May 12, 2025 • 39 mins
What if everything you've been told about consciousness only scratches the surface of a much deeper reality? Dr. Douglas James Cottrell takes us on a profound journey through the multiple dimensions of human awareness that science is only beginning to understand.
Through vivid metaphors and practical examples, Dr. Cottrell reveals how our everyday "monkey mind" consciousness represents merely the tip of an iceberg. Below lies the vast and powerful subconscious, which he likens to a bull being led by a small boy holding a rope - when the boy stops running, the bull's momentum carries forward with potentially overwhelming force. This explains why changing established patterns can be so challenging despite our conscious intentions.
Most fascinatingly, Dr. Cottrell illuminates the often-overlooked imagination as the critical bridge connecting our conscious awareness to the deeper "elephant mind" of soul consciousness. This superconscious awareness operates beyond emotion, beyond thinking, perceiving reality directly without the filters that typically distort our understanding.
"We don't think. We see," explains Dr. Cottrell, describing the nature of soul consciousness that manifests through prophetic dreams, intuitive knowings, and creative inspirations that seem to arrive fully formed. The evidence surrounds us - nearly everyone has experienced moments when they "just knew" something would happen before it did, revealing our innate connection to a consciousness that transcends time and space.
Dr. Cottrell's perspective bridges scientific inquiry with spiritual wisdom, suggesting that the greatest minds throughout history - from inventors to artists to scientists - accessed universal consciousness through this same pathway. By learning to quiet the emotional reactivity of our monkey minds and cultivate what he calls "disinterested awareness," we can tap into this deeper intelligence at will.
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Announcer (00:00):
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Douglas James Cottrell (00:30):
Welcome to the Wake Up, the broadcast
where curiosity leads to deeperunderstanding.
I'm your host, Douglas JamesCottrell, and my good friend and
co-host Les Hubert is here withme, along with editor Jack
Bialik, as we delve into thefascinating realms of life,
metaphysics, spirituality andthe pressing questions that
shape our world.
Good morning, Les.
Les Hubert (00:51):
Hey, Doug, we have a lot of people tuning in, so it
should be an interesting showfor us.
Coming up in the future, we'regoing to be talking about
interesting things like possiblehappenings on Mars, what's
going on beneath the pyramids,but tonight's question is a very
interesting one.
The latest research seems to beabout consciousness.
What are the differencesbetween consciousness such as
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the conscious mind, thesuperconscious mind, the
subconscious minds, and arethere any other minds that make
up the entire human beingoverall?
Douglas James Cottrell (01:19):
Well, yes, there is, and I don't know
how many there are.
There are different levels ofconsciousness.
We have spiritually mindedpeople, experts, gurus, saintly
people, people who have studiedthe human mind and consciousness
.
And you know, what reallystruck me one day was, in my
researches, was that there wasno consensus as to what
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consciousness is.
It's something.
And so, you know, I think,therefore, I am was sort of the
acronym for consciousness.
You know, if you could, youknow, think you became quote
unquote self-aware, well thenyou were conscious.
And if you were a sentientbeing who was self-aware, then
you would possess at least aconscious mind that allows you
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to be aware of things in yourenvironment.
You know, like animals, somehow,how do they do it?
They're born and they're upwalking in a very short period
of time.
They instinctively know how todo things that animals do.
Babies, when they come into theworld, human babies, they're
kind of helpless, you know, likethey're, just like you know,
laying there, arms and legs,moving in an uncoordinated
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effect.
So how is it that there's thislevel of coordination in animals
?
They know instinctively what todo, and humans -- well,
there's at least the appearancethat babies are helpless.
However, in some researchesit's found that babies talk,
they grunt, they squeal, theymake sounds.
But the parents are completelyoblivious of these
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communications that the babiesare indicating, like when
they're hungry, when they haveto go, etc.
And I think it was on the Oprahshow.
They had an expert on there whowas saying the language of
babies when a baby's hungry, itwill do certain things.
So the mothers who were in theaudience were like taken aback
because the woman was pointingout what the babies were trying
to communicate in these subtlethings that all babies do.
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They all have the same language, apparently.
And the mothers were like, wow,I didn't know that.
So they knew when the baby washungry and when the baby wanted
a nap, when the baby had to go,and things like that.
So there's.
.
.
Consciousness is what?
It's a recognition of whatother people are trying to
communicate to us on that level.
Okay, we accept that.
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There are people who aresavants.
They are very limited in theirintellectual understandings in
most areas, but they have amasterful consciousness of
perhaps how to play a musicalinstrument, a piano.
They're two years old andthey're playing like a master.
There are people who arequote-unquote mechanically
inclined, as people say.
They just know how to operatetools.
And of course, then there's thegeneration into, well Well,
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it's in their .
, And and I've I put forwardyears ago about the soul DNA.
So there's this consciousnessin the DNA of the soul.
There's a consciousness in theDNA of our physical bodies.
Then there's the conscious mind, the subconscious mind, the
super subconscious mind, theemotional mind, the physical
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mind versus the spiritual mind,the different minds that we have
, like a life, body, energy mind, the nervous systems in the
body.
I mean, when you look at thesubconscious, it runs the body.
We don't think that we have tokeep our heart beating or that
we have to breathe.
We just do it without thinking.
There's that under-the-surfaceconsciousness.
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Now I'm just giving theperiphery of what might be
considered consciousness, butfor our viewers, they want to
know (04:52):
hey, you're awake, this is your conscious mind.
What about going into alpha, ortheta or delta, into the
brainwaves?
How do we get to the lowerlevels and touch upon that super
subconscious mind or the soulmind?
Well, the way to do that isthrough the subconscious mind
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and through the imagination mind.
Not too many people considerimagination as an important
thing, but it can be consideredthe edge of the bubble.
Inside the balloon is the supersubconscious mind.
On the outside of the bubble isthe subconscious mind, and that
difference between those two isthe thin layer that I'm going
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to call the imagination mind.
The way to that is through theimagination.
You know, people talk aboutmeditations, guided meditations,
incubating dreams, coming tosome understanding of
mindfulness and imagination, or,you know, if you can see it,
you can believe it.
What are they talking about?
They're talking about thatlayer between the super
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subconscious mind and theconscious mind and the
subconscious mind, that layer ofthe balloon.
Now, the conscious mind issomething that can be educated.
It has memory, it knows how todiscern, it has logic, and that
particular mind is linear.
You can't get ahead of things,you have to go step by step.
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But that other part of the mind, those lower levels of mind or
inner minds, they just know whatto instinctively do.
Have you ever, Les, hadsomething fell off the table and
you reached over and grabbed it?
Les Hubert (06:34):
Yeah.
Douglas James Cottrell (06:35):
How did you know how to do that?
Les Hubert (06:38):
Good question.
Reflex?
Douglas James Cottrell (06:41):
So that mind, and again, when we put
names and labels on minds, wekind of limit them, don't we --
subconscious mind must bebelow the surface, it's in the
basement, it's subterranean.
No, it's not, it's the greatermind.
This conscious mind is like tenpercent of the subconscious
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mind.
You ask any psychologist,they'll tell you that the
subconscious mind is a morepowerful, greater mind, and that
the conscious mind is like well, it's like the little boy.
It's got a rope in its hand andthe rope is attached to a bull
through the nostrils of the bull.
And so the little boyrepresents the conscious mind.
And when the little boy pullson the rope, the bull's the
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subconscious mind.
So the little boy startspulling the rope through the
processes, belief systems,habits that makes up the little
boy's conscious mind.
So the little boy gets runningand starts pulling on the rope.
What does the bull do?
It starts walking, it startsrunning and then it starts
really going fast.
