Episode 144. Uncovering the Mormon Cult with Heidi Luv

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These people are being tricked. They're being told something
that has nothing to do with God.And I actually challenged that
possibly they're worshipping another entity, not, you know,
they call it Mormon Jesus. You know my bets on Hallel.
But as far as who they worship as, as Jesus, but not only one

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deity is worshipped for sure. There's multiple deities here,
and one of them is Abraxas, who very rarely gets talked about
and you know it. It's got a direct link to Joseph
Smith's mom. Aloha and welcome to the show,

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guys. Today I'm excited to bring on a
guest who has a unique and deep perspective on a topic that's
both intriguing and often misunderstood, Mormonism.
Heidi Love, the host of Unfiltered Rise podcast, joins
us to explore the mystical side of Mormonism and we dive into

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the rich history and founding ofthe faith.
As an ex Mormon, Heidi offers insights that few can, shedding
light on the spiritual and historical elements that have
shaped this religion. Whether you're familiar with
Mormonism, I'm just curious about his origin and deeper
meaning. This episode is sure to be an

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show, consider buying me a coffee or making a small
donation. Every bit helps keep the show
going. Now, without further ado, let's
welcome Heidi to the show. I'm really excited to have you
on today. Your journey from being a part
of the Mormon faith is where where you are now is something

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that I think will resonate with many of our listeners.
It's not just, I think, leaving the religion, but I think it's
the courage to question and to grow and to find your own truth.
And so I can't wait to dig into that part of your story and hear
the challenges that you faced and the wisdom that you gained
along the way. What was the most challenging

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aspect, I guess, of questioning your face?
And when did that become a question to you to question your
faith? I had never questioned my faith
until I got a divorce. I was kind of telling you.
And then, you know, I still went, I still was doing

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everything, but it didn't reallybring the problem into mind.
I just kind of fell backward, like I just didn't do anything
for a while. And then 'cause I was married in
the temple, and that's really serious.
Like when you get married in thetemple, it's for time and all
eternity and it's all this weirdthing.
And I'll show you soon, but it'sin the Mormon faith.
It's like you work it out. You're supposed to work it out.

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You know, it's, it's like even when I told my grandparents,
they were like, no, no, you got to go back.
And I'm like, yeah, no, he keepscheating on me.
Like I'm not going to keep goingback.
I mean, it's weird. And so, but so I had been away
for quite a while and I met my husband and he, I kind of

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mentioned it him, he had got outreally young and he didn't do
all the Mormon temple rights andeverything I got into.
His family is extremely Mormon though.
And he said you need to check some of this stuff out.
And my mom had left the church way before that and became born
again. And she had planted little
seeds, but she was so careful. She was like never abrasive or

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weird with me. Like she just always was like,
well, Jesus loves you no matter what.
Like she was super good about that.
And and if it wasn't for these little seeds and then my husband
showing me, he showed me a Masonic temple ceremony and I
was like, why is this on YouTube?
This is not good. This is like a Mormon, you know,
private thing, and he's like, itisn't, though.
This is a Mason ceremony and I'mlike what, what's a Mason?

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Like? I didn't even know like it.
They don't tell you any of this shit.
Like, it's sorry, I shouldn't cuss.
But they they don't. And it's upsetting because,
like, you are doing far more than masonry, which we'll get
into, but like, it's completely unfair that they do that to
people and tell them, oh, this is about you going to heaven.
But really, we're practicing Solomonic magic.

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Like, there's no way around it. Yeah.
And so I started digging, and I didn't really dig too far.
I just knew that, OK, that's probably not a good idea.
I became born again. And then I let it sit there for
a long time. I became born again.
That was good enough for me. I was just doing Christian mom
stuff like normal, just, you know, normal stuff.

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And then in 2020, I estranged from my oldest.
I didn't. She estranged from us, my oldest
daughter, and she got married tothis guy who's in a banking
family from back East, which is interesting.
And he's a pilot. I think I might have said
something I shouldn't have maybe.
But so anyway Long story short, we were kicked out after meeting

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us three times and of the familycompletely like you just can't
exist in our world type thing. And it really messed with me
like it broke me because she wasso close to me.
She was my oldest. We did everything together.
We were just super close and I just I couldn't figure it out
and like I never I've had a lot of hardship.

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I've had a lot of problems, way serious stuff, but that messed
with me. Like I've never been knocked
down, like where you can't get back up.
And I just reached out to God. I was like, please, like I, I
don't want to kill myself or anything, but I just want to
die, you know, like I was so sadand I just was like praying,

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praying, going into the Bible everyday, everyday journaling.
And I was like, I'll do anythingGod like just help me.
And then he did. And then he called me back on
that, which is why I do a podcast.
So that's kind of what happened in a nutshell.
So. Wow, that's incredible.

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So you were raised in Mormon in Utah?
I live in Utah still. I always bring up that I would
never do anything to myself justin case that comes up ever,
because I do live right here in the heart of Mormonism.
Not to say that they would do that.
I'm just saying they're really affiliated with three letter
agencies and there's multiple three letter agency hubs here.

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And it does make me nervous sometimes.
But I grew up here. My my family were Mormon
settlers. They were polygamists like back,
back. This is like in the olden days.
And you know, even in my DNA sample, it says Mormon settler.
Like you can't even get away from it.
Like it's like there, I'm never going to escape.

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So yeah. I didn't know that was a DNAA
Mormon settler. Yep.
They got it. They got, well, you know, they
are the DNA specialist. Just for fun to know, the
Mormons don't own 23andMe, nor do they own ancestry.com, but
they do own all of the information that pours into both
of those outlets called Mormon search.org.

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And they were the initiators of this process.
They're hugely into genealogy because we'll get into why, but
it, it is a huge thing for Mormons.
And actually my grandma served aMormon mission at home doing
genealogy, just input and stuff all day long.
And they do this, they find their family trees.

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Every Mormon is called to bring their family tree up.
And so like people will know exactly who they're related to.
People will know exactly where they came from.
And so I think that's why the Mormon settler DNA thing is so
easy to identify, because there was only so many people that
came over. So, you know, a lot were Welsh,
a lot of people were Welsh. So I am Welsh, Yeah.

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So. Wow.
So in Hawaii, we have a lot of Mormons here.
They I don't know if they're different.
It seems like there's a lot of different sect of, of Mormons.
Some have the polygamy where a lot of wives, some don't.
So I don't know the difference of all of them.

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But I don't know if the ones in Hawaii are different.
It seemed like the one here, they were reached out from the
Mormons, I guess a long time ago.
A lot of them are Samoan, Samoanpeople.
And I don't understand why a lotof the Samoans are Mormons.

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So strange. And so they have a college here
that bring them young college ison our on our island.
And there's also the Polynesian Cultural Center, which is lot of
Samoan people and other people, of course, Hawaiian and stuff
too. But don't understand why are
they all Mormon? What happened when the Mormons

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reached out to them? And it's like, it's almost the
thing, if you're someone, oh, you're Mormon, Why is that?
I will tell you here in Utah as well, we have a huge Polynesian
community. There's many Samoan and Tongan
people here in Utah and they do have a big stronghold on their
communities as well. And this is the mainstream

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church, not the polygamy people,just the regular Mormons.
They like to go and breach places that are pretty remote.
And they come with a story of like, do you want to be with
your family forever? Well, these are really family
oriented people, including Latinpeople too, you know, like Latin
people, Asian people, Polynesianpeople.

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These are like family oriented people, extended family, not
just like you yourself, family, like their cousins, their aunts,
everybody. And they know that.
And not only that, but actually the Mormon Mafia, what we call
the Mormon Mafia, is highly included in your Polynesian
center, which was started by oneof the members of the Mormon

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Mafia. And I can't remember his name.
I think anyway, he funded it andI can't remember which one.
So I don't want to quote wrong, but go back, watch my episode on
the Mormon Mafia talks all aboutthis.
And he helped actually build andfund that Polynesian center in
the 70s, which came from the money from Las Vegas and from

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the MOP. And like, it's a whole story
with Howard Hughes. It's crazy.
And I know it sounds crazy, but it's true.
And so these people were fundersof all of these movements and
these these people seem unassuming, right?
They seem like if you've ever talked to a Mormon, which you
probably have a white, let's say, not a Polynesian Mormon

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because they probably have theirown sex there, right?
Like they're going to have theirown cultural way on top before.
But if you've talked to like a white Mormon guy, they seem so
nice, so unassuming, so not evenmasculine, no toxic masculinity,
like none of that stuff. They seem super like, nice, just

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nice. That's a good word for it.
And they teach them this. And there's a reason why the
three letter agencies come afterthe Mormon boys and girls
because they are very unassuming.
They do blend in well. They are like, part of, you
know, all this stuff that, you know, you wouldn't think so,
right? You see these people and you're
like, there's no way. Like this guy seems totally

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fine. He seems totally nice.
Yeah. No, you know, he's been quoted
as saying he wasn't a baby cannibal killer.
Like what? And and there's people that this
is a thing for now. Do I think the full Mormon
church is this? No, we were just talking about
this upstairs with my mom and myhusband said, do how many people

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do you really think know and have like this knowledge, this
level that you know, and I'm like maximum 10%, but probably
more like 5. They don't know what they're
doing, which is why I speak out,because they don't know they're
doing Solomonic magic. I didn't know I was doing that.
I didn't know there was masonry involved.
I didn't know any of this. And they don't tell you.

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All they teach is that families can be together forever.
It sounds great on paper. It sounds good, you know, But
they're not going to tell you about invoking spirits in the
temple like this. Stuff gets weird and you know,
the leader and, and actual inventor of this church was
definitely 100% summoning thingswith Solomonic magic.

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And I'll show that today. And you know, this is the first
time I, I've tweaked my presentation to include this.
I knew what it was. I called it masonry, but we're
going to actually call it what it is today and I'm going to
show some slides. And you know what?
I bring receipts. I'm very much like Brandon
Kroll. Love Brandon.

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I bring my receipts just like hedoes because, you know, I don't
like to just say things. I mean, if I tell you something,
it's been well researched, you can go find it yourself.
Yeah. And Speaking of the magic, I had
just spoken to a gentleman namedSesh Hedy, and he he writes

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books or he has a book about Leylines and the magic and the
energy that comes out of these Ley lines.
And he's affiliated with Walter Bosley, which talks about
Disneyland and their Ley lines in Disneyland.
So. So I asked him to look into

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Hawaii's Ley line because obviously I live here.
So he was telling me these Ley lines, these four big Ley lines,
and he said that there is a Ley line that runs through Brigham
Young University and the Polynesian Culture Center.
And I said, wait, wait a minute.I said that is a Mormons, they

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own that. That's the Mormon property.
He's like, I, I'm not surprised.He's like, wow.
He's like, I really would like to get more into that and maybe
look deeper and it into a more detailed map, he said.
But I guarantee you that the people who put Brigham Young and
the people who put the Polynesian Culture Center, they

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knew what they were doing and they put it on that specific
fault or Ley line because it brings out certain energy.
And I'm like, wow, that is crazy.
So, yeah, So what you're saying is true.
It's unbelievable. It, it doesn't surprise me one
single bit. And you know, when we get into

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my presentation, like the thingsI'm going to show you, they're
unquestionable. These go back to historic
documents or court cases or things like this.
Like, I'm not just going to showyou a book and say like, Oh,
well, this guy said so like, no,we're going to get into it.
And, and The thing is, is like, when, when you go through this

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stuff and you know all the answers, then it makes more
sense. Why do they keep it so quiet and
into the very tiny fold of people?
Why do the followers? Why do you not know what you're
doing when you go to a temple toperform Masonry rights, the same
rights King Solomon, by the way,did.
Like these things go back to Solomonic magic.

