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They're very, very dangerous. If these Spidey sense, you know,
I was like, oh, something's off.And I'm just like, man, I'm
waiting to hear something. You know what's going on, guys?

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And welcome to another edition. I don't know when this is coming
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joining me tonight, he joined meback during the Halloween
season. I'm so glad to have him back.
I would say he's a conspiracy theorist savant.
Other people may say that he's aBigfoot guy, but I'm joined by
Mr. Ghostly Hunter from parent Hunters of the paranormal.
How's it going man? It's.

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Going well. Can you hear me OK out there?
Perfect. Awesome.
It's good to be back with you. I really enjoyed your show the
last time and I hope you enjoy what I got have to say for you
tonight. So.
Yeah, man. So for those of you guys that
did catch the first episode, it was a live stream.
It's on the it's on Spotify, Apple, all those places.

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He had a really good, kind of, Iguess you could say National
Park, park Ranger type weird situation.
It was a, it was a really good story.
I kept asking him. It was funny.
I had to, I listened back to like a couple months ago and I
was like, man, I was like, where's where's he, where's he

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taking me? I was like, where's he taking?
I kept asking you, OK, but what about the, the cover up?
But he ended up getting to the end.
It was a good crescendo because there's a lot of weird stuff
that's going on nowadays. You know, we have a lot of Park
Rangers getting fired. We have different park entities
and, you know, being let go. But before we get to that,

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before I ask you a question, before we got, you know, live
recording, I guess we're technically live, but we're
recording. You had a story about your
grandfather. Yes, Sir.
Let's hear that. I want, I want people to hear
that cuz you said it was. It's pretty, pretty out there
and I like that. OK, I'll try to do the best that

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I can. And the way I remember it when I
was a little kid, I was probablythe first time I ever heard
about it was when I was 7 or 8 years old.
And it was just, I heard my, my mom and dad talking about it and
I caught something about my grandfather meeting someone that
basically took him on board a spacecraft and went somewhere.

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And so, you know, as a little kid, you, you, you pay attention
to things like that, especially me, 'cause I, I liked Star Wars
and all that. I got to see that in the
theaters, you know, as a kid grew up on Buck Rogers and Star
Trek and you know, the, the normal Battlestar Galactica
stuff. But I, and I always loved space.

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And I remember when I was little, I went to my it'd be my
great. I'm privileged enough to that I
got to meet my great grandmotherand grandfather and I got to
stay there one rare occasion with him.
I'd stay go and see him every now and then and my dad would go
like work on his race cars and stuff.
And that's what my grandfather was into race cars too as a

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hobby that and I would stay withmy go over and stay with my
great grandmother and grandfather and, you know, just
kind of hang out for the day while they're working on stuff.
And I remember there was a show back in the 70s and it was
called Logan's Run. I don't know if you've ever seen
it. Logan's Run is the one where
they live in the Dome city and you when once you reach a

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certain age, you basically are terminated at the age of 30, I
think, or something like that. But anyway, I tried to watch
that show and it was coming on. I was so excited.
I was going to get to see that show and I was just foaming at
the mouth as a little kid wanting to watch it.
And then my, my great grandmother and grandfather,
they just shut that, they shut that show off.

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They wouldn't let me watch it. And, and I was just, I, you
know, it's kind of mad, didn't understand at the time.
So later on I, I find out when I'm about 13, I remembered that
story and we was over at my grand grandfather's house.
And I'll come back to why they turned off the, the TV with that

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show anyway. And so I'm talking to my
grandfather and I asked him about it and he, he starts to go
into detail about the, the, his encounter.
Well, the reason why they had shut that TV off was because
they tried to tell him he was crazy and they, you know, mocked
him, made fun of him. And he, they just break him down

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into tears because he, you know,believed it was true.
It to him, it happened. It was an encounter that he had
and an experience that he had and nobody would believe him.
And so I, I asked him about it. And so this is the story that
he, that he told me. He worked in a factory and my,

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my dad had a brother and a sister and they would have been
young and this would have been around the time, I don't know if
any of your listeners out there have heard of Valiant Thor where
they supposedly landed. And he spent like a year or
something like the in the Pentagon or more, it might have
been a little more, but there's a guy by the name of Doctor
Frankie Strange's if anybody wants to look it up.

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And he'll he talks about ValiantThor.
But so it would have been aroundthe same time it would, and I'm
guessing it would been 59, maybe60 somewhere in there.
And my dad was little and my hisbrother and sister were little.
So my grandfather had three little kids at the time.

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And so he's working in a factoryand he worked in shipping and
like shipping and handling like he would, they would load stuff
up on trucks and ship it out or whatever.
And so this guy gets gets hired on and at night it gets kind of
slowed where they they can talk,you know, and about different
things. And so the topic comes up about

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is about life in the universe. And my grandfather asks the this
guy that has just hired on, he said, do you believe that
there's could be, you know, extraterrestrials or, you know,
life on other planets or whatever?
And this this guy looks at my grandfather and he said yes.
He said I believe that there's extraterrestrials and that

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there's life. And he said the reason why I
believe it is because I am 1. And so he tells my grandfather
that he was from the planet Venus and he said like, they
don't live on the outside of theplanet, you know, 'cause it's so
hot. But he said they lived on the
interior of the planet. And he said like the cloud cover
on the outside was, was basically made by them.

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They made the cloud cover. So like satellites and stuff,
couldn't, you know, penetrate the cloud cover to see like
their entrances and, and different things like that.
So he talking to my grandfather and my grandfather's thinking,
you know, this guy's kind of kind of odd, you know, and my
grandfather's really not buying into it.

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And so the guy asked my grandfather.
He said if you had an opportunity to, you know, go to
another planet, where would you like to go to?
And he said, and would you go? And my grandfather said, oh,
yeah. He said I would.
He said, I would like to do that.
I'd like to go. And he said my grandfather told

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him. He said he would like to go to
Mars is where he would like to go.
And so the guy said, well, if I could arrange it, would you go?
And he said absolutely I'll go. And so the guy told him, he said
come and pick me up and meet me at such and such and and I'll
take you. And so my grandfather, he, he

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goes to take him home and drop him off that night.
And he said, my grandfather saidthat back in those days, because
my grandfather was familiar withrace cars and suspension.
You know, anybody that races knows that, you know, suspension
is key. A lot of times like, like
suspension can beat, you know, beat a high, a fast engine if
their cars aren't handling right.
So my grandfather was into that kind of stuff and he said back

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in those days, the suspension onthe cars weren't very good.
So they had a lot of gravel roads and they were washboard
roads. I don't know if you've ever been
out in the country and you hit awashboard, you know, gravel, it
just basically shakes your car to death and about rattle your
teeth out of your head. And so he is taking this guy

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home and they hit a washboard road and it's just like shaking
the car all over the place. And then all the sudden the guy
looks at at my grandfather and he said, he said, you notice
anything different about the car?
And my grandfather said, yeah. He said the car, the car smooth,
the, you know, the suspension smoothed out, the roads gotten
smoother. And the guy looked at him and he
said no, that roads not smoothedout or gotten any smoother.

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He said, I'm, I'm, I'm lifting it up off the ground.
And my grandfather said he was making the car with his using
his mind somehow with, with his mind was making the car lift off
the ground a smooth and they were going along.
You know what I'm saying? I don't know if if I explained
that right. But so anyway, he goes, they

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they go home and he lets the guyout and the guy is showing him
over his house. There's these three stars and
they in the shape of like a, a pyramid, like one at the top and
two at the bottom. And he told him, he said those
are our ships up there. And so he tells my grandfather

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come and get him like the next day or whatever and he'll take
him out in the country and they'll, they'll go on on board
spacecraft. So my grandfather, he goes and
he picks the guy up. And I got to tell you before
that I, I'm getting ahead of myself here.
The guy told my grandfather thathe had never been with a woman.

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And the reason why they were here was they were doing
research and he said he'd never been with a woman and wondered
if my grandfather could arrange for him to meet, you know, meet
a woman to be with. And so my grandfather, being a
little ornery, I guess, knew where the red light district was
and took that guy to a place, I guess you could call it the
brothel or whatever. He said.

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They went in and my grandfather went and sat in like a a little
room and the women came in and the guy picked one out and they
went upstairs and he said he wasn't up there no more in
probably 5 or 10 minutes. And here he comes down the
stairs and the woman's coming down behind him and she's like
looking at him and just shaking her head like in disbelief, you
know. And so he couldn't figure out,

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you know, what had happened. And my grandfather said back
then and even now, you know, like you don't ask people, you
know their personal business. Well, you know what happened.
So he didn't ask. So anyway they leave he arranged
for him to pick my to pick him up and he's going to take him.
And so my grandfather goes pickshim up and they they drive out

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in the country for a while and the guy tells him he says turn
down this little as a little patlike a little dirt Rd. that went
into a woods. And so my grandfather pulled the
car off and he headed start downinto the towards the woods
through this, you know, little path.
And he said inside this woods was a like a like a square

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Meadow. And he said sitting in the
middle of the Meadow was a classic silver disc UFO shaped
with the door down. He said they got out, they got
out of the car, they boarded thecraft.
And he said there was three other ones in I think he said
there was three other ones in there.
And he said to see them, they look just like us.

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He said you would never even know that they were
extraterrestrials. They look just identical to us.
And so he told they, they introduced, he introduced him to
the captain of the ship and everything.
And so they boarded. They get settled in and I think
I asked him what it looked like on the inside.
And he said there was a lot of panels and lights and, and
different things. And he said they sit him down

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and he said they started to takeoff.
And he said it went up in the air, the ship, the, the ship
went up in the air. And he said they got above the
atmosphere and he said they could got to where they could.
He could look out. And I don't know if he's looking
on a screen or a window. I don't remember him saying
screen or window, but he said hecould see the Earth.

