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The digital age promises connection yet delivers isolation for countless people drowning in information while starving for meaning. In this profound episode, Dr. Douglas James Cotrell and co-host Les Hubert explore the spiritual crisis lurking beneath our technological abundance.

We begin by examining the paradox of modern loneliness—how constant digital stimulation creates a restless mind that cannot settle into spiritual reflection. Drawing from decades of spiritual practice, Dr. Douglas reveals how meditation works not through rigid postures but by quieting what he calls the "monkey mind" to access the steady, purposeful "elephant mind." This transition allows us to tap into deeper wisdom and even access other dimensions of consciousness.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn with Les sharing his encounter with Kasim Hafiz, a former jihadist whose journey toward peace began with simply questioning what he'd been taught. This powerful story illustrates how truth-seeking can transform even the most deeply held beliefs when approached with an open heart.

The hosts also explore Antarctica's mysteries, including recent discoveries of structures beneath the ice and unexplained radio signals, before discussing Claude Monet's artistic vision as a form of spiritual perception. Dr. Douglas suggests that true artists access other realms of consciousness, bringing back visions that the rest of us can only glimpse through their work.

Throughout the episode, practical wisdom emerges: the importance of distinguishing between wants and needs, how to escape the slavery of debt, and understanding that our responsibility extends only to "arm's length"—focusing on what we can control while surrendering the rest. For those feeling adrift in our hyper-connected yet spiritually disconnected world, this conversation offers a compass to navigate back to authentic connection with yourself and others.

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Announcer (00:00):
Welcome to Wake Up with Dr.
Douglas James Cottrell, yoursource of helpful information
and advice, to live your life ina mindful way in this
increasingly chaotic world.
For over four decades, Dr.
Douglas has been teachingpeople how to develop their
intuition, live their lives in aconscious way.
News and views of the worldtomorrow today are always

(00:21):
informative and revealing.
And now is your host, Dr.
Douglas James Cottrell.

Douglas (00:31):
Hey everybody, good evening.
And we're here to bring yousome more exciting information.
My co-host Les Hubert and I.
I'm your host, Douglas JamesCottrell.
We're here, and our backup inthe back room is the Wizard of
Oz, uh Jack, who's pulling allthe levers and pressing the
buttons to make this show comelive to you tonight.

(00:51):
Uh we want to talk to you abouta lot of things tonight.
Very interesting stories,what's going on?
Les has had some wonderfulexperiences in the last evening.
Some really amazing stuff hashappened to him.
And tonight we're going to stepback into the unknown.
We're going to talk about thatchilly place.
And I'm not talking about SouthAmerica, I'm talking about
Antarctica.

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We're going to have a look atthat.
We're also going to look atClaude Monet, who is a very
well-known.
However, he's passed into thehistory of history books, but
his life and times are having animpression upon us today.
Tonight we step back, we lookahead, we look for the headlines
tomorrow, today, and we'reabove and beyond the noise and

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into a place where insight islive and thrives.
From uh everything you want toknow to everything we can
provide for you, we're heretonight on the Soul Report Live.
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It's broadcast live for youwith the intent to lift your
spirit and to send out waves oftruth to you, my friends, in
this time of chaos.
Welcome to the show, Les.
It's great to see you tonight.
I trust you had a good week.
Things are going well.
Tell me, you had an exciting ummoment or experience in uh

(02:18):
Princeton, I think, which is inProvince, Rhode Island, for our
friends around the country.
And we're going to get to thatin a minute.
But I mean, did you go to sleeplast night?
It was so exciting, or youknow, what you told me was
amazing.

Les (02:32):
Yeah, it was pretty interesting.
Uh, we're going to start offtonight's show uh with our
spiritual segment calledLoneliness and Isolation in a
Connected Age.
Despite constant digitalconnectivity in uh today's
modern world, many people feelmorally and spiritually isolated
and depressed.
Today's culture shows thatomestimulation and restlessness
also actively work against theserenity and inner depth needed

(02:54):
for spiritual reflection.
Many would see this as boredom.
Many are not even looking.
Tons of data show that pastgenerations did not have this
problem.
So, how do we get back to wherewe're supposed to be being
connected spiritually withourselves and with each other,
Doug?

Douglas (03:10):
Agricultural life.
As Lauren Hardy used to say.
Oh, look, I email, oh, I've gotto do this, and I've got to

(03:49):
come to see that uh Soul Reportlive show on Mondays.
You know, I gotta, I I gotta, Igotta, I gotta.
So um, you know, the more we uhI can't I think you can put it
something like this.
I once handed my father when Iwas in my uh early 20s a
calculator.
It was super uh, you know, it'skind of kind of like ancient

(04:12):
history.
I know it's like rocks we'retalking about, but but back in
the day I handed him acalculator.
It was battery operated, andyou could press buttons and it
would it could do all thearithmetic, but it also could do
other things.
Logarithm, square root,whatever, you know, uh nothing
fancy.
And I handed it to him becausehe was a businessman and he used
to do his arithmetic uh in hisyou know long form on a pad and

(04:34):
in his mind.
And he didn't want anything todo with it.
You know, no, I don't wantthat.
I was like, what?
You know, this cost me $10 orwhatever it was at the time.
No, I didn't want any part.
I said, look, you can press thebuttons and write, add things
up.
Don't make it, no, no, I don'twant any part of it.
What he didn't want to do wasto learn about this mechanical,

(04:56):
mysterious device that somehowyou could press buttons and it
would keep on adding up, like anold and you know, the ending
machine used to put the buttonsin and pull a lever.
I know that's for people, whatpull levers?
I know I press buttons?
What's that all about?
So I don't mean to dateourselves or myself, but back in

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the day that was considerednouveau technology.
Anyway, so from that, thatalways stuck with me.
And I find uh I felt, but thatit's it's gonna be labor-saving
and help you.
Human nature hasn't changedmuch.
When somebody comes to me andthey say, Hey, Bitcoin this and

(05:36):
Bitcoin that, and oh, get thisapp.
And oh, by the way, you can dothis other thing, it cleans up
your phone for your duplicationsof your videos and whatever.
And here's another app.
It'll tell you, it'll tell youhow many how many subscriptions
you're paying for to how manyapps that you never use or don't
know anything about.
So that analogy of my fathernot wanting to embrace uh new

(06:02):
technology that was beyond whathe would consider reasonable,
uh, falls into my lap now.
And I think for a lot ofpeople, I mean the idea is that
do you meditate, my friends?
No, you're always on the go,something to do.

(06:22):
You know, creation said thatGod rested on the Sabbath, the
seventh day.
That doesn't mean that God tooktime out and was, you know,
down at the beach, wherever thatis, in the in the atmosphere,
in the uh in the uh galaxies, itmeant that you have to clear
your mind, you have to distractyourself, otherwise your mind

(06:46):
continues to um cannibalizeitself, you're constantly
absorbing thoughts, and so whileyou're in sitting in front of a
computer and while your mind'sracing at warp speed, you are
becoming exhausted, and thenyou're becoming depressed
because the oxygen in your bodyis being gobbled up, the

(07:08):
hemoglobin is getting less andless, you're feeling tired, and
so then you've fallen into thatpoint of gee, you know, I'm
having naps more often.
Yeah, we we get that, you know,you get past 50, 60.
When you get around 65, 75,naps are a good thing.
However, younger people areexhausted, and so to answer the

(07:29):
question is uh, you know, as Ias I was humorously saving, an
agricultural life.
It means getting back tonature, hugging a tree.
By the way, there's this newstuff about magnets and copper
wire, and apparently they canmeasure that electricity comes
from a tree.
And I've seen an aura around atree, it's beautiful, it's like

(07:50):
about that thick, it's allaround the leaves and the tree
because the tree is a livingentity or living force.
So when you go and you hug it,you're actually getting some of
this electrical charge.
I know it's out there, peopleare talking about magnets and
copper wire wrapped around astick and you stick it in the
ground and it energizes theground.
It really works.
I've tried it.
It really does.
So talk to somebody about that,and they go like, I don't think

(08:16):
so.
I don't think so.
Um, I still, you know, like theI like to peel my potatoes.
I don't like to get them in apackage, you know, that kind of
stuff.
So as we go through this time,I'm I hope I'm getting to the
point, which is that when you'rewhen you're in a crowd and you
feel all alone, that's howpeople are living in today's uh

(08:42):
warp speed life.
Remember, I say you live yourlife outside the house, you
spend your life inside thehouse.
So you you're you're supposedto be outside the house.
You're not supposed to comeinto the house at any time other
than when the weather's so badthat you have to.
Right, right.
That's how it used to be.

(09:02):
So to answer your question, thepoint is that do you take time
out, my friends?
You know, drop us a note in inthe uh chat and and tell us
about how you try to relax.
If you do, I'll bet you mostpeople don't.
You're on the go all the time.
And as you do that, you becomesusceptible by information
overload, just like my dad withthe calculator.

(09:24):
And I I quite frankly, whensomebody comes along and said,
Hey Douglas, look, chat GPT,hey, there's AI, hey, there's
this, hey, there's that.
I go, hold it.
I've had enough.
Douglas, you can get an app andyou can get somebody who's
going to give you investment andyou can put money in and it
makes money all by itself.
I don't believe that.
I hope it's really good luck,you know.

(09:45):
But apparently there are suchthings.
You put money in and it makespennies on a dollar or
something.
I don't know.
But the idea is getting back tothe point.
Um, how many times have youfound yourself in a in a crowd,
my friends, and you're you'reyou've had bad news, or perhaps
you've just been let go from ajob, or you know, you got
dumped, right?

(10:06):
Or there's been a death, yourspouse has passed away, um, some
tragic thing has happened toyour family or your friends, or
something you never expectedhappened to you.
Oh my god, whatever that was.
You're alone.
Where are you alone in yourhead?
You're surrounded by people,but you're oblivious, they're

(10:30):
oblivious to you, I should say.
And you're alone, and you havethis world of thoughts,
depressing, disabling, feelinglonely and isolated.
Well, that can go on for daysand days and days.
And sometimes people who are ina family, especially uh a wife
or somebody taking care of thefamily, taking care of the adult

(10:50):
kids, taking care of thegrandkids and the kids in the
same house, they're a ghost in ahouse.
They're into depression,dematic depression, some form of
depression.
They're uh they're living,walking zombies, if you will.
And so, how is that possiblewhen all you've got to do is

(11:12):
press on an app, pick up thephone, turn on the computer, get
an iPad.
Well, first of all, you have tobe understanding how that all
works.
And everybody's paranoid aboutthe scammers, they're gonna get
my information and they'rethey're gonna get my email and
my wipe out my bank account,which happens, it happens
because they're really nastypeople out there.

