March 31, 2025 • 27 mins
Welcome to the 94th episode of the War Cry Podcast. On this episode, Yahola Tiger tells stories and talks about this mysterious creature that many are calling a hyena cryptid.
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What's going on, guys? And welcome to another edition
of the War Cry podcast. I'm your host, Jehollah Tiger.
And on this edition you guys voted on YouTube.
In the YouTube polls, we're going to be talking about
Cryptid hyenas or hyena cryptids, however you want to
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Coming out very, very soon. I'm thinking maybe Monday or
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Tuesday of next week, which thisis the final week in March is
when this is being recorded. Tulsa Shapeshifter or Tulsa
Skinwalker. I haven't decided on a name yet.
It's, I guess technically kind of the same thing technically if
we're being broad, but that's what's coming up next.
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It'll be a members only for Patreon and YouTube memberships.
I know some people wanted to getthat episode, that episode.
The story is kind of long and I've told parts of the story.
So if you follow the podcast over the course of the last two
years, you have heard the story,parts of the story.
I just haven't told the entire story in a linear fashion, I
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guess you could say. But they'll get those.
And then guys, if you want to follow me on X war cry pod,
TikTok war cry pod, and if you want to send me a story, which a
few of you have realwarcrypod@gmail.com.
All right, guys, let's get to the show.
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They're very, very dangerous. If these fighty sense, you know,
I was like, oh, something's off.I'm just like, man, I'm waiting
to hear something, you know? So this topic came to me almost
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by kind of accident when we're talking about hyena cryptids or
hyenas in general. I was on a podcast almost two
years ago now. There was a story that I had
briefly mentioned on the podcastthat this person had heard, and
it was big for society. I think, you know, a lot of
those interviews in my few yearsago start to run together.
So bear with me if I'm wrong. If I'm wrong and you're from
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over there, let me know. I told this story this time when
I when I used to be a Uber driver, when I was telling this
story, the host was like, yeah, that sounds like a hyena, dude.
I'm like, because I was thinkingthe whole time was a dog man.
And so that story goes, as I wasdriving, picking these two, I
don't know, maybe older high school, early college age girls.
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I can't really remember, you know, I didn't really look at
them. It was dark and I just picked
them up, dropped them off and I just dropped them off up the
road. But they were whispering to
themselves like, what was like, what was that?
I don't know what, what that was.
That was like really big. It can be a dog.
And they were really talking to each other.
Sometimes, you know, you, you listen to people just trying to
eavesdrop and hear what they gotto say because it is, it can be
kind of entertaining, I guess you could say a lot of people's
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drama. But so they're talking and
talking and, you know, they go, yeah, I don't know them guys
really. They're kind of idiots for
messing with that thing. And so I guess these guys that
were that they were at this little, I don't know, field
party, bonfire or whatever, theykind of shooed this thing away.
And but they, the way they described it was like the size
of a smaller car in terms of height in that it looked, I
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guess it had pointy ears. And I didn't, I didn't connect
hyena. I didn't connect that animal.
You know, I'm in my head when they're describing this thinking
of a, you know, like a dog man with the snout.
But they said one weird thing was that the neck was a little
longer. So I'm thinking, you know, maybe
they have talked about hyena hybrids, those who are experts,
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experts, I guess. But you know, I thought it was
really interesting. And so I, I just put that in the
back of my head and I'm OK, Thatstory is there.
And so Jeremiah was his name forbig for a side.
I got sometimes I'd be mixing people's names up in my head.
But you know, he's like that kind of sounds like a hyena and
they're, you know, I think that it might be.
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And so I'm like, that's interesting.
I've never thought of it that way.
I've never, you know, like made it in my head connected that to
a hyena. But it makes sense because the
thing never got up on all 2 legs.
It was really big. It was really tall.
So as this podcast progress and it keeps, you know, getting a
little bit bigger, getting a little bit bigger.
And I get, you know, obviously Idid my interview with Cryptos of
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the Corn while I was talking with Justin, Mr. E and I asked
him, I said, do you think hyenasare running around here in
America right now? He said, yeah, no doubt.
And so we have, you know, about a 1520 minute conversation just
about specifically hyenas. And I told him a story and he
goes, yeah, he's like, that kindof sounds like it.
Because, you know, we equate hyena behavior when they're in a
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pack, you know, to be. We all have seen The Lion King,
right? You know, we kind of think of
they're a little annoying. They got that crazy little
laugh. And we never really truly, you
know, seen them by themselves orI haven't.
And Justin was saying that the difference between them and a
pack and then them separately when they're by themselves is a
totally different animal. They're a social animal, but
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they get almost like a opportunistic more of like watch
and observe kind of more distant.
But they are they're around. You just won't know they're
around. And so when I thought, you know,
thinking back to that story and he's telling me these things,
that makes a lot of sense because you know, this where
they were at was next to this river in South in north or South
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Bigsby across the the river. And it makes sense because it
would be traveling up, maybe looking for small game or maybe
some fish or something, you know, water always attracts
wildlife. And so I get that information
and I'm like, OK, that's interesting.
And then I start putting it out to people on Facebook, which I
don't have Facebook anymore. Guys, just let you guys know if
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you try to reach out e-mail or Xor TikTok, but people start
reaching out through Facebook. And I put it out there to
everybody and I got a few stories here from people.
