December 11, 2023 • 67 mins
Ever wondered if it's possible to communicate with animals? Well, our guest, Karen Anderson, has proven it's more than possible. This former police officer turned animal communicator, author, and counselor joins us today to share her extraordinary journey. From humble beginnings, believing her ability to understand pets was normal, to using her animal communication skills to help solve crimes, Karen's tale is nothing short of inspiring.
Imagine if you could hear your pet's thoughts or even connect with them after they've passed on. Karen does just that and she'll share some heartwarming stories that underline this profound bond we share with our pets. One such account involves bringing comfort to a grieving client whose cat had passed away, revealing that the cat was still with her during a painful recovery period. It's stories like these that highlight the depth of the connections we form with our animal companions and how they can offer immense solace even in the most difficult times.
The final part of our chat takes us on a spiritual exploration of the relationship between humans and their pets. Karen shares her belief that animals teach us valuable life lessons and how they continue to accompany us in spirit even after their passing. We swap stories of how pets can aid in coping with grief and the signs people have received from their companions after they've moved on. If you've ever loved an animal, this is an episode you won't want to miss. Prepare for a journey that will deepen your understanding of the unique bond we share with our four-legged (and more) friends.
For more, visit https://www.karenanderson.net
Hosted by Douglas James Cottrell. This episode was produced by Paul Hughes, with co-production by Jack Bialik and audio engineering by Doug M Cottrell.
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Douglas James Cottrell (00:42):
Welcome everyone.
Today I have an amazing guestwho is going to talk about her
very unusual gift but veryimportant to all of us, all of
us who love pets.
I'm a dog person myself.
I know many of us are catpeople and I've also had horses,
and I lived in the country fora little bit back in the day
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when I moved out of this city,and there's an amazing synergy
we have with animals, andtoday's guest, Karen Anderson,
is going to tell us all abouther amazing discovery of this
really unique and wonderfulability to be able to
communicate with animals andhave them communicate with us
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and much, much more.
Karen's background is like allof us started off humbly.
She when was a young person.
She had some experiences.
She grew up and became a policeofficer number one in her class
, she had her own business andshe's written several books, and
I'm going to talk a little bitabout that.
But first, welcome to the show,karen.
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It's great to have you heretoday.
Thank you for being our guest.
Karen Anderson (01:49):
And thank you so much, Douglas.
This is just such a joy and I'mexcited to share some of my
stories with you.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:56):
Well, our audience is, you know, we.
We explore the humanconsciousness and we and we
attempt to expand and understandwhat that is.
Nobody really knows, but wehave people like yourself who
have unique abilities tappinginto that consciousness.
I alluded to the idea when Iread your bio and your press kit
(02:17):
that you were a child and youhad these amazing abilities to
communicate with animals or toknow things, so I can just leave
it open to that.
Tell us about those times.
And, of course, many of us whoare intuitive have had those
cringe moments where we saysomething to an adult and they
tell us that's not right, don'tdo that.
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Or maybe they even give us alittle encouragement with the
back of their head back in myday.
But anyway, tell us about thattime.
What are your memories of thosetimes as a child?
Karen Anderson (02:51):
Well, my very first memories is far back.
My very, very first experiencewas understanding our family
pets and just knowing what theyneeded or knowing what they were
telling me.
You know very simplistic topics.
You know nothing on the levelthat I would do today, of course
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, but that of a five or six yearold child.
You know what the animal likes,what they dislike, just very
simple things like that.
But I thought everybody hadthis ability because I grew up
on Disney films all the animalstalk, or they did back in the
60s.
All the animals could talk.
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So it never occurred to me as avery young child that in real
life animals wouldn't have thatability.
So it wasn't until I startedsharing information that there's
no way I could have known withmy parents that I felt immediate
shame or I was doing somethingwrong or stop it or made them
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very uncomfortable.
I just learned very quicklythat it was not okay and I
shouldn't tell them what I wasdoing.
So I just kept it a secret.
Douglas James Cottrell (04:09):
Well, I find that's amazing.
I remember what was it?
Jiminy Cricket or something.
Jimmy, you know the conscienceguy.
I remember Pinnochio.
I remember Donald Duck andPorky Pig talking Bugs Bunny.
You know, and I could just seewhen you said that, that you
were a child and you're seeingthese animals communicating and
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you are actually doing that.
As a child, you knew when theywanted something, they wanted
some water to be let out.
You just knew things.
You didn't think it that itwould be a natural connection.
That is an amazing revelation.
I would never have put thattogether, but you live that
moment.
And, of course, when you tellyour parents you know the kitty
cats snut well it's, it's gotsomething a furball or whatever
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it would be right your parentswill look at you like you know
witchcraft.
What's going on here?
You know you scared the heckout of them.
Maybe I don't know, but hi, asyou said, you went within.
Right, you learn not to tocommunicate or actually
ex-describe what was happening,but you still kept up your
communications with the animals.
Karen Anderson (05:16):
I did and because I love the animals so
much.
I wasn't so much into humanfriends, I was more into animal
friends and I was a rescuer.
I would rescue every animalthat needed help or was astray
or was hurt, and that was mylife.
So it was all about the animalsas far back as I can remember
and just being able to know whatthey needed and what they
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wanted and and keeping that fromeveryone else, just, you know,
kept it to myself and then, justlike anything else in childhood
, it just kind of went awayafter a while.
I wasn't tapping in or, youknow, paying attention.
I guess as much just growing upand life happens.
Douglas James Cottrell (05:57):
Yeah, living your life.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour background.
I find that you know people ona spiritual path have these
times in their life where wecall them difficult times, or
wake up times, if you will, andyou had a business.
Karen Anderson (06:14):
Yes, well, I used to be in the mortgage
industry and I really neverliked it very much.
It was very hard, you know, itwas feast or famine.
When things were good, it wasreally good, but when things
were bad interest rates werehigh, it was really bad, and I
felt a sense of fish out ofwater that I didn't quite belong
(06:36):
.
I was definitely not feelingthat this was my passion or what
I wanted to do.
And then I had a situationarise where my business partner
was embezzling from the companyand I found it by chance.
He was on vacation at the time,so I had to dip into the
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accounting and discovered histransactions that said one thing
in the computer but saidsomething else on the actual
checks.
Douglas James Cottrell (07:15):
Just like the rug got pulled out from
underneath you.
All that trust and it's goingwow yeah, he was a.
Karen Anderson (07:22):
He was a friend.
You know, we were, we wereclose, so this was like such a
betrayal, and it was at thatmoment where I realized that I
was getting a lot of nudges fromsome unseen force.
Douglas James Cottrell (07:44):
I call it a nudge and I put my elbow
like that.
Karen Anderson (07:49):
Karen over the head.
There were so many indicatorsfor me to stop doing that and to
to really go within and try tofigure out who I was.
I was lost.
I had no idea who I was when Iwanted it was just the grind of
corporate America and trying to,you know, get the next bonus
check or, you know, get to thenext level of success in
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business in the mortgageindustry, and it just wasn't fun
.
It was very left me very emptyand it was unfulfilling and so I
filed bankruptcy.
I was completely destroyed byhis embezzling.
I had to close down thebusiness and I found myself very
humbly with without work and Ididn't know what to do.
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I didn't know where to go.
I was so lost and I was out inmy horse corral one day up in
the Rocky Mountains of Colorado,where I lived in a little town
called Bailey, and I was muckingstalls, cleaning out the horse
stalls.
Douglas James Cottrell (08:53):
People who don't know what mucking
means.
Yes, that's, that's the wrongend of a shovel, actually and I
had this epiphany.
Karen Anderson (09:06):
I had this spiritual download, if you will,
and all of a sudden the lightbulbs just went off around me
and I suddenly realized that Iwas pretty good at scooping
things and I loved animals andhow many people didn't like to
do that.
So I decided to become thecorral gal and I put a little ad
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in the little throwaway paperand I would go around and scoop
poop for a living.
Douglas James Cottrell (09:40):
Well, I'm sure there was lots of
opportunities for business.
Karen Anderson (09:48):
Talk about humbly trying to find yourself.
It was, but you know what Iloved it.
I was back breaking, don't getme wrong back breaking, but I
absolutely loved being aroundthe animals and being outside
and being with them andcommuning with them again.
And guess what startedpercolating back up again.
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All of those abilities startedcoming back because I was no
longer focused on all the dramaof the mortgage industry.
I was now focused on theanimals and just being with them
and try and figure out what isin here and where should I go,
what should I do.
So that's where it all started.
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And then, of course, you knowhow do you get from the corral
gal to.
You know what I was doing lateron, and, being police officer,
I started volunteering for thelocal animal control facility in
Bailey, which was under theumbrella of the sheriff's
department.
Douglas James Cottrell (10:53):
I feel another cosmic nudge coming up
here.
Karen Anderson (10:57):
I had never, ever been involved with any kind
of civil service before.
I had never had anything to dowith, you know, a county type
situation like that.
But I started riding along withthe animal control officers
loved it, helping animals.
My heart just filled with joyto go rescue them out of bad
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situations or get them off theroadway, or, you know, just
being there as my job to helpthe animals volunteer job.
I was a volunteer.
And then I started riding alongwith the deputies who were also
part of, you know, the sameorganization, and I just felt a
calling.
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I felt like this is what Ineeded to do.
I wanted to give something backto my community and to the
human element and make somethingout of myself as a civil
servant.
Douglas James Cottrell (11:52):
So I did very well.
I read in your bio you took thecourse and you graduated number
one in your class or unit.
Karen Anderson (12:01):
I did pretty shocking because there were only
four women in the entire classand I was number one in upon
graduation.
Douglas James Cottrell (12:11):
The whole class.
Karen Anderson (12:12):
I know.
Douglas James Cottrell (12:12):
Crazy.
Karen Anderson (12:13):
How did.
I do that.
I even have to go back and likecheck my certificates.
Did I really do that?
I really did that.
Douglas James Cottrell (12:23):
You're really good at what you were
doing.
You had an edge, I'm sure, fromabove, but anyway,
congratulations on that.
Thank you Extremely difficultfor women and with all those big
, tough deputies or sheriffdeputies, I just admire that
Good for you.
So you're out riding around.
You're now, you know, on theregular paycheck.
(12:44):
You got a badge on.
You're wearing a gun maybe.
So tell us how you went fromthere to the next stage in your
life.
Karen Anderson (12:52):
So of course, you know every law enforcement
officer out there.
If you're very good and payingattention to your surroundings,
you become very intuitive.
They won't call it intuition,I'll call it gut feelings.
Douglas James Cottrell (13:07):
You know , I have friends who are
policemen.
They tell me how they justdrive in circles until they pick
up.
You know a gut feeling.
And then all right in front ofthem is the bad guy in the car.
They find them yeah.
I mean bureaucracy you gottasay it's intuition.
Karen Anderson (13:24):
But anyway you found it, it is, it is.
Douglas James Cottrell (13:27):
Wow, that's fantastic.
Karen Anderson (13:29):
Yep, it's intuition and they would you
know any good officer has veryhighly tuned in senses.
You have to, you have to.
Douglas James Cottrell (13:42):
It's just for political reasons, or
police senses, or whatever youand I can call them intuition or
clairvoyance, but that's besidethe point.
Right?
Clear sense, yeah, okay, goahead.
Karen Anderson (13:51):
Oh, so I'm really trying to be a very good
police officer and in doing so Iwas also practicing animal
communication on the side withmy pets at home.
So I had an interest in animalcommunication because I loved
animals.
I just wanted to understandthem on a higher level and I
felt like you know, I do this asa kid.
(14:13):
You know where did that go andit's I started remembering.
I call it a spiritual awakening, but I remembered that I could
do this and I had to get all theadult stuff out of my head
because all that programmingtells you that's crazy, you
can't do that.
You know people will thinkyou're nuts.
(14:33):
You know just all of that egostuff.
I had to get past all that,which was not easy, and retrain
my brain because I was inmortgage, which is all you know
left brain percentages, interestrates, you know amortization
charts, loan amounts, you knowdown payments it's all financial
(14:55):
stuff.
The animal communication andspiritual awakening was, you
know, I guess, a different partof your brain, or right side, I
guess they call the creativeside.
So it was all about retrainingmy brain and just being more
open to that ability that waspercolating up from childhood.