(11:32):
So, again, another layer ofisolation.
What it comes down to is thisdo you have a friend?
I mean, somebody you can justgo and hang out with.
You don't have to rush offsomewhere, you don't have to
say, okay, I've got 15 minutes,or I got I got I got home by you
know quarter two.
You can say, What's new?
Nice dress, yeah.

(11:54):
What do you think about thoseclouds?
How many times have you lookedup and said, What the heck is
going?
Look at that dragon goingthrough the cloud out there.
Oh my gosh.
No, instead, we're talkingabout the cloud that's in this
thing, the computer.
And I'm making a prediction,I've made it before.
The cloud is gonna lock up oneday.

(12:17):
It's going to lock up, andeverything you have on the
cloud.
Watch out, Eric Trump, orwhatever his last name is.
I understand he's a stepson.
Uh, whatever's gonna happen,when you have everything in the
cloud, it's gonna be lost.
And he's big into crypto,that's where that remark comes

(12:37):
from.
Uh Eric's not 98% of hisbusiness in the crypto, I'm
told, or the report said, Godbless him.
I hope he makes uh a gazilliondollars, which apparently is.
So long and the short of it isbe prepared, make friends.
We've talked about this before.
The pathway between twofriends, if it's not well

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traveled, grows up with weeds init.
And how many times left?
I bet you can count on one handas well as I could, the people
used to be really close to, andyou hardly ever talk to them
again.
They went their way, you wentyour way, and for whatever,
that's how life is.
And then you say, whateverhappened to, as we were talking

(13:20):
about before the show, somebodywe used to know from 20 years
ago.
20 years?
That's a long time.
Looking forward, yes, lookingback, it's yesterday.
So if you're out there, myfriends, let us know how you are
dealing with your sanity.
Do you meditate for 20 minutesa day?
No, it'll have to be hours,just small times, 20 minutes a

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day.
Do you go to a movie?
Do you walk in the park?
Do you go watch the little kidsplaying soccer in the in the
field?
You know, the teeny tiny guys,five years old, they're like,
you know, the herd instinctchasing that ball.
It is so funny to watch that.
Do you watch birds flyingthrough the air?
Do you watch, you know, uh youever wonder?
Look at a bumblebee going fromplant to plant and say, I never

(14:03):
saw these bees in the backyard,but look how many there are, you
know, my gosh.
And they don't stop, they theytend to hit every flower.
Do you are you curious?
I guess is the is the point.
Are you curious about life?
Or are you fed up with italready?
Are you in debt?
Way in debt, because uh debt isthe most, well, it's modern day

(14:24):
slavery.

Les (14:26):
Oh yeah.
Yeah, they say most people inthe country are in debt,
terribly in debt.

Douglas (14:31):
Right.
So, how to get out of debt?
There are ways and means.
Number one is don't cut upthose credit cards.
I'm not gonna tell you thatsilly stuff.
I'm gonna say put them out ofyour reach, and then try to say
to yourself, Do I do I reallyneed that pair of running shoes,
sports jacket, you know, fancyt-shirt, $75.

(14:53):
No, I don't.
And that's one of the thingsthat wealthy people ask
themselves all the time.
Do I need it or do I want it?
Right.

Les (15:03):
Yeah.

Douglas (15:04):
And if they want it, that means it's a negative cash
flow because they're gonna buyit, take it home, and put it in
the closet, never look at itagain.
If it's uh something they need,they're gonna put it on and use
it because it's necessary.
So whether it's another car,another house, or a hat, you
have to ask yourself on the wayto wealth, do I need it or do I
want it?
Can I do without it?

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How much money do I have?
How much money do I have insavings?
Okay, savings are like youryour 911 health kit in the
future.
The savings are going to giveyou a comfortable life when
you're my age.
If you don't have any savings,you're going to be working when
you're 70 or 75 for minimumwage.

(15:48):
So all these things are doingwhat?
They're collecting you, they'regiving you a critical mass to
answer the question, Less.
You know, can you be alone in acrowd?
Yes.
Can you be alone in yourthoughts and in your heart when
you're feeling sad?
Yes, it's part of human nature.
So, how do you get yourself outof it?
You are responsible for yourown happiness, my friends.

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No one else.
And if you don't believe that,you're going to find out the
hard way when you're alone in acrowd.
Sooner or later, all yourfriends will be gone.
By way of moving away, bynatural causes, by other means.
Sometimes, believe it or not, Ijust this never happens to me.

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Ha ha ha.
I I have people who used to bemy friends that aren't anymore.
What a shocker that is.
What did I do?
Well, they had enough of me,and it was like adios amigo.
And I go, whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa, what?
Okay, I'm being funny.
But the point is that you haveto learn how to live with
yourself, to be a friend toyourself, right?

(16:58):
To love yourself, and then youwon't be alone because you'll be
able to deal with people, andmost importantly, you won't be a
people pleaser.
You'll be able to say no.
You'll do what you want to, notdo things out of obligation
because somebody else hasimposed upon you.
And as you have that integrity,you are taking your life back.

Les (17:24):
And it's uh there was uh I was reading an article by this,
he's called a happinessprofessor.
Uh his professor, Arthur C.
Brooks, uh out of Harvard.
He also writes for TheAtlantic.
And he claims that he saidpeople are so uh they're so
afraid of being bored, sothey're constantly being
distracted.
They're going to the I I do itmyself sometimes.
If I have five minutes, I'll goto my phone.
And I'm like, wait a minute.

(17:45):
And I remember years ago when Ifirst started, you mentioned
uh, thank you for mentioning uhmeditation because one of the my
mother got us into it becauseshe suffered from chemical
depression and it cured herdepression.
Meditation cured her.
Uh and then she, I said, wow,if it can help my mom, you know,
it can help me.
So we got into it.
And you know, we're going to betalking later on about this
artist, uh, Claude Monet, veryworld-famous artist.

(18:08):
Uh, there was another artist, Idon't know if you're familiar
with him, his name is JohnHarris.
He's a prolific science fictionillustrator.
Uh, he did many, many, manypaperback books.
And his stuff, when you look athis stuff, Doug, it's you you
would swear that this man hadvisited these places.
And when they asked him, howcan you paint so prolifically?
He said, I meditate.
And he said, I learned to dothis through, he said, I would

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see these things as if I werethere.
He said, So I could then putthem on canvas.
And when you look at his stuff,you go, wow.
And uh, the Harvard professor,Arthur C.
Brooks, he says, you know, whenwe do meditate and we have
these moments of just stillness,he said, it unlocks a great
amount of creativity and itactivates a powerful brain
network that might be aprotection against depression.
This is the Harvard professor,so they're even admitting it at

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Harvard, no, this is actuallyworking.
Uh and you mentionedagriculture.
So, you know, I have a lot ofclients that get they're getting
now into farming, they'reactually converting their
backyards into growingvegetables.
And I asked them, how are youdoing?
They said, We love it.
It's like calming, it'ssoothing, it grounds us, and
we're growing stuff, and we'reactually eating the stuff we
grow.
So I guess uh there are ways toget back that we don't really

(19:13):
think of today.

Douglas (19:14):
Well, my comment about agriculture
hand, you immersed your hands inthe soil.
My mentor Ross Peterson saidthat my wife ought to do that
because she would get what wouldbe a healing.
And now with the grounding uhaccepted, you know, the theory
about grounding being good foryou, walking around without
shoes on the ground is reallyhealthy for you.

(19:38):
Walking around with shoes allthe time is not healthy for you.
Okay, so get over it, walk outon the grass.
And you know, when people youget on the grass or down by the
by the seashore, what do youwhat's the first thing you do?
You bend your toes and you kindof massage the soles of your
feet.
That's how you avoid plantarfasciitis.

(20:00):
Oh, that's a great that'sthat's a great evil for anybody
who's ever had it, they knowwhat I'm talking about.
For those people who haven't,they haven't got a clue, but
someday you will.
However, plantar fasciitis, putthat on the the on the on the
uh on the no-no list, avoid atall costs, kind of thing.
So getting back to getting backto meditation, we know chemical

(20:22):
changes occur in your body whenyou meditate.
Okay, when you meditate, whenyou're when your conscious mind,
they call it the monkey mind,is all over the place.
It's like making a fist.
Oh, you know what happens whenyou make a fist?
The circulation in your handgoes away.
Oh, and what happens after awhile?

(20:44):
Your hand gets numb, it getstingly, and then when you pry it
open, because you have to, ithurts.
That's the same for your entirebody.
Oh your entire body is inknots.
People say, Oh, my stomach's aknots, oh my back's a knots, oh

(21:05):
blah blah blah.
It's true because when yourmuscles tighten up and you don't
even know it, remember thearteries go through the muscles.
Lass knows that he's a masterat his trade in massage and
misuse, and that cuts thecirculation off.
And when you cut off thecirculation, it's like, hey,

(21:26):
look, he's got a he hit his headand he's bleeding from the
head.
Quick, get the tourniquet, putit around his neck.
Stops the bleeding, but itkills you.
So the longer the shorter it isthat chemical changes occur
when you're meditate.
Getting back to an artist who'spainting futuristic views, like

(21:46):
the ones behind me are youless.
These are people when he says,you know, I meditate and I feel
like I've been there.
Well, you were.
We call that soul travel, wecall that remote viewing, we
call that mind projection.
Those are all terms that whenyou first hear them, you go

(22:08):
like, Well, mind projection,what is that?
I mean, my mind's in my head,you know.
No, it's not.
Your brain is in your head,your mind is all around your
consciousness.
However, you can transportyourself like in a dream.
And people who uh paintfuturistic views, I'm convinced,
even though they might notagree, that they are touching

(22:29):
upon the soul energy, they arecasting their thoughts, their
mind, their vision beyond thepresent moment, and they're
seeing amazing things.
And as they do, wow, they writethem down, they they sketch
them out really fast so theydon't forget it, and they dream

(22:49):
about things and they create it.
And of course, as your mind,which goes out at random access,
starts to be focused intodirect focus or direct access,
you're going to keep going backto those pleasant places, those
planes and dimensions above us.
That's why to learn about soultravel, mind projection, remote

(23:15):
viewing, astral traveling, allthose names are referring to
what?
Not your physical body's goinganywhere.
It's it's stuck, it's it'sdense, it sits on a chair or
lays on the floor or walks, youknow, you're you're stuck.
You walk on the ground.
But your mind, in a moment, asyou train yourself, my friends,

(23:36):
you can zoom out, grab someinformation, and come back in,
not warp speed, but somethingthat's much faster and go much
further.
The speed of thought.
But the monkey mind has to becontrolled, it has to be set of

(23:57):
random access, it has to bebrought down, going to sleep
almost.
And then that other mind, it'smuch more powerful, we call that
the elephant mind, is able togo straight and steady without
distractions.
So, as such, you pick upinformation.
Your mom found that it calmedher down because she was having
a chemical difficulty when shewas meditating.

