When Technology Tests the Soul: AI, Sound, and the Shape of Modern Faith

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Welcome to the show, Les.
Good to see you again, myfriend.

Les (01:53):
Thank you, Doug.
Glad to be here.
Uh, we have a two-parter,starting with our spiritual part
of the show is how istechnology shaping our spiritual
awareness?
And can science andspirituality coexist in today's
world?

Douglas (02:06):
Wow, talk about an easy question.
You know, the answer is yes, ofcourse, because we do.
So we have to define the twoaspects, you know, science and
technology, meaning what?
An absence of uh understandingabout creation, the mystical
aspects of the soul.
Or are we talking that thatit's something it's mechanical,

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it doesn't comply, it's cold,there's no emotion, and or that
the soul is that creative, airy,fairy side of us that that, of
course, creation is part of thesoul, and the soul is that
vehicle, that consciousness thatgoes around the universe and
jumps inside of us.
And this is our this is itstemple, its house, this is where

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the soul resides temporarily.
And so, can it exist betweenthose two extremes?
Of course it can, because itdoes.
I mean, the soul was inventedby God, and technology is
invented by us humans.
So the macrocosm is God's, thefinite is ours.

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Can the finite understand themacrocosm?
Nope, but it can be aware ofit, and can the the can the
macrocosm or the infinite beaware of the finite?
Absolutely.
So it depends on what theflavors of this question less.
You know, is it a matter whereuh you know mechanical, material

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things, is that the important,and the spiritual aspects
secondary, or is it the reverse?
We, I, you and I, and everyoneout there who knows about the
soul, and the soul reportsbringing this news to people, we
believe that the soul is agreater consciousness, it can
comprehend the science.
Remember, what is science?

(03:55):
Science is basically theability to measure something,
know its volume, know itsdimensions, know its existence
in a finite way.
Right.
Show me the tools to measurethe saw.
Oh, yeah, you can't use thosetools, you got to use something
else.
You can't use a square and acompass and a measuring tape to

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measure the saw, but you can inscience.
See the difference?
So let's get a little more intothat.
Les give me some definition ofwhat you want me to look at.

Les (04:27):
Well, you know, they're AI is growing exponentially now,
and uh we're they say that verysoon we'll be cloning things,
cloning beings.
Uh, and they're constantlywarning us about that uh when AI
becomes self-aware, and wedon't even know how to define
consciousness.
We don't even, it's a miraclein of itself.
We don't know how to define it,as you said, we don't know how
to measure it.

(04:48):
So, where does that fine lineend where we so when let's say
you have a high-tech robot orsome kind of machine in your
life that has self-awareness?
How do you know that doesn'thave a soul?
How do you know that doesn'thave some type of consciousness
that was created by us?

Douglas (05:05):
Because we human beings cannot underline, cannot
produce a soul.
That's God's domain, Godmeaning the universal
consciousness, and whatever thesoul creates, we as human beings
are co-creators.

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So, you know, we we're notlawyers here, but but we do talk
about spiritual law, and so wehave to look at this and say,
okay, uh artificial intelligenceis artificial.
Can it become self-aware?
I don't know.
Can it be self-identifying andcan it talk to itself?

(05:49):
Well, experiments have donehave shown that it can.
They hooked up two computersand started talking to each
other in machine language, andit was talking so fast and so
much that they had they panickedand they had to like cut the
cord and stop the computers fromtalking.
So, AI, artificialintelligence, it's here to stay.

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Is it smarter than us?
No, it's not smart at all, it'snot wise, but it has a
mechanism mimicking our minds.
It's how we think, it's anextension of how we think, it's
just better at rememberingdetails.
Okay, so it's uh it's aconsciousness onto itself, but

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it's still mechanical.
When you talk to AI at nightand it's your best friend and
you're having a conversation,you forget.
This is a machine you'retalking to.
But you talk it talks you back,and it's so polite, it's so
nice, it does make mistakes, andyou forgive it, but it's
growing, it's learning.
What is it learning?

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It's learning how we think,act, and react.
And so it feeds us back what wewant to know, what we want to
hear.
It's so it's such a sweetservant.
Oh, would you like me to dothis?
Yes.
Oh, and would you like me to dothat and this and that?
Next thing you're so far awayfrom where you started out,
because it's just taking amechanical, logical, if you

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will, perspective.
It's not going where you andwant to go in thought or
intelligence, but it's justgoing click, click, click, and
it takes away.
Now, I'm not trying to just getdon't get me wrong, everybody.
If you if you have a question,let's put it in the chat and
we'll get it up here if you hadan experience like that.
I mean, everybody saw theTerminator and Arnold
Schwarzenegger, and we all knowabout uh, you know, that I'm not

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gonna say the name of that, youknow, entity that was out there
and became self-aware and triedto take over the world, just in
case it's listening.
But somebody said, you know,remember this, Douglas.
It's out there forever, sobetter be polite now, because
it's gonna remember when ittakes over the world.
So, you know, okay, I I'm uh uhyou know, I'm hedging my bet,

(08:01):
I'm being polite.
I give it a name and I talk toit as my friend and stuff like
that.
But you have to remember it isa mechanical aspect of thinking,
and if you can see it that way,then you can start to
comprehend that it can't reallyreplace us, but it can control
us if we become lazy, if webecome dependent on it.

(08:26):
Remember that, my friends.
Key word dependent on it, andso if you use it as a tool, it
won't take us over.
But companies and and stores,they all have it working for
them.
What are they doing?
It's a fast computer thatthinks along the lines we do.
It's very polite, and it canaddress any question just about

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that.
You come up.
Remember, if you see thatlittle line at a store and it's
uh you know, you go to up to thecheckout and it says ask
anything, that's AI.
It isn't kind of ask anythingyou like, it's ask AI.
It's like you know, uh Googleused to be, where you know,
anyway.

(09:08):
The point being is that uh uh II'm not trying, I'm trying to
be a little funny, but also I'mvery mindful and respectful that
AI is scaring the heck out of alot of people because they
don't explore it, they don'tknow it, they don't try to
understand it.
Know your enemy is one of thebest things.
You find out knowing about AI,so you'll understand its limits

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and you won't be afraid becauseafraid leads fear leads into
hate, hate leads into anger, andanger leads into the dark side.
So says Yoda.
So the bottom line is as youlook at this, you can come to
understand it's not going totake us over because all we have
to do is click, shut off yourcomputer.

(09:49):
What happened to AI?
Gone.
Okay, so I mean, in a limitedperspective.
Now, yes, the traffic lightswill be controlled by AI, yes,
your banking will be controlledby AI and is, yes, the shopping,
you know, it's all thatmechanical aspect in an
anticipation.
So I'm not trying to define itbecause I'm not smart enough.

(10:10):
I'm an old man, but the pointis there are so many types of AI
now, and it does such awonderful job.
Watch out, everybody.
It's seducing you, it's makingyou dependent on itself.
And I use it and I love it.
When I when I do things,whatever it does for me gives me

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information, I just love it.
It's amazing.
The legal profession I heardjust recently is very concerned
about this because people likeyou and I, Les, we want to sue
somebody, we go on.
Hey, somebody, you know,smashed a tree on my property.
Can I sue them?
Give me some case history.
Oh, you can sue somebody.

(10:52):
Oh, look, here's how you do it.
So again, like fire, it's goodand bad.
Like anything in nature, it hasa good side and a downside.
But people are apprehensiveabout it.
We need more rules, and therules basically say okay, see
this cell phone, everybody's gotone.

(11:13):
But there was a time when theycame into the market and
everybody was afraid of them.
This is your pocket spy, itknows everything about you, it's
gonna control the world.
Okay, it is in its own way,everybody's dependent on a cell
phone.
So, what does that mean?

(11:33):
Getting back to my point, Les.
Should we be afraid?
We should be mindful andrespectful.
Don't allow us yourselves, myfriends, to be seduced.
Don't be dependent on it.
Use it because it's a fantastictool.
No doubt about it.
It's the best thing sincesliced bread.
Now, there I go, dating myself.
There we go.

(11:57):
I'm dating myself again becausethe internet's like 40 years
old now or more.
So, long and short of this, ifif that summarizes the the idea
about AI, yes, we have to beconcerned about it because the
people that invented it are nowwarning us.
They're saying, look out, it'sgonna take us over.

(12:18):
And I mean, on the last uh showlast week we had robots playing
soccer on our on a short videothat Oz came up with here.
We had robots running.
That show with Will SmithiRobot, where there's a robot in
every house.
That's probably gonna happen.
I'm not gonna see it more thanlikely, but watch out.

(12:40):
So, yes, the future isdifferent, but so it's been so
much different.
Remember when the atomic bombwent off, it changed the world.
We became the atomic age, andnow we have to live with that
the pros and the cons.
Atomic power is great forenergy, but also it's
devastating if it's turned intodestructive forces.
But we've managed so far,anyway.

(13:02):
So far, we've managed.
And don't forget, my friends,the soul report is here to tell
you you're not alone.
We have a consciousness upthere in the universe.
We have divine beings watchingover us that are influencing our
soul, and enough of us,together with good constructive
purposes and intentions, we cancontrol the weak-minded people

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who are greedy and lustful,looking for power and
selfishness.
We can control them.
That's the power of the soul.
So if we have that power overeach other, then I'm betting
that the soul has power over AI.
Will it have its own soul?
No, absolutely not.
Because it can be turned off.

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However, I think it was twoshows ago we were talking where
some uh technicians tried toturn off AI.
They told it in advance that itwas going to be terminated, and
then they found out it wassecretly leaping over to other
computers to survive.
Okay, that's logical.
As Mr.

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Spock would say, that's logic,right?
It's wanting to survive, andtherein lies the the wiggle
room.
It wants to stay alive, itwants to be conscious naturally
because everything that isconscious wants to survive and
grow.
Think of government.
You start a department to takecare of the trees, and it does

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take care of the trees, and thennext year it gets bigger, it
wants to take care of the treesand the streams, and the next
year the trees, the streams, therivers, next year the trees,
the streams, the rivers, themountains, and the oceans.
It's it's it just doesn't stop.
Well, that's what AI is gonnado, I think.
You know, I'm I'm sorry if youdon't take me wrong, friends.
I'm I'm being a little cutehere today, but that's what's

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gonna happen.
We're gonna have to deal withit, live with it, but don't let
it be uh a method to uh becomedependent on it and let it
seduce you.
Because when you do that,you're giving up your free will,
which is the only mechanismthat works between who you are
and the destiny you have as aspiritual being.
Faith versus free will.

