthat to others.
So that's what I'm focusing onfor myself.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Those are all really great.
Um, I feel like I am claimingthe strength of rest, right, the
strength of not always havingto be involved in something or
working on something, or justconstantly feeling productive.
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I think, personally, that's oneI need to I'm working on not
that I need to be better at theone that I'm working on Because
it's important to give ourselvesthe time to recover, right, so
we can work, show up better, canwork show up better, not only
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in our work life, but also ourpersonal life, right, I have two
little kids, so I want to makesure that when I am with them, I
don't have the brain fog.
I want to make sure that when Iam at work, you know I'm
productive and ready to go forworking, for you know the
members that we have in ourorganization, the amazing
speakers that we get to comespeak, and so I know that, in
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order to do all that, I need tomake sure that I'm caring for
myself, like you said, sarah,but also just taking the time to
not always be on.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
This doesn't have to be everyone, if nothing comes to
mind, but if it does come tomind, what is one opportunity
that you're going to pursuebecause of this strength?
It could be something fun Imean, Gabby, you said you want
to spend more time with yourkids without the brain fog but
could also be an opportunity.
Or it can be something fun likemaking time for you.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, I think for me it will be fun.
I am working on our vacations,actually having them planned out
, not to the T, but just knowing, okay, this is going to happen.
It's not going to be a reactivelike oh, I need one right now,
but really taking those times.
(25:58):
So that's a big one.
And then the small one is likewhen work is done, I'm done.
Not answering weekends isfamily time when I'm?
You know, the kids are startingbaseball soon, so when they're
at the games I'm not checking,checking phone for emails that
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came through or anything likethat.
So just like trying to havemore of a focus during those
times.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, setting boundaries Amazing.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Sarah, I can absolutely relate to Gabby.
I mean, like I feel like she'sjust taking the words out of my
mouth.
That's what I would like to.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Jay, I think I can't think of any like big big things
right now, but just using myvoice to feel empowered and feel
decisive.
I know, like I'm, I can be apeople pleaser and so, like you
know, being in like anindecisive realm can feel
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comfortable or kind of passingoff decisions to other people,
or you know whatever you want todo or whatever is fine with me,
and I think taking more controlof of my decisions and what I
would like and I have power inmy voice and so I can create the
(27:22):
reality that I want and notjust be passive and pass it on
to other people.
Even if it's a small or bigthings you know, like what do we
want for dinner, then you knowI don't have to let other people
decide even something smalllike that.
If I want pizza, I'll say Iwant pizza, things like that.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
It starts with small steps, right, and then those
small steps just become largerand larger and larger.
Yeah, I love well.
Thank you so much for takingthe time to do this.
I am one very grateful to havethe opportunity to work with
each and every one of you.
I learn every day from you andI know our best members do as
well and just really gratefulfor the time here today and for
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sharing and for being able to.
You know, like I tell peopleall the time, I have the best
job in the world.
I get to work with the bestpeople and we're doing it to
help women and working family,Like the reason why we do the
things that we do.
I think it's what keeps usgoing, so you're part of that.
Why?
So?
Thank you so much.
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If you are listening to thisepisode, we have a challenge for
you.
Take 10 minutes today, rightright after this session, so
don't say I'm going to do itlater.
Just right after you click stopor this episode ends.
Take 10 minutes and write downthree strengths that you know
you have.
If you're struggling in thisarea, ask someone that you trust
(28:50):
to name one or more, so to helpyou identify and get clear into
what your strengths are andthen look for strengths that,
look for areas in which you canturn those strengths into
opportunities.
Right, how are you going tolead from that place of strength
and what opportunities mightyou tackle on this year or next
(29:10):
year?
And then, after you do thisexercise, we want you to think
really hard of finding a supportcommunity consistently.
It doesn't matter what subjectwe talk about.
At best, something that comesup every time is the need to ask
for help and the thewillingness to receive help, and
(29:31):
that comes with having asupport community.
Right, we know how importantrelationships are, but
traditional networking eventsreally doesn't do it right.
We need to be intentional aboutbuilding meaningful connections
and really building supportcommunities with people that
share our values and that aregoing to be there to support us
when we need it.
That's how we get morecomfortable asking for help and
(29:54):
more comfortable receiving it.
So we can't stress enough theimportance of building that
support community.
You can find those online.
You know there's some freeoptions with online communities.
Find an in-person community.
It could be a trade community.
So if you're in a certainindustry that you find or
selfish, plug here.
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We would love to have you as aVest member, Consider joining
our peer community.
Invest in yourself so often aswomen.
If our kids need tutoring, noproblem, we'll invest in a tutor
.
If we need to send support or acare package for a friend or a
loved one, no problem, We'llinvest and send them that.
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But when it comes to investingin our own professional
development and our own sanityand our own support systems, we
see it as a luxury, and that'sanother thing we need to
normalize investing in ourselfand investing in tools and
systems that support us, notjust when we do it for somebody
else.
So, with that, consider joiningour VAST community.
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You can learn more atwwwvastherco.
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