(24:19):
Guess what?
The thyroid wasn't all uptight,the pancreas wasn't tight, the
liver and the other organs inthe endocrine system were
balancing and secretinghormones, and chemically, you're
balanced again.
That's why the sound of ohm orvowel sounds or musical sounds

(24:43):
or tuning forks or those singingbowls are all important because
they're putting a vibrationout, and your body is like a
tuning fork, it's a receptivething, it starts to vibrate at
that frequency.
And as such, you kind of golike, wow, that feels good.

(25:03):
Where'd that come from?
Well, the frequencies that aregoing through our body all the
time these days from theinternet.
How many satellites do we havebeaming down at us now?
Yeah, just a minute.
I used to make fun of peoplewho would put on those, you
know, tinfoil hats.
You know, it might be time totry it out.

(25:26):
Little pointy ones.
Absolutely.
Get the little antennas on,you'll pick up some of that
shadowy energy from the earth.
But anyway.

Les (25:39):
Well, that's interesting because you know, it's I
remember reading an article byum it was a statement that I
think the the great uh person uhwhose name is Yogananda.
Uh he mentioned something aboutthey asked him, they said,
What's the you know, what's thebest way to meditate?
And he said, if you noticewhatever you're doing when you
really love something, timebecomes irrelevant.
It just like flies.
He said, That's a natural formof meditation.

(26:00):
You just get lost in whatyou're doing.
I never realized that.
I thought meditation had toalways be a verbal sounding
mantra, but uh obviously not.

Douglas (26:09):
I uh disagree and I have lots of respect for our
friends in faraway places whobelieve sitting with your legs
crossed, with making littlesymbols with your hands and
saying om, om, om while yourback is killing you.
Remember a couple of weeks ago,the origin of the term om came
from oh, ow, ooh, ow.

(26:34):
Remember?
Very true, yeah.
I used to hate meditationclass.
Exactly.
That's not meditation, that'svegetation because you're stuck
in the physical.
I mean, teachers, God blessthem, uh are attempting to teach
you to overcome the physicalpain, the carnal influences, the

(26:55):
desires of the flesh.
Well, when I get hungry, Igotta have a hot dog.
I'm sorry.
I don't eat hot dogs much.
But anyway, the long and theshort of that is the answer is
when you're in what I call theever-present moment, it's the
same thing.
Now, spiritual teachers willalways teach you the basic,

(27:20):
fundamental, spiritual,practical aspects of your
spiritual being and thepractical disciplines, if you
will, or they'll be able to tellyou and demonstrate and inform
you and teach you something likethat in the spiritual world.
That's a true master, trueteacher, Robert, if you will.
So, what is he saying?

(27:42):
Well, when you're having funand time goes by real fast, you
are in that ever-present moment.
It's kind of like you know,you're driving along, and all of
a sudden you're like, Oh mygod, how'd I get here?
Just driven 10 blocks and youdon't remember.
Yeah, oh God.
Well, that's where you find outabout this thing called the
subconscious mind or the supersubconscious mind, because it's

(28:05):
in total control of the vehiclewhile your mind's out lally
gogging on to the universe orhaving a romantic interlude with
somebody, or remembering somewonderful place where you had a
nice meal, or where you'regoing, something, something,
something.
But it's like walking down thebeach and you look back over
your shoulder and you realizeyou've been walking for five or
ten minutes and you have nocomprehension of taking those

(28:29):
steps.
You look back, there's thefootsteps in the sand as far as
you can see.
And you know, how did thathappen?
You're in what is open-eyedmeditation, you're in conscious
meditation, you are allowingyour mind to go into an alpha
state or other brainwave downlower while you're walking
along.

(28:49):
And did you know?
You probably heard of thisbefore because so wise last.
Back in the day when uh whenthe samurai soldiers used to go
to battle, they would walk allnight in a state of I'm gonna
use this word, hypnosis, whichis another word for mesmerism,
which is another word formeditation.
And as they were walking alongat night, they were sound

(29:12):
asleep.
Wow.
So the next morning when theyarrived at the battlefield, they
woke up ready for battle, theywere rested, even though they
had been walking all night long.
Those are true stories, and yougo back and you talk to the
teachers who talk about the youknow, samurai and ancient
warfare, they'll tell you aboutthis ability.

(29:32):
So, uh metaphysically speaking,and the understanding of uh
meditation is not what you'retold it is, it's what you
naturally do.
Like when you just sit there atthe computer, you're maybe
gonna play some you know, sneakon at a game of solitaire or
something, and all of a sudden athought comes in your head, and

(29:55):
it's the answer to the questionor concern you have.
You've been in and Meditate ameditative state, a state of
alpha, a state of alteredconsciousness, altered
consciousness, somewhere awayfrom the monkey mind, somewhere
closer to the elephant mind, butin control.
And you'll feel good about it.

(30:16):
You'll say, I mean, there aregeniuses that sit there and they
create things all day long.
How do they do that?
Well, their conscious mind ison this side, pressing the
buttons, using the mouse, andtheir other mind, almost like
their amidex, is out visitingrealms far and near.
And they don't know the way.

(30:37):
I mean, you know, there's nomaps in the spiritual world, by
the way, my friends.
If anybody says to you, youknow, talk about your blueprint
in life and stuff, anybody saysto you, yeah, I I got there's a
map you can find your way to thehigher realms, to the the tree
of life, to uh the astralplanes, to uh um you know the
Akashic records or the Akashicfield that's now popular as

(31:00):
popular, they're not telling youthe truth because there is no
path.

Les (31:04):
Uh-huh.

Douglas (31:05):
How does how does you you know less wow?
This could be a riddle.
Okay, everybody, you believeyou have thoughts.
Oh, yeah, I have thoughts allthe time.
All right, tell me this.
Where did they come from?
And where did they go?
And when you have a bunch ofthoughts together, you have a

(31:26):
train of thoughts.
How did that happen?
George Carlin, right?
So the point is, like, we don'tunderstand even how we think,
we just know we think.
We know we have thoughtsbecause they change so fast.
Can you slow down?

(31:47):
Can you have one thought at atime?
Matter of fact, that's the onlytime you can have a thought is
one at a time.
Think about that, how profoundthat is.
And you heard it first here onthe slow report.

Les (32:04):
So I've got a quick question for you.
So, why is it when they say youhave a problem, sleep on it?
And lo and behold, you wake upand you go, Eureka, I've got the
answer.
How does that happen?
Hey.

Douglas (32:18):
As the godfather would say, Hey, give me a I want to
tell you something, Sonny.
Well, when you go to sleep, whatare you doing?
You're changing your mind,you're washing your mind, you're
putting your mind at rest.
In other words, all the worriesand the distractions in the
monkey mind.
I mean, there are people whoteach how to meditate that you

(32:43):
cleanse the mind, you silencethe mind, you calm the mind.
And that's their big that's it,that's their big lesson.
It's just to calm yourself downso you're not distressed,
distracted, running a runningamok.
Okay, that's a good thing.
That's a good place to start,it's not the end of it all.
But so when you go to sleep andyou think about what happens?

(33:04):
Well, when you sleep and youdream at least four dreams every
night, mostly you don'tremember them, like one or two
or maybe more.
What happens?
Well, out here behind me iswhere all thoughts live.
Oh, it's called the AkashicField or the Akashic Record or
the library.

(33:25):
And what happens is when youhave, let's say you have a
problem where you need to bake acake, and you've never done it
before, or you want to create anew kind of cake, a different
cake, a special cake, and yourack your mind.
You go, How can I how can I howcan I?
Well, you go to sleep, and nextmorning you wake up and you

(33:47):
say, Raisins.
Raisins and cake?
Why, why didn't I think of thatbefore?
That's a very good idea.
And what you've done is youwent out here to right over
here, I think, you know,somewhere there's a little place
where all the bakers who'vepassed on, they're kind of
hanging out there in the baker'srealm.

(34:08):
And so you find your way tothis place where all the bakers
are, and you say, Hey, uh, Idon't know how to make a cake
that well.
My cakes usually lean over alittle bit, or they're kind of,
you know, but I want to havesomething special for my friend.
And so you're giving up, youknow, got a big baking soda, a
little sugar, you know, a littlehoney in it, and some special

(34:32):
raisins, put the raisins in abowl, let them um, I'm gonna say
marinate, but let them suck upa bowl of water and get nice and
plump, and then you put them inat the last minute, and you
stir them up and put them in thefruit in the stove in the oven
so that they at the last minutethey're nice and moist, they
don't explode or bake orwhatever.
And and you come by and say,Why did I think of that before?

(34:53):
Oh my god.
I know everybody's saying,Douglas, do you make cakes?
No, I don't, but I'm justtuning in to wherever those
bakers are, and those images Ijust told you were coming to my
mind one after the other.
That's a form of meditation,but that's the way it works.
Even if you have a problem withyour car, the thing is there's

(35:14):
no roadmap, there's no doorsthat you go and knock on, and
and there's no people standingthere, you know, with signs this
way to the dream fix your carplace.
You go there because you havean issue.
You're focusing your mind, andyou're going to that place where
that knowledge exists.

(35:36):
Now, I'm kind of making funwhen I say all the bakers live
in one place.
I the motorcycle enthusiastslive in another, and the guys
with the black jacketmotorcycles they live in
another, maybe live in thebasement, I don't know, but
these these guys they live indifferent this consciousness
lives in different places,exist, I should say.
It always did.
You know, when somebody comesup with an invention, they

(35:59):
didn't invent it, it alreadyexisted somewhere, they just
figured it out, they just sawit, but the invention was
already there.
Before somebody invented uhinvented electricity, right?
Right sin, whatever,Westinghouse.
Well, electricity was alreadythere.
It wasn't like they createdsomething, they just discovered

(36:23):
it.
And as such, that's what youhave to keep in mind, my
friends, that when you go tosleep on things or when you lay
down and meditate on something,you are letting your mind drift
out to where that that thatcritical mass of thought exists
and you're tapping into it.
It's kind of like Google, youknow what I mean?
You know, you go into Googleand you say, Tell me about

(36:44):
Antarctica, and all of a sudden,this information comes up about
Antarctica.
Well, where did that come from?
Where is that information?
How many of us who do a Googlesearch care about where it
exists?
Who put it there?
Is it you know we don't care,just give me that information.
So that's how it is, last.

(37:06):
When you when you uh sleep onsomething, your mind goes out,
especially when you really,really need to know something.
That's when you're focused andmight take a little effort.
Don't try too hard because whenthe heart, you know, it's like
squeezing your fist, right?
Let it go.
Open your hand, and it comes inyour hand.