And then the little boy saysokay, that's enough.
You know what happens, right?
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The bull keeps on running andsplat.
So this is what our consciousmind is.
It's kind of like the, I liketo call it the monkey mind, so
to speak.
It's all over the place, randomaccess, doesn't have a
destination, doesn't have anystructure to it.
And the mind that we're tryingto get to, to the super
subconscious mind, is theelephant mind.
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Slow, methodical, step by step.
However, if an elephant getsrunning and you're pulling it
along and you stop, theelephant's going to run over you
.
So what am I saying here?
It's kind of like the consciousmind is the monkey mind and
we're trying to keep that monkeymind in control, not trying to
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have random access, we're tryingto discipline it, to be focused
and to get in touch with thatpowerful, powerful mind that we
call the subconscious mind andor the super subconscious mind.
Now, because we can't reallydelineate what they are and we
can't ascertain what theparameters of those minds are,
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we can give it these visualizedeffects like a bull running or a
big elephant, and we can kindof grasp what's going on in the
thinking process.
But the conscious mind istriggered by emotion, it's
triggered by memory, I guess youcould say it's diluted by fear,
has memory that's bothering it.
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So all these aspects that arearound the conscious mind, as
you can see, the conscious mindis kind of vulnerable to attack,
suggestion, manipulation, youknow, emotional inputs.
That super subconscious mind,the elephant mind, is not.
It's not affected by emotion atall.
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So that's the differencebetween, the conscious mind is
the bridge between those two,the monkey mind- conscious mind
and the elephant mind- the supersubconscious mind is that
there's a void of emotion.
inIn between between, the
subconscious subconscious, thinkThink of it as a recording .
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, All all the things that happento you from the moment you
become aware in the womb or at ,.
but But some moment you startrecording what's going on in
your environment.
You hear language and you startto record and you begin
understand to language.
S o so that when a baby beginsto talk, it's really bad to talk
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, Baby Talk to a .
, You you know goo, goo, baa baa.
Don't do that.
You're mucking up that littlekid's mind.
Talk to that child as if it'san adult.
Speak correctly, punctuate thewords like you ought to, as if
you were talking to your Englishteacher.
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hink what you're doing is you'reputting the proper recording in
the mind of that child, thatbaby who's like a sponge for
knowledge, right?
So again you're looking forconfirmation to the baby.
Goo-goo-ga-ga, you know, andthe baby's there, oh my God, you
know, baby's kind of like, thisis brand new.
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And I often say to parents whenyou bring the baby home, don't
let any of your relatives goover to the baby carriage, the
crib or the buggy and sticktheir face in front of that kid.
You're going to scare the childbecause all of a sudden this
big face coming down.
Hello, how are you?
Oh good, tickle, tickle.
Les Hubert (11:24):
You see how they react too.
Yeah, you see how they react.
Douglas James Cottrell (11:27):
Yeah, and kids turn shy and they don't
know why.
Well, because they're terrified, if somebody comes over.
Think of it, they're in thecrib, they're vulnerable, they
can't move, they can't get away.
And so, hi, how are you?
And they start squeezing, thekid's face, tickling.
Oh my God, how embarrassing.
But the parents, because it'sin our race- mind, it's behavior
that's happened to us, oh,that's perfectly OK.
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Yeah, but if you're out in thestreet and you're standing there
with your baby and somebodycomes over and sticks their face
in the baby and starts talking,the baby starts screaming.
What do you do?
You push the person away, youwalk away.
So how does the baby know thedifference?
It doesn't.
It just knows what happens toit.
And so I'm using this and I'melaborating on it, because I can
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see the audience out theregoing, oh yeah, that happened to
me.
I can remember that person atthe store, you know, was
scaring the heck out of me.
And on and on and on.
So you understand that what hashappened to you from day one is
recorded, and that recordingbuilds on all your life's
experiences.
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They become your habits, theybecome your reference points,
and so you build on this taperecorder of memory and of
experiences.
So you learn language, you knowhow to behave, you know what's
expected of you and you grow upthat way.
And depending on your familyenvironment, You will adopt
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permanently those aspects thathappen to you in the house or in
school as you grow up to aboutthe age of seven.
I say about, because it couldbe a little sooner or a little
later and then that opensubconscious mind kind of closes
the door and then you havereached the age of reason, it's
called.
So you, as a now recordingdevice, have enough information
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that you can make decisions.
You know how to act and reactin circumstances to just about
everything based on yoursubconscious tendencies.
It doesn't mean they're good orbad.
Worst thing you can do is startscreaming, oh my god, there's a
spider, a spider, oh my God.
You know what's going to happento that child in the house when
they hear spider.
Well boogeyman, right?
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They don't know what the spideris.
They don't see it.
But mommy's on a chair.
So they're afraid of spiders,or lightning, or something else,
dogs barking.
So that's how important thatconsciousness is, in
understanding in the ingrams orwhat's going on at your lower
level of consciousness.
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It's programming you.
.
There's a lot of therapists outthere, there's a lot of people
doing natal therapy andrebirthing therapies.
What are they doing?
Well, they're attempting to godown into those deep, dark
caverns or reaches of yoursubconscious mind and erase
those fears and unnecessarythoughts that are basically
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adulterating your thinking andcausing you to act in behavioral
ways that you don't want to act.
You don't want to be afraid ofspiders, you don't want to be
afraid of the weather orsomething.
I mean you keep telling thechild you're not going to amount
to anything, nobody loves you,you're terrible, you're stupid.
What does the child do?
If you criticize the child allthe time, the child learns up to
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criticize all the time.
So those formative years in thatlevel of consciousness, and I'm
building on that, is what's inyou as a person, multiplied by
your emotions, your experiences,your frame of reference and
your thinking.
However, children rememberbefore they were born.
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Sometimes they rememberpre-existences, and there's a
book out there with 25, 000references of children
remembering their previousexistences.
So that first few months oryears, children see things.
They see shiny lights aroundpeople, they see spiritual
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beings, they remember thegreater consciousness and what
was the pre-existence.
That starts building and that'spart of their soul
consciousness.
They don't forget that.
But they can subdue it or theycan suppress it.
Because when a little childsays, mommy, I see bright lights
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around you.
Mommy says, don't be ridiculous, there's no such thing.
Poof.
The child says itself, Mommysays that those green and purple
beautiful lights that are likea sea of light around Mommy
don't exist, so therefore theycan't be there and they block it
out, only to have a conflictwithin themselves.
And I've had clients say to melater, you know, I can remember
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seeing auras all the time, thatis to say the energy fields
around people's body, measurableby the way, you can measure
that by sensitive equipment.
So that consciousness that'sthere, is subdued, suppressed,
not forgotten.
It's there.
As you get older, things starthappening to you where you have
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a dream and it comes true.
I often say to people (16:35):
can you see the future?
I was in Poland one day, Ithink near Warsaw, and I said
how many people can see, knowthe future and understand the
future?
And one person put their handup.
That was the local lady withthe bangles and the earrings and
gypsies.
.
.
Les Hubert (16:51):
Yeah, sounds like a friend of mine.
Douglas James Cottrell (16:57):
There you go.
So I said to the one person, Isaid, I know you can, okay, just
a minute, let's see what theother people say.
And I asked them (17:01):
do you ever feel or sense something was
going to happen, and then ithappened?
Put your hand up.
About a third of the people did.
There was a third, about athousand people or more.
And then I said did you everjust know something was going to
happen, and then it happened?
And another third of theaudience put their hand up.
And then I said, did you everhave a dream, and then the dream
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came true?
And the final third of theaudience had their hand up.
And so I said, remember, a fewminutes ago you told me that you
couldn't understand, see orperceive the future.