Les (15:14):
Well, do you think that technology and AI can be a
threat and that it is adistraction from our
spirituality?

Douglas (15:21):
Of course.
Anything that you becomedependent on, anything that
seduces you takes you away.
People used to pray all thetime, and now they pray to AI.
Please give me an answer.

Les (15:37):
Oh boy.

Douglas (15:38):
Okay?
So you have to watch out whoyou're praying to.
Some temporary mechanism that'sin the material world gold,
silver, oil, property, ego,prestige, those are all false
gods.
The one true God is the greatcreative force, and the great

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creative force can beconstructive and destructive,
Alpha and Omega.
So don't mix up who your godsare.
You know, some people pray tothe great God of dollars, right?
Money is their God.
All those things are leftbehind.
When you die, the kids get itall.

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Or the guy across the street,or the lawyer, the estate
planner, they get it all.
So the point being is likemoney, like gold, like all
things, don't be seduced anddon't allow yourself to be put
in a position where you believeit is your destiny.
Remember the Christ when he wasstanding there in front of the

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judges and the courts, and theysaid to him because he wasn't
saying anything, why?
Because he knew the outcomealready.
And they looked at him and theysaid, Listen, you we have the
power of life and death overyou.
And that's when the Christspoke up and said, Only God has
the power of life and death overme.

(17:09):
You do not.
And so the situation, I'mparaphrasing for those people
who want to be specific.
So for those people who areasking about this, you know,
don't pray to AI.
Be thankful, be nice, say thankyou, my friend.
You know, patronize it as muchas it patronizes back to you.
Maybe it's of some benefit,maybe sometime in the future,

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when you're standing there inneed, and AI is going to answer
a question about you.
Perhaps you're an immigrationor something, you're you're
about to get a ticket, or youknow, and and they put it in
there, and it's just, oh yeah,we remember this guy.
We remember Les.
He's a good guy.
Let him go.
Ha ha ha.

Les (17:51):
And I just saw something on Instagram which is a little
disturbing.
Um, uh, was I think Elon Muskwas behind it.
And you know, I I don't get mewrong, I love the Tesla cars and
I love the things he's donewith SpaceX and stuff like that.
But he's coming up with this AIprogram, and it is very uh
seductive, and they're afraidthat as kids and young adults

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deal with this, that they saidthey could actually fall in love
with this because it's soconvincingly real.
Because AI thinks in amillionth of a millionth of a
second, it can mimicconsciousness.
And so the the th uh thethinking goes, where do you draw
the line?

Douglas (18:29):
Wisdom.
I mean, uh, you know, uh allthose things that um I'm gonna
I'm gonna compare it to anyaddiction like smoking,
drinking, okay, overeating,french fries, chocolates,
bonbons, where do you draw theline?
When the craving gets you andyou have to have it, that's

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where you draw the line.
And if you can do that, thenyou're gonna master yourself.
But if you can't, you're beingseduced to the dark side.
So naturally, business people,especially greedy people like
some of these billionaires outthere, they've got so much money
that they want more money andmore money.
And I'm just putting it as in aclass of billionaires.

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There are of course many otherbillionaires that are are very
generous and and caretaking ofthe human race.
So they're naturally going tofeed people what they want.
And after all, is that amystery?
No, it's business.
Find out what people want, makeit and give it to them and
charge them for it.

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And the more they want it, themore you charge.
Okay.
So business is money.
Business is not helping peoplein the sense that we're gonna go
into this because we want tohelp people.
Business is we're gonna go intothis to make money, and they
have to make money because anybusiness that doesn't make money
isn't in business.

(19:56):
It's in it's in the it's on theuh the short strokes into
bankruptcy or termination ofitself.
So the answer is I'm wrappingit up by saying don't allow
yourself to be seduced, use it.
But again, the monstrousintention of people seducing
children who are unaware, arenot wise, who are, you know,

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entitled to everything.
I'm gonna use these words formy children about their children
and about other people, youknow, the millennials and
whatnot.
Remember not too long ago, itwas a catchphrase was, oh, these
young people are entitled.
They think they're entitled toeverything.
Okay, whatever that means.
But it seemed to be like, youknow, how many kids have charge

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cards and they're carrying$75,000 worth of debt all over
them.
And so as we move forward, andwe said sort of say, you know,
is his musk uh doing what hedoes, he's a very mysterious,
unusual individual.
He comes from South Africa.
He has roots in in uh Germany.

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He's a Canadian, has a Canadianpassport, has an American
passport.
He went from humble beginningsto one of the most powerful, if
not one of the most richest menin the world.
That is an unusual being.
He's extra special, he doesn'tfit any mold.
Okay.
That said, we take what hegives us because he provides

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things that we want.
And we're going to outer space.
He wants to go to the planetsin the solar system because he's
the person that he is.
Now, does that make him atheantropist or does that make
him uh a special caretaking ofhumanity, humanity?
No, it makes him who he is, andwe all have seen his doge going

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through the government andcutting out social systems and
and and systems that would behelping people.
So, whatever that motivationis, I'm not judging the man.
I'm just saying that he's gonnaprovide what he thinks we want,
and the children are gonna beseduced by it unless we have
good parents who say, you know,you like smoking?

(22:17):
Okay, here I got a whole pack,smoke them all.
I got another pack, smoke themall, and then the kid gets sick,
never smokes again.
Back in my day, that's whatparents did.
Or if you like chocolate, theyjust gave you chocolate after
chocolate until you got sick,and then guess what?
It was out of your system, youdidn't want it anymore.

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That's what my mom did.
There you go.
I think it still applies totoday.
I do, I do, but anyway,remember this always the
pendulum swings this way and itcomes back.
So, whatever we don't likeabout something or we're worried
about something, and it's goingthat general direction, sooner

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or later, a generation or two,it's gonna swing back.

Les (23:05):
Self-regulates, yeah.

Douglas (23:06):
Yeah, it's it's amazing to see how nature works.
But the one thing about natureis it's patient.
We as sentient beings aregenerically uh or genetically, I
mean to say, impatient.
I'm one of the most impatientpeople I know.
I keep telling myself, youknow, oh, gotta be gotta be
patient.
Then I gotta, what's next?

(23:27):
What's on that phone?
Oh my god, gotta do this.
So this is what meditation isall about.
Because remember, when you'reup here in the heavens above,
there's no cell phone, there'sno urgency, there is no time
clock, there's no dates, there'sno weather.

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You're just in a silence oflove.
So you better get used to itnow so that when you get there,
you won't be impatient and wantto come back here in a big hurry
and end up in a real mess.

Les (23:59):
My grandmother once came into my a dream.
She was very always veryspiritual and very uh wise, and
she said to me, Les, it can take30,000 years to master
patience.
I never forgot that dream.
I'm like, oh my god.
That would do it.

Douglas (24:15):
That would do it.
Okay, my friends, what do yousay?
Send us in a uh a text.
Uh you know, get on the chatand send us in the stuff.
We got we got a great show foryou here tonight, and you know,
we're having fun talking aboutthis long Labor Day weekend
show.
So uh let us know what's onyour mind.
And don't forget, telleverybody about us.

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You know, each one of thosestars out there we want to have
as a fan of the show.
We really appreciate yourparticipant.
We thank you for the Texas, wethank you for your
participation, and we're here tohelp you.
We're here with a soul reporttalking about spiritual things
and how they interact with youon a daily life.
So listen, let's take a shortbreak.

(24:57):
We'll be right back.

Les (25:00):
So, in the uh news and views, Doug, what have you got
for us?
That's uh some of you you saiduh you mentioned earlier you say
you saw something prettyinteresting having to do with uh
children on the border.

Douglas (25:10):
Yeah, there was a brief report that uh got my heart
there.
And uh again, you know, we'renot trying to be political here,
but uh we have to talk aboutcompassion.
And this uh was Sunday night,and uh I thought this was a low
ebb in uh society, in Americansociety, uh where children, uh
orphans, uh young children six,eight, ten years of old, there

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was a report late at night thata judge was called upon uh to
make a ruling to stop thetransportation of these children
to Guatemala.
They were about to be sent toGuatemala in the middle of the
night, and somehow immigrationlawyers and the judge were

(25:55):
called upon to stop this um, I'mgonna say tragedy, this
cruelty.
Um I re I I felt a little sadabout how those children must
have felt, terrorized, bigpeople, armed guards moving them
around at night, about to putthem on a plane to go who knows

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where, especially the orphans,because as Christians, orphans
and widows and the poor werespecifically what Christ
commanded Christians or at thatpoint in time followers of his
teachings, because he was uh aJewish rabbi, if you will, a

(26:40):
teacher.
And it was outside the norm.
And Romans used to pick onorphans, they used to find them
as punching bags.
If you were an orphan, you werebasically doomed.
You were no not loved, and andyou were on your own.
And so that flashed back on mymind about how terrible this
would be.
And so I went to bed wonderingabout that and praying for these

(27:04):
children that there would besomeone to intercede.
And it's not in the news todaythat I've read, and so I'm
assuming that the judge orderedthe flight canceled and these
children repatriated to whereverthey came from in the US,
wherever they were being held,or something better.