And then as I did my research, Istarted seeing, you know,
different stories, some of them not really hyena Cryptid like or
some type of weird creature. But I found one from California.
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I believe it was in California. I have to look at my notes, but
it was pretty interesting. And during my research, you
know, one thing that I wasn't aware of, you know, I just
sometimes you just don't look atthese things because like I'm
not really big into hyenas. So sort of say when it came to
like growing up and wanting to watch things get killed like
antelope and all these differenttypes of things.
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But but I didn't realize about hyenas were once native to North
America and with the only hyena species to ever have lived here
was called this long name that Icannot pronounce, but is also
known as the running hyena. And this, they basically lived
anywhere from 5 million to one and a half million years ago and
mainly were found in Arizona andMexico.
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And the running hyena was kind of like a real slender hunter
that was kind of more, you know,curious, like I mentioned before
with when they're by themselves.But they were more kind of
shaped like a wolf than a modern, like what a hyena would
look like. But it was really fast and it
was really good at chasing down prey.
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But to this day they say that there's none out there.
And as we're finding out before Escalante that like, yeah,
there's some things out here that they're saying that's
extinct and it's really not. And according to most
conservation officers or game wardens, there aren't any out
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there. And the only type of hyena type
creature that it is really out here and has been released into
the wild, it's from the public because of exotic people buying
exotic animals. A lot of that is is kind of
based in Florida because Floridakind of has those LAX laws when
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it comes to exotic animal ownership due to like the
iguanas, the pythons, all that good stuff.
To this day there is hardly any reports or any reports really of
a native hyena. And the last known 1 was like
5,000,000 years ago is what they're saying.
So we really don't have a base when it comes to people.
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What people are seeing out here,a story that I've come across
and my mom was telling me that there was a guy out in Muskogee
County, you know, Wagner County area, that was breeding malmutes
and wolves. Those are pretty large animals.
The radius of them I believe is like 200 like miles, which
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covers some of the stories that I'm about to tell.
And I was kind of wonder like what this guy, you know, where
he released him? We never heard nothing, but that
was a rumor that was going around.
And what's crazy is I wish my mom, my mom had this old janky
Galaxy or whatever Samsung phonefor like forever.
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And I wish I would have got thatpicture off of her off her
phone, but she got a picture of something that looked like this
hyena that these people are talking about.
There's like hyena, like lookingcreature.
It had really it looked like a wolf, but it was bigger.
It was like really big. And like she took the picture
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from maybe 100 yards away. And even like from the picture,
you can tell that this thing waslike taller than the the, the
barbed wire fence. So we really never know.
I mean, it could have been a, you know, red wolf, which those
are out kind of Northeast circus.
What is it? Northwest Arkansas.
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And they've kind of found out that the Ozark howler was this
red wolf. But we really don't know.
You know, it's kind of crazy that that could have happened.
And then like these two, you know, this half malamute, half
wolf bred with this red wolf. And now we have this monster
wolf running around here. You just don't know, but I'm
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going to go ahead and share someof these stories and if you have
any, let me know realwarcrypod@gmail.com and let
me know what you think. This first story was sent via
Facebook and it goes like this. Many years ago, I actually saw
exactly what you described. They ran across the road.
I was driving home, which was inLawton, to my home in Anadarko,
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which is about 5 miles from the Apache.
Yi stopped and tried to film this creature.
This one I saw and it was exactly how you described it,
but it was small, like it was a young one.
It was like a cross between a hyena with spots in a mangy
coyote with ears pointing straight up and almost forward
facing. No faster, no faster than you
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would see a coyote run. But it also looked like
something like it was scared or it was running from something
and then it stopped running across after it crossed the road
and it went into the fence or went under the fence and into
the field. There are a couple trees.
And it turned around and waited while I was pulling over and
filming it. It sat very still, and when I
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got out of the car to get closerto film, it ran deeper into the
trees in the weeds. The film was blurry when I went
straight home to my mom and my dad's house to show them because
it freaked me out and I really don't know what that was.
My dad lived by Apache Lake about seven years ago and he
told me of seeing what he thought was a mangy coyote the
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larger he actually saw this thing crossing a tree line on
his way to his house, and the way it ran was almost more
terrifying than what it looked like, but a bit of the same
thing people are describing on your podcast.
Back in 1994 I saw a dead one byon Napa turn off N 69 Highway.
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My car started acting up and I decided to pull off the road and
check it out, you know check my car out and while I was checking
out the motor I caught a whiff of something and man man man it
was this awful funky smell like something was dead but it came
blowing my way. I happened to look down in the
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ditch where the run out like where the water runs off and I
saw what appeared to be 1/2 coyote and half spotted hyena.
It was very strange looking. I got out of there.
I couldn't really put together what it was, but it was very
creepy and one man said that he had seen something similar to
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the Spotted Mangy High or Hyena near Fairfax.
OK, the next story, I'm not surewhat I seen or heard that night,
Natural Falls State State Park. My wife and I were deer hunting
and the sun had just set and as we were walking back to the
truck we got the weirdest feeling that something was
watching us. That feeling followed us all the
way back to the truck. We made it back to the truck and
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all of a sudden we realized thatthere were no sounds coming from
the forest, like it was dead quiet.
