What if mastering your mindset and embracing the entrepreneurial journey could be the key to success? In this episode, Jarome McKenzie, founder of Arrowhead Strategy Group, shares his inspiring journey from New Zealand to Kansas City, his leap into entrepreneurship, and how he helps startups and mid-market companies optimize their accounting functions to drive better decision-making.
But this episode isn’t just about numbers—Jarome’s philosophy on self-belief, resilience, and taking the leap offers invaluable lessons for any entrepreneur. From his unexpected path into accounting to quitting his job without clients and building his firm from scratch, his insights on mindset, relationships, and perseverance will leave you inspired and ready to take action.
💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business
✅ Why betting on yourself is the most important entrepreneurial decision you can make
✅ How Jarome transitioned from a corporate job to building his own firm—and what you can learn from his leap
✅ The power of mastering your mindset and how to use it to push through doubt and fear
✅ Why deep relationships matter more than sales tactics when growing your business
✅ How to take action even when you feel unprepared, underqualified, or unsure
✅ The surprising truth about why great businesses are built on service and relationships—not just numbers
📝 About Jarome McKenzie
Born and raised in Auckland, New Zealand, Jarome McKenzie always knew two things: he wanted to be a dad, and he wanted to be an entrepreneur. His journey led him from playing baseball in the U.S. to earning a degree in accounting and working for global firms—before realizing the corporate world wasn’t for him.
Now, as the founder of Arrowhead Strategy Group, he helps entrepreneurs and business owners optimize their accounting functions, so they can make better financial decisions, scale their companies, and maximize business value. But more than numbers, Jarome is passionate about helping people, building deep relationships, and empowering entrepreneurs to take control of their future.
🎯 Jarome’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs
“Have faith in yourself. If you believe in what you’re doing, you’ll figure everything else out along the way.”
💡 Key Takeaways from Jarome's Advice:
✔ Your mindset shapes your reality—train yourself to believe you can do it
✔ Impatience kills success—embrace the journey, not just the destination
✔ The hardest challenges are often the ones that make you stronger
📢 Memorable Quotes
“If you don’t have a Plan B, you’ll make Plan A work.” – Jarome McKenzie
“I wanted to be directly responsible for the outcome of my life.” – Jarome McKenzie
“The best relationships in business go beyond transactions—they’re built on trust and value.” – Jarome McKenzie
💡 Actionable Takeaways
✅ Struggling with self-doubt? Start each day reinforcing your belief in yourself
✅ Want to build deep business relationships? Focus on giving more than you take
✅ Thinking about starting a business? Don’t wait until you feel "ready"—take the leap and figure it out as you go
✅ Learn to love the journey—success isn’t a single destination, but a process of growth
🔗 Links & Resources
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what is up?
Welcome to this episode of theEntrepreneur to Entrepreneur
podcast.
As always, I'm your host, brianLoFermento, and I'm so excited
about today's episode andtoday's guest because this is
someone who not only loves whathe does and we're definitely
going to talk about his subjectmatter expertise but this is
someone who also lovesentrepreneurship and all the
possibilities that it opens upfor all of us, on an individual
(00:22):
level and on a community andengagement level.
This is someone who loves thejourney as much as he does the
work that he's doing and how hepositively helps people.
So let me introduce you totoday's guest.
His name is Jerome McKenzie.
Jerome is the founder and CEO ofArrowhead Strategy Group, where
he helps startups and lower tomiddle market companies manage
(00:44):
world-class accounting functionsso that they can make better
business decisions, which isimportant for all of us.
He was born and raised in NewZealand.
He founded his company, like Isaid, arrowhead Strategy Group
in March of 2024.
And, as I said, this is someonewho really loves the journey,
so I love he wrote it for me inhis bio.
He says I'm on a journey tobuild something great.
(01:04):
We are all going gonna learn somuch from Jerome today, not
just about the accountingfunctions that he helps others
with, but how to love thatjourney as well and, of course,
how to build something great.
So I'm excited about this one.
I'm not gonna say anything else.
Let's dive straight into myinterview with Jerome McKenzie.
All right, jerome.
(01:24):
It's not every day that we'rejoined by a Kiwi who is in the
freezing cold of Kansas City,but I have to say welcome to the
show.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Thank you.
Thank you so much, happy to behere.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Heck, yes.
Well, I'm excited to hear yourstory and that love for the
journey and building somethinggreat as well.
Before we get to that stuff,take us beyond the bio.
Who's Jerome?
How'd you start doing all thesecool things?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, so, as you said , I'm born and raised in
Auckland, new Zealand, and how Igot to Kansas City, missouri,
is a little atypical.
One morning after my gap yearafter high school, I was just
working as a house painter,trying to figure out what my
(02:09):
next move was, what I wanted todo with my life, and I had
always known two things forcertain in life.
One was that I always wanted tobe a dad, and the other thing
was that I had always wanted tobe an entrepreneur and own my
own business.
Thing was that I had alwayswanted to be an entrepreneur and
own my own business.
Didn't know exactly what thatmeant, what that looked like,
(02:32):
but those are the two thingsI've always known for certain.
And one morning and I rememberthe date, it was January 17th
2017.
I woke up and I was just hadthis empty feeling of that.
There was like a calling ofsorts uh, to come over to the us
.
I've never been to the statesbefore, uh, but I just felt some
, some sort of internal callingthat there was something uh here
(02:56):
for me and I thought, okay,well, I want to go to college, I
want to get a degree again,don't know what degree.
I want to, uh, wanted, wantedto pursue, but, uh, uh, all
right, how can I do that over inthe U?
S?
And then I, you know, do alittle research and I found out,
oh, college is expensive andcoming from a family that, uh,
(03:19):
you know, we didn't have anabundance of of money.
And also, knowing thatinternational students can't get
scholarship, can't getfinancial aid, and over in US
colleges, I had to figure outokay, well, how am I going to be
able to do that then?
And so I was like well, I seethat you can get scholarships to
(03:39):
come over and play differentsports in college, which is not
something that's actually in NewZealand.
And so I picked a sport and Iliked baseball.
Watching baseball and in NewZealand we play baseball is not
a big sport at all, but I playedsome fast pitch softball that's
(04:03):
kind of the salt that andcricket or the big kind of bat
and ball sports over there.
So I came over, played somebaseball, got a scholarship, was
in West Burlington, iowa, for asemester, got hurt, got cut,
drove down to Kansas City, triedout for a university here and
(04:28):
spent the rest of my collegeupstairs to borrow her vacuum
cleaner one day, and me and myroommate had never vacuumed our
(04:50):
apartment in our three years ofliving there, and we had a dog,
so you can imagine how atrociousthat apartment was.
