Episode 42. Werewolf on the Bayou: Roy Stubblefield's True Encounter

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Hi guys, welcome to another episode of the Sensible Hippie
Podcast. And I'm your host, the Sensible
Hippie. Today, I'm thrilled to introduce
a very special guest, someone whose remarkable story has been
a topic of much fascination. You might have already heard
about Roy Stubblefield, especially if you are into the

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mysterious and the unexplained. His encounter with what he
describes as a werewolf in New Orleans was featured in the
travel channels These Woods Are Haunted Show episode three of
season three. But as it often happens with
tales so bizarre and so intriguing, the true essence of

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his experience wasn't truthfullycaptured.
So today Roy joins us to set that record straight.
This is a rare opportunity to hear the untold details of a
night that defies all explanation.
A night where the line between the unknown and the known was

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blurred. So brace yourselves for part one
of this compelling 2 part seriesand we are going to dive in
Roy's first hand account of thisextraordinary encounter that
happened in July of 1982. Again for coming on the Sensible
Hippie podcast. I really appreciate that.

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So you are Roy Stubblefield and your experience was on the
Travel Channel season three, episode 3.
I know that was a very popular episode.
Do you feel that they accuratelyportrayed your experience?

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No, I don't not, I do not. And I have had conversation with
the producer about that because they did a four.
We did a Four Hour Energy and they recorded everything and
they were asking questions and what they did was they took some
of my audio and inserted words that I said in places where I

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didn't say them. I did five or six, been on five
or six podcasts and I've never ever said that the guy shot the
creature. I never said that.
Of course if you listen to the audio, it says the guy shot it

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and that's what made it run off.That is not true.
That is not true. And I actually sent you a link I
believe to when I was on dog manaccount radio and you can hear
me say, somebody even said don'tshoot it.
So I was not happy with that. Also, that never happened.

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But if you noticed, they kept itso much in the shadows, you
pretty much just got a profile of it.
But not the depiction of the creature as I described it to
him. And I was like, OK, I said OK,
well, you know, you guys reachedout to me, so do what you do.
But I even asked him, why did you have to change anything that

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I told you? Well, we thought it would make
it more exciting for television.It would be more, I said.
So you mean to tell me everything that I shared with
you, but understand anybody thatreaches out to me or if I do

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another podcast, I will be letting them know if they watch
that episode that that you did not depict my encounter
correctly. OK, well, you can do what you
want to. I said, God says I can't say
you're right, I can't as long asI don't break any law.
So. And I'm gonna say this real

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quick and then I'll jump into itsince I've been on TV and I did
a little checking because people, you know, I got so much
response, you know, that, man, that was an incredible
encounter. You know, did that really happen
to you? And I'm like, first of all, I'm
not looking for fame or notoriety.

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I am telling people about this one because I needed to get it
off my chest. This is something that's been
branded in my brain. No matter how old I get, I'm
going to always remember this, Isaid.
But the second reason I did it is because I want people to know
you don't have to be in the woods to see these things be

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right in the neighborhood. And I was in the neighborhood
and 3rd, I was hoping that one of the guys I was with would
actually hear that and reach outto me.
That's why I always say my full name and where I was at.
And that way they could contact me and I could find out what
happened the next day that how did the rest of you guys lives
go you know what happened. But unfortunately that hasn't

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happened yet. So I still got hope, but people
just need to be aware that this planet that we have, there are
things here that fall outside the norm of what you consider a
natural animal. I don't know what they are.

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A lot of people say they don't believe in werewolf, but they'll
say when I believe in a skinwalker.
In my opinion they're almost onein the same because of physical
change is supposed to take place.
When a shaman uses whatever peltor feathers to change to
Admiralty, he has to change back.

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And another thing I found is wives tales, fairy tales, scary
stories, all of them have a shred of truth.
A shred. That's how they got started.
I just can't see how somebody will be sitting in their Hut or

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at home one night and be like, Ithink I'm gonna tell my kids
that werewolves exist that way. That's going to scare them and
make them be good. And then sit down and talk about
a person changing from a human being into one of these things
and back in that. They'll tear you limb from limb.
So, but everybody has their own opinion, of course.
But I just know what I see and Iknow what I felt.

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Never said that I saw her change.
But I'm sure you've been some places where you seen another
person where you were driving just kind of look to the left,
look to the right. You just gotta feel like
something's off about that person.
So having said all of that, now I'll go ahead and get into my

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account. I was living in Omaha, Nebraska
at the time before I went to Louisiana, and I was staying
with my cousin and my aunt and my aunt.
She was younger, so she really didn't want to be called on.
She told me call about first name, which was Pat.

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So that's what I did and I guessI had been there.
I know I stayed with her for at least a couple of years and I
had graduated that year and she came home one day and said we

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need to have a family meeting. I usually when she says this
that means somebody didn't do something and now we bout to we
bout to hear about it. So I'm looking at my cousin and
I had it love. We had another cousin.
So I'm looking at them like, OK,what didn't y'all do?

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And they looking at me. What didn't you do?
I'm like, OK, you cut the grass and leaves got raked up.
The grass could be was raked up.Yeah.
The dish is done. Yeah.
OK Did you clean the basement? Yeah.
You know, I'm going through the list and they like, man, I don't
know what she want to talk about.
We did. So she comes out of her room,
you know, we sitting at the diner table and she said in two

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weeks I'm going to be moving to New Orleans and I'm going to
leave the house to you guys. I need to make sure y'all could
have paid the rent, utilities and keep the property up.
Now you talking to three teenageboys and my other cousins were

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younger than me by two and threeyears.
So one cousin he's kicking me upunder the table.
He's kicking my foot When you hear this like and I know where
the OR he's going with it because I'm thinking the same
thing. Wait a minute.
You move into another state and you gonna leave us in this house
by ourselves. It's about to be on this summer.

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It's about to be on. Can't nobody tell us nothing.
It's about to be on. So it took me a few years after
this to actually think about it.But my aunt for her to do that,
you leaving your 16 year old sonhere by himself, that doesn't

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make you a very good mother. That's illegal today.
Right. You leaving your son here?
I'm supervised. But there's a story behind that
and I'll talk to you about that off here.
So we like, OK, well, you know, that's all we said was kind of

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shell shocked, this stuff. OK, So she got up and went in
the kitchen, and she called me in the kitchen.
I'm like, some more good news off.
I'm thinking some more good news.
So she's like, well, I'm gonna need you to help me drive down
in New Orleans. And the following Friday, I'm
gonna put you back on a Continental Trailways and send

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you back to Omaha. I'm like, OK, I can do that.
I can do that. And also at that time I was
going through a breakup with my first year's relationship.

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35 hours water. I was like, wow, that was a long
drive. But when we arrived in town she
had already got her apart and stuff so we just took the beds
out and took them up Seriously. We have something to sleep on
and we just crashed out. And then the next day we got
unloaded to U-Haul. Then there's one thing I'm gonna

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always appreciate about over under overestimating a person
because she was only 5 twos, yetshe was helping me move dressers
just up, you know to the second story heavy stuff.
And I'm looking at like you OK? She's like yeah, I got this and
I'm just looking at like and I don't ever one get in the fight

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with you could you know she had Duncan 5 stuff and that's really
happy. So we got all that done and she
said I'm gonna take you around to some places so you can get
the chance to see the city. I'm like, OK.
I appreciate that. Well, the 1st place she took me
was the popeye's chicken. We didn't have popeye's chicken

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in Nebraska. When I had some of that chicken,
I was like, Oh my God, I literally want to kiss the cook.
I really want to kiss. This is.
I mean, it was something different for me.
And Southern cooking is very good.
I mean it is so did that and shetook me to a couple of other

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places and then we went down or to the French quarters.
It was on a Thursday and I'm walking around looking these
people is having a good time. They nobody fighting, cussing
that they got alcohol in there and I'm looking like 30 minutes.
You can't walk down the street drinking alcohol in Nebraska.

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That's the fastest way to go to jail.
But there were even police down there.
They was, you know, just walkingdoing their patrol.
And these there were St. vendorson the corner and they were
selling these big 32 ounce drinks, the hurricane, the
tropical storm and a cyclone. I'm like, let me get one of them
a seat. I took two sips and I looked at
that. I said I don't want to go back

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to Nebraska. Can I stay?
And she was like, wait a minute,you supposed to be going back
home for hi? I'm like, well, why can't I
stay? She's like, well, weren't you
planning on going to school thisfall?
I'm like, I can go to school here.
She said, well, you know, you'regonna have to get a job.
I'm like, of course, like, I could well, I can do both.

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Can I stay? I just need you to give me
enough time to give me a little money put up.
And I'll even get my own place. Because she was like, OK, well,
if that's what you want to do. And I'm like, OK, I didn't call
my cousin till the week later and tell him man, I coming back,
just put my stuff and some boxesand I'll be up there to get it
when I can. And it took me, I think it was 8

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days. I missed 7-8 days to get a job.
And I'm not sure if you've ever heard of it, but there used to
be a clothing store called ChessKing back in the day.
If you wanted the type of stuff they sold was if you wanted to
look like your famous musician, whether it be Michael Jackson,

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The Flock of Seagulls, Duran Duran, you went to to Chess King
When he had, he came out with the the Thriller video, Michael
Jackson with the Red, The Black and Red jacket.
Yeah, we had an abundance of those.
So you could, you know, put yourwardrobe together like I said,

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if you want to look like a rock star, R&B, whatever.
And it was on Canal Street, which is a Main Street downtown.
It was a decent size shop and wehad mostly men's clothes, but we
have a small section for women. And I was in there working and

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my manager actually worked with me.
I don't know if it was by designor if that just wasn't the the
hours that she had available when I worked in the daytime and
that was good. So one day I was rotating some
stock we had got a new order in and I was rotating some of the

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old stuff back to put it back inthe storage and you know the
store that have that little bailabove the door for when you come
in. But we have one to dance because
you I might be in the back or something.
I hear that tingle tingle when Igo get well, the bill went off

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and I'm down on my knees hangingout these, pulling up these
shirts. And I was hanging up the newness
and I turned around and looked and Oh my God, this woman, girl,
whatever turns his best was walking in the store.

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And when I looked at her, I was like, she got everything that
Uncle Johnny, the biscuits, the bacon and the gravy everything.
But I'm at work so I can't, you know, say anything to her as if
I was met her on the street or something.

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So I looked at her, not, you know, got it.
And I walked over, you know, said welcome to chess King.
Is there anything I can help youwith?
She said, well, I just want to look around for a minute.
If I find something, if I need some help, I'll let you know.
I said, OK, take your time. And I went back to doing what I
was doing, but I was steadily looking over there acker.

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But I'm like, I started thinking, what can I say, What
can I say? What can I say?
Because I don't, you know, my boss is there.
So if I am going to say something, I got to make sure
that I don't straddle that sexual harassment law, even
though it wasn't really that bigback being as it is now.
But I'm at work, I'm not trying to lose my job.

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So I'm thinking and I'm thinkingand I'm thinking and I'm like,
you know what, stop thinking of pick up lines and just introduce
yourself just for a change. Just introduce yourself and just
talk to it. So I was swapping off some
shirts and I was actually working in the wind section.

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And I looked over at her. She kind of gave me that, looked
like, you know, can you help me?So I walked over.
She she asked me, I like these shirts.
Do you have these in any other colors?
I said, yes. These just came in.
Actually, I got three different colors in the back.
I said, what size you wear, You look like you bought a medium.
And, you know, she kind of smiled.

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She's like, yeah, but you can bring a small, too.
So I went in the back and I got the shirts and I came out, I had
a red, purple and orange one, I believe.
And you know, I had him on my arm and I held him out.
She's like, well, I like the orange one.
Not too big a fan of, but I knowshe chose two shirts.

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I think she got an orange one out of black.
And then she was looking at someslacks and I just said, I said,
hey, what's your name? And she told me, and I don't
have my journal in front of me, so I can't say her name.
And I think even if I did, I don't want to say her name.
I've never done that since it. Because if I'm right, then I

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don't want her to be like, I know where you are.
Let me come and finish what I started.
So she gave me her name. I said, well, I'm new in town
and I need somebody show me around.
Can I take you out on the day? And she didn't say anything for

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a few seconds. She kind of looked me up and
down and then she looked me right in her eyes and I was
looking at her eyes and I'd never seen eyes like that
before. They were like a greenish gold.
But in a few minutes I seen something else that I've never
seen before, that of since so. We was walking up to the

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counter. Now during this time when she
first came, me and my boss was actually helping another
customer and they have finished up.
So she's standing at the end of the counter and she's watching.
And every now and again I would look over at her to see if she
was gonna give me a disapprovinglook like you know, this is not
what you here for. But she didn't say no.
She was just standing and looking and she kind of had a

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little grin on her thing. But we got up to the counter.
I said, OK, so get that telephone now.
The whole time I was talking to her before, it is, she always
was looking me at my eyes. As soon as I said that, she
broke eye contact and she kind of looked down and to the left.

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Now I had looked at her hands and everything because I'm
looking for a ring. I didn't see her ring.
I didn't even see where she might have been wearing it.
Took it off that little tan linethat you get, So I'm freaking
OK, he left. Worst case, she got abortion.
And she's like, well, I can't give you my phone up.

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So I'm like, OK, well, what's your address this time?
She looked to the right and she's looking down.
She's like, I can't give you my address.
See, That's when I'm like, oh man, really?

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That wasn't unheard of back then, but I wasn't expecting
that from her. I said, OK, well, if we don't go

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on a date, how am I supposed to meet you?
She's told me there's a part about two blocks from my house.
Show up there at 7:00, and we'llwe'll leave from there.
And I'm like, OK, that'll work. That'll work.
You know, maybe you're doing this for your own safety.

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And as you get to know me, then,you know, if you would trust me
enough to come out of the house or tell your mom about, you
know, how I was supposed to go. I'm like, OK, so she completed
her transaction and I walked herto the door, and I was holding
the door for four. Now, of course, I am a man, and
I was a young man then, So I'm not going to lie.

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The whole time she was walking, I don't think my eyes went above
her waist. I just want to say I don't think
they did. And I'm not being banished
anything. I'm just being on me.
But when she got to the door, I held it open for.
And at that time of day, the angle of the sun was actually
coming into the front windows ofthe store.

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So when she turned to look at me, I was looking, you know, at
her in her face. And for just a hot second, there
was a gold ring around her pupil.
But you could only see it with the light here.
Her eyes. That's right.
And I it, you know, I was, you know, I actually kind of, you

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know, I didn't back up, but I kind of leaned back a little bit
like colorful language. I've never seen eyes like that
before in my life. You have some gorgeous eyes.
He's like, thank you. I'm like, no, really, I've never
seen eyes like that before. You are.
It just makes me wonder about certain things.