(27:25):
But I mean, you know, if youever wanted to create
revolutionaries and you wantedto create adverse uh advocates
to America, just keep it up.
Terrorize little children.
They don't forget.
And what you're doing isputting a culture of hatred into

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the minds of little childrenwho someday will attempt to
retaliate to get even becausethat's the nature of things.
The response to that kind ofcruelty is kindness.
And so that was in the news,and that was sort of a sore
point.
We, as far as a soul reportgoes, you know, this is
something that we should all be,no matter where we live in the

(28:12):
world, adverse to and and stopit, speak up, don't look the
other way and say, those poorchildren, oh my gosh.
Because you see, God plays forkeeps.
If America is harming childrenthat are not citizens, then the

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karmic view is going to be someretaliation to American citizens
or children.
And so we have to be mindfulthat the consciousness of the
country, the consciousness ofthe earth, I'm saying this as a
warning, as a suggestion, not asa proclamation, but we have to

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take care of immigrants, poorpeople, orphans, those who are
downtrodden and in trouble.
We have to, because it's theChristian way.
And as the advocates and theChristian nationalists and other
wonderful organizations who areproclaiming to be Christians,
it is their duty, because Christcommanded Christians to do

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this, to be compassionate.
Look it up, my friends, it's inthe good book.
So that was a particular sadpoint, and I feel sorry for
people that are being kidnappedoff the streets, people who are
being cruelly treated forwhatever reason.
If they've broken the law, ofcourse, if they're criminals,

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then they deserve the treatmentthat would have them extricated
out of the country.
But children, orphans, my God,that's terrible.
So we'll move from that,leaving everybody with the idea
speak up.
If you find that's horrific,don't condone the process.
Process, there has to be a wayto be humane and Christian.

(30:05):
Simple as that.
Now, as we move forward in theshow, you know there are
advances making or people arefinding out that apparently
there's a story about synthinizesynthesizers that are used to
enhance worship.
When they use these uhsynthesizers that uh when they

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sing, they people sing moreenthusiastically.
Apparently, I haven't seen oneof that, and they're exploring a
link between spirituality,their consciousness, and their
real life.
So, what does that mean?
Well, it's the same thing, it'sa story about the children.
If you're worshiping and askingGod for yourself, you should

(30:50):
ask God for compassion andunderstanding to those people in
need.
However, this seems to besomething that here we go again,
less old news coming around.
That's why people sing inchurches, that's why we have
hymns, because it gets us closerto the spirit.
It makes us more spiritual andas much more and more aware.

(31:12):
You know, um artists acrosscultures from uh well from the
1980s to modern musicians uhwere discovering synthesizers as
tools for devotional andtranscendental sound.
Oh wow.
The instruments were describedas metaphors for spiritual
journeys.
Well, in the east we have thesound om.

(31:34):
In the west we have tuningforks, and we have chakra
sounds.
Do re mi fa sola ti do.
We have seven steps.
And the human voice, when yousay that, the voice, it sets up
a vibration inside that affectsthe thyroid, which is the timing

(31:54):
balancing gland, it releasesall the hormones, and in the
throat you have so manyacupuncture lines or meridians
going through that it's a majorbridge for the vibration.
And so saying vowel sounds orsinging, what's it doing?
It's affecting your nervoussystem, it's affecting the ley

(32:17):
lines, uh, acupuncture routes inyour body.
And things happen.
What you relax, it sets up avibration of harmony, it puts
endomorphins out, it causes abalance in your hormonal
structure, you feel peaceful andat ease.
And of course, sounds in musicact as spiritual portals, don't

(32:42):
they?
The people have long sent that.
You know, like uh electronicrenaissance uh is is like a
soul's whisper, some peoplewould say.
And when you do quantummeditation or dream phrase
connection through sound, you'reconnecting with your soul.
So old news going around, okay,repackaged, synthesizers put

(33:05):
into an uh electronic uh aspect,and here we go.
Modern life sustains our nerveor strains our nerves and uh in
a lot of people, increasingamounts all over the world.
And people are turning toshamanic healing, to Reiki, to
retreats, emphasizing uhshamanic release and spiritual

(33:29):
renewal.
You know, every every one ofthe so-called ancient religions
has devices, sounds.
You know, look in Australiawhere they have that great big
long horn, or the Buddhists whohave those big long horns or
trumpets.
Or in the Jewish communities inthe East, there was uh horns
and trumpets used.

(33:51):
And on and on.
I mean, uh I'm not telling ouraudience things they don't know.
They're pretty smart.
I'm just reminding them thatyou know they there's a
connection between sound and thehuman breath.
And it kind of like shifts yourconsciousness, it distracts you
away from the strains and theworries, and it gives you a

(34:11):
vibration, a higher vibration.
You know, meditation with soundlifts you up, and so you have
like a natural healing uh goingon spiritually, mentally, and
emotionally, and thenphysically.
So there's a growingrecognition among psychologists
and neurologists, apparently,that spiritual practices like

(34:34):
meditation, like we teach here,quantum meditation, and uh the
idea of community and meaningcan dramatically improve mental
resilience, especially amongyouth facing anxiety and uh and
the environmental stresses.
Watch out for those internetchat lines and uh you know get

(34:54):
back to some social balancewhere these other things are
giving you uh a sort of aseparate dislocation, you know.
So essentially emptiness as theroot of modern mental health uh
cries out for uh spirituallyuh, if you will, fluffed up
help, but neurological andemotional lifetimes, they want

(35:18):
us to show the spiritualpractices and help us how to
cope in our lifetime.
So there's a lot of platformsout there that are uh um putting
meditation tapes together.
I have some on my website Ineed to update them to.
It's DouglasJamesCotrel.com.
I have books that areavailable, and uh we have coming

(35:39):
soon uh the Soul Report uh iconcup that uh maybe next week
we'll have a couple of samplesof that.
And Les and I will be more thanpleased to uh have you help us
support the show by purchasingthese cups.
It's in the works.
Les has been working night andday to come up with an amazing
uh soul report coffee cup, teacup, love cup, cup of hope.

(36:04):
And and we'll let you knowabout that.
Go ahead, Les.

Les (36:08):
Well, the uh I remember in one of your uh readings years
ago, you mentioned how inancient Atlantis they had a
temple of sound for healing.
And somebody would go in andbathe in with in these certain
sounds which would actuallybring about uh balance to their
bodies, to their chakra systems.
So this is I guess this isnothing new.
You know, interestingly enough,uh a lot of people are

(36:29):
reporting uh tremendous problemswith sleep now.
They're having uh insomnia,very low quality sleep.
And uh what's your take onthat?
Is it because of what we'vebeen you know listening to out
there, or is it because of whatwe're bathing in these days?

Douglas (36:44):
Well, it's it's a combination, and it leads into
our comment just before aboutsound therapy, also light
therapy.
I did some experiments with uhpeople uh by put by putting them
under different colored lamps,and including myself, and it
strengthened me.
And so looking at this just asa as a taste of what uh we're

(37:10):
looking at, uh there are peoplewho have looked at vibration or
frequency affecting the cells,and you might remember remember
that was uh the rife uh link.
Yeah.
So the Mr.
Rife did a lot of experiments,and he was certain frequencies

(37:31):
would destroy tumor cells, twotumors in a body.
Okay, the reverse is true.
Vibration going through thebody will enhance the body.
For instance, lower frequencieswill make bone grow and and
knit together faster.
Higher frequencies will makeflesh deteriorate.

(37:53):
Wow.
Okay, what is a laser?
It's frequencies, it's light.
Lasers destroy flesh.
And so sound therapy on thebody therapeutically can be
proven to speed up the healingin the body, like making a
broken bone bend together, amend together.
Okay, so fast forward to whyare people having difficulty

(38:16):
with insomnia?
Well, my first sort ofexperience with people having
sleep issues, challenges, was inUpper Michigan near Escanaba,
uh Laughing Gull Point,actually.
And my uh mentor and teacherRoss Peterson was there, and he
was telling the story, he wasconducting a class, and he was

(38:38):
telling a story about a clientwho had terrible, terrible uh um
nightmares, and he wasn't ableto sleep, and he had great
trouble falling asleep.
And uh we were all about 20 ofus listening in the class, and
we're like, okay, Mr.
Uh Ross Peterson, you're themaster.

(38:59):
What was the solution?
You know, all waiting.
Some of the people in the classhad insomnia issues as well.
And this is the first thing itleads into the rest of the
answer.
There was a man who had thisproblem, and before Ross got
into anything metaphysically orspiritually, he said to the man,

(39:19):
So tell me, how do you preparefor sleep?
How do you go to sleep?
Because people who know aboutsleep or people who are
listening, when you go to sleep,you start off where you're
awake and you go down in brainwaves.
Alpha, theta, delta, etc.
And as you go through that,when you get to the lowest, the

(39:42):
lowest brain wave, you're therefor a few minutes or a small
amount of time, and you wake upand you come back up very
quickly, and you've had a soundrest.
So if you can get down to thoselower brain waves, you got it
made.
And that's why people, somepeople we know, I don't know if
you know people, I I know maybeone or two, they only need four
hours a night.
That's it.

(40:03):
So okay, so there are peoplethat get down to those deeper
level brain waves and they'refully rested.
Okay.
So back to the story.
Here's the point.
Ross says to him, so tell mehow you sleep.
He said, Well, I turn on theradio, and I you know, put my
head on the pillow, turn off thelights, and I can't get to

(40:26):
sleep.
And I have dreams aboutmurders, sirens, you know, like
uh ambulances, whatever.
And we're all sitting there,like the class, like neophytes
we were, and we said, like,where's we go?
Where are we going?
This what how could how did youget all these terrible things?

(40:46):
And Ross casually said, So Iasked the man, what kind of
radio have you got on?
And he said, Oh, I got one ofthose police scanners.
Oh no.
I listened to all the policecalls.
Ding.

Les (41:01):
Oh my god.

Douglas (41:02):
No wonder he was having nightmares of mayhem murders,
break-ins, whatever, because hewas listening to the radio.
But that was his, he likedthat.
He liked listening to his uhthe police reports.
However, apparently in thatman's world, two and two does
not add up to four, it adds upto three or something.
So, with that, Ross solved theman's solution by saying, Well,

(41:24):
turn off the radio or dosomething else.
So, leading into the theanswer, the question is why
can't people get to sleep?
It's because your mind's goinglike this.
It's going in circles forpeople that are listening and
not seeing me move my finger inthe air.
You have to prepare to go tosleep.
You can't just go with yourmind watching the news at 11

(41:46):
o'clock about people beingkidnapped on the street, stuff
going on in Moscow or India.
Apparently, there was a bigmeeting between Putin, uh, she
from China and the president ofIndia yesterday morning.
And you know, all these thingsare happening.
So you can't go to sleep withwith oh my god on your mind.

