Episode 128. Jessie Czebotar | Mannequin Programming & Mind Control – The Hidden Hand Behind It All - Wake Up with Miya

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CERN was a major, you know, the easiest way to describe CERN was
that, you know, it had the majorHydron Collider, Alice.
Alice was basically an interfacewith the spiritual gates.
The purpose of Alice was to, youknow, kind of like like how do
you describe this Hydron Collider and it's full

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capabilities? You know, it's kind of like your
sci-fi movies. You have AI that's going to be
voice activated, but Alice's capabilities was that it could
control all the spiritual gates,sync them, and be kind of like a
light switch. If they wanted all the gates to
be turned on, you know, through the use of Alice, you could turn

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all the gates on, or open them all up at one time, or close
them all over. Aloha, and welcome back to

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another show, guys. Today, my special guest is Jesse
Saboter. She's a survivor of satanic
ritual abuse who has bravely stepped forward to expose the
hidden system of control that most people never even realize
exists. Jesse has first hand knowledge
of Elite Brotherhood's spiritualcontracts and the programming

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methods used to manipulate mindsand shape our reality.
In this episode, we're going to dive into mannequin programming,
a term that many may not have heard of, but one that carries
deep implications. What is it, how is it used, and
who could be influencing societyin ways we don't even recognize?

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Jesse will break it all down andshare insights from her own
experience within the system. Before we get started, don't
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And as always, the views of my guests don't necessarily reflect
my own or the shows, but this isa space for these discussions to
happen. Now, without further ado, let's
welcome Jesse So Boater back to the show.
Well, Aloha Jesse, and welcome back to the show.

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It's always an honor to have youhere and I truly appreciate your
time and your willingness to dive into these complex and
often unsettling topics. But I believe your first hand
experiences bring a level of insight that very few people can
offer. And I know our listeners

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appreciate, truly appreciate your courage and sharing in
these truths. So I get a lot of comments about
that. And the last time we covered
some intense topics. And today I'd love to go even
deeper. And in one of those areas that I
was looking into or I've been reading a little bit is the

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mannequin programming. I think it's, I'm not sure, but
I think it's a form of mind control that seems to be tied
into military, Black Ops and maybe intelligent agencies and
elite power structure. Of course it seems like they all
go hand in hand from and from what I understand, it's designed

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to create completely controlled robotic like individuals who can
carry out missions. Is that right?
Without memory or or I. Would say that's pretty, you
know, I think that's a pretty good definition of, you know
that. But again, understanding it's
not the only program that is compiled that way.

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So my expertise is kind of in the overall structure of the
program. So we'll kind of get into that
today. OK.
Yeah. So I'm, I'm really excited to
get into that because your experience within the system, I
guess does this kind of programming exist?
What when you were there? And I guess, I guess we'll talk

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about that and see how it fits into the larger structure of
control, mind control, who's behind it, things like that.
But I believe you have maybe something that we you wanted to
read that you just had gotten some update of news.
Yeah, there's a update for thosewho have been following.

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I have filed a complaint in the Florida courts against the
system. And so where you can follow, you
know, the updates on everything that's happening with that is
war correspondence by Timothy Charles Homeseth on
timothycharleshomeseth.com. So he just put out a new war

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correspondence today and it's titled War Report Evidence Shows
Satanic Murder Cult Judge James Boesburg.
And I might be pronouncing that incorrect, but Boesburg and his
wife, Elizabeth Leslie Manson, are child trafficking children

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with the US Department of Labor and the US Department of State.
And he puts up a picture of the sigil for the Department of
Labor. And if you look at that, you're
going to see a lot of the Masonic, the Brotherhood symbols
that we've talked about on some of our decode shows previously.

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So I encourage people to look atthat.
But it says publishers. Introduction This war report is
part of our ongoing coverage of the federal lawsuit filed in
Florida by Justice Marisa Boder against the FBIUS military in
Wyoming. Sheriff Grady, Judge and a

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literary or litany of other defendants, Jesse Marisa Boder
alleges that a small child in Wyoming is being forced to
participate in the above top secret military training
programs in violation of US labor laws, where he's forced to
endure rape by 10 men at a time while being filmed by defendants

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who sell the videos globally. For further stuff on that you
can read Listen I, Jesse Marisa Boder and Elon Musk case #824 CV
02988, U.S. court Florida Tampa Division by the Pentagon

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Pedophile Task Force, March 28th, 2025.
And yesterday he reported a war report.
US Judge James Emmanuel Bowesburg is a member of the
Yale secret society Skull and Bones satanic murder cult not
underoath to United States Constitution so now he says.

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Update Elizabeth Leslie Manson, AKA liddy Manson, is the wife of
Judge James Emmanuel boasburg. She serves on the board of
Verite, an NGO dedicated to supporting US corporations in
ensuring that their global supply chain comply with fair

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Labor Standards. Liddy holds an MBA and
certificate in public managementfrom Stafford University and ABA
in music from Yale University. Verite is a sprawling global
network with a strong focus of forced labor and features their
partners and clients on their website that include a test

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which is short for Alliance to End Slavery and Trafficking, The
Walt Disney Company, the US Department of Labor, and the US
Department of State. A test partners with a literary
human trafficking related organization including Covenant
House and McCain Institute. Among the cast of character

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setting on the Board of Trusteesof the McCain Institute is
Doctor Mark St. Esper, the former US Secretary
of Defense who was fired like a dog by President We'll just say
DJT on November 9th, 2020. The Covenant House is among the
list of organizations that are connected to Tom Holman, Goya

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Cares, Fox News, Operation Underground Railroad and Tony
Robbins, a scandal that revealedthe four mentioned scum.
Sorry, that's his words, not mine.
Announced via Harris volkner on Fox News that approximately 70
to 80,000 missing migrant children had been located.

