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August 19, 2025 88 mins

A wide-open conversation with David Whitehead on Iran’s hidden history: Persia vs. modern ideologies, underground cities and mythic “giants,” ancient feuds that still script today’s conflicts, strange alliances, China/fentanyl influence, and the illusion of choice in global power.

Topics: Iran’s erased/rewritten history; symbolic/ritual value of the region; underground networks (Turkey–Iran–Levant); giants lore & megalithic puzzles; sectarian feuds across the Abrahamic world; manipulation of consciousness; fentanyl/China irregular warfare; controlled consent vs. free will; courage and sovereignty.


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Show notes:

  • Iran’s ancient/erased history vs. modern ideology

  • Why the region is symbolically/ritually important

  • Underground cities & “giants” traditions

  • Abrahamic feuds and power architecture

  • China/fentanyl and irregular warfare

  • Controlled consent, media, and statecraft

  • Courage as antidote to mass fear

Chapters:
00:00 Intro & setup
00:38 Iran’s hidden/rewritten history
02:10 Persia vs. modern ideologies
07:12 Underground networks & sacred sites
09:45 “Underground world” (physical/criminal/psychic)
14:45 Giants lore & megalithic puzzles
19:43 Iran, revolution & suppressed modernity
26:40 Control architecture & Abrahamic feuds
33:27 Texts, symbolism & corrupted priesthoods
35:38 Control of consciousness as objective
49:35 Unlikely alliances & the global script
63:22 China & fentanyl as irregular warfare
72:20 Illusion of choice → controlled consent
76:55 Where to find David

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(00:01):
They want to build one world religion just like they want one
world government. They want one world religion.
Now, I wouldn't be against a world recognition of the origins
of all religion, which would free us all from this dogma
that's been tearing this place up for thousands of years.
But the instituting of a global religion by these people at the

(00:23):
UN or whatever, trust me, it's not going to be the the pie in
the sky loving light one. It's going to be something that
is facilitating more control. And it's going to be something
much more rooted in, I think, atheism and materialism, that
it's going to be any kind of spirituality.
So that's just my destination. I think it's more the
transhumanism, which is the realnew religion they want to bring

(00:43):
in. But they're going to use the
religions like Game of Thrones. They're going to use these
things to weed each other out and fight it down until it's a
smaller number that they can then route it out.
The views and opinions expressedby the guests are their own and
don't necessarily reflect those of the show.

(01:06):
This podcast is for informational and entertainment
purposes only and is not professional advice.
Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussion
of violence, religion, contemporary politics, drug use,
and suicide. Listener discretion is advised.
Aloha and welcome to another episode, guys.

(01:30):
Today I'm welcoming back David Whitehead, researcher, martial
artist, and filmmaker best knownfor his docu series Cult of the
Medics and his Truth Warrior podcast.
You may have also seen him on Ancient Aliens, The Unexplained
In Search Of, and The Curse of Oak Island, where he explores

(01:51):
hidden histories, spiritual warfare, and the deeper layers
of power and control. Now, if you've heard our last
conversation, you already know that this conversation will be
going very deep. In this episode, we're focusing
on Middle East, specifically Iran, and exploring some of the

(02:13):
ancient, spiritual and hidden layers of history that continue
to shape global events today. For those watching on YouTube,
due to YouTube censorship policies, I won't be able to
share this full version of this interview here.
If you want to watch or listen to the entire conversation, you

(02:35):
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They also will not be censoring this episode.

(02:57):
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Patreon or buy me a coffee. Now let's get into it with David
Whitehead. Enjoy the show.

(03:20):
Aloha, David, and welcome back to the show.
There was a lot of positive feedback after your last
appearance. Yeah, the listeners really
appreciated what you had to say and the clarity you brought to
some complex topics. So I'm excited to have you back

(03:40):
on today. I'd love to go in deeper with
the Cult of the Medics and also explore your research and
insights on Iran, particularly the hidden layers and connection
you've uncovered through your work.
In your research, have you foundanything about Iran's ancient or

(04:02):
spiritual history that you believe is being hidden, erased
or rewritten today? That is very good question and
thanks for having me back and I'm glad everybody really
enjoyed the last episode. That really warms my heart for
this show talking about Iran andthe history we've been getting

(04:25):
into the history of that entire Middle Eastern region over on
the Unslaved podcast. And I've been learning so much
about it. It's really mind blowing.
But one thing that has to be talked about when you talk about
that culture is you got to differentiate between Islam as
an ideology that is currently basically running the show in

(04:49):
that region versus the high level of culture the Persian
Empire would have brought to theworld.
The totally 2 totally different things.
And I think this does have to dowith the ancient history.
I think there's some, there's something about that Middle
Eastern region, some, it's not that I have the answer on this,

(05:10):
but there's definitely somethingextremely valuable to the powers
that be. And I'm talking all the powers,
like all the all the political powers, all the papal and
religious orders. There's something for thousands
of years that has been fascinated, fascinating to them
about that region. And there's been many theories

(05:30):
on this. We can get into the big thing
where you think a lot of people are looking at that region of
the world, say like summer, which is where modern day Iraq
and Syria, right? Like that whole area.
And then Iran is a part of that as well.
This was supposed to be one of the great empires of the world.
And there's a term that goes around a lot that I think a lot

(05:52):
of people don't understand when it comes to this, Michael, this
area. And my colleague has broken this
down many times, but it's that term Aryan, which got totally
bastardized by the Nazi occultists who took that term
and applied it to their black son order.
But that term does have an original concept to it that has

(06:14):
nothing to do with some kind of racial, racial group or
whatever. It has to do with cast.
It has to do with those who havethat ancient knowledge that I
was talking about in the last episode.
So those that are sort of the, the wisdom keepers and they're
the ones that actually are told about when you go into the

(06:36):
Sanskrit origins in India, you Sanskrit scholars have mentioned
that the whole entire language of Sanskrit was gifted to them
by the Aria. They call them the high Aria.
And what are they talking about?Well, they're, they're talking
about some of the, I believe, the lost knowledge and wisdom
keepers of human, the building of the human civilization.

(06:58):
And these are cast, meaning theyare a particular group that has
access, they're very educated and learned peoples and they
have a history and lineage of protecting these ancient
secrets. And so that whole term, like
it's almost hard to use that term because it's been so
brutally propagandated by the way that it ended up in the Nazi

(07:22):
regime and how everybody uses it.
But it actually opens the door to understanding the history of
the region because it's talking about the fact that in this
region, a lot of people believe are the hidden history of human
origins. A lot of people believe that
there was a deliberate attempt to destroy that culture and not

(07:42):
let it get off the ground in theexact same fashion that they did
to Germany, where Germany was ona track to become, you know, one
of the great leaders in the world as well.
But on a positive note, not withthe whole Nazi thing.
And that the whole Nazi thing was brought in as essentially a
way to shut that down as was in the Middle East.
The the whole Islam thing was brought in to shut down that

(08:06):
process from unfolding. And I think our history would
have been totally different had those two events not taking
place in history. It was the elimination of the
Persian Empire and the elimination of the German
Empire. But in my reading of it and in
many scholars reading of it, it would have been a very positive
force in the world, not this negative force that it has

(08:28):
become today. So yeah, there's also, it's very
mineral rich, lots of the big mineral deposits.
When the discovery of oil happened, that changed
everything. And that's pretty recent history
actually. And then so you can get into
sort of like the land, the resources or something about
that. That's very valuable.
And then there's also all these ancient religious feuds about

(08:50):
the region. You know, look at the Israel
Palestine thing. Look at what's going on in Iran
right now across the Middle East.
It's been going on forever sincethe Crusades, right?
So something about that land that has a symbolic or ritual
meaning to these people at the top.
And that's, you know, that's where we start getting into a
bit of speculation, but there's a lot of hints at that when you

(09:13):
read literature coming from, say, like the Shriners or the
Mason. Some of the Masonic writers will
talk about the connection to theMiddle Eastern era area.
We know Christianity has its connection to the Middle East,
as does Judaism, as does Islam. So the three most powerful
religions in the world all have some sort of connection to what

(09:35):
looks to us as just some desert.Like why are we fighting over a
desert? Like what?
What is that? Well, that gets into the
question, what was there before the desert, possibly?
What is the memory in that land?What is the value in that land?
And more importantly, what aboutthe people on that land?
What kind of a civilization werethey about to bring to the world
that had to be shut down by thatBritish Empire?

