Road to 100 | Bigfoot, Dogman, Conspiracies & more | Tik Tok Live - War Cry Podcast

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If these fighting sense. You know, I was like,
something's off. And I'm just like, man, I'm
waiting to hear something. You know, wherever we go,
they're always going to be around us.

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These things that go bump in thenight.
So this is from a live stream that I did on TikTok couple
months ago. We're on the road to the 100th
episode, so I hope you guys enjoy.
There's a lot of stuff in this one, so let's get over there.
What's going on? Everyone letting some people

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kind of feel out in here. Eventually I'm going to promote
these bad boys. I think last time I was at it
like this, it was a bit egregious, but I don't know if
you guys can hear me how good itsounds.
I don't want to set up all my mics and stuff, my equipment, my
sound, but my little baby sound board I have, I do not want to
set that up. So I'm just keeping it, keeping

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it as greasy as possible, sheisty as possible.
Just the least amount of effort.But we're going to be talking
stories. We're going to be doing telling
stories, maybe a few conspiracy theories, maybe some news.
Not really news, but news, not really a lot of gossip.

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We're just going, we're going tohang out.
We're going to have a good time.What else we going to talk
about? I may give you all some movie
recommendations. There's a lot of things that you
know, that I've been just petering on in my mind and in my
mind's eyes. Like what I like to say is, you
know, just the different things and that I see on here.

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I know the school supplies thingwas kind of crazy.
I know school has already started for some people.
But yeah, we're going to get into a few things.
And if you got any type of, I don't know, suggestion on a, on
a topic or a story. You want to tell our story
topic, put it in the comments. I'm reading those.

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I'm doing my doing my best to read the comments.
People join in coming in and out.
Appreciate you. It's 3:00 central Standard Time.
I like to be on time, but let meknow what you guys want to talk
about. We can talk about anything.
I can let it RIP. You say just let it RIP, dude.

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But I'm just trying to try to get on live more, especially
with everybody following me. Everyone that's kind of crazy
too, because like 5K hit quick and you know, it's it's it's
crazy to me that there are people out there who either have
not either a have not heard the type of story that I that I tell

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or B have heard this a story or heard something similar or C
experienced the entity or the being or the the incident in
question or whatever. They, you know, whatever the
story man tell because it's there's a lot here, especially

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here in Oklahoma. There's just so much going on
just in general. Like I was, I was out at, I had
to do some run some business running around.
I want to say it was like new Tulsa out there by Catoosa.
And for the most part I was like, OK, this is pretty wooded.

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It's a wooded, it's a decently wooded area.
I mean, I just don't think of new Tulsa, you know, it's not
something that pops up in my mind, but I was kind of
surprised at like the amount of new addition houses that are
going up on these lands. And I always have this is like
a, this is like a mainstay question that I get all the

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time. And I, I mean, I get, I got one
yesterday, but what if I have something on my property or if I
have something on my, my land ormy newly built house is haunted?
What do I do? And like, every time that I have
to, I have to tell people that like they want me to give them

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native advice. And really, if I told you, if I
told you to smoke your house offor pray or whatever, you know,
if you don't believe in those things, it's not going to work.
It never works. And so when people will say,
well, you know, because I alwaysusually generally be like, hey,

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what do you believe in? Are you a Christian?
You know, are you a former Christianity?
Are you Catholic? Are you Pagan?
Or you believe in witchcraft, New witchcraft, which I didn't
know that new witchcraft and oldwitchcraft are two separate
things. But like, whatever you believe
in, if you don't use that to getrid of like a ghost, like the

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stuff that I tell you like, hey,yeah, go smoke your house off.
Like the general, just basic information.
Oh yeah, just go smoke your house off.
Like generally that's probably not going to work as you don't
believe in that. Now, unless you do believe in
that, then it's probably going to work.
But I had a gentleman one time reach out to me.
He was really, he was kind of scared.

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Like he was really kind of worried.
He had his, his kids used to runaround this pond near his house.
And he was asking me like, well,what, what should I do?
And I'm just like, you have to just you, you have to just leave
him alone. Because he thought he had LP.

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Because I told a story about howLP are kind of drawn sometimes
to clean water like springs or underground waters.
And that's kind of what they, they hang around sometimes.
And I was telling him this storyor telling the story and he
reached out and he was like whenI had to tell him like, that's
really not what you need to be like worried about if your kids

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see something that just doesn't seem right.
Like it's almost like if you sawsomething that was out of place.
So if you're in the woods and you see something that you're
like, oh, that doesn't even why would that be there?
That's probably LP like they're,they're trying to get your mind
to be like, oh, what's that? And to keep following and to
keep going further into, you know, whatever location you're

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at. And I had to tell the gentleman,
it's like, well, I would just leave him alone.
And he was like, well, I thoughtabout giving him an offering and
I'm like, probably wouldn't, andthat's just me.
I probably wouldn't just for thesimple fact that like, you don't
know really what you're dealing with.
I don't even know what he's dealing with.

