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It's couch time today, baby.What do you think it is? Look
at this, guys, we arejoining you on our couch. What do
you think with our beautiful bay windowin the back, our beautiful bay window
in the We actually have a reallypretty scene back here in the trees.
We don't always have a very prettyscene, sometimes really close to our neighbors.
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But you never know what kind ofyou you're gonna get. It's always
a surprise, that's true. Whatdo you guys think you should tell us?
Should we do couch podcast episodes fromnow on? Or do you like
us sitting at the desk instead?Welcome to the Wandering RV Podcast, your
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biweekly source for our stories, ourscrew ups, and our success is living
the full time RV lef. I'myour post Kara, the Wandering our V
babe, and this is my RyanCony and it is my honor to introduce
our very first guest to the podcast. What's two for one? It is?
This is amazing. We have PapaDriver and his navigator Gigi. Yeah,
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so, Papa Gigi, who areyou? Who's the heck are you?
Why are you in our camp?Right? Are you? Because we
stalk you? It's something something likethat. I do happen to be related
to Ryan the Driver. Ah,so that's why you're the Papa driver driver
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of Ryan the Driver. Oh,there we go. And I'm the mama,
even though I'm called Gigi because ofthe grandchild. So I'm Gigi.
The Navigator's very apt names. Ilove it. You do need a driver
and a navigator when you are,amen, So where's my navigator? It's
here, But you wonder you're thewandering RV baby. That doesn't seem like
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a good navigator. Listen, itworks for us. Tell everybody about it.
This week's episode. Oh so thisweek, what we have for you
guys today is crossing the border,both the Canadian border and the US border
with not one but two RVs.That was an experience. Let me just
tell you. We're gonna get toit. Also, we're talking all of
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our most underrated RV must have sothings you wouldn't necessarily think about, but
they're pretty clutch in an RV,doing RV life and then caravanning with friends
and family. So this is whatwe have for you today. It's going
to be a great episode. Youshould absolutely stick around. Oh first,
Gigi, the first Navigator. Whereare we at today? We're in Port
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Angeles, Washington, which is rightnext door to Olympic National Park, which
has been on our bucket list fora long time. Yeah. Yeah,
this was y'all's bucket list item.And I think we I think we just
caggle at this time. We werelike, hey, we got nothing to
do, so you what do youwant to do? Go to park?
I mean it's been pretty cool sofar. We've explored some cool places.
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We have as much as we canwith your little hurt foot. Yeah.
Yeah, like I don't have abrace on right now because I haven't been
walking on my foot, but yeah, it's it's definitely impeded our activities.
But we got to visit like arainforest yesterday. We got to be immersed
in all the things twilight because wepassed right through Forks, Washington, which
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was really fun. Let me justtell you that town has leaned into the
twilight and it is awesome. It'sso great. I kind of wanted to
just like stop and spend some timethere, like check out all the things
because there's like little Easter eggs thatyou can find in this town. But
it was really really fun. Therainforest was awesome. I mean, if
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you think you can only find arainforce in the south, guess again,
you can fight it in the north. It's here, an Olympic National Park
in about an hour down the road. You can go watch the sunset on
the beach. Oh. That waswonderful rialto beach, to ride on there
looking du west out over the PacificOcean. Oh, it was incredible.
It was so cool. It wasso cool. I really love your teacher's
voice, like it's it really itreally exudes through the camera when you resume.
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By the way, I'm a retiredteacher music teacher for elementary school.
Here we go. Okay, Papadriver, what are we drinking today?
Oh? Yeah, well we founda really neat wine here yet I guess
it was just yesterday at the Herewe go the Harbinger Winery right here in
Port Angelis. Thank you very much. It's GSM, very very good.
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We had it with steak tonight andit was excellent. It was so good.
It was excellent. So we highlycome in their little winery and we
got to sit out on the patioyesterday and try different wines and at different
flights and all that kind of stuff, and so we chose this for our
stakes tonight. It went great together. But we're not drinking wines, so
what are we drinking? Oh?So we are drinking Colonel Taylor's small batch
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bourbon and fun fact, it's fromKentucky, not Canada. But we haven't
been able to find it anywhere,at least not for a fairly reasonable price.
They had it at the liquor storein Canada. So we were allowed
one leader of alcohol per person tocome back across the border. And this
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is the one that I chose.So there we go. And how much
of that leader has left? Thisis it? We've finished its savor it
while you still can cheer us toCanada cheer cheer. So we're full timers?
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Are you guys full timers? Now? We are not full timers?
Okay? Job, we're kind oflike long part termers. I love it
long part terms. I'm gonna evenremember that term. Okay, So as
long part termers, how long haveyou been doing this forever? Well?
I t kempt as a kid.Then I talked him to a pop up
tim trailer and she started it.I do not know this. I started
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it with you and then okay,I started, and now we have been
through three air streams. We werein our last airstream, which is a
two thousand and nine Airstream Classic thirtyfour foot, which means it's thirty five
feet from bumper to the hitch andit's the longest aluminium trailer that airstream makes.
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So why airstream? Though, likeall over here is how expensive airstream
is. It is and there's nono headroom, like there's no slideouts.
I mean we get that question allthe time, like why would you pick
an airstream? Well, it wasreal simple. We started out with our
first air stream off of eBay andthey have just I just bid on it
on a whim and we we wonthe bid and went to Ohio to pick
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it up and it was gorgeous.We loved it and just fell in love
with the vineage nature of an airstreamand the windows and the yeah, the
windows is the big deal. Thewindows the big deal. And we're not
tall. I mean I'm five eight, she's five something or other five five
five five, you know, sothereby yeah, so we're having the curvature
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of an airstream did not bother usat all, but we love the vineage
nature of the curves. God oursilver Twinkie and you guys don't have so
we've been caravanning. You guys don'thave as much like problems going down the
highway in terms of like you're moreaerodynamic, it's not super super tall.
You can get through some bridges thatwe can't get through, so there's definitely
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some advantages. It's pretty high techfor you girl, I know, Ilen
Lingo. Yeah, No, it'swonderfully. It toes incredible air streams do
toe very well, but especially athirty four Classic lack ours. We have
three axles which makes it toe evenbetter. So it is a dream.
