February 26, 2025 • 52 mins
Voices Cary Illinois Live with Randy Scott February 25th 2025
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The next metro train approaching your station will be a Metro Express train and will not
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stop.
Welcome to Voices of Cary Live.
My name is Randy Scott.
I am broadcasting to you at home live from the beautiful village of Cary, Illinois.
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This podcast was designed and started for you at home.
This is your megaphone and this is your microphone.
It is a venture of mine to try to bridge the gap between social media and talking with
your neighbor.
We used to live in a place where everybody waved to each other when you are passing by
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in a car.
That is what I am trying to tap into again.
Seems like we have strayed away from it.
This is my venture to do that and to bring people together.
We broadcast this transmission going to XRumble YouTube.
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your podcast from.
If you do not wish to see my face for radio and my Easter plaid shirt.
Thank you for joining me today.
What are we going to look at today?
I came across this post on Cary and Fox River Grove the younger years.
It is a Facebook page.
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We are going to be taking a look at Veterans Park in Cary.
That is a picture of the fountain and the park behind it.
There were some pictures of the pond that made it online.
We are also going to take a look at this banner here.
I am going to tell you the story of this banner and take a look at some pictures of Route
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14 way back in 2007.
It is a banner that I acquired that was on the ground, forgotten about.
I saved it.
Anybody in Public Works that wishes to have it back, you may.
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Just contact me at VoicesCary at Proton.me.
I wanted to save it.
It shows how long I am on Cary.
It goes more than just me growing up here and me having that relationship with the schools
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and the streets and firefighting.
Firefighting really transforms literally every street in your hometown for good and bad.
I would say more good than bad.
Can I drive down without seeing some stuff that I have seen while firefighting?
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That is the reason why I got into that profession.
Life what do you got for me?
I want to see what you have for me so I can well equip my kids with the future of you
might come across this and how to handle it and mitigate it.
I left the fire department when I had my daughter and now we have two kids, one on the way.
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Started a business to try to create more family time.
In the process of starting that business, I found some things that needed correction,
turned over some logs and saw behind the curtain a little bit.
For the longevity of my kids and their kids, here I am.
What else are we going to look at?
The banner and then the old carry sign.
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It is hard to see that there but it was the old wood one.
The old wood sign there.
Then we will take a look at that.
Then also the last few episodes that we have had going into last week, we were watching
a budget meeting for the Village of Cary.
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We do live watch parties of village board meetings.
It is really just to bring it to a new platform.
Let's face it, it is dry material.
That is one of my goals is to make it more, to make that veil and that barrier to entry
into getting involved with your local decision making more seamless.
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It seems like right now between some decisions that are being made with the vision of Cary
and the residents, it seems like we are on different sheets of music right now.
I would like for us to get on the same sheet of music.
This is a snapshot of the packet.
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It deals with roadways and in their condition.
This is from 2023 from their budget workshop presentation.
This is from 2025.
We will be looking at that and seeing the trend there and seeing if everything makes
sense with how much time and resources they are allocating to projects and private partnerships
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and doing all that footwork and dancing with all those projects and see if the street outside
in front of your house is seeing that same sort of attention and maybe there is something
we can do about that.
Let me pull up.
This is Cary and Fox River Grove, the younger years.
I actually just recently came across this in my research for the show.
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I am just making sure that the audio is...
I had an issue with audio yesterday.
So I apologize for that.
I am just checking the audio.
Then Cary Fox River Grove chat.
I came across this recently and it seems like it has been in existence for a long time and
I am surprised I haven't come across it.
Here it is.
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There was a post recently, today that I saw, of the Veterans Park and these are the pictures
that they posted.
There was some discussion about how the Park District and Cary Public Works is taking care
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of parks and I kind of wanted to let you know what I saw here.
This is...
I will jump to this picture.
This is a picture that you saw in the beginning.
That is actually a Park District employee.
That is in April 19.
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If you look up here, you can go back and see later dates on Street View and that is from
2019.
We will be looking at more late Street Views from past years going back to 2007.
But that fountain there has some...
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It looks like it has had quite a few coats of paint on it.
There are some cool moldings in there.
It is Cary, Illinois and it has two L's, the old abbreviation, first abbreviation.
I just wanted to break these pictures down for you of what I saw and some of my experiences
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because I kind of had a front row seat to...
Like the inner workings of...
Public Works, we would work together on some projects like safety for their water treatment
plants and when a hydrant busted, we would have them come out.
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Then also starting a business, Public Works, even before we opened, I put in a work order
for a street light at the corner there and literally the next day they were out there
doing it.
The Park District as well, they have quite a bit of land.
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They could have more land with the Rotary Park that we will talk about later.
But they have a golf course, they have a whole bunch of stuff, they have a preschool.
I think we are really blessed.
I think we are...
I would say given the amount of attention and what I have seen, I would say that our
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Park District surpasses Crystal Lakes.
From what I have seen, I don't know about land counts and land values, but just from
the care and attention from it.
You might have different experiences, but that is from what I saw.
And then also the other picture here, I am seeing over winter, a lot of stuff happens
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over winter and this was kind of the first day all the snow melted.
I am not really concerned about that, but the dredging and some of the other things
that were mentioned.
I have seen really good things from the Park District, so I want to say that.
And then also, one thing that I can really say is the...
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Being in those organizations, you can only do as much as the person above you allows
you to do.
So there might be...
For this instance, at this corner here, we all know that is a hot corner.
And they have just with the past budget meeting, they reviewed a plan.
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They have a plan to where they could acquire some of those properties and kind of adjust
how that turns there.
So it kind of is a...
They put attention to where it is like...
You saw it with Maplewood.
It is like going back 13 years with Maplewood, well, we do not know what we are going to
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do with this property.
We are still waiting on developers.
We are still waiting on all these relationships to kind of come in line here.
And you are kind of stuck in limbo.
So why would they put in a whole bunch of effort into an area to where it might get
tore up?
And you saw that with Rotary Park as well.
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They put down gravel.
I was like, why did they put gravel on all this?
And I was thinking that must be because they are planning on doing something.
And sure enough, they are planning on doing the water tower project, which will raise
water prices and waste water, waste prices for you, but to facilitate those apartments
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out on 31.
So that is kind of a...
You can only do as much as a person above you allows you to do and that glass ceiling
is hard to overcome.