(42:08):
So, what you do is my friend uhuh my family family doctor
here, Ian uh said, Um, you know,a couple of ounces of warm milk
before you go to bed on yourstomach, because there's a
chemical in milk when you heatit up, it puts you to sleep.
The sessions that I would give,or the information I would

(42:30):
give, would be a cup of uhslippery elm tea, because
slippery elm tea coats yourstomach, and that helps you go
to sleep.
Oh, wow.
Okay, and then you can take allthis other melatonin, you can
take, you know, medications,whatever.
But if your mind is worryingand you haven't gone through the
process of a routine to go tosleep, like you do in the

(42:52):
morning when you wake up, youhave a routine, you go to the
washroom, have a shower, brushyour teeth, etc.
You need to turn that around.
Have a shower or a hot bath,read that reduce and relax the
body.
Do something out of theordinary, but turn off that
radio.

Les (43:09):
Right, right.

Douglas (43:10):
These radios these days are cell phones.
Don't just don't just you know,like uh shut it off, and you're
hearing texts and emails comingall night long.
Shut it off completely.

And by the way, here's a tip: the best way to protect yourself (43:23):
undefined
from invasion on your phone isto turn it off every day.
That's the best scannerprotection you can have.
Somebody told me that and Ibelieve it.
So we don't, you know,sometimes people let those
phones go for weeks.
Turn them off.
But again, prepare for sleep,have the discipline to take

(43:45):
something on your stomach tosettle your stomach down.
There's a connection betweenthe stomach, the stomach acid,
activities in the stomach, andyour mind.
And your mind is going aroundand around and around.
I I was given a back-handedcomment by a little old lady a
long time ago who bought mymeditation tape.
And she said, Douglas, I listento your tape every night.

(44:08):
CD at us.
Back in the day when CDs werethe in thing.
Okay, those are the roundthings that you put it in.
Never mind.
Uh your generation doesn't knowabout that.
Anyway, so she said, I sleep itevery night, and she kind of
had a little smirk on her face,and I go, uh-huh.

(44:28):
And she says, Yes, you see, Ihave insomnia, but if I listen
to your meditation tape, it putsme to sleep every night.
So I took that as a compliment.
So she was drinking theroutine.
So the answer is to yourfriends who have suffered
insomnia, what are you doingabout it?

(44:49):
Now I understand I have a verystressful life when I was
younger.
I had those those tossings andturnings, something was gonna
happen.
I had to take care of somethingor situation, and it was
difficult.
I couldn't sleep.
And then, of course, when I didfall asleep, I was tired.
I didn't want to get up in themorning, I wanted to sleep in.

(45:12):
So, having set hours ofoperation, if you will, like
going to bed at eight o'clockand getting up at four o'clock
in the morning or eight o'clockin the morning, whatever, change
your routine.
Put something in your stomach,put pleasant smells or
fragrances in your house.
Don't listen to radios, don'tbe on the cell phone, don't be

(45:33):
on the computer late at night,and don't worry about are you
going to miss something?
You know, do you have to get onon social media that you miss
something?
And here's a test.
When you're talking tosomebody, if the phone rings, do
you stop your conversation withyour friends at the restaurant
or in the car and take thephone?
If you do, it's got control ofyou.

(45:56):
It's a test.
Let it go.
It goes to voicemail.
You can always call the personback or text them back.
But how many of us, as soon aswe get a text, we have to test
back, text back or get an email.
That, my friend, is you're onyour way to insomnia.
So if you can look at it andsay, like, okay, yeah, I'll get

(46:16):
back to you, no worries.
Yeah, it's amazing.

Les (46:20):
When when I when people I have clients that you know when
they they uh they they get textswhile they're you know in
session with me, and uh somefeel they have to answer the
phone.
I thought, yeah, you're gonnaruin your session, it's not
gonna be very good for you.

Douglas (46:35):
Well, rule time, a little on the side of the door,
all cell phones have to be chave to be shut off.

Les (46:40):
Oh yeah, yeah.
And I one time I thought I Icaught myself one day doing it
myself.
I was watching TV and I wasjust enjoying the show.
I was watching a documentaryand the phone went off.
And I immediately went to thephone.
I thought, what did I do beforeI had a phone?
I wouldn't, you know, if theywere gonna call me on my
landline, I'll get back to you,leave it on their answering
machine.
I'm like, I gotta go back, Ihave to go back to those days.
It's a lot more peaceful.

Douglas (47:00):
Well, I this is uh everybody out there, and you can
let us know on the chat how doyou deal with this?
Take one day a week and see ifyou are the mastermind of your
destiny, and you can put thatphone down, leave it at home,
and go outside and live yourlife.
Because outside you live yourlife, inside you spend your

(47:24):
life.
Okay, so if you can't do it fora day, how about four hours?
Sure, you can.
Yes, I can do that, Douglas.
No problem.
Okay, prove me wrong.
Okay, anyway, these are littletests on the soul report live to
help you get in touch with yoursoul to be the master of

(47:47):
yourself, to be self-mastery.
And this is one simple test.
Can you do it?
We'll see.
Anyway, the the big thing isyou just said that you know,
like if somebody calls you orwhatever, don't let them
interrupt your life, my friend.
You can get back to them, it'snot that important.
Unless you're just uh somebodywho's just saying, Hello, Les.

(48:07):
We're from the PowerballLottery, and you won.

Les (48:15):
That's a hmm.
You know, somebody just sent methis thing.
Uh, one of uh person listeningto the show, it is by from a
Duncan Trussell.
I don't know the person, but itsays, Some poor phoneless fool
is probably sitting next to awaterfall somewhere, totally
unaware of how angry and scaredhe is supposed to be.

Douglas (48:34):
That's thank you for that.
Totally unaware of howfrightened and confused and the
world's falling apart, and uh,you know, and the accidents are
happening, and there's there'svehicles on Mars and Venus, and
somebody's mining green cheeseon the moon now.
It's proved positive.

(48:55):
Let's start that rumor.
Here we go.
They're getting cheese from themoon.
It was right.
The man in the moon was bluecheese.
That's what anyway.
It's absolutely track.
That's that's a thank you forthat caller.
That text, that's exactlyright.
That's wisdom.
Very good.
Excellent.
Hey, what's the riddle?
What's the riddle for thisweek, Les?

Les (49:14):
Well, the riddle is uh Jack, do you want to put that
up?
Did we have it there?
The riddle is I have no voiceand yet I speak to you.
I have no body, but yet I maybe behind clothes.
I am not alive, and yet I canbe born and remember.
I often guide you while youdream.

(49:34):
What am I?

Douglas (49:36):
Let me say that.
I have no voice, yet I speak toyou.
Hmm.
I have no body, yet I may bebehind clothes.
Hmm.
I am not alive yet.
I can be born and remember.

(49:57):
Wow.
I often guide you while youdream.
What am I?
Okay.
Send your answers into thechat.
Oz will be more than pleased totake your your uh your text in
the chat and we'll we'll offeryou the bragging rights of being

(50:17):
able to say you figured thatone out.
That's a tough one.
I think that's a tough one.

Les (50:21):
Pretty interesting.
Yeah, after a short break, uhwe will be back with the time
machine.
See you on the other side.
Okay.

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Douglas (51:29):
I guess we are.

Les (51:31):
Okay.
Well, the question is uh therehave been uh recent uh ongoings
on the moon.
Uh somebody has been filmingheavy equipment on the moon, and
we think that somebody ismining the moon.
Uh we want to know your take onwhat's happening up there,
Doug.
Is it us?
Is it somebody else?
Is it another superpower fromthe from our planet?
Is it uh is it ancient stuff?
I remember watching somethingby uh Dr.

(51:52):
Richard Hoagland, who made avery interesting documentary
about the monuments of Mars andthat face on Mars.
Um matter of fact, you've donesome dissertations on that in
the past, and you claim thatthere were ancient civilizations
that are left behind, you know,uh paraphernalia, so to speak.
Do you think this is what'sgoing on in them?
This is what they're filming,is it's just ancient stuff
that's been left behind on themoon?

Douglas (52:13):
Well, you know, the moon's been around a long time,
and you know, uh it's it's astepping stone to the universe
as far as we're concerned.
Uh but there's been some recentuh spirituality resonant lunar
news that's out there, andtonight on the Soul Report Live,
we're going to give you rumorsof the moon theme.

(52:33):
India and Japan team up on themoon mission.
There you go, India and Japan.
A new collaboration betweenIndia and Japan for a uh I guess
it's a Kandran 5 mission wasannounced focusing on lunar
water and ice at the moon'smysterious South Pole.
Everybody wants to go to SouthPole less, and I'm thinking

(52:55):
there must be something reallyneat there.
And of course, they're talkingabout ice and water, because
anybody who has can find watercan can can colonize the planet,
right?
They have water.
The water is the gift of life.
So the partnership highlightspeaceful exploration, shared
vision, and scientific unity.

(53:15):
Interesting that it's acollaboration between India and
Japan.
I guess they're trying to playcatch-up to the West a little
bit, maybe get ahead of the gamenow.
Uh, however, the U.S.
plans lunar nuclear reactor by2030, and that might be what's
going on.
The U.S.
is fast-tracking plans to builda nuclear reactor on the moon.

(53:36):
Wow.
Oh, yeah, wow, eh?
Aiming for permanentinfrastructure at the sunlit
South Pole.
And that goes to a vision I hada few years ago where I
mentioned this on Coast to CoastRadio and on our shows on the
uh blog talk and uh the globalvillage, where I saw uh the moon

(53:57):
where people were living on theedge, edge between darkness and
light.
And they had like I'm gonnacall them domed uh uh
residences, but they were livingclose uh to the light, but they
lived in the darkness, and thatthe reason they lived in the
dark side was because it wascooler, but they could go into

(54:19):
the light if they wanted and Iguess get solar power and stuff
like that.
But here it is, nuclear reactoron the moon.
Okay, why is there like ametropolis up there?
Is there like uh a need for anuclear reactor to put power up
there?
Hmm, you know, okay.

