Episode 121. Sasquatch, Missing 411 & Kwakwaka'wakw Legends: Tom Sewid Breaks It All Down

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Every chief during her potlatches would bring out their
most valuable Crest, which is Tunaha, wild woman of the woods,
and you'd see the puckered up lips carved on the mask, sleepy
eyes, fur regalia. Some depictions have a basket on
the back, like my family. Other families might have a sack
or a baby one with them or two come out or a transformation

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mask where it transforms into something else.
So it's pretty amazing seeing that.
And then of course, driving through the community of Alert
Bay, you'd see the graveyard with all the memorial totem
poles and fight five of them hadJunoch has carves at the base,
which is the highest ranked Crest and displaying it on a
memorial pole for a chief who passed and without stretched

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arms like you see on some of them.
It's telling you that his in life, his wealth and power could
be felt around the world. So that Jonah has a lot of
significance to us and more so being a kid because you're told
Tommy yourself otherwise. Tonak was watching.
And if you misbehave and act up and are lazy, fight, steal

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things, don't eat your food or do your chores, she's going to
come at night with big hairy armand stick it through the window
and grab you and push tree SAP in your eyes from the spruce
tree so you can't see. And she's going to throw you in
that basket on her back, carry you deep into the forest, up a
mountain to her invisible home. And that's where Tonak was going
to boil you up and eat you. So you behave yourself here and

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that you know, you definitely were instilled with Sasquatch
right from with earliest memory.And you know, even my kids, I
put the fear of chewing on them many times.

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Aloha and welcome to another show, guys.
Our special guest today is Tom See with a quack.
Quack you walk in. Creed First Nation Storyteller A
Sasquatch investigator and expert on Indigenous history,
Tom has spent decades living in the wild, gathering first hand

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encounters, exploring the deep cultural significance of
Sasquatch, and sharing the traditional stories passed down
through generations. His knowledge and experience
offers a perspective you won't hear anywhere else.
Before we dive in, please be sure to follow, subscribe, and
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Now, without further ado, let's welcome Tom to the show.
Before we start, when you get back to Hawaii, we should do one
on the little people because yes.

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The Mini who need? Yeah, and I've followed a couple
video clips about that, but yeah, we should do one.
Then I can bring my mask and regalia.
OK, Of course we call it. That's awesome.
That is really cool. Yes, that would be nice.
Thank you. Are you ready to start?
Yep. All right, Well, you got all

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your equipment. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
That's one of my cups. Yeah, I love it.
Oh man, you do some great artwork.
Love it. Thanks.
It's all through here. I see it.
That is pretty darn cool. Well, Aloha, Tom, and welcome to
the show. I'm really excited to have you
here today. And I know you've spent years

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deep into the wilderness or the Bush, I think is what you call
it, gathering stories and experiences and knowledge about
the Zunakua. I'm probably not pronouncing
that right, but from both your personal encounters and your
Indigenous tradition, it's trulyan honor to have this
conversation with you today. And I'm really.

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Greetings. Thanks for inviting me on.
Yeah, I'm a member of the Quakwakiwak First Nation, North
American Indians, northern Vancouver Island, British
Columbia on the coast. And then my mother is a flow
blooded Cree Indian from the Central Plains of Canada.
So I'm mixed blood. But I spent the lifetime in Bush
world, water world, being a commercial fisherman for over 45

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years, which would get me to places that most humans will
never get to, places like Clem to Port Eliza, Kinkum Village
and the list goes on. And when I was there, you know,
the people used to come down to the dock and welcome you and,
you know, some cigarettes off you or a can of Coca-Cola.
And, you know, I'd always ask them, what do you know about

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your Sasquatch? Oh, let me tell you about our
Sasquatch. And then they just start going
on about them. That's awesome.
Can you share some of your first, maybe your personal first
experience or encounter with a Sasquatch?
As a kid growing up in Alert Bay, which is the Numb Geese

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tribes village of the Quakwakiwak Nation, But my
family lived there and we're Numb Geese band members, tribe
members at the time. As a young boy, you know, you go
up to the potlatch, up in the ceremonial big house, the
guilty, and you'd watch the regalia being brought out, the
crests coming to life with masksand regalia, batons being

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pounded on a hollow cedar log with 20 men around it, and deep
baritone song singing and telling you of an encounter of
the Chief and his families ancestor.
And that's the Crest and dance you would see on the floor and
hear the song. But every chief during her
potlatches would bring out theirmost valuable Crest, which is

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tuna Wild woman of the woods. And you'd see the puckered up
lips carved on the mask, sleepy eyes, fur regalia.
Some depictions have a basket onthe back, like my family.
Other families might have a sackor a baby one with them or two
come out or a transformation mask where it transforms into
something else. So it's pretty amazing seeing

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that. And then of course, driving
through the community of Alert Bay, you'd see the graveyard
with all the memorial totem poles.
And five of them had Junakas carves at the base, which is the
highest ranked Crest. And they're displaying it on a
memorial pole for a chief who passed and with outstretched
arms like you see on some of them.

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It's telling you that his in life, his wealth and power could
be felt around the world. So the Chonaka has a lot of
significance to us and more so being a kid because you're told
Tommy, you behave yourself otherwise Chonaka is watching.
And if you misbehave and act up and are lazy, fight, steal

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things, don't eat your food or do your chores, she's going to
come at night with big hairy armand stick it through the window
and grab you and push a tree SAPin your eyes from the spruce
tree so you can't see. And she's going to throw you in
that basket on her back, carry you deep into the forest, up a
mountain to her invisible home. And that's where Jonah was going
to boil you up and eat you so you behave yourself.

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So hearing that, you know, you definitely were instilled with
Sasquatch, right from with his earliest memory.
And you know, even my kids, I put the fear of Jonah on them
many times. That's great.
How large do these tuna qua get?Is it as big as that?
Really, how big is that behind you?

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Is he like 8 feet? Behind me is 8 1/2 feet.
So that's a big Sasquatch in thePacific Northwest.
You know, I've heard stories of nine and 10 and 12 footers, but
I've never seen tracks or evidence or seen one.
But I have seen them on numerousoccasions.
And the biggest one I saw was over 8 1/2 feet tall.
It was big and shoulders just aswide as Biggie behind me.

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And the first time I saw one, I,you know, I look back in memory
because I was probably about 12 years old.
I was in a pickup truck with my father driving north of Campbell
River through the forest on the highway.
We come down this hill and it turned to the right and, you
know, we've been there many times.
You know, there's a guardrail there for the corner and there's
a pullover on the other side forthe southbound traffic with the

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cement garbage can to be bear proof.
And as we come down, our headlights illuminated that
guardrail and they're sitting onit was just.
What I thought was a big man at first, it put its left arm down
and it just sting. Sprung.
And you can see the hair moving,you can see the muscles, you can
see the Gray white soles of its big feet.

