Episode 122. Gary Wayne Breaks Down: Genesis 14 War, Egypt’s Fear of Anakim, The 1,000-Year Reign & The Firmament

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Hybrids were 7 to 9 feet tall counts out of the north and
Mesopotamia would call them the Shamal or the Amal would lived
amongst the giants in the covenant land.
So we have this these data points for this smaller form of
giant, and they fit every one ofthose as you include them in
where these tribes are living. Of the 9 patriarchalist ones,

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these are all hybrid giants. So we have hybrids that are
involved. And it's part of this greater
geopolitical alliance or set of alliances that is in the
covenant land. So you have the Eastern alliance
and that Eastern alliance is going to show up in the time of
the flood. And that's.

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The first battle. That Moses and Joshua are going
to go up on the east side of theGeorge River to fight.

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Aloha and welcome back to another show.
Guys. It's so good to be back home.
I've been traveling for the pastthree weeks and honestly, I'm
excited to be back here, settledback in the studio bringing you
another mind blowing episode. And trust me, you're going to
love today's guest, Gary Wayne. You already know that he is a

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brilliant mind when it comes to biblical mysteries.
He is the best selling author ofGenesis 6 Conspiracy and Genesis
6 Conspiracy Part 2. If you've heard him before, you
know his work goes deep, uncovering connections between
the Nephilim, fallen angels, secret society, and the end time

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bloodlines. Today we're diving into some
seriously fascinating topics. Genesis 14, War of Giants, the
fear of the Anakin in Egyptian texts, the mysteries of the
firmament, and the significance of the 1000 year reign.
Gary always leaves us with so much to think about.
Every conversation with him takes us deeper into truths and

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Plus, I'm sure Gary has some surprises for us as he always
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Now without further ado, let's welcome our guest today, Gary

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Wayne to the show. Well, Aloha and welcome back to
the show, Gary. It's always a pleasure having
you on. The last time we spoke, you
mentioned you were scaling back on interviews to focus on
writing book #3 but from what I see, you're still very much in
the spotlight. And I.

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Believe yeah. So not quite worked out to the
game plan, but two things kind of happened.
Was is as as I was thinking about trying to do that I had
finally an offer come along thatseemed to be serious and would

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make some sense to do the auto audible versions of book 1.
And two, I got your book. Yes, I got. #2 So it's one thing
to say, yes, let's do that, but then you have the obligations.
So you have to listen to it all and changes if you want, but if
you do too many changes then it just it's really hard to edit

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and do properly. So, but you still have to go
through the process and then youhave two different launch dates
because they each take a couple of months to do on the producing
side. And then you have to do shows to
promote the launch of those boththose books.
So Needless to say, starting book 3, which I, I'm 10 chapters

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into, but I've been 10 chapters into it since almost about this
time last year. So, so I am tweaking it back.
It's not like 7 or more shows a week now.
It's now down to 3:00 to 5:00. And then I want to get back down
to about maybe 3 a week so that I can do proper research, proper

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writing, stay caught up on the e-mail, stay caught up on the
social media. You know, actually devote
something to the private life. Yes, exactly.
Your wife is poor thing. Yeah.
So it's time to get that under control.
But, and all of it has got me not in a big rush to get book
three out because it just startsthe whole cycle forward, but.

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Well. I stay busy, no doubt about.
It absolutely. And the listeners, I tell you,
clearly love you, and they just can't get enough of your
insights. So that says a lot.
And I believe that's by doing that, it keeps you #1 your book
#1 like, steady, because you're always out there talking about

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it. Yeah, so you know, book one came
out about 10 years ago now. Wow.
And it sells more books than it did the year before.
Every year we'll see what happens.
But, you know, halfway through the year it was on track to be
again, the best year. And then the book 2 is, you
know, was released last year. So they're both written to be

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not timeless, but not to sort ofgo dusty on the shelf because
it's it's they're meant to be relevant throughout this
generations, though, And and we'll see whether there's
another generation after that, but whether or not they read
books if depending on what happens.
But so that that's kind of a good thing, but you still.

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You still have to keep it. Ever sort of present, if you
can, in terms of understanding the marketplace that there's
like 30 to 40,000 books that come out every three months?
Oh my. Yeah.
So if you want to breakthrough that noise in that crowded
space, you have to do something to have people at least looking

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on the sites for your book, whether it's Amazon or my
websites and stuff like that. So there's always going to be
that. Otherwise you're just going to
get crowded out just because of how many books that are are
coming out. But what is surprising to me
though, and nice, although it's still not mainstream, the things
that I talk about, it's way moremainstream so to speak, than it

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was 10 years ago. And I think I've managed to
change the conversation to a certain degree on a lot of
areas. You sure do.
And that what the common denominator is, is not just
saying sort of interesting things or being controversial,
or it's what's satisfying for meis hearing people say things
make sense now and you're providing answers I can't get

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anywhere else. And the other thing I get along
with it is whether I agree with you or not is you are consistent
in what you say. It's not ever changing with the
latest newspaper headline or whatever and you back it up.
So that is good as well because to breakthrough all of the

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different manipulations of Scripture, interpretations of
Scripture, sort of skewed looks in terms of what you would like
it to be versus what it actuallyis and all the other things that
go in it. It's very confusing.
Once people get into this area and say, well, who do I believe,
who do I trust, and how do I know how to put this together?

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That's going to make some sense.And why does this person or this
approach vary from this other one and they can't all be right
or are they all wrong? I mean, it's all that stuff
that's going on in everybody's heads and the churches aren't
providing the clarity, so they're adding to the confusion
and. Yeah.
And, you know, so, but there's also still a lot of stiff

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resistance, which is good because I try and turn somebody
who opposes what I say into an opportunity to say, well, let me
talk about it with you or on your show or whatever, and let
the let the listeners decide. Yeah, if I'm clearly a hoaxster,
you're going to be able to flushthat out pretty quickly.

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But I'm thinking that you're going to be surprised at the
things I'm going to say. And I think you're going to
realize that a lot of the thingsthat I I will say will make a
lot of sense. Whether or not you want to
accept that or do anything with it, that's your choice.
But I'll present an argument in a way that isn't somebody that's
evil, isn't somebody that is a lunatic.