(09:58):
And I'm not talking when I say British Empire.
I'm not just talking about like British people or referring to
the positive sides that British,the British brought to the world
as well with the Magna Carta andeverything else that's separate.
We're talking about how Britain was used as a vehicle towards
creating the empire that these globalists really wanted in the

(10:21):
end, and that for whatever reason, Britain and America were
infiltrated by these cults and were used as the weapon to
achieve it. And so it's a huge story.
Probably do multiple films on it, but that's sort of a general
sketch just sort of off the top of my head.
Wow. I know some researchers that

(10:44):
have suggested that Iran may be part of an ancient underground
network that stretches maybe from Turkey, Armenia, Iraq,
Afghanistan and even the Himalayans.
May be a kind of free flood infrastructure built for
protection? Or was it ritual survival?

(11:06):
Have you come across anything like that in your research that
supports or even challenges those ideas?
Yeah, no, I've, I've, I've oftenspeculated about the underground
world. We call it the underground
world. And we're talking not just
metaphorically, we're talking physical underground caverns and

(11:26):
entire cities they discovered inTurkey, trying to remember the
name of the place. But there's multiple sites in
Turkey that they found. There's sites all over the
Middle Eastern region. There's sites all over the
world. You wouldn't believe even here
in Canada, we're finding out allthe time about underground
stuff. Now you, you start to wonder,
OK, when it comes to these underground caverns, some of

(11:47):
them way more ancient, which is what you're getting into with
the, you know, Iran, Turkey, youknow that area, the very
ancient, you know, you're going into Egypt.
Oh my God, The labyrinths they're discovering all over
Egypt, underground that are not naturally formed.
That's really the most importantpart of this.
This isn't just some humans hiding from some something going

(12:07):
on in some caves that were naturally formed.
We're talking incredible underground cities, caverns,
cathedrals. There's underground churches,
there's underground synagogues. They've uncovered synagogues,
ancient, ancient synagogues in certain places in, in Judea,
outside of Israel that have likeentire zodiacs carved into the

(12:32):
entire basement of the place. They're actually built off of
the Zodiac. It's just fascinating.
So you go, OK, are we talking about just a very fascinating
chapter of history, or is there something much deeper happening
with the underground stuff? And there's theories where, you
know, if we start very practical, you know, they could
have been digging these things to evade evasion, right

(12:55):
invasion. And so you'd you'd bring your
people underground. You can get into the cataclysm
theory, which is extremely interesting.
We've done a lot of this on the Unslaved podcast, getting into
the work of people like EmmanuelVelikovsky.
And who else would it be? There's so many just these
different theorists. They came out and said there's
been ancient cataclysms that have shook the Earth, and that's

(13:19):
why all the myths and legends around the world are talking
about that, right? So there must be something that
happened. And maybe some of these
underground caverns were built for protection because there was
just this constant barrage of either comet action in common
coming in, or famine or war or earthquake.
Something was going on that led a significant amount of humans

(13:43):
around the world to build. Mind boggling, mind bogglingly
sized underground, like entire cities.
And that's always fascinated me.And so, you know, that region of
the world you could say has manysecrets buried beneath and it's
anybody's best guess. But the fact that those caverns

(14:06):
exist and are being still discovered all the time gives us
a totally different way of looking at ancient history and
the migration of peoples and howeverything went down.
It's it's something that I've been trying to pay attention to
myself because the more they discover this stuff, the more
I'm realizing we're just the surface dwellers here.
We're just the ones on the surface that have no idea about

(14:28):
our history. We've been told what we've been
told. We've either studied it or we
haven't. And yet beneath our feet is an
entire underground world. And even if there's nothing
supernatural to get into or to, you know, say it wasn't
anything, you know, that sizzle that that special that was going
on. The fact over time, these

(14:50):
underground caverns and systems through different, you know,
periods of time have been used for the purposes of criminal
activity and occult activity, actually.
And I have a feeling that some of these ancient sites are
sacred to these cultists that I believe are essentially sitting
at the the top of the power pyramid in the world.

(15:11):
Who they are religious like people.
They are cult like people. They have there's, there's deep
just like there's sacred meaningto Mecca for, for Islam and
their sacred meaning to Israel and Jerusalem for, you know,
Judaism and their sacred meaning, you know, for the
basilica and Saint Paul's Cathedral and certain plan on
even in Israel for Christians and all the religions like in

(15:34):
Tibet, the mountains, like there's, there's, there's
something about land and nature that becomes sacred to different
peoples over time. And that's gets built into their
entire cultural, religious or cult framework.
And now we're dealing with a totally different thing.
And if they, if you get a dark element of that, think about

(15:56):
what we're learning about drug smuggling, human trafficking,
weapons dray, the terrorist networks.
Look at the underground caverns that were built by the by Hamas
in Israel and in Gaza. Instead of using their billions
of dollars that they've been donated by the world, they to
enhance their state and build their state.

(16:17):
What have they done? Build an underground terror
network. So, you know, that's just a
modern example, but how ancient is this practice and what is
that connected to? That might be far bigger than
just some little territorial dispute going on in the Middle
East. There might be an occult war
going on, various hidden war. So many interesting things in

(16:37):
that. But yeah, there's a whole, I did
this in was it Chapter 8 of my Cult of the Medics series.
It's called the Underground world.
It's about the underground world.
And and we talked about it as the physical underground.
Then we get into the criminal underground.
And then we talked about as an individual you get into a more
psychological component of that,that if you go with Young's

(16:59):
theory on the Shadow you, there's an inner underground
hidden world within your own psyche that needs to be
penetrated. So maybe in a weird way, because
we know that humans tend to project what's going on within
us onto the world, maybe these underground, this whole
underground thing we've just been talking about is actually

(17:21):
born out of that aspect of the human psyche.
And it's just an expression of the idea to hide and repress the
things that we don't want to see.
What do you do with it when you can't have it out in the
daylight on the surface, you gotto repress it.
So we repress those parts of ourselves we don't want to see.
We repress those thoughts and feelings we don't want to deal
with. Well, what does humanity do?

(17:42):
We repress the crimes and the evils and the things that we do,
and we hide them underground. And so if anybody wants to get
into intrigue and history and conspiracy and mystery,
definitely get into this underground world concept.
That'll blow your mind. Yeah, absolutely.
There are also stories, especially in the Middle East,

(18:04):
about giants and watchers and beings that once roamed the
land. Have you come across anything
that connects those cave systemsin that kind of way?
Well, I mean, I've definitely read about the giants.
Every culture has their story ofthem, which is really
interesting. It would really help explain

(18:24):
some of these monolithic ruins that we've got these cyclopean
ruins all over the world that just defy imagination.
If you're talking about primitive man Hawking, you know,
50 ton stones up to the top of this, you know, it's just
unbelievable, right? So you think, OK, when the Bible
says there were giants on the earth in those days, and then

(18:45):
you go, OK, well, maybe they were kind of bringing in some
some elements that are mythological.
Are they talking giants met, metmetaphorically, you know, giants
of of intellect, giants of reason or something, giants of
spirituality? Or are they talking like
physical giants? Well, I've always, always
thought that it's an interestingtheory to plug in because that

(19:06):
they're talking physical giants because, you know, they've,
there's always been the stories about these giant skeletons that
have been found and some anomalous things, right?
And some of them can be faked and we kind of have to go
through it with discernment, right?
But I definitely believe there are the real discoveries.
There's entire books written on this by a people that I've
interviewed, you know, over the years and they've collected all

(19:26):
the data on that. But I you don't need to go any
further than just reading all the myths and legends from all
around the world to just find that this discussion about giant
human beings doing miraculous things at in ancient times that
were lost to history, that's pretty ubiquitous.
So it makes me wonder if there is something to it.
And if we're talking about theseancient underground caverns, who

(19:50):
built that? But who built that?
How did they do it? Like today we use like you
should see the level of technology that's employed to do
underground military bases. So.
So that's another part of this underground story.
You got to go to Doctor Richard Souder on that one.
I got to interview him a few times and he wrote a book, I
think it's called The Hidden Underground or The Underground
World. And what he does is in a more

(20:12):
modern sense, he documents all of the underground military
bases. They call them dumbs, the deep
underground military bases. You've got them in Australia and
Canada and the US all over the US, You've got them in, no,
definitely in the Middle East aswell.
And it makes you just wonder, like, what is, what the Hell's

(20:32):
going on underground? Is it just for national security
or is there ancient secrets about the origins of humanity,
about the reality of life on this planet, about the diversity
of life that may be on this planet or visiting this planet
that might defy our conventionalworldview?
And I've often thought about this as being something that is

(20:55):
definitely legitimate. It's just the details are hazy
'cause we're not sitting at the classified table.
But we can, we can compare. We can look at all these ancient
ruins and in in underground systems, we can look at the
ancient ones, we can look at themodern ones.
We can read the myths and legends.
We can, you know, put it all together and then, you know,
we're sitting here going, wow, we've just got more questions

(21:18):
than we do answers. But for me, that's what makes
this something worth looking into.
There's something there. There's where there's smoke,
there's fire. And I think that we could be
looking at a story of human history that would change the
conventional view of both the religious creationists in their
particular way of looking at it and the evolutionary Darwinians.