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And what was King Solomon known for?
Demons, demons and his magical ring and, and like controlling
these things. And I'm sorry, but like that is
that is wild. Like when you get into these
things, even if you can say I don't believe in that, say we're
talking to an atheist. OK, I'm not an atheist.
I luckily didn't end up that waybecause, you know, a lot of

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people that leave Mormonism do because they feel like
everything's a lie. And I get it.
Like it's sad, it's not God thatdid you wrong.
It's man that did you wrong. You know, so remember this as,
you know, part of my talk, because I so think it's
important that we don't blame God for man.

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He didn't do it. Like this is all been
constructed and and actually forcefully done by, you know,
summoning things honestly. And, and it is not only
Mormonism, this story that I'm going to tell you is, you know,
multiple other religions. And when I get into that, I'll

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tell you. But I just think it's so
important that we know, even if we don't believe what they
believe, right? Because it doesn't surprise me
that they would do something like that.
It doesn't surprise me that they're harnessing energy.
Why would they have people ignorant performing rights?
That doesn't make any sense, right?
Everything's about intention. So why are they doing that?

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It's all about harnessing. This is a big loose harnessing,
OK, And when we get into it, I'll explain to you like it has
to do with necromancy too. I don't think that the president
and prophet and seer and revelator of the current Mormon
mainstream church, we're not even go to going to go to FLDS
today unless you have a lot of time.

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But I have a lot of knowledge about it.
My sister married Warren Jeffs nephew.
Like there's a whole thing thereand that's the leader of the
FLDS, one of the branches. There's so many, there's just so
many branched off. But we're going to talk about
the mainstream, which is the people that they always say,
well, that's just some crazy cult over there, Not the

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mainstream Mormons. The mainstream Mormons are good
guys. They they wear suits, They look
normal. OK, well, I'm going to show you
today. Not so much, you know, and and
people can say what they want. They can shake their fingers.
I'll tell you something. Go find one thing after my
presentation that I lied about because there's nothing.

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I mean, these people are being tricked.
They're being told something that has nothing to do with God.
And I actually challenged that possibly they're worshipping
another entity, not, you know, they call it Mormon Jesus.
You know my bets on hello. But as far as who they worship

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as as Jesus, but not only one deity is worshipped for sure.
There's multiple deities here and one of them is the Braxis
who very rarely gets talked about and you know it.
It's got a direct link to JosephSmith's mom.
Joseph Smith's great grandpa, just for fun, will do this.
His dad, he was Joseph Smith Junior and his dad was Joseph

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Smith senior. But that dad of him is Ozil, not
as Hazel, but damn close. And, you know, you just can't
help but go what? Like that's not even on his
mom's side where the Scottish stuff comes from.
That's on his dad's side, so. So I don't know much about

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Mormons. I know that they have the 18
year old boys that go out. For me to maybe 2 years to go
out somewheres wherever they're assigned and preach, try to
knock on doors, right? And I know that I spoke to them

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when I was younger, when I was probably 18 or 19.
And so the kids were the boys are talking to me here in Hawaii
and they were living in a beautiful apartment complex by
the way, here. And I guess you guys must fund
that or not you got. But the Mormons themselves with
their monies funded that that that's expensive apartment that

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these boys were living in. But the church does.
Get 10% of tithing from every single member family.
So if it's a two person family, it's your full income.
OK, there's no messing around with this.
This isn't like you said so because you said so.
No, there's something called tithing settlement after your
taxes are done that you go sit in an office and you bring your

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taxes and you show them exactly how much money you made and they
want the gross, not the net. You don't even get like part of
that. Like that's net like they, they
are getting it on the gross. And so if you are short, if you
come up short because you can't pay it or whatever, then they're
going to not let you go to the temple.

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They're going to take your recommend away.
They're going to kind of put youon a little bit of a suspension.
And while this happens to earn your way back into Grace's, you
can work off that deficit by becoming a janitor and scrubbing
toilets. Which I did.
Yeah, because I had cancer and couldn't pay it.
So what? Yeah.

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Oh no, that's awful. And is this for all Mormons?
The regular Mormons. Every Mormon, every Mormon and
the people that are on the top level, I promise you, check
their taxes. They're not chumps.
They're not like lower end levelpeople.
They make enough money where their contribution is extensive.

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And that's, you know, they're, they're not the richest, one of
the richest churches for nothing.
Their top 10 holdings. One of them is Tesla.
One of them is United Health. I wonder why they pushed that
little thing that came out in 2020 so hard.
Because they did. One of them is, you know, Elon

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Musk's main right hand man. His financial guy is Jared
Burchall. He's a Mormon.
He's a devout Mormon. These, these holdings, you know,
people can go look, Apple is 1. They're very into transhumanism,
like approach, like, and then you wonder why go look at their
holdings, Go look at their stakeholdings.

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Yeah. That's so strange, but is Elon
Musk a Mormon? He is not on paper now, but
he'll tell you. I I mean, he has 11 kids, right?
Or 14 or something. I don't even know any.
I don't know. What I mean, that's Mormon as
heck, but like, I'll tell you, you know, his main dude is a
Mormon and and it makes you wonder because the same thing

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happened with Howard Hughes. His main people were Mormons and
Howard. Hughes.
Howard Hughes, the movie star and he built Las Vegas.
That story is crazy wild. So that one's a really good one
to look into to see where the money went from there.
Because it didn't die. If it was just Howard Hughes,
then it would be over with. No, no, this one into the Mormon

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Mafia who then built out. When I say mafia, I don't mean
like mob, like as in the sense that we think mob, I mean money
mob. I mean they control things.
I mean very wealthy, rich and powerful men that built
Polynesian centers that did certain things that put their
money where their mouths were. And, you know, they just happen

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to be top top in the church too.I wonder why?
I spoke to this lady, her name is Jesse.
Her Her episode is not out yet, but she was a satanic ritual
abuse survivor. Yes, you know her.
I haven't had her on yet, but I would love to, yeah.
Yes. So she said there's five top

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religions in the world and Mormon is one of them.
And when she told me that this was a few weeks back, I'm like
Mormon, she said. Yes, unbelievable.
Do they do traffic child trafficking or human trafficking
that you know of? I mean, definitely not that I
know of, but I will tell you, I mean, like if you look at the
Tim Ballard case, it gets so Operation Underground Railroad

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when that movie came out, Sound of Freedom, it's it's fake.
It was heavily funded by the church.
It's funded by the church holdings.
It's funded by a church media program.
It's funded in general. But Tim Ballard is accused, of
course, accused by many women ofthe R word in these trafficking

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things that he was doing and they were affected.
And he is currently being taken to court for those things.
Now, of course, it's just an accusation, but it's very
interesting. I would definitely go look that
up. And the church's hands are all
over it, clear up to a top, top person.
And he passed away. Luckily for him, he did Russell

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and Ballard, and I will say his name because he's passed away.
So if you look at those ties, I mean, the church's hands are
literally in everything. Like at the end of every single
thing I go to, I'm like, good grief.
Like I had no idea financial wise until I started getting
into a different side of this because my main focus was not

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there. My main focus was on the occult
infiltration of this whole situation.
And and that was me just yellingout because I feel like so many
people are misled and and they're happy to be.
So if I go tell this to my in laws who are extremely Mormon
still, they're not going to talkto me.
You know, if I try to talk to them, they they don't want to

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hear this and they don't. They're told not to.
They're told not to listen to this anyway, so.
And if I'm right, So what? They don't care, you know, So
power follow power, follow money.
You'll always get your answer. And that's a bad thing.
So I believe Jesse, you know, I I interviewed Nathan Reynolds,

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also an SRA survivor. He speaks out.
Mormons came up like, it's just every time.
Yeah, that episode's coming. And I'm just like, OK, what's
happening here? You know, it's, I mean it, it
goes clear up to the top of the church and our current, I say

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our and my like all these thingsall the time because I was a
Mormon for so long. I'm not affiliated or a Mormon
anymore. In fact, I don't, I don't go to
any church. Fool me once.
Like I'm over it. Like I got the Bible.
I'm on my way myself, you know, like forget it.
And people kind of shame me for that sometimes.
But I'm like, no, you don't understand out here, you know?

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It's 90% they never walked your shoes.
You know they they have no clue.Yep, and I I mean I'm just like
me and the Bible, like that's what I'm going to go to because
I mean I'll read extra canonicalbooks as well to study things.
I have to read a lot of books that I don't want to study, to
be quite frank, things I never thought in a million years I

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would need to know, but God was like, guess what you're going to
do? Remember that favor that you
asked me for? Like I came through for you,
like help me out here. And I'm like, I don't want to
read this. This is scary.
You know, my mom was freaking out.
She's like, I just, I started doing Aleister Crowley and
scary. I'm like, because it like goes
with it. And she's like, no.

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And I mean, I get where she's coming from, but like when
you're LED, you know, I don't know what you do with that.
And luckily I did because I would have not known anything.
And I'll explain it all on this presentation.
Like I didn't know anything. I was so naive.
I was just like everybody else here.

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I was just a sheep and I was following and I woke up in 2020
with that whole thing with my daughter.
I didn't just wake up on that. I woke up on every, like every.
It only takes one thing. Then you fall down the mountain,
right? Like you're like, what's
happening? And you break all your legs and
stuff. And then you're like, whoa, you
know, you wake up and you're like, no, I'm not doing that.

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I'm not doing this. I'm not doing any of that.
I'm a nurse. I'm also not doing that.
I'm not giving that. I'm not taking that.
I'm not doing that. And they were like, Oh my gosh,
this lady's crazy. And that's fine.
You know, I don't regret it, that's for sure.
So you're a nurse as well? I am a nurse, yes, I'm a

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registered nurse and I currentlywork in mental Health Care now
because my brother died. Yeah, I, my brother died of
accidental overdose about 7 years ago.
And it's OK. No, no, it's OK because This is
why I called my podcast Unfiltered, because it's a
warning and rise because you canrise above anything.
Like the problems I have had that in my life are extensive.

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They're probably one thing in mylife most people would have in
their whole lives. But I've got like boom, boom,
boom, boom. It just keeps going and I'm
like, OK, you know, And every time I get up and dust off
because I know that laying down or crying about it or getting on
drugs or whatever the case may be is not going to help me grow.
You can rise above anything. I'm not saying you don't mourn.

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I'm not saying you don't have a problem with it.
I'm not none of that. I'm not discounting anything,
but you have to come up out of it.
You have to come out of it. And you know, and if we all
shared, right, like we would, I mean, I don't have my shit all
together. Like here it all is.
That's why it's unfiltered. Like you wanna see, there it is.
But you know, you can do something with this.

