December 6, 2024 • 27 mins
The Wands and Wishes podcast dives into the exciting details of Disney's newest cruise ship, the Disney Treasure, which recently made its media debut and is now setting sail from Florida. Hosts Tony Desiere and Lauren Mallard discuss what families can expect from this Triton class ship, highlighting its unique features and dining experiences, including a Coco-themed restaurant and an interactive dining experience inspired by Marvel. They share their personal experiences with Disney cruising, emphasizing the ease and enjoyment it offers for families, especially those overwhelmed by theme park crowds. Additionally, they touch on the ship's design inspiration, its capacity, and the magical touches that make Disney cruises stand out. With a mix of anticipation and nostalgia, they explore how the Disney Cruise Line continues to innovate and elevate the cruising experience for all ages.
Takeaways:
- Disney's newest cruise ship, the Disney Treasure, offers unique dining experiences themed around popular movies.
- The Triton class ship can accommodate 4,000 guests, providing a spacious cruise experience.
- Disney cruises cater to families, offering something for everyone without the usual park crowds.
- The Treasure features stunning design elements influenced by the classic film Aladdin.
- Rotational dining on Disney cruises allows guests to build relationships with their serving team.
- The upcoming Moana show on the Treasure promises to be a fantastic entertainment option.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Disney
- Disney Cruise Line
- Carnival
- Royal Caribbean
- Norwegian Cruises
- Epic Universe
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It's another episode of theWands and Wishes podcast.
I'm Tony Desiri, along withall the magic travels.
Lauren Mallard.
Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
We are going to be talkingabout Disney's newest cruise ship,
the Disney Treasure, whichmade its sort of media debut a couple
of weeks ago and now issailing out of Florida on seven day
trips.
We're going to talk about whatyou can expect on the Disney Treasure,
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not only the rest of thisseason, but in 2025 and beyond.
How are you, Lauren?
How was your Thanksgiving?
It was good.
How about you?
Good times, good time, goodweek of fun.
Had daughter home from collegeand good times, good times.
So I am really excited aboutthis because I like talking to you
about cruise ships becauseyou've been on seven Disney cruises
and I've been on zero.
And I said in the last podcastwhen we talked about cruising, I
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wasn't a big cruiser for years.
And then finally my likeparents did this like family reunion,
celebrate dad's birthday on a cruise.
And now I'm hooked.
So I went this big chunk oftime from my honeymoon to like 2019.
Not really big on the cruising thing.
And now I've done it's if youcould be beyond 180, I'm 1, I'm beyond
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180, I'm cruising.
I love it.
Yeah, it's, it's really one ofthose things that I tell people all
the time and especially whenit comes to Disney cruising, if you
have somebody in your familythat it gets overwhelmed with the
parks or just really doesn'twant to do the whole walking around
all day.
The cruise is such a goodoption for families because it gives
something for everybody to do.
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The kids can have fun, theadults can have fun, the families
can come together at night andhave dinner.
All your food is included.
It's just such an easy way to vacation.
And I tell people this a lot.
I said, listen, even though Ihaven't been on one, I can tell you
that I know that sometimespeople will see pictures of the parks
and they see the huge crowdsand there's a little bit of anxiety
that comes.
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Like, I really want to do thisfor my family.
I think there's some Disneymagic my kids want to have.
But my gosh, I don't want tostand in these lines and I don't
want to go when it's crowded.
And my vacation is wheneverybody else is on vacation.
And these cruise ships havesuch a big touch of Disney magic
that without the 60 minutewait to ride Haunted Mansion that's
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right.
You can still get that feeling.
That's right.
So Disney Treasure, they havethis big media event now.
Everyone gets to see what'sinside the boat.
It's a Triton class ship.
So it's gigantic.
4,000 people can be on thisboat from somebody who's been on
Disney cruises.
How did you see this ship?
How does it compare to the Wish?
How does it compare to otherboats that the Disney Cruise Line
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has?
Yeah.
So the Treasure is going to bethe same class ship that the Wish
is.
And so they call them sister ships.
You've got the Dream and theFantasy that are considered your
Dream class ships.
And you've got the Magic andthe Wonder that are considered the
classic ships.
The Magic class, I think, iswhat they call those.
So they're going to be thesmallest, smaller ones.
And then you have.
Now what's your mid size isthe Dream and the Fantasy.
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And so the Treasure, while itshould be very similar to the Wish
in layout, the design is goingto be so different.
So what I've seen from it andwhat I have been told by people that
have been on board theTreasure already is just people that
aren't normally wowed by thedesign of a cruise ship have said,
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this is just gorgeous.
And I just, I think thatthey've really, they, they've put
out something different thananything that they've put out before.
Now the one thing I saw wasthat it's kind of this, this theme
around Aladdin.
There's a little bit other,there's some other influences from
the movies.
Now is that Con, is that athing that every ship has a different
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sort of motif or design in the foyer?
Yeah.
And it really was upped morewith the Wish, I think, because when
they came out with the Wish,she really had more of a royal theming,
whereas the other ships, theyall have a different look to them.
But I wouldn't necessarily saythey have a particular theming.
Each one of them has adifferent statue in the main atrium
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and a different character onback of the ship, things like that.
But then they've really takenthis whole theming to another level
now with the princess designof the Wish making it feel very royal.
And now with the Treasure withAladdin and Jasmine and making it
feel very.
Just with all of those jeweltones and everything that's on, on
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board there, just giving itthat, that whole vibe.
Yeah.
And here's the interesting.
I think I said this on thelast podcast we talked about Cruising
is if you go back into thehistory of the company, right.
So you've got Walt with hisdaughter and he goes to this, like,
amusement park.
Like this sort of carnival.
Yeah.
On a.
On a seaside something.
And he goes, this isn't reallyfamily friendly.
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And I'm trying to think of away to make a place that I can take
families to.
And he sort of creates notsomething unique in a theme park
or an amusement park that hadalready existed, but a theme park.
Right.
So he, he comes up with thisdesign and he goes, this is how we're
going to run it.
And in the end, an animationcompany that's making cartoons and
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movies becomes a leader in thetheme park industry.
When they get into the cruisebusiness, you're looking at Carnival
and Royal Caribbean andNorwegian Cruises and they've got
a big chunk of the industryand they know how to do it.
They've gone through all ofthe things you can do and you can't
do things that work, thingsthat don't work.
And they're getting into abrand new business and they go out
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and they hire people that knowthe business and they create these
incredible ships that.
And so it didn't take as longof a learning curve.
Right.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, you didn't get into it blindly.
They go, let's go poach somepeople that know how to do this job.
Yeah.
You know, and build theseships out.
So that's one of the things,when I see these ships, I go, goodness.
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Like they're, they're in aposition to advance the ship.
Like, like you see with RoyalCaribbean, they've got Icon of the
Seas now, this gigantic ship.
But Disney's version of thatis something like you see in the
Treasure.
That's right.
It's something, it's different.