It was really creepy. We loaded up in the truck and
took off but as we were driving out I hit something and I looked
and it was a coyote and it was running like it's life depended
on it and whatever was chasing it made the most God awful yell
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and whatever. Whatever was running after the
coyote we only caught a glimpse from the headlights but it was
huge and it was not a bear. I haunted bear in Alaska.
I know what bears look like. I don't know what this giant
thing was and Needless to say wenever have went back there.
In May of 2023 my grandson and Iwere headed E on I-40.
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Not exactly where at but it was east of Okemah or something like
that. Something out that way.
It was the middle of the night and something ran across the
road in front of us. The strangest thing I've ever
seen but it looked like it didn't have any hair but it was
bigger than a dog. We looked at each other and we
both said what it was. We both said at the same time
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the chupacabra. It was the scariest thing I had
ever seen. I also wanted to share on a side
note behind my house is like 5 miles of woods and I've heard
something holler and make different weird noises
especially at night. It sounds big and scary.
I have watched movies on Bigfootand it sounds like just like
what I hear. I come across a story that I
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found very interesting and it's out of California like I
mentioned before and the story goes I used to live in
California training movie animals I was working on.
I was working in Calabasas on a music video shoot until the wee
hours of the morning. As I was driving out of the
Canyon, I saw what I saw, what my mind could only process as a
small hyena on the side of the road.
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It's fairly close to the side ofthe road, but it ran off into
the darkness as I drove closer. I didn't, I didn't get the most
detailed look, but I was baffledbecause it truly looked like a
small hyena. I work mostly wolves out here
and right now our wolf compound there was a hyena.
So I used to see him pretty, youknow, pretty regularly on a
daily basis. I was convinced that it was just
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my mind playing tricks on me. Maybe it was nothing, maybe it
was a bear cub or a bobcat that just looked weird in the dark
with the truck lights on it. I've never seen anything like
this before, and I haven't seen any other sightings of hyenas in
America. Now I'm wondering if I just got
a glimpse of a Cryptid. Now these next two stories are
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going to lead into my relative story.
But there was a gentleman who passed some years ago and he
used to talk about that. This creature, hyena, wolf, dog,
man looking mixture type creature that everyone as you
guys heard these stories, has talked about.
And he said that it lived on themountain between Checotah and
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Warner. OK, Now if you guys don't know,
Warner, Oklahoma is kind of in the middle of nowhere a little
bit. It's just a couple miles, I
would say a couple, but it's some miles from Checotah.
And he always said that when he saw this thing, it had the eyes
the size of lemons, which is very interesting.
And the next story, this is in that same Checotah area, which
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is where I'm going to tell my relative story.
Something ran in front about 3 years ago off business 63 just
north of the Checotahs casino, which is interesting.
He shared it to a few people andthey hadn't heard anything.
And then he shared it on Facebook and didn't really hear
nothing, but he saw my post and decided to share that.
And I, I'm, I'm coming to realize that this thing might be
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living in that area between Checotah and Warner, because my
grandpa one year or my paw, paw on my mom's side, he, we always
like to share stories. And I get a lot of my
storytelling from him where I just, people tell me stories.
And then, you know, down the line, you share the story.
You know, it just, it just becomes like you just a, a
wealth of knowledge. And he comes from farmers.
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If I said his last name, everybody in that Checotah area
would know, you know, who they are.
And he, I think it was Christmas2023 might have been
Thanksgiving. I can't remember, but he was
telling me he, we were just sitting there talking.
He, he in my little cousin. And he's not little no more, but
he's my little cousin was like, Papa, go ahead and tell that
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story. What you saw out by the, the
pond. And I'm, you know, I'm thinking
he's going to tell some crazy story.
He's always got crazy stories and I bitch, I may share some of
those. Just messing around as a country
kid out in the middle of Wainwright.
OK, just doing the craziest stuff.
But he was telling me that one day he was out on the Ranger,
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you know, checking fences. He just makes rounds or
whatever. He's got so much land.
He run a operation out there andhe looked on the pond and he saw
this weird looking animal he never seen before.
And you know, he's been out in those woods surrounding area
woods he's been in all in it andhe never seen anything like
this. And he was kind of not scared,
but he's just kind of taken aback.
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Well, he has his dog George shout out George, that dude's a
menace. He's a any anything that comes
around him, he's going to kill it.
And he this his dog George was just scared, whimpering, real
upset and was just so like didn't want him getting out the
Ranger. But my paw paw was looking.
He's really looking and he kept getting closer and then he just
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kind of looked and was watching it.
And George was, you know, most times he would jump out there if
it was a deer or a rabbit, coyote, he'd go out there and
kill it, catch it and kill it. But he wasn't wanting no part of
this animal, whatever this was. So he described, he said it had
a real kind of a long like body,but its head was long.
And he, I said, did they have pointy ears?
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He said, yeah, they were kind offorward facing kind of
something. I just he had a hard time
describing it. And he went and I literally, I
literally went on Google and typed in dog man.
I, I said, was it this? He said no.
And no. He and I kept I showed him OK,
so I showed him the different types that people talk about,
about dog man. I'm thinking he saw a dog man.
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I'm like that he saw a dog man. This is the middle of the day.
I'm thinking he saw one which iscrazy.
And he's like, no, I said, I'm going to show you a hyena.
So I showed him a hyena, a full grown 1.
He said kind of maybe, but no. And I kept just showing him
these different pictures of maybe a mangy hyena.