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It'll be logical and something to consider.
And that's the tough things thatthe opponents struggle with is,
is that I'm not here to I'm not here to convert anybody.
Would I like you to become a Christian?
Sure. You know, if I'm speaking to a
non Christian, but I'm hoping that you're gonna like what I
say to a certain degree and you're gonna dig into this topic

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and that's going to include the Bible.
And just maybe that's gonna leadyou to look at Christianity a
little bit closer. So I need to be able to role
model and talk logically as to why you should consider this and
even Christians within the church, because there are way
more Christians who adamantly disagree with my positions on
everything from prophecy to prehistory and everything in

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between but what I want the Christians to understand.
Is is it's it's OK to disagree? You just need to do it
respectfully. And the thing I'm going to
provide for you is when I'm speculating, I'll tell you I'm
speculating. And when it's clearly I can back
it up, which I do most of the time with what I say because

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it's not about me. It's about what it says.
The Bible says is that you can'tcome back or you won't be able
to come back and say, well, he didn't make a good biblical case
because I will. Whether or not you want to
contend with that or not, that'sup to you.
Can I challenge you to contend with it?
And if you can disprove it, fine.

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And then we can talk some more. Yes, I agree.
Yeah, I think you do a wonderfuljob doing that and connecting
all the dots together. Even for some someone like my
mother who is not a Christian, but she considers you with, like
I said, she doesn't speak very well English.
So she says, oh, you're talking to the giant guy, right?
Yes, yes, I'm talking to the guythat talks about Giant Sokasan.

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And now she'll like she'll she'll look at stories and
things differently. She'll say, oh, they talked
about giants here. They found giants over here.
And it's like, yeah, so she's she's starting to connect the
dots as well. Like there are things like that
out there. That may seem.

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Odd, you know, to normal people.But now she's thinking about it.
Which? Is and when you you're starting
to be more not just open, but the ability to recognize what's
being talked about and how that sort of interconnects and that
this is a multicultural global phenomena and we understand it

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through different lenses culturally and religiously, but
that doesn't mean it's a different story.
Right. Exactly.
Well, I want to start with something that doesn't get
talked about enough, I think. But you talk about it, the
Genesis 14, War of Giants. Yeah.

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It's not a, like I said, it's not a topic that's covered
widely, I don't think. But you do write about it in
your books, and it seems to holda key place in biblical history.
Can you break that down, maybe what this war was, who was
involved and why it's so significant?
Yeah, it's one of those passagesthat come early in the in in the

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Bible. And it's one of the most
significant geopolitical events to take place, one of the
greatest wars to ever take placethat would have a lasting effect
for generations and generations and generations.
And it comes at the time when Abraham has just left

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Mesopotamia and it has settled in the land of the giants.
And so most people look at this passage in a rather odd way, and
there's lots of different names for it.
You know the bet, You know, I think 1 is the Battle of the
Salt Sea or 4 Kings against five.
But you know, what I try and do is I try and say, is this a

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human army from the east coming to war against giants in the
covenant land? Are they both humans or are they
both giants? And the details sort of speak
for themselves once you get intothe details.
So and then it has some biblicalcontradictions in it if you come

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from a standard dogma. And one of those contradictions
is you have the Amalekites show up in Genesis 14.
That's one of the tribes and nations within the covenant
land. That is, it's like an Oopart in
archaeology, an out of place artifact.

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This is an out of place people. Do we get a patriarch for the
Amalekites? We do.
And it's just as obscure and important to understand, and
it's outside the table of nations.
And if people aren't familiar with the table of nations,
that's in Genesis 10, biblicallyin First Chronicles, and it
details all of the 70 nations that come from the descendants

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of Noah. And there aren't any giant
patriarchs in there, OK. And that's a key to
understanding who some of these.Tribes are that we're also going
to be talking about because theycome from Raphaim patriarchs,
right? Giant patriarchs.
So, but the Amalekites really sort of underlines it.
So I talk about them in both books.

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And I, I talk about them a lot because they're also the ones
that are going to swear the oathto wipe Israel from the face of
the earth. So the accounting of the
Amalekites comes in Genesis 36 with Eliphaz, son of Esau,
brother to Jacob, who lost his blessing, his birthright, and

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the messianic promise to, to Jacob, who has his name changed
to Israel. So an axe to grind and
descendants would have an axe togrind.
And So what Eliphaz does is son of Esau and obviously a pure
royal Abrahamic bloodlines, right?
So he's going to marry a female named Timna, and they're going

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to be part of the Dukes of Edom,and they're going to produce an
offspring named Amalac. And so people say, well, that's
the patriarch for them. The problem is, that's Genesis
36. And Genesis 14 is a couple 100
years before in several generations.
So how can you have those peoplealready there?
And how does he come about to benamed Amalek?

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Well, he's named eponymously after a tribe of giants who
lived in the Petra region where the Amalekites are going to move
to live amongst. And so now you have this
offspring. And we haven't been explained
who Tina is. Well, Tina is the daughter of
Sere, one of the original Dukes of Seer, who's a Whorim giant.

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Well, who are the Whorim? Well, they're described in
Deuteronomy 2 as giants. And are the Whorim in this
battle in the time of the the Giant Wars?
Absolutely. In Genesis 14.
So now we get another place tribe.
That can't go back to the standard dogma.
So you're you're faced with the Bible is in contradiction or

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there's been changes to the Bible to rewrite it, which is
just as bad because now you can't trust anything if you
except that as as the premise, which is usually why people will
use these interesting things that Christians don't understand
because we've not been taught properly and use that to wedge
faith issues within Christianity.

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So. So Amalac is a tribe of giants
that are part of the aboriginal giants that show up before the
flood. And so you have tribes not only
like the Malachim and the Whoring that are in this war,
but you also have the Raphaim tribe.
So that's the first time we see the tribe of Raphaim in Mount in

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the Mount Hermon Bashan region where they're dwelling, and
Ashtaroth Karnayam, which is Ashtaroth, the parent mother
goddess before the flood. And the two bowls of the bowl
cult with the sun disc that would sit in it.
And the two main cities in the Ugaritic text of the Raphaim and
the Giants and the Baleem Council and the Ellen Council

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before the flood, where. It was at Mount Hermon and those
were the 2 royal cities. So now we have Raphaim, which is
a word for giant and described as a tribe of giants at Mount
Hermon. And what's even more
interesting, in Genesis 15 after.
The war, you have Abraham being awarded the land from the Nile

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to the Euphrates, from Mount Hermon to the Sea of Aqaba,
Indian Ocean, Red Sea, all of those southern sort of bodies of
water, which is the same land that was Eden was located in
before. So it's God's land, right?
Things start to make make some sense.
What's going on with Abraham inheriting this and that.