But from what I have seen from the Park District and from the public works, they are out there
doing it.
We have a lot of intelligent, strong people in the village of Cary and it is just about
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getting on that right sheet of music to where kind of prioritizing the street in front of
your house again instead of public-private partnerships that we are starting to see pop
up for instance.
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This here, that is a blank screen, hold on.
This is Alfresco Alley and this is from the presentation from the budget workshop.
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And when I say public-private partnerships, I am not a huge fan of public-private partnerships,
3P, for the following reason.
If you look at this picture, these right here are kiosks which will be selling drinks, which
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will be selling whatever out of there, which are under the banner of the village of Cary.
So now the village of Cary is getting into alcohol sales and food service.
And this right here is something called...
This land right here, they are leasing to somebody for $500 a month to have drinks.
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And right over here you have the Tracks Bar and Grill.
So imagine you are the owner of Tracks Bar and Grill and literally the village of Cary
is setting up their own operation right there.
I am a big believer in the invisible hand of commerce.
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I have used the example of even golf courses, the mini golf course in Lippold Park in Crystal
Lake.
It is a competition from government against private.
And some would say even preschool, I think they do good work there, but it is a slippery
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slope of getting into private and now your tax dollars are going to go against private
business.
So that is making it harder for our kids to start businesses and ourselves to start businesses.
And then also getting back to the street in front of your house.
When you come into work at the village of Cary, pretend you work at the village of Cary,
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you are, let me run to this picture here.
This is a snapshot of the 23 and the bottom is 25, the presentation for, this is showing
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roadways.
So this is out in front of your house.
Pretty much on the top, those top numbers on the right side of your screen are right
here.
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These are what I want you to take a look at because the other side is kind of hard to
navigate.
But in 2023, you have had 0.2% failed roads in the village of Cary.
And then fast forward to 2025, it is up to 1% failed roads.
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2023, 1.6 had the Sirius designation.
And then in 2025, 6% now have Sirius.
And then going down, very poor, 9% on 23 and then 25, 14% for very poor.
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And then so on and so on.
So how does that affect you?
So when you work at the village of Cary and you come in and you are tasked with, hey,
let's try to facilitate some grant work and some permits and some other things to get
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some liquor licenses in downtown and start up, you know, set up shop and have some kiosks
and have three kiosks down there.
And hey, while we are at it, let's, at Rotary Park, it is, Rotary Park is actually, you
are starting to look at the village of Cary getting two park districts now.
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Because the village of Cary is buying equipment that the park district already has just to
kind of have a three oaks recreation area of their own, like 2.0.
And then that is all at the expense of your roadways in the front of your house.
So it comes down to like time and resources that we could be taking a look at to where
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we can better use them instead of maybe looking into apartments and growth.
And that doesn't just happen overnight.
That's actually, you can see there from 23, like that's multiple years of them being tasked
with things that don't directly affect you and your services.
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And some would say, well, you know, Randy, that's growth and that's, you know, that's
how we're going to make, you know, add to the coffers to get those roads better.
But that's a great way of thinking.
But my problem with that is I've seen and researched why communities want to grow, why
communities want to sign on to the cookie cutter, carbon copy, new design that we're
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seeing in every single town, especially along the tracks.
And it has to do with growing and getting money coming in for it comes down to big banking,
big banks, more investments.
Because our tax dollars don't just sit there, they are investments as well.
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And if you have a bank at the steering wheel and somebody with a clipboard, and if you're
at the, if you just go with the whim at the whim of these people with clipboards saying,
you know, you need to have this, this and that, and not really pulling your audience
of saying, well, this is what our community needs and this is what we're going to do.
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And you're just focused on making all these, checking all these boxes of, you know, the
new cookie cutter of the of the of the century.
You have your fun and then at the byproduct of that is when everybody gets out of Dodge,
now you're left with this shell of what used to be a tight knit community.
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And I'm all for bringing, you know, having growth in the community.
It's just, it seems like all this has come like, has been coordinated to where all these
projects are sitting on the tarmac waiting to take off.
And it seems it, it just seems to that it needs to have some attention into where your
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voices need to be heard again.
Going back, let's go to the banner.
Let's talk about the banner.
Man, that shirt.
This is one of the first times I wear this shirt without my vest and I look like an Easter,
Easter bunny.
Let's go.
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So at the budget meeting, they had designs and I thought I had the other design pulled
in but they had they had different designs for the, let me see if I can pull it in real
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quick.
Actually, I'll just I'll go here and I'll show you these designs.
Oh, that is it.
Never mind.
Excuse me.
It's just cut off on my my scene here.
So let me adjust that.
Okay, there we go.
So at the budget meeting, this was a slide for the budget meeting that they had.
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It's downtown banners 25, 26 projected expense for $5,000 for these banners here.
And, you know, they're they're nice.
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Not a huge fan of the circle logo.
I liked our old wood logo with the farmland and the this circle logo just it seems like
it's everywhere.
Like every community has it.
It seems too corporate to me.
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It's very cold.
And everybody's a critic.
But that's my opinion.
I think the overall quality of these are nice.
I don't like usually the lifespan of these like we'd be looking at these for quite some
time, you know, five, five, seven years.
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And I'm not really looking forward to having this kind of atmosphere of any town USA with
the new cookie cutter mentality.
I'm not looking forward to that.
This is what we used to have.
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All up and down 14.
This is in front of Walgreens here.
This is in 2007.
You look up here, 2007.
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And pretty much along 14.
You can still see the remnants of these.
The brackets are still on there.
We used to welcome people in our community with this.
With the American flag.
Which to me symbolizes everybody's welcome.
But it also symbolizes to me that, you know, there's a saying like if you're I'll share
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with my kids when they get old enough.
But if you ever lost, like look for somebody with an American flag on their house.
And you know, that's not a it's a it's a saying that, you know, there's a certain amount of
pride and ownership.
And you know, there's to me that flag represents whatever you believe in, whatever you whatever
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religion you are, whatever race you are.
And it's it's welcoming.
That's my interpretation of the flag.
And I think having that coming into the community is powerful.
And I think the the the branding effort of trying to go and you know, those were nice
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designs.
But I think I think, you know, that's back in 2007.
Let me show you the lifespan of these of what I pulled up.
So that's 2007.
That's also 2007.
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Showing you on both sides of both sides of the streets.