They let us borrow it, returnedit smelling like three years of
dog hair.
They swore never to let meborrow it again.
They let me borrow it again andnow, uh, that's my wife and
kansas city's home jerome.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I love that story for so many reasons.
I'm sure your wife will lovethe fact that it's made its way
onto the airwaves, beinglistened to by thousands of
people in over 150 countries.
But the fact that really standsout there is the fact that
you've always followed thatintuition and followed your nose
wherever that took you, fromNew Zealand to Iowa to Kansas
(05:33):
City and everywhere in between.
I love how much you've alwayslistened to those insides and
that gut feeling of I want to bean entrepreneur and I also want
to be open to possibilities andI want to pursue those
possibilities.
Talk to us about thatentrepreneurial drive, because I
find that it's two sides of thecoin.
Either someone says I alwaysknew I wanted to be an
entrepreneur or I had no idea.
I wanted to be an entrepreneurand I fell into it.
(05:54):
Where'd that early drive comefrom and how did that land in
your head?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I think the biggest role that that played was my dad
has always been self-employedand he's never in my entire life
worked for another company, sothat was what I grew up around,
(06:21):
and then I just had a naturalkind of gravitation towards that
.
I'm not much of a person whohas, you know, growing up liked
authority.
I like to challenge limits.
I like to challenge you knowthe reasons why for doing things
(06:43):
and and so I've just alwayskind of been drawn to it, for
even from a kind of young age.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I love that, especially challenging authority
.
It's something that we all faceand I think it even shows in
your university travels ofsaying, yeah, I'm going to try
for this team and I'm going touse my levels of achievement, my
capabilities, to pave my ownpath.
So I really appreciate thatpart of your journey, especially
knowing that you've leveragedthose skills along the way to,
(07:12):
of course, start a business thatis doing really important work
through Arrowhead Strategy Group.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Talk to us about that real world transition from
studying accounting, helpingother businesses with it, to now
running a business of your ownstudying accounting, helping
other businesses with it, to nowrunning a business of your own,
yeah, so I had worked for acouple of different accounting
firms doing accounting financeconsulting, first for a big
(07:37):
public accounting firm that hasoffices all around the world.
Within the first week Irealized that the climbing the
corporate ladder was just notgoing to be my path.
And then I moved and I wasworking for a startup and I
enjoyed that a whole lot more,but still there was just the
(08:00):
aspect of it, that aspect of itthat my like a lack of control
of really.
Basically, like I've alwaysknown that I've wanted to be
directly responsible for theoutcome of my life, whether that
was success or failure.
I wanted my inputs, my effortsto be to determine the output of
(08:23):
my life.
And and it's kind of funny howI kind of got into starting an
accounting firm I discoveredback in early 2022, I believe
(08:44):
the whole concept of buying anexisting small business, you
know, with SBA financing, kindof the self-funded searcher
model, and I went all in on that, almost closed on a business
actually in your home of Tampawhen we lived in Florida a
(09:06):
couple years ago, and my onlycriteria at the time for
pursuing that was that I thoughtI absolutely don't want to buy
an accounting firm.
And it was through that processof no-transcript and that was
(09:49):
pretty sad for me to see.
And so that's the idea thatkind of sparked Starting Our
Head.
It was that I wanted to helpbusiness owners maximize the
value for their life's work, fortheir business.
And I started it off with kindof what I knew which was having
(10:16):
different clients andeffectively serving as their
accounting function in theirbusinesses.
And then through a friend ofmine who owns a sell side M&A
advisory firm, stonebridgeadvisors he I was talking
through this idea with him of Ijust want to get a few clients
(10:39):
and build it up, and then kindof to the point where I could
replace my income and thenfigure out what I want to do.
Because I was going throughbeginning of last year a bit of
a transformation on kind ofreflecting which way I wanted to
(11:00):
go with my life and whetherbuying a business was the right
path for me, what kind ofbusiness kind of.
I was kind of lost at thatpoint.
But just over a year ago and hesaid so you want to start an
accounting firm?
I was like well, no, because Iwas set on this idea that that
(11:21):
was what I never wanted to buy.
And I said I just want to getsome clients and then figure out
what I want to do.
And he said, so you want tostart an accounting firm?
And I was like, well, yeah, Iguess so technically.
And then the next day I decidedto go all in on it and he said
something that was prettyinfluential in how I went about
(11:46):
it, because I thought it wassomething that I could build up
and then quit my job and then gofrom there.
And he put in me the idea to,if you don't have a plan B, then
you will make your plan A work.
And so I went that route and Iquit my job with no clients,
(12:13):
with not much saved in the bank,and I and just like a very
small, you know, a few years ofa 401k built up that I was ready
to liquidate and kind of cover,give me a runway of about six
or seven months.
And then, as soon as I did that, things started falling into
(12:36):
place.
And he was, you know, he wasright, and I'm really glad I did
it that way.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, jerome, burn the boats.
That's always been one of myfavorite historical stories,
because when early settlersburned the boats, they had no
other choice.
It has to work.
And hearing that about you,jerome, I just feel like this is
already a recurring theme thisearly on in our conversation
today, which is that youconsistently bet on yourself,
something that you said in there.
You said I want to be the onethat controls my outcomes in
(13:04):
life.
You want to be that one, jerome, but that's because you believe
in yourself, that's because youbet on yourself.
Talk to me about that mindset.
I would imagine that kind ofthe baseball player inside of
you, the athlete, the person whobelieves in yourself that
manifests in all aspects of yourlife.
I'd love to get into thatmindset that powers you and
enables you to make that betthat a lot of people are afraid
(13:25):
of.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, and, to be honest, like that's something
that has been a hugetransformation in myself to
build, especially over the lastyear.
Um, the person that I was ayear ago, uh, compared Like, for
example, a year ago, when Ilike I would wake as soon as I
(13:48):
had my last day at my former job.
I would wake up and the routinefor the first couple of months
was wake up, feel like I'm goingto be sick, question what I was
, what I had done, and then haveto get into the mindset to kind
of take action that day and tomake what I'm trying to do a
(14:10):
reality.
And, like the mindset piece hasbeen something that has at
times been a struggle, but it'ssomething that I know how
important it is, that I know howimportant it is and really it's
.
There's a book that I now readevery single day.
It's kind of like my ownpersonal Bible that I read a
(14:34):
chapter of it every day and myintention is to continue doing
that till the day I die.
Is this book called the masterkey system?
It's it's older than Think andGrow Rich, but it's based around
the same concept of the laws ofthe universe and it focuses a
(14:54):
lot as well on the belief thatyou have to have internally to
be able to create those resultsin your external world.