And a five foot closet just forour clothes, amen, But I mean
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in r V standards, that's that'sa big closet. That's pretty big.
Although we've been seeing some of themcoming out now that actually have like two
closets, have you guys. Yeah, So they'll have like one in the
hallway leading back to the bedroom.It's like its own slide out, and
then they'll have one up at thecaps. It's only been unfifthfel so far,
but then they'll have another one upat the cap. So you actually
end up with two closets, isand hers or hers and hers with a
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yeah, that's yeah. I wasjust thinking speaking to that. When we
go to the Tampa r V showthis year, I'm looking forward to seeing
some of the new designs like that, Yeah, that's gonna be cool.
I think they're trying to really likeput some new things in and really spice
up. I mean, there's onlyso many ways you can cut in RV,
but so many more people are doingit longer term. Yes, yes,
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that that's they need more clause space. So I have a prediction to
make for the twenty twenty four Tampar V Show, which is where you
see all of the New Year models, Like that's kind of the big super
show that you see all the NewYear New Year models come out across the
nation, And we're gonna be there, and we're gonna be there, be
there, and you're gonna be there, you guys, if you're if you're
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our vaders and you're gonna be there, you should hit us up. You
should holler at us because we wouldlove to meet up with you while we're
there. But my prediction is,do you remember I think it was a
keystone, but it was that hidehide away office that was like the hidden
office. Yes, I think we'regoing to start seeing a lot more of
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those. More people are working onthe road, more people chilling on the
road. But it's also a nicelike little like bonus room. And so
I think they're going to lean intolike the hide away room that doesn't look
like a room in with more andmore people going full time, like we're
seeing it all the time. Thecampgrounds are getting fuller, it's getting harder
to go where you want to go, and more campgrounds are popping up because
it's pretty profitable. I mean,if you own a piece of land,
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open a campground, we'll come staywith you. So like between all of
that, I mean having an office, having these bunk rooms, having double
closets like this is the evolution ofhow do we allow people? I mean,
the freaking prices of houses are sodang expensive, Like what better than
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something that's actually on wheels and youcan just go wherever you want to go.
Hey, listen, I get totravel the country and sleep in my
own bed every single night doing it. So you can leave, you can
wait, Yeah, you just waittill the next week and they'll leave from
the campgrounds turn over every weekend.Yeah, okay, I'm gonna dial stack
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a little bit, like we gota little off topic, but you said,
what was it? Long term parttimer? I want to know what
is what is a how do youget into long term part timing? Well,
its first office starts with when youdecide to retire. That happened,
and he retired early, and thenI've retired quite a few years later.
So therefore, we as a schoolteacher. The day we checked out,
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we left town. The day Ihad to come back and start in service,
we came back into town. Seeyou part time for like two and
a half three months out of everyyear, your full time for full time?
Yeah full time? You were parttime full timers? Yes, there
we go part time full timers.I like it. So, okay,
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so you started camping how many yearsago? Well, if you go back
to her tent campiness when she wasa kid, if you'd go back to
our pop up tent trailering, it'sbefore he was born, because we did
that when a little when I wasjust a little tiny driver thought in your
head it was I had forty fiveyears ago. Yeah wow, okay,
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So when you upgraded to the actualtravel trailer. You guys didn't start off
with an air stream, right,No, so, how long ago was
that and what did you start offwith? That was about eighteen years ago
and it was called an so obsome other brand. No SOB, it's
actually defined as some other brand thanair Stream. But you know it's a
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glass box. It was, itwas a it was a pioneer. It
was actually perfect for us to startwith, and it works very well for
our transition from a tent trailer toa solid side so so SOB if I'm
picking up on this correctly, SBis what the air streamers call all the
rest of us, the normans.We're soobs. We got like a peek
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into the air streamer world. Doesyour air stream have this massive living room?
No, but we have a classiccurvature that is very very sexy.
I know you every yeah yeah,yeah yeah. So it's all about the
curves when you were in an airstream. So okay, I want to
I want to check a memory.I feel like I was literally in the
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room with you when you bought yourfirst air stream on eBay. He was
in love, Yeah, I wasin love. Yeah, we were getting
in uh your friends, uh computerroom at the time, and you were
looking you were wanting to get ridof the Pioneer, and you were looking
at eBay and and I think thiswas the first time you even set up
an eBay account, if I remembercorrectly. Yes, as a matter of
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fact, account I saw that.I remembered that. I just oh,
that was a funny story. Iremember, like I was standing there and
your friend and at his computer,you're setting up your first eBay account so
you can buy your very first airstream and it worked. We won.
So was that before, because Iknow there was a trip that we went
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with you too, Loveick in thatold Pioneer, and I've been on the
way back we ran out of gas. So was that before or after we
ran out of gas? That wasactually after we ran out of gas.
But that has to do with thetoe vehicle, not the trailer. Yeah,
you made the wrong decision, ifI remember correctly, on your very
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first toe vehicle, and so youwent the other extreme to make sure that
you were set to go, Whichthat allows me to jump ahead and say
one of the very principal things youneed to remember as you get into our
ving is make sure your toe vehicleis more than adequate to pull your trailer,
not just adequate, okay from theexperts. So if we saw these
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gorgeous pictures of a nineteen seventy nineairstream and it looked fantastic career bathroom and
all that kind of stuff, andso we went and bit on it.
Now we won, and then wewent to Ohio to pick it up.
We found the reality that digital pictureslook amazing and we were going to have
to do some work, and sothat's what we did. But in the
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process of doing the extra work necessaryto make it work for us, it
was we fell in love with it. So we at that point wanted to
go to more current air streams versusnineteen seventy nine. Okay, So I
feel like we've just been seeing alot of you guys. Are you guys
following us or something this year?Yes? Okay, all right, all
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right, it's a good thing.We like you guys. Why don't you
guys explain, like how we endedup stalking each other this year? Well,
actually I suggested July the fourth atSteamboat Springs in Colorado because we'd done
it before and it was so muchfun, and they said cool. They
were in the area why not joinus. And then all of a sudden,
our other two daughters and their husbandsand one grandchild all showed up Steamboat
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Springs and we had a blast.We had an amazing time. The whole
family just like converged on this oneplace. And it was so much better
than July fourth last year, becauseJuly fourth last year was really hot.