(37:26):
If if you have your handsqueezed, nothing can come in
it, but you open it up, itcomes.
So the one the short of that isthat you can get stuff
anything.
Remember this always, myfriends.
This is what I started mymetaphysical life with because
my sherry, my daughter Sherry,had issues, she was in an
institution.
Nobody could tell us what todo.

(37:49):
In my mind, I always thoughtsomething could be done, but
everybody said she's havingconvulsions.
Give her medication, get onwith your lives.
Worst decision I made.
I'm gonna take that responsiblyfor myself.
My wife was brokenhearted whenCherry went to the institution.
Back in the day, it was calledthe home.

(38:09):
But in any event, she was therefor four years until this guy
met Ross Peterson.
And I met Ross Peterson throughsomebody at the Toronto Star
newspaper giving me a book aboutEdgar Casey.
It's called There is a River.
And I read that, and then now Ihad hope.
Now there's gotta be somebodylike Ross, like Edgar Casey.

(38:32):
And one day went upstairs,turned on the TV without any
effort, thinking, other I wasrobotically doing.
And there on the program wasthe great famous uh intuitive
Ross Peter Peterson from Flint,Michigan.
And right away we gotta seethis man.
And not too long later, guesswhat?

(38:53):
Sherry came home because hetold us in that moment of
meditation all the things thatwere wrong, but in specifically
that her neck was the bones inher neck were putting pressure
on the brainstem.
That's why she was havingconvulsions.

Les (39:08):
Wow.

Douglas (39:09):
Brought her home, met Don Vigiani, a famous uh
chiropractor.
One session and no moreconvulsions.
Wow.
Yeah.
So how many how many times doesthat happen?
Is that a random chance?
No, I've helped many peoplealong the way with children like
that, as you have in yourtherapy less.
And so everybody finds, if youknow, well, you don't know, but

(39:31):
if you expect to find asolution, there is an
alternative, just takes a whileto find it, but it's already
there.
That's called faith.
You have to believe that thesolution is already there, the
answer is already there, and howyou get it?
Well, rein in that monkey mind,get that elephant mind, keep

(39:52):
going, non-stop, unafraid, andyou'll get that answer.
Somewhere out there, there's ananswer to every question,
there's an answer to everydisease that we call incurable.
What it should do, you say, iswe have a disease that we
haven't yet found the remedyfor.
That's the right answer.
It's not incurable.

(40:13):
Remember, words have power, myfriend.
It's not incurable because howmany thus, you're a medical guy.
How many times have you heard,oh, look, a new discovery?
Some un incurable incurabledisease has been obliterated.
It's it's fixed.
Well, if it's incurable, howcould you find a remedy for it?

(40:34):
All right.

Les (40:37):
Yeah, that's great.
All right.
Well, after a short break, wewill be back with news and
views, and I will share my storyof Kasim Hafiz.
He was a jihadist who became aZionist.
Pretty interesting.

Douglas (40:49):
Wow, I can't wait to hear that.
We're right back.

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Douglas (41:48):
It's great.
What happened?
What what was it like lastnight?

Les (42:02):
Uh well, a friend of mine, she's uh her name is Shoshana,
and uh she's uh she's a singer.
Anyway, she uh she's an activeuh in her in her um faith.
And she sent me, she said,would you like to see because
she knows I keep track of worldnews and things like that.
And she said, I have thisfriend of mine, his name is
Kasim Hafiz.
He was originally fromPakistan.
He now lives here in the UnitedStates, and he was at one time

(42:24):
a jihadist, a terrorist, and heconverted to Zionism.
I said, How?
She said, Well, if you want tofind out, show up at the at his
lecture.
I said, I'd love to.
So I brought a couple offriends with me, and we sat
there, and I was amazed at theamount, I didn't expect it.
There was a lot of securitythere.
They were expecting a lot oftrouble.
And we did have about 20protesters who showed up.
They were peaceful, but theywere making their you know their

(42:45):
message known.
And hey, you know, there's freespeech, so let him go.
Uh, but uh Kasim was a veryunusual man.
He was raised in Pakistan.
Uh, and his story goessomething like this.
He was uh brought into theIslamic faith.
He was, but he was a rat, hewas very radicalized.
Uh and he um was very active uhin being uh anti-Zionist until

(43:07):
one day somebody gave him a bookuh that was written, I think,
by Alan Dershwitz called A Casefor Israel.
So he read it, he said, This isgreat.
I'm gonna just prove thatZionism is wrong and we're on
the right, and I'll prove itthrough this book.
And he said, I sat down andread the book, and he was like,
hmm, this is interesting.
I it brought it made him startthinking in a different way.
He said, Well, the only way Ican prove this, I have to go to

(43:28):
Israel.
Because, you know, this couldall be lies.
So I have to prove it to myselfin all good conscience.
I'm gonna go to Israel.
And he he he brought in a lotof humor into it as well.
Uh God bless him.
Uh, and he said, you know, theyuh at the time, you know, he
was now living in uh in England,and uh he said, they tell him,
you know, when you're travelingto Israel, they have heightened

(43:49):
security.
So when you encounter security,please be honest.
So he got there and uh he said,I was honest with security.
He said, Well, you know, whyare you here?
And he said, I'm here toinspect your country to make
sure that uh to to to provemyself right.
He said, Well, that ended upwith about an eight-hour stay
with security.

Douglas (44:06):
Finding all about the country and how safe for it.

Les (44:10):
But he was there for quite a while and he realized that he
said, He said, We were lied to.
And he said, This is they'renothing like they present the
that they were presented to be.
He said, What have I been doingwith my life?
He said, This is what's goingon.
He said he had more inquestions.
You can tell he's a veryintelligent man.
A little strange listening to aman who looked very Middle
Eastern, uh, with a Britishaccent.

(44:31):
I didn't expect that.
Beautiful British accent.
Yeah.
Uh he's now residing in theUnited States, by the way.
Uh, so he went back to hisfamily.
Uh, he also went back toPakistan, and he was he said,
Listen, we we were wrong, butthis is something, there's
something going on here.
We've been lied to.
And they wouldn't hear none ofit.
He said, Well, if you don'tbelieve me, go to Israel

(44:53):
yourself.
Prove me wrong.
He said, There's something,there's a lot of
miscommunication here.
I don't, I'm not sure what'shappening.
He said, the long and short ofit was he said, I was disowned
by my family.
He said, but I became reallyinterested in you know, truth
and justice.
And he said, This is wrong.
He said, These people were notthe evil, horrible people that
we were taught to be uh to tohate.
Um, and he said, and on mymission, he said he's in the

(45:13):
media now, and he said, and mymission is to just educate
people and say, you know, gothere, listen, encounter the
people yourself, see it foryourself.
Don't believe the media, eitherhe said, I don't care what side
of the media you're on, left orright.
He said, go there yourself andeducate yourself.
Uh and there is a matter offact, he belongs to an educ uh a
situation now, a um uh abusiness where they actually pay
for your plane ticket to gothere, they'll actually pay for

(45:35):
your trip so you can see foryourself.
Uh, so he was a veryinteresting man to speak with,
but um the uh it was a shame howhe was just totally written off
by his entire family.
He paid a very high price.
I was just like uh he wasmentioning the um uh his father
was one of the co-founders ofHamas.
Uh he was he was gonna be thehe was the crown prince, and now

(45:56):
he's living here in the UnitedStates, and he was he was also
brainwashed by his people.
And uh he said, you know, I waswrong.
Uh and so he's been totallydisowned.
He's trying to spread themessage.
You know, we can all get along.
It's just who is spreading thedisinformation?
Who is spreading the lies?
He said, because we're all thesame people.
He said, we all bleed red, weall have a have a right to be

(46:16):
here.
Uh but he said there's so much,he said, the trouble is there's
so much misinformation outthere.
People are being, they're justjumping the gun and learning how
to hate.
And he said, There's really noreason for it.
When you understand the truth,the truth will set you free.
So it's a very interesting,beautiful experience.
Um uh, but he's he discussedsome you know disturbing trends
that are still out there.
But he said, this is nothingnew, this has been going on for

(46:36):
centuries and centuries.
He said, I don't know.
He said, I'm doubtful if we'llever get rid of it because every
generation has a challenge withit.

Douglas (46:42):
How old a man is he?

Les (46:44):
He's in his forties, he's about 42 right now.
Uh very well spoken, very welleducated.
Uh but he he started inPakistan, he moved to British
British, uh, the British Isles.
He said, The faith, funny thingabout being in Britain, he
said, you know, you move thereand he said, you never feel as
if you're a British person.
He said, because the the hesaid, we my grandfather, he

(47:05):
said, worked for a Britishcompany for his entire life and
he never spoke any English.
He said, we never assimilated.
And he said, I'm not sure why.
He said, I think it was bothends.
He said it was partly myculture and partly the European
culture.
He said, because the Europeanculture, we we didn't really
feel like we fit in.
Uh I said, so then he said he Iwanted to go to, he said, I
wanted to experience moreWestern civilization.
So I went to Canada.

(47:25):
And then he said, and then Ifinally came to the United
States.
And he said, the United Statesis a he said is a very unique
country.
He said, because you truly feelyou are an American.
Well, you're welcomed in.
You want to assimilate into thecountry.
He said, we can maintain ourown culture if we want, but you
become an American and youbecome proud of being here.
Uh and he said that's a veryunique thing in the world.
He said, for any of the thoseout there who sort of have been

(47:48):
well traveled, he said, you'renot going to find that anywhere
except in the United States.
Uh so the man was reallyeye-opening.

Douglas (47:54):
That makes pretty much uh pretty good sense because
what is America?
A land of immigrants.
Yeah.
So naturally, you know, what'sone more?
Right.
So uh it's interesting that,you know, um, I suspect that uh
the reason he's an advocate nowlater in life is because he was

(48:17):
such a um what would you callit, a gung-ho kind of uh young
man, you know, uh fed the lies.
Uh I often wondered back in theday when, you know, there were
those suicide bombers.
And uh it was like, why wouldsomebody perfectly healthy leave

(48:38):
their family from differentparts of the world, go and live
in a cave, no inside plumbing,if you know what I mean, and
they would let themselves beradicalized, conned in, uh or
perhaps persuaded to the nthdegree that they should go and

(48:59):
kill other people in the name ofGod.
Well, I never accepted that.
Like there must have been someother reason.
Maybe they were beingblackmailed, and maybe they were
just told, well, you you gotthe backpack, but the guy beside
you is going to be the onethat's gonna blow himself up.
So you just you just take thisdown with them, and then when

(49:22):
the person gets close by remotecontrol, they get blown up.
I mean, people who send peopleoff to you know commit suicide
to be a weapon, they've got tobe monstrous themselves.
I mean, somebody I just learnedthis recently about during the
Second World War, the Japanesebonsai pilots, you know, the

(49:44):
suicide pilots who would flytheir planes into uh fly their
you know their their bomb-loadedplanes into ships.
That program didn't last toolong.
It was a total disaster, pardonthe pun.
Uh, I'm sure there would bepeople who would chicken out,
you know, like, gee whiz, uh Mr.
Emperor, I was there goingtowards the ship, but something

(50:06):
happened.
Uh, canopy flew off, and I, youknow, fell out of the plane.
I'm making that up, and that'sprobably, I don't mean to
disrespect anybody who paid thatultimate price because they
sincerely thought they weremaking uh some some effort to
the war, but common sense isthat's not one way to win a war.
Matter of fact, nobody wins awar.