And it makes a lot of sense forme, when you think about it,
like when you zoom out and youcan actually think about just
the concept and separate it fromyourself that if you don't
(15:17):
believe fully in what you'resetting out to do, or in
yourself, then it's going tomake things very, very difficult
to become reality.
And so that's really thebiggest like that's the things
from like that book and then,you know, from other books like
(15:39):
it, and is really now thepillars of what I base my life
on.
And it's really centered aroundfor me, knowing what's
important for me, what kind oflife I want, what my purpose is,
what values that I stand for,and basing every single decision
(16:01):
in my life around those things.
So for me it's my family, it'smy wife, it's my future kids
like God willing and being ableto be able to feel and see the
type of life that I want, andthat then translates into my
(16:22):
business purpose, which is whatam I passionate about?
Cause, like, if, if I'm, if, ifanyone in my industry is being
completely honest, there's athere's a limit to how
passionate you can be aboutaccounting and numbers, right,
it's a very data driven,analytical, black and white
industry, but I found my why inthat and something just in my
(16:49):
life in general that is what I'mpassionate about is helping
people, and so I've found a wayto All right.
So if I am passionate abouthelping people, how can I base
my business around that?
And that's what I, so that'show I run my business and how I
(17:10):
operate my business, and thething that I'm most passionate
about in my business is therelationships that I can make
with people, and I'm veryblessed and fortunate to have
clients that value those thingsas well and have really, really
great relationships.
And, like my goal is always tohave the relationships with
(17:34):
anyone who I meet in life,whether it's a client or
otherwise, to go deeper than atransactional level, because
transactional relationships I I,quite frankly, I, I really I
really don't like them.
Um, they make me feel kind ofuncomfortable, like just the
feeling of something that's justsolely based on a transaction.
(17:55):
Uh, I don't, I don't like.
And so I just asked myself thequestion why?
Why do I have to haverelationships that are just
transactional and that's what Idon't?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, jerome, so many powerful insights in there.
You really make me think ofthat Henry Ford quote that I've
long been a fan of, where hesaid whether you think you can
or you can't, you're right andit happens from within our minds
.
And that's really cool to hearhow, on a daily basis, you are
practicing that.
That's the stuff that you'reputting into your mind.
So it doesn't surprise me thatit manifests itself in not only
(18:28):
your business but in your life,and I think that it's so clear
how much you're value-driven inthe way that you operate across
the board.
You brought up that importantpillar of relationships to you
and I feel like it's advice thata lot of entrepreneurial
podcasts have.
We read it in business books.
Talk to us about thoserelationships, because I'm with
you.
I mean you and I.
Before we hit record today, weactually didn't even talk about
(18:48):
business at all.
We talked about geography, wetalked about things that you and
I had in common, and so we gotto, and I very much look forward
to the day we get to have acoffee together in person and
it's clear to me that that's theway that you operate.
Talk to us about thatrelationship building because,
especially newer entrepreneurs.
I think that they are sofocused on sales, they are so
(19:09):
focused on their accounting andtheir financial situation that
they forget about truerelationships.
So take us there, jerome.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, no, focus on sales, which, like I very
quickly uh realized that that is, you know, that is, uh, one of
my biggest jobs now is is sales,uh, and sales is also something
that I uh I have alwayshistorically kind of attached a
(19:39):
negative feeling, negative uhconnotation towards, because a
mentor of mine once used thephrase sales, sales breath,
which I love to kind of referback to.
You know, like the kind of thefeeling when you you might have
(20:00):
if you go to like a cardealership or you know the, the,
you know door-to-door salesmenthat really come across with
like that sales breath, and Iwas like, uh, all right, I, that
is something that I don't wantto have.
And so how can I, how can Imake the sales component not
feel salesy to me?
And then it all came, came backto okay, well, well, what do I
(20:24):
love doing?
And it's having conversationswith people, building
relationships with people thatgo deeper than just that top
surface level call is to my solegoal, when you know, meeting a
(20:50):
new person, whether it's aprospective client or just
anyone new, is to get on andjust to see how much I can
connect with that person, andthen really everything is just
based around kind of the, thecore values that I've uh set as
kind of non-negotiables for mylife.
So authenticity, uh, havingempathy, uh a really important
(21:14):
one for me, being a net giver.
So how can I, how can I engagein like a uh a competition of
generosity and and try and give,uh give value to, to, to you or
to someone else?
Another one that is something Ipractice every day is gratitude
(21:41):
and always being grateful forwhere I'm at the growth I've had
the things I have, the growthof I've had the things I have
another one and takingintentional action every day
that align with the rest of yourpurpose and your mission in
life, and then always having anabundance mindset, even though
that one can be.
You know that can be tricky.
Some days are harder thanothers.
(22:02):
You know that can be tricky,some days, uh, harder than
others.
But um, yeah, the relationshipside of things is um is the most
important thing for me and umlike uh.
You might be familiar with uh anold clip of simon sinek where
he talks about the uh, the howand why, and a lot of companies
(22:27):
go from the what, the how, andthen they don't know what their
why is, but the great companiesand he talked about the Wright
Brothers and Apple start withwhy?
Obviously his book, obviouslyhis book, and and so that's a.
(22:50):
That's another great lens thatI like to look at at my business
through is at the beginning ofit all, you know, the idea that
sparked it all was a why and itwas to to help people.
And then it was was, then itwas kind of figuring out all
right, how can I do that?
Um, and so, knowing what my whyis, and then uh from the
(23:13):
beginning, and then working, uh,working out from there has, uh,
is, is the way I like to do it.
It's the way that that allowsme to wake up every morning
excited and where a Mondaymorning feels the exact same as
a Friday afternoon to me.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
And yeah, yeah, jerome, I'll tell you what.
Hearing all of this, I wouldsay from the outside, looking in
and just having looked at yourwork and having a chance to
interact with you here today,it's not just about your why.
What I really appreciate isthat you also love the journey.
It's something that I teased atthe very top of today's episode
, and the more you and Iinteract, I think of that quote.
I'm obviously a sucker forquotes, the way that you're a
(23:54):
sucker for books and obtainingthe wisdom of others through
that mechanism.
I love that quote of the manwho loves walking will walk
farther than the man who lovesthe destination.
Talk to us about the journey,because I'll tell you this as
the host of this show for over1100 episodes.
I think the one thing thatplagues entrepreneurs the most
is impatience for results.
They're all looking for thatresult, whereas I think it's
(24:16):
safe to say for both you and Ithat we love the entrepreneurial
journey, which sometimes meansresults are going to be delayed,
sometimes it's going to feellike the results are never going
to come at all, but we have tokeep walking along that journey.