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And he said it, it looked like areal pretty blue marble looking
thing. And he said just in, in just
like they flipped a switch or snapped their fingers, he said,
they jumped from our atmosphere to the atmosphere of Mars.
And they're starting to come down into the atmosphere of
Mars. So as they're coming down, as

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they're coming down the atmosphere, the captain and the
others start telling my grandfather, they said, as we we
go down here, we wanted to let you know that there's life,
there's life down here. And he said, we're going to show
you that there's there's life here and that there are, you
know, creatures that live here. And he said, but in no way,

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shape or form are we supposed tomake contact.
You are not to try to reach out to him, not try to talk to him,
nothing that you're, you're not supposed to.
We're not supposed to make contact.
And so my grandfather said they land and there there's like
these. He said there was just boulders
everywhere, these great big boulders.
And he said they're, they're peeking around these boulders

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and there's these cave like things going down into the
ground and hear these creatures come up out of this cave.
And I asked my grandfather. I said, well, what did these?
I said, well, what did them things look like?
And my grandfather said they look like what we would describe
here on earth as a Bigfoot. So I heard, I, I've talked to a

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Bigfoot hunter that said that the Bigfoot had told people
before, you know, the ones that supposed to flee communicate
with them that they come from a planet with where there's two
moons. So that I've heard that and Mars
has two moons. And I found that interesting
later on, you know, of course. That is definitely interesting,

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only I'm going to stop you therefor a second.
OK. Man, OK, I didn't.
OK, that's he. I didn't realize that she was
going, you know, I was thinking it was going to be something
more or less like he was abducted.
But so let me let me ask you this and I want to make sure
that I clarify this because I'm my brain is trying to wrap
around, I mean, you just, you just dropped a few bombs on us

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now, man. You just kind of you kind of
drop some heat on us there. So did he work with this guy at
the factory that he was working at?
Yes, he he, he did. He worked with him.
But it's going to get even stranger.
Well, yeah, look, OK, look before we get there, another
another question I had is so this guy just looked like a

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normal dude, like someone just everyday life.
Yes, if you look at the if you see the pictures of Valiant
Thor, he just looks like he looks like he could be either
Italian or Greek, like a Greek man there.
He's like 6 foot tall, you know,and they and then there's a
woman with him. If you've seen, you know, if you

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have seen the picture of him, there's a doctor, Frankie
Stranges has the pictures of them there.
And you can, if you type in Valiant Thor, you'll see the
black and white pictures of them.
And I think it's hybrid. Highbridge, New Jersey is where
they're at. And there was a guy by the name
of Howard Menger that also had an experience with Venusians
around the same time. So that's at least two different

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ones that I'd heard of before mygrandfather.
But I'd heard that story about my grandfather way before I ever
heard Frankie Stranges. And I'll tell you about some
stuff that's very similar to what Frankie Stranges says here
in a little, but go ahead, I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, no, no, you I that's you're you're you're you're killing it.
That's the details I was about to start asking about.

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And so this he looks like an every everyday guy did So when
he picked when he picked this guy up, did he pick him up at
his house? Was his house look the house
look normal? It was just like an apartment,
like it would have been like an apartment place is where they
would have went to. OK, and then when?
So when he picked him up, they went like in the morning time.

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They just immediately went in the middle of the day.
This thing was out there. Yeah, that's the way I take it.
And he said it was in the end ofdaylight.
They just pulled up in the in this woods like a just a like in
a farmer's field going back to awoods.
A patch of woods went in there and there was a little like a
little square pasture in there with the with the UFO sitting

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right in the middle of it, a disc shaped object.
And did OK. And before I guess before we get
to the rest of the story, he mentioned, you mentioned
Bigfoot. And I know there's going to be a
lot of people, you know, we mentioned Bigfoot anytime people
are going to be asking. I'm just curious as people hear
this story, is anyone out there have heard you know what what

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the what Mr. Hunter is saying about the two moons?
I feel like I've heard that before somewhere.
Do you know if I can't remember it?
Was it someone that maybe mentioned it like like?
Yeah. Go ahead.
I'm sorry. I know.
Go ahead. The it's a famous researcher.
I I TomTom something. Let me see.

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I may have the book getting. Can you give me just a second?
Yeah, Yeah. Let me look and see if I got the
book. Yeah.
And I'll, so basically what I'm,what I'm kind of curious on to
everyone who's going to hear this.
Have you heard that? Has there been any tribes or
nations out there? If you're part of that, have any
type of, you know, lore or mythology or stories about the

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two moons? Because I'm, I'm very interested
in hearing that because I feel like I've heard that before.
But also too, as we're at the like the midway point of this
story in the comments below. Let me know what you guys think.
Yeah, he's he's bringing the heat.
OK. He's got the book here.
No, I don't have the book. I actually the person that that

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loaned me the book, I, I had to send it back to him.
It was a guy that was hunting Bigfoot and he he stopped by and
stayed with me and he had an encounter.
Me and him had an encounter here.
I took him to the spot. But anyway, the guy's name is
shoot, his name is Tom. He's an older guy and he was a
surveyor. Out West and he's the one, I

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think he's the one that said that about the two moons that
then I think that's where I got it from.
Yeah, that that Bigfoot, that Bigfoot theory is, is pretty
interesting to me. That's something that if anybody
out there, when you hear this, let let me know.
Shoot me a message or e-mail me,whatever.
But let's let's, let's Mr. Hunter, let's finish on with

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that, with that story. I want to hear.
The OK, the more strangeness. OK, on the on the way the on the
trip, I'll go in there. They basically made my
grandfather an offer and they said if you if you want to come
and live with us on Venus, we will take you there.
He and he said you can live withus for 10 years.

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And they told him, they said that your brain capacity will be
so great when you come back thatthe pert the at the, the person
here on earth with the greatest,like highest IQ would have the
what they say, like they would seem to have the intelligence of
a monkey compared to what you will be able to, to do.
Your mental capacity will be that high.

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And you're, you know, you'll just have learned that much.
And my grandfather, he, he thought about it and he thought,
no, I got 3 little kids. He said I would love to go and,
but he said I can't. He just said I, I can't, I have
to take care of my kids. So my, my grandfather said, no,
I, I can't do that. But they actually offered him to
go and stay with them. And on the way there, they also

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told him, they told him the nameof the ship, like the ship
captain or whatever. And it told him the ship captain
told him his name. And he told my grandfather.
He said, if you or any of your family are ever in any trouble,
he said all you have to do is say my name and we'll be there
to help you. We'll we'll come immediately to

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help with whatever it is somebody hurt dying or whatever,
they'll be there to help. And so anyway, Long story short,
they are on the surface watchingthese creatures coming up out of
the thing look like Bigfoot, he said.
He said they was covered in hairfrom head to toe.
They but they had arms and legs just like we do and kind of

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humanoid features. And he said he got so excited.
Now this is where it takes a kind of a bad turn.
But he said he got so excited that he couldn't help himself.
And he said that that the as that creature was approaching
kind of over towards where they were at my grandfather, he said

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he, he, he just was so excited and he wanted just to shout out,
I, you know, we're here, you know, there there's life on
earth, you know, and I can't believe it.
And, you know, and he tried to go around to meet, meet this
thing face to face, which he wastold strictly not to on the way
there. And as he went around the
boulder to come to meet this thing, he was face to face with

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it. And it just immediately he was,
it was like he was zapped and blacked out.
And he said the next thing you know, he was bouncing half on
and half off of his bed. Like somebody had picked him up
and threw him on the bed. And he was had his clothes on
and he's bouncing up down on thebed, you know, because they've
just threw him on the bed and then left and he's and left.

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So he goes back to work the nextday and the guy's gone.
Like the guy is not there. It's like he's never been there.
Like nobody even knows who this guy is.
You know, there's like no recordhe of him.
And my grandfather thinking is thinking he's going crazy, like
he's going nuts. You know, he's thinking, am I

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having a mental breakdown or, orwhat's going on here?
And so he gets to remember and my grandfather gets to remember
that he went to, he took that guy to that brothel where that
woman was at, where he went up in the room with the woman,
right. And so he thought, man, I got to
go and see if she knows anything.
And so he goes in there, finds this lady.

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And he asked this lady. He said, do you remember, I
don't know, a few days or weeks or whatever back that I brought
this guy in here and you guys went upstairs and she looked at
my grandfather and she said, yeah, I, I remember you and him
coming in here. And, and he said, well, do you
mind if I ask you, you know, personal question?

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He said what happened up there, by the way, and she said it was
the weirdest thing. She said once we got in the
room, she said he didn't want todo anything like, you know,
physical or anything. All he wanted to do was just
interview her. Like with interview questions
like why she did what she did, how she did, what she did, you

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know, like anatomy questions andthis and that.
So that. That's pretty much the end of
the story there. But one of the things I asked my
dad when he was a little kid, I,you know, I went, I asked him, I
said, when you were a little kid, did you when all that was
going on, do you ever remember seeing anything?
And he said my grandfather took him out in the country to show

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him where, where all that happened.
And when they was driving out into the country where that
happened, he said he's my dad actually saw a craft come up.
I don't know if it come out of the woods or whatever, but it
came up and it just hovered. And he said it looked like a
silver bullet. And he said that thing just shot
off just like in the blink of aneye, just as fast, as fast as,
you know, in the blink of an eye, it shot off.

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So my dad actually got to see it.
And so another weird thing aboutthis whole deal is, you know, in
the movie close Encounters of the Third Kind, where he's
sitting in the truck and he's reading the map and you can hear
him talking on the radio to the people.
And they said, where are you guys?

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Where are you guys sitting at or, or where are you sitting at?
And and he said, I'm sitting here on Cornbread road.
And if you know about a close encounters that show shot in
Muncie. And that's where I grew up, was
up around Muncie, IN and the road my dad grew up on was
Cornbread Rd. Whoa.

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So, and then in the 70s, in the 70s, there was big, like a big
UFO sightings around where we lived at.
And they have like a UFO where they, you call it a flap, I
guess, where people saw it. And I remember as a little kid
standing at the back door and myparents were outside and they
were watching this. The whole neighborhood was

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watching it. Like everybody was outside in
their yards and they was watching these lights at night.
They were hovering back over be to the South of our little
neighborhood and they was just over the like the cornfield back
there. And then my uncle actually saw
one come in and it slowed down and then it zipped it.