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You have the Raphaim that are listed in the Mighty Seven
Nations that also has another tribe of giants that's not
listed. There is the As for a patriarch,
which are the Parazine, they do not have a patriarch.
You have Hivites, but those are this is going to be likely be

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the HIVIM, which is a sister branch of the horem and the
HIVIM as Lotan is called both a horem and a hiving HIVIM in
Genesis 36. It's not that that's inaccurate.
He's probably a hiving HIVIM in Edom amongst the Horem and it's
just a branch of of the three major tribes of these giant

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peoples. And in the Hivim are generally
in the central region and a few more up in the northern region.
And it's the Hurim which are going to be the ones in the
northern region. And so in Genesis 36, when you
look at the cities there this this hurim, Hivim Hurim.
And these are the Hurrians. When we talk about the Hurim,

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they alternate. Capital cities, depending on the
king that's ruling between Edom and Syria.
So it's a fairly large empire. So you have all of these sort of
tribes that are in there. And then you also have other
tribes that are listed in there.I won't go through all of them.
And that's that's the covenant land ones.

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And then we have like Amorites that are listed, and Amorites,
they are in the table of nations, but they're one of nine
tribes that doesn't have a patriarch listed.
They're patriarch lists as I've named them.

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And that's very, very odd. Like why, you know, and of the
12 Canaanite tribes, 3 patriarchs are listed, Canaan,
Cath and Sidon. And then you have Amorites and
then you have Jebusites and thenyou have Arc bites and all the
ones that that are listed. And so why wouldn't they have a
patriarch? We have the name of the tribe.

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Why wouldn't we have the patriarch if they're from the
Canaanite descendants? We have patriarchs for, you
know, extended generations from the other sons of Ham.
Why wouldn't we have that? Well, one of the things that I
mentioned earlier is, is Raphaimpatriarchs are not listed in the
table of nations, which is why you have Genesis 36 to explain a

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little bit more of this information.
And so how do we know that? Well, we talked about the
Raphaim, which is a tribe listedin Genesis. 14 listed in Genesis
15, it's the word most commonly used for giant in Hebrew and for
post alluvian giants. And they're a full tribe.

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And they're not accounted for very early, for very early after
the flood. And so that's the Hebrew word
Rafa in the singular. And most of these names, like
for Hori, it's hori, for him it's heavy.
They're in the singular, not in the plural.

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But you put the I am male plural.
Which is an international understanding in the ancient
world as a majestic bloodline from the gods.
You get the Raphaim. So Rapha would be the the
patriarch, but he's he doesn't show up in the table of nations
on everybody says well. Do you really have somebody that

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you can go to Rapha that you could be proved as as a giant?
Well, you have the word for the tribe, but do we have the
patriarch? Not necessarily.
But we do have the House of BethRafa, right?
The House of Rafa that's up in that region that extends on for

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hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years and even into
the time of the monarchy. So we have the House of Rafa.
And that's biblically listed andI and I cover that often in Book
2, but. For the naysayers, you need
something a little bit more thanthat, right?
So there's another tribe called the Anakin, and probably the

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most commonly. Mentioned tribe in the Old
Testament and in the book of Joshua the patriarch is listed
as Arba, meaning 4. So could be four brothers.
Well, however you want to interpret 4, right?
Four sons? Who knows why you got 4?
Could be fourth born from a specific fallen angels lots of

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reasons we're not told why but his name is Arba and his home
city was Kiriath Arba that we recognize is Hebron so Kiriath
is the city of Arba and that's obviously where the.
Anakin, Giant Anakin, Giant Kings are are registered in

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Numbers 13 where the scouts go in and they're classified as as
Anakim giants. We know Anakim or Raphaim versus
Nephilim because in Deuteronomy 2 we get that information again,
calling them giants, Hebrew Rapha.
So Arba isn't listed in the table of nations.

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So now we have a pattern and we have a pattern of the names that
are going to become the patriarchal.
Or that tribe in the eponymouslynamed thereafter.
So Amorites in the have it's spelled EMORIY.
And I won't go through all the 9tribes.

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I just want to make sure people know that there's a biblical
sound basis for this and it's MRA.
And of course you don't have a patriarch for MRA or Amorite,
but E is a bit of a transliteration of and you see

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other spellings that would be more appropriately done with an
A as in Amur or Mr. to speak andlots of Hebrew words like that
and AM for a people. And so as we look at that word
we have in the Balin Council of Gods in the Ugaritic text that
lists Baal and and that. And.

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Other gods is a God named Amuru or Amur.
It's listed both ways, and Amur had offspring giants named
accordingly. So now you have that Amuru or
Amur, and the singular expression in the Hebrew would

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be Emory and phonetically and etymologically King Hamor with a
of the Hivim in the middle of the covenant land, that would be
etymologically linked back to Emory and Amour as well.

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It's just spelled and transliterated differently.
But the Hebrew is is is pretty much the same.
And so now we have a fallen Angel who creates a giant of a
similar name, and he's going to intermarry with Canaanites.
To produce hybrid giants like the Amalekites that are being

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created in Genesis 36 through Eliphaz and Teamna.
They're going to be giant like, but not as tall.
And so the Egyptian execration texts and a couple other sources
out of Egypt call them the Shazzoo.
That live amongst the Ionique, depending on how you want to

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translate that which is the Anakim giants, right.
So now we're seeing this connection and so hybrids were 7
to 9 feet tall counts out of thenorth and Mesopotamia would call
them the Shamau or the Amao who lived amongst the giants in the
covenant land. So we have this these data

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points for this smaller form of giant, and they fit every one of
those as you include them in where these tribes are living.
Of the 9 patriarchalist ones, these are all hybrid giants.
So we have hybrids that are involved.
And it's part of this greater geopolitical alliance or set of

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alliances that is in the covenant land.
So you have the Eastern allianceand that Eastern alliance is
going to show up in the time of the flood.
And that's the first battle thatMoses and Joshua are going to go
up on the east side of the Jordan River to fight King Sehan

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and King Ogg, both Rafael giantswith the mightiest of the of the
of the city. States and they built these tall
city state. Pentapolis, so five major cities
with villages that are walled orunwalled, depending on where
you're talking about within thatregion.