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I'm going to encourage people toget in there and read that
article. There's a lot more updates in
there and you'll start seeing the whole story unfolding.
Timothy does such a great job onhis war correspondence and you
know it very well could be that these individuals scum may not

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even be the fullness of a word we could put there or what these
individuals are doing, but a lotof good updates on there and you
can find my affidavits as well, so.
That's incredible. Wow, that was a lot.
That was a lot. And I'm definitely going to go
and read all those affidavits and stuff that that's in his

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website. Incredible.
Well, I would like to get into the mannequin programming.
Maybe you could tell us what that means?
Well, when we're looking at, youknow, programming, we've talked
in the past about the structure of the system and how the system

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has to keep itself going and what do we have operating.
You know, at the end of the day,you have a spiritual, this is a
spiritual war, and there are spiritual entities that are
heading up that war. So, you know, when we're looking
at the system, it's top governances through the spirit

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world. You have Lucifer who's heading
up all of his armies. Everything in the past has kind
of been defined under what wouldbe classified the Babylon
system, and that was headed up by two major parties.
You had the Vatican and the HolySee kind of simultaneously, but

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in the background only because their their time of full power
had not yet come into place. But you also have the Leviathan
system, which is what we see everything in that system
transitioning into. And over that you have the
Sanhedrin. So, you know, as we're seeing

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the Babylon system fall, it's important to understand that a
lot of, you know, a lot of the operations, the programs, the
experiments, the projects, all of that fell, you know, into or
under the governance of those those governing bodies, the

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Vatican, the Holy See or the Sanhedrin.
And, you know, again, the purpose is to keep the system
going and that how did they do that?
It's through the children you have, you have those that they
consider expendable. Those children are going to be
pure profit and are very much going to, you know, cross paths

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with with the other group, whichare the hierarchy children.
You know, who are the hierarchy children going to witness being,
you know, raped, murdered, tortured, cannibalized.
It's, it's those expendable children.
And yet the hierarchy children may experience some of those
things themselves as well. But because they have positions

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within the system to keep it going, you know, there's they,
they won't be exempt from experiencing those horrific
things, but they may just not experience the same things.
You know, their life is pretty much safeguarded as long as
their position is needed. So we have that going on.

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So it's important to understand that.
And within the system, you constantly are having
individuals or circle groups that are are battling and
fighting against one another forpower, for authority
jurisdiction. You know, so you're going to see

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a lot of that. And, you know, kind of the
purpose behind a lot of these programs is that, you know, they
want to one, train, continue to train people up.
But the other thing is that, youknow, because of the wars and
the fights and the battles goingon between circle groups and

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people, they have to have a way to ensure that they're going to
kind of have the upper hand in the battle.
So the mannequin program, you know, falls into that category
of programs where they are goingto be weaponizing children.

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And, you know, the purpose is that, you know, they want to be
able to monitor, control, intimidate or even further train
or gather Intel on, you know, assets, individuals that they've
already invested in within the system.

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You know, they want to make surethat those who are bound by the
code of silence and the code of brotherhood are not sharing
their information or telling secrets or doing anything bad.
And and they're going to use whatever means they can to
control that. I've done it just as a

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additional resource as we continue talking.
I did another similar series on this on Aquarius rising Africa
called the mannequin programs. So in there I break down further
what we're going to get into here.
But you get a series of the the doll programs and you know,

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there's a lot of there's a lot of survivors that kind of claim,
you know, they may not always have the same name for these
programs, but they claim things that are similar that, you know,
fit all these different programsinto this category of doll

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programming. And the doll programming is
under like when you're within that system, you have the
brotherhood in the sovereign military, you have an overall or
an umbrella program, and that's going to be your monarch
program. Now the monarch program is split

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into five major divisions. So, you know, they symbolize it
as a butterfly. You have that main body of the
butterfly being, you know, beingthe into the kind of controlling
or the overseeing of all the programs.

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So, you know, very few individuals are going to have
that information. In fact, really as far as I
know, there was only one major programmer for the system who
oversaw all of the programming within the system and understood
all the different aspects of it.Then you had, you know, four

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other individuals that oversaw the extensions of of the monarch
program. So the, the wings on the monarch
program represent the four majorextensions that all programs are
going to fall under within that system.

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So in there, you know, you have,you have certain individuals,
they, they classified it further, you have, you know,
with it where kids going to experience this training or
experience the programs that's going to be in connection with

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that U.S. military and in connection with the sovereign
military. And we've talked about how, you
know, there's four major military bases where children
are first going to be taken around age 4 1/2 and or age 5.
And they're going to be selectedor, you know, chosen 4 different

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programs based on, you know, where they're at, what their
skill sets are, what their position is and what their
position requirements are. Those four bases are, you've got
the Palisades base off of California, underwater there you
have Carter Rock, which is alongthe east, that's the Naval war

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center. And then you have three major
bases that are kind of considered one, and they're all
identified as Ragnarok. So the one is down in
Antarctica, the other two branches, 1 is up in Greenland,
and then the other is off of theAleutian Islands in Hawaii.

