March 21, 2025 • 63 mins
What if your marriage was designed to be more than just a relationship, but a powerful spiritual force with divine purpose?
We dive deep into Tony Evans' transformative book "Kingdom Marriage," examining the first three foundational chapters that explore origin, order, and opposition. These concepts aren't just theoretical—they're the building blocks that determine whether your marriage merely exists or truly thrives with kingdom purpose.
The origin of marriage reveals God's blueprint: a union designed not primarily for happiness but for purpose. When two people bring their individual callings together, they create something exponentially more powerful than what they could accomplish alone. As scripture reminds us, one can chase a thousand, but two can chase ten thousand.
We candidly share our own journey through seven years of marriage, including the sometimes uncomfortable truth about submission. "You're not submitting to your husband in the flesh," we explain, "you're submitting to the God in your husband." This perspective transforms the entire conversation about order in marriage—it's not about control, but about acceptance and trust in the God working through your spouse.
The enemy knows that a unified couple is dangerous to his plans. That's why he targets marriages with division, resentment, and miscommunication. Understanding this opposition helps couples recognize when they're under spiritual attack versus just having normal disagreements. Prayer together becomes not just a nice habit but essential spiritual protection.
Whether you're newlyweds, marriage veterans, or even single and preparing for future relationships, these principles apply universally. The foundation laid in these chapters will transform how you view relationships of all kinds.
Join us as we continue this series, working through more chapters in future episodes. If you've been struggling to find purpose in your relationship or simply want to elevate your marriage to new spiritual heights, this conversation provides both the inspiration and practical guidance you've been seeking.
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Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thank you.
Relationships are a part of thebeauty blocks for healthy life
and spiritual growth.
God uses relationships to helpmove us farther into our destiny
and to help us grow in Christ.
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Healthy relationships are notbound for guilt.
A healthy relationship needscommitment and willingness to be
accommodating to each other'sneeds.
Marriage is more than aphysical union.
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It is also a spiritual andemotional union.
According to Ecclesiastes 4,verse 9, two are better than one
.
So, therefore, what God hasjoined together, let no one
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separate.
No one separates Kingdommarriage in its purpose, kingdom
marriage in its purpose.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Good evening.
Good evening good eveningeverybody, hello, hello,
everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Thank you, we are the Purpose Couple.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We are the Purpose.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Couple With Walk it Out Inspirations.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Thank you.
We are glad that you guys canjoin in.
Listen as you guys come on in,go ahead like share tag, tell
everybody that we are on thisevening.
We are excited because we arestarting our segment with books
and we are excited because weare going to start talking about
our first book.
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Yep, Tony Evans, KingdomMarriage.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We are definitely looking forward to a lot of good
stuff in there.
A lot of good stuff, people.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yes, definitely Listen.
It was so much it was, it wasso much within the book that we
decided we got to dissect it.
His words say you know, I getand get it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I understand that, so we slow walk in this thing and
we decided we got to dissect it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's worth saying all that good and getting
understanding.
So we slow walking this thing,so we started reading it and
today we're going to discuss thefirst three O's, that is,
within the book, which is originorder and opposition.
And man.
These are foundational,especially that origin, having
an understanding of what akingdom marriage is and the
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significance of it and therelations to it, right, right.
So I am super, super, superecstatic.
So let's go ahead and diveright on in and, as we always do
, we invite the Holy Spirit inand we're going to go ahead and
pray and let him have his way.
All right, amen, okay, dearHeavenly Father, we thank you.
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We thank you as this is the daythat you have made Lord.
We thank you that we've made itthrough this day.
Lord, god, we thank you forbringing revelation to us as we
read the literature that youwill have us to read, that we
may get a full understanding,lord, god, I thank you that the
same revelation interpretationthat you have given us.
I thank you that we will beable to relay the same
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information to your people, lordGod, that they may have full
understanding of what it is tohave a kingdom relationship and
a kingdom marriage.
We forever give you glory,honor and praise, and it's in
Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Listen, this is nighttime.
Good night, meek, meek.
It is the evening time.
It is around the time that ourchildren and everyone goes to
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bed, so you may hear a fewtelling us good night.
We still have our mommy duties.
That was my brother.
Thank God for him.
So let's go ahead and dive in.
I want to talk about the youwant to go in order.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
The origin first.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I mean, it only makes sense.
I wouldn't go backwards becauseI feel like then that's out of
order.
Isn't that one of the ones?
Order she's right, she's right.
Ones order she's right, she'sright, she's right, she's right.
That is yeah, we want to stayin order.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
All right, okay, so let's start with a question.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Okay, what you got.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So how many of you guys took time to dive into the
book, to check it out and see ifyou have any questions or
what's the revelation you mayhave gotten?
There are a lot of gems in thisbook.
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Especially the first part iswhat gets you really interested,
because there's so muchrevelation in the first chapter
that gets the conversationflowing for the coming chapters.
So we just want to know howmany people may have decided to
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get into this book, and if youhaven't, you need to, I mean
it's't you need to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, I mean it's not really a need to.
I mean we would have, I'll saythis I would have yeah.
We recommend this book.
We do recommend this book.
We definitely recommend thisbook.
If you are a married couple, wedefinitely recommend this book
for those that are married.
It does have a lot ofinformation in there,
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informative information thatwill provide wisdom on how to
have a successful marriage.
Yes, that is the book.
So, listen, it's not too lateif you haven't had the
opportunity because, listen,this is pillow talk.
Right, we're going to go alittle bit in and talk a little
bit about that as well.
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This is this is pillow time.
This is that opportunity, it'sthat moment, it's that chance
that you can actually you guyscan read the book together and
dissect it and talk about it andspeak about what God is showing
you and what he's giving youand vice versa, and this is that
moment where you can pour intoyour spouse and you guys are
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pouring into one another.
Having that pillow talk is soimportant, as we've discussed in
prior episodes aboutcommunication and how important
communication is.
Listen, we got so deep into thebook.
Listen, we're still at, we arejust finishing and going to wrap
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up chapter three.
But, which is opposition?
Because it was so much andthere was so much revelation
within that that, honestlyspeaking, and had us take a step
back and really look into ourmarriage.
Yes, we've been married forseven years.
However, there's always roomfor growth and there's always
room for changes, so weliterally had to take a step
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back.
Okay, we're going to do anotherseven years together.
We're going to do another 10years together.
Okay, what could we dodifferently to better our
marriage?
What things do we need to workon?
What areas do we need tostrengthen?
So that was very good.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That gave us an opportunity and chance to talk
about that as well.
All right, speaking of chance,if you haven't had a chance,
it's not too late.
We'll discuss this book inseveral segments, so it's good
we have time to dissect thisbook.
It cannot just be read.
It must be processed piece bypiece in order to get full
revelation and understanding, asit says in this word.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, in all, you're getting, yeah, get an
understanding, yes, so let's gointo origin.
I want to talk about origin,okay, so the origin of a kingdom
marriage, as our show is called.
Well, one of the segments ofour show is called Kingdom
Marriage and its Purpose, and wecall ourselves the Purpose,
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purpose, yeah, purpose.
We call ourselves the PurposeCouple.
So I want to talk about that,though.
Like what is the origin of amarriage, of a kingdom marriage?
Like what should be expected,so to speak, or what should you
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look forward to in a kingdommarriage, like what's the
foundation of it.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
The foundation of a kingdom marriage.
Like, what's the foundation ofit?
The foundation of a kingdommarriage, God Jesus is the
foundation.
We should try to emulate, ortry as close as we can to
emulate the teaching things thatwe read in Bible, the ways that
I guess.
Just see you don't want to putquotes on anything.
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You want to be decent people,you know.
You want to be truthful, youwant to be, um, respectful.
There's a lot of uh, there area lot of values that we should
try to uphold, and that's as acouple, family.
You know, you as a wife and amother, you as a father and a
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husband.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So did I answer that right by the way you started.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Don't tell me there's no wrong answers.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay, darling, there is no wrong answers.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh man thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Thank you for that.
So, a kingdom marriage ofcourse it does share passion and
also, as he stated in the book,it has a purpose.
And if we go back to Genesis,when he said, let us make man
into our own image, first hecreated man and then he created
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woman, and so with that, thepurpose of it was to fulfill
God's purpose.
So, as he gave themresponsibilities on earth, to
have dominion over the earth,meaning to manage the things
that he has already created, sowithin a marriage, there is a
purpose.
So it's your purpose and yourspouse's purpose that is coming
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together and becoming one.
So, as a king, I'm going tospeak from the kingdom wife
perspective.
As a kingdom wife, ourresponsibilities is we are the
nurturers, we are the ones whoassist with multiplying what has
already been placed inside ofour husbands.
How do we do that?
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We continue to speak life, wecontinue to pour into them, we
continue to pray, we continue togive advice where advice is
needed, or provide suggestions,not necessarily taking over or
trying to control anything.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Suggestions, not necessarily taking over or
trying to control anything.
That's interesting that yousaid that, because that ties
into the definition of people,definition of when you hear
about the man is head of thehouse or the head of the woman,
and it's not.
They say submission like submitto your husband.
They say submission like submitto your husbands Right, it's.
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The submission is like youwould ask what was I going to
say?
It was.
It's like it's like counsel.
It's like we would we counseleach other.
It's not submitting to.
It's like as a, as apartnership, we run things to
each other.
Now you may run it through me,but it's not me being the head
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of you.
There's another word I'mlooking for.
It'll come to me.
It'll come to me.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Hey, you're getting ahead of yourself here.
We're still in origin here.
Now you're trying to go intoorder, but that's okay, yeah,
yeah, right, right, order, order.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And she said I've been out of order like all week.
So, that's just me.
I'm out of order this week andit's only Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
It's okay, because God has a way of reeling us back
in and aligning us when we doum, tend to um get out of order,
but that is absolutely fine and, honestly, it's not out of
order really, because that isthe next thing that we are
talking about, which is order,and within that, you're
absolutely right that scripturedoes say.