So you're not going to get aship as grand as what you're going
to get on Royal Caribbean orsome of the offerings that you find
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on there, which there are afew things that I wish they would
take from some of these cruiselines because there are some things
that I think Disney could use.
But if you look at it from anapples to orange perspective and
say the Disney Cruise Lineexperience is a totally different
product than Royal Caribbeanor Carnival or Norwegian, because
you are getting such anelevated experience as a whole as
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a family on board.
Disney Cruise Line.
Yeah, because I've been on anumber of different cruises.
I've been on three majorcruise lines and I have never done
rotational dining like theyhave on Disney cruises.
Yeah, that's a really coolseat in every night for dinner, you
know, in the same room.
And the idea that you get togo with your serving team every night,
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you don't just have a randomserver that's taking care of you.
You get these people that getto know you, that find out what you've
done for the day.
They tell you ideas of whatyou can do the next day and what
their favorite things to do onthis particular port that we're going
to be added.
And so it really helps you tobuild that relationship with the
different crew members thatare on board.
And, you know, I have peoplethat'll say, you know, oh, well,
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I want look for so and so onthe Disney Dream next time because
I got to know them on the lastcrew and these crew members, they,
they stay on these ships foryears at a time sometimes.
And so that's, that'ssomething really special in the whole
experience.
It is amazing too, because inan age of Tik Tok and Instagram and
whatnot, like cast members atthe parks, cast members are becoming
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like mini celebrities.
They really are.
If you go, if you go to thisride, make sure you see Joe or you
go, go see Sally at the candy store.
She's been there for 25 years.
Right.
Making all sorts of goodiesfor all this time, that kind of thing.
And they become like instant celebrities.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, on thatnote, I'll be sailing the Treasure
next fall with my family.
And I already reached out,which I was reaching out for another
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reason to one of our favoriteservers who was on the Dream.
And he actually said, oh,well, I'm opening the Treasure and
I plan to be on there next fall.
Oh, great.
Yes.
I've already put in a requestfor our favorite server for next
fall who served us a coupleyears ago.
That's fantastic.
So, all right, so let's get tosome of the things on the Treasure
that kind of opened my eyes.
First of all, I again, theminghas always been great.
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Right.
Whenever they do something andit, and they build it around an attraction
or they build it around ashow, it can be really eye popping.
So the first thing I want toget to is the three restaurants that
are on the ship.
One, 1923.
The other one is this sort ofMarvel Universe sort of restaurant
and then this cocoa themedrestaurant which I want to get to
first because that looks.
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That looked the most uniquedining room setting I've seen on
a cruise ship in all thecruise ships.
Yeah, it really is.
And it's something thatDisney's never done before.
So this is and you know, thecocoa theming hasn't really started
up yet really with a lot ofthe Disney parks and with the cruise
ships.
Right, Obviously with thecruise ships.
But this restaurant andanother thing that Disney hasn't
really done yet is Mexican food.
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Like they haven't reallystepped into that space on the cruise
ships yet.
And they're going to have afull Mexican menu and this in this
restaurant.
And I think that it's so exciting.
And it's going to have a stage show.
It's going to be very similarto what I understand the Arendelle
show is like on the Wish.
That's what they were sayingit was.
It's, it's, it mirrors it in a way.
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But there it's like the sameexperience, different characters,
different music.
But if you've experiencedthat, you're going to get that similar
feeling.
That's right.
In this show.
Yeah.
And you know, I think it's.
It's something that's going tobe really neat.
A.
My kids have never watched Coco.
That I'm.
That I understand.
I know I have never watched it.
And so that's something we'regoing to have to really get into
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before we get on the shipbecause I'm excited about this restaurant.
Oh, it looked, it looked fantastic.
Yeah.
Now 1923, is that on an.
Is that on other ships?
It is.
Cuz I, I heard they said theyreplicated it.
Yes.
So both 1923 and Worlds ofMarvel are both on the Wish.
So you're going to have the.
The same three restaurants ina sense, since they're the same class.
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So that's where we're finding.
Plaza de Coco is going tomirror Arendelle and then you have
the other two that are goingto be same.
I don't know whether the menusare going to be the same.
I assume that they are, but wehaven't seen the menu pictures yet.
Now 1923 is, is sort of atribute to Walt and Roy.
Yes.
And sort of taking you back alittle bit in time.
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A lot of artifacts, a lot of.
A lot of animation palettes,if you will.
Sort of those sort of feelinglike you're walking through the history
of what the company was whenit first got started.
That's right.
So all right.
Now the Marvel.
Is there an interactiveelement to that dining room?
So that is something I'm notreally sure.
I think that there someinteraction, but not to the extent
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that Arendelle or that Plazade Coco on the Treasure will be.
But I have heard that Worldsof Marvel is actually kind of loud,
so I don't know if it's one ofthose types of restaurants, like
what Animators Palette is on,the Dream and the Fantasy, where
you have somewhat of aninteractive screen type situation.
But I haven't been on theWish, so I'm really not sure exactly
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what that experience is like.
All right, so now let's get tothe one thing that really makes me
want to book a cruise on theTreasure, and that's the Haunted
Man.
I knew you were going to go there.
This is something.
I think I've been kind ofyelling this out for 15 years.
Do something with the hauntedmansions within the park.
It is begging for a restaurant.
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It is begging for a different experience.
And I've said, I don't care ifyou put it in California, if you
want to put in Orlando, great.
But it's such an incredibletheme for something other than the
ride.
And I know the gift shop isfine, but that I expect.
But now they've kind of doneit with this, like seeing the videos
of people who walk in thereand seeing the ghost suit in the
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mirror and all the differentcocktails and just the.
It's exactly what I wanted outof a, out of a place in the parks.
I want that in the parks.
The pictures look sofantastic, and I don't know, and
you may already know theanswer to this, but are the cast
members in there going to actlike the cast members at the Haunted
Mansion?
I think so, yeah.
Because at least they did insome of the media things that I saw.
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Okay.
You know, I.
So I don't know if they werehamming it up for the media event
and that's the way it's goingto be.
But I, I would assume thatthey would be saying, like, come
in here and, and, and be partof this.
This is what this is about.
Oh, I can't wait.
I think it's going to be somuch fun.
There's also a Jungle Cruiseedition, a sort of a lounge area
as well, where you can go in there.
So I, I think that they'vetaken two very iconic, longstanding,
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you know, attractions thathave been within the parks for a
very, very long time and said,while we have the new stuff, while
the kids are excited about thenew stuff, you all remember these
rides from when you were kidsor these, these rides that continue
today.
Here's something for you guysto enjoy as well.
That's right.
And another thing with theTriton class ships, that's, that's
something else that they kindof did with the Wish, they have a
Star wars lounge on the Wishand they have Nightingales that's
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more themed on the Wish.
Whereas on the Dream Class andthe Magic class ships, you have fantastic
lounges, but not done to thetheming that this new class of ships
is doing.