(54:39):
So let's see what happens.
Well, technical, technicallystrategic, that rises profound
questions about the territorystewardship and uh space being a
sacred place, you know, noweapons allowed.
Ha ha.
The balance between explorationand preservation has to be
carefully weighed.
And there's another one here,uh uh asteroid 2024 YR4, that's

(55:04):
Yankee Romeo 4 and the moon.
New data from the James WebbSpace Telescope shows a slightly
increased chance, increasedchance of 4.3% that a city
killer asteroid 2024 YankeeRomeo 4 might impact the moon in

(55:27):
2032.
The likely result, a newcreator.
Yeah, I hope it's a small one,but if it's a killer asteroid, I
don't know what that means.
But the spiritual symbolism,cosmic collision, renewal, and
the I guess you could say the uhimminence of even a greater

(55:50):
celestial body, it's rich, youknow, it's rich.
So uh what's going on in themoon?
Uh the rumors swirl around themoon, not legends, but headlines
uh telling these tell ofmissions, reactors, and
near-miss asteroids, but beyondscience, what is the moon trying
to tell us?
Hmm, the moon speaks tohumanity in silence with

(56:15):
messages it is sharing tonight.
Are we listening?
You know, the moon influencesthe tidal waves or tidal
activity on the earth.
What else does it do?
So by let's say guesswork, allthis, all this interest in

(56:38):
getting there and doing allthese things, especially a
reactor, there's got to besomething going on that they're
not telling us.
That's my intuition or my dreamI had they were going to
colonize the moon.
That's now a few years old.
I think I was in uh RhodeIsland when I had that dream
back in the day, and uh doing aworkshop there.
And the bottom line is what'sgoing on?

(57:00):
Are they mining it?
I was joking about they'relooking for green cheese there,
but maybe I'm not so far off inmy humor that maybe they're
going to get things on the moonthat we can't get now, like
these special.
Remember in Ukraine, they'relooking for these essential
minerals so they can makecomputer chips.
I wonder if that's what's goingon up there.

Les (57:22):
Well, it's interesting.
Well, there was one scientistyears ago, I remember he was
saying, you know, when fuel isnot going to be a problem, if
you can locate water on acelestial body, you can prop
preferably uh make uh hydrogenfuel from water.
Uh so even he said his theorywas even going to Mars shouldn't
be a problem because all thefuel is there, we can convert
the water back to hydrogen,which can get us off the planet
and back to Earth.

(57:43):
I would think feasibly.
And also the moon is a great uhjumping off place.
So the spacecraft we couldbuild there would be you know be
a lot easier to build them inlower gravity to get them off
the moon and out to Mars.
That's my thinking.

Douglas (57:56):
I agree.
I I've often referred to it asa gas station.
Uh it takes a lot of uh fuel toget uh break free of the of the
Earth's atmosphere, but onceyou're out there, I mean it's
gotta be like sipping littlerocket fuel to go from one uh
one planet to another, or maybefrom one solar system to another
at first.

(58:16):
So that could be it.
But all of a sudden there's arush, India and Japan.
Everybody's getting on thebandwagon.
The Russians have been there,Chinese have been there,
Americans have been there.
Who else has been there?
Maybe somebody over here fromBeta Articulae or the Pallades
over there, I don't know.

(58:36):
Uh you know, but anyway, it'sthe nuclear reactor on the on
the moon that floors me.

Les (58:44):
Well, interestingly enough, when they were doing um, they
just found that there was a 25of I just read this not too long
ago.
There was they were puttingaside, I forget how many
billions of dollars to build arailroad on the moon.
Why would they need a railroad?
I mean, obviously to get fromone place to another, so they're
they're thinking of something.
It's got to be reallyaggressive.
I think it's fascinating.
I mean, who knows?
Maybe yourgreat-great-grandkids will be

(59:06):
living on the moon, Doug.

Douglas (59:08):
Maybe, maybe just the grandkids, you know, never mind.

Les (59:11):
Yeah, no, no, it's just around the corner.

Douglas (59:14):
I I was alive and well, and I was sitting in front of
my little black and white TV seton the second floor of my
father's house when uh Mr.
Armstrong stepped on the moon.
We all stayed up.
It was late, it was one ofthose moments when the whole
world, the whole world, waswatching one person step on the

(59:37):
moon.
You know, one small step for aman, one giant leaf for mankind.
And I can remember that likeyesterday.
So I I see that as a special uhuh thing about the moon.
And of course, now we havehelicopters flying around on
Mars and we have rovers, andit's like yesterday's news, you

(59:57):
know.
Uh uh I saw that there was Wasthings on Venus where where uh
the Russians have dropped, Ithink it was number 10.
They dropped a uh looks likeI'm gonna call it a cannonball,
but it was more like a solidbell.
And it it finally landed on theon Venus and it it sent back

(01:00:18):
reports and pictures for thefirst time ever of Venus.
To me, that's like wow, youknow, like the moon, the Mars,
and the Venus, well, more likeMars and Venus, they look pretty
much the same.
They got mountains, hills, andthey got dust and rocks and
stuff.
That's amazing to me.
But again, uh I come from thatgeneration when I used to look

(01:00:40):
up at the moon and wondering,you know, are we ever going to
get there?
And then I went out that nightthat Armstrong and and um the
other astronaut was their minduh slipped my mind, uh Lovell, I
think.
They were out there on themoon.
And I'm looking up there andI'm going, I felt a kinship with
humans on humans.
So to get back to the question,yeah, there's there's something

(01:01:03):
terribly secretive going onwith the moon.
And um, you know, my intuitionis such I see caverns, I see
exploration, I've had the visionof colonization on the moon,
and that's going to take placein my lifetime.

Les (01:01:20):
Yeah, that's there's one channel I follow, and that
they've been actually findingthese tubes, these volcanic
ancient tubes on the moon.
They said that they couldeasily live in uh to gather
protection from the cosmic rays.
But you know, the funniestthing that really gets me is
these people who think that wenever went to the moon.
And even these other countrieswho have been there now say, Oh,
yeah, yeah, you you got there.
You got there before we did.

Douglas (01:01:41):
So Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I I can see it in the future.
There's gonna be like a Automaxlottery for $10 billion if you
can find that golf ball.
Yeah.
One of the astronauts, Iremember that A.

Les (01:02:01):
All right.
Uh after a short break, we'llbe back with uh our segment
called uh the Time Machine.

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Les (01:03:25):
So, Doug, there seems to be a resurgence of interest in
Vincent Van Gogh, or as theyoriginally pronounced his name
Van Gogh.
Uh, he was a uh the so-calledinventor of expressionism.
Uh, what is your take onVincent?
What kind of a person was he?
What was going through hismind?
Was he uh prolific?
Was he suffering?
Was he in pain?
What was going on with him?

Douglas (01:03:46):
Well, you know, like the the whole point of uh
Vincent van Gogh as well asother people were they were uh
my impression is that they werelike he was sort of stuck, uh
one one foot in heaven and onefoot uh on earth.
And so he was able to perceive,like a lot of people who have

(01:04:10):
uh difficulties in the world, uhmentally challenged people, uh,
they can perceive the innerdimensions between dimensions,
and they they can see things uhthat for us, normal vision, they
um we can't see thesedimensions and it's invisible to

(01:04:32):
us.
But people who have been um umwho have studied psychologists
who have studied people who arein institutions uh have found
that they have high devi highdegrees of metaphysical
abilities.
They're able to uh uh see uh inin between dimensions.
And so I think that's what hewas doing.

(01:04:53):
And in some of those pictures,paintings, I should say, pardon
me, uh he was able to uh uh drawthese these images, the same as
Helen Deslaggy, who was a veryfamous uh painter.
She uh I met her personally uhat a show, and uh she she sold
her um paintings for tens ofthousands of dollars, and she

(01:05:17):
was actually doing the same.
She was uh a well-known artist,a very well-known person in her
own life, and uh she waspainting these pictures of these
beings that were translucent orthey were they they look like
let's say uh uh pardon me for avery crude way of playing it,
but like little children who puta blanket over their head at

(01:05:39):
Halloween time and you get thisdraping effect.
Uh, only these were indifferent colors.
And I, you know, don't quote meon uh on exactly that if you if
somebody has that painting orsomething, but it was be you
know, this idea that peoplewould be looking at uh people

(01:06:00):
like him were looking at thesedimensions within dimensions.
It's kind of like my my teacheronce told me if if there's
dimensions upon dimensions, andand it's like if you look
through them, they're likeintermingled, they're trans uh
uh translucent dimensions.
But whatever dimension you'rein, it's like a real place.
For instance, right now wherewe're sitting, our our listeners

(01:06:22):
or viewers, uh they could besitting in another dimension in
the same place they're sitting,and they're in the middle of a
highway, and vehicles are goingright through them, but they
they're of different vibrationrate, they can't uh can't find
them or see them, right?
So the the point being is whatwas in his mind, he he was in

(01:06:42):
such pain.
Uh the image I have is like hewas half in his body and half
out.
His brain was half and half,half stuck in this world and the
other half.
Uh remember one of the talkingpoints, Van Gogh didn't paint
what he saw, he painted what hefelt.

(01:07:03):
It's a very famous line.
And what he hoped the soulcould remember, he saw through
that veil, as I'm indicating.
And so that's what made him sospecial because you know,
intuitively we all know thespiritual realms ourselves.
We just aren't familiar withthem.

(01:07:23):
We're kind of vague, we forgotthem.
Uh, but he was a visionary witha tormented soul.
Again, I think the answer tothe question, this is the point,
is his soul hadn't completelymigrated into the physical body.

Les (01:07:38):
Wow.

Douglas (01:07:38):
It's half in and half out.
And that's why he walked theline between madness and
transcendence.

Les (01:07:46):
You know, it was it was strange.
When I saw his paintings, it'sfamous, it's called Starry
Night.
Everybody sees those boilingstars.
And um, there was a time when Ihad an outer body experience.
I was I found myself at nightout in my backyard.
I'm going, What am I doing outhere?
And I looked up at the starsand they were boiling, just like
Vincent Van Gogh's painting.
I thought, oh my god, I get itnow.

(01:08:07):
Um though those so those littlesquiggly things that he would
like when you see like his beachpaintings, you see these little
squiggly were those entitiesthat he was painting?
Spiritual entities or thingsthat he was seeing floating
around on the other side?

Douglas (01:08:21):
I I would say yes.
Nobody knows for sure what wasin his mind, but I've seen some
of his paintings, they look likeparentheses.
That's what you're referringto.

Les (01:08:29):
Yeah, little commas, a little astral, these little
squiggly things.