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It kept zipping, jumping like itwould jump from 1.
You know, I don't know. He said it'd look like it'd jump
about a mile, you know, in the air as you know, as far as you
can see, and then zigzag back and forth just faster than
anything a human could, you know, fly in a anything that
we've got so. Man and.
Then my cousin, this is another weird my cousin when we were

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little kids, I remember her talking about having a dream
about seeing a UFO land behind her house and they were loading
up. Everybody in the neighborhood
was was getting on board this thing like they were load
loading them up on a conveyor, taking him into the the UFO.

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And when she said that, it was almost like I had a flashback
and I could see that in my mind just as clear as a bell.
And I don't know if we all had amass abduction at that, but that
would have been around the time when we were seeing the the UFOs
there. So when he so let me ask you
this, so he, he experienced thiswhole, you know, weird like he

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so he thought he was crazy. Did he ever get see anything?
You know, do they ever come back?
Not to my knowledge that he never had another encounter or
or anything like that. And the the weird thing of it
was is he was I don't remember him being a a real sci-fi fan

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other than maybe when he was a kid he would watch Buck Rogers.
But later on, like he was into racing like heavy, like building
race cars and different things like that.
And he was like sports and stufflike that, but.
He's a regular dude. Yeah, he just never.
And he didn't, I don't remember him ever drinking alcohol or
anything like that. Like he was just, he's a

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straight shooter. He chewed tobacco.
That was the only thing that I knew that he did of, you know, a
bad habit was chewed tobacco. But he, and at one time he was a
Sunday school teacher. I know that doesn't really, you
know, doesn't really mean anything, but I'll just throw
that out there. You know, that's a, that's a,
That's such a I'm trying to process in my head, you know,

(29:04):
that's one. OK, let me ask you this.
Do you, do you think that there was some, maybe your dad told
you this or maybe a relative told you this, that like, did he
ever have like some like reoccurring dreams or anything
like anything like that? That was kind of like he was,
you know, that his subconscious,you know, it really messed with
him or anything like that did change.

(29:26):
It did bother him to the point where if he he would get
emotional talking about it because they shamed him, you
know, everybody shamed him and they made fun of him.
And it was like something that he was ashamed of that like he
didn't want to talk about it, ifthat makes any sense.
But I just got lucky as a kid tohear the story.
And here's the really cool part about it.

(29:48):
I heard it once when I was set like I said 13 and then I heard
it again when I was 19 and I heard it again when I was 23 and
never did he change the details net the details never change.
They always stayed the same and.And that's, that's, that's,
that's just especially if something, you know, they

(30:10):
always, you know, that's one thing about storytelling and
remembering, you know, things that happened.
And they always say that like the, you know, eyewitness
accounts are really not the mostcredible, just, you know, things
in your memory can change. But there's, there's sometimes I
think when there's certain things that happen to you and
you don't forget it, you just, you will never feel like, you

(30:31):
know exactly what happened. And, you know, it sounds like,
you know, you heard that Story 3different times.
You know, that's, you know, that's interesting.
And especially that he was kind of he hit.
Did he, I mean, could you tell that his demeanor like, I guess
like, you know, I guess did you ever ask your dad if he had like
a demeanor change, like you justbecame more depressed or you

(30:54):
know, or you know, or he just kind of like put himself into
work, you know what I'm talking about, like you.
Know, yeah, I would say men's. Depression is work working a
lot. I would think that that played
into a lot of him working and having his hobby as a race car
driver, trying to keep keep his mind occupied.
I would say that, well, that wasprobably part of it, but I don't
remember. I don't remember him being

(31:14):
depressed, you know, like he didn't drink alcohol and nothing
like that. He, he seemed like he was as
long as nobody was bothering himwith it.
I mean, he seemed like he was all right.
You know what I mean? Like he was, he was OK.
I, I didn't see him like grief stricken or anything.
I like, I heard my, my father talk about how he, you know, he

(31:35):
seen him crying because nobody would believe him and he thought
he was going nuts, you know, so.Did your dad believe?
Him. Yeah, I believe my dad did
believe him. He, he had a pretty good grasp
on those types of things. And yeah, I think my dad
believed me. Yeah.
Because my dad said he didn't tell stories like that, you
know, I mean, that's like unusual for for him to even talk

(31:56):
about stuff like that. So, you know, yeah, that's
that's such a great. I mean to my as my time on the
podcast now, I can remember whensomeone told me a really like my
favorite great or my to me, quote UN quote, the greatest
Bigfoot story. I remember when someone has told
me the greatest dog man story. You know, the story that you

(32:18):
just told I think is my is the greatest alien alien encounter
encounter. It would be, you know, that I've
heard cuz I mean, he especially here on this podcast, I've had
so many people tell me they've seen orbs in the sky that
they've seen, you know, people shape shift and that story that

(32:39):
you just told, it is a very unique story.
And I and I appreciate you you sharing that.
Hey, no problem man. Like I said, if anybody wants to
research Doctor Frankie Stranges, that is a a very
interesting story. It's called, There's a book
called Stranger at the Pentagon.And he actually Valiant Thor
supposedly lived in the Pentagon.
And I take it it was close to the area where the plane hit it

(33:02):
during 9/11 or we will say a plane, but they said nobody saw
a plane. But anyway, but did you, do you
know anything about what ValiantThor offered the government at
that time? I remember that they had him
there. I, I don't really remember.
I mean, that's a, that's like anearly 2000s.

(33:23):
I remember that that went big inthe early 2000s like.
Big, big there that Valiant or Frankie Strangest talks about
how Valiant Thor could use his mind to, you know, basically
moved from place to place without, you know, like he could
disappear and reappear at will kind of thing.

(33:43):
And like he talked about him appearing in the back seat of
his car when he told him he saidI would I'll be I'll see you in
another year or something like that.
And then boom, he's in his car and he and he appears in the
back seat just out of nowhere. And then like, he walks Frankie
Strange is into the Pentagon andtells doctor Frankie Strange is
just to open up your he wasn't with him.

(34:05):
He was in that in the building, but he had a woman that came in.
The woman gave Frankie Strange his instructions to move his
jacket like he had a badge on and he didn't have a badge on in
the Pentagon. You know, the Pentagon's locked
down pretty tight. You got to have go through
security points. But every time you go through a
security point, he would move his jacket like he had a badge.
And the security guards would write down like they saw that he

(34:26):
had a badge on. And he walked right in the room
where Valiant Thor was. And there was a guy sitting at
the desk. The guy didn't even know he was
in there. And he was talking to Valiant
Thor while he was talking to Valiant Thor.
But he offered, he offered our government to end sickness and
death. And they wanted in exchange for

(34:47):
us to stop using nuclear weaponsand stop messing with the
nuclear thing because you know how bad that is.
And that was the only really theonly request that they had.
But they said they would be ableto cure sickness and death and
they turned them down. And then I don't know if you
knew, but in, in that he didn't have a belly button and he

(35:09):
didn't have fingerprints. Valiant Thor didn't have a belly
button or fingerprints. And I think Frankie Strange has
asked him why they didn't have abelly button.
And, and he basically told Frankie Strange's Valiant Thor
did told him. He said we never stopped walking
with God. So, you know, like a, the
fingerprints are an identification mark for
criminals, you know, So I thought that was pretty, pretty

(35:33):
interesting that. Is definitely I mean I remember
hearing about that on coast to coast.
I remember that was a big I remember I I didn't watch it
live, but I remember when you but YouTube before YouTube was,
you know, the way it is now. It had everything.
It had literally everything. Yeah, one of the things that

(35:56):
Doctor Frankie Strange has said that I believe was that the they
lived on the interior of the planet and they told my
grandfather the same thing. And when I heard those details
that Frankie Stranges was talking about, I was like, I
can't believe, I can't believe that he's saying this because I,
I, I never heard of Frankie Stranges, you know, before I

(36:17):
talked to my grandfather. So I only thing I knew about it,
the Venusian thing in the peoplefrom Venus was, you know, what
I'd heard from my grandfather. And so Frankie Stranges is
talking about all this stuff andit's just one thing right after
another, just like what my grandfather was telling me.
So. Yeah, man, that's AI know.
I know a big thing and another big.

(36:38):
And then I'm not sure if you knew anything about this, but
the John T tour. Yes, yes.
That was another thing in the early 2000s for Coast to Coast
that went viral before it went viral.
And did you have for anyone? I'm not, I remember it and I
know he they people thought he was a time traveler and that he

(36:58):
had predictions for like 20. What was it, 2134?
Something like that. Yeah, something like that.
And he was. Yeah, go ahead.
He talked he a lot of the stuff that he talked about, like he
like some of the stuff that he predicted or whatever.
And it's almost like what stuff that we're going through right

(37:19):
now. And I don't know if you do, you
know, there's some kind of an IBM computer that he would
supposedly had came back to to get.
And this IBM computer had some kind of a function and built
into it like a back door function that there was only
like 2 people that worked at theIBM that even knew that, that
had that function. But that's the computer that

(37:41):
they needed in the future to help fix or you know, do time
travel better or something. But that's pretty interesting.
Man, that whole thing is interesting.
I know he said that he. I guess that the he said, I
guess he was the in multiple places, you know, different
places. But yeah, that John Teeter
thing. And then now you're and you

(38:02):
know, Valiant Thor, cuz like I said, I remember Valiant Thor,
like I said, in the early, early2000s watching, I think it was
someone did a yeah, some type ofsomething.
Yeah. But you know, kind of moving,
moving, moving on. Is there any other stories that
you have in the in the tuck or do you want to save them for

(38:23):
another time or do we want to get to some other some other
things? Well, I would just like to say
that, you know, that story that my grandfather told really kind
of piqued my interest about the paranormal.
And it's it's got me searching for answers.
And, you know, I've had my own encounters.
And I will say that do I know for a fact that Bigfoot's from

(38:44):
another planet or, or whatever? And I know I don't do I know
that his story is, you know, true or whatever.
I, I get made fun of too, just telling the story.
You know, people say, oh, you'rea weirdo just telling the story,
but I, I don't care. You know it, don't it don't
bother me. I'll, I'll tell it.
And I've had my own encounters, like I told you on the last show

(39:07):
about the things in the woods. But I have used that information
about him saying that they livedunderground to search for them
here in places where I think they're underground.
And that's one of the things that I'm looking for all the
time. You know, people are out looking
for whoops and and I shine and I'm I'm looking at boulders that

(39:29):
have been pulled out and put back.
You know what I mean? Yeah, they they all I know.
And I've posted this clip a multitude of times from Tim.
Tim Harjo. He's since passed Muskogee Creek
Seminole, and he was with the Seminole elder and they were
talking about how they, you know, how he believes that they,

(39:51):
you know, they come from underground.
I've never even mentioned this before, but I mean, I guess I'll
talk about it here. But you know, there is a, how I
say it's not a cave system, but it's out in Eufaula, OK.
And we used to run around a lot in there.