Yeah, we were dumb. Wedid it in Texas. That's called super
hot. Yeah yeah, yeah.But this year, we we got We
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were sitting and shaded, We werebuddy campers to each other. We had
some in a hotel, some ina cabin. We walked around downtown.
We took a gondala up to thetop of the mountain, hung out there,
had a few drinks, took picturesbecause why not, of course,
And then all of a sudden,we were just having so much fun,
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and then a storm came and theyevacuated us because there was lightning in it,
so we went back down the mountain. But we still have fun.
We played games, we cooked,oh it was, and we went to
the best restaurant they were having aspecial on primary. Do you remember the
name of the restaurant? I don'tremember the name of it. We just
kind of fell into a new yes, so good. Yeah it was downtown,
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but I don't I don't remember thename of the restaurant either. Downtown
Steamboat Springs. Yeah, yeah,yeah, downtown Steamboat Springs of some Falls.
I mean, it was just blast. We had a whole lot of
fun. Yeah, that was blast, the whole family. It was a
way to get together. I likeyou said, we we started the ideas
like, hey, we did Julythe fourth last year altogether in Texas.
It was way too hot. Let'sdo something cooler, colder, that's also
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a cool place to be. Wewent to Steamboat Springs and we all converged,
and I mean just having the entirefamily there that is just so much
fun. I mean, and itwas like forty degrees less than where we
were last year, and it reallyhelped that. It was a buddy site
that you guys have brought that upbefore. Yeah, okay, So so
for anybody who's listening that is justfinanced for the first time telling what buddy
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sites are. Well, it allowsyou to have the door side, or
they call it the curve side ofa camper, both campers facing towards each
other, so that when we walkedout our door, we actually walked towards
their door side of their camper,and we shared the same common space between
our two campers, which for afamily reunion worked out amazing. And this
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wonderful steamboat k Away also had tablesand chairs, so we had enough room
for the whole family to sit inchairs and hang out and talk and just
have a ba last. Yeah,when you take two campsites, you each
kind of have your front lawn andif you turn one of those campers around,
now you've got two front lawns.It's like all the space in the
world. I mean, you couldbe playing all the yard games that you
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could ever want to. Yeah.But okay, so I did get this
question on Instagram, I believe becauseI talked about our buddy camp sites on
Instagram and somebody said, oh,well, you can do that with a
regular camp site. You just havesomebody park the opposite way. Why does
that not work? Real simple,Well, it's not that it doesn't work,
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It just becomes difficult unless you haveprepared for it, meaning or sewer
hose length, extra, water hoselength extra, sometimes even the umbilical cord
for electricity. You may you know, a lot of campus come with twenty
five thirty feet of electrical cord.Well, you may need more than that.
You can run it underneath your camper. But when you start trying to
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turn sites around that we're not designedto be Buddy's sites. You've got to
make sure you have all the extrahardware to make it work. And even
then you have sewer hookups in themiddle of your common space. And you
know, after that, I thinkwe were definitely stocking him because we followed
him over to vernal Utah to seedinosaurs. It was so cool. That
was super cool. I want toI want to call out that I'm really,
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really awesome because as we're planning,I'm really awesome. Super humble too,
Yeah, I have all the humblenessanyone ever needs. Humbleness, not
humility. Okay, So we're sittinghere talking about going to vernal Utah and
the first thing you tell me islike, your dog is very picky about
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where it wants to poop and pee, and so you're like, the campground
doesn't have enough grass, YadA YadAyea, And I'm like, well,
I haven't even looked at it yet, and so I start looking and I
find us a nice campground. Howmuch grass did you have, sir?
We had basically about three or foursoccer fields worth of grass because the campground
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just happened to be beside a publicschool that had soccer fields beside it,
and we had access through a gatethat the park had between the two.
As long as you picked up asyou're supposed to do in campgrounds, and
we did as we were in thepublic school area, our dog had so
much room to zoom and run.She was ecstatic for the entire time that
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we were there. I found yourdog a campground was so much grass that
she could be happy in a citythat is not known for how a lot
of living grass. Well, andlet me tell you, don't look your
nose down on the city campgrounds becauseif you turned into it, you're like,
oh no, what am I gettinginto? And as soon as you
got past the building, it wasa gorgeous It was shaded well, taking
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care of camp round in the middleof the city, so you would not
even think that a campground would bethis good. And it was incredible.
Yeah, and the owners were soincredibly friendly, like apparently I made the
reservation with the son of the ownerand I mean he was just out there
mowing the lawn. When I gotthere, I called the phone number that
the owner picked up. He waslike, hey, yeah, my son's
probably got mowing the lawn. Justpick you know, just drive through there.
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We made sure there's two spots rightnext to you for you and your
dad, just to pick the twothat you like, whichever one's worked for
you and and we're good. AndI was like, this was amazing.
So this is a shout out toBlake at the campground whatever the name of
that camp I'm probably figured out here. Yeah, you probably pull it up,
but the main thing is don't turnyour nose up at city campgrounds.
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Check it out. You never know. Yeah, sometimes Google satellite is really
hopeful. Sometimes it's not here.We couldn't tell. There's too many trees,
that's true. But in the endit ended up being a beautiful campground.
I looked at the photos. Now, you never know how old those
photos are are, and so theymay have had grass at one point.