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And it's a military strategy of defense and offense.
And they're going to build thesecities, I think after what
happens in the giant wars in Genesis 14 as as a direct
result. And we'll get into that in in a
second. So Aug had 60 cities, well,

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Metapolis military units workingunderneath of them.
And it's harder to get Sehan's number and it's easier with Ox
because we actually get the number.
But if you count the cities listed in the Bible, I get about
35, and I'm open to 40 cities, and maybe there was 50.

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I mean, they're just not, we don't get the exact number, but
he had a huge empire as well. So as we now look at that as the
Eastern Alliance, look in the southern part of the Covenant
land and you're going to have the Amalekim giants that we
talked about. In the Petra region you have the
Whorim giants and some intermixing of Hivim and Avim

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giants also listed in Deuteronomy too.
That are more closer to the Gazaregion and only get sort of
pushed out and there be Anakin down there as well.
And the Philistines will push some of those out and then
absorb them into their confederacy in about 1550 BC.
So just before the exodus startsto come about.

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And so they're already there anda very powerful alliance of
hybrids coming from Crete, giants coming from Crete and
other giants that are part of their five city, Pentapolis.
It's a standard sort of number that's used in the military
alliances. So that's the Southern alliance.
And then you have a Northern Alliance that I'll talk about in

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the wars that's not going to be part of this war.
So there's a treaty or somethinggoing on that's that's separate.
So you have the Southern Alliance and the Eastern
Alliance, and then you have the Hevim and Anakim that are also
part of the Central Alliance. And they're all separate

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alliances, but they're working together for the most part.
So within that alliance, you have these hybrid nations living
like the Amorites and the Canaanites, and they're going to
be occupying the five city statealliance of Sodom, Gomorrah, and
the three other cities of the plain.
And what they're going to do is they're going to break a vassal

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agreement that was imposed on them by the UR, the third
dynasty or before, and they would pay a tax.
On that, but they say we're not going to pay anymore.
So all of these cities that are being ruled by Canaanites and
Amorites, they're being ruled over by giants.
They have control of all of the monarchies and the top two

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classes. And you're also going to have a
mix of the of the hybrid giants in there as well, like the
Amorite. So they'll be intermixing in
that population. And whether or not there's many
pureblood humans by this point in time, we don't know, but I
would assume there's probably some of them at this point as
well. So what happens is if we

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understand in the land of the covenant, the Hamites are going
to go and sell, settle, and these are the sons of Ham and
that's not their land. They ought not to be there.
They're part of the inheritance that's allotted to Ham in
Africa. So Cush Ham, they should be over
in Africa. But Canaan is going to suffer

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the curse of what Ham did to Noah and he's going to be in
bondage as we get into that. So he's he moves into the
covenant land because he feels like my other siblings don't get
this curse. I didn't 'cause this curse, but
I don't want I'm I'm I'm adding kind of ad libbing some of the
arguments here. So what I'm going to do is I'm

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going to intermarry amongst the giants and I'm going to throw
off this. Curse.
So I'm not going to be a slave nation.
And in return they get protection from these giants.
So the Mesopotamia alliance of the UR, the third dynasty is the
same and within say 200 years ofGilgamesh ruling there and his

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father Luga Banda, which are giants, and the Olamim giants
and the sons of the East, the Ben Kadeem Ben or BN in the
original Semitic in listed in the Ugaritic text QDM.
So these are the son of we'll just say Kadeem, just because

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there's no other letters in there.
And there's other tribes of the East as wells, but these are
giant tribes according to the Ugaritic texts.
And this is the Hebrew that has vowels that we get translator it
transliterated with for the Cadmanym or Cadmanites as
they're listed in the Bible and they don't have a patriarch.

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And they're part of the land that is listed in Genesis 15
where the Raphaim and the Perazeme tribe is listed in the
Hibium tribe. And that they are listed as what
I would call the Mighty 10 that are occupying some of this land.
And you have the Kenezeem and you have the Keneem and the

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Cadmoneem. You would know them as Kinites
and Kenezites and the Cadmonites.
And I use an IM plural for the giants and for the hybrids ites
and for humans Ites just to keepit straight.
And those are kind of used not consistently in the Old

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Testament. So you might have Anakite and
Anakin. Now, whether or not they're
referring at times to the hybrids or to the purebreds, you
could make that case, except thetranslators weren't that
consistent. So they were inconsistent in
their in their approach. And so it's hard to distinguish
between the hybrids and the giants.
And maybe that's the purpose, because why not just pick one?

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Because again, you don't get ITEin in Hebrew and the singular
would be IY in the in most of those patriarchs and as A and
the plural would have, you know,IYM for the for the plurals and
raphaim or gibberine and all thedifferent sort of plurals for

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that. So it it doesn't help us in
sorting this out. But these are unaccounted for
tribes that are accounted for asgiants and from the East, and
the meaning goes ancient from the east.
These are aboriginal tribes. And so giant tribes show up
after the flood and before the Babel account.

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And they're the people that the people when they are spread out
from Babel will go and live amongst.
And some of them will take take on some of the giant names.
So, you know, historians like Sais and Smith in Sumerian

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history say that some of the Semites who settled in there
intermarried with some Indo Aryan people by the name of what
we would know as Elam. And that's the name of one of
the sons of the Shamites. But they said there's two
different peoples, there's and there's an aboriginal race and

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these are Indo Aryans. These are the.
Giants and so olam is the same as Elam they're cognate words
and can be interchanged and it means ancient aboriginal from
before old from old time. So they're either survivors from
the flood or they're produced shortly after the flood.

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And these are the Olam Eem, another race that we can't take
back to the table of nations except we get through Elam,
except that we can't make sense of that historically on where
that name comes from. And who are these other?
People. So it seems common that as
people migrated from Babel, manyof them would have taken names

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of the giants, like Magog, whichis an offspring of the fallen
Angel Iopedus before the flood. So Magog is a common name both
before and after the flood for giants.
Just sort of one kind of example.
And so when we look at these Eastern giants, there's an

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alliance of them and they're represented by the four kings.
Two of them are working together.
You have the third dynasty and other and and and Arioch, which
is representing the other part of the king, representing the

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other part of the Mesopotamian alliance.
And so you also have a gentile nation of of that's more further
north that's going to be represented in there as well.
So these are all giant nations. These are all Indo Aryan tribes
as you take them back and you can do this biblically and with
their names. I won't go into too much more

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minutiae on it, but one is an interesting name named Arioch
and King, By the way, King Kedalamar is the king of Elam.
And we just covered off who the Elamites are, right?