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And he had a lot of weird stuff come up missing and just kind of
weird odds and in things that like if you were a non believer
in the paranormal, you would just think, Oh, my mind slipped
and I just forgot to, to do that.
But it's just, it's, it's interesting to see the different
people who you know, either a ordon't believe in it or B they do

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believe in it or C, they have ithappen to them.
Just yapping away over here, just a yapping dude.
And if y'all could for me, yo hit the screen, just tap the

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screen when you guys, I guess there's nobody in here now, 3:00
in the afternoon, just kind of hanging out.
Probably go for hour. But yeah, probably go for about

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an hour. I think TikTok Live.
I'm I'm like not the most like I'm not the best at knowing
what's going on on TikTok live because I haven't ever really
done it. But it's the second time I did
one this morning, just kind of seeing what the temperature was.
It was pretty, it was pretty dead, but it is what it is.

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I'll just come on here in the app and use it for the podcast.
If you got a comment or questionor if you want to talk about
something or you want me to talkabout something, go ahead and
comment below. Eventually I want to get into
having people on here, but I ain't going to lie to you.
I had what was it the live stream I did on Friday.
I had to cut it off, man. I had dudes in here while and

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now talking about they was on the hub and they let their let
their fingers slip and I and I happen to pop up.
I just, I don't, I don't understand the I had to be a
young dude because ain't nobody thinking of that.
Like I think the hub in Oklahomais cancelled with that new law

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that went into effect. Now you got to put in your
driver's license and you're cooked.
Sorry, guys, fellas out there. You know you're cooked.
But but let me know in the comments.
You know, if you, you know something you want a topic you
want to talk about or a questionor just really anything because
you know, I'm always talking. I mean, I could talk about just

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about anything. But I've been pondering on the
100th episode. I'm going to have Rod from Lodge
Tales on there just for the simple fact that like the dudes
got a lot of stories and he's like really knowledgeable.
That's coming. I want to say early September.

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I am enjoying the summer. Our AC went out.
What was it 2 weeks ago, 3 weeksago.
And so we've had to put in window units.
I felt like I was in 19, like 99or early 2000s with these window
units. It just feels like I am, I've,

(10:39):
I've, we've taken a step back. But honestly, I'm not even going
to lie to y'all the it's, it's better in a sense.
It is better, I think our. Electric bills down so like hey,
let's see here I'm just yapping y'all BJ White bird said what's

(11:00):
up what's going on with you? I hope everything's well man.
I think said I had a whole influx of new followers.
I never really took TikTok that serious.
I was I'm a huge YouTube guy andlike not like in terms of
following, but just in terms of like that's what I like.
That's the content that I that Ithe media that I consume.

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But TikTok seems like I mean it's probably going away.
Then everything will be moved toYouTube and I'll start going
live on YouTube. But but let me know what topic
put it in the comments. Let me know.
I can tell LP story. I can tell you my Houston serial
killer story. I don't know if it was a serial
killer. I'm just being funny, but I had

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a crazy run in with something weird in Houston with somebody
that was chasing after me. I have told my devil story.
I think I met the devil. I've told that story is on
TikTok. But I can tell here obviously.
I mean, I can tell anything, butI got family stories.

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I had some people commenting on the Chitto Harjo to video and I
was always told that he was kindof real.
He was rough. He was rugged.
He's a rugged dude. But that gang, I didn't know
that Chitto meant was like something like snake, which I
didn't know that at all. And I thought that was pretty

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interesting. Let's see here.
BJ White Bird says they want to hear a ghost story.
All right, I got a ghost story for you.
Hit that hit that I want y'all to have arthritis by the end of
this just hitting that screens and let me know if you when you
hit that screen let me know if this do you think this story is

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any good but. All right.
Now this story happened, I can'tremember if it was in like late
high school or early college, but we were always, I mean,
always down at Murrow Home Park,always out in Park Hill,

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Tahlequah, basically. And we always, man was just
going down there and ghost hunting.
And we were, we'd get up in themtrails.
And so when you enter, there's abridge that goes across into the
trails that go up and they go upinto the hill area.
And one night we were out there.We're on this little campfire

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that's near the the bridge and we're all hanging out.
I'm telling stories. I'm starting to get the creeps.
I start getting this Spidey sense starts kind of coming over
me, like I get start getting something's here, like I feel
something. And so I said, all right, let's
make our way back. And there's a light that was
sitting right where the trail is.

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So like, did you go across the bridge?
You have this like little welcome sign that has a bunch of
brochures or did and then there was a one light and you could
see basically kind of the out shadows of it.
And as I'm as I'm sitting there or as we're walking back, we see
a cat and I'm like, is that a cat?
And I'm kind of real looking. It's hard to see.

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We when we got at the time was like a old school iPhone.
So you're trying to trying to see in the dark and can't really
see and also not start. I look on the opposite side and
there's, you know, that cat, butalso as we get closer, it's
making like it's moving backwards.
So we're moving forwards, It's moving backwards and as it

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starts getting out of that light, it starts getting a
little bigger, like I'd say probably baby size, but it was
standing up and we see things like that out there.
And you know, another time when I was a little when I was a
little guy, No, I wasn't a little guy.

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I'll save that story. That's ALP story.
I'll. Save that story.
But we were one of the times we was out there and I was like I
said, high school, college. And we were driving on the road
and we were leaving. And I swear to you, there was a
guy sitting standing at the at that house, Morrow home.