It's funny that you mentioned,I wanted to ask you because of all
the, all the times you've beenon Disney cruises, how much if I
had a stew, how much isoriginal Disney stuff?
And then the Marvel and theStar Wars.
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If I don't care for Star wars,am I inundated with that a little
too much on some of these?
Like, how does it work withthe ip?
Absolutely not.
So that's a good thing.
As far as the sailings thatare Marvel Day at Sea or Star Wars
Day at Sea or Pixar Day atSea, you're gonna get a little more
peppered in there.
But if you're not, you act.
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We actually don't get any Starwars characters for the most part
on most of the ships.
Now, I have seen that Rey isgoing to be on the Treasure.
So that is going to be anaddition, I think, to the Treasure
on a normal sailing.
Other than that, to be honest,there's a Star wars section in the
kids club, but really you'renot going to feel at all like you're
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immersed into an ip,especially not with Marvel.
You're really not going to seethat they have added the new Marvel
section to the Disney DreamKids Oceaneer Club.
But other than the Kids Kidsclubs, if you're not on one of those
days at sea specifically, thenyou're not going to feel like that.
All right.
Staying with the food, becauseagain, we talked about the dining
room, but then there's,there's the buffet, but then there
are these like little kiosks.
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Yes, the Festival of foods.
Yeah, Festival of foods.
Like this barbecue, smokestackand what is it?
Goofy's Pizza or whatever.
It may be like, different.
Now that's something that Idon't see on other cruise ships.
I don't.
I see maybe a pizza standbecause late night pizza is always
a thing, but I don't see aplace to like grab barbecue.
Now I've been on a cruise shipthat had burgers.
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Like, I've had.
I've gone to different.
Like one had a taco stand, butnothing like a.
Like a courtyard.
Like at a mall.
Yeah.
Like, where you have thatfeeling of like, this room is dedicated
to like five different food locations.
Yeah, they've really upped thegame on the pool deck.
As far as being able to havedifferent offerings, you're gonna
have your standards, yourchicken tenders, your hot dogs, your
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burgers.
But like you said, if youwant, if you don't want to have to
go into Marceline Market,which is the buffet, which is going
to be what we've talked aboutbefore, pretty chaotic, right?
Every day of the ship or ofthe sailing, then go and make a barbecue
bowl or make tacos or aburrito bowl.
There are so many options.
And these are available allday long from lunch until late night.
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So even if you've already hadlunch, go out there, get a little
bite and have a snack.
All right, so now this is justa Treasure is just going on seven
day cruises for the nearfuture, right?
For the foreseeable future.
From what I understand, all of 2025.
That's correct.
From Port Canaveral.
So whether changes, I don't know.
But it looks like it is alarge ship going on larger vacations
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than a quick three day jaunt.
That's right.
And you can look at thedifferent itineraries.
There's a Western Caribbeanseven night sailing as well as an
Eastern Caribbean seven night sailing.
So you can look at thedifferent ports, see what's going
to interest you and yourfamily more.
Depending on the dates thoseare going to change obviously.
But yeah, it's a fantasticitinerary to get on this seven night.
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Be able to see three to fourdifferent ports usually or always
actually that's going toinclude a visit to one or both of
the private islands.
Typically one of the private islands.
All right, now they talkedabout this Lion King theater, but
it's different than theregular theater.
Is that where all the playsand shows are?
Is there a smaller theater onthese boats?
So there are two theaters on,on the, on the, on the other ships.
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But I'm not sure with theTreasure how that's going to work.
But on the Dream and theFantasy, there is the Buena Vista
Theater and the Walt Disneythe theater and where you're going
to go to the Walt DisneyTheater for your shows.
Whereas the Buena VistaTheater is going to have things like
the movies and differentthings that you can go watch.
So I haven't looked into whatis going to be offered in the two
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different theaters other thanI do know that the, the feature show
on this ship is going to beMoana, which is.
Which I think is going to be fantastic.
And so look ahead and seewhat's going to be on the different
itineraries.
As far as the Shows areconcerned you're not going to get
a feature show every night,especially on these seven night sailings.
You're going to get somethinga little smaller on some of the nights.
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But typically like on the Wishright now there is Frozen as well
as the Little Mermaid.
And so for a seven nightsailing, I expect us to get something
else that might be a Disneyclassic in addition to Moana.
And then you might have one ofthe other classics from the other
Disney Cruise line ships,something like Disney's Believe or
the Golden Mickey, which a lotof people are familiar with on other
sailings.
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So like I said before, Imissed this window of time because
I just wasn't a cruiser.
So I had the kids and we'd goto Disney, we'd go down to Florida,
and cruising was just notsomething we even considered.
Yeah.
Now they're gone and incollege and we're empty nesters.
And I keep telling my wife,we've got to do a Disney cruise just
to do it.
That's right.
And she goes, I don't know.
I mean, it's kids, I get it.
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And I told her, I said, lookwhat on the other boats, okay, so
Disney doesn't have on theboat, on their boats, the two things
you don't do anyway on acruise ship.
You don't gamble and you don'tgo to art shows.
So like, you don't do both ofthose things.
Everything else that you dowhen we go cruising you can do on
a Disney cruise.
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That's right.
There's so much for adults toenjoy whether you have kids or not.
And I've said it before, ifyou don't want to see kids, you don't
have to.
You don't have to.
Exactly.
And I've had just as much fun.
I've done two adult onlysailings on Disney Cruise Line and
I had just as much fun onthose as I did with my kids.
Yeah, so I'm, I'm, I'm workingon it.
I'm working on it.
We're going on a RoyalCaribbean in March, but I'm working
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on that Disney cruise.
That's right.
I got to do it before.
Do it next.
Do it next.
So real quick, again withthese boats.
I tell this story a lot.
When I first got into sports,sports broadcasting, I was first
down in the business.
I covered NASCAR and the NewHampshire International Speedway
where I grew up and had myfirst job.
They had their first NASCARrace in 1993.
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And over the years that Icovered that sport, I started noticing
how very Efficient.
They were.
They're trying to get 80,000people into seats in a very small
town.
Yeah.
Really small town in NewHampshire that just didn't have the
infrastructure for it.
And when I probed about howthey did it, the first thing I said
was, well, we took ourexecutives to Disney, and they said,
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disney has this program, like,where they will teach you how they
do it.
Wow.
They teach you how to movepeople in, how to flow people, and
how to provide service that is exceptional.
Like, I would.
Every time I would go, peopleknew who I was.
They would.
They.
My name was in a picture book.
It was, like, kind of neat.
Like, this is how they did it.
Yeah.
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And we go back to the thing Iwas saying about the cruise industry.
Like, a lot of times you go onthese cruise ships and you don't
feel that connection, butDisney has already established themselves
as a company that figures outhow to just get.
How to make it streamline, the efficiency.
You're absolutely right.
Yeah.