They have them.
This is actually the one where this one came from.
This poll right here.
That's from 2007.
And I was curious.
I was like, you know, when did these disappear?
So there's 2009.
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Google captured some some kids having fun on bikes.
There's a banner up there.
This is 2012.
And they're gone and they're replaced with a whole bunch of communication equipment.
There are still some down here.
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You can still see them a little bit.
But this is the one that I found that was on the side of the road.
It was down here.
And I believe I parked here and I got it.
And the I was going to return it.
But then very shortly after, they were all gone.
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As you can see by this picture.
So I was like, well, maybe I'll hold on to this.
But there is an open invitation to anybody from Public Works that might want to retrieve
that.
So we might here.
I'll share with you my idea after this.
But all this telecommunication equipment, it's kind of ironic because we replaced it.
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This is to my knowledge.
Up here and here.
This is a repeater for 5G, I believe.
This is some handlers and stuff.
But in no way, like here's 2021.
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And in no way, shape or form is this monitoring Bluetooth or Wi-Fi and devices as they pass
by.
I just want to make that is not what these do.
That would be this one.
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Devices like this.
But it was kind of ironic that the American flag banner that I got was replaced with just
equipment.
And then every one of them in Cary was taken down.
And it's been hard to find an American flag.
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Like I think they did them on the train tracks like Metra.
They did them, I don't know if that was a Village of Cary thing or if that was Metra
doing that.
But when you come into the Village of Cary, you know, seeing like literally flag banner,
flag banner, flag banner, instead of American flags, or you know, that could be a discussion
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as well.
That is powerful.
I want to convey that if you when you come into our town, you're welcome.
When you come into our town, an American flag also says to me, especially that many of them
in a community, it says that we believe in law enforcement.
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And we believe in them being able to do their job without having a police state, of course,
but we have a strong police with a strong police response.
We have a strong fire department with a strong fire response, and Public Works go down the
row, but it goes to where it says they have the full backing of the municipality in which
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they work in.
That's what that conveys to me.
To where you are now in the Village of Cary, and it's kind of like a piece, it's like a
strength thing to where it's something I'd like to see come back.
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And with the banner behind me, I had an idea with it to where instead of doing the cookie
cutter, carbon copy, every town USA design, we bring back the American flags.
The one behind me would go up, and we have all of them that are about to go up, and we
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get people from the community sign them.
Like everybody, like we have one for each subdivision or multiple for each subdivision,
and you know, that's either done at like a block party or something, and they come and
they write on it and something like that.
To where, you know, we taking steps to get back on the same sheet of music between municipality
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and the resident.
I also pulled this, the Cary sign, this is in 2007, October 2007.
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And then this is 2012.
This is 2015.
This is 2016.
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2021.
The sign is completely missing.
And I remember when that happened, and I was like, I wonder if they're just waiting because
they have a new design.
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But the sign is completely gone here.
And the way it was missing, it looked like it had been like forcibly removed.
And then, so that's 2021 of December of 21.
And then this is October of 22.
So a full year went by when we had no welcome to Cary sign.
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And to me, that's mind boggling.
There's like, there's a subliminal aspect to that, that I believe in, to where like
you drive home and it kind of shows, you know, a sense of pride.
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Like a full year went by when we had no village of Cary sign.
Not even like a temporary one.
And that comes back to allocating resources to the glass ceiling.
So okay, the village of Cary sign is under the direction of public works.
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Now I think if public works was tasked with, okay, this needs to get done, they're going
to get it done yesterday.
And that's what I've seen from the public works.
Now if there's a glass ceiling of don't pay attention to that, we got stuff, we got stuff
cooking.
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Then you can only do as much as a person above you allows you to do.
And even if it was a temporary sign, and the ones that we have there now are, they were,
there was a donation for them, which I don't know, I've talked about this.
If you're like with District 26, with the PTOs, the PTO raises so much money for District
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26.
And that's like hard earned, like volunteer fundraising money.
And all that money goes, went to playground infrastructure.
And then for instance, like that was sitting, that village of Cary sign was sitting vacant
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for a year.
And either waiting for a donation, I don't know.
But if you're relying on donations for critical infrastructure, like, and I read this, like
critical infrastructure, and you're relying on donations, whether it's playground equipment,
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or your welcome sign to your village, there's something wrong.
There's something that needs attention to, and to get, to kind of recalibrate of where
we're spending time and resources.
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And then I also pulled our old train station.
There it is on the right side.
You could see all of downtown.
And then when they changed it, they built it, and they took all the frontage away of
downtown.
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And in commercial real estate, like frontage, and having those folks, you know, if you want
more downtown traffic, you want frontage, you want people to be able to see the happenings
and what's going on as they drive by.
And that new, it might have been to where they could have only put it.
I think it works better for commuters on that side, but maybe, you know, it's just interesting
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to me that they took away all that frontage of the downtown, since they're so hyper focused
on the downtown succeeding.
And I also wanted to hop into the budget discussion here.
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Before I do that, if you've never, I enjoy, that's the whole reason for the show is to
empower and to get you involved, to give you a resource and to, like, if you have a family
or if you're elderly and can't go out, if you have zero time because everybody, you
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know, you're working, I try to make this resource to you to where you have a voice and you have
somebody that might be like-minded to you to where you don't feel alone.
I felt alone for a while in the ways and views of how I wanted to see the world turn out
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and my community turn out for the sake of my kids.
And this is what I'm doing.
You know, you can only talk about it so much before you start doing it.
This is the Village of Cary code.
And this code costs $100,000 to put together.
It's maintained by an outside service.
It's over 800 pages long.
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The bumper cars on there symbolize you have your village operations, you have public works,
you have, you know, business, and everything's working, right?
And with bumper cars, you usually have a metal top and these scrape the metal top and get
electricity and they go through the motor and then go through the floor.
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And you don't get electrocuted because you can't touch the ceiling at the same time as
the floor.
But the reason why I have this analogy was I used to work at Six Flags and I was like,
that's a great, I'm a visual learner, but I also, I enjoy books, but I enjoy having
visual.
I enjoy like Mythbusters, the program, and he was a great, both those guys were great
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science communicators, especially Adam Savage.
And that was something that I'm striving to strengthen in myself.
So I was like, okay, when you go on a bumper car, you're worried about having fun and being
with your kids and your family and you're not paying attention to the sparks that are
coming off.