How many of you, all put yourhands up now that had a dream,
had a feeling, just knewsomething was going to happen?
And the whole audience, maybethere was one or two in the
background, the whole audiencewould put their hand up.
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And I would say, how can thatbe?
How can you say that you didn'tsee the future when you have?
It's me addressing them andsaying this in such a way that,
yeah, I had a dream and it cometrue.
Yeah, I had a feeling that thiswas going to happen, then it
did.
And I just knew, without anyconscious connection, that
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something was going to happen.
And I said how did you do that?
That is the soul consciousness,that's a spiritual experience
and that's evidence of the soulmind, the awareness beyond your
conscious mind, beyond yourenvironment, beyond any rhyme
and reason.
No doubt.
This is the thing about yoursoul mind.
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There's no doubt, it just is.
And I like to see the soul mindbecause it understands, it's
aware of everything.
There's no doubt because thereis no emotion.
And since there's no emotion,there just is or there is not.
And so when you're touchingupon that soul consciousness,
when you go to that Samadhiconsciousness, I might be saying
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that incorrect in the Easternway s.
I call it the ever-presentmoment, I call it the
ever-present consciousness.
You're in that moment andthings are happening in
meditation or in that state.
Sometimes you're driving a carand, and all of a sudden, sudden
you look around and say, sayhow'd I get here?
You drove for like a mile downthe road and you don't have any
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recollection.
Or you're walking down a beachand all of a sudden you realize
you've been walking for a while.
You look back and you see yourfootprints in the sand and
you've come a long way, but youhave no recollection of that
walk or how you got there.
That's called the ever-presentmoment.
That level of consciousness istouching upon the soul
consciousness, which is outsideof time; time and space, for
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that matter.
So to understand where you'reseeking to get to that soul
level of consciousness, you cometo a point where there's a
bridge between the consciousmind, the monkey mind, that's
all over the place trying toreason and figure out.
The subconscious mind, whichmakes up a pattern of who and
what you are, because all of thethings that have happened to
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you.
The imagination, that is theconnecting consciousness.
It's the key to get from onemind to the other; a bridge, if
you will.
Getting into that ever-presentmoment, when you're there, when
you're in that state of mind,you can be asked questions and
you know everything aboutsomething.
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But if you're not asked, thatspiritual mind, that soul
consciousness, if it's not askeda question, it doesn't respond
or volunteer anything.
It just sits there in theever-present moment, waiting.
But it's not even reallywaiting, it's just existing.
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So if it doesn't get asked aquestion, no problem.
If you ask it a question, itresponds with an answer like
that, without hesitation,without doubt and without any
adulteration of yoursubconscious feelings, values
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and beliefs, and without anyfear or doubt, because it
perceives.
Somebody once asked me when Iwas about meditation.
They said, Douglas, you know,what do you think about this?
And I was in that QuantumMeditation time and the answer
that came out of me was, wedon't think.
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We see.
Now, when you're in thatconscious mind, that deep state
of meditation, there is thattendency to sound like we, which
is in connection with all theconsciousness around it.
So it responds that way, not tosound vain or anything like
that.
But it was, when my son and I,when that came out, we discussed
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it later, and that was aprofound moment.
We don't think, we perceive.
And so the soul, mind, theever-present moment mind, the
mind that everybody's spendingyears and years and years to
meditate, to get in touch with,doesn't think.
And you can't get there byreason, thought, any kind of
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inclination, any kind ofactivity in using your mind to
think or perceive.
However, it's an awareness,and that awareness is aware to
the point when you know, youwant to know something is going
to be a rainy day on the picnic,and you're in your mind and you
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see rain coming down like crazy, you can think well, that's my
imagination or that's my will,that's what I want to happen or
that's what I'm afraid is goingto happen.
So, learning how to get awayfrom that emotional, let's say,
programming and quiet your mindso that you're disinterested,
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you're disinterested of theoutcome, you will see the truth.
What's causing the adulterationof the vision?
Well, you're biased, you'reprejudiced.
Well, it hasn't rained in twoweeks, you know, so it's going
to rain on Sunday when we havethe picnic.
Okay, wish fulfillment.
Sometimes people, you know,self-fulfilling prophecies.
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You, you can make it rain byfearing it's going to rain.
Okay, that's a differentquestion.
But let's stick to the point isthat when you're disinterested,
when you're just wanting toperceive the truth about
anything, when you get to thatlevel of consciousness where
you're at ease.
This is why, Edgar Cayce orRoss Peterson or Solomon or
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myself you go into a state ofmeditation.
What you're really doing isflinging off all the influences
around you, so that you're justthere and you're almost at a
point of sleep.
And when you're at that point,you're in that bridge, you're in
that zone, and then you can beasked questions and the
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knowledge from the universe ismade available.
But you have to reach out andgrab it by asking a question.
Otherwise, you're looking atthe universe and you're saying,
okay, I want to know an answer.
And we, you know, like to what?
So it needs to focus.
So, in that state of meditation,you present a question, one
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question, and you can be giventhat information.
But you have to train yourselfto be disinterested.
Whether you're right or wrong,doesn't matter.
There just is.
There is not or there is.
So let's, in some sort of pointof view, come back to the
understanding thatconsciousness, again, this is
where the great debate comes,from the scholars much more
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knowledgeable than I am.
They really don't know whathuman consciousness is.
I have an understanding becauseI'm looking at the mystical,
spiritual, metaphysical aspectsof the greater consciousness of
the soul.
Part of the problem is theexperts don't have any tools to
measure it.
Right?
Les Hubert (25:00):
Oh, right, yeah.
Douglas James Cottrell (25:02):
In other ways of measuring, you know,
they have rulers and compassesand volume and weight and
movement or velocity, so theycan measure all those things.
But when you get into thatsuper, super subconscious mind
that is touching upon allknowledge, all dimensions, which
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is available because humanshave done it before.
If more than one person hasdone it, then everybody has the
potential to do it.
When you get to that mind, thenyou need some different
measurements to prove it.
And my measurement is this: it's in the faith measurement. (25:38):
undefined
The faith is built upon thebelief, and the belief in that
faith is built upon the evidencethat you're given.
So if you have a dream and youperceive something is about to
happen, let's say an earthquakesomewhere, and it happens, in
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the earlier stages, oh my God,how could I do that?
How could I understand that?
How did I know that?
How did I perceive that?
I, I, I, I.
That's called the I disease, bythe way.
You say, just a minute, hold on.
You were aware of it.
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Okay, you were aware of it.
It's not I did it.
It's like that combination ofall those minds, from the monkey
mind through to the elephantmind, with the imagination and
all the other subconsciousthings in, set up in order.
I had that dream and it cametrue.
Then you have a vision which isdifferent than a dream.
Then you have a visitation froma deceased relative or a
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spiritual being.
That's different than a dreamand a vision.
Then you find yourself goingthrough the cosmos or the
universe, zooming out in space.
You're fully aware and awake.
And as soon as you're awarethat you're awake, what happens?
You come flying back in the bedand, bang, your body jumps.
That's evidence of your soulreturning from this extensive
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movement, this mind projection,this soul traveling.
That brings you back, thatelastic band, by the way, is
that tether between yourphysical body and the soul.
That's how you get locked up inyour body, as a soul.
So all these different things,and there's much more in the way
of, you know, visiting times inhistorical times and going into
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the future and seeing futuretimes and becoming aware of many
things.
I mean evidence of greatinventors having a dream about
an invention.
Oh sure, yeah.
Douglas James Cottrell (27:39):
It's there.
Okay, how did they do that?
Well, they went out in somedimension where that particular
idea, solution, mechanismexisted and they brought that
thought process, that idea, thatinventive notion, if you will,
into the world.