You know, and so that's one ofthe things that I'm kind of looking
forward to seeing is a lot oftimes I've gone on these cruises
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where I've said, well, this,this, this, and this.
You know, I love the cruise.
It was fun, but I had problemswith my.
My parents just went on one,and I.
I said, how'd you like it?
Oh, we had a great time.
And then my father wentthrough a list of complaints that
made me go, did you have agood time?
I'm like.
I'm trying to remember, like,early when we started this conversation,
you said you had a blast.
And now you've picked apart,like, five things.
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And they all really had to dowith customer service.
They all really had to do withnot being able to resolve a conflict.
Sure.
And I.
And I would got to think thatthere are some conflicts that you've
had in Southern cruises thathave been rectified as quickly as
they possibly can.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's another thing thatI think sets Disney apart is I will
say I was in a resort withinthe last six months or so that had
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some problems in the room thatI asked to be taken care of.
Well, in four to five days,those were never resolved.
So when I was on Disney CruiseLine last month, we had an issue
with one of the lights notturning on.
And literally within 30minutes, they had someone there and
they had fixed it, and it was.
It was never a problem again.
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So it's.
They know they have a processfor different things.
And I'm not sayingeverything's going to be perfect.
Because it's not.
But I think if you go about itthe right way and if you're polite,
they do, they do know how tohelp and they can help their guests
and they want to help their guests.
That's exactly right.
And I've always said, I'vetold people many times, like, the
squeaky wheel gets the grease,but the really nice squeaky wheel
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will get even more grease.
Yeah.
Like, if you really go after.
Like we talked about this onmy, my wife and I's trip when there
was a lot of problems atHollywood Studios and rides were
breaking down and you feltlike I wasted a day because the main
attraction, Rise of theResistance down.
Slinking the dog's dash is down.
Aerosmith roller coaster is down.
All of this is down.
And people were really angry.
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The angry people kind of got,well, this best I can do is this.
Yeah.
My wife and I got a free parkhopper pass and a free go to Magic
Kingdom and have a good time.
That's why we fix this stuff.
And come back later if you want.
That's right.
Lesson learned.
You've got to present yourself.
And I have to tell myself thata lot of times because I can kind
of bulldog a little bit, but,you know, but you got to be able
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to present yourself.
Chris always tells me, you getit, honey is sweeter or whatever
the saying is.
He reminds me of that all the time.
And so you're right.
Absolutely.
It makes a difference.
When we were in 2012, we werestaying at Art of Animation and we
were in the.
Not.
Was it Lion.
I think it was Lion KingSuite, whatever it was.
And we, we woke up and the airconditioning wasn't working and everybody
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had a miserable night sleeping.
I put in a work, you know, Icalled up work order, said, hey,
we're going to the parkstoday, but our air conditioning is
out.
We came back, the room was on fire.
Like as soon as we walkedthrough the.
We walked through.
No one had fixed it.
Oh no.
So we called up again and theysaid, yeah, we've had some problem.
But they had like three peoplecome to the room to help us pack.
And then they sent us to theCars suite.
Wow.
On the other side of the thing.
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And so it was kind of neatbecause I got to experience two different
themed rooms, you know, on aweek long trip.
It was kind of neat.
And they, they were all veryhelpful along the way.
So that's pretty great.
So the treasure again, you'regoing, what, October?
Yeah, next October.
Like about.
What is it?
Ten months.
That's right, Exactly.
It's no longer over a year.
Yeah, exactly.
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I can't wait to talk aboutthat when you come back in 10 months.
Yeah.
We do want to get to someother bits of news because we touched
on it two weeks ago and thatis the rumors were right.
Aerosmith roller coaster isturning into Muppets.
Yeah.
You know, I'm actually excitedabout it.
I'm kind of excited too.
I don't know, like, I don'tknow the business of it.
And I, I actually tried tolook this up and it's a.
It's an Internet secret, whichis hard to keep secrets on the Internet.
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But I, my.
I googled.
How much was Disney payingAerosmith for the licensing for that
ride?
Ride?
Yeah.
Like, is it a one time fee?
Do they pay him every yearroyalties all the time?
I think it's.
I, I would think just knowinghow some of this business works,
that it's a yearly fee thatthey pay Aerosmith to have their
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name on a ride.
Now you don't have to pay itbecause you own the ip.
Right.
But I told my wife doesn't.
My wife sits.
I've been married to my wifefor 26 years and I'm.
I was blown away by thisbecause she never told me this before.
She goes, I don't like the Muppets.
Oh, no.
I said, what do you mean youdon't like the Muppets?
She goes, I never really liked them.
I said, we went to the Muppet3D Show.
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I never really cared for the Muppets.
I go, oh, that's too bad.
Maybe she'll change her mind.
When they have like rocking music.
I picture Animal with thedrums and it's.
I think it's gonna be fun.
Yeah.
Dr.
Teeth and the Electric Mayhem.
That's right.
Yeah, exactly.
Roll with that.
But I'm interested to see howthey, how they kind of change the
theming for that.
Yeah.
That was always one of my fun.
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More fun or cues.
Like to see the videobeforehand, see Aerosmith get in
the limo, that kind of thing.
It was always kind of neat.
Now let's see how they changethat up a little bit.
I will say the same idea or isit going to be completely different?
Yeah.
And I don't look forward tothe closure of that because it'll
take a while.
It was down for pretty muchthe entire year of 2024 already.
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Just for refurbishment.
Right.
And then here we go again.
And I'm like, this sounds likeit's going to be down For a really
long time.
So I'm hoping that we'll atleast get Test Track back open maybe
before they close that onebecause I don't know, it's going
to be tough to lose, to nothave a couple of big rides at a time.
It's.
This is something you and Italked about a couple of months ago
with Epic Universe openingthem up and Disney wanting to respond
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to that.
It's a kind of a delicate yearin 2025 because they're already realizing,
look, people are just even outof curiosity, even if a die hard
Disney fan, they're stillcurious as to what Epic Universe
might be.
It's the time to start saying,okay, if we're going to build it,
now's the time to build it.
Why don't we just admit thatmaybe 2025 belongs to them and let's
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get going for 2026 and 27.
But you can't have too manythings down.
Too many things are down andpeople start noticing it and they
go, okay, look, when we getthere, these main attractions are
in refurbishment or rebuildingor they're building a new land.
So this is, it's.
It becomes very problematic.
But this would.
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2025 would be the year to do it.
Yeah, let them just be in the sun.
Let them enjoy it.
You see it with restaurants.
It's kind of a weird thing.
Like when a new restaurantopens, other restaurants go, fine,
we get it.
Okay, we get it, it's okay.
But please, when everythingcalms down, remember we, we still
have free salads with yourentree, whatever it is.
Right.
I don't know that the wordfree will ever be associated.
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No, that's a great point.
Ever again.
I wish.
Come on, give us something.
Throw us a bone.
Give me back.
Just give me back Magical Express.
Magical Express.
Give me that one thing.