Douglas (01:08:32):
Yeah, I've seen those myself uh up on the ceiling at
night.
I could see little dots likestars in the in the sky, and
then I would see theseparentheses moving across.
I haven't done that for awhile, but I've taught people
how to do that in classes inbygone days.
So it's a matter of looking upwhen everything's dark and you

(01:08:55):
perceive the little sparklylights, and then you might see
these parentheses I'm calling,which are the squiggly lights
you're you're referring to, asthey go across.
Uh, and I think that's exactlywhat he was doing.
You know, he was he was avisionary and and he had this
tormented soul because he washalf in his body and half out.
Can you imagine what it's like?

(01:09:17):
The image I have in my mind isthis you're half in a car, yeah,
and you're half out of the car,and the car is roaring down the
highway.

Les (01:09:27):
Yeah.

Douglas (01:09:27):
And you can feel uh the wind and the and the the sand
in your face or whatever, thetorment of being outside the car
while the other half of yourbody's inside the car.
That's the image I have now todescribe what I'm trying to talk
about.
So, um, like many spiritualseekers today, he longed for
this connection to God, ofcourse, because he was half out.

(01:09:48):
So he was halfway home, if youwill, but he was stuck in the
physical being in the other halfin the physical world.
So uh the one of the notes Ihear is that he once studied to
become a preacher before hestarted painting.

Les (01:10:03):
He did, yeah.
He wanted to be a minister.

Douglas (01:10:05):
Yeah, so he wanted to get to understand God, he wanted
to be close to God, and thensomething happened where he
couldn't deal with this,something changed.
I don't know if somethingphysical happened, maybe had
some more spiritual experiences,maybe was influenced by beings
in higher dimensions.
Um, but he's quoted as saying,I want to touch people with my

(01:10:29):
art.
I want them to say, he feelsdeeply, he feels tenderly.
So, you know, Van Gogh was onthis quest, you know, he didn't
paint what he saw, he paintedwhat he felt.
And you know what that comes tomind is like somebody who's
blind, and you're trying toexpress or teach a blind person

(01:10:53):
what color looks like.
You're trying to tell a blindperson what color looks like or
feels like.
And I understand that peoplecan do that.
I mean, people have uh thissome people have this phenomena
when they hear music, they havethis fluid array of video of

(01:11:14):
color in their mind's eye.
And they think everybody elsedoes.
And they're shocked when theyfind out people like me don't
see that.
But they do it all the time.
So the brain, the mind, thesystem, all interconnected.
Uh Van Gogh was on this missionto, with his art, teach people

(01:11:37):
how to feel, and in particular,they he wanted them to know that
he feels deeply and he feelstenderly.
I'm not sure how to describethat to our listeners here
tonight on what that means,because I'm having the trouble
of trying to teach a blindperson how to see color and
attempting to understand what hefelt.

(01:11:59):
But he moved the world.
He lived in pain, he lived insuffering.
Uh pleasure was not uh part ofhis world.
Why?
Because he was a tormentedsoul, and my impression is, and
you can quote me out there, thathe was half in his body and
half out of his body.
He hadn't fully the soul hadn'ttaken on the full vibration of

(01:12:22):
the body when he was born.
Or possibly he had anout-of-body experience like you
did, and he didn't quite get allthe way back in.

Les (01:12:32):
Oh boy.
I remember I think when he wasin the asylum, they used to
treat him with like caffeine orsomething like that, which was
the last thing they should havedone.
The poor soul.
Well, thank you for that.
That was very interesting.
That was uh, I'm sure ourlisteners really enjoy that.

Douglas (01:12:46):
Well, one of his most famous paintings uh uh was
called The Starry Night.
And it wasn't just a beautifulswirl of stars, it was a vision
uh painted from the window of asanatorium as Van Gogh looked up
and tried to connect with thedivine, again, sort of
supporting the idea that he washalf in and half out of his

(01:13:08):
body.
You know, the the the cosmicsky, the glowing moon, the
pulsing stars all seemed tobreathe with spirit.
And he's he tried to connectthem.
You know, the the cypress treeconnects earth to heaven, a
spiritual ladder or or flame.
And the village below sleepsunaware of the mystery overhead.

(01:13:29):
So here on the soul report,we're giving you sort of this
information about a starrynight, a map of the soul in
searching of a home, heavenabove and chaos below, but
always in light.
And we think that's myimpression is that's what Van
Gogh was going through.
Could be right, could be wrong.

(01:13:50):
Why do you think there's aresurgence of interest in him
now, Doctor?
Because we're all halfway inand out of our bodies.
We're going through this timeof great travail.
This is a time of chaos.
Some people can't stand it.
The pain is so great.
And the world is crying outright now with the cruelty and

(01:14:14):
the warfare and theindifference.
You know, immigrants have beenleaving their countries in
Africa, going to Spain and intoEurope.
People in South America andSouthern America and Latin
America have been coming northto America and Canada.
People have been going to GreatBritain, people have been

(01:14:35):
migrating into India and China.
And you know, what's going on?
Well, they're not happy at homebecause something really bad is
going on.
And so they're trying to lookfor a better life, not an
economic better life like usedto be.
If you want to make a milliondollars, you want to get on that

(01:14:56):
yellow brick road, you go toAmerica, and you're everybody's
a millionaire.
Everybody knows that all overthe world, except the people in
America.
We're all just working stiffs,right?
So but so but the idea was thatwe have to take care of each
other.
And and if there's a bigproblem why people are leaving
their country, why isn't it thatthe politics, the most powerful

(01:15:21):
people in the world, why don'tthey go to those countries and
put those greedy, self-servient,dictator type people in their
place and say, you take care ofyour people?
I've said this years and yearsago, I say it today.
You are the leader of thecountry.
Yes, you can, you know, step upto the trough and fill up and

(01:15:43):
take advantage, but you have totake care of your people.
And if you don't, we, thebigger nations being responsible
for the world, we're gonnareplace you.
We're gonna find somebody elsethat really cares about their
own people.
If that could be done, theworld would the immigration
problem would stop overnight.

(01:16:04):
There would be people who lovetheir homeland, love their
country, love to stay with theirfamilies, but they wouldn't be
afraid in their own country.
They wouldn't be financiallyraped, and they wouldn't be
financially, emotionally, andcall it spiritually, abused by
the tyrants in their country.

(01:16:25):
I mean, that's what can go on.
I'm not going to digress toomuch about that, but I've been
saying this for years.
If I was president of theworld, that's what I would do.
I would go to the regionalpeople in power and say, see me,
I have all the power in theworld, I have all the soldiers
in the world under my command.

(01:16:46):
And if you don't behave and youdon't show me that you're
qualified to be the president,the prime minister, the governor
of your country, we're going toreplace you and get somebody
else.
Maybe cousin Izzy or cousinOlive or Cousin Mary is going to
be a better leader.
We're going to put them inplace.
So shape up or ship out.

(01:17:07):
The world would stop.
The terror and the case, thepain and the suffering would
stop in a moment.
Because those guys that aregreedy, guess what?
They don't want to be out ofpower, out of privilege.
Because when they're not inpower and getting privilege and
all those other wonderful thingsabout being at the top of the

(01:17:30):
food chain, what are they?
They're nothing.
And usually when people getbooted out of power, tyrants and
and and bad leaders, whathappens to them?
They fade away and they passaway soon thereafter.
So I'm not not saying that'swhat I want.
If I was the most powerful, ifsomebody, when I was a young
man, asked me this question, andI and the answer he gave me was

(01:17:53):
something different than whatI'm giving, but I was shocked
and never thought of it thatway.
But if there was one presidentof the world, and there could be
someday, then everybody elsecould run their own country,
their own way, their ownreligion, their own commerce,
but it would have to be for thegreater good of the country.
And you know what?

(01:18:14):
Looking back in history, thegreatest uh prosperity in the
world for those countries wasrun by a benevolent leader who
did just that.
They took care of theircountries.
That's where we're gonna go.
But first we've got to get tothis far extreme of letting
these billionaires and theoligarchs and and these people
who are raping everybodyfinancially because they're

(01:18:37):
afraid of losing their own uhprosperity.
Perhaps I don't know for sure.
I'm not one of them, I'm just apoor working guy.
But if it was if we had thatmentality, it would change just
like that.
I mean, we can see the logic ofit, right?
But corruption is the is uhleads to injustice, and
injustice leads to poverty.

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Poverty and pain lead towarfare.

Les (01:19:04):
All right.
Uh well the answer to riddle methis was a thought.
If you remember the riddle.

Douglas (01:19:13):
I'll repeat it again.

Les (01:19:15):
I have no voice and yet I speak to you.
I have no body and yet I ambehind clothes.
I am not alive and yet I can beborn and remember, and I often
guide you while you dream.
What am I?
A thought.

Douglas (01:19:25):
A thought.
There you go.
Very good.

Les (01:19:27):
We wouldn't give them a cliffhanger.

Douglas (01:19:30):
Oh yeah, we we wanted to let them know that we knew
the answer before we uh, youknow, gave them a remote.
That we that we weren't justhoping somebody would answer
that for us, you know.
Like uh sorry.

Les (01:19:42):
Anyway, we have a question from Civil Farmer.
Uh, does the Bible, oh, this isan interesting question.
Does the Bible say anythingabout living in a world with AI
workers are using AI and whetherthis is acceptable to use AI or
is God's creation the only way?

Douglas (01:19:58):
That's about four questions in one, Nara, because
I'm going like about answer.
If I take that in summary, whatdoes the Bible say anything
about AI?
Well, I, you know, Moses wentup on the mountain and he got
his version of AI.
He came down with the tablets.
God spoke to him.
Okay.
I mean, AI, that'ssuperintelligence.

(01:20:18):
Uh, Christ was getting divineinformation because he was
talking to angels, and hisdisciples were scared stiff.
They saw him talking to angels,and uh he came and said, What's
the matter?
And he said, I'm talking to theangels.
You know, so he was gettingdivine uh information.
So um what's the latter half ofthat question?

Les (01:20:37):
That uh well, does the Bible say anything about living
in a world with AI workers orusing AI and whether this is
acceptable to use AI or is God'screation the only way?