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And he was standing under the light, but he had a hat on like
a old school, like 1800s type hat.
And he was just standing there under the light where you could
see the like where the light was, was hitting him from the
back and you couldn't see his face.
It was just a dark figure underneath that light.
And I'm like, Oh my God, me and my buddy, I was in the the

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passenger seat and my other buddy was in the back seat.
And I said, look, what is that? And we and we all of us looked
and the driver buddy of mine, helooked and we're like, Oh my
God, what is that? You know, we start getting I'm
getting goose. I was telling us, but we written
real kind of scared. We're getting freaked out.
So we're like, oh, and also I look up like I'm looking back on

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the road and we're on the opposite side of the road about
to go into the ditch and hit a telephone pole.
And I'm like. I was like, look.
And I like pulled on the Dang, I'm sorry, I'm surprised I
didn't flip us, but I think my buddy had such a Dang tight
handle on that vehicle on the wheel that like it kept us from
like I corrected this almost notjust right, but like to get back

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on the road. And I'm like, look, and I pull
on down and my buddy, the buddy I was driving was a real scaredy
cat. Like he did not like that.
He didn't like ghost hunting. We forced him to go because he
had a Jeep. But yeah, we pulled on that and
I pulled on that and we took offand he was scared, man.
He's I ain't going back. I ain't going back because like,

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I don't know what that was. And I know people as growing up,
I know a lot of people were would tell us about the them
seeing security footage of Merlehome and they'd, they'd see over
the course of a night. There'd be like a little chair
that would just be kind of move slowly.
It just kind of creep its way. And then they go in there and

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check on it and it'd be back to how it was.
And I'm like, God, that's creepy.
But we had a lot of that stuff growing up.
You know, you, you kind of hear hearsay.
I know Sequoia high school dormswere real creepy.
They were like real, real creepy.
But that's a guy that's a ghoster.

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I told you a few of them. I had to empty the clip on you.
But yeah, let me know. Let me know what what topic you
want to hit and, and hit that hit that like button.
If you like those stories, if you like the moral home stories,
appreciate it. But, but there's all just

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different, different things growing up, especially in
Tahlequah, I was, I'm a Woodall Wildcat, went to Woodall Wildcat
and played against Briggs. And I think we might have played
Kenwood one or two times. I think that we had them in
tournaments, Briggs 10, Killer Lowry, Shady Grove, all those

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places, man, it's like and I used to go, I used to make the
to to the like the different tournaments all over the place
and the only time I played over at Kenwood, I never realized how
rez doubt some of these basketball teams are.
I just kind of I was kind of I'ma I'm a basketball elitist, so I

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think things got to be perfect for me.
I'm elitist in that way when it comes to basketball.
I said, Dang, I got some unks inhere, man balling out, rolling
ankles. Dang, I was like, man, one dude
landed just right and you can see a little he like you can
tell when he came down, he jumped.
He probably got like this far off the ground trying to

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swatter. Something came down.
He realized something's wrong. My you know, my body.
I got to get out here. So he's like sub me out.
He subbed out mid game. That's how you know, the Unks
was, you know, they trying to relive them glory days.
Damn, I feel like me playing Cherokee Holiday last.
Year. And I was out there, tore up
ankle man, trying to relive my glory days.

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Let's see here, BJ White Bird said.
Have you ever been to Fort Reno?I have not been to Fort Reno.
Is that I guess that's I'm assuming that's out in no Reno.
I've never been out that way. I spoke to somebody who watched
the the Lucky Star Casino Bigfoot footage.

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That was back in the early 2000s.
I had her on the podcast. She was a manager over there,
but she was telling me that damn, the Men in Black story was
for real. Men in Black really came to that
casino and she said that they look like, they look like guys

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who like, I didn't have no facial features, but they just
showed up and like they look like they were human, but they
looked, they look right. It's what she's telling me.
There's different people being like, Oh yeah, I don't say
nothing, don't say nothing. And, and it was confirmed I had,
I had another person confirm that too.
So I was like, man, OK, so this.Is for real.
And we were doing that interview.

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We were live actually doing it on YouTube.
And the feed cut out like her, like something booted her all
the way off. Like all the way off.
Oh, is that you? OK.
Dang, I didn't even see you there.
OK. Yeah.

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Yeah. So I was talking to.
Yeah, BJ White Bear. That's who I was talking to.
I know you were something else, but but yeah, that was a that
was a great story. I mean, I remember leaving.
That was like, man, I can't evenbelieve this because like I had
someone else, I had another person who worked with the
Buffalo out that way. And they were telling me that,

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yeah, they would feed those those Buffalo different kind of
human type food sometimes and just as a treat or whatever.
And they were seeing they'd be out there.
I'm like, we got too many, we got too much technology.
Now these bigfoots know that like they know that like all
they're out here filming, like Ihonestly think too is people ask

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me too sometimes. Well.
How do you? Think that this person sees it
and this other person does it right.
I've been out in the woods 30 years and follower commented
something to me that I thought, yeah, 2000 when that was, but I
pray reach out to me. I got it.
I got a hit for a Part 2. I got a I got some more

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questions and I got I got some things in my mind.
I probably I want to talk with you about if you, if you want to
reach out to me and do another interview.
But I have I've had people reachout to me and ask me, Oh, I've
been out or say things like I'vebeen out there 30 years.
I ain't never seen nothing. I never Bigfoot's not real.