They don't now. But you justgot to take a chance sometimes and just
look for the best. So itis Fossil Valley RV Park in Vernal,
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Utah amazing campground. It is literallyright in the middle of town, and
it's really easy driving distance to prettymuch everything you want to do in that
area. There you go, thereyou go. Okay. So the reason
we were kind of heading westward isactually for me a little bit. This
was a four year long wait forus to go to Canada. We made
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this plan in twenty eighteen, twentynineteen, Yeah, to go up to
Canada for a conference that I wantedto go to. And actually the plan
was, this was before we hadour camper. I was going to fly
there and you guys were going tocamp out there so that I had someplace
to stay so I didn't have togo to a hotel. And so the
idea was for us to like lineit up so you guys were doing stuff
and I would just fly out andmeet you, stay in your camp er,
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go to my conference, and thenfly back. And then then you
were like, hey, I'll justcome with you and I'll come hang out
and check out your conference. Andso we were Then it became you and
I were going to the conference.Well, then COVID hit and the world
shut down. The conference was shutdown. It's been four years. This
was the first time they got achance to do the conference since then,
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and so I was like, Okay, they're doing it this year. We
are going this year. Do youstill want to come? And so yeah,
so we so we did in Vancouver. It, yes, it was
in Vancouver. So we wanted togo to Canada. So it kind of
a northwestern route. So that's whywe picked Steamboat Springs. That's why we
went to Vernal. We stopped offin Provo together, it was on the
way, but we diverged after Provo. Yes, yes we did. We
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both entered Canada into completely different zones. And I want to talk about the
border crossing to Canada as we were. We were so heavily worned. We
were We're like, okay, weneed to have our our our medical insurance,
our car insurance, our trailer insurance, our dog vaccines. We were
told, you need to make sureshe's like freshly cleaned, because if she's
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sick, like she looks sickly inany way, they may not let her
in. We're like, if shedoesn't go in, we don't go in.
And then like a few in afew weeks beforehand, they're like,
okay, no poultry, no produce. I think the produce has been for
around for a while, but noeggs, no poultry products. Yeah,
so all of this we were tolda couple of weeks beforehand. And what
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did we get asked about when wecame into Canada? So okay, so
and and we got a bunch ofcomments about this. So we we posted
about our experience going through the border, and y'll have a lot to say
about it Facebook, I especially hada lot to say about it. As
of just a few minutes before recordingthis episode, we had almost a million
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views on this particular episode or thisparticular video because you're just very opinionated about
this, which is great, andso we wanted you to reply to it.
But there is some sort of thinghappening with the produce and the poultry
where it's what I liken it too. Is the same concept as campgrounds that
will not allow you to bring firewoodin because there's like insects and things like
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that that are foreign to that environment, to that ecosystem that can like ruin
the crops and ruin whatever's going on. Same thing is happening right now between
the US and Canadas, so theywon't allow you to bring fresh stuff in.
Well, when you're full timers.That means you have to literally deplete
all of your groceries and then buythem new whenever you get in, you
know, get across the sea.That's all it is. They just really
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want the taxes there. I thinkthey actually want to just charge us taxes
on buying everything once we get intoCanada. Well that too, But anyway,
so we were prepared. We wereprepared for those questions. We had
looked up everything. We were preparedto answer the question about like are you
bringing pot in? Are you bringingguns in? Are you like we were
prepared for all of this, likethis laundry list of questions. By the
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way, I want to say,like the day before I was like,
hey, baby, what do youthink about you just driving the trailer and
truck through the border crossing? BecauseI really like somebody starts asking me questions.
I'm not a good liar. Idon't like to lie. It's not
my thing. And so like ifthey asked me a question like I'm gonna
get nervous and I'm just gonna looklike a liar even though I'm actually telling
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the truth, and I'm gonna getus detained. Could you just please drive?
And because I've never driven the truckwhen it's towing. I was like,
uh no, we're gonna answer thequestions and you will be fine.
And so we did. We gotout there the border. The customs agent
was super, super nice, andso he started asking us where we were,
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where we were going, how longour stay, was like all the
typical kind of questions. And thenhe goes, well, where are you
from? And you know, seesour passports and everything, and we're from
Texas, and so he goes,where's your guns? That's all I wanted
to know. We did not haveany guns crossing the border. We would
never do that. We knew therules going into it, and so we
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told him we know the rules,we don't have any with us. And
he asked us a few more questionsabout guns, and then he was like,
all I have a good time.You're good. And so we get
through and we're driving off and we'relike, wait a minute. They didn't
ask us what was in the fridge. They didn't ask us about like any
poultry stuff. They recognized that ourdog was in the car. They he
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didn't ask us any questions about her. He didn't want to see your vaccine
records. Didn't want to see anythingelse, and so we were like,
okay, well that was cool.I was I was like expecting a mid
term exam and we got like apop quiz. So so no complaints there,
you're super nice. It was great. We were there for maybe two
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minutes and that was it, andthen we rolled right through. But what
about y'all's experience away, because wheredid you cross through it? Well,
it's a little bitty town in Montana. I can't remember Shelby, Montana,
so it's like in the middle ofnowhere and we're going into Alberta. And
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he asked us, yeah, basicallywhere you're from type stuff, and then
he the dog. Our dog wasin the backseat, of course in our
dog does not like people. Thedog just sat there and watched him,
didn't bark, didn't anything, andhe asked us about all the poultry questions
and poultry questions. He asked usabout the wine and we said, oh,
we only brought two bottles in becausewe're supposed to, and he goes,
okay, you're good. As theother thing, we actually got a
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storage unit in Washington to put allof our alcohol in expect our alcohol too,
Yeah, put all of all theexcess alcohol in a storage unit while
we're crossing, expecting them to askit's not excess, Well, no,
it wasn't that. It was thestuff we're not on, the amount above
what we're not allowed. I mean, we were in Kentucky last year,
I remember, so we bought somespecialty bourbons, but we did not want
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to lose or have to pay aduty feet one. So we didn't want
to lose our wines exactly, andso they didn't ask about us about it.
They asked them about it. Ithink they did ask us about them
the cannabis or something, because wehad some food the dogs, so in
case she gets anxious, but wehad put them, gave it to them
and all our wines. So theystored our cannabis and our wine that was
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not cannabis. Sorry, she's overhere getting her dog the CBD for sorry
dog. I'm sorry they labeled itlike that. So between the two of
us, we got asked all thequestions. But you got the worst into
that deal. You got all ofthem. It wasn't a terrible deal a
little, and so you got allthe questions about everything else. We got
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one. The one question that wasit because they believed us. I'm like,
okay, they just like okay,we figured it was because of his
gray hair. I think they throwyou. I think they send you questions
just to like throw you off,see if you're lying, and if you're
if they feel like you're not,then they're like, okay, you're you're
cool. But if they feel like, you know, you trip up or
you don't answer a questions the sameway. They actually asked us the same
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question a couple of different times,and we were like, we just told
you, we just told you this, and so we told them again.