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And those sparks resemble lost energy that could be going through that motor, i.e. village
services, i.e. sidewalks, roads, and instead it's getting diverted to private partner,
public private partnerships competing with our, you know, and we have like four apartment
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complexes in the works.
I think we've just might have gone a few miles down the wrong way at the last intersection
and I want to get us back to that intersection.
Another thing, I know you guys enjoy hearing me talk about Six Flags, this is one time
at Six Flags.
No, I'd like to use all my past work history as, there's a reason why I had two ears and
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one mouth at some of these places.
I've learned their strengths and their weaknesses and I try, I'm wanting to bring all that
to the village instead of just going along to get along and checking off boxes of the
going trends.
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So Six Flags is a corporation, they have parks all over the US and you know the CEO of Six
Flags, the prior one, had the vision of a national brand and he forgot about the local
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of the park.
He didn't realize that most of their traffic and their attendance came from a hundred mile
radius and he focused on making it a national brand, cookie cutter rides in all the parks
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and you lost that sense of community and I'll tell you what, the theme park community is
very traditional.
They believe in tradition and they believe heavily in respecting the history of their
park is what I learned from when they worked there and under that leadership, that CEO
forgot about that and when a new CEO came in, he said this is not a national brand,
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it may be but these are local parks to local people and once that shift was made, they
succeeded greatly after that, after taking care of getting what the park needed instead
of just you know for instance like you know you go to the trade show for roller coasters
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and you'll say like yeah I'll take 20 of those and that's the same thing of like the Chicago
mindset of where or the world mindset to where okay now you need everything to be this.
And you lose sight of your local park, your community and that's what I want to bring
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back is that local focus to not just doing what's on the clipboard of somebody that says
your town needs to have this, the area needs to have more commuter adjacent housing.
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I'm worried about, I think about Carrie and it's important to think about your neighbors
and your county but it goes back to like the airplane mentality to where you know you help
yourself so you can help others and right now it's not feasible with you know we're
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going to have all these high rises and apartments and if they're all in a TIF, like you're
going to have some strain on the school districts and park district.
I think they'll be fine though.
And then the roadways, like we saw the picture of the roadways, like where does that going
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trend end?
With what we saw earlier, where does that from 23 to 25, that's the local park mentality,
that's the road in front of your house.
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And I believe that's what we lost sight of.
We're bringing it back.
With the high rises and the apartments, I think Carrie, Crystal Lake, you know how many
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apartments are going in in Crystal Lake, right?
Like you drive down and there's a new, like they just approved a new project for more
apartments.
And here's the thing that I see potentially being an issue with that is you have so much
inventory in Crystal Lake of new apartments and then whatever Fox River Grove is going
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to do.
And essentially, like I've lived that lifestyle of living in apartments to where you're paying
25, $3,000 a month for a two bedroom and you have this modern looking workout place and
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yoga place and it feels good.
But then eventually that resort lifestyle is very, you're fatigued after a while.
You start thinking that you're a number and the amenities kind of just become mundane.
And I don't want to see that for Carrie.
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And then on the other side of it, of like the inventory issue, when the economy, like
we're going through massive changes right now.
Like they're getting, they're cleaning house at a federal level and they're slowly making
their way to start tinkering with the dollar.
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And when they do that and the economy gets strong again, which I mean, that's what we
have to be helpful for.
And that's what I always believe in.
That's what during the pandemic I was like, the sun's going to rise tomorrow and it's
going to be amazing.
So while everybody was closing, I was thinking about opening.
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Everybody's going to be wanting houses because that's ultimately like you don't go to a,
like you have a certain select amount of folks that want to go into an apartment and that's
their, that's their home app, they're downsizing and they want that.
But then also you have families that are living there and they don't want to be living there.
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And I know how that is.
And then where do you go?
If everybody signed onto the same program of the 15 minute city mentality, where do
you go?
You go to Kerry because they didn't sign onto that mentality.
They didn't take the cookie cutters.
They didn't take the carbon copy approach to everything.
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They were forward looking.
And I'm not saying we can never have.
I want to be that place to where, yeah, I'm living in Crystal Lake.
Like I can see, I can hear this conversation right now.
If things, if things, if the vision is right and it's acted upon.
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I'm living in Crystal Lake.
It's great.
$3,000 a month.
But then maybe one day I'll get to move to Kerry where it's a community, strong park
districts, strong police, strong fire.
It's a place where I can raise my family and have some equity in a house, do some improvements
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to it.
And you're backed by a community that doesn't have a veil between the village hall and its
citizens.
I can see that happening.
Now, when the economy gets better, you're going to have a lot of inventory on the market
of all these apartments.
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There's going to be mass vacancies of all these apartments with how much inventory there
is now and it's growing all the time.
If we put on 1,000 apartments into our community in the books and then the economy gets better,
everybody's moving out because they're going to houses.
And we have no houses because we built apartments.
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You move out and now you have all these vacancies in your community, then what happens?
Then the management company and the property owner says, hey, we need to compete.
We need to get some people in here.
We're lowering the prices.
And then your pride and ownership goes down, not only in the person who's living there,
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but in the management company and the property ownership.
So when that pride and ownership goes down, that love affair with commuter adjacent housing
goes out the window.
But by that time, everybody's gone.
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They had their fun.
It's not their concern.
It's our concern and it's my kids concern.
So we're going to get back on the same sheet of music.
And that's what I'm here to do.
Let me see if I have any text messages here or phone calls.
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I didn't hear it go off here.
But the more that I do the same time slot, I might try to do it earlier in a few weeks,
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depending on how things go to where I can come on earlier, like 10 o'clock.
Or maybe do two shows, 10 and 9.
Who knows?
But I think the more consistent I do this, the more and you know, when you were if you
were to call in, I don't I would talk with you beforehand.
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You wouldn't have to give your name or your phone number or anything like that.
And you know, it's just about talking.
Great things happen when we talk with our neighbor and we're all neighbors.
So I enjoyed putting this together for you at home today.
Thank you very much for joining me.
You can email me at voices, carry a proton dot me.
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That's voices, carry a proton dot me.
And I thoroughly enjoy this.
So thank you very much for joining me.
And I'll be here tomorrow at nine o'clock for you.
We'll see you then.
Have a great night.