Yeah, I don't mind other things.
I get it.
You're a business.
I get it.
You got shareholders or throwus in.
A magic band again.
I don't think I like them very much.
I like the magic band and that.
Was a good value.
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Yes.
You know, but give me that one.
That Magical Express.
Yeah, that was.
That is just so was so fun.
It was, it was.
I was.
I'm usually a driver down toFlorida, but the one time we went
and wrote it, I said, oh, this is.
This is exceptional.
Yes, this is really great.
All right, we're lookingforward to the treasure again.
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All right, that's Lauren Mallard.
I'm Tony Desiri.
Thanks for listening.
As we roll along on the Wandsand Wishes pod.
It's another episode of theWands and Wishes podcast.
I'm Tony Desiri, along withall the magic travels.
Lauren Mallard.
Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
We are going to be talkingabout Disney's newest cruise ship,
the Disney Treasure, whichmade its sort of media debut a couple
of weeks ago and now issailing out of Florida on seven day
trips.
We're going to talk about whatyou can expect on the Disney Treasure,
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not only the rest of thisseason, but in 2025 and beyond.
How are you, Lauren?
How was your Thanksgiving?
It was good.
How about you?
Good times, good time, goodweek of fun.
Had daughter home from collegeand good times, good times.
So I am really excited aboutthis because I like talking to you
about cruise ships becauseyou've been on seven Disney cruises
and I've been on zero.
And I said in the last podcastwhen we talked about cruising, I
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wasn't a big cruiser for years.
And then finally my likeparents did this like family reunion,
celebrate dad's birthday on a cruise.
And now I'm hooked.
So I went this big chunk oftime from my honeymoon to like 2019.
Not really big on the cruising thing.
And now I've done it's if youcould be beyond 180, I'm 1, I'm beyond
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180, I'm cruising.
I love it.
Yeah, it's, it's really one ofthose things that I tell people all
the time and especially whenit comes to Disney cruising, if you
have somebody in your familythat it gets overwhelmed with the
parks or just really doesn'twant to do the whole walking around
all day.
The cruise is such a goodoption for families because it gives
something for everybody to do.
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The kids can have fun, theadults can have fun, the families
can come together at night andhave dinner.
All your food is included.
It's just such an easy way to vacation.
And I tell people this a lot.
I said, listen, even though Ihaven't been on one, I can tell you
that I know that sometimespeople will see pictures of the parks
and they see the huge crowdsand there's a little bit of anxiety
that comes.
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Like, I really want to do thisfor my family.
I think there's some Disneymagic my kids want to have.
But my gosh, I don't want tostand in these lines and I don't
want to go when it's crowded.
And my vacation is wheneverybody else is on vacation.
And these cruise ships havesuch a big touch of Disney magic
that without the 60 minutewait to ride Haunted Mansion that's
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right.
You can still get that feeling.
That's right.
So Disney Treasure, they havethis big media event now.
Everyone gets to see what'sinside the boat.
It's a Triton class ship.
So it's gigantic.
4,000 people can be on thisboat from somebody who's been on
Disney cruises.
How did you see this ship?
How does it compare to the Wish?
How does it compare to otherboats that the Disney Cruise Line
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has?
Yeah.
So the Treasure is going to bethe same class ship that the Wish
is.
And so they call them sister ships.
You've got the Dream and theFantasy that are considered your
Dream class ships.
And you've got the Magic andthe Wonder that are considered the
classic ships.
The Magic class, I think, iswhat they call those.
So they're going to be thesmallest, smaller ones.
And then you have.
Now what's your mid size isthe Dream and the Fantasy.
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And so the Treasure, while itshould be very similar to the Wish
in layout, the design is goingto be so different.
So what I've seen from it andwhat I have been told by people that
have been on board theTreasure already is just people that
aren't normally wowed by thedesign of a cruise ship have said,
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this is just gorgeous.
And I just, I think thatthey've really, they, they've put
out something different thananything that they've put out before.
Now the one thing I saw wasthat it's kind of this, this theme
around Aladdin.
There's a little bit other,there's some other influences from
the movies.
Now is that Con, is that athing that every ship has a different
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sort of motif or design in the foyer?
Yeah.
And it really was upped morewith the Wish, I think, because when
they came out with the Wish,she really had more of a royal theming,
whereas the other ships, theyall have a different look to them.
But I wouldn't necessarily saythey have a particular theming.
Each one of them has adifferent statue in the main atrium
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and a different character onback of the ship, things like that.
But then they've really takenthis whole theming to another level
now with the princess designof the Wish making it feel very royal.
And now with the Treasure withAladdin and Jasmine and making it
feel very.
Just with all of those jeweltones and everything that's on, on
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board there, just giving itthat, that whole vibe.
Yeah.
And here's the interesting.
I think I said this on thelast podcast we talked about Cruising
is if you go back into thehistory of the company, right.
So you've got Walt with hisdaughter and he goes to this, like,
amusement park.
Like this sort of carnival.
Yeah.
On a.
On a seaside something.
And he goes, this isn't reallyfamily friendly.
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And I'm trying to think of away to make a place that I can take
families to.
And he sort of creates notsomething unique in a theme park
or an amusement park that hadalready existed, but a theme park.
Right.
So he, he comes up with thisdesign and he goes, this is how we're
going to run it.
And in the end, an animationcompany that's making cartoons and
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movies becomes a leader in thetheme park industry.
When they get into the cruisebusiness, you're looking at Carnival
and Royal Caribbean andNorwegian Cruises and they've got
a big chunk of the industryand they know how to do it.
They've gone through all ofthe things you can do and you can't
do things that work, thingsthat don't work.
And they're getting into abrand new business and they go out
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and they hire people that knowthe business and they create these
incredible ships that.
And so it didn't take as longof a learning curve.
Right.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, you didn't get into it blindly.
They go, let's go poach somepeople that know how to do this job.
Yeah.
You know, and build theseships out.
So that's one of the things,when I see these ships, I go, goodness.
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Like they're, they're in aposition to advance the ship.
Like, like you see with RoyalCaribbean, they've got Icon of the
Seas now, this gigantic ship.
But Disney's version of thatis something like you see in the
Treasure.
That's right.
It's something, it's different.
So you're not going to get aship as grand as what you're going
to get on Royal Caribbean orsome of the offerings that you find
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on there, which there are afew things that I wish they would
take from some of these cruiselines because there are some things
that I think Disney could use.
But if you look at it from anapples to orange perspective and
say the Disney Cruise Lineexperience is a totally different
product than Royal Caribbeanor Carnival or Norwegian, because
you are getting such anelevated experience as a whole as
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a family on board.
Disney Cruise Line.
Yeah, because I've been on anumber of different cruises.
I've been on three majorcruise lines and I have never done
rotational dining like theyhave on Disney cruises.
Yeah, that's a really coolseat in every night for dinner, you
know, in the same room.