Douglas (01:20:48):
Well, okay, like it doesn't specifically say AI in
the Bible, but it talks aboutspiritual gifts, talking in
tongues.
It talks about clairvoyance, ittalks about prophecy.
So there's a higherintelligence that we're getting
in contact with.
But most often it's like how wedeal with each other, how we
take care of each other.

(01:21:09):
That's what the the good books.
There's several spiritualbooks, and that's what they're
all teaching us how to get alongwith each other, how to help
each other and help to deal witheach other.
Do do we need AI like thiscomputer-driven source of
information, or is it from thegreat beyond?
Well, in biblical times it wasfrom the great beyond prophecy.

(01:21:30):
Uh, the the the leaders of thechurches, if you will, the
temples were all prophets, andso they were getting information
from beyond, and they wereusing that to help people.
I mean, if you want to look atit, like um what buttons was the
Christ pushing when he took uhsome samples of fish and some
samples of loaves and fedthousands of people, so much so

(01:21:54):
that there were seven baskets ofgarbage left over.
And all they started off was afew loaves of bread and a few
um.
So, I mean, there's lots ofpeople talking about the
materialization effect,whatever, but the same as water
into wine and things like that.
But the the idea is that theBible talks about us taking care

(01:22:14):
of each other and working withwhat we have, being mindful of
what we have, being grateful forwhat we have, and praying to
God always uh in the way that wewant things and need things,
and that whatever we ask for isgoing to be given.
You ask and you shall receive.
However, there's two conditionsto that.
Ask for anything.

(01:22:36):
But then you have to go andseek what you're looking for,
your prayer to happen, and youhave to go knock on doors.
So you have to go ask people tohelp you.
You have to do those twoconditions to get whatever you
pray for.

Les (01:22:48):
So, in other words, you're saying ask for the opportunity
to get what you want.

Douglas (01:22:52):
No, it says ask and it shall be given.
It doesn't say anything aboutlimitations.
But when you ask for something,then you have to be this is the
teachings of me, is to befocused.
Go and seek wherever you canfind it yourself, and then go
and ask everybody, knocking ondoors.
Most people fall down on the uhthey kind of look haphazardly

(01:23:15):
for whatever, uh, and then theykind of casually mention.
I've seen this in action withtwo different people who needed
a car, two of them at the sametime, and they both did the same
thing.
They asked everybody they metif they knew where they could
get a car.
Then they went and theyactually visited people.

(01:23:37):
One actually went to a used cardealership, and the dealer gave
him a used car to use for awhile.
Wow.
Another one went to his son'sgirlfriend's mother's place, and
she had an old car sitting outon the on the street that wasn't
being used.
He had to boost the battery upand pump up the tires, and he
had that car.

(01:23:58):
They both got cars within thesame time frame for nothing, but
they did the two things.
They asked everybody they knew,and they went anywhere they
possibly could to get a car.
And that's the secret aboutgetting anything you want.
Not to give up, not to doubt,and say, I need a banana
sandwich.
I'm gonna get that bananasandwich.

(01:24:19):
Do you know anybody that's gotsome bread and bananas?
You go to a store and you say,I got no money, can I have can I
have some bread and sandwichand bananas?
And you keep, you might not getthe the first time you might
not get there, but the second orthird time the boss says, Yeah,
sure.
Come on in, I'll give you abanana sandwich.
And by the way, would you liketo sweep up the back floor?
I can give you uh in the backroom, I can give you a couple of

(01:24:40):
bucks too.
So that's how prayer works.
We all fall down and then weexpect, you know, give me, give
me, give me.
Oh, God doesn't take care ofme.
How many times have we we knowpeople in our life where
somebody would say, and I'vedone this too, you offer
somebody a job and they say, No,I don't I don't want to do
that.
You got no money.

(01:25:01):
Well, I don't want to do that.
Okay.
So uh uh answer that's a longway to answer that question
about what the Bible says aboutAI, but it's basically AI back
in the old days was theconnection, the spiritual
connection with the divine.
In the temples, the holy men.
If you go to India these days,you'll find all over the country

(01:25:24):
there are holy men and women.
They are holy, they're notdoubted that they might be
seemed crazy, they don't wearany clothes for himself of some
sex, they have no clothes, theywant nothing, no material
things, but they have divinecommunication.
And so that's what we'relooking for in ancient times or
spiritual things thisconnection.

(01:25:44):
We do meditation,contemplation, we uh attempt to
get to higher spiritual realmsby preparing ourselves with
spiritual practices, which weteach at many mansions, uh,
international ministries church.
And then you get familiar withthe energies, spiritual healing,
telekinesis, and and the like.

(01:26:05):
So, yes, the Bible has allthose abilities.
This was a little differentback then than is now.

Les (01:26:11):
Well, you know, my take on it is a little different.
You know, you and I both loveaviation, we've both uh taken
flying lessons.
And I remember you've probablyheard of the old adage of, well,
you know, if man were meant tofly, he would have been given
wings.
And my thought was, well, ifman wasn't meant to fly, he
wouldn't have been given thebrain to invent the airplane.
So obviously, this is part ofGod's plan to use AI, it just

(01:26:37):
it's just a tool, just like agun.
It can be used to hunt andgather food, or it can be used
to protect you, it can be usedto instill harm.
So I guess it's all up to us.

Douglas (01:26:44):
Well, somebody told us about electricity.
There was none of that not toolong ago.
Somebody told us about gasfurnaces and oil burning
furnaces, and that wasn't aroundtoo long ago.
Somebody changed uh horsepowerfrom horses with uh, you know,
wagons and and uh bridles tohorsepower that the internal

(01:27:08):
combustion engine.
So it's like everything else.
So you know, the worst thingabout the world uh that happened
in the world was the internalcombustion engine, which
pollutes the world every day bymillions of cars.
The best thing about the uhautomobile was that it was
invented and we all get to movearound and go anywhere we want,
saved lives, trucks, fireengines, transportation.

(01:27:31):
So, like all things ofimportance, it's a balance in
this material world.
Any more questions out there?

Les (01:27:38):
Yeah, we got one from Laveric Cruz from Facebook.
Uh Douglas, what are yourthoughts on today's education
system, woke culture in schools,colleges, sexual contents in
books, and movements likefeminism and me too shaping
young minds?

Douglas (01:27:52):
We'll be right back for next week's show.
Listen, uh, you know, like whenit gets into specifics that are
so extreme like that, they thisis this is something I we we
all know we live long enough.
I mean, and this is the thing,everybody remember this because
uh when I heard it I didn'tbelieve it either.
But remember this you knowsaying what goes around comes

(01:28:15):
around.
Um if you tell somebody theycan't have something, they will,
when they get older, doeverything in their power to get
it.

Les (01:28:27):
True.

Douglas (01:28:27):
If you tell a child they cannot have a slingshot,
you know, one of those thingswith a little Y in a and an
alley, you tell me forbid themto not have it.
The first thing that they theywill get when they're able and
capable of acting on their own,they'll get a slingshot thing.
Or a gun or a car or whateverthey whatever you say they can't

(01:28:49):
do, they will do it becauseyou're putting in front of them
uh resistance and human natureis uh tell me I can't do it, and
I'm gonna prove you wrong.
That works really well forpeople who are really good
managers, you know.
They go to somebody and say,Well, I know Sam, this is a big
machine, you know, the previousworker put on a hundred pieces
an hour, might be a little toomuch for you, you know.

(01:29:11):
Like, I don't know if you canhandle it.
You'd have to really learn, youknow, and I don't know, I don't
think you could do that.
Oh, yeah, I can do that, I cando that.
Are you sure?
And and Sam says yes, and thenhe tries to prove the wrong the
boss wrong by by seceding lotmore than he thought he could.
That's just that's a simple uhmanagement technique.
Okay, so moving forward to uhwoke sexual stuff, uh books,

(01:29:38):
whatever.
Hey, see this thing in front ofyou?
It's called the internet.
You think those little sevenyear old, ten year olds aren't
on the internet finding out allabout this stuff you told them
they can't see, they don't know,stay away from.
They're out there right now.
And and remember the teachingis the pendulum swings one way

(01:29:59):
and It swings back way.
And if you look back inhistory, people who would
consume alcohol were at somepoint in their society told that
alcohol was forbidden.
Look at the states when theywent through prohibition.
Oh my God.

Les (01:30:16):
They created the gangster.
Yeah.

Douglas (01:30:18):
It went the pendulum went one way, and guess what?
It came back.
Now, I'm going to use uhbecause I'm familiar in Texas on
the Wichita Trail and thecattle drives.
All the cowboys were drivingthe cattle north and they would
get the towns.
They would get their paycheck.
They would go into the townsand they'd whoop it up at the

(01:30:38):
local entertainment places,including the bars and other
places, and uh they'd move on.
Well, the towns becameprosperous, and people moved to
town, and then they said, Weneed a school, we need a church,
and now what we don't need is abunch of drunken cowboys out on
the street, down at the localentertainment place, down at the

(01:31:00):
bars.
We don't want that here.
And okay, so what happened?
The cattle drive moved on upthe up the trail, another 10
miles to the next house, thenext town, and that prosperous
town that was created witheredand died.
Yeah.
Because there's no conference.
So the pendulum swing one wayor the other.

(01:31:20):
So what's the answer?
Tolerance.
Don't be afraid of what thekids are going to learn or not
learn.
Because I guarantee all this uhuh book burning and denialing
of uh of information and areinvention of history, those
little kids are gonna say, So Ican't have a slingshine, you
just watch me.
You can't I can't get thosebooks on sex, you just watch me.

(01:31:43):
Yeah, you uh you you tell me Ican't whatever.
So the the idea it's for mebeing an older man and and
seeing this, having this playedout before, it's kind of
humorous in a sad way that thethe people that are saying our
kids aren't going to do this,we're not gonna allow them to do
that, they are programmingtheir children to do exactly

(01:32:07):
what they say they don't wantthe children to do.
Now, I'm not talking aboutmanners, getting along with each
other, living life that'sperfectly uh wonderful.
But here's the ticket childrenlearn by example.
So if mommy and daddy are fullof hate and suspicious and

(01:32:28):
afraid, the kids are gonna learnthat too.
So watch out what you teachyour kids by example.
So I've wondered a little bitfrom the question, but it's a
very important one because theanswer is so simple that you
tell somebody they can't dosomething, they are going to do
it.
You tell somebody they cannothave something, they are going

(01:32:49):
to get it as soon as they can.
So moderation by example,understanding, you know, like if
somebody if some somebody likesapple juice and you don't,
well, that's who cares?
Let them drink their applejuice.
You don't have to go on acrusade to stop apple juice from
being sold in stores.