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My dad went to prison when I wasa kid.
I mean, I was awarded the court by 12.
I had really like, a staunch Mormon grandma, but my grandpa
was a sundowner and A1 percenterand like in this motorcycle gang
with my uncles and crazy stuff and like, just crazy life, you
know, got married at 17 because I was like, well, I mean, can't

(30:24):
be worse than what's happening here.
So, you know, we'll just move onwith our life.
And, you know, I've had, you know, problems with my kids.
Like I mentioned the 1:00 and all these things like cancer and
all this stuff. I had thyroid cancer at 37.
I beat that. I blew my back and totally had
to have. I had osteomyelitis inside my

(30:46):
spine and I almost died two years ago and I had to have a
pic line in my heart. Like I seriously was really
sick, sicker than the cancer. And and I beat that, you know,
and everybody's always like, this stuff sounds fake.
Like this doesn't sound I'm like, I know, right?
Like that's why I do a podcast, you know?

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And then my brother died, my daddied and all these people start
dying everywhere around me. And it was just so hard.
But like, you can do it. You can help and you can help
somebody else. If you talk about it and don't
sit home in your own sadness. You can help somebody else and
it will help you. It helps you too, you know, and

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God can shine through a broken vessel like I'm just a broken
person trying to help broken people.
And that's, you know, that's what I want to do.
So your brother, what did he overdose on?
He had an accidental overdose ofmulti combination drugs.

(31:48):
He was addicted to opiates and he got addicted because he had a
legit reason. You know, there's, there's
always something that is, it canget people right.
Like whether it's opiates or alcohol or anything like that,
it doesn't matter what it is really.
It's your crutch, you know, and,and he had been a Gulf War

(32:08):
participant. He'd been in the burn pits and
done all this horrible stuff he had to deal with.
And plus our childhood, right? Like this whole childhood.
And my mom was really beaten horribly, like, and we witnessed
all this stuff, you know, and when he would talk to me about
his trauma. And this is same for veterans
that I take care of now. It isn't the war that gets them.

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It's the unfixed home stuff fromyour childhood that gets them
first. Yes, the war set it off, but
like there's usually something that happened before that and
you go, how did you can't put itin a box, as much as we would
love to, you can do it for a little while.
I promise you one day you're going to have like the
jack-in-the-box pop up and it and that's exactly how it feels.

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You know, you know, you're not prepared and you have to work
through all these things. But he didn't.
And instead he just, you know, was trying to put it back in the
box, put it back in the box. And he he told me I've tried all
kinds of drugs. Nothing has gotten me ever until
this. I, I, I wasn't prepared, you
know, And it's sad because he was 37.

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It destroyed my mom. His daughter found him.
She was 12. Her, her beyond belief.
His ex-wife still loved him. She killed herself a year later.
Like, I mean, it is when you think of yourself, like if you
were in that position as a person and you are like, nobody

(33:39):
cares about me. I promise you there will be 20
people's lives affected by your death.
I can swear and promise you that's true.
And so before you do anything or, you know, get to that level,
think about those words because it's just the truth.
Yeah. So it's.
OK, yeah, we're, we're, we're handling it.

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I mean, you know, my kids went through a lot that year.
They lost their stepmoms about 3weeks before my brother died,
their stepmom suddenly died. I think she threw a clot because
she was super young. She was wonderful.
Like she was the nicest lady. And you know, it's just, it was
a lot my by the time my grandma died at the end of that year,

(34:21):
because we've had like 5 deaths,I think I was like, well, she
wanted to be with my grandpa andshe was old, so it's OK.
We weren't even, we weren't eventhat sad because we were like, I
mean, all right, you know, and sometimes life is like that.
You know, sometimes you get kicked a lot and, and that just
happens. Like I've been kicked more than

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my fair share. But, and that would be easy to
just blame a lot of things on and go lay down and crap.
I like it. But that's just not something, I
mean, I cry sometimes, but like,staying in that situation, it's
not going to help you, you know,we've got to work through it.
And then after all that, during the middle of COVID, you find

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out you have cancer. I had had that right before.
So I had, I had had that at 37 and then so that would have been
a few years before that I had thyroid cancer and they had to
do a radical removal of my complete thyroid and radiate me.
And that was like really a lot to deal with.

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And then you know, I got better.But the back thing knocked me
down pretty good. It was after 20/20.
It was 2022. And that that is still a chronic
thing because I mean, it just didn't work out the way it was
supposed to. He put glue in my back and I'm
definitely allergic to glue and it's on every paper ever.

(35:48):
And you can't sue him by the way.
So he ruined my life. And if he ever sees this, I hope
he feels bad about it because hegot he got away with it.
And I don't know how that's possible, but that that's
possible. So.
How did he put glue in your back?
He just did it anyway. My whole chart said allergic to

(36:08):
glue. Surgical glue, Definitely
allergic. He just did it anyway.
I was like, dude, I'm allergic, you know, and it was also got
infected and he ignored the infection for five weeks.
And even though I'm a registerednurse for 25 years, I'm like,
hey, this is infected. Like give me some antibiotics.
And he's like, no, no, it's justthe, it's just the irritation,

(36:30):
irritation from the glue that you weren't supposed to put in
my back. And so by the time I went in and
threw a fit basically in the emergency room, freaking out
because I was on like a level 9 pain.
And I've had a baby on my livingroom floor.
So I know what that is. I know what level 9 is.
And I was like, something is desperately wrong back there.

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And I had 1200 CCS of infection in my spine.
Oh. My gosh.
Had to be hospitalized and for over a week and three surgeries
and just draining it and all this crazy stuff and the PICC
line 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
It never came off ever for threemonths.
Because osteomyelitis is really serious and a lot of people die

(37:15):
from it. And I guess I'm just too
stubborn. I'm not really.
Sure, but that's a good thing. That's a good thing.
Oh my God. Yeah, and I still took my kids
to the amusement park with my IVin my arm.
Like, I didn't ride the rides. I just took my kids because they

(37:35):
deserve to have a normal life. But my son did make fun of me.
He was like, he's 16. Then he said yeah, because I had
to take stuff to flush it. And he's like, totally normal
shooting up at the amusement park mom.
And I was like, whatever, it's salt water.
I got to flush it, You know, he's like, this looks crazy.
I'm like are you having fun or not like?

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It's fine and. He just was like, Oh my gosh,
yeah. Teenagers, yeah.
But my daughter was very happy, yeah.
Yeah, I bet. Yeah.
Well, I would love to get into your slides.
Absolutely. So I'm going to share my.
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So I didn't know and part of healing what you do if you have
a spiritual problem, right? Like I started listening to a
lot of Derek Prince. I started learning about like

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demonic strongholds or John Ramirez.
And I don't care who you listen to.
That's fine. You don't have to like them or
whatever because people have commented about that and you can
think what you want. But biblically speaking, we know
that there are strongholds on bloodlines.
Biblically speaking, we know we put some strongholds on our
bloodlines and we know that there are things that can do
that to you. So I wanted to know like what,

(39:22):
what do I need to resolve in my life?
That's where this journey came from.
Because I, I wanted to know, I, I was doing all this weird stuff
and didn't know what the heck was going on.
So This is why I started even looking into this.
I was like, OK, show me, show mewhat I did wrong.
Show me what I did. So we can't go forward to what I

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did until we find out what the heck Mormonism is.
And this is a picture of Joseph Smith.
He his story. Now I will say this is one of
five stories, so put that in your hat with a grain of salt.
But there are five stories of this account of him receiving an
answer because he said God. What church should I join?

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And then he went into the woods and prayed because he read the
scripture that said, let him askof God if you don't know
something, and he'll give you the answer, which is true.
And he got an answer, but he wasovercome with a fit of darkness
first, which is very strange. And these beings popped up and
they were God the Father and theSon.

(40:28):
OK, you notice there's two apparitions there in Mormonism.
They do not believe in the Trinity, so they believe the
Holy Spirit, God the Father and the Son are all separate
entities. And so they they are separate
people. And they came to talk to Joseph
and they were talking to him about an Angel that he was going
to be visited by named Moroni. A lot of people call him Moroni.

(40:52):
It's Moroni. But the Angel Moroni came to
Joseph and he was an exceedinglywhite Native American, which
makes me laugh. I'm like, really?
OK, which is whatever, but he's an Angel supposedly, but
actually can't be an Angel because he was alive once.
So that makes him a spirit, which means, I mean, if you're

(41:16):
talking to dead people, it's probably a problem.
But that's fine. We'll just go with the fact that
this Angel comes and says, hey, there's these golden plates in
this heel by you and you know it.
It's going to be a book of, of this America of our history,
just like the Bible is the history of the people there.

(41:37):
This is a history of these people, this, this tribe here,
these Nephites and Lamanites. And this is their story.
So you're going to translate it.And for years upon years, I, I
thought that he translated this book.
This is on top of most Mormon temples.
Moroni, that's the Angel Moroni.And I thought he translated it

(42:00):
like by writing it down. But we're going to, we're going
to get to the point where I'll show you that's really not what
happened. Also, we have to kind of examine
Joseph's home life to understandhim.
His mother, Lucy Mac Smith, wrote this manuscript.
This is from the Church History Museum Library.
I didn't write this. This is their information, not

(42:21):
mine. And also, I, I think it's really
important to let people know shewas a Scottish background.
And so also, I told you about Joseph's great grandpa on his
dad's side being named Azael, not as evil, but super close,
super strange. And this family was known to be
a magical family, OK. His mother was a healer.

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She was a known healer in the area.
And I'm not, I'm not saying that's bad, I'm not, It's fine.
But like, this part gets a little interesting.
So she's writing this letter to someone, OK, to a friend of
hers. So she says, let not my reader
suppose that because I shall pursue another topic for a
season that we stopped our laborers and went at trying to

(43:08):
win the faculty of a BRAC just drawing magic circles or Sue
saying to the neglect of all kinds of business.
OK, so she's basically saying we're not lazy.
We're not just drawing magic circles and doing treasure
hunting. We're doing other stuff too,
because we never endeavored to remember the service and welfare

(43:30):
of our souls. So she's like saying, OK, we're
still doing our stuff. Like, don't come at me because
they were known to be kind of lazy.
But that's interesting what she said, right?
Like the part that I caught at the faculty of a Brack and I was
like, what does that mean? That sounds SUS.
And I found out what that meant.The faculty of a BRAC is related

(43:54):
to Abraxas and it's a God. Chicken snake God, a lot of
people call it. This is just one picture, but
this is a known God. Many people worshipped back in
the day. They even had rings like
Abraxas, rings and medallions and all these things for
Abraxas. So I mean, it's fine, I guess,

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if you're a polytheist, it's notso good if you're supposed to
only be about like Christianity.So already we can see that this
family wasn't like just a staunch Christian family, right?
And so this right here is the spectacles that Joseph
supposedly translated the Book of Mormon with.