(21:41):
There might have been something else that produced current
humanity, and maybe some of these giants were just maybe
different versions that eventually were phased out.
Maybe they're remnants of some sort of Neanderthal or
something. We've always had this talk about
Bigfoot and everything. Who knows?
But I guess when you put it all together, a fascinating story

(22:03):
definitely emerges, that's for sure.
Yeah, absolutely. So you haven't heard of any
modern giants that are in Iraq or Iran or Afghanistan?
I haven't heard of any modern one.
I've heard of the giant ISM likepeople that have that they they
could they look at it as like some kind of disorder, but
that's a genetic maybe that's a genetic throwback to a lost line

(22:24):
of human of genetics that was a little bit more prominent.
But you know, I've heard the rumors, I've heard the stories,
I've heard about, you know, the fact that they've got these
ancient kings buried. They're like 12 foot tall beings
or whatever. They're trying to wait for a
particular time in history for them to be resurrected or
whatever. Like this kind of stuff's been
going around forever. It's fascinating.

(22:46):
I currently I can't prove any ofthat, but at this point not much
would surprise me, you know? True.
So is Iran. Do you think Iran is being
positioned as a symbol of controlled revolution used to
maybe collapse western values aspart of a larger script?

(23:13):
Well, I mean, I don't know if that's what's going on right
now. I think Iran is in the position
to finally liberate itself from being under the control of one
of the most brutal regimes that we've seen in history.
If anybody's ever studied what goes on in modern day Iran with
this Islamic, these Islamic lunatics running the show over

(23:34):
there is absolutely brutal. The Western mind can't
comprehend it and therefore it doesn't.
And therefore, it remains ignorant to what's really been
happening. I had to talk to people from
Iran that immigrated here and Lebanon and other places.
I have many friends from that area who had to catch me up and
educate me. And my mind is never ceasing to
be blown. So I think the suppression of a

(23:58):
much more Western modern societyin Iran is the real story,
right? And that's what was done.
And my question is like when youlook at the pictures from the
70s or the 60s or 70s of Iran, you know, you might you thought
you could get confused. You might think you're looking
at pictures from America, American culture, because there

(24:22):
was very progressive at that time.
They wanted to move into a modern, the modern world.
They want, they idolize the American way.
They wanted to have that kind ofa modern approach, you know,
where you have a cosmopolitan, you have many ideas, you have
universities, you have education, you have wealth, you
have free markets, you have, youknow, good trade.

(24:42):
You have all these things and you have an army that could
defend you, you know, that isn'tprogrammed by a medieval cult.
OK, so you know, this was the dream and with the deposing of
the Shah and the bringing down of some of the figures that yes,
as evil as they might have been in their own right, some of

(25:03):
these dictators like Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi and all
these people, in a odd way, theywere actually good at taming
that area of the world, right. And and so when Bush senior
Knight Templar, you know, CIA Todd Skull and Bones through and
through, when he goes in and starts removing these people and

(25:25):
bring in the military and American military in there, like
what? That was also part of the
destruction of that region. And so, and I wouldn't blame
like Americans for that, other than maybe the ignorance of what
was going on. This was deep state people that
were in the American government that were used as pawns by the

(25:46):
real high table to move the American military into that
region and to disrupt something that was going on.
And that disruption only ended up in putting back these
medieval Islamic extremists intopower all over the region, which
has done nothing but keep it in this just war-torn, medieval
broken down situation that now you have to constantly send guys

(26:09):
in to reinforce, like the way the Roman Empire had to send
those legions out to sort of tame those areas, right?
But that's the Halliburton program, that's the Skull and
Bones program is sort of keep the wars going, right?
And I think it has to do with the fact that they're terrified
that that region of the world could actually rival, you know,

(26:32):
the West, the Western civilization.
But they're not in the sense that it would be aggressive, it
it would be in league with the Western culture, right?
And that terrifies the globalistbecause they, they want one ring
to rule them all. They don't want an independent
Iran. They don't want an independent
Germany or UK or America or Canada.

(26:52):
They want one ring of power for the world.
And you can't have that if you have these incredible
civilizations being built that people actually want to live in.
You can't have that. You have to constantly give
scarcity. And humans are just evil.
We're always fighting with each other.
And we need some kind of controlgrid to keep everybody in line.

(27:16):
That's the, the, the mindset that they need.
So Iran is a big part of this, not the people, but the, the way
that story unfolded. Because we're actually, you can
learn a lot by studying Iran andseeing what's happening right
now in say Canada or the US withthe way that it's being tried to
be taken over. Maybe not with that program that

(27:38):
works over there. It's a different type of program
that's going to work over here, but it's the same agenda in the
end and it's all about central control.
So I'm personally hoping and praying that the Iranian people
rise up and that this revolutionis not the communist style
revolution, right? Because there's two kinds of

(27:58):
revolution that can happen. One is the one we see the most
in the world, which is this communist revolution, which
always ends up deposing 1 dictator and then installing
another that's even worse. OK there.
But then there's the there's therevolutions like in America,
which was different than say, the French Revolution.
French Revolution is a communistrevolution, American Revolution,

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trying to shut, trying to fight against being taxed and enslaved
by the British Empire and wanting to be an independent
state. So I see Iran's fight at this
point there. They need to revolt against this
Islamic caliphate and they need to go back to their roots and
build that Persian society that is so rich.

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The the amount of knowledge thatthat culture has in that region
of the world would blow the mindof the average Westerner.
But it's been suppressed by those cult religions that have
been used as a way of suppressing them because the
knowledge and the history and the language and the culture and
the everything is, is so ancientand is so profound that it needs

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to be suppressed. And this would this is just a
testament to humanity. All of the cultures in the
world, if not suppressed by bad ideas and evil control freaks
and the, and the ignorance of the people in those regions
could rise to this high civilization status.
It's not about race or anything like that.
This is about bad ideas versus good ideas.

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And what Iran needs to do is go back to the good ideas that were
making it, putting it on that track of bringing it into one of
the wonders of the world. I believe that could be the
case. But it what happened, it got
embroiled in bad ideas, bad leadership, ignorant
populations, and here we are. Now, the good news is a lot of

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the Iranian people know this story that I'm telling you.
And that's why there's a hope ofthis being overturned.
They've just been held under gunfire and fear.
Well, I'm using that like they're held under the under the
sword of Islam. They've been held under that,
that fear for so long that, you know, I, I can understand
everybody's a bit trepidatious to go against it because they've

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been conditioned through fear just like we are in the West.
And what are we going to do? They're going to lock us up.
So, you know, I think that this is the moment that Iran can
shine and the Western world needs to watch what happens here
and needs to learn from it because that will be us in the
future. We're going to have to do the
same thing if we keep going downthe track we are to do and if we

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don't turn our boat around. So it's all eyes on Iran right
now. I think it's a great lesson, and
I'm still learning about it. And I think it's one of the
missing pieces in the research of of far too many people
because of how valuable it is, how ancient it is and how
relevant it is to our situation in the West.

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Is there a link between Iran's system and the same control
architecture we see in the cultomedics?
Well. Let's just say this.
It's the same strain of psychopathy, OK?
So like, yeah, we could get intothe liaisons that were done
historically between these Templar groups and these clergy

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groups and these Islamic groups.OK, There's there's that story,
right? Which is fascinating.
You can see that story told in the symbolism of Masonry and
Templarism. It's told right there in front
of your face. So that's an interesting thing
to look into. But and then also just realizing
there's the common thread between the three.