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So those are the major, you know, I just kind of classify it
as you've got 4 because the Aleutian Islands is kind of
looped into the Greenland base. But so in that, you know, all
the children that are are selected for training or
programs are going to go throughthe have a stent through those

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bases and it'll be determined, you know, what programs are they
going to be connected to. So as that happens, you know,
things are going to begin to branch off and the monarch or
sorry, the mannequin program, I think the roots of that program

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goes back to the baby doll programming.
And I believe that, you know, the baby doll programming is
probably one of the older names for all of the doll programs.
And you see, like even, you know, from like the 40s through

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the like 40s through the 60s, I would say maybe even the 70s,
you'd get a series of all these interesting dolls being
displayed, doll collections. You had people who were doing a
lot of that you have like the QPor the QD doll.
The Gerber babies became a big thing where people were

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marketing, you know, doing different types of contests,
picture contests with their babies, trying to have their
babies as the Gerber baby of theyear, stuff like that.
You had one of the other older names for it would be the
Thumbelina programming. But the basis of the, you know,

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the, the main basis of the baby doll program is to, you know,
render the child, you know, in astate where one, they can't
fight, 2, they're kind of paralyzed or, you know, they,

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they can't vocalize things or that, you know, they're, they're
silent. And, you know, so initially it
would be used to put the victimsinto that state where, you know,
there would be a certain code word or something that they

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would see. And all of a sudden, you know,
they can't move. They're going to disassociate,
You know, so it was connected tothe forming of altars, the being
able to call up different altars, as well as the ability,
you know, for people who were overseeing those children to be

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able to cause them to go into that disassociative state.
You know, so they would do different things.
And, you know, there are a few survivors out there, especially
with the Thumbelina program, where they're going to talk

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about, you know, what happened to them in that, what that was
like. And sometimes the children would
remember what was happening to them and they just physically
were not able to move to protectthemselves or to fight.
But others, you know, it would be used to switch them into an

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altar state. You know, an altar is like if
you imagine your body and you have a soul, you know, in that
the mind is split through dissociative means so that you,
you know, within one body it's gonna be like you've got

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multiple people living within that one body.
The most are not gonna be, you know, because of the splits.
That person isn't even gonna realize that they have all these
other personalities or lives. It's just whatever's called up
is how they're going to live. And they don't know the fullness

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of everything that's happening. The older name for that, rather
than disassociation was the multiple personalities disorder.
So you know, with that mannequinprogramming then or the
continuance, you know, the system would use a lot of

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different imagery. So you get into the China doll
imagery, the porcelain dolls. There's actually stents.
One of the places where they do the training for the porcelain
dolls is at the Biltmore, which I've named in my affidavits with

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Gloria Vanderbilt. And they have an area, they call
it now a craft room. But they'll take children
through there. They'll have, you know, children
make a porcelain mask or they'll, they would make a
porcelain doll. And then there would be
something of that child's, you know, DNA, whether it was hair,

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whether it was like, you know, some blood or whatever that
they're going to mix in the porcelain.
But there would be something that they would mix in there
that then would connect that child to that doll.
And she was notorious for, you know, making these little dolls,
not all porcelain, but, you know, she would make these

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little dolls and take snippets of people's hair and put it on
these little dolls. She had all these doll houses.
Her and Mary Lou Whitney were famous for their dollhouse
collections, but they would use those dollhouse collections for
divination purposes. So if you know, Gloria was a

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grand high priestess, meaning she was a quadrant leader in the
East, and she had lots of high priestesses underneath her.
And if any of those got out of control, you know, she literally
would create these dollhouse scenes with with their little

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dolls that she had made of them.So you get that kind of concept
of like a voodoo or hoodoo with that.
But she would do these death scenes, depictions of them and
and send it to them and then, you know, they would end up
dead. So, you know, just all sorts of

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horrific forms of divination were can be used with that.
You know, she also used bigger dolls where, you know, she would
have closets and they would use it especially at night to
terrorize, to stalk. They would purposely put all

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these, you know, beautiful dolls.
You'd, you'd see all these dollsthroughout houses and their
houses in different rooms. But the purpose was that those
dolls could collect information,could monitor even at times, you
know, you know, whether I, you know, I don't have the full
explanation. But what I believe happened with

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this was that, you know, you've got high level witches and
warlocks that can astral projectand as well as use spirits that
they've aligned themselves with to inhabit things.
And so you would get paranormal activity with these dolls.
That's probably the easiest way to explain all that.

