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Hello, everybody.
Welcome to today's episode ofWalk With Me.
I am your host, JJ.
So good to have each and everyone of you here with us today.
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I know I've been teasing thisfor a little while, but
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sometimes you just gotta let Goddo what he has to do.
Uh, but that being said, let'sget back to these questions.
Um I I do love the questions,and please keep them coming.
I'm not saying don't ask thequestions.
Um, here's the thing is whenthey when we're doing a an
in-depth sort of study likethis, um, a lot of the questions
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that you're going that you'reasking me, I have I I may just
send you back, like I said, I'veresponded to a couple people.
Yes, that's coming, that'scoming.
Don't think that um I'm justsort of brushing you off.
This end times Bible study isprobably going to be the most
in-depth one I've ever done.
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And it's important that we gobeyond the surface because
sometimes we like to look at.
I was talking to somebody, oneof my good co-worker friends,
and she's all about nostalgiaand this and that, and that and
that's okay.
That's okay.
But if you go with just onescripture or one thing that's
prophesied for the end times,we'll miss a lot of things that
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will make um that will make thatwill change the context of what
you're seeing now.
So it's important to really gothrough it step by step and
really build a foundation beforewe get to the whole beast rising
out of the sea and who's theAntichrist and where that person
is.
Okay, so all I'm asking isplease be a little bit patient
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with me.
I'm I have to go through thisvery slowly and very
methodically and verythoroughly.
And again, this is there's areason for this because it's
it's in the Bible, and so onething I've I have come to find
out, I've come to figure out instudying the Bible, that as much
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stuff that is in there, as muchthings that are going on in
there, there just isn't anythingsuperfluous, there's nothing
extra.
There's there may be things thatrepeat themselves, and they
repeat themselves for a reason,but there's no fluff in the
Bible.
So um that being said, we would.
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I'm just gonna get right backinto it.
Um, because last week we'retalking about um Daniel and the
diet, the Alliance Den, and andwe're we have to keep this whole
thing going because the book ofDaniel does uh correlate and
sort of sister uh sister buttbook the book of Revelation.
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Now there are a lot of otherbooks in the Old Testament that
will kind of refer to Revelationbut or to refer to other
prophecies, like Isaiah talkedabout the coming birth of Jesus
Christ a lot, but right now I'mtrying not to make this too
convoluted, so um, but and thenin the meantime, not um missing
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anything important.
So please take notes, sendquestions.
I love questions, okay.
But remember, when we give ascripture, uh always read a
verse or two above or a verse ortwo below, because we want
everything to be in context,okay.
So now we we talked about thatfirst stream, and I just sort of
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touched on it and what thatmeant, and I'm just gonna touch
on that, and then I'm gonna gointo what we're gonna talk about
today.
So remember, uh Nebuchadnezzarhad that dream where he had the
guy who had the head of gold andthe breast of arms of silver.
Uh, and when you read that, yougotta understand that when
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Daniel was telling, wasinterpreting these dreams, he
was saying he was basicallytelling Nebuchadnezzar the order
of kingdoms that were to come,working from the head down.
What was the strongest?
What was the next strongest?
What was the one after that?
What would be the weakestkingdom, and how it was all
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going to come apart.
So we are actually seeing, or wehave actually seen in history
this Nebuchadnezzar thing.
Oh, where do you see that at?
First off, the heart, the headof gold was Babylon.
That was Nebuchadnezzar'skingdom.
That was the first big, strong,solid kingdom.
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Right after that, you had MeteorPersia.
Remember how where theBabylonians had fell off, and
and they were felt his uh hisson was in there and drinking,
and the handwriting came out.
The Medes and the Persians aregoing to destroy you this night.
That ushered in the Medes andthe Persians.
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That was from about 538 um to330 BC.
Now notice I'm I'm noted I'mnumerating it in what appears to
be backwards because we'reworking up to the time of
Christ.
So 538 is actually older than330.
Yeah, I know it sounds basic,but I just like to you know make
sure everything is is in decencyand in order in its proper
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place.
So 538 to 330 BC was the meetingof Persians.