And the idea that you get togo with your serving team every night,
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you don't just have a randomserver that's taking care of you.
You get these people that getto know you, that find out what you've
done for the day.
They tell you ideas of whatyou can do the next day and what
their favorite things to do onthis particular port that we're going
to be added.
And so it really helps you tobuild that relationship with the
different crew members thatare on board.
And, you know, I have peoplethat'll say, you know, oh, well,
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I want look for so and so onthe Disney Dream next time because
I got to know them on the lastcrew and these crew members, they,
they stay on these ships foryears at a time sometimes.
And so that's, that'ssomething really special in the whole
experience.
It is amazing too, because inan age of Tik Tok and Instagram and
whatnot, like cast members atthe parks, cast members are becoming
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like mini celebrities.
They really are.
If you go, if you go to thisride, make sure you see Joe or you
go, go see Sally at the candy store.
She's been there for 25 years.
Right.
Making all sorts of goodiesfor all this time, that kind of thing.
And they become like instant celebrities.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, on thatnote, I'll be sailing the Treasure
next fall with my family.
And I already reached out,which I was reaching out for another
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reason to one of our favoriteservers who was on the Dream.
And he actually said, oh,well, I'm opening the Treasure and
I plan to be on there next fall.
Oh, great.
Yes.
I've already put in a requestfor our favorite server for next
fall who served us a coupleyears ago.
That's fantastic.
So, all right, so let's get tosome of the things on the Treasure
that kind of opened my eyes.
First of all, I again, theminghas always been great.
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Right.
Whenever they do something andit, and they build it around an attraction
or they build it around ashow, it can be really eye popping.
So the first thing I want toget to is the three restaurants that
are on the ship.
One, 1923.
The other one is this sort ofMarvel Universe sort of restaurant
and then this cocoa themedrestaurant which I want to get to
first because that looks.
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That looked the most uniquedining room setting I've seen on
a cruise ship in all thecruise ships.
Yeah, it really is.
And it's something thatDisney's never done before.
So this is and you know, thecocoa theming hasn't really started
up yet really with a lot ofthe Disney parks and with the cruise
ships.
Right, Obviously with thecruise ships.
But this restaurant andanother thing that Disney hasn't
really done yet is Mexican food.
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Like they haven't reallystepped into that space on the cruise
ships yet.
And they're going to have afull Mexican menu and this in this
restaurant.
And I think that it's so exciting.
And it's going to have a stage show.
It's going to be very similarto what I understand the Arendelle
show is like on the Wish.
That's what they were sayingit was.
It's, it's, it mirrors it in a way.
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But there it's like the sameexperience, different characters,
different music.
But if you've experiencedthat, you're going to get that similar
feeling.
That's right.
In this show.
Yeah.
And you know, I think it's.
It's something that's going tobe really neat.
A.
My kids have never watched Coco.
That I'm.
That I understand.
I know I have never watched it.
And so that's something we'regoing to have to really get into
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before we get on the shipbecause I'm excited about this restaurant.
Oh, it looked, it looked fantastic.
Yeah.
Now 1923, is that on an.
Is that on other ships?
It is.
Cuz I, I heard they said theyreplicated it.
Yes.
So both 1923 and Worlds ofMarvel are both on the Wish.
So you're going to have the.
The same three restaurants ina sense, since they're the same class.
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So that's where we're finding.
Plaza de Coco is going tomirror Arendelle and then you have
the other two that are goingto be same.
I don't know whether the menusare going to be the same.
I assume that they are, but wehaven't seen the menu pictures yet.
Now 1923 is, is sort of atribute to Walt and Roy.
Yes.
And sort of taking you back alittle bit in time.
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A lot of artifacts, a lot of.
A lot of animation palettes,if you will.
Sort of those sort of feelinglike you're walking through the history
of what the company was whenit first got started.
That's right.
So all right.
Now the Marvel.
Is there an interactiveelement to that dining room?
So that is something I'm notreally sure.
I think that there someinteraction, but not to the extent
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that Arendelle or that Plazade Coco on the Treasure will be.
But I have heard that Worldsof Marvel is actually kind of loud,
so I don't know if it's one ofthose types of restaurants, like
what Animators Palette is on,the Dream and the Fantasy, where
you have somewhat of aninteractive screen type situation.
But I haven't been on theWish, so I'm really not sure exactly
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what that experience is like.
All right, so now let's get tothe one thing that really makes me
want to book a cruise on theTreasure, and that's the Haunted
Man.
I knew you were going to go there.
This is something.
I think I've been kind ofyelling this out for 15 years.
Do something with the hauntedmansions within the park.
It is begging for a restaurant.
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It is begging for a different experience.
And I've said, I don't care ifyou put it in California, if you
want to put in Orlando, great.
But it's such an incredibletheme for something other than the
ride.
And I know the gift shop isfine, but that I expect.
But now they've kind of doneit with this, like seeing the videos
of people who walk in thereand seeing the ghost suit in the
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mirror and all the differentcocktails and just the.
It's exactly what I wanted outof a, out of a place in the parks.
I want that in the parks.
The pictures look sofantastic, and I don't know, and
you may already know theanswer to this, but are the cast
members in there going to actlike the cast members at the Haunted
Mansion?
I think so, yeah.
Because at least they did insome of the media things that I saw.
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Okay.
You know, I.
So I don't know if they werehamming it up for the media event
and that's the way it's goingto be.
But I, I would assume thatthey would be saying, like, come
in here and, and, and be partof this.
This is what this is about.
Oh, I can't wait.
I think it's going to be somuch fun.
There's also a Jungle Cruiseedition, a sort of a lounge area
as well, where you can go in there.
So I, I think that they'vetaken two very iconic, longstanding,
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you know, attractions thathave been within the parks for a
very, very long time and said,while we have the new stuff, while
the kids are excited about thenew stuff, you all remember these
rides from when you were kidsor these, these rides that continue
today.
Here's something for you guysto enjoy as well.
That's right.
And another thing with theTriton class ships, that's, that's
something else that they kindof did with the Wish, they have a
Star wars lounge on the Wishand they have Nightingales that's
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more themed on the Wish.
Whereas on the Dream Class andthe Magic class ships, you have fantastic
lounges, but not done to thetheming that this new class of ships
is doing.
It's funny that you mentioned,I wanted to ask you because of all
the, all the times you've beenon Disney cruises, how much if I
had a stew, how much isoriginal Disney stuff?
And then the Marvel and theStar Wars.
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If I don't care for Star wars,am I inundated with that a little
too much on some of these?
Like, how does it work withthe ip?
Absolutely not.
So that's a good thing.
As far as the sailings thatare Marvel Day at Sea or Star Wars
Day at Sea or Pixar Day atSea, you're gonna get a little more
peppered in there.
But if you're not, you act.
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We actually don't get any Starwars characters for the most part
on most of the ships.
Now, I have seen that Rey isgoing to be on the Treasure.
So that is going to be anaddition, I think, to the Treasure
on a normal sailing.