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See the three major Abrahamic religions, they all have the
same roots. Then none of them want to admit
it. OK, but they might admit it, but
they're not because the the feuds go too deep.
The feuds that are blood feuds that are basically genetic and
atavistic in their minds at thispoint.
It's impossible to have that conversation with the average,
right? But it's true.

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They all go back to the same roots and they were split.
There was splitting that took place and who split it and why?
And why has there never been unity between these groups?
And why have these groups been the number one of the number one
forces of war on the planet? What is that?
The holy men of the world are the ones fighting the most wars.

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Interesting. And everybody's guilty of it.
It's not like you could just go one if there's definitely, you
know, some worse than others. But in the end, what are we
talking about? Feuds over ideas, feuds over
history. And, and I get it right.
But you know, the, that that whole thing is about
understanding that when you get corrupt people working with

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sacred knowledge, that is a recipe for disaster.
And I think this is where a lot of people get confused is that
when we critique some of these religions in the way that I've
done, personally, what I'm actually trying to do is
resurrect the original concepts and bring people back there
again. The corruption that has taken

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place was corrupted by the handsof priests and priesthoods and,
and the, and the human, us humans through history, we've,
we corrupted it because the truth is sometimes so potent and
powerful. We don't want anything to do
with it, right? It's so interesting, isn't it?
It's like reverse psychology or something where we all want the
truth, but none of us will actually want the truth.

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And so when people come give youthe truth about reality, about
consciousness, about everything,what do you do?
Well, you, you, humanity doesn'twant it or we're not ready for
it. So there might have even been
legitimate need to keep a lot ofthis information underground in
these secret societies Once Upona time.
But that also allows for psychopaths to get in the pot

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and mix it up and get into the positions of power and influence
in those cults and then change the direction of the history of
that whole cultural framework orthat religion or that ideology.
And then it gets, it's like telephone.
It just changes over time. So now the version of religion
that people listen to is just sogarbled, mixed up,

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mistranslated, misunderstood, misrepresented, much of it on
purpose to keep everybody ignorant and divided, that it's,
it's kind of hard to even get started with this conversation
with most people today. But we do it anyways.
We put it out and there's many scholars that were brave enough.
And I'm talking going hundreds of years, thousands of years

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ago, writers were talking about some of these issues.
And what I've done and what we've done on the Enslaved
Project is get the names of all these great thinkers that were
trying to show people, OK, here's the real history of these
ideas and where they come from. And those original ideas were a
lot more about promoting unity and peace and prosperity in the

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world then their modern, their modern versions.
And so when you understand that it's going to start you on the
journey of going, well, let's golook under the hood.
Let's go find out what happened to corrupt Christianity.
What happened to corrupt Islam? What happened to corrupt
Judaism? What happened to corrupt these
religions? Have you even been doing stuff
on Tibetan Buddhism as well? This is nobody gets out of this

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unscathed, OK? It's, it's a human problem that
we're dealing with here in the psyche, right?
So when you're on that level, then everything's going to start
to make more sense. And also we can realize that we
don't have to reinvent the wheel.
We don't have to reinvent ideas in order to save our culture,

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our civilization. We just have to go back to the
roots, go back to the originals and realize where they went
wrong over time and correct those mistakes.
And then we can have something that's actually true religion
and true spirituality and true culture, which is the real
function of religion, in my opinion.
Is it? It's something that can unite a
culture, right? And so, yeah, I think that, you

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know, just getting into this idea of what are the
connections, There's nothing butconnections between these
ancient cults. And then that's only the public
square religion, right? Don't forget, these were the
religions given to us, written for us by who?
The intelligentsia, the priest class, right?

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The ones that had the access that we didn't have, the ones
who were literate and could readand write and decipher and
understood symbolism. The average Joe not that long
ago was literally just getting up and farming and working and
toiling and then fighting in allthe battles they're supposed to
fight in and basically just having no time for being

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educated about their history, their religions, or any of this
stuff. There's a good story to know
about even in Christianity that it wasn't until like, oh man, it
wasn't that long ago that we couldn't even take Bibles home
with us. They were chained to the, to the
benches in the church, chained to the lecterns.

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So you couldn't even take him home to study them or critique
them. You know, Islam was already
going for like, I don't know, 800 years or more before
Christians in the West could even read and write and start
reading the Bible and critiquingit 'cause it was held so close
to the chest of the priesthood, right?
Just to let you know. So Islam had all that time to

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bake in those ideas and get those people reading those
hadiths and Qurans, right and now and then and and
Christianity was having it read to them, right.
And the issue is that that corruption of those texts
happened in all of those religions.
So one is always saying, no, ours is the pure one and our

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yours is not. Look, there's, there's plenty of
evil to go around and it all started with the corruption of
ideas. And so my thing has been, how do
we fix that? Well, the best thing you can do
is get out the etymology, get out the symbolism, get out the
original text that we have. We've got the Nag Hammadi text

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now we've got the, the Dead Sea Scrolls.
We've just been doing a whole series on unsaved about the Dead
Sea Scrolls. It's a 10 part series.
That's how long it takes just toget into that subject and, and
learning about what happened in both Judaism and Christianity,
which also does affect Islam as well when it comes to the

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chicanery of these priesthoods. So, you know, I've been trying
to advocate for people to go back to the original.
And if you want to know where the original is, it's, you know,
it's, it's something that in a way you got to piece together
yourself. And it's something that is
actually written inside of all of us in a way.
And in these ancient stories andthese ancient traditions, we're

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just trying to encapsulate, you know, the sum total of human
knowledge and, and how to build a healthy family, how to build a
healthy culture and a healthy civilization.
And that's the, that's the positive message that's in
there. But the negative is all about,
well, wait a minute, there's allthis spiritualism that's going
to come in and tell us our God is better than your God.

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And anybody serving that God is evil and worthy of execution or
enslavement. And boom, all you need is that
and you can keep people fightingfor centuries, which is what
we've witnessed. Yeah, true.
There's so much that you just said right there.
I don't even know where to begin.
So this this fighting it, it's not about the control of land.

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It's it's something deeper than that, right?
I mean, I don't know if it's about the ancient sites or Ley
lines or, or something deeper. Yeah, you're.
Yeah, well, I'd say #1 is control of human consciousness
OK? Because.
And what that tells us is how valuable human consciousness is,
OK, because of the uniqueness ofour cognition and what we can do

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that animals can't do. And so there's something
valuable about it. And if you can guide that, you
have power. They always say win the crowd,
and you win whatever you want, right?
You win your freedom. You win your.
Your rulership, you got to win the minds of the crowd because
that's the real power. How are you going to get all

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these people to go and work the minds?
How you going to get all these people to fight all your wars?
How you going to get all these people to move and shape and
change the world to your vision,right?
The vision of the Caesars, the vision of the Pharaohs, the
vision of Alexander the Great orwho Napoleon or and the Islamic,
the Moorish Empire, like how areyou going to get humanity to be,

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to go out and do inhumane thingsto his brothers and sisters out
there? How you going to get the people
to do that? Religion is the way to go.
It's the way to go. And, and the reason is, is
because you can get people thinking outside of the terms of
reality, the facts of reality. You can get them into, Oh,
we're, we're doing this for a higher purpose.

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We're doing forget about what's happening in this filthy fallen
world. This is the message of religion,
right? Forget about this filthy fallen
world run and ruled by the devil.
Forget about this body that's just a cage of your soul.
It's basically like a prison ward and that's locking your
soul in there. And it's just got like the
hatred of the body and the hatred of nature is the number

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one culprit to be looking at as a bad idea that led humanity to
destroy nature and destroy itself for thousands of years
over these bad ideas. Because think about it, if
you're, if all your promises of,of hope and freedom and wealth
and just all the beautiful things that we want, we want as

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humans, if that can only be achieved after you die in the
afterlife in some heavenly realmor in some other dimension of
reality, what happens to this reality?
It becomes what it has become. So is there is is it really true
that this world is ruled by justpure evil?

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There's no good here. It's not a balanced template
that is a mirror of human consciousness, right?
It's it's just default position is evil along with the the body
being evil, right? This is the Gnostic ideology
that that is the progenitor of alot of the stuff that came into
Christianity and and these otherreligions as well.

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That idea of the hatred of the world, hatred of nature, it
became an antipathy to nature, right?
Well, look at nature, look at the desecration like an anti
human ideology can be justified.Like these jihadists going
blowing people up and chopping them up into pieces while
filming it on GoPro cameras. Where does that come from?