However, I want to go back toorigin.
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To origin honestly speaking,before we can go into order, one
must understand the foundationof, you know, the, the marriage.
And, honestly speaking, whenI'm staying in my lane, when god
, when god says let, when hesaid, let us make man in our own
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image.
And he made man and woman.
He utilized that to be amirrored image of his
relationship with what he hascreated with us, his
relationship with the earth, howhe tended to the earth, how he
tends to us, how.
It's interesting, because hemade man and woman, but he was
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still that provider, he wasstill that protector, right Over
both man and woman.
So he exemplified thoseattributes of what he instilled
in a man and, so far as in, whathe instilled in a man is those
very things being protected,being the provider, you know
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being the one.
However, how does a man be ableto do that?
He must, first, becausesubmission goes both ways.
Submission goes the man mustsubmit unto God as the woman
submits unto him, and so, withthat, what that means is that,
ladies because I know hearingthat it's like, oh, it sounds
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like a curse word, it soundslike what that means.
I don't have a say so.
No, not at all.
What that means is submissionsimply means acceptance.
That means that I trust yourleadership, I trust what you're
saying.
Now, I will admit y'all,sometimes you question some
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things that you may not agree on.
Things, of course, that you maynot agree on, of course.
That's like uh, this is notsitting well with my spirit.
I.
I think this is a little offright here.
However, even in that, there isa way to bring suggestion right
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.
Uh, have a conversation, babe,I hear what you're saying.
However, have you everconsidered this?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's fair, because the man is probably trusting his
spirit.
If he's spiritual, he'sprobably being led by the spirit
and, although you may not seeit, there's the communication.
You being spiritual, you, youbeing spiritual, also understand
that.
You know, and I understand,that you have a Holy Spirit as
well.
So, you being led by the spirit, you're being led to question.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So there's nothing wrong with that.
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Now I'm playing devil's advocate.
Ok, devil's advocate, I have aquestion.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm playing devil's advocate, Okay devil's advocate.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I have a question, though, right, what about when
it's not being led by the spirit, but their flesh?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well then there's where oh, you're talking about
who, the husband or the wife?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
The husband.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
All right.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Because you said the husband is If you discern that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
If you think that that's what it is, I think
everything is deserving of aconversation.
If that's what you feel, if heshould, I mean, if he's mature
enough in the spirit, he shouldknow whether he's being led by
the spirit or the flesh it's.
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You'll just have to, you know,the woman will just have to
trust it.
You have to trust that he, youknow.
But bringing it to hisattention, we'll have, you know,
maybe within himself he'llquestion it and, you know, make
the adjustment If he, if hefeels that, you know, he'll go
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to God and be like you know, isthis my flesh or am I being led
by spirit?
And God, give him his answer.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So listen, y'all those who are tuning in this is
Walking Out Inspirations.
We are the Purpose Couple andright now we are dissecting and
we are discussing the book TonyEvans Kingdom Marriage, and
right now we're diving into thethree O's, the first three
chapters of the book, which isorigin, order and opposition.
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So right now we're in between,talking about origin and order
at the same time, because theydo go hand in hand.
Listen, if you haven't had theopportunity, go ahead like share
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We are grateful for those thatare watching live and we are
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iHeartRadio.
We are thankful and thank Godfor you as well as listeners.
Continue to tune in, as we haveso many more exciting things to
come.
So, with that being said, right,with you saying that and that's
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good and that's great, I wantto go because you know I like to
take stuff to the word.
You know I like to providereceipts.
Hello, mr Nita, welcome.
Glad you can join us, glad youcan tune in.
I want to dive in.
You know I like to take stuffto the word, I like receipts,
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right and I like to show theevidence based on what is spoken
in his words.
So Ephesians 5, 22 through 25,right the NIV version.
It reads wives, submityourselves to your own husbands
as you do to the Lord, for thehusband is the head of the wife,
as Christ is the head of thechurch, his body, of which he is
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the Savior.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Okay, that's part of what it's talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Submitting yourself yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
And then it says now, as the church submits to Christ
, so also wives should submit totheir husbands and everything.
Husbands love your wives, justas Christ loved the church and
gave himself up for her.
So I want to go into that alittle bit, because that portion
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it said wives, submityourselves to your own husbands.
However, the flip side to thatwas the flip side to that was
the fact that the husbands hadto be submissive to the Lord.
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I want to continue talkingabout the submission because I
feel it is so important within amarriage and understanding,
even as a kingdom wife, thesubmission, to be honest with
you, submission starts in yoursingleness, for both husbands
and wives.
Submission starts in yoursingleness because when you have
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positioned yourself to besubmissive to God first, when
you do get married, thatsubmission wives, women.
It's not a big deal, it's not astruggle, it's not a fight,
it's not a I'm not going to dothis or I'm not going to do that
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or I refuse, because you'vealready aligned yourself.
Because, honestly speaking,thank you, holy Spirit.
Honestly speaking, when you'resubmitting to your husband,
you're not truly submitting toyour husband, you're submitting
to the God in your husband.
I'm going to say that one moretime.
When you're submitting, you'renot submitting to your husband
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in the flesh, you're submittingto the God in your husband.
So that means I trust the Godin you and because in my
singleness I've already beensubmissive to God and I see God
in you, it's easy for me tosubmit to you.
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I see God in you, it's easy forme to submit to you.
And for husbands, as youcontinue to submit unto God, as
you continue to submit unto Godyou have when you do get married
, it's easy for you to continuewith that Right.
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So y'all see how that chainworks Husbands, wives.
It works on both ends.
The scripture says a cord ofthree strands is not quickly
torn apart, not quickly tornapart.
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A lot of times in marriageswhat happens is you'll have the
husband, you'll have the wife,and what happens is they remove
God out of the center of theirmarriage, forgetting the purpose
of their marriage.
And what happens is I love.
When God had given me this, hesaid what happens is when you
move me out of the center, allyou get is an entanglement,
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which is a twist, which is easyto unravel.
So you got the wife on a wholenother field and the husband on
a whole nother field.
So now, what was one now hasbeen divided, and y'all know a
house divided cannot stand.
That's right.
Why?
Because God was taken out ofthe center of their marriage.
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God is what keeps that marriagehold sealed, where that
three-stranded cord is not easyto be broken and it's not easy
to be torn apart.
Because he said what I puttogether, no man can part that's
right so, with that being said,going back to that submission,
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as you wives are submitted toGod and submitted to the God in
your husband, and as yourhusband is submitted to God, god
continues.
Y'all come together right asGod continues to be the center
of your marriage.
God is just not at theforefront.
God said I need to be in thecenter so that I can keep you
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guys together and you guys canstay on one accord.
It's no longer two but it's one.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yes, yep, one must be happy, single, like you said.
Happy, and that's the otherthing.
You don't look for happiness inmarriage.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
You definitely don't.
That that's the other thingthat honestly tears marriages
apart, because you go in like,oh you make me so happy, oh, I'm
happy, and then, the minutethat they don't do something
right or something, don't feelI'm not happy anymore.
Okay, well, what happened tothe happiness?
Right, honestly speaking,happiness comes naturally with
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purpose, right?
Yep, once happiness begins inyour singleness, you should
already be happy.
You know what I say y'all?
I say my husband has made mehappier.
I was already happy.
However, he added to myhappiness.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
That's right.
You should not look for anyoneto make you happy.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Right Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
The joy of the Lord is your strength.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Right, exactly, anybody make you happy.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It's in the Lord is your strength.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Right, exactly, it doesn't make anybody make you
happy.
It's in the Lord that bringsyou happiness, that brings you
joy, and when you understandyour purpose as an individual.
When God brought my husband andI together, it was with a
purpose and it's interestingbecause both of our purposes
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aligned with one another andwhere we wanted to go in the
future Right.
So, although I was the one thatfought and was against and
tried to fight against it,didn't want it, didn't want it.
All of the above, which bringsme to the next scripture Talking
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about where it said that thehusbands love your wives as
Christ loves the church.
I want to go to the nextscripture, jeremiah 31 and 3.
That says the Lord appears tous in the past saying I have
loved you with an everlastinglove.
I have drawn you with unfailingkindness.
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Why did I bring that scriptureup?
I brought that scripture upbecause, although I was fighting
against him, his love drew me,him, his love drew me.
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Why it drew me?
Because I saw the God in himand his love.
I felt like God was loving methrough him.
I had never felt the love likethat before.
It was scary y'all.
It really was.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And confirmation in my singleness.
That's why I learned to love,though, because the Lord was
showing me love in my singleness, and that's why I learned.
That's why I learned to love.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
And honestly, as the scripture says, love covers the
multitude of sin.
As the scripture says, lovecovers the multitude of sin.
It was with his love that heloved the bitterness and the
anger and the rage and all ofthose things out of me.
It was cute.
I'm glad that you think so.
Now I can say that In thebeginning it was not, but, as
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that scripture stated, because,remember, the husband is
submitted to god.
So in that submission, thehusband has learned to love,
with an everlasting love thatdraws you, that draws the woman,
with unfailing kindness and itsays everlasting there, but a
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synonym would be uh,unconditional unconditional,
with no, no conditions.
I learned incentives no, nopretense.
I'm not, I'm not looking forwhen we can thank you holy
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spirit, with no conditions.
I will love you if right, right.
It wasn't under that and and,and I can confirm that he loved
me when I did not show lovetowards him.
Not that I didn't love him.
Honestly, I was scared of love.
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After a while.
However, it was hiscontinuation and the consistency
in his everlasting,unconditional love towards me
that opened my eyes, and lightbulb went off Like wait a minute
.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
When you love that way, it comes easy.
It comes easy Because you can'tbe offended at that point.
If you're easily offended, thenyeah.
But if it's my desire to loveunconditionally, you can be the
way you want to be Doesn't meanthat has to change me, and you
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know that's my, that's my that'smy language.