(40:12):
We, we go up there with my grandpa.
He, you know, we, he'd take us out there.
I've been out there probably 5678 times and it's, it's not
really a cave system. It's more of like honeycomb, you
know, like a honeycomb is kind of shallow, but it, it, you
know, once you get to the, the end of it, it's really like
dark. Yes.

(40:32):
And it's not like I said, it doesn't, it doesn't go any
anywhere. It's just a big, you know, it's
like a culvert, but there's a bunch of them on the side of
this kind of hill and there's a lot of Muskogee Creek, you know,
legends and I believe in storiesthat I believe 100% believe
happened. But there was always weird stuff
going on. Like we went out there one time

(40:54):
and this kind of goes into your Bigfoot thing.
You know, they were, we were outthere and we're kind of on the
top of this hill and looking down.
And as you, you know, it kind ofbasically it was like a hill.
It's like a hill and it's like alittle like a little walkway and
then there's another boulder here.
So there's like, it's like a, it'd be a terrible place to be

(41:15):
ambushed and basically kind of like a runway.
You just, you just described a place where I, I do some
hunting, you know, I call, I don't, I don't hunt Bigfoot.
I just go out looking for, for tracks and stuff.
But there's an area where I found footprints that is just
exactly like you just described.Yeah.
And and so we were on top of that.

(41:37):
And I remember, I remember we were, it was like dead quiet.
And I looked over, it was myself, my brother.
I might have been my uncle and my grandpa, my dad.
And I can't remember exactly whowas all there, but I remember
being I might have been middle school.
And we were out there and it gotreal quiet.
And all of a sudden you could hear faint.

(41:58):
It was almost like, you know, like if when it's raining and
it's a slow rain, but you can hear, like you can hear
individual drops hitting the ground.
And we're sitting there. I'm sitting there and I'm like,
and we're all looking at each other and my grandpa kind of
looks at us like be quiet. And so we're standing there.

(42:19):
We can't see nothing. You know, I mean, we can see
directly into this. Like we can look down and see,
but there's all these little like calm honeycombs, but
they're underneath where we're at, where it goes into the
basically into the, the side of this hill, I guess you could
say. And I often wonder maybe if that

(42:40):
was Bigfoot. Cuz it was real quiet.
It was like real delicate. It was almost like this is
crazy. But like if you were walking, if
you had the ability to walk on your big toe, you know, through,
you know, leaves. And you know, there's another
story that I wish, I wish I had recorded this because I've heard

(43:04):
three different kind of stories that from three different point
of views of seeing like a lizardperson out there.
Yeah. And it was like the predator is
what is what they were telling me and that they saw like these.
It was like the like you guys can see my mic.
It's like it like something grabbed the tree.

(43:26):
It like it broke the tree and then, you know, grab the tree to
RIP it open and it was like a, it was like a real loud crack.
And I remember, and I was there,I was a little kid.
I might have been elementary, older elementary, probably like
3rd, 4th grade going into fifth grade maybe.
And I remember just walking along and I remember looking

(43:48):
back and I saw my, my grandpa, like, look, he's, he was, I hate
to say he was spooky, but he kind of was a little spooky.
You know, he, he, I hate to describe him though.
He's past, but he knew things that a lot of people cuz he just
asked, you know, there's those elders who live up in, you know,
BFE nowhere and he would go talkto him.

(44:09):
You know, he's just, you know, get it, you know, just talking
to him or, you know, they come down or they, you know, go to
the library or, you know, come do this and he just sit there
and talk to him. And when you're into you just
kind of just start talking aboutspooky stuff.
That's just how it always, always is.
But but basically he said that he saw, they said they saw that

(44:30):
my dad said he's seen he's seen it like he saw the the whatever
this thing was. I have to ask him.
I might have him, you know, record a story for me and tell
it, tell it better than I did. But I remember being a little
kid and looking back and seeing my, my, my aunt, my, my grandpa,
my dad and another person. I can't remember who looking off

(44:52):
into where the those honeycombs were kind of on the bottom where
I was talking about where we heard those that like light
footstep really like, you know, really faint footsteps.
And I remember looking at him looking over there.
I didn't see nothing. I'm just looking at the tree
line up, you know, not know whatI'm looking at, but they're
looking like real hard at something.

(45:12):
But but you said that you heard something, you know, kind of
similar. You know that where you were,
you were looking for Bigfoot. Yeah, I've, I've actually been
deer hunting before and I've hadthings paralleling me going back
to my tree stand and I would usea red light going in.

(45:32):
So because I say the game can't see the red light as well, but
whatever this thing is would stay just right outside of the
light, you know, right outside of the red light.
And it would follow me all the way to the tree stand.
And it, it happened two or threetimes and then one time I, I was
walking it. Well, it's actually happened to

(45:52):
me 3 different times. One time me, I, I think I told
you the story about seeing the trees falling on the river and
whatever this thing was, was chasing deer and it was like
bulldozing the trees down. And that was the last time.
But it, when we were walking in there, the weird, weird thing
was there's a cave there like you're talking about where it

(46:12):
goes back in and you can actually see this, this spot
where there was actually like an, an Indian, like a, a burial
mound or whatever out in the field close to this place.
But it was a high bluff where itwould be like a lookout.
And that's where The Cave was, was right down below that.
And you could actually see, I don't know if they, I, I, I

(46:35):
think the Indians did it. I think they carved out a bowl
where the water come trickling down off the side of the hill.
They carved a bowl out there to where they can wash their hands
and face and and get fresh waterto drink.
But I always thought that was really cool.
But we're walking in there was walking in this trail and the
deer had that path beat down. Like it was like, you know, a
foot wide, just beat to the dirtwith nothing on it.

(46:57):
And we're walking in there and I'm looking around and I see
these little trees that look like like pawpaw trees.
And I thought to myself, I thought, man, I sure would like
to see a paw paw. I've never I've heard him talk
about paw paw and I'd like to see one and I'd like to try it,
you know, because I heard him say they called it like the
Indiana bananas mixed between a banana and a strawberry, the

(47:19):
taste. And they said they and then
somebody told me here that if ifyou find them the paw paws, if
you have a paw paw patch, then the Indians planted them and
they always planted them on one side of a hill.
And you'll find them, you know, they'll be the kind of together.
And where I live at here, there's a rock over in the next

(47:39):
ravine that has where Indians have carved out riding on it or
you're not riding, but like likebird tracks and different tracks
is carved on it. But anyway, I was, we was
walking along that river and I thought, I don't sure like to
have a paw paw, you know. And so we go in and we come back
out after we had that experience.

(47:59):
And as we're walking back out the trail, there's a pawpaw
laying right in that, like rightin the path.
And it was just right behind us where if it would have fell out
of a tree, we would have seen itcoming in because I was looking
down because we're got copperheads here.
So I was, I'm looking for snakes, you know, going in.
And it's because we're in the rocks too, you know?
And so I'm going up through there and nothing, there's

(48:22):
nothing in there. But when we come back out, it
was like something had taken a paw paw and just laid it right
out in the right, out in the middle of the path, just
perfect. Just so that I could see it when
I come back through. And I always thought that was
something that was either something spiritual or or a
Bigfoot did it. That's probably little people,
man. And so that happened to me here

(48:42):
at the house twice. I was went out and I was
walking, I found these, I think it's a prehistoric route, like a
petrified route down in the Creek.
They they actually look like a cactus.
Somebody told me they thought itwas a some kind of a cactus, but
we don't have cactus here in Indiana.
But anyway, it's petrified. But it had washed out of the the

(49:03):
Creek Creek bed. I found a piece down in the
Creek. And so I was walking and I was
checking, going in, doing some pre scouting behind the house
for deer. And I was coming back and I had
went up this I went up a deer run, just like I did going along
the river. And I went up this deer run And
I I went up the hill and it, like I said, beat down to where

(49:25):
you could see everything I'm looking because I don't want to
get bit by a copperhead. I'm going up up the hill and
then I, I go up there and look at all my tree stands and
everything, look for sign and, and so I decide I'm going to go
back out the same way I come in so I don't disturb anything.
So I go, come back, right back out the way that I'm going and
I'm looking down again, coming out and heading towards the

(49:47):
Creek. And I, before I get ready to
break over the hill on the, the path, I can't, I think to
myself, well, I'd sure like to find one of those, another one
of those fossilized things that I found down in the Creek.
I'd come over the hill and that thing is laying right in, right
in the path, just like somebody just placed it there.
And I had just walked there and it was not that it wasn't there.