Now the belly and the thighs ofbrass, in the book that in the
Bible they call it the loin, butthat's the thigh.
That's the Grecian Empire.
That's your 330 to 146 BC, andafter that, the legs of iron,
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which was Rome, which was 146 to408 AD, after the birth of
Christ, or in Latin terms, a ADstands for Amno Dominion.
Now we gotta note somethinghere.
Alexander died in 323 BC duringhis 33rd year.
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It was after that that his uhhis kingdom was divided up into
four generals.
That's why it was never asstrong as the Babylonian Empire.
The two legs, which is the RomanEmpire, was divided into two
parts.
You had the eastern parts andthe western parts.
If you look at your historybooks, you will see that there's
an Eastern Roman Empire, there'sa Western Roman Empire.
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They didn't really fight, butthey didn't actually get along
either.
So, and then if you were on thewestern side, you were always
fighting the what became Spainand France and Portugal, and
then the eastern part, youalways had to fight what became
the Goths and the Busy Goths,and I mean it it's all right
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there in history.
Now, I don't want to get offinto that because I am a big
history book, and when you seehow this you know how this
correlates to what we are taughtin history, it starts to really
make sense as to why they'retrying to take certain things
out of history books.
So now these ten toads willreset will represent the ten
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kings of the end times prior toArmageddon, and I want you to
understand that because thisremember we were talking about
how Daniel and Revelation aresister books.
Each one of these writers sawthings from their own
perspective because this is theway God was explaining it to
them.
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Now, that stone, then all of asudden you saw this stone that
was cut out without hand, whichwould be Jesus Christ, which
will set up a uh a kingdom ofhis own.
And this is what is commonlyreferred to as the Millennial
Kingdom.
Now, the future Gentile kingdomswere really what Nebuchadnezzar
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was seeing, and becauseNebuchadnezzar did not know how
to talk about the future, whichmost of us don't, we generally
don't even, our minds won't evengenerally recognize the future
until it happens.
If you ever get that feeling,that's deja vu, it's because God
already tried to tell you thisis going to happen, and we
weren't paying attention.
But moving right along, becausethat's I I wanted to touch on
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that, I wanted to finish that upbecause Nebuchadnezzar had a
second dream.
And in this dream, he had a itwas a big old tree, and a lot of
preachers don't preach on thistree.
I'm not sure as to why not, butin this dream, there was a huge
tree that stretched all the wayto heaven, and there were birds
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on it, and and there was lionsand stuff underneath the the
tree in the shade, and then theholy one came down from heaven
and said, Cut down this tree.
However, the the stump was thatwas left that was left after the
tree was cut down, was coveredin iron so that it wouldn't
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grow.
So in the dream, the the watcherdeclared the beast's heart to be
given until seven times passedover.
And when the wise men wereunable to interpret the dream,
the king called to Daniel again.
This is the second time.
Now, uh, if I remember right,Daniel was quiet for a minute
because he was waiting for Godto tell him what to do.
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There's a lesson right thereabout us trying to get out ahead
of God, and a lot of time wedon't want to do that, and so
when we we feel these what am Isaying?
When we get to these parts wherewe don't quite understand, we
instantly try to it plug thingsin, and we try to plug things in
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because it sounds good at themoment, and then when we go to
really think about it or prayabout it or read about it, it
start to uh it starts to reallycontradict the word of God, and
we don't know how to handlethat.
Now, this thing, this dream wasabout Nebuchadnezzar about to
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face God's judgment becausejudgment was to fall upon him
for seven years.
That tree that um showedNebuchadnezzar's great kingdom
was about to be cut down, andthat's that stump was about to
be bound up for what they callseven times.
Whenever you hear seven times,that generally means seven times
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earth around the sun, which isgenerally seven years.
Now, during this time, he'sgonna lose his sanity, he's
gonna be just like the beastthat was under his his own
leaves, but after that, he wasgonna pray, and his sanity was
gonna be restored, and we seethat his kingdom would also be
restored, and the stump in theground would show that a kingdom
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that God that was not built byGod can be destroyed, and even
though your your kingdom can bedestroyed, God will have mercy
on it and not destroy itcompletely.