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I've been hunting. It's like, and someone commented
back was like, well, maybe it ain't for you.
And I've that has stuck with me for a while because.
That that does happen, like it'snot, it is not out of the realm
of possibility where something just isn't for you.
Like I've commented back on people who have, you know,

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different. Videos of bunch of people
comment on they say, well I hadn't seen nothing and I'm like
maybe you're the spooky one. Maybe you're haunting your
workplace, you know, maybe you're in an alternate thing and
you think that you're the person, but you're really just a
ghost. I don't know, because so many

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people are telling me that thesethings are happening and like
people are seeing them and then they're telling me their stories
and it's just like, I don't understand how you not, you
know, see it, but I don't know, I don't know.
But I also think too Bigfoot, they want you to stay.
It's like, it's like a often kind of wonder if they have if

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Bigfoot have their own rituals. Oh, you got it like you like you
got. We see these these old timey
movies and they say, oh, young one, go and get your, you know,
go get your stripes. Like that Prey movie, that
Predator movie where she had to go or they had to go out and
kill a Mountain Lion to prove that they're, you know, old

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enough or whatever, man enough, whatever, or to be able to, you
know, become a warrior. I wonder if that's the same
thing Bigfoot does. I'll be wondering that sometimes
like I'll be, I'll be really thinking like maybe that's what
they do and that's why people see them like, oh, this one's an
easy one. It's just a hiker walking by.
Let me step out and scare them real quick.

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I always wonder that because I also wonder too if if there's
something that each of. Us humans have that radiates.
Now I've heard a physical aspectof that like female like females
are more likely is what I've heard to encounter Bigfoot
because of the pheromones. I guess women let off.

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I don't I don't know. I'm not a scientist.
That's not my you know, that's not my that's not my gig.
But but I often wonder if that'swhat that is, is if they know
when a person has a certain thing about them.
And I'm talking in in riddles ina sense, because I don't really

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know how to describe it. I'm going to work this out in my
head. But maybe it's them trying to
maybe they they send something about the person that's passing
by and you maybe that's what it is.
Let me look here in the comments.
I've seen a few people. OK, what year 2000?

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My dad used to say that all the time.
It's just not for you, everyone.I think so too, 100%.
I think paranormal things happento people.
One, I think they're looking forit #2 I think that there's
something that each one of us isborn with that just happens to,
you know, link up with that, that other side.

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Native American tomboy. Hi, how's it going?
You believe in Bigfoot too? You think he's a male species?
I think I think Bigfoot is all, you know, I think Bigfoot is
everything male, female childrenlike I had, I mentioned on one
live stream that I had a Hunter's the paranormal.
He's on here. He posts different pictures and

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stuff that he finds. He saw a baby one.
No, he he saw a baby Bigfoot. So that means they're they're
obviously reproducing in some form or fashion.
But I just think that I think that women, you know, there's
like a pheromone thing with animals, that there's like a, a
scent that makes them want to check whatever, you know,

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whatever's passing by. I think it's they could be that
primal or that primitive of a like a biological thing.
But I also wonder too, if they know that certain humans have an
ability to see them. I think sometimes people, I
think sometimes they're standingright next to you.

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You know, you don't even see them because you're not meant to
see them. That's not for you.
And I think a lot of times people will hear things like
hunters, hunters have been telling and I've seen stories
about this on online and I've had different hunters tell me
stuff. But like the the forest will
just go quiet and there's nothing crickets, birds or

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birds, nothing bugs, All that stuff is just quiet.
It's, you know, just like it's nothing.
And they, oh, that's weird and keep bebopping along.
I think that's tied into a little bit of that missing 4112.
Now, I don't want to say nothingbad about David Pilates.
I do follow him. He is very, very particular

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about the way that you comment on his stuff.
I believe that that might be a part of it.
I think LP is a part of it too. I think 1000% LP is a part of
missing 411. I think 1000%.
I'm just trying to think off thetop of my head.
What else? But yeah, no, it's just, I think

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Bigfoot's just not. I don't think.
I think that some people just belike out there hiking and that
that dudes just like right there, that that Bigfoot's or
that Bigfoot's just right there,like sitting next to him.
I got 100,000% believe that that's that happens all the
time. I just think people don't even
realize it. My aunt told me not to be
scared, but I ain't messing. Yeah, I don't I stopped ghost

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hunting because I got yelled at by something that came out from
under a bridge and emerald home.I stopped.
I ain't I didn't go out. I had been out since I went out
with a. Little bit with spirit talkers
we did a. A storytelling in hominy on
Osage country. And we were out of this park.

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It might have been home. No, we was.
No, this hominy was hominy and we were out at this park and
I'm, I already knew I was like, man, I probably shouldn't be out
here. I don't even be, I don't even
want to be out here like this. But I was out here and we're
looking and you know, they were telling us the history of
different parks. And because I think it was a
park out out in harmony that some either a couple people

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drown or a baby drown, somebody drown out there.
And they were telling us about those stories.
And me and this young guy, we kind of got out ahead.
You know, he was asking me something that I'd said or on
during the the storytelling event that I was guest host.
And we're sitting there talking and we both kind of like looked

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out of the corner of our eye Andthere was something little like
real little just went across like that from like the one of
the play play equipment to another real quick like, like,
and we looked at each other and we said, what was that?
And then you can see it kind of like, and it took off again off
towards like the bathrooms and we looked at you and I said, all

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right, man, I'm on, I'm going totake a step back here.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to deal with any of that stuff
because I, I just, that's the out.
And that's another thing too is when you mess with a lot of that
stuff, man, you just get bad energy.
Like when I, when I, that's a lot of reason why I started
taking breaks on the podcast is like my mental health was

(29:51):
horrific. Talking about that stuff all the
time. Like they'll be aspects of my
show where like I'll, I'll talk about conspiracies for like 3 or
4 episodes. Because like, I think when you
talk about certain things and give details, you're inviting it
in or you're, you know, that's been a thing for, with Indians

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for forever. But you know, it's, it's, it's
all types of stuff out there in all types of just energies out
there. Because like when I was talking
about dog man, I was having, I was on a bunch of I was on a dog
man podcast. I was talking about this over
here and man, I swear I thought I saw a dog man.

