September 9, 2025 • 13 mins
Ever wondered how to master complex veterinary procedures without someone physically guiding you? Technical Tutorial Videos (TTVs) are revolutionizing veterinary education by providing visual demonstrations that text alone simply cannot convey.
In this illuminating conversation, three-time TTV author Dr. Rebecca Bishop shares her journey creating peer-reviewed video manuscripts for the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association. She reveals how these innovative publications serve as powerful teaching tools for techniques ranging from equine tracheobronchial washing to surgical instrument handling for left-handed practitioners. This latter topic holds special significance for Dr. Bishop, who was once told to "give up hope of being a surgeon" because she was left-handed – a limitation she has thoroughly disproven and now helps others overcome through her video teaching.
Dr. Bishop demystifies the production process, explaining how she plans content strategically, captures video footage, and records audio separately to create polished, educational resources. She shares practical advice for potential video creators: "Don't let fear of performance or technology hold you back." Unlike standard online videos, these manuscripts undergo rigorous peer review while remaining open access, allowing authors to retain copyright and share widely for teaching purposes. The format provides unique opportunities for collaboration, with Dr. Bishop involving veterinary trainees in scriptwriting and production.
Whether you're a practicing veterinarian seeking to expand your technical repertoire, an educator looking for innovative teaching methods, or a veterinary professional considering sharing your expertise through this medium, this episode offers valuable insights into the future of veterinary education. Watch Dr. Bishop's published technical tutorial videos on the AVMA Journals website or YouTube channel and consider how you might contribute to this growing educational resource.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
You're listening to Veterinary Vertex, a podcast of
the AVMA Journals.
In this episode we chat aboutthe Javma technical tutorial
videos with our guest, rebeccaBischoff.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
episode we chat about the Javma technical tutorial
videos with our guest, rebeccaBishop.
Welcome listeners.
I'm Editor-in-Chief LisaFortier and I'm joined by
Associate Editor Sarah Wright.
Today we have three-time authortechnical tutorial video.
Author, rebecca Bishop.
We're really excited listeners.
This is a super cool novelmanuscript type that, to our
(01:05):
knowledge, really only Javma hasin veterinary medicine.
So, rebecca, thanks for takingtime to be here with us today
and share this exciting newswith our listeners.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, thank you so much, Sarah and Lisa, for
inviting me to be here today.
I'm really excited to talkabout these fun new type of
papers.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Awesome, all right.
Well, let's trot on over.
I figured that was appropriate,since most of your technical
tutorial videos are about equinetopics.
So, Rebecca, like we said today, we're chatting with you about
our Javon AJVR TechnicalTutorial Videos, or TTVs for
shorts.
So these video manuscripts arenarrated video or animation
sequences that provide apractical tutorial on a
(01:41):
technique, different tools,methodologies or approaches in
any area of veterinary medicine.
As I said, you publishedseveral of these video
manuscripts.
What was your experience withcreating and submitting these
videos?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well.
So, as you can guess, giventhat we've published a few of
them now, I've had a reallygreat time working on them and
really enjoyed kind of thedifferent creative outlet
compared to writing traditionalpapers and scientific works.
So I have some background inediting video Just like playing
around with iMovie and kind ofthings like that and I really
(02:15):
enjoy getting into newtechnologies and figuring out
how they work.
So I've really been of ourgroup like the one spearheading
the video editing.
But it was a very interestingprocess to go through, kind of
like how do we think about whenwe're teaching these different
approaches?
What do we need to go throughstep by step and really you know
(02:38):
, to put the videos together?
I had to take a step back tothink about laying it out and I
can certainly talk a little bitmore about how we went about
that process if you want.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, you've really been a leader, I know, at your
institution too.
I had another faculty member atyour institution reach out to
me and said Rebecca's publishingthese really cool videos.
I want to do that too.
How can I do that?
So thanks for being a leaderthere.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, and I've met with a couple of people other
people here in differentservices and certainly happy if
anybody wants to reach out tokind of share some tips and
tricks how we went about doingit.
Awesome, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So how did you choose the topics for your video
manuscripts?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So we, you know, we were excited about the platform
and so we sat down as a groupand thought about what are
techniques that would beapplicable to practitioners out
in the field, even though wework in a hospital setting.