Love is my language anyway.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Blessings, taisha.
Thank you for joining in thisY'all.
This is getting really reallygood.
I hope you guys are gettingsomething out of this.
Listen those that have tuned in.
We definitely want to welcomeyou to Kingdom Marriage and its
Purpose, as we are the PurposeCouple.
Listen y'all.
Go ahead and continue.
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Those that are watching livecontinue to tag some people in.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Currently we are in this book right here.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yes, tony Evans' Kingdom Marriage.
We are dealing with the firstthree chapters that deal with
origin, order and opposition.
So at this moment we are goingto take a short break, we're
going to take a commercial breakand we will be right back with
you.
Y'all enjoy the music and kindof groove and kind of think
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about some of the stuff thatwe've already discussed.
All right, we'll be right backwith you.
Thank you all.
Right, we are back.
We are back.
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Listen, y'all just uh, saw thecommercial about writing,
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speaking of writing, and we'redealing with books and we're
doing this pillow talk thingwhere we're reading books
together and dissecting themtogether and having discussions.
Listen, there is an opportunitythose that are aspiring authors
that have books out there.
We do have another segmentSpeaking to the Kingdom in you,
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with me being the host of thatsegment.
I am looking to interview someaspiring authors.
If you are an aspiring authorand would like to be interviewed
and would like or anopportunity for us to kind of
dissect and talk about your bookand bring some publicity to
your book.
Listen, you can reach out to usat podcast at empower me LLCcom
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You can send us an email atpodcast at empower me LLCcom If
you're interested.
I want to go back into order,because one of the things that I
like that Tony Evans did whenhe was talking about order the
example that he lines no lanedividers.
None of the above, can youimagine?
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how that drive would be.
I think you can.
I think you can.
Why are you trying to saysomething, by the way.
I don't know.
Sometimes I wonder do you seethe lines or do you not?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
So See, that's what you get for getting people's
safety.
But I got you, I got what youmean.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I found it very interesting because we know
without order, there is nothingbut chaos.
And, as his word says, god isnot the author of confusion,
neither is he about chaos.
He is a God of decency andorder.
So with that, according tobiblical principle, the
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structure of a kingdom householdis God, the husband, wife,
children.
However, although it seems thatway, it seems like hierarchy
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God husband, wife is down here.
Okay, it is here Because youguys are one, that's right.
It's not this, it's this,that's right.
Why do you think God sat upthere and said you know what?
I'm going to take it from theside.
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So men don't get the big headand think, oh, why he ain't take
it from the leg, why he ain'tpull it from the foot, which is
up underneath?
He pulled it from the sidebecause he wanted to give a
reminder.
Hey, men, yes, I know I saidwhy submit that?
Your wife is going to submit itto you, but don't get it
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twisted.
Y'all are side by side.
You're not above her and she'snot above you.
Y'all are equal.
So I have a question does oneget to that point where either
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party feels like, oh, you'retrying to be over me or, oh,
you're trying to control?
How do we balance?
How does it, but how do webring a balance?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I think purpose is what balances that.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
But what if I, what if they don't?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
if they don't know what their purpose?
What if they don't know thepurpose?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
What if we don't know the purpose?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Well, you should know your own purpose first, isn't
that right?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I would hope so.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, if you knew your purpose and I knew my
purpose, we should.
I guess if you're in Christ,you will figure out where you
guys will be able to help eachother.
I know you have another answer,so just go ahead.
You asked me because you havean answer.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
No, this is good because, okay, you said you need
to know your purposeindividually.
Okay, what if I know my purposeindividually?
You know your purposeindividually.
But then we get married and I'mlike, well, I got my purpose
and you got yours and you workon your purpose individually.
But then we get married and I'mlike, well, I got my purpose
and you got yours, and you workon your purpose while I go over
here and work on mine.
How do we bring the twopurposes together?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
switch lanes.
Who's doing the?
Switch, you know you bothswitching lanes.
I'm listening, I'm listening.
I guess I know you got ananswer, so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
How can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, because honestly, I know the order is
the the topic of this, whatwe're talking about now, so it
has something to do with order.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
It does Very much.
So it is a matter of thehusband understanding the wife's
purpose and the wifeunderstanding the husband's
purpose, and then finding thecommon purpose between the two.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
That's what I meant to say.
No, I demonstrated it like that.
But no, yeah, the husbandfinding, as I say, you have to
know your purpose, and maybebecause I'm trying to be outside
of you and I because we thatwas one of the things we talked
about in our singleness.
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Yeah, but that the people needto know that, ok, well, that's
one of the things we talk aboutin our singleness was our
purpose, and that's what kind ofdrawn us not knowing that we
were going to be married.
We were just talking aboutpurpose as individuals.
(38:59):
You know it, the the uhdiscussion of us possibly, you
know, getting together came upand here we are seven years
later.
But yeah, we, we discussedpurpose individually in our
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singleness.
Yeah, yeah, you remember thosenights.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Okay, Now don't get it twisted y'all.
No, it wasn't it was.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
It was, it was G, it was G, ain't even no P G.
It was G.
It was definitely G, right at G.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
But it was interesting.
Those conversations lasted tillfour in the morning.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And um, they were very.
We you know we were.
How would you say, when I wasboosting you up, you boosted me
up.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, we yeah, yeah, that's that's what we did.
We poured into one another asfriends, um, and it became a
continuation.
One of the things that's veryimportant how do you keep God in
the center of the marriage?
One of the things that's veryimportant is that you have to,
basically everything that isdone must be done together
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Finances, making the sounddecisions, those that have
children that are involved.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Just, a couple of questions we want to answer.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Yeah, making sound decisions on everything within
you guys, even down to how todiscipline the children.
Yes, right, because let me tellyou something about these
children, especially thisgeneration they will play on
their parents, right, if theyknow they can get away with it.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Oh, absolutely.
I know, I played on mine Evenback then.
Yeah, so it's it's.
I don't know if it's worse now,but it's the same then.
Yeah, so it's it's.
I don't know if it's worse now,but it's the same.
You know, this generation does,in a different way, do the same
thing.
Yeah, nothing to wonder the sun.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Okay, so I want to dive into some questions.
Thank you, hubby, forrecognizing these questions.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Edwards had asked this question about um.
Did the holy spirit speak to mewhen wifey didn't receive all
your love at first?
Yes, my Holy Spirit did speakto me and that's why I continued
.
It was.
It wasn't about me in thesituation where, where she and I
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were getting to know each other, it wasn't about me, it was
about her.
So my Holy Spirit was making meconcentrate on that.
He was telling me not to that.
What she was doing wasn'tpersonal.
The way she was responding tome wasn't personal because, like
I said, we had some great phoneconversations but when she
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would lash out at some things,it was uh, she showed.
She was actually showing mewhere she was hurting so those
you know and and at those times,that's when you know your
spirit is telling you that'swhat it's about.
You don't take that personal,you continue to love her is
telling you that's what it'sabout.
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You don't take that personal,you continue to love her, even
even though she's doing that.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
It's not personal, so Look at you getting on deep on
me and stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Okay, good question.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Y'all listen.
This is the first of me hearingthis.
I've never heard him explain itthat way.
I was like wait a minute.
Oh, he threw something in there.
Oh, Okay, the Holy Spirit wasshowing him where I was hurt.
I think I'm going to take thatand run with it.
Y'all, I'm going to use thatfor quite some time, but no,
that's really really good andI'll be honest with y'all, it's
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a continuation.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Don't do that, danita .
Don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I'll be honest, but I thank you.
I'll be honest with y'all.
It is a continuation and, inall honesty, him loving me, the
way that he loved me, taught mehow to love with no conditions.
I learned from him how to lovewith no conditions because it
was so consistent and I seen howit was like God's word came to
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light pertaining love.
What does love look like?
What is kingdom love?
What is unconditional love?
What does that mean?
What does that look like?
And I actually got to see itright before my eyes through him
.
So it taught me a lot of thingsabout love.
It even changed how I loved mychildren and the way I love my
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children, because the very samething that he mentioned, god
showed him where I was hurtingand I was showing him where I
was hurting and God justconfirmed that same exact thing
was happening to me with mychildren.
God began to show me how tolove my children where they were
and not love them according tomy own love language.
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That's another book that's realgood the Five Love Languages.
That's a really, really good,insightful book, because
everybody has a different lovelanguage.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
And when you understand their love language
and also understand theirpurpose, you're able to meet
them where they are Right, evenwhen you have to provide them
tough love.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Okay, they are right, even when you have to provide
them tough love.
Okay, early on, god showed methose children and their
basically their futures, and um,from that you begin to discern
what their purpose is and, likemarianne, you can see the love
that child has, theunconditional love that child
has, the unconditional love thatchild has, the healing power
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that child has.
You know, it showed me thatactually she was too strong to
have one love interest in herlife.
I was like you ain't going tohandle a boyfriend, you ain't
going to handle a husband, justbecause you're going to be busy
spreading that love around.
You know, and and I don't meanthat in the wrong way, I what I
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mean is that she was just.
You know, she loves animals,she loves everything, she loves
everything god because she lovesgod yes yeah, and she'll tell
you in a minute.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
I mean, when she was like three years old, she'll say
my boyfriend's name is Jesus.
Right, that's right, that'sright.
And you know, and even with ourboys, yeah, now, once again,
purpose there's.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I've seen purpose in the boys.
So you got to know how to like,she said.
You got to know how to meetthem where they are and you know
it's difficult when you'retrying to parent because you
know you see all the crazy stuffthey do.
But you have to rememberthey're young children.
They have to be, you know, led,guided, molded and shown how to
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you know, take direction fromtheir spirits once they realize
that there is a Holy Spiritwithin them as well.
Because these children, theirchurch children, they've been in
the church, so whether or not.