But I guess because our answer wasconsistent, they were like, all right,
you're good. Yeah, I meanit's reasonable. Those are great questions
asked like, yeah, we haveno qualms about the questions. It was
just funny that we got one questionand you got all of the other.
Okay, So that was coming intoCanada. So after you posted your your
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video, all of the comments,oh my gosh, every so many,
not all of them, but amajority of them were like, hey,
it's easy getting into Canada. Justwait, just wait till you have to
come back. So tell me aboutyou, tell me tell us about this
coming back experience. Yeah. Yeah, you guys actually crossed before we did.
So you tell us said did youbuy anything in Canada that you need
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to report? And we all now, he goes, okay, and that
was it. That was it.He asked us what do you have in
your refrigerator? And I said,I've got cheese, hot dogs, and
some frozen meat. And his andand the next thing he asked was what
did he he asked something and Iand my response was where's the meat from?
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I think yeah, yeah, Ithink that was And I said all
everything that I still have left inthe fridge was stuff that I bought in
America before I went to Canada.And he was and his response was,
and I love this response, wellsome things lose their citizenship once you crossed
the borre. And so he askedme, okay, what kind of meats
do you have that are frozen?I was like pork beef and he's like
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check, You're good to go.Yeah. That was it. That was
it. That was the only questionwe got asked. Now, I will
say I don't know if this hasanything to do with it. From what
I understand, it could from fromwhat the feedback that you guys have shared
with us on those videos is ifit's really busy at the border, then
a lot of times they'll just kindof roll you through it unless you give
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them a super big red flag.And we waited in line. How long
to even get to the border.Maybe an hour and a half. I
think, yeah, it was along time, So it was busy.
We were together. That was theother thing that he asked us is they
went through right before us. Andthen one of the questions he asked is
like, where are you going next? And so we told him and he
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asked where we where we were from, and so we told him and he
goes, oh wait, and wewere like, oh, yeah, that's
his parents. They just crossed.We're traveling together. That's when we got
the grocery question. And then afterthat he was like, you're good.
Yeah. I think he assumed ifwe were traveling with our parents, we
probably we probably weren't up to nogood. I mean, we might get
grounded, So yeah, we're bringingsomething across that we shouldn't, so you
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know, okay, Papa driver.So I thought it was interesting. Did
you learn how to levitate while youwere in Canada? No? I did
not, And because of that,I took the incredible guidance of the border
crossing individual and he said turn here, turned there, turned that, and
go this way and eventually work yourway out of the parking lot via a
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much better route than how the carswere going, Because no, I did
not. How about you? Didyou learn? No? So actually what
was funny is I actually heard himradio ahead and what he said. What
he said on the radio was blacktruck, really big camper coming through.
And so we drive through their parkinglot and as we're like driving out the
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little there's like a little one lesslittle main gate and I'm like, I'm
I wasn't sure if they were goingto stop me one more time or anything
like that. And they're just likestaring in awe as I passed by,
and they're like, hi, andI guess we do have a really big
camper. Well, I have tosay, even said really long air stream
when we went through, because nottoo many air streams are thirty five foot
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long. That is very good.I heard him say that the really long
air stream, be sure and leftthem through please I got. Well,
what was funny was we also sogoing through the park it was an exchange
of the microphone. Sure, soit was funny though it is going through
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the parking lot. That's actually wherethey stop people though, So if they
detain people and they search you,that's where they stop people. So we
were like, looking, we're stupid. We were like looking around, We're
just waiting for somebody like nope,over there, we're checking you exactly like
we were like, are we reallyare? Because they had people pulled over,
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they had people searching like their theirvehicles and things like that, and
we're like, all right, sois there another checkpoint? And no,
they were. They were were justlike rise that. They were just gawking
at us and like pointing that way. It was fine. You feel like
we won the lottery because we didn'thave to pull over and go through the
body screen. But we had this, you know, the special exit that
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was we didn't have a special exit. So the reason why, and so
the reason we're talking about is basicallywhen you come out the front of it,
there's like they have like these thelike sand filled borders and they create
like this hard turn where like onlylike one car can get through, but
it's like a really hard left turn. I guess it's so people don't just
like race off but because of that, we would have to like turn ninety
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degrees right and then like a onehundred and eighty degrees left around does not
do that in a space that's onlybig enough for one car, and so
it's just impossible. So that's wherethe uh did you learn how to levitate?
Came from. Yes, what wasfunny was so he asked us that
and we were like, what areyou talking about? And then he explained
and he was like, they knowthey already radioed ahead, and so he's
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like, they'll direct to you.And that's when he told us together to
the parking lot. But the questionwas just like what the bottom line is
coming back into the US was avery nice experience, at least for at
least for us. Again, everybody'sexperiences are different. Yeah, okay,
this brings us to Okay, youguys are the honored guest Papa Driver and
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Navigator Gigi. I wanted to askyou to select the pick of the week
for this week. And so whatthe pick of the week is is something
that you really hold to great valueas something to be very useful for other
r viers, whether it's a subscriptionservice, a piece of software, an
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app on your phone, a pieceof hardware or product of some kind,
or just an item that you thinkis really really useful that people wouldn't think
about. So I'm asking you,guys, what you feel like you couldn't
live without the essentially the most underratedRV item that you must have. I
want you to each answer it individually, so you go first. I'll go
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first. Well, actually, Iconsider it underrated because of how often I
only see one on the back sideof a trailer, and that is a
spare tire. The thing about sparetires is once you use it, okay,
it's now on your trailer, andthat means you have no more spare
tires. And so because of that, I'm an advitab believer in having two
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of them, and actually more thanone. I should say more than one.