Other than that, to be honest,there's a Star wars section in the
kids club, but really you'renot going to feel at all like you're
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immersed into an ip,especially not with Marvel.
You're really not going to seethat they have added the new Marvel
section to the Disney DreamKids Oceaneer Club.
But other than the Kids Kidsclubs, if you're not on one of those
days at sea specifically, thenyou're not going to feel like that.
All right.
Staying with the food, becauseagain, we talked about the dining
room, but then there's,there's the buffet, but then there
are these like little kiosks.
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Yes, the Festival of foods.
Yeah, Festival of foods.
Like this barbecue, smokestackand what is it?
Goofy's Pizza or whatever.
It may be like, different.
Now that's something that Idon't see on other cruise ships.
I don't.
I see maybe a pizza standbecause late night pizza is always
a thing, but I don't see aplace to like grab barbecue.
Now I've been on a cruise shipthat had burgers.
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Like, I've had.
I've gone to different.
Like one had a taco stand, butnothing like a.
Like a courtyard.
Like at a mall.
Yeah.
Like, where you have thatfeeling of like, this room is dedicated
to like five different food locations.
Yeah, they've really upped thegame on the pool deck.
As far as being able to havedifferent offerings, you're gonna
have your standards, yourchicken tenders, your hot dogs, your
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burgers.
But like you said, if youwant, if you don't want to have to
go into Marceline Market,which is the buffet, which is going
to be what we've talked aboutbefore, pretty chaotic, right?
Every day of the ship or ofthe sailing, then go and make a barbecue
bowl or make tacos or aburrito bowl.
There are so many options.
And these are available allday long from lunch until late night.
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So even if you've already hadlunch, go out there, get a little
bite and have a snack.
All right, so now this is justa Treasure is just going on seven
day cruises for the nearfuture, right?
For the foreseeable future.
From what I understand, all of 2025.
That's correct.
From Port Canaveral.
So whether changes, I don't know.
But it looks like it is alarge ship going on larger vacations
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than a quick three day jaunt.
That's right.
And you can look at thedifferent itineraries.
There's a Western Caribbeanseven night sailing as well as an
Eastern Caribbean seven night sailing.
So you can look at thedifferent ports, see what's going
to interest you and yourfamily more.
Depending on the dates thoseare going to change obviously.
But yeah, it's a fantasticitinerary to get on this seven night.
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Be able to see three to fourdifferent ports usually or always
actually that's going toinclude a visit to one or both of
the private islands.
Typically one of the private islands.
All right, now they talkedabout this Lion King theater, but
it's different than theregular theater.
Is that where all the playsand shows are?
Is there a smaller theater onthese boats?
So there are two theaters on,on the, on the, on the other ships.
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But I'm not sure with theTreasure how that's going to work.
But on the Dream and theFantasy, there is the Buena Vista
Theater and the Walt Disneythe theater and where you're going
to go to the Walt DisneyTheater for your shows.
Whereas the Buena VistaTheater is going to have things like
the movies and differentthings that you can go watch.
So I haven't looked into whatis going to be offered in the two
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different theaters other thanI do know that the, the feature show
on this ship is going to beMoana, which is.
Which I think is going to be fantastic.
And so look ahead and seewhat's going to be on the different
itineraries.
As far as the Shows areconcerned you're not going to get
a feature show every night,especially on these seven night sailings.
You're going to get somethinga little smaller on some of the nights.
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But typically like on the Wishright now there is Frozen as well
as the Little Mermaid.
And so for a seven nightsailing, I expect us to get something
else that might be a Disneyclassic in addition to Moana.
And then you might have one ofthe other classics from the other
Disney Cruise line ships,something like Disney's Believe or
the Golden Mickey, which a lotof people are familiar with on other
sailings.
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So like I said before, Imissed this window of time because
I just wasn't a cruiser.
So I had the kids and we'd goto Disney, we'd go down to Florida,
and cruising was just notsomething we even considered.
Yeah.
Now they're gone and incollege and we're empty nesters.
And I keep telling my wife,we've got to do a Disney cruise just
to do it.
That's right.
And she goes, I don't know.
I mean, it's kids, I get it.
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And I told her, I said, lookwhat on the other boats, okay, so
Disney doesn't have on theboat, on their boats, the two things
you don't do anyway on acruise ship.
You don't gamble and you don'tgo to art shows.
So like, you don't do both ofthose things.
Everything else that you dowhen we go cruising you can do on
a Disney cruise.
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That's right.
There's so much for adults toenjoy whether you have kids or not.
And I've said it before, ifyou don't want to see kids, you don't
have to.
You don't have to.
Exactly.
And I've had just as much fun.
I've done two adult onlysailings on Disney Cruise Line and
I had just as much fun onthose as I did with my kids.
Yeah, so I'm, I'm, I'm workingon it.
I'm working on it.
We're going on a RoyalCaribbean in March, but I'm working
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on that Disney cruise.
That's right.
I got to do it before.
Do it next.
Do it next.
So real quick, again withthese boats.
I tell this story a lot.
When I first got into sports,sports broadcasting, I was first
down in the business.
I covered NASCAR and the NewHampshire International Speedway
where I grew up and had myfirst job.
They had their first NASCARrace in 1993.
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And over the years that Icovered that sport, I started noticing
how very Efficient.
They were.
They're trying to get 80,000people into seats in a very small
town.
Yeah.
Really small town in NewHampshire that just didn't have the
infrastructure for it.
And when I probed about howthey did it, the first thing I said
was, well, we took ourexecutives to Disney, and they said,
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disney has this program, like,where they will teach you how they
do it.
Wow.
They teach you how to movepeople in, how to flow people, and
how to provide service that is exceptional.
Like, I would.
Every time I would go, peopleknew who I was.
They would.
They.
My name was in a picture book.
It was, like, kind of neat.
Like, this is how they did it.
Yeah.
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And we go back to the thing Iwas saying about the cruise industry.
Like, a lot of times you go onthese cruise ships and you don't
feel that connection, butDisney has already established themselves
as a company that figures outhow to just get.
How to make it streamline, the efficiency.
You're absolutely right.
Yeah.
You know, and so that's one ofthe things that I'm kind of looking
forward to seeing is a lot oftimes I've gone on these cruises
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where I've said, well, this,this, this, and this.
You know, I love the cruise.
It was fun, but I had problemswith my.
My parents just went on one,and I.
I said, how'd you like it?
Oh, we had a great time.
And then my father wentthrough a list of complaints that
made me go, did you have agood time?
I'm like.
I'm trying to remember, like,early when we started this conversation,
you said you had a blast.
And now you've picked apart,like, five things.
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And they all really had to dowith customer service.
They all really had to do withnot being able to resolve a conflict.
Sure.
And I.
And I would got to think thatthere are some conflicts that you've
had in Southern cruises thathave been rectified as quickly as
they possibly can.