Talk to us about the mindsetbehind that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, no, it's, and again, that's another, that's
another thing that has uh, Ifeel, at least for me it has.
It's something that you have towork on and you have to keep
reminding yourself, uh, uh, howimportant it is.
As you know, the most importantthing, and it's, um, like the
(24:54):
journey is, uh, is 99 of it, andI think you know it's, there's,
there's, like there's alwaysgoing to be.
You know, especially in likeyou're in business to to make a
profit, to earn money, and youknow what that money can do for
you and your company and thepeople you can help with it.
Like that's all important stuff, but, um, the, the way I think
(25:19):
about it as well, is that I,those are results of the daily
things you do day in, day out,and staying true to your purpose
and your mission.
Like that will create theresults, uh, and which you know,
the destination, whether thoseare kind of destinations along
(25:42):
the way and or, or if you have a, you know, a big end goal type
thing.
So, like I, um the journey isjust if it, it becomes easier to
do for me when I do things thatare in line with my purpose and
(26:02):
with what I'm passionate aboutand what gives me fulfillment,
and it's uh, it's it just makesmore sense to me to do things
you enjoy, so that every dayalong that journey it's a
(26:22):
journey of growth.
There might be a couple of weekswhere things are hard and you
don't see the results of theeffort you've put in, don't see
the results of the effort you'veput in, and, but when you keep
pushing and you get past thosebarriers, those hard, you know
(26:44):
the uphill battles because it'syou know, the growth in your
business and your life is notlinear.
It ebbs and flows and it's, Ithink, that's a big
differentiator between, um, thepeople that, the people that
love the journey and and uh,focus on that, they'll push
(27:06):
through the hard times and pushthrough the, the periods of
doubt, uh, and scarcity.
And if you can just keep pushingthrough each day and learn from
the things, your shortcomings,your failures, any challenges
that you face, and just welcomethose, welcome every challenge,
(27:30):
I mean over the last year, everysingle moment that was I
thought was a bad thing in thattime, or a big challenge, um,
after I overcome it and pushthrough it, there are things
that those are the things thatI'm most grateful for, uh, that
I I'm glad happened and that'sbeen a common theme throughout
(27:52):
my entire life.
Anything, any hardship that I'veever gone through, in that
moment they seem like a terriblething that you wish wasn't
happening, but those are thethings that shape the person you
are and shape kind of the lifethat you have and the resilience
you have to overcome thosethings.
(28:13):
And so I've just I've learnedto love it.
I love challenging days, I loveall the hard things that life
can throw at you, because I knowthat I'm not going to quit and
I'm going to push through thosethings and I'm going to learn
the lessons that they teach youand come out on the other side
(28:33):
better for it.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, jerome, I'll be honest with you, I totally join
you in that sentiment.
On those very difficult days,the words that ring in my own
mind is I always think this iswhat would make other people
quit, this is what makes otherpeople should quit, and that's
where I dig in and I alwaysremind myself I'm not other
people.
This is going to be one ofthose reasons of many along my
(28:55):
journey why I'm going to succeed, and so I so appreciate hearing
that.
I have no idea how you're goingto top all of this wealth of
knowledge and insights for ourlisteners.
But my last question I alwaysask what's your one best piece
of advice?
Knowing that we're beinglistened to by both
entrepreneurs and entrepreneursat all different stages of their
own growth journeys, what'sthat one piece of advice that
you want to leave them withtoday?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, it's hard, but I think it'd probably be
something that I actually wrotedown today, this morning, when I
was writing.
I think the biggest thing ismastering your mindset and, as a
(29:38):
result of that, to have faithin yourself.
For me, I know that I'm able tolook like, be able to see that
if I don't do a certain thingbecause it seems hard or scary,
(29:59):
those are the things that Idon't want to get to the end of
my life and regret having notdone.
You know, like life is tooshort to die with regrets of not
doing things, die with regretsof not doing things.
(30:21):
And I think, for anyone outthere who is questioning whether
they should or can or start abusiness or do this or that,
that my biggest piece of advicewould be if it aligns, if you
truly feel it in your gut and ifit aligns with your life's
(30:43):
values, if you are passionateabout that thing, whatever that
is and it doesn't even have tobe something in business you're
going to regret it more if youdon't try it, and so, with that,
it would just be just take theleap and just have faith in
(31:05):
yourself, because anything thatyou I truly think that if you,
that's the biggest, hardest partis to really really have faith
that you can do what you'retrying to do.
So yeah, that haven't beendoing this for 10 plus years.
(31:41):
I'm 26 years old.
What business do I have instarting an accounting company?
I don't know everything.
I don't have the experiencethat a lot of people have, but
there's the things that I didknow is that whatever I come
(32:03):
across, I know that I'll figureit out and I know that I will
out-care and outwork anyone elsein my own mind, which gave me
the belief that I can do it andand if you just write off that,
it'll be like I.
(32:25):
I can almost guarantee, if youcan align those things with your
purpose, you can.
Anyone can achieve anythingthat you.
That age is just a number.
Experience is just a number.
Experience is just a number.
If you have the drive and thebelief in yourself that you can
do it, you can do anything yes,100.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I so deeply agree with that advice that you gave.
Jerome.
I'm so grateful for you cominghere on the air and sharing it
with our listeners.
You are an entrepreneur down toyour very core and I'm so
appreciative of the work thatyou're doing and the way that
you're doing it.
And I think that all too oftenin business we talk about unique
selling, differentiators andunique selling propositions, and
I think that the biggestuniqueness that we all have is
(33:08):
ourselves and the way that wethink and our own values, and
you're such a shining example ofthat.
Even in your advice.
It's clearly advice that youhave followed, so I'm really
grateful for you coming on theair and sharing that with people
.
I also know that listeners willbe keen to go deeper into all
the great work that you're doing, the way that you're helping
other businesses make thosesmarter financial decisions.
So drop those links on us,jerome.
(33:28):
Where should listeners go fromhere?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, so if you want to reach me uh on linkedin, it's
jerome mckenzie.
Uh, I think you're gonna put alink uh on the on the
description to that.
Um, our website isarrowheadstrategygroupcom and I
can be reached also directly viaemail, jerome j-a-r--O-M-E at
(33:55):
arrowheadsgcom.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yes, listeners, you already know the drill.
Jerome already made my lifeeasy here today.
We're dropping those links downbelow in the show notes.
No matter where it is thatyou're tuning into today's
episodes, you don't have to gohunting very far.
Just click right on throughfrom the show notes down below.