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But anyway, I like I said, I've never seen not like that before
or since, and I guess in some ways that should have tipped me
off to something. But I'm young.
I don't know nothing about monsters other than books and
Hollywood and stuff like that. I'm not thinking about where she

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could possibly be or none of that stuff I'm thinking about.
I got a date with it. You know, a very just looking
moment, you know. And we were supposed to go out
that Friday and this was on a Wednesday when I met her.
I remember that it was July 7th.So I turned around and go back

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to the counter. My boss is standing and looking
and she's like you pretty smooth, know if like I didn't do
anything, she said. Most guys would have said
something, you know, You know, Well, I'm like, OK, so we was

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talking and it took me about 5 minutes.
I'ma see I'm like, Oh my God, were you dumb as hell that my
boss said, what? I'm like I forgot to ask her
where the park was at and my boss said, oh, I know where it's
at. I'll draw your map.
I'm like, you know where it's at.
She said yes up in And I'm like,where is that at?

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She said, I'ma draw your map. So she drove me a turn by turn
map and said if you you get up in the Metairie, if you drive
past the winn-dixie, it's a grocery store on the right hand
side. Then you went too far.
When I turn around to come back,I'm like, I'm not gonna miss my
so I'm kind of excited. Thursday just seemed like it.

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Drug. It's drug and drug.
And then Friday coming my boss said.
You know what, Roy? I said no, I don't know what,
and I'm pretty sure he's gonna tell me, she said.
Actually purchased my outfit that I was gonna wear on a date

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from the store employee discountand did that.
So I think I left a little bit after six and I'd start driving
to the park and I'm, you know, running some different scenarios

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through my head, my do's and don'ts.
But I got to the park 650-5656 because it's about 20/22/23
miles away. I get to the park and it's not a
big park. If you get 100 people in there,

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y'all be rubbing elbows. But there were some boys and
girls, men and women in the park.
Women to have their kids on the playground equipment.
But there was a a basketball court and they had the three
tier bleachers on one side of it.

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Now in Louisiana it rains a lot and you very seldom get
sprinkles. It's like somebody just turn
over turn a 5 gallon bucket thatit come pouring down like that
because it it can flood within 15 minutes on any St. there
because the soil is like a clay.So it takes time for that water

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to run off. But they got plenty of drainage
ditches around. But a lot of the outdoor bath
world, the outdoor basketball, of course they have this tin
roof over over the whole course.So if it's raining you can still
play unless the wind start blowing the sideways and then it
becomes hazards because there's water on the court.
So it had one and at least you know with some guys playing,

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there's people sitting on the beaches.
So I got out and I walked up andI sat down on the edge of the
feature. I have one with some shorts, a
button up shirt and some sandals, and while I'm sitting
there I started cursing inside because I put on Cologne.

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The mosquitoes in Louisiana. I swear some of them were big,
like miniature helicopters. I'm talking about big
mosquitoes. And if too many get on you, I'm
pretty sure they can take a pintor two out.
And I'm not kidding. Mosquitoes are bad there.
And of course I got Colonel. So I'm slapping and popping and

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I got a little towel and I'm swapping and stuff.
And I'm like, oh, my gosh, you need to hurry up.
So I checked my watch. It was a little bit after 7:00.
Well, it was a group of six guysthat was sitting not too far,
man. They had been talking, but they
looked at me when I walked up, but they didn't say nothing.
One of these guys got up and he walked over to me and he said,

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hey man, you want to play basketball with his necks?
And I looked at him and then I kind of looked down to what I
was wearing. And then I looked back up at him
like, dude, I'm not, I'm not dressed to play basketball.
I said no, you know, I'm, I'm waiting on somebody.

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And he said, Oh yeah, who's that?
Now, maybe it's a time frame or maybe just where I'm from, but
if a total stranger walk up to you and ask you, you know, about
your business, it's basically none of your business.
So. But I wasn't gonna be rude like

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that. I just was like, well, when she
get here and you see her, if youknow her, then you know who I'm
waiting, he said. Oh, OK, he said.
By the way, man, my name is her.I said, what's up, Herman?
My name is stubbed out. So we dapped up and he sat down
and started talking to, OK, no, we just, you know, where you

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from? Nebraska.
He said. Nebraska, you said, I I know you
got an accent. And I busted out laughing when
he said that. I'm like, I'm from Nebraska, you
from Louisiana. And you got the nerve to tell
somebody that they got an accent.
But I didn't realize that I do have a accent.

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I just to me, I've never. I just am tone deaf to it, I
guess. But we just talking.
So here come one of the other guys.
Hey, man, you gonna play basketball with this or what?
And I'm not here to play basketball.
Can't you tell by what I got on?He like, oh, what you here for?
I'm like, I'm waiting on somebody.

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Who's that again? When she get here, steer, you'll
know where I'm breaking up now until eventually all the guys
came over. Now they was giving me names but
I'm pretty sure these were nameson adversities Diamond Little
Bit, Shorty Mac and names like that.

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And I'm. I just told him my name was
stuff. But we sat there, we, you know,
chit chatted till they wouldn't play.
But I didn't get a sense that they were up to anything wrong.
It just seemed to me like some dudes that was at the park on a
Friday night and rather than being out selling drugs or
robbing liquor stores or murdering or raping somebody,

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they choose to spend a time in the park.
Sorry, that bird. I might have to go inside, but
they went and played basketball and I checked my watch nice a
little bit after 7:30, 735 come 740 come by 7:45.

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I started getting that feeling in my stomach.
I didn't drove all the way out here to Istanbul and she done
stood me up, man. I said OK, well let's see early
enough. I'm gonna just go down and you
know, go get something. He can go down in the French
quarters and I'm just make a night of it.

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So I'm getting ready to leave about 5 days eight.
And Herman said, what happened, man, what happened?
She stood you up. I said it looks that way.
He said, well, you might we'll stay and play basketball with us
Now. I've been fishing since I was 12
and I always keep a change of clothes in the trunk of my car.

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One fishing pole and a small tackle box and some teeny shoes
because I never know when I'm beout driving somewhere and I see
a body of water that look like Ineed to find all sin.
So I had that in the trunk of mycar and I actually, I had just
got this car. I got a 1978 Monte Carlo.
It was copper with a half white top and it had the velour

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interior on the seat. I love that car.
I mean, I absolutely love that. I'm like, man, this vehicle, I
got it. Yeah, I'm gonna treat you like a
baby. So I said, you know what?
I'm gonna do that. So I went in the bathroom and
changed clothes, put my stuff inthe other clothes I had on the

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car and I went play basketball with.
Now we play basketball off and on until midnight because also
outdoor basketball courts Mondaythrough Thursday.

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The lights. What year?
Was this? 1981 It was 1981 and the once I

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changed my clothes, I'm sorry I lost my place for a minute.
Once I changed my clothes, we went out there and played
basketball. And I played basketball with
them off and on for the next 4 hours because oh, that's where I
left off. The public parks, the lights
stay on till 9:00, Monday through Thursday.

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Fridays they stay on till 10 andthen Saturdays they stay on till
midnight and then Sunday they don't turn them on at all.
So like I said, when we weren't playing basketball, we were
sitting on the bleachers talkingabout what we did wrong, what we
needed to do to win the next game, You know, stuff like that.

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Or they was asking me questions about Nebraska.
So when the lights went off, I'mlike, all right, fellas, well, I
guess I'll see y'all later. And I was gonna go to the car
and I stopped. And I'm like, hey, where's the
closest liquor store, you know, after drinking that hot faucet

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water in the park? Like I need a cold beer and I
believe it was Diamond. I said.
Well, hey, we bout to go right now.
We just piercing up some chains together, decide, you know what
we gonna get. I said, well I got $5 on it.
Y'all come up with the rest. We get a 12 pack or a case of

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beer and you know, we can do this.
So they were there trying to count a change up and it's dark
in the park. You only got lights from the
street light now coming into thepark.
And they said, OK man, we ready?Now at this time, I made a

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decision that changed my life because I could have let these
six sweaty dudes get in my MonteCarlo, but that's my baby.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Y'all not kidding here.

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You froze. Can you hear me?
Hello. Hello.
I don't hear you anymore. Are you there?

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Hello. Yeah, I'm here.
It froze for a minute. OK, yeah, it did.
That was strange as soon as you went in.
So I'll, I was telling you aboutthe decision I made.
So I just pride, vanity, call the way she will.

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I'm like, I'm not getting in my car and I.
Think you froze? Again what?
OK. You.
Froze again. Yeah, I'm wondering what's going
on. I'm looking.
I got a good connection. OK.
I'm sorry about that. Outside.

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Yeah, I don't. Oh, I know.
I was closer to my Internet whenI was in the back.
So we try this again and see what's going on.
The I just wasn't gonna let themguys get in my car.
I'm just no, no. Now at this time.

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I had bought a gun when I was inNebraska.
I had a 357 Magnum and it was inthe trunk of the car.
I never considered grabbing it because as I said, I didn't feel
like I was in any danger while Iwas with these dudes.
I'm like y'all gonna do something.

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I mean, y'all neighborhood, you know, I could have waited until,
you know, shortly after the everybody left hot apart to do
what you're gonna do now. When I was headed out to the
park, I had to come up. This thing is called airline

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Highway. Airline highway is not that far.
It's like maybe a half a block from where I was at.
So they act, We exit out the other side of the park and we
walk down the street like we're going to Airline highway.
But there's some railroad tracksright there and trains run all

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over Louisiana. I didn't think it about anything
out of the ordinary for that. But they turn to go down the
river tracks. I don't know why.
Initially I'm thinking we're going to walk to winn-dixie
because it was, it probably was about 3/4 of a mile away.

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But they turned and got on the railroad tracks and started
walking down the tracks. Now, on the left side of the
tracks, there's three buildings.It's a junkyard tire shop and a
lumberyard on the right side. It's this field of thistles.

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Now, I don't know if you know what a Thistle is, but when it
starts off growing, it looks like a dandelion.
It's got those leaves with the little little needles on them.
Thistles grow in the brass that they usually top out about 5-6
feet, but they get these long leaves on them and they got a
single purple flower on the top.But the way they grow, they're

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they're just in mass, I mean a whole bunch right there.
So if you would just happen to run through them, trust me, you
get hit by them, them needles, and I call them hypodermic
needles because if they stick you, you're gonna know you've
been stuck. Now since it ranked so much in
Louisiana, but this was I was seeing was 7 to 8 feet tall.

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But when you get on the railroadtracks and the size kind of fall
away so you're type, you're elevated.
I could barely see over some of them but I guess that field was
maybe a hundred 150 yards as I'mlooking to my right.
But you can see behind them there were houses was the

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neighborhood. I mean right across the street
from the park there were houses right there I was in and every
but I wasn't rule or anything like that And I could see some
back porch lights on or if you looking at the right angle
between the houses you can see the house cross street had maybe
they front porch light out. So we're walking, crunching on

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the white rocks, and me and Herman, we're bringing up the
rear and I'm looking around. And Herman just out of the blue,
he said, hey man, he start asking me questions about kids.

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But babies, you know, how often do you gotta feed them a newborn
baby? And I'm like when they hungry,
but usually it's every two, 2, 1/2 hours, like, oh, you know
how much you feed them Two to four oz.
And I, you know, I thought it was strange, but it didn't

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really resonate. But then me that there was
something, you know, where he was going with it.
So then he said, well, you not change diapers.
I said, yeah, I know I changed diapers.
Is it hard? So I explained to him about
changing diapers and then, you know, I'm kind of looking at
inside. I like, you know, dude, what?

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Then he said, well, when they get sick, how do you know they
sick? I said you take them to the
hospital. Oh, well, you so you don't know
what be causing a fever or something like that.
I'm like, that's what the doctors for.
And I'm like, why are you askingall these questions about kids,
man? What?
What? What's going on?

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And I don't know why you scared now.

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It seemed like you either shouldhave been scared.
Whatever time Y'all was sneakingaround having your little
triest, that's when you should have been scared about being
discovered. And he said, what's the triest?
I said a hook up, OK, It's just a hook up.
He's like, oh, why you just didn't say that.
I said I did. But anyway, he said, well, my,
you know, man, I said, well, what are you so scared about?

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He said because I don't want to be the type of father my father
would. I said what kind of father you
have. He said he wasn't ever around.
He said I know who he is and I know where he live at.
But, you know, we don't talk. I'm like, I'm sorry to hear
that, man. But I said you just answered
your own question. He said what you mean?

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I said, you said you didn't wantto be like your father, right?
He said, yeah. I said then don't, then don't.
Don't leave your son or daughterjust because you're not getting
along with the mom. Don't do that.
Always be there for that kid. You don't have to be with your
your child's pain mom in order to be a good father.

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And since you already have livedthat life, not having your
father be prevalent in your lifeand I guess some of the things I
was saying because of the words I was using, he might not a guy
because he was asking me what does prevalent mean.
So I had to kind of no offense to him, but I kind of had to

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thumb it down a little bit. I see it.
It means that you shouldn't. I said I'm not going to give you
the definition if you want to look it up, but you just want to
make sure you be a better father, be there for your kid,
just be there for your kid. Regardless of what's going on
with with his mom or her mom, bethere for your kid.

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It's like what that's the plan. He said me, he said.
But I'm just scared because I don't know nothing, I said,
well, you know the most important part?
You know how to get somebody pregnant.
Now you just gotta learn the rest.
I said ask your mom and your grandmother if you got any
questions about kids. If they can't answer it, go to
the library and get a book. Now, I knew about kids.

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I wasn't no expert being, but I knew about kids.
So he's like, OK, so I'm looking, you know, we walking,
I'm looking around and he's like, what?
Did you see something? But in between you getting to
the second light, there's an area of gloom and I went out.

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It's it's dark. If I was to see somebody walking
toward me up the tracks I will see their silhouette if they
weren't directly under light andI'll tell you what they
silhouette look like. But I couldn't describe what
they facial futures were. So we were under the first light
because as I said we was walkingin the rear of everybody else

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and I'm looking around and and he asked you know did you see
something He said, I said no. He said, well there's a big
black dog that stay in the junkyard and I looked over at
the junkyard like really? He said yeah sometimes he get
out. He said I don't know what type
of dog it is he he might be he looked like he half lab and half

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Rottweiler half Rottweiler and German Shepherd.
But it's a big black dog. I'm like oh that's nice to know.
I said that to myself. He's like, if he get out, he
gonna run toward you just pick up some rocks and throw him at
him and start hollering. And usually he, you know, he
gonna keep barking, he might grab, but he gonna run off.
I'm like, oh, OK now that is good to know, OK, I said.