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And this is the story I was toldas a kid right here.
So it depicts him with the breastplate of righteousness,
and these spectacles are attached to it that the that the
Angel himself gave to him. But don't worry, you cannot see
them because the Angel had them come and get them back.
He needed them for whatever reason.
Angels need them back. So there's no proof of any of

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this. OK, But it goes further than
that. A lot of people just say he's a
big fat liar. He was high on mushrooms,
whatever. They say this whole big thing
about Joseph. And I don't believe any of that,
actually. This is the truth about how the
book was translated. This is what led me down a

(45:19):
pathway of occultism that I never thought I would ever, ever
be in. OK, Like ever.
I had no fascination with the Cole.
I never wanted to read about theCole.
I didn't care. But I did want to know what I
did in Mormonism. And so hence forth I went
forward, and this is Joseph withhis magical seer stone and his

(45:44):
hat. He would put it in the hat and
block out all the light like that last picture.
And somebody else would write down characters.
Now these weren't words, these were characters that they would
write down. And he would do this in private.
And supposedly nobody hardly ever saw these plates.

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Few people. There's back and forth, some
people say they never saw it, but then there's descriptions
that they say they saw it. Martin Harris, If you've ever
seen South Park, have you seen the South Park on Mormons?
No. You've got to watch it after
this, you'll laugh. So Google it up guys.
It's on pieces and parts on TikTok because probably the
Mormons took it down. But it's true.

(46:30):
It's like a really quick rendition and I should just put
it in here because it's. So you should.
Yeah, and, and it's true what hesays.
So anyways, that whole story's true.
I have not found anything that wasn't true on it.
So you guys can watch that for aquick little gist of it.
But this is the truth about Mormonism.
Now, remember, I'm 48 this year.This was not what I was told we

(46:52):
were doing the book thing, OK. But the glasses on the
breastplate still very Kabbalistic, if you know
anything about the Kabbalah. But this is the current
president of the church. He's 100 years old.
Speaking of loose grabbing Russell and Nelson.
And he took this hat out and allof us dropped our tea.

(47:16):
Like we don't drink tea, but butwe dropped our Diet Coke or
whatever. And they they brought this out
from like the deep depths of theunderground tunnels of Mormons.
They have like safes. And that's a real thing.
Like there's a that's a whole other story.
But anyway, he brings it out andwe're all like, this is true.

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Like we all saw the South Park and we were like, that's such a
lie. Oh my gosh, Can you believe
that? They wrote that?
That's so stupid. That's anti Mormon and it never
happened like that. And Joseph had the Urim and
thummim and blah blah blah blah blah.
OK, so we get to now and he busts out the hat and they're
like what's up? We got rocks right?

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So I was like what the hell likethis is real like cuz we knew
from South Park but like I neverknew.
And so he found this rock while digging a 20 something foot well
on his property and Joseph askedto borrow it and then he never
gave it back. So Mormonism is literally built
upon a stolen rock, which is hilarious.

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But also you have to understand.This led me to somewhere strange
here in a minute because and I was like, well, what?
What kind of rock tell you that doesn't make any sense, you
know? And he was known as a seer
prophet and revelator. So is the prophet today.
They believe that whoever is theprophet is actually talked to

(48:40):
and given divine knowledge by God and that God literally
speaks to them. And that's how like the whole
letting black people into the church came about because it
just happened to be 1978. No, I think it was 1980.
It was right in that era. And they were like, well, we

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prayed about it and God told us to stop it.
So I'm like, why would any brownperson ever join the church?
My niece is black. If she ever joined the church, I
would freak out. Freak out the way they treated
them. It's it's bad.
So yeah, people that are brown or black, you need to look into
this and and probably not support the crap that you're in

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because it's sad. So anyway, Joseph has these
rocks, multiple seer stones. These are three, I think total
they had five. So he is known as a prophet,
seer and revelator. And he's also known at birth to
be born in a call, which means to be born inside your sack,

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which is super rare even to thisday, like with it sealed, like
not not broken. And so his dad was bragging
about Joseph even at his very birth, like, oh, this is he's
going to be a seer. He's going to be a seer.
So that's also really important.So this is an actual rendition

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from a court case where these guys got in trouble because they
were treasure digging, and that's what they're doing here.
This is actually, like made at alater time from Willard Chase's
statement of what the heck they were doing out in the dark, OK,
at 3:00 in the morning, slicing a black goat's throat and

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letting it bleed all over this thing.
I'm sorry. That's not normal.
And also, if you look at these symbols, they're going to come
into play soon. So he said that the dad drew the
symbols in the ground with a sword and that they let the
animal bleed all around it. So just keep that in your pocket
for a minute. All right, so this is Joseph

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Smith family's magical relics. This is the actual picture of
it. And I don't know who owns this
anymore. I don't think we'll ever see
them if they were owned by the RLDS, which is the reformed LDS
people. They just sold their temple to
Elon Musk in 2022 and then the Mormon church bought it in 2024,

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probably from Elon. I don't know if it included
these documents or not, but we luckily have a photo.
So this is another photo just showing that this is what they
are in this relics because I didn't make this up.
Holiness to the Lord. Parchment we're going to get
into. Can you see that?
OK. Yes.

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OK, so do you know anything about Solomonic magic or the
greater and lesser keys of Solomon?
No. I'm going to talk to you about
it today because it's going to come into major play with this
last thing here. This is actually a sigil and it

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has a ton of markings on it. And we're we're going to go
through them here in a minute. But but also, you have to
remember Joseph Smith was supposedly a poor farmer, an
unlearned man, a man that could barely write, even though his
brother went to Dartmouth. Oh, by the way, he was a Mason.
He was a known master Mason and his brother's name was Hiram,

(52:18):
like Hiram Abiff. So if you know anything about
Masonry, you just had a giggle because that's like their whole
still. And so his brother was a Mason.
His dad was amazing. They're they're a Masonic
family, so it's fine. So that's going to be important.
And remember, he's supposed to be totally unlearned.
Yet what do we say at the bottomwhere this stuff came from?

(52:42):
Francis Barrett's magus. Anybody in the witchcraft or a
cult world is going to go Ding, Ding, Ding right now.
Sibley's occult sciences, like that's also a witchcraft book.
You know, there, there's all kinds, you know, the Lieber
officials, Spiritum. Yeah, that doesn't sound right.
And the Discovery of Witchcraft by Reginald Scott.

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And so these books are not something an unloaded guy would
have, right. And remember, his mom's supposed
to be a healer, you know? And so he got typhoid fever when
he was a kid, and he almost losthis leg and he was sick for a
long time. So if he's sick and in the house

(53:26):
and can't work like everybody else, who are you going to spend
the most time with? Your mom, right?
Yeah. She's teaching him stuff on the
side. Plus his brothers in college at
this time at Dartmouth people that yes, it's the Dartmouth
Indian College part because he was like going at that portion

(53:47):
for some reason. But I'm just saying it's still
Dartmouth. Let's get real.
Let's Dartmouth. Oh, Dartmouth is like yell.
It's like, yeah, it's like Harvard.
It's like a huge fancy college. So I'm like, yeah, unlearned my
butt. OK.
But like, let's get real. He he knew some things.
And what would you bring home for your brother if he's stuck

(54:09):
on a couch or in a bed or whatever, healing forever
because they literally had to dolike straight up surgery on his
leg. And and the physicians that came
to save his leg by the way, his mom summoned from Harvard, like
the how, how unknown of a personis she to be like, hey, Harvard
doctors, you come here. No, no.

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So she did the right thing. She actually begged them not to
cut his leg off because I mean, that's like a death sentence
back then. Like, that's horrible, you know?
And she said, can you just please remove the infected bone,
which actually is the proper thing to do.
But it took him years to get over, and he had a limp and
everything for the rest of his life.
So he spent a lot of time down. I don't know if you know this,

(54:53):
but JFK, same thing. He was sick when he was a kid.
And guess what? He became an extra learned guy.
He read a lot. Smart guy.
OK, you're going to bring home books for your brother.
Like if they have nothing else to do, you can only read the
Bible so many times, you know? I'm sure he read that.
Too. Yeah, I'm sure he did because
it's plagiarized a lot, but. Well, how does typhoid fever

(55:17):
connect with his leg? It can go systemic and so it
went systemic with him and he got super sick and and so it's
important just to know that background on him and he did
recover and and he made a full recovery except the limp.
But I think it's really important to know that he was
definitely had downtime. You know, he could do anything.

(55:39):
And so then this is really important.
This is something that he alwayswore.
This is called a Jupiter Talisman.
They call it the Jupiter Talisman because these these
markings on here are I didn't know what they were necessarily
before. I did know that they look like
Enochian magic, but they're not they're Solomonic magic.

(56:02):
And I'll, I'll show you why I know that because here, see,
look at this right here. And then I'll go back again and
I'll blow it up. There you go.
See that? Yeah.
It's it's like identical. So whoops.
And then so that's really important to know because it

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proves that he definitely read and was familiar with the lesser
and greater keys of Solomon. And these are books that are
just not Christian, OK? Like they're magical books.
And I mean, I don't know what else to say about that.
Like, that's just what it is. And so I mean, it's very much

(56:47):
identical. It has, it's talking about, you
know, it's going to protect those who invoke it and cause
the spirits to come when they appear and show them this
pentacle And and they shouldn't be able to attack you, OK?
And they'll immediately obey. Obey is the word.
See Jehovah's name in there? Oh, yeah, yeah.

(57:08):
But you kind of wonder like, exactly how they tie that all
together, right. So the names of Adonai is also
in there and there is a Psalms in there.
And of course they mix it together, you know, because King
Solomon wasn't totally evil. Like he just wasn't.
And so he was, he was still, youknow, goddess.

(57:28):
We like to mess with demons. Yeah.
Yeah, with his wives, right, Allhis wives.
Yeah, yeah, Yep, they were into this.
And then these two sigils are onthat first page that I showed
you guys and you can go back andlike compare them side by side.
But these are on that holiness to the Lord parchment and it
says who so beareth this about Him?

(57:51):
All spirits shall have to pay him homage.
OK, so this is on that parchmentthat he has this one and this
one, they're both are. And this one says he shall not
have to fear anyone but God. And so I'll go back really
quick. So you can see too, I need to
make a side by side, but I barely added these today.

(58:11):
So those two circle wheels. And it's important to know
whenever anything is in a seal like that, it is a closed spirit
type communication. But if it's open and it's out,
then it's, it's a direct and, and they are like working with
those spirits. And this one is Raphael and it

(58:34):
doesn't have a seal around it, right?
Because if you have a seal, you're kind of controlling them.
You know, you're, you're imprisoning them, so to speak,
but if it's open, you're workingwith them, like literally
working with them. And then so it's got multiple,
we're going to run into multipledifferent spirits.

(58:55):
Yeah. Jubanla dance or days.
I'm not sure how to pronounce that.
But anyways, the one of these symbols led me to John.
DI had no idea who John D was, nor did I care.
I'll tell you like I didn't careabout any of this.
You know, like people that are fascinated with this all their

(59:15):
lives like I do now, but not before.
And so I was like, what is this symbol?
What is this? I was trying to figure it out
before I figured it out. And I looked it up and the only
place that Juban Ladase is is sighted said something about
this guy named John D. And I'm like, who the Hell's
that? Like what?