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I am broadcasting to you at home live from the beautiful village of Cary, Illinois.
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This podcast was designed and started for you at home.
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It is a venture of mine to try to bridge the gap between social media and talking with
your neighbor.
We used to live in a place where everybody waved to each other when you are passing by
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in a car.
That is what I am trying to tap into again.
Seems like we have strayed away from it.
This is my venture to do that and to bring people together.
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If you do not wish to see my face for radio and my Easter plaid shirt.
Thank you for joining me today.
What are we going to look at today?
I came across this post on Cary and Fox River Grove the younger years.
It is a Facebook page.
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We are going to be taking a look at Veterans Park in Cary.
That is a picture of the fountain and the park behind it.
There were some pictures of the pond that made it online.
We are also going to take a look at this banner here.
I am going to tell you the story of this banner and take a look at some pictures of Route
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14 way back in 2007.
It is a banner that I acquired that was on the ground, forgotten about.
I saved it.
Anybody in Public Works that wishes to have it back, you may.
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Just contact me at VoicesCary at Proton.me.
I wanted to save it.
It shows how long I am on Cary.
It goes more than just me growing up here and me having that relationship with the schools
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and the streets and firefighting.
Firefighting really transforms literally every street in your hometown for good and bad.
I would say more good than bad.
Can I drive down without seeing some stuff that I have seen while firefighting?
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That is the reason why I got into that profession.
Life what do you got for me?
I want to see what you have for me so I can well equip my kids with the future of you
might come across this and how to handle it and mitigate it.
I left the fire department when I had my daughter and now we have two kids, one on the way.
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Started a business to try to create more family time.
In the process of starting that business, I found some things that needed correction,
turned over some logs and saw behind the curtain a little bit.
For the longevity of my kids and their kids, here I am.
What else are we going to look at?
The banner and then the old carry sign.
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It is hard to see that there but it was the old wood one.
The old wood sign there.
Then we will take a look at that.
Then also the last few episodes that we have had going into last week, we were watching
a budget meeting for the Village of Cary.
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We do live watch parties of village board meetings.
It is really just to bring it to a new platform.
Let's face it, it is dry material.
That is one of my goals is to make it more, to make that veil and that barrier to entry
into getting involved with your local decision making more seamless.
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It seems like right now between some decisions that are being made with the vision of Cary
and the residents, it seems like we are on different sheets of music right now.
I would like for us to get on the same sheet of music.
This is a snapshot of the packet.
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It deals with roadways and in their condition.
This is from 2023 from their budget workshop presentation.
This is from 2025.
We will be looking at that and seeing the trend there and seeing if everything makes
sense with how much time and resources they are allocating to projects and private partnerships
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and doing all that footwork and dancing with all those projects and see if the street outside
in front of your house is seeing that same sort of attention and maybe there is something
we can do about that.
Let me pull up.
This is Cary and Fox River Grove, the younger years.
I actually just recently came across this in my research for the show.
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I am just making sure that the audio is...
I had an issue with audio yesterday.
So I apologize for that.
I am just checking the audio.
Then Cary Fox River Grove chat.
I came across this recently and it seems like it has been in existence for a long time and
I am surprised I haven't come across it.
Here it is.
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There was a post recently, today that I saw, of the Veterans Park and these are the pictures
that they posted.
There was some discussion about how the Park District and Cary Public Works is taking care
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of parks and I kind of wanted to let you know what I saw here.
This is...
I will jump to this picture.
This is a picture that you saw in the beginning.
That is actually a Park District employee.
That is in April 19.
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If you look up here, you can go back and see later dates on Street View and that is from
2019.
We will be looking at more late Street Views from past years going back to 2007.
But that fountain there has some...
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It looks like it has had quite a few coats of paint on it.
There are some cool moldings in there.
It is Cary, Illinois and it has two L's, the old abbreviation, first abbreviation.
I just wanted to break these pictures down for you of what I saw and some of my experiences
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because I kind of had a front row seat to...
Like the inner workings of...
Public Works, we would work together on some projects like safety for their water treatment
plants and when a hydrant busted, we would have them come out.
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Then also starting a business, Public Works, even before we opened, I put in a work order
for a street light at the corner there and literally the next day they were out there
doing it.
The Park District as well, they have quite a bit of land.
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They could have more land with the Rotary Park that we will talk about later.
But they have a golf course, they have a whole bunch of stuff, they have a preschool.
I think we are really blessed.
I think we are...
I would say given the amount of attention and what I have seen, I would say that our
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Park District surpasses Crystal Lakes.
From what I have seen, I don't know about land counts and land values, but just from
the care and attention from it.
You might have different experiences, but that is from what I saw.
And then also the other picture here, I am seeing over winter, a lot of stuff happens
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over winter and this was kind of the first day all the snow melted.
I am not really concerned about that, but the dredging and some of the other things
that were mentioned.
I have seen really good things from the Park District, so I want to say that.
And then also, one thing that I can really say is the...
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Being in those organizations, you can only do as much as the person above you allows
you to do.
So there might be...
For this instance, at this corner here, we all know that is a hot corner.
And they have just with the past budget meeting, they reviewed a plan.
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They have a plan to where they could acquire some of those properties and kind of adjust
how that turns there.
So it kind of is a...
They put attention to where it is like...
You saw it with Maplewood.
It is like going back 13 years with Maplewood, well, we do not know what we are going to
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do with this property.
We are still waiting on developers.
We are still waiting on all these relationships to kind of come in line here.
And you are kind of stuck in limbo.
So why would they put in a whole bunch of effort into an area to where it might get
tore up?
And you saw that with Rotary Park as well.
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They put down gravel.
I was like, why did they put gravel on all this?
And I was thinking that must be because they are planning on doing something.
And sure enough, they are planning on doing the water tower project, which will raise
water prices and waste water, waste prices for you, but to facilitate those apartments
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out on 31.
So that is kind of a...
You can only do as much as a person above you allows you to do and that glass ceiling
is hard to overcome.
But from what I have seen from the Park District and from the public works, they are out there
doing it.
We have a lot of intelligent, strong people in the village of Cary and it is just about
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getting on that right sheet of music to where kind of prioritizing the street in front of
your house again instead of public-private partnerships that we are starting to see pop
up for instance.
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This here, that is a blank screen, hold on.