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But no, I didn't see no dog. So we're walking out the first
light into that area of gloom and we still kind of make a
small talk. He asked me a couple more
questions about kids. But you know, we walk on on

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these rocks and it's that crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch.
So just before we got to the Second Street light, we just
bought to come out that area gloom and I was turning my head
to look to the right and something came out of them

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thistles. Now at this time I'm 5 foot 11,
I weigh 225 lbs, I can bench press 300 lbs and I can squat
£500 because I was playing football and I'm, you know,
gearing up because I always wanted to plan the NFL.

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I'm not scared of no man, woman,child that walked this earth.
I know. Even if it hadn't been Andre to
John Hulk Hogan, I knew enough about fighting that my brother
told me if you fighting a biggeropponent they can chase you
around. They carrying all that extra
mass. They gonna start getting tired
as soon as you see them start sucking wind, chop the tree down

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And he told me places they hit to bring them down.
I'm like, OK, so I'm not worriedabout no, I wouldn't worry about
any of them dudes. And also I'm running a four 240
at this time. When I get ready to go, I'm
going and I'm going fast, so I knew I could outrun everybody

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that was with me because I've been doing on the basketball
court. So for some reason when like I
said, I did not see it clearly, I this was looking to the right
and I've seen something black inmy peripheral.
I didn't even turn my head to look to see it was.
I took off running. So I guess my primordial

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instinct kicked into where it was like, you don't even want to
see, just know that it's dangerous and you need to exit
the vicinity. I took maybe four or five steps
and I'm about to downshift and go to that next year.
And I heard, I don't know if you've ever heard before, but

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the sign of a body, when it hitsthe ground on some rocks and
slide a little bit, I heard that.
And then Herma said, don't leaveme.
But I can't describe out of all the words I know.

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I can't describe what it was in his voice other than to say it
was heart rending. That was.
I've never heard that any human voice before.
I mean he it was a scream and I'm, you know, so I guess

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whatever he said, it affected meinto my heart because I'm
thinking it's that damn dog froma junkyard.
I don't know if it tripping or if he fail, but I ain't gonna
leave him to get mauled. Now.
I just met them that night. It would have been normal human

(52:30):
behavior to run off and lead himto his face.
But I'm like, I can't let him because I've been bit by dog
before and it's not pleasant. So he said some get some rocks,
turn around and start hollering.And you know, so I'm kind of

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slid to a stop now. I don't know if it's just a
black people thing or if it's any race thing, but when you
running and you start running bysomebody, if they hear you're
running, they don't look back tosee what you're running from.
They just take off. We'll figure it out later on.
We get safe. All we know is she's running for
something, so it must be dangerous.

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Well, the other guys took off running because they heard me
coming. They just bolted, so I don't
know how far they ran down the tracks, but I slid to a stop and
I turn around. I bent down.
I picked up two handfuls of rocks, cocked my right arm back,
and I started running back toward Herman Would he's laying

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just outside of the second light.
I could see him. He's on his back.
He's propped up on his elbows and he's looking up in, you
know, looking up, and I'm looking at what's on top of him.
And I'm like, that is a big blankety blank dog, that big

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dog, because I could see the ears and the outline of the head
and but it was crouched down to where you know how if you tuck
your chin down towards your chest.
It had his nose tucked down likethat because their faces might
have been 6-8 inches apart, but it was just focused on him.

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And I'm like you know do she gotdo he does it have his his face
in his mouth You know how you know what the Hell's going on
Because he wasn't growling. Herman wouldn't screaming.
He was struggling. I'm like that is I was just
blown away by the size because he looked like a child up under

(54:47):
an adult up under this day. And I was like, what I'm
thinking dog. I'm thinking dog.
But something's telling me that's not matching up that's,
that's, I mean you could see theears and the head but that's not
matching up. So I I, you know I got my on my

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arm cocked and I'm standing there looking because I'm trying
to figure out you know what typeof dog is this.
He they said big black dog, but he didn't say that This was no
world record breaker, said big black dog.
So I heard the guys start comingback down the tracks and I'm

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standing directly in the middle of the tracks and I can hear him
a lot of cursing. What the blank is that?
What what what? You know what the blank is that
and it you know what what is it doing to her?
Me you know I'm hearing all thisand I'm not saying nothing
because I'm like I gotta what? You know, what is this thing?

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And a few seconds later I heard somebody say don't shoot it.
And I didn't know anybody had a gun.
I found out later on we got to the liquor store who had the gun
because he had it in his little Fanny pack.
And I'm like, no, don't shoot it, idiot.
I'm standing right here in the middle of the tracks.

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Now I'm not about to turn aroundand look and see who got the
gun, because I need to keep my eyes on this thing in front of
me. As soon as Shorty Mac said that,
that thing looked up. And then came two steps with put
from just past the shoulders to the head under that second

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light. And the thing that rattled me
the most first was this hand comes out of the dark and then
laces down on the railroad track.

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I'm sorry, on the rocks I taughtmy no raccoon Paul.
I'm not talking about a dogs Paul.
I'm talking about a 5 digit handlook just like mine thumb in the
same place except for it's threetimes my size and it's got these
long claws on it. They were approximately 2 1/2

(57:20):
three inches. Now they were curved, but they
weren't wickedly curved. But they were curved enough so
that when they set his hand down, the tips of the fingers
would not make contact with the ground.
It was on the claws. And I'm looking like, you know,
I'm seeing this fur and his forearm and I'm like, no, I'm

(57:45):
like what, you know, colorful, colorful, colorful, colorful
language Is that. And when it started coming into
a light, the eyes weren't glowing before then.
So I'm assuming that they were reflecting a light that was
there. But you see these golf ball size

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eyes with a black pupil, a little bitty black pupil, but
the eyes were the colors. If you take the full moon when
it's yellow and the full moon when it's white and mix them,
that's what color the eyes were and it wasn't snarling, nothing
like that. It just was looking.
But this head, I'm sorry that whenever I talk

(58:42):
about this, it takes back to that moment that that head had
to be 2426 inches. Now there was fur.
So you know how a dog has a rough so when I say that
measurements I'm going from the rough to the rough but just the
muzzle was it wasn't extremely long but it was wide like I

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guess the best description. If I had to make a comparison
between the breeder dog and whatI see, you be Alaskan Malamute
and but just a whole lot bigger and I'm looking and I'm like,
OK, OK, mom, something in my mind was like, OK, I'm looking

(59:30):
at a blanket werewolf that that's that's what I'm looking
at. Just a calm voice in my head
said that. And you know my arm has come
down to my side and I guess I'm just letting the rock trickle
out and this thing is looking. But it did a sweep and looked at
all of us. It was a smooth motion with a

(59:51):
slight hiccup. Like, I see you, I see you, I
see you, I see you, I see you. And then it looked past me and
then must have been looking at the dude that had the gun
because the demeanor changed. The ears went back and there was
a low ground, but I could feel it.

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I don't know if it came from my feet and went up or my head and
went down, but I could feel it and.
You know the dudes, they really started freaking out to you,
man. What the What the hell is that?
You know that's a monster that. It's a monster.
It's a monster about. I heard her keep saying that and

(01:00:32):
I'm just like I'm getting ready to die.
I don't see no way out of situation, because when it came
forward, it was less than 10 feet away from I got a real good
look, more than a look than I ever would have wanted to have.
But just when you look at something and you know there's

(01:00:58):
no way I'm going to survive a physical confrontation with
this, that's the way I felt. I'm like I'm getting ready to
die. Mock.
If there's such a thing as your life flash before your eyes,
that that's how we started to go.
Because I'm thinking I'm going to heaven and I'm gonna be in

(01:01:20):
one of them 33 gallon garbage bags in pieces.
They gonna have to figure out a way to pull me back together.
Just let me walk through the pearly gates.
But you did, Roy. You are dead.
Ain't nothing to me. Who gonna show up to save you?
Batman ain't gonna show up. Superman ain't gonna be there.

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And trust me, I need somebody with some extra abilities to
save me from this thing. I just, and this is just looking
after the top half. And I'm like the muscle these
this thing arm is longer from the elbow to the wrist and from

(01:02:02):
the wrist to the shoulder. So now that I know what I know,
it makes sense to me how they can go about so easily on all
fours, 'cause looked like that was his natural state.
And as I'm when, when, when, when it growled.

(01:02:26):
I'm not gonna lie. I stood there and I've urinated
on myself. And I'm not ashamed to say that
I don't know if that is something that every animal does
in a situation like that, but I liken it to.

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I'm getting rid of excess body weight in case I gotta run
again. I need to be as light as I can.
That's that's the only thing that kind of makes sense to me.
I did. It doesn't make sense to me why
you would use a bathroom on yourself while you're afraid.
But it has happened to quite a few people, so maybe I need to
do more research on that. But you know, as I'm standing

(01:03:13):
there looking at it, I'm really looking at it.
And the eyes, the hands, the muscles in the forearm.
I mean, her forearms were probably four times bigger than
mine. I mean just just massive.

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And to see that the the way the shoulders muscles in the
shoulders were, because I don't know how to answer to what they
are, but for something that has from the waist down the build of
a dog and then from the waist upto the neck be shaped like a
human being and then you got shoulders and arms and hands.

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I I don't have to answer to that.
But I know that when I seen thatthing I thought I was gonna die
and Herman down when she came forward, that kind of put her
hindquarters right over Herman'sface so he would be able to be
the one to tell you about the waterworks and stuff like that.

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I I can't comment on that. But he still, he didn't try to
get away. He wasn't screaming.
He he he it's like he had checked out.
He was in the same posture. So since I didn't take my
opportunity to run like I initially did, once my mind kind

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of accepted, OK, you gonna die. But she didn't do nothing but
stand there and look at us, And she growled and laid her ears
back. So I'm thinking, OK, maybe I can
get out of here. Maybe.

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And I started. I was looking at that thing
because there's a fence behind these.
The buildings I told you about, it's that tall chain link fence
with the three strands of barbedwire.
Now, the middle building, if I could make it to the top of that
fence, I know I'm gonna get chewed up on that barbed wire.
I'll take that. As opposed to get chewed up by

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werewolf. I'll take that all day any day.
Then I would have been able to jump from the top of that fence
to that building and I could have ran across it and dropped
down and I would been right nextto airline highway.
You could hear cars going up anddown the high and what all the
yelling that them deuce was doing.

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Somebody I'm thinking I'm not sure had to hear since one of
them houses because they weren'tbeing good, they was yelling.
Now the dog in the junkyard didn't go off if he was even
there. So that's when I'm like if
somebody had a drove up turned off airline highway and went up

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that street, if they had a look to they left down the railroad
tracks they would have been ableto see us.
Didn't no cars come. Now it's speech after 12:30 AM
on a Friday, so there's still traffic out.
But where? I didn't see any.
At least I didn't see anything. But I wouldn't look for a car

(01:06:38):
because I'm focused on this monster in front of me.
So I'm thinking if I could make it to that fence, I might have a
chance. Now, I haven't seen this thing
run yet and now, but now that I know what I know, I might have

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made it to the fence ain't got my spine ripped out.
But I wouldn't even been able tostart the climb.
It wasn't gonna happen. So I turned my feet in that
direction and you know you don'tgravel and you do that.
It's gonna make noise because I,you know, I didn't want to have

(01:07:21):
any extra MO moves I had to make.
I want to have my feet pointed so when I get ready to go, I'ma
go. Soon as I did that, he was
focused on me like everybody else did she look right at me

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and it was like the look that this thing had on his face was

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like, I know you and that's bothered me for a long time.
It's bothered me for a long time.
But as I said, I got a real goodlook at and that's when I really
started looking. Well after I peed on myself

(01:08:52):
again because she, she did show a little bit of a sign of
aggression or maybe was a warning because she did bare her
teeth, but she never opened her mouth And them canines that she

(01:09:14):
had, they will put Africa, a male African lion, sent teeth to
shine. There's about 3 inches long.
And she did that grin that dogs do.
And I'm like, man, it's a rapper, Roy.
It's a rap. But she did that when the guy
was pointing the pistol ladder, when she laid her ears back.

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But when it was looking at me, Istarted really looking at her.
And for her to be in the thistles, she should have had
leaf debris on her, just maybe some dirt or or mud on her
hands, 'cause, you know, like I said, it rains a lot in
Louisiana and Louisiana has thissmell about it.

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New Orleans do it. I mean, it's a smell.
I don't know if it's rotten vegetation or what, but it's
very humid there. So even if she had a had a
smell, I don't think unless we'll that close, I probably
would smelt, but I didn't smell it.
The only thing I smell was her breath.
And because she was that close when she did that ground that

(01:10:22):
smelled like she had ate something and just never ever
brush their teeth. It was kind of like doggy breath
but but more but overall in a different situation with a great
deal of distance between us or maybe a glass enclosure that she

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couldn't break, I would have classified her as beautiful for
whatever she was. I mean, it looked like she had
just came from the groomers, butthe black you?
Know she was a girl. You kept you keep saying she.
I'm a comedy that I just submitted the the Blackness and

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I've shared a few pictures with you, but the that's black as
they are. It's almost like they can absorb
light. And I don't understand.
And I know there's others that come in different color
variations, but the black ones, for some reason it looks like

(01:11:30):
it's otherworldly black. Like they can actually just
devour light because she was really, really black.
But any light tones that she had, like her eyes or she looked
like she had splashes of Gray onher like a patchwork quilt, I'd
be the best, yes. There was no definite design.
It's just for the splash. You're a splash there.

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So once she looked at me like that and I canceled the runaway
thing and urinated on myself. Now twice my Converse are good
and soaking wet and I'm like man, this is she was looking at

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me and something weird happened.Now if you've ever had a dog
that half leaves and they might be sitting next to you or laying
down and then they make that real quick jerk and start biting
at the base of they tail her on they tail.
She twitched like that. Now I'm not saying that she
started chewing for fleas or nothing, but she twitched like

(01:12:37):
that and then she stood up. OK, wait a minute.
Stop the presses. Stop the presses.
What I'm thinking is a werewolf,and we're not thinking about the

(01:12:57):
traditional term of wherewolf. This thing stood up with no
snapping and popping. That some people say where
they're here, where the hip sortof joint is what?
None. That she just smoothly stood up.
And I'm looking up and I'm like,oh, everybody's dead.
This thing stood the hell up. But she looked over in the

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thistles and that's when I got to see her standing up.
Now, I've never seen a tail, butI saw four breasts.
And I'm not talking about four doggy breasts.
I saw four look like human female breasts that were covered
with fur. Chris.
Her hair was only about two inches.

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I could see she had the V shape coming from her rib cage down to
her hips. She probably had a six pack now.
I didn't look lower to see if she had four more breaths.
As a traditional female of cane I would have, but I've seen four
and they were spaced apart just enough.

