What does it truly mean to be "spiritual" and why do so many of us feel that our spiritual practices alone aren't creating the transformation we seek? In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Douglas James Cottrell tackles this profound question that lies at the heart of the human experience.
Drawing from over four decades of spiritual teaching, Dr. Douglas reveals why spirituality alone isn't sufficient for our journey through the physical world. We are complex beings with spiritual, mental, physical, and emotional bodies—each requiring attention and development. Like socks and shoes that work best together, our spiritual and physical aspects must be integrated for a balanced existence.
The conversation ventures into fascinating territory as Dr. Douglas explains how spiritual laws function like physical laws—they're impeccable, unchangeable, and operate whether we acknowledge them or not. Just as gravity doesn't require our belief to function, spiritual laws govern our existence regardless of our awareness. Understanding these laws provides us with a roadmap for navigating life's challenges and finding our true purpose.
Perhaps most captivating is the discussion of how spiritually advanced beings like avatars appear to transcend physical limitations. Through compelling examples of manifestation and transmutation—from biblical miracles to modern spiritual masters like Sai Baba—Dr. Douglas suggests these individuals understand the atomic structure of reality so deeply they can manipulate it through consciousness and spiritual power.
The episode culminates in a powerful realization: everyone is already on a spiritual path, but becoming conscious of this journey allows us to take shortcuts and avoid unnecessary suffering. True spirituality isn't about escaping the physical world but embracing both our spiritual and physical nature with balance, compassion, and humility.
Whether you're a dedicated spiritual seeker or simply curious about the deeper dimensions of existence, this episode offers profound insights that will transform how you view your spiritual journey. Subscribe now to continue exploring these timeless teachings and discover the power of conscious spiritual development in your own life.
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Announcer (00:00):
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Douglas James Cottrell (00:30):
Welcome to the Wake Up, the broadcast
where curiosity leads to deeperunderstanding.
I'm your host, Douglas JamesCottrell, and my good friend and
co-host Les Hubert is here withme, along with editor Jack
Bialik, as we delve into thefascinating realms of life,
metaphysics, spirituality andthe pressing questions that
shape our world.
Good morning, Les.
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What's on the menu today?
Les Hubert (00:53):
Hi Doug.
This question is concerningmany people out there.
In this world, this dimensioncalled the physical, why is just
being spiritual and that's inquotes seem to be not enough,
and some of us are not even surewhat the term spiritual means.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:09):
Well, we're a binary of different
bodies.
We have a spiritual body, wehave a mental body, we have a
physical body, we have anemotional body.
So if we were spiritual, wewouldn't be here in physical
form.
We would be a light, we'd be inthought form or something along
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those lines.
So what does that mean, thatspirituality is not enough?
It's because, as a spiritualbeing in a physical world, we
need to have a physical form.
And so, as we develop ourselvesthrough our spiritual journey,
we need a vehicle.
It's kind of like we're takinga trip and so we have to have a
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vehicle that we can transportourselves from here to there.
So the short answer on that oneis spirituality is not enough,
because what is spirituality?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, if you ask 100 peopleon the street in different parts
of the world, you say, have youever had a spiritual experience
or do you know what a spiritualexperience is?
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And chances are people say, yes, I want to have a spiritual
experience.
But they have no idea what tocompare that with.
They have no reference points,and I guess that's the problem
we have.
We don't have any measurements,reference points, to say, aha,
you've had a spiritualexperience or you're spiritual,
unless we look into thereligions.
And then, as we do so, we haveto look at the metaphysical, the
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mystical, these experiencesthat are beyond everyday
occurrences.
Like somebody having a dream ofthe future, and it occurs.
Like somebody holding theirhand up and something appears in
their hand, like food appearing.
Or divine lights and sparklythings experienced around us,
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and then maybe even the form ofa divine being, an angel, for
instance.
If you saw an angel, what doesan angel look like?
Well, I don't know.
I would expect to be a beingwith big wings and, you know,
maybe a harp or something youknow, all the, all the things
that we've been told what issupposed to be expected.
But what if it just looks likeyou and me?
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Ri ght.
A very loving, kind person.
Chances are that is an angel orit's somebody that comes, in my
experiences, they know exactlywhat your problem is, they know
what to do, they give you theideas, suggestions, or they take
you by the hand and they getyou out of the trouble you're in
.
And usually they don't talkmuch and most often they appear
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in pairs.
One does the talking and onedoes not.
And so when you haveexperienced your expectations,
then you'd say, okay, that wasan angel.
But in understanding whatspirituality is, what a
spiritual experience is, well,having a dream about some event
and then coming true, that's aprophetic dream, that's a
spiritual experience.
Having a feeling of love andcomfort come over you, when
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you're feeling sad and blue, andyou look around and you're the
only one in the room, well,that's being loved by the divine
or by people that are prayingfor you.
And understanding prayer andthought process and meditations
and all those things thatspiritual practices that people
do, those are designed to havespiritual experiences or to
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teach you that there is aspiritual world and that you're
connecting with it.
So why is spirituality notenough?
Well, it's like socks and shoes, isn't it?
You can put on your shoes, butif you don't have your socks,
it's uncomfortable.
If you put on your socks, youdon't put on your shoes, it's
uncomfortable.
But together you have a nice,comfortable pair of shoes to
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walk in and you have socks tocomfort your feet and, ta-da,
you can walk anywhere you want.
So the point being is that inthis world that we're in, to be
a combination of all thedifferent parts you are, and
still keep looking up andseeking to find more in the
heavens above, that's yourspiritual journey.
But you have to deal with themundane: you have to have a
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shower, you have to eat, youhave to go and do things, work
and effort and rest and play andall the things in the physical
world.
But beyond that, there's thatinner desire, that curiosity.
What's above?
And as you reach out, usingcontemplation, meditation,
prayer and all the other things,to reach to the great beyond,
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again through dreams and visionsand other things that go bump
in the night when you sleep,you're on the path, and so it's
kind of like where's thatlifeline?