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's another thing thatI think sets Disney apart is I will
say I was in a resort withinthe last six months or so that had
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some problems in the room thatI asked to be taken care of.
Well, in four to five days,those were never resolved.
So when I was on Disney CruiseLine last month, we had an issue
with one of the lights notturning on.
And literally within 30minutes, they had someone there and
they had fixed it, and it was.
It was never a problem again.
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So it's.
They know they have a processfor different things.
And I'm not sayingeverything's going to be perfect.
Because it's not.
But I think if you go about itthe right way and if you're polite,
they do, they do know how tohelp and they can help their guests
and they want to help their guests.
That's exactly right.
And I've always said, I'vetold people many times, like, the
squeaky wheel gets the grease,but the really nice squeaky wheel
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will get even more grease.
Yeah.
Like, if you really go after.
Like we talked about this onmy, my wife and I's trip when there
was a lot of problems atHollywood Studios and rides were
breaking down and you feltlike I wasted a day because the main
attraction, Rise of theResistance down.
Slinking the dog's dash is down.
Aerosmith roller coaster is down.
All of this is down.
And people were really angry.
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The angry people kind of got,well, this best I can do is this.
Yeah.
My wife and I got a free parkhopper pass and a free go to Magic
Kingdom and have a good time.
That's why we fix this stuff.
And come back later if you want.
That's right.
Lesson learned.
You've got to present yourself.
And I have to tell myself thata lot of times because I can kind
of bulldog a little bit, but,you know, but you got to be able
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to present yourself.
Chris always tells me, you getit, honey is sweeter or whatever
the saying is.
He reminds me of that all the time.
And so you're right.
Absolutely.
It makes a difference.
When we were in 2012, we werestaying at Art of Animation and we
were in the.
Not.
Was it Lion.
I think it was Lion KingSuite, whatever it was.
And we, we woke up and the airconditioning wasn't working and everybody
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had a miserable night sleeping.
I put in a work, you know, Icalled up work order, said, hey,
we're going to the parkstoday, but our air conditioning is
out.
We came back, the room was on fire.
Like as soon as we walkedthrough the.
We walked through.
No one had fixed it.
Oh no.
So we called up again and theysaid, yeah, we've had some problem.
But they had like three peoplecome to the room to help us pack.
And then they sent us to theCars suite.
Wow.
On the other side of the thing.
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And so it was kind of neatbecause I got to experience two different
themed rooms, you know, on aweek long trip.
It was kind of neat.
And they, they were all veryhelpful along the way.
So that's pretty great.
So the treasure again, you'regoing, what, October?
Yeah, next October.
Like about.
What is it?
Ten months.
That's right, Exactly.
It's no longer over a year.
Yeah, exactly.
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I can't wait to talk aboutthat when you come back in 10 months.
Yeah.
We do want to get to someother bits of news because we touched
on it two weeks ago and thatis the rumors were right.
Aerosmith roller coaster isturning into Muppets.
Yeah.
You know, I'm actually excitedabout it.
I'm kind of excited too.
I don't know, like, I don'tknow the business of it.
And I, I actually tried tolook this up and it's a.
It's an Internet secret, whichis hard to keep secrets on the Internet.
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But I, my.
I googled.
How much was Disney payingAerosmith for the licensing for that
ride?
Ride?
Yeah.
Like, is it a one time fee?
Do they pay him every yearroyalties all the time?
I think it's.
I, I would think just knowinghow some of this business works,
that it's a yearly fee thatthey pay Aerosmith to have their
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name on a ride.
Now you don't have to pay itbecause you own the ip.
Right.
But I told my wife doesn't.
My wife sits.
I've been married to my wifefor 26 years and I'm.
I was blown away by thisbecause she never told me this before.
She goes, I don't like the Muppets.
Oh, no.
I said, what do you mean youdon't like the Muppets?
She goes, I never really liked them.
I said, we went to the Muppet3D Show.
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I never really cared for the Muppets.
I go, oh, that's too bad.
Maybe she'll change her mind.
When they have like rocking music.
I picture Animal with thedrums and it's.
I think it's gonna be fun.
Yeah.
Dr.
Teeth and the Electric Mayhem.
That's right.
Yeah, exactly.
Roll with that.
But I'm interested to see howthey, how they kind of change the
theming for that.
Yeah.
That was always one of my fun.
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More fun or cues.
Like to see the videobeforehand, see Aerosmith get in
the limo, that kind of thing.
It was always kind of neat.
Now let's see how they changethat up a little bit.
I will say the same idea or isit going to be completely different?
Yeah.
And I don't look forward tothe closure of that because it'll
take a while.
It was down for pretty muchthe entire year of 2024 already.
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Just for refurbishment.
Right.
And then here we go again.
And I'm like, this sounds likeit's going to be down For a really
long time.
So I'm hoping that we'll atleast get Test Track back open maybe
before they close that onebecause I don't know, it's going
to be tough to lose, to nothave a couple of big rides at a time.
It's.
This is something you and Italked about a couple of months ago
with Epic Universe openingthem up and Disney wanting to respond
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to that.
It's a kind of a delicate yearin 2025 because they're already realizing,
look, people are just even outof curiosity, even if a die hard
Disney fan, they're stillcurious as to what Epic Universe
might be.
It's the time to start saying,okay, if we're going to build it,
now's the time to build it.
Why don't we just admit thatmaybe 2025 belongs to them and let's
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get going for 2026 and 27.
But you can't have too manythings down.
Too many things are down andpeople start noticing it and they
go, okay, look, when we getthere, these main attractions are
in refurbishment or rebuildingor they're building a new land.
So this is, it's.
It becomes very problematic.
But this would.
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2025 would be the year to do it.
Yeah, let them just be in the sun.
Let them enjoy it.
You see it with restaurants.
It's kind of a weird thing.
Like when a new restaurantopens, other restaurants go, fine,
we get it.
Okay, we get it, it's okay.
But please, when everythingcalms down, remember we, we still
have free salads with yourentree, whatever it is.
Right.
I don't know that the wordfree will ever be associated.
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No, that's a great point.
Ever again.
I wish.
Come on, give us something.
Throw us a bone.
Give me back.
Just give me back Magical Express.
Magical Express.
Give me that one thing.
Yeah, I don't mind other things.
I get it.
You're a business.
I get it.
You got shareholders or throwus in.
A magic band again.
I don't think I like them very much.
I like the magic band and that.
Was a good value.
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Yes.
You know, but give me that one.
That Magical Express.
Yeah, that was.
That is just so was so fun.
It was, it was.
I was.
I'm usually a driver down toFlorida, but the one time we went
and wrote it, I said, oh, this is.
This is exceptional.
Yes, this is really great.
All right, we're lookingforward to the treasure again.
If you'd like to get a hold ofus for any of your Disney vacation
needs or universal needs, we'dlove to hear from you, Lauren, at
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All right, that's Lauren Mallard.
I'm Tony Desiri.
Thanks for listening.
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