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By my guesstimation I could haveslid my hand in between the top
one and the lower. Not that I was planning on doing
that or had any desire to do that and that will.
And that's when I was like and it's a female too, what?
That, you know. That just took me to a whole
another WTF minute and she looked over in the thistles and

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I'm looking up and that's when Igot to see do a size
guesstimation of how tall she was.
Now I just played basketball forfour hours.
I've been playing basketball since I probably was.
She had to be between 9:00 and 9:00 and a half feet.
Her arms hanging down would havebeen approximately 5 feet long
from the shoulder to the tip of the claws.

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I put her weight and right aboutwith the muscles because that's
when I got to see the thickness of the thighs.
Her thighs put mine shame. She probably would have been.
I did another show and I think in the moment I may have given
her more pounds and I should have.
But I know my father used to drive a semi trailer for a

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packing house, so I've seen the bulls and the cows because I
would ride with him sometime in the summer.
I've seen him in the back when we stopped to get gas something.
I'll be looking through the holes or when they unload and
reload. So I've become decent when it
comes to guessing away. She was, I'm gonna say about 505

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hundred and 10 lbs And with the muscles, because muscle mass is
heavier than than soft weight. I'm like, oh, you would have did
she could have dunked the basketball standing flat footed
with arm length despair and I'm like, I'm looking up at her and

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like I said she jerked. It was it was so freaking fast.
It was like man, if she had to reached out to slap you, you
wouldn't even have time to throwyour hand up.
You probably wouldn't have time to blink and your head is gone.
I mean she was extremely fast and just that that basic
movement. So she looked over in the
thistles and I turned my head and I looked and I seen these

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six red lights. Now I already told you how black
it was back there. So imagine being 60 feet back in
the thistles where that light's not going to penetrate, but they
were in a triangle formation, like a person standing in the
front and then a person standingto the right and a person
standing to the the left. Now a lot of people are saying,

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and no disrespect to them, that those must have been her babies.
I've described how the these lights look.
It's like if you take a reflector off a bicycle, take a
black magic marker and start in the center and start filling it
in until you're about an 8th 1/8of an inch away from the edge.

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That's what I saw. I don't know any animal that had
eyes like that. And plus her eyes weren't red,
but I just don't feel like thosewere her pups because her
breasts were not the breast of anursing female.
They weren't sag or anything. They look like a a woman that
goes to the gym to stays fit. She's not trying to bulk up, but

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she's trying to stay fit becausewhen she went up there was a
slight bounce, but it wasn't a lot of jiggle.
So I'm like, I'm going to alwaysdisagree that them was puffs
out. What they were, I have no idea.
Some people have said, well maybe that was the government
there, maybe it was aliens. I have no idea.

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Or maybe it was a different typedog.
Man, I've had so many theories run past me, I I don't know.
I can't say yes definitely that's what it was.
But I looked over there and I seen that and I looked, went
looking back at her and I seen her slightly bend her hind legs.

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And she jumped off the railroad tracks into the thistles.
And when she hit it, she hit it running towards them lights.
But she went down on all fours. That's when I got to see how
fast he had to be doing 60 within three strikes because
them thistles was laying down but they was popping right back
up like the wind had went over. They weren't flying up in the

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air and stuff like that. And I'm like, wait a minute, how
the hell is you gonna jump in there with them long ass needles
on them leaves and you just running through.
Now I'm like, Oh, my God. So I just watch until the
Thistle stop moving. And then when I looked, I didn't
see the lights anymore. So I ran down the Herman and

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here come the other dudes and they still like, of course ain't
nobody say, hey, stub, you OK? You OK stuff?
No. No.
Nobody harassed it was Herman. Herman, Herman.
And I'm OK because I was OK got you know I'm wet, but I'm alive,
So we'll get to Herman. And I'm like, Herman.
Herman, you all right? You all right?

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And I'm looking him in his face.Herman's eyes is blank.
He's got a little drool coming out of the corner of his mouth.
He's not, you know, we shaking him and stuff.
And Herman, Herman, get him up and he's pretty much.
I'm gonna say he was dead weight, but he wasn't helping us

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a lot. Now, in my opinion, we should
have went back to the park. But they like, come on man,
let's get down here to the liquor store so we can call the
police. And I'm like, what?
But I didn't run off and leaving, so I'm not gonna leave

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you now. And plus after what I just seen
running through there, my herd mentality is real strong right
now. I'm not trying to go off by
myself. I'm not so.
Even though I'm kind of questioning this moving the back
of my head, I just say it loud. So we going down the tracks and
we have Dragon half Karen, but once you get past that third

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light, it's black down there, but you only got to go another
4050 feet and then there's a trail that goes through the
thistles. But they have been going this
way for so long that they've actually beat the ground down,
the dirt. So nothing's growing.
And you can actually walk two people side by side.

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But I'm like, that thing went inthis direction and now I want to
go in this direction. Like, we got to get down here so
we can use the phone. We need to get to the phone.
So we left the park at 12:35. When we got to the liquor store
it was about 1254 cuz back then the liquor store close at 1:00

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and be kind of we we come out the back, thank God there's
lights all on the back over there's one car park back there.
We come around the side of building, come out to the front.
There's this little lip right bythe the big window on the liquor
store. So put Herman there and I got my
hand in his chest. If I let him go, he gonna face

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plant. Three of the dudes went into the
liquor store and you could hear they all talking at once to the
clerk. Man, it's a monster.
We just seen a word phone. You know they understood do what
is looking at on like OK, what the hell is y'all talking about
basically. So finally he whistles like I

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don't know what y'all been smoking.
I don't know which I've been snorting.
I don't know which I've been. She make your selection and
bring it up here to the counter and pay for it because it's I'm
getting ready to close. Man, you don't understand.
We just seen the monster. Now Y'all said when we was on
the track that y'all coming downhere to use the phone.

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Ask him, can you use the damn phone?
So they kept talking. Finally he said, you know what?
I got time for this nonsense, man.
So they come out of the store and he locks the door behind.
I'll tell them here come and hold Herman, man.
Come and hold Herman. Come and hold him.

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So I think it was Shorty Mac or little bit that came in.
It was hold Herman. So I go up to the thing and I'm
knocking on the glass. Now you don't took the drawer
his Jurado catcher to his count and I'm knocking on the window.
He kind of looked up at me like what?
And I just did the motion for can I use the phone?

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And he just kind of did that shoe and go away motion and kept
counting money. And I knocked and I said, man,
just let me use the phone or canyou call the police?
He said I'm ready to close now. Before they came out, before he
locked the door, wanted to do said, man, it's at your car in
the back. He said, yeah, why?
He said, can you at least move your car around the front while
we're here? Because I'm telling you know

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everything I love. There's a werewolf back there on
the railroad tracks, said yeah, right, whatever.
And close the door. Now, after all these years then
went by, I had an epiphany. I could have made him call the
police. All I had to do was pick up one

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of them rocks out there in the parking lot and throw it through
that big old window. He would have called the police
with lickety split. But then of course, that brings
me to another issue. OK, now you vandalize and stuff,
so I'm like, OK, whatever. So while I'm trying to get him
to let me use the phone, I can hear the other dudes talking,

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but I really wouldn't focus on them.
I'm trying to get this guy here to let me use the phone, But
once he turned me down last time, I'm like, OK, so I turn
and I hear one of the dudes, I can't remember.
He said, man, what is this whitestuff in Herman's hair?
I can't get it out. And I'm like, what the hell are

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they talking about? So I walk down there and I'm
kind of shouldering and I'm like, what are you talking
about? He's like, man, he got his white
stuff in his hair. I can't get it out.
So I lick my thumb, my forefinger.
And I started rubbing it becauseI brushed it first.
And then I licked my not wiping.And it's not coming out.
It's not getting light. And I'm kind of like, wait a

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minute, what? So I took my hands and kind of
parted his hair and all the way down to his scalp.
He's got a white spot in his hair.
It's a little bit bigger than the 50 Cent piece.
Now I know 110% that when I met him, his hair was all black.
When he sat next to me that night on the bleachers, his hair

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was all black. When we played basketball, his
hair was all black. I got to see him from every
angle and I'm like, I don't knowwhat to make it is, but Hermes
still is not responding. You know they didn't gave him a
few like slaps. And I think, well, I hope they

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was like because you know they was kind of anxious so they
might hit him a little bit harder than that Kenny, but he's
still not responding. Then we find out he done
evacuated both of his bowels andI'm like and we still got to get
you home. So now we got to take the long
way home because I don't care what you tell me, I'm not going

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back through them thistles and my damn, she ain't going back up
in railroad tracks. You could cancel Christmas if
that's what you expect Roy to do.
It took us about 45 minutes because we're half care and half
dragon hunt. Any noise that we heard that did

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not sound like a car going by, if the wind blew some branches
together we would immediately stop and kind of be in a semi
circle, everybody looking. And we like we we will be
talking. But you shut up when you hear
this weird noise and you know, like what was that?
Why was that? I don't know.

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Now I'm not saying a whole bunch, but the dudes is talking
man. It's a blankety blank werewolf.
Did y'all see that thing? And Diamond kept saying
overgrow. He said it had titties, man,
titties. I can't believe it had titties.
And I'm like, it had a whole lotmore than that.
Did you not see them teeth? Did you not see them claws?
And they was like, well, stub, what did you see?

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You was closest. I'm like, actually I wasn't
close as Herman was the closest and he not telling nothing, but
I told him what I seen and they was like, Yep, Yep, that's what
I've seen. So that's when I found out
Diamond is the one that had the freaking, uh, snub nose 38, man.
I was gonna shoot it in the head.
And I'm looking like take that pop gun and shoot that thing.

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You see how big she was. Dude, we were all gonna get
killed. No, I would hit it in the head.
I'm like, I'm. I said where was you standing at
when you was pointing the gun? He said right behind you.
I'm like, and you seeing the monster, your hand is shaking.
So you gonna dude, dude, So it took us longer than it should

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have, in my opinion, because nowI'm just, I'm ready to go, you
know, my feet is wet, it done got cold, my underwear, my
shorts is wet. And I'm like, I'm not liking
this feeling. But I still am not 'cause I
don't know exactly where I'm at now, 'cause I never been out
here. So I gotta stay with them to get
home. So we make it back to the park.

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We cut across the park and lo and behold, when you come out
the other side and go across thestreet, her, me live right
there, I'm like, OK, so just like they did at the liquor
store, three of them run up the steps and I got Herman and I'm
holding so he don't face plant by.

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I got him to sit down on the edge of the porch and one of
them is knocking on the door. Another one's ringing her
doorbell and another one is overthere hitting on the window now.
It's after 2:00 in the morning now, and she's looking

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like she's looking at him. I'm standing on the ground, but
I got Herman, and I'm looking ather and Herman, Monster
werewolf. She's like, shut up.
She just said that because evidently they've been knowing
each other since kindergartner Grace was like, shut up.

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They stopped talking, and she pointed one.
What happened? So he told her he didn't get to
tell her everything because whenhe got to something's wrong with
Herman. What you mean something wrong
with Herman? What's wrong with my baby?
And she kind of moved him out ofthe way.
She come walking, you know, through the edge of porch.
And she looked down and she seenme and she kind of looked him
for a minute. Like, I don't even know who the
hell you is. I don't know this.

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Like, I didn't say nothing to her, honestly.
Nothing. So she comes down and she, you
know, she grabbed Herman and sheshaking Herman Herman and
grabbed him up on his chin, making me look at him in his
face. And she's like, Oh my God, what
did y'all do to my baby? I do my baby.
Don't nobody leave. I'm calling the police.
When she started to go back up them steps, I laid Herman back

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down South that from his butt tothe back, his head was on the
porch. And I turned around and walked
out of her yard. And soon as I hit the concrete,
I flew up the street, now two houses up.
There was two women and a dude was sitting on the porch and I
heard one of the lady say, what is he running for?

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OK, you ain't gotta worry about that.
But I ran through the trunk of my car and guess in front of God
and everybody, I stripped out ofthem wet underwear and shorts.
I put on the ones that I was gonna wear on my date and I
jumped in my car and when I leftfrom the curb my back tires was
spinning. When I got down to the stop sign

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to get on Airline highway, I didn't even stop for it.
I pulled right out in the traffic and because I almost hit
the car and another car almost hit me and dude is honking his
horn and stuff man whatever. I flew straight home.
I ran inside. I'll lock my door.
I pushed the couch in front of the door, went in the kitchen

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and got the refrigerator and unplugged it and drug it in the
front room and put it in front of the couch and plugged it back
in. I went in the bedroom and got my
bullets down and my speed loaders and loaded them and I
said my 357 on the table. And then I grabbed my bottle of
Jack Daniels. I poured two shots trying to
calm my nerves. And then I started to replay of

(01:31:35):
what I seen. And as I was doing that, I said
I need to write this down, I need to write this down.
So I started writing it down andwas a whole lot of curse words
with question marks behind it. And I'm sitting there and I

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mean, I'm rattled. I honestly am, because after
I've seen it, now I got this journey to the liquor store,
then we gotta leave from the liquor store to go back if this
thing is coming back or stalkingus.
There were several places in that walk.
She could have ambushed us, at least picked off one or two of
us at a time. So I'm sitting there and I'm

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just. I'm thinking and I'm thinking
and I'm thinking like monsters are real.
Werewolves do exist. Roy.
You don't know how lucky. No, you wasn't lucky, dude.
You see, you know, for me anyway, I can't speak for

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anybody else, but I know something in my head snapped
that night. And I even had a period of time
where I was mad at my parents because I'm like, y'all lied to
me. You've been lying to me all
these years. You've been telling me monsters

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don't exist. It's just in movies and and and
books and stuff. Ain't no such thing as no real
monster. There's nothing under your bed.
There's nothing in the closet. There's nothing hiding around
the corner of the house. And I tell you, take the trash
out at 10:00 at night so that the garbage man could pick it up
the next one. You've been lying to me.
But that was rather immature me because at least I hope they

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didn't know and was just tellingus that.
But that's what he tells somebody when you don't have any
proof of what what really existsout there.
And when I think about, I got home.

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But one thing that really just kept, I kept hitting the rewind
on is supposed to meet that chick out there.
And she didn't show up. And the one thing that I didn't
tell you is this. When she stood up and she turned

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her head to look at them thistles.
I'm about 99% sure that in her left ear there was a gold hoop
earring. I seen this bright flash.
I know what gold looked like when this when light hits it.
If you know, you'd be twirling or whatever.
Now there's a 1% chance that it could have been some kind of

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tag, but I know when that shit came in the store, you know,
back in the day, they were wearing them big round hoop
earrings. Well, in her ear it looked more
like a bracelet, just for size comparison.
It didn't look as big as he would have looked in the human
being here. And you got breast and I'm like,

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so the chick was a werewolf. My date was a work.
That's the only thing I can wrapmy mind around at that time.
And I never seen her change. But here's the thing now.
I'm not saying that I'm special in any type of way.
I didn't have people cancel dates on me since then.