Sleep, you're on the path, andso it's kind of like where's
that lifeline?
Where can I grab that rope topull myself back up into the
heavens above?
That's your journey.
You're trying to find thatlifeline.
Les Hubert (05:55):
So is it a necessity to learn the spiritual laws?
Because we know we have tolearn the physical laws, like
you just mentioned, taking careof the physical, you know the
mundane.
Is it necessary for us to alsolearn the spiritual laws?
Douglas James Cottrell (06:06):
There's no other way.
You can't learn how to get fromhere to there unless you know
the directions, the road, theroadmap, where the bridges are,
where the stepping stones are,where the pitfalls are.
Which way is the right way?
Are you going up, are you goingdown?
Are you being misdirected?
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So all those things aboutfinding your way is what you
need.
And so you have to go throughthis experience, kind of saying,
okay, hi-ho, hi-ho, here I go.
Where I'm going, I don't know.
And then you find your way.
And as you find your way, youlearn that if you see a hill in
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front of you, it's going to behard to go up, but if you can
find a pathway around the hill,ha-ha, that's the easier way to
take, even though it looks likeit's meandering up the hill,
it's going to be easier than totry to climb up a straight
embankment.
So the spiritual laws there's noadjudication.
Nobody made them up.
For instance, when people askme, sometimes sarcastically, who
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made up these spiritual rulesand these laws, I say, who made
up the law of gravity?
It's there.
But I guarantee, if you don'tknow about the law of gravity
and you step out on a ledge,you're going to fall down and
you're going to find out whatthe law of gravity is, in a big
hurry.
So it's the same thing aboutfinding the laws of the universe
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.
They are there.
They are impeccable.
They're not changeable.
They cannot be adulterated.
You might think you can, butyou cannot.
Now, velocity is something thatwe can go up to the speed of
light, but since we haven't beenthere yet, we can theorize what
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it's like.
And there is a theory that asyou approach the speed of light,
time slows down for thetraveler.
To the people who our personleft behind, time continues on,
so they might go out in thespeed of light for a day and
come back and they're one dayolder.
The people that they leftbehind are now 100 days older or
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something to that effect.
So understanding the rules andthe laws is like anything else.
Understanding the rules of theroad.
If you are driving a vehicleand you obey the rules of the
road, you get safely from whereyou started to where you want to
go.
Any infraction of those rulesand you're putting yourself in
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jeopardy.
Sometimes you can sneak aroundthem and you know you can speed
up and slow down and get by.
Other times you cannot.
You cross that white line,you're in difficulty.
Les Hubert (08:50):
So these people who seem to be, as you mentioned,
avatars, the people who are veryspiritually advanced in this
world, that are visiting us now,why is it that they seem to be
able to transcend physical law?
Douglas James Cottrell (09:01):
Because they understand physical law.
What is physical?
it.
is It what we think it is.
Have you ever seen martial artspeople having a martial arts?
c
Les Hubert (09:14):
Uh, long time, yeah, some time ago.
Yeah, they're pretty cool.
Douglas James Cottrell (09:17):
They can do things with their body, kick
their legs out, they can kicktheir foot as if it would be a
punch of a fist, they can wraptheir legs around, they can jump
up high, they can roll aroundand survive any combat.
But the point I'm making thatin a very poor description of
that is that they understand therules, but they are like you
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and I.
They are beyond yoga, beingable to stretch or flex the body
.
They are in a frame of mind,they understand the limitations
and beyond, and they can dothings with their body that we
can't (09:55):
stretching their legs and doing the things that they do,
being able to jump up and dowonderful things.
That's a simple thing to saythey understand the laws of
reality, the physical world welive in, and they have adapted,
they have improved, they havechanged, and we watch them.
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We are amazed, but we can dothat too if we apply the same
training that they did.
So the rules in the physicalworld are the limitations on
what we have gone ourselves.
Not everybody wants to be aweightlifter and have huge
muscles.
Not everybody wants to be adistance runner and be very thin
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and lean.
Not everybody wants to be anathletic person where they have
lower body muscles so they canjump up high, like basketball
players, or they need upperstrength, like people who row
boats.
So the reality is what are yougoing to apply yourself in, in
the physical world?
And then you develop to therules and limitations of the
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physical world, you adapt andthen you become in control of
that.
.
However, people tell us thatwe're made of atoms, and around
each atom there's an electronthat spins around, and so
there's a space betweenelectrons and the - the atoms
are made up of nucleus.
And so we, okay, if an atom isa single, tiniest, compact speck
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of reality or physical thingsand it has space around it, then
basically, Les, you and I aretransparent.
We're made up of air.
And so, when I put my hand onthe table, meaning that I have
atoms in my hand and atoms onthe table, my hand should be
able to go right through thattable, but it doesn't.
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What's stopping it?
I don't know.
The laws of reality, the lawsof consciousness or different
things that I don't know about,but theoretically, atomic
structure is such that it shouldmerge right through each other.
We just don't know how to dothat yet.
We're locked up and maybe thatthought power, that perception
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of what we are, is what'sstopping us.
You know, beat my chest.
That's solid.
Well, it's solid to some degree, but I guarantee if something
was to come and push on my chest, that was strong enough, my
chest would not be solid.
Les Hubert (12:29):
I've seen video footage of like Sai Baba when he
appeared in India and he coulddo incredible things.
He could bring things out ofmid-air, he.
.
.
We've seen some people havesaid that they saw him
levitating and that he could gothrough solid structure.
Was that because he hadmastered the spiritual laws or
the physical laws?
Douglas James Cottrell (12:45):
Well, that's a very interesting point,
because I've seen some of thatmyself and the manifestation of
things out of thin air.
If you understand thateverything can be reduced to one
common denominator, and that isash.
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Holy ash is called vibhuti.
If everything can be reduced toash, then the ash can be
transmuted into anything else.