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And then craziness set in whenI started to receive messages
from animals on crime scenes.
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Whoa.
Karen Anderson (15:28):
Unprovoked, I wasn't trying, it just started
happening and that's what setsent me over the edge.
It just blew me away and Ithought whoa, if, if animals on
a crime scene can tell me wherethe who, the aggressor was, or
what actually happened, whatelse can they tell me?
(15:50):
And I was hooked and then Ijust dove in.
Douglas James Cottrell (15:54):
Let's expand on that, because I can
hear all my people listening onmy audience say how did she do
that?
Where the cricket's talking toher, was there a rabbit?
How?
But what was there?
A bird in the tree Was there.
But you're talking about theanimals in the house, perhaps
the pets, and I will go aheadexplain how did that happen.
Karen Anderson (16:12):
Okay, so the first experience I had, again
very unprovoked, and I've sharedthis story in my books as well.
I documented this because it'sit's unbelievable, even to me.
When I tell the story again, Ithink, man, that sounds really
crazy, but it's what happened.
So I was on a call, there was arollover vehicle and the
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suspect had fled on foot and itwas.
He was thought to be a foul andwith a warrant, armed and
dangerous.
Oh gosh we arrive on scene atnight, summertime, pitch black,
8000 feet in the Rocky Mountains.
There's no street lights, it'sjust whatever ambient light
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there is, and I was told by mysergeant to stay on perimeter
Perimeters where they stuck meall the time because I was new,
I was a rookie and they don'twant me to screw anything up, so
they don't want you shootinganybody, shoot any shadows.
Douglas James Cottrell (17:20):
Okay, so there you are.
You're standing there, I think.
I think I know what you'regoing to say next.
There you are.
Because you're getting yourhand.
By the way, you know.
Karen Anderson (17:28):
Oh yeah, so there I am.
Douglas James Cottrell (17:31):
I'm not caring at the very time.
Okay, what happened on?
Karen Anderson (17:33):
perimeter, sitting in my patrol car going,
okay, they, they all left.
They went to my left and to golook for a suspect, and so I'm
in this open fields, kind oflike a sitting duck in my patrol
car, and I thought, you know,this really isn't good, because
lights are on your white.
Douglas James Cottrell (17:52):
open your clothes, yeah.
Karen Anderson (17:54):
So there I am.
So I got out of the vehicle andit was again summertime, so it
was warm out.
And as I'm sitting there, I'mby myself, I'm getting more and
more nervous and I'm thinking Iam.
You know, where is this guy?
How am I going to find him?
You know what?
If he's here?
Oh my gosh, what do I do if Ifind him?
And just as I had these randomthoughts in my head, a herd of
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deer that were going throughthis field.
The deer popped up its head andmade eye contact with me and it
wasn't afraid.
It knew I wasn't going to hurtit or anything.
And this thought entered myhead of logs over by the logs.
Douglas James Cottrell (18:38):
Right over there.
Karen Anderson (18:40):
To my right and the deer were all looking to my
right, where all the policeactivity was to the left.
So here I am in the pitchblackness.
I heard this voice in my head.
It was my voice, but it wasn'tmy thought.
I wasn't thinking logs.
I was thinking oh my gosh, whatam I going to do if I find this
guy?
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That's what I was thinking.
Douglas James Cottrell (19:03):
And now you're right.
Karen Anderson (19:05):
So I sneak around, I draw my weapon and
somewhere I found thiscommanding voice to order the
suspect to come out with hishands up.
And there these two littlehands pop up.
Douglas James Cottrell (19:19):
Wow.
Karen Anderson (19:21):
So yeah.
Douglas James Cottrell (19:24):
Back in the in hand cuffs.
Now right, you got it, that wascrazy, because where did that
come from?
Karen Anderson (19:32):
I mean, I thought about it and I
questioned it so many times likehow did that happen?
How's that even possible?
But remember, I was practicinganimal communication on the side
.
Douglas James Cottrell (19:42):
Well, first of all, I think you had a
question in your mind when is he?
And the herd of deer came byand answered the question for
you through some divinecommunication.
And then your higher self wastalking to you or something, and
you went over and in acommanding voice Wow, you know,
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come on out.
Holy moly.
So I could.
From my experience, I could seeseveral different amazing
talents.
You have, first of all, thecourage for you to do that.
You know, like you're just kindof breezing by that Karen, but
that armed and dangerous suspectin the dark hiding behind logs,
and you walk up to him and saycome on out.
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So, as I said, did you puthandcuffs on a poem in the car?
Karen Anderson (20:31):
So yeah, I cuffed him.
I got him cuffed and on theground and cuffed and I radioed
to my you know the radio's righthere.
Douglas James Cottrell (20:40):
That's for what it was.
What did those colleagues,those other officers, say when
they found out Karen cuffed theguy?
You called him because of thelanguage right?
Karen Anderson (20:50):
So remember, I'm the only female officer there
you got to remember.
Douglas James Cottrell (20:54):
I hardly wait to what happened.
The voice club.
Karen Anderson (20:57):
So they, of course they come racing back
over lights and sirens andeverybody's like, you know, just
pumping.
Adrenaline is pumping and youknow I've got the situation
under control and my heart wasbeating out of my chest.
I mean you can just imagine howmuch adrenaline there is going
on.
And once he was in the patrolcar, you know everybody's pat me
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on the back.
Hey Anderson, great job.
How'd you find him?
How'd you know where he was?
Douglas James Cottrell (21:25):
You didn't dare say.
I heard a deer came by andwanted to wave that me.
No, that's right.
Yes, that's the wrong way tokeep.
Okay, so that is an amazingstory.
Not only did the deer you knowwhat would you call it bird dog,
where he was, or give you theheads up, intuitively you must
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your popularity down at theprecinct or the sheriff's office
was went through the roof thenext day.
Karen Anderson (21:52):
Oh, I kind of got off perimeter after that
call.
Douglas James Cottrell (21:58):
Well, because I have, I always wanted
to be a policeman and I havefriends and stuff.
I'm just going to back up andsay you're courage to go and do
that.
You know something was insideof you, was also motivating you,
that spirit within kind ofthing, Because maybe somebody
else would have.
When the deer said something,you might have got on the radio
and said, hey, I think he's overhere.
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But instead you just wentthrough naturally, through the
instinctively I guess I can callthat through the motions.
Your training took over.
Whatever you're intuition wasstill cooking.
I like it, the voice that camedown.
That is divine.
That's connection to the high,high dimensions or high self.
So you obviously have more thansimple communication with
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animals.
You're like tuned in and youknow you've got a.
You've got several books outthe pet I can't forget here, all
creatures.
I like the title the amazingafterlife of animals.
Let's talk a little bit aboutthat.
We're going to take a shortbreak, we'll be right back.
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Douglas James Cottrell (24:14):
So just before the break, karen, we were
talking about this amazingexperience you had where, here
you are a police officer, you'rea novice police officer, but
you're fully equipped, you'retrained and you're on perimeter.
You arrest a bad guy that'sreported to be armed and
dangerous.
You come back to the stationand everybody's patting you on
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this back and there's maledominated police station.
So I think during the break youasked what was I thinking?
So what were you thinking backthen?
How did you get from being apolice officer and expanding
into what you do now?
Karen Anderson (24:51):
You know, I think the whole part of it is I
didn't think, I didn't thinkabout it, I didn't.
I let go of the outcome and Ijust followed my heart.
I went where I was drawn orwhere I felt pulled and I
followed my passion and mypassion was leading me to where
I needed to be.
And once I let go of theoutcome, I just trusted and
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that's had like a snowballeffect in my entire life.
There were a lot of bumps alongthe way.
I mean it was not an easy path,but I've never chosen easy.
So I wasn't about to start, butit was so different than what I
had been doing but I would loveit.
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I just couldn't get enough.
And back then this was the late90s and there wasn't the
resources we have now and youknow, there was no social media,
there was nothing.
Back then I just had to go intobookstores to try to figure out
, you know, what was happeningto me and how to sharpen my
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skills.
I really had no clue what washappening.
I knew something incredible washappening to me and it
fascinated me.
So I just tried to practice asmuch as I could, understand as
much as possible, read as manybooks as I could, and that led
me to developing my animalcommunication abilities.
Douglas James Cottrell (26:21):
While you're on a spiritual path,
obviously right from when youwere a child, because you came
into the world with spiritualgifts and abilities, like all,
can I say, the spiritual peoplein books, from the Bible to the
Quran, to the Gita, to all thesebooks talk about spiritual
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experiences and always a life ofchallenge, difficulty and
service.
So you're already, you were onthe path and you were alone as a
child and you were, of coursethe dark forces were trying to
get, get you off the path ofhaving a marvelous spiritual
ability to communicate withanimals and I love this story
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about there.
You are on the job and a deersays over there behind the logs
is where the bad guy is.
You must have had otherexperiences along the way in
your career as a police officer,but if you tell us a little
more, I'm sure the audiencewould love to hear a couple more
of these amazing stories.
Not to break you up, but I justthink that's the amount of
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courage you took to do that.
You know the worst thing for apolice officer going down a dark
alley at night, knowing there'sa bad guy at the other end of
the alley and he's got a gun.
And as an officer you stillhave to go.
Most people wouldn't go downthere.
They they, not me call 911.
So that's to me we're havingthat affinity with people who
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risked their lives like that forthe public good.
Obviously in you your spiritualwellness and capabilities were
protecting you.
But where I want to go withthis is if you might have had a
few more of those experiences.
But somewhere along the line youmade the transition from being
an animal whisperer I think it'sthe term now put out there
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horse whispers, dog whisper orsomething like that.
That was before those termscome out here you were having
these communicationstelepathically or or audibly or
whatever, and tell us a littlebit how you had the.
You didn't say much to the, tothe sheriff or the deputies, I'm
sure.
But there was to say how didyou know that?
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You know and you say, well, seethat little kitty cat over
there.
He told me that the bad guy wasbehind the curtain or something
like that.
But how did you get throughyour career?
How long were you a policeofficer and how did you make the
transition to being thisamazing, a self employed person?
Author, counselor and lecturer.
Karen Anderson (28:48):
My law enforcement career was not long.
It was only about three yearstotal.
But when you work in a smalldepartment you do everything.
There's no divisions, there'sno you know, you don't hand it
off to someone else to take it.
We had this saying you youcatch them, you clean them.
You had to take it all the wayyou know, through the end, into
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court or whatever you were doingwith that particular case.
So it was a very condensedcareer and I felt that I was
being pulled toward animalcommunication.
So once again, I followed that.
I listened to that and not tomention just that.
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But also I was getting older.
I was already 36 when I enteredthe police academy.
That's kind of, you know,pushing the envelope.
Douglas James Cottrell (29:46):
Yeah, it's pretty hard running down
these climate over fences andstuff when you're like 40 years
old or something, I think we canall think of that.
Karen Anderson (29:56):
I had about 25 pounds worth of gear on me,
between the vest and all theother equipment that you have on
the belt, and I was at 8000feet in the Rocky Mountains.
The suspects are gettingyounger and I was, you know,
pushing 40.
And I thought you know this.
I got to think about where myheart is and what do I want to
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do.
If it weren't for lawenforcement, I don't know that
my abilities would haveprogressed as fast as they did,
but I started following my truepassion, which was the animals,
and that was my decision toleave law enforcement and to go
full time into animalcommunication.
And this is all I share all ofthese stories in my book.
(30:41):
So it wasn't always easy.
During that time there was alot of pushback from loved ones
and I wanted to talk about thata little bit with you, because
Else, which book were youreferring to?
The Hero creatures and theamazing afterlife of animals
have this pathway that I tookand all the pushback I got,
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especially from those theclosest to me.
They try to talk me out of itleft and right, that you know
what are you doing.
You're crazy enough to be a copand now you're going to go talk
to dead animals.
You know what the heck is thematter with you.
Douglas James Cottrell (31:20):
What about the pension and the
holidays and the security?
And you're saying this is myspiritual path.
Like all spiritual masters,spiritual people?
There comes that point Karen,myself as well where you just
have this inner knowing thatthis is what you should do.
And look at all the help you'redoing now.
Karen Anderson (31:39):
I mean I know, I know that's the, that's the
silver lining of it, so I had todisregard everybody.
Announcer (31:48):
And basic.