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And, and Elam and the God's nameis mixed in with that title name
for Catalayamar. And Arioch is from Arok, who is
the muscle behind the ER, the third dynasty.
And Catalayamar is sort of a vassal to that and is tax
collector, but not the senior position there in the

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geopolitics. And Arioch means lion like.
And as you take that back, it's got Arian written into it.
So does lion like sound familiarwith giants anywhere?
Well, it's like the lion like men of Moab and Gad, and it
means lion like. And these were wilderness men
which were gibberine, and these were warriors, and they had

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faces of lions. And so now we have a connection
to these giant like beings afterthe flood.
That's a connection to Arioch and there's an ancient city
that's in 2 Kings 17 where the Auving giants in his pocket of
Auving giants up there they worshiped Norgal, which was a

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lion headed God. If he produced, he'd produce
lion like men and Nebaz, which is a barking God in the head of
a Jackal or a dog. So he'd be kin to Anubis and if
Anubis produced giants? You'd have like these dog
giants, right? Like Sinoopolis, which was the

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city that he built for Forum, that the Greeks name Sinoopolis
meaning dog city. So you start to see some of
these connections. So these are the Mesopotamian
alliance of Eastern giants that includes the Indo Aryan
Persians, that includes the Cadmanim, the Olamim, the

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Canazim and the canine giants, all Eastern giants that are also
listed in Genesis 15, right? So we have those all listed in
there and within the table of nations.
And so they're going to say we're not going to let this
hybrid little Pentapolis not payus the the the tribute on a

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regular basis. So we're going to raise this
large army, but they know they're protected by these giant
alliances. So that's why they don't attack
Sodom and Gomorrah first. It's last.
So they're going to go to Mount Hermon first in the north.
They're going to wipe them out. They're going to go down and lay
a Whoopin through the, the MEM and the the the Zuzim, which is

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a branch of the Zamzuzim listed in in and Deuteronomy too.
And then they're going to go down into the southern part and
they're going to take on the Horim and the Malachim and the
Amorites. And then they're going to work
their way back up to Sodom and Gomorrah at the end.
And after the five cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are defeated,

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Lot is taken and Abraham is going to get some Amorite
hybrids chiefs and they're goingto do a commando raid on this
weekend army and get Lot back. And then Melchizedek comes up
and blesses Abraham and then he receives the land in Genesis 15.

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So this is just now changed the whole geopolitical nature of the
Middle East and weaken the giants significantly.
And you're going to have this ER, the third dominance over
much of the covenant land until the Amorites are going to move
into the Mount Hermon region because most of the referee are

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gone. King Aug is going to move from
Ugarit, his city the the KiriathUgarit city of Ogg the Terrible
1 is going to move back to Ashroth and Edra as he shows up
in the time the Exodus and he's ruling over Amorites.
Now you see why all of this makes perfect sense.
And then the Amorites are going to take revenge over what they

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did and they're going to overthrow the Elamite dynasty,
the Olamine, and they're going to they're going to govern the
Babylon Empire for several 100 years.
So the ramifications of everything that's going on,

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including Abraham and as he moves towards receiving all of
his blessings to create the nation of Israel, this is
settling out things for hundredsof years on who's going to
dominate the covenant land in the in the in the region from
Egypt to to the Euphrates. Wow, that's incredible.

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You mentioned something about a wall and you said you'd you'd
talk about that later. What?
What were you talking about? Well, in the war we don't get
mentioned of taking down any fortresses.
And so these Pentapolis show up in detail and other wars after

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the war of Genesis 14, particularly well entrenched by
the time of Israel coming in their circa 1500 BC.
So sometime between 1975 BC to 80 BC in that range in the time

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of of Abraham and this war and the time of the Philistines
coming in and the Philistines build a pentapoli.
So it could be them that brings the the the military strategy to
do this, or it could be in placeand they just take it to another
different level. But it seems to be a response to

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the whooping they took from the Mesopotamians and then after
that from the Egyptians, which were jockeying back and forth in
control over there. And so they built these large.
City, state, Metapolis with these large walls as a military
defense system that are all in place by the time Israel comes

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in so. It's important to understand
that there was an evolution hereto what Israel is going to see
it, and they may not be as many giants and there may be more
hybrids than giants, but there'sboth at the time.
But they're still operating in these great city walls that
walls that go up to heaven in the sort of allegorical
description of them and they would have to defend against.

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Giants, right? They'd have to be that big.
Right, Right, Right. So they're pretty tall.
Yeah. Are they still around today?
You think these walls? We see parts of them in
locations, yeah, but most, you know, like Jericho is was the
city of the Amorites. Jerusalem had this big city in
walled fortresses, as well as part of the Jebusites and

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Amorite. Influence in Jerusalem and but a
lot of them were destroyed to rubble in in the Exodus or the
conquest of the land of Israel, but not all but most of them
were destroyed. Interesting.
What are your thoughts, I guess about the Great Wall of China?

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Those those walls are very tall.They are and they're on the
east. You mentioned about the East and
the Giants on the East. Yep.
Is that connected? And so they would continue.
So there's a there's a race called that's mentioned in the
Bible and I mentioned them in Book 2 called Sinin.
And it means people of the Orient or of the East.

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And you might can make a connection to those that that
might be the bloodlines of the kings of the East in the end
time, because it's all the same sort of language.
And it's beyond the land of Mesopotamia that's being
referred to in into the Far East.
So as people migrated with Babeland as giants migrated, that's

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seemingly where you would get some of these bloodlines moving
to to the East. So.
There's a difference between theChinese and the Mongolians and
Tartarians that would be considered Mongolians.
And Mongolians were terrific horse riders like the Indoarians

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were, and they were depicted as more Caucasian than they were,
let's say, Asian. And these are the Tartarians,
and they kind of take their bloodlines back to King Ock.
Wow. Yeah, they had red.
Hair Scythians, What's that? They have red hair, Yeah, those

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Mongolian lot of Mongolian people there, they found them
with red hair. And Raphaim and Horim had red
hair. Wow, that's an interesting
connection. Yeah, without spending.
Because you could do on the Tartaria thing, you could do a
whole show. On Tartaria, but it's part of
that Tartar region, so as you see.

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These eastern giants of Scythians, in this case mostly
the red haired, but they also have the blonde haired ones that
are going to be a little bit more to the north and will be.
They'll settle in Kiev first andthen they'll do a branch
location in Moscow with Vladimirthe Great.
And this is the Putyannan bloodline that the Romanovs.