And then what would be kind ofminimally invasive that we could
do with our teaching horse ofthe horses that are available to
us through donation in the timethat's allotted, that would
(03:36):
provide the most impact.
And so we kind of came up witha list and together decided on.
We have the video on the trachwash and abdominocentesis, which
are like very nice bite-sizedprocedures that are also doable
by a single practitioner.
And then my other video is aboutleft-handed surgical instrument
use, and as a left-handedsurgeon myself, I felt like that
(03:57):
was an area where I didn't geta lot of support as a trainee,
and I actually had somebody tellme when I was a vet student
that I should give up hope ofbeing a surgeon because I was
left-handed.
So that's something that wasreally personally important and
is the one I've probably usedthe most to share with students
and surgical trainees here tosay you know, take this, sit at
(04:18):
home, look at it, watch it andtry to digest.
You know how you can apply someof these thoughts to your own
instrument handling.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Thank you for teeing up my question.
You just described one way inhow you've used these videos and
since they're open accesses,you know, and for our listeners,
of course, if they're openaccess, rebecca and her team
retain the copyright so they canpost them on their own website,
other than sharing with thestudents.
How else have you used thesevideo manuscripts since you
published them?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So far I've cited one of them in a paper and a grant
because I do work withperitoneal fluids, so having a
current resource of how we dothe abominacentesis was really
useful.
And certainly have not shared.
I've shared them on, like myLinkedIn and my social medias.
I have my own YouTube channel.
(05:07):
That's pretty minimal so Ihaven't shared it there, but
mostly I've used it for teachingeither current or former
students.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You said earlier that you have some experience with
video editing.
It's you know, as teachers, aseducators, we're always talking
Well, we're showing something.
Here's a tip.
Here's how you do this.
How did you incorporate thatinto these video manuscripts
when you were creating them?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So the way I went about the process because when
you think about sitting down tofilm yourself doing something, I
think it's pretty stressful tothink like I need to get
everything I want to say and doall done in one shot and do it
correctly.
So from the beginning of theprocess I you know, sitting in
my office kind of came up with astep by step you know what are
(05:50):
the important points I want tocapture and thought about like
what would be better as a stillimage, what do I need a video of
?
And then decided right from thebeginning that I was going to
record the audio separately,because although on the clinic
floor we're always doing andtalking at the same time, I feel
like it can be much harder toget everything out that you want
(06:14):
.
So I had a lot of pictures andvideo and then I played with.
I used Adobe Premiere Pro wasthe editing platform that I used
.
That was I'd never used itbefore.
It was like really userfriendly.
I did some tutorials and just,you know, you can put the video
in and then you can record audioright over the top of it, and
(06:35):
so I would slow down or speed upthe video or create freeze
frames where I needed to saymore, rather than being standing
there with the live horse andthings in my hand trying to talk
through everything I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And things in my hand , trying to talk through
everything I wanted to.
Yeah, thanks for sharing thatinformation, because I feel like
that's the biggest hurdle forpeople.
When we talk about these videosand we try to like recruit for
them too, it's like, oh, I don'tknow how to make a video and
it's like, well, there's toolsout there and we have a guy on
our website too with someproduction tips.
They're hopefully useful.
But it's nice to hear too,you're resourceful as well and
and kind of doing this on yourown.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, and I think even for people who aren't at a
big institution, like you,probably know somebody in your
circle who, if you're not verytechnologically savvy, is a
little bit more comfortable, andso it can be a great way to get
other people involved in theprocess.
But having a really clear andflexible plan from the beginning
I think was helpful in makingsure that we didn't need to go
(07:30):
back and record more contentlater on.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So, rebecca, as you know, one of the cool things
about these videos is that, asopposed to just like going to a
website or even like YouTube, isthat they're peer reviewed, so
we have viewers looking at themjust like any other manuscripts.
So how was the peer reviewprocess for your submitted video
manuscripts?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
The peer review process was really
straightforward.
There is the little abstractthat goes along with the video,
which the first one I did was alittle bit tricky to write
because it's a different likeit's different content than what
you usually put in a scientificmanuscript, but the abstract
format is still the same.