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So, you know, the, the doll programming's could include
actual children that that they would make, you know, when
triggered, they would act like adoll or it could include actual
dolls that they would make and use in that you would, you know,

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as it went further, you started to see that they began to use a
lot of those in the doll programs in connection to the
magic basically magical sex. So that's where you get a lot of
like dolls, like you'd have programming that went along with

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the Kissy Kathy dolls and the what was the one?
I always forget the Betty Boop was another that they would use.
But you would get like, you know, children that would be
programmed to be very seductive,very provocative, you know, and

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they would just, it would just be a matter of calling that
child up when they had clients and that child, you know,
couldn't fight or do anything, but they were programmed to, you
know, respond sexually. So that's a lot of how it's

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used. And, you know, with the sex
magic, you know, it was more than just dimensional access.
You, you know, you had access tospiritual brothels, you had high
level access to children then that may not be just trained for

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sexual purposes, but also then assassination purposes where,
you know, they could use those children, you know, against
other nations or other circle groups.
And it would be hard to know, you know, who was programmed for

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that or not because of the altars and the complete splits.
You know, they wouldn't even know to expect that somebody had
that programming. So I think that's, you know,
pretty much the the bulk of it. Yeah, I had a completely.

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Wrong questions that you have and then we can get into one
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Now, back to the show. Yeah, I had a completely wrong.

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I thought it was more like the Super soldier, things like that.
That's not what it's. You can as you get into the when
they added the assassin programsto it, you can get, you know,
super soldiers with that too. Like I said, I think that, you
know, the monarch or sorry, the mannequin program has morphed

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from that baby doll program. And I think that's where then
you do get more of the Super soldier like, you know, the what
you see kind of it looks like the Star Wars paratroopers where
you get those, you know, very robotic, like super soldiers in

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mass amounts and you can't talk with them like when they're
triggered. It's just all, you know,
whatever they're programmed to do, they're going to accomplish
the mission. So I think that that's where it
morphed, it morphed into. I see.

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Well, I'm curious to see what you have there to show, to show
us. I don't know if you have.
Did you have some kind of? Oh, not to show, just if you had
questions. I, I had one area with it.
We could talk a little bit more,but.
Have you encountered or witnessed any mannequin

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programming within the Luciferian Brotherhood?
Yes, I was going to get into that next.
Yeah. So they they do use that,
especially with, you know, the, the training at the higher
levels. And I witnessed it more in

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connection with the individuals in the sovereign military or as
I went into earlier, the Gloria Vanderbilt type stuff.
But they, you know, they would use it kind of odd.
I don't know how to explain all of it, but in the training, you

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know, different scenarios, like one place, you know, we went
through kind of like the Greek islands in Project X, you know,
that's going to be connected to the group.
I have an affidavit that contains information about
Greenbrier Hotel. You get the Transalchemy Lunatic

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Asylum in there and Alton Towersand Greenbrier Girls Academy.
So you'd have entire areas that would be used for training and
within that, you know, each of those different places within

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that area that you go to, you'regoing to encounter different
things. So, you know, we would see
things like, you know, where youwould see children literally
frozen, or it could be adults orpeople, you know, you would just
see them completely frozen like a mannequin.

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And but you, you know, it's likeyou could never trust because
you didn't know. What are they going to do?
Are they just listeners? Are they going to try to kill
you? You know, so they would.
It was almost like living through nightmares of, you know,
live virtual games, you know, where you, you're basically find

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yourself in a situation where there's, I mean, they're not
even obstacles, but you have objectives and you don't know
what you're going to encounter in those objectives.
And so really, you know, it's, it's quite a psychological trip
because you know, you've got people that can be one way, one

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moment and the next minute they're gone and you're like,
where are they? You know, and then you find them
creeping back later, you know, so that's how I would describe
that. And there's just no, you know,
at 1 moment they can be completely mentally checked out.

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Like I don't, I don't know if others have ever experienced
that, but it's like you have a person in front of you and
they're there 1 moment and the next moment it's like there's
nobody home. And, and you can't do anything
to, to really communicate with that individual.

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You know, very quickly they become a strong enemy and the
only thing you can do is whatever you have to do to
defend yourself. And many of them they don't have
not only do they not have a shutoff, but there isn't like a red
a registering in their mind of pain or or suffering or this is

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right or this is wrong. Like, you know, they're just
determined to complete whatever that mission is.
And if you're on their destruction list, the only way
out of that situation is that you know you have to stop them.
Usually that means, you know, they have to be taken out

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because there's no other way foryou to interact with that.
You know, unless miraculously the Lord causes them to check
back in, you know, they're goingto they're going to do
everything within their means toharm or to kill.
And you know, you can't do anything other than fight and,

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you know, protect yourself. So it's a very scary thing for
kids, especially when you have, you know, other children that
that are doing that because, youknow, no child's heart is to
hurt another child or to see anybad stuff.
But those are kind of like the hallmarks of those that are

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programmed that way. There's just, you know, no pain,
no tolerance. Like they will continue going,
going, going. Are there any other signs
besides them being frozen and not there so to speak, that

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someone has been subjected to these kinds of programming's?
Not that, not that I would outright recognize, you know,
it's, it really is like a click on, click off thing in my

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experience, you know, and you didn't know unless you saw that
person being programmed, you really wouldn't know who went
through those programs or not. You get a lot of, I think 2
primary groups, like within the programs in the military, every

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program, you know, they would have doctors that would oversee
those programs. They would also have
psychologists. A lot of times the psychologists
were also the ones doing the biofeedback.
You know, they would also be in charge of the reprogramming if

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somebody's program was breaking down.
I don't know. To date, I don't believe there
has been any reprogramming of, you know, those with the
mannequin program. I could be wrong on that, But
usually it seemed like the main bulk of the programs would last

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about 30 years and then every 30years they would have to have
reprogramming. But in that in that 30 year time
frame, you know, if the mind didn't respond to the secondary
programming, that's where you would get like a lot of issues
and people just mentally not being able to function, you

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know. So it seemed like there was a
lot of issues with those with the programs, but the the
doctors for the programs, you know, would be called like
doctor white, doctor green, doctor black, doctor blue, you
know, and that would be quadrantly regionally.