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It's all it's I posted a full story on on my page calling like
shadow being or something. But that fool look just like a
dog man. I was like, man, I had literally
I was thinking, maybe I was thinking maybe you know,
somebody because when you talk about these things, and I'm not
going to be a hater to us Indians, but we do be hating on

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each other a little bit. We do be doing those things to
each other. You know, it's like a what they
call it a crabs in a barrel typemindset.
Sometimes we're like, we try to like people that's bad on here
on TikTok, people try to prove that they're Indian all the
time. Oh, you know, I'm, I'm a really
Indian. I can talk about these things,
but I don't, I don't really get into that discourse.

(31:17):
But sometimes, you know, I thinkmaybe someone might have sent
something that way. You know, I'm not I I'm by no
means we try to disrespect people, but you know that that
happens. My my family was growing up has
always kind of been that way. Let's see here question.

(31:42):
May I ask respectfully what you think about?
I don't what cereal hotel. What it what does that mean?
Cereal hotel? What is a cereal hotel?
Man, I could I could eat some cereal right now.
Low key. Don't forget about don't forget
their grandma's tricky Princess.Yeah, it's like I said, I don't

(32:06):
I'm, I'm not really. I, I don't truly have an opinion
about that because I have a lot of people, my family who are
mixed and I'm mixed. My, both my parents are Indian,
but like, you know, we got, we got different things flowing
through US. My dad's, my dad is full blood,

(32:28):
but he's like half Creek, 1/4 shine shine Arapahoe and then a
quarter Kiowa. You know, so and so I don't
really get into that discourse because I'm just kind of AI
think one thing that working in especially working in municipal

(32:48):
government, my Indian rage has taken a new height because of
that. So I don't really look at the
people I'm not looking at like this person all just this
person's blonde hair, blue eyes,but they're Indian.
Like I don't look at it like that because I know that there's
people up here who want to splitup Indians just based on skin

(33:12):
color and based on who you votedfor.
And that's a lot of the, that's a lot of it for me is that I've
seen that like I have, I had, this is about four years ago,
I'd come up with a whole plan todo an Indian festival in Tulsa
and it got shot down, said, oh, well, there's people out here

(33:35):
that would, you know, they, theywould think that that's a little
bit racist. And I'm just like, but it's not
just, it's a, it's an event for everyone to understand the
history of this area, you know, this area, you know, it's got a
lot of history. And but that's why I don't
really care to, to deal with thediscourse of, you know, blood

(33:57):
quantum. Now, I do have a very strong
opinion about blood quantum because I have just done a lot
of history. I've read a lot of history on
what those Europeans did over there in the 30s and that how
they took what they did here over there and you know, you've

(34:17):
got to read something. So I, I welcome all people if
you won and you, like I said, there may be some people that
are listening to this and be like, oh, this guy colonizer,
blah, blah, blah. Why, you know, he, he allows the
pretendians like, no, there's a way you can tell, which is that
simple. He's got Is there certain
questions you ask and then guesswhat, you move on.

(34:39):
You know, I know there's a lot of people that will will will
die by that sword on this this app, but I'm not one of them.
I'm I'm a guy who grew up experiencing a lot of things out
in Tahlequah, OK moved to Fort Gibson area ran around in
Muskogee for a couple years and then moved to Tulsa and then has

(35:02):
had creepy stuff follow me all the way to Tulsa.
Then I moved out to Oklahoma City, take a municipal job with
the government out that way. And so I, I see it 100%, you
know, is it's not you and me. It's, it's up here.
And that's a lot of it. And I think a lot of us, we, we

(35:23):
do this thing where we fight with each other.
And I'm not, like I said, you can disagree with me.
That's fine. You know, you, if I'm not trying
to be rude to anybody, but if you're rude to me, I'm going to
clap back. That's just, I've always been
that way. That's that Muskogee Creek side
of me. We're going to clap back and you
know, it's it is what it is, butI got a few comments here

(35:47):
choices. Why you leave Spirit talkers
podcast. Dang, so I answered this one
Friday, but I'll I'll answer it here again for those who didn't
hear that, but I I moved out to Oklahoma City.
Literally Russell and I at the time lived literally like down
the street from each other. So it's easier for me to pick
like do things. I also had one kid.

(36:09):
I have two kids now. It's just harder.
It's just like trying to balance, you know, work and then
also like kids and then wife andthen so it's just like I don't,
I necessarily don't really have much bandwidth honestly, like
mentally like if that's why I have that's what I mentioned

(36:30):
earlier. I take breaks on my podcast
because it just comes to a pointwhere like my mental health
starts getting bad. So on my eye, let me take a step
back and we worry about the things that are actually
important to me. I mean, the podcast is important
to me. It's just there's levels to it,
you know, and maybe back when I was in my early 20s or mid 20s,
I'd be more apt to just do things.