Karen Anderson (31:49):
Yeah, I had to just follow my heart and it was
very, very lonely journey.
There were times when I feltlike I was, you know, just on my
own, constantly sailing againstthe wind and hitting massive
waves, but I just kept going.
I don't know the driver wherethat came from, but I just was
on this course and I was goingand no one was going to stop me.
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I don't care what they said.
I've been called every name inthe book and you know to go into
the realm of intuitive work andenergy work and animal
communication.
You know you deal with a lot ofpeople that first of all, they
don't believe in it or theythink that you're just trying to
scam them.
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I came from the evidentialbackground, being a police
officer, so I became what Iturned an evidential medium,
meaning I own.
My goal was to get evidentialmessages that could only be
validated and verified by myclient, so that I could
literally prove beyond a shadowof it out that I was definitely
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communicating with their lovedone.
So that was my.
My goal and my dream was to bethe best that I could be in this
evidential mediumship.
Now it's a term, it's out there, but I was doing this so long
ago that I just I didn't want togive general information like,
oh, your dog or your cat lovesyou and they miss you, and they
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had a good life.
Douglas James Cottrell (33:15):
You're too smart for that.
I have a motto.
Basically I felt the same andcome across it.
My motto is faith is built uponbelief and belief is built upon
evidence.
And, like you, when I was doingstuff for people back in the
70s, I would, you know, say, goto the doctor and find out what
I said was true or whatever.
(33:36):
Whatever was it was, you know,look for the truth, don't
believe me, verify it.
And that is a mark of you beingin harmony with your high self.
You were looking for theevidence so that in your mind
and your good heart and yourconsciousness there was no doubt
, there was no like flowery, youknow, like making stuff.
(33:56):
You know this was it.
This is the facts.
And you had the evidence againbecause you're, you know your,
your background, as a policeofficer, perhaps, or as also
going back to your accountingdays, well, you know being,
let's find out those things.
Your path was sort of guidedfrom above and I'm not trying to
tell your story here.
I'm suggesting that you and Iand everybody else who's
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intuitive has had similar things.
For the people who don't know,they're in the darkness.
But that challenge that you metand you didn't stop.
I compliment you again, becausewith the same courage you
persevered.
The Good Book says a prophet isnever honored in their own land
, nor are they honored by theirown family, and that's a test to
(34:38):
be a prophet.
So you're on the way of being aprophet, you know.
Karen Anderson (34:43):
There's kind of goosebumps on that one.
Douglas James Cottrell (34:45):
Yeah, well, that's me working on being
clairvoyant now, or I'm beingintuitive is a better, easier
word to say it, so you've gotthis word.
I love that term Evidential.
You know what?
Did you call it?
Communication or reading, sowhat's?
Karen Anderson (35:00):
your evidential mediumship.
Douglas James Cottrell (35:02):
I would drop the mediumship because
you're more clairvoyant.
Okay, there's not somebodybetween you and the animals,
they're coming.
That's more clairvoyant, that'sa higher level of communication
.
If I might give you or offerthat to you, oh sure.
We'll be right back after this.
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Douglas James Cottrell (36:33):
Today's guest is Karen Anderson.
Tell us a little bit at thispoint.
How can people get a hold ofyou right now?
Karen Anderson (36:41):
Right now, the easiest way to get me is through
my website, which is simply myname, karenandersonnet.
Although I am no longerconducting private consultations
.
I retired from that severalyears ago to focus on coaching,
animal communication and writing.
I have several hand selectedvery gifted animal communicators
(37:06):
that I refer all of my clientsto, so you can reach out to me
for recommendations on a session, and I don't have a podcast,
but it's so funny that you havementioned that because I've been
kicking that around in my headfor a while now, so I'm getting
(37:26):
messages from above that maybethat's in the future.
Douglas James Cottrell (37:31):
Some people like me who live in the
future all the time, every daymaybe just kind of like seeing
things for you out there as well, so people can go to
KarenAnderson.
Would you spell Anderson forpeople, just to make surenet
KarenAnderson Right.
Karen Anderson (37:47):
It's A-N-D-E-R-S-O-Nnet, and, of
course, all of my books are onAmazon worldwide.
Two of them are on Audible, andthe pet I can't forget, which
is my latest release, is.
I'm very proud of this book.
It's a compilation of so manyheartwarming and insightful
(38:11):
stories.
If you have recently lost a pet, or if you have an elderly pet
that is maybe in its goldenyears, this book will help you
understand how to find moresigns, to receive more signs,
raise your vibration to be opento receiving signs, how signs
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are sent from the afterlife.
It's all about signs and thatour loved ones never leave us.
They're always with us,especially during our darkest
times, and our pets love us morethan anything, and that love
has to be somewhere.
It doesn't just end when thephysical body ends.
So that book the pet I can'tforget is all about these
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incredible and amazing stories.
Plus, there are afterlifesessions that I conducted where
you can actually hear some ofthe life-changing messages I
received during actual afterlifecommunication.
Douglas James Cottrell (39:11):
How about you give us one of those
stories right now, just to leteverybody know?
Karen Anderson (39:15):
Yes, and I do want to share one very powerful
story for you.
This is in my book the AmazingAfterlife of Animals.
I just want to share it becauseit truly shows how much our
animals love us, to the point ofmore so than they care about
themselves at a certain degree.
So all my sessions were doneover the phone.
(39:38):
We didn't have Zoom back then.
I was always on the phone andmy client had called in and she
was very distraught because shehad recently lost her beloved
cat.
Now, this cat she had found as astray.
It came into her life when shewas really sad and lonely and
they became very, very closecompanions.
(40:00):
It was kind of an outdoorindoor cat and one day she was
on her way to work.
She was in a hurry, she waslate for a meeting, so she
backed out of the garage and sheinadvertently hit the cat.
Now, the cat survived so,however, later it succumbed to
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its injuries from that incident.
So of course she was riddledwith guilt and overwhelmed by
grief and feeling responsiblethat she had killed her cat and
she contacted me for anafterlife communication.
So I opened up the session withthe cat.
I only used a photo that was myconnection.
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That's like having their cellphone number.
I dial them up, I dial up theirenergy through their photo and
it's a process.
It's just kind of I like seeingtheir faces.
It lets me focus on them more.
It lets me focus on theirenergy if I can see a picture of
them.
So the cat came through veryupbeat and happy and balanced
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and beautiful and so much lovefor his mom, and I'm sharing all
this information.
I call you moms and dads, notowners, Because if anyone owns
anyone, they own our hearts.
So I call you moms and dads.
Douglas James Cottrell (41:22):
I love it.
That's great.
Karen Anderson (41:25):
And we were sharing beautiful messages back
and forth, but during thesession, this cat kept showing
me.
Now, remember, all I had wasthe cat's name, age, and I knew
that it had recently passed.
I didn't know anything else.
This cat kept showing me and,not to be graphic, but it kept
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showing me an amputated leg.
It wasn't gross or icky oranything like that, but don't
forget, I was a cop.
I've seen a lot of crazy stuff.
So I kept seeing this amputatedleg, but it was a human leg and
I thought, well, the cat mustjust be showing me that it got
this injury.
And I didn't want to sayanything because she was already
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so upset.
I didn't want to talk about thecat's injury.
I didn't tell her anything.
Two more times this cat flashedthat image at me.
Like Karen, I'm sending youthis for a reason.
So I have a rule, Douglas.
Douglas James Cottrell (42:25):
Three times Three times Okay.
Karen Anderson (42:30):
So I finally said very delicately, I said I'm
so sorry, I don't mean to causeyou any upset, but did your cat
lose a leg?
Was a leg amputated because ofthis accident?
Total silence.
And then she started sobbing, Imean like gasping sobbing, and
(42:57):
I thought, oh my gosh, I'vereally done it.
I shouldn't have said anything.
Why did I do that?
Douglas James Cottrell (43:04):
However.
Karen Anderson (43:06):
She could finally catch her breath.
All she could say was thank youso much, thank you so much, I
needed this, thank you so much.
And I thought what?
How would you want to hear that?
She says no, no.
I said I'm so sorry, I didn'tmean to upset you.
She goes no, no, no, karen, Ineed this is what I needed to
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hear.
And I said well, did your catlose a limb?
And she says no.
Three months after the catpassed away, she was in a
horrible car accident and shehad her leg amputated and during
the recovery phase in thehospital bed she felt the cat
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laying next to her phantom leg.
Douglas James Cottrell (43:55):
Wow, fantastic.
Now I've had similarexperiences and I'm sorry I got
ahead of you a little bit bysaying you know three times, but
I had a very similar experienceand this is all about you, not
me.
But I likewise saw a man whohad no legs and I was giving
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some information about this manand I was saying, well, he's got
no legs to stand on, maybefeeling a little nervous, you
know, I was making stuff up andthe lady turned out to be quite
intuitive herself and she wavedher finger at me.
She says Douglas, you're nottelling me everything.
You see, this man has no legs,he was in a train accident and
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that was my lesson, and so youhad this lesson and I've learned
.
I'll pass this on to you, karen, it's because I like you so
much.
When I get in situations likethat, I say no, I'm going to
tell you.
I could be right, it could bewrong, but I'm gonna tell you
what I see yeah and I once had abusiness man and I said
(45:02):
something to him and I said Ihave no ideas what this means.
And he says I know exactly whatthat means.
Just like that he says thankyou.
And that was it.
15 minutes into theconsultation he had his answer
and gone.
So I'm passing it back on toyou as being along.
That way of becoming a prophetis that if you see strange
things and you will in order to,in order to feel comfortable
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about it, you said could beright, it could be wrong.
I teach this to students aswell.
And then I say I have no ideawhat it means, but this is what
I see.
You made that lady's heart jumpbecause she knew exactly that
you were tuning into that animaland everything you were saying
was the gospel.
I applaud you and you did have,sooner or later, you know you
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kind of after the third littlenudge you did, you did say it,
you didn't hold it, you didn'tlet it go back or go by.
Karen Anderson (45:55):
I still to this day get that same feeling that I
got when I delivered thatmessage, because I could feel
her move from that deep place ofdarkness to where she was
really understanding that hercat was there with her in spirit
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and she wasn't alone and he wasthere by her side during her
recovery and that it was moreconcerned about her than it was
about what she had done to him.
Because, remember, the wholething was she felt guilty for
causing his death.
That never came up.
He never mentioned it.
All he talked about was hisconcern for her.
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It's a beautiful story and it'spowerful because the things that
keep us up at night of thingswe could have done or should
have done for our pets or whydidn't I take them in sooner, or
why didn't I give them thatmedicine, or why didn't I take
them to specialist, or I waitedtoo long, or I waited, didn't
wait long enough it's never anissue with our animals.
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Those are human thoughts.
Those are not in our companionsminds.
It doesn't serve them, so itdoesn't even come up.
They are so much better at thisthan we are.
As far as what really matters,you know we stressed about
things that don't matter and theanimals bring us right back
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down to what's so important, andit sounds so cliche and corny,
but it's the love that youshared with them.
That's what's important, that'swhat they always come back to
and that's what matters.
So you could have had somethingto do with their final moments,
unintentionally, and they don'tever see it that way.
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They don't judge us judging asa human trait, not an animal
trait.
They don't blame us.
Blame as a human trait, not ananimal trait.
We don't have to ask theirforgiveness.
You ask an animal what isforgiveness and they'll kind of
look at you like I forgive this.
Douglas James Cottrell (48:10):
That's a human thing now again, because
you talk to the animals.
You're telling us what theythink or feel or what their
thoughts are.
So it's not like intellectualconjection here.
You're telling us the animalsis what they say, like what are
you talking about?
Forgiveness, that was yesterday, wasn't it?
(48:31):
Hey, what's in my bowl today?
You know I'm stiffening thedoor.
What's out there?
I want to go out today.
Never mind, it was pouring rainand snowing yesterday.
Looks kind of neat out theretoday.
So you're telling us this fromthe from the animals perspective
.
So people should pay attentionnow.
Do they come back in otherlives?
I'm asking a rhetoricalquestion do they come back in?
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Do they re incarnate back in inour lives?
Karen Anderson (48:56):
some do, some don't, and it's it's really hard
to prove and, of course, mebeing evidential, I always look
for the proof.
So the proof comes through yourheart and how you feel the
connection with that animalreturning, you'll know, there
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will be no doubt in your mind.