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Very seldom do they not show up.But at least I might get a text
or a phone call. She never called.
She never came by because I gaveher my telephone number.
Am I? And she never came back in the
store. And I even gave her a card for
the store. We give it to all the customers.
We put it in the bag, whatever they purchase.

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She never called. He didn't come back to the
store, which after that night, I'm glad she didn't come back in
the store because of where I wasat in my mindset.
I took my gun to work with me every day after that and I took
it in the store if she had. It came through that door and I
heard that bail. I would have blew her chest out

(01:36:05):
her back and then reloaded and try to separate her hair from
her body. That's how certain I was that
that's who it was that showed upon the railroad tracks.
You're not giving me any information about how to contact
you or where you live, but you got my info.
So I started. I drunk the majority that

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weekend. I didn't even go back outside.
I don't even think I got in the shower till the next morning
while the summer, and then I satdown and was drinking and I
think I got somewhere I could goto sleep.
So that's what I did for the next three days.
I didn't even go to work Monday.I called in Monday.
So when I went in Tuesday, I gotmy gun.

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And I'm like, every little noisethat I hear, I'm on high alert
if I couldn't really recognize it.
So my boss is like, she had beenwatching me.
She's like, were you OK? No, I'm not, she said.
What's the matter? Don't want to talk about it.
She's like when I said I don't want to talk about it because if

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I tell you ain't gonna believe. It's just kind of, you know,
looked at me like, OK, but she just kept at me.
Now by this time, I really, I was talking with with my aunt.
But I wouldn't talk to her a lot.
I would call and check to make sure she's OK.
But we weren't irregular communication, so my boss just

(01:37:38):
kept after me. She kept Roy, you OK?
I told you no, she said. What's the matter?
I don't want to talk about just just let it go.
She was like, well Dang, you called in sick yesterday, but
you don't seem like you're sick.I'm like, I was sick yesterday,
but it was a different kind of sick.
And she said, is it contagious? I'm like, if you seen what I
seen it is. It's just kind of looked at me

(01:38:01):
like, you know, I'm thinking this few weeks ago, well, not a
little bit more than a month. You hired the same rational
person and decided to give him ajob that you work, you know, you
work the same offices. He meet a girl, go out on a

(01:38:23):
date, and then when you see him again, he's the Raven lunatic.
You. What's wrong with me?

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But I need you to do something first.
You said what? Could you go back in the office
and get my final paycheck ready?Because I know you're gonna fire

(01:39:05):
me once I get done. Tell me you what happened.
She was like, why are you sayingthat You gonna fire me when I
get done? Tell me you what happened, she
said. Just tell me what happened.
So I told her, and she did pretty much the same thing
you're doing right now. Said for she had her hand up
under her, but she stood at the counter.

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She looked at me and she was like, that's all she will say.
And so when I got done talking, I'm like, OK, can you go get my
check ready now? She's like, oh, you seen a Luke
guru? And I looked, you know, I linked
back and looked at him like, have you not been listening to

(01:39:47):
what I've been saying? I'm not talking about no damn
dude named Luke, OK? And she kind of snot.
She said no Lou guru. And I'm like, the hell is that?
She said, that is a French werewolf.
I said that girl that came in here, she wasn't free.
She said, no, that was a Creole girl.

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I said, what does that mean? I didn't know none of this
Creole cage. And I didn't know nothing about
Geeky's. I didn't know nothing about none
of that stuff. So she's explaining to me, I'm
like, well, what what is Lou Guru?
She said well. According to what my grammar
told me, a little guru is a French one of these French

(01:40:33):
immigrants that came over here during time, one of them was a
werewolf. And you know, I'm standing there
looking at like, you know, go on.
And she's like, well, according to what my grammar told me, if
one of them bite you, then they pass on this curse to you and
you curse the Rome spend the remaining time that you have as

(01:40:55):
one of these things killing people and stuff.
But you have to find the one that bit you and killed it in
order to break the the curse. I said when she said kill, I'm
like, OK, hold on a minute, stopright there so you can kill him.
He said, well, what my grandmother told me is, yeah,
you they could be killed. How do you kill?

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And I said, wait, I actually gota pistol and a piece of paper.
I'm like, how do you kill him? She said you need some rock
salt, some oil and fire. And I kind of looked up at her
like, oh, so you gonna make fun of me now, huh?
She said. What you talking?
I said I asking for no recipe for no BBQ werewolf.

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I want to know how to kill him, she said.
Roy, I'm telling you. How do you supposed to be able
to kill him? I'm like, OK, but seem like you
making fun of me now? She said.
Nope. I'm telling you what my grammar
told me, She said You take the rock salt and you throw it on
the lugar roof because they supposed to be highly allergic
to rock salt. Then you got to put the oil on

(01:41:58):
them and then you set them on fire.
I said that's not gonna work forme.
And she said why? I said just my luck.
Throw this rock salt on this thing and get him extra
irritated and he burning or whatever.
Then I get the foil on him. Then I lied.
A master gonna set him on fire and the wind blow the matchup.
So now I gotta get killed three times worse than I was gonna

(01:42:21):
before I put the rock salt on. That's not gonna work for me,
she said. You are so funny, you know that.
I'm like, I'm telling you with my look.
That's probably the way it's gonna happen.
I'm like the silver work on him,she said.
Well, I don't know. I mean, my grandmother didn't
say nothing about Silver, but they have other, according to

(01:42:41):
other legend stuff, that's how you kill the werewolf, she said.
So that really happened to you? I said I got no reason to lie.
She said so. I ain't gonna get, I ain't gonna
be watching news one day and they pull that girl body off the
swamp or you find out that you raped her or something like
that. I said rape.
I ain't got rape nobody. And why would I cure her?

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She didn't even show up. She's like, well, you gotta
understand why I'm asked. I said no.
I don't have to understand why you asked me that.
I just told you the God's honesttruth and here you come me with
that. I kill her or something like
that, I said. But it's OK if you don't believe
me, can you go get my check ready?
She said you're not fired. I'm like, OK, but like I said I

(01:43:26):
continue to be jumpy. If a female customer came into
the store, can you help her? I'll, I'll take over.
Can you go and help her? She like, so now you scared all
women. I'm like, no, I'm scared of all
women. But right now I want to keep my
contact with females down to a minute.
Can you go and help her? So she would do that.

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And you know that night that that happened to me was July
9th, 1981. There was not a full moon you
can go back and look at after the chart.
There was not a full moon. That's why I was so freaking
black out there. I had to learn how to think

(01:44:20):
about things because that openedthe door in my head too.
It's possible as long as you willing to enrich yourself that
it's possible, no matter how crazy or far fetched you may
seem, just leave that door cracktoo.
It's possible because we don't know everything that's possible
and not possible. I mean, if you talk to some

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scientists when it comes to talking about magic, some
scientists will tell you magic is just a different type of
science. OK, all right, I'm willing to go
with that. But what I knew in my life at
that time, you don't learn how to think about things in a whole

(01:45:10):
perspective until you get older and you get experience.
So in my mind, I've seen the werewolf, but then you got to
think about the the forks that lead off that path to what could
have happened or what possibly could happen to you a little bit
later down the line. I don't know if I mean, I had to

(01:45:31):
sit and think about it because it's possibility.
What if Herman was the one that was supposed to lead me down the
railroad tracks to have that encounter?
What if one of the other dudes was in cahoots with that thing
to lead me down there? What if my boss knowing I got 1

(01:45:53):
relative in the state and I stayby myself?
Now, she wasn't checking on me on a regular basis.
So her and old girl could have been, you know, she could have
called her when I got hired and be like, hey, I got some fresh
meat for you need to come out here next week and check him
out, OK. She could have been.

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I had to accept that that was a possibility, that she my boss.
And because she was so calm whenI was telling her, she didn't
act surprised or not. So doing that and then thinking
about everything else that I started to learn because I
actually started going to the library I'm checking on.
I'm looking for anything I couldfind on werewolves.

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Of course, during those time it was a lot of information, but
you could get books on witchcraft and demonology.
So I even had the library and asked me, are are you planning
on doing a spell on somebody or are you a warlock?
And I looked there. I said, no, I'm just doing a
paper on, you know, for school and I'm writing on my turn

(01:46:56):
paper. She was like, oh, OK, Because I
noticed that I'm like, why are you paying attention to what I'm
checking out the library? Feel like, well, it's my job.
I said no, your job is to check the books out.
That's all your job did you? Ain't some we worried about, but
I would be in the library for hours in the back.
Then I got books piled up like you see on TV and I'm reading,
taking notes and stuff. Umm, my grades at school started

(01:47:19):
to suffer. I almost got kicked off the
football team because when we have an away game and we playing
at night, I spent more time scanning the crowd or looking up
under the bleachers. And my coach is like Stonefield,
What are you doing? Get your head in the game.
You supposed to be out there. And I'm like, oh, I'm sorry,
coach. I'm sorry.
These athlete dude. You OK?
No, I ain't OK. What's the matter with you?

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I'm just having some personal problems.
Well, you know, you can talk to me.
Not about this. I can't.
So what? I had, what I didn't have to,
but my escape was the bottle. I get off of work, I come home,
I lock the door, barricaded, andthen I get my Jack Danders Green

(01:48:01):
label down and I start drinking.That's the only I could go to
sleep because because the nightmares that I was having
after that, this thing is chasing me down the railroad
tracks and I could feel her breath on my neck.
And then to actually have a dream where you feel some
stickiest hand in your back above your waist and rip your
spinal column out or just grab you like a dog, grab a cheat toy
and start shaking you and stuff and then it's pulling you.

(01:48:22):
Just horrible nightmares. I wouldn't even turn the lights
out. And that went on for years.
Up until 2020 I was still sleeping with my lamp on.
I would not take that. If the only time that light went
out is when the bulb burnt out, that was it and I quickly
replaced the bulb and to stay onbecause of something come in the

(01:48:44):
house. I'm going to be able to see
exactly what I'm shooting so I can make my bullet placement
count. But the drinking is just one
morning. I was on my way to work and
almost rear-ended the lady because I was trying to reach in
the back into my little gym bag to get my flashy Jack Daniels.

(01:49:07):
I'm on my way to work and I knowwhen I found it and I turned it,
look, I had to pretty much standup on the brake pit on both feet
to keep from hitting that leg and I pulled over and I'm like,
OK dude, you gotta get a wrap onthis now.
You starting to drink before yougo to work is bad enough.
You drinking at lunchtime and assoon as you get off work now you

(01:49:29):
gotta have a drink before you goto work.
You got a problem and you're notgonna find any answers in the
bottom of the bottles. So I called my brother and told
him what happened. One of my brothers, my my second
oldest brother. And he was like, I believe

(01:49:51):
you've seen something. I don't know exactly what it
was, he said. But dude, are you Do you need to
come home? I'm like, I'm not ready to come
home, he said. You need to come home.
I'm like, I'm not ready to come home.
I gotta. I gotta figure out a way.
What's going on? He's like, what I'm like.
I'm not gonna be able to rest inpeace or do anything until I

(01:50:13):
find out if that chick was that thing.
He's like, well, you ain't neverseen her again.
Like, I'm just buying my time. He's like, so you gonna spend
your whole life, I'm like, if that's what it take.
I was like, dude, you don't understand what I've seen.
He said, well, I'm gonna try to help you put just in a place to
where you'll be able to at leasthalfway function normal because
I wasn't dating. If it's starting getting dark,

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I'm on my way out. I'm on my way back to the house.
I'm not, you know. No, no.
When I said that's what I started to sink.
Like, you know, some of the dudes on the football team,
you're like, well, man, we having a party tonight.
Have a good time. You're not going, Roy?
Hell no. Why not?
I got to be in the house when itget dark.
Wait a minute. What?
I got to be inside when they getdark.

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So that was OK for me because I didn't tell them what?
When it happened to me and I never did it.
Just I need to get home to my bottle and my gun.
That's where I need. That's all I needed in my life.
But my brother taught me how to meditate and it was rough at
first because closing my eyes I would see that that thanks face.

(01:51:22):
So it took a while for me to to to be able to do.
But when I did and I felt like II had control of me again.
At least my psyche. I gave it a little $30 funeral,
put it in a box, and I put it way in that closet in the back
of my head. I'm like, I'm not gonna worry

(01:51:43):
about this no more. So I did move back to Nebraska
and I felt, it's almost like I feel like I got out of jail
because I know my surroundings in the brass.
I've been all these different places and I do a lot of fishing
with my brother and stuff. So I'm like, OK, you good

(01:52:06):
course. Within the last year or so, I
found out that you got Bigfoot, dog man crawlers and some other
stuff running around in Nebraskaless than 90 minutes away from
where I grew up. So it just made me think how
many times you go fishing down on the Missouri River, walking
through these trees and stuff like that.

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And you could have been being watched.
Or the few times we went to a farm pond in Iowa where we out
there in the Meadow larks and the red winged blackbirds, the
scene. And then it just get quiet.
And I'm looking at my brother like, you hear that?
He like hear what exactly. But I never even told that
particular brother because I wasmy oldest brother.

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I never told you what happened to me because my family, I knew
what they would have did oh, youcrazy.
You would like went down there and lost your mind or you lying.
So only told one of my brothers.I actually didn't tell my father
until he was on his deathbed andhe told me he believed.
So I reached out to big condos and because I I wasn't thinking

(01:53:17):
about cryptids that day or that,that was the furthest thing from
my mind. I was listening to some music on
YouTube and he showed us. Actually, Sasquatch Chronicles
came up in my feet. Not like Sasquatch, Sasquatch.
I know that, man. What is that?
So I went and listened to it. That's the guy got the show
about talking about Bigfoot, buthe had a dude on there talk
about he seen a dog, man. I'm like a dog, man.

(01:53:39):
What the hell is that? So I started doing some research
and then I ran across Fixed Channel and I started listening
to that. And that's basically what he
talks about. He's branched out now to
Bigfoot, but I sent him an e-mail and he got back to me and
we actually had four conversations before I agreed to

(01:54:01):
let him record it because I justwanted to get some answers.
And when I told him what happened to him, he's like, I've
never heard anything like that in my life.
I'm like, I wish I had only heard about it rather than
living, but I did that and he people seem to take great

(01:54:22):
enjoyment out of my terror. But everybody sent kind words
and stuff like that and they just tell me, you know, man, I
believe you and I'm like, well thank you.
I honestly didn't come on for people to believe me.
I needed this for a type of therapy because if you carry
something with you long enough, it will start to poison and I

(01:54:42):
needed to get it out of my system.
So that helped a lot. But I will say this, really
appreciate what Victoria did. But every night again I kind of
cursing just a little bit like Dang nappy.
Victoria, why did you have to tell them people about me

(01:55:04):
talking, referring to the TravelChannel, But for the people that
I've read their comments, because I actually went down in
the comments section and interacted with people, I answer
whatever questions that they hadand it was like nobody other
guests has ever done that. I'm like, well, I figure if you
ask me a question, least I can do is ask as long as you not
being, you know, a jerk about it.