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Become a junior offshoot from in1600s through intermarriage.
And they're more of a blonde haired variety, but consider
themselves Tartarian as well. And Tartar is the name of the
Cossacks within the Ukraine, which were the Scythians, right?
So you see how and then with theAssyrians, we get these Tartar

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title that goes with the Assyrian kings.
That's part of the same ancient history.
And these are, and that's where the name Tartaria comes from for
that line of thought. And Tartarus, which is in the
polytheist version where the giants escaped from the prison
in the other world after the flood and.
Now you start to see some interesting ties and now you

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have this wall that's being fed up.
And even just before I get into the back to the wall, when the
Mongols with Kubla Khan and Genghis Khan start with Genghis
first for for the historical accuracy and and they they
overtook Moscow, but the Russians there, the Rus didn't

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consider them as a foreign enemy.
They were like a sister tribe that just.
Interesting. Took control of them because
they were. Right.
So it just it's just starts to make sense, but.
You have this division between the bloodlines that and I'm not
sure who and how it separates from the Indo Aryans both before

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and after the flood. With the dragon kings which were
the sons of heaven and the offspring of the dragon creator
gods both before and after the flood who they connect back into
from where giants were created. But it seems to be a distinct.
The bloodline of the Shah dynasty, which were all the

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dynasties coming from the Shah people, which were the original
tribe of these giants and so. Interesting.
And, and they're not wanting to be intermixed.
They're trying to keep their bloodlines separate, right, for
a long period of time. So now you have this response to
building this Great Wall that's designed to keep giants out.

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So interesting. Yeah.
And it actually serves its purpose for, you know, a long
period of time. And then there's a lot of
mythology that sort of go along with it with other beasts that
they might encounter. I don't know about all of that,
but I do know is is there. They were not, let's call them
symbiotic neighbors. They were not.

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Now back to the show. Well.
The Egyptian texts, they mentionthat they were terrified of the

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Anakim and even depicted them inrituals and curses.
Why? Yeah.
So why were they so afraid of these giants?
How did the? I guess the Anakim presence
impacted the Egyptians the the military, political strategy and
and Canaan. It did and they consider them

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the like their nemesis enemy. So I would suggest a rival
bloodline to the ones that were ruling Egypt and that the Anakin
were were very, very powerful military race.
And there would have been wars and they would create these

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these clay pottery things, you know, out of red clay and put
images of these Anakim on there and smash them in rituals.
It's like a voodoo curse, right?To do things to these these
Anakim kings. And they would ensure they would
kill them by taking their heads,which was the worst way a Royale

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could die. And that's how brutally that
they looked upon the rivals to the Egyptian dynasty.
Again, they're probably in there, but you know, as you go
downstream, they're intermarrying with other tribes,
but they're not intermarrying with the Anakin.
So there's something there that is a rival that is is hard to

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sort of understand, but it was certainly there as it's recorded
in the execration text and elsewhere how much they hated
the the Anakin. That's interesting.
So obviously there were giants during the Egyptian times.
There must have been. Have you?
Ever been to Egypt? I have not be a great place to

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go visit. Yes, I I've been to Egypt and
the pillars are huge. If you look at the entrance of
the door everywhere, it's it's amazingly huge.
I don't even know how they couldcreate it.
So like, I don't know, it's all one piece.
It makes sense that they were giants back then 'cause they

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must have been really strong andwas able to, you know, maneuver
that. I know there's other ideas where
people think that it's magnets or whatever.
Possibly all that came into play, but just the structure
makes sense if they were giants there.
Yeah, if you're. And, and two things is to keep
in mind is, is both before and after the flood, the fallen

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angels or the watchers or the gods took physical forms and
walked amongst us. And so they're represented as
taller than the giants are typically.
And so the giants walked amongstus both.
So they're going to create as the top class.
For the operating in the four class system buildings that are

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going to fit them and if the gods are walking amongst them
even to that height. Yeah, absolutely.
That makes so much sense. But no one talks about that.
No, they just say, well, they'rejust.
Doing things out of hubris that we can't even do today with the

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technology. But they don't talk about that.
And. That they fantasize that their
ancestors were giants and gods walked amongst them who are
giants. It's not possible, but they
decided to do this all over the world.
With the. Same sort of architecture design
and everything. And, you know, astronomical

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alignments and sacred geometry and Earth ratios and all stuff
that we can't do, including the size of the rocks and the, the
quality of the masonry. And they just said, oh, but
don't look there. They're just, you know, they're
imagining things. They're all crazy people.
Yeah, exactly, Exactly. But when you physically go

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there, like I was very fortunateto do, and to see that it's just
brand, it's like why and how didthey do it, and why would they
do it makes sense if they were because they were already
walking upon the earth at the time.
And how would you build Machu Picchu City in the mountains?
Right, you're right. Absolutely.

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Oh my gosh. Can you explain what the
thousand year rain is? I know we're going off subject
here. From a from a biblical
perspective. It is the reign of Jesus after
the Armageddon battle. Once he comes and he defeats the
terrible ones and the bloodlinesand establishes his Kingdom,

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he's going to reign for 1000 years and it's going to stand in
direct opposition to however oldyou think this world is.
But let's just take the genealogies back to Adam.
The last 6000 years, that is going to show by example what it
could be like, what it should belike, and it's also going to be

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used to humble humankind at the end.
Because even with that, people are still going to rebel when
Satan is released. So we are no better than the
angels in that sort of aspect. Unless we have God writing the
laws on our hearts and our spirits, then we can't move on
into eternity. But it's sort of just to Polish

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off that detail. But it's also a constant
understanding and polytheism. And so it's called as we would
understand it in Western terms, as the New Age and with the
Gnostics, the New Atlantis, the age of the Golden Age for the

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first time. And this was an age that ruled
before the flood that they've been trying to recreate after
the flood. And so in all of the polytheist
accounts, we have this other Messiah and multiple different
messiahs from different culturesaround the world.
We're talking about the same thing from Lord Matreya to to

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Antichrist in the Bible. They're going to try and create
this thousand year year reign just as an Antichrist figure
like Hitler wanted. The Third Reich, that's a reign
of 1000 years. So now people will call it in a
similar thing with National Socialism on a global scale, the
4th Reich that they want to bring about.