You'll have a sense of feeling,a download or an impression.
You will know when yourcompanion comes back to you,
because it will be an undeniablething that only you can prove.
You know I might be able tovalidate a few things, like you
know they're showing me this orthey're saying that they used to
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do this or whatever they wantto tell me.
But only you know what's inyour heart and what you're
feeling.
And if that is the soul beingrecognized by your higher self,
your souls will recognize eachother, even if the exterior is
different makes sense.
Douglas James Cottrell (49:57):
I'm thinking of some stories clients
would tell me.
A lady had a cat.
The cat was climbing up thecurtains all the time, across
the curtain, ride up on thebookshelf.
And the lady said to me youknow, if I didn't know better
I'd swear that cat was a monkey.
And I said monkey.
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I wonder if he was a monkey inhis past life.
On another occasion somebodywas talking about a dog and he
said oh, he looks like a bear.
He walks like a bear.
Look at him.
You know he's a large.
It doesn't look like a bear.
And everybody's going yeah, helooks like a bear.
Well, maybe in another life hewas a bear.
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And people are seeing this.
They're intuitively looking atthis or getting the impressions,
but they they haven't put ittogether that what they're
really seeing is the energy froma previous time.
So animals can come back fromtheir own incarnations, I guess,
and be a monkey one time and acat the next, or be an elephant
one time and a mouse the next.
(51:02):
I don't know.
You know the idea that peoplecome back in your life and some
do and some don't.
I guess the some that the onesthat don't move on, they are.
They have other things to do.
I have sort of an understandingof a consciousness in the
animal kingdom.
What do you think about that?
Karen Anderson (51:17):
yeah, I truly believe that and my belief is,
douglas, if it's in the highestand best for that particular
soul's growth to reincarnate, asyou know, come back again as a
cat, a dog or whatever they wantto come back as that, that is
possible.
I don't think there's a rulebook.
I don't think there's someonestanding there with a checklist
(51:38):
and saying up your dog, you canonly come back as a dog, or
you're a cat or you know, youcan only be a cat, you're human,
you can only be a human.
I think it's you know, way morein depth than that.
And if it's in the highest andbest for your soul's progression
in the spiritual sense toexpand and evolve and have those
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experiences, who's to say youcan't come back as something
else or a different species?
I'm certainly not going to putmy name down on something that
says that can never happen, noway, no way.
I never say never and I and Inever say always, because there
there's, you can't lock yourselfin like that.
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You just there's so much outthere we don't even know.
You know I've only scratchedthe tip of the iceberg with my
experiences and I've been doingthis for 26 years and I still
feel like I have so much more tolearn and there's so much
wisdom that the animals canshare with us, mostly about how
to be a better human.
I love that the animals teachus how to be how to be better
(52:42):
humans.
You know they, they have taughtme so much about life in the
afterlife there's there's somore accepting of their eventual
passing out of physical forminto spirit form than we are.
They have this sense or knowingthat the soul continues, that
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most humans fear, and animalsseem to be very accepting of
this.
Now don't get me wrong.
I've never met an animal thathas wanted to die.
And you know there's a verystrong will to survive.
And those of us that have hadanimals that we've cared for
you'll know that they'll kind offight to the last breath.
(53:26):
They'll do everything that theycan.
But that's mother nature,instinct, evolution, that's all
those things rolled into one.
But they truly have anacceptance of their progression
as a physical and spiritualbeing that I think we have a lot
to learn from them.
Douglas James Cottrell (53:46):
I know there's therapy pets or pets
that we can do that too.
There are people who love theiranimals more than themselves.
There's this throughout history.
Animals have always been, youknow, associated with the clan,
the tribe in the cave, you know,around the campfire back in the
(54:07):
days.
Animals have always had thisspecial relationship with us.
No matter what some people likereptiles and some people like
birds, and it's a preference forthe person Animals always had
this integral relationship withus.
Give us another story.
We have about another 10minutes or so left.
Tell us another wonderful storythat you were going to mention
earlier about pets and how theycan help us along the way.
Karen Anderson (54:31):
Oh well, absolutely so.
You know, one of the thingsthat happens to us when we lose
a beloved companion is and thishas happened to me, I speak from
experiences you know, grief canoverwhelm us and it can
stagnate us and keep us in avery dark place, if we allow it.
(54:52):
These are choices we have tomake.
You know, grief is an action,it's movement.
We're not meant to stay there.
It's a temporary place and ouranimals can show us that.
You know, it's part of lovingsomeone and having to say
goodbye it's part of our journey.
(55:13):
But we're not supposed to staythere indefinitely.
We're supposed to experiencethat because loss is part of
your journey with your companionand it's supposed to hurt.
You love something that deeplyyes, it's going to hurt when
they're no longer physicallythere with you.
Douglas James Cottrell (55:35):
But they do come back, right, I mean
they do.
I'm coming back on that lady inthe hospital and she could feel
them on the bed.
I've had other people talk tome.
They could feel like they'rekitty cat walking across their
bed.
Karen Anderson (55:47):
Yes, yes, and my new book, the Pet I Can't
Forget, is full of stories aboutpeople having experiences just
like that.
Some have found, you know, veryunusual objects placed in, like
right in their pathway or rightwhere they were going to step
or right where they were goingto walk.
There's one story in the bookwhere the mom, the cat's mom was
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just picking up the crematedremains and very distraught and
was asking for some kind of sign, or just let me know that
you're okay.
She walks out to her car andthere's a giant feather, like
six inch long feather, plasteredto the side of her tire, not
(56:34):
where she drove over it, but onthe side a six inch long feather
.
It's like how did that getthere?
Incredible signs, you know.
Finding a lot of the storieswill share what I call sky signs
, where you will ask for a signand you look up and you see a
(56:56):
rainbow, or you see a cloudformation in the shape of your
beloved companion, or maybe yousee a lot of bird messengers.
Birds are messengers of spirit.
They love to come in and letyou know that your loved one is
near.
So many people have experiencedthat, along with dream
(57:16):
visitations, where you have thisincredibly realistic dream
where you wake up expecting tosee your companion right there,
because you felt them.
You could feel their fur orfeathers or whoever you had,
whoever your loved one was, andit was so real.
That's because it is real.
It's a real visitation andthat's one of the most common
(57:40):
ways that they come to us,because our minds are in a
relaxed state and we're moreopen to receiving that
visitation than when we're inour cluttery, busy, noisy,
conscious, alert state.
I have a lot of people write tome saying I haven't received a
(58:02):
sign.
I'm heartbroken.
Why haven't I gotten a sign?
And I write about this too thatsome animals don't necessarily
feel the need to send a sign,especially the ones that are
around us the most.
You're with us 24, seven, orthey're about there's no clocks
(58:23):
in the afterlife but On theother side that's right, they
don't feel the need to gather upa bunch of energy to send a
sign, because they're around youall the time and you become
desensitized to their presence.
Because it merges with yoursand it's so familiar, you just
don't pick up on it, you don'tsense it, you don't feel it.
Douglas James Cottrell (58:46):
What do you think of this idea?
You lose a pet, you grieve,time goes by, you're never going
to have another dog or cat likepuppy.
And then all of a sudden youhave a dream and there's puppy,
but now a younger, whateverpuppy.
And then let's say, your dogwas white and now this is a
(59:08):
black dog in your dream and itlooks just like your puppy dog,
same thing, whatever.
Looking at you.
No, I could look at you.
And then somewhere somebodycomes up and says look at this
wonderful puppy.
He's looking for a home.
And you look at it.
That's the one in my dream.
Karen Anderson (59:25):
Oh yes.
Douglas James Cottrell (59:26):
You think that's a little sign from
the first one to say I'm comingback.
Karen Anderson (59:32):
Oh yes, they will often do that.
They'll send so many new intoyour life and my best
recommendation is pay attentionto what's happening around you,
because there are signs.
Grieve can be like a heavyblanket so you can miss them.
If you are deeply grieving andI'm one of the worst when I'm
grieving I go down the rabbithole and it's like leave me
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alone.
I just want to be in thislittle rabbit hole and don't
talk to me, don't look at me.
I just want to be in pain,leave me alone.
But if you start payingattention to all the signs and
start connecting the dots to allthe unusual things that are
happening around you, theselittle we call them coincidences
they're not.
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This is synchronicity is going.
Hey, pay attention, I'm withyou, I'm around you.
It could be a song, it could bea billboard, it could be the
license plate in front of you,it could be something written on
someone's shirt.
I mean, there's so many waysthat our loved ones send these
spirit messages and if you justpay attention and if you don't
discount them, then you willopen a door to receive more
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messages.
And this is what's so important.
Even if you think you're notreceiving them, I'll bet you
anything.
You are, I'll bet you anything.
You're getting messages, butfor whatever reason, the grief
or the sadness or whatever it'sblocking you.
But I guarantee you there aresigns and messages there, even
this one.
If you have a suddenoverwhelming surge of emotion
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thinking about your companion,you may think that's you just
missing your companion.
It's not.
What happens is you're thinkingabout your companion.
It draws them in like a moth tothe flame.
Your higher self, your soul,recognizes their presence and
there's this total, overwhelmingrush of emotions,
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uncontrollable emotions.
That you think is just youthinking about them.
It's not.
It's your souls recognizingeach other, going hey, I'm here,
yeah, I know you're here, Ijust felt you.
And then that upwelling ofemotions that will strike you at
the strangest time, likedriving down the road or in the
grocery store or when you leastexpect it.
Boom, that's a sign.
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That's your body having aphysical reaction to the
presence of your loved one.
So I guarantee you you'regetting signs and messages.
You just don't realize it oryou want to discount it because
it hurts too much.
That's another thing.
We put up protective shields tostop ourselves from feeling
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more pain because it hurts.
It's horrible.
So I'm almost I can't sayalways, but almost all the time
they do send us signs.
We just have to know what tolook for and thank them.
Be sure you say thank you, Igot that, thank you, I felt that
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, thank you, I saw that andasked for more.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:02:35):
Well said, well said.
I know people in my world havehad similar experiences with
their pets and they say I alwaysknow when puppies around I he
had a peculiar smell about himor I could hear a little bell
tingle that was the bell theyhad on their collar and they
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have these signs.
So well said.
They keep people abreast ofthat.
The animals they drop in on youand again, when you're shopping
or driving a car you're in kindof like a meditative state,
you're not in your thinkingstate, unless you're angry, of
course and so they're droppingin.
So that's well said.
I mean, they love us.
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They do come back.
I've had my own dreams aboutanimals that we're going to come
.
We're going to come in my lifeand it's happened.
But before we end the show, Isee that you have a non-profit
sanctuary.
Can you tell us a little bitabout that?
Karen Anderson (01:03:31):
I would love to.
So.
Going back to childhood now.
I rescued animals my whole lifeand it was always a dream of
mine to have an animal sanctuary, and I made that dream happen,
and I am the CEO and founder ofPainted Rain Ranch Animal
Sanctuary.
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We are a non-profit charitableorganization and what we do is
we rescue the pets nobody elsewants, the ones that are
overlooked at the sheltersbecause of their age or their
health issues, maybe theirspecial needs, maybe they've
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just been abandoned, strayed,and you know many are overlooked
because they might have amissing limb or they might be
blind, or they might have to bediabetic or whatever.
I bring them here to our ranch.
I live in eastern Washington on30 acres.
It's beautiful, green trees allaround, rolling hills, open
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fields and pastures, and theylive out the rest of their
natural life here on the ranchwith my husband and I, and we
are passionate about givingthese animals a second chance in
a forever loving home.
They'll never be adopted out.
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They stay here.
This is their home, they'repart of the family and they live
a very happy and spoiled lifehere with us, and all the
proceeds from my books and myonline beginners course for
animal communication theproceeds go to the non-profit.
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So I have completely devotedmyself and my life and my work
to help the animals in need.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:05:32):
Today's guest was Karen Anderson.
Go to her website and you'llfind several books that you can
purchase somewhere on Amazon.
You can donate or you can findout more about the painted rain
ranch animal sanctuary.
Karen Anderson (01:05:49):
Karen Anderson done that.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:05:50):
It's been amazing to have you on the
show today, karen.
You've had an amazing career.
You are a courageous woman.
You are a saint in the making.