Once I'd done one and there wasalready some examples online
Now of course, there's more thatwas a little bit easier to
(08:11):
figure out.
So, really, the peer reviewershad a couple bits of feedback
for those abstracts and thenwhenever you do something,
whether it's a paper or apresentation, you always miss
details.
That's going to live on theinternet forever, like as
opposed to a conferencepresentation, and there was a
(08:35):
couple of things about citationsI had to fix and a little bit
of voice recording that I had todo, which was another reason I
was really glad that I chose theapproach we did, where I could
just go back and rerecord likeone sentence or have my
co-author rerecord a couple ofsentences that needed to be
fixed, rather than having torepeat a voiceover completely.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So, with all this being said, what advice would
you give to listeners who may beinterested in creating and
submitting a video manuscriptfor publication in Jabmer or
AJBR?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, I would say, go for it.
Don't let, like, the fear ofperformance or the fear of the
technology hold you back.
Get your team involved,whatever that team might look
like.
I think for folks in academicpositions, it was a great way
for us to get some of ourtrainees involved in the process
.
So we had a veterinary internwho was a co-author on one of
(09:23):
the papers and she did all thescript writing even though she
wasn't presenting.
So that was a good exercise forher to go through like thinking
about the steps of everythingthough she wasn't presenting.
So that was a good exercise forher to go through like thinking
about the steps of everything.
And, yeah, just reach out towhatever resources you need to
help piece it together.
Have a plan and do it.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Very, very cool, Rebecca.
As Sarah said, remember theseare in AJVR too.
I published one in a differentjournal a long time ago about
creation of destabilization ofthe medial meniscus in a mini
pig model.
Again, reading about it is onething, but having somebody say
like, ooh, that's how you wantto position the animal and now
flex it a little bit, can reallybe helpful.
(10:01):
We really appreciate yourinsight and sharing with our
listeners today.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, I think the other thing I wanted to share a
little bit about because there'ssome things that when you're
teaching you really want to putyour hands or put somebody
else's hands on the patient andso one of the ways we thought
around that, like having thevideo, is nice to show people.
But I did.
I made some illustrations aswell in a couple of the videos
to help you know, when we do atrach wash, you say palpate and
(10:28):
you feel for the spot where thestrap muscles join.
Well, you can't feel on a videoand you can't see it through
the skin.
So getting a little bitcreative about some of the
images, I think I hope at leastwas helpful for readers and
viewers to better understandwhat we were doing.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, the other part I wanted to emphasize.
You talked about yourveterinary team.
We encourage veterinarytechnicians to create and submit
these too.
They do a lot of really cooltechniques that maybe they
didn't get to learn in theirveterinary technician school or
they haven't gotten exposure toyet.
So the whole team we'd like toget involved in these video
manuscripts.
As we come to a close, rebecca,we'd like to ask a little bit
(11:07):
more of a personal question.
If you'd have it, please liftit up and show the listeners who
are watching what is the oldestor the most interesting item on
your desk or in your deskdrawer.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So I keep a collection of kind of patients,
specimens, enteroliths, teeth,bladder stones, things like that
.
But my favorite one I'm goingto have to stand up to get it.
My favorite one is a stick thatI pulled out of a horse's
anguinal region a couple ofyears ago that it had been out
(11:40):
on a trail ride and took a badstep and shoved the stick up in
its groin, managed to miss.
It was right next to the penis,it was right next to the
femoral vessels.
It missed everything, wentthrough and throughout the
backside and made a pretty coollittle troop.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
My seventh grade horse did that.
He fell forward on a tree hadfallen over and it left a big
spike and it went in theaxillary region and same thing.
Like I didn't know any betterback then and now I just think
how did he miss all thosestructures?
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, and they were a mile and a half out on the
trail.
So the dad like used anotherhorse's reins to truss it up and
stabilize it, and then theveterinarian did a really nice
job of bandaging it.
So everything was still inplace when he got to us and
under anesthesia we were able topull it right out, that's
amazing, I don't have one ofthose on my equine shelf.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Wow, that's super cool, Rebecca.