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And it disappeared down the bankbehind it.
And my dad's like, all exciting.We just saw it off of a
Sasquatch. And I was so scared, I skittered
over and sat beside my dad on the and, you know, even though
we're going 60 miles an hour. But I was my first time I'd ever
seen one. And it stuck with me, of course,

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and I think it helped me read the books that came out, John
Green and others and listen to Renee the Hindon because he was
Canadian and and John Green there would be on news and
different shows in British Columbia.
And then Leonard Nimoy's movie that he narrated, Unsolved

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Mysteries or something came out about Loch Ness Monster, UFOs,
the Mayan calendar and Sasquatch.
And that's where I saw the famous 1967 Paddy clip of Rodger
Patterson, Bob Gimlin. And I'm just like, that's what I
saw. That's exactly what I saw.
And I dwelled deeper into the mythology, I guess you could say

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from other tribes and people. And then the science component I
dwelled upon, I was always Tommy10,000 questions and I always
had my head in the book. So Sasquatch, when I went into
the up to Alert Bay in the summer when I was around 14,
there was Alert day trading post, just the corner store, but
it's a small community at one ofthe only stores.

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And I went in there and they hadall John Green books and
everything and that was commercial fishing.
I bought every one of them that summer and still have some of
them in my collection. And then, you know, I'd be out
in the Bush. We'd be, you know, go anchor
out, go ashore at night when thebig low tide was happening and
we go clam digging. And all of a sudden you'd get

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that Wallace Yakbala, that big stink.
And one of the older guys would go, oh, sounds like we've got
tuna watching us. We must be on their shellfish
meats. Tommy, take those cockles type
of shellfish. That's a delicacy and you don't
get very many when you're clam digging.
You know, we're going for mainlybutter clams, which you might

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get 100 lbs of butter clams and maybe one cockle.
That's how you know, harder to come by.
They're the delicacy of we native people as well as the
Sasquatch and what's the little people?
But we'll get into that later. But anyway, I take this arm load
of cockles. Up the low tide beach, about
60-70 yards, get up to the wall at Black Forest and you can

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smell it, the Sasquatch. And I'm throwing those cockles
in and I turned and man, I my footsteps are probably as wide
as a Sasquatch running. I went down that beach so fast.
Get back to the lanterns that was.
Scary. And then as I got older, I'd be
the one that point to the young guy.
Hey, you hear that tree get pushed down?
There's no wind. There's no leaves on it either.

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It's winter time. So something pushed it down,
probably telling us, what are you doing on my shelfish beach?
You take those cockles there andyou go up to the tree line and
throw them in, give them a gift.And that way it doesn't bother
us or those kids. Sometimes they'd be almost
crying when they come running back from the bushes.

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And then, you know, being a avidhunter and when I was in my late
teens, me and my cousin, we would disappear for days upon
days. We'd take a boat up the inlets
and we'd just go up old logging roads, go through the timber,
punch through into the Alpine atthe high levels and just walk

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through what we called the stairway to heaven.
It was just so beautiful up there and a new world.
It wasn't like down at sea level, It was a totally
different world and saw the animals and trails, footprints,
seen them a couple times at a distance and you'd hear them at
night, you know, you'd hear thembang, bang and across the valley

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or hill. Another one would answer and
they're just basically intimidating you.
You know, you'd be lying in yoursleeping bag and your tarp
around you and pull your gun a little closer.
And you know, we knew that we were never allowed to harm or
disrespect or think of killing aSasquatch.
But fear is fear. You know, you, you never know if
big hairy arms are going to comeand grab you.

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And so finally in I guess early 1990s, I was a captain of a
commercial salmon sane fish boatwith a crew of of five people.
But at that time it was just my girlfriend and my engineer and
my native crew man. We anchored out in front of my
trailer. I had a 26 foot trailer that I
built a 10 by 10 addition on on the beach when I was doing some

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native Watchmen work for my native.
Tribe and we're just anchored out after dark and we're cooking
a bucket of a pot of crab legs on the Coleman stove on the
Hatch covers for the fish holders my girlfriend was in the
galley playing cards with. Trevor, my engineer.
And then all of a sudden we justheard this.
Dang against that aluminum sidedtrailer and you know, right away

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I'm thinking, you know maybe it was a metal kerosene cans for
the heater we had underneath thetrailer.
They might have contracted because of the.
Cool. Of Dart and I'm thinking about
it and I'm going, no, I brought those home there in my garage.
And then we saw two shadow figures.

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Basically, like Biggie walk in front of that trailer.
Now this is a full moon out, so it's really lit up.
There's no wind, no rain, no clouds, just still calm.
And we see these two big figureswalk by the trailer.
Trailers got to be 10 feet high and those things, their heads
were just a little bit. Lower than that, the big one,
anyway. And then you heard that
whistling, chirping, warbling lip.

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Smack and wall if you stink and gag instinct.
And I heard my buddy beside me say in his language, Sasquatch.
And I'm thinking, jeez, maybe itis Sasquatch.
So I went to the galley door open, lean my head in, said
JoJo. Turn down that, turn off that
boom box and you 2 come on deck.We think we got two Sasquatches

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on the beach by the trailer. So of course they came out, they
smelled it. You heard the whistle warbling
chirp again. And Trevor looks at me and goes
what the hell is that? And I said, remember when?
We had that little encounter last summer, or you did behind
the trailer. I think they're back.
At the same time of the year, October and Trevor flicked the

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cigarette overboard, ran I through the galley, down the
engine room, shut the doorway, big metal door, and the folks
all about the boat downstairs for the cruise quarters.
That was last we saw him that. Night he wasn't coming back out
and. We put the spotlight on and
illuminated a big male and a bigfemale.
And the male was standing just inside the 4-5 foot high reedy

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grass with the spruce and hemlock and sapling trees, maybe
about 1215 feet high. But that Sasquatch has dropped
on his knee and pulled his arm in front of his face.
And you can see two eyes reflecting one eye, 1 1/2 eye,
two eyes as it was breathing looking at that spotlight.

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And I'm talking the spotlight that's about that round and
about, you know, 18 inches deep.It's a powerful spotlight on the
boat and the female, she droppedto her knees like a fetal
position with her head on the ground that you see her covering
her head, but she was looking underneath her armpit and you
could. See her reflected yellowish
orange eye And 2025 minutes, they're on that beach.