Of course we all know that somegreat inventions historically
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have been invented by a fewpeople at the same time.
The lawnmower, for instance,the power lawnmower, I was told
by a patent attorney who was inKentucky, that no fewer than 26
patents were applied for aboutthe lawnmower when it came to be
patented.
Wow.
The reason it failed wassomebody, some handyman, took a
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board and took a motor, put itthrough the board, put a blade
on the bottom and used it as theoriginal, in the public
consciousness, lawnmower.
And so all those patentapplications didn't go anywhere
because the idea was in thepublic domain.
But he was impressed.
He said, how did all those nofewer than 26 applications all,
at the same time, come into theworld?
That's because the cosmos sendsus information.
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There's this super, supernatural consciousness.
Our Christian friends talkabout the supernatural.
People in spiritual, call them,think tanks are always
attempting to explore thesupernatural, the universal mind
, the greater consciousness.
That that is.
You know, I am that, that I am.
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That consciousness.
So there's this otherconsciousness that we can touch
upon.
Well, it's still part of us,because we're aware of it.
You know, if a drop is in theocean and you take a drop of
water out and you put it in yourhand, it's still part of the
ocean in your hand.
It is the ocean in your hand.
And that's what our souls arelike: a little drop of water in
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our hand that came from thegreater consciousness, like the
ocean.
So, in a basic understanding, asyou can see, the amount of
information I've just given ouraudience today has, in a very
temporal way, touched upon thedifferent levels of
consciousness, or awareness.
If you want to put it as towhat is human consciousness?
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Well, yes, I think, therefore,I am.
You're self-aware, but theawareness is reaching out like
tentacles everywhere, stringsattached everywhere.
But coming back to yourself,you are a sentient being.
You have a soul that has comeinto a physical body and has
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gone through the birthingprocess, which I had one person
remember.
When they were born, they werereally .
upset Why why did you make die,t hat That I had to come back
and I can't control my and toesfingers.
They were so angry that theyhad to go through this process
of learning to get in touch withthemselves.
But they were thinking and theywere aware.
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That awareness leads you tounderstand the conscious mind,
the subconscious mind, in a verysimple way, as I describe it,
it the imagination mind, thatbridge that connects us all, a
super subconscious mind, thesoul mind that is in contact
with a super supernatural mindthat we can liken to God
(31:05):
Almighty, the God consciousness.
So how does that make sense,?
Les?
Les Hubert (31:10):
Well, what it seems you're alluding to, Doug, is
that there is possibly one mindand we're kind of all tapping
into it.
Am I on the right track there?
Douglas James Cottrell (31:19):
Well, there's the, you know, the
supernatural subconscious mind.
Yeah, that's the awareness ofGod.
Les Hubert (31:26):
But why didn't the Creator just say, I'm just going
to make it simple, because inthe universe we see, as you said
in many occasions, that we livein a universe of duality.
So why not just say, okay, I'mgoing to make it easy on you
guys and we'll just give you onemind with all the, you know,
all the different levels are notthere, just will and we'll hook
into one mind.
Why do they, why do you thinkit's all broken up into
different levels?
Douglas James Cottrell (31:47):
The thought in my head is
You know what it's like to haveten people who do the same thing
and they're in the same familyor the same whatever.
They do the same thing all thetime.
They all like spaghetti, sothey have spaghetti.
Boring.
So these are thoughts coming tomy mind to answer your question
(32:11):
.
I'm not just responding,they're actually occurring to me
.
So what we want to do is wewant to have a smorgasbord of
life, and in order to do that,we can't be the same, we have to
be opposite, that we have to besimilar but different and all
the other ranges in between, sothat we can interact with each
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other.
Think of it this way (32:34):
there you are sitting around having a
card game with all your friendsand you have nothing to talk
about, because all the thingsyou know is what everybody else
knows.
And then somebody comes in andsays hey, did you hear the
latest from Timbuktu?
And they go, no, tell us allabout it, we haven't heard this
(32:56):
before.
And so then there's anevolution, then there's a
development into this new randomaccess information.
So why, if there's a supersubconscious mind, why does God
make it difficult?
God does not make it difficult.
We do.
Because we have I disease; I, I, I.
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That ego part of us, notself-esteem, which is different.
You'll have therapists andcoaches trying to tell you,
you've got to get rid of thatego, you got to kill it.
That's not true.
You don't kill your ego,because it's part of you.
You learn to develop it to havea good self-esteem, to have
pride in yourself, to have asense of achievement and
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accomplishment.
That's good, but ego doesn'tneed to die.
Egotistical aspects -- I'mbetter than, I'm smarter than
the smartest person in the room,blah, blah, blah..
.
Really smart people know thatthey don't know everything.
The really dumb people thinkthey know it all.
There you go, opposites, bang,you know.
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And so you'll find somebodythat really doesn't know a lot,
talks a lot, they tell everybodywhat it is.
And the really wise person sitsthere: mm-hmm, you don't say,
yes, okay.
What's for lunch?
Who cares?
So why does God make it certainways?
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Remember, God doesn't makeanything certain ways.
God provides everything and weare the little tadpoles.
We're swimming around in theconsciousness, trying to figure
it out.
And as we develop into biggerfish, and bigger fish, and
bigger fish, we gain knowledgeand we understand our
environment in a more fuller,concise way.
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So that when little minnows areswimming by, it doesn't bother
us.
When bigger fish swim by, itdoesn't bother us.
We are in our elephant mind.
We are in control, we are atrest, we are fully aware, and
then we know exactly when to do.
Like we perceive athunderstorm's coming, let's go
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inside.
To all the golfers out there onthe golf course, they see the
dark clouds but they want to getone more swing in.
And those are the guys, whenthe thunderstorm hits and the
rains come down, they're theones that come to the clubhouse
all soaking wet.
The smart ones saw the cloudsand they drove there first.
I mean, I've seen that severaltimes.
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And you sit there and you lookout the window and you say, oh
my God, look at those guys.
They're getting soaking wet,there's lightning out t here.
That one's got his golf club upover their head.
Well, they could be crispychicken before they knew what
happened.
hey that awareness is what thewise people go in, but there's a
certain stubbornness about us.
We are separate, we have thishuman ego that is defiant.
(35:52):
And learning how to get pastthat is how to relate to one
another so that you gain theawareness and you don't do dumb
things anymore.
But you have to do the dumbthings to find out that they're
dumb things.
And then you know like, beenthere, done that, I'm not doing
that again.
That's wisdom.
So God doesn't make us doanything.
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God doesn't want us to doanything.
God doesn't make up rules andtells us what the rules are.
Think of it.
Does anybody know what Godthinks?
No, it's impossible.
And if anybody tells you frommy perspective, if anybody tells
you they know what God iswanting you to do and what's
right and what's wrong, by God'sname, no matter how religious
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they are or how important theyare, if they're a military
leader or whatever, they cannotpossibly know what's in the mind
of God.
They just can't.
It's like a little grain ofsand on the beach, knowing what
the ocean is all about.
Impossible.
Now you can have divineinspiration.
You can become aware andperceive what's out there.
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And that's what meditation is.
That's what getting in touchwith, getting that still small
voice inside.
Becoming in touch with thatelephant mind, the greater mind,
but in a very calm andcontrolled way.
And then you become aware ofeverything.
It's like trying to make a cake.
You're watching TV and you'reworking on a crossword puzzle.
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You got the iPad going.
You can't do that.
You can't make a cake.
You can do something that'sgoing to be an abomination, but
it's not going to be a cake.
So, laser focus, calmness,thinking things through, taking
that moment to become wise andaware.