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You would have different doctorswho specialized in different
things and would be kind of known by that.
Their colored names basically. Were there specific locations
where these type of programmingswere conducted?
There are, you know, but I don'tthink anybody's put that

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information out. I'll just put it that way.
You there are some places that have been made known like, you
know, different military bases like I've, you know, I wouldn't
necessarily say the four main military bases that we've named
where the four and a half to five year old go.

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Some of those do you know, they,they basically institute or
establish the initial basis for the monarch programming in the
trainings. But then you're going to see,
you know, children as they're selected for various programs.

(40:45):
And a lot of times it's multipleprograms.
You'll see them outsource to different bases.
Kind of like Stranger Things. I don't know if you saw that
show I. Did.
Yeah, Yeah. Kind of like that where they
have children that I don't even,I don't remember the base of the

(41:06):
show too much. I don't know where they got that
little girl, but kind of like that they grabbed the little
girl and they did all kinds of tests on her and and made her be
able to do things with her mind or whatever.
Yeah. So in that show, you see that
like there's kind of like a connection with military labs.

(41:29):
I've named that Oak Ridge is one.
It was one of those labs in Tennessee.
You also have like plum, the plum labs, you'd get connections
with some of the islands like Jackal Island, Coronado was a

(41:49):
huge military base that did a lot of different programs like
that as well. So, you know, close to the
palace 80s, but a little bit different.
And in there, you know, you see that they had the the main
character in that show, the girl, her mother actually was
somebody that they had go through the breeder programs.

(42:14):
And so they bred the child. But at the same time, the mom
went through all these LSD programs and they, you know, and
the show claimed that the LSD was kind of what gave the girl
the Super powers or abilities. Then she got entered into this
program where they were teachingher how to control things with

(42:35):
her mind and how to access, you know, the underworld, the other
dimensions and stuff like that. So it is very similar like that.
And the underground, you know, is so vast and, you know,
there's so much that they've done not only through the bases
but military labs as well there.It's really massive, you know,

(42:59):
which is part of what I'm tryingto bring out is how massive it
is. The weaponization of our
children, you know so. It's funny you brought up a
Jekyll Island because isn't thatwhere the Federal Reserve was
created, I guess, or is there, Idon't know, but that's that's

(43:21):
that that's where they their bases or was.
Right. Yeah.
That's crazy. Yeah.
And do they, I guess they specifically these, whoever
these people are, these elites, the Luciferian Brotherhood, they
specifically want to target children.

(43:43):
Because if, if the program's 30 years, I mean, after 30 years,
if they start at 4 to 10 years old, I mean, they'll be 40 to 50
when they're done. And I mean, maybe they won't be
able to use them so much no morebecause they're getting older.
I don't know, but that seems quite interesting. 30 years.

(44:06):
Yeah. I'm surprised it's not 33 years.
I don't know if that's. I don't think they have control
over when it starts, you know, if or when it starts breaking
down. But I think that's just been,
you know, it seems like it's about that long is how long it
lasts. And it's funny, you had

(44:27):
mentioned that one of the bases in is in Greenland.
That's where Trump is trying to take.
Yeah, right. Yeah, you have Camp Century
there and stuff. Yeah.
And then JD Vance is there rightnow.
The vice Print. The Vice President is there now.
Right. Yeah, doing talks, I think

(44:47):
that's all about that Greenland base that you have a massive
nuclear facility there. So I think that, you know,
there's a lot going on there andI think, I mean, this is just my
personal belief, but we know that there's been a lot of
misappropriation of funds and our money for we the people.

(45:09):
And I think we're going to find that, you know, really other
countries, other countries, other people groups, whether
that's Brotherhood or sovereign military, you know, foreign
governments and military that they have been, you know, they
have been utilizing these areas to do their training, their

(45:33):
programming, their experiments. And we have been paying for it,
thinking that the alliances, that it's all military, you
know, that we're offering a service, you know, and we've got
to pay for soldiers that we havethere.
But I think we're going to find quite a different story of

(45:54):
what's really happening there and where our money has really
been going and what it's been going to.
And you know, if we are, if we own that base and everything
that's happening there, everything that's, you know,
operating and working their economy revolves around that,

(46:15):
you know, there's kind of an issue there.
Absolutely. I know and not, I don't like to
get political, but I mean, I know recently the JFK files was
released and I and I believe they that they said that and
I've heard this before that the driver, the CIA, he was ACIA

(46:36):
intelligence guy. He was the driver driving the
car was the one who turned around and shot JFK twice, shot
him first in the neck. And that's why Jacqueline
Kennedy was trying to get out ofthe car, because she saw him do
that. What if, if the bullet was
coming from wherever they were saying it was coming from, why

(46:59):
would she run out of the car? She would.
You would think she would stay in a car and try to duck, but
she didn't. She tried to get out.
That's the videos that they show.
And then he turned the driver turned around again and shot him
that the second time, which was in the head at that time.
So I mean, and these are our money.
These are our our guys, the CIA's, right?