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They weren't moving. We were throwing potatoes,
apples, splashing in the water, trying to get them to move.
They wouldn't turn the spotlightoff after about 25 minutes.
And then you could hear that. And then they enter the forest
here, the cracking of twigs and that, and then all of a sudden a
big loud noise of a rotten tree being pushed down and crashing

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in on the forest and they disappeared.
They were scared, I guess. Probably more angry that we lit
them up with the spotlight. It's not their their harvesting.
Yeah. So then JoJo went to bed.
Trevor's downstairs still. So Dean and I, you know, we

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stayed up smoking cigarettes, sitting up on the bridge of the
boat up top. And then all of a sudden about
45 minutes goes by and to our sort of left, the next part of
the Bay, which is all low water,muddy sands with a Creek that
comes down. So it's washed out all of the

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sand and sediment, and it's justboulders where the Creek run is.
All of a sudden we heard what wecall a blue Heron type of crane,
and when they get spooked by a mink or something at night when
they're sleeping, they'll fly away and then they're like a
pterodactyl. That's the other thing we call

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them. That thing got spooked, flew out
of the Bay, went by the boat anddisappeared.
Something spooked it and then wecould hear that that Sasquatch
was walking down that exposed stream bed, stepping on the
boulders we hit, waited till it got out to the middle of Bay,
which we figured, and we hit it with a spotlight again, but we

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couldn't see. There was mist coming up from
the sediment and sands. And you know, now we're about
two and a half, three hours intodark.
So it's cooled down considerably.
First week, October. And then we got some eye
reflection. We shut it off and when our eyes
got adjusted to the dark again, you could see this rock
outcropping kind of grayish purple in the moonlight.

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And he just saw this big. I got this like biggie behind me
lift up and the shoulders on it.I was just like, holy jeez, that
thing's huge. And then it disappeared and you
could hear it going through the Bush and then all of a sudden it
come out on the rock solid rock beach, high tide area and it
disappeared in the Bush and it'scoming along parallel in my

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boat. And now it's like maybe 60 yards
from us. We're pretty close to the beach,
anchored out. And then it came out of the Bush
again because you could hear it and it was crouched.
Down moving and Dean goes what the F is that?
And that thing stood up. And you can see the hair hanging
off his arms like boom, boom, boom.

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I ran through the galley, hit the spotlight, spun it, looked
out the window and illuminated his back as he reached up,
grabbed a tree and pulled himself into the forest, looked
back at us and gave us that grimace and then disappeared in
the Bush. And you could hear it crashing
through the Bush. And it sort of came back the way
it had come down the beach, crashing through what we call

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salal. It's a really waxy type of
roundish leaf that grows like thick as yarn basket and sounds
like you're dragging a plastic tarp when you walk through it.
It's really noisy. And so it wasn't hiding.
It was crashed, crashed, crashed.
It stopped and it did a high pitched, deep whistle chirp.

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And then further up in the forest, a higher pitched whistle
chirp. The female.
And you could hear them crunching, walking till they met
and then they turned and walked westward deeper into the forest
that would bring them into the abandoned native village of my
tribe known as Mim Khan Lis. No one famously as Mama Lala

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Kula village of Alas Potlatch. There where there is abandoned
houses, fruit trees gone wild, and where I did my native tours
to the tourists to show them thefallen memorial poles and
welcoming poles and big house remains in the village.
And I knew darn well that they were going in there first week

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of October for the plums and crab apples and apples and
whatever else, blackberries. And you know, it was a pretty
amazing experience. It was one of the better ones
documented in North America at the time I got.
Out. Finished my commercial fishery a
couple days later put the boat away.

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And port and I drove down Vancouver Island to my parents
house and told my dad, hey guesswhat?
He goes, jeez, that's funny you should say that.
This guy showed up at my door like 2 weeks ago, white beard,
white hair and he's all excited like a little chipmunk and he's
like, I'm Doctor Bindernagel. I'm understand Mr. Seawood that

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you saw a Sasquatch. I did a presentation at a
school. And your nephew, Norman Seawood.
You know, this young boy said that my Uncle Alvin saw a
Sasquatch. And so my dad said, oh, come on
in. He shared with Don Vanderneagle
that no, I didn't have an experience.
I saw tracks. But my friend saw one run across
the Vancouver Island highway last year.

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So anyway, John interviewed my dad and then gave him his phone
number. And so my dad grabbed it.
He goes. You should give that guy a.
Call. So I phoned him and.
Introduced myself and he was allexcited and I said, well I'm
heading back to Camp River tomorrow, I can stop by your
house, which I did in this town of Courtney and that would start
a lifelong friendship. You know that Doctor John

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Bendigo Daigle and I did so much.
Investigating and talking, and he put me in his first book,
Sasquatch, North America's Undiscovered Grade 8.
That encounter I just talked about is in there.
That's incredible. Wow.
How many Sasquatch do you think there are out there today based

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on your knowledge and your experience, how many quarter of
a million Wow, are there? Is there is there population
growing or do you think it's shrinking?
So I'm a unique investigator because.
I don't use the R word researcher.
I think you can't claim that name and title until you have a

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Diane Fossey, Jane Goodall interaction with Sasquatch.
So everyone's a bumbling, stumbling investigator as far as
I'm concerned. So I ask key questions like when
I'm sitting there, you know you because we listen to podcasts,
we watch video casts, we watch TV documentaries and.
You know, come on now. No offense, but the white people

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are dry as a popcorn fart. You know, it comes to Sasquatch.
It's always the same old repetitive stuff and speculation
that goes out there to woo woo. We're all the portal jumping,
orb turning, mind speaking, cloaking, UFO flying
sasquatches. I'm just like, Oh my God, you're
so full of BS you. I should be brown like an
Indian. And what I do is because I've

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been an Indian all my life, going to be 60 next month, and
I've been tied to my culture that is very tied to the Tonaka
Sasquatch. And then being a Bush man, a
grizzly bear hunting guide for over 20 years, living in the
Bush for over 26 years. You know, I bring all of that
experience. And then when I question people,

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because I'm well educated with an Ivy School Academy for two
years in high school, Shawnig Lake Boys Private School, which
was a boarding school, British type, run the highest, most
prestigious. One back in that era.
And so I was taught how to studyand how to research.
And so when I asked questions, it's not the typical, oh, what

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color was it? Did you smell?
Anything like everyone else does, I'm asking questions to
them. Like when you were young, did
you ever hear any stories about when the smallpox, tuberculosis,
influenza through our native villages and yours included?
Did you ever hear stories about the sasquatches coming with the

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diseases and you just see these elders eyes light up?
I haven't thought about that since I was just a young girl.
My grandfather told me he was a chief, how he was in the
longhouse and his men came in and said, Chief, you better come
out here and look at this. The go Gee, the Sasquatches are
at the edge of the trees at our village.

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And when he went out, they were holding their young and dragging
their sick, covered in smallpox or coughing blood up with
tuberculosis. And he would tell his people, go
inside and get our sick people and show them that we, too are
sick. We have no remedy for this
affliction that's sweeping our communities, our population, our
families. And the Sasquatches would just

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turn and walk and drag their people back in the forest.
So asking key questions like that gives you a better
understanding. Talking to the shamans.
I like to go and reach out to shamans and request that I can
be trained by them. And as I'm being trained by
them, like Omaha Indian Reserve with Omaha medicine lady.