You will find a solution toanything because you're getting
in touch with that greaterconsciousness and, if I can
(37:40):
contradict myself, that's whatGod wants us to find.
That peace, that center pointof love, to become loving to the
point of being able to expressunconditional love to ourselves,
to our neighbors and toeveryone else in the world.
Les Hubert (37:58):
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Douglas James Cottrell (00:30):
Welcome to the Wake Up, the broadcast
where curiosity leads to deeperunderstanding.
I'm your host, Douglas JamesCottrell, and my good friend and
co-host Les Hubert is here withme, along with editor Jack
Bialik, as we delve into thefascinating realms of life,
metaphysics, spirituality andthe pressing questions that
shape our world.
Good morning, Les.
Les Hubert (00:51):
Hey, Doug, we have a lot of people tuning in, so it
should be an interesting showfor us.
Coming up in the future, we'regoing to be talking about
interesting things like possiblehappenings on Mars, what's
going on beneath the pyramids,but tonight's question is a very
interesting one.
The latest research seems to beabout consciousness.
What are the differencesbetween consciousness such as
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the conscious mind, thesuperconscious mind, the
subconscious minds, and arethere any other minds that make
up the entire human beingoverall?
Douglas James Cottrell (01:19):
Well, yes, there is, and I don't know
how many there are.
There are different levels ofconsciousness.
We have spiritually mindedpeople, experts, gurus, saintly
people, people who have studiedthe human mind and consciousness
.
And you know, what reallystruck me one day was, in my
researches, was that there wasno consensus as to what
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consciousness is.
It's something.
And so, you know, I think,therefore, I am was sort of the
acronym for consciousness.
You know, if you could, youknow, think you became quote
unquote self-aware, well thenyou were conscious.
And if you were a sentientbeing who was self-aware, then
you would possess at least aconscious mind that allows you
(02:03):
to be aware of things in yourenvironment.
You know, like animals, somehow,how do they do it?
They're born and they're upwalking in a very short period
of time.
They instinctively know how todo things that animals do.
Babies, when they come into theworld, human babies, they're
kind of helpless, you know, likethey're, just like you know,
laying there, arms and legs,moving in an uncoordinated
(02:26):
effect.
So how is it that there's thislevel of coordination in animals
?
They know instinctively what todo, and humans -- well,
there's at least the appearancethat babies are helpless.
However, in some researchesit's found that babies talk,
they grunt, they squeal, theymake sounds.
But the parents are completelyoblivious of these
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communications that the babiesare indicating, like when
they're hungry, when they haveto go, etc.
And I think it was on the Oprahshow.
They had an expert on there whowas saying the language of
babies when a baby's hungry, itwill do certain things.
So the mothers who were in theaudience were like taken aback
because the woman was pointingout what the babies were trying
to communicate in these subtlethings that all babies do.
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They all have the same language, apparently.
And the mothers were like, wow,I didn't know that.
So they knew when the baby washungry and when the baby wanted
a nap, when the baby had to go,and things like that.
So there's.
.
.
Consciousness is what?
It's a recognition of whatother people are trying to
communicate to us on that level.
Okay, we accept that.
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There are people who aresavants.
They are very limited in theirintellectual understandings in
most areas, but they have amasterful consciousness of
perhaps how to play a musicalinstrument, a piano.
They're two years old andthey're playing like a master.
There are people who arequote-unquote mechanically
inclined, as people say.
They just know how to operatetools.
And of course, then there's thegeneration into, well Well,
(04:01):
it's in their .
, And and I've I put forwardyears ago about the soul DNA.
So there's this consciousnessin the DNA of the soul.
There's a consciousness in theDNA of our physical bodies.
Then there's the conscious mind, the subconscious mind, the
super subconscious mind, theemotional mind, the physical
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mind versus the spiritual mind,the different minds that we have
, like a life, body, energy mind, the nervous systems in the
body.
I mean, when you look at thesubconscious, it runs the body.
We don't think that we have tokeep our heart beating or that
we have to breathe.
We just do it without thinking.
There's that under-the-surfaceconsciousness.
(04:45):
Now I'm just giving theperiphery of what might be
considered consciousness, butfor our viewers, they want to
know (04:52):
hey, you're awake, this is your conscious mind.
What about going into alpha, ortheta or delta, into the
brainwaves?
How do we get to the lowerlevels and touch upon that super
subconscious mind or the soulmind?
Well, the way to do that isthrough the subconscious mind
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and through the imagination mind.
Not too many people considerimagination as an important
thing, but it can be consideredthe edge of the bubble.
Inside the balloon is the supersubconscious mind.
On the outside of the bubble isthe subconscious mind, and that
difference between those two isthe thin layer that I'm going
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to call the imagination mind.
The way to that is through theimagination.
You know, people talk aboutmeditations, guided meditations,
incubating dreams, coming tosome understanding of
mindfulness and imagination, or,you know, if you can see it,
you can believe it.
What are they talking about?
They're talking about thatlayer between the super
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subconscious mind and theconscious mind and the
subconscious mind, that layer ofthe balloon.
Now, the conscious mind issomething that can be educated.
It has memory, it knows how todiscern, it has logic, and that
particular mind is linear.
You can't get ahead of things,you have to go step by step.
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But that other part of the mind, those lower levels of mind or
inner minds, they just know whatto instinctively do.
Have you ever, Les, hadsomething fell off the table and
you reached over and grabbed it?
Les Hubert (06:34):
Yeah.
Douglas James Cottrell (06:35):
How did you know how to do that?
Les Hubert (06:38):
Good question.
Reflex?
Douglas James Cottrell (06:41):
So that mind, and again, when we put
names and labels on minds, wekind of limit them, don't we --
subconscious mind must bebelow the surface, it's in the
basement, it's subterranean.
No, it's not, it's the greatermind.
This conscious mind is like tenpercent of the subconscious
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mind.
You ask any psychologist,they'll tell you that the
subconscious mind is a morepowerful, greater mind, and that
the conscious mind is like well, it's like the little boy.
It's got a rope in its hand andthe rope is attached to a bull
through the nostrils of the bull.
And so the little boyrepresents the conscious mind.
And when the little boy pullson the rope, the bull's the
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subconscious mind.
So the little boy startspulling the rope through the
processes, belief systems,habits that makes up the little
boy's conscious mind.
So the little boy gets runningand starts pulling on the rope.
What does the bull do?
It starts walking, it startsrunning and then it starts
really going fast.
And then the little boy saysokay, that's enough.
You know what happens, right?
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The bull keeps on running andsplat.
So this is what our consciousmind is.
It's kind of like the, I liketo call it the monkey mind, so
to speak.
It's all over the place, randomaccess, doesn't have a
destination, doesn't have anystructure to it.
And the mind that we're tryingto get to, to the super
subconscious mind, is theelephant mind.
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Slow, methodical, step by step.
However, if an elephant getsrunning and you're pulling it
along and you stop, theelephant's going to run over you
.
So what am I saying here?
It's kind of like the consciousmind is the monkey mind and
we're trying to keep that monkeymind in control, not trying to
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have random access, we're tryingto discipline it, to be focused
and to get in touch with thatpowerful, powerful mind that we
call the subconscious mind andor the super subconscious mind.
Now, because we can't reallydelineate what they are and we
can't ascertain what theparameters of those minds are,
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we can give it these visualizedeffects like a bull running or a
big elephant, and we can kindof grasp what's going on in the
thinking process.
But the conscious mind istriggered by emotion, it's
triggered by memory, I guess youcould say it's diluted by fear,
has memory that's bothering it.
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So all these aspects that arearound the conscious mind, as
you can see, the conscious mindis kind of vulnerable to attack,
suggestion, manipulation, youknow, emotional inputs.