They want to say that they'relistening.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
It's permeating, it's permeating them and with you
stating that as as a marriedcouple, as a kingdom married
couple, you don't even realizehow much of an example you are
to your children and, in allhonesty, you don't realize how
much your children watch andmock what you do.
Yeah, and it was interestingbecause I was just sharing with
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my husband, I was telling him, Isaid listen, because don't get
me wrong we get so busy, tied upand whatever have you,
sometimes we don't make the bedand sometimes a bed's not made
and everything like that.
This is listen, we real on thisshow.
Okay, we're transparent.
We don't try to make our livesseem like it's all peachy,
creamy and we do everythingcorrect?
No, not at all.
There are times where we don'tmake our bed.
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We just get up out of bed, wego shower, get ready and that's
it.
We go and sometimes our roomcould get a little little junky
because we put stuff out oforder.
They go to out of order againto talk about that order and
putting stuff out of place andstuff like that.
And I told my husband, I saidyou know what we do, all this
fussing at our children aboutkeep stuff off the floor.
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Make sure you, when you get outthe bed, you make your bed soon
as you get out the bed.
And I told him, I said butsweetie, I said babe, I said
just a suggestion.
We're telling them to do thosethings but we're not
implementing what we're tellingthem.
As God said, don't just be ahero of the word, but the doer
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of the word.
We can't just speak to themwhat they need to do if we're
not applying what we're speaking.
My God, somebody catch that.
And that's the same with God'sword.
That's the same within yourmarriage.
That's the same with anyrelationship.
Anytime you're pouring into anindividual, like a lot of times
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when the lord had me pour intothe, into my husband.
It's something that I havealready experienced or gone
through, or god has given meinsight on, and we'll have a
discussion about it, right, andit gets so good and, and can I
tell you, he's more receptive ofit because it's like what she's
saying, she is absolutely rightand I've seen her walk it out.
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She's not just giving meinstruction, she's giving me
instructions that she's alreadyfollowed.
So at that point, yes, he'sstill the head.
Yes, he's still the head, yes,he's still the, the leader.
However, that's at that moment,it's that humbling.
Thank you, holy spirit.
He humbles himself to get thatmissing piece of wisdom, or
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missing piece that he could notfigure out.
Hold on right, my rib done,stepped in, my, my, my help me
done, stepped in and gave me awhole another perspective and
insight on this.
And you know what, yeah, thatsounds real good.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Let's do it that way right, and that's the whole
submission thing.
You know, that's the wholesubmission.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Because, honestly, if we go back to, if we go up in
Ephesians Ephesians 5, 21,.
It says submit to one anotherout of reverence for Christ,
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Right?
So wait a minute.
That just threw a whole anotherperspective on that.
So it's not just wives, it'snot just you submitted to your
husband.
Your husband submits to Godfirst, just as you would submit
to God first and then submit tothe God in your husband.
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However, you guys aresubmitting to one another
because submission simply meansacceptance.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
You both have Christ in you, yes, so that should make
it a lot easier, you know, forthat to occur, because I know
that she's coming from a placeof Christ and she knows I am as
well.
So it's not like there shouldbe no tug of war, you know, it's
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definitely.
I mean I guess now every nowand then, but we don't butt
heads for long because you knowone of us will come to our
senses.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah, we do.
Yeah, we have a whole lot ofthat.
We definitely have a whole lotof that and, honestly, I don't
care how upset I might get athim or how upset he might get at
me.
Honestly, we don't stay angryor upset at each other very long
.
We don't stay quiet or muteourselves from each other very
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long, because it disturbs.
If I'm doing it to him, it'lldisturb and disrupt my spirit
and I'm uneasy and although Istill got an attitude because I
don't want to go to talk to himbecause he's wrong and he need
to come talk to me, first we goseparate, we talk to god, and
then we come back.
However, it always ends up wecome back at the same time, or
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it'll be right when it's time toget ready for bed, or anything
like that.
He might mush me like this, andI'll be like I'm still mad at
you.
And he'll be like, okay, well,let's talk about it.
And I'll be like, oh, now youwant to talk, that's just.
You know, that's me being thewoman in me.
You know, give him a hard timea little bit.
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He's used to it.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, but you realize that that's what it is.
Though that's what it's about.
He's going to give me a hardtime.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
I know that you know so, so, but it's great.
Husbands know your wife yeahdefinitely, definitely know
their personality, know how theyare and you know that changes
Know this.
This is what I love about myhusband.
My husband allows me to be meIn ministry, outside of the home
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.
He shares me with so manypeople and he allows me to be me
.
And what I love about him is hedoes not stunt my growth.
If anything, he's like wait,hold up, hold up, babe, where
you going?
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Wait, wait, I'm right, listen,we growing together.
He does not stop what God isdeveloping within me and vice
versa.
I don't do that with him, andalso, we also understand that
each other's timing is different.
So a lot of times, god may giveme things for him, friend.
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So a lot of times, god may giveme things for him.
However, it's like far sightand he hasn't gotten there yet.
So for him, it seems strange.
For him, he doesn't see it, andI cannot get frustrated or get
upset because he's not seeing ithow I'm seeing it.
However, I must, at that time,have an understanding.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
But I tell you, you just bringing it up and bringing
it to my attention, although Ican't see it now, it's here as I
go forward, how you feel ishere.
So, along my journey, if I seeanywhere that starts to remind
me that you know, she told youthat If I see that it's going
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that way, then I know to reversegears, you know, and then we'll
talk about that too.
Like you know, I know I wasbeing hardheaded when you told
me such and such and such, butI'm just letting you know that.
You know, now it's starting tocome to pass those things that
you've mentioned, and I'mletting you know that I'm, you
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know I'm going in a differentdirection.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
And vice versa.
Honestly, there's things thatthe Lord has shown me, shown him
pertaining me, that he's toldme that I'm like okay, yeah,
Okay, and it should be nooffense in that you, and there
should be no offense in that.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
There should be no offense in that.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
And I receive it and I remember, I know it's coming
from a good place.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I assume my wife don't want nothing bad for me
and I definitely don't wantanything bad for her.
I mean same thing with ourchildren.
You try to get them to avoidthe pitfalls that you see coming
, especially the ones thatyou've the holes that you fell
in, and you try to let them knowand you just hope that same
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thing it's here, even though, asthey're going forward, when
they see, you know they'll see.
Yeah, dad on mine told me aboutthis and maybe I need to
rethink this.
And that's what you pray, thatyour children get that.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
So, with you saying that and you said falling in the
pitfalls, I'm glad that yousaid because I want to go into
the opposition portion of it.
We kind of dived into order, letme say it in order.
We kind of dived into order,let me say it in order.
We kind of dived into origin,we dived into order.
I want to close out with theopposition because there was
something and I'm going to readit straight out of the book that
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Tony Evans said.
That was so good and it was soimportant and I wanted to read
this piece.
It says Satan's goal for youand your spouse is to rob you of
your own spiritual championshipbid and drag you down to his
defeatist level.
What I thought about in thatscripture where it states Satan
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is committed to seeing to itthat you never reach your
potential.
That was so good because, again, a house divided cannot stand.
And the scripture said one canchase a thousand Right, and then
it said two can do what?
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Chase 10,000.
Right, Just was I right.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
One can chase a thousand.
Was I right, you was right.
Two can chase 10, was.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
I right, you was right Two can chase a thousand.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
So with that, good evening Josh, Good evening Thank
you for joining.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Thank you for joining in.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
So with that, let's go back to Adam and Eve.
He was so conniving because Godgave Adam the instructions and,
mind you, adam is the head,he's the protector, he's the
provider, and so with that, hewent to Eve.
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Eve, you know that ain't true.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (57:11):
Now you know you can have so much more.
Man.
Ain't nothing about to happento you?
God created you.
You really think he going tokill you?
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Right See, now, that's twofold order and
opposition.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Right, that was out of order, right.
Why you ain't go to the head?
Yeah.
Why you ain't go to the head?
Yeah.
Why you ain't go to the oneI'll show you what Satan?
Speaker 2 (57:38):
is he out of order?
Speaker 3 (57:39):
Right, he's out of order, that part, right.
So with that now Eve is likebecause, remember, we, the
nurturers, we pour into ourhusbands and our husbands do
take our word at value.
They do listen.
Sometimes they can be stubborn,they can be hardheaded
sometimes.
However, it keeps it in themind.
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So she goes and like Adam,ain't nothing going to happen to
this head?
Take a bite, notice nothinghappened until Adam bit the
fruit.
When Eve bit the fruit, nothinghappened.
But when Adam bit the fruit,that's when something happened.
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Why?
Because let's go back to order,right, right.
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So, with that being said, aslong as the enemy can keep
division, a lot of times whenyou feel like you're angry at
your spouse, you really need totake a step back and really look
and say am I angry at my it, myspouse, or is it the situation?
Am I upset because the financesaren't where they're supposed
to be?
Am I upset because the childrenare being hardheaded, stubborn
and not listening?
Am I upset because it seemslike we can't see eye to eye and
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make final decisions?
Can I tell y'all how to trumpthat out and how to cancel that?
This is why it's so importantas a kingdom marriage, even as a
kingdom family, to pray dailytogether.
Pray over your financestogether, discuss your finances
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together, discuss your financestogether, discuss your children
together.
You have to have those.
Prayer is so important andthat's what also keeps the fire
and keeps God at the center ofyour marriage, amen.
So I just want to close withthis.
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As we discuss the first threechapters origin I can't wait for
the next Origin, order andopposition.
I want to encourage you, men,women, stay in your lane and
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bring the lanes together.
Y'all know those lanes, matterof fact.
Remember when you was like theygo like this, the Holy Spirit
just gave me a visual.
No, what do they do?
Merge Right.
You know those lanes thatstarted out as two, but then it
gives you a sign that this laneis going to merge into.
Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Lord, learn to drive.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Learn to drive.
Yes, taisha, a family thatprays together stays together.