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So you call your Sasquatch Sitonga keeper of the medicine.
Is that where your people learned the traditional remedies
of roots, leaves, flowers and other things?
Well, yes, we'll disappear as a shaman.
Sometimes we're trained by another shaman.
But our shaman, for example, gotin a car accident 25 years ago

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and died. We had no shaman, so I and a
couple others went out and we lived in the forest for months,
some of them almost two years. And we interacted with the
Sitonga, the Sasquatch, and we learned the remedies and we came
back to the village and now we're the medicine people of the
tribe. So I asked that question of
other tribes when I was up in the Northwest Territories,

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Yukon, British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, numerous
states. And the native people tell me,
Oh yes, our. Shaman Apprentice hasn't been
seen for over a year and a half,but he'll come back and he'll
have the knowledge because he's out there with them right now.
And then I asked the next question.

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I said I went to my helicom. My chief speaker of my family,
Adam Dick called my name. Book was written about him, was
the main character in there and the movie was based on that
book. The owl called my name but Adam,
who was one of the earliest grizzly bear trophy hunting

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guides in North America, along with Clayton Mack from the
Newhall Bellacoola Nation. Anyway, Adam's very wise hunter
like I was and everything. That's why I followed in his
footsteps. But I asked him, I said, do they
speak our language? Oh, Gee, that's a funny 1.
He goes, we went up in the 50s. We went up the Kingdom River on

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the canoe with that outboards just came out.
We went way up to the shallow water.
We have a cabin and a smokehouseand teenager boy that was with
us, we gave him a wooden box with a big pot of Stew.
The ladies that made us before we left that morning, we said
good, bring it up to the cabin, up the trail, put the wood stove

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on and throw that on so we have warm meal tonight.
All of a sudden that kid come running back down the trail.
Quick, quick, get the boat. We got to go back.
We got to leave. What do you mean?
We got to leave? When I got up to the cabin, this
big tuna, I was laying down, sleeping beside it, stood up,
looked at me. Yo, Hello.
How are you doing? I don't know who you are.

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Well, how come he didn't answer them back?
You know, Could have told them. Eichmann.
I'm doing good. I got my family with me.
Speak Quack with them. They understand, Tom.
That's what you got to do. So, you know, I've toyed with
it, you know, But other tribes, I've witnessed them actually
pigeon communicating with their Sasquatch.

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So Sasquatches, I firmly believeeven where I am here in the
Olympic Peninsula, I know one tribe member.
Who? His son said.
Oh, we'd know when dad would go walk a boat.
We'd see all his shoes on the porch.
No Dad, we knew his barefoot. He still do that.
But not as long a dad. He just put his head down.

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So when the sun got up and left the table, I said.
I've been watching you, you feral.
You move like you're Bush, man. I said, I'm like that, too.
I spent so many years in Bush. I said, you're interacting with
your Sasquatch, aren't you? We'll get to know one another
better. And that's what I've been trying

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to do. Reach out to him so we can make
that bond. Because Lucas White on the Omaha
Indian Reserve, he was looked after by the Sitanga, 10 or 11
years old, ran in the house. Dad was on the chair, laid back,
discoloured, not breathing. Ran mile and a half down the
road to the next farm and they drove back and sorry, Lucas,

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your dad passed as they put a blanket on him.
Brought Lucas into town to the police.
Police got social service, brought him to his mother's
house and his mother, Raven, alcoholic at the time.
I never wanted to look after youkids.
That's why you lived with your dad, I guess.
Now I got to look after you. Go have a bath.
I'll put food on the table for you when you're coloring.

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But Lucas said he got after his bath, he was eating Froot Loops.
And this is evening time. So, you know, tells you right
there, reservation poverty stricken.
He's eating Froot Loops for dinner and he's coloring.
All of a sudden he looked up, heheard something.
There is a police officer comingup the back stairs.
So he jumped up and ran for the front door and there was a
social service and two police officers and his mum.

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I can't do this Lucas, I can't do this.
You got to go with them. They're going to find you foster
care. So we went to a farmhouse 20
plus miles away that night, elderly non Indian couple.
And he was told he'd do his chores.
Here's your bedroom, there's thefood, and you'll go to school.
That night he gathered up as much as he could, Money, food,

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blankets, and he ran away. Took him three days, 11 years
old to get back to the Indian Reserve.
Started playing with his cousinsand the parents came out Lucas,
the police and social services are looking for you and us
Indians. I don't know what it's like in
Hawaii with the Hawaiian people but us Indians in North America,
we fear two things we don't fearSasquatch.

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We fear the police. They take our parents and we
fear social workers. They take our children and they
told Lucas, you go on, get away,you don't come around.
My kids, your cousins, they might take me and their father.
So he went into the Bush and as it got dark, he came back into
the village to an abandoned house.
And he showed me that house, butit was collapsed when I was

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there five years ago. And he said I went in, there's
no doors, no windows, just a couch.
And I went to sleep. But then the reservation pack
dogs for trying to get in, growling and everything.
So I ran into the closet, close the door and I slept there that.
Night. The next night, day I played in
the Bush, and the next night I went to my grandfather's house
and I went up the oak tree that splays out and I tied myself in

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the branches. Crook and I went to sleep with
my blanket. Next morning my grandfather
poked me. Lucas, you come down.
Here's some money, here's some food.
Your dad and I taught you. When our people die, we leave
their houses. We put food and clothing.
And bedding in there their shrines and we replenish the
stuff from time to time. For the spirits to live happily

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in the other world. You go to those houses in the
reserve. You know where they are, that
the islands are trees in the fields.
You'll find them, and you know where a lot of them are.
You live there. And from now March until it gets
cold in October and you come into town, you let the police
pick you up and social services bring you in foster care, and

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you stay there until March. And you run away again and live
in the forest. That was his MO.
And after he told me all this and I noticed he was very feral,
how he walked especially at night and how he spoke soft and
wouldn't. Look at my eyes.
I knew he was with Sasquatch at for a time and I said, Lucas,
there's no way a young kid with those wild dogs, other animals

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out there, coyotes could ever live on their own.
Sitanga looked after you. I have lots to tell you Tom in
time, and he's been sharing it with me.
So we hear stories of humans in India and other countries, even
Australia, North America that went feral and were brought up

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seen running with the bingos in Australia or monkeys or wolves.
Well, that's still happening to a certain degree with Sasquatch.
We had a 16 year old kid playinggames in his basement of his
Trip mobile trailer in Campbell River.