That super subconscious mind,the elephant mind, is not.
It's not affected by emotion atall.
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So that's the differencebetween, the conscious mind is
the bridge between those two,the monkey mind- conscious mind
and the elephant mind- the supersubconscious mind is that
there's a void of emotion.
inIn between between, the
subconscious subconscious, thinkThink of it as a recording .
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, All all the things that happento you from the moment you
become aware in the womb or at ,.
but But some moment you startrecording what's going on in
your environment.
You hear language and you startto record and you begin
understand to language.
S o so that when a baby beginsto talk, it's really bad to talk
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, Baby Talk to a .
, You you know goo, goo, baa baa.
Don't do that.
You're mucking up that littlekid's mind.
Talk to that child as if it'san adult.
Speak correctly, punctuate thewords like you ought to, as if
you were talking to your Englishteacher.
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hink what you're doing is you'reputting the proper recording in
the mind of that child, thatbaby who's like a sponge for
knowledge, right?
So again you're looking forconfirmation to the baby.
Goo-goo-ga-ga, you know, andthe baby's there, oh my God, you
know, baby's kind of like, thisis brand new.
(11:02):
And I often say to parents whenyou bring the baby home, don't
let any of your relatives goover to the baby carriage, the
crib or the buggy and sticktheir face in front of that kid.
You're going to scare the childbecause all of a sudden this
big face coming down.
Hello, how are you?
Oh good, tickle, tickle.
Les Hubert (11:24):
You see how they react too.
Yeah, you see how they react.
Douglas James Cottrell (11:27):
Yeah, and kids turn shy and they don't
know why.
Well, because they're terrified, if somebody comes over.
Think of it, they're in thecrib, they're vulnerable, they
can't move, they can't get away.
And so, hi, how are you?
And they start squeezing, thekid's face, tickling.
Oh my God, how embarrassing.
But the parents, because it'sin our race- mind, it's behavior
that's happened to us, oh,that's perfectly OK.
(11:49):
Yeah, but if you're out in thestreet and you're standing there
with your baby and somebodycomes over and sticks their face
in the baby and starts talking,the baby starts screaming.
What do you do?
You push the person away, youwalk away.
So how does the baby know thedifference?
It doesn't.
It just knows what happens toit.
And so I'm using this and I'melaborating on it, because I can
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see the audience out theregoing, oh yeah, that happened to
me.
I can remember that person atthe store, you know, was
scaring the heck out of me.
And on and on and on.
So you understand that what hashappened to you from day one is
recorded, and that recordingbuilds on all your life's
experiences.
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They become your habits, theybecome your reference points,
and so you build on this taperecorder of memory and of
experiences.
So you learn language, you knowhow to behave, you know what's
expected of you and you grow upthat way.
And depending on your familyenvironment, You will adopt
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permanently those aspects thathappen to you in the house or in
school as you grow up to aboutthe age of seven.
I say about, because it couldbe a little sooner or a little
later and then that opensubconscious mind kind of closes
the door and then you havereached the age of reason, it's
called.
So you, as a now recordingdevice, have enough information
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that you can make decisions.
You know how to act and reactin circumstances to just about
everything based on yoursubconscious tendencies.
It doesn't mean they're good orbad.
Worst thing you can do is startscreaming, oh my god, there's a
spider, a spider, oh my God.
You know what's going to happento that child in the house when
they hear spider.
Well boogeyman, right?
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They don't know what the spideris.
They don't see it.
But mommy's on a chair.
So they're afraid of spiders,or lightning, or something else,
dogs barking.
So that's how important thatconsciousness is, in
understanding in the ingrams orwhat's going on at your lower
level of consciousness.
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It's programming you.
.
There's a lot of therapists outthere, there's a lot of people
doing natal therapy andrebirthing therapies.
What are they doing?
Well, they're attempting to godown into those deep, dark
caverns or reaches of yoursubconscious mind and erase
those fears and unnecessarythoughts that are basically
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adulterating your thinking andcausing you to act in behavioral
ways that you don't want to act.
You don't want to be afraid ofspiders, you don't want to be
afraid of the weather orsomething.
I mean you keep telling thechild you're not going to amount
to anything, nobody loves you,you're terrible, you're stupid.
What does the child do?
If you criticize the child allthe time, the child learns up to
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criticize all the time.
So those formative years in thatlevel of consciousness, and I'm
building on that, is what's inyou as a person, multiplied by
your emotions, your experiences,your frame of reference and
your thinking.
However, children rememberbefore they were born.
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Sometimes they rememberpre-existences, and there's a
book out there with 25, 000references of children
remembering their previousexistences.
So that first few months oryears, children see things.
They see shiny lights aroundpeople, they see spiritual
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beings, they remember thegreater consciousness and what
was the pre-existence.
That starts building and that'spart of their soul
consciousness.
They don't forget that.
But they can subdue it or theycan suppress it.
Because when a little childsays, mommy, I see bright lights
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around you.
Mommy says, don't be ridiculous, there's no such thing.
Poof.
The child says itself, Mommysays that those green and purple
beautiful lights that are likea sea of light around Mommy
don't exist, so therefore theycan't be there and they block it
out, only to have a conflictwithin themselves.
And I've had clients say to melater, you know, I can remember
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seeing auras all the time, thatis to say the energy fields
around people's body, measurableby the way, you can measure
that by sensitive equipment.
So that consciousness that'sthere, is subdued, suppressed,
not forgotten.
It's there.
As you get older, things starthappening to you where you have
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a dream and it comes true.
I often say to people (16:35):
can you see the future?
I was in Poland one day, Ithink near Warsaw, and I said
how many people can see, knowthe future and understand the
future?
And one person put their handup.
That was the local lady withthe bangles and the earrings and
gypsies.
.
.
Les Hubert (16:51):
Yeah, sounds like a friend of mine.
Douglas James Cottrell (16:57):
There you go.
So I said to the one person, Isaid, I know you can, okay, just
a minute, let's see what theother people say.
And I asked them (17:01):
do you ever feel or sense something was
going to happen, and then ithappened?
Put your hand up.
About a third of the people did.
There was a third, about athousand people or more.
And then I said did you everjust know something was going to
happen, and then it happened?
And another third of theaudience put their hand up.
And then I said, did you everhave a dream, and then the dream
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came true?
And the final third of theaudience had their hand up.
And so I said, remember, a fewminutes ago you told me that you
couldn't understand, see orperceive the future.
How many of you, all put yourhands up now that had a dream,
had a feeling, just knewsomething was going to happen?
And the whole audience, maybethere was one or two in the
background, the whole audiencewould put their hand up.
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And I would say, how can thatbe?
How can you say that you didn'tsee the future when you have?
It's me addressing them andsaying this in such a way that,
yeah, I had a dream and it cometrue.
Yeah, I had a feeling that thiswas going to happen, then it
did.
And I just knew, without anyconscious connection, that
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something was going to happen.
And I said how did you do that?
That is the soul consciousness,that's a spiritual experience
and that's evidence of the soulmind, the awareness beyond your
conscious mind, beyond yourenvironment, beyond any rhyme
and reason.
No doubt.
This is the thing about yoursoul mind.
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There's no doubt, it just is.
And I like to see the soul mindbecause it understands, it's
aware of everything.
There's no doubt because thereis no emotion.
And since there's no emotion,there just is or there is not.
And so when you're touchingupon that soul consciousness,
when you go to that Samadhiconsciousness, I might be saying
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that incorrect in the Easternway s.
I call it the ever-presentmoment, I call it the
ever-present consciousness.
You're in that moment andthings are happening in
meditation or in that state.