(36:52):
But now it's more of like, all right, what's this?
How's this going to affect me 3 months from now, four months
from now, five months from now. And, you know, going out to
Oklahoma City out in my eyes were already open, but they're
like now they're like this size because I understand the
language of certain things and the way how people operate and
how things operate. And so I'm, I'm more just kind
of want to be in control of my, of what I'm doing right now.

(37:17):
Because one thing I I'm bad about, and I, I understand this
about myself is that I am AI am a under promise and over deliver
type of guy. Like I'm going to tell you, I
may do that. Yeah, but then I go all in and
that's just how I that's how I am.

(37:39):
And so I when I took him a city,took a job, literally just the.
I mean, my mental health for that job is the worst.
And so once that chapter of my life is over, you know, I just,
I just, I can't have any time. Native American tomboy says
Cecil Hotel. Oh man, you know, I saw a

(38:02):
documentary about the Cecil Hotel and I guess, I guess the
Night Stalker live there, but I don't really know much about I'm
not really from California. I don't really know like what's
going on with that. You know, I, I mean, I've seen
documentaries about it and I know it's haunted to all get
out, but I haven't, I don't really know much about it.

(38:26):
Hit that, hit the screen. Y'all need y'all have arthritis.
I'm hating like that. Let's see here.
My girlfriend is white. It's all in the heart.
Yeah. I mean, it's like now there's
one thing about being with somebody who's non-native is
that and it's with on like black, Asian white.

(38:49):
Like there is a certain way thatwe are like, I didn't realize
how not crass, but I, I am kind of a, I'm kind of crass.
I ain't gonna lie. I didn't really, it didn't.
I've been around crafts people my whole life, like people who
just like you say something to me and I'm like, oh, OK, I got

(39:11):
you, you know, did roast, pure roast, cut you down and like you
got kind of get a thick skin up to that.
You kind of, as you start interacting with people who
aren't of, you know, around you,you know, it, you got to operate
different. And like when I moved to Tulsa,
I understand like I had to operate different because like
small town, you can kind of be more rugged with each other.

(39:34):
You know, you know, everybody, you know something about
somebody, you know, So you just kind of more rugged in that way.
But that's why that's why I justlike said, it's just different.
And also to like, I'm Muskogee Creek, I'm Dang, I'm dangly
related. Everybody Muskogee Creek like
keep it, keep it 1000%. I could be like, I could,

(39:57):
someone could reach out to me. We cousins.
I had like 3 people, but I thinkwe cousins, I might, we might be
who's your, who's your grandma? Oh, it's so and so I'm like, God
damn, we cousins. That was like me in the in like
my mid 20s before I met my wife.Like I literally meet, you know,
somebody like, oh, I'm related to so.
And so I'm like, oh, Dang, all right, well, all right, cousin

(40:17):
Kim folk. That's why I started calling
people. Just I started calling people
Kim folk even though we wasn't Ken because you just never know.
Let's see here, Aaron says. Congratulations on the kids,
man. Yeah, it's I'll tell you what I
was like before I met my wife orI start having kids.

(40:38):
Like I can feel myself like not spiraling out, but I felt like I
was just going nowhere. I feel like I was just like, so
then when I had my first daughter and then, you know,
have my grandpa passed three days later, I never could
actually grieve about my grandpabecause I had a little 1.
So that's good for me because I need my mind needs to stay busy.

(41:00):
My mind has to be connecting dots and figuring things out and
moving and shaking. That's just, you know, that's
how my mind is always work. Like, I may be like sedentary,
but I'm not sedentary up here. My mind is always, you know,
putting stuff together. So, but having kids, man, like,
I don't say, I mean right now inthe economy, you know, having

(41:23):
kids, man, I don't, it's dicey. I'm going to keep it 1000%.
Like we, we are moving our youngest to pull ups and I'm
like, how much are pull ups? And they're more expensive than
actual diapers. And I'm like, no.
And then we had to start like webought ALDI.

(41:44):
Don't. OK, no offense to ALDI.
ALDI has a lot of great things. But y'all's diapers are ass
cheeks, Literally ass cheeks. Our youngest pee through like 9
of them in a row just hanging out.
So I'm like, don't do ALDI, but but yeah, man, kids, if you got
kids out there. Hey, if you.
Got kids, man get some more arthritis.
We need y'all to age a little sooner.

(42:06):
That's what kids do, man. I feel they're I'm I'm in my
early 30s and like, I sometimes feel old, like I feel old just
like walking around. Like especially like these kids
be in the neighborhood, like my little girls will say hi to
them. And these girls probably like
8-9 seven, you know, young girlselementary age.

(42:28):
And like I'm looking at my kids and I'm like, my kids will be
this age and like no time. So it's like, man, it's like
ages, ages hidden. But I appreciate that, Aaron BJ
says I already got authorized. Good.
Now use your middle finger, thenthis one in the pinky Lorraine
finger. If you got to tap that screen

(42:50):
with your toes, do it, but don'tmake sure you don't make sure
you, you know, clean it off because I know some of y'all be
be nasty like that. Ashley Francisco says what
yelled at you under the bridge? That sounds crazy interesting.
Well, I'll tell it now. I'll tell you the story now.

(43:11):
It's a very long story, but I'm going to keep it.
It's going to keep it like high points.
The full, the full entire story,I believe, is on the podcast on
YouTube, Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts.
That full story would be under YT stories, which is Yehola
Tiger stories, which Yehola is my my name.