(50:09):
I would have kicked it. You know, that it, that's how
good it was in the path. And so that happened and then
another time we was up behind, Iwas taking my uncle and my dad
and showing them around. We was moving a tree stand back
in the woods and we was coming up behind the behind my shed.
And I thought to myself, man, I'd sure like to find a, I'd

(50:31):
sure like to find like a, you know, an Arrowhead or something
like that. And as we're coming up the the
back of this shed on a path, thesame path we went in, same
thing, things laying right in the middle of the path.
And it's a, it was a, it was a, I think it was a shovel point,
if you know what I'm talking about, where they would put it
in a like a stick and they wouldrake like a garden with it or

(50:53):
the deer, you know, pull back the leaves.
But it was you couldn't ask for.It was perfect.
Like it was perfect. And it was just laying on top of
the ground on the dirt on that path, just like somebody had
placed it there. So it could have be coincidence
maybe, but. It could have been little
people, man. Yeah, I and I think they're,
well, you. I showed you that picture of

(51:14):
that thing peeking around the tree and now I had.
To get rid of it man, I'm sorry.Oh no, that's OK.
That's OK. That's OK, man.
If it if it gives you the creeps, that's OK.
Yeah, I I've talked. I've talked to enough people
where I'm like, you know, like Ihad to talk a guy.
Go ahead. I'm sorry.
This is puck wedgie country here.
Yeah, that we've got puck wedgies they talk about here,

(51:37):
so. There's a gentleman who had a
storytelling that I in Pawnee tobe exact.
He he saw one that were I think he was looking around his semi
truck. He's in the middle.
He was at some like kind of gas station, you know, kind of off
the beaten path a little bit. And you know, they always kind
of park, but he took a picture of 1 and basically he showed his

(52:00):
uncle, I have to go back and listen to it, but he showed his
uncle and his uncle's like, man,you need to get rid of that.
Now. He had weird stuff going on in
his house, like weird stuff, like stuff that hadn't happened
before. And he was like, man, he's like,
you gotta delete that. Like you have to delete that cuz
it's not good. Especially if you're not

(52:20):
supposed to see something, like you see something you're not
supposed to really. I've always heard it's been like
a year, like you're not real. Like you see something, you're
not supposed to say something for a year unless you're going
to get bad luck or something's going to happen.
But but yeah, that's a, it's a, that picture you sent I got, I
literally got chills. I looked at it for like maybe a
day or two. And then I was like, I got to
get rid of this. Hey, you know what?

(52:43):
I don't blame you if that, if that's makes you feel safe,
brother. I, I, I feel you, man.
I, I, I don't, I've got another picture that I, I haven't sent,
I haven't sent you, but I took over where I find the footprints
and what it, and you know, I know Paradola.

(53:03):
There's Paradola out there. People will make a Bigfoot out
of a stick, you know what I mean?
I, I get it. But this thing, whatever this
thing is, it's it's in a, it looks to me like, you know, like
behind the log pile and it's leaning up against a tree and
it's looking over its shoulder towards where I was taking the
picture. And I tell you, man, it looks

(53:23):
like the classic grey alien. But this thing's got slit eyes,
slit eyes in it. You can see the slit eyes in it.
And it was in the same area where I've got the
bigfootprints, where I found theBigfootprints.
And I even gave Cliff Brockman the plaster cast, the original
plaster cast. And he made me some replicas of

(53:44):
it. But he's got the my original
plaster cast is in his museum in, in Oregon.
And it's in the same area where I found the the footprints.
So have you been, have you been out about?
What do you mean out looking? Yeah.
Have you been out since we last talked?
Yeah, since we. Last I have been so busy we're
building my mom a new house right here and I've been so

(54:06):
busy. I haven't been able to do hardly
anything. But I'm I'm biting at the bit to
get out there because right now if it for Bigfoot hunters and
people that's into the cryptids right now is the time to be out
in the woods right now, between now and about April is is your
is it's key time to be out. The hunting is over and the
woods are quite been a quiet fora while, and they're hungry.

(54:30):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of, I kind of want to, I guess I kind
of want to shift gears here, OK,I want to, I want to get your
opinion, OK, This is going to beon the Patreon.
So you can, you can hot take it all you want.
I don't, you know, I probably will as well, but.
Well, let's get it. So what do you think about

(54:51):
what's going on now with the federal government and, and you
know, Trump, Trump diesel, what do you think?
What's, what do you think? I guess we'll start off with
USAID. What do you what do you think
about that? I think we've been ripped off
for, for decades and I, I just think it's all, I think it's
bad, bad news. And, and you know, like they're

(55:12):
talking about giving us a refundof whatever, you know, they from
the money that they've found that they've, you know, stole or
whatever, like giving us a refund check, you know, I've
heard up to like $5000 or whatever.
Well, as far as I'm concerned, they can keep that money and go
arrest those people and hold them accountable, just like they

(55:32):
would hold us accountable, You know, they would, they would,
you know, they can, they can lose $2 trillion and then 911
happens the next day, but they'll come after us for $5.
The IRS will come after you for $5 and you'll be either in
prison or pay in the next 10 years.
I mean, yeah, no, you're 100%. And you know, I was, I was, I

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was talking to my mom about thisand I said, you know, if and I,
I said I've made this very well known.
Like I'm a, I'm a registered Democrat, but I'm a very
conservative in some aspects Democrat.
Like there's things that like there's a difference between
being a leftist and being a moderate.
I would consider myself a moderate like, but there's some

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things where I'm like, this is unbelievable.
You're sending money over to Somalia for gender affirming
care. What you know, all these crazy
drag queen shows. And I know since South Africa,
they're, you know, they sent money to there.

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They were basically funding the HIV healthcare clinics all over
South Africa and then parts of Africa.
I'm just like in my head, I don't understand why people
would be mad about that. But I do have a little bit of a
problem On the latest episode I talked about on episode 89, I

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talked about Elon Musk and how he he, he's a bit creepy man.
I don't know if you I don't knowwhat your opinion on him is, but
he comes off a little creepy to me.
Well, I've got a pretty good sixth sense about things and I
honestly, you know, like, like you said, you as a Democrat or
whatever Will my whole family was Democrats my whole life.
I mean, my dad was a union in the union and union man and

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everything. But when they started talking
about taking away the guns, I'llnever, I'll never be another.
I will never be a Democrat again.
It to me, it's a that ain't thatain't happening.
They ain't taking them. They're not taking them from us.
That, that was a straw that broke the camel's back for me,
because once they take the guns,we're dead.
Yeah, it's over, but it's over. I mean they, you.

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Know that's why they that's why in the you know, in every
country, if you, if you look back the thousands of years or
and we can go hundreds of years of history, once they dearm the
citizens, that's when things happen.
Did you know, I did not know this, but did you know, like
over in Russia, they killed moreChristians than than the Jewish

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people died in the Holocaust. Yeah.
And people don't even know that.And they took their guns away
first. That's that's how that happened.
No. No, we've I yeah.
Like I said, my whole family wasDemocrat and I, I've switched
gears. I've seen too much I, I, I

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think, I think maybe Donald Trump means well.
I, you know, I'm not going to say either way, but I don't
trust any of them tell you the truth.
And I think there's two types ofpeople in this world.
You're either good or bad. That's just that.
That's just how it is. There's a few in the middle, but
there's we're rich, there's richand there's poor and a lot of us

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are poor. Yeah.
And there's a lot of us who? Yeah.
And more of us are poor than therich, so and like they said,
there's a there's a big club andwe ain't in it.
Yep, that's George Carlin. Yep, he, Yep, you know, he
that's one thing that I think I,I mentioned this, like I said, I
keep harkening back to episode 89 and I call it 2 cheeks
because it's two These, these two parties are two cheeks of

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the same ass, the same thing people say all 2 wings are the
same. Right now we're talking about
ass cheeks because they're both ass cheeks in their own way.
I always said that Washington need Washington DC needs a good
enema. They some, yeah.
They need to get flushed, man. Yeah, they say drain the swamp.
We're having that swamp gut, man.

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Oh, yeah, swamp ass. Yeah, I, you know, man, at the
end of the day, everybody just wants to to eat, live in a good
house and love their family, man.
And when and just, you know, we're just trying to survive day
by day. And, you know, whether you're a
Democrat or Republican or whatever you want to be, as long

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as you're good, good to me, I'llbe good to you.
I don't, I don't have any problem with anybody.
And I just want good things for everybody.
You know what I'm saying? I know in this world, I know it
don't happen that way, but. But I, I would help anybody do
anything, you know, to a limit, you know?
Yeah, I'm not. I'm sorry, I'm, I'm not going to
be. And you know, this was crazy

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too. We talked about, you know, just
I'm, this is kind of an immigration joke that I've been
kicking around in my head. But like I always kind of laugh
at, you know, the, the, the leftist and the really hardcore
left-leaning people where they're like, we got to let
these immigrants and I'm like, all right, then who, where they
staying? Are they standing at your house?
You know, like they were sendingup homeless people up at

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Martha's Vineyard a couple yearsback.
Yeah, I saw that they brought a whole bus of them in.
Yeah, and they didn't want them there.
Man, they were talking. This is unsafe.
This community has been a stapleof safety for 50 years and now
we have all these degenerates inour that's all right now you're
y'all hear what we're talking about now.
You know, there's some crazy people out here like.

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Well, you know, and, and here's the here's the thing, these the,
the same ones that are telling you to accept them are the same
ones that sent bombs overseas tobomb their families and kill
their families. And and, you know, if you killed
my family and I could get to where you're at you we're we're
not going to have a good day, you know what I mean?
And those people are they have, their hearts are filled with

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that because they've seen their little babies and children and
and mothers and fathers and grandfathers and aunts and
uncles die getting blown up, youknow, by the people that say and
let them in. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, you like it. And like I said, I'm, I'm buying
like I, I'm not. I know I have people that are
going to be like, oh, you know, but you know, Trump and and Elon

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are doing, they're doing a lot of good, good stuff.
Yes, they can do good things. Every every president has done
good things for a select few of people.
You know it. That's that's a normal thing.
But you know, I've I've never been, I've never, I've never not
enjoyed watching meltdowns from the left.

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It's just, it's just so like theleft-leaning people as of as of
today or maybe yesterday, I think it's today Joy Reid and
you know, Joy, Joy Reid is she she was, I think it was, I can't
remember the name of her show, but it was on MSNBC.
She had been there forever, likeforever and a day.
And it got cancelled because no one is wanting to hear her

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scream, Hey, this person's racist or this person is this or
we should do we do it. And it's just a lot of like
nonsense. It's it's like when when Donald
Trump said bring common sense back, when RFK Junior said bring
common sense back. I, I agree with him because some
of the stuff that they're talking about out there is just
we're in looney. We're in looney town, man.

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Do you know anything about the Med bed technology?
Have you ever heard of the Med beds?
I don't think I, I don't think Ihave.
Oh, there's that. That's one of the things that I,
I was interested in about DonaldTrump was his, the Med bed was
supposed to been created by Nikola Tesla, Nikola Tesla or

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whatever. But it's supposed to be like
some kind of a healing. You know, he's the one that
invented the MRI magnetic resonance imaging thing you get
in. And those like whenever they,
the units that they count on those is called Tesla units,
like the, you know, the electricity or the magnetics or
whatever coming off of the field, like the radiation or
whatever that's coming off of itis.