(47:21):
So that's this is where our money's going.
So I think that when these filesare coming out, I think it's
going to open a lot of people's eyes.
Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.
You know, people got their. Own I think it will, and I think
you know it. I hope it's showing too, that a
lot of it was connected to a satanic, a satanic group.

(47:41):
Secret societies, you know, and who is that?
That's the Brotherhood and the sovereign military order.
You know, that's who he was trying to take a stand against.
And I think a lot more is going to come out in that, you know.
That's crazy. So is the CIA part of this
group? The Satanic Brotherhood group?

(48:03):
Or maybe they're the foot soldier part of it.
Yeah, I wouldn't even necessarily say foot soldier
like how things how my experience of the structure of
that was that, you know, I've named that my main teacher was
the Nazi Michael Carcock and he was the Legion of defense leader

(48:23):
for Adolf Hitler. His main specialties were
defense magic that Adam mass scale like his knowledge
revolved around how did the spiritual, you know, gates work
and operate and around the world, you know, where are they?
How can they use them? So those were his specialties.

(48:44):
And after World War 2, when you had all the Nazis coming over,
he was one. And he was very vital in
structuring, you know what, we'll just say that shadow
sovereign military, you know, within our government and

(49:04):
quadrantly and regionally. So how he did that was, you
know, the main two people he instructed first were Michael,
Colonel Michael Aquino and John O Brennan.
Colonel Michael Aquino he put over the Department of Defense
and in charge of all of the programs and training in the

(49:27):
Western quadrants. And then John O Brennan, he put
over the CIA, the Central Intelligence and, you know, put
in charge of all the training and programs over the East.
Now, how that worked in operation was that you had, you
know, the Department of Defense in conjunction with the the

(49:49):
military bases doing the initial, you know, training,
preparing, you know, getting thechildren that the system was
going to use ready. And then you had Jonah Brennan
come in with the intelligence. So once children were trained
through the Department of Defense, they would be put into

(50:10):
specialty positions within Central Intelligence and made
operational at a either we regional or quadrant level.
So that's how I kind of witnessed all that working and
all of that to keep the trafficking of the children
going. You know that's crazy.
That is really, really crazy. It's kind of scary really is

(50:34):
that they are protecting these people and their head or their
were head of our intelligence and.
Protections. Yeah.
They're all, you know, all brother, all foreign military,
all foreign government. You know that that should scare
us. We can't let that happen again.

(50:54):
You know, it's like we've got todo.
We've got to take a stand against this.
We have to put things in our country back in order and take
control of the governance of that and of our military.
Is there any connection between all of this and the missing 411
in our national parks? Are they hiding things in our

(51:17):
national parks? I believe that that is highly
connected with the Brotherhood and sovereign military and I've,
I've done several shows about the hunting parties.
So you get where you know, they're hunting humans.
That's part of the training. And, and so you know you're

(51:39):
going to get the connection withmissing people and a lot of
times in connection to those human hunting parties.
Yeah, I can't remember if we talked about that with Josh or
not. I don't the second I can't.
Remember if we did I don't we covered that with him or not
but. I don't.
Yeah. That's interesting.

(52:01):
Wow. Is there a difference between
programs like MK Ultra and this mannequin programming?
I would put the mannequin programming under the MK Ultra
programs, but you get different,you know, I distinguish between

(52:23):
the training programming and MK Ultra.
You know, MK Ultra is kind of like you're, I would say like
the most intense forms of all the programming because you're
going to have horrific torture you, you at some extent there's
going to be a loss of people's, you know, ability to think or do

(52:50):
for themselves. Many of the individuals with the
MK Ultra are going to have a handler or a controller,
somebody who can call them up orcall them down.
Not all of the programming had that in the training.
You know, it wasn't, it was verydifferent from that.

(53:12):
Like with the training, it was more of like a succession where
you had you could have multiple individuals involved.
They're going to each teach you their skills, but they want to
raise you up to be somebody in charge.
So you know, you have your mental capacity, you're able to

(53:32):
think, you're able, you know, you have to be able to fight to
for power authority, jurisdiction.
So, you know, they're going to allow you to be able to do that
versus, you know, there's a lot more control and monitoring with
those that are MK Ultra. And you get a lot more of the,

(53:55):
as hard as it is to, I mean, really, there's not a way to
distinguish the, the physical torture or the mental,
psychological, spiritual torturethat children in this system are
going to go through. But in my eyes, even though I
would classify my training and the programs I went through is

(54:18):
absolutely horrific, I still, there were things that I never
had to experience myself that kids who go through the MK Ultra
programs, you know, it's just much more horrific.
Things like the electrocution, you know, the drownings, the

(54:40):
different things like that, thatthey're going to go through to,
to make them, you know, submit and to fall in line.
You know, I mean, they break them.
They break it and not, I'm not saying, you know, people there
can't be healing for that, but it's like there's an absolute
breaking of the child, the child's soul, the child's

(55:03):
physical body, you know, I mean,think about that, that those are
the ones that when they call them up, the pain does not even
register, you know, I mean, horrific things.
We're not talking like, you know, you're just going to hit
him with a baseball bat or something, you know?