This is Alfresco Alley and this is from the presentation from the budget workshop.
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And when I say public-private partnerships, I am not a huge fan of public-private partnerships,
3P, for the following reason.
If you look at this picture, these right here are kiosks which will be selling drinks, which
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will be selling whatever out of there, which are under the banner of the village of Cary.
So now the village of Cary is getting into alcohol sales and food service.
And this right here is something called...
This land right here, they are leasing to somebody for $500 a month to have drinks.
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And right over here you have the Tracks Bar and Grill.
So imagine you are the owner of Tracks Bar and Grill and literally the village of Cary
is setting up their own operation right there.
I am a big believer in the invisible hand of commerce.
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I have used the example of even golf courses, the mini golf course in Lippold Park in Crystal
Lake.
It is a competition from government against private.
And some would say even preschool, I think they do good work there, but it is a slippery
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slope of getting into private and now your tax dollars are going to go against private
business.
So that is making it harder for our kids to start businesses and ourselves to start businesses.
And then also getting back to the street in front of your house.
When you come into work at the village of Cary, pretend you work at the village of Cary,
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you are, let me run to this picture here.
This is a snapshot of the 23 and the bottom is 25, the presentation for, this is showing
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roadways.
So this is out in front of your house.
Pretty much on the top, those top numbers on the right side of your screen are right
here.
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These are what I want you to take a look at because the other side is kind of hard to
navigate.
But in 2023, you have had 0.2% failed roads in the village of Cary.
And then fast forward to 2025, it is up to 1% failed roads.
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2023, 1.6 had the Sirius designation.
And then in 2025, 6% now have Sirius.
And then going down, very poor, 9% on 23 and then 25, 14% for very poor.
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And then so on and so on.
So how does that affect you?
So when you work at the village of Cary and you come in and you are tasked with, hey,
let's try to facilitate some grant work and some permits and some other things to get
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some liquor licenses in downtown and start up, you know, set up shop and have some kiosks
and have three kiosks down there.
And hey, while we are at it, let's, at Rotary Park, it is, Rotary Park is actually, you
are starting to look at the village of Cary getting two park districts now.
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Because the village of Cary is buying equipment that the park district already has just to
kind of have a three oaks recreation area of their own, like 2.0.
And then that is all at the expense of your roadways in the front of your house.
So it comes down to like time and resources that we could be taking a look at to where
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we can better use them instead of maybe looking into apartments and growth.
And that doesn't just happen overnight.
That's actually, you can see there from 23, like that's multiple years of them being tasked
with things that don't directly affect you and your services.
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And some would say, well, you know, Randy, that's growth and that's, you know, that's
how we're going to make, you know, add to the coffers to get those roads better.
But that's a great way of thinking.
But my problem with that is I've seen and researched why communities want to grow, why
communities want to sign on to the cookie cutter, carbon copy, new design that we're
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seeing in every single town, especially along the tracks.
And it has to do with growing and getting money coming in for it comes down to big banking,
big banks, more investments.
Because our tax dollars don't just sit there, they are investments as well.
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And if you have a bank at the steering wheel and somebody with a clipboard, and if you're
at the, if you just go with the whim at the whim of these people with clipboards saying,
you know, you need to have this, this and that, and not really pulling your audience
of saying, well, this is what our community needs and this is what we're going to do.
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And you're just focused on making all these, checking all these boxes of, you know, the
new cookie cutter of the of the of the century.
You have your fun and then at the byproduct of that is when everybody gets out of Dodge,
now you're left with this shell of what used to be a tight knit community.
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And I'm all for bringing, you know, having growth in the community.
It's just, it seems like all this has come like, has been coordinated to where all these
projects are sitting on the tarmac waiting to take off.
And it seems it, it just seems to that it needs to have some attention into where your
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voices need to be heard again.
Going back, let's go to the banner.
Let's talk about the banner.
Man, that shirt.
This is one of the first times I wear this shirt without my vest and I look like an Easter,
Easter bunny.
Let's go.
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So at the budget meeting, they had designs and I thought I had the other design pulled
in but they had they had different designs for the, let me see if I can pull it in real
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quick.
Actually, I'll just I'll go here and I'll show you these designs.
Oh, that is it.
Never mind.
Excuse me.
It's just cut off on my my scene here.
So let me adjust that.
Okay, there we go.
So at the budget meeting, this was a slide for the budget meeting that they had.
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It's downtown banners 25, 26 projected expense for $5,000 for these banners here.
And, you know, they're they're nice.
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Not a huge fan of the circle logo.
I liked our old wood logo with the farmland and the this circle logo just it seems like
it's everywhere.
Like every community has it.
It seems too corporate to me.
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It's very cold.
And everybody's a critic.
But that's my opinion.
I think the overall quality of these are nice.
I don't like usually the lifespan of these like we'd be looking at these for quite some
time, you know, five, five, seven years.
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And I'm not really looking forward to having this kind of atmosphere of any town USA with
the new cookie cutter mentality.
I'm not looking forward to that.
This is what we used to have.
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All up and down 14.
This is in front of Walgreens here.
This is in 2007.
You look up here, 2007.
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And pretty much along 14.
You can still see the remnants of these.
The brackets are still on there.
We used to welcome people in our community with this.
With the American flag.
Which to me symbolizes everybody's welcome.
But it also symbolizes to me that, you know, there's a saying like if you're I'll share
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with my kids when they get old enough.
But if you ever lost, like look for somebody with an American flag on their house.
And you know, that's not a it's a it's a saying that, you know, there's a certain amount of
pride and ownership.
And you know, there's to me that flag represents whatever you believe in, whatever you whatever
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religion you are, whatever race you are.
And it's it's welcoming.
That's my interpretation of the flag.
And I think having that coming into the community is powerful.
And I think the the the branding effort of trying to go and you know, those were nice
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designs.
But I think I think, you know, that's back in 2007.
Let me show you the lifespan of these of what I pulled up.
So that's 2007.
That's also 2007.
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Showing you on both sides of both sides of the streets.
They have them.
This is actually the one where this one came from.
This poll right here.
That's from 2007.
And I was curious.
I was like, you know, when did these disappear?
So there's 2009.
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Google captured some some kids having fun on bikes.
There's a banner up there.
This is 2012.
And they're gone and they're replaced with a whole bunch of communication equipment.
There are still some down here.