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Well, it's justified under the religious idea that, well, I
will be rewarded in the afterlife for taking out the
enemies of my God. What other?
What else do you need? You get a bunch of people
running around with that programin their head.
You've got the history of these death cults, you know, that have

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taken over. And what if you found out that
that wasn't just some natural human blunder that took over,
took place over a period of time, but that was actually done
on purpose by the real psychopaths that took and wore
the clothing and the garbs of your priesthood who maybe were
not corrupt Once Upon a time? What about if we go back to say,

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the original Christianity that goes way before 2000 years ago,
by the way? You know, that's a, that's a
story to get into the real precepts that came out of
Judaism, which they did not invent, by the way, that comes
out of Egypt and before. And then we got the whole lost
chapter of Atlantis and everything else to bring into
that as a theory, right? Where do these ideas come from?

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And then how do they get corrupted?
Well, it, it, that is the study of my life.
That's the something that got meinto it because I was raised as
a fundamentalist Christian and Ihad so many questions about
that. And there were many things I
loved about the religion and then many things that absolutely
horrified me. And I could never square it.
I could never reconcile it. And then every religion I

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studied, I'd be like, well, I'm really liking these ideas that
I'm finding in Buddhism until I keep looking deeper and find
nothing but horrors behind your imagination, right?
I'm like, Oh my God, there's some really dark evil shit in
there too. And then everywhere you look,
it's going to be like this, which tells me something
actually, that that's everything.
And that's why you can't just look at the world as only evil

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or only good. Are you only good or only evil?
No, it seems like we live in a duality in a way where you have
the propensity for both. And the point of true religion
is to balance those extremes andget you on that, that narrow
path that's going to keep you. And you know it's going to build
your inner temple and it's goingto build the temple around you

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in the world. That's going to be something
that works with the facts of reality and the principles of
nature. But when you violate those laws
like these priesthoods have done, you get what we've got
now. Just the worst of the worst
ideas were the ones that won. And the better ideas got
suppressed because those better ideas liberated human minds, and

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they created wealth and prosperity beyond your wildest
imagination. And the elites of the world that
wanted power don't want you to have that.
They want it for themselves only.
And there's an old thing when itcomes to these types of people,
right, that we know. Like if you look at the nature
of envy or resentment like thosethe, the, the seven deadly sins,

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you look at how they work on somebody.
They say that a lot of these tyrants in history, their
ideology was not as simple as just wanting to steal what other
people had so they can enrich themselves.
That's a primary basic motivation.
These guys, it's worse than that.
They just don't want you to haveit.

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That's the difference. It's not good enough that
they're just like, oh, I just want to steal what you got so I
can enrich myself. That's a very basic primal
thing. It's, it's more insidious than
that. It's that they've got the wealth
of the world already under theirthumb and they just don't want
you to have any of it. They could give it to you and it
wouldn't even bother. It wouldn't even mess with them

(46:33):
at all. But they just don't want you to
have it because they have a hatred for you.
They have a hatred of themselves.
If you have a hatred of yourself, how can you have a
love for humanity? How can you have a love of
anybody? See, I believe that you are
incapable of loving another person truly and authentically
or caring about them if you don't love and care for
yourself. And I'm talking truly here, not

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talking narcissism. I'm talking like true organic,
you know, understanding that youare an expression of the all, as
is everybody else. And that's the place you should
be starting. That's the true religion, right?
But the minute I can bring in anidea that says, ah, but there's
conditions on that. And if anybody else has a

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different way of expressing thatthey are evil, they are
condemned to hell for eternity and they are to be extinguished.
They are to, you know, and that you can keep these wars going on
forever. So you can take these religious
ideas that were Once Upon a timejust it was ancient sagicity.
It was ancient philosophy. It was it was the combining of

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theology and philosophy. It was like, you know, it was a
way of trying to uplift and enhance human consciousness and
point it in the right direction.That was what I think the
original intent of religion was.Take that and then Fast forward
thousands of years later and what is it today?
A bunch of garbled nonsense that's basically just re

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scripted psychopathy in many ways, OK.
And it's it's loaded with self hate, a condemnation of all of
humanity, a condemnation of the natural world and the natural
order, right? And you know it.
And then when you look around and you see the chaos of the
world, it can. It's not that hard to understand

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how that came to be. If we had uplifted and upheld
traditions and religious ideas that were the opposite of that,
we would not be in this situation, right?
So someone wants us in this situation because someone
empowers themselves and profits from the situation, and they've
been able to hoodwink generations of humanity to go

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Knowing about it, which you know, is why the work of trying

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to unwind that and say it, let people know, hey, here's here's
the ideas that can reconcile that better for you, that don't
end up leaving you in in servitude to these corrupt ones,
but end up back in alignment with the natural order.
See, that would be the way to bring it.
And that's what many people are trying to do to sort of reform a
lot of these ideas. But you know, and some, like, I

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would say Christianity and and Judaism reformed far better
light years ahead of say Islam, for example, right?
But at the same time, they're still stuck in the they're still
stuck well behind the curve fromwhere they could be.
And I go to the great writers that were talking about this
even in the 16th, 17th centuries, trying to bring back

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the the original ideas here. So anyways, there's my little
rant on it. I hope I eventually answered
your question in there. Yes I know.
I have a friend in Egypt and religion is a big thing.
They're on their ID, his driver's license.
It mentions what religion they are, which when he gets card it,

(50:32):
for whatever reason, it tells them what his beliefs are right
there. And that's very disturbing to
him because it changes the way they react to him.
Just by saying that he's a Christian on his driver's
license living in Egypt. Well, he is Egyptian.
That's crazy. Well, and just on that and just

(50:56):
putting my just to say really quickly here, this is no
confusion. When I'm critiquing as an, I'm
an insider in Christianity, right?
I grew up Christian, I'm culturally Christian, right?
But when I'm critiquing that from a, from a scholarly, like
from that perspective of trying to get into the reality of it,

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that's not me trying to condemn the religion or say nobody, you
know, I, I, I, I look around, I believe in religious freedom,
OK? I just think that when you look
at what's going on, say in Egyptor elsewhere in the Middle East
with what's going on with the Christians, the Coptic
Christians, whatever, they're being massacred by Islamic

(51:39):
extremists. And that is not being discussed.
Only thing that's being discussed is what's going on in
Israel, Palestine, because it involves Jews.
And there's something bigger behind that as well, OK.
And that's not me even getting into the nuance of how there's
evils being can be committed allover the place.
OK. You could easily separate any

(51:59):
criticism of the Jewish state, the Israeli government, the deep
state embedded in the Israeli government or in the
intelligence agencies. And you can easily separate that
from the Israeli people, the Jewish people in Israel.
Like we can get, we can separatethat, right?
But the The funny thing is aboutthe Christians in the Middle
East, like, where are the Christians now?

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There used to be way more Christians around the Middle
East and they're just go to the Islamic nations and try to find
them. There's there, Egypt might have
a few left, you know, like, that's about it.
And yeah, they're not treated very well.
And what's amazing is that thesereligions used to be all
brothers and cousins. Like, you know, like even the

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Jew I spoke to Jewish people wholived in Israel, grew up in
Israel, and they moved to the West.
And they're like, we were those Palestinians are my cousins.
They're my brother or my family.We're we're all Arabs.
Like we, we come from the same region, we just went with
different religious beliefs or whatever.
And now our, our states are fighting it out, right?

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And I'm like, yeah, don't worry.It's the same thing that
happened to us here in the West,right, with Christianity.
And so, you know, my heart is broken every time I see these
reports. And you never get any traction
on what's going on with these Christian massacres.
You don't get any traction in the media.
You don't get it in the alternative media.
Candace Owens sure isn't talkingabout it.