(55:23):
I mean, it's like literally these people will go and go and
go until there's nothing left oftheir body and they're still
trying to go, you know? So what can cause a child or,
you know, who's now an adult? What type of torture does that
take to make somebody like that?Yeah, I remember seeing when I

(55:48):
was a kid in school, they had showed us this videos about
drugs and LSD specifically. And I don't, I really don't know
why the school was showing that,but it was a film about that and
and showing how crazy these people get.
And these people were jumping from three, four story

(56:09):
buildings, falling on the ground, getting up and yeah,
like nothing and would keep going.
I remember that video film that we watched as 5th graders.
That's what I'm talking about. I mean, it's, it's absolutely
wild and crazy, you know, like things that defies what you

(56:30):
would think, you know, defies anything you could imagine a
person being able to do or, you know.
That that certainly is superhuman doing that.
I mean, I'm sure once they're done off of that high, they're
in total pain. But I mean, at the moment
they're not when you're on LSD. So, so these people that are

(56:54):
programmed who who's benefiting from from this by programming
that them, are they just Guinea pigs and seeing what they can
do, how much they can get away? I think you get some that are,
you get somewhere, they're just,you know, they're going to
torture them their whole life and, and see what, what extent

(57:17):
they can take the body to and what people can survive.
But then you get others where they are purposely going to be
used. I think you get a lot of your
specialty OPS groups or where they're going to put those
individuals 'cause they're, you know, they're not going to have
them usually in your main military structures or your main

(57:42):
Central Intelligence structures.You know, they want to keep it
very secretive who they have andwhat those assets can do.
Yeah. Do you believe these are still
being actively used within military or intelligence circles
today? Absolutely, yeah.
I think where you get it is through the Voice of God

(58:04):
project. The ones that I think are still
currently being used are those that are the Theta or the Omega
warriors, which are specific. You know, within that Voice of
God project, you had two major warrior groups trained.
The first were your alpha warriors and their job was to

(58:28):
prepare society, get everything ready for end time events so
that when those events came, everything was in place.
So you see like a lot of communities now having the
community preppers, you see those community preppers going
like into businesses, hospitals,you know, your fire departments,

(58:50):
all sorts of structures putting things into place in case a
natural disaster or something happens, right?
So those are your alpha warriors.
And then your Omega and Theta warriors are those that are
specific. You know, they're usually your
sleeper cells that are set asidefor specific events.

(59:13):
They won't be triggered until their time comes.
And it's, it's so secretive that, you know, people don't
know until that, you know, thosewho are meant to trigger them
will do that when it's that timefor whatever they're called to
do. Is this you think for end time

(59:34):
prophecy? Is that what they're aligning
here? It is, yeah.
I fully believe that, yeah. Wow, so these soldiers and
whatever that they're trying to train these people to do,
they're trying to get. I don't I don't know I'm trying

(59:56):
to think I'm trying to think in my head.
I have this vision is so. The the end goal is to you know,
the enemy wants to open all the spiritual gates at one time.
OK, a CERN was a major I I. You know, the easiest way to
describe CERN was that, you know, it had the major Hydron

(01:00:17):
Collider Alice. Alice was basically an interface
with the spiritual gates. The purpose of Alice was to, you
know, kind of like like how do you describe this Hydron
Collider and it's full capabilities?
You know, it's kind of like yoursci-fi movies.

(01:00:37):
You have AI that's going to, youknow, be voice activated.
But Alice's capabilities was that it could control all the
spiritual gates, sync them and be kind of like a light switch.
If they wanted all the gates to be turned on, you know, through

(01:01:00):
through the use of Alice, you could turn all the gates on or
open them all up at one time or close them all at one time.
But you know, Alice broke. So Alice isn't working right
now. But you know, the main goal was
to get all these warriors, everybody ready.

(01:01:20):
And then according to the biblical prophecies out of the
Book of Revelations, the enemy plan to gather all his armies at
the Valley of Jezreel or Armageddon.
And that's the threshold where the enemy believes he'll be able
to get through into, you know, heaven to to usurp the throne of

(01:01:42):
God. But that was kind of the major
end time agenda that everything was moving towards.
I see. So so when they opened these
gates, what do they think that or what do they want or what is
going to come out? Is it just demons or are we
talking giants or what are we talking is coming out?

(01:02:05):
You do have, yeah, you have boththat are below, but the, and I'm
glad you brought that up becausethere, you know, the gates, you
have those that are above that open up to heaven, you have
those below that do open up to the abysses.
And that was where the Lord asked.

(01:02:26):
Some of the entities are fallen ones that were too, too horrible
to be allowed to roam. You know, we know scripture says
Lucifer, Satan is allowed to roam, to go to and fro
throughout the earth. So you have some that were able
to. We know that as Zaziel, he's

(01:02:47):
chained at Euphrates River. He wasn't chained below because
he has an end time purpose. You know the Lord will allow his
army in the last days to make a last stand.
Yet some of them were so horrific that the Lord chained
them down below until their day of judgment.