So, jerome, on behalf of myselfand all the listeners worldwide
, thanks so much for coming onthe show today.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Thank you so much.
This was great.
I appreciate you having me.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Hey, it's Brian here, and thanks for tuning in to yet
another episode of theWantrepreneur to Entrepreneur
podcast.
If you haven't checked us outonline, there's so much good
stuff there.
Check out the show's websiteand all the show notes that we
talked about in today's episodeat thewantrepreneurshowcom, and
I just want to give a shout outto our amazing guests.
There's a reason why we are adfree and have produced so many
incredible episodes five days aweek for you, and it's because
(34:47):
our guests step up to the plate.
These are not sponsored episodes.
These are not infomercials.
Our guests help us cover thecosts of our productions.
They so deeply believe in thepower of getting their message
out in front of you, awesomewantrepreneurs and entrepreneurs
, that they contribute to helpus make these productions
possible.
So thank you to not onlytoday's guests, but all of our
(35:09):
guests in general, and I justwant to invite you check out our
website because you can send usa voicemail there.
We also have live chat.
If you want to interactdirectly with me, go to
thewantrepreneurshowcom.
Initiate a live chat.
It's for real me, and I'mexcited because I'll see you, as
always every Monday, wednesday,friday, saturday and Sunday
(35:30):
here on the Wantrepreneur toEntrepreneur podcast.
Hey, what is up?
Welcome to this episode of theEntrepreneur to Entrepreneur
podcast.
As always, I'm your host, brianLoFermento, and I'm so excited
about today's episode andtoday's guest because this is
someone who not only loves whathe does and we're definitely
going to talk about his subjectmatter expertise but this is
someone who also lovesentrepreneurship and all the
possibilities that it opens upfor all of us, on an individual
(00:22):
level and on a community andengagement level.
This is someone who loves thejourney as much as he does the
work that he's doing and how hepositively helps people.
So let me introduce you totoday's guest.
His name is Jerome McKenzie.
Jerome is the founder and CEO ofArrowhead Strategy Group, where
he helps startups and lower tomiddle market companies manage
(00:44):
world-class accounting functionsso that they can make better
business decisions, which isimportant for all of us.
He was born and raised in NewZealand.
He founded his company, like Isaid, arrowhead Strategy Group
in March of 2024.
And, as I said, this is someonewho really loves the journey,
so I love he wrote it for me inhis bio.
He says I'm on a journey tobuild something great.
(01:04):
We are all going gonna learn somuch from Jerome today, not
just about the accountingfunctions that he helps others
with, but how to love thatjourney as well and, of course,
how to build something great.
So I'm excited about this one.
I'm not gonna say anything else.
Let's dive straight into myinterview with Jerome McKenzie.
All right, jerome.
(01:24):
It's not every day that we'rejoined by a Kiwi who is in the
freezing cold of Kansas City,but I have to say welcome to the
show.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Thank you.
Thank you so much, happy to behere.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Heck, yes.
Well, I'm excited to hear yourstory and that love for the
journey and building somethinggreat as well.
Before we get to that stuff,take us beyond the bio.
Who's Jerome?
How'd you start doing all thesecool things?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, so, as you said , I'm born and raised in
Auckland, new Zealand, and how Igot to Kansas City, missouri,
is a little atypical.
One morning after my gap yearafter high school, I was just
working as a house painter,trying to figure out what my
(02:09):
next move was, what I wanted todo with my life, and I had
always known two things forcertain in life.
One was that I always wanted tobe a dad, and the other thing
was that I had always wanted tobe an entrepreneur and own my
own business.
Thing was that I had alwayswanted to be an entrepreneur and
own my own business.
Didn't know exactly what thatmeant, what that looked like,
(02:32):
but those are the two thingsI've always known for certain.
And one morning and I rememberthe date, it was January 17th
2017.
I woke up and I was just hadthis empty feeling of that.
There was like a calling ofsorts uh, to come over to the us
.
I've never been to the statesbefore, uh, but I just felt some
, some sort of internal callingthat there was something uh here
(02:56):
for me and I thought, okay,well, I want to go to college, I
want to get a degree again,don't know what degree.
I want to, uh, wanted, wantedto pursue, but, uh, uh, all
right, how can I do that over inthe U?
S?
And then I, you know, do alittle research and I found out,
oh, college is expensive andcoming from a family that, uh,
(03:19):
you know, we didn't have anabundance of of money.
And also, knowing thatinternational students can't get
scholarship, can't getfinancial aid, and over in US
colleges, I had to figure outokay, well, how am I going to be
able to do that then?
And so I was like well, I seethat you can get scholarships to
(03:39):
come over and play differentsports in college, which is not
something that's actually in NewZealand.
And so I picked a sport and Iliked baseball.
Watching baseball and in NewZealand we play baseball is not
a big sport at all, but I playedsome fast pitch softball that's
(04:03):
kind of the salt that andcricket or the big kind of bat
and ball sports over there.
So I came over, played somebaseball, got a scholarship, was
in West Burlington, iowa, for asemester, got hurt, got cut,
drove down to Kansas City, triedout for a university here and
(04:28):
spent the rest of my collegeupstairs to borrow her vacuum
cleaner one day, and me and myroommate had never vacuumed our
(04:50):
apartment in our three years ofliving there, and we had a dog,
so you can imagine how atrociousthat apartment was.
They let us borrow it, returnedit smelling like three years of
dog hair.
They swore never to let meborrow it again.
They let me borrow it again andnow, uh, that's my wife and
kansas city's home jerome.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I love that story for so many reasons.
I'm sure your wife will lovethe fact that it's made its way
onto the airwaves, beinglistened to by thousands of
people in over 150 countries.
But the fact that really standsout there is the fact that
you've always followed thatintuition and followed your nose
wherever that took you, fromNew Zealand to Iowa to Kansas
(05:33):
City and everywhere in between.
I love how much you've alwayslistened to those insides and
that gut feeling of I want to bean entrepreneur and I also want
to be open to possibilities andI want to pursue those
possibilities.
Talk to us about thatentrepreneurial drive, because I
find that it's two sides of thecoin.
Either someone says I alwaysknew I wanted to be an
entrepreneur or I had no idea.
I wanted to be an entrepreneurand I fell into it.
(05:54):
Where'd that early drive comefrom and how did that land in
your head?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I think the biggest role that that played was my dad
has always been self-employedand he's never in my entire life
worked for another company, sothat was what I grew up around,
(06:21):
and then I just had a naturalkind of gravitation towards that
.
I'm not much of a person whohas, you know, growing up liked
authority.
I like to challenge limits.