Sometimes you're driving a carand, and all of a sudden, sudden
you look around and say, sayhow'd I get here?
You drove for like a mile downthe road and you don't have any
(19:12):
recollection.
Or you're walking down a beachand all of a sudden you realize
you've been walking for a while.
You look back and you see yourfootprints in the sand and
you've come a long way, but youhave no recollection of that
walk or how you got there.
That's called the ever-presentmoment.
That level of consciousness istouching upon the soul
consciousness, which is outsideof time; time and space, for
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that matter.
So to understand where you'reseeking to get to that soul
level of consciousness, you cometo a point where there's a
bridge between the consciousmind, the monkey mind, that's
all over the place trying toreason and figure out.
The subconscious mind, whichmakes up a pattern of who and
what you are, because all of thethings that have happened to
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you.
The imagination, that is theconnecting consciousness.
It's the key to get from onemind to the other; a bridge, if
you will.
Getting into that ever-presentmoment, when you're there, when
you're in that state of mind,you can be asked questions and
you know everything aboutsomething.
(20:19):
But if you're not asked, thatspiritual mind, that soul
consciousness, if it's not askeda question, it doesn't respond
or volunteer anything.
It just sits there in theever-present moment, waiting.
But it's not even reallywaiting, it's just existing.
(20:42):
So if it doesn't get asked aquestion, no problem.
If you ask it a question, itresponds with an answer like
that, without hesitation,without doubt and without any
adulteration of yoursubconscious feelings, values
(21:02):
and beliefs, and without anyfear or doubt, because it
perceives.
Somebody once asked me when Iwas about meditation.
They said, Douglas, you know,what do you think about this?
And I was in that QuantumMeditation time and the answer
that came out of me was, wedon't think.
(21:24):
We see.
Now, when you're in thatconscious mind, that deep state
of meditation, there is thattendency to sound like we, which
is in connection with all theconsciousness around it.
So it responds that way, not tosound vain or anything like
that.
But it was, when my son and I,when that came out, we discussed
(21:44):
it later, and that was aprofound moment.
We don't think, we perceive.
And so the soul, mind, theever-present moment mind, the
mind that everybody's spendingyears and years and years to
meditate, to get in touch with,doesn't think.
And you can't get there byreason, thought, any kind of
(22:07):
inclination, any kind ofactivity in using your mind to
think or perceive.
However, it's an awareness,and that awareness is aware to
the point when you know, youwant to know something is going
to be a rainy day on the picnic,and you're in your mind and you
(22:28):
see rain coming down like crazy, you can think well, that's my
imagination or that's my will,that's what I want to happen or
that's what I'm afraid is goingto happen.
So, learning how to get awayfrom that emotional, let's say,
programming and quiet your mindso that you're disinterested,
(22:49):
you're disinterested of theoutcome, you will see the truth.
What's causing the adulterationof the vision?
Well, you're biased, you'reprejudiced.
Well, it hasn't rained in twoweeks, you know, so it's going
to rain on Sunday when we havethe picnic.
Okay, wish fulfillment.
Sometimes people, you know,self-fulfilling prophecies.
(23:09):
You, you can make it rain byfearing it's going to rain.
Okay, that's a differentquestion.
But let's stick to the point isthat when you're disinterested,
when you're just wanting toperceive the truth about
anything, when you get to thatlevel of consciousness where
you're at ease.
This is why, Edgar Cayce orRoss Peterson or Solomon or
(23:32):
myself you go into a state ofmeditation.
What you're really doing isflinging off all the influences
around you, so that you're justthere and you're almost at a
point of sleep.
And when you're at that point,you're in that bridge, you're in
that zone, and then you can beasked questions and the
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knowledge from the universe ismade available.
But you have to reach out andgrab it by asking a question.
Otherwise, you're looking atthe universe and you're saying,
okay, I want to know an answer.
And we, you know, like to what?
So it needs to focus.
So, in that state of meditation,you present a question, one
(24:17):
question, and you can be giventhat information.
But you have to train yourselfto be disinterested.
Whether you're right or wrong,doesn't matter.
There just is.
There is not or there is.
So let's, in some sort of pointof view, come back to the
understanding thatconsciousness, again, this is
where the great debate comes,from the scholars much more
(24:40):
knowledgeable than I am.
They really don't know whathuman consciousness is.
I have an understanding becauseI'm looking at the mystical,
spiritual, metaphysical aspectsof the greater consciousness of
the soul.
Part of the problem is theexperts don't have any tools to
measure it.
Right?
Les Hubert (25:00):
Oh, right, yeah.
Douglas James Cottrell (25:02):
In other ways of measuring, you know,
they have rulers and compassesand volume and weight and
movement or velocity, so theycan measure all those things.
But when you get into thatsuper, super subconscious mind
that is touching upon allknowledge, all dimensions, which
(25:24):
is available because humanshave done it before.
If more than one person hasdone it, then everybody has the
potential to do it.
When you get to that mind, thenyou need some different
measurements to prove it.
And my measurement is this: it's in the faith measurement. (25:38):
undefined
The faith is built upon thebelief, and the belief in that
faith is built upon the evidencethat you're given.
So if you have a dream and youperceive something is about to
happen, let's say an earthquakesomewhere, and it happens, in
(26:02):
the earlier stages, oh my God,how could I do that?
How could I understand that?
How did I know that?
How did I perceive that?
I, I, I, I.
That's called the I disease, bythe way.
You say, just a minute, hold on.
You were aware of it.
(26:22):
Okay, you were aware of it.
It's not I did it.
It's like that combination ofall those minds, from the monkey
mind through to the elephantmind, with the imagination and
all the other subconsciousthings in, set up in order.
I had that dream and it cametrue.
Then you have a vision which isdifferent than a dream.
Then you have a visitation froma deceased relative or a
(26:43):
spiritual being.
That's different than a dreamand a vision.
Then you find yourself goingthrough the cosmos or the
universe, zooming out in space.
You're fully aware and awake.
And as soon as you're awarethat you're awake, what happens?
You come flying back in the bedand, bang, your body jumps.
That's evidence of your soulreturning from this extensive
(27:07):
movement, this mind projection,this soul traveling.
That brings you back, thatelastic band, by the way, is
that tether between yourphysical body and the soul.
That's how you get locked up inyour body, as a soul.
So all these different things,and there's much more in the way
of, you know, visiting times inhistorical times and going into
(27:29):
the future and seeing futuretimes and becoming aware of many
things.
I mean evidence of greatinventors having a dream about
an invention.
Oh sure, yeah.
Douglas James Cottrell (27:39):
It's there.
Okay, how did they do that?
Well, they went out in somedimension where that particular
idea, solution, mechanismexisted and they brought that
thought process, that idea, thatinventive notion, if you will,
into the world.
Of course we all know that somegreat inventions historically
(28:01):
have been invented by a fewpeople at the same time.
The lawnmower, for instance,the power lawnmower, I was told
by a patent attorney who was inKentucky, that no fewer than 26
patents were applied for aboutthe lawnmower when it came to be
patented.
Wow.
The reason it failed wassomebody, some handyman, took a
(28:29):
board and took a motor, put itthrough the board, put a blade
on the bottom and used it as theoriginal, in the public
consciousness, lawnmower.
And so all those patentapplications didn't go anywhere
because the idea was in thepublic domain.
But he was impressed.
He said, how did all those nofewer than 26 applications all,
at the same time, come into theworld?
That's because the cosmos sendsus information.
(28:50):
There's this super, supernatural consciousness.
Our Christian friends talkabout the supernatural.
People in spiritual, call them,think tanks are always
attempting to explore thesupernatural, the universal mind
, the greater consciousness.