(59:36):
It's like a never ending rabbit hole of a cultism.
So I'm like, OK, I guess I'll look this guy up, right.
And I became really like, reallydived in, dove into his stuff
and he actually does Enochian magic, which is a little bit
different, but also what happens, right?
He he summoned spirits. And do you know the story about

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John D? No.
OK, let me tell you. OK, so he also.
Was hearing from God and he alsowas getting messages from
angels. And he was doing workings with
this guy named Edward Kelly. And funny enough, he would use a
black scrying mirror, which was actually not a mirror, it was

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Obsidian, a stone, and they would block out all the light.
Sound familiar? And the guy would say these
symbols and they would write them down and that became a
book. Does that sound really familiar?
Yes. So yeah.
So also funny enough, Muhammad would travel out in the

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wilderness. He had scribes that went with
him, but they weren't scribes. They like memorized everything
because they were non written people.
But eventually they did write this down.
But he would have fits of darkness come over him and he
would wake up and say things andthey would memorize them.
And it became a book because also he was having angels speak
to him. And what happens?
It becomes a religion. So does this.

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So does let's do a fun one. Let's do Crawley.
Crawley didn't have to see an Angel because he didn't care
about angels, but he sure enoughdid see an alien, right?
And so we get the book of the law because he saw an alien
quote UN quote alien and and he writes a book and it becomes the
book of the law, which becomes the Lima, which becomes a

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religion. We can do L Ron Hubbard and Jack
Parsons doing Babylon workings out in the desert.
We don't want to talk about whatthey were doing because it was
gross, But all of these people had some price to pay.
It never whenever God is workingin your life, he he's not going
to say, Hey, John D let Edward Kelly bang your wife and then he

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she's going to get knocked up with a kid and you have to raise
it the rest of your life and youguys switch wives and all this
stuff. And that sounds like a great
plan because the Angel said to do that.
Does that sound angelic? I don't think it does like.
No. Yeah, I think at that point he
was all in. He did these workings for eight
years and he is the one where weget the Enochian alphabet from.

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And so yes, he was the one that came up.
Well, he didn't come up with it.He just wrote it down and they
told him this, these angels toldhim this.
And it is actually an alphabet that that stands the test of
time. Like it's still to this day an
actual language that you can useto communicate.
So and he really made that up. Like Edward Kelly was the scribe

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because he was like super brainiac smart and he couldn't
like relax enough to communicate.
So they, the other guy did it and he wrote the stuff down.
But like, I'm sorry, it wouldn'tlast, you know, if it if it
wasn't like you're telling me this guy that got his ears cut
off for being a swindler and he's just this chump guy made-up

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a whole language. No, no, IA 100% believe in
things that we can't see. And if you don't, that's OK, you
know. But I'm telling you, these
people did things that they would never do.
Like, John Dee was a really pious man.
He would not just share his wife.

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In fact, his wife hated Edward Kelly and she will want nothing
to do with it. And also, John Dee didn't want
to do it. And they still did it over and
over. These people were tested and
tried and they were like, given impossible things.
And even one time Edward Kelly talked to the angels about like,
hey, we need some money because like, you want us to do these
books and we're broke. And they were like, no.

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And plus, you guys stink and youneed to start taking more
showers and you need to get married.
And then he came back married and they were like, why are you
married? And he's like, what?
I hate her like I hate my wife. Why did you make me get married
if you don't want me married? And they would mess with them
like this all the time. That's not God.
Like no. And then, yeah, Jack Parsons,

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what happens to him? Oh, L Ron Hubbard steals his
chick after this. And then he blows himself up.
Like, that doesn't sound like a good time, right?
Like what? And then on top of it, like,
you've got Mormonism with polygamy.
You've got Muhammad with the little kids.
And I'm sorry, but he had a wifethat was like, 6, and they made

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that sealed that deal at 8. Apparently.
Now they say she had precocious puberty and then it was all good
to go. I'm just saying like, and also a
polygamy. Every single one of them have
some price to pay, right? Like some sexual sin.
Really. It's sex, it's sex magic.
And so when I ran into that and then put it all together with

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everything, I was like, what theheck is going on here?
So I didn't put together the Solomonic end of it until later.
But when I run into this, this is like 110% like this is like,
I mean, it's the same thing. It's not, it's not like it's a
little the same. No, it's, it's like a replica.
And so so are these. And so, you know, when you get

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into the keys of Solomon, like Isaid, you can do whatever you
want. I'm not against people that want
to mess with this stuff. Go ahead, do it.
But you know what? You can't lie to good God
fearing people and tell them, hey, this is about you going to
heaven. No, that's wrong.
That's wrong. That's why I speak out.

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And these are some of the other characters on there on that same
sheet. And there's more angels on here,
you know, like Pale Paw who protects virgins from
debauchery. And and then there's the Jew
Bamble dance. And then there's all these
different ones, like I've got them on here so that people can
do their own research. They can these directly came off

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of that, that sigil. So again, Jupiter, he's super
into Jupiter and and the power that Jupiter holds, you know,
and all of this stuff, all of these are on here, Raphael, all
of these. So again, here's another from

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the actual occult sciences book about Jubanlodance.
And and so it talks about what is he over?
He's the appointed guardian of all public and national
enterprises. Put that together with what
Jesse said and tell me that that's not still happening.

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Bull. Yeah.
And then this is from. Sorry, this is from your books.
This is actually from the OccultSciences Ebenezer Sibley book,
which was published clear back in 18 O 7.
And. That this directly this Insignia
comes off of these parchments that I'm showing you that that

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he actually had in his presence at death.
They tried to blame it on the brother, but I'll tell you why
that's bull crap in a minute. And it says you wear as a layman
around the neck, like that picture that I showed with the
little pouch around the neck. And he had one of those pouches
and they were inside that pouch.And so I also thought it was

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hysterical. Today when I went to go download
the Greater Greater Keys of Solomon.
I got it on US archive.org. It's free, but look who, look
who digitized it for us. Oh, thank you, Brigham Young
University. Oh my God.
Thanks. You keep going down these rabbit

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holes. Wow, it's big.
And this is also one of the pentacles found in the Seal of
Solomon, the Great Pentacle. This to the right, which do you
see the similarity here and hereit's not exact, but it's very
similar, right? This is squares, and these
aren't perfect squares, but thisis actually the seal.

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Funny enough, they call it the Seal of Melchizedek.
Also if you notice they don't have a circle around their seal,
so. Wow, now I know about this.
I got to, I got to watch. That's crazy.
This is the second parchment that he had and this is that
Juban Ladase Angel or demon, whatever you want to call it,

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but also no seal around it. Working with this one.
This is the one over government that I just told you about.
I see Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah everywhere.
Yep, Yep, this is called the Jehovah, Jehovah Jehovah
parchment. And this is another seal from
the keys of Solomon. And I'm like, OK, this is nuts.
Also the Maltese crosses in herelike there's you, you guys can

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go study this, but this is like I because I have to make it kind
of brief ish because there's a lot of slides, but and then this
one also is the last one. And as it says on the top,
Joseph Smith senior and Joseph Smith junior were probably the
ones that owned these, but they were inherited by the brother
Hiram after the death. Which makes complete sense

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because his wife Emma wasn't into this whole treasure digging
crap. She didn't like anything to do
with it. She was not happy that he was
into it. She loved him very much, but she
didn't. I wouldn't think she wouldn't
want this back. So I'm not surprised that Hiram
ended up with it. But you have have to remember he
was off at college. Who was the treasure digger who

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had the actual ticket, which I'll show you guys later for
treasure digging? Him and his dad, his brother is
not mentioned in these treasure digging things at all.
He's not a part. What were they looking for?
Treasure. Treasure isn't just gold or
something. You know, it's Speaking of a

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rabbit hole. OK, so they say like, where is
the Ark of the Covenant, Right. And then it gets into the whole
Oak Island thing and this treasure that supposedly this
Captain Kidd is this treasure. They're looking for Captain
Kidd's treasure. And that's what the story is
behind it. But actually, a lot of people

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think they're looking for the Ark of the Covenant.
Oh, OK. And so very interesting, but
still this is another one of thesymbols.
So if you look at that last parchment right here, see this
symbol? Right here.
It's identical. There's no way it's not.
And it's an actual third good Angel of ceremonial magic.

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I'm going to tell you guys something good or bad,
ceremonial magic is a no, I don't care.
Like it's it's witchcraft. It's definitely magic.
It's, you know, and it's to protect him.
That's fine and all. So was the other one.
But I'm just saying when you start calling down certain

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angels for things, God didn't send them, right?
I'm not saying angels don't helppeople, but that's why we're not
supposed to get in the way of things, right?
If God wants to do that, God will do that.
But that this is something that they're doing.
They're they're calling these things down this way, they're
summoning. And so I don't, I don't think
this is a good idea. So that's just my opinion.

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You do magic, knock yourself outwith it, but I don't think it's
a good idea. This is the actual photo also of
his ceremonial magic dagger, andit has the seal again, back to
Solomonic magic, The seal and intelligence of Mars is
engraving on it. And so basically when they slice

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the animal's neck, they don't have to do like invoking and
stuff right then because it's already on the dagger.
So it's like an immediate prayerover it, like a sigil.
And so I've talked to Doctor Justin Sledge, who is an
esoteric, a doctor of esoterics.And if people are familiar with
esoterica as his channel, like all these things, we've kind of

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chatted about this. His episode will be coming out
soon. But I'm telling you like this
stuff is well known in other realms, not Mormonism so much,
but well known in others. Again, like I said, it has
Adonai on one side, Scorpio and the intelligence of Mars on
another. These seals, see the seal of

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Mars here. All these seals are in the books
of Solomon. So the greater and lesser keys
of Solomon. Want to find out what these mean
specifically? You can go there.
I just put a lot of pictures to prove like this isn't me.
These aren't my pictures, these are real.
So and again, a close up of the ceremonial handle.

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So this is a fun little rabbit hole.
OK, so this is an actual newspaper article from the
Palmyra, and it's in 1824. And I'm going to just condense
it and tell you what it basically says.
It basically says we're going todig up Joseph Smith's oldest

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brother that died because peoplesaid we dug him up and that we
messed with his bones and that we were doing weird necromancy
stuff and we didn't. So we're going to dig him up to
show you we didn't. Oh, that's weird.
That's not weird at all. Right?
Like the what? Why would you do that?
So that we can prove that it hadnot been disturbed.

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They ran this six times. This is called pregaming.
This is like, OK, we got to run this article because we need
something, but also we can't getcaught.
So we're going to make up the story and run this article.
And then if people see us grave digging, we don't look so crazy,
right? So basically, this Angel didn't

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just cough up those plates rightaway.
This was a process. And every year Joseph would go
back and the first time, well, it was required that he go back
on the fall solstice in all black in the middle of the
night. This is not the story we are
told and to go talk to this Angel every single year.

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And this is verified in court documents in an affidavit by
Willard Chase about how this happened.
And there's many accounts of it.So you guys can go look it up.
It's real. So basically the Angel said,
look, you've been coming back and coming back.
One time he got punched in the face by a toad.