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Listen, y'all, enjoy the restof y'all evening.
We are the purpose couple withwalk it out inspiration out
inspiration.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Y'all take care, y'all have a good.
My saints down in PA, walk itout.
Ny.
Walk it out PA, walk it outNorth Carolina, walk it out.
Atm Walk it out Maryland, walkit out.
Everybody walking in.
(01:03:00):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Walk it out If you were so drunk.
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Time to put some action to the birds that you're
talking.
Walk it out.
Thank you.
Relationships are a part of thebeauty blocks for healthy life
and spiritual growth.
God uses relationships to helpmove us farther into our destiny
and to help us grow in Christ.
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Healthy relationships are notbound for guilt.
A healthy relationship needscommitment and willingness to be
accommodating to each other'sneeds.
Marriage is more than aphysical union.
(01:44):
It is also a spiritual andemotional union.
According to Ecclesiastes 4,verse 9, two are better than one
.
So, therefore, what God hasjoined together, let no one
(02:08):
separate.
No one separates Kingdommarriage in its purpose, kingdom
marriage in its purpose.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Good evening.
Good evening good eveningeverybody, hello, hello,
everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Thank you, we are the Purpose Couple.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We are the Purpose.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Couple With Walk it Out Inspirations.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Thank you.
We are glad that you guys canjoin in.
Listen as you guys come on in,go ahead like share tag, tell
everybody that we are on thisevening.
We are excited because we arestarting our segment with books
and we are excited because weare going to start talking about
our first book.
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Yep, Tony Evans, KingdomMarriage.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We are definitely looking forward to a lot of good
stuff in there.
A lot of good stuff, people.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yes, definitely Listen.
It was so much it was, it wasso much within the book that we
decided we got to dissect it.
His words say you know, I getand get it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I understand that, so we slow walk in this thing and
we decided we got to dissect it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's worth saying all that good and getting
understanding.
So we slow walking this thing,so we started reading it and
today we're going to discuss thefirst three O's, that is,
within the book, which is originorder and opposition.
And man.
These are foundational,especially that origin, having
an understanding of what akingdom marriage is and the
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significance of it and therelations to it, right, right.
So I am super, super, superecstatic.
So let's go ahead and diveright on in and, as we always do
, we invite the Holy Spirit inand we're going to go ahead and
pray and let him have his way.
All right, amen, okay, dearHeavenly Father, we thank you.
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We thank you as this is the daythat you have made Lord.
We thank you that we've made itthrough this day.
Lord, god, we thank you forbringing revelation to us as we
read the literature that youwill have us to read, that we
may get a full understanding,lord, god, I thank you that the
same revelation interpretationthat you have given us.
I thank you that we will beable to relay the same
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information to your people, lordGod, that they may have full
understanding of what it is tohave a kingdom relationship and
a kingdom marriage.
We forever give you glory,honor and praise, and it's in
Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Listen, this is nighttime.
Good night, meek, meek.
It is the evening time.
It is around the time that ourchildren and everyone goes to
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bed, so you may hear a fewtelling us good night.
We still have our mommy duties.
That was my brother.
Thank God for him.
So let's go ahead and dive in.
I want to talk about the youwant to go in order.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
The origin first.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I mean, it only makes sense.
I wouldn't go backwards becauseI feel like then that's out of
order.
Isn't that one of the ones?
Order she's right, she's right.
Ones order she's right, she'sright, she's right, she's right.
That is yeah, we want to stayin order.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
All right, okay, so let's start with a question.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Okay, what you got.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So how many of you guys took time to dive into the
book, to check it out and see ifyou have any questions or
what's the revelation you mayhave gotten?
There are a lot of gems in thisbook.
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Especially the first part iswhat gets you really interested,
because there's so muchrevelation in the first chapter
that gets the conversationflowing for the coming chapters.
So we just want to know howmany people may have decided to
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get into this book, and if youhaven't, you need to, I mean
it's't you need to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, I mean it's not really a need to.
I mean we would have, I'll saythis I would have yeah.
We recommend this book.
We do recommend this book.
We definitely recommend thisbook.
If you are a married couple, wedefinitely recommend this book
for those that are married.
It does have a lot ofinformation in there,
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informative information thatwill provide wisdom on how to
have a successful marriage.
Yes, that is the book.
So, listen, it's not too lateif you haven't had the
opportunity because, listen,this is pillow talk.
Right, we're going to go alittle bit in and talk a little
bit about that as well.
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This is this is pillow time.
This is that opportunity, it'sthat moment, it's that chance
that you can actually you guyscan read the book together and
dissect it and talk about it andspeak about what God is showing
you and what he's giving youand vice versa, and this is that
moment where you can pour intoyour spouse and you guys are
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pouring into one another.
Having that pillow talk is soimportant, as we've discussed in
prior episodes aboutcommunication and how important
communication is.
Listen, we got so deep into thebook.
Listen, we're still at, we arejust finishing and going to wrap
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up chapter three.
But, which is opposition?
Because it was so much andthere was so much revelation
within that that, honestlyspeaking, and had us take a step
back and really look into ourmarriage.
Yes, we've been married forseven years.
However, there's always roomfor growth and there's always
room for changes, so weliterally had to take a step
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back.
Okay, we're going to do anotherseven years together.
We're going to do another 10years together.
Okay, what could we dodifferently to better our
marriage?
What things do we need to workon?
What areas do we need tostrengthen?
So that was very good.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That gave us an opportunity and chance to talk
about that as well.
All right, speaking of chance,if you haven't had a chance,
it's not too late.
We'll discuss this book inseveral segments, so it's good
we have time to dissect thisbook.
It cannot just be read.
It must be processed piece bypiece in order to get full
revelation and understanding, asit says in this word.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, in all, you're getting, yeah, get an
understanding, yes, so let's gointo origin.
I want to talk about origin,okay, so the origin of a kingdom
marriage, as our show is called.
Well, one of the segments ofour show is called Kingdom
Marriage and its Purpose, and wecall ourselves the Purpose,
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purpose, yeah, purpose.
We call ourselves the PurposeCouple.
So I want to talk about that,though.
Like what is the origin of amarriage, of a kingdom marriage?
Like what should be expected,so to speak, or what should you
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look forward to in a kingdommarriage, like what's the
foundation of it.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
The foundation of a kingdom marriage.
Like, what's the foundation ofit?
The foundation of a kingdommarriage, God Jesus is the
foundation.
We should try to emulate, ortry as close as we can to
emulate the teaching things thatwe read in Bible, the ways that
I guess.
Just see you don't want to putquotes on anything.
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You want to be decent people,you know.
You want to be truthful, youwant to be, um, respectful.
There's a lot of uh, there area lot of values that we should
try to uphold, and that's as acouple, family.
You know, you as a wife and amother, you as a father and a
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husband.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So did I answer that right by the way you started.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Don't tell me there's no wrong answers.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Okay, darling, there is no wrong answers.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh man thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Thank you for that.
So, a kingdom marriage ofcourse it does share passion and
also, as he stated in the book,it has a purpose.
And if we go back to Genesis,when he said, let us make man
into our own image, first hecreated man and then he created
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woman, and so with that, thepurpose of it was to fulfill
God's purpose.
So, as he gave themresponsibilities on earth, to
have dominion over the earth,meaning to manage the things
that he has already created, sowithin a marriage, there is a
purpose.
So it's your purpose and yourspouse's purpose that is coming
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together and becoming one.
So, as a king, I'm going tospeak from the kingdom wife
perspective.
As a kingdom wife, ourresponsibilities is we are the
nurturers, we are the ones whoassist with multiplying what has
already been placed inside ofour husbands.
How do we do that?
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We continue to speak life, wecontinue to pour into them, we
continue to pray, we continue togive advice where advice is
needed, or provide suggestions,not necessarily taking over or
trying to control anything.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Suggestions, not necessarily taking over or
trying to control anything.
That's interesting that yousaid that, because that ties
into the definition of people,definition of when you hear
about the man is head of thehouse or the head of the woman,
and it's not.
They say submission like submitto your husband.
They say submission like submitto your husbands Right, it's.
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The submission is like youwould ask what was I going to
say?
It was.
It's like it's like counsel.
It's like we would we counseleach other.
It's not submitting to.
It's like as a, as apartnership, we run things to
each other.
Now you may run it through me,but it's not me being the head
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of you.
There's another word I'mlooking for.
It'll come to me.
It'll come to me.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Hey, you're getting ahead of yourself here.
We're still in origin here.
Now you're trying to go intoorder, but that's okay, yeah,
yeah, right, right, order, order.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
And she said I've been out of order like all week.
So, that's just me.
I'm out of order this week andit's only Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
It's okay, because God has a way of reeling us back
in and aligning us when we doum, tend to um get out of order,
but that is absolutely fine and, honestly, it's not out of
order really, because that isthe next thing that we are
talking about, which is order,and within that, you're
absolutely right that scripturedoes say.
However, I want to go back toorigin.
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To origin honestly speaking,before we can go into order, one
must understand the foundationof, you know, the, the marriage.
And, honestly speaking, whenI'm staying in my lane, when god
, when god says let, when hesaid, let us make man in our own
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image.
And he made man and woman.
He utilized that to be amirrored image of his
relationship with what he hascreated with us, his
relationship with the earth, howhe tended to the earth, how he
tends to us, how.
It's interesting, because hemade man and woman, but he was
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still that provider, he wasstill that protector, right Over
both man and woman.
So he exemplified thoseattributes of what he instilled
in a man and, so far as in, whathe instilled in a man is those
very things being protected,being the provider, you know
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being the one.
However, how does a man be ableto do that?
He must, first, becausesubmission goes both ways.
Submission goes the man mustsubmit unto God as the woman
submits unto him, and so, withthat, what that means is that,
ladies because I know hearingthat it's like, oh, it sounds
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like a curse word, it soundslike what that means.
I don't have a say so.