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Mom said that bear must be back go scare it away.
So he walked down the porch. His dog was scared of the bear
wouldn't come out. Little imitation dog walked
across the lawn, opened the gateand went into the forest never
to be seen from a game and billboards and posters up in
Campbell River for years. You know, Has anyone seen this

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young boy who was 16 when he disappeared?
We had a friend of mine had an audio.
Recorder out about 30 miles fromwhere the kid disappeared at
time stamp 2:00 AM in the morning, out in the middle of
Timbuk, nowhere, logging, bandedlogging roads.
You could hear this crunching let me go, let me go, a boy's

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voice. So who knows, maybe it was a
lowly ghost out there. Maybe it was that young boy who
was taken by the Sasquatches. I don't know.
Maybe it was a kidnapper with a young boy.
I don't know. But we did pick up something.
And, you know, I always dwell onthe things that people don't
think about when it comes to Sasquatch, like seasonal

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migrations for heavy, abundant seasonal.
Foods everyone goes oh, the thing must be just eat deer.
I don't eat deer. I think it tastes nasty.
It's like sheep. You know, I'm a marine resource
eater, so, and beef. But you know, Sasquatch,
anything else is going to eat deer, especially where I'm at

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right now. They're down on the shellfish
beaches. There's snow on the ground right
now. They don't want to leave their
tracks. They're on the saltwater beaches
so that they don't leave tracks and they're harvesting seafood.
The elk are tight against the highway, some 5 to 10 miles from
where I'm at in Forks in Beaver and that area.
The elk are in the fields. The elk are in downtown Forks

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right now. Why is that hunting?
The season's over. They don't want to be in the
Bush. They're out in the open close to
the highways right in our downtown here because the
Sasquatches are hunting them. It's lean time.
There's snow on the ground. So you got to look equate things
in a different way. It's like when people ask me
10,000 dumb, dumb questions. Managingsasquatchlegend.com here

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in Forks, WA. Do you think there's more than
one? Give your head shake.
You got to have a female and a male and you have to have
genetic strengthening by having babies with non family members.
And if you look at the studying of the British Columbia coastal

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Indians. We use a factor of 10
kilometers. For every 10 kilometers of
shallow water, salmon, steelheadand abundant trout, river, Creek
or stream, there's a factor of 4sasquatches.
So the whole river here on the Olympic Peninsula in the
Bogushell are massively long rivers.
And I've rafted the whole and there's probably at least

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probably 15 to 20 miles of shallow water.
So there's 8 sasquatches based on the formula.
Just on the whole, if you look at all the rivers, creeks and
streams with abundant salmon, steelhead and trout on the
Olympic Peninsula, and you multiply it by 4, those rivers
and creeks and streams, you get 168 to 225 sasquatches just on

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the Olympic Peninsula, Washington state alone.
If you did that formula, which Ihaven't done, I'm probably
imagining you're going to crack well over 1500.
And then if you do that to everystate, province, territory, even
Mexico, and you're going to end up with probably a quarter
million. There's a lot of Sasquatches out

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there. They're proliferating after the
diseases, just like us indigenous people.
I was born in 1965 and in the census of 19/21 showed that the
Quakwakiwak nation didn't even #1200 individuals where we had
like 40,000 plus before contact and afterwards.

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So 85% of my people died of the diseases and the Haida nation,
95% of their people and some tribes are no longer in
existence, 100% gone because of disease.
So sasquatches were the same. But if you correlate the numbers
1967, Rodger Patterson comes outwith his film A Paddy, and since

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then the Quack Walkie Walk Nation since 65 has grown to I
think the number over 5 or 6000 now.
But that's indicative of every indigenous tribe in the
Americas. We're proliferating like Bunny
rabbits. So too is Sasquatch.
That's interesting. I asked my mom recently if

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they're because my mom is from Japan, she's Japanese and is
there stories in Japan about Bigfoot and she said yes.
They, they don't call it Bigfoot.
They call them white like like asnow abominable snowman
basically because they have white hair over there.
So I mean, and, and that's in, in Japan too.

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They have it. So I mean, it's all over the
world. My mom is from northern Sapporo,
so the Hokkaido Island northern.So they have.
I knew Indians up there as well.Yeah, I know.
Yeah. Yeah.
So that's all I I'm sure there'slegends and stuff there as well.
So yeah, if that's just America,that quarter of a million,

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imagine the the world. Oh, yeah, You know, look at
Australia. It's a vast country and they got
Yawi's, you know. Oh yeah.
Even here at the Olympic Peninsula, I say it's on like
Donkey Kong. I haven't been to a place yet
that is, I've been in Omaha Indian Reserve, but this place
here is just. I get weekly reports working in
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Now back to the show. Now that word's getting out.
Because of the modern day smoke Signal Facebook, I joined all of
the Kalalam County groups and the cities around here like Port

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Angeles and Squim. And then I'm sharing my
Sasquatch post from Sasquatch Island, my Facebook group on
those groups. All the locals are like, oh
Dang, that man knows a little bit or two about Sasquatch.
And as a retired trophy grizzly bear hunting guide, I can take

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his word. Just, you know, he's, he's got
some cred, you know, he's not just talking to talk, he's walk
the walk and still does. So I'm getting these old retired
loggers coming in here and telling me stories and
encounters and activity on theirproperties.
One guy's invited me some of thesnowy melts in the next couple
days with his rain. Peggy and my wife and I are
going to go to his property, big200 acre area where he's got a

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lot of activity. And he said, Oh yeah, bring all
your electronic stuff, put your trail cameras up and and then a
woman come in here the other couple weeks ago and she goes,
here's a picture. I took it yesterday.
Sasquatch walked on the trail. I walked this at the edge of
town here. And I seen that, seen their
tracks before, heard them, smelled them, heard their tree

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knocks. But then I saw it yesterday.
And then by the time I got my cell phone out, it was in the
BlackBerry and scrub bushes. But I listened to you on your
podcast telling people to take as many shots as you can, zoom
in, take many shots, pan slowly with your video on your cell
phone and then go analyze it on a big screen, laptop computer or

(42:19):
your flat screen. And lo and behold, hey, look
like she did this Sasquatch is looking at me.
It's a perfect face. Wow, that is incredible.
Like finding a Sasquatch isn't hard.
You got to play Bush chess, you know, You always stick your
finger up windage, use the wind to your advantage, break your

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silhouette. You're never going to see
Sasquatch like that. Very rare.
You're going to see them peekingat you like a sniper deep in the
Bush, like a sniper does in the build building, splayed against
a tree. So they're looking at you.
You're just thinking it's a tree, but you look closer.
Dang, that tree's got hair on it.
And a face. Oh shit, it's a Sasquatch

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splayed and looking at. Me.
You know, they have all kinds ofways.
Look up. Who walks through the forest and
looks up? No one.
They're looking at what they're going to trip on or slip on.
So when you're in the forest, stop, look around, look up a
bit. I'd be amazed what you can see.
You know, sometimes you'll see in the mainland, you'll see a
porcupine, squirrel nest, raccoon sleeping.

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And some people report you see aSasquatch up there sleeping away
like a porcupine. Oh my.
God, do you think that there's any connection between the
missing 411 cases and the Sasquatch?
Oh absolutely. Sasquatch is I belong to the
hamlet of society, human flesh eaters.