On two occasions I have had situationswith tread separation that forced me to
change two tires. Another one wasa blowout which caused damage to another tire,
so I had to change two tires. So things have happened where it
was incredibly great to have two sparetires. I also believe in redundancy anyway,
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So just when we came to thiscampground. The doctor I had for
the thirty app did not work well. Because I believe in caring two of
most everything. It worked out perfectly. I had another one. It took
care of the problem and life isgood. So redundancy is my thing,
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which I think is a really goodcall out because you guys have an airstream,
which they are notorious for having limitedstorage, and so the fact that
you say you still need to haveduplicates of these things tells you how important
it actually is to have duplicates ofthose specific things. I don't have two
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spare tires, I don't have twothirty amp converters. I'm just I'm just
I'm failing here. You're just takingthe risk. We're playing on the wild
side. I'll say, you're juston the wild side right now. That's
all I have to say. AndI actually only advocate that because I have
needed too, and so it hascome in handy. And it's not that
you couldn't get by. A lotof campgrounds have spare parts and this stuff
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like that. It's more the ideathat I can all my problems right now
with what I carry, even withmy limited storage, and it really makes
for a much better camping experience.I love it. That's great. So
my biggest thing is is to duplicateeverything in your camper, such as anything
you want to cook with, anythinglike that, any of your special makeup.
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Do not carry from home to camperto home to have it stocked,
have it stocked completely. The onlything new we bring in is our clothes.
We have a second septe, secondseto sheets. Everything is always in
the camper. We will not forget. And that comes down to is a
charger. When I got a brandnew iPad, it's been a few years,
I didn't have a second charger formy iPad. Oh my goodness,
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I love my iPad. So Ihave duplicates of everything that I use constantly
day to day, no matter what, and it stays in the camper.
It never goes in my house.That's actually so that's a great point.
We were full timers. We soldher how everything we have in the camper
is like of our worlding belonging toeverything. It's everything we have. So
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that's not something we would ever thinkof because it's not something that we just
don't have that experience. But that'sactually a really great point that the majority
of campers are not full time.There are part timers in some white shape
or form, And so that's areally good tip to say, Like that
helps you to prevent forgetting anything orgetting stuck somewhere without something. You're like,
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ah, I left it at home. Well, I think it's it's
an interesting concept because you guys arepart time full timers. You guys are
gone for three months of the year. So if you forget something, it's
not like you're gonna be back intwo weeks and years survive with that.
It's not like you can go like, Okay, I forgot some of my
makeup. I'll be fine. We'rejust hanging out in the middle of the
woods and we'll be home in likea week or two at most. Now,
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this is very uniquely your situation asbeing part time full timers, and
I think it's a great call outlike whether you are a part time full
timer, you're a full timer,or you just go the weekend warrior route,
no big deal. Like these arethe concepts that are so useful,
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like having those things that you needwhen you need them, and having duplicates.
I mean, if it can stayin the camper year round, why
not. Yeah, And I mean, I do say this, and we
both say this. There are Walmartseverywhere, but we have been some places
there has not been a Walmart,you know. So you just if you
already have that brand that you likealready in and it's stocked in your camper
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and before you leave your shoe everythingstocked, you don't have to worry.
Well, I think that actually appliesto both of you, because part of
the reason I don't carry around asecondary thirty AM adapter. Well, first
of all, I don't normally becausewe stay places longer than you guys do.
I normally just always book a fiftyM because you just never know when
a heat wave is going to hit, yeah, like this year, this
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year, and so I just alwaysI just I always plan on having a
fifty AMP. But I think partof me is also part of my mindset
is well, there's usually a Walmart, there's usually a camping world. There's
usually like Walmart carries fifty AMP tothirty AMP adapters, so that's easy to
get. But in reality, thetruth is there's not Walmart's everywhere, and
not every Walmart actually has a tonof camping supply. That is very true.
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We can come across several where we'vegone to Walmart to get some like
a new supply or a refresh ofnew new products or whatever we need.
They didn't have what we needed andwe ended up having to go to Camping
World or somewhere else to be ableto get it. I mean, even
RV toilet paper. I know,that's a whole argument. We can all
talk about whether we use our Vtoilet paper or not. We like to
use RV toilet paper personal preference,They use our VY toilet paper. Personal
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prefers. Just use RV safe toiletthat's the main thing. Septics safe.
As long as you're doing that,you're fine. But we use our V
toilet paper because you can usually findit at Walmart pretty easily, but sometimes
you can't. And we were wegot down to our last role and luckily
we were just meeting up with youguys in the steam Road and now we're
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going to Walmart and some toilet paper. Yep. And I also like to
think of it as this is justmy thing about being prepared for anything.
Is the evacuation syndrome thing is Ilike to be able to think that I
can jump in our camper and goanytime, any place if I need to
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with just tossing some food in andas she said, some clothes in.
And so that's another reason why Ilike to have everything in there for that
purpose. So you're saying, PapaDriver is a prepper, very yes,
actually I am because of the armorgedding, but just because I like to
be prepared. Well all the otherthing is so and it's getting more and
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more that the rest of the youknow, lots of parts of the country
or this way, but we've alwayslived in Tornado Alley, and so you
know, it's just naturally kind ofingrained in you that if there's some big
catastrophe or a big tornado that's comingthrough or whatever, you might have to
get out of town really quickly.You know, the ice mcgeddon that hit
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in was a couple of years agotwenty twenty, twenty twenty one where most
of Texas was without something, whetherit be power or water or both in
you know, crazy weather, thatwinter weather that we don't normally have.