I like to challenge you knowthe reasons why for doing things
(06:43):
and and so I've just alwayskind of been drawn to it, for
even from a kind of young age.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, I love that, especially challenging authority
.
It's something that we all faceand I think it even shows in
your university travels ofsaying, yeah, I'm going to try
for this team and I'm going touse my levels of achievement, my
capabilities, to pave my ownpath.
So I really appreciate thatpart of your journey, especially
knowing that you've leveragedthose skills along the way to,
(07:12):
of course, start a business thatis doing really important work
through Arrowhead Strategy Group.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Talk to us about that real world transition from
studying accounting, helpingother businesses with it, to now
running a business of your ownstudying accounting, helping
other businesses with it, to nowrunning a business of your own,
yeah, so I had worked for acouple of different accounting
firms doing accounting financeconsulting, first for a big
(07:37):
public accounting firm that hasoffices all around the world.
Within the first week Irealized that the climbing the
corporate ladder was just notgoing to be my path.
And then I moved and I wasworking for a startup and I
enjoyed that a whole lot more,but still there was just the
(08:00):
aspect of it, that aspect of itthat my like a lack of control
of really.
Basically, like I've alwaysknown that I've wanted to be
directly responsible for theoutcome of my life, whether that
was success or failure.
I wanted my inputs, my effortsto be to determine the output of
(08:23):
my life.
And and it's kind of funny howI kind of got into starting an
accounting firm I discoveredback in early 2022, I believe
(08:44):
the whole concept of buying anexisting small business, you
know, with SBA financing, kindof the self-funded searcher
model, and I went all in on that, almost closed on a business
actually in your home of Tampawhen we lived in Florida a
(09:06):
couple years ago, and my onlycriteria at the time for
pursuing that was that I thoughtI absolutely don't want to buy
an accounting firm.
And it was through that processof no-transcript and that was
(09:49):
pretty sad for me to see.
And so that's the idea thatkind of sparked Starting Our
Head.
It was that I wanted to helpbusiness owners maximize the
value for their life's work, fortheir business.
And I started it off with kindof what I knew which was having
(10:16):
different clients andeffectively serving as their
accounting function in theirbusinesses.
And then through a friend ofmine who owns a sell side M&A
advisory firm, stonebridgeadvisors he I was talking
through this idea with him of Ijust want to get a few clients
(10:39):
and build it up, and then kindof to the point where I could
replace my income and thenfigure out what I want to do.
Because I was going throughbeginning of last year a bit of
a transformation on kind ofreflecting which way I wanted to
(11:00):
go with my life and whetherbuying a business was the right
path for me, what kind ofbusiness kind of.
I was kind of lost at thatpoint.
But just over a year ago and hesaid so you want to start an
accounting firm?
I was like well, no, because Iwas set on this idea that that
(11:21):
was what I never wanted to buy.
And I said I just want to getsome clients and then figure out
what I want to do.
And he said, so you want tostart an accounting firm?
And I was like, well, yeah, Iguess so technically.
And then the next day I decidedto go all in on it and he said
something that was prettyinfluential in how I went about
(11:46):
it, because I thought it wassomething that I could build up
and then quit my job and then gofrom there.
And he put in me the idea to,if you don't have a plan B, then
you will make your plan A work.
And so I went that route and Iquit my job with no clients,
(12:13):
with not much saved in the bank,and I and just like a very
small, you know, a few years ofa 401k built up that I was ready
to liquidate and kind of cover,give me a runway of about six
or seven months.
And then, as soon as I did that, things started falling into
(12:36):
place.
And he was, you know, he wasright, and I'm really glad I did
it that way.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, jerome, burn the boats.
That's always been one of myfavorite historical stories,
because when early settlersburned the boats, they had no
other choice.
It has to work.
And hearing that about you,jerome, I just feel like this is
already a recurring theme thisearly on in our conversation
today, which is that youconsistently bet on yourself,
something that you said in there.
You said I want to be the onethat controls my outcomes in
(13:04):
life.
You want to be that one, jerome, but that's because you believe
in yourself, that's because youbet on yourself.
Talk to me about that mindset.
I would imagine that kind ofthe baseball player inside of
you, the athlete, the person whobelieves in yourself that
manifests in all aspects of yourlife.
I'd love to get into thatmindset that powers you and
enables you to make that betthat a lot of people are afraid
(13:25):
of.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, and, to be honest, like that's something
that has been a hugetransformation in myself to
build, especially over the lastyear.
Um, the person that I was ayear ago, uh, compared Like, for
example, a year ago, when Ilike I would wake as soon as I
(13:48):
had my last day at my former job.
I would wake up and the routinefor the first couple of months
was wake up, feel like I'm goingto be sick, question what I was
, what I had done, and then haveto get into the mindset to kind
of take action that day and tomake what I'm trying to do a
(14:10):
reality.
And, like the mindset piece hasbeen something that has at
times been a struggle, but it'ssomething that I know how
important it is, that I know howimportant it is and really it's
.
There's a book that I now readevery single day.
It's kind of like my ownpersonal Bible that I read a
(14:34):
chapter of it every day and myintention is to continue doing
that till the day I die.
Is this book called the masterkey system?
It's it's older than Think andGrow Rich, but it's based around
the same concept of the laws ofthe universe and it focuses a
(14:54):
lot as well on the belief thatyou have to have internally to
be able to create those resultsin your external world.
And it makes a lot of sense forme, when you think about it,
like when you zoom out and youcan actually think about just
the concept and separate it fromyourself that if you don't
(15:17):
believe fully in what you'resetting out to do, or in
yourself, then it's going tomake things very, very difficult
to become reality.
And so that's really thebiggest like that's the things
from like that book and then,you know, from other books like
(15:39):
it, and is really now thepillars of what I base my life
on.
And it's really centered aroundfor me, knowing what's
important for me, what kind oflife I want, what my purpose is,
what values that I stand for,and basing every single decision
(16:01):
in my life around those things.
So for me it's my family, it'smy wife, it's my future kids
like God willing and being ableto be able to feel and see the
type of life that I want, andthat then translates into my
(16:22):
business purpose, which is whatam I passionate about?
Cause, like, if, if I'm, if, ifanyone in my industry is being
completely honest, there's athere's a limit to how
passionate you can be aboutaccounting and numbers, right,
it's a very data driven,analytical, black and white
industry, but I found my why inthat and something just in my
(16:49):
life in general that is what I'mpassionate about is helping
people, and so I've found a wayto All right.
So if I am passionate abouthelping people, how can I base
my business around that?
And that's what I, so that'show I run my business and how I
(17:10):
operate my business, and thething that I'm most passionate
about in my business is therelationships that I can make
with people, and I'm veryblessed and fortunate to have
clients that value those thingsas well and have really, really
great relationships.