(50:29):
Everybody loses.
If you look what's happening inRussia and Ukraine, uh the
reason uh President Putin is outtalking and being friends with
uh the North Korean presidentand the president China and the
president India, they had a bigAxis meeting and watch out,
everybody.
The world is being uh dividedup, they're going one way, and

(50:52):
North America is all on its own,except with our allies in
what's called the Western world.
So why is Putin out catering toother people?
Because he needs to.
Or was losing the war.
This little country, Ukraine,is beating off the big bad

(51:16):
Russian bear.
And now, just my mind's goinghere that now Putin is going
about um soliciting friendshipswith other strong men, as they
call themselves in the world, sothey can divide the world up
themselves.
But Putin started this, and waris not the way to prosper.

(51:38):
Nobody wins in war, as theysay.
Only after the fact, everybodysays that.
You know, we should never havethis war, it's never started.
Okay, so back in the day whenthis young man you're talking
about was lined up to be aterrorist, what was in his mind?
What did they tell him to putsuch hate into his mind that he
would be um a terrorist?

(52:00):
I hope he didn't do anythingreally bad, but you know, as
advocate was somebody who's beenuh the the perpetrator.
So here he is, you know, thethe uh terrorist now becoming
the peacemaker.
The pendulum swings back andforth.
This is karma.
So when you saw him, I'm gonnaget back to the point.

(52:21):
He obviously was an impassionedman, he's estranged from his
family.
He's trying to spread the word.
And last night the securityforces were out in force.
Were they protecting him orwere they protecting the crowd
from each other?

Les (52:42):
Well, they had it was they had outside security and
interior security that wereconstantly pacing the aisles
looking at it.
It was a little unnerving.
I'm thinking, why are they hewas like, boy, and he said, No,
we're he said we have to takethese precautions.
He said, because we've hadtrouble before.
Uh, but he uh he got hisinformation from his family, and
of course, and you know, who'snot gonna respect your
grandfather or your grandmotherwhen they constantly tell you

(53:02):
this stuff, like my young man.
So he said, I didn't questionit until I read that book by
Alan Dershowitz saying a casefor Israel.
He wasn't saying he was tellingyou like a typical person who
teaches law, which AlanDershowitz does, he said, This
is the case, this is theevidence, make up your own mind.
And he said, That's what reallygot him was like he's allowing
me to think for myself and makeup my own mind, which then

(53:23):
enticed him to go to Israel andsay, Let me really see this for
myself.
And he came back going, Wow,you know, I'm a changed man.
I've got to tell my and hewanted to liberate his family,
saying, Why harbor all this hatein your heart?
He said it's toxic.

Douglas (53:38):
Well, I'm glad you had that experience.
And again, you know, you'reabsolutely right, Les.
I mean, you know, hate getspassed down, you know, hate is
learned.
Of course, if you're in a realbad situation where your house
is being blown up and yourrelatives are being uh destroyed
or murdered or whatever, youknow, this is that's firsthand.

(53:59):
That's pretty that's traumatic,and that's really hard to get
past.
But it's a spiritual lesson.
And it to all of us whounderstand that war doesn't
profit anybody, and for thosewho are eager and ready to go to
war, you are foolish.
I understand that there's thatwarrior mentality.
Part of us uh in human reigns,we have we have that part of us

(54:21):
that are warriors, and they haveto go and experience that
thing.
Whether it's on the footballfield or the battlefield,
they're still at war, and theyexperience those I'm gonna say
those dynamics.
But uh again, hate is hate ishate, and uh uh somehow he broke
away from the chain.
I don't know the man, I don'tknow anything about him.

(54:41):
I'm just uh relying on yourexperience and uh go there less.
You're pretty brave.
I mean, you know, you walkedinto the lion's stand there.
Did they give you the wand orpatch you down?

Les (54:53):
I didn't expect this security, it was a little
unnerving.
I'm looking at my friendsgoing, We really want to be
here.
We're expecting some kind ofbomber to show, but uh it was
like, well, we're here, let's doit, let's see what's going on.
And we because our curiositygot the better of us.
I wanted to know what was inthis man's mind.
I thought, what you know, whatwhat happened to him?
I have a I have just an openmind and open heart.
I want to see, I always want tohear both sides because there's

(55:14):
always some truth ineverything.
There's nobody's absolutelytotally right.
And uh, but uh he was afascinating guest, and uh he's
he's his calling is to just tryto help people learn the truth.
He said, you know, nobody'sperfect.
He said, Well, no, I'm notsaying that there, you know,
there's perfection in anybody.
We're all in process, we're allin progress in some way, shape,
or form.

(55:34):
But he said, at least have anopen mind and hear the other
side.
I say a lot of times, Doug, uh,if you go to some of these
media sites that everybody'sfamiliar with, I won't name any
one particular, but you'll seethese little vignettes or these
little videos that last aboutmaybe 30 seconds, and you'll see
something dastardly happeningto somebody else.
And then you look at thecomments, and some of the

(55:54):
comments are yeah, kill him,what is he doing?
And he needs a punch in theface.
And then you see the moreintelligent ones going, well,
what exactly is happening here?
Because I'm only seeing about15% of the video, 15 seconds of
the video.
What actually caused this tohappen?
No comment, no answer.
So they're they want to get youand incite you and get out
there and kill and join the mob.
No, no, no, no.
And that's what happened withthis man.

(56:16):
He was like, No, no, no, let mehang back before I hurt
anybody.
Obviously, the man had a kindheart.
Uh and he at the time hethought he was doing the right
thing by hating the Zionists.
He said, This is what I have todo to honor my family.
But he realized it wasn't theway, and he paid a very, very
high price for that.
I mean, imagine losing yourentire family.
I mean, just they just shunyou.

(56:36):
You're now dead to them.
And he was willing to pay thatprice.

Douglas (56:40):
Well, I can think that he's in good company with a lot
of people in the past who didthe same thing.
No matter what religious pointof view they were in the past,
there were always the leaderswho usually ended up being
shunned by their family and uhshunned by their friends,
betrayed by their friends.
And we're talking about somepretty serious spiritual

(57:02):
leaders.
They all have that, I guessit's the path, that's how it's
done.
But you know, I don't knowthem, I don't know the man.
I just was curious about yourexperience last night.
You know, uh I don'tnecessarily like to put myself
in harm's way, but you uh wentthere and you found out a lot
about this person, and it's avery good lesson you put

(57:23):
forward, everybody.
You know, like if you'relistening to the news, you have
two ears and one mouth.
So listen to both sides, butdon't use your mouth faster than
you can use your hearing oryour ears.
And I'll tell you, uh I am abig advocate for these news

(57:44):
videos and the things that comeon social media.
There should be somewhere onthere a little flag of the
country of origin that thesemessages started from.
Because there are people infaraway places, it's their job.
It's called propaganda, andthey're there to get everybody

(58:06):
fighting because they win.
You're not paying attentionwhen you're fighting.
So, anyway, that's a lesson onthat one.
And I think uh, you know, for aman who wants to preach love
and now uh make up for perhapsthe shortcomings of his early
life, sounds like he's on thespiritual path.

Les (58:23):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
I came across um this littlehumorous statement done by this
person who was uh studyingtheology, and it's this ties in
with uh fear andmisunderstanding and
miscommunication.
And he goes on to say, back inmy excuse me, back in my
Christian days when I wasstudying theology, I was reading
some commentary on the oldtestament angelic experiences.

(58:46):
And one of the best moments Ihad in my studies was when I
learned that the angelic readingof Be Not Afraid in the
original language, context andstorytelling style pretty much
translated into the angelsaying, Please stop screaming,
it's fine.

Douglas (59:05):
Oh my god, that was hysterical.
It must be awful noisy upstairswith everybody screaming down
here now.
Oh my god, help me, help me,help me.
That's a good thing.

Les (59:16):
I've met people who have had angelic experiences, you
know.
My clients, some of my clients,and they said, you know, what
is that?
And it it is terrible, butimagine these primitive people
back in the day, you know, thesedesert dwellers who are just
living a very simple life,seeing this angelic, seeing
Gabriel Shimmer going, oh mygod, stop screaming.
Oh boy, you know, it's itbrings back the humanity of it

(59:37):
all.

Douglas (59:38):
I'm up for that.
So um we're gonna take anotherbreak, I guess.
But tell me, uh, you got a poemor something that very
meaningful to you.

Les (59:48):
Yeah, it was something uh you know, it's there's some
powerful people out there whowrite things down every once in
a while.
And this is a little bit of a Icall it a poem.
Um and it goes on to buff it'sbasically has to do with the
existence of God.
You're ever doubt the existenceof God, and if God loves you,
say do you've heard it athousand times that God loves
you, and you nod, yeah, yeah, heloves everybody.

(01:00:09):
Saying that just becomesgeneric.
It truly doesn't really moveyou, it doesn't really make you
wonder.
Because somewhere along the wayit lost its meaning, because
privilege is invisible to thosewho have it.
But stop, really stop for asecond and think.
God is all powerful andperfect, he can do whatever he
wants when he wants.
He didn't have to create theuniverse because he doesn't

(01:00:32):
really need it, but he did.
And because it is in his natureto create out of love, God has
no other reason for creatingthan his love and goodness.
Creatures came into existencewhen the key of love opened his
hand, according to St.
Thomas Aquinas.
Have you ever considered thefact that you didn't have to
exist?

(01:00:52):
You are not a necessary part ofcreation.
The sun doesn't need you, thegalaxies don't depend upon you,
heaven would still be perfectwithout you.
Neither you nor I areessential, and still he put you
in it.
So, yeah, God loves you.
But listen closely.
You didn't have to be.
The only real reason why youare is because the eternal God,

(01:01:15):
outside of time, looked acrossthe ages and saw your face and
said, I do not want a universewithout you in it.
That's it.
That's the gospel before thecross.
That's creation before Genesis.
That's love before light evertouched the deep.
God does not want a universewithout you in it.
Read that again.

(01:01:35):
He could have made stars, seas,angels, and skipped you.
But he didn't.
Not because you earned it, notbecause you deserved it, but
because he is love.
Excuse me.
And he chose you.
But no, God loves you, it isn'tcheap, it isn't cliche.
It's the most terrifying,wonderful, holy thing ever

(01:01:57):
spoken.
You're here for a reason.
You have a purpose.
Make it count.
If being chosen by God to existisn't the biggest example of
love, then I don't know what is.
God loves you, and do not letyourself ever think otherwise.
Sorry, it just gets me.