He said. He kind of said it looked
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similar, but not really. And after a while I started
asking questions. I said, well, did it see you?
He said, I don't think it did. He said, but it looked like it
might have because it looked over in our direction, but I
don't know if it saw us because he was off.
The pawn is kind of up on a it'skind of up a little bit.
And so he was down. I mean, there's, I don't know
how it wouldn't see him because there's passion, but he just
said it didn't it act like it didn't acknowledge us basically.
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But George was so scared. He said it did the weirdest,
craziest thing. And then like as you, as you get
more on the other side of the pond, there's just like a like a
tree line. And he said that when this thing
kind of did what it was doing onthis on this pond bank, he said
he's never seen anything run this fast.
And I almost kind of in my head thought it was a cheetah because
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he didn't say it. He said it was just like a, like
black, like a, like a blackish brownish Gray.
Like it had like a weird, like it was a tent.
Like how, how, how, how Jesus, if I can say it, how hyenas have
that kind of that brownish tint.And so I, I kept asking
questions about what it do when you, you know, when it took off.
And he said it was the fastest animal he had ever seen.
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And he said it, I almost didn't believe it.
So when it ran off the palm bankinto the tree line, he said, I
said how many steps did it take?He said it was like it was
almost floating. It was going so fast.
And in my like I said in my headI thought cheetah cuz if you
watch the slow down version of acheetah, it looks like they're
floating almost. But he said it it went off and
it basically he said took. I don't know.
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He said it was like maybe 10 steps from the tree line because
it was like going so it like took off so fast that it like it
literally would just touch and it would just propel itself.
And then it and he's like, it floated from like 20 feet over
the fence and into the tree line.
And I'm like, and I'm baffled. I'm so baffled.
I don't really know what, what he's talking about or what, what
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animal this was. And then I started doing
research on the Ozark Howler andthen I started looking into
these hyenas. And this is what got me on the
topic. And this is kind of why I put it
that Facebook post out was to see if anyone heard anything.
Well, sometime later his buddy got a hold of him and said, hey,
have you seen anything like this?
He had seen the same creature, described it the exact same way,
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kind of a long, slender body. But one detail I wish I should
have, I would have asked is did he see a tail?
Was it bobbed? And I didn't ask that.
That's the question that maybe I'll have to ask and update
y'all on a live stream. But basically he said that the
he saw the same thing and it wasstanding underneath the light of
his barn. He had some, I think he had some
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animals in there. Maybe he got real scared.
He said he'd never seen anythinglike this.
And now when I when I read thesestories about someone seeing
something over by Checotah, you know, a couple times, you know,
that makes me believe that maybethis hyena, you know, got with a
coyote and maybe got with a dog and it's just like a it's an
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animal. Maybe we haven't really seen a
lot of and there's more, there'smore.
I'm wondering if he had any of this.
So I haven't asked him in a while, but that always makes me
kind of wonder if we maybe we dohave hyenas that are bred into
different things, different animals.
That would be interesting. And what animal would that look
like? But I asked him, I said, was it
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like a cat? He said it had cat like
tendencies and I asked Justin about this from cryptids of the
corn and I said, well, I said, does that sound like anything?
He said, man, that sounds like ahyena.
He said they run, they can take off.
I said, but like 10 steps from like a like a acre over, I said,
can they jump like that? And he said no, But like I'm
also kind of wondering if the, you know, there's these dogs.
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What are those dogs that can jump real high?
I can't think of the name of them, but the police officers
use them. They aren't German shepherds,
but I'm like wondering if it mixed with that now it's like
this ultra athletic strong animal.
What do you guys think in the common?
Let me know when you hear this. Let me know in the in the
comments or if you're on Patreonin the comments or even on
Spotify, right. Leave me something and let me
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know what you think and if you've heard anything like this
because I'm a little baffled by it and it has taken me on this
journey of looking into this hyena Cryptid and it's weird,
but let me know what you guys think.
I think it is a hyena Cryptid. I think that maybe I hate, you
know, this can get crazy, but maybe a dog man mixed with the
hyena mixed with the coyote because he said it wasn't that
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big. It just was like long.
It was like really long and its head was long.
Like its neck was long, longer than like a dog's.
I've told this story before whenI went to what was the name of
that place? It's in Tuttle, Tuttle,
Oklahoma, where they have different animals.
It's like a refuge, but it's like a kind of like you can get
to see these animals that you never see.
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And I had never seen a hyena like this close up.
And we're walking and I'm looking in there like I don't
really see nothing in there. And I'm like, oh, maybe it's
just a open like a facility for,you know, maybe a bear and the
bears, you know, hibernating. I'm, you know, I'm thinking
something stupid. And also, and I felt like
something was watching me off myleft shoulder and I'm walking
and I got my little 2 year old and I'm like, we're walking.
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We're just kind of bebopping along.
Oh, let's go see the, the lions or whatever, tigers, whatever.
And I look over my left shoulderand there's this this female
hyena in this position in its eyes where I locked onto my
daughter. I had never felt that fear.
I felt like it wasn't locked on me, but it was locked on her.
And it was just like it was, if it could get through that fence,
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it would have got her obviously.But like it was super creepy.
Like I look back and this thing had this look in its eye.
And when it when it when we got kind of further away, it raised
its head up again. And it was just as tall as me.