(01:55:24):
So the last notification I got there was almost 300,000 people
that logged my encounter as theyfavorite episode.
And I'm like, I don't know how to feel about that.

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I mean, I'm not displeased with it, but I'm not pleased with it
at the same time, 'cause, like Isaid, you, you're taking
enjoyment out of my terror. But I appreciate all the kind
words that everybody has shared with and the support that they
given me. It's it's been great because I
couldn't get that at the time that this happened.

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So I do know that there are somepeople that that generally, you
know, care about the encounter survivors that have to go
through these things. But do I wish this on anybody,
not even my worst enemy Because your life is not the same.
It changes to a certain degree. I mean it's like if you got a

(01:56:35):
dirty little secret and you can't tell because you know how
you know your friends or your the family or will react to it
and be like, oh, you know, we didn't know that she was doing
this and that shame on you or something like that.
Or they just kind of ostracize you and you're not, you know,
you get kicked out of the clique.

(01:56:56):
So it felt good to get it off mychest and the things that I
found out since then about the cryptids.
And I'm not even going to talk about the cryptic community, so
we just gonna stick to the cryptics.
But I just want people to be careful, keep your head on a

(01:57:18):
swivel, because if you if you don't, you don't have to be in
the woods for one of these things to come up and do
something to you or try to do something to you.
Hopefully they just will look atyou.

(01:57:41):
You know, I shared some stuff with you, and if we got enough
time to talk about that, we could go on into that.
But it's just terrible how people just, you know, have have
lost their primordial instinct to think that, OK, I'm in the
city, just lobby dying. Ain't nothing gonna happen with

(01:58:10):
so just want people to keep their head on the swivel and
understand that. Don't be so arrogant to think
that just because you were in the city that there's nothing to
living in the city with you. Especially if you got any type
of wooded areas or sewer systemsor canal system your your town.

(01:58:32):
So that's some pretty much what happened to me.
I just, I'm just glad now that my life is, it's calming down.
Well, when I say my life, I'm not talking about my everyday

(01:58:55):
life. I'm talking about my small, my
spiritual life and the comfort that I'm feeling now knowing,
OK, I'm in the city and where I live at, if they're around here,
they can only come and be from three different directions.
But I don't know. I don't know where they're
coming from. So I've been lucky that I

(01:59:15):
haven't seen anything. But if you got any questions so.
You haven't. I'm.
Sorry. Yes, I do.
No. So I wanted to ask.
I guess everybody wants to know.Have you ever gone back?
Have you seen Herman? Have you seen this girl again?
I never seen the girl I did backto Louisiana in 1988.

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It wasn't a good experience for me.
I spent too much time looking back rather than looking
forward, so. But I never went back out to
Metairie, LA. I tried three times and I would

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only get to. And Tulane.
And then you come across the overpass and it turns into
Airline Highway. I think I made it a half a mile.
And I'm like, what? You know, my grandmother told me
a long time. If you find yourself in a
situation and you get out of it alive, don't take your food ass

(02:00:26):
back. So smart.
I've been asked why didn't you go back and check on Herman?

(02:00:48):
I got him home now. I gotta worry about my black
hindquarters. I haven't seen a monster and I
think it was a chick that I was supposed to meet at that park.

(02:01:10):
I'm not going back into her territory for any reason at all.
And I actually had a guy commentand say that it was.
I made my story up because I didn't go and check on her.
OK? You me see somebody on the side
of the road that got a flat tire.
Once they get go by they house to make sure they got home.

(02:01:35):
I had that 357 in my trunk. I bought that from a guy on the

(02:02:01):
street and even though he assured me I never killed
anybody with this gun, I didn't rob the bank or any store with
this gun. 9/10 of the lost possession.
Now with the state that Herman was in, his mom calling the
police when they come and they'dbe like, well, we just met this

(02:02:23):
guy tonight. Now, if you observe him, you
gonna figure he's under the influence of some type of drug
or alcohol. They want to know if if you give
him for hallucinogenics or something like that, we want to
know where he got from. To the best of my knowledge, I

(02:02:44):
was the only one that had a car the first day.
Gonna do a search my car. You find that gun?
Didn't come to find out Ballistics match in Nebraska.
I was. Somebody was killed.
I got this gun now. I can't sell all possession.
We taking you to jail because we're going to put this crime on
you, especially with me being young and black.

(02:03:05):
No, I'll take two passes on that.
I don't even want to rain check.I'm just taking two passes.
I don't want to go through it. So that was part of the reason
why I left. But just a small part.
But. I wonder if he ever got to
speaking again. You said he wasn't speaking.
Oh my God. And he was about to have a baby

(02:03:29):
and he didn't want to be like his dad.
Right, right. So wow, After I went on Victoria
Show the first time, I reached out to my cousin in Texas and I
told him what happened and I actually had listen.
And when they say God works in mysterious ways, I'm a firm

(02:03:53):
believer because my cousin's girlfriend, I should think that
he was playing with me when he said this.
But he said, well, you know, we could see dead people.
She seen grandmother and she seen mom because his mom had
passed away the year before in 2019, and he seen mom.

(02:04:17):
They were standing in the kitchen.
Now you don't have any pictures of it of grandmother none.
And but he described she described her to a tee the way
she wear her glasses and her little or she used to have on
the little classic bag on her head and she had her her
favorite house dress and Nika described her.

(02:04:39):
I said but Nika ain't never met grandmother.
He's like, I know cuz, so tell me about what's up with that.
But Mika, I think has a photographic memory too, because
she knows more than 10,000 people and she can tell you
their names. And I'm like, how the hell you
remember all the people? She's like, I don't know.
I've always been up there doing well since she know so many

(02:05:01):
people. They was listening to my
counter. So she put the word out in
Texas. I'm not just talking about the
Dallas Fort Worth area, I'm talking about in Texas.
And lo and behold, UH, one of her friends from Houston reached
out to her and told her that he got a picture of him and his dad

(02:05:39):
when he was a kid and he got this white spot.
So I'm like, well, ask him if his name, his name was Herman or
if he went by Herman. Yes.
I'm like, I want to talk to you.So they put us in contact.
Come to find out it's Herman son.

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And I'm like, no way he had a boy.
No. Yeah, he's no way.
Now, I don't want to disrespect this young, but I'ma say this.
I don't ever want to talk to himagain.
I've had three comments. I had three conversations with
him and he called me everything but a child of God.

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He blames me and the rest of them dudes forgiving his father
Something that night on the railroad tracks are after Park
that robbed him from having a normal father childhood with his
father. Herman was afraid of the dark.
He was definitely afraid of railroad tracks.
He would have moments where he was lucid and but if you going

(02:06:49):
to go over the railroad tracks, if he's sitting on the Packer
side, he immediately slide over to the middle of the car and
start screaming get me off theserailroad tracks and get me off
these river going to the movie. It got to the point of where
because he said his Herman passed away when he was 7,
almost eight, he had a heart attack one night.

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He was never allowed to be alonewith his son.
He always had to be supervised by his mom or his son's mother
or his son's mother's mother. But he was never allowed to be
alone with him because they never knew when he would snap,
because there was time they let him take him to the park.

(02:07:32):
And Herman would run off from the park and run home and get in
the closet and leave his son at the park.
So I understand his frustration,but yeah, where he's placing his
blame, he's he's wrong. And the last conversation I had
with him, I told him go to take you a trip down to East Texas

(02:07:53):
because he doesn't believe in dog men.
Where will fare none of that stuff he does, you know, y'all
crazy. I don't just tell me what you
did to my dad. You know, give me something,
give me the answer I need so I can close that chapter.
And I'm like, dude, I didn't do that to your dad.
I just met him that day. You trying to tell me that y'all
seen the werewolf? That's what I'm telling you.

(02:08:13):
You're a lie. You're a bald face lie, dude.
Or see, use more colorful language.
But I'm like, OK, you allowed tobelieve whatever you want to
believe. Well, tell me where you at?
I need to come and see you. And I'm like, no, you don't want
to do that, dude, because that ain't gonna end well.
That's not gonna. So So what I'm gonna do is just.

(02:08:35):
I'm gonna pray for you and hope that maybe one day you'll find
your piece in whatever form you need to find it in.
But no, we don't. We don't need to be face to face
because it's it's not going to end well.
And I really feel for him, But him with Herman not ever being

(02:08:55):
100% again to who he was when I met him, I can own.
I don't know what that thing wasdoing.
It was looking at me in his eyes.
I don't know if he was feeding on his soul.
If it was, I don't know what it was doing.
I don't know if because of what it was, what he saw that close.
If his mind just snapped and went into protection mode and

(02:09:19):
just shut down, I could understand why I would because I
know my mind snapped that night.Seeing something that big and
just knowing that you nothing more than pray that you know.
I understand how a deer feels now or the rabbit feels or the

(02:09:41):
mouse feel when the cat. I understand that in that's not
a good feel but without modern technology with weapons and
stuff like that guess what we are if we in the woods we
nothing but prey. So it's just really wish I

(02:10:07):
didn't have some of the questions that I have, but
unfortunately they still exist and I would like to know if she
was that thing and what her intention which was up was, you
go having Roy Tartar that night or did you have some kind of

(02:10:27):
other purpose to be there? And I was told by a guy and we
had a conversation about this spoke my I'm sorry, Mama Mia,
I'm sorry. The dude told me that she didn't
didn't show up to eat. She showed up to change me

(02:10:48):
because she was looking for a mate and I evidently fit the
grocery list for mates that she had made-up.
I guess Friday morning or whatever.
I guess I I fit that list, that it's it's a possibility.
I it is. I don't know what that kind of

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life would have been like. I don't know if I would have
wanted to live it or if that would have been living my best
life. But he said that she was
confused by the smells that Herman was giving off because he
was already scared. But he was confused too, and
evidently confusion has a scent that some animals can smell.

(02:11:29):
So she was focused on him, trying to figure out what was
going on with him. He's giving off both of these
smells. He understood the fear, but the
confusion. And I'm like, OK, dude, what?
Whatever. I've talked to quite a few
people since 2020, up to this year about dog men, werewolves,

(02:11:49):
and I I don't, I don't know. What do you know?
I just don't know what to make of all of you.
I try to do the best I can as far as research, but you also
have to have a healthy dose of common sense when you talking

(02:12:12):
about this stuff or looking at it.
And I try to use that always, not just in the cryptic world
but in life stand. That's just to see something
that big and that earring that just it's gonna always be a

(02:12:36):
question. What I'm hoping is she don't
ever tune into none of these podcasts I've been missing.
Hey, here we talking about her and then come to Arizona and be
like, well, I'll let you get a little bit older, a little bit
more tender. Got a bad knee you can't run now

(02:12:58):
and you know, I don't know. I've talked to some people that
have just had some encounters. And I actually talked to a guy
recently and he told me about his encounter.
And I understand the fear. And it's it's not good in any

(02:13:25):
way to be afraid to go outside your house, even if you're in a
car. It's not a good feeling.
And I had to live through that work for some years.
I've had, you know, when I was still in Louisiana, I had some
guys. Hey, man, I got somebody I want
you to meet. Oh, yeah.
Who is it? Well, it's just girl name.

(02:13:47):
No, thank you. What?
No, thank you. Wait a minute, man.
You know, I think that y'all be a good match.
Hell to the No, no, no, no, no. I'm not interested.
And actually few of my teammateswas talking about are you gay?
I'm like, no, I'm not gay. Well, we don't see you trying to
holler none of the girls or nothing like that.

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I'm like, I'm not interested. What you mean?
I'm like, I'm trying to get school out of the way first.
I got the rest of my life to worry about girls.
I would just play it off like that.
I'm not going to tell you. Yeah, I'll go out on a date with
her. But, umm, I want you to come
with me. Or if she sprout fangs and fur,
it's gonna be it's gonna be me or her.

(02:14:29):
So I just would tell him I'm notinterested.
And I'm not gonna say that it made me lonely because I had my
nightmares and Jack Daniels to keep me coming.
So I was fine. I thought I was alive.
But you just can't. You can't let it hold you

(02:14:49):
prisoner. There are other people that have
what I call that it factor. Policemen, even policemen get
afraid firefighter soldiers, you'll go to another country and
fight against somebody and you know they got bombs and missiles
and gun shooting back and you still choose to go.
You got that effect. But even some soldiers come back

(02:15:11):
with PTSD because of what they seem.
So the creature that you saw compared to the werewolves that
media or movies or books, is that the same as what you saw?

(02:15:32):
Or what did did? Did the werewolf you saw look
different from what we consider a werewolf?
For the most part, she looked like your classical werewolf.
I'm not gonna say the Van Helsing one or the one off of
dog soldiers, but I've always said, and people get it wrong.

(02:15:54):
When I say the ears were on the side of her head, I'm talking
about the side of her head, likeyour ears and my ears are.
Like where my head? Yes, ma'am, like that, but.
So her ears are like. No.
Think about Mr. Spock's ears. To flat.
Against budget, but that long point, they actually came up

(02:16:17):
above her head. Now I had a guy do wow.
I had a guy do it. Well, her head was like I said,
2426 inches wide. Yeah, that's pretty Big South.
And her chest from going from her chest, I got a 55 gallon
tank and that's 48 inches. She was about 45 inches wide.

(02:16:39):
Wow. And I'm had never heard a female
being described like that. They're usually smaller and if
there was a male running around,oh sweet Jesus, I don't even
want to think about them dimensions but that's what I
saw. And I had a guy he he actually I
he did he drew it based on listen to my counter but he

(02:17:02):
still put the classical dog earson and I told him I'm like no
her ears are on the side of her head Now when she turned her
head that's why I was able to see it.
So that would be the only difference and.
So was her ear facing Let me seeout like that?
No, just flat, you know what I mean?

(02:17:23):
Just flat against the side of her head.
Like. Yes, like that.
And then going up. But like I said, when she was
then with the silhouette I seen,I could see her ears sticking
up, but it was like not not wide, the triangle formation of
a dog. It was just that single thing.
And I'm looking, that's why I'm like I'm looking at a dog.