So it's right about this fourthchapter.
This is we sort of see a shiftin Nebuchadnezzar, and and
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again, I'm not sure as to why wedon't preach this very often
because Nebuchadnezzar was avery cruel man, he was a very
serious king, but in this fourthchapter, Nebuchadnezzar started
to convert, and he startedsaying things in like in Daniel
chapter 2.
Well, you know, he your your Godis a God of God and a Lord of
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kings.
This is Daniel 2.47.
Daniel 3.29, he was saying stufflike, nor the God can deliver
after this sort.
When he was talking about thethree men coming out of the
fire.
When but in Daniel 4, chapter,chapter 4, verse 2 and 3, he
started delivering a testimony.
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And even after that, he was hewas told that he should get rid
of his sins by living arighteous life.
Maybe that's why we don't preachthat tree anymore, because he
can't preach that tree withoutpreaching 427.
But just like some of us,Nebuchadnezzar had a pride
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problem.
And I mean, let's let's berealistic.
Let's be realistic here.
We can't really faultNebuchadnezzar for having a
pride problem.
He was the king of the world atthat time.
You have to have some sort ofsome level of pride if you're a
man and you're a kingdom ofother men at that time.
So guess what?
Daniel 4 30 happened.
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Then after that, he hadcompletely forgotten his vision,
he had completely forgotten theinterpretation, and he was sunk,
uh, he was humbled in for sevenyears, and then in 434, he
lifted up his eyes, and herealized that God had rescued
him.
So, and that that is anotherpart of Daniel being the book of
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Daniel being correlated to thebook of Revelation, and this
sort of thing, we were talkingbefore about I think it was in
week one of this, how there aresome prophecies that are
prophetical, and then there aresome which are which I'm gonna
just call transhetical.
Yeah, I'm gonna- that's the wordI'm gonna use, transhetical.
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And the reason why I say that isbecause it's a it's a prophecy
that takes takes place then, andthen it's a prophecy that takes
place now, and it's the sameprophecy, so we can't discard it
because it already came true,because it's or it's gonna come
true again.
In other words, this is what Icall a transprophetical thing.
Man is gonna reach a peak ofpride and arrogance, and where
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God is completely ruled out.
Now, every once in a while youyou you see something that
doesn't even make sense of whyman could do some things, and we
could talk about how wecompletely rule out the idea
that God put us in the rightbodies, for instance, or God is,
or or we are now gods becausewe're creating AI, and then AI
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is supposed to serve us the waywe're supposed to serve God, and
then what's gonna happen is thatthis AI is gonna rebel against
us just like we rebel againstGod, but we're not gonna be able
to shut the AI down like Godshut us down.
I hope that's not prophecy, butI I fear that this may happen.
Now, when this rapture happens,and there is gonna be a rapture,
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we're gonna get to that.
That's in the New Testament.
But when this rapture happens,there are gonna be seven years
of really bad madness andinsanity.
Insanity, like you think thingsare crazy now.
There is still some measure ofgodly spirit that's holding
everything back right now.
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Now, when that happens, allrestraints are gonna be lifted.
It's gonna be a time oflawlessness that you and I
cannot even fathom.
For instance, when we look atthe book of Judges, one of the
things that I I talk about a lotin the book of Judges is there's
just a phrase that keepsappearing over and over.
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There was no king in Israel, andI may actually talk about that
on Sunday.
There was no king in Israel, andbasically it was like everyone
was doing right what was whatwas right in their own eyes.
And you and I, because we arebasically kind of decent people,
we think, oh well, if I feellike I want to park here, I'm
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just gonna park here.
No, no, no.
We're talking about a lawlessand insane time.
Think of it like um kind of likethe purge, where there's gonna
be just a level of insanity andlawlessness that where there
will be no consequences, we'removing in that direction where
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your actions are your actions,and there are no consequences,
and and there's just gonna bejust pretty much everybody for
themselves, and that stump thatNebuchadnezzar saw when the tree
was cut down, it's gonna be thatwe're not completely destroyed
during this period, but we won'tbe able to grow.