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They call them Tesla units. But anyway, there's rumors out
there and you'll see different things about it that says, you
know, they say they have three different types of beds, like a
holographic Med bed, a regenerative Med bed, and then,
oh, I forget what the other one is like a a regenerative Med bed

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I take it is like a like an age regression bed.
Like they the one Carrie Cassidyhat.
You know who she is? She's got Project Camelot.
Have you ever heard of her? I don't think I have.
Wait, you should check some of that stuff out, man.
I've been watching her for years.
But she talked about the Med bedtechnologies and he she had a
guy on that said he worked for NASA or whatever and that they

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had that technology, have had that technology for a long time.
And basically, you know, have you ever seen like how they can
3D print like a heart, like in tissues, like they're 3D
printing meat now, which I don'tsuggest, but the guy that, and,
and I don't know how legit this guy is, but his name was Randy

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Kramer and he talked about therebeing a secret space program and
that you can't take, you can't take enough medical supplies
into space because you're going to run out, you know,
eventually. So they had to come up with some
way to heal themselves without taking medical, medical supplies
in. So the Med beds were the answer.
And he, he basically described it as if you had a leg bloat
off. This thing would do a, a 3D

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holograph and it would shoot a 3D holograph of of a replacement
for your leg. And it would start building your
leg back from the bone tissue all the way to the nerves, the
veins, arteries, everything till, till it finally got the
skin and basically said they hadthat for years.
But anyway, I Long story short, I, they said that Donald Trump's

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uncle, his name was John Trump, got access to Tesla's files and
his patents like the government sent him in to get him and said
that some people believe that hehas kept those patents and Trump
actually has them now. So Trump has this Med bed is and
they're wanting to release this Med bed technology is what I've

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heard. And I, you know, to hear that,
it's unbelievable. And I could have searched and
searched and searched and tried to find any information that I
could to see if they were real. Because the problem I have with
it is if these things are real and the government's got it and
been using it, why do we have veterans that have amputations

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and still needing skin grafts? You know what I'm saying?
But the closest thing to information that I found for the
Med beds being real was back in the IT been it was 95 is when
this paper was written. And I probably came around came
founded about 9899 somewhere in there.

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I found it on the good old Internet when you can get
everything. And this guy was up for a
promotion in the military He wasgoing for.
I don't know if it was like a general or whatever.
He was trying to get a promotion, we'll say, and he
wrote this paper on a new aircraft.
It was called the Tab 1 Now, now, now this was in 1995,

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right? This Tab 1, I got in and I found
it and I think it was, I think it's called Teledyne Industries
or something like that. But if you look up T AV-1, you
have to probably do a DuckDuckGosearch to find it.
But if you do, you can get on there and look it up.
And anyway, in that, in that report that he's written that

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because he had to give like a report to these people, like a
presentation in that paperwork, it talks about the tab 1.
Now in 1995, this tab one that they talked about it being a
spacecraft that could go, you know, up into space and back to
Earth. And it had a that it describes
in this paperwork that it had a nano skin, nanotechnology skin

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at the in 1995. It had a nanotechnology skin
already. It had on board fuel production.
It produced its own fuel. So it didn't have, you didn't
have to take fuel on board. It just generated its own fuel.
And at the very end of it is said has on board Medved

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technology and described not being able to take enough, you
know, supplies into space. So that's the the closest thing
that I found for that being a reality.
But I have heard that that's theDonald Trump wants to turn that
technology loose. And, and if, if they do, the
problem that they have with it is the, you know, the ones that

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are against him the most. The problem that they have and I
you can see it all over them, isthere's something that he's
going to be able to do that theydon't want him to do because
it's going to cut into their checkbook.
If you if you were able to heal people with a magnetic resonance
and frequency and light vibration, then there's no need
for all the medicines and pharmaceuticals that we have to

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take here. You know what I mean?
And you remember they made fun of him talking about made fun of
Trump saying he talked about putting light in the body to
kill COVID back when it was, youknow, when it was going.
Did you know that there's a technology where they have these
IV things that like where the IVport is, they have a a fiber

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optic cable that's so small thatit can go into the port and it
shines different lights, fiber optic lights.
And it what it does is as the blood passes by this light, the
the light will take the bacterias and all the bad things
out of the blood as it as it passes over this light.
So you basically letting your circulation of your blood

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circulate by this light and it basically heals the blood or
cures your blood. They have had success with
Morgellon's disease, helping alleviate Morgellon's disease
and different things. Wow I watched him but they were
making fun of him back then. But that was an that's an actual
technology. If I find the video, I'll send

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it to you. Yeah, I remember, I remember
hearing about him saying that. But here's another thing that I
want. I want to just, I want to about
Trump. Do you think that he already has
that technology? Because they always say that he
is so surprised for being almost80 years old.
He doesn't sleep. They said that he really doesn't
sleep. His son go ahead.
His son, His son is like, I don't know how like he's up

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before we are. He goes to bed after we do, you
know, I think he may already have.
He may be using it. I honestly, you know, sign if
you shake the magic 8 ball, it might say signs point to yes,
you know, but it's it's a good thought, isn't it?
It really is. I mean, if you think about it,

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he was at the Super Bowl and then he was over what was in
France. He was somewhere overseas and
then he was over here and he wasback at the White House and then
he met with this person and thenhe was over.
What was it? He was somewhere SI can't
remember, but he was like I'm like, it's like either he's got
a body double or he's got that technology where he can just

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jump in a chamber and be oh, I got my 8 hours, 8 hours sleep or
whatever, you know. You know what, man?
This is where I I've heard that we're, you know, the technology
that we have, like the cell phones that we have now, we
really think is really great andwe got the latest and the
greatest of technology and, you know, this AI that's coming out
right now. If they're just now releasing

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AI, then they've had AI probablyfor over 20 years.
That's what I'm guessing and probably even more so longer
than that. And you know, one of the
theories I have about, you know,how they went to the moon, I
went and looked at the, you know, like the the capsule that
they supposedly was in or whatever.
It looks like a tin can, man. It looks like a tin can.

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I laughed. I said I showed my mom and I
said I laughed and I said, mom, they did not go to the moon in
that. But here's what I think.
Did they go to the moon? Possibly.
You know, some people say they did, some people say they
didn't. But here's here's my common way,
common sense way of thinking that maybe they went to the
moon. All right, Roswell happened.

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They had a crash, a Roswell, youknow, UFO crashes in the desert,
right? Well, they go and they retrieve
it. They they lie about it.
They say it's weather balloon that you have to lie about it.
Because if you have something sopowerful and so important and
it's above and beyond anything already hundreds of years in
advance, anything that they would have even had then maybe

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even 1000 years in advance. You're not going to tell your
enemies you got it because you're going to back engineer.
You're going to use everything you can off of to gain an
advantage on the battlefield. I honestly think that it's just
a thought, a theory of mine. They did go to the moon, but
they didn't go to the moon in the Rockets that we think they
went in. They launched those rockets from
NASA and make it look like they got on board, but they sent us

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back engineered alien spacecraftthat was able to leave the
planet and go now. Now this doge thing that you,
that you hear him talking about where they're going through and
their audit and everything. What does Elon Musk want to do?
He wants to go to Mars, right? Yeah.
You know what they're looking for.
They're looking for that money. They're looking for the black
budget money that has the the secret Space program has taken

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that black budget money and theyhave refined all their stuff in
Lockheed Martin. The CEO or president, Lockheed
Martin said back in the 90s, they already have the technology
to take ET home at that time. So they, these government
contractors, they've got this technology.
That's what I think Elon Musk and them are looking for,
honestly, that he's trying to find a better way to get off off

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the planet than lighting a Romancandle and trying to go, you
know what I mean? Yeah, man, that's, hey, that's a
fire tank. I like that because I I had
never thought about that. And then another thing about go
ahead. Go ahead, go ahead.
That's all right. Go ahead.
I'll tell you in a minute. Well, I just was, what I was
going to say is like, you know, you look at, you know, all of
the technology that he's like basically, you know, gathered.

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But the one thing that he's having trouble with is getting
off this planet. That's right.
That's right. Another thing, the mystery of
the UA PS. You know how they're seeing the
UA PS off the coast of New Jersey?
You know what I think that is? Have you seen the footage from
Ukraine where they're having wars with the drone over there
in Ukraine, they're using drones.

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They are testing drones off the coast of New Jersey, out there
off the where the naval bases are out.
They are testing those drones because they're prepare.
They're preparing to go down andtake the drug cartels out.
It's off the coast just like it is in Mexico.
So you can go into the city, youcan fly your drones over the
city and do tests, you know, at night.

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So these mysterious drones that nobody's ever seen before with
lights on them, like a UFO, he comes in, he's not going to turn
these lights on. He's going to have, you know,
maybe cloaking technologies or whatever.
So a lot of these things that these people are seeing, I
believe is the military is testing drones and it's probably
linked with AI and these they'regoing to pick up multiple

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targets with satellites using Starlink or whatever.
They're going to send these, yougo in with the ship, send in
thousands of these drones and there'll be anti drone drones.
You know what I'm saying? Kind of, you know what Iron Dome
is over in Israel where they fire the missiles.
They're working on a system or probably practicing with the
system to take out the cartel drones because that's going to

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be a battle, an aspect of the battlefield that they've never
had to address, you know, over here and put, let alone, you
know, in the theaters overseas. I'm sure that they have that
technology now, but that's just,you know, a way, it's just a
common sense way of me thinking and a theory of of what's going
on with the drones. Another thing, kind of you

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talking about the cartels, I've seen a lot of Mexican American
people that were Mexican, you know, they were born and raised
in Mexico, came here in America,became citizens.
And I've seen a lot of their videos.
They're coming out here saying, well, you know, you know, you're
going to F around and find out America when you start messing
with these cartels. And one thing too that I think

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is very interesting to me is that I don't think we, I agree
to that. I agree to what they're saying
to an extent because Hollywood says the quiet part out loud.
They always do, you know that. Have you seen Lioness on
Paramount Plus? No, I haven't.