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My would have been my God back in the day is Bakbakwala nukes
away the cannibal from the NorthEnd of the world and we belong
to them. We do a very sacred, powerful
dance of initiation and it's a secret society to this day.
But yeah, the clock walk, you walk people and other tribes in

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the Pacific Northwest X practicecannibalism, but it was more
ceremonial, ritualistic, tied toa society.
But you can't all of a sudden have ceremonial ritualistic
cannibalism without having a basis, which is gascatory
cannibalism. You needed the human.
Food for sustenance. So when you look at the
archaeological record and the pollen records and the Ice Age

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history, you could see that living in coastal British
Columbia, my territories, you know.
I remember as a. Kid, I don't remember but I got
seen a picture when I was a kid,black and white, standing on ice
at saltwater and 2/3 the way up Knights Inlet in Glacier Bay.
The glacier came right down to the saltwater when I was a 2

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year old pup. Well, now you go there at some
8009 thousand feet up because that's how much the world is
warmed up in my lifetime. And other places the same thing.
But living in coastal British Columbia and elsewhere, you
know, 5-6 thousand years ago where we have stories about
Buck, Buck Oladuksuway living atthe edge of the north edge of

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the world where the ice fields began.
It's telling us like Rivers Inlet and other inlets still
were glaciated. And living in British Columbia
coastal region, based on archaeology and other things
I've analyzed and studied, it was like living in Barrow, AK
without electricity, running water or shelter and insulation.
It was very hostile. And yes, I think we had

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cannibalism taking place to survive if the fish didn't show
up. Shellfish didn't proliferate in
the Pacific Northwest until 6400years ago.
The pollen record shows the forests of softwood trees, cedar
and so forth didn't start to proliferate until 6600 years
ago. So we know our archaeological

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record goes back some 12,000, even 14,000 years.
So it was a hostile place to live.
So Sasquatch is when they're a. Husband and leader like Biggie.
Got a wife, got a daughter, got a sudden life's cool.
Go to rendezvous with the other Sasquatch clans where we hear
the mass vocalization being recorded from time to time.

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Another one came out today on onFacebook and TikTok of mass
vocalizations. That's clans coming together for
potlatch powwow rendezvous and roaring at each other.
I'm burger. I'm richer because everything
does that. And then you get your tear
structure in and who's going to speak first?
Go eat first at the elk carcass that was haunted and dragged in.

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There's a hierarchy. And so those Sasquatches are
happy, but then all of a sudden Bush code, a younger, stronger
male, will challenge clan leaderand topple them eventually, and
strengthening of the gene pool of species takes place.

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The ousted biggie? Leaves.
Busted up, torn up, never going to see my wife and kids again,
never going to sleep with my wife again.
I hate that young buck that comefrom the other side of the
mountain and did this to my arm.Now it's hard.
How am I going to eat? How am I going to bring down the
elk or a deer? I'm all buggered up.

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My shoulder is broken, my ribs are broken.
That was a bad fight. And then all of a sudden he's
starving, he's cold, he's thinking about his wife and
kids. And just like humans that snap
and go postal and do atrocities to their fellow humans with a
gun or a knife, that Sasquatch snaps and all of a sudden it

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kills a human hiker out there. Find their backpack, find their
walking stick, find their bear spray, but no hiker shoes still
there on the rock where they're sitting in the sun.
Well, Sasquatch, easy pickings. They like beans, like eating
human beings. And a human is the dumbest,
easiest animal to hunt if they don't have a gun.

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And, you know, look at all stupid hikers that are out there
with nothing and they disappear,missing 411.
Some end up being a steaming turd on the side of the forest
trail because that Sasquatch nowgoes, Gee, that was easy hunt.
My belly's full. I got enough meat there to do me
and a couple weeks later, oh, more humans better go give me

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another one. So they go rogue, and that's the
rogue Sasquatch. They've gone postal.
If snap. I know I was there.
I got so sick of humanity in night, a desert storm.
The next day I went to the Bush.And I didn't come out
permanently or for a long perioduntil 9 1/2 years later.

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And at times I was living like aSasquatch, eating like a
Sasquatch out of cigarettes, outof coffee for months.
But I'd pull a branch down like a Sasquatch and look at where
the helicopter had landed below me.
I'd walk down some 2-3 hours from the mountain and looking
through the branches, 'cause I'mso in tune with the Bush, my
nose. I can smell the peanut butter

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and Jelly sandwich. I can smell the coffee with
sugar and cream that that person's pouring from thermos.
I can smell that cigarette smokeor that one guy smoking it.
And as much as I wanted a cigarette and coffee and maybe
that guy's half of his roast beef sandwich, I just lifted up
the branch, did like a Sasquatch, turned and
disappeared into the forest. I didn't want to be around them.

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I knew that humanity had nothinggood for me at that stage of my
life. What good were those filthy,
rotten, hairless humans going togive me?
And that's how a Sasquatch thinks.
And that's why I have such a great understanding of them.
I've gone into the Bush for months, years at the time, you
know, I'd come out for partying,cashing checks and provisions

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and seeing family. But I get back in Bush as soon
as I could. And you know, and then when I
did get sued for $640,000 in 2007, and then eight months
later when the mother of my children, my common law wife,
pointed to the door and told me to get the beep out, I jumped on

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a ferry from Haida Guai. And I was working my way on the
ferry back to Vancouver Island. And I had one thing on my mind.
When I get back to Vancouver Island, I'm going to make some
money so I can put gas in this Jeep.
And I'm going to go hunt those two sobs that sued me.
And I am going to serve the dishof a revenge.

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Very cold and nasty. And then when I pulled in the
Campbell River, I was saved by asign on a motel placard.
Success is not defined and how high you reach, it's how high
you bounce when you hit rock bottom.
And those two sobs are still alive to this day.
And I'm still bouncing. And I almost snapped and went

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postal. So I know what it's like.
Being a rogue. Wow, that's incredible.
Wow. Are there any connections
between Sasquatch and other cryptids in indigenous folklore?
Like wendigos, things like that.Besides.
You know this, she. Said Wendigo.

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In Cree it's pronounced weetigo.So when I went to my mom a few
years ago, I said mom, what do you know about Wendigo?
What's wrong with you? Weetigo?
Say it properly. Yeah.
So she told me as much as she could and then I.
I asked her to reach out to her sisters and brother but they're

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so bloody contaminated with thatdamn Christianity.
I'm a Christian, but I don't shove a Bible down my throat
sideways and wash away my culture and heritage of
indigenous upbringing. But anyway, they wouldn't answer
anything, so I reached out to other people and then peace and
everything I could find to date about wheat ago.
The Wendigo. Horns of a deer, an elk on its

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head, stinky carrion type hide, emaciated, shriveled up body
hobbling with a stick sometimes cannibalizing.
That's the key. Cannibalizing.
So it tells us right there, a human because you can only have
a species eaten at species to get the term cannibal.