(02:17:45):
But you know, if a dog swivel his ears a certain way, it'll
make him look like that. But when she turned her head,
that's when I really got a look at her.
And like I said, she had muscleson top of muscles, but that's at
that blackness. I mean that I've never seen

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anything that black again. I mean, not killing people or

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she found her a mate on her own.I don't know.
I don't think I want to know that, but.
So, so if your boss knew of this, Luke.
Luke. Guru.
Luke. Guru, Luke, Guru There must be
legends in. Louisiana.

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About these werewolves. Yes, ma'am.
I did some covert research, I guess the best way to put it,
because I would go out sometime in the daytime because of course
I had to go get groceries and stuff like that.
Put gas in my car and I would godown in the French quarters and

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have breakfast at a couple of restaurants and or I'd be at the
park and I was sick and I probably have a book with me.
So I'm not bothering anybody andI have one of my books on
demonology or witchcraft and I'll be reading, but I'd hear
somebody talking and even thoughit looked like I'm reading a

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book, I'm not reading a merry word on that page.
I'm ear hustling. Listen to what they were saying.
So what I found is at that time,I don't know if it's still true
today, but the cages and the creoles and even some of the
black people you talk to, if youjust walk up to him and ask,

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Hey. Are vampires real down here?
You know, somebody told me this.Somebody told me that you gladly
find three or four people that will engage in a conversation
for an hour or two and tell you what they know or sometimes be
like, oh man, that. Yeah, I ain't never heard
nothing like that. But I was in a restaurant and
these guys were talking and theywere Cajuns and they have a

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delightful accent and the way that they use words.
If you've ever heard this man named Justin Wilson, he used to
have a cookie show. If you listen to him talk,
that's how Cage is talked. And it's it's very it's you'll
be smiling a lot just having an exchange with him.
But he was talking about a guy that had went out in the swamp,

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in the Bayou and he was doing some hunting.
I don't know if he was hunting Gators or hogs, I don't know.
But they said that he hadn't come back yet.
And they think that that loop guru.
I said that loop guru got it. And I was like, wait a minute,
hold up. He just said, Luke guru, Let me,

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umm slide over here a little bitcloser.
So I'm sitting there listening and they talking and it's like,
you know that thing been runningaround.
Yeah, for so long. That's how they talk.
But like I said, he listened to him.
It's it's even like, oh wow. And I I got to nerve him.

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I said, excuse me, y'all I've been listening to y'all talk and
wanna do say, well he listened. He said, well, hey now, boy,
where you, where you be from your accent?
And I started laughing. I'm like, you gotta go talking
about that accent. He's like, where are you from?
I said I'm from Nebraska. He's like, they got black people

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up there. I said, well, this folder, it's
full left ever since I moved down here.
So yeah, they're still forced left.
And he started laughing. He's like, what's your question
is? I said, well, I heard you say
something about a loop guru. What is that?
He said, you don't know what theLoop guru is.
I said no Sir. Well why you want to know?
I said I'm doing a paper for school on supernatural stuff.

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But I've been writing about vampires and ghosts and stuff.
But you said this Luke guru and I heard that before but I just
never asked person what is about.
So even he they started talking about it.
But it's both been a Luke guru down there hunting the people
that live out in the Bayou. So I'm like, you know, I said
how you kill them. He told me about the rock salt,

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the oil under fire, he said. Or you use bullets that got
brass cases. Uh, yeah, brass, Casey.
Brass or copper? I've been copper.
You can kill them like that. Take the head off.
Or if you put enough shotgun shells in them to keep them down

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long enough, then you can take the head or you can set them on
fire. I'm like, OK thing, he said.
Why? You seen one of them things?
I said no. I told you I'm just writing the
paper and I don't want to see one, you know, I gotta make sure
I don't know who I'm talking to.I don't want to, you know have
to go to the hospital and then Itell a doctor what I seen in 5
minutes later these two big burly dudes coming there and

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they got this white jacket with extra long sleeves time out.
It's you know, this gonna fit you perfect and we're gonna take
you away. No, I wasn't trying to do that.
So I I found over that three-year period that I've
heard some tales about Luke, Guru, vampires, ghouls, demons.

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What's? A.
Ghoul. A ghoul is something that haunts
the graveyard. They like dead flesh, but they
pack up too, like wolves will pack up, and they're not above
eating a human being of anythingthat's living.
If they can catch they, they're pale.

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Think of a pale being. They call them crawlers now, but
think of a pale being that's hairless, that can go on all
fours, but it's like kind of like a spider when it's all on
all fours. Or they could stand up.
Or they have, like when a man oror woman is losing their hair if
they got cancer, been going through chemotherapy and their

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hair just grows in patches or real wispy.
Think of them looking like that.But they usually got not like
fangs like a canine or cat. Think more along the lines of
once having human teeth that because of biting on bones and

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stuff, they've actually splintersomebody teeth.
So their jacket. Yeah, like that.
Like I said, I talked to probably I'd have to look at my
journal, but I think I've probably talked about between 25
and 33 people that actually gaveme a lot of info and one guy

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swears up and down don't be downin the French quarters a certain
time because there was supposed to be a nest of vampires there
that would they'll get you, but they generally don't mess with
you too much if you are from Louisiana.
They did most of the activity during the Mardi Gras because

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you got all these people coming from different states down
there. So they they that's when they
would actually do the most of their taking of human beings.
But then you got people that actually would have a deal with
a vampire that to feed them in exchange for a promotion at
work. More money more power.

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I don't know why exactly how allthat work, but like I said, this
is just what a person was telling me.
She was telling me that. And I just looked at him like,
oh, that's very interesting. She's like, so if you, you know,
if you want to get a raise at work or if you want to come into
a lot of money, I know somebody that can make it happen.
Not like you talk about a vampire.
She was like, yeah, I was like, I'm gonna take a pass on that.

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Let me, let me think about a fewdays and I'll show back up.
But voodoo, when it comes to voodoo in Louisiana, that is a
real religion. There are people there that
practice it. There was actually some voodoo
priestesses there, and at the time I was there, the most

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famous one, they called her Mama.
And if you wanted a love spell done, or somebody cursed, or
somebody did, you go and see Mama and people believe if you
tell somebody I'ma put roots on you, you better fix whatever the
issues is between now, or you better make sure that they

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disappear where they can't go and see her.
Because people. You've mentioned Mama's name and
a spell or something. Oh no, no.
One lady told me that if you take a man's under a pair of his
underwear and bury them in the front yard that he'll never ever

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leave you and he'll never cheat on.
I had another one dude, another God work.
We told me don't ever eat no spaghetti, chili or anything
made with a red sauce that your woman make for you.
And I was like, why I was like that don't make no sense.

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You gotta use rest off when you do a spaghetti or chili.
And he's like, don't ever eat it, is she?
Make it. Unless you stand there and you
watch her and everything she putin there till I'm like, why?
He said because they take menstrual blood and put it in
there. And that's supposed to keep you
bound to that woman. I said slap me with a Tic Tac

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and make me sit down and shut the hell up.
Are you playing with me right now, dude, he's like, you ain't
never heard about that before. I'm like, no.
So of course, and this between me and you, I don't eat no chili
or no spaghetti that any woman make that I don't see her make
to this day, you you better quitplaying with me.
I'm not doing it. But yeah, there's a lot of stuff

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that that I learned by talking with people down there.
So, but if you ever go to New Orleans, as soon as you get off
the plane and coming to New Orleans, you're going to feel a
different type of energy in the air.
I don't know what it is, but there's a different type of
energy. Then you got that smell.

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It's it's it's hard to describe,like I said, rotting vegetation,
stuff like that. But there is this smell.
And one guy told me that the reason that they have so many
hurricanes and stuff like that is because every few years God
has to cleanse the city of all the sin.

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That's why they have hurricanes and tropical storm stuff.
I'm like, are you serious? He's like just think about how
many bad hurricanes you have. A lot of people got killed or
lost every day and they own. I'm like, yeah, y'all Kitty
pretty bad down here. I mean I went through three
tropical storm and I lived thereand it rains a lot and you don't

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want to be there when the flooding starts.
So that kind of makes sense to me on that level.
But I'm not sure if it's becauseof the geological location or if
this is truly God coming in doing this.
So yeah, it's Louisiana is it's full of weirdness.
And another thing is they bury their dead above the ground.

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You don't, you don't get put because of the the the soil, the
water, Yeah, you don't get put below ground.
So I can't tell you I was going by cemetery one night.
This was in 891989. And it's like you expect the

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cemetery to be separated out from the city, right?
No, you just be driving down thestreet.
In between these buildings, there's a cemetery.
So I was sitting down in the redlight and I just happened to
look over to my right. And I could have swore.
I seen the dude walking on the other side of the fence in the
cemetery, but he was all black. And I looked and I'm like,

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Brenda, what he's doing, I'd really didn't think I'm like,
Brenda, What the hell? Did the cemeteries close?
What is he doing? Then light turned green and I
took my hind quarters on. So I was talking to somebody
later on. It's like, oh, you done with
just a spirit. He was just patrolling the
cemetery. Make sure he was keeping either
keeping bass fears in or keepingbass fears of company.
And I looked at him like, you serious right now?

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He said yeah, but he just said it like matter of fact, I'm
like, OK, thanks for the information.
So other than that, I had one weird, weird thing happened and
I can't explain. There's actually a theater or
had been a theater down in the French quarters where they do

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plays, but the actors actually have to have period dress on
when they're doing it. And I can't remember what play
was doing it, but I was with a young lady that I had been
seeing and I knew that she wasn't sprouting fangs in fur.
At least she hadn't done it up to that point.
In three months we had been talking, but we have went to go

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see the Neville Brothers performat one of the Blues bars in the
French quarters. But where we had to park because
we got to so late, we had to park down by the river off 1st
St. and Chopatoulis and it's a farmers market area.
So when they shut down there's acobblestone St. and they didn't

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really have the proper lighting back there.
They had some St. lights, but they were spaced really far
apart. And we was walking to go get in
the car and we was just, you know, having small talk.
Actually, we saw my where we just gonna go get something to
eat. And, you know, you can hear
horror. Soul shoes on cobblestone.

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They heard somebody walk us. I turn it, you know, around and
look back. And there was a guy, he was
about a couple of blocks back upthe street and he was just
walking along at a casual pace. So I turned around.
I'm like, oh, you know, it's GetWalker.
So we took about maybe 1012 steps and I heard the footsteps

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louder, so I turned around. Look again.
Now this dude is like a block behind us.
And I was like, I didn't hear him running because you can hear
him walking. But when he went under the
light, he had on a black top hatone of those cakes that come

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down to your waist. And he had a cane and he was had
on black, black pants, black shoes, and he had on a white
shirt. And I don't know if he had on a
bow tie or if he had a tire, buthe was just strolling along at a
casual pace. And I'm like, I started doing
the math. I'm like, wait a minute, how the
hell he get a block closer to us?

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And we only took 12 steps at most.
So I told my girlfriend, I'm like, hey, she said, what?
I'm like, turn around and look at that dude that's walking
behind us. Tell me if you see something
weird. So she turned around and
looking, she was like, you know,she kind of jumped and I'm like,
you know, and I turn around, look now he's about 1/2 a block

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away, but he's never, you never hear him increase his pace.
And when he went in front of thelight, you know how some
redheads are really pale? He was pale like that because
you know, he almost looked my ain't gonna say glowing, but he
would just pale like that. And I looked at her and I'm
like, hey, I said we gonna walk a few more steps and this is
what I want you to do. She said what?

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I said I want you to go unlock the car and jump in and pop the
trunk. She said, what you gonna do?
I said just do what I asked you to do.
So I stopped walking and she kept on walking.
Then she got by 5 feet from the car and she ran and jumped in
and she popped the trunk. So I started walking and I was
kind of looking over my shoulderand dude was still walking and

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he he could tell he was looking in my direction because we have
went out. I got to the trunk and I reached
in there and I had that same gun.
I thought I said, hey dude, I don't want no trouble with you.
I don't know what you up to or how you get so close to us so
fast, but just going about your business, I don't want no
problem. And he stopped.

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But when he stopped he wasn't upunder the streetlight.
He kind of was in the shadow. But he was right in front of
this store, the doorway to it. He took one step back and like,
he was gonna go into the store, but he was facing me.
So I went and I got in the car and I started up and I'm still

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looking at him the whole time she was looking to.
When she said, where the blank did he go?
I'm like, he right there in the doorway when I started the
carpet, turn the lights on with nobody in the doorway.
And I looked at her. I'm like, where did you didn't
see where he went? She's like, didn't you just hear
me say, where did he go? I'm like, but you see him back

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up, she said. I've seen him back into the
doorway with nobody in there andI'm like, OK, he must have went
in the store, she said. Ain't no lights on now.
When I backed out, I made so my headlights would illuminate the
front part of the store. I didn't see nothing.
I looked at her. She looked at me.
I was like, guess what she said.What I said.
We bought the exit stage left and we out of here.

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So we left. We went to the greasy spoon
Waffle House and we was in therefor about an hour and a half
talking about and she was like, I told you some weird stuff
going on because she was from New Orleans.
I'm like, I know some weird stuff got on there and I never
told her what I've experienced at all.

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But when I went to go and meet her mother for the first time, I
should have known something wasn't right.
I don't put it like that. When we got their house, I'm
hearing chickens in the backyard.
That's not unusual for people toown chickens.
They like to get the eggs or sometime to eat them.
But even living in the city, we get inside the house and her

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mother know her mom came out andI introduced myself.
We was talking. It was on a Sunday.
We're supposed to have dinner. So we sitting at the table and
her mom went in the kitchen and was bringing the dishes out and
I asked her ma'am, you know, I can give you a hand.
You're like, no, I got this, Your guest in my house, you can
do that. So we all sitting in the dining

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room at the table and you can hear or heard like 2 pots bang
together. And I looked at my girlfriend.
I'm like, who else is here? You told me your mom's there by
herself. She said ain't nobody else here
but me and us. I said, well, who's in the

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kitchen banging the pots? And their Mama said, oh, that's
them spear. Sometime they get ruthless.
When I had comfort, I said, did you say spirit?
She said, yeah. I leaned over and looked at my
girl. I'm like, if you ain't in the
car by the time I pull away fromthe curb, you find your own way
home. And I got up and I said it was

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very nice to meet you, ma'am. Maybe one day we can do this
again. She's like, what's the matter?
I'm like, I'm about to leave now.
She's like, oh, if they didn't like you that I said I'm about
to leave now. I don't want to hear nothing
else. It was a pleasure to meet you.
And I walked out that door and Igot in the car and I started up
and then my girlfriend come hauling out because I meant what

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I said. If you ain't in the car by the
time I Greg, go, I'm out of here.
She's like, Oh my God, I'm so embarrassed.
How could you just get up and walk away like that?
I'm like, your mom got somethingin the house for her.
Plus, she raised chickens. She was like, what?
They got to do Anything. I'm like, what do she do with
them chickens? She's like when she get the eggs

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and stuff. I'm like, everything I heard
about voodoo. Anybody that's practicing voodoo
got chickens or goats. I'm not.
I'm never coming back to your mom house again.
I don't even want to talk to heron the phone.
She's like, well, you bet she and she's being a smart aleck.
She said, well, you know what, Roy?
I'm like what She said. You might not want to piss her
off then if you know she raised chicken.