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Taylor Sheridan, Taylor Sheridan.
It's got Zoe Zaudana, Saldana, whatever her name is.
And she plays a special operatorwho has a basically a hip squad
essentially. And they go into different
countries. And this past season they were
dealing with the cartel and it was in they were using the
Chinese was using the cartel to kind of, you know, do some

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things and what not. Well, it's like them, you know,
in the United States was giving Stinger missiles to Osama bin
Laden in Afghanistan, fighting the Russians back in the 80s.
Did you know that? Yeah, yeah.
That's. So that's the same thing.
They do what's called a proxy war or whatever, where like, you
know, you're going into Afghanistan fighting the
Afghans, but you're really fighting Russia because they're
supplying, or Iran, for example,supplying them with missiles to,

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to fire at the US soldiers. So they're, you know, it's all
a, it's all a big game. And these people, it's that
they're finding is stealing the money.
They're all working with them. And that's another problem is I
heard him, I watched the show. I, I think it was on the Sean
Ryan show. You know who I'm talking about.
I saw he was interviewing somebody about the cartels and

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they was talking about how the leader, they were naming all the
leaders of the cartels and that they are being trained by Navy X
Navy, U.S. Navy Seals and Rangers and, you
know, Special forces and stuff like that.
So, you know, if they get weaponry from over in China or
wherever that's is on par with what we've got, hell yeah,

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there'll be somebody to be reckoned with.
We, we, we're just lucky that ithasn't happened here, you know
what I mean? But you know, that's one thing
that that I was kind of, you know, getting to is like one
thing that we have that no othercountry has.
And we we like to F around and find out.
That's like our that's our country as a whole that was

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built on F around and find out. And you know, we have a like we
have so many special operators who are in Mexico now.
And that was one thing that thatthat show Lioness kind of talks
about. There's already agents there.
They're already in the car. The agents are already in the
cartels, our special operation people.

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Yeah. And you know, one thing you know
about the the cartel thing is that we have been we have based
our our hand me down weapons. Once we get tired of them go to
another country. That country goes well, these
are American made. Let's send those off and let's
get make some money off of it and they and our weapons always
end up in the hands of the cartel.
You mean like Taliban? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the.

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Afghanistan, yeah, wow, that wasa that was, that was really a
low. That was really low point in the
US when that when they let them have all them weapons.
You know what? And they were literally, they
had like they, they, I mean, there was like literally grade A
equipment that they left. It's just like, Oh yeah.

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Like Blackhawk helicopters, man,how expensive was a Blackhawk
helicopter? It's like it's yeah, man, yeah.
But yeah, I mean in, in, you know, one thing kind of getting
back to to Trump Diesel, I always call him Trump Diesel
because he he mows his way through everything.
You know, I, I 100% believes there's something to that His

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his uncle, because if you, if you've heard of Ingerson
Lockwood, he wrote a book about Baron Trump's fantastic
adventure. Have you heard that?
Have you have you heard about that?
Absolutely. And it references Trump's name
in there. Yep.
Don Don Trump. He lives in the biggest tower in
the biggest city. Man, oh man.

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And you know what's the odds of that?
You know what I mean? What are the?
What are the odds of that? It was like written in like
1700s, like 8 or late 1800s. It's like, like Donald Trump is
not even a thought. He's not even anything like.
Like right? Have you ever heard of?
I think his name is Bashago is Andrew Bashago.

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Have you ever heard? Of him, he's CIA guy.
Yeah, have you heard of his timetravel stories about how they
time he time traveled and went back and watched the Gettysburg
Address and. There was a picture.
There's a picture of, of the Gettysburg Address and he show
and he shows this picture in it,there's a boy with looks like,
like you can't tell if his hair is red or whatever, but he, you

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could, it kind of looks like what you would think of as
Andrew Buschago as a kid. And he said that's him and that
he had, they had jumped him in to watch the Gettysburg Address.
And he said, if you notice on the kid that he's wearing shoes
that are too big. And he said when he, you know,
jumped there or whatever, he didn't have any shoes and it was
cold. And somebody came and gave him a

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pair of shoes and he got to stand and watch the Gettysburg
Address. That's crazy.
So I, you know, I don't know if that's true or not, but he even
talked about Andrew Bishago, even talked about how Barack
Obama was with him in his team, like, like sitting like he.
So he knew all about it too. Like he was part of the program

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too. You know what's crazy about him?
I didn't even, I didn't know this, but in, in Arizona, they
found out that his birth certificate had fraudulent
handwriting. There was like 9 counts of like
there was 9 points of fraud on his birth certificate.
I didn't know that until like this past week.
They did a whole presentation and everything.

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I didn't know if it was real or fake, but you know, I guess this
happened a couple years ago. It's that whole man, that whole
situation is just like a what iswhat is going on?
You know, like the birth certificate and then Michelle.
I've heard some really horrible things about a lot of those
people, man. And you know, we don't.

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We don't. If we probably knew one, one
quarter of what what they've done, it'd probably scare us to
death, man. Yeah, I mean, I heard a story
years ago and this kind of ties into the kind of elitist and it
actually kind of scares me now Ithink about even telling us.
But I heard the story years ago that basically New Orleans is

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known for like, having energy vampires.
And there's people that are like, they almost reinvent
themselves on energy of, you know, certain people.
And I thought that was so interesting or interesting, but
kind of crazy that, you know, like, it's out in the open.
But like, especially in New Orleans, like, you know, some

(01:22:59):
weird stuff is going on there. Oh yeah, like, you know, that's
where some of the dog man sighting, a lot of the dog man
sightings are coming from, you know, is like around Louisiana,
Louisiana and Baton Rouge or NewOrleans.
I mean, not Baton Rouge, you know that that's they call him
the Lugaru. I, I think is I probably not, I

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probably not saying it right, but I've and, and you know,
here's, here's another, here's here I go with a theory.
This is a, this is a theory. There's a, there's a place over
in Illinois here not far away from where we're at.
And I think it's called Burroughs Cave or something like
that. I may, may not have said the
name right on The Cave, but there's a cave over there.

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And the story is that the guy went down in this cave and he
found gold artifacts and it was Roman and Egyptian artifacts.
And he found a tablet and they brought this tablet out and they
had this tablet translated. And in this tablet it said there
was a man that came from I thinkit Rome.
And he fled with, I don't know if it was 5000 people or

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something, but they, it was a lot, it was a lot of people.
But anyway, they came up the Mississippi River and up to the,
I think it was the Ohio or whatever.
Anyway, they ended up up in thisarea and that's they, they had,
there were supposed to been mummies in this cave and
everything, but it told the story of a man named Helios that

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came. He was like a, either a King's
son or was a king or a Roman emperor or something over there
and somebody was going to kill him.
So they fled and they came to America here.
And so my, I don't know if you know anything about Alexander
the Great. He had two warriors that had dog
heads. They were dog headed men that

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they had captured that they ended up fighting for him.
And so they, there's accounts ofthem over there like the dog
headed men. And let's say these people came
over here from America and they,there was some of those dog
headed men with them and they come up through the Ohio or the

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I was at the Mississippi River around Louisiana.
And some of them got out there and and or were freed and ended
up living in the swamps and thatterrain.
That would be a, a good way for them to have gotten here to
start with, unless they were already here.
But that was kind of a theory there.
And I got to thinking about the the Romans that would have came

(01:25:32):
in the Egyptians, if they that many of them would have came and
come up, you know, the river systems.
And if they if they didn't get into fights with the natives,
you know, the Native American people or the Indians, then they
would have been assimilated intothe tribes.
And some of the tribes, you know, like the nose, they have
like the long nose. It looks very similar to

(01:25:53):
Egyptians, the Egyptian nose with the black hair in the nose.
So I think, I think there's a, there's a connection there.
And I heard a story about Chief,I think his name was Chief
Joseph, where he was. They called him Napoleon of the
Plains. And they couldn't, they had
trouble kind of like what's his name, Sitting Bull?

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They had trouble getting SittingBull or catching him or
whatever. Like he was almost invincible.
But this guy was like that. They called him Napoleon of the
Plains. But once they finally overtook
their village and they got him or whatever, you know, attacked
him, they seized everything he had, like from his teepee or
whatever, wherever they stayed. I don't know if they had teepees

(01:26:34):
out there or not. But anyway, they found a little
tablet, a little Sumerian tabletthat they had that that Chief
Joseph had in his possession. And guess where that tablet came
from, what we would know of as Iraq.
And it was a Sumerian tablet, anancient Sumerian tablet with
cuneiform writing on it. And they deciphered it and I, I

(01:26:55):
believe it, they said that it told the story of a shepherd on
this little tablet. So, but it's in a museum
somewhere. But there is a.
There is definitely a connectionthere.
You know, and that's one thing too that I always find very
interesting about the Egyptians,because they like you.
Like you mentioned, I have heardthat they have found it all over
the country. They have found Egyptian style

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stuff, pottery. And so I often wonder, and this
is a conspiracy too, that a lot of people talk about, that
ancient Egypt is actually America.
Yeah, I've heard that. And then have you heard the
story about the Grand Canyon andthe Kincaid expedition where
they found the the stuff and think about this man, if all the

(01:27:42):
continents were connected at onetime back, you know what I'm,
you know what I'm talking about.Like you can see where South
America and yeah, Pangea, where South America and Africa fit
together. It you know, the, the Native
Americans say we're all one, right?
Like we are all one. You know, no matter what color
or what where we come from or whatever, we're all one.
So at 1:00, one point in history, if all the land mass

(01:28:05):
was together, we were all one. And then, you know that story
where they talk about the Tower of Babel and then everything's
broken up. And then if we were all one,
then we all spoke one language at one time and we had one
religion or, you know, all thesepeople would have shared all of
that. And then when that whatever
happened broke everything up. So now you've gotten Tibetan,

(01:28:26):
you got Tibetan religion, you got Hindu, you got Buddhist, you
got the Christian religions, yougot all the Native American
beliefs and you know, all the different beliefs all over the
world. And it's all, you know, what if
it's all interconnected and it'sall the same thing?
It's just different pieces of itand people have taken it to
different parts of the and made it their own, you know what I'm

(01:28:48):
saying? Yeah, no, for sure.
You know, that's something I waslike, I was talking to Rod from
Lodge Tales and we had this longconversation of, of, of things
that keep you up at night when they, when they shouldn't.
And that's one of them. That's one of them for me too,
is like, I'll sit there and think like man, like what it OK,

(01:29:10):
Everything is everything. Pangea was one thing.
Something happens. We don't know what happens.
It could have been earthquakes, A cosmic flood.
And, you know, I mean, how do wenot know that that we had the
polar like, you know, the Antarctica was, you know, four
times the wall was four times bigger under the ice was, you
know, as deep. And one day it just, you know,

(01:29:33):
let's say half of it melted. And literally this planet was
covered in, you know, land. And then it melted over the
course of, you know, however long, you know, and then
everything happens. And I often think about that
quite a bit. Like I'm, I'm like, I'm always
kind of like, you know, this entire planet was covered in
land. We had all these people here.