Instead of going down, it's nowmanifesting to go up.
So people hold out their handand an orange appears.
In the Christian teachings,Jesus created the multiplication
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of fish and loaves, but he hadto have the fish and loaves to
start.
Oh, just like the water intowine.
He had to have something that hecould transmute into something
else.
Exactly, Les.
That was his first miraclerecorded in the good book and
for any students they know that,you know, his mother came to
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him, mother Mary, and said hey,son, you know we're at this
festival, we're at this wedding,our relatives here are running
out of wine.
Do your thing, you know, dothat thing with the water, you
know, make it into wine.
And he said Mom, come on, youknow it's my time.
I don't want everybody to knowI can do these things.
Oh, mom, and she insisted.
He did it.
And of course the rest ishistory.
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We're talking about it today.
So the transmutation of matterfrom one thing to another is a
combination of changing theatomic structure, right?
One atom to another.
You can separate hydrogen andoxygen from water and what have
you got?
Nothing.
The water disappears.
But you put hydrogen and oxygentogether again, do you create
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water?
I guess so, because thoseelements coming together become
what they're made of.
So what if you have the mentalcapability to dissect the atomic
structure and the ability toput it back together differently
, like water into wine?
I'm not sure, I'm not smartenough, I don't know enough, but
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I'm sure there's some chemistsout there who could tell us that
the difference between waterand wine is just a teeny, tiny
little bit of some element orsome atomic structure.
So, as I'm putting forward theidea to change things is, you
need to have the spiritualability, power over things, over
matter, to be able to alter it,change it or manifest it into
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something that you decide to doso.
So there are lots of storiesover the ages of beings that
were able to do this, includingin our own world, in the
Christian world, that the Christwas able to do things .
And, and more recently, in the1980s and 90s, lord Satya Sai
Baba or Bhagwan Satya Sai Babawas able to do that, as was
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Shirdi Sai Baba, the first ofthe three incarnations.
And the third Prema, purdi Saiif Baba and I'm saying that
incorrect, apologize, I he isapologize is the third
incarnation of the prophesiedthree.
.
They, they have the sameability.
He's here in the world now andthey have the same ability to
transmute material.
That's why diseases can go awayin the wave of a hand, because
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the disease is being transmutedinto non-disease and the atomic
structure or the well-being of aperson's body is being
instantly transmuted,transmuteduted or altered to
become .
And, and that's why thesespiritual beings can raise
people from .
the dead In my theoretical mind,how they can do that.
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The body is opened up, the soulcomes back and raises the
vibrations of the deceased form,the blood starts circulating
and the body regains its normalhealth or being alive.
Okay, that's not really part ofyour question, but that's kind
of down the road of how we canchange things by thought, by
spiritual power, by being anavatar, having control over the
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physical world and each other,for that matter.
But they don't abuse it.
I've seen Satya Sai Baba wavehis hand in the air and beads
manifest, come out of his handlike a chain of beads, one after
the other.
It's incredible.
Yeah, I've also seen himproduce Vurubuti out of his
fingertips by rubbing it, andpeople put it in their hand and
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then they absorb it.
So the long and the short of itis is: where is this coming
from?
Well, that's the avatar's worldand domain.
I can only tell you or reportto you what I've seen, but I
have seen the manifestation ofour a little case.
I was in a place where devoteeswere gathered and a little box,
a silver box, holy ash appearedin the box.
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People took it out in gobs.
The medical doctor was who wascharge of this, was a devotee,
closed it up, said a fewprayers, opened it up, was full
of verbudi again.
Only this time was it was warm.
The first time, it was cold,because he had it in his pocket.
Oh.
He that several times duringthe evening and I was sitting
there just observing this.
It was absolutely amazing.
So I've seen the manifestationof Burbuti, or holy ash.
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I've also seen themanifestation of other things,
in this shrine that I was infrom over time.
So it makes sense.
In the Christian world we have,where people have stigmata
their hand, we also have theVirgin Mary with tears coming
down her eyes.
That's called amaranth and thatappears in other paintings,
religious paintings in otherreligions as well.
So there's something aboutthat, that has to do with prayer
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manifesting into thesesubstances that can be
transmuted or transferred orbecome everything in the essence
of what they are, liquid or ash.
So then, does it not follow,that if I had the power and
ability and enough thought andbelief and faith, I could make
an orange appear in my handright now, out of the air.
But it's not out of the air.
It's the atomic structure orwhatever atoms forming a mass, a
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critical mass, what appearslike an orange.
I believe that's possible.
Les Hubert (18:48):
You've touched upon, you know, how he said he could
reduce everything to an ash.
So the way we should look atthis is because, to me, when
life is, the more I study thesciences and the arts, it's like
climbing into the cockpit of a747 and somebody says, fly it.
And you go, oh my, where do Ieven begin?
You know?
So is it the key to this beingmore spiritual is simplifying?
Douglas James Cottrell (19:12):
No, it's understanding.
I guess the rule is this (19:14):
the only thing that limits us, the
only thing that limits us is thelimits of our thinking.
That's true of everything.
Now, if I were to jump into acockpit of a 747, I think I
could fly it, even before I eventried it, just because I
believe I think I could figureit out.
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You know yoke, steering wheel,gas, you know flaps, brakes,
step on the pedal.
I could kind of have thatfamiliarization and I would know
how to do that.
However, as I would take offand I know you have to pull back
after giving it full power, youhave to pull back and the plane
will go up and then it keepsgoing up until you push the
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stick forward and it levels off.
I know the basics, but beyondthat, I need to have the
experience.
I need to do it.
And so, and also, I need tohave a mentor, right?
I mean, I need to have aco-pilot, more exactly, an
instructor, who says okay,Douglas, no, no, that's the
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brake, no, no, that's the gas.
If you turn this way, theplane's going to rotate over,
it's not going to turn.
Right?