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You can still see them a little bit.
But this is the one that I found that was on the side of the road.
It was down here.
And I believe I parked here and I got it.
And the I was going to return it.
But then very shortly after, they were all gone.
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As you can see by this picture.
So I was like, well, maybe I'll hold on to this.
But there is an open invitation to anybody from Public Works that might want to retrieve
that.
So we might here.
I'll share with you my idea after this.
But all this telecommunication equipment, it's kind of ironic because we replaced it.
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This is to my knowledge.
Up here and here.
This is a repeater for 5G, I believe.
This is some handlers and stuff.
But in no way, like here's 2021.
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And in no way, shape or form is this monitoring Bluetooth or Wi-Fi and devices as they pass
by.
I just want to make that is not what these do.
That would be this one.
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Devices like this.
But it was kind of ironic that the American flag banner that I got was replaced with just
equipment.
And then every one of them in Cary was taken down.
And it's been hard to find an American flag.
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Like I think they did them on the train tracks like Metra.
They did them, I don't know if that was a Village of Cary thing or if that was Metra
doing that.
But when you come into the Village of Cary, you know, seeing like literally flag banner,
flag banner, flag banner, instead of American flags, or you know, that could be a discussion
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as well.
That is powerful.
I want to convey that if you when you come into our town, you're welcome.
When you come into our town, an American flag also says to me, especially that many of them
in a community, it says that we believe in law enforcement.
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And we believe in them being able to do their job without having a police state, of course,
but we have a strong police with a strong police response.
We have a strong fire department with a strong fire response, and Public Works go down the
row, but it goes to where it says they have the full backing of the municipality in which
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they work in.
That's what that conveys to me.
To where you are now in the Village of Cary, and it's kind of like a piece, it's like a
strength thing to where it's something I'd like to see come back.
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And with the banner behind me, I had an idea with it to where instead of doing the cookie
cutter, carbon copy, every town USA design, we bring back the American flags.
The one behind me would go up, and we have all of them that are about to go up, and we
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get people from the community sign them.
Like everybody, like we have one for each subdivision or multiple for each subdivision,
and you know, that's either done at like a block party or something, and they come and
they write on it and something like that.
To where, you know, we taking steps to get back on the same sheet of music between municipality
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and the resident.
I also pulled this, the Cary sign, this is in 2007, October 2007.
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And then this is 2012.
This is 2015.
This is 2016.
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2021.
The sign is completely missing.
And I remember when that happened, and I was like, I wonder if they're just waiting because
they have a new design.
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But the sign is completely gone here.
And the way it was missing, it looked like it had been like forcibly removed.
And then, so that's 2021 of December of 21.
And then this is October of 22.
So a full year went by when we had no welcome to Cary sign.
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And to me, that's mind boggling.
There's like, there's a subliminal aspect to that, that I believe in, to where like
you drive home and it kind of shows, you know, a sense of pride.
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Like a full year went by when we had no village of Cary sign.
Not even like a temporary one.
And that comes back to allocating resources to the glass ceiling.
So okay, the village of Cary sign is under the direction of public works.
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Now I think if public works was tasked with, okay, this needs to get done, they're going
to get it done yesterday.
And that's what I've seen from the public works.
Now if there's a glass ceiling of don't pay attention to that, we got stuff, we got stuff
cooking.
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Then you can only do as much as a person above you allows you to do.
And even if it was a temporary sign, and the ones that we have there now are, they were,
there was a donation for them, which I don't know, I've talked about this.
If you're like with District 26, with the PTOs, the PTO raises so much money for District
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26.
And that's like hard earned, like volunteer fundraising money.
And all that money goes, went to playground infrastructure.
And then for instance, like that was sitting, that village of Cary sign was sitting vacant
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for a year.
And either waiting for a donation, I don't know.
But if you're relying on donations for critical infrastructure, like, and I read this, like
critical infrastructure, and you're relying on donations, whether it's playground equipment,
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or your welcome sign to your village, there's something wrong.
There's something that needs attention to, and to get, to kind of recalibrate of where
we're spending time and resources.
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And then I also pulled our old train station.
There it is on the right side.
You could see all of downtown.
And then when they changed it, they built it, and they took all the frontage away of
downtown.
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And in commercial real estate, like frontage, and having those folks, you know, if you want
more downtown traffic, you want frontage, you want people to be able to see the happenings
and what's going on as they drive by.
And that new, it might have been to where they could have only put it.
I think it works better for commuters on that side, but maybe, you know, it's just interesting
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to me that they took away all that frontage of the downtown, since they're so hyper focused
on the downtown succeeding.
And I also wanted to hop into the budget discussion here.
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Before I do that, if you've never, I enjoy, that's the whole reason for the show is to
empower and to get you involved, to give you a resource and to, like, if you have a family
or if you're elderly and can't go out, if you have zero time because everybody, you
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know, you're working, I try to make this resource to you to where you have a voice and you have
somebody that might be like-minded to you to where you don't feel alone.
I felt alone for a while in the ways and views of how I wanted to see the world turn out
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and my community turn out for the sake of my kids.
And this is what I'm doing.
You know, you can only talk about it so much before you start doing it.
This is the Village of Cary code.
And this code costs $100,000 to put together.
It's maintained by an outside service.
It's over 800 pages long.
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The bumper cars on there symbolize you have your village operations, you have public works,
you have, you know, business, and everything's working, right?
And with bumper cars, you usually have a metal top and these scrape the metal top and get
electricity and they go through the motor and then go through the floor.
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And you don't get electrocuted because you can't touch the ceiling at the same time as
the floor.
But the reason why I have this analogy was I used to work at Six Flags and I was like,
that's a great, I'm a visual learner, but I also, I enjoy books, but I enjoy having
visual.
I enjoy like Mythbusters, the program, and he was a great, both those guys were great
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science communicators, especially Adam Savage.
And that was something that I'm striving to strengthen in myself.
So I was like, okay, when you go on a bumper car, you're worried about having fun and being
with your kids and your family and you're not paying attention to the sparks that are
coming off.
(38:10):
And those sparks resemble lost energy that could be going through that motor, i.e. village
services, i.e. sidewalks, roads, and instead it's getting diverted to private partner,
public private partnerships competing with our, you know, and we have like four apartment
(38:42):
complexes in the works.