(01:29:54):
We had all these different beings.
You know, I think there's a Bible, You know, I have AI, have
AI have a small beef with like Christian nationalism.
It's just when you push Christianity on people and you
know, that's that it just something in my native bones
just feels, you know, you know, you get the boarding schools,

(01:30:17):
you know, like that part of it just bothers me.
Well, you know, my great grandmother, she was Blackfoot
Indian and the one I got to staywith that wouldn't let me watch
the sci-fi show. And she was a they, my mom
always said it. She always thought it was weird
because you know, she's dark complected skin and like, you

(01:30:38):
know, native, native skin and jet black hair.
But they were, she was a Catholic and we didn't
understand why they were, you know, why they were Catholics.
But I and we weren't allowed, wewere never allowed to ask about
the Native American part of our,you know, heritage because it
was like they were ashamed of it.

(01:30:58):
But, you know, I come along a rebel and I want to know, you
know, my dad wants to know. And my dad said when he was a
kid, it was weird because you know who that Wes Studi Studi is
the guy in he looks kind of likemy dad kind of looks like him a
little bit. But he we would try to find out

(01:31:20):
and they would never tell us about it, our heritage or
whatever. But my dad said when he was a
kid, he said it was weird because his mom, which wasn't
Native American, she was a Sullivan, which would have been
a oh, Irish, you know, like a descendant of Irish.
She would take my dad and my aunt and uncle.

(01:31:42):
Their hair is just jet black like the almost so black is
blue, if that makes sense to you.
And she would take them to family reunions.
And this family reunion, the last name was was Hunt and they
were all Indians. My dad said they were all Native
American like people and he saidhe never he never understood

(01:32:04):
like they wouldn't they I guess they never really explained it
to him. But that was his fam, you know,
part of his Indian family, I guess Native American family.
And then like 1 when I was younger, I always wanted a pair
of of Indian moccasins. And I got a pair for Christmas
one year and they were, they were dark, like a dark color.

(01:32:25):
I always wanted like the buckskin, the real pretty, you
know, like the brown buckskin ones, you know, I knew people
that had them and I thought theywas cool.
The ones that kind of come up toyour knees.
And these were like low cut moccasins, but they were black,
like a dark color, almost black.And anyway, I kind then I found
out that we're part of the black.

(01:32:45):
We're Blackfoot Indian or black feet or one of I don't know
exactly which one. It's I've heard they're
different. But that's why because their
moccasins were dark, I guess. So that's why I got them.
No, that's cool. But but yeah, man, that's just,
that's just, I have AI, have a there's something in me that,
you know, that just hates that. And so when I hear, you know,

(01:33:09):
it's a Bible being used as kind of a historical artifact, part
of me believes that there's a there's a section of me that
says, yeah, you know, they're finding, you know, the dead.
I think they found another Dead Sea Scrolls, I believe another
section of it. Or they unwound it.
And you know, there's just so much like hidden history and

(01:33:31):
unknown history that like, you know, we may never, you know,
you know, we never, we, we may never rediscover until we die.
And we ask the higher power like, hey, what was going on
here? I'll show you.
And it's like a 5. It's like a 5 minute movie
trailer of everything that went on, you know, type thing.
And but we're ending, we're, we're getting getting at the

(01:33:56):
hour and a half mark. Is there any, is there any, I
guess parting words that you would like to, to say to the
audience? And then where can they find
you? They can find me on TikTok, the
Hunters of the Paranormal. I've got some videos and stuff
on there and pictures, the pictures probably farther down

(01:34:16):
in the in the list. And then Hunters of the
Paranormal on YouTube. If you try it's, they've messed
the algorithm up so bad. You can't, you can't even just
type hundreds of the paranormal.It won't pop up there.
You have to go to DuckDuckGo andtype in hundreds of paranormal
like say episode 23 or or whatever and it, it'll pop up

(01:34:36):
and I'll, I'll warn you, some ofthose episodes were pretty rough
because we were just working outbugs on our you, you, you know,
the stream yard challenges that you've had and that's what we
were using. So and you know how they, they
lock up on you, But there's somegood stuff on there.
I've got a guy that was talked about being abducted by aliens
and different things like that. So and then Bigfoot stories.

(01:34:59):
There's there's some different things in there, but.
One thing about your TikTok, I'll say this is you find clips
that I haven't seen maybe in 20 years.
You. Know that's why I'm, I'm always
looking for him man. I'm going back and trying to
find the good stuff. You know how they took all the
good stuff off Yeah, that's whatI'm what I'm doing man.

(01:35:20):
I'm trying to because, you know I found a Bigfoot.
There was a Bigfoot clip one time there was a guy was
shooting a video and he and thiswas so fascinating.
This was way back before AI or any of that.
This was like in the early 2000's, the guy shooting a video
like it he's standing on the road and he's shooting a video

(01:35:41):
and it and he's shooting a videoof a bear.
It looks like one of those big, it's not a black bear.
It's like one of them big ones, like a like a big Kodiak looking
bear, right? And he's shooting this video of
this Kodiak bear across the field.
And the bears over there grazing, you know how like they
have their head down and they'rewalking.
He's walking out. He like has just walked out into
the pasture and it's like he's looking for something or

(01:36:04):
sniffing, you know how a bear will do.
And as you're watching it, he's going across the field.
And then all of a sudden this bear, he stands up and he walks
away and he starts swinging his arms and he's got human arms.
And it's, it's not a bear, it's a Bigfoot.
It looked like he was close to 910 feet tall, big, huge.

(01:36:24):
And I, I have tried to find thatfootage and I cannot find it
anywhere, but it was clear, likesuper clear and just perfect.
And then there's other footage of a a guy had a a baby dog man
and they were keep it was two guys and they were keeping it in
a garage. Do you know, have you heard of
that? I've never heard of that.

(01:36:45):
And it's a baby Bigfoot and they, they were keeping it in a
garage. Like the parent was dead or, you
know, like the, the, and it was like alone or whatever.
They the guy took it in and theywere keeping it in a garage.
Is it dog in a Bigfoot? It was dog, dog man.
That one was a dog man like a, abait, like a juvenile or baby
dog man. And they man they that they took

(01:37:06):
that off so fast. They took that footage down so
fast. And the one where he's walking
across the field like, but he was down on all fours and the
way it had its head turned, he had his head turned away from
the camera. It was like you just, you
couldn't have asked for a better.
Like he blended in just like he was a bear man, like he looked
like his shoulders and everything made he made himself

(01:37:28):
look like a bear. And then he just stood up out of
the tall grass and just walked off like a human.
And it wasn't a bear, you know, like a bear, like, like this
thing had human legs and human arms and it, and it walked away.
It was a, it was a, and have youseen the one where the guy
chases the Bigfoot in the woods?The dog's barking at it and he's

(01:37:50):
on the road. And then he gets up on the
Bigfoot in the woods, probably about 20 yards away.
And it's going behind the trees,walking away from you.
And it's, and it's grunting likeit's, it's grunting.
And and then it growls like it'swarning him.
You better back off. But the dog, his dog was like
barking after it, like like chasing it and he tells the dog
to go back to the house or whatever and then he just makes

(01:38:12):
a beeline for it. He runs into the woods.
As this thing gets into the woods, he gets into the woods
and starts parallel in it. If I can find that, I'll send it
to. You yeah, you need to send me
that. But but man, I appreciate you
coming on again. Gosh, you, you had some pretty
fire takes and I appreciate it, man.
You're we'll have to. We'll do it again.
Yeah, anytime you need somebody or whatever, you just give me a

(01:38:35):
holler and I'll be more than glad to talk to you, man.
Hey, I appreciate you having me on and it's always a pleasure
and I love it, man. I've been into this stuff for a
long time, so. And I'm windier in a sack full
of beans. When you get me going, man, I'll
just, I'll just let it out. Hey, man, that's yeah, it works
for me because you had me. I had some of the stuff that
I've I've mentioned, I haven't ever mentioned or talked about

(01:38:57):
in a long time. But.
But I appreciate you man. Hey, maybe we'll have to talk
about inner Earth sometime, man.Oh yes.
I've I've I've done a little research on inner earth and
stuff man. So yeah, let's, yeah, we'll
we'll have to table that. Yeah, we'll, yeah, definitely.
I'm into that too, but. Heck yeah, buddy.
Well, all right. And if if you're ready to go,
I'll I'll bow out buddy. Yeah, just hang on a second.

(01:39:21):
I'm going to do it. I'm going to OK, and he was hey
everybody, he was trying to leave early.
No, but you guys can catch me atwar cry pod on X and TikTok and
then you guys can find me on I guess you can e-mail me.
I'm only on X and TikTok now. Facebook not going not going to

(01:39:41):
monetize my kids. But, but
realwarcrypod@gmail.com, send meyour stories.
Once again. I appreciate that Mister ghostly
hunter of Hunters of the Paranormal for coming on and,
and you know, basically lighting, lighting the podcast
on fire for for one time. But I appreciate them and for

(01:40:04):
everyone who continues to sort the podcast, Patreon 7 day free
trial. I appreciate you and I'm gonna
catch you on the next one.

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