Douglas (01:02:16):
Here, here.
We'll be right back after ashort break.

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Douglas (01:03:27):
We're going to answer you again to your questions here
on the chat when the wizardstarts uh popping them up here.
We're here.
What are your comments tonight?
I hope you like the show.
I hope you like that amazing uhpoem that uh Les just read.
Very, very wonderfully read.
Remember, you're here for apurpose, always.

(01:03:47):
It's a very meaningfulstatement indeed.
So let us know what you think.
Pop in and uh send us somethingin the chat, and we'll get to
your question.
We have a little bit longer inthe show.
I know, Les, you wanted to getto either Antarctica or we're
gonna talk about thatimpressionist, that amazing

(01:04:07):
fellow in where was it again?
France.

Les (01:04:12):
Well, there's a lot of going on down in Antarctica.
Matter of fact, some years ago,John Kerry said parts of it
were off limit for the next like35 years.
And they've yeah, yeah, theythe only scientists can go down
there.
Matter of fact, one of myclients tried to go down a user,
go you could go actually uh uhgo down with a scientific
expedition and join them.

(01:04:32):
Uh, you couldn't really takepart in too much of the
scientific experimentation, butyou could actually join them on
the trip and you can't do thatanymore.
At certain parts of it anyway.
Uh, they're finding very largestructures, very large pyramids
down there that are actuallylegit.
Uh, that are, we don't know whobuilt them.
I mean, they're very, veryancient.
They're much larger than theones found in Egypt.
Uh, and there was a person uh Isaw their interview, uh, and

(01:04:54):
she was talking to, she was in aprivate investigator, and she
was talking to this man who hadbeen previously working for the
Air Force.
Uh, he was now retired, but hetold an interesting story where
uh they had a uh a down shipthat they had to go rescue the
guys from.
And of course, Antarctica, thetemperatures are very
unforgiving.
So he was tasked with going toget them with his crew.
And he said, Well, well, we'llget there in about maybe an

(01:05:16):
hour's time if we're able to flydirectly over the pole.
And the officers said, Youcan't do that.
And they said, Why not?
He said, Well, it's just offlimits.
He said, Well, if I if I haveto go around the pole, the guys
are gonna die.
And so he said, No, you disobeyorders, you'll be
court-martialed.
So he's like, Okay, I'll get upin the air, and he said, The
hell with it, I'm gonna go.
And he told his crew, this iswhat we're gonna do, but we got
to save our men.
We got to save these guys.

(01:05:36):
And they flew across the norththe South Pole and they saw this
opening in the South Pole, andthey said they didn't know what
it was.
They said, What is that thing?
It was an enormous, like ahole, and they're going, What
are we flying over?
What is what is going on downthere?
So, all these questions arepopping up now.
Uh, what is what is your takeon that, Doug?
What's happening down there?

Douglas (01:05:54):
Well, you know, uh people I know we've had on the
show uh on the uh this the uh uhGlobal Village uh radio show on
Blog Talk, uh, we had somepretty amazing researchers and
people that were in-depth aboutthis.
I mean, it it just doesn't goaway.
Scientists detect mysteriousradio uh waves coming from

(01:06:14):
beneath Antarctica's uh ice.
Well, since Antarctica's icecap is melting like there's no
tomorrow, we're gonna find out.
We're gonna find out what'sthere because on the Pyrrhus
maps that were discovered in the1500s, which were copies of

(01:06:34):
maps that existed before, theentire globe, the continents on
the globe were depicted on thePires maps.
Very famous uh story aboutthose maps depicting the
continents.
And guess what?
Antarctica was properlydepicted on the map.
And only, I think it was in thelate 50s when American

(01:06:57):
engineers went down and startedby sonar mapping out the
continent.
Oh my god, it was exactly thesame as it appeared on the
previous maps.

Les (01:07:08):
Oh wow.

Douglas (01:07:08):
So that means, you know, there had to be a living,
thriving continent where peoplewere able to see the shoreline,
the continent outline, and maybeit wasn't at the South Pole.
Maybe it was in, you know, themiddle part, like like where,

(01:07:29):
let's say, Australia would be.
And so this place was athriving community, but it was
depicted on the Pyrrhus maps.
And so now there's mysteriousradio waves coming out.
Scientists working with theAnita experiment, high-altitude
balloons equipped with the uh todetect cosmic particles have

(01:07:49):
captured unexplained radiosignals seeming to emanate from
deep beneath Antarctica's icysurface.
Well, we're gonna find out.
Wow, we're gonna find out.
You know, there's apyramid-shaped mountain there in
the remote Ellsworth Mountainsin Antarctica.
It's uh symmetrical and it's apyramid-like peak, often

(01:08:10):
mistaken for uh an ancientartifact, or get this an alien
structure.
Conspiracy theories abound, butno geologists affirm that it's
simply a natural nanotuok orwhatever, a rock protruding
through glacial ice.
Well, we're gonna find out.
Yeah, recent scientificdiscovery revealed that ancient

(01:08:37):
deep submarine valleys buriedbeneath Antarctica's ice sheets.
Well, as they melt away, we'regonna find out these hidden
caverns uh or channels, I shouldsay, uh guide ocean currents
and play a vital role in the icestability and global sea level

(01:08:57):
rise, unseen forces shaping thefuture of our planet.
Well, as we know, there havebeen glaciers breaking off the
size of Manhattan floatingaround as hazards in the uh
South Pacific and in the Arcticuh ocean, I guess if it's uh I
believe that's what it's called.
So as the uh you know theglaciers which are millions of

(01:09:22):
years old, thousands of yearsold, millennia, you know,
they're melting away.
Just a little mischievousthought came to my mind.
Uh, as the as those those umsheets of uh icebergs melt into
the ocean.
Hmm, I wonder if there is goingto be some frozen animals,

(01:09:45):
creatures, or something that'sbeen frozen in the ice in
Antarctica.
It's going to be going to befought out and will come back to
life.
So we're going to have like,you know, I don't know,
two-headed snakes and stuff.
I, you know, like we're goingto see the return of sea
monsters, maybe uh, maybe thosemovies about Godzilla and you

(01:10:07):
know, there's other monstersthat live in the sea.
Oh my god, you know.
So, you know, there's a there'sby the way, everybody, there
was a uh chapel, uh it's calledChapel of the Snows in uh Mick
uh Mundo Station, a smallinterfaith uh church built in
eight 1956.
Uh it was from scrap that wasuh around there.

(01:10:27):
You know, that's another thing.
There's no garbage dump inAntarctica, and people leave the
scientists leave their stuffthere.
They don't bring it homebecause it costs so much.
So they have all this wonderfulgarbage dump that they can
build churches, and uh thisplace apparently is a very
beautiful place, was rebuilt in1989.

(01:10:49):
It has stained glass windows,and um uh I think it's um a
spiritual beacon.
Is it's one of the most remoteplaces in the world.
So we're gonna find out.
So, what what are we talkingabout here?
What's the point?
Well, back in the day when wehad these conspiracy theorists
on, they were talking about umwho was the explorer that was

(01:11:12):
there, Sergeant.

Les (01:11:15):
No, it was not Bird, Admiral Byrd.

Douglas (01:11:17):
Admiral Byrd, there we go.
I was gonna say SergeantPreston of the Yukon, but
anyway, uh that'd say datingmyself.
So there were people convincedthat there was this access, this
egress, if you will, uh intothe into the planet, and that
the earth was hollowed out.
There's still people thatbelieve that to this day.

Les (01:11:40):
And so they did mention in his notes something about
something about the temperaturedifferentiation was really
acute.
It was very strange how thingsget warm, but it's a lot of
controversy around that as faras to they even had a theories
that the Nazis have put a basedown there uh and they they ran
into the Nazis, and it's likewow.
I mean, it's how can you proveit?
But I'm just curious, is whywould John Kerry say it's off
the off limits for like the next35 years?

(01:12:01):
I mean, uh because it's it's amilitary base now?

Douglas (01:12:06):
Uh yes and no.
If you're asking meintuitively, I can see people
running around in in uh notwhite outfits but dark outfits,
and I suspect there's been thisgigantic mining project going
on.
And remember, the snow's goingaway, so you have a if you have
a hole in the ice and the suncomes out, the hole in the ice

(01:12:29):
uh you know exaggerates, right?
And uh I think that's what'shappening.
There's probably a big run-onfor essential minerals, you
know, with the wars being foughtover in Ukraine and other
places.
Uh, I think that's probablywhat's going on.
But I I see faces, they don'tlook human, they look ugly.
So it's either people wearingmasks or outfits or you know,
facial gear.

(01:12:50):
Uh, but there's lots of them,they're all in dark suits and
they're running around.
So I'm gonna say uh, you know,this uh uh this rush to
Antarctica, uh, I think it'scoming to my mind just a minute.
Elon Musk did an expedition tobuild an army of robots to take

(01:13:18):
over the planet.

Les (01:13:19):
That's exactly what they are.
We're gonna be enslaved.
They're robots.

Douglas (01:13:29):
Okay, there you go.
There you go.
Well, thank thank you, Les, forsolving that mystery.
I picked it up from the ethers.
You apparently can pick up alot of things on the ethers.

Les (01:13:42):
So I just might get a visit from the men in black tonight.
Anyway, uh, so we're gonna goon to uh our friend.
Uh, his name was Claude Monet,and he was a French, he was of
course most people recognize himas the the creator of
Impressionism.
But the funny thing is, uh, hewas born in uh in uh November
1840 in Paris.
When he was doingImpressionism, he was doing, in

(01:14:03):
his opinion, he was doing modernart.
That was it.
He was considered a modernartist.
He did not call itImpressionism, but somebody
describing his work has calledit you get the impression of
what he's doing.
And that's where they that'swhere they grabbed it.
But uh he was a veryinteresting man.
I remember there was onecomment where he was uh painting
with other artists, and anotherartist said, Can I borrow your
black?

(01:14:23):
And he said, I don't use black.
Because he knew that even inshadows, shadows had light.
Very interesting man.
What was going through what doyou think was going through his
mind when he was creating thisimpression of uh what he saw
around him?

Douglas (01:14:39):
Well, I think we've talked a little bit about the
idea that people are verytalented, uh, have this ability
to see beyond the physicalworld.
They see into the unseen or thegreat beyond.
And uh I look at the I'mlooking at his picture and I'm
looking at some of his uh hisartwork, and uh you can see he's

(01:15:03):
he's trying to paint hisfeelings.
Oh so I think he was veryclairsentient, and he um you
know he's most well known forhis series of serene water
lilies and paintings.
So he was meditating, he was inbetween worlds, he was able to

(01:15:24):
see beyond the veil, as theysay, and so you know, he's got
some of the uh impressions.
The artist's garden atGivenery, 1900, yeah, the Water
Lily Pond, 1899, Garden at St.