Let me put it that this comesto my mind as I say that.
So thank you very much forbeing on the show.
Karen Anderson (01:06:06):
Thank you so much.
I appreciate this opportunityto share so much.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:06:10):
You're very welcome.
You've been listening to theDouglas James Cottrell show.
We'll be back next week withmore light and we will encourage
you.
Remember the journey is justbeginning.
I'm your host, dr Douglas JamesCottrell.
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Douglas James Cottrell (00:42):
Welcome everyone.
Today I have an amazing guestwho is going to talk about her
very unusual gift but veryimportant to all of us, all of
us who love pets.
I'm a dog person myself.
I know many of us are catpeople and I've also had horses,
and I lived in the country fora little bit back in the day
(01:03):
when I moved out of this city,and there's an amazing synergy
we have with animals, andtoday's guest, Karen Anderson,
is going to tell us all abouther amazing discovery of this
really unique and wonderfulability to be able to
communicate with animals andhave them communicate with us
(01:25):
and much, much more.
Karen's background is like allof us started off humbly.
She when was a young person.
She had some experiences.
She grew up and became a policeofficer number one in her class
, she had her own business andshe's written several books, and
I'm going to talk a little bitabout that.
But first, welcome to the show,karen.
(01:46):
It's great to have you heretoday.
Thank you for being our guest.
Karen Anderson (01:49):
And thank you so much, Douglas.
This is just such a joy and I'mexcited to share some of my
stories with you.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:56):
Well, our audience is, you know, we.
We explore the humanconsciousness and we and we
attempt to expand and understandwhat that is.
Nobody really knows, but wehave people like yourself who
have unique abilities tappinginto that consciousness.
I alluded to the idea when Iread your bio and your press kit
(02:17):
that you were a child and youhad these amazing abilities to
communicate with animals or toknow things, so I can just leave
it open to that.
Tell us about those times.
And, of course, many of us whoare intuitive have had those
cringe moments where we saysomething to an adult and they
tell us that's not right, don'tdo that.
(02:39):
Or maybe they even give us alittle encouragement with the
back of their head back in myday.
But anyway, tell us about thattime.
What are your memories of thosetimes as a child?
Karen Anderson (02:51):
Well, my very first memories is far back.
My very, very first experiencewas understanding our family
pets and just knowing what theyneeded or knowing what they were
telling me.
You know very simplistic topics.
You know nothing on the levelthat I would do today, of course
(03:11):
, but that of a five or six yearold child.
You know what the animal likes,what they dislike, just very
simple things like that.
But I thought everybody hadthis ability because I grew up
on Disney films all the animalstalk, or they did back in the
60s.
All the animals could talk.
(03:33):
So it never occurred to me as avery young child that in real
life animals wouldn't have thatability.
So it wasn't until I startedsharing information that there's
no way I could have known withmy parents that I felt immediate
shame or I was doing somethingwrong or stop it or made them
(03:59):
very uncomfortable.
I just learned very quicklythat it was not okay and I
shouldn't tell them what I wasdoing.
So I just kept it a secret.
Douglas James Cottrell (04:09):
Well, I find that's amazing.
I remember what was it?
Jiminy Cricket or something.
Jimmy, you know the conscienceguy.
I remember Pinnochio.
I remember Donald Duck andPorky Pig talking Bugs Bunny.
You know, and I could just seewhen you said that, that you
were a child and you're seeingthese animals communicating and
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you are actually doing that.
As a child, you knew when theywanted something, they wanted
some water to be let out.
You just knew things.
You didn't think it that itwould be a natural connection.
That is an amazing revelation.
I would never have put thattogether, but you live that
moment.
And, of course, when you tellyour parents you know the kitty
cats snut well it's, it's gotsomething a furball or whatever
(04:54):
it would be right your parentswill look at you like you know
witchcraft.
What's going on here?
You know you scared the heckout of them.
Maybe I don't know, but hi, asyou said, you went within.
Right, you learn not to tocommunicate or actually
ex-describe what was happening,but you still kept up your
communications with the animals.
Karen Anderson (05:16):
I did and because I love the animals so
much.
I wasn't so much into humanfriends, I was more into animal
friends and I was a rescuer.
I would rescue every animalthat needed help or was astray
or was hurt, and that was mylife.
So it was all about the animalsas far back as I can remember
and just being able to know whatthey needed and what they
(05:38):
wanted and and keeping that fromeveryone else, just, you know,
kept it to myself and then, justlike anything else in childhood
, it just kind of went awayafter a while.
I wasn't tapping in or, youknow, paying attention.
I guess as much just growing upand life happens.
Douglas James Cottrell (05:57):
Yeah, living your life.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour background.
I find that you know people ona spiritual path have these
times in their life where wecall them difficult times, or
wake up times, if you will, andyou had a business.
Karen Anderson (06:14):
Yes, well, I used to be in the mortgage
industry and I really neverliked it very much.
It was very hard, you know, itwas feast or famine.
When things were good, it wasreally good, but when things
were bad interest rates werehigh, it was really bad, and I
felt a sense of fish out ofwater that I didn't quite belong
(06:36):
.
I was definitely not feelingthat this was my passion or what
I wanted to do.
And then I had a situationarise where my business partner
was embezzling from the companyand I found it by chance.
He was on vacation at the time,so I had to dip into the
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accounting and discovered histransactions that said one thing
in the computer but saidsomething else on the actual
checks.
Douglas James Cottrell (07:15):
Just like the rug got pulled out from
underneath you.
All that trust and it's goingwow yeah, he was a.
Karen Anderson (07:22):
He was a friend.
You know, we were, we wereclose, so this was like such a
betrayal, and it was at thatmoment where I realized that I
was getting a lot of nudges fromsome unseen force.
Douglas James Cottrell (07:44):
I call it a nudge and I put my elbow
like that.
Karen Anderson (07:49):
Karen over the head.
There were so many indicatorsfor me to stop doing that and to
to really go within and try tofigure out who I was.
I was lost.
I had no idea who I was when Iwanted it was just the grind of
corporate America and trying to,you know, get the next bonus
check or, you know, get to thenext level of success in
(08:10):
business in the mortgageindustry, and it just wasn't fun
.
It was very left me very emptyand it was unfulfilling and so I
filed bankruptcy.
I was completely destroyed byhis embezzling.
I had to close down thebusiness and I found myself very
humbly with without work and Ididn't know what to do.
(08:34):
I didn't know where to go.
I was so lost and I was out inmy horse corral one day up in
the Rocky Mountains of Colorado,where I lived in a little town
called Bailey, and I was muckingstalls, cleaning out the horse
stalls.
Douglas James Cottrell (08:53):
People who don't know what mucking
means.
Yes, that's, that's the wrongend of a shovel, actually and I
had this epiphany.
Karen Anderson (09:06):
I had this spiritual download, if you will,
and all of a sudden the lightbulbs just went off around me
and I suddenly realized that Iwas pretty good at scooping
things and I loved animals andhow many people didn't like to
do that.
So I decided to become thecorral gal and I put a little ad
(09:33):
in the little throwaway paperand I would go around and scoop
poop for a living.
Douglas James Cottrell (09:40):
Well, I'm sure there was lots of
opportunities for business.
Karen Anderson (09:48):
Talk about humbly trying to find yourself.
It was, but you know what Iloved it.
I was back breaking, don't getme wrong back breaking, but I
absolutely loved being aroundthe animals and being outside
and being with them andcommuning with them again.
And guess what startedpercolating back up again.
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All of those abilities startedcoming back because I was no
longer focused on all the dramaof the mortgage industry.
I was now focused on theanimals and just being with them
and try and figure out what isin here and where should I go,
what should I do.
So that's where it all started.
(10:32):
And then, of course, you knowhow do you get from the corral
gal to.
You know what I was doing lateron, and, being police officer,
I started volunteering for thelocal animal control facility in
Bailey, which was under theumbrella of the sheriff's
department.
Douglas James Cottrell (10:53):
I feel another cosmic nudge coming up
here.
Karen Anderson (10:57):
I had never, ever been involved with any kind
of civil service before.
I had never had anything to dowith, you know, a county type
situation like that.
But I started riding along withthe animal control officers
loved it, helping animals.
My heart just filled with joyto go rescue them out of bad
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situations or get them off theroadway, or, you know, just
being there as my job to helpthe animals volunteer job.
I was a volunteer.
And then I started riding alongwith the deputies who were also
part of, you know, the sameorganization, and I just felt a
calling.
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I felt like this is what Ineeded to do.
I wanted to give something backto my community and to the
human element and make somethingout of myself as a civil
servant.
Douglas James Cottrell (11:52):
So I did very well.
I read in your bio you took thecourse and you graduated number
one in your class or unit.
Karen Anderson (12:01):
I did pretty shocking because there were only
four women in the entire classand I was number one in upon
graduation.
Douglas James Cottrell (12:11):
The whole class.
Karen Anderson (12:12):
I know.
Douglas James Cottrell (12:12):
Crazy.
Karen Anderson (12:13):
How did.
I do that.
I even have to go back and likecheck my certificates.
Did I really do that?
I really did that.
Douglas James Cottrell (12:23):
You're really good at what you were
doing.
You had an edge, I'm sure, fromabove, but anyway,
congratulations on that.
Thank you Extremely difficultfor women and with all those big
, tough deputies or sheriffdeputies, I just admire that
Good for you.
So you're out riding around.
You're now, you know, on theregular paycheck.
(12:44):
You got a badge on.
You're wearing a gun maybe.
So tell us how you went fromthere to the next stage in your
life.
Karen Anderson (12:52):
So of course, you know every law enforcement
officer out there.
If you're very good and payingattention to your surroundings,
you become very intuitive.
They won't call it intuition,I'll call it gut feelings.
Douglas James Cottrell (13:07):
You know , I have friends who are
policemen.
They tell me how they justdrive in circles until they pick
up.
You know a gut feeling.
And then all right in front ofthem is the bad guy in the car.
They find them yeah.
I mean bureaucracy you gottasay it's intuition.
Karen Anderson (13:24):
But anyway you found it, it is, it is.
Douglas James Cottrell (13:27):
Wow, that's fantastic.
Karen Anderson (13:29):
Yep, it's intuition and they would you
know any good officer has veryhighly tuned in senses.
You have to, you have to.
Douglas James Cottrell (13:42):
It's just for political reasons, or
police senses, or whatever youand I can call them intuition or
clairvoyance, but that's besidethe point.
Right?
Clear sense, yeah, okay, goahead.
Karen Anderson (13:51):
Oh, so I'm really trying to be a very good
police officer and in doing so Iwas also practicing animal
communication on the side withmy pets at home.
So I had an interest in animalcommunication because I loved
animals.
I just wanted to understandthem on a higher level and I
felt like you know, I do this asa kid.
(14:13):
You know where did that go andit's I started remembering.
I call it a spiritual awakening, but I remembered that I could
do this and I had to get all theadult stuff out of my head
because all that programmingtells you that's crazy, you
can't do that.
You know people will thinkyou're nuts.
(14:33):
You know just all of that egostuff.
I had to get past all that,which was not easy, and retrain
my brain because I was inmortgage, which is all you know
left brain percentages, interestrates, you know amortization
charts, loan amounts, you knowdown payments it's all financial
(14:55):
stuff.
The animal communication andspiritual awakening was, you
know, I guess, a different partof your brain, or right side, I
guess they call the creativeside.
So it was all about retrainingmy brain and just being more
open to that ability that waspercolating up from childhood.
(15:17):
And then craziness set in whenI started to receive messages
from animals on crime scenes.
Ad (15:27):
Whoa.
Karen Anderson (15:28):
Unprovoked, I wasn't trying, it just started
happening and that's what setsent me over the edge.
It just blew me away and Ithought whoa, if, if animals on
a crime scene can tell me wherethe who, the aggressor was, or
what actually happened, whatelse can they tell me?
(15:50):
And I was hooked and then Ijust dove in.
Douglas James Cottrell (15:54):
Let's expand on that, because I can
hear all my people listening onmy audience say how did she do
that?
Where the cricket's talking toher, was there a rabbit?
How?
But what was there?
A bird in the tree Was there.
But you're talking about theanimals in the house, perhaps
the pets, and I will go aheadexplain how did that happen.