So, having somebody to tell youthe difference between rotation
and yawing and banking, whichare three different ways to turn
the vehicle, you need somebodyto explain that to you, and
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that's where mentors andspiritual teachers and guides
come in handy.
But after a while you get tosolo, you get to try it on your
own and, oh boy.
And then after a while it'skind of old hat.
You know, make a 30 degree turnto the left, you know, ok, no
sweat.
So the point is that, likeeverything else, your spiritual
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development is such that youthink you can do something.
You've seen it, you have anotion to try it.
But you need a mentor,instructor, a teacher to help
you do it correctly.
But you can get there by makingevery mistake in the book,
that's for sure.
But in order to understand that, it's not necessary to be a
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master, to understand thespiritual world completely.
It's only necessary to have anotion, an inkling or a desire
to understand the spiritualworld.
I mean, you see somebodymeditating and you say, hey, I
want to try that.
You see somebody doing yoga andyou go like, hey, I want to be
flexible like that.
You observe something, there'sa trigger point, there's a
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notion, there's an idea, andthat's what gets you on that
path and that's wherespirituality kicks in, in its
various levels.
Of all the different ways toGod, there are maybe 108
different ways.
Meditation is one, spiritualwork is another, but becoming a
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master electrician is anotherway.
Becoming a master mathematicianis another way.
Becoming an opera singer isanother way.
So the specialist in creativityis the way to find a way to God
.
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However, the manifestation ofthings is the ability to have
control over the physical world,and you do that with compassion
, understanding and balance, andthen you're in harmony.
You know, God creates and Goddestroys.
If we understand God being thecreator and the destroyer, the
Alpha and Omega, then we canbegin to see that, okay, God can
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be really nice, God can bereally bad, from our point of
what good and bad is.
You know, you go through theharvest season, we've had a
wonderful summer, there's beenall this bounty, this extra,
this food.
That's wonderful, and we havethis, thank God, this
Thanksgiving time.
And then what happens?
Well, the land goes backthrough the winter and gets
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destroyed.
All the plants that were therein the summertime are now gone,
until next year it starts allover again.
Do we worry about that?
No, we say that's the cycle,that's the way it goes.
The spirituality behind it isthe thought process, it's nature
, it's what we call nature, it'sthe creation and of course it
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has.
.
.
beyond me.
I'm trying to grab an examplehere, but it's beyond our
understanding of what that is
Les Hubert (23:37):
So in wrapping this up, I think people would want to
know should we seek a spiritualpath or are we already on it?
Douglas James Cottrell (23:47):
There it is, right there, Les.
You're on it.
I remember once talking tosomebody in Spain and I was
explaining the concept ofawareness and the consequences
of making mistakes, spiritualmistakes, karma, if you will.
And they said, oh, if that'swhat it is, I don't want any
part of that.
And I said, well, you're herein the world.
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Whether you want to have partof it or not, you know, you're
stuck.
So the idea is that you're on aspiritual path.
If you're consciously aware ofbeing on that path, you have the
advantage and you canshort-circuit, if you will, the
path that you're on.
In other words, you can takeshortcuts.
You can go up the staircaseone at a time.
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you can go up two steps orthree steps at a time.
But that comes from aconsciousness of where you are
and what you're doing.
In other words, you know whenyou walk into a room and there's
ten dollars on the table,you're in the only room and you
know that doesn't belong to you.
The temptation in your mind totake it doesn't even enter your
mind.
You just walk by.
Other people look around andsay, well, snatch, you know.
And they forget that there's abig mirror in the ceiling and
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everybody's watching you.
It's like in Las Vegas whereall the people are watching you
all the time and you forget.
But a spiritually consciousperson knows that that's not
mine and that doesn't belong tome and that if I take that it's
going to cause somebody pain.
So you're constantly looking atA) not causing people pain, B)
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going through the world, whichyou know of things to do.
So you don't do things you knowwithout looking around and
saying I'm going to get awaywith this.
No, you're not.
And by that, you become a justand moral person, and by doing
that, you become a good andupright person, and by becoming
that, you become aself-disciplined person with
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integrity.
And then God says, okay, overhere.
I'm selecting you.
You know, many are called, feware chosen, and that means many
want to be ,.
but But the few that are chosenare chosen by God Almighty,
because God looks on their heart.
For whatever reason, they saythis is the one I want, because
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this one fits the task I have.
For whatever reason, reasonagain, it's not a better or
worse, it's like this is the oneGod .
, And and that's why spiritualbeings come into the world and
develop their life to become ;,perfect, perfect souls in a
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perfect body, experiencing thehighest spiritual experience
they could have as a human being.
Many would like that, but manyfall short.
Number one, one because theydesire it.
So to have no desires, it'skind of like along the way, and
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I don't mean by not desiring acar, material wealth, I'm
talking about having thatbalance where you don't desire
things, they just occur to you.
And if you're along that way,then what you're going to do is
find yourself.
You're going to find out whoyou are, your limits, where you
can be tempted, where you can bechallenged, what you can endure
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, but you'll have aconsciousness, and that
consciousness is what we'reattempting to understand as
perfection.
But remember when Christ was inthe garden and he was about to
be arrested, beat up, crucified,falsely charged and then
executed for just being a goodguy, he knew that was going to
happen to him and he was afraid.
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And he got down on his handsand knees in the garden and he
asked God, please let me out ofthis.
If there's any other way, letme out of it.
But if there isn't, then fromthis cup I will drink deeply,
meaning I will suffer deeply.
I will go through thisexperience to its fullest
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experience.
And that, I think, is what anavatar is about.
You go through all the world'sexperiences until you come to
the end of the line, which hasto be finite because we're in a
finite world.
And so there's a spiritualpath, the path you're on.
Do you know it?
It doesn't matter in thebeginning, but as you begin to
become spiritually mature, yourealize, oh my gosh, I thought I
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had free will and free choice.
It sort of looks like I havefate and destiny and I really
don't have free will and freechoice.
Oh my God.