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It gets really weird but and toads are super occult, just so
you guys know. So basically the Angel says you
got to bring your brother Alvin.He's the one.
I'll give them to you if you bring Alvin and then Alvin dies
and it's not funny that he died.Possibly he was poisoned because

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he did die of medication giving to him by his physician for
Constipation. Little strange.
So he dies and he can't bring him.
So instead he brings his new wife Emma and Emma.
This is just the ticket showing that he was indeed cited for

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treasure looking and glass liquor, all the stuff.
And he got found found guilty and had to pay $2.68 which he
never paid. So he brings Emma instead, and
shortly after that, Emma has a baby because they're married and
stuff. He gets the plates and she has
the baby, and the baby is severely disfigured and only

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lives a few moments and dies. And they name the baby the dead
brother's name, Alvin. OK, now we're going to get into
Faustian bargains. Something that is really
important on a Faustian bargain is a first born son.

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When all this jazz started happening with these plates and
Joseph couldn't get them, what happens?
The oldest son dies accidentally, supposedly because
he had Constipation. OK, And then he has a son and he
names it that name and it's completely disfigured and
distorted. And then they name that baby the

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same name. I'm just saying I don't have any
proof on that one other than that those things happened.
But it's interesting. These are the characters on the
bottom here of the actual Book of Mormon characters.
Member. I told you they would write
certain symbols down, not necessarily words.

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These are the actual symbols. And this is a real piece from
them because they tried to get them verified by Anton, Charles
Anton, and they wanted to see ifthey were reformed Egyptians.
So they take him to this linguist guy and he's like, OK,
yeah, I'll verify him, blah, blah, blah.
And then he's like, wait, where did you get these from, though?

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And they're like, yeah, we got them from the angels.
And he's like, give me that. Like I'm not no, we're not doing
that. And they're like, can I have my
paperback? And then he's like, no, you
can't have your paperback. So that's why that we have that.
But if you look at the top, sorry, that's touchy.
That is the Enochian alphabet above it from John D and the

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angels, so people can look at that closer from comparisons.
It's not exact. It's very similar and they
called it reformed Egyptian. It was not.
It was a he didn't know anythingabout that.
I have to turn down this becauseit's now this gets out of Joseph

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Smithland and into the temple rights that we do as Mormons.
Now, interesting enough, Joseph Smith had received his Masonic
temple rights only three to fourweeks before he made the
ceremony for Mormons. Funny thing is, they call

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Mormonism Masonry for the whole family, right?
They, they make a joke about this because women can do it
too, sort of. I mean, they're still
subservient stuff, but they can go and do these rights.
Whereas in Masonry, the women have their own thing, you know,
that they have their own group. And so I kind of feel like this

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helped get him killed in a way. He was killed.
He was murdered so shortly aftergetting the Book of Mormon and
translating the plates and doingall of that stuff, he was driven
out 'cause he was sleeping with everyone's wives.
And he would be like, hey, brother Pratt or whatever you're

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you need to go serve a mission in Timbuktu to the natives while
I bang your wife. OK?
Even nowadays in Mormonism, thisis not OK because he was
actually polyamorous. He wasn't he wasn't being with
just women that were not marriedright?
Like he was, he was being a polygamist as well as being with

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women that were already married.And so that's not done at all in
the Mormon church. And so even he was like doing
things that we you wouldn't see the FLDS do today, They would
not do that. And so he was taking very young
wives and he was doing stuff against the Masons.

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I don't know if you know about the anti Mason movement.
No, but the last guy that did some anti Mason stuff, William
Morgan, had a disappearance and he never showed back up.
OK, They don't play, they're notplaying with you.
Like even nowadays. I mean, I think it's way less,
but right, they're influential. You hear Mason, you're like, oh,

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oh, OK, you know, what are you up to?
Like what what's going on there?And, and it's a secret society,
but like, he was out trying to be against the Masons, and then
one day he just wasn't there anymore.
So funny enough, Joseph Smith did where?
Marry his wife. Yeah.

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So it's a whole, like you said, it's in everything.
Like if we go down each rabbit hole, it's like a 12 hour thing.
But like, I can't even figure out where it ends anymore, you
know? Like, I was like, not prepared.
Yeah. I was not prepared for the
rabbit hole I fell in. Like at all.
And so I just thought, oh, well,this is bad because blah, blah,

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blah. And then I'm like, wait, no,
it's something else. Oh, shoot something else.
It, it never stops it. Oh, now it's linked to money.
Oh, now we're linked to New World Order.
Yes, all of that, all of it. We'll get there.
But this is some of the creepy crap we do in the temple.
Now this is a reenactment. I want people to know that.

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But I will tell you, I've done it.
I've been there a lot and it's pretty spot on.
Now they have made tweaks to it because people were like super
weird and freaky. The one where they say they'll
slice their throat and you'll see them do it.
They don't do that anymore. I'm pretty sure I know why

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because, and funny enough, the Mormons changed it, but the
Masons followed within nine months.
So you tell me they're not hooked together.
So they took it out. It's only now a part of the OTO
order temp ordo Templi Orientis,which is not Christian.
Look that up. Long story short, this is the

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ceremony of making men gods. So we shall play this and we'll
talk about it. I just like to warn people
first. What you are seeing is an
authentic first time ever on film reenactment of secret
Mormon temple ceremonies that even most Mormons have never
seen and those who have have sworn ever to reveal these

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secrets under penalty of death. The execution of the penalty is
represented by placing the rightthumb under the left ear,
drawing the thumb quickly acrossthe throat to the right ear, and
dropping the hand to the side. All of us who've been through
the temple of sworn, solemn oaths consenting to having our
throats slit and our heart and our vitals throat torn out.

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The execution of the penalty is represented by drawing the thumb
quickly across the body and dropping the hands to the side.
In the Mormon temple marriage, the partners are sealed to each
other for time and all eternity in Mason like rituals and
without this ceremony no one canenter the presence of Joseph
Smith and become a God. They lay.

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Hey. Brother Pratt, having authority,
I wash your preparatory receiving your anointings for on
behalf of John Kimball, who is dead, that you may become clean
from the blood and sins of this generation.
Mr. Bradford, I wash your preparatories.
Are you receiving your anointings for on behalf of

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Eliza Barrett? Eliza Barrett, who is dead, that
you may become clean from the blood and sins of this
generation. I wash your head that your brain
and intellect may become clear and active.
Your eyes that you may see clearly and discern between
truth and error. Thousands of occultic ceremonies
each day are performed for the dead so that they too can
receive the benefits of Mormonism.

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Mormons are encouraged to have encounters with the dead, and
it's not uncommon for demons impersonating the dead to appear
to Mormons, stating that they'vebeen converted to the Mormon
church in the spirit world and now want their family history
traced. Your loins, that you may be
fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth, that you
may have joy in your posterity. Your vitals and bowels that they

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may be strong and healthy and perform their proper function.
Your breasts that it may be the receptacle of pure and virtuous
principles. OK, so that was the God makers.
It's creepy. So when I when I went through
you got naked. Wait in front of all those

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people. Wait, wait.
You get naked and put that poncho on that thing that she
was wearing that looked like a sheet is like a poncho, but it
sliced all the way up and like, it's just open.
And I was super pregnant. And so you're just in the
backroom with a woman and and this led me down a weird rabbit
hole because I was like a woman can't give a blessing.

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And I was like, wait, you can't give me a blessing.
Why are you touching me and talking to me like, go get the
guy. Like you can't do it.
You're not a 12 year old boy hasmore authority in the Mormon
church than a grown up woman. And I was like, you don't, you
don't have the authority to do this.
And so I told my grandma that And I was like, what's going on
with this? She's like, no, no, it's just

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different in the temple. And I was like, OK, whatever.
So it was my first time. I was already freaked out half
naked in this dressing room, andnobody saw me except the ladies
back there. OK, you're by yourself.
But now they've changed it into like a baptism suit that you zip
up because a lot of people felt how I felt.
And my great grandma turned around and said, well, when I

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went, they scrubbed you in a bathtub naked.
And I was like, oh, my gosh. And so, yeah.
So also, this part has been changed with the women no longer
have to veil their faces becausewe don't have the priesthood.
We had to do that forever. These aprons are green.
It's just a bad tint on the photo because he snuck it as he

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snuck in. Shout out to what's his name?
New name something. But he went in and and he got
all this footage with like glasses or something.
I don't know. But yeah, new name Noah.
Way to go him. These are very reminiscent 1
breasted robes that go over the top of our clothes.

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OTO members, you'll recognize that.
What do you receive? We don't want to do that again,
sorry. This is the actual color of the
apron and it's fig Leafs like representative of fig Leafs.
And these are some of the signs and penalties that we do.
So we go through and we get thatpreparatory cleaning, whatever

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done. And they bless our bowels and
our whatever, everything. And then you go into this room
like Adam and Eve, like the Garden of Eden, and you're going
through this whole skit of how the universe came to be.
And it used to be a play. It used to be live.
But now, especially after 2020, everything's a video.

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And actually I've heard they quit doing the video and went to
slides because so many people left the church that some of the
people were apostates in the movie.
That's funny. And so now I guess it's just a
slideshow thing. So then you get to go through
fake to fake heaven. You get a new name, and you're

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never supposed to tell anyone that name.
Your husband tells his name to the guy behind the veil who's
fake God, and you don't ever getto know it because you're just a
dumb girl. And then you tell your name to
your husband because there's no salvation without him.
Ladies, remember that for Mormons, your salvation and your

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priesthood blessings come from your husband.
And I don't, I don't really get into being a feminist or
whatever, but still, that's not the best.
They do all these creepy things.And this thing in the center, if
anybody ever, well, I guess it'snot the center off to the side
here where they've got their hands up.
If anybody ever says can we put your name on the temple list,

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I'm going to explain to you whatthat means before you say, yeah,
there's a print out of all the names that they call in through
the week or however often they do them.
And they put them in this box inthe middle of these people.
Why they chant and raise their arms up and down, calling out
weird things, pale L. There's a lot of back and forth

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about what that means. And I'm not going to get into it
because some people say it's demonic and some people say it's
not and it's just a whole big thing.
So that's what they said. Now they say, oh God, hear the
words of my mouth because they changed it.
I don't know why we're changing things straight from God if it
really is straight from God, butthere it is.
So they chant around it can do these Masonic bird things.

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So just so you know, if you say,yeah, that's what they're going
to do. They're not praying like, oh
God, pray for these. They're they're doing this weird
stuff. So just think about that.
Is this all Mormons? Regular Mormons do this.
This is absolutely mainstream church.
This is what I did. This is why they call it.

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It's sacred, not secret. And I'm like, it's secret as
it's secret as crap because noneof us would have done it if we
knew. Well, like very few of us,
right? Like if they had told me all
this stuff before I went, I don't know if I'd have been
there. And they do give you a chance to
be like, well, if anybody wants to stand up and leave, remember
it's the best day of your life. You're this is like everything

(01:29:24):
you've worked for since you weretwo years old because they've
been grain this in your brain like 2000 times, way more than
that a year, probably 2000 * a year before, you know, you're
young and before you go that yougot to get married in the
temple. If you know any Mormons, that's
a huge deal. You got to get married in the
temple, got to get married in the temple.
Everything's about getting married in the temple.

(01:29:45):
And so if you don't get married in the temple, these signs and
and seals like these little and your special underwear will get
there. But these handshakes, if you
don't know the handshakes, you can't go to heaven because you
can't pass by the angels and Sentinels that guard the veil.
And they actually have a curtainwith holes in it.