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And what's interesting with the new, with the new Atlantis that
the Rosicrucian Bacon wrote about, where you have this
universal religion, with this universal government that's
reigning. Atlantis was the center of
civilization in the Greek mythology that Plato wrote about
in Timaeus and Cretaeus. And there's other accounts as

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well, but that's the most detailed.
And that they had 10 demigod giant kings who ruled over this
empire and they were trying through war to bring about this
world government, just as Antichrist tries to do in the
end time to set up his thousand year reign.
So expect him to promise a falsethousand Millennium.

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And so what's also interesting is in Daniel 2, Daniel 7 and
Revelation 12/13 and 17, in the end time, there will be this end
time empire, the 7th empire of the post Alluvian empires that
will rise that will emulate the one before the flood because

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nothing is new under the sun. But was will be a game.
And there it's going to rise andit's going to be the the empire
in place that's going to hand their power over to the
Antichrist. The difference between what
happened in before the flood andwhat happens in the end time is

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is is I don't think you get a true Antichrist type figure
there. It the flood comes to prevent
that from happening. And just as Michael fights
against the beast empires after the flood, he doesn't fight from
them coming to power. He prevents, I think, Antichrist
from coming to power. OK.

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That makes sense. So during 1000 year reign this
will be on earth. Yes.
And will we as humans, since it's going back to the original
paradise, will be having death during the 1000 years?
Yeah, I would think so. I would think it's no.

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I'd only done in stark transition for a period, but not
all the names in the Book of Life would have been fulfilled.
So they'll be survivors going into the Millennium who didn't
take the mark of the beast and who weren't killed and the
tribes of Israel and they're going to repopulate.
And so that's why you get Gog and Magog as sort of descendants

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of gentiles that obviously are going to be in the Millennium
and part of the ones that rebel again it at the end time.
So I think there's a set of names written in that book of
life from before creation that are reserved for them.
And so they're going to have an opportunity to choose or not

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with intimate knowledge. And we're not told about them
being resurrected except for thelast resurrection.
So they're either going to be all judged at, at, at the same
time at the time of the second generation or the second
resurrection because we don't, we don't get details on that.

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But there are people that they're, you know, are going to
be reigned over and that are going to rebel.
So there's going to be sending that goes on throughout.
So I would think not everybody is going to accept things and.
So the people that comes, that makes it through to the other
side of the millennia, the survivors that didn't take the

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mark of the beast, will they be living onto the paradise through
the thousand year reign? They would live that long right
on earth. They won't.
They won't die unless. We don't know that, we're not
told that, so they may die. OK.
And that's if they rebel or do something like that.
Or do you think just regular, because we're going to be going

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back to perfection, is that correct?
Well, yeah, we're going to receive rule that is perfectly
good. OK, in all ways and it's in and
we're going to have humans put in that situation and it's going
to show that, you know, a lot ofus are weak and there's and
people are going to live and dieand but again, they will have a

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choice to accept the ways of Godor not.
And if they don't, then they're not going to receive, you know,
the reward of the resurrection. So I think when you look at, you
know, what's going on in the judgment of the resurrection,
it's not just of the dead, the ones that haven't already been
resurrected, but it's, it's people in the Millennium as

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well. That's part of this, this
judgment that's going on. But they will be held to a lot
higher standard because of the intimate knowledge, just as
fallen angels were held to a lothigher standard.
Yeah. So do you think that there would
be a resurrection of some peoplepassed away that would come,
like you said, like be judged atthat time, have another chance,

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maybe people who didn't understand or know or get the
opportunity to pick a side? I don't know if that's making
sense. Well, it's, it's possible we
don't get scripture for that, but you could make a case that
and but it'd be a lot of people,but who knows?
I mean, with with God involved, I mean, you could feed an

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infinite, infinite amount of people.
So you could have that type of population explosion and a
second sort of coming where you have ones that were going to be
put to the judgement because they didn't accept Jesus or, or
God that they would be awakened and put into a new oikatarian

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and given a second chance. But we, we don't get scripture
there. And what we are told is, is that
in, I think it's in the book of Hebrews where we're, we're only
to, to suffer death once and then the, the resurrection.
So I see. So I, I'm not thinking that

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that's likely, but I I what I tried not to do is get ahead of
the divine and they can do whatever they want to do.
Yeah, there's. Many scrolls that still have not
opened yet, so we don't know what's coming.
Yeah, we do not so and I and I leave judgment and and reward to

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eternity up to God and Jesus. It's just that that's not for us
to decide. We have an impact on ourselves
as to. Whether or not we.
We could be chosen, but we shouldn't extend that.
Yes, I agree. Have you found any connections
between Lemuria and the Cedars of the Earth in your research?

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And the Cedars of the earth as in the in the as in the trees of
Eden or. I don't know.
OK. So well, Lemuria is interesting
and we kind of get that more through Theosophy in the last
couple 100 years, although the amore ancient tradition suggests
that the name that's used for Lemuria is connected to like

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what they would call in in the occult, a original parent
civilization. And so even though in in most
understandings, as we see it come down today, it would be,
you know, very much connected inwith, you know, Atlantis,
Sumeria, MU as one of those civilizations.

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The other view is it's no, it's the parent one that produces
those other civilizations. And but we only get that through
theosophy that I'm familiar with, although you get some
reflections of that concept in other cultures.
Interesting. So the question then is, is what

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are they referring to? Is if it's a parent
civilization, is it the one thatmight have been from before a
destruction of the earth down toits foundations, let's say 1 by
fire that is renewed as a secondPeter 3?
Is is is seemingly talking about?

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Is it? Would that be that parent world,
that parent civilization that somehow the occult connects in
with the replenishing of the earth in in the renewal of the
earth as Psalms 104 describes it, when God sends his spirit
the earth, the earth is renewed and as seen through days one
through 6. We don't know, but it's hard to

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make unless it's an immortal being like a fallen Angel.
How does it trans transform through or transport itself
across that massive destruction that the earth with was left in
total chaos in the waters had collapsed again as second Peter
talks about the earth that was in the water that was out of the

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water that was destroyed by the fire in the beginning that's
reserved for the end time, whichis can't be the flood disaster
killing the earth because it wasonly the the land animals that
were killed so the earth didn't perish so and it wasn't
destroyed by fire. So the earth that.
Was in the water, that was out of the water.

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If you destroy this world. The waters above would collapse,
so that's why you would have to separate those waters again in
the renewal of the earth. So.
Interesting, I was going to ask.You and then the flood might be
as a result of God interceding so that the world isn't
destroyed by fire, because that's reserved for the end
time. That's interesting.