We need to make a compilationtoo, I feel like, of these
interesting items on your deskbecause, as veterinarians, as
you said, we have really coolunique items and people have
shared some of the findings.
So thank you so much, Rebecca,for being here today and also
for helping us spearhead thiseffort to get these video
manuscripts up and going so wecan teach the next generation.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me and for the
opportunity.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And to our listeners.
You can watch Rebecca'spublished technical tutorial
videos or video manuscripts onour website or on the AVMA's
YouTube channel.
I'm Sarah Wright with LisaFortier.
Be on the lookout for nextweek's episode and don't forget
to leave us a rating and reviewon Apple Podcasts or whatever
platform you listen to.
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nutrition with science-backedrecipes.
Greenies Supplements, developedby a team of PhD animal
nutritionists, offers options tohelp support healthy joints,
(00:22):
digestion and more, Whether it'smealtime or mobility support.
Greenies helps you care foryour dog from the inside out.
Learn more at greeniescom.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You're listening to Veterinary Vertex, a podcast of
the AVMA Journals.
In this episode we chat aboutthe Javma technical tutorial
videos with our guest, rebeccaBischoff.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
episode we chat about the Javma technical tutorial
videos with our guest, rebeccaBishop.
Welcome listeners.
I'm Editor-in-Chief LisaFortier and I'm joined by
Associate Editor Sarah Wright.
Today we have three-time authortechnical tutorial video.
Author, rebecca Bishop.
We're really excited listeners.
This is a super cool novelmanuscript type that, to our
(01:05):
knowledge, really only Javma hasin veterinary medicine.
So, rebecca, thanks for takingtime to be here with us today
and share this exciting newswith our listeners.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, thank you so much, Sarah and Lisa, for
inviting me to be here today.
I'm really excited to talkabout these fun new type of
papers.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Awesome, all right.
Well, let's trot on over.
I figured that was appropriate,since most of your technical
tutorial videos are about equinetopics.
So, Rebecca, like we said today, we're chatting with you about
our Javon AJVR TechnicalTutorial Videos, or TTVs for
shorts.
So these video manuscripts arenarrated video or animation
sequences that provide apractical tutorial on a
(01:41):
technique, different tools,methodologies or approaches in
any area of veterinary medicine.
As I said, you publishedseveral of these video
manuscripts.
What was your experience withcreating and submitting these
videos?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well.
So, as you can guess, giventhat we've published a few of
them now, I've had a reallygreat time working on them and
really enjoyed kind of thedifferent creative outlet
compared to writing traditionalpapers and scientific works.
So I have some background inediting video Just like playing
around with iMovie and kind ofthings like that and I really
(02:15):
enjoy getting into newtechnologies and figuring out
how they work.
So I've really been of ourgroup like the one spearheading
the video editing.
But it was a very interestingprocess to go through, kind of
like how do we think about whenwe're teaching these different
approaches?
What do we need to go throughstep by step and really you know
(02:38):
, to put the videos together?
I had to take a step back tothink about laying it out and I
can certainly talk a little bitmore about how we went about
that process if you want.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, you've really been a leader, I know, at your
institution too.
I had another faculty member atyour institution reach out to
me and said Rebecca's publishingthese really cool videos.
I want to do that too.
How can I do that?
So thanks for being a leaderthere.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, and I've met with a couple of people other
people here in differentservices and certainly happy if
anybody wants to reach out tokind of share some tips and
tricks how we went about doingit.
Awesome, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So how did you choose the topics for your video
manuscripts?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So we, you know, we were excited about the platform
and so we sat down as a groupand thought about what are
techniques that would beapplicable to practitioners out
in the field, even though wework in a hospital setting.
And then what would be kind ofminimally invasive that we could
do with our teaching horse ofthe horses that are available to
us through donation in the timethat's allotted, that would
(03:36):
provide the most impact.
And so we kind of came up witha list and together decided on.
We have the video on the trachwash and abdominocentesis, which
are like very nice bite-sizedprocedures that are also doable
by a single practitioner.
And then my other video is aboutleft-handed surgical instrument
use, and as a left-handedsurgeon myself, I felt like that
(03:57):
was an area where I didn't geta lot of support as a trainee,
and I actually had somebody tellme when I was a vet student
that I should give up hope ofbeing a surgeon because I was
left-handed.