My free will and free choice islimited to the kind of clothes
I'm wearing while I'm going towork, but I still, on destiny,
have to go to work.
And so then you begin, yousurrender, you obey the divine
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and you become perfected throughtrials and errors and
experiences in life.
So to be spiritual is to knowwhat's right, to find out what's
right, to be right and, inorder to be right, to be humble
and just be.
And that, my friend, that takesa lifetime, or more than one.
Les Hubert (28:56):
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Les?
Where are we going with this inthe future?
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Oh, we've got some interesting things.
We've got a question aboutdeath and what happens to us
when we die.
Where do we go?
What do we do?
Karma versus sin, and quite afew others.
We've got some interestingstuff on the docket for you,
Doug.
I look forward to it.
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Douglas James Cottrell (00:30):
Welcome to the Wake Up, the broadcast
where curiosity leads to deeperunderstanding.
I'm your host, Douglas JamesCottrell, and my good friend and
co-host Les Hubert is here withme, along with editor Jack
Bialik, as we delve into thefascinating realms of life,
metaphysics, spirituality andthe pressing questions that
shape our world.
Good morning, Les.
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What's on the menu today?
Les Hubert (00:53):
Hi Doug.
This question is concerningmany people out there.
In this world, this dimensioncalled the physical, why is just
being spiritual and that's inquotes seem to be not enough,
and some of us are not even surewhat the term spiritual means.
Douglas James Cottrell (01:09):
Well, we're a binary of different
bodies.
We have a spiritual body, wehave a mental body, we have a
physical body, we have anemotional body.
So if we were spiritual, wewouldn't be here in physical
form.
We would be a light, we'd be inthought form or something along
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those lines.
So what does that mean, thatspirituality is not enough?
It's because, as a spiritualbeing in a physical world, we
need to have a physical form.
And so, as we develop ourselvesthrough our spiritual journey,
we need a vehicle.
It's kind of like we're takinga trip and so we have to have a
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vehicle that we can transportourselves from here to there.
So the short answer on that oneis spirituality is not enough,
because what is spirituality?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, if you ask 100 peopleon the street in different parts
of the world, you say, have youever had a spiritual experience
or do you know what a spiritualexperience is?
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And chances are people say, yes, I want to have a spiritual
experience.
But they have no idea what tocompare that with.
They have no reference points,and I guess that's the problem
we have.
We don't have any measurements,reference points, to say, aha,
you've had a spiritualexperience or you're spiritual,
unless we look into thereligions.
And then, as we do so, we haveto look at the metaphysical, the
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mystical, these experiencesthat are beyond everyday
occurrences.
Like somebody having a dream ofthe future, and it occurs.
Like somebody holding theirhand up and something appears in
their hand, like food appearing.
Or divine lights and sparklythings experienced around us,
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and then maybe even the form ofa divine being, an angel, for
instance.
If you saw an angel, what doesan angel look like?
Well, I don't know.
I would expect to be a beingwith big wings and, you know,
maybe a harp or something youknow, all the, all the things
that we've been told what issupposed to be expected.
But what if it just looks likeyou and me?
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Ri ght.
A very loving, kind person.
Chances are that is an angel orit's somebody that comes, in my
experiences, they know exactlywhat your problem is, they know
what to do, they give you theideas, suggestions, or they take
you by the hand and they getyou out of the trouble you're in
.
And usually they don't talkmuch and most often they appear
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in pairs.
One does the talking and onedoes not.
And so when you haveexperienced your expectations,
then you'd say, okay, that wasan angel.
But in understanding whatspirituality is, what a
spiritual experience is, well,having a dream about some event
and then coming true, that's aprophetic dream, that's a
spiritual experience.
Having a feeling of love andcomfort come over you, when
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you're feeling sad and blue, andyou look around and you're the
only one in the room, well,that's being loved by the divine
or by people that are prayingfor you.
And understanding prayer andthought process and meditations
and all those things thatspiritual practices that people
do, those are designed to havespiritual experiences or to
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teach you that there is aspiritual world and that you're
connecting with it.
So why is spirituality notenough?
Well, it's like socks and shoes, isn't it?
You can put on your shoes, butif you don't have your socks,
it's uncomfortable.
If you put on your socks, youdon't put on your shoes, it's
uncomfortable.
But together you have a nice,comfortable pair of shoes to
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walk in and you have socks tocomfort your feet and, ta-da,
you can walk anywhere you want.
So the point being is that inthis world that we're in, to be
a combination of all thedifferent parts you are, and
still keep looking up andseeking to find more in the
heavens above, that's yourspiritual journey.
But you have to deal with themundane: you have to have a
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shower, you have to eat, youhave to go and do things, work
and effort and rest and play andall the things in the physical
world.
But beyond that, there's thatinner desire, that curiosity.
What's above?
And as you reach out, usingcontemplation, meditation,
prayer and all the other things,to reach to the great beyond,
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again through dreams and visionsand other things that go bump
in the night when you sleep,you're on the path, and so it's
kind of like where's thatlifeline?
Sleep, you're on the path, andso it's kind of like where's
that lifeline?
Where can I grab that rope topull myself back up into the
heavens above?
That's your journey.
You're trying to find thatlifeline.
Les Hubert (05:55):
So is it a necessity to learn the spiritual laws?
Because we know we have tolearn the physical laws, like
you just mentioned, taking careof the physical, you know the
mundane.
Is it necessary for us to alsolearn the spiritual laws?
Douglas James Cottrell (06:06):
There's no other way.
You can't learn how to get fromhere to there unless you know
the directions, the road, theroadmap, where the bridges are,
where the stepping stones are,where the pitfalls are.
Which way is the right way?
Are you going up, are you goingdown?
Are you being misdirected?
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So all those things aboutfinding your way is what you
need.
And so you have to go throughthis experience, kind of saying,
okay, hi-ho, hi-ho, here I go.
Where I'm going, I don't know.
And then you find your way.