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But there will be a way ofrepentance that will that'll
show, and and and I'm startingto believe that people that make
it to the millennium reign, themillennium kingdom, if you can
make it to seven years, remembernow, you only have um you only
have a one in four chance ofsurviving that seven year
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period.
Unless I will get into that, butI want you to write that down
now.
One over four, one fourth, onein four chance of surviving the
next seven years after therapture after the rapture
starts, or let me just be moregeneralistic and say, um, after
the tribulation starts.
And the reason why I say that isbecause some people uh are
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pre-tribulation and some aremid-tribulation.
So we don't want to get thatpart.
Um I'm sorry, let me back up.
Some people are pre-tribulationrapture and some are
mid-tribulation rapture, andthere are some people who are
post-tribulation rapture.
I mean, I don't I don't see itbeing post-tribulation.
Um I'm I would like it to bepre-tribulation, but and uh,
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some people think it'smid-tribulation, and that's just
a matter of we can we can searchthe scripture about it if you
want, but I think all of it sortof ends up as in uh the Bible
sort of point more to it beingpre-tribulation because after
the the spirit of God is liftedout, the sinner from son of uh
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perdition is revealed, and blahblah blah.
So I tend to believe moretowards pre-tribulation, that
the rapture is going to signifythe start of the tribulation.
That being said, you only haveabout a one-in-four chance of
surviving the next seven years.
The end.
And if you do make it to the endof seven years, you may have a
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chance of repenting, and andthat sort of that's where I was
going with that that band aroundthe tree.
Um, because the mankind is notcompletely destroyed, but is it
can have a chance of regrowth,so you may have a chance of
repenting during that millennialstrain.
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Because after that, the devil'sgonna come back and deceive
people again, and then the finaljudgment.
So, that being said, I want tostart before we run out of time.
We were talking about before theMedes and the Persians, and
doing this Bible study is gonnabe so hard for me to get ahead
of myself.
Oh my god.
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So remember, we were talkingabout the Medes and the Persians
and how they came after Babylon.
Well, that happened becausethere was a king Belshazzar,
which came after Nebuchadnezzar,which was Nebuchadnezzar's son.
But some people have said, andI've I've heard it said a lot,
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that it was Belshazzar that wasnot the king of Babylon was
overthrown.
But you know what?
The Bible says it wasBelshazzar, so I'm gonna go with
Belshazzar.
There was a uh inscription in1853, um, that they the
inscription was founded in 1853,uh, that was built by Nabonide.
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In his description, Belshazzaris mentioned as being his
firstborn and favorite son.
So that means Belshazzar wouldhave been Nebuchadnezzar's
grandson.
Um, now in this and in thisinscription, uh Daniel called
Belshazzar the son ofNebuchadnezzar.
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Now, what does that mean, JJ?
Is there a Bible contradiction?
No, no, no.
Jesus is also referred to as theson of David.
That just means that there was alineage that can be transferred
back, and that doesn't mean thatwithout um that that Jesus was
not the son of God.
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People will say all it all day,I'm the son of Jacob.
You're not the son of Jacob,you're like the great, great,
great, great, great, great,great, great, great, great,
great, great, great, great,great, great, great, great,
great, great, great, great,great grandson.
But that's how they refer to itin the Bible.
This is the son of.
So when you say stuff like that,you just got to understand how
it is written.
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So now let's talk about thathandwriting on the wall before
we run out of time.
Now, this is the second time inthe Bible where God is being
depicted to have writtensomething himself.
The first time was on MountSinai when God delivered the law
on the stone tables, the stonetablets.
Here on the walls of Babylon,God wrote a message of judgment.
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Now, in the New Testament, Jesusis gonna stoop down and write a
message in the sand.
So I'm telling you, this is howthis is the same God yesterday,
today, and forever.
God wrote something on tablets,which is made of sand, which is
because it's rock and rock ismade of sand.