(01:30:05):
And you have to stick your little hand in there and, and do
these now, the first time you doall this jazz and get your new
name and do all this crap for yourself.
But people go to the temple all the time, right?
So why do they go? Oh, now we're going to plug in
the genealogy key because dead people, because every single

(01:30:27):
time after you go for the first time, you're doing it for a dead
person. And they did Hitler and they did
Marilyn Monroe and they did Obama's mom, and they did all
the Jews that died for what theybelieved in, including Anne
Frank, until the Jewish people were like, can you stop now?
And they said yes, but then theydid it again.

(01:30:47):
So funny enough, they're doing necromancy.
They're literally doing this. And you are the proxy for a dead
person. So when you get there, they give
you a name. That's why he said for Eliza
Barrett. And that wasn't her name.
He said by proxy for Eliza Barrett.
And that is because you are stepping in for dead people.

(01:31:09):
They also baptize dead people, but the kids do that.
And this is very common. This is not.
If you ask a kid that's very devout in the LDS mainstream
Mormon church, that's 14. Have you ever done baptisms for
the dead? They'll say sure, yeah,
absolutely. They did them in this in this

(01:31:30):
font. Let me show you.
Oh, we got to go back one right there that was with usually the
oxen or golden, but not in this picture.
That's fine. It does remind me of and people
are like, oh, it's the 12 tribesof Israel.
Cool. And yes, it's exact replica of
Solomon's. Yeah.

(01:31:51):
OK, so we're back to Solomonic magic.
Also, you can't see out there and nobody's allowed in there
except like people that are witnessing this.
We don't know who they are. And you're half naked and you're
a kid, right? Like you're getting wet and it's
all all see through and it's weird.
And you're getting baptized up to I think it's eight times, so

(01:32:12):
8 dead people, bam bam, bam, bam, you know, and so you do
this all the time and then you go get ice cream, so.
So weird. It is really weird and if they
let the cat out of the bag more people wouldn't do it.
And also this is the garments you get along with your new

(01:32:33):
name, you get undergarments and you have the square and compass
on. Now I found this very
interesting on your orifices. Right breasts have openings, so
does a belly button, the sideways ruler also.
And it just screams in vocation for me.
I and then there's no other markings except on the right

(01:32:55):
knee because they say every kneeshall bow.
And I guess I've, I'm going to correct myself here.
In past, once they were very expensive when I was young and
went through. Now I guess they've way lowered
the price, which is good becausethey should have because they
used to be $30 a piece and now they're not.
And that's good because you needa lot of pairs of underwear.
You have to wear these closest to your skin.

(01:33:18):
You can't wear your bra underneath.
You can't wear your bra underneath this.
You have to put your bra over the garment and and your lady
time. Let me blow this up so that you
can see these. I don't know in the Mormon
church who has a crotch this long.
I just want to know why on earththe woman's crotch is like 2

(01:33:39):
feet long. It's ridiculous.
Look at it's gapping and it doesand it's horrible because when
your lady time happens, it's a problem and you can't wear
underwear underneath them. So it's a whole situation and.
It is so weird. Postpartum is even more fun and
like, yeah, it's. All So what's the point of

(01:34:01):
wearing these underpants undergarments?
These are magical underpants. So every Mormon tell you no, I
get it dude. I wore them for a long time and
I'm like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe I did this, but I did.
And This is why you'll never seea Mormon woman that's gone
through the temple in like a sleeveless outfit because of of

(01:34:22):
these garments would show you can't ever wear that again as
long as you're alive. And so you can only take these
off if you are showering, of course, like getting a new pair,
cuz they're like underwear. You change them, you know, all
the time people are like, what if they get, I'm like, no, you
just buy, they're just like underwear.
You buy new ones if they get stained just like regular
underwear, you know. But anyways, you can only take

(01:34:47):
them off when you shower, if yougo swimming, if you go to the
gym, and if you're making more Mormons.
And then? You have to put them.
Directly back on? Yeah, immediately back on.
No sleeping naked. None of that fun jazz.
This has to be on. This is your PJS.
Yes, at all times these are and so some people get really crazy

(01:35:07):
about it and they're like my momnever even took them off on the
top or whatever like when they did business or like they would
take off 1 arm and then put the arm in, you know so they were
never covered ever get set. Now I'm going to tell people
that's just people people and they never said that.
They just said like you're supposed to wear them at all
times. OK, and that means some things

(01:35:29):
to some people and other things to other people.
So you know it is what it is. But I will say all the seams in
this part, like in the crotch area makes me wonder if there is
is a sign in there that we don'tknow about because I find it
interesting that it's over orifices right?
Like seems unusual they wouldn'tput one where the main.

(01:35:52):
You mean like in them? Yeah, these signs are actually
sewed well. Now they're screen printed on,
but these are like on your clothes like they're.
There. Do you mean that Masonic sign
that is in those areas? That is so weird.
That's why they call it magical garments.

(01:36:14):
Yep, that's why. And most people do not know
these are Masonic symbols at all.
I didn't know. You want to know what I thought
they were because I was so ridiculous.
This. Is.
I thought they were darts like sewing darts for nipple area
because I didn't know and I had no idea they were Masonic.

(01:36:35):
But these first ones look if people want to go search this
out, look very much like the Jewish the the Jewish people
with the ringlets. I can't remember, but they, they
were undergarments as well. They do.
They have a string out the back.You can see them.
Yeah. And so people say Joseph Smith
never read the Kabbalah, my ass.They did too.

(01:37:00):
And so they've definitely changed over the years.
They used to just be one piece and really uncomfortable.
But now they're like a Hanes T-shirt and boxer briefs, you
know? But for women, it's worse.
After you do that baptism, you get these clothes.
No, after you go through and getyour temple, your temple.

(01:37:21):
And so the boys do it at 18 usually when they're going
through the temple because they get them then.
And the girls, I guess somebody did say the girls can go at 18.
Now, I know they used to make the girls wait till 21 because
they wanted us to get married and so they're big on that.
But somebody said they did change that.
So apparently they changed that also.

(01:37:44):
Those missions are paid for by those people.
Yes, the church kicks in money, but they have to pay I think
it's like $900 a month or something.
They make it standard across theboard.
So like if you go to Hawaii, it's super expensive.
If you go to Detroit it's super cheap, but they just make it 1.
One payment across the board permonth.
Wow. They want them to go, but they

(01:38:07):
got to pay for it pretty much. They got to pay for it.
Oh, absolutely. And if you don't go honestly,
like you come home early or you don't go, like it's a notch down
to get married. Like people.
Wow, you're not a return missionary.
I don't know. Oh.
My God. Yeah.
Because it's it's. You know a thing and that this

(01:38:30):
is the. Apron Apron.
The the green. Apron.
That's a Masonic apron. This is a Masonic apron and this
was Satan's apron. But before, because Satan does
pop up in our little temple talkand he's the one that gives us
the apron of green fig leaves. And he says, well, you should

(01:38:51):
put this on and, and you know, yeah, cover yourself.
And we take the apron and everyone stands and they go,
please stand and put on your apron.
And I always thought, why are wedoing what Satan said to do that
seems weird. But he has this apron.
And so this is the Masonic apron.
And it now he wears a dark one. Now he just wears a dark like

(01:39:14):
blackish type one. But back before the 60s, he wore
this and my grandma remembered this.
So yeah, this was the thing. Is there somebody standing in
there as Satan's place and has this apron on?
Yes, Yep, Yep, absolutely. It's a full play.
And if it's not a play, I guess anymore, they do slides, I

(01:39:37):
suppose. But they would put the slide up
of a Satan, you know what I mean?
There's actually a hilarious TikTok.
And people are like all dressed in their temple garments, not
well, their whole outfit. And they're like, and then why
did they make Satan hot in the video?
And it shows Satan back in the day.
And it was kind of funny. I was like, ha, that's

(01:39:57):
hilarious. But Mormon humor.
But yeah. These are not the Mormon signs
and symbols. These are similar to the signs
and symbols of Mormonism. I like to show this because this
is what Joseph did. We'll use the last one as an
example. The real grip of a master Mason

(01:40:18):
or the lion's paw. Well, in Mormonism, it's the
true sign of the nail, like Jesus, like touching where the
nail was. So he just kind of Christianized
them and stole them. He did, I mean.
That's all Freemason stuff. Oh, sure it is for sure.
And to prove so, just so you know, Mormons are never, never,

(01:40:42):
never to show those signs and symbols.
I just showed you. We're not supposed to talk about
them with our kids, not even if they're going to the temple
tomorrow. Do you show them?
You're never supposed to show them in general.
You're never supposed to do themin public, except if you're the
president of the church and you meet the president of the United
States. And then I guess you can just
bust it out for the world to see, because that's not wow.

(01:41:07):
Interesting. So he that guy is a Mormon guy
with Bush. Yes, he was.
He was the president of the church.
This is Thomas S Monson. Why are they meeting?
Yeah. Why are they meeting?
Interesting. Yeah, they meet quite often.
Also, just for fun facts, Russell M Nelson, the current,

(01:41:29):
this is him, president of the church, Prophet Seer and
revelator. He's doing, you notice he's
doing one of the signs on this little statue.
I noticed weird right away. You're never supposed to do it
in public. He's 100 years old.
Not only is was he a surgeon, but he was a member of Skull and

(01:41:50):
Bones chapter of University of Utah and Alan Key, which is
scrolling Key at Yale. Yes, the members of Yale
University came and actually sanctioned the opening of the
Skull and Bones at University ofUtah.
This is verified everywhere. You can go look it up.
It's more over his biography that he was in it.

(01:42:12):
Yeah. So it's Skull and Bones.
So we get even deeper and these are the signs and symbols all
over the Salt Lake City Temple, which are pentagrams, sunstones,
moonstones, cloudstones, Masonichandshakes.
And right now they're renovatingthe temple.

(01:42:33):
And I do believe you will not see these symbols anymore.
I think they're going to take them off.
They're going to they're going to secrets that.
Yep, I think you will not see these anymore.
And also kind of funny enough and this is just me being silly
or maybe not Phallus opening. Phallus opening.
Oh my God, you're right. Phallus is off to the side.

(01:42:57):
I'm like, well, I mean, OK, maybe it isn't, but.
Whatever. Wow, so also they always have on
the top the Angel Moroni, which is usually supposed to be gold
when we get into the Luci stealing.
What is a conduction? OK, so if you've got all these
people doing these weird necromancy ceremonies that they

(01:43:19):
don't know anything about, why would you do that?
Why would you even have them do that if they don't know what
they're doing, right? Why indeed?
Because possibly you're making energy.
You're still doing the thing that makes things happen, and
you're harnessing that energy out the top of these Spires.
It often makes me wonder. That is speculation on my part,

(01:43:42):
by the way, people, that is the only part so far that is
speculation unless I've said so.The rest of this stuff is
documented and you can go look it up like I'm not making this
up. This is real.
So yeah, it's that is the slideshow.
I hope. Any questions for sure, but I

(01:44:04):
just think it's very interesting.
All of these things like that isjust a quick and dirty lowdown,
you know, and I just think it's totally interesting situation
when you find all this out. That is so deep, Heidi.
Oh my God, it is it. You can see it.