And as you find your way, youlearn that if you see a hill in
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front of you, it's going to behard to go up, but if you can
find a pathway around the hill,ha-ha, that's the easier way to
take, even though it looks likeit's meandering up the hill,
it's going to be easier than totry to climb up a straight
embankment.
So the spiritual laws there's noadjudication.
Nobody made them up.
For instance, when people askme, sometimes sarcastically, who
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made up these spiritual rulesand these laws, I say, who made
up the law of gravity?
It's there.
But I guarantee, if you don'tknow about the law of gravity
and you step out on a ledge,you're going to fall down and
you're going to find out whatthe law of gravity is, in a big
hurry.
So it's the same thing aboutfinding the laws of the universe
(07:35):
.
They are there.
They are impeccable.
They're not changeable.
They cannot be adulterated.
You might think you can, butyou cannot.
Now, velocity is something thatwe can go up to the speed of
light, but since we haven't beenthere yet, we can theorize what
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it's like.
And there is a theory that asyou approach the speed of light,
time slows down for thetraveler.
To the people who our personleft behind, time continues on,
so they might go out in thespeed of light for a day and
come back and they're one dayolder.
The people that they leftbehind are now 100 days older or
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something to that effect.
So understanding the rules andthe laws is like anything else.
Understanding the rules of theroad.
If you are driving a vehicleand you obey the rules of the
road, you get safely from whereyou started to where you want to
go.
Any infraction of those rulesand you're putting yourself in
(08:38):
jeopardy.
Sometimes you can sneak aroundthem and you know you can speed
up and slow down and get by.
Other times you cannot.
You cross that white line,you're in difficulty.
Les Hubert (08:50):
So these people who seem to be, as you mentioned,
avatars, the people who are veryspiritually advanced in this
world, that are visiting us now,why is it that they seem to be
able to transcend physical law?
Douglas James Cottrell (09:01):
Because they understand physical law.
What is physical?
it.
is It what we think it is.
Have you ever seen martial artspeople having a martial arts?
c
Les Hubert (09:14):
Uh, long time, yeah, some time ago.
Yeah, they're pretty cool.
Douglas James Cottrell (09:17):
They can do things with their body, kick
their legs out, they can kicktheir foot as if it would be a
punch of a fist, they can wraptheir legs around, they can jump
up high, they can roll aroundand survive any combat.
But the point I'm making thatin a very poor description of
that is that they understand therules, but they are like you
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and I.
They are beyond yoga, beingable to stretch or flex the body
.
They are in a frame of mind,they understand the limitations
and beyond, and they can dothings with their body that we
can't (09:55):
stretching their legs and doing the things that they do,
being able to jump up and dowonderful things.
That's a simple thing to saythey understand the laws of
reality, the physical world welive in, and they have adapted,
they have improved, they havechanged, and we watch them.
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We are amazed, but we can dothat too if we apply the same
training that they did.
So the rules in the physicalworld are the limitations on
what we have gone ourselves.
Not everybody wants to be aweightlifter and have huge
muscles.
Not everybody wants to be adistance runner and be very thin
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and lean.
Not everybody wants to be anathletic person where they have
lower body muscles so they canjump up high, like basketball
players, or they need upperstrength, like people who row
boats.
So the reality is what are yougoing to apply yourself in, in
the physical world?
And then you develop to therules and limitations of the
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physical world, you adapt andthen you become in control of
that.
.
However, people tell us thatwe're made of atoms, and around
each atom there's an electronthat spins around, and so
there's a space betweenelectrons and the - the atoms
are made up of nucleus.
And so we, okay, if an atom isa single, tiniest, compact speck
(11:27):
of reality or physical thingsand it has space around it, then
basically, Les, you and I aretransparent.
We're made up of air.
And so, when I put my hand onthe table, meaning that I have
atoms in my hand and atoms onthe table, my hand should be
able to go right through thattable, but it doesn't.
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What's stopping it?
I don't know.
The laws of reality, the lawsof consciousness or different
things that I don't know about,but theoretically, atomic
structure is such that it shouldmerge right through each other.
We just don't know how to dothat yet.
We're locked up and maybe thatthought power, that perception
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of what we are, is what'sstopping us.
You know, beat my chest.
That's solid.
Well, it's solid to some degree, but I guarantee if something
was to come and push on my chest, that was strong enough, my
chest would not be solid.
Les Hubert (12:29):
I've seen video footage of like Sai Baba when he
appeared in India and he coulddo incredible things.
He could bring things out ofmid-air, he.
.
.
We've seen some people havesaid that they saw him
levitating and that he could gothrough solid structure.
Was that because he hadmastered the spiritual laws or
the physical laws?
Douglas James Cottrell (12:45):
Well, that's a very interesting point,
because I've seen some of thatmyself and the manifestation of
things out of thin air.
If you understand thateverything can be reduced to one
common denominator, and that isash.
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Holy ash is called vibhuti.
If everything can be reduced toash, then the ash can be
transmuted into anything else.
Instead of going down, it's nowmanifesting to go up.
So people hold out their handand an orange appears.
In the Christian teachings,Jesus created the multiplication
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of fish and loaves, but he hadto have the fish and loaves to
start.
Oh, just like the water intowine.
He had to have something that hecould transmute into something
else.
Exactly, Les.
That was his first miraclerecorded in the good book and
for any students they know that,you know, his mother came to
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him, mother Mary, and said hey,son, you know we're at this
festival, we're at this wedding,our relatives here are running
out of wine.
Do your thing, you know, dothat thing with the water, you
know, make it into wine.
And he said Mom, come on, youknow it's my time.
I don't want everybody to knowI can do these things.
Oh, mom, and she insisted.
He did it.
And of course the rest ishistory.
(14:07):
We're talking about it today.
So the transmutation of matterfrom one thing to another is a
combination of changing theatomic structure, right?
One atom to another.
You can separate hydrogen andoxygen from water and what have
you got?
Nothing.
The water disappears.