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So right there when you hear cannibal giant, like cannibal of
the Bush, cannibals of the mountains, cannibals of the
forest, translated from tribal Indian names, they're telling
you they're humans. That's why we call them
cannibals. And then you hear about weeks
ago. Well, I think it's a Sasquatch

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because they're big but skinny, ribs showing, greyish skin, no
teeth. Well, Sasquatches live over 100
years old in most cases and Sitanga keep her the medicine.
When I asked the medicine woman in my training in Omaha how old

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Sasquatch get 150 a 180 years old down here.
Some of them close to 200 that are white and Gray.
Oh, how'd they get too old? Take my mom turn smack.
What's wrong with you? You pay me money to teach you
shamanism from my tribe, and I teach you.
She's Donga, keeper of the medicine.
They've forgotten more about traditional remedies than we

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will ever know that. And she said that's why we don't
see them with big abscesses. I've seen grizzly bears with
their cheek jaw out there from abscessed teeth.
And I've killed them with big, ugly, nasty pusses and boils on
them. And she said that, you know,
some of them, they go alone. Some Sasquatches are like us,

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some are vagabonds, loners. They don't want to be around
people like I was for a time. Well, maybe they don't have the
medicine skills taught to them. And all of a sudden that
Sasquatch now is getting on in age.
Tapeworms and other worms are eating it from the inside out.
It's getting emaciated, ribs showing grey colored skin
because the liver is sick. Maybe it's got some cancer.

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It's got cataracts. It's got abscessed teeth and no
teeth, and it finds a carcass ofa deer.
It's cold, so it rips the hide off.
It's all stinky like carrion, and it's having trouble walking
because of all the arthritis andmaybe injuries.
So it's got a stick now, like a cane, but it wants to get at the
humans. But every time it comes hobbling
out, they all run screaming. That's a big Sasquatch.

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Oh, I know, just put that deer skull with the horns on my head,
tie it on. Now I'll go running out at them
and they'll get so scared. They just a week ago and it
freeze. Then I go up, snap their neck,
smash their skull, eat the brains that's the highest
concentration of protein, eat their tongue, eat their liver,
eat their heart. Now a dying Sasquatch, which was

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termed a week ago, has now got afull belly.
It's going to live a little bit longer.
Everything in the forest will fight tooth and nail to survive.
I know I've been there. And that's what I think a week
ago is. That is interesting, that is.
I'm the only one who's ever comeup with that like putting.
Two and two, adding it up and looking at all the i's dotted

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and T's crossing. The evidence is there when you
do the forensic analysis of the encounters of week ago and the
native Indian stories of their week ago.
Absolutely is. Is that like a rake?
Then same thing. I don't know.
I've got some guy in Forks who come and showed me.
He thinks he's got a rake. And he's seen it.

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And. Everything.
And I'm just like, dude, I've heard the term.
I don't know anything about rake.
I'm too Dang busy with Sasquatch.
That's too funny. Does any of the First Nation
tribes feel upset that you sharethese stories with people?
Do they prefer maybe to keep it all?
Of the tribes. And that's why I have permission
from the tribes to use their tribal names.

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And I have a lot of dear friendsand many tribes and family.
And, you know, I do know some tribes, they don't even speak
about Sasquatch, let alone the little people.
And. And then, you know, yeah, sure,
I get the crab syndrome Indians.You know, I've always been
attacked. You know, I was Tommy the tour
whore, the culture vulture. When I was doing Native cultural

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tours in my abandoned native village.
They were all collecting welfareand going to make work projects
because the commercial fishing and the logging collapsed on us.
Instead of being a welfare recipient or begging through the
government for handouts, I was in my abandoned native village,
which I have every right to do, and I got chief and counsel's
permission. And I was sharing my family's

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stories and our culture because I'm a historian, I study
culture. And the people that condemned
me, they didn't pass grade 9. You know, I've got grade 12 and
some university and College in me.
Plus I've always still taught me10,000 questions.
When the Internet came out and my mind exploded.
I'm just like, Oh my God, all this knowledge.
I just got to search and I can learn by reading and watching.

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So to me, I got no use for the crab syndrome.
India. Oh, from time to time I'm always
hitting their claws when they reach out at me.
And I call it stonewalls. When if someone stonewalls you,
you dig a hole and go underneaththe wall to get past it.
You go around it, you go over it.

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But from time to time I'll go physical and I'll hit that wall
so bloody hard to shrapnel fliesto other crab syndrome Indians
and they feel the sting of the shrapnel.
So in other words, I'll go fishermen res Indian on someone
when they get lippy with me and.I.
Just make sure there's no surveillance cameras so that
when they do, sit there and gossip and backstab about me.

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Did you hear about Tommy? Yeah, I saw his arm.
He had a big chunk of meat out of his right arm.
Tommy was apparently jumping so high up he was hitting his head
on the galley of the roof and the boat and slamming his head
on the table. And then he so and so bit, Tom
says. I still got the scar right.
There. Oh my gosh.
So I said, you want to bite, I'ma homage, so I'll show you how

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to bite. And I tore a big chunk out of
him, spit it in his face. So now the chatter, chatter,
chatter's out there. Don't crab syndrome, Tom
Siewood, because he used to huntgrizzly bears for a living.
And if he wants, he'll hunt you and he'll make your life
miserable. He'll go rogue on your butt.
And that's what we need to do. Because back in the day in North

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America, I can't speak for the Hawaiians, but I imagine it was
the same way I was brought up, commercial fishing, seaweed
picking, clam digging, logging camps, commercial fish boats.
It was no. Oh, Tommy, you did a mistake.
Come here. We're going to have a little
discussion about this. And the next time you do this,
we're going to write you up and we might send you for counseling

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where we'll put the eagle feather on the floor and hold
hands and I'll go and we'll resolve your issues.
No, I never was brought up like I was brought up with bang kick
in the back end. What's wrong with you?
You beep, beep, beep. You stunned.
Beep, beep, beep. You do that mistake again.
You cost us thousands of dollarsof fishing gear.
Why don't you be doing stupiditylike that?

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That's how you get through to them.
Because that's how the North American Indians once were.
That's why I always teach peoplethat we're not like the Maris.
We will never, as North Americanindigenous, win a Oscar.
Award for a movie called Once WeWere Warriors.
We have always been warriors. You always be a warrior.

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You teach your children to be warriors and you teach the weak
to be warriors because we are never going to win on Oscar for
some documentary or movie calledOnce We Were Warriors.
There is no once when you're indigenous, you got to be like a
Sasquatch and that's how they live.
They have laws, very strict laws.
We'll find a crib toy out in theforest in Omaha Indian Reserve,

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3 miles from any road or house. We'll find a.
Plastic car in the middle of theforest, Vancouver Island, some
15 miles from any community and other reports of that.
But what it is, is the Sasquatches are coming into our
urban edge. So Mom's got young Sasquatch,

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OK? Yeah.
They're snoring and farting up in their bedroom.
They're sleeping. Let's go to the compost
Sasquatch. I tracked in the snow one time.
Went to 12 Compost along a railway line at the edge of a
city or a town. Can you imagine a Sasquatch
going to a compost and lifting the lid and there's a half a

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soft cantaloupe, potato peelings, bones, the list goes
on. Hit ten of them.
It's like us going to an Indian casino and going to buffet.
It's on. Look at all this good food
diversity. So sasquatches are coming in for
those. Our greenhouses, our fruit and
veg in the gardens, pet and livestock food outbuildings like

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here with Game and Fish, you know, and the Sasquatches are
going in there and eating. So all of a sudden they're
eating away and the little kid Sasquatch looks down and grabs a
crib toy. Spin, spin, spin, squeak,
squeak, squeak, Jingle, Jingle, Jingle with the bell.
Look at all the colors. Oh, I'll take this.
Get 3 miles into the forest withmum.
Mum's being a spoiling her child, which isn't right, and

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all of a sudden a male Sasquatchcomes by, or an older female
head of that young juvenile Sasquatch.
Drop that. You know the laws.
We don't take anything of the hairless bipedals.
You shouldn't have picked that up.
You leave that air until you ever touch it again, until some
mushroom picker comes across it who's human and goes.