(43:31):
I don't know if I've ever said that.
I mean, I, it's always on the podcast, but you Hola's, it'll
be your Hola's stories. And so those are my stories that
I've experienced. I have Part 1, Part 2, Part 3.
And then I have a compilation where you can listen to all.
It's like 3 hours long, I believe.
But we, we went out there one night and we were in my buddy's

(43:56):
car. Damn, we were squeezed up in
there. So there was myself, two big
boys. They're like 6/6, £350 plus and
then somebody in front see another.
There was, we were crammed in there.
I can't remember exactly how many people wonder, but we were
crammed in there. Like I never, never feel so

(44:16):
squished in my life. So this story has another story
attached to it because back in the day when my grandpa was
going to NSU, he would go out there.
But you know, when he was in college and mess with a bunch of
non-native guys, he'd be, you know, mess around with him, see
if he can get things to come outand he who did whatnot and the

(44:45):
store, how the story goes, he hooted and then they a bunch of
them started hooting back at himand he was like in like earlier
all they got out of there because like you're not supposed
to hoot at night. Like that's not something you're
supposed to be doing. And so we were out there and I,
we were leaving, we're getting ready to leave and a lot of
weird stuff happens when we weregetting out of there And right

(45:06):
where the bridge, you know, you get onto the mainland and then
as you go up to the parking lot,it's a straight line with the
railing towards the wooded side that you have the playground
side. Well, it's a straight shot up to
the to the playground or to the parking lot.
So I said, Hey, let me hoot realquick and see if we can see
something before we go. And I knew in my head I probably

(45:28):
should not have done this and I knew I should.
I actually, you know, I knew I shouldn't have done this.
So I hooted. I go, who in the first one?
And everybody kind of looked at each other and they're, they're
like, all right, let's like theywere like, no, because I've told
the story to them about the hooting and all right, no, no,
no, let's let's go. I said, now let's go one more

(45:50):
time. I'm, you know, being a menace
and I hoot again. Everybody kind of look at each
other. And then I was like, I'm gonna
hoot 1/3 time because third time, you know, you third time's
the charms with my thought. My, my mind's gone and I hoot
again. And this is where it gets fuzzy

(46:11):
for me because I don't remember what it was in terms of like the
actual like full screen. It was like my mind went into
like predator prey mine like I froze in my mind.
Now, I don't know if I did physically because I mean, I

(46:32):
anyways, I that third time I I hooted, something came out from
under that bridge and. Roared and it was like I.
Heard and then I, I remember coming back in my mind in the
car and we're halfway to Muskogee and they were telling

(46:58):
me I'm like, I come back into mymind and I'm in the car.
I'm squished up with these dudesand I don't really remember
much. And I like when I started
coming, coming through, they were like, you know, we heard
that roar or whatever that was. The two big boys were in it were

(47:19):
in the front with me like we were basically in the back of
the the path going towards the but we were the closest to the
bridge. Then my buddy and I can't
remember if it was someone else,some other people were behind us
when we heard that rule, when they heard that roar, those two
big boys were the first two to the car.
They took off gone and they saidthey I don't know.

(47:43):
I can't remember if they said they had to grab me or pull me
or if I went, you know, with them.
But like, I just remember wakinglike coming back into my mind
halfway to Muskogee and then telling me about them big boys
being the first of the car took off.
Now I went to my uncle and I said, well, I said I had this,

(48:04):
you know, I told my grandpa too,but he kind of he kind of judged
me a little bit. But it's all right.
But I shouldn't have done that. But he said he's sometimes those
things take your mind. I said, what do you mean?
He said whatever it was, took your mind for a minute and he's
like, he's like, sometimes you just don't come back, you know,
you just ain't right after. So I'm right, I guess.
Maybe I don't know but. You be the.

(48:26):
Judge of that if I'm right, no, but but yeah, that's that's why
I stopped ghost hunting. I didn't go ghost hunting after
that. Hit that like screen if you like
that story or hit that bit that screen.
Get arthritis on that story. Is that Aaron Springborn in my

(48:52):
chat? I think that is I I said your
government name on here, bro. All right.
Jessica Hooper's Fowler says wait until you have grandkids.
My kids are 27 and 20. My grandson, though, Different.

(49:14):
Yeah. No, I don't.
I don't even want to. Let's not even talk about
grandkids on me. I ain't even trying to hear
that. I'm not in no way trying to hear
nothing about my little girls having grandkids.
Like I'm not going to be that dad.
That's going to be like no boys in the hat.
Like I want them to have, you know, relationships with
everybody. Not OK, Relationships in terms
of like friends, OK. Anyways, I'm I don't know what

(49:39):
OK, ignore that part. But I I just don't even think
about like I see my 2 little, my2 little girls who are both
under the age of three, well under the age of four,
technically about to be it's about birthday coming up.

(49:59):
But like, I just see them as that.
Like I don't, I can in my mind see what they're going to look
like when they're 20 and it frightens the, the piss out of
me. I ain't even going to lie.
Yeah, that night was yo, that night was terrifying, bro.
Like I I still to this day can'tlike I remember asking you.
I was like, dude, I don't even remember like the after effects

(50:22):
and I can't remember you or Schaefer or Rowan were the ones
that snapped me out of it. I can't, I don't just don't
remember after that. I mean, I hope you're doing all
right, man. I ain't heard from you in
forever. I disappear like that man.
I like, I'm not even on Facebook, not even on Instagram.
I'm barely on XI just scroll. So I'm, I'm a recluse now.