No, not at all.
What that means is submissionsimply means acceptance.
That means that I trust yourleadership, I trust what you're
saying.
Now, I will admit y'all,sometimes you question some
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things that you may not agree on.
Things, of course, that you maynot agree on, of course.
That's like uh, this is notsitting well with my spirit.
I.
I think this is a little offright here.
However, even in that, there isa way to bring suggestion right
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.
Uh, have a conversation, babe,I hear what you're saying.
However, have you everconsidered this?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's fair, because the man is probably trusting his
spirit.
If he's spiritual, he'sprobably being led by the spirit
and, although you may not seeit, there's the communication.
You being spiritual, you, youbeing spiritual, also understand
that.
You know, and I understand,that you have a Holy Spirit as
well.
So, you being led by the spirit, you're being led to question.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
So there's nothing wrong with that.
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Now I'm playing devil's advocate.
Ok, devil's advocate, I have aquestion.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm playing devil's advocate, Okay devil's advocate.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I have a question, though, right, what about when
it's not being led by the spirit, but their flesh?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well then there's where oh, you're talking about
who, the husband or the wife?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
The husband.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
All right.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Because you said the husband is If you discern that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
If you think that that's what it is, I think
everything is deserving of aconversation.
If that's what you feel, if heshould, I mean, if he's mature
enough in the spirit, he shouldknow whether he's being led by
the spirit or the flesh it's.
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You'll just have to, you know,the woman will just have to
trust it.
You have to trust that he, youknow.
But bringing it to hisattention, we'll have, you know,
maybe within himself he'llquestion it and, you know, make
the adjustment If he, if hefeels that, you know, he'll go
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to God and be like you know, isthis my flesh or am I being led
by spirit?
And God, give him his answer.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
So listen, y'all those who are tuning in this is
Walking Out Inspirations.
We are the Purpose Couple andright now we are dissecting and
we are discussing the book TonyEvans Kingdom Marriage, and
right now we're diving into thethree O's, the first three
chapters of the book, which isorigin, order and opposition.
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So right now we're in between,talking about origin and order
at the same time, because theydo go hand in hand.
Listen, if you haven't had theopportunity, go ahead like share
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We are thankful and thank Godfor you as well as listeners.
Continue to tune in, as we haveso many more exciting things to
come.
So, with that being said, right,with you saying that and that's
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good and that's great, I wantto go because you know I like to
take stuff to the word.
You know I like to providereceipts.
Hello, mr Nita, welcome.
Glad you can join us, glad youcan tune in.
I want to dive in.
You know I like to take stuffto the word, I like receipts,
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right and I like to show theevidence based on what is spoken
in his words.
So Ephesians 5, 22 through 25,right the NIV version.
It reads wives, submityourselves to your own husbands
as you do to the Lord, for thehusband is the head of the wife,
as Christ is the head of thechurch, his body, of which he is
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the Savior.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Okay, that's part of what it's talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Submitting yourself yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
And then it says now, as the church submits to Christ
, so also wives should submit totheir husbands and everything.
Husbands love your wives, justas Christ loved the church and
gave himself up for her.
So I want to go into that alittle bit, because that portion
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it said wives, submityourselves to your own husbands.
However, the flip side to thatwas the flip side to that was
the fact that the husbands hadto be submissive to the Lord.
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I want to continue talkingabout the submission because I
feel it is so important within amarriage and understanding,
even as a kingdom wife, thesubmission, to be honest with
you, submission starts in yoursingleness, for both husbands
and wives.
Submission starts in yoursingleness because when you have
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positioned yourself to besubmissive to God first, when
you do get married, thatsubmission wives, women.
It's not a big deal, it's not astruggle, it's not a fight,
it's not a I'm not going to dothis or I'm not going to do that
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or I refuse, because you'vealready aligned yourself.
Because, honestly speaking,thank you, holy Spirit.
Honestly speaking, when you'resubmitting to your husband,
you're not truly submitting toyour husband, you're submitting
to the God in your husband.
I'm going to say that one moretime.
When you're submitting, you'renot submitting to your husband
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in the flesh, you're submittingto the God in your husband.
So that means I trust the Godin you and because in my
singleness I've already beensubmissive to God and I see God
in you, it's easy for me tosubmit to you.
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I see God in you, it's easy forme to submit to you.
And for husbands, as youcontinue to submit unto God, as
you continue to submit unto Godyou have when you do get married
, it's easy for you to continuewith that Right.
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So y'all see how that chainworks Husbands, wives.
It works on both ends.
The scripture says a cord ofthree strands is not quickly
torn apart, not quickly tornapart.
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A lot of times in marriageswhat happens is you'll have the
husband, you'll have the wife,and what happens is they remove
God out of the center of theirmarriage, forgetting the purpose
of their marriage.
And what happens is I love.
When God had given me this, hesaid what happens is when you
move me out of the center, allyou get is an entanglement,
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which is a twist, which is easyto unravel.
So you got the wife on a wholenother field and the husband on
a whole nother field.
So now, what was one now hasbeen divided, and y'all know a
house divided cannot stand.
That's right.
Why?
Because God was taken out ofthe center of their marriage.
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God is what keeps that marriagehold sealed, where that
three-stranded cord is not easyto be broken and it's not easy
to be torn apart.
Because he said what I puttogether, no man can part that's
right so, with that being said,going back to that submission,
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as you wives are submitted toGod and submitted to the God in
your husband, and as yourhusband is submitted to God, god
continues.
Y'all come together right asGod continues to be the center
of your marriage.
God is just not at theforefront.
God said I need to be in thecenter so that I can keep you
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guys together and you guys canstay on one accord.
It's no longer two but it's one.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yes, yep, one must be happy, single, like you said.
Happy, and that's the otherthing.
You don't look for happiness inmarriage.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
You definitely don't.
That that's the other thingthat honestly tears marriages
apart, because you go in like,oh you make me so happy, oh, I'm
happy, and then, the minutethat they don't do something
right or something, don't feelI'm not happy anymore.
Okay, well, what happened tothe happiness?
Right, honestly speaking,happiness comes naturally with
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purpose, right?
Yep, once happiness begins inyour singleness, you should
already be happy.
You know what I say y'all?
I say my husband has made mehappier.
I was already happy.
However, he added to myhappiness.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
That's right.
You should not look for anyoneto make you happy.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Right Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
The joy of the Lord is your strength.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Right, exactly, anybody make you happy.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
It's in the Lord is your strength.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Right, exactly, it doesn't make anybody make you
happy.
It's in the Lord that bringsyou happiness, that brings you
joy, and when you understandyour purpose as an individual.
When God brought my husband andI together, it was with a
purpose and it's interestingbecause both of our purposes
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aligned with one another andwhere we wanted to go in the
future Right.
So, although I was the one thatfought and was against and
tried to fight against it,didn't want it, didn't want it.
All of the above, which bringsme to the next scripture Talking
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about where it said that thehusbands love your wives as
Christ loves the church.
I want to go to the nextscripture, jeremiah 31 and 3.
That says the Lord appears tous in the past saying I have
loved you with an everlastinglove.
I have drawn you with unfailingkindness.
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Why did I bring that scriptureup?
I brought that scripture upbecause, although I was fighting
against him, his love drew me,him, his love drew me.
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Why it drew me?
Because I saw the God in himand his love.
I felt like God was loving methrough him.
I had never felt the love likethat before.
It was scary y'all.
It really was.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And confirmation in my singleness.
That's why I learned to love,though, because the Lord was
showing me love in my singleness, and that's why I learned.
That's why I learned to love.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
And honestly, as the scripture says, love covers the
multitude of sin.
As the scripture says, lovecovers the multitude of sin.
It was with his love that heloved the bitterness and the
anger and the rage and all ofthose things out of me.
It was cute.
I'm glad that you think so.
Now I can say that In thebeginning it was not, but, as
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that scripture stated, because,remember, the husband is
submitted to god.
So in that submission, thehusband has learned to love,
with an everlasting love thatdraws you, that draws the woman,
with unfailing kindness and itsays everlasting there, but a
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synonym would be uh,unconditional unconditional,
with no, no conditions.
I learned incentives no, nopretense.
I'm not, I'm not looking forwhen we can thank you holy
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spirit, with no conditions.
I will love you if right, right.
It wasn't under that and and,and I can confirm that he loved
me when I did not show lovetowards him.
Not that I didn't love him.
Honestly, I was scared of love.
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After a while.
However, it was hiscontinuation and the consistency
in his everlasting,unconditional love towards me
that opened my eyes, and lightbulb went off Like wait a minute
.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
When you love that way, it comes easy.
It comes easy Because you can'tbe offended at that point.
If you're easily offended, thenyeah.
But if it's my desire to loveunconditionally, you can be the
way you want to be Doesn't meanthat has to change me, and you
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know that's my, that's my that'smy language.
Love is my language anyway.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Blessings, taisha.
Thank you for joining in thisY'all.
This is getting really reallygood.
I hope you guys are gettingsomething out of this.
Listen those that have tuned in.
We definitely want to welcomeyou to Kingdom Marriage and its
Purpose, as we are the PurposeCouple.
Listen y'all.
Go ahead and continue.
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Those that are watching livecontinue to tag some people in.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Currently we are in this book right here.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yes, tony Evans' Kingdom Marriage.
We are dealing with the firstthree chapters that deal with
origin, order and opposition.
So at this moment we are goingto take a short break, we're
going to take a commercial breakand we will be right back with
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Y'all enjoy the music and kindof groove and kind of think
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about some of the stuff thatwe've already discussed.
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Right, we are back.
We are back.
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you're interested.
I want to go back into order,because one of the things that I
like that Tony Evans did whenhe was talking about order the
example that he lines no lanedividers.
None of the above, can youimagine?
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how that drive would be.
I think you can.
I think you can.
Why are you trying to saysomething, by the way.
I don't know.