So that's something that wasreally personally important and
is the one I've probably usedthe most to share with students
and surgical trainees here tosay you know, take this, sit at
(04:18):
home, look at it, watch it andtry to digest.
You know how you can apply someof these thoughts to your own
instrument handling.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Thank you for teeing up my question.
You just described one way inhow you've used these videos and
since they're open accesses,you know, and for our listeners,
of course, if they're openaccess, rebecca and her team
retain the copyright so they canpost them on their own website,
other than sharing with thestudents.
How else have you used thesevideo manuscripts since you
published them?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So far I've cited one of them in a paper and a grant
because I do work withperitoneal fluids, so having a
current resource of how we dothe abominacentesis was really
useful.
And certainly have not shared.
I've shared them on, like myLinkedIn and my social medias.
I have my own YouTube channel.
(05:07):
That's pretty minimal so Ihaven't shared it there, but
mostly I've used it for teachingeither current or former
students.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You said earlier that you have some experience with
video editing.
It's you know, as teachers, aseducators, we're always talking
Well, we're showing something.
Here's a tip.
Here's how you do this.
How did you incorporate thatinto these video manuscripts
when you were creating them?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So the way I went about the process because when
you think about sitting down tofilm yourself doing something, I
think it's pretty stressful tothink like I need to get
everything I want to say and doall done in one shot and do it
correctly.
So from the beginning of theprocess I you know, sitting in
my office kind of came up with astep by step you know what are
(05:50):
the important points I want tocapture and thought about like
what would be better as a stillimage, what do I need a video of
?
And then decided right from thebeginning that I was going to
record the audio separately,because although on the clinic
floor we're always doing andtalking at the same time, I feel
like it can be much harder toget everything out that you want
(06:14):
.
So I had a lot of pictures andvideo and then I played with.
I used Adobe Premiere Pro wasthe editing platform that I used
.
That was I'd never used itbefore.
It was like really userfriendly.
I did some tutorials and just,you know, you can put the video
in and then you can record audioright over the top of it, and
(06:35):
so I would slow down or speed upthe video or create freeze
frames where I needed to saymore, rather than being standing
there with the live horse andthings in my hand trying to talk
through everything I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And things in my hand , trying to talk through
everything I wanted to.
Yeah, thanks for sharing thatinformation, because I feel like
that's the biggest hurdle forpeople.
When we talk about these videosand we try to like recruit for
them too, it's like, oh, I don'tknow how to make a video and
it's like, well, there's toolsout there and we have a guy on
our website too with someproduction tips.
They're hopefully useful.
But it's nice to hear too,you're resourceful as well and
and kind of doing this on yourown.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, and I think even for people who aren't at a
big institution, like you,probably know somebody in your
circle who, if you're not verytechnologically savvy, is a
little bit more comfortable, andso it can be a great way to get
other people involved in theprocess.
But having a really clear andflexible plan from the beginning
I think was helpful in makingsure that we didn't need to go
(07:30):
back and record more contentlater on.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So, rebecca, as you know, one of the cool things
about these videos is that, asopposed to just like going to a
website or even like YouTube, isthat they're peer reviewed, so
we have viewers looking at themjust like any other manuscripts.
So how was the peer reviewprocess for your submitted video
manuscripts?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
The peer review process was really
straightforward.
There is the little abstractthat goes along with the video,
which the first one I did was alittle bit tricky to write
because it's a different likeit's different content than what
you usually put in a scientificmanuscript, but the abstract
format is still the same.
Once I'd done one and there wasalready some examples online
Now of course, there's more thatwas a little bit easier to
(08:11):
figure out.
So, really, the peer reviewershad a couple bits of feedback
for those abstracts and thenwhenever you do something,
whether it's a paper or apresentation, you always miss
details.