Karen Anderson (16:12):
Okay, so the first experience I had, again
very unprovoked, and I've sharedthis story in my books as well.
I documented this because it'sit's unbelievable, even to me.
When I tell the story again, Ithink, man, that sounds really
crazy, but it's what happened.
So I was on a call, there was arollover vehicle and the
(16:39):
suspect had fled on foot and itwas.
He was thought to be a foul andwith a warrant, armed and
dangerous.
Oh gosh we arrive on scene atnight, summertime, pitch black,
8000 feet in the Rocky Mountains.
There's no street lights, it'sjust whatever ambient light
(16:59):
there is, and I was told by mysergeant to stay on perimeter
Perimeters where they stuck meall the time because I was new,
I was a rookie and they don'twant me to screw anything up, so
they don't want you shootinganybody, shoot any shadows.
Douglas James Cottrell (17:20):
Okay, so there you are.
You're standing there, I think.
I think I know what you'regoing to say next.
There you are.
Because you're getting yourhand.
By the way, you know.
Karen Anderson (17:28):
Oh yeah, so there I am.
Douglas James Cottrell (17:31):
I'm not caring at the very time.
Okay, what happened on?
Karen Anderson (17:33):
perimeter, sitting in my patrol car going,
okay, they, they all left.
They went to my left and to golook for a suspect, and so I'm
in this open fields, kind oflike a sitting duck in my patrol
car, and I thought, you know,this really isn't good, because
lights are on your white.
Douglas James Cottrell (17:52):
open your clothes, yeah.
Karen Anderson (17:54):
So there I am.
So I got out of the vehicle andit was again summertime, so it
was warm out.
And as I'm sitting there, I'mby myself, I'm getting more and
more nervous and I'm thinking Iam.
You know, where is this guy?
How am I going to find him?
You know what?
If he's here?
Oh my gosh, what do I do if Ifind him?
And just as I had these randomthoughts in my head, a herd of
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deer that were going throughthis field.
The deer popped up its head andmade eye contact with me and it
wasn't afraid.
It knew I wasn't going to hurtit or anything.
And this thought entered myhead of logs over by the logs.
Douglas James Cottrell (18:38):
Right over there.
Karen Anderson (18:40):
To my right and the deer were all looking to my
right, where all the policeactivity was to the left.
So here I am in the pitchblackness.
I heard this voice in my head.
It was my voice, but it wasn'tmy thought.
I wasn't thinking logs.
I was thinking oh my gosh, whatam I going to do if I find this
guy?
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That's what I was thinking.
Douglas James Cottrell (19:03):
And now you're right.
Karen Anderson (19:05):
So I sneak around, I draw my weapon and
somewhere I found thiscommanding voice to order the
suspect to come out with hishands up.
And there these two littlehands pop up.
Douglas James Cottrell (19:19):
Wow.
Karen Anderson (19:21):
So yeah.
Douglas James Cottrell (19:24):
Back in the in hand cuffs.
Now right, you got it, that wascrazy, because where did that
come from?
Karen Anderson (19:32):
I mean, I thought about it and I
questioned it so many times likehow did that happen?
How's that even possible?
But remember, I was practicinganimal communication on the side
.
Douglas James Cottrell (19:42):
Well, first of all, I think you had a
question in your mind when is he?
And the herd of deer came byand answered the question for
you through some divinecommunication.
And then your higher self wastalking to you or something, and
you went over and in acommanding voice Wow, you know,
(20:04):
come on out.
Holy moly.
So I could.
From my experience, I could seeseveral different amazing
talents.
You have, first of all, thecourage for you to do that.
You know, like you're just kindof breezing by that Karen, but
that armed and dangerous suspectin the dark hiding behind logs,
and you walk up to him and saycome on out.
(20:27):
So, as I said, did you puthandcuffs on a poem in the car?
Karen Anderson (20:31):
So yeah, I cuffed him.
I got him cuffed and on theground and cuffed and I radioed
to my you know the radio's righthere.
Douglas James Cottrell (20:40):
That's for what it was.
What did those colleagues,those other officers, say when
they found out Karen cuffed theguy?
You called him because of thelanguage right?
Karen Anderson (20:50):
So remember, I'm the only female officer there
you got to remember.
Douglas James Cottrell (20:54):
I hardly wait to what happened.
The voice club.
Karen Anderson (20:57):
So they, of course they come racing back
over lights and sirens andeverybody's like, you know, just
pumping.
Adrenaline is pumping and youknow I've got the situation
under control and my heart wasbeating out of my chest.
I mean you can just imagine howmuch adrenaline there is going
on.
And once he was in the patrolcar, you know everybody's pat me
(21:18):
on the back.
Hey Anderson, great job.
How'd you find him?
How'd you know where he was?
Douglas James Cottrell (21:25):
You didn't dare say.
I heard a deer came by andwanted to wave that me.
No, that's right.
Yes, that's the wrong way tokeep.
Okay, so that is an amazingstory.
Not only did the deer you knowwhat would you call it bird dog,
where he was, or give you theheads up, intuitively you must
(21:47):
your popularity down at theprecinct or the sheriff's office
was went through the roof thenext day.
Karen Anderson (21:52):
Oh, I kind of got off perimeter after that
call.
Douglas James Cottrell (21:58):
Well, because I have, I always wanted
to be a policeman and I havefriends and stuff.
I'm just going to back up andsay you're courage to go and do
that.
You know something was insideof you, was also motivating you,
that spirit within kind ofthing, Because maybe somebody
else would have.
When the deer said something,you might have got on the radio
and said, hey, I think he's overhere.
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But instead you just wentthrough naturally, through the
instinctively I guess I can callthat through the motions.
Your training took over.
Whatever you're intuition wasstill cooking.
I like it, the voice that camedown.
That is divine.
That's connection to the high,high dimensions or high self.
So you obviously have more thansimple communication with
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animals.
You're like tuned in and youknow you've got a.
You've got several books outthe pet I can't forget here, all
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I like the title the amazingafterlife of animals.
Let's talk a little bit aboutthat.
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Douglas James Cottrell (24:14):
So just before the break, karen, we were
talking about this amazingexperience you had where, here
you are a police officer, you'rea novice police officer, but
you're fully equipped, you'retrained and you're on perimeter.
You arrest a bad guy that'sreported to be armed and
dangerous.
You come back to the stationand everybody's patting you on
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this back and there's maledominated police station.
So I think during the break youasked what was I thinking?
So what were you thinking backthen?
How did you get from being apolice officer and expanding
into what you do now?
Karen Anderson (24:51):
You know, I think the whole part of it is I
didn't think, I didn't thinkabout it, I didn't.
I let go of the outcome and Ijust followed my heart.
I went where I was drawn orwhere I felt pulled and I
followed my passion and mypassion was leading me to where
I needed to be.
And once I let go of theoutcome, I just trusted and
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that's had like a snowballeffect in my entire life.
There were a lot of bumps alongthe way.
I mean it was not an easy path,but I've never chosen easy.
So I wasn't about to start, butit was so different than what I
had been doing but I would loveit.
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I just couldn't get enough.
And back then this was the late90s and there wasn't the
resources we have now and youknow, there was no social media,
there was nothing.
Back then I just had to go intobookstores to try to figure out
, you know, what was happeningto me and how to sharpen my
(25:57):
skills.
I really had no clue what washappening.
I knew something incredible washappening to me and it
fascinated me.
So I just tried to practice asmuch as I could, understand as
much as possible, read as manybooks as I could, and that led
me to developing my animalcommunication abilities.
Douglas James Cottrell (26:21):
While you're on a spiritual path,
obviously right from when youwere a child, because you came
into the world with spiritualgifts and abilities, like all,
can I say, the spiritual peoplein books, from the Bible to the
Quran, to the Gita, to all thesebooks talk about spiritual
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experiences and always a life ofchallenge, difficulty and
service.
So you're already, you were onthe path and you were alone as a
child and you were, of coursethe dark forces were trying to
get, get you off the path ofhaving a marvelous spiritual
ability to communicate withanimals and I love this story
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about there.
You are on the job and a deersays over there behind the logs
is where the bad guy is.
You must have had otherexperiences along the way in
your career as a police officer,but if you tell us a little
more, I'm sure the audiencewould love to hear a couple more
of these amazing stories.
Not to break you up, but I justthink that's the amount of
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courage you took to do that.
You know the worst thing for apolice officer going down a dark
alley at night, knowing there'sa bad guy at the other end of
the alley and he's got a gun.
And as an officer you stillhave to go.
Most people wouldn't go downthere.
They they, not me call 911.
So that's to me we're havingthat affinity with people who
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risked their lives like that forthe public good.
Obviously in you your spiritualwellness and capabilities were
protecting you.
But where I want to go withthis is if you might have had a
few more of those experiences.
But somewhere along the line youmade the transition from being
an animal whisperer I think it'sthe term now put out there
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horse whispers, dog whisper orsomething like that.
That was before those termscome out here you were having
these communicationstelepathically or or audibly or
whatever, and tell us a littlebit how you had the.
You didn't say much to the, tothe sheriff or the deputies, I'm
sure.
But there was to say how didyou know that?
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You know and you say, well, seethat little kitty cat over
there.
He told me that the bad guy wasbehind the curtain or something
like that.
But how did you get throughyour career?
How long were you a policeofficer and how did you make the
transition to being thisamazing, a self employed person?
Author, counselor and lecturer.
Karen Anderson (28:48):
My law enforcement career was not long.
It was only about three yearstotal.
But when you work in a smalldepartment you do everything.
There's no divisions, there'sno you know, you don't hand it
off to someone else to take it.
We had this saying you youcatch them, you clean them.
You had to take it all the wayyou know, through the end, into
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court or whatever you were doingwith that particular case.
So it was a very condensedcareer and I felt that I was
being pulled toward animalcommunication.
So once again, I followed that.
I listened to that and not tomention just that.
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But also I was getting older.
I was already 36 when I enteredthe police academy.
That's kind of, you know,pushing the envelope.
Douglas James Cottrell (29:46):
Yeah, it's pretty hard running down
these climate over fences andstuff when you're like 40 years
old or something, I think we canall think of that.
Karen Anderson (29:56):
I had about 25 pounds worth of gear on me,
between the vest and all theother equipment that you have on
the belt, and I was at 8000feet in the Rocky Mountains.
The suspects are gettingyounger and I was, you know,
pushing 40.
And I thought you know this.
I got to think about where myheart is and what do I want to
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do.
If it weren't for lawenforcement, I don't know that
my abilities would haveprogressed as fast as they did,
but I started following my truepassion, which was the animals,
and that was my decision toleave law enforcement and to go
full time into animalcommunication.
And this is all I share all ofthese stories in my book.
(30:41):
So it wasn't always easy.
During that time there was alot of pushback from loved ones
and I wanted to talk about thata little bit with you, because
Else, which book were youreferring to?
The Hero creatures and theamazing afterlife of animals
have this pathway that I tookand all the pushback I got,
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especially from those theclosest to me.
They try to talk me out of itleft and right, that you know
what are you doing.
You're crazy enough to be a copand now you're going to go talk
to dead animals.
You know what the heck is thematter with you.
Douglas James Cottrell (31:20):
What about the pension and the
holidays and the security?
And you're saying this is myspiritual path.
Like all spiritual masters,spiritual people?
There comes that point Karen,myself as well where you just
have this inner knowing thatthis is what you should do.
And look at all the help you'redoing now.
Karen Anderson (31:39):
I mean I know, I know that's the, that's the
silver lining of it, so I had todisregard everybody.
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Karen Anderson (31:49):
Yeah, I had to just follow my heart and it was
very, very lonely journey.
There were times when I feltlike I was, you know, just on my
own, constantly sailing againstthe wind and hitting massive
waves, but I just kept going.
I don't know the driver wherethat came from, but I just was
on this course and I was goingand no one was going to stop me.
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I don't care what they said.
I've been called every name inthe book and you know to go into
the realm of intuitive work andenergy work and animal
communication.
You know you deal with a lot ofpeople that first of all, they
don't believe in it or theythink that you're just trying to
scam them.
(32:31):
I came from the evidentialbackground, being a police
officer, so I became what Iturned an evidential medium,
meaning I own.
My goal was to get evidentialmessages that could only be
validated and verified by myclient, so that I could
literally prove beyond a shadowof it out that I was definitely
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communicating with their lovedone.