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Guess what? I didn't live in Louisiana.
Two months after that, I took myblack hindquarter back to

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Nebraska. I had, but I was always armed.
I was always armed and I had still a blessed cross.
But I never went back to Metairie.
Never. I never went back to Metairie.
I tried to stay on actually on the other side of the river with

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we go hair hand, places like that.
But there's it. It's it is so much.
So much. There's so many wooded areas in
the city, like driving down Airline Highway.
You look to your left and you look to your right.
You see 50 yards out, there's just these Big Cypress trees

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with Spanish malls hanging down.Just very creepy to see at night
when you are down by the Mississippi River.
Because I still fish. I just pick and chose the times
that I went and I never went by myself.
There's areas down there, especially by the river.

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It's heavily overgrown. But I just followed a pass or I
would fish behind this church. I figure, OK, you're right
behind the church, so hopefully that protection will go down to
the river. But I like Louisiana.
I like the food and stuff, but Ididn't really date anybody too

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much. That was from Louisiana because
after that Lady there that I dated, I'd ask people, you do
you from Louisiana. And I'm from Florida.
OK, You good? You from Mississippi?
OK. I'm from not Alabama, but
Georgia or something like OK, you good.
But you'd be like, well, yeah, I'm born and raised Louisiana.

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Well, it was nice to meet you. You have a good day.
Now they just kind of look at melike, oh, damn.
Soon as I say that's Louisiana. That's right.
So. Why?
They were so thick in Louisiana because at one time that was a

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main slave port. You're bringing in people from
Cuba, Africa, the Caribbean. I'm trying to think of the other
two. I actually did the research on
this. But when you bring these people

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in as slaves, they don't leave their religion at home.
They bring their religion with them.
And if you got somebody that's already cursed or blessed,
depending on how you look at it,they're not going to stay, you
know. OK, Would you just leave the
curse here in Havana, Cuba, and you're here, or you're coming
from Africa. You don't leave that cursed

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here. It comes here and with the
different varieties that I've heard about that are Roman
United States alone, like this hyena type that people are
talking about. They're actually people be like
we'll go for America never had no hyenas.

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Yes, we did. It was called the running high.
I did the research on. Now the reason I say that is I
asked a guy, what could a dog man possibly be?
And he said without hesitation, It's the product of a fallen
Angel and a dire wolf. I'm like, wait a minute, what

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makes you say that? He said.
That's just my own personal opinion.
I don't have any scientific facts to back it up, But if you
think rationally, he said, thinkabout how big a dire wolf is.
And when the angels fail and came down here, they was formed
for Caden with everything. I'm like, OK, he said.
So that's what I think a dog manis, He said, now werewolf, I put

(02:44:02):
them in the category of somebodythat has made a deal with the
devil and allow a demon to come and take possession of their
body. And that's why you see these
things or it is something that already exists.
And a demon, because they don't have a physical form, they chose
to possess these things and that's why you got dog men that

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turn out like that. But if you think about some
things that human beings can do,For instance, 120 LB woman lives
on a rural farm with her husband.
She's 120 lbs soaking wet with two barrel bricks.
Her husband is out in the garageworking on that F-350, changing

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the brakes and because of the Jack that he has not high enough
to Jack the car up to where he can, you know, work safely.
He uses a couple of cinder blocks and three, two by fours
as a Jack stay. Now he's up under the truck
doing his job. Couple of the two by fours of

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crack and break, truck falls andpins into the ground.
He's out there in the barn howling and screaming, his head
off his white ears. And she come running out to the
barn to see that he spent up under the car and she's able to
lift the front end of that F-350off her husband and pull him
out. What type of change takes place
in her body that she's able to do this?

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Some people say that's adrenaline.
OK, I know it. I've had adrenaline rushing
before playing football, but I never had one allow me to pick
up the front end of a vehicle. Never.
So there's either some type of chemical or physical change that
take place that give her the strength to do that.
There are scientists that say weonly use a certain percentage of

(02:45:53):
our brain, which is true. He said that we were able to use
at least 70% of our brain. We probably could be able to
achieve the power of flight unassisted by anything
mechanical, I said, so you saying we'd be able to fly like
Superman? He said if we were, I don't
know. But if you're able to use at
least 70% of our brain, it's possible.

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So when people talk about, I don't think the human body can
go through the change and then back again.
Well, that's exactly what happens with the skin walk.
It's assisted by a demon or dealwith the devil to do it.
But if you think about, I know the biology is different for

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frogs and insects, but what happens when a Caterpillar goes
from being a Caterpillar to a moth or a butterfly?
Does not a total physical changetake place?
Now they may not change back into a Caterpillar, but that
process there's a physical change.
Then there are some frogs that if they're all female in one

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area, some of the females are actually morphed into males in
order to propagate the species. And then I'll just take a look
at these cases of demonic possessions on human beings.
Look at what the human body can withstand as far as the
movements that they do, crawlingbackwards up the wall on the
ceiling and stuff like that. That's a physical change now,

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maybe because the demon is doing, I don't know, but I'll
just keep that door to as possible open in my head.
But I know with what I saw. I've even though I've never seen
her change when she looked at me, when I was thinking about
hitting that fence, that was notan animal looking at me.

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That was an intelligence that a normal animal doesn't have.
Because like I said, it was thatlook like, go ahead, try, run,
See how far you could try it. I didn't run.
I just stood there and peed on myself.
So that is what I believe and ifsomebody can come forward with
some proof 105% to prove to me that she wasn't, that that's

(02:48:06):
what I'm taking to my grave. Because I've shared some stuff
with you of what is considered dog men.
And if we got enough time, I want to talk about that just a
little bit. But even you said that is scary.
But to know that, as in that onevideo I sent you, if you blow it

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up and look at it, you can see the head, the eyes and
everything in that window. But yet they are not inside her
house and they're not standing outside.
It's like there's a portal rightthere.
And also in that same video I sent you, I'm gonna send you the
steal shot. There's a picture of Bigfoot
face up in the upper left corner.

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So I I don't know. I got, I guess you got any more
questions? I'll answer them first and then
we'll kind of kind of go over tothat.
No, I think. I think you pretty much answered
everything with your with your experience, are you going to
make a book? I started writing my book

(02:49:11):
2/20/21. I've I've stopped because I've
had some little distractions, but I have maybe four more
chapters I want to add. But that's more about what I've
learned since 2022 and 2023. But here's something you might

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find interest. Have you seen any of the
Underworld movies about the werewolves?
OK, I suggest you watched it. There's four right now, and
they're talking about making another.
But the first one, and the thirdone, there's a black guy that
plays one of the werewolves. He's got a really deep voice.

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Well, one of my Facebook friendsreached out to me and he's
actually friends with that guy. So he put me in contact with.
Now only thing I wanted to talk to Kevin about was his
inspiration for being in a movieand can he give me 3 names of
any producers in Hollywood that I could send a script to that

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would give it at least take the time to read it and give serious
consideration to make a movie. So I'm talking with this guy and
I found out he wrote the 1st andthe 3rd scripts for Underworld
and he didn't write it his he didn't have vampires and
werewolves in mind when he wroteit it was supposed to be.

(02:50:39):
His message is this is how humanbeings treat other human beings
because of your race or your creed, whatever.
And and when I say he got a deepvoice, it sound like it come
from his lower intestines up. He's got a deep voice but he's
very, very, very friendly. He doesn't act like, you know,

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he's all that because he's been in some movies and stuff.
And then I found out that he also wrote this movie called I
Frankenstein. He wrote the script for and I'm
like, dude, just give me three nights because I got a really
good. I actually started writing the
script for a movie and I just wanted to know I don't want
anybody to take my idea and turnit into a movie.

(02:51:23):
So I had to get a copyright and stuff like that.
But I recently sent a friend request out to Jason Momoa and
he he accepted, He accepted. So I'm like, I don't know what
we don't talk about, but I just think I really liked him and
some of the. Go talk.

(02:51:44):
Yes, no, please. Some of the movies he played in
so I sent him a message. I have a check messenger to see
if he responded back but he did accept my friend request but it
might just be for numbers on Facebook.
But yeah I am. I big even told me you should
write a book. But I thought about it and I sat

(02:52:05):
down and I did it and I started it.
And then I take a break because,you know, my grandson stayed
with me now, so it's hard to find quiet time where he'll let
me sit down do it. And I don't mind because, you
know, that's no, that's my sunshine right now.
He's a little spoiled, right? In hindquarters.

(02:52:25):
That's my sunshine. Yeah, I want to do that.
But I have started again. This is my second attempt.
I started a small cryptic group on Facebook and I sent you an
invitation because I wanted you to go in and actually look at

(02:52:46):
some of the stuff. Because I told you, just as I
told my other members, I have some stuff here that you're not
going to see anywhere else. And so I'm trying to be true to
that, but I don't just let anybody in because there's some
real Yahoo's out there that well, I can do this in my
backyard. Or that's that's Photoshop.

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And I tell them, if you say it'sPhotoshop, I invite you to take
it, send it to thinker Thunker, send it to NK Davis, and have
them analyze it to see if it's been Photoshopped in any way.
I trust the people that share the stuff with me.
And I have a member that's in Arkansas.
And when I tell you she covers 4categories for weird, I mean,

(02:53:33):
that Bigfoot, dog man, Ghosts, UFOs.
She, I don't know what's going on with her that she's able to
capture all this, but I know shereached out to me after she
heard me on Victoria's show. Don't know she's seen me on TV.
And I asked her, why are you talking to me?

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You know, you can reach out to Victoria, you can reach out to
Sasquatch Chronicles. You can reach out to Jeffrey.
Not Donnie. There's so many other people you
can. She's like, I don't trust him.
You seem like you more down on earth to me.
And you're not trying to be big or presumptuous of what you're
doing. I'm like, I'm not trying to do

(02:54:16):
anything. I just wanted to share with the
world what happened to me. And I was invited.
I didn't reach out again, never reached out to me, she said.
Well, I just feel like I could trust you, OK?
Some of the stuff she shared with me, some of it I can't
post. I wish I could.
But she made an agreement with the dog, me and that live where

(02:54:38):
she lives that she won't share any pictures of them if their
babies are in it. I have a picture of a dog man
out in the open. You can actually use a garbage
can to gauge his size, but I can't share it.
Now I'm going to work on her with that to see if we can maybe

(02:55:00):
crop the babies out because there are two pups pictures.
If I can crop them out and believe me, I'll post it.
Now that's some of the dog. Well, at least the one that she
dealing with. They're not big and muscular.
They would remind you more of a basketball player.
They're tall and rangy. Now I sent you a video for that

(02:55:24):
one with his head by the tree. He's not up in the tree now I
gotta find a picture. But I'm gonna send you a picture
of the tree by itself in the daytime.
He's not in the tree, He's standing next to the tree.
But when you he's got to be between 12 and 15 feet tall,
down on all fours. I say he's about 8 feet long.

(02:55:47):
It just blew my mind. And then she's got UFO stuff.
She definitely has some spear stuff, but she has some light
phenomena. And I'm gonna send you couple of
pictures everywhere. She driving down a black road
and she just get a feeling that she need to take pictures.
And there's either sevens, there's there's either numbers

(02:56:11):
or musical notes that are just in the air in full color.
And I'm like, no, that's got to be a reflection of a sign, you
know, some sign behind you. Come on, quick plan with me.
You know, I called her on and she's like Roy.
I got my daughter with me. She'll kill you.
And I've talked to all three of her kids.
Don't buy some of the stuff they've experienced.
And it's really weird. And I'm like, what is going on

(02:56:35):
in Arkansas where you lived at, You're capturing yourself.
She's like, you may help me makeit make sense.
So I'm not going to try to use your platform to promote my.
But unfortunately the way I'm about to say this is going to
kind of do it. But the name of my group is
called it's Scripted Insights. It's a small group.
You can only get in if I let youin.
You can ask to join, but you canonly get in if I let you in.

(02:56:57):
I don't have any admins or moderators.
I'll do it all by myself and I promise anybody that listen to
this, that want to join. If you get in you're going to
see some stuff that you're not going to see anywhere else.
I I guarantee you that you're not going to see it in another
crypto group. You're not going to see it on
some TV show, none of that stuff.

(02:57:18):
I've I'm constantly. I actually interviewed her last
year. Three hour interview in the
group, Can't find it anywhere. Now.
I got an interview sitting there, a lady in Scotland that
researchers Dogman. Her interview was there and I do

(02:57:38):
it through the same steps and I'm like, I don't understand why
I can't find your energy. So I'm going to interview her
again, but I'm not sure exactly what I'm gonna do because I
didn't get into this to be doinginterviews and stuff stuff.
It's just that so many people say, just like I told you
yesterday, a guy sent me a message on YouTube saying, you

(02:58:01):
know, there's a podcast that we want you to come and be a host
on because we feel like you would be good.
And I'm like, well, what, You know, you reach out to me on
Facebook and we'll talk about itbehind the scenes.
He sent me a message that wants something smart.
I haven't opened it up yet because I knew I was going to be
doing this and I don't like to try to have too many pots
stirring at the same time. So yeah, my group's called

(02:58:24):
Crypted Insights and. OK, so they can find you on
Facebook. I'll put that in the show.
Notes. OK.
I appreciate that. And that brings us to an end of
another compelling episode of the Sensible Hippie Podcast.
I want to extend my heartfelt thank you to my special guest

(02:58:45):
and now friend, Roy Stubblefieldfor joining us in sharing his
incredible story. Roy, you trusted me to convey
your experience with authenticity means a great deal.
Thank you very much. It's been an extraordinary
journey diving into the details of that frightful crazy night in

(02:59:06):
July of 1981, and I hope that sharing your story here have
brought some justice to your experience and shed the light on
truths that were previously overshadowed.
And to my listeners, thank you very much for your engagement
and your curiosity. It's you that keeps me going, so

(02:59:28):
thank you so much. And remember, this is a two-part
series, so this is part one of Part 2.
So please stay tuned for Part 2 as we continue to explore more
depths of Roy's encounter. And don't forget to share this
episode and please share your thoughts and comments and
questions below. I will also link Roy's new

(02:59:52):
Facebook group below, so until the next time, keep an open mind
and stay curious. Bye.

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Do what you want. Do what you want.
Do the,

(03:01:15):
do what you want. Do what you want.
Do the.

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