Sometimes I wonder do you seethe lines or do you not?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
So See, that's what you get for getting people's
safety.
But I got you, I got what youmean.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I found it very interesting because we know
without order, there is nothingbut chaos.
And, as his word says, god isnot the author of confusion,
neither is he about chaos.
He is a God of decency andorder.
So with that, according tobiblical principle, the
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structure of a kingdom householdis God, the husband, wife,
children.
However, although it seems thatway, it seems like hierarchy
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God husband, wife is down here.
Okay, it is here Because youguys are one, that's right.
It's not this, it's this,that's right.
Why do you think God sat upthere and said you know what?
I'm going to take it from theside.
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So men don't get the big headand think, oh, why he ain't take
it from the leg, why he ain'tpull it from the foot, which is
up underneath?
He pulled it from the sidebecause he wanted to give a
reminder.
Hey, men, yes, I know I saidwhy submit that?
Your wife is going to submit itto you, but don't get it
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twisted.
Y'all are side by side.
You're not above her and she'snot above you.
Y'all are equal.
So I have a question does oneget to that point where either
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party feels like, oh, you'retrying to be over me or, oh,
you're trying to control?
How do we balance?
How does it, but how do webring a balance?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I think purpose is what balances that.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
But what if I, what if they don't?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
if they don't know what their purpose?
What if they don't know thepurpose?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
What if we don't know the purpose?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Well, you should know your own purpose first, isn't
that right?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I would hope so.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah, if you knew your purpose and I knew my
purpose, we should.
I guess if you're in Christ,you will figure out where you
guys will be able to help eachother.
I know you have another answer,so just go ahead.
You asked me because you havean answer.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
No, this is good because, okay, you said you need
to know your purposeindividually.
Okay, what if I know my purposeindividually?
You know your purposeindividually.
But then we get married and I'mlike, well, I got my purpose
and you got yours and you workon your purpose individually.
But then we get married and I'mlike, well, I got my purpose
and you got yours, and you workon your purpose while I go over
here and work on mine.
How do we bring the twopurposes together?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
switch lanes.
Who's doing the?
Switch, you know you bothswitching lanes.
I'm listening, I'm listening.
I guess I know you got ananswer, so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
How can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yeah, because honestly, I know the order is
the the topic of this, whatwe're talking about now, so it
has something to do with order.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
It does Very much.
So it is a matter of thehusband understanding the wife's
purpose and the wifeunderstanding the husband's
purpose, and then finding thecommon purpose between the two.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
That's what I meant to say.
No, I demonstrated it like that.
But no, yeah, the husbandfinding, as I say, you have to
know your purpose, and maybebecause I'm trying to be outside
of you and I because we thatwas one of the things we talked
about in our singleness.
(38:39):
Yeah, but that the people needto know that, ok, well, that's
one of the things we talk aboutin our singleness was our
purpose, and that's what kind ofdrawn us not knowing that we
were going to be married.
We were just talking aboutpurpose as individuals.
(38:59):
You know it, the the uhdiscussion of us possibly, you
know, getting together came upand here we are seven years
later.
But yeah, we, we discussedpurpose individually in our
(39:20):
singleness.
Yeah, yeah, you remember thosenights.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Okay, Now don't get it twisted y'all.
No, it wasn't it was.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
It was, it was G, it was G, ain't even no P G.
It was G.
It was definitely G, right at G.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
But it was interesting.
Those conversations lasted tillfour in the morning.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And um, they were very.
We you know we were.
How would you say, when I wasboosting you up, you boosted me
up.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, we yeah, yeah, that's that's what we did.
We poured into one another asfriends, um, and it became a
continuation.
One of the things that's veryimportant how do you keep God in
the center of the marriage?
One of the things that's veryimportant is that you have to,
basically everything that isdone must be done together
(40:14):
Finances, making the sounddecisions, those that have
children that are involved.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Just, a couple of questions we want to answer.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Yeah, making sound decisions on everything within
you guys, even down to how todiscipline the children.
Yes, right, because let me tellyou something about these
children, especially thisgeneration they will play on
their parents, right, if theyknow they can get away with it.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Oh, absolutely.
I know, I played on mine Evenback then.
Yeah, so it's it's.
I don't know if it's worse now,but it's the same then.
Yeah, so it's it's.
I don't know if it's worse now,but it's the same.
You know, this generation does,in a different way, do the same
thing.
Yeah, nothing to wonder the sun.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Okay, so I want to dive into some questions.
Thank you, hubby, forrecognizing these questions.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Edwards had asked this question about um.
Did the holy spirit speak to mewhen wifey didn't receive all
your love at first?
Yes, my Holy Spirit did speakto me and that's why I continued
.
It was.
It wasn't about me in thesituation where, where she and I
(41:29):
were getting to know each other, it wasn't about me, it was
about her.
So my Holy Spirit was making meconcentrate on that.
He was telling me not to that.
What she was doing wasn'tpersonal.
The way she was responding tome wasn't personal because, like
I said, we had some great phoneconversations but when she
(41:54):
would lash out at some things,it was uh, she showed.
She was actually showing mewhere she was hurting so those
you know and and at those times,that's when you know your
spirit is telling you that'swhat it's about.
You don't take that personal,you continue to love her is
telling you that's what it'sabout.
(42:14):
You don't take that personal,you continue to love her, even
even though she's doing that.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
It's not personal, so Look at you getting on deep on
me and stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Okay, good question.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Y'all listen.
This is the first of me hearingthis.
I've never heard him explain itthat way.
I was like wait a minute.
Oh, he threw something in there.
Oh, Okay, the Holy Spirit wasshowing him where I was hurt.
I think I'm going to take thatand run with it.
Y'all, I'm going to use thatfor quite some time, but no,
that's really really good andI'll be honest with y'all, it's
(42:52):
a continuation.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Don't do that, danita .
Don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I'll be honest, but I thank you.
I'll be honest with y'all.
It is a continuation and, inall honesty, him loving me, the
way that he loved me, taught mehow to love with no conditions.
I learned from him how to lovewith no conditions because it
was so consistent and I seen howit was like God's word came to
(43:24):
light pertaining love.
What does love look like?
What is kingdom love?
What is unconditional love?
What does that mean?
What does that look like?
And I actually got to see itright before my eyes through him
.
So it taught me a lot of thingsabout love.
It even changed how I loved mychildren and the way I love my
(43:49):
children, because the very samething that he mentioned, god
showed him where I was hurtingand I was showing him where I
was hurting and God justconfirmed that same exact thing
was happening to me with mychildren.
God began to show me how tolove my children where they were
and not love them according tomy own love language.
(44:11):
That's another book that's realgood the Five Love Languages.
That's a really, really good,insightful book, because
everybody has a different lovelanguage.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
And when you understand their love language
and also understand theirpurpose, you're able to meet
them where they are Right, evenwhen you have to provide them
tough love.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Okay, they are right, even when you have to provide
them tough love.
Okay, early on, god showed methose children and their
basically their futures, and um,from that you begin to discern
what their purpose is and, likemarianne, you can see the love
that child has, theunconditional love that child
has, the unconditional love thatchild has, the healing power
(44:54):
that child has.
You know, it showed me thatactually she was too strong to
have one love interest in herlife.
I was like you ain't going tohandle a boyfriend, you ain't
going to handle a husband, justbecause you're going to be busy
spreading that love around.
You know, and and I don't meanthat in the wrong way, I what I
(45:16):
mean is that she was just.
You know, she loves animals,she loves everything, she loves
everything god because she lovesgod yes yeah, and she'll tell
you in a minute.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
I mean, when she was like three years old, she'll say
my boyfriend's name is Jesus.
Right, that's right, that'sright.
And you know, and even with ourboys, yeah, now, once again,
purpose there's.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I've seen purpose in the boys.
So you got to know how to like,she said.
You got to know how to meetthem where they are and you know
it's difficult when you'retrying to parent because you
know you see all the crazy stuffthey do.
But you have to rememberthey're young children.
They have to be, you know, led,guided, molded and shown how to
(46:21):
you know, take direction fromtheir spirits once they realize
that there is a Holy Spiritwithin them as well.
Because these children, theirchurch children, they've been in
the church, so whether or not.
They want to say that they'relistening.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
It's permeating, it's permeating them and with you
stating that as as a marriedcouple, as a kingdom married
couple, you don't even realizehow much of an example you are
to your children and, in allhonesty, you don't realize how
much your children watch andmock what you do.
Yeah, and it was interestingbecause I was just sharing with
(46:48):
my husband, I was telling him, Isaid listen, because don't get
me wrong we get so busy, tied upand whatever have you,
sometimes we don't make the bedand sometimes a bed's not made
and everything like that.
This is listen, we real on thisshow.
Okay, we're transparent.
We don't try to make our livesseem like it's all peachy,
creamy and we do everythingcorrect?
No, not at all.
There are times where we don'tmake our bed.
(47:10):
We just get up out of bed, wego shower, get ready and that's
it.
We go and sometimes our roomcould get a little little junky
because we put stuff out oforder.
They go to out of order againto talk about that order and
putting stuff out of place andstuff like that.
And I told my husband, I saidyou know what we do, all this
fussing at our children aboutkeep stuff off the floor.
(47:33):
Make sure you, when you get outthe bed, you make your bed soon
as you get out the bed.
And I told him, I said butsweetie, I said babe, I said
just a suggestion.
We're telling them to do thosethings but we're not
implementing what we're tellingthem.
As God said, don't just be ahero of the word, but the doer
(47:53):
of the word.
We can't just speak to themwhat they need to do if we're
not applying what we're speaking.
My God, somebody catch that.
And that's the same with God'sword.
That's the same within yourmarriage.
That's the same with anyrelationship.
Anytime you're pouring into anindividual, like a lot of times
(48:19):
when the lord had me pour intothe, into my husband.