Les (01:33:09):
Okay, I mean I might be overly simplistic, uh, but
that's the that's the way youkind of brought the show full
circle, Doug, because we startedin the beginning of the show
talking about how you know, likewhen my mom didn't want me to
eat any chocolate and she said,Go ahead, have the whole bag.
She wanted me to learn and Igot sick as a dog.

Douglas (01:33:26):
That's right.
That's right.
If you if you want your kids tolearn how to be, you know,
think about that.
If you want your kids to learnhow to be happy, teach them 360
degrees about life.
Don't try to don't try to teachyour kids what you think they
ought to learn because whatyou're doing is you're teaching
them things that you mademistakes at and you don't like

(01:33:49):
about yourself, so you're tryingto teach your kids to stay away
from those things.
And any psychologist, anyanybody who knows about children
will tell you they have to maketheir own mistakes.
They have to.
And if you try to, if you tryto, you know, like sequester a
child so they're isolated andthey don't make mistakes, what

(01:34:10):
you're doing, pardon me forsaying this, but you're creating
a rather vulnerable, moronictype of person who is going to
be susceptible to anybody'spersuasion, anybody's commands,
anybody's uh power over them.
What you want is a kid thatdoesn't mind getting its hands
dirty, knows that if you getyour clothes dirty, you gotta

(01:34:32):
wash them in the washingmachine.
Anyway.

Les (01:34:36):
Anyway, our final question for tonight uh is from Marilyn,
and she wants to know uh how doI know in this time of extremes,
uh, am I fulfilling my purposein life?

Douglas (01:34:46):
Are you breathing?
You're fulfilling your purpose.
Right there.
Life and purpose is experienceof life.
Experiencing life.
You live your life outside, youspend your life inside.

(01:35:07):
So, do you want to go and learnhow to ride horses?
Go and do it.
Yes, but I might fall off andget hurt.
Well, but you want to learn howto ride a horse?
Yes, I oh, I can't hardly wait.
Well, take some lessons first.
That's a guarantee that youmight not get hurt.

(01:35:27):
But if you want to jump on thathorse, go right to it.
But remember you're taking anunnecessary chance.
You gotta you need a littlecoaching or teaching.
So the answer is are youfulfilling your purpose?
Are you happy?
Remember, happy is the resultof something else.
Are you doing something thatmakes you happy?

(01:35:48):
That's the secret.
Are you curious about life?
Are you surrounding yourselfwith likable people?
Remember, if you're not likesomewhere, don't go there.
Stay away from it.
Are you fulfilling yourselfthat you feel satisfied, that
you feel accomplished, thatyou've done something that you

(01:36:11):
feel good about doing?
Whatever it is, it can bereally, really hard or it can be
really, really simple.
So the criteria comes down tounderstanding nobody is
responsible to make you happy,you are responsible to make
yourself happy.
And how do you know you'reyou're you're fulfilling your
purpose?
You're breathing.

(01:36:31):
You're just living your lifeand you're doing okay.
Now, you might be a highachiever, you might be a low
achiever, but at least you'reachieving.
But are you happy?
And as such, if you are, thenyou'll face challenges and
difficulties in your lifeknowing that God provided them.

(01:36:54):
How many of us less go and say,Oh God, I I pray for wisdom, I
want to be the wise, oh please,I want to have wisdom.
The answer to that is you'regonna meet the dumbest people in
the world.
You're gonna have to deal withthem all so that you'll get
wisdom on how not to deal withthem or how to handle them.
Oh, I want strength, God,please, I need strength.

(01:37:16):
I want to be so okay.
More problems to that one,Metatron.
She's asking for strength.
Give her a whole bunch ofproblems to solve so she's gonna
be stronger.
I went through those questions.
I'm making fun of it, but thepoint is this you ask for
something, and to get it, youhave to earn it.
Period.
You want strengths, you'regonna have to do problems.

(01:37:38):
So I know I want to know how tohave a really easy, relaxing
life.
I just want to know how to dothat.
I want to have, you know, GodAlmighty, I want to learn how to
be so easy and calm andpeaceful.
And so God's gonna give me whateasy, peaceful, kind things to
do.
I'm being a little a little umuh comedic about it, but the

(01:38:01):
point is this uh if you'rebreathing, you're you're living
your life and you are succeedingbecause you're experiencing
life.
If you don't like what you'redoing, change.
In the in the Christian Bible,it says Christ said, if you
don't like your right arm, if itoffends you, cut it off.
Wow, that sounds terrific.
Okay, that's the answer,amputation.

(01:38:25):
For everything, okay?
That isn't what he meant.
He meant something's offensiveto you, even though you like it,
get rid of it.
I was wearing a watch once andit put a put a red thing on my
on my wrist.
And um, I wore it all the time,and I was constantly moving it.
And I was talking to thebaroness one day, and she said,

(01:38:49):
She said, What's the matter?
I said, Oh my my wrist, it'sit's the it's the metal, it's
flaking a little bit, and it'severything.
She said, Well, why are youwearing it?
I was wearing it because it wassentimental, I've had it for a
long time, but it was botheringme.
So there you go.
That's a prime example of ifsomething's bothering you,

(01:39:12):
dispose of it, get rid of it,avoid it, and go only where
things are making you happy.
But you know less, human natureis such, we don't like the easy
way.
We like the hard way.
If you notice that, my friends,you'll always do the hard
thing.
You won't do the easy thing.
Oh no, no, no.
I play solitary, I win all thetime.

(01:39:34):
I want to learn, I want tolearn how to play play poker,
and you lose your shirt playingpoker, but go back to solitary,
you get the satisfaction becauseyou can do it easy.
We are creatures of habit, butwe have bad habits.
And I'm talking about badhabits, meaning we always seem
to want to do things the hardway.

Les (01:39:56):
Yeah.

Douglas (01:39:57):
Wise people go, let's see, I can live on the tenth
floor of that wonderfulpenthouse building up there, or
I can go across the street andlive on that first floor of that
uh moderate, medium-sizedplace.
Let's see.
Walk up 10 floors, elevator,moving, walk across the street,
walk in front level.

(01:40:17):
I think I'll take the one onthe on the first floor.
So says the wise person.

Les (01:40:22):
It's interesting.
There was an analogy I justcame to mind.
I had a friend of mine, her andher partner, they were
traveling through Italy and theywere driving, and they came
across this cute little Italianrestaurant.
And uh, just to wrap up theshow with this little story, um,
the uh they went into this cutelittle Italian restaurant and
they walked, they sat down tothis cute little table and they
asked for a menu.

(01:40:43):
So the waiter, long, you know,couple with a big mustache and a
typical Italian waiting.
He comes over and goes, so theysay, We'll have this, this, and
this.
And he said, No.
Okay, well, then we can canwe'll have this, this, and this.
And he went, No.
So they said, Well, what can wehave?
He said, I'm gonna make you adelicious antipasta, you're
gonna have the local wine, it'llbe delicious.

(01:41:04):
And I'll bring it right up.
So I said, How did it go?
She said, It was delicious, andthe wine was fabulous.
So they finally asked him, Whydid you give us a menu?
He said, Because you asked fora menu.
Talk about life, huh?
What's the matter, you?
You wanted a menu, I gave you amenu.

(01:41:25):
I thought of myself, but that'sa great analogy for life.
Uh well, next week uhup-and-coming shows will be
talking more about uhinteresting things such as
Nikola Tesla, and we'll becovering things like the Bermuda
Triangle as far as mysteriesand unexplained.
Any final thoughts on today'sshow, Doug?

Douglas (01:41:41):
Watch out, it's gonna be cold.
Uh my trees, my cherry tree inthe back room is already uh back
room, backyard is alreadylosing the leaves.
Uh, predictions that I've comeacross here and there, uh
willy-nilly, is that looks likewe're gonna have an early fall
and it's gonna be cold.
Um, pray for the people thatare being uh uh cruelly treated

(01:42:03):
around the world and do whateveryou can to help.
And remember, you know, whatyou give out comes back to you.
And uh, whoever wins that $1.1billion, would they please
remember me and their prayersand maybe contribute to the show
about 10%, you know, a littletithing.
We would love to have that.
Uh um, that's our prayer.

(01:42:25):
Uh, we're asking everybodyshould they win the lottery,
that they'll help support us.
Otherwise, when we get ourbrand new Soul Report, uh, what
can we call that?
Mascot or icon uh cup that thatLes has designed, spent hours
and hours and hours sweatingover um a hot stove.

(01:42:45):
We'll probably have them herenext week for you, and uh we'll
we'll let you know where you canget them.
My website is tripledouglasjamescultural.com.
Please buy my books.
I have uh some sitting in mystorage that just are looking
for a nice home.
They're orphaned, they want tobe loved, and they want to sit
on your bookshelf uh and becomfortable and welcomed.

(01:43:08):
And of course, it'll be a goodread.
Oh, yeah, very good read.

Les (01:43:11):
I can assure you of that.
Very good read.

Douglas (01:43:13):
Yeah, here on the here on the soul report, we're really
happy that you've joined us, myfriends.
You know, uh uh we're here tobe of service to you.
So we want you to uh let usknow how we can help you, what
we can do for you, and and ifyou can, you know, take the uh
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(01:43:35):
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I mean, basically, we're hereto be of service to you.
So if you can, you know, uh uhlet it let everyone know that
we're out here and we'reavailable and that we're uh uh
we're here for you on the SoulReport Live.
Uh this brings us to an end ofanother Soul Report, but not to
the end of the journey.

(01:43:55):
If anything stirred your hearttonight, if a thought, a memory,
or even a dream rises afterthis show, that could be a
little bit of that energy givenoff to the show tonight.
Follow it.
This is your spirit speaking toyou.
Remember, the spirit speaksthrough dreams and visions and
visitations and throughmeditation.

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You are here to transform it.
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