(01:15:47):
Adair Adresse, I should say,1867, the beach at Sante
Adressi, 1867.
And these are like, you know,you look at them back, and then
you can see that they're youknow regular pictures that you
look at.
But if you look at them closer,you can see he's got
foreground, midground, and hehas the sky and uh the

(01:16:13):
foreground meeting, but not as ahorizontal line, not like as
some people would say that youhave to um, you know, you have
that in this ship, in this onewith the ships in the back,
they're on the horizon.
That's how normally people.
But look at what's in theforeground.
Your eyes don't go to thebackground, it goes to the
forefront where there's vividcolor and uh there's life, and

(01:16:36):
you can imagine the peopletalking, and then in the faraway
distance, there's like theseships, and there's different
kinds too steamships, sailingships, small ships.
So there's this array ofvessels back in the day.
That's how everybody gotaround.
But look at the vital pictures,the the the colors, they're
just vibrant and they're jumpingoff this off the screen.

(01:16:58):
So he's feeling this, and evenhis use uh his um use of shadows
makes you like you're rightthere.

Les (01:17:06):
Right, yeah.
Yeah, even he even he knew thatshadows had light, so he said,
I don't use black.
Uh he was fascinating.
I mean, the poor thing, heended up with cataracts, I
believe, uh, later on in hislife.
But it was fascinating to seewhat he did with that.
If you've ever I haven't been,but friends of mine have have
been to Givarnay, where he hadthat garden.
He created it was a it's atributary off the Seine River,

(01:17:27):
and he created this beautifulgarden with the water lilies.
That's where he did most of hispainting later on in life.
Uh he created a houseboat wherehe would actually go out, row
out in the boat, and paint fromthe boat itself.
Very prolific artist.
But uh he and uh he could nothe even he didn't understand why
he was so popular, becausethere were other impressionists

(01:17:48):
that painted like him, but theywere he considered them better
than him.
And he said, I could neverunderstand why it became so
popular.
He said, I'm just a big bear ofa guy.
Why do you think he'd be was itin his karma to become popular?
Was he at had he been popularin another lifetime?

Douglas (01:18:04):
No, he was a master, but he was humble, and he knew
um to speak of otherspleasingly, it was good
politics.
Uh and you know, if you look atthose eyes, you can see wisdom
in his in his uh in the in theway he looks.
He's a humble man, but like allmasters, what comes to my mind

(01:18:28):
now is that he did thingseasily.
And so what he thought, youknow, nonchalantly, you know,
doing the if you need a lot ofcalmness and you just look at
that, those paintings, and youcalm down, that was the secret
of his artistry.
Other people wouldn't do it.

(01:18:49):
I mean, you could people cantake uh a thousand photographs,
but one will stand out becauseit's extra special.
And I think that the answerquestion, what comes to my mind
as we're watching, is that hewas a master, he was very
humble, and he couldn't figureout why people thought he was
you know the best, because itcame easy to him.

(01:19:09):
Oh he was a master.
Oh wow, it came easy to him,and like all masters, like all
geniuses, you know, yeah, what'sthe big deal?
Well, you are the big deal.
Nobody can do what you'redoing, yeah.

(01:19:29):
But you know, I just do it soeasy.
There I was having a croissantand a little, you know, uh
whatever, a cup of coffee ortea, and I had this vision.
Well, that's what he's paintingis a vision because he he feels
it.
I once talked to what pops inmy mind just now, I once talked
to an artist in in uh um uh wellin in uh in never mind where he

(01:19:52):
was, and he came to me one dayand we were talking about um his
investments, and I was curiousbecause he was a very well-known
artist.
He he used to work with metaland he would make figurines, and
he was very well known in uhfar away places, but in
particular, people who weregoing to be given an award or

(01:20:12):
something by the local citywould come to him and they would
say, We'd like to commissionyou to do a work for somebody.
Okay.
Now, his this is all blackmetal, they were figurines, they
would look like Africanwarriors, they would look like
dancers, they would look um likehumanoids, but they would be

(01:20:35):
nondescript.
But they were beautiful andthey were tall, and they had
legs and arms and were verybeautiful.
So I said to him, So, okay, Iknow who I am, the psychic guy,
and I know who you are, thisartist.
And I said, So, how do you doit?
And he could see that I waspenetrating into his his uh his

(01:20:57):
his uh train of thought of whenhe was trying to create.
And he so he confessed up.
He said, Well, I take a pieceof metal and I put it in my
hand, and I look at it, and Ilook at it, and then I ask it,
What do you want to become?
Wow, I never forgot thosewords.

(01:21:21):
Wow, and in his mind he wouldsee an image, and so like
Michelangelo, who once said thatall those figurines always
existed in the block of marble,all he had to do was to chip
away the excess and expose thefigure.
Yeah, interesting concept, andthat's what this man did.

(01:21:42):
Uh, he didn't offer me one, no,he didn't give me one, and no,
I didn't buy one because theywere expensive, but I did get to
hold them in my hand.
And Helen of the Sloggy, um, uhthe the countess of um
Transylvania, uh real was a veryfamous artist.
She sold her paintings for10,000 or more, 10,000 up.

(01:22:03):
And she told me once that shewould be visiting in other
dimensions, wow, travelingthrough them, and she would
paint them.
Oh, cool.
She saw beings in there thatwere like smoke, hooded beings
like smoke, and she used toenjoy blasting through them
until she realized that she wasdestroying them.

(01:22:24):
That was in her dimension, theywere smoke.
And so uh now with it scaredthe heck out of us.
My my wife and I were in herhouse and we saw little faces
bopping around in her livingroom.
Did you see that?
Yeah, we gotta get out of here.

(01:22:45):
But she's a very famous lady.
I loved her, she's a verytalented lady.
I'd like to know if anybody'slistening, uh, you know, how we
could ever get in contact withuh with her family or or you
know, find out where her pit herpaintings were.
But anyway, that's getting backto the point that um, you know,
I think you've solved it.

(01:23:05):
We're gonna go on record andsay, you saw, well, I saw and
you interpreted robots.
Robots are now actively engagedin something, mining perhaps,
carrying boxes or packs.
That the the when you said themore clear they they become.
But they were walking, theywere running around and and

(01:23:25):
walking strange, but they lookedhumanoid, but they couldn't see
their faces looked uhdifferent.
So we're gonna say, yeah, we'regonna start.
Don't tell anybody, but uh, youknow, Les and Doug say that
there's robots, aka uh ElonMusk, buddies, pals, whatever, I
don't know.
Um I shouldn't say that, Ishould say property, uh, that uh

(01:23:47):
are mining South the SouthPole.
Wow.

Les (01:23:52):
Well, next time I mean if that robots can do dangerous
work and save men's lives, whynot, right?
Yeah, mining can be yeah, mineyou're right, you're right.

Douglas (01:24:00):
You don't need to vaccinate them, you see to oil
them, apparently.
Remember the wizard of oz, thetin man?

Les (01:24:08):
Oil can't that's and we got some uh we got some questions
from uh our YouTube listenersfrom this too shall pass.
Uh in 2023, Block Talk Radio, acaller said that he had a
vision that in 2026 would be theend of seeds, S-E-E-D-S.
Could that mean stores wouldonly sell seedless watermelon,

(01:24:29):
grapes, etc.
Every fruit would be seedless?
What do you think, Doc?

Douglas (01:24:34):
I think it means that we ought to stock up with
vegetable seeds.
Uh, you might be right aboutthe fruit being hybrid because
we're now getting away fromagricultural normal means, and
we're getting the high tech,this, and the other thing.
There's aggro stuff, there's ayou know, a big white bowl on

(01:24:56):
the bottom, a plastic ABS pipe,and plants on uh and holes on
either side and water beingcirculated.
So they're basically uh plantswithout without soil, and
they're doing quite well.
Uh they're leafy vegetables,etc., and fruits and things like
that.
But I think he could be right.
I mean, we we have we have manyuh many types of uh foods now

(01:25:20):
that seed takes up a lot ofenergy, but uh it's been
predicted by myself and others,Casey Peterson, Casey, that
there will come a time in whichgold and silver will be
valuable, precious stones,semi-precious stones, and seeds.
Seeds, S-W.
And so uh that's why you knowyou mentioned about your friends

(01:25:42):
and neighbors gettinginterested in agriculture and
backyard gardening.
Yeah, well, it's because theprice of vegetables and fruits,
as we predicted before, we'vesaid you know, eggs was going
up.
We predicted that a few monthsahead of time.
Eventually it'll be difficultto get food.
Well, the way the presentadministration is dealing with

(01:26:05):
these things about puttingtariffs on products, and the
farmers are they were on thenews recently, they're they're
had a really bad year last year,and now they're having another
really bad year, and they can'tget labor.
They, you know, they're inweather difficulties, the
world's on fire.
Anyway, not to go down thattrack too much, but to say that

(01:26:26):
now's the time to go to Costcoor wherever you go, and you can
get buckets of seeds, you know,those little packages, they stay
for, they stay good forever,and you can uh trade them off.
You can use them for for money.
However, as to our our friendin a point, uh, I I don't quite
think it means that there'sgoing to be no seeds because

(01:26:48):
then there'd be no prolificationof the fruits and vegetables.
Did you know there's only onekind of banana in the world?
There's been research on tryingto grow a second and even a
third string of bananas, but allthe bananas you eat come from
the same banana source, if youwill, the same variety.

(01:27:09):
So I understand we're trying toget more varieties.
That was a few years ago thatwas given to me, but it could be
the same way.
So, to our our our um to ourperson asking the question, it's
a really good question.
It's an eye-opener.
Thank you very much forbringing that to our attention.
Uh, I I think it's more alongthe lines of actually having
real seeds in your own jar,container, metal container.

(01:27:34):
Remember, metal container,mouses can't get in them, and uh
they don't rot, you know.
Glass containers have cumidhave humidity in, so remember to
put your seeds in the seedpackets, but also put them in
zip ziploc bags so uh there's nomoisture.
And there was something elseabout that that was just popped
in my mind about seeds.
Oh, yeah, Norway.

(01:27:54):
Did you know that Norway hasthe world's largest uh
depository or not, the um uhbank of uh deposits of uh seeds
in the world?
Yes, why?
Because Norway has mountainsand they have ice and they have
snow, at least presently.

(01:28:16):
So good question, my friend,out there.
Thank you very much for beingpart of the show.