(01:44:27):
I mean, once you know that, that's you know exactly.
And once you know it's Solomonicmagic, you know that they're not
doing it for nothing. Like, come on, why would they
make all these people that are completely oblivious?
We don't know. The normal people do not know,

(01:44:48):
right? These are normies, so why would
you make them do it if it wantedto help you?
And what does necromancy provideto people?
OK, why do people do it? It says if you look up why do
people do necromancy, it says togive them powers and knowledge.
And what do we call of the future especially?

(01:45:08):
And what do we call the president of the church,
prophet, Seer and Revelator likethese are this is a direct
communication and they're using it for their purposes.
And I didn't even get into the witchcraft with the mirrors on
ceilings. When you get married into the
temple, you look in these mirrors that are facing each
other. So it goes on forever and ever
and ever and ever. Who only knows what you're

(01:45:30):
invoking into your marriage? Guy.
Yeah, yeah, it's scary. And with sex magic because
usually they're virgins and usually they've never been
together before and then, you know, you go home and you know
what's going to happen. So like, you do that right
before and so is it sealed later?

(01:45:51):
I'd like to know. But funny enough, yeah, funny
enough, as much as they hold women down in the church, the
top secret, secret secret thing that they do in the church
called the second anointing is ablessing where your place is
made sure. So Jesus will not judge them in
the afterlife. Supposedly they've already been

(01:46:13):
judged here on earth and they can do anything except murder.
And that includes shadow stuff, everything and still go to
heaven. And because their place has been
made sure. And that includes stealing.
Like This is why so many of the top top can do all these
nefarious things, right, except murder.

(01:46:34):
And they still can go to heaven.But that blessing is sealed.
So one of the 12 apostles washesyour feet like Jesus in the
temple. And then there's a second part
to this ritual where you go homein your bedroom, sex magic, and
your wife seals your head with ablessing.

(01:46:54):
Your wife, the very last and final thing that you get from
the church on blessings is sealed by a woman.
And that's because, and This is why that Lady could give me the
blessing. This is the answer to the
question that I asked and my grandma wouldn't tell me.
It's because she has become a priestess.
That's what they call it, or a goddess.

(01:47:17):
And she can do those rites and rituals now because she's had
the second anointing. I'm sorry, but when you're
harnessing energy, feminine energy like that and sex magic
and all this stuff like this goes down a weird.
Place that's Aleister Crowley stuff.
That's crazy. Oh my God.

(01:47:40):
No one would ever think that Mormon churches do these things
at all. I didn't.
I never knew. Yeah, I, I think I, I heard you
very recently, obviously you just started your podcast.
I heard very recently some of the things that you were saying.
And I was blown away. And then when I talked to Jesse
and she's telling me this stuff,I'm like, no way.

(01:48:03):
That's crazy. And and The thing is, is there
this goes even deeper to the oneworld order because remember,
Joseph Smith is not supposed to have known things, right?
Because he was supposedly a non alerted guy or whatever, right?
He that he's this guy, whatever.So there's something called the

(01:48:25):
organization of the Order of Enoch that started by Joseph
Smith. You obviously knew about Enoch
because he named it this. They kind of hide this for this
reason and it's basically an order where they all get
together and live communally andeverything's put in the
Prophet's name at the top. The FLDS still live this way to

(01:48:47):
this day. The FLDS, everything is put in
the Prophet's name. And actually that's why when he
got in trouble, Warren Jess and got arrested, they were able to
take that town and a lot of his belongings and everything
because it was under his name. Even the houses that the people
built, they're only allowed to build their they never own the

(01:49:08):
land ever. And so this, this is like their,
I guess idea basically, and thisis back in 1831, this was
started that they should all live communally and give
everything basically, even houses, factories, towns,
everything to the prophet and live like all together as like

(01:49:31):
communistically. And what does the New World
Order want to do with people, you know, give give it to the
top and everybody else has to dofrugal living within a social
and economic enclave. That is literally from the words
of this organization. And so I'm just saying like,

(01:49:53):
very interesting. When you look that stuff up,
United Order of Enoch, you guys can look it up.
Such a deep rabbit hole. And was the Mormon head guy John
Joseph Smith? Joseph Smith.
Was he? I thought I read but I don't
know if it was him or another cult was choked by an Angel.

(01:50:18):
He was. I don't know if they choked him.
I know he got punched. I might.
Have been. I might try it.
A toad, that is. A toad and they covered it up.
You know, the church is so smart, they covered it up.
This book called the Salamander Stories.
If you tell somebody Joseph Smith got punched by a toad,

(01:50:41):
they'll say no, no, you're thinking of the salamander in
this story by Mark Hoffman, who was a liar who killed a bunch of
people with bombs. Well, he killed 2 and he's
currently alive and in prison today.
But but he was a forger and he would, he hated the church, but

(01:51:01):
he had to like go along to get along.
And so he started forging all these funny documents and
selling them to the church because the church doesn't want
stuff out like that. And they're like, Oh yeah, we'll
buy that. Don't put that out right?
Like so he started doing this and kind of shaking the church
down. Well, I think my personal
opinion is I think they might have had something to do with

(01:51:25):
him being arrested because he was singing like a Canary before
and saying like, oh, this and this and this against the
church, blah blah blah blah blah.
But then all of a sudden he tried to not wake up one day and
take too much of his medication,I guess, and no one checked on
him for 12. Yes, I said 12 hours on death

(01:51:48):
row. Oh, OK, for 12 hours, he laid on
the ground on his arm, and no one saw him.
But they're supposed to do rounds all the time.
OK. And all of a sudden, he quit
talking because his right arm was paralyzed.
And that was his forging arm. And he never will forge anything

(01:52:09):
again. You tell me they didn't get him.
Like, it makes you wonder, did they set him up just to take
that fall? And did they do it?
But like, you can't prove any ofthat.
I'm sure he will never say. Right, right.
Wow, that is so crazy, Heidi. Oh my God.
Well, there's so much we can so many different rabbit holes that

(01:52:31):
we can continue on. But I want to thank you for
sharing your incredible journey.That's it was incredible.
It takes a lot of courage to speak openly about leaving the
faith. It's definitely not easy to talk
about, especially one that's been deeply ingrained, such as

(01:52:51):
Mormonism. And Heidi, your honesty and your
willingness to explore all this,you know, it's just challenges
and triumphs. Your experiences would no doubt,
I believe, resonate with many ofour listeners.
So thank you so much again for bringing your insights and

(01:53:11):
wisdom to the show. I think it's going to help a lot
of people who might be in a similar path.
Hopefully. You know, I know, I know you're
not supposed to look at other things when you're in the in the
church because they tell you notto, you know, don't look at
other things that are talking against the church.

(01:53:32):
Of course, they're anti sermon. Yes.
So they'll so, but hopefully if,if they can, maybe a friend or
relative that is not so deeply in can share something like this
with them because I think it's important that they know this
stuff. And if you want to go forward,
like and do it, if you have the knowledge and it's your choice,

(01:53:54):
that is a very different thing than being lied to.
And that is why I speak out. If the church would come clean
and start just saying what it is, then maybe I wouldn't talk
about this anymore, you know? But I did lose everything when I
came out. I did.
My family, yeah. They don't speak to me and you

(01:54:15):
know it. It's OK at this point.
But like, it's a hard thing to do.
That's a hard choice to make. Yeah, because your whole life is
this everything, people you probably do business with, the
people that you hang out with, you go to church with these
people, everything. You hang out with these people
every, your whole life is involved.

(01:54:37):
So I understand it's that's why I say this is not easy for you
to do, so I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
It's a. Lot of.
Want to help people? And that's my thing, you know,
like one, one person doesn't go through because of it.
Cool, you know what I mean? That would be good.
So. Exactly.

(01:54:58):
And if you guys didn't see me onother platforms or check out my
episodes, we're going to be releasing the 100th episode
today. Oh my God, that is exciting.
Yes. Where can people find you,
Heidi? Yes, I'm at the Unfiltered Rise
podcast everywhere podcasts are served.
I do have the unfiltered risepodcast.com, and I do have a

(01:55:21):
Patreon where I do two extra shows a month so that I never
have to cut my episodes because I hate that.
That and I'll give you extra ones for 5 bucks a month.
And they're all about the other side of Mormonism, the murder
Mormons and mayhem, which, by the way, Ted Bundy was a Mormon.
So we get away all kinds of fun things.
Yeah. So go there for some fun.

(01:55:45):
Yeah, check it out. Thank you.
Again, for having me on, I appreciate you so much.
No thank you Heidi. And is love your real last name?
It's my middle name. It's my real.
Yep, it's my real middle name and I just don't put my last
name out just 'cause I live in Utah.
I know. Of all places, right?

(01:56:06):
That is crazy. Yep, and now we have kids that
are settled here and having babies.
So we will be here, yeah. Yeah, no choice.
Do people know who you are and kind of give you that funny
look? Sometimes, yeah.
But they don't watch different. Yeah, it's they don't.
Sometimes, sometimes people say stuff and I'm like, why are you
watching my channel? You're not exactly.

(01:56:28):
You're not supposed to be watching.
Yeah, don't watch my channel. But you have a problem with it.
That's we. Keep it on the hush because we
don't want my kids. Like not being able to play.
It's already hard, yeah. Absolutely so.
Oh my goodness. It's all right.

(01:56:48):
Thank you so much, Heidi. I really appreciate your time
today, and that brings us to an end of another episode.
I want to thank my special guest, Heidi Love, for taking
the time to share her incredibleinsights into the mystical side
and the history of Mormonism. Your journey and knowledge have
truly added to the depths of this conversation, and we hope

(01:57:11):
this message Heidi brings can help others who may need it,
whether they're considering leaving Mormonism or just simply
seeking to understand it better.And to all our listeners, don't
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(01:57:35):
continue bringing you these thought provoking discussions.
Until the next time, guys, Ahui ho kako.
Bye. We had some kind.
Of vibe you drove me crazy. Oh, you brought out was my bad
side and I held you right. I had to hold you tired because
I never thought of finding a girl like you.

(01:57:58):
I couldn't think of my life without you baby.
Get something hold on me. And never wanted you to leave
you to know what's coming next because you're always running
from it. Then I got you lipstick got a

(01:58:22):
class that can move advice when you can ever I run the truth
you're the one who only got away.
Let me heal and let them you sayyou let the lipstick good
advice. It goes to what we have.
God can stay, but the only thingthat stay where you live stay.

(01:58:49):
Feed us around truth, pretendingwe were fine.
But every time you smiled I could see behind a light.
And now I'm here alone with nobody to hold.
But I'm just glad I'm now with somebody like you.
I couldn't think of my life without you, baby.
Yes, I did hold on me and never wanted you to leave.

(01:59:12):
You're the Lord's coming next. You love duelistic from my
class. You run and from the guys little
bit get yourself to you. Then I got duelistic from the
class. When you can never run the
truth. You're the one who only got

(01:59:35):
away. Let me peel and look inside.
You love duelistic from the class.
That goes to what we have.

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