It's a big deal. And soyou know, circumstances like that, it's
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actually a really good strategy to havesomething that's prepared to be able to be
like we can hit the road anytimewe need to, and we're ready,
and the trailer is fully stocked.And we all know about wildfires and that's
happening all the time every summer.It seems to be getting worse, and
you don't know when you need topack up and go. We've also had
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situations where you and I were togetherlast January and we had problems with water
at the campground. It's true,Well, I carry a fifty gallon tank
that's full on my camper. Yeah, and so we could take showers at
least that morning. I don't keepmy fresh tankful usually when I'm on a
campground. You're such a risk taker, couldn't I couldn't take my shower until
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the water turn back on. Yeah. Yeah. So bottom line is do
as we say, not as wedo. Like I don't know, do
do what they say. Yeah,we get our best tips eighteen years of
experience right here. Yeah, Iwould go with that one. Okay,
I'm gonna jump in. This isour fan Question segments. So this is
a segment where we essentially take aquestion that's been asked of us on social
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media and we answer it. Sowe're gonna I'm gonna ask the question,
and we're gonna toss around here andwe're gonna see what everybody thinks. Okay,
what was a difference between Canada andUS and the US and uh,
yeah, that you weren't expecting.Well, the one thing I noticed is
that everything Canada is sweeter. Theketchup was sweeter. We went to a
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restaurant that we go in the Statesall the time. It's mostly on the
West Coast. It's the spaghetti Factory. Even the spaghetti sauce was sweeter.
Now, the best thing about thesweet was the A and W A and
deb broke off and debut Canada andWUS and debut Canada. Root beer is
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natural cane sugar, so it's notsuper sweet, but it is like the
old days of root beer. Andif you drink it in the establishment,
you can have it in a frostymug, no ice. Oh it is
so good. Oh that's amazing.So so Canada. You gotta tell me
why you gotta sweet tooth. Itwas funny because even the some of the
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food that we went and had thatwas like supposed to be spicy food and
they would say it had halapineus init, or it had Buffalo sauce.
Our hot. This is our hot. It was not hot except for Nando's.
Nando's actually does get hot. OhNando's. Yeah, but Nando's is
South African, Portuguese influenced food.It's a chain. It actually started in
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South Africa. They had one inVancouver. We ate there the last night
we were there. It was amazing. Yeah, actually spicy when they say
spicy, yeah, it was spicy. Okay, Papa driver, what you
got for us? This might bejust a little controversial, but when we
consider that I am the driver andI have to contend with this, I
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feel like that Canadian bikers are alittle more privileged than American bikers. We've
driven all over the United States anda lot of cities, so quick he
means cyclists. Okay, yes,that is a very good The biker gangs
in Vancouver are really dangerous. Youbetter watch out. No, no,
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Ryan is totally accurate on that beat, the cyclist. They have bike lanes
everywhere, and I'm not sure whathas gone on in Canada concerning their rights
and everything, but they actually kindof drive like they own the roads.
They don't stop at stop signs,They do whatever they want to do,
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and they know that it's up tous, as you know, hard side
vehicle drivers to avoid them, andwe would be at fault if we hit
one of them. But it wasjust that there was a constant barrage of
bicyclists coming at us from all directions. In the United States, there's bicycle
lanes, there is cyclist but theyseem to be a little more conservative and
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less aggressive or less or they feelless entitled to the entire road that we
felt as I felt as a driverin Canada. Well the other thing too,
So yeah, as a driver,absolutely the bicyclists have the right of
way. It did clog traffic anumber of times, but I think the
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bigger issue there was the bicyclists evenand it seems to be the local bike
cyclists, not the tourists, butthe local bicyclist feel as though they have
the right of way with pedestrians aswell. So you guys had an experience.
So we were on this bridge towatch the fire, So we were
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there during the celebrational lights and sowe were the bridge had a little section
for bike riders, cyclists and pedestrians, and we were in the pedestrian area
to watch the fireworks and we werejust standing there and oh my gosh,
most of the bicyclists came by.They you know, they hollered at us,
let us know they were coming.No big deal. But this one
dude just screamed at the top ofhis lungs and we need to get out
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of the way. Now. Wewere in the pedestrian side, like it's
clearly marked for pedestrians. I knowsome of you were like, well,
you're just standing there, that's forwalking. There were no other pedestrians there.
We weren't in the way. Wewere off to the side as close
as we could. I you know, again, I think the worst of
it was I was coming back fromthe conference, and or maybe it was
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when I was going to the conference. I don't remember, but I was
driving on this one road and Imean, these cyclists would like zoom right
by these pedestrians again on these littleshared areas, and I mean they were
almost knocking the pedestrians over. Thatwas the worst of it. Wasn't how
much the cyclists were affecting me orother drivers or when we were just standing
on the bridge. It was morelike how they were treating the pedestrians like
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you're on a cycle. On abicycle, you have all the speed and
momentum and energy. You're going tobe the one who hurts somebody at Stanley
Park. When we were walking aroundStanley Park, yeah, they have a
very designated bicycle lane and they havea designated walking area. We were in
the walking area, but the bicyclistswere going faster than the cars around Stanley
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Park. Yeah. That's the otherthing is like there's speed limits for all
the cars that we have to observe, but the cyclists they don't have a
well okay you can't. Actually youactually can get a sphenometer for your cycle
bicycle, but most of them probablydon't or whatever. But the problem is
is if they're going that fast,they're going over the speed limit. They're
causing just as many issues as ifa car went that fast. Well,
the locals were actually talking about itthat it's it's become kind of an issue,
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and Stanley Park in particular, andthey were talking about how there was
a lane that was designated for cars. There was like I think two lanes
that were designated for cars. Thenthey switched to now it's a bike lane,
and that's become more cumbersome where youcan't even get through and it's impeding
traffic, and so they switched back. So they voted to switch they voted
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to switch back, but the problemis they can't afford the funding to like
actually implement the switch, so it'sjust kind of sitting there. But it
seems to be an issue because wetalked to several of the locals and they
also agreed with us that it's becomea bit of a traffic jam. So
yeah, that's totally fair and completelyan unexpected thing. Now, I will
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say it's probably not something that's prevalentin all of Canada. It was specifically
prevalent in Vancouver, but definitely anunexpected thing in Canada. Oh, I'm
gonna move as along, Kara,what was your most unexpected thing in Canada?
Tiny sinks? Okay, legit solike our truck, tiny sinks in
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the ground. No, no,no, So every time we went to
a public bathroom, and whether itwas a restaurant or one of the parks
that we went to, or likeanywhere that we went, if you went
to a public restroom, the sinkswere like half the size of what they
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are in the US. And soI was really trying when I was washing
my hands, I was really tryingnot to splash water all over the floor
because I just wasn't used to it. So it was interesting to me.