That's going to live on theinternet forever, like as
opposed to a conferencepresentation, and there was a
(08:35):
couple of things about citationsI had to fix and a little bit
of voice recording that I had todo, which was another reason I
was really glad that I chose theapproach we did, where I could
just go back and rerecord likeone sentence or have my
co-author rerecord a couple ofsentences that needed to be
fixed, rather than having torepeat a voiceover completely.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So, with all this being said, what advice would
you give to listeners who may beinterested in creating and
submitting a video manuscriptfor publication in Jabmer or
AJBR?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, I would say, go for it.
Don't let, like, the fear ofperformance or the fear of the
technology hold you back.
Get your team involved,whatever that team might look
like.
I think for folks in academicpositions, it was a great way
for us to get some of ourtrainees involved in the process
.
So we had a veterinary internwho was a co-author on one of
(09:23):
the papers and she did all thescript writing even though she
wasn't presenting.
So that was a good exercise forher to go through like thinking
about the steps of everythingthough she wasn't presenting.
So that was a good exercise forher to go through like thinking
about the steps of everything.
And, yeah, just reach out towhatever resources you need to
help piece it together.
Have a plan and do it.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Very, very cool, Rebecca.
As Sarah said, remember theseare in AJVR too.
I published one in a differentjournal a long time ago about
creation of destabilization ofthe medial meniscus in a mini
pig model.
Again, reading about it is onething, but having somebody say
like, ooh, that's how you wantto position the animal and now
flex it a little bit, can reallybe helpful.
(10:01):
We really appreciate yourinsight and sharing with our
listeners today.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, I think the other thing I wanted to share a
little bit about because there'ssome things that when you're
teaching you really want to putyour hands or put somebody
else's hands on the patient andso one of the ways we thought
around that, like having thevideo, is nice to show people.
But I did.
I made some illustrations aswell in a couple of the videos
to help you know, when we do atrach wash, you say palpate and
(10:28):
you feel for the spot where thestrap muscles join.
Well, you can't feel on a videoand you can't see it through
the skin.
So getting a little bitcreative about some of the
images, I think I hope at leastwas helpful for readers and
viewers to better understandwhat we were doing.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, the other part I wanted to emphasize.
You talked about yourveterinary team.
We encourage veterinarytechnicians to create and submit
these too.
They do a lot of really cooltechniques that maybe they
didn't get to learn in theirveterinary technician school or
they haven't gotten exposure toyet.
So the whole team we'd like toget involved in these video
manuscripts.
As we come to a close, rebecca,we'd like to ask a little bit
(11:07):
more of a personal question.
If you'd have it, please liftit up and show the listeners who
are watching what is the oldestor the most interesting item on
your desk or in your deskdrawer.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
So I keep a collection of kind of patients,
specimens, enteroliths, teeth,bladder stones, things like that
.
But my favorite one I'm goingto have to stand up to get it.
My favorite one is a stick thatI pulled out of a horse's
anguinal region a couple ofyears ago that it had been out
(11:40):
on a trail ride and took a badstep and shoved the stick up in
its groin, managed to miss.
It was right next to the penis,it was right next to the
femoral vessels.
It missed everything, wentthrough and throughout the
backside and made a pretty coollittle troop.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
My seventh grade horse did that.
He fell forward on a tree hadfallen over and it left a big
spike and it went in theaxillary region and same thing.
Like I didn't know any betterback then and now I just think
how did he miss all thosestructures?
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, and they were a mile and a half out on the
trail.
So the dad like used anotherhorse's reins to truss it up and
stabilize it, and then theveterinarian did a really nice
job of bandaging it.
So everything was still inplace when he got to us and
under anesthesia we were able topull it right out, that's
amazing, I don't have one ofthose on my equine shelf.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Wow, that's super cool, Rebecca.
We need to make a compilationtoo, I feel like, of these
interesting items on your deskbecause, as veterinarians, as
you said, we have really coolunique items and people have
shared some of the findings.
So thank you so much, Rebecca,for being here today and also
for helping us spearhead thiseffort to get these video
manuscripts up and going so wecan teach the next generation.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me and for the
opportunity.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And to our listeners.
You can watch Rebecca'spublished technical tutorial
videos or video manuscripts onour website or on the AVMA's
YouTube channel.
I'm Sarah Wright with LisaFortier.
Be on the lookout for nextweek's episode and don't forget
to leave us a rating and reviewon Apple Podcasts or whatever
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