And I'm almost 6 foot. So the size of these things are
not like I'm used to like these little scrawny little coyote
looking hyenas. You know what you see on TV?
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No, this sucker was like 6 foot tall with its head all the way
up. And just imagine if this thing
was running, you know, and it may be red with a coyote and
sometimes you know, those jeans be Jean in and this thing gets
bigger. So let me know what you guys
think. This is hyena cryptids.
I believe this is episode 95 might be 94, but anyways, I
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They're very, very dangerous. If these fighty sense, you know,
I was like, oh, something's off.I'm just like, man, I'm waiting
to hear something, you know? So this topic came to me almost
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by kind of accident when we're talking about hyena cryptids or
hyenas in general. I was on a podcast almost two
years ago now. There was a story that I had
briefly mentioned on the podcastthat this person had heard, and
it was big for society. I think, you know, a lot of
those interviews in my few yearsago start to run together.
So bear with me if I'm wrong. If I'm wrong and you're from
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over there, let me know. I told this story this time when
I when I used to be a Uber driver, when I was telling this
story, the host was like, yeah, that sounds like a hyena, dude.
I'm like, because I was thinkingthe whole time was a dog man.
And so that story goes, as I wasdriving, picking these two, I
don't know, maybe older high school, early college age girls.
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I can't really remember, you know, I didn't really look at
them. It was dark and I just picked
them up, dropped them off and I just dropped them off up the
road. But they were whispering to
themselves like, what was like, what was that?
I don't know what, what that was.
That was like really big. It can be a dog.
And they were really talking to each other.
Sometimes, you know, you, you listen to people just trying to
eavesdrop and hear what they gotto say because it is, it can be
kind of entertaining, I guess you could say a lot of people's
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drama. But so they're talking and
talking and, you know, they go, yeah, I don't know them guys
really. They're kind of idiots for
messing with that thing. And so I guess these guys that
were that they were at this little, I don't know, field
party, bonfire or whatever, theykind of shooed this thing away.
And but they, the way they described it was like the size
of a smaller car in terms of height in that it looked, I
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guess it had pointy ears. And I didn't, I didn't connect
hyena. I didn't connect that animal.
You know, I'm in my head when they're describing this thinking
of a, you know, like a dog man with the snout.
But they said one weird thing was that the neck was a little
longer. So I'm thinking, you know, maybe
they have talked about hyena hybrids, those who are experts,
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experts, I guess. But you know, I thought it was
really interesting. And so I, I just put that in the
back of my head and I'm OK, Thatstory is there.
And so Jeremiah was his name forbig for a side.
I got sometimes I'd be mixing people's names up in my head.
But you know, he's like that kind of sounds like a hyena and
they're, you know, I think that it might be.
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And so I'm like, that's interesting.
I've never thought of it that way.
I've never, you know, like made it in my head connected that to
a hyena. But it makes sense because the
thing never got up on all 2 legs.
It was really big. It was really tall.
So as this podcast progress and it keeps, you know, getting a
little bit bigger, getting a little bit bigger.
And I get, you know, obviously Idid my interview with Cryptos of
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the Corn while I was talking with Justin, Mr. E and I asked
him, I said, do you think hyenasare running around here in
America right now? He said, yeah, no doubt.
And so we have, you know, about a 1520 minute conversation just
about specifically hyenas. And I told him a story and he
goes, yeah, he's like, that kindof sounds like it.
Because, you know, we equate hyena behavior when they're in a
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pack, you know, to be. We all have seen The Lion King,
right? You know, we kind of think of
they're a little annoying. They got that crazy little
laugh. And we never really truly, you
know, seen them by themselves orI haven't.
And Justin was saying that the difference between them and a
pack and then them separately when they're by themselves is a
totally different animal. They're a social animal, but
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they get almost like a opportunistic more of like watch
and observe kind of more distant.
But they are they're around. You just won't know they're
around. And so when I thought, you know,
thinking back to that story and he's telling me these things,
that makes a lot of sense because you know, this where
they were at was next to this river in South in north or South
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Bigsby across the the river. And it makes sense because it
would be traveling up, maybe looking for small game or maybe
some fish or something, you know, water always attracts
wildlife. And so I get that information
and I'm like, OK, that's interesting.
And then I start putting it out to people on Facebook, which I
don't have Facebook anymore. Guys, just let you guys know if
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you try to reach out e-mail or Xor TikTok, but people start
reaching out through Facebook. And I put it out there to
everybody and I got a few stories here from people.
And then as I did my research, Istarted seeing, you know,
different stories, some of them not really hyena Cryptid like or
some type of weird creature. But I found one from California.
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I believe it was in California. I have to look at my notes, but
it was pretty interesting. And during my research, you
know, one thing that I wasn't aware of, you know, I just
sometimes you just don't look atthese things because like I'm
not really big into hyenas. So sort of say when it came to
like growing up and wanting to watch things get killed like
antelope and all these differenttypes of things.
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But but I didn't realize about hyenas were once native to North
America and with the only hyena species to ever have lived here
was called this long name that Icannot pronounce, but is also
known as the running hyena. And this, they basically lived
anywhere from 5 million to one and a half million years ago and
mainly were found in Arizona andMexico.
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And the running hyena was kind of like a real slender hunter
that was kind of more, you know,curious, like I mentioned before
with when they're by themselves.But they were more kind of
shaped like a wolf than a modern, like what a hyena would
look like. But it was really fast and it
was really good at chasing down prey.