But you put hydrogen and oxygentogether again, do you create
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water?
I guess so, because thoseelements coming together become
what they're made of.
So what if you have the mentalcapability to dissect the atomic
structure and the ability toput it back together differently
, like water into wine?
I'm not sure, I'm not smartenough, I don't know enough, but
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I'm sure there's some chemistsout there who could tell us that
the difference between waterand wine is just a teeny, tiny
little bit of some element orsome atomic structure.
So, as I'm putting forward theidea to change things is, you
need to have the spiritualability, power over things, over
matter, to be able to alter it,change it or manifest it into
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something that you decide to doso.
So there are lots of storiesover the ages of beings that
were able to do this, includingin our own world, in the
Christian world, that the Christwas able to do things .
And, and more recently, in the1980s and 90s, lord Satya Sai
Baba or Bhagwan Satya Sai Babawas able to do that, as was
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Shirdi Sai Baba, the first ofthe three incarnations.
And the third Prema, purdi Saiif Baba and I'm saying that
incorrect, apologize, I he isapologize is the third
incarnation of the prophesiedthree.
.
They, they have the sameability.
He's here in the world now andthey have the same ability to
transmute material.
That's why diseases can go awayin the wave of a hand, because
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the disease is being transmutedinto non-disease and the atomic
structure or the well-being of aperson's body is being
instantly transmuted,transmuteduted or altered to
become .
And, and that's why thesespiritual beings can raise
people from .
the dead In my theoretical mind,how they can do that.
(16:22):
The body is opened up, the soulcomes back and raises the
vibrations of the deceased form,the blood starts circulating
and the body regains its normalhealth or being alive.
Okay, that's not really part ofyour question, but that's kind
of down the road of how we canchange things by thought, by
spiritual power, by being anavatar, having control over the
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physical world and each other,for that matter.
But they don't abuse it.
I've seen Satya Sai Baba wavehis hand in the air and beads
manifest, come out of his handlike a chain of beads, one after
the other.
It's incredible.
Yeah, I've also seen himproduce Vurubuti out of his
fingertips by rubbing it, andpeople put it in their hand and
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then they absorb it.
So the long and the short of itis is: where is this coming
from?
Well, that's the avatar's worldand domain.
I can only tell you or reportto you what I've seen, but I
have seen the manifestation ofour a little case.
I was in a place where devoteeswere gathered and a little box,
a silver box, holy ash appearedin the box.
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People took it out in gobs.
The medical doctor was who wascharge of this, was a devotee,
closed it up, said a fewprayers, opened it up, was full
of verbudi again.
Only this time was it was warm.
The first time, it was cold,because he had it in his pocket.
Oh.
He that several times duringthe evening and I was sitting
there just observing this.
It was absolutely amazing.
So I've seen the manifestationof Burbuti, or holy ash.
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I've also seen themanifestation of other things,
in this shrine that I was infrom over time.
So it makes sense.
In the Christian world we have,where people have stigmata
their hand, we also have theVirgin Mary with tears coming
down her eyes.
That's called amaranth and thatappears in other paintings,
religious paintings in otherreligions as well.
So there's something aboutthat, that has to do with prayer
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manifesting into thesesubstances that can be
transmuted or transferred orbecome everything in the essence
of what they are, liquid or ash.
So then, does it not follow,that if I had the power and
ability and enough thought andbelief and faith, I could make
an orange appear in my handright now, out of the air.
But it's not out of the air.
It's the atomic structure orwhatever atoms forming a mass, a
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critical mass, what appearslike an orange.
I believe that's possible.
Les Hubert (18:48):
You've touched upon, you know, how he said he could
reduce everything to an ash.
So the way we should look atthis is because, to me, when
life is, the more I study thesciences and the arts, it's like
climbing into the cockpit of a747 and somebody says, fly it.
And you go, oh my, where do Ieven begin?
You know?
So is it the key to this beingmore spiritual is simplifying?
Douglas James Cottrell (19:12):
No, it's understanding.
I guess the rule is this (19:14):
the only thing that limits us, the
only thing that limits us is thelimits of our thinking.
That's true of everything.
Now, if I were to jump into acockpit of a 747, I think I
could fly it, even before I eventried it, just because I
believe I think I could figureit out.
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You know yoke, steering wheel,gas, you know flaps, brakes,
step on the pedal.
I could kind of have thatfamiliarization and I would know
how to do that.
However, as I would take offand I know you have to pull back
after giving it full power, youhave to pull back and the plane
will go up and then it keepsgoing up until you push the
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stick forward and it levels off.
I know the basics, but beyondthat, I need to have the
experience.
I need to do it.
And so, and also, I need tohave a mentor, right?
I mean, I need to have aco-pilot, more exactly, an
instructor, who says okay,Douglas, no, no, that's the
(20:19):
brake, no, no, that's the gas.
If you turn this way, theplane's going to rotate over,
it's not going to turn.
Right?
So, having somebody to tell youthe difference between rotation
and yawing and banking, whichare three different ways to turn
the vehicle, you need somebodyto explain that to you, and
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that's where mentors andspiritual teachers and guides
come in handy.
But after a while you get tosolo, you get to try it on your
own and, oh boy.
And then after a while it'skind of old hat.
You know, make a 30 degree turnto the left, you know, ok, no
sweat.
So the point is that, likeeverything else, your spiritual
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development is such that youthink you can do something.
You've seen it, you have anotion to try it.
But you need a mentor,instructor, a teacher to help
you do it correctly.
But you can get there by makingevery mistake in the book,
that's for sure.
But in order to understand that, it's not necessary to be a
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master, to understand thespiritual world completely.
It's only necessary to have anotion, an inkling or a desire
to understand the spiritualworld.
I mean, you see somebodymeditating and you say, hey, I
want to try that.
You see somebody doing yoga andyou go like, hey, I want to be
flexible like that.