And, like my goal is always tohave the relationships with
(17:34):
anyone who I meet in life,whether it's a client or
otherwise, to go deeper than atransactional level, because
transactional relationships I I,quite frankly, I, I really I
really don't like them.
Um, they make me feel kind ofuncomfortable, like just the
feeling of something that's justsolely based on a transaction.
(17:55):
Uh, I don't, I don't like.
And so I just asked myself thequestion why?
Why do I have to haverelationships that are just
transactional and that's what Idon't?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, jerome, so many powerful insights in there.
You really make me think ofthat Henry Ford quote that I've
long been a fan of, where hesaid whether you think you can
or you can't, you're right andit happens from within our minds
.
And that's really cool to hearhow, on a daily basis, you are
practicing that.
That's the stuff that you'reputting into your mind.
So it doesn't surprise me thatit manifests itself in not only
(18:28):
your business but in your life,and I think that it's so clear
how much you're value-driven inthe way that you operate across
the board.
You brought up that importantpillar of relationships to you
and I feel like it's advice thata lot of entrepreneurial
podcasts have.
We read it in business books.
Talk to us about thoserelationships, because I'm with
you.
I mean you and I.
Before we hit record today, weactually didn't even talk about
(18:48):
business at all.
We talked about geography, wetalked about things that you and
I had in common, and so we gotto, and I very much look forward
to the day we get to have acoffee together in person and
it's clear to me that that's theway that you operate.
Talk to us about thatrelationship building because,
especially newer entrepreneurs.
I think that they are sofocused on sales, they are so
(19:09):
focused on their accounting andtheir financial situation that
they forget about truerelationships.
So take us there, jerome.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, no, focus on sales, which, like I very
quickly uh realized that that is, you know, that is, uh, one of
my biggest jobs now is is sales,uh, and sales is also something
that I uh I have alwayshistorically kind of attached a
(19:39):
negative feeling, negative uhconnotation towards, because a
mentor of mine once used thephrase sales, sales breath,
which I love to kind of referback to.
You know, like the kind of thefeeling when you you might have
(20:00):
if you go to like a cardealership or you know the, the,
you know door-to-door salesmenthat really come across with
like that sales breath, and Iwas like, uh, all right, I, that
is something that I don't wantto have.
And so how can I, how can Imake the sales component not
feel salesy to me?
And then it all came, came backto okay, well, well, what do I
(20:24):
love doing?
And it's having conversationswith people, building
relationships with people thatgo deeper than just that top
surface level call is to my solegoal, when you know, meeting a
(20:50):
new person, whether it's aprospective client or just
anyone new, is to get on andjust to see how much I can
connect with that person, andthen really everything is just
based around kind of the, thecore values that I've uh set as
kind of non-negotiables for mylife.
So authenticity, uh, havingempathy, uh a really important
(21:14):
one for me, being a net giver.
So how can I, how can I engagein like a uh a competition of
generosity and and try and give,uh give value to, to, to you or
to someone else?
Another one that is something Ipractice every day is gratitude
(21:41):
and always being grateful forwhere I'm at the growth I've had
the things I have, the growthof I've had the things I have
another one and takingintentional action every day
that align with the rest of yourpurpose and your mission in
life, and then always having anabundance mindset, even though
that one can be.
You know that can be tricky.
Some days are harder thanothers.
(22:02):
You know that can be tricky,some days, uh, harder than
others.
But um, yeah, the relationshipside of things is um is the most
important thing for me and umlike uh.
You might be familiar with uh anold clip of simon sinek where
he talks about the uh, the howand why, and a lot of companies
(22:27):
go from the what, the how, andthen they don't know what their
why is, but the great companiesand he talked about the Wright
Brothers and Apple start withwhy?
Obviously his book, obviouslyhis book, and and so that's a.
(22:50):
That's another great lens thatI like to look at at my business
through is at the beginning ofit all, you know, the idea that
sparked it all was a why and itwas to to help people.
And then it was was, then itwas kind of figuring out all
right, how can I do that?
Um, and so, knowing what my whyis, and then uh from the
(23:13):
beginning, and then working, uh,working out from there has, uh,
is, is the way I like to do it.
It's the way that that allowsme to wake up every morning
excited and where a Mondaymorning feels the exact same as
a Friday afternoon to me.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
And yeah, yeah, jerome, I'll tell you what.
Hearing all of this, I wouldsay from the outside, looking in
and just having looked at yourwork and having a chance to
interact with you here today,it's not just about your why.
What I really appreciate isthat you also love the journey.
It's something that I teased atthe very top of today's episode
, and the more you and Iinteract, I think of that quote.
I'm obviously a sucker forquotes, the way that you're a
(23:54):
sucker for books and obtainingthe wisdom of others through
that mechanism.
I love that quote of the manwho loves walking will walk
farther than the man who lovesthe destination.
Talk to us about the journey,because I'll tell you this as
the host of this show for over1100 episodes.
I think the one thing thatplagues entrepreneurs the most
is impatience for results.
They're all looking for thatresult, whereas I think it's
(24:16):
safe to say for both you and Ithat we love the entrepreneurial
journey, which sometimes meansresults are going to be delayed,
sometimes it's going to feellike the results are never going
to come at all, but we have tokeep walking along that journey.
Talk to us about the mindsetbehind that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, no, it's, and again, that's another, that's
another thing that has uh, Ifeel, at least for me it has.
It's something that you have towork on and you have to keep
reminding yourself, uh, uh, howimportant it is.
As you know, the most importantthing, and it's, um, like the
(24:54):
journey is, uh, is 99 of it, andI think you know it's, there's,
there's, like there's alwaysgoing to be.
You know, especially in likeyou're in business to to make a
profit, to earn money, and youknow what that money can do for
you and your company and thepeople you can help with it.
Like that's all important stuff, but, um, the, the way I think
(25:19):
about it as well, is that I,those are results of the daily
things you do day in, day out,and staying true to your purpose
and your mission.
Like that will create theresults, uh, and which you know,
the destination, whether thoseare kind of destinations along
(25:42):
the way and or, or if you have a, you know, a big end goal type
thing.
So, like I, um the journey isjust if it, it becomes easier to
do for me when I do things thatare in line with my purpose and
(26:02):
with what I'm passionate aboutand what gives me fulfillment,
and it's uh, it's it just makesmore sense to me to do things
you enjoy, so that every dayalong that journey it's a
(26:22):
journey of growth.