(01:08:11):
I was going to ask you one of mylast questions because I don't
want to keep you is what is the firmament and does it still
exist because you kind of just touched on that.
Yeah. So in days one through 6, we're
told that the God spreads, separates the waters from a
beloved, from the waters below to create the firmament.

(01:08:31):
And it's called heaven in Genesis 1.
And so heaven is the Hebrew wordShemaeim.
It's the plural version versus the Shema, which would be
singular except that we don't get the singular version used in
the Old Testament. And so heaven, as you take that
back, so in Exodus 2018, it saysthe days were created, heaven

(01:08:56):
and earth was created in six days, right?
And so that would be an argumentagainst the world on an older
world if you just looked at the word heaven.
But it also says that as you take that back to its Hebrew
word Shemaim, heaven is understood is 3 different
meanings, all interconnected. So first one is where God dwells

(01:09:19):
in another dimension for the angels dwell.
The 2nd heaven is the firmament that we just talked about.
So that's everything from the sun in however far that is and
that sort of Dome that we see above us and then outside the

(01:09:40):
firmament outside the distance from the sun.
Is the other heaven, so there's three locations for heaven.
So if you're using Exodus 2018, it's in perfect congruence with
an older Earth model where it was destroyed somewhere between
Genesis 11 and two. Where the earth was not was void

(01:10:02):
and formless, but became as highit can be translated was or
become and to Toho and Buhu. Means to become a ruin.
So it wasn't created not to be lived.
In Isaiah 45 when it says I didn't create the earth in vain,
that's the word Tuhoof. He didn't create it in a ruin

(01:10:25):
because he creates everything whole.
So now things start to make a little more sense.
And that the heaven that is created in the six days is
referring to the firmament that's called heaven once the
waters are separated. And and so you don't have a
contradiction there whether or not that an older world is
accurate. You can make a very consistent

(01:10:47):
and non contradictory argument and you can translate was in
Genesis 1-2 either way. So you have to sort of look at
for your own belief system. What do you think fits the rest
of the details of the Bible better?
Interesting. OK, so does it still exist
today? Lumeria.

(01:11:10):
Of the firmament. Well, the firmament is still
there, yes. It's still there, yeah.
Can we get past it? Well.
Have have we? You said it's.
If depending depending on how much information is legitimate
that we get from science, you would place the sun at
93,000,000 miles away within thefirmament.

(01:11:33):
So no matter what we say we've done, whether we went to the
moon or not, we haven't gotten that.
Far yet so got it but this idea that we can't get through the
atmosphere doesn't make any sense because they they combine
that as being the firmament which clearly.

(01:11:54):
Isn't the case. Right.
OK, that's interesting. OK, Well, I know you have an
audio book out now and I, I actually got the the second one.
I got your second book and I hadand I just recently got your
second audio now and I love it. So, but before we wrap up,

(01:12:17):
please let the listeners know where they can find you, where
they can get your latest work and your upcoming book.
And how's that coming along? Yeah.
So the best way to get a hold ofme is through my website
thatsthegenesis6conspiracy.com. That's Genesis 6 with the number
six conspiracy.com. And on the website I have a

(01:12:40):
media page and I have limited amount of media on there.
That's there's 15 on there, 16 of them on there.
There are 15 different shows that are two hours long on there
on each section of eight sections for book 17 sections

(01:13:02):
for book 2 where I have a Christian who is unsure about
unanswered questions in Christianity, recovering the
main topics of the section and answering tough questions that
Christians have. And that'll give you a good
flavor for the book. Or you could quickly go over to
book one where I have 98 chapters, a generous excerpt of

(01:13:26):
each, and then on 84 chapters for book 2.
So again, you'll get a good feelfor the book just by looking at
that. So if people ask me, do I buy
book one first or book 2? If you're going to buy book 2,
you should be familiar with the Bible.

(01:13:46):
And because I'm going to take you down deep into the Bible
unlike anybody's done before. And but you're going to be led
to book read book one because I do mention some things.
There's maybe only 10% overlap. It's all all new information.
And I would call, I would describe it as book one on

(01:14:09):
steroids and for Christians. And I would also say it's Doctor
Heiser on steroids. If you like Doctor Heiser,
'cause I, I think I'd go way beyond what he was writing
about. And if you're not familiar with
the Bible, start with book 1 andthat will be one of the most
unique books you ever write in the world because it shows how

(01:14:30):
the Bible intersects with the global testimony.
Book two shows how the world testimony intersects with the
Bible in a completely different way and all new, almost all new
information. So you'll get a good feel which
way you want to go. But you read either one of those
books, you'll never look at the world the same again.
I. Think.

(01:14:51):
Sure. And if you wanted to get a
signed copy, you can go to the buy now page.
On that buy now page, there's book one, book 2, and then
there's a bundling page. So if you wanted to buy both
books and get a signed copy, that's where you can do that and
get a discount for it. You have discounts for buying
multiple books on the other ones, but I had to do a third

(01:15:12):
page to do the bundling. So, so if you live in Canada and
I live in Canada, that's where you go to to purchase your book.
If you live in the US, click on the US page, anywhere else in
the world, go to the international page.
And I ship books all over the world.
And I also have links over to barnesandnoble.com, Amazon.com

(01:15:33):
and amazon.ca. And I think I'm gonna sign up
for a service anywhere in the world.
If you click on, it'll automatically go to your
location where Amazon is located.
I think I'll get that hooked up in the next 30 days.
There's also links over to the Audible versions and the digital
versions on Kindle on Amazon. So that's the easiest way to get

(01:15:55):
a hold of my books. It's also available on most
online bookstores and I'm told on other retailers.
I can't tell you who because they move in and off the shelves
pretty quickly on different stores.
So but that's the easiest way toget a hold of my books.
That's awesome. Thank you.
Again. Thank you so much for joining us
today. I really appreciate your time,

(01:16:17):
your generosity as always, and I'd love to have you come back
on the show so we can continue diving in deeper and all these
fascinating topics and explore even more of your insights.
Terrific. I would.
Appreciate you. Absolutely.
I would love to come. Back and that brings us to an
end of another episode. I want to thank my special guest

(01:16:39):
Gary Wayne for joining us today.His insights into the Genesis 14
Wharf giants, the fear of the Anakin in the Egyptian text, the
mysteries of the firmament, and the significance of the 1000
year reign always leaves us withso much to think about.
Every conversation with Gary takes us deeper into truths and

(01:17:01):
mysteries most people don't evenknow exist.
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