So that was my.
My goal and my dream was to bethe best that I could be in this
evidential mediumship.
Now it's a term, it's out there, but I was doing this so long
ago that I just I didn't want togive general information like,
oh, your dog or your cat lovesyou and they miss you, and they
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had a good life.
Douglas James Cottrell (33:15):
You're too smart for that.
I have a motto.
Basically I felt the same andcome across it.
My motto is faith is built uponbelief and belief is built upon
evidence.
And, like you, when I was doingstuff for people back in the
70s, I would, you know, say, goto the doctor and find out what
I said was true or whatever.
(33:36):
Whatever was it was, you know,look for the truth, don't
believe me, verify it.
And that is a mark of you beingin harmony with your high self.
You were looking for theevidence so that in your mind
and your good heart and yourconsciousness there was no doubt
, there was no like flowery, youknow, like making stuff.
(33:56):
You know this was it.
This is the facts.
And you had the evidence againbecause you're, you know your,
your background, as a policeofficer, perhaps, or as also
going back to your accountingdays, well, you know being,
let's find out those things.
Your path was sort of guidedfrom above and I'm not trying to
tell your story here.
I'm suggesting that you and Iand everybody else who's
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intuitive has had similar things.
For the people who don't know,they're in the darkness.
But that challenge that you metand you didn't stop.
I compliment you again, becausewith the same courage you
persevered.
The Good Book says a prophet isnever honored in their own land
, nor are they honored by theirown family, and that's a test to
(34:38):
be a prophet.
So you're on the way of being aprophet, you know.
Karen Anderson (34:43):
There's kind of goosebumps on that one.
Douglas James Cottrell (34:45):
Yeah, well, that's me working on being
clairvoyant now, or I'm beingintuitive is a better, easier
word to say it, so you've gotthis word.
I love that term Evidential.
You know what?
Did you call it?
Communication or reading, sowhat's?
Karen Anderson (35:00):
your evidential mediumship.
Douglas James Cottrell (35:02):
I would drop the mediumship because
you're more clairvoyant.
Okay, there's not somebodybetween you and the animals,
they're coming.
That's more clairvoyant, that'sa higher level of communication
.
If I might give you or offerthat to you, oh sure.
We'll be right back after this.
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Douglas James Cottrell (36:33):
Today's guest is Karen Anderson.
Tell us a little bit at thispoint.
How can people get a hold ofyou right now?
Karen Anderson (36:41):
Right now, the easiest way to get me is through
my website, which is simply myname, karenandersonnet.
Although I am no longerconducting private consultations
.
I retired from that severalyears ago to focus on coaching,
animal communication and writing.
I have several hand selectedvery gifted animal communicators
(37:06):
that I refer all of my clientsto, so you can reach out to me
for recommendations on a session, and I don't have a podcast,
but it's so funny that you havementioned that because I've been
kicking that around in my headfor a while now, so I'm getting
(37:26):
messages from above that maybethat's in the future.
Douglas James Cottrell (37:31):
Some people like me who live in the
future all the time, every daymaybe just kind of like seeing
things for you out there as well, so people can go to
KarenAnderson.
Would you spell Anderson forpeople, just to make surenet
KarenAnderson Right.
Karen Anderson (37:47):
It's A-N-D-E-R-S-O-Nnet, and, of
course, all of my books are onAmazon worldwide.
Two of them are on Audible, andthe pet I can't forget, which
is my latest release, is.
I'm very proud of this book.
It's a compilation of so manyheartwarming and insightful
(38:11):
stories.
If you have recently lost a pet, or if you have an elderly pet
that is maybe in its goldenyears, this book will help you
understand how to find moresigns, to receive more signs,
raise your vibration to be opento receiving signs, how signs
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are sent from the afterlife.
It's all about signs and thatour loved ones never leave us.
They're always with us,especially during our darkest
times, and our pets love us morethan anything, and that love
has to be somewhere.
It doesn't just end when thephysical body ends.
So that book the pet I can'tforget is all about these
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incredible and amazing stories.
Plus, there are afterlifesessions that I conducted where
you can actually hear some ofthe life-changing messages I
received during actual afterlifecommunication.
Douglas James Cottrell (39:11):
How about you give us one of those
stories right now, just to leteverybody know?
Karen Anderson (39:15):
Yes, and I do want to share one very powerful
story for you.
This is in my book the AmazingAfterlife of Animals.
I just want to share it becauseit truly shows how much our
animals love us, to the point ofmore so than they care about
themselves at a certain degree.
So all my sessions were doneover the phone.
(39:38):
We didn't have Zoom back then.
I was always on the phone andmy client had called in and she
was very distraught because shehad recently lost her beloved
cat.
Now, this cat she had found as astray.
It came into her life when shewas really sad and lonely and
they became very, very closecompanions.
(40:00):
It was kind of an outdoorindoor cat and one day she was
on her way to work.
She was in a hurry, she waslate for a meeting, so she
backed out of the garage and sheinadvertently hit the cat.
Now, the cat survived so,however, later it succumbed to
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its injuries from that incident.
So of course she was riddledwith guilt and overwhelmed by
grief and feeling responsiblethat she had killed her cat and
she contacted me for anafterlife communication.
So I opened up the session withthe cat.
I only used a photo that was myconnection.
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That's like having their cellphone number.
I dial them up, I dial up theirenergy through their photo and
it's a process.
It's just kind of I like seeingtheir faces.
It lets me focus on them more.
It lets me focus on theirenergy if I can see a picture of
them.
So the cat came through veryupbeat and happy and balanced
(41:09):
and beautiful and so much lovefor his mom, and I'm sharing all
this information.
I call you moms and dads, notowners, Because if anyone owns
anyone, they own our hearts.
So I call you moms and dads.
Douglas James Cottrell (41:22):
I love it.
That's great.
Karen Anderson (41:25):
And we were sharing beautiful messages back
and forth, but during thesession, this cat kept showing
me.
Now, remember, all I had wasthe cat's name, age, and I knew
that it had recently passed.
I didn't know anything else.
This cat kept showing me and,not to be graphic, but it kept
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showing me an amputated leg.
It wasn't gross or icky oranything like that, but don't
forget, I was a cop.
I've seen a lot of crazy stuff.
So I kept seeing this amputatedleg, but it was a human leg and
I thought, well, the cat mustjust be showing me that it got
this injury.
And I didn't want to sayanything because she was already
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so upset.
I didn't want to talk about thecat's injury.
I didn't tell her anything.
Two more times this cat flashedthat image at me.
Like Karen, I'm sending youthis for a reason.
So I have a rule, Douglas.
Douglas James Cottrell (42:25):
Three times Three times Okay.
Karen Anderson (42:30):
So I finally said very delicately, I said I'm
so sorry, I don't mean to causeyou any upset, but did your cat
lose a leg?
Was a leg amputated because ofthis accident?
Total silence.
And then she started sobbing, Imean like gasping sobbing, and
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I thought, oh my gosh, I'vereally done it.
I shouldn't have said anything.
Why did I do that?
Douglas James Cottrell (43:04):
However.
Karen Anderson (43:06):
She could finally catch her breath.
All she could say was thank youso much, thank you so much, I
needed this, thank you so much.
And I thought what?
How would you want to hear that?
She says no, no.
I said I'm so sorry, I didn'tmean to upset you.
She goes no, no, no, karen, Ineed this is what I needed to
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hear.
And I said well, did your catlose a limb?
And she says no.
Three months after the catpassed away, she was in a
horrible car accident and shehad her leg amputated and during
the recovery phase in thehospital bed she felt the cat
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laying next to her phantom leg.
Douglas James Cottrell (43:55):
Wow, fantastic.
Now I've had similarexperiences and I'm sorry I got
ahead of you a little bit bysaying you know three times, but
I had a very similar experienceand this is all about you, not
me.
But I likewise saw a man whohad no legs and I was giving
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some information about this manand I was saying, well, he's got
no legs to stand on, maybefeeling a little nervous, you
know, I was making stuff up andthe lady turned out to be quite
intuitive herself and she wavedher finger at me.
She says Douglas, you're nottelling me everything.
You see, this man has no legs,he was in a train accident and
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that was my lesson, and so youhad this lesson and I've learned
.
I'll pass this on to you, karen, it's because I like you so
much.
When I get in situations likethat, I say no, I'm going to
tell you.
I could be right, it could bewrong, but I'm gonna tell you
what I see yeah and I once had abusiness man and I said
(45:02):
something to him and I said Ihave no ideas what this means.
And he says I know exactly whatthat means.
Just like that he says thankyou.
And that was it.
15 minutes into theconsultation he had his answer
and gone.
So I'm passing it back on toyou as being along.
That way of becoming a prophetis that if you see strange
things and you will in order to,in order to feel comfortable
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about it, you said could beright, it could be wrong.
I teach this to students aswell.
And then I say I have no ideawhat it means, but this is what
I see.
You made that lady's heart jumpbecause she knew exactly that
you were tuning into that animaland everything you were saying
was the gospel.
I applaud you and you did have,sooner or later, you know you
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kind of after the third littlenudge you did, you did say it,
you didn't hold it, you didn'tlet it go back or go by.
Karen Anderson (45:55):
I still to this day get that same feeling that I
got when I delivered thatmessage, because I could feel
her move from that deep place ofdarkness to where she was
really understanding that hercat was there with her in spirit
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and she wasn't alone and he wasthere by her side during her
recovery and that it was moreconcerned about her than it was
about what she had done to him.
Because, remember, the wholething was she felt guilty for
causing his death.
That never came up.
He never mentioned it.
All he talked about was hisconcern for her.
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It's a beautiful story and it'spowerful because the things that
keep us up at night of thingswe could have done or should
have done for our pets or whydidn't I take them in sooner, or
why didn't I give them thatmedicine, or why didn't I take
them to specialist, or I waitedtoo long, or I waited, didn't
wait long enough it's never anissue with our animals.
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Those are human thoughts.
Those are not in our companionsminds.
It doesn't serve them, so itdoesn't even come up.
They are so much better at thisthan we are.
As far as what really matters,you know we stressed about
things that don't matter and theanimals bring us right back
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down to what's so important, andit sounds so cliche and corny,
but it's the love that youshared with them.
That's what's important, that'swhat they always come back to
and that's what matters.
So you could have had somethingto do with their final moments,
unintentionally, and they don'tever see it that way.
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They don't judge us judging asa human trait, not an animal
trait.
They don't blame us.
Blame as a human trait, not ananimal trait.
We don't have to ask theirforgiveness.
You ask an animal what isforgiveness and they'll kind of
look at you like I forgive this.
Douglas James Cottrell (48:10):
That's a human thing now again, because
you talk to the animals.
You're telling us what theythink or feel or what their
thoughts are.
So it's not like intellectualconjection here.
You're telling us the animalsis what they say, like what are
you talking about?
Forgiveness, that was yesterday, wasn't it?
(48:31):
Hey, what's in my bowl today?
You know I'm stiffening thedoor.
What's out there?
I want to go out today.
Never mind, it was pouring rainand snowing yesterday.
Looks kind of neat out theretoday.
So you're telling us this fromthe from the animals perspective
.
So people should pay attentionnow.
Do they come back in otherlives?
I'm asking a rhetoricalquestion do they come back in?
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Do they re incarnate back in inour lives?
Karen Anderson (48:56):
some do, some don't, and it's it's really hard
to prove and, of course, mebeing evidential, I always look
for the proof.
So the proof comes through yourheart and how you feel the
connection with that animalreturning, you'll know, there
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will be no doubt in your mind.
You'll have a sense of feeling,a download or an impression.
You will know when yourcompanion comes back to you,
because it will be an undeniablething that only you can prove.
You know I might be able tovalidate a few things, like you
know they're showing me this orthey're saying that they used to
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do this or whatever they wantto tell me.
But only you know what's inyour heart and what you're
feeling.
And if that is the soul beingrecognized by your higher self,
your souls will recognize eachother, even if the exterior is
different makes sense.
Douglas James Cottrell (49:57):
I'm thinking of some stories clients
would tell me.
A lady had a cat.
The cat was climbing up thecurtains all the time, across
the curtain, ride up on thebookshelf.
And the lady said to me youknow, if I didn't know better
I'd swear that cat was a monkey.