(01:03:10):
So you do have you have entity spiritual entities as well as
there are giants. You know those that they
consider the Titans or you know,they have always throughout the
years had all these different names for them, but.
Oh my God, So these super soldiers that they're trying to

(01:03:32):
create, are they going to be fighting against those demons
and giants coming out or are they going to be fighting with
them and fighting and attacking us?
You know, like which which way are they trying to think?
It depends on the end time agenda.
Yeah, I think it could go both ways.

(01:03:54):
That's awful. It just depends on who's in
control at that moment of those super soldiers.
I see because I it seems like they want to push this to
happen. Do they want the end time to
come quicker? I know because God, Jehovah, do
they have a time frame of when it's going to happen and we

(01:04:17):
can't. I don't think we can change
that, but they are they trying to push that agenda.
They had to move it up earlier because the, you know, but it, I
believe it was fully the hand ofGod that moved the time frame up
initially. That time frame, you know, they
knew through the looking glass experiments that, you know, they

(01:04:40):
could see up till 2024, but thennot pass that.
So, you know, they knew that they had the ability to kind of
try to change events or make things, you know, turn out
differently up until that point.But now they're past that time

(01:05:01):
frame, everything is going to roll out according to God's
sovereign plan. So there's not much that they
can do with that. You know, original thoughts are
anywhere from 2024 through 2030 when things are, you know, going
to happen. And, you know, they did not have

(01:05:24):
like every generation, like even, you know, for my position,
they would have successors. But just for an example, you
know, with my generation, we were the last successors and
that was a top position in the system.
So, you know, it tells you that where they think they see

(01:05:47):
themselves because there are no more, there are no more
successors for top positions. So it tells you that they
believe that these are the last days.
Wow, that is crazy. I know you when you were talking
about the mannequin and how people were like standing there
like a doll and you can't move them.

(01:06:08):
I don't know if you have you been, maybe you've been on the
confessionals. Yes.
Have you been? You have, right?
Yeah. OK, that's right.
I, I remember that now. Well, he talked to someone that
was a highly intelligent military.
I don't know what his position was.
I don't think, I don't know if he even said exactly what his

(01:06:30):
position was, but he was a secret military guy that was
told to go on this mission to, Iguess he found this craft,
crashed craft, and had Enochian writings on it, what he believed
was Enochian writings on it. And but when he ended up going

(01:06:54):
to the craft, and then I believehe came back, when he came back
onto the boat, 'cause I believe they had to go on a Navy ship or
something. Everybody in that ship was
frozen still, only him and one other person I believe was not.
And I believe that was episode 122 on the confessionals.

(01:07:17):
And I found that very interesting.
I mean, when you hear his story,you can tell that he experienced
something because he was. The way he was talking was like
he was afraid. Yeah.
Yeah. And it was a a crazy experience,
Yeah. I mean, it's, I mean, it's like
a, you know, it's, it really is like being in a horror movie

(01:07:39):
because you don't know what to expect.
People are just. Frozen.
Scary thing when you see people just completely frozen and not
bonding at all. And you know, you certainly
don't feel safe and you don't want to put yourself in an
unsafe situation, but what do you do?
You know, you don't even have a way to help them most of the

(01:08:04):
time. So, you know, it's like, what do
you do? You, you have a choice.
You either just leave and leave them there, leave it as his or
if they start doing something, you know, then you got to fight.
But yeah, it's, it's terrifying.Absolutely.
Wow. Well, maybe I'll put that and

(01:08:24):
maybe I'll find your. Yeah, the previous Rising
episode was really good. We went into like a little bit
more details and some of the other program extensions with
that. I'll find it and I'll attach it
to to here too, so people can watch that as well because I

(01:08:46):
know people like to, to look at things like that and listen.
So that's great. Well, I just want to take a
moment to personally thank you again for being here.
I don't want to take up more of your time because I know you
always give us so much of your time and every time we talk, you
bring such depth and clarity to these topics.
So I truly appreciate your courage and sharing these

(01:09:09):
experience. And I know these aren't easy to
speak about, and it takes a level of strength that not many
people have. So your willingness to, your
willingness to pull back these curtains on these hidden
realities is something I deeply respect.
So I don't want to take that lightly.
Yes, absolutely no thank. You I'd like to share one last

(01:09:34):
thing if I can of course for those who are really interested
in learning more and you know I do a lot of coaching and coming
up here on April 12th I will have the first international
decode coaching so in that we'llbegin to break down how do you

(01:09:56):
read the Crest and the quadrantssign so I encourage people
register for that it's all the coachings are free you can sign
up for as many as you want but this will be the first
international 1 so. That's awesome, thank you.
I will link that your website inthe show notes.

(01:10:17):
I will link that as well. Thank you for everything you do
and for being here once again. I always look forward to our
conversation. I hope we can have another one
again soon. Yes, sounds good.
Just let me know a few dates andtimes I'm more than happy.
And that brings us to an end of another episode.
I want to give a huge thank you to my special guest and friend,

(01:10:40):
Jesse Saboter, for coming on andsharing her incredible insights.
Her courage in exposing these hidden systems is truly
remarkable, and I deeply appreciate her willingness to
have these conversations with us.
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(01:11:28):
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a call. Bye.
Keep coming. Fucking impacts while my blood

(01:11:50):
is pumping. Yeah.
I'm up to ballast. Through your fingers.
Tighten up. I can't escape you.
I can't escape you enough. Come on, baby.
I know you wanna don't. Don't take us up.

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