You observe something, there'sa trigger point, there's a
(21:44):
notion, there's an idea, andthat's what gets you on that
path and that's wherespirituality kicks in, in its
various levels.
Of all the different ways toGod, there are maybe 108
different ways.
Meditation is one, spiritualwork is another, but becoming a
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master electrician is anotherway.
Becoming a master mathematicianis another way.
Becoming an opera singer isanother way.
So the specialist in creativityis the way to find a way to God
.
(22:26):
However, the manifestation ofthings is the ability to have
control over the physical world,and you do that with compassion
, understanding and balance, andthen you're in harmony.
You know, God creates and Goddestroys.
If we understand God being thecreator and the destroyer, the
Alpha and Omega, then we canbegin to see that, okay, God can
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be really nice, God can bereally bad, from our point of
what good and bad is.
You know, you go through theharvest season, we've had a
wonderful summer, there's beenall this bounty, this extra,
this food.
That's wonderful, and we havethis, thank God, this
Thanksgiving time.
And then what happens?
Well, the land goes backthrough the winter and gets
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destroyed.
All the plants that were therein the summertime are now gone,
until next year it starts allover again.
Do we worry about that?
No, we say that's the cycle,that's the way it goes.
The spirituality behind it isthe thought process, it's nature
, it's what we call nature, it'sthe creation and of course it
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has.
.
.
beyond me.
I'm trying to grab an examplehere, but it's beyond our
understanding of what that is
Les Hubert (23:37):
So in wrapping this up, I think people would want to
know should we seek a spiritualpath or are we already on it?
Douglas James Cottrell (23:47):
There it is, right there, Les.
You're on it.
I remember once talking tosomebody in Spain and I was
explaining the concept ofawareness and the consequences
of making mistakes, spiritualmistakes, karma, if you will.
And they said, oh, if that'swhat it is, I don't want any
part of that.
And I said, well, you're herein the world.
(24:07):
Whether you want to have partof it or not, you know, you're
stuck.
So the idea is that you're on aspiritual path.
If you're consciously aware ofbeing on that path, you have the
advantage and you canshort-circuit, if you will, the
path that you're on.
In other words, you can takeshortcuts.
You can go up the staircaseone at a time.
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you can go up two steps orthree steps at a time.
But that comes from aconsciousness of where you are
and what you're doing.
In other words, you know whenyou walk into a room and there's
ten dollars on the table,you're in the only room and you
know that doesn't belong to you.
The temptation in your mind totake it doesn't even enter your
mind.
You just walk by.
Other people look around andsay, well, snatch, you know.
And they forget that there's abig mirror in the ceiling and
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everybody's watching you.
It's like in Las Vegas whereall the people are watching you
all the time and you forget.
But a spiritually consciousperson knows that that's not
mine and that doesn't belong tome and that if I take that it's
going to cause somebody pain.
So you're constantly looking atA) not causing people pain, B)
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going through the world, whichyou know of things to do.
So you don't do things you knowwithout looking around and
saying I'm going to get awaywith this.
No, you're not.
And by that, you become a justand moral person, and by doing
that, you become a good andupright person, and by becoming
that, you become aself-disciplined person with
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integrity.
And then God says, okay, overhere.
I'm selecting you.
You know, many are called, feware chosen, and that means many
want to be ,.
but But the few that are chosenare chosen by God Almighty,
because God looks on their heart.
For whatever reason, they saythis is the one I want, because
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this one fits the task I have.
For whatever reason, reasonagain, it's not a better or
worse, it's like this is the oneGod .
, And and that's why spiritualbeings come into the world and
develop their life to become ;,perfect, perfect souls in a
(26:19):
perfect body, experiencing thehighest spiritual experience
they could have as a human being.
Many would like that, but manyfall short.
Number one, one because theydesire it.
So to have no desires, it'skind of like along the way, and
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I don't mean by not desiring acar, material wealth, I'm
talking about having thatbalance where you don't desire
things, they just occur to you.
And if you're along that way,then what you're going to do is
find yourself.
You're going to find out whoyou are, your limits, where you
can be tempted, where you can bechallenged, what you can endure
(27:03):
, but you'll have aconsciousness, and that
consciousness is what we'reattempting to understand as
perfection.
But remember when Christ was inthe garden and he was about to
be arrested, beat up, crucified,falsely charged and then
executed for just being a goodguy, he knew that was going to
happen to him and he was afraid.
(27:24):
And he got down on his handsand knees in the garden and he
asked God, please let me out ofthis.
If there's any other way, letme out of it.
But if there isn't, then fromthis cup I will drink deeply,
meaning I will suffer deeply.
I will go through thisexperience to its fullest
(27:45):
experience.
And that, I think, is what anavatar is about.
You go through all the world'sexperiences until you come to
the end of the line, which hasto be finite because we're in a
finite world.
And so there's a spiritualpath, the path you're on.
Do you know it?
It doesn't matter in thebeginning, but as you begin to
become spiritually mature, yourealize, oh my gosh, I thought I
(28:07):
had free will and free choice.
It sort of looks like I havefate and destiny and I really
don't have free will and freechoice.
Oh my God.
My free will and free choice islimited to the kind of clothes
I'm wearing while I'm going towork, but I still, on destiny,
have to go to work.
And so then you begin, yousurrender, you obey the divine
(28:32):
and you become perfected throughtrials and errors and
experiences in life.
So to be spiritual is to knowwhat's right, to find out what's
right, to be right and, inorder to be right, to be humble
and just be.
And that, my friend, that takesa lifetime, or more than one.
Les Hubert (28:56):
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.
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Douglas James Cottrell (29:17):
What have we got coming up next week,
Les?
Where are we going with this inthe future?
Les Hubert (29:20):
Oh, we've got some interesting things.
We've got a question aboutdeath and what happens to us
when we die.
Where do we go?
What do we do?
Karma versus sin, and quite afew others.
We've got some interestingstuff on the docket for you,
Doug.
I look forward to it.
Take care.
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