That that is.
You know, I am that, that I am.
(29:12):
That consciousness.
So there's this otherconsciousness that we can touch
upon.
Well, it's still part of us,because we're aware of it.
You know, if a drop is in theocean and you take a drop of
water out and you put it in yourhand, it's still part of the
ocean in your hand.
It is the ocean in your hand.
And that's what our souls arelike: a little drop of water in
(29:34):
our hand that came from thegreater consciousness, like the
ocean.
So, in a basic understanding, asyou can see, the amount of
information I've just given ouraudience today has, in a very
temporal way, touched upon thedifferent levels of
consciousness, or awareness.
If you want to put it as towhat is human consciousness?
(29:56):
Well, yes, I think, therefore,I am.
You're self-aware, but theawareness is reaching out like
tentacles everywhere, stringsattached everywhere.
But coming back to yourself,you are a sentient being.
You have a soul that has comeinto a physical body and has
(30:18):
gone through the birthingprocess, which I had one person
remember.
When they were born, they werereally .
upset Why why did you make die,t hat That I had to come back
and I can't control my and toesfingers.
They were so angry that theyhad to go through this process
of learning to get in touch withthemselves.
But they were thinking and theywere aware.
(30:40):
That awareness leads you tounderstand the conscious mind,
the subconscious mind, in a verysimple way, as I describe it,
it the imagination mind, thatbridge that connects us all, a
super subconscious mind, thesoul mind that is in contact
with a super supernatural mindthat we can liken to God
(31:05):
Almighty, the God consciousness.
So how does that make sense,?
Les?
Les Hubert (31:10):
Well, what it seems you're alluding to, Doug, is
that there is possibly one mindand we're kind of all tapping
into it.
Am I on the right track there?
Douglas James Cottrell (31:19):
Well, there's the, you know, the
supernatural subconscious mind.
Yeah, that's the awareness ofGod.
Les Hubert (31:26):
But why didn't the Creator just say, I'm just going
to make it simple, because inthe universe we see, as you said
in many occasions, that we livein a universe of duality.
So why not just say, okay, I'mgoing to make it easy on you
guys and we'll just give you onemind with all the, you know,
all the different levels are notthere, just will and we'll hook
into one mind.
Why do they, why do you thinkit's all broken up into
different levels?
Douglas James Cottrell (31:47):
The thought in my head is
You know what it's like to haveten people who do the same thing
and they're in the same familyor the same whatever.
They do the same thing all thetime.
They all like spaghetti, sothey have spaghetti.
Boring.
So these are thoughts coming tomy mind to answer your question
(32:11):
.
I'm not just responding,they're actually occurring to me
.
So what we want to do is wewant to have a smorgasbord of
life, and in order to do that,we can't be the same, we have to
be opposite, that we have to besimilar but different and all
the other ranges in between, sothat we can interact with each
(32:34):
other.
Think of it this way (32:34):
there you are sitting around having a
card game with all your friendsand you have nothing to talk
about, because all the thingsyou know is what everybody else
knows.
And then somebody comes in andsays hey, did you hear the
latest from Timbuktu?
And they go, no, tell us allabout it, we haven't heard this
(32:56):
before.
And so then there's anevolution, then there's a
development into this new randomaccess information.
So why, if there's a supersubconscious mind, why does God
make it difficult?
God does not make it difficult.
We do.
Because we have I disease; I, I, I.
(33:19):
That ego part of us, notself-esteem, which is different.
You'll have therapists andcoaches trying to tell you,
you've got to get rid of thatego, you got to kill it.
That's not true.
You don't kill your ego,because it's part of you.
You learn to develop it to havea good self-esteem, to have
pride in yourself, to have asense of achievement and
(33:42):
accomplishment.
That's good, but ego doesn'tneed to die.
Egotistical aspects -- I'mbetter than, I'm smarter than
the smartest person in the room,blah, blah, blah..
.
Really smart people know thatthey don't know everything.
The really dumb people thinkthey know it all.
There you go, opposites, bang,you know.
(34:02):
And so you'll find somebodythat really doesn't know a lot,
talks a lot, they tell everybodywhat it is.
And the really wise person sitsthere: mm-hmm, you don't say,
yes, okay.
What's for lunch?
Who cares?
So why does God make it certainways?
(34:23):
Remember, God doesn't makeanything certain ways.
God provides everything and weare the little tadpoles.
We're swimming around in theconsciousness, trying to figure
it out.
And as we develop into biggerfish, and bigger fish, and
bigger fish, we gain knowledgeand we understand our
environment in a more fuller,concise way.
(34:45):
So that when little minnows areswimming by, it doesn't bother
us.
When bigger fish swim by, itdoesn't bother us.
We are in our elephant mind.
We are in control, we are atrest, we are fully aware, and
then we know exactly when to do.
Like we perceive athunderstorm's coming, let's go
(35:07):
inside.
To all the golfers out there onthe golf course, they see the
dark clouds but they want to getone more swing in.
And those are the guys, whenthe thunderstorm hits and the
rains come down, they're theones that come to the clubhouse
all soaking wet.
The smart ones saw the cloudsand they drove there first.
I mean, I've seen that severaltimes.
(35:28):
And you sit there and you lookout the window and you say, oh
my God, look at those guys.
They're getting soaking wet,there's lightning out t here.
That one's got his golf club upover their head.
Well, they could be crispychicken before they knew what
happened.
hey that awareness is what thewise people go in, but there's a
certain stubbornness about us.
We are separate, we have thishuman ego that is defiant.
(35:52):
And learning how to get pastthat is how to relate to one
another so that you gain theawareness and you don't do dumb
things anymore.
But you have to do the dumbthings to find out that they're
dumb things.
And then you know like, beenthere, done that, I'm not doing
that again.
That's wisdom.
So God doesn't make us doanything.
(36:12):
God doesn't want us to doanything.
God doesn't make up rules andtells us what the rules are.
Think of it.
Does anybody know what Godthinks?
No, it's impossible.
And if anybody tells you frommy perspective, if anybody tells
you they know what God iswanting you to do and what's
right and what's wrong, by God'sname, no matter how religious
(36:35):
they are or how important theyare, if they're a military
leader or whatever, they cannotpossibly know what's in the mind
of God.
They just can't.
It's like a little grain ofsand on the beach, knowing what
the ocean is all about.
Impossible.
Now you can have divineinspiration.
You can become aware andperceive what's out there.
(36:56):
And that's what meditation is.
That's what getting in touchwith, getting that still small
voice inside.
Becoming in touch with thatelephant mind, the greater mind,
but in a very calm andcontrolled way.
And then you become aware ofeverything.
It's like trying to make a cake.
You're watching TV and you'reworking on a crossword puzzle.
(37:17):
You got the iPad going.
You can't do that.
You can't make a cake.
You can do something that'sgoing to be an abomination, but
it's not going to be a cake.
So, laser focus, calmness,thinking things through, taking
that moment to become wise andaware.
You will find a solution toanything because you're getting
in touch with that greaterconsciousness and, if I can
(37:40):
contradict myself, that's whatGod wants us to find.
That peace, that center pointof love, to become loving to the
point of being able to expressunconditional love to ourselves,
to our neighbors and toeveryone else in the world.
Les Hubert (37:58):
Well, thank you, Doug, for a great podcast.
Ladies and gentlemen, if youlike the show, please go to
douglasjamescottrell.
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And a big shout out to Jack,Malutin and Larry for your great
help with the podcast.
We deeply appreciate your helpand we will be talking about
very interesting things comingup in the future, such as
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possible alien contact,mysteries beneath the pyramid
and what's going on, on theplanet Mars.
Thank you.
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