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Then God came and wrotesomething on the wall, which
back then they they madeconcrete out of sand, they still
make concrete out of sand, andthen Jesus went back and stood
down and wrote something on thesand when they brought that
woman to uh accuse her ofadultery.
So God knelt down and he startedwriting in sand.
And this is the three thingsthat God has ever written.
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He's written the law when he wastalking to Moses, he was writing
judgment when he was talking tothe um the Babylonians, and he
was writing about grace when hewas talking about when that
situation was the adulterousone.
You see, all of these things tiein together, there is no
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separation.
The only thing that separatesthe New Testament and the Old
Testament is the 400 years ofsilence, but that does not mean
that God went away somewhere andhad a vacation.
This is the same God doing thesame thing, and I'm trying again
not to get ahead of myself.
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So let's talk about it and thenwe're gonna wrap up.
Belshazzar had this great feast.
Now, he invited all kinds ofpeople and important people,
it's like they always sort ofdo, or they sort of did.
They are always invited theimportant people, they always
brought big people in, and andand then Belshazzar decided
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while they were all drunk andacting crazy that um and doing
all the things that they wouldactually do the sin that would
that they knew was wrong,because Nebuchadnezzar knew it
was wrong, and Nebuchadnezzarpassed this down, they knew it
was wrong.
You inherently know when you'redoing something wrong.
So you went and Belshazzar tookall the stuff out of the temple.
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Remember stuff that God said,don't touch.
Even Nebuchadnezzar didn't touchit.
But every time you turn aroundwhen somebody's doing something
bad, it seems like the next nextgeneration's got to do something
worse.
So he thought it could be agreat idea to entertain his
guests and simultaneously showhis contempt for God.
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And then so he brought all thesesacred vessels out.
These are the sacred vesselsthat had been picked up and
stored in there all the way backfrom the time of Jericho.
And he decided that he was goingto use them in service to pagan
gods, and it was then, rightthen, out of nowhere, these
hands come back and wrote, Mine,mine techopteris.
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Now, some people have told me,and I I have to take their word
for it because I wasn't there.
But these words were written inAramaic and could be read by
everybody.
No one knew the meaning, buteven though they could be read.
The wise man couldn't do it, thethe queen mother that they had,
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the pagan idol worshipingso-called prophetess came up in
there to say, Hey man, I can'tdo this either.
But you know what?
Who could probably do it?
Daniel could probably tell.
Because Daniel knows this kindof stuff.
So Daniel, so Belshazzar said,Hey man, I'll give you anything
you want, I'll give you gold andnice robes and a new title.
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Daniel didn't need any of that,but he told them what Mine,
Mine, Teko Paris is, and Minewas written twice.
So Mina is numbered.
God has numbered that yourkingdom is finished it.
So he finished it twice.
It was weighed in the balancesand found warranted.
In other words, it was weighedthe judgment and the
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unrighteousness, righteousnessand unrighteousness was weighed,
and you were found to beunrighteous.
Division, which is the parish,the kingdom is divided and given
to the Medes and the Persians.
And right about that time, evenwhile Daniel was given that
measurement of judgment, theenemy was already entering the
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city.
And on that note, we're gonnastop.
Sometimes, sometimes we think wecan just sort of get along with
things and just sort of dothings the way we want to do
things.
And we we see this now,especially, it seems like every
day now, things are happening,things are picking up scheme,
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things are are are spiraling outof control.
We sort of get a little bit ofcontrol back, and then it gets
worse again.
All because we're not given,we're not allowing God to
control these things.
We're trying to control them,and then we wonder why it never
seems to work out.
So I say all these thingsbecause this is what the Bible
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says.
This is the pattern that theBible has laid out for us.
So we're gonna talk about whathappened after that and what
historical lessons that we'rejust we should carry over as we
continue this study of Danieland how it relates to
Revelation.
We are gonna get intoRevelation, y'all.
I would say we're about a littlebit close to halfway through.
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Because I'm not gonna cover allof Daniel, I just want to cover
the most important part and howthe parts that really relate to
Revelation.
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Uh, and I can't wait to get backto you guys next week.
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