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But to this day they say that there's none out there.
And as we're finding out before Escalante that like, yeah,
there's some things out here that they're saying that's
extinct and it's really not. And according to most
conservation officers or game wardens, there aren't any out
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there. And the only type of hyena type
creature that it is really out here and has been released into
the wild, it's from the public because of exotic people buying
exotic animals. A lot of that is is kind of
based in Florida because Floridakind of has those LAX laws when
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it comes to exotic animal ownership due to like the
iguanas, the pythons, all that good stuff.
To this day there is hardly any reports or any reports really of
a native hyena. And the last known 1 was like
5,000,000 years ago is what they're saying.
So we really don't have a base when it comes to people.
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What people are seeing out here,a story that I've come across
and my mom was telling me that there was a guy out in Muskogee
County, you know, Wagner County area, that was breeding malmutes
and wolves. Those are pretty large animals.
The radius of them I believe is like 200 like miles, which
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covers some of the stories that I'm about to tell.
And I was kind of wonder like what this guy, you know, where
he released him? We never heard nothing, but that
was a rumor that was going around.
And what's crazy is I wish my mom, my mom had this old janky
Galaxy or whatever Samsung phonefor like forever.
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And I wish I would have got thatpicture off of her off her
phone, but she got a picture of something that looked like this
hyena that these people are talking about.
There's like hyena, like lookingcreature.
It had really it looked like a wolf, but it was bigger.
It was like really big. And like she took the picture
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from maybe 100 yards away. And even like from the picture,
you can tell that this thing waslike taller than the the, the
barbed wire fence. So we really never know.
I mean, it could have been a, you know, red wolf, which those
are out kind of Northeast circus.
What is it? Northwest Arkansas.
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And they've kind of found out that the Ozark howler was this
red wolf. But we really don't know.
You know, it's kind of crazy that that could have happened.
And then like these two, you know, this half malamute, half
wolf bred with this red wolf. And now we have this monster
wolf running around here. You just don't know, but I'm
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going to go ahead and share someof these stories and if you have
any, let me know realwarcrypod@gmail.com and let
me know what you think. This first story was sent via
Facebook and it goes like this. Many years ago, I actually saw
exactly what you described. They ran across the road.
I was driving home, which was inLawton, to my home in Anadarko,
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which is about 5 miles from the Apache.
Yi stopped and tried to film this creature.
This one I saw and it was exactly how you described it,
but it was small, like it was a young one.
It was like a cross between a hyena with spots in a mangy
coyote with ears pointing straight up and almost forward
facing. No faster, no faster than you
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would see a coyote run. But it also looked like
something like it was scared or it was running from something
and then it stopped running across after it crossed the road
and it went into the fence or went under the fence and into
the field. There are a couple trees.
And it turned around and waited while I was pulling over and
filming it. It sat very still, and when I
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got out of the car to get closerto film, it ran deeper into the
trees in the weeds. The film was blurry when I went
straight home to my mom and my dad's house to show them because
it freaked me out and I really don't know what that was.
My dad lived by Apache Lake about seven years ago and he
told me of seeing what he thought was a mangy coyote the
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larger he actually saw this thing crossing a tree line on
his way to his house, and the way it ran was almost more
terrifying than what it looked like, but a bit of the same
thing people are describing on your podcast.
Back in 1994 I saw a dead one byon Napa turn off N 69 Highway.
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My car started acting up and I decided to pull off the road and
check it out, you know check my car out and while I was checking
out the motor I caught a whiff of something and man man man it
was this awful funky smell like something was dead but it came
blowing my way. I happened to look down in the
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ditch where the run out like where the water runs off and I
saw what appeared to be 1/2 coyote and half spotted hyena.
It was very strange looking. I got out of there.
I couldn't really put together what it was, but it was very
creepy and one man said that he had seen something similar to
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the Spotted Mangy High or Hyena near Fairfax.
OK, the next story, I'm not surewhat I seen or heard that night,
Natural Falls State State Park. My wife and I were deer hunting
and the sun had just set and as we were walking back to the
truck we got the weirdest feeling that something was
watching us. That feeling followed us all the
way back to the truck. We made it back to the truck and
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all of a sudden we realized thatthere were no sounds coming from
the forest, like it was dead quiet.
It was really creepy. We loaded up in the truck and
took off but as we were driving out I hit something and I looked
and it was a coyote and it was running like it's life depended
on it and whatever was chasing it made the most God awful yell
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and whatever. Whatever was running after the
coyote we only caught a glimpse from the headlights but it was
huge and it was not a bear. I haunted bear in Alaska.
I know what bears look like. I don't know what this giant
thing was and Needless to say wenever have went back there.
In May of 2023 my grandson and Iwere headed E on I-40.
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Not exactly where at but it was east of Okemah or something like
that. Something out that way.
It was the middle of the night and something ran across the
road in front of us. The strangest thing I've ever
seen but it looked like it didn't have any hair but it was
bigger than a dog. We looked at each other and we
both said what it was. We both said at the same time
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the chupacabra. It was the scariest thing I had
ever seen. I also wanted to share on a side
note behind my house is like 5 miles of woods and I've heard
something holler and make different weird noises
especially at night. It sounds big and scary.