(53:23):
You know what I mean? Like, so why, why are we
selective with what we're critiquing here?
And then that's just one point. The other point was when he's
looking at his passport. I didn't know that.
That's pretty crazy. Because think about it, what if
you are a Christian? Well, what denomination, right?
There's what, 50,000 different ones?
So which, which nomination? And then if you're saying your

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ID has to show that and it just so happens to be ruled by
Islamic authority, which it is, yeah, they're going to be
looking down your nose and you're going to be on the list,
right? It's already happening here in
Canada, where we had a Christiansinger, can't remember his name,
and he was labeled by the media as a MAGA influencer coming

(54:07):
because they got this whole thing in Canada.
They got everybody with mass formation of both the tariffs
and Trump is evil and Canada versus the US.
So all the media has to do is come out because they censored
this American singer who's a Christian, OK, from having a
Christian concert in Canada. They shut it down.
They put the headlight out. He's a MAGA influencer, which

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must mean he's like a Nazi or something.
That's the way the media talks about it.
And not only did they shut him down, they fined him 2500 bucks
for per for wanting to perform literally just to perform a
concert. Yet meanwhile, all over this
country, in all the major cities, we've got those
Palestine protests where they'reliterally, they're finding like

(54:53):
Hezbollah members in there and they're flying ISIS flags and
shit and they're burning Canadian flags in the street.
OK, that's totally cool in communist Canada, but some
Christian singer that wants to come and have a very peaceful
gathering of people that just want to sing and talk about
Jesus or whatever, that's somehow going to be illegal and

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they're fined. Remember what happened in
Canada? For any Canadians listening, and
anybody else should listen as well 'cause this is a historical
precedent we've seen when communist or fascist type
tyrannies come in is that they, they want to destroy, they want
to route out all the religions and they're only using Islam

(55:34):
right now and Islam needs to hear this.
Cause your pawn's in a bigger game, boys.
Sorry, you guys think you're just out there.
You're going to go and take overthe world, make it a caliphate
pipe dream. Not going to happen.
The people that you are working with at the elite table that are
sponsoring you and allowing you access to the West, you're got.

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You guys are going to be the first ones on the wall.
Just so you know, you're just the orc army that they're
bringing in to get their plan inplace, but you're just use
you're useful pawns for them, OK.
But they know these guys know how to organize everybody's
belief system so that they Marchinto the battles that they want
and they don't see it coming. So but right now Islam is being

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used as the tip of the spear in the West and it's creating
cognitive dissonance with the the radical leftist which are
supporting the globalist agenda.They don't even know it because
Islam and the radical left ideology are completely
diabetrically opposed to each other.

(56:38):
And Islam will wipe out the radical lefties with the purple
hair on day one. And then the people that are
using Islam are going to wipe them out and install their new
Cyborg technocracy, right? So that's kind of how I see it.
But I'm just bringing this up because in Canada they've been
going after Christianity for a while because this is a hallmark

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of communism, See. Cause the thing that is positive
in Christianity and Judaism, actually that is totally
different than anyone else, is the idea that there is an
individual that gets to make a choice, right?
You get to choose if you believeor if you don't.

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It's looked at as free will. See, They believe in free will,
OK? And and they also believe in
hard work as a way of building culture.
And so those two precepts alone completely work against the
power, the the global high tablethat wants to install this new

(57:41):
technocracy, right, the new globalist infrastructure so that
there's a reason they want it. And it's not because they're
like just they're not the just the Satanists that hate
Christianity. I think that's sort of a cartoon
character of the situation. There's a reason they hate these
things. They want to build one world
religion, just like they want one world government, they want

(58:03):
one world religion. Now, I wouldn't be against a
world recognition of the originsof all religion, which would
free us all from this dogma that's been tearing this place
up for thousands of years. But the instituting of a global
religion by these people at the UN or whatever, trust me, it's
not going to be the the pie in the sky, love and light one.

(58:24):
It's going to be something that is facilitating more control.
And it's going to be something much more rooted in, I think,
atheism and materialism than it's going to be any kind of
spirituality. But that's just my
guesstimation. I think it's more the
transhumanism, which is the realnew religion they want to bring
in. But they're going to use the
religions like Game of Thrones. They're going to use these

(58:46):
things to weed each other out and fight it down until it's a
smaller number that they can then route it out completely and
erase it forever. OK.
And what they don't want you to have is religious freedom.
So when you see in Canada that for now, over a decade since
Trudeau got in, since the Liberals got in, now taken over

(59:07):
by Chatham House President Mark Carney, they have been
systematically attacking Christianity at the root because
they need to make way for Islam to come in.
And these other cultures and these other cultures are highly
offended by Christianity 'cause they got genetic memory of an

(59:29):
ancient wars with us, OK. And so they need to, they're
allowing that to take place. You got the churches that were
burned to the ground, I think. I don't know how what the number
is in Canada, but it's like, I don't know, dozens and dozens of
these churches that have been burnt to the ground through
these protests, you know, and then they've got these guys

(59:51):
coming in and doing open calls of prayer all over Canada,
right? And then a Christian.
So the end, they got these protests where that's totally
fine. They're on loud speakers
speaking Arabic and they're shouting like if we get the
translations of what they're shouting out at downtown Toronto
on Bloor Street or whatever, your mind will be blown.

(01:00:11):
You're like, where are we? Where are we in Beirut right
now? That's OK.
But some guy coming to have a concert, No, we're going to shut
him down. We're going to find him.
Now. This happened in Montreal.
And I just got to say Montreal. Montreal was one of the worst
places during the lockdowns for COVID tyranny, one of the worst.
They literally had curfews that that's where you saw a lot of

(01:00:34):
the footage of people being literally dragged out of homes
by cops because there was too many people over at barbecues
and family dinners and stuff came from Montreal.
They literally had like a like, it was almost like martial law
in Montreal. It was brutal, OK.
And so they're being run by a bunch of left wing maniacs.
And those guys are the ones thatare in charge of this fiasco

(01:00:57):
with this Christian singer and many, many other things.
So what I'm trying to lead up tohere is a very interesting thing
that has occurred that too many people don't understand, which
is that there has been alliancesformed that would blow your
mind. Most people would be like, Dave,
you're you're having me on here.I'm not.
The alliances were formed between the radical left,

(01:01:20):
socialist communists with Islam.Can you believe it?
And now you got to plug in. So that would be like we call
the all that left wing stuff. We're calling that the woke left
just to make an easy way to the woke left, the like the radical
left. Well, now and we got this
Islamist group, which is like the extreme of Islam, because we

(01:01:42):
know not all Muslims are evil, violent people at all.
Like, but there's billions of Muslims around the world that
aren't out there killing people,right.
So this is not about a a people thing.
This is about OK, there's but there is something where unique
in Islam that has led to, I don't know, something like I got
the number. I should tell you the number,
yeah, 47,047 thousand plus terrorist attacks committed by

(01:02:08):
jihadists in over 70 countries. And that's just since 9:11.
Think about that number. OK, So there's something unique
about the doctrine of Islam thathas been used as this weapon,
OK, that is being promoted by the left.
What, aren't they against big government?

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Aren't they against patriarchy? Aren't they against like there's
no queers for Palestine happening?
I just want you to know that's not going to be a thing in
reality. That's a thing on a bunch of
signs by university students that don't know what they're
talking about because they've been lied to by the Marxist
professors. The truth of it is, if you go
over to an Islamic country like that, they're going to be doing

(01:02:54):
gravity experiments on, you know, this is not, this is not
disputable. So how that alliance was formed,
most people would say I'm absolutely crazy for bringing it
up, but here it is. It's so obvious.
I start going in and I start researching these different
groups in the Middle East. Don't you have it that the PLO,
the Palestine Authority, Hamas, these groups, do you know that

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they're all founded by groups that identify with Leninism and
Stalinism? The they all the symbolism of
it, it goes back to the Arab, the Young Arabs and The Young
Turks and the Young Italians. And that was built, that was set
up by Giuseppe Mancini, who tookover the mantle of the actual
Illuminati from out of Weisha. OK.

(01:03:38):
So he sponsored these young and what that was, was about getting
the youth emblazoned with the Marxist ideology.
They call it the fire of the mind.
They light the fire of the mind in the youth.
They use Marxism to do it. Marxism was something that came
from the occult world by the way.
It wasn't dreamt up by Karl Marx.
It was funded by highway. More powerful people had nothing

(01:03:59):
to do with Karl Marx. He was just the delivery boy.
And then you had the other experiment which was going on in
Germany and Italy, which was fascism and and Nazism.
The unique blend, which is the same ideology, the same script,
just geared towards maybe the middle and upper classes,
whereas communism and Marxism was geared towards the lower

(01:04:19):
classes. So they they kind of cornered
the market there, made it look like there was this war between
the Nazis and the Communists when in fact they were just two
gangs fighting over the same territory.
The elite high table that was financing both sides
simultaneously look back and went, you know what?
I think communism be better overhere in these areas and those

(01:04:39):
demographics and fascism and Nazism appeals way over here in
these areas and perfect for the Western male.
We're going to go after the Western male with that idea.
We're going to go after the Western female with this idea
over here, the socialism. And they played this as a way of
taking over the institutions in the West and dividing our
countries and our nations. This is part of the Yuri

(01:05:01):
Besmanov playbook. OK, I'm sorry, I'm bringing in a
lot, but it's important so to think about the fact that these
alliances took place between Nazis, Communists, and
Islamists. If you were just reading
mainstream history, you're already slamming your head on
the table going no, that's impossible.