And I said monkey.
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I wonder if he was a monkey inhis past life.
On another occasion somebodywas talking about a dog and he
said oh, he looks like a bear.
He walks like a bear.
Look at him.
You know he's a large.
It doesn't look like a bear.
And everybody's going yeah, helooks like a bear.
Well, maybe in another life hewas a bear.
(50:41):
And people are seeing this.
They're intuitively looking atthis or getting the impressions,
but they they haven't put ittogether that what they're
really seeing is the energy froma previous time.
So animals can come back fromtheir own incarnations, I guess,
and be a monkey one time and acat the next, or be an elephant
one time and a mouse the next.
(51:02):
I don't know.
You know the idea that peoplecome back in your life and some
do and some don't.
I guess the some that the onesthat don't move on, they are.
They have other things to do.
I have sort of an understandingof a consciousness in the
animal kingdom.
What do you think about that?
Karen Anderson (51:17):
yeah, I truly believe that and my belief is,
douglas, if it's in the highestand best for that particular
soul's growth to reincarnate, asyou know, come back again as a
cat, a dog or whatever they wantto come back as that, that is
possible.
I don't think there's a rulebook.
I don't think there's someonestanding there with a checklist
(51:38):
and saying up your dog, you canonly come back as a dog, or
you're a cat or you know, youcan only be a cat, you're human,
you can only be a human.
I think it's you know, way morein depth than that.
And if it's in the highest andbest for your soul's progression
in the spiritual sense toexpand and evolve and have those
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experiences, who's to say youcan't come back as something
else or a different species?
I'm certainly not going to putmy name down on something that
says that can never happen, noway, no way.
I never say never and I and Inever say always, because there
there's, you can't lock yourselfin like that.
(52:19):
You just there's so much outthere we don't even know.
You know I've only scratchedthe tip of the iceberg with my
experiences and I've been doingthis for 26 years and I still
feel like I have so much more tolearn and there's so much
wisdom that the animals canshare with us, mostly about how
to be a better human.
I love that the animals teachus how to be how to be better
(52:42):
humans.
You know they, they have taughtme so much about life in the
afterlife there's there's somore accepting of their eventual
passing out of physical forminto spirit form than we are.
They have this sense or knowingthat the soul continues, that
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most humans fear, and animalsseem to be very accepting of
this.
Now don't get me wrong.
I've never met an animal thathas wanted to die.
And you know there's a verystrong will to survive.
And those of us that have hadanimals that we've cared for
you'll know that they'll kind offight to the last breath.
(53:26):
They'll do everything that theycan.
But that's mother nature,instinct, evolution, that's all
those things rolled into one.
But they truly have anacceptance of their progression
as a physical and spiritualbeing that I think we have a lot
to learn from them.
Douglas James Cottrell (53:46):
I know there's therapy pets or pets
that we can do that too.
There are people who love theiranimals more than themselves.
There's this throughout history.
Animals have always been, youknow, associated with the clan,
the tribe in the cave, you know,around the campfire back in the
(54:07):
days.
Animals have always had thisspecial relationship with us.
No matter what some people likereptiles and some people like
birds, and it's a preference forthe person Animals always had
this integral relationship withus.
Give us another story.
We have about another 10minutes or so left.
Tell us another wonderful storythat you were going to mention
earlier about pets and how theycan help us along the way.
Karen Anderson (54:31):
Oh well, absolutely so.
You know, one of the thingsthat happens to us when we lose
a beloved companion is and thishas happened to me, I speak from
experiences you know, grief canoverwhelm us and it can
stagnate us and keep us in avery dark place, if we allow it.
(54:52):
These are choices we have tomake.
You know, grief is an action,it's movement.
We're not meant to stay there.
It's a temporary place and ouranimals can show us that.
You know, it's part of lovingsomeone and having to say
goodbye it's part of our journey.
(55:13):
But we're not supposed to staythere indefinitely.
We're supposed to experiencethat because loss is part of
your journey with your companionand it's supposed to hurt.
You love something that deeplyyes, it's going to hurt when
they're no longer physicallythere with you.
Douglas James Cottrell (55:35):
But they do come back, right, I mean
they do.
I'm coming back on that lady inthe hospital and she could feel
them on the bed.
I've had other people talk tome.
They could feel like they'rekitty cat walking across their
bed.
Karen Anderson (55:47):
Yes, yes, and my new book, the Pet I Can't
Forget, is full of stories aboutpeople having experiences just
like that.
Some have found, you know, veryunusual objects placed in, like
right in their pathway or rightwhere they were going to step
or right where they were goingto walk.
There's one story in the bookwhere the mom, the cat's mom was
(56:13):
just picking up the crematedremains and very distraught and
was asking for some kind of sign, or just let me know that
you're okay.
She walks out to her car andthere's a giant feather, like
six inch long feather, plasteredto the side of her tire, not
(56:34):
where she drove over it, but onthe side a six inch long feather
.
It's like how did that getthere?
Incredible signs, you know.
Finding a lot of the storieswill share what I call sky signs
, where you will ask for a signand you look up and you see a
(56:56):
rainbow, or you see a cloudformation in the shape of your
beloved companion, or maybe yousee a lot of bird messengers.
Birds are messengers of spirit.
They love to come in and letyou know that your loved one is
near.
So many people have experiencedthat, along with dream
(57:16):
visitations, where you have thisincredibly realistic dream
where you wake up expecting tosee your companion right there,
because you felt them.
You could feel their fur orfeathers or whoever you had,
whoever your loved one was, andit was so real.
That's because it is real.
It's a real visitation andthat's one of the most common
(57:40):
ways that they come to us,because our minds are in a
relaxed state and we're moreopen to receiving that
visitation than when we're inour cluttery, busy, noisy,
conscious, alert state.
I have a lot of people write tome saying I haven't received a
(58:02):
sign.
I'm heartbroken.
Why haven't I gotten a sign?
And I write about this too thatsome animals don't necessarily
feel the need to send a sign,especially the ones that are
around us the most.
You're with us 24, seven, orthey're about there's no clocks
(58:23):
in the afterlife but On theother side that's right, they
don't feel the need to gather upa bunch of energy to send a
sign, because they're around youall the time and you become
desensitized to their presence.
Because it merges with yoursand it's so familiar, you just
don't pick up on it, you don'tsense it, you don't feel it.
Douglas James Cottrell (58:46):
What do you think of this idea?
You lose a pet, you grieve,time goes by, you're never going
to have another dog or cat likepuppy.
And then all of a sudden youhave a dream and there's puppy,
but now a younger, whateverpuppy.
And then let's say, your dogwas white and now this is a
(59:08):
black dog in your dream and itlooks just like your puppy dog,
same thing, whatever.
Looking at you.
No, I could look at you.
And then somewhere somebodycomes up and says look at this
wonderful puppy.
He's looking for a home.
And you look at it.
That's the one in my dream.
Karen Anderson (59:25):
Oh yes.
Douglas James Cottrell (59:26):
You think that's a little sign from
the first one to say I'm comingback.
Karen Anderson (59:32):
Oh yes, they will often do that.
They'll send so many new intoyour life and my best
recommendation is pay attentionto what's happening around you,
because there are signs.
Grieve can be like a heavyblanket so you can miss them.
If you are deeply grieving andI'm one of the worst when I'm
grieving I go down the rabbithole and it's like leave me
(59:55):
alone.
I just want to be in thislittle rabbit hole and don't
talk to me, don't look at me.
I just want to be in pain,leave me alone.
But if you start payingattention to all the signs and
start connecting the dots to allthe unusual things that are
happening around you, theselittle we call them coincidences
they're not.
(01:00:15):
This is synchronicity is going.
Hey, pay attention, I'm withyou, I'm around you.
It could be a song, it could bea billboard, it could be the
license plate in front of you,it could be something written on
someone's shirt.
I mean, there's so many waysthat our loved ones send these
spirit messages and if you justpay attention and if you don't
discount them, then you willopen a door to receive more
(01:00:40):
messages.
And this is what's so important.
Even if you think you're notreceiving them, I'll bet you
anything.
You are, I'll bet you anything.
You're getting messages, butfor whatever reason, the grief
or the sadness or whatever it'sblocking you.
But I guarantee you there aresigns and messages there, even
this one.
If you have a suddenoverwhelming surge of emotion
(01:01:04):
thinking about your companion,you may think that's you just
missing your companion.
It's not.
What happens is you're thinkingabout your companion.
It draws them in like a moth tothe flame.
Your higher self, your soul,recognizes their presence and
there's this total, overwhelmingrush of emotions,
(01:01:28):
uncontrollable emotions.
That you think is just youthinking about them.
It's not.
It's your souls recognizingeach other, going hey, I'm here,
yeah, I know you're here, Ijust felt you.
And then that upwelling ofemotions that will strike you at
the strangest time, likedriving down the road or in the
grocery store or when you leastexpect it.
Boom, that's a sign.
(01:01:49):
That's your body having aphysical reaction to the
presence of your loved one.
So I guarantee you you'regetting signs and messages.
You just don't realize it oryou want to discount it because
it hurts too much.
That's another thing.
We put up protective shields tostop ourselves from feeling
(01:02:10):
more pain because it hurts.
It's horrible.
So I'm almost I can't sayalways, but almost all the time
they do send us signs.
We just have to know what tolook for and thank them.
Be sure you say thank you, Igot that, thank you, I felt that
(01:02:31):
, thank you, I saw that andasked for more.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:02:35):
Well said, well said.
I know people in my world havehad similar experiences with
their pets and they say I alwaysknow when puppies around I he
had a peculiar smell about himor I could hear a little bell
tingle that was the bell theyhad on their collar and they
(01:02:55):
have these signs.
So well said.
They keep people abreast ofthat.
The animals they drop in on youand again, when you're shopping
or driving a car you're in kindof like a meditative state,
you're not in your thinkingstate, unless you're angry, of
course and so they're droppingin.
So that's well said.
I mean, they love us.
(01:03:16):
They do come back.
I've had my own dreams aboutanimals that we're going to come
.
We're going to come in my lifeand it's happened.
But before we end the show, Isee that you have a non-profit
sanctuary.
Can you tell us a little bitabout that?
Karen Anderson (01:03:31):
I would love to.
So.
Going back to childhood now.
I rescued animals my whole lifeand it was always a dream of
mine to have an animal sanctuary, and I made that dream happen,
and I am the CEO and founder ofPainted Rain Ranch Animal
Sanctuary.
(01:03:52):
We are a non-profit charitableorganization and what we do is
we rescue the pets nobody elsewants, the ones that are
overlooked at the sheltersbecause of their age or their
health issues, maybe theirspecial needs, maybe they've
(01:04:13):
just been abandoned, strayed,and you know many are overlooked
because they might have amissing limb or they might be
blind, or they might have to bediabetic or whatever.
I bring them here to our ranch.
I live in eastern Washington on30 acres.
It's beautiful, green trees allaround, rolling hills, open
(01:04:37):
fields and pastures, and theylive out the rest of their
natural life here on the ranchwith my husband and I, and we
are passionate about givingthese animals a second chance in
a forever loving home.
They'll never be adopted out.
(01:04:58):
They stay here.
This is their home, they'repart of the family and they live
a very happy and spoiled lifehere with us, and all the
proceeds from my books and myonline beginners course for
animal communication theproceeds go to the non-profit.
(01:05:21):
So I have completely devotedmyself and my life and my work
to help the animals in need.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:05:32):
Today's guest was Karen Anderson.
Go to her website and you'llfind several books that you can
purchase somewhere on Amazon.
You can donate or you can findout more about the painted rain
ranch animal sanctuary.
Karen Anderson (01:05:49):
Karen Anderson done that.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:05:50):
It's been amazing to have you on the
show today, karen.
You've had an amazing career.
You are a courageous woman.
You are a saint in the making.
Let me put it that this comesto my mind as I say that.
So thank you very much forbeing on the show.
Karen Anderson (01:06:06):
Thank you so much.
I appreciate this opportunityto share so much.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:06:10):
You're very welcome.
You've been listening to theDouglas James Cottrell show.
We'll be back next week withmore light and we will encourage
you.
Remember the journey is justbeginning.
I'm your host, dr Douglas JamesCottrell.
Until next time, may God blessyou with peace and prosperity.
Take care, my friends.
God bless.
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