I have watched movies on Bigfootand it sounds like just like
what I hear. I come across a story that I
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found very interesting and it's out of California like I
mentioned before and the story goes I used to live in
California training movie animals I was working on.
I was working in Calabasas on a music video shoot until the wee
hours of the morning. As I was driving out of the
Canyon, I saw what I saw, what my mind could only process as a
small hyena on the side of the road.
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It's fairly close to the side ofthe road, but it ran off into
the darkness as I drove closer. I didn't, I didn't get the most
detailed look, but I was baffledbecause it truly looked like a
small hyena. I work mostly wolves out here
and right now our wolf compound there was a hyena.
So I used to see him pretty, youknow, pretty regularly on a
daily basis. I was convinced that it was just
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my mind playing tricks on me. Maybe it was nothing, maybe it
was a bear cub or a bobcat that just looked weird in the dark
with the truck lights on it. I've never seen anything like
this before, and I haven't seen any other sightings of hyenas in
America. Now I'm wondering if I just got
a glimpse of a Cryptid. Now these next two stories are
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going to lead into my relative story.
But there was a gentleman who passed some years ago and he
used to talk about that. This creature, hyena, wolf, dog,
man looking mixture type creature that everyone as you
guys heard these stories, has talked about.
And he said that it lived on themountain between Checotah and
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Warner. OK, Now if you guys don't know,
Warner, Oklahoma is kind of in the middle of nowhere a little
bit. It's just a couple miles, I
would say a couple, but it's some miles from Checotah.
And he always said that when he saw this thing, it had the eyes
the size of lemons, which is very interesting.
And the next story, this is in that same Checotah area, which
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is where I'm going to tell my relative story.
Something ran in front about 3 years ago off business 63 just
north of the Checotahs casino, which is interesting.
He shared it to a few people andthey hadn't heard anything.
And then he shared it on Facebook and didn't really hear
nothing, but he saw my post and decided to share that.
And I, I'm, I'm coming to realize that this thing might be
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living in that area between Checotah and Warner, because my
grandpa one year or my paw, paw on my mom's side, he, we always
like to share stories. And I get a lot of my
storytelling from him where I just, people tell me stories.
And then, you know, down the line, you share the story.
You know, it just, it just becomes like you just a, a
wealth of knowledge. And he comes from farmers.
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If I said his last name, everybody in that Checotah area
would know, you know, who they are.
And he, I think it was Christmas2023 might have been
Thanksgiving. I can't remember, but he was
telling me he, we were just sitting there talking.
He, he in my little cousin. And he's not little no more, but
he's my little cousin was like, Papa, go ahead and tell that
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story. What you saw out by the, the
pond. And I'm, you know, I'm thinking
he's going to tell some crazy story.
He's always got crazy stories and I bitch, I may share some of
those. Just messing around as a country
kid out in the middle of Wainwright.
OK, just doing the craziest stuff.
But he was telling me that one day he was out on the Ranger,
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you know, checking fences. He just makes rounds or
whatever. He's got so much land.
He run a operation out there andhe looked on the pond and he saw
this weird looking animal he never seen before.
And you know, he's been out in those woods surrounding area
woods he's been in all in it andhe never seen anything like
this. And he was kind of not scared,
but he's just kind of taken aback.
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Well, he has his dog George shout out George, that dude's a
menace. He's a any anything that comes
around him, he's going to kill it.
And he this his dog George was just scared, whimpering, real
upset and was just so like didn't want him getting out the
Ranger. But my paw paw was looking.
He's really looking and he kept getting closer and then he just
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kind of looked and was watching it.
And George was, you know, most times he would jump out there if
it was a deer or a rabbit, coyote, he'd go out there and
kill it, catch it and kill it. But he wasn't wanting no part of
this animal, whatever this was. So he described, he said it had
a real kind of a long like body,but its head was long.
And he, I said, did they have pointy ears?
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He said, yeah, they were kind offorward facing kind of
something. I just he had a hard time
describing it. And he went and I literally, I
literally went on Google and typed in dog man.
I, I said, was it this? He said no.
And no. He and I kept I showed him OK,
so I showed him the different types that people talk about,
about dog man. I'm thinking he saw a dog man.
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I'm like that he saw a dog man. This is the middle of the day.
I'm thinking he saw one which iscrazy.
And he's like, no, I said, I'm going to show you a hyena.
So I showed him a hyena, a full grown 1.
He said kind of maybe, but no. And I kept just showing him
these different pictures of maybe a mangy hyena.
He said. He kind of said it looked
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similar, but not really. And after a while I started
asking questions. I said, well, did it see you?
He said, I don't think it did. He said, but it looked like it
might have because it looked over in our direction, but I
don't know if it saw us because he was off.
The pawn is kind of up on a it'skind of up a little bit.
And so he was down. I mean, there's, I don't know
how it wouldn't see him because there's passion, but he just
said it didn't it act like it didn't acknowledge us basically.
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But George was so scared. He said it did the weirdest,
craziest thing. And then like as you, as you get
more on the other side of the pond, there's just like a like a
tree line. And he said that when this thing
kind of did what it was doing onthis on this pond bank, he said
he's never seen anything run this fast.
And I almost kind of in my head thought it was a cheetah because
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he didn't say it. He said it was just like a, like
black, like a, like a blackish brownish Gray.
Like it had like a weird, like it was a tent.