(01:05:22):
But I'm here to tell you no, it's very possible.
And it's easy for me to prove toyou it's happening right now.
Now, why would they have an alliance with those groups?
Those groups would tear each other to bits if allowed.
But there's something happening right now in the world where
they're not. They're actually working in
league with each other for one objective.
And what is that objective? To destroy America and to

(01:05:44):
destroy Western civilization? They both, all three of those,
all three of that Hydra have thesame objective, OK, Because the
ideas, the the founding principles of the West of
America, despite any of the corruption that has happened
over time, we got to put that aside and not pair those two

(01:06:05):
things together. All we're going to look at the
founding principles. They are kryptonite to the
ideologies of extremismism, the Nazi socialists, the National
Socialists and the communists, globalists, right?
It's kryptonite to all of them. So they went and there's no way
they can take out America because of the military power

(01:06:26):
that they have. So you have to ally with your
enemies to take them out. And that's what I think is
happening. So it's, it's when I said in the
last show, it's like a episode of Game of Thrones or an entire
season. It is like that the Game of
Thrones is all these Internesianstruggles between various
families and groups and religions and ideologies and all

(01:06:49):
this stuff that's been going on.And then the whole time that
everybody's squabbling about allthat irrelevant nonsense,
there's a greater force like those White Walkers in that show
that is encroaching upon all of our gates.
And this means that this will bebad for Muslims, Jews, left wing
people, right wing people. Because what the people I'm

(01:07:10):
talking about when you go through the levels all the way
up to the top, they are anti human.
They are anti human. They, they have an anti human
ideology. They have a, they have a mandate
of depopulation and central control and to essentially phase
out the human being and replace the human being with a

(01:07:32):
cybernetic being. That's their joke, that's their
game. So these are not, in my opinion,
these are people that broke awayfrom the human family and human
civilization. So they are just simply using
these different feuds and, and, and divisions of humanity as a
way of continuing their own agenda.
And the people involved and the groups involved are so blinded

(01:07:54):
by their own cult doctrine and their own desire to be at the
head of the heap that they're not seeing it coming.
And that's what I'm here to, youknow, warn everybody about.
Wow. And not only are we getting
bombarded by all that, but also we have the other side with
China and the fentanyl destroying American and the

(01:08:14):
Western culture as well. We got that.
Yeah, so that's an interesting one.
In Canada, I always let people know about Sam Cooper.
He's the guy to go to on that. He's been a journalist here for
decades. He'd been covering it.
He's written books on it. His name is Sam Cooper.
He'd be a good guest if you can ever get him, because what he
brings to the table, yes, it's from the Canadian perspective,

(01:08:37):
but this will be very relevant in America because of all this
stuff about the tariffs and whatTrump was demanding of Canada in
order to not have the tariffs supplied.
And this is what spurred on his discussion about the 51st state,
because he can't have this northern border wide open to
have China and Russia and Iran and these, these other hydra

(01:08:59):
elements having a doorway into America.
He can't have that. That's why he had to seal off
the seldom border because of theway that that was being used.
And it's the same problem in Canada.
And what Sam Cooper, and I'm notsaying Sam gets into all that,
but what he gets into is this fentanyl crisis and the China
connection. And it's I, I still, I'm still

(01:09:20):
reading his book and every time I'm picking it up, I'm like,
holy smokes. And he brings the receipts.
I mean, he's a journalist. So he's sourcing it all.
And you go through it, interviews with border officials
and RCMP and, and you know, CSISmembers and whatnot on the level
of fentanyl that's being broughtinto Canada and how, you know,
China is a major faction here. And I think a lot of people

(01:09:41):
think that China's using what they call in China, they call it
irregular warfare. And they said years ago, because
China has its vision, just like Islam has its vision of taking
over the world, China has its vision of taking over the world.
And when I say China, I'm talking about the Communist
Party of China. I'm not talking about, you know,
I've, I know there's a lot of Chinese patriots and, and

(01:10:02):
freedom loving people that are trying to fight what's going on
there. And many have moved to Canada.
And I know them and I learned a lot of this from them.
So I always go to the people that lived it.
But yeah, the CCP party pumping in the fentanyl.
This is a weapon just like COVIDwas a weapon just like that.

(01:10:23):
It's all just arrows in the quiver to shoot at the West and
destroy the place. And so I think that if you look
at the amount of homeless peopleon the street, what's the number
one reason they're homeless? It's because they're drug
addicts or they're mentally ill,or maybe those two things go
hand in glove. Maybe the incredible toxic drugs

(01:10:47):
and fentanyl that's laced in everything is, is just splitting
everybody's mind, right? And so you've got all these
people addicted to these drugs out on the street, right?
And there's nothing being done to actually solve that problem.
This has been known in all Western countries for a long
time. We've been begging for it to be
done, something to be done, and they never do anything about it.

(01:11:10):
And so it just gets worse. So now in the beautiful city
that I live near Victoria, BC used to be one of the gems of
Canada, one of the most beautiful places.
Even when I first moved here 10 years ago, it was like, oh, look
at the little cafes, you can walk safe at night.
It's just beautiful. Now it's like a scene from The
Walking Dead. You go downtown, you're stepping

(01:11:32):
over needles, feces, the most disgusting, just human plight,
human condition you can imagine,drug addicts everywhere, people
howling at the freaking moon during the day, you know, like,
it's just, it's brutal, OK? They're they're living in these
tent cities and taking over the most beautiful national parks

(01:11:53):
and the government's like, yeah,please go take care of them.
Go ahead. It's horrific, OK.
And what's pushing that? And what's pushing the the death
numbers due to these fentanyl overdoses, like overdose is
probably one of the most the number one killers in Canada,
People overdosing on this shit. OK.

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And think about how that worked hand in glove with the lockdown
stuff, right? So lockdowns was a weapon
because they want Western peopleto get used to that level of
government power, OK, Because we're not used to it.
So they want us to get used to it.
The COVID was a dry 1A dry run. That's what I think, and what

(01:12:35):
they did was with the lockdowns that started a depression
epidemic and a suicide epidemic that we hadn't seen.
Those numbers are shocking. We're still getting access to
them and I'll bet you they're watered down.
OK, The amount of suicides that happened when I was going
through the whole research and present presentations.
IN2020I interviewed 4 local paramedics in my local

(01:13:00):
community. One of them I recorded.
Three of them didn't want to be recorded, but I spoke to them
anyways. Three of them were from
Vancouver, which is was supposedto be one of the ground zeroes
of COVID, right? He's like, I was in Vancouver
Ground Zero when COVID broke outand we were told about what was
going to happen. We were told that this is going

(01:13:21):
to be the worst thing we've everseen.
Bodies in the street. Like that's what they were told.
He's like a month later, I'm still twiddling my thumbs
waiting for the big thing to hit, 'cause it didn't hit the
way we were told. He said, you know what hit?
You know what we were picking up?
Suicides, overdoses and heart attacks.