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How the hell did the crypt toy get out here?
I better bring it to Lucas and tell him.
And so that's the kind of how I dwell deep.
I've jumped off the abyss of Sasquatch.
I'm in that deep, deep depths with what I investigate on and
research. That's the only time I'll use
the R word when I'm interacting.Having my Diane Fossey Jane

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Goodall moment with a hairy, bipedal human hairless 1.
Then I'm researching because I'm.
Eyeball to eyeballing and I'm finding out amazing things about
Sasquatch. That's incredible that they also
have. Rules.
Oh, they have rules. Well, this how Lucas start his
conversations when I first met him and ask him a question.

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They have laws, very strict laws, Tom.
The satonga have very strict laws.
Then you'll chatter, chatter, chatter like a Sasquatch
teaching me stuff. And then you'll end it by going
they have laws, very strict laws, Tom.
So then the next question. Oh, they have.
Song dance, I see the young onessometimes bouncing around but

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hear them humming, especially the females and it seems more
and now you got to remember that's region specific.
So for the Omaha territories, hesays it's the males are almost
like they don't not allowed to sing and hum, but the females
do, especially when they're harvesting.

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And do they have religion? I wouldn't call it that.
You'd say they have understanding.
They understand that in order tostay healthy and to be on
balance and harmony with the environment, you should only
drink water at the spring. So their reserve has a lot of

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springs and where there's a spring you will find sitonga,
bedding areas and so forth. And even though you got the
Missouri River going all the waythrough, the eastern edge of the
Omaha Indian Reserve asked them,do they drink out of the
Missouri? Only if it's really hot and
needed, they'll walk the distance to get to a spring.

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And that's harmony and balance with nature.
Yes, wow, that's incredible. Well, Tom, before we wrap up, I
just want to say that I've seen your artwork and it's absolutely
beautiful. I love it.
I love the way you bring out theindigenous story, the tradition
of life through your pieces. It's truly incredible.

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Your work doesn't just visually such as visually powerful.
I think it carries so much history and meaning.
So it's it's really amazing thatyou use your talents to preserve
and share your culture. So for those that are listening,
where can they find you and yourartwork?
So as my shirt says, I'm Sasquatch island.

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So Facebook website sasquatchisland.com YouTube
channel Sasquatch island TikTok.Me and Biggie do TikTok,
Sasquatch Island, and then once you get to the website, you'll
see my name, Tom Seawood, ThomasSeawood.
Google it and you know you'll have one door open and skeletons
will fall out. Court queso is that whatever

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didn't get a criminal record? And the other one is we're at
sasquatchthelegend.com store in Forks, WA.
They brought me in as the manager trial basis.
I liked it so much. I'm going to be here for five
years till I get my retirement and they've allowed me to stay
at the company house 2 blocks away, got a vehicle to use for

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the company. I get paid a wage, royalties on
the art I create and we have like 8 or 9 of my designs on
T-shirts, tumblers which are like thermos cups for coffee and
cold beverages, mugs like that one.
Beautiful. Coffee mugs, 15 oz Shower

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curtains, bath mats, ornaments, stickers, embroidered patches,
the list goes on. The one thing I will not do?
If it's a container or a vessel that's used for alcohol, like
shot glasses. I sublimate them all day long at
work. But I will never put one of my
native designs on a shot glass or a beer mug.

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Respect. And that's what my art's all
about. I'm honoring my culture, yes,
but I'm showing people through my art that sasquatches are
human too. They like fish.
That's why he's got a salmon in his hand walking along the
Creek. The newest design is Sasquatch
carrying two big snook salmon that are like 4 feet long each

(01:06:52):
and it's a orange fall. Scene.
And then I've did a drum recently of a shellfish digging,
Sasquatch harvesting on the beach at low tide with a full
moon at night. And that's a winter 1.
So eventually I will be looking at 2026.
I'll have a calendar of all my native designs and then of

(01:07:13):
course, on other T-shirts, you know, and the best way for
everyone is go to sasquatchthelegend.com and go to
featured artist on the homepage.It's building more and more, but
you order stuff through there with your card.
And then when I come to work in the morning, I'll look at
e-mail, I'll pick it out and I'll package it for you, wrap

(01:07:35):
it, put some stickers in there. Sasquatch related.
We got a lot of Twilight stuff too, but mainly Sasquatch.
But I'll put Sasquatch stickers in there.
And then my Sasquatch stickers, Sasquatch Lives Matter will be
in there with my contact information.
And I tell people, you know, youcan even buy my book.
I'll mail it to you. It's autographed.
And don't be afraid you're goingto have my cell number in there

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home in the evening. And if you just want to talk to
me about your encounter or get some understanding on Sasquatch
in your backyard, I'll be happy to help you.
Because my job is with everything in social media,
website, movies, everything I'm doing.
It's all about helping one better their chance and
understanding to have a close encounter of the hairy kind with

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tuna. Sasquatch.
I would love to see Sasquatch from a distance.
Not not close, just from a distance.
I would love to one time in my life.
I've put 22 people on sasquatches so far.
I do expeditions. Up.
In British Columbia, Vancouver Island and here in Olympic
Peninsula. Fleurs night vision stuff.

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Parabolic listening devices, P-1000 Nikon with big telephoto
lens, binoculars, trail cameras.We even have thumpers.
Stick them in the ground and if something walks by, an alarm
goes off in our FM frequencies on our radio.
Wow, that's incredible. That sounds actually like a lot
of fun. Oh yeah, you better come out

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here. Yes, yes, for sure.
Well, thank you again for your time and sharing your knowledge
with us today. I truly appreciate it and I hope
you can come back to share aboutyour little people, those
stories. Just like Hawaii, we do have the
many hoonies, which is there, our little people there.
Oh absolutely, anytime but my language to all listeners and

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you aloculus la go in peace. And that brings us to an end of
another episode. I want to give a huge mahalo to
my special guest Tom Seawood forsharing his time, wisdom and
incredible stories. With us.
It's always fascinating to hear these perspectives and I truly

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appreciate the knowledge he brought to the conversation.
And guys, don't forget to follow, subscribe, and leave a
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The more we spread these conversations, the more we open

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minds and challenge the narrative we've been given.
Until the next time guys, stay open minded and keep questioning
everything. If we hold Kako, bye.

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