Like how, how, how, how Jesus, if I can say it, how hyenas have
that kind of that brownish tint.And so I, I kept asking
questions about what it do when you, you know, when it took off.
And he said it was the fastest animal he had ever seen.
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And he said it, I almost didn't believe it.
So when it ran off the palm bankinto the tree line, he said, I
said how many steps did it take?He said it was like it was
almost floating. It was going so fast.
And in my like I said in my headI thought cheetah cuz if you
watch the slow down version of acheetah, it looks like they're
floating almost. But he said it it went off and
it basically he said took. I don't know.
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He said it was like maybe 10 steps from the tree line because
it was like going so it like took off so fast that it like it
literally would just touch and it would just propel itself.
And then it and he's like, it floated from like 20 feet over
the fence and into the tree line.
And I'm like, and I'm baffled. I'm so baffled.
I don't really know what, what he's talking about or what, what
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animal this was. And then I started doing
research on the Ozark Howler andthen I started looking into
these hyenas. And this is what got me on the
topic. And this is kind of why I put it
that Facebook post out was to see if anyone heard anything.
Well, sometime later his buddy got a hold of him and said, hey,
have you seen anything like this?
He had seen the same creature, described it the exact same way,
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kind of a long, slender body. But one detail I wish I should
have, I would have asked is did he see a tail?
Was it bobbed? And I didn't ask that.
That's the question that maybe I'll have to ask and update
y'all on a live stream. But basically he said that the
he saw the same thing and it wasstanding underneath the light of
his barn. He had some, I think he had some
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animals in there. Maybe he got real scared.
He said he'd never seen anythinglike this.
And now when I when I read thesestories about someone seeing
something over by Checotah, you know, a couple times, you know,
that makes me believe that maybethis hyena, you know, got with a
coyote and maybe got with a dog and it's just like a it's an
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animal. Maybe we haven't really seen a
lot of and there's more, there'smore.
I'm wondering if he had any of this.
So I haven't asked him in a while, but that always makes me
kind of wonder if we maybe we dohave hyenas that are bred into
different things, different animals.
That would be interesting. And what animal would that look
like? But I asked him, I said, was it
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like a cat? He said it had cat like
tendencies and I asked Justin about this from cryptids of the
corn and I said, well, I said, does that sound like anything?
He said, man, that sounds like ahyena.
He said they run, they can take off.
I said, but like 10 steps from like a like a acre over, I said,
can they jump like that? And he said no, But like I'm
also kind of wondering if the, you know, there's these dogs.
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What are those dogs that can jump real high?
I can't think of the name of them, but the police officers
use them. They aren't German shepherds,
but I'm like wondering if it mixed with that now it's like
this ultra athletic strong animal.
What do you guys think in the common?
Let me know when you hear this. Let me know in the in the
comments or if you're on Patreonin the comments or even on
Spotify, right. Leave me something and let me
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know what you think and if you've heard anything like this
because I'm a little baffled by it and it has taken me on this
journey of looking into this hyena Cryptid and it's weird,
but let me know what you guys think.
I think it is a hyena Cryptid. I think that maybe I hate, you
know, this can get crazy, but maybe a dog man mixed with the
hyena mixed with the coyote because he said it wasn't that
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big. It just was like long.
It was like really long and its head was long.
Like its neck was long, longer than like a dog's.
I've told this story before whenI went to what was the name of
that place? It's in Tuttle, Tuttle,
Oklahoma, where they have different animals.
It's like a refuge, but it's like a kind of like you can get
to see these animals that you never see.
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And I had never seen a hyena like this close up.
And we're walking and I'm looking in there like I don't
really see nothing in there. And I'm like, oh, maybe it's
just a open like a facility for,you know, maybe a bear and the
bears, you know, hibernating. I'm, you know, I'm thinking
something stupid. And also, and I felt like
something was watching me off myleft shoulder and I'm walking
and I got my little 2 year old and I'm like, we're walking.
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We're just kind of bebopping along.
Oh, let's go see the, the lions or whatever, tigers, whatever.
And I look over my left shoulderand there's this this female
hyena in this position in its eyes where I locked onto my
daughter. I had never felt that fear.
I felt like it wasn't locked on me, but it was locked on her.
And it was just like it was, if it could get through that fence,
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it would have got her obviously.But like it was super creepy.
Like I look back and this thing had this look in its eye.
And when it when it when we got kind of further away, it raised
its head up again. And it was just as tall as me.
And I'm almost 6 foot. So the size of these things are
not like I'm used to like these little scrawny little coyote
looking hyenas. You know what you see on TV?
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No, this sucker was like 6 foot tall with its head all the way
up. And just imagine if this thing
was running, you know, and it may be red with a coyote and
sometimes you know, those jeans be Jean in and this thing gets
bigger. So let me know what you guys
think. This is hyena cryptids.
I believe this is episode 95 might be 94, but anyways, I
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appreciate you guys for continueto support the podcast.
We're slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly getting to 100.
I cannot wait. I'm trying to devise on what I
want to do and I think I'm goingto have some guests.
I know I'm going to. I'm going to keep polling you
guys on what you guys want want to happen.
The Tulsa Shaped Shifter Skinwalker episode is coming
(27:06):
soon, maybe here in the next fewdays.
I'm recording this podcast the last week of March, but I
appreciate you guys for supporting the podcast and I'm
going to catch on the next one.
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