It's something that I havealready experienced or gone
through, or god has given meinsight on, and we'll have a
discussion about it, right, andit gets so good and, and can I
tell you, he's more receptive ofit because it's like what she's
saying, she is absolutely rightand I've seen her walk it out.
(48:42):
She's not just giving meinstruction, she's giving me
instructions that she's alreadyfollowed.
So at that point, yes, he'sstill the head.
Yes, he's still the head, yes,he's still the, the leader.
However, that's at that moment,it's that humbling.
Thank you, holy spirit.
He humbles himself to get thatmissing piece of wisdom, or
(49:06):
missing piece that he could notfigure out.
Hold on right, my rib done,stepped in, my, my, my help me
done, stepped in and gave me awhole another perspective and
insight on this.
And you know what, yeah, thatsounds real good.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Let's do it that way right, and that's the whole
submission thing.
You know, that's the wholesubmission.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Because, honestly, if we go back to, if we go up in
Ephesians Ephesians 5, 21,.
It says submit to one anotherout of reverence for Christ,
(49:52):
Right?
So wait a minute.
That just threw a whole anotherperspective on that.
So it's not just wives, it'snot just you submitted to your
husband.
Your husband submits to Godfirst, just as you would submit
to God first and then submit tothe God in your husband.
(50:12):
However, you guys aresubmitting to one another
because submission simply meansacceptance.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
You both have Christ in you, yes, so that should make
it a lot easier, you know, forthat to occur, because I know
that she's coming from a placeof Christ and she knows I am as
well.
So it's not like there shouldbe no tug of war, you know, it's
(50:42):
definitely.
I mean I guess now every nowand then, but we don't butt
heads for long because you knowone of us will come to our
senses.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah, we do.
Yeah, we have a whole lot ofthat.
We definitely have a whole lotof that and, honestly, I don't
care how upset I might get athim or how upset he might get at
me.
Honestly, we don't stay angryor upset at each other very long
.
We don't stay quiet or muteourselves from each other very
(51:13):
long, because it disturbs.
If I'm doing it to him, it'lldisturb and disrupt my spirit
and I'm uneasy and although Istill got an attitude because I
don't want to go to talk to himbecause he's wrong and he need
to come talk to me, first we goseparate, we talk to god, and
then we come back.
However, it always ends up wecome back at the same time, or
(51:38):
it'll be right when it's time toget ready for bed, or anything
like that.
He might mush me like this, andI'll be like I'm still mad at
you.
And he'll be like, okay, well,let's talk about it.
And I'll be like, oh, now youwant to talk, that's just.
You know, that's me being thewoman in me.
You know, give him a hard timea little bit.
(51:59):
He's used to it.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, but you realize that that's what it is.
Though that's what it's about.
He's going to give me a hardtime.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
I know that you know so, so, but it's great.
Husbands know your wife yeahdefinitely, definitely know
their personality, know how theyare and you know that changes
Know this.
This is what I love about myhusband.
My husband allows me to be meIn ministry, outside of the home
(52:31):
.
He shares me with so manypeople and he allows me to be me
.
And what I love about him is hedoes not stunt my growth.
If anything, he's like wait,hold up, hold up, babe, where
you going?
(52:51):
Wait, wait, I'm right, listen,we growing together.
He does not stop what God isdeveloping within me and vice
versa.
I don't do that with him, andalso, we also understand that
each other's timing is different.
So a lot of times, god may giveme things for him, friend.
(53:17):
So a lot of times, god may giveme things for him.
However, it's like far sightand he hasn't gotten there yet.
So for him, it seems strange.
For him, he doesn't see it, andI cannot get frustrated or get
upset because he's not seeing ithow I'm seeing it.
However, I must, at that time,have an understanding.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
But I tell you, you just bringing it up and bringing
it to my attention, although Ican't see it now, it's here as I
go forward, how you feel ishere.
So, along my journey, if I seeanywhere that starts to remind
me that you know, she told youthat If I see that it's going
(53:59):
that way, then I know to reversegears, you know, and then we'll
talk about that too.
Like you know, I know I wasbeing hardheaded when you told
me such and such and such, butI'm just letting you know that.
You know, now it's starting tocome to pass those things that
you've mentioned, and I'mletting you know that I'm, you
(54:19):
know I'm going in a differentdirection.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
And vice versa.
Honestly, there's things thatthe Lord has shown me, shown him
pertaining me, that he's toldme that I'm like okay, yeah,
Okay, and it should be nooffense in that you, and there
should be no offense in that.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
There should be no offense in that.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
And I receive it and I remember, I know it's coming
from a good place.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I assume my wife don't want nothing bad for me
and I definitely don't wantanything bad for her.
I mean same thing with ourchildren.
You try to get them to avoidthe pitfalls that you see coming
, especially the ones thatyou've the holes that you fell
in, and you try to let them knowand you just hope that same
(55:04):
thing it's here, even though, asthey're going forward, when
they see, you know they'll see.
Yeah, dad on mine told me aboutthis and maybe I need to
rethink this.
And that's what you pray, thatyour children get that.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
So, with you saying that and you said falling in the
pitfalls, I'm glad that yousaid because I want to go into
the opposition portion of it.
We kind of dived into order, letme say it in order.
We kind of dived into order,let me say it in order.
We kind of dived into origin,we dived into order.
I want to close out with theopposition because there was
something and I'm going to readit straight out of the book that
(55:44):
Tony Evans said.
That was so good and it was soimportant and I wanted to read
this piece.
It says Satan's goal for youand your spouse is to rob you of
your own spiritual championshipbid and drag you down to his
defeatist level.
What I thought about in thatscripture where it states Satan
(56:06):
is committed to seeing to itthat you never reach your
potential.
That was so good because, again, a house divided cannot stand.
And the scripture said one canchase a thousand Right, and then
it said two can do what?
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Chase 10,000.
Right, Just was I right.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
One can chase a thousand.
Was I right, you was right.
Two can chase 10, was.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
I right, you was right Two can chase a thousand.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
So with that, good evening Josh, Good evening Thank
you for joining.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Thank you for joining in.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
So with that, let's go back to Adam and Eve.
He was so conniving because Godgave Adam the instructions and,
mind you, adam is the head,he's the protector, he's the
provider, and so with that, hewent to Eve.
(57:07):
Eve, you know that ain't true.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (57:11):
Now you know you can have so much more.
Man.
Ain't nothing about to happento you?
God created you.
You really think he going tokill you?
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Right See, now, that's twofold order and
opposition.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Right, that was out of order, right.
Why you ain't go to the head?
Yeah.
Why you ain't go to the head?
Yeah.
Why you ain't go to the oneI'll show you what Satan?
Speaker 2 (57:38):
is he out of order?
Speaker 3 (57:39):
Right, he's out of order, that part, right.
So with that now Eve is likebecause, remember, we, the
nurturers, we pour into ourhusbands and our husbands do
take our word at value.
They do listen.
Sometimes they can be stubborn,they can be hardheaded
sometimes.
However, it keeps it in themind.
(58:00):
So she goes and like Adam,ain't nothing going to happen to
this head?
Take a bite, notice nothinghappened until Adam bit the
fruit.
When Eve bit the fruit, nothinghappened.
But when Adam bit the fruit,that's when something happened.
(58:23):
Why?
Because let's go back to order,right, right.
(58:49):
So, with that being said, aslong as the enemy can keep
division, a lot of times whenyou feel like you're angry at
your spouse, you really need totake a step back and really look
and say am I angry at my it, myspouse, or is it the situation?
Am I upset because the financesaren't where they're supposed
to be?
Am I upset because the childrenare being hardheaded, stubborn
and not listening?
Am I upset because it seemslike we can't see eye to eye and
(59:11):
make final decisions?
Can I tell y'all how to trumpthat out and how to cancel that?
This is why it's so importantas a kingdom marriage, even as a
kingdom family, to pray dailytogether.
Pray over your financestogether, discuss your finances
(59:33):
together, discuss your financestogether, discuss your children
together.
You have to have those.
Prayer is so important andthat's what also keeps the fire
and keeps God at the center ofyour marriage, amen.
So I just want to close withthis.
(59:57):
As we discuss the first threechapters origin I can't wait for
the next Origin, order andopposition.
I want to encourage you, men,women, stay in your lane and
(01:00:21):
bring the lanes together.
Y'all know those lanes, matterof fact.
Remember when you was like theygo like this, the Holy Spirit
just gave me a visual.
No, what do they do?
Merge Right.
You know those lanes thatstarted out as two, but then it
gives you a sign that this laneis going to merge into.
Oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Lord, learn to drive.
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Learn to drive.
Yes, taisha, a family thatprays together stays together.
So, listen, that is our timethis evening.
Listen, we excited to play ournew close out.
Listen, shout out to PropheticStyles.
We thank God for him and wethank God for the connection.
Listen, y'all, check him out.
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It is Prophetic Styles.
Check out his music.
He is the artist of this song.
So y'all go ahead and enjoy andlisten until next time.
Listen, we're going to pick backup and finish out um opposition
.
We may give a few more pointers, recap the other two chapters
(01:01:24):
and then we're going to go intothe next two chapters.
Which is oaf.
Listen, y'all.
Y'all go ahead, cap to get thisbook, even if you're not
married.
It has some good insight inthere and, honestly, it's not
just for marriage.
These principles apply torelationships, period, yes.
(01:01:44):
So listen, we love y'all.
Y'all enjoy the rest of yourevening.
Don't forget.
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Those that are watching live.
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(01:02:26):
Listen, y'all, enjoy the restof y'all evening.
We are the purpose couple withwalk it out inspiration out
inspiration.
Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Y'all take care, y'all have a good.
My saints down in PA, walk itout.
Ny.
Walk it out PA, walk it outNorth Carolina, walk it out.
Atm Walk it out Maryland, walkit out.
Everybody walking in.
(01:03:00):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Walk it out If you were so drunk.
Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Time to put some action to the birds that you're
talking.
Walk it out.
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