Les (01:28:23):
We have another sure.
Our next is from uh Larry Cruz.
Uh he I had a powerful dreamwhere in the dream it was sunny,
then it became nighttime.
Of course, more happened, but Idon't recall having a dream
where it was sunny, then becamenighttime.
What is the meaning?

Douglas (01:28:39):
Next year.
Oh sunny's daytime.
And you know, this is in uh theJewish religion, other
religions.
Tomorrow starts when the sungoes down today.
When the sun sets now, theday's over.

(01:28:59):
The next day starts, and so thenext day starts what?
Without sun.

Les (01:29:07):
Oh, I see.

Douglas (01:29:08):
So in the dream, uh, when you go from sunny day,
that's done now, to next year,it gets dark, a new year, like a
whole year away.
So if you're riding a bicyclein the sun and all of a sudden
you're in the nighttime andyou're wondering where your
bicycle was, that means nextyear you're not gonna have a
bicycle.

(01:29:29):
Oh, okay.
Something like that.
That's pretty that's prettyelementary, Mr.
Watson.

Les (01:29:39):
Uh, we have a nice note from a person on YouTube uh by
the name of QM.
Love listening to you andstarted listening to Ross
because of you, Douglas.
Thank you.
Nice message.

Douglas (01:29:51):
Ross Peterson?

Les (01:29:52):
I guess it must mean Ross, yeah.

Douglas (01:29:54):
Yeah, he's out there.
Ross Peterson was a man's man.
He was an amazing, intuitiveperson.
He was an Extremely exceptionalhuman being, just nondescript.
They broke the mold when he wasuh born after talking about
Ross Peterson.
So thank you very much forlistening to us.
He was my mentor, and I'm aneophyte compared to Ross.

(01:30:15):
Absolutely.

Les (01:30:16):
Hmm.
Uh, one of my clients uhlisteners just texted me.
I don't know why they don'ttext here, but anyway, she says
uh she wants to know am I trulyfree or is my path already
written for me?

Douglas (01:30:29):
If you're asking me that question, what do you
think?
Yes, of course, you're free.
Unless you think you're not.
Okay, so what does that mean?
I think, therefore, I am.
Yeah, okay.
Um, what do you mean?
If you're asking a question,then you must be free.

(01:30:49):
Yes, otherwise you wouldn't askthe question.
This gets into high, you know,uh philosophical nonsense
sometimes.
But the point is that if you'reasking a question, then you
already know the answer.
And if you're asking thatquestion, then you have to be
free, otherwise you wouldn'tknow the answer to ask the
question.

(01:31:09):
So here's a go.
Here's a quick lesson on this.
I teach uh this in in seminars.
Everybody has free will andfree choice, absolutely.
But what about fate?
Okay, you come with a blueplan, you come with a with a
purpose in your life.
So, how can you have free willand free choice and still have

(01:31:30):
fate and destiny?
They're both.
As Robert Kennedy Jr.
answered just the other day toa very difficult question.
They're both right.
So you have a destiny or afate, you have a purpose to your

(01:31:50):
life that you have to live.
You cannot escape it becauseyou already chose it.
What's that mean?
Your soul decided you want tocome down and be the person you
are today, or live the life thatyou're living today.
You want to find out all aboutit.
It didn't know about it, itsort of had an inkling or an

(01:32:14):
understanding of what your lifeexperience would be like, so it
decided to experience it.
Now, free will and free choiceis okay, I'm coming into the
world.
I have to be here.
I'm going to be this bodyshape, the gender I am, the
experiences I have as a baby,all those things, the birth

(01:32:37):
order, those are things that aregoing to help me find my way to
fulfill my destiny.
Okay, but I get to choose whatkind of clothes I'm gonna wear.
I get to choose what educationI'm going to get.
I'm gonna choose if I want totravel or stay home.
I'm gonna choose if I likepizza or if I like vegan.

(01:32:59):
Okay, it doesn't those thingsare your free will and free
choice.
But the overview is you're hereand you're who you are now, and
if it's your destiny to work ina school, you will be in a
school.
If your destiny is to driveheavy equipment, you will drive
heavy equipment.
Whether it's a tank or abulldozer, you're driving heavy

(01:33:20):
equipment.
Okay, not that simplistic, butto give you the idea, so free
will and free choice is okay,you're here, do what you want,
but when you're seven years old,you're gonna have to break your
arm.
You're 14, you're gonna fall inlove, and when you're 23,

(01:33:42):
you're going to change yourvocation, you're gonna do
something totally different.
And when you're 35, you'regonna travel the world, and when
you're 42, you're gonna have aheart attack, and when you're
52, you're gonna discovermeditation and become a saintly
teacher, and when you're 70,you're gonna get on the Soul

(01:34:04):
Report show and talk about yourlife and how miraculously you
went through the zigzag to whereyou are.
Okay, so what I'm saying isthere are life lessons along the
way that you must endure,experience.
And the only way out of thosethings, talking about karma now,
the only way out of that ofavoiding the difficult karma is

(01:34:24):
to regret, to learn a lesson,either through watching other
people or being spirituallyaware and giving away, giving up
the tendencies to do violentthings, then you can strip away
those layers of karma by beingof service.
But in order to do that, youhave to realize hey, I have free

(01:34:46):
will and free choice, hey, Ihave to work on myself, hey, God
does not demand that I continueto be as the way I was when I
was born.
I can be better, and thereforeyou have free will and free
choice, and you can usurp thegreat temptation of your

(01:35:08):
destiny.
You don't need to go throughdifficult things, unless, of
course, you need to learn alesson.

Les (01:35:15):
Uh, the next is from uh my client Martha.
What does it mean to liveauthentically in alignment with
my spiritual self?

Douglas (01:35:23):
To be true to yourself.
You have to know yourself, andwe don't get to know ourselves
unless you're very attentive andlooking at yourself all the
time through rose uh coloredlenses, but also understand

(01:35:44):
you're a human.
You have a dark side, you havea weak side, you can succumb
yourself to temptation.
But salvation means youovercome those weaknesses in
your character, and so by lovingyourself, that's the way to go,

(01:36:05):
because you find out that, asmy mentor once said, if you go
into a dark closet and close thedoor, this is exact words, you
will find it in that closetyou're there all by yourself
now, you will find your bestfriend and your worst enemy.

(01:36:27):
Wow, it's a profound way thatRoss Peterson explained that to
me, a young man at the age oftwenty five.
So, how can you be true toyourself, understand yourself,
make mistakes or errors, becauseerrors are the stepping stones

(01:36:49):
to success.
Don't be afraid to makemistakes, and then learn how to
forgive yourself and say, Well,I wasn't so cool after all.
Hmm.
And as you get older, Iguarantee you, everyone out
there, if you follow this onething, you will have a wonderful

(01:37:09):
golden age.
And that one thing is live yourlife so much so that you don't
have regret.
I don't think anybody I evermet had no regrets ever.
There were always a few.
But if you can do that, youwill have a wonderful old age.

(01:37:33):
So I hope that's meaningful.
There you go.

Les (01:37:37):
Uh, and our last question is from Joseph.
Um, if everything is connected,as they say it is, what
responsibility do I have?
Do I hold towards others andthe earth?
How long are your arms?

Douglas (01:37:52):
Oh boy.
From this point backwards, yourfingertips, you have complete
control and completeresponsibility to whatever is
from the end of your fingertips,the tip of your toes, if you
will, the top of your head,backwards.

(01:38:12):
Beyond that, you have nocontrol.
Okay.
So the image I have in my headis you're in the ocean and
you're swimming.
So to be true to yourself,you're trying to swim to shore,
you're trying to save yourself.
You're not going to be worriedabout the whales and the salmon

(01:38:34):
and the porpoises and the shipsgoing by and the water, etc.
You're going to be true toyourself and take care of
yourself.
The short answer in aphilosophical way is from your
fingertips back, you havecomplete control.
Put your arm out straight infront of you, my friend.
That's it.
That's the limit.

(01:38:55):
How can you be true to theworld?
Take care of the world.
Don't beat up the world.
Don't take your hands and beaton things.
Don't dig holes.
Don't, you know, do nastythings.

Les (01:39:07):
Respect the world.

Douglas (01:39:08):
I mean, I don't need to be too pointed to that.
But that's the rule.
Fingertips back, you havecomplete control.
Beyond, you can only say,putting your hands together, God
Almighty, I pray that therewill be peace in the world.
And I'll try to do everything Ican to make peace in my world
so that I will affect all of theworld.

(01:39:30):
There you go.

Les (01:39:33):
All right.
As we close the show, do youhave any closing comments, Doug,
for the show tonight?

Douglas (01:39:39):
Let's see.
Les you're an amazing guy.
You have an amazing life.
I've known you for 30 years ormore.
I remember uh our friend Dr.
Gazelle in in uh Connecticut,Thompson, Connecticut, where his
house was, and how we um we hadsome good times in Rhode Island

(01:40:01):
going to a jazz club.
Our dear friend GeorgeZaferiadis, uh, his wife let him
go out with us one night.
We could go to the club.
I felt so sorry that she didn'tcome along, but it was the
boys' night out.
That was the boy's night.
That was that was Stella who'swith us now, and we send her our
love and our gut thoughts.
So wherever we go, whatever wedo, um, you know, we'll always

(01:40:25):
be friends.
And uh for everyone out there,the most valuable thing you can
have in your life is a friend.
Well, thank you, Doug.
Okay, my friends, it's uh it'sthat time where we're going to
say goodnight and God bless, andwe love you so much.

(01:40:46):
Um, thank you for choosing theSoul Reports uh show tonight.
We'd love to see you here atthe same time next week.
Uh and this brings us to an endof this special soul report,
and it's an end of our journey.
And we go our separate ways aswe look towards the world and we
try to make the world a betterplace.

(01:41:08):
If a thought, a memory, or evena dream rises to you after the
show, follow it.
This is your spirit speaking toyou in the way that only the
soul can talk to you.
It loves you, it is you.
Remember, you're not just hereto survive the world, you're
here to transform it.

(01:41:29):
One loving act, one truthfulvoice, and one sacred breath at
a time.
Please take a moment andsubscribe to our show, like it,
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We're here to help your friendsand yourself along this way.

(01:41:49):
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Until next time, stay aware,stay kind, stay connected.
Remember, we're all in thehuman family, and God loves us

(01:42:09):
all.
Okay, this has been the SoulReport Live.
I'm your host, Douglas JamesCauttrell, with my good friend
and co-host Les Hubert and Jack,who is producing the show
tonight, Jack Baelick.
Thank you very much, Oz.
We're happy for all thosepictures and the helping to
produce the show.
See you next week, my friends.
We have more exciting newscoming up of where the world is

(01:42:32):
going.
And you're going to find yourway because you're going to
continue to take your steps, andwe're here to support you all
the way.
Good night, God bless.
Take care, Les.
You're the best.
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