There might be a couple of weekswhere things are hard and you
don't see the results of theeffort you've put in, don't see
the results of the effort you'veput in, and, but when you keep
pushing and you get past thosebarriers, those hard, you know
(26:44):
the uphill battles because it'syou know, the growth in your
business and your life is notlinear.
It ebbs and flows and it's, Ithink, that's a big
differentiator between, um, thepeople that, the people that
love the journey and and uh,focus on that, they'll push
(27:06):
through the hard times and pushthrough the, the periods of
doubt, uh, and scarcity.
And if you can just keep pushingthrough each day and learn from
the things, your shortcomings,your failures, any challenges
that you face, and just welcomethose, welcome every challenge,
(27:30):
I mean over the last year, everysingle moment that was I
thought was a bad thing in thattime, or a big challenge, um,
after I overcome it and pushthrough it, there are things
that those are the things thatI'm most grateful for, uh, that
I I'm glad happened and that'sbeen a common theme throughout
(27:52):
my entire life.
Anything, any hardship that I'veever gone through, in that
moment they seem like a terriblething that you wish wasn't
happening, but those are thethings that shape the person you
are and shape kind of the lifethat you have and the resilience
you have to overcome thosethings.
(28:13):
And so I've just I've learnedto love it.
I love challenging days, I loveall the hard things that life
can throw at you, because I knowthat I'm not going to quit and
I'm going to push through thosethings and I'm going to learn
the lessons that they teach youand come out on the other side
(28:33):
better for it.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, jerome, I'll be honest with you, I totally join
you in that sentiment.
On those very difficult days,the words that ring in my own
mind is I always think this iswhat would make other people
quit, this is what makes otherpeople should quit, and that's
where I dig in and I alwaysremind myself I'm not other
people.
This is going to be one ofthose reasons of many along my
(28:55):
journey why I'm going to succeed, and so I so appreciate hearing
that.
I have no idea how you're goingto top all of this wealth of
knowledge and insights for ourlisteners.
But my last question I alwaysask what's your one best piece
of advice?
Knowing that we're beinglistened to by both
entrepreneurs and entrepreneursat all different stages of their
own growth journeys, what'sthat one piece of advice that
you want to leave them withtoday?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, it's hard, but I think it'd probably be
something that I actually wrotedown today, this morning, when I
was writing.
I think the biggest thing ismastering your mindset and, as a
(29:38):
result of that, to have faithin yourself.
For me, I know that I'm able tolook like, be able to see that
if I don't do a certain thingbecause it seems hard or scary,
(29:59):
those are the things that Idon't want to get to the end of
my life and regret having notdone.
You know, like life is tooshort to die with regrets of not
doing things, die with regretsof not doing things.
(30:21):
And I think, for anyone outthere who is questioning whether
they should or can or start abusiness or do this or that,
that my biggest piece of advicewould be if it aligns, if you
truly feel it in your gut and ifit aligns with your life's
(30:43):
values, if you are passionateabout that thing, whatever that
is and it doesn't even have tobe something in business you're
going to regret it more if youdon't try it, and so, with that,
it would just be just take theleap and just have faith in
(31:05):
yourself, because anything thatyou I truly think that if you,
that's the biggest, hardest partis to really really have faith
that you can do what you'retrying to do.
So yeah, that haven't beendoing this for 10 plus years.
(31:41):
I'm 26 years old.
What business do I have instarting an accounting company?
I don't know everything.
I don't have the experiencethat a lot of people have, but
there's the things that I didknow is that whatever I come
(32:03):
across, I know that I'll figureit out and I know that I will
out-care and outwork anyone elsein my own mind, which gave me
the belief that I can do it andand if you just write off that,
it'll be like I.
(32:25):
I can almost guarantee, if youcan align those things with your
purpose, you can.
Anyone can achieve anythingthat you.
That age is just a number.
Experience is just a number.
Experience is just a number.
If you have the drive and thebelief in yourself that you can
do it, you can do anything yes,100.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I so deeply agree with that advice that you gave.
Jerome.
I'm so grateful for you cominghere on the air and sharing it
with our listeners.
You are an entrepreneur down toyour very core and I'm so
appreciative of the work thatyou're doing and the way that
you're doing it.
And I think that all too oftenin business we talk about unique
selling, differentiators andunique selling propositions, and
I think that the biggestuniqueness that we all have is
(33:08):
ourselves and the way that wethink and our own values, and
you're such a shining example ofthat.
Even in your advice.
It's clearly advice that youhave followed, so I'm really
grateful for you coming on theair and sharing that with people
.
I also know that listeners willbe keen to go deeper into all
the great work that you're doing, the way that you're helping
other businesses make thosesmarter financial decisions.
So drop those links on us,jerome.
(33:28):
Where should listeners go fromhere?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, so if you want to reach me uh on linkedin, it's
jerome mckenzie.
Uh, I think you're gonna put alink uh on the on the
description to that.
Um, our website isarrowheadstrategygroupcom and I
can be reached also directly viaemail, jerome j-a-r--O-M-E at
(33:55):
arrowheadsgcom.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yes, listeners, you already know the drill.
Jerome already made my lifeeasy here today.
We're dropping those links downbelow in the show notes.
No matter where it is thatyou're tuning into today's
episodes, you don't have to gohunting very far.
Just click right on throughfrom the show notes down below.
So, jerome, on behalf of myselfand all the listeners worldwide
, thanks so much for coming onthe show today.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Thank you so much.
This was great.
I appreciate you having me.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Hey, it's Brian here, and thanks for tuning in to yet
another episode of theWantrepreneur to Entrepreneur
podcast.
If you haven't checked us outonline, there's so much good
stuff there.
Check out the show's websiteand all the show notes that we
talked about in today's episodeat thewantrepreneurshowcom, and
I just want to give a shout outto our amazing guests.
There's a reason why we are adfree and have produced so many
incredible episodes five days aweek for you, and it's because
(34:47):
our guests step up to the plate.
These are not sponsored episodes.
These are not infomercials.
Our guests help us cover thecosts of our productions.
They so deeply believe in thepower of getting their message
out in front of you, awesomewantrepreneurs and entrepreneurs
, that they contribute to helpus make these productions
possible.
So thank you to not onlytoday's guests, but all of our
(35:09):
guests in general, and I justwant to invite you check out our
website because you can send usa voicemail there.
We also have live chat.
If you want to interactdirectly with me, go to
thewantrepreneurshowcom.
Initiate a live chat.
It's for real me, and I'mexcited because I'll see you, as
always every Monday, wednesday,friday, saturday and Sunday
(35:30):
here on the Wantrepreneur toEntrepreneur podcast.
Popular Podcasts
Are You A Charlotte?
In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com