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September 8, 2025 19 mins

Pat and Jeff complete their two-part podcast on Dietrich Bonhoeffer's The Cost of Discipleship. In this episode, they talk about the importance of faith with obedience and obedience with faith, or as Bonhoeffer writes, “Only those who obey can believe, and only those who believe can obey" (Bonhoeffer, Dietrich. The Cost of Discipleship (p. 70). Touchstone. Kindle Edition).

The problem with being obedient to Jesus for most of us is, as Pat says, "we want a savior, but we don't want a Lord.  In other words, we want to be saved, but we don't want to be told what to do.

Note: The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of Pat Barry and Jeff Quinto and may not reflect the opinions of the Bethel Bible Series or Bethel Lutheran Church.

Blessings in Christ,  Pat & Jeff

Soli Deo Gloria!

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