(01:13:42):
That's what we were picking up. That's what was up.
That was on the uptick. Then interviewed A paramedic
from Alberta like a year in and she said the same thing.
We're picking up drug addicts like so overdoses of fentanyl,
suicides and heart attacks, number one, those are the top
three. I'm not picking up people that

(01:14:03):
are dying of COVID in their bedrooms.
OK, not to say that doesn't happen.
The elderly and immunocompromised, right?
But like, that wasn't the epidemic.
The epidemic numbers were not COVID.
The epidemic numbers were these three things.
So and the, and then the, when you find out the policies that
the government installed to try to stop COVID actually exploded

(01:14:27):
those other 3. And that was before the vaccine
came out. Now you got that and the Pfizer
heart and the whole thing. So I get to that point where all
that stuff with the drugs being coming in and the mass
immigration from countries, these unvetted military age
fighting men being poured into our countries living in
four-star hotels while the average Canadian and and a

(01:14:48):
Canadian military vets are rotting on the street and
they're all addicted to fentanyl.
There's no innocent explanation in my mind, Maya.
There's no innocent explanation that I can come up with that,
oh, the government just sort of tried their best, but just
fumble the ball. No, no, this is intentional and
sustained over time despite the evidence of the carnage that

(01:15:10):
it's causing. That's not an explanation that
can be given. That's innocent.
So I hope that what we see goingon with Trump right now.
And I was happy to see he's bringing the shit up to Ursula,
top Nazi of the EU, and bringingit up to Starmer, the
conservative loser in the UK that has been destroying that

(01:15:33):
country ever since it got its independence from the EU There.
At least Trump was bringing this, these issues up to them.
And the fact that Trump, I don'tcare what people in Canada think
about Trump, or they love him orhate him or they like, oh, the
51st state, that rubs me the wrong way.
You know why he's bringing that up?
So that the conversation can be had about what I'm talking about

(01:15:54):
'cause he knows this and he's the only guy talking about it at
that level and he's making this conversation go viral as a
result. So I'm like hats off to him for
that. For starting the conversation
about what needs to be cleaned up in Canada.
Because far too many Canadians are under the false delusion.
The Canada is somehow this like bright and shining example to
the world. It's the best place in the world

(01:16:15):
to live. We don't have any corruption
here. Everything's on the up and up.
Our politicians and our media would never lie to us.
We're the goody 2 shoes Canadians eh?
No buddy, we are the place that they hid all of their crimes and
we are one of the most propagandized populations on the
face of the earth I'm sorry to say.
And it's because this shit, along with the human trafficking

(01:16:38):
I'd even get into that goes through Vancouver all the time,
goes on while we sleep. And it's not just a Canadian
issue. You brought up China.
That's where this started. We're talking foreign government
and foreign adversaries that arecoming in to mess the pot up for
their agenda, as well as internal enemies that are

(01:16:59):
working on the payroll or on theblackmail threat of the of the
high table. That has their own agenda.
And they want to destroy the Western sovereignty of their
countries. And they want to turn it over to
the new system, which is going to be everything we've been
talking about, this new global one world system.
And so this is a, these are all means of attack for me.

(01:17:21):
This is how I see it as these were just the different weapons
they use, the drugs, the propaganda, the COVID, the
vaccine, the, you know, on and the transing of kids, like the
whole thing, the economy. Like that's the other thing
people forget. We had the biggest transfer of
wealth in human history during the 2020 to 2024 as all the
small, medium sized businesses were shut down.

(01:17:43):
Who would want to do that? Well, the enemies of capitalism
would want to do that. That's how you shut down the
system. You overwhelm the system.
And they actually wrote in Marcusa's books and all these
communists writing how to do it and they're doing it.
So when they write how to do it,they say they want to do it and
then they start doing it. My job's pretty easy.

(01:18:04):
I just got to tell people, hey guys, they said they're going to
do it. They practice doing it.
They did it in a lot of other countries and now they're doing
it here the way they said they were going to do it.
All I got to do is do that, and I still get told that I'm just a
conspiracy theorist. But it just comes with the job I
guess. Well, you know, they've mastered
the art of illusion, making us believe we have that free will.

(01:18:26):
You know, every choice was placed there by them.
It it's really not freedom, it'sa controlled consent I believe
for sure. Yeah, that's a good point.
Actually. Think about it.
What you just said. My as you're thinking about
that, I'm thinking what's a goodexample to compare that to for
people? Well, think of a narcissist you
might have been in a relationship with as a friend, a

(01:18:47):
Co worker, a spouse, right? How do they work?
How does that sociopathic type person work?
They do that exact same thing. They present dilemmas to you
always. There's only two choices You
have. One, you support and love me.
Two, you're my enemy. It's never, there's never
negotiation in there. And I always, every time I read

(01:19:09):
those accounts to talk about thequalities of narcissism and
sociopathy and like bad relationships, I'm like, if
they're defining our relationship with our
governments right now, which is not the way it should be and
it's not the way it was originally drafted.
It's just the way it's become. Just like I was telling you
about that corruption factor we saw in religion.
Did you think it's any differentin politics?
Right. And like I said in that rant

(01:19:31):
about religion, that doesn't mean we throw religion out.
It just means we got to route out the the rotten aspects that
have come in through that corruption.
It's the same with the West. See, I'm also not an anarchist
like many others in this movement who would just say,
well, I see evil, so therefore the whole thing is evil.
We got to blow it up. Yeah, but you don't know history
enough to understand that, you know, there you can't.

(01:19:53):
You're going to blow up everything good as well.
So we we have to look at it thisfrom a much more nuanced
perspective, I think, and just understand wherever we go as
humans, there we are, wherever we look.
Oh, there's amazing, beautiful things being created.
Oh, but then there's also. Toxic, crazy, corruption and

(01:20:14):
psychopathy and evil happening. Like you're always going to find
that. So we just, that's why you have
to be vigilant against these things and what's happened.
The reason we're in the situation we are in the West is
because we stopped being vigilant.
We started believing liars and we started letting enemies into
the gates and here we are. So what do you got to do?
Well, you got to reverse that trend.

(01:20:36):
And the number one thing that has to happen is people need to
wake up to the greater history of what's happening now.
Because I think, like, I know the problem with the average
Canadian is they're stuck in theCanadian political bubble.
So they only look at this as just local Canadian politics.
And some guys are better than others.
And yeah, there's a little bit of this here and there, but you
know, Mark Carney is doing good over here and maybe a little bit

(01:20:58):
bad over there. But hey, it's better than this.
And they don't see that. No, no, no, we are a little tiny
tadpole in a massive pond of thegeopolitical game of chess
that's going on right now. And we are a part of what's
happening and we are under attack just like Australia's
under attack, just like Europe is under attack, just like any
country trying to be free is under attack.

(01:21:20):
And if you don't think they're going to do to Canada what they
did to Iran, I don't know what to tell you.
It's the same. That's why we have to watch that
story and start talking to thosepeople.
If you don't think they're goingto do to Canada what they did to
Venezuela, start talking to someVenezuelans and see if they can
maybe shine some light on how it's almost identical the way it

(01:21:40):
rolled out in Venezuela as it isrolling out here in Canada and
in other places. And so when you see the when you
see the pattern, you have the playbook.
Now the playbook is known. And now that you have the
playbook, you can better anticipate the moves of the
enemy. And I think that that's our only
hope here is that more people understand the playbook, how it

(01:22:01):
works and start educating their children in the real values, the
family values, the cultural values, the positive religious
values, and teach them some goodreason and critical thinking
skills. This is why I'm also very much
involved in the martial art instruction of my community
because I believe it's a very indirect way of helping to

(01:22:22):
rebuild people and empower them so that they can get rid of
their fear, which means they canactually be observant of the
facts of reality. The people stuck in fear cannot
see reality. They can only see their fear it
it makes sense. So the way out of that is to
teach people courage and then they'll have the courage to
think freely and identify the facts of reality correctly.

(01:22:45):
And that's what we need. So that's why my shtick has
always been the truth warrior thing, because without courage,
you could have all the facts presented to you, but your mind
will reject the facts of realityand the truth if it makes you
feel afraid. So courage is the answer, you
know, And I think we've we've lost our courage in the West and
we need to get it back or we're not going to be in existence

(01:23:08):
much longer, sad to say. I agree.
Well, David, thank you so much for coming back.
It's always a powerful conversation with you and I
really appreciate the depth you bring to these topics.
So for the listeners who want tofollow you and your work and
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Bye. I have swung too far, I can't

(01:25:52):
focus. You say who you are and I've
noticed if I fall apart. Could you hold this?
You got me digging way too deep in the feelings and I'm over
here looking for all the reasons.

(01:26:12):
So if you're going to stick around and if you plan to hold
me down, be patient 'cause I'm finding down, then I might need
you. Yeah, Don't want to mess up.
I can't lose you. Love you.
I can't get enough. And I'm going.
To get my heart right by myself,I can act out.

(01:27:00):
So if you're going to stick around and if you plan to hold
me down the patient, 'cause I'm finding out that I might need
you. Yeah, I can't.
Get along. I

(01:27:40):
can't lose you. I can't lose you.
I can't get along and I'm going to keep my heart by my side.
I can't act out. I can't turn.
You can't be done. And thanks.
You might just be surprised. Yeah.

(01:28:00):
And run over here and look at the wall.
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