I am not used to tiny,tiny sinks as as are too damn fat.
It's not reminded me of the railroadcar sinks or airplane sinks. Yeah
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yeah, or r V sinks.I mean I was kind of bright at
home, so it wasn't that biga deal. But at the same time,
it was like some of those werepedestal sinks, and so they did
splash everywhere. Uh So, Ryan, you haven't told us what is the
most surprising thing for you about ourtrip to Canada? What are the differences
between Canada and the US. Well, this is not really a difference between
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Canada and the US. As muchas it was it was very unexpected.
So growing up in science classes,we would we would do all of our
experiments and we talk about all thenumbers in the metric system. So obviously
here in America we use miles perhour when we're talking about speed, not
the metric system, right, correct, Yeah, not in the metric system.
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But when we in science class,we would actually talk about things like
in kilometers, in kilograms and yetin dars. Yeah. Yeah, we'd
use all of those things. Andso one of the when we would talk
about speed, we would talk aboutkilometers per hour, and we were when
we were talking about acceleration, wetalked about kilometers per hour squared. So
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we when we would write it out, we would write kph or kph squared.
When we got to Canada, itwasn't kph. It was kmh kilometers
slash hours. So they so itwas. It was kind of it just
threw me off. It was likethis weird like dichotomy of like I'd always
thought kph that's all. I alwaysunderstood the designation for speed when you're talking
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the metric system, the short designation, but in reality it was just km
slash h. And I was like, I mean, it makes sense,
it's it doesn't like, it's notwrong. It just threw me off mentally
to sit here and look at kmhinstead of what they expected kph. Yeah,
they do the slash, but theslash is silent because it wasn't shown
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anywhere. But no slash was shown, not everywhere. Really, Oh I
didn't even notice that. So atthe camp ground they and there was some
other play. Maybe it was Okay, don't want me to it, but
I thought it was Stanley Park.Maybe I'm wrong, but for sure at
the camp ground. Then there wasone of the place that they had the
kilometers per hour painted on the actualstreet because it was supposed to be really
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slow and it had k m h. There was no slash at all.
Oh, at least all of theirofficial signs up on the road had the
km slash H. Dare in AmericaR say mpah slash. And then,
like I said, when when Iwas in high school, in like physics,
we would talk about things if wewrote it down, it was acceptable
to write kph to designate kilometers perhour, so that everyone because you did,
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you always had to write what thethe measurement was. If you didn't
write the measurement, that was agreat way to lose points. And so
kph was the expected way to saykilometers per hour. But nope, in
Canada. I don't know about Britainor any of the other countries that use
a metric system, but in Canadathey use km slash H. Hey,
TikTok, what's going on? Well? Who we got? Who we got?
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With? TikTok. Any any responsesso far, any updates, any
messages. kJ Is just was tellingus about the lakes. Uh, if
you hit the providence, we havepolar bears where they can swim on nice
as well as seals. Uh.He gave us a link for the parks.
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And what was your favorite food slashdrink in Canada? Real quick?
Oh? Favorite? Well that wasa good question Canada. No. I
was just excited about the seafood thatwe had in Vancouver. Yeah. I
was thinking the same, especially therestaurant that we all late at that one
afternoon near what was the name ofthe area they the place of the market,
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Oh, Granville Island. Yeah,yeah, Granville Island, the Vancouver
like fish market down there, likeright on the island as soon as you
get to the little rest on there. Amazing seafood. I really liked the
was it? I think it wascrab and shrimp poutine. Oh yeah,
that was delicious. Yeah, thatwas incredible. I would have to go
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between either of the B fifty twothat we had at breakfast oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, or one Ihad it at the Irish one that had
jamison whiskey, cold brew cream andooh my something. It was so good.
That was me. I know herthe recipe. Yet, maybe it'll
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become a camper cocktail. We'll see. I don't know that I can shoot.
I was gonna say the seafood,but then, like everything else they
else said, I was like,oh, yes, it's hard to it's
hard too. Yeah, I don'tknow that I can pin it down,
but yeah, I mean we're rightthere on the coast. So and I'm
a sucker for seafood as well,so i gotta say seafood. Well,
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and there's actually one, you know, I said. We did Calgary,
bath and Vancouver and the multi nationalaspect of Vancouver. They talked about that
the tour bus. Yeah, thatVancouver is a melting pot for like sort
of like New York is for usin the States, and they had that
in Vancouver. And because of that, all the different ethnic foods that we
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could get there, including the SouthAfrican Portuguese type of food that we had
there. There was an incredible varietyof food. Yea, the sushi restaurants
for you know, on every corner. It seemed like. Yeah. So
from that standpoint, I was surprised, but and very and enjoyed the variety
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of food in the Vancouver, BritishColumbia area. Yeah, shout out to
our Texans of the North Alberta.Yeah. Yeah, bison tartar. Yeah,
oh the bison. Okay, Sothat was at the secret of his
name was Vancouver Seafood Restaurant or VancouverSeafood Market. It's literally right there on
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Grandville Island, like you pass underthe neon lights and it's there on your
left on the seaside. But theyhad the bison tartar. Oh, that
was incredible. And our waiter wasfrom Alberta and he was awesome. Oh,
the best waiter ever. Yeah,Texas of the North guy, you
guys are incredible. And yeah,the bison tartar was on the menu because
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of him, and he did notsteer us wrong. It was awesome.
Well, thanks for the questions wegot you. Hey, friends, thanks
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slots are in Canada, especially Vancouver, Oh my gosh. We were like,
oh gosh, I could reach outand touch our neighbors. And everybody
in Canada rents. I know.There were so many of the can Americas
and the Cruise Canadas, and likeall the different rental companies, they all
were there at our campground, comingin and out almost every other day.
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Yeah. Of course, now wealready talked about how busy Vancouver is,
but you know, their rush hourstarts at two in the afternoon, and
their growth in Canada right now issuch that they're a tremendous amount of construction
on the highways, oh my goodness. And it's not just a regular seasonal
construction. There is a lot ofexpansion going on in both Vancouver and Calgary,
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where y'all getting all these jobs,y'all are getting off at two o'clock in candidate