I think we've just might have gone a few miles down the wrong way at the last intersection
and I want to get us back to that intersection.
Another thing, I know you guys enjoy hearing me talk about Six Flags, this is one time
at Six Flags.
No, I'd like to use all my past work history as, there's a reason why I had two ears and
(39:08):
one mouth at some of these places.
I've learned their strengths and their weaknesses and I try, I'm wanting to bring all that
to the village instead of just going along to get along and checking off boxes of the
going trends.
(39:30):
So Six Flags is a corporation, they have parks all over the US and you know the CEO of Six
Flags, the prior one, had the vision of a national brand and he forgot about the local
(39:54):
of the park.
He didn't realize that most of their traffic and their attendance came from a hundred mile
radius and he focused on making it a national brand, cookie cutter rides in all the parks
(40:15):
and you lost that sense of community and I'll tell you what, the theme park community is
very traditional.
They believe in tradition and they believe heavily in respecting the history of their
park is what I learned from when they worked there and under that leadership, that CEO
forgot about that and when a new CEO came in, he said this is not a national brand,
(40:41):
it may be but these are local parks to local people and once that shift was made, they
succeeded greatly after that, after taking care of getting what the park needed instead
of just you know for instance like you know you go to the trade show for roller coasters
(41:04):
and you'll say like yeah I'll take 20 of those and that's the same thing of like the Chicago
mindset of where or the world mindset to where okay now you need everything to be this.
And you lose sight of your local park, your community and that's what I want to bring
(41:26):
back is that local focus to not just doing what's on the clipboard of somebody that says
your town needs to have this, the area needs to have more commuter adjacent housing.
(41:47):
I'm worried about, I think about Carrie and it's important to think about your neighbors
and your county but it goes back to like the airplane mentality to where you know you help
yourself so you can help others and right now it's not feasible with you know we're
(42:10):
going to have all these high rises and apartments and if they're all in a TIF, like you're
going to have some strain on the school districts and park district.
I think they'll be fine though.
And then the roadways, like we saw the picture of the roadways, like where does that going
(42:33):
trend end?
With what we saw earlier, where does that from 23 to 25, that's the local park mentality,
that's the road in front of your house.
(42:56):
And I believe that's what we lost sight of.
We're bringing it back.
With the high rises and the apartments, I think Carrie, Crystal Lake, you know how many
(43:28):
apartments are going in in Crystal Lake, right?
Like you drive down and there's a new, like they just approved a new project for more
apartments.
And here's the thing that I see potentially being an issue with that is you have so much
inventory in Crystal Lake of new apartments and then whatever Fox River Grove is going
(43:49):
to do.
And essentially, like I've lived that lifestyle of living in apartments to where you're paying
25, $3,000 a month for a two bedroom and you have this modern looking workout place and
(44:10):
yoga place and it feels good.
But then eventually that resort lifestyle is very, you're fatigued after a while.
You start thinking that you're a number and the amenities kind of just become mundane.
And I don't want to see that for Carrie.
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And then on the other side of it, of like the inventory issue, when the economy, like
we're going through massive changes right now.
Like they're getting, they're cleaning house at a federal level and they're slowly making
their way to start tinkering with the dollar.
(44:52):
And when they do that and the economy gets strong again, which I mean, that's what we
have to be helpful for.
And that's what I always believe in.
That's what during the pandemic I was like, the sun's going to rise tomorrow and it's
going to be amazing.
So while everybody was closing, I was thinking about opening.
(45:16):
Everybody's going to be wanting houses because that's ultimately like you don't go to a,
like you have a certain select amount of folks that want to go into an apartment and that's
their, that's their home app, they're downsizing and they want that.
But then also you have families that are living there and they don't want to be living there.
(45:38):
And I know how that is.
And then where do you go?
If everybody signed onto the same program of the 15 minute city mentality, where do
you go?
You go to Kerry because they didn't sign onto that mentality.
They didn't take the cookie cutters.
They didn't take the carbon copy approach to everything.
(46:05):
They were forward looking.
And I'm not saying we can never have.
I want to be that place to where, yeah, I'm living in Crystal Lake.
Like I can see, I can hear this conversation right now.
If things, if things, if the vision is right and it's acted upon.
(46:27):
I'm living in Crystal Lake.
It's great.
$3,000 a month.
But then maybe one day I'll get to move to Kerry where it's a community, strong park
districts, strong police, strong fire.
It's a place where I can raise my family and have some equity in a house, do some improvements
(46:49):
to it.
And you're backed by a community that doesn't have a veil between the village hall and its
citizens.
I can see that happening.
Now, when the economy gets better, you're going to have a lot of inventory on the market
of all these apartments.
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There's going to be mass vacancies of all these apartments with how much inventory there
is now and it's growing all the time.
If we put on 1,000 apartments into our community in the books and then the economy gets better,
everybody's moving out because they're going to houses.
And we have no houses because we built apartments.
(47:34):
You move out and now you have all these vacancies in your community, then what happens?
Then the management company and the property owner says, hey, we need to compete.
We need to get some people in here.
We're lowering the prices.
And then your pride and ownership goes down, not only in the person who's living there,
(47:57):
but in the management company and the property ownership.
So when that pride and ownership goes down, that love affair with commuter adjacent housing
goes out the window.
But by that time, everybody's gone.
(48:20):
They had their fun.
It's not their concern.
It's our concern and it's my kids concern.
So we're going to get back on the same sheet of music.
And that's what I'm here to do.
Let me see if I have any text messages here or phone calls.
(48:41):
I didn't hear it go off here.
But the more that I do the same time slot, I might try to do it earlier in a few weeks,
(49:02):
depending on how things go to where I can come on earlier, like 10 o'clock.
Or maybe do two shows, 10 and 9.
Who knows?
But I think the more consistent I do this, the more and you know, when you were if you
were to call in, I don't I would talk with you beforehand.
(49:27):
You wouldn't have to give your name or your phone number or anything like that.
And you know, it's just about talking.
Great things happen when we talk with our neighbor and we're all neighbors.
So I enjoyed putting this together for you at home today.
Thank you very much for joining me.
You can email me at voices, carry a proton dot me.
(49:49):
That's voices, carry a proton dot me.
And I thoroughly enjoy this.
So thank you very much for joining me.
And I'll be here tomorrow at nine o'clock for you.
We'll see you then.
Have a great night.
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