(50:44):
I guess I'm one of those. That's one thing too about me.
And he can attest to this. I'll be taking steps, setbacks.
Like I ain't even mad at nobody.I'm not even really just I'm
just existing in the ether and I'm like doing my thing.
I'm doing this, doing it. Like it's just crazy.
It's crazy out here. But yeah, hit that, hit the, hit

(51:06):
the screen, man. If you like them stories.
Anybody got any other topics youwant to talk about?
You know anybody got any other? Oh and Aaron, is my place still
good? That's another thing I'll need
to ask. Is it still good?
Because I ain't had it in a while man, I've been in Muskogee
in forever forever ever forever ever.

(51:30):
But let's see here. Any other topics we hitting
close to an hour. I'll keep going if y'all got if
y'all got y'all got topics you don't want to talk about.
I'll I got to pick these kids upin a little bit.
I but let me know if you got anytopics.

(51:53):
And Aaron, I appreciate the gift.
I think it's a gift. I can't man.
I this is one thing. I'm I'm like a oh, I'm like a
boomer when it comes to this TikTok live.
I feel like I just be a just be boomer in it up in here.
Who what, what is this? But whoever a everyone who's
gifted man, I appreciate it if you have, I literally cannot see

(52:14):
it just says gift or badge, which I don't understand what
that means. But I got a few of people in
there. Windmill Road near Anadarko.
You know what's crazy? I have never heard.
I haven't as much. There's a few guys I follow on
here who are from Darko and like, I just have never, I
haven't heard any stories from Darko.

(52:35):
I need to have those guys on there.
What's the Dang name of their podcast?
I'm going to forget it. I literally just forgot it.
I just I had in my mind they're probably they're they're
probably in here. But but yeah, man, I have never
heard like out of all of the stories like I've heard I got

(52:57):
Pawnee hominy out of north. You got a bunch Kenwood, a
Stilwell 10 killer area, Keys, Cookson Hills area, Tahlequah,
obviously for Gibson, which Speaking of for Gibson and then
the the baby graves that a lot of people reaching out about the

(53:18):
baby grave for the the what you call it.
It's crazy, man. Like it's I just, I, we went out
there, my junior, sophomore, junior, senior and the teacher
told me about this place, said that there was possible some

(53:39):
devil worshipping down there. And I haven't really gotten into
that because it's such a long freaking story.
And I always get hammered in thecomments.
Couple of y'all be like, Nah, man, your stories are too long.
Get to the point. It's like, do you want the setup
or do you just want me to tell astory?
And then you are going to come in my comments and be like,
well, what do you mean this happened?

(54:00):
Where did this go? And I'm just going to be like,
if I had just set it up for you guys, if I just set the story
up, everything would have been fine.
But we're not. So, but we went down there like
multiple times every Friday night after a football game, we
go down there. And one of the weirdest one

(54:22):
times we went down there was, I think that's never mind.
But one of the times we went down there, This is in Fort
Gibson across the, this is the road across the street from the
casino next to the power plant OG and E.
And there's a road that goes back there.
And we used to call that place Little Mexico, which I think all

(54:42):
the Hispanic people lived out there out that way.
I didn't name it that. That's just what everyone else
named it. And I just happened to, that's
the only way I know how to describe it.
I know all the Hispanic people went to high school with lived
out that way. But we would see all these dogs
and I hadn't even told this story, which I don't know why,
but I just haven't. But we were down there messing

(55:04):
around and one night and we had started a fire and all of a
sudden we had realized that we could hear movement in the
trees, like in the surrounding woods around this kind of this
little lagoon reservoir type that keeps like the the flow
basically of the river. And we're all just hanging out

(55:26):
also. And we hear something crashing
through the woods, like going crazy through the woods.
I have never started up my old Chevy so freaking fast, man.
I was out of there. We was all out of there.
So then during the day we come back just to see what that was.
See what? And it was a mess back there.
But as we're looking back there,we could see that there are

(55:47):
hundreds, if not thousands of dog bones, like hundreds of or
thousands. Like there were so many.
And like on my YouTube, it's like one of my first ever
videos, I did like a little likea little montage of all of these
dog bones that we found. One of them was like kind of

(56:08):
more recent than the others, butwe were thought, OK, so that
literally peaked in our mind. OK, we need all right, there's
there actually is devil worshippers out here and there's
they're killing these dogs. Now, the weirdest part of this
whole thing. And then with the one of the
last times we started, we stopped going out there was we
went to the house. There's a house, I don't want to

(56:31):
get the location where there's ahouse on that road and it's not
easily accessible like to see into it.
But there was some things going on and we saw symbols on the on
certain things back there. So we don't know if that's where
they meet, but but I don't know if there if y'all have heard
anything about Fort Gibson having devil worshippers, let me

(56:51):
know. I honestly think it's the
Masons, but whatever. Anybody else got any comments,
questions, topics you want to talk about, conspiracies and if
you want a book rec recommendation, if you want a
movie recommendation, put in thecomments.

(57:13):
I got a few of those. I've been reading.
I've been reading as of late. I've been watching as of late.
I've been creeping as of late. No, I'm just kidding on the
creeping part. But 1000 likes y'all.
Like I said, I want you guys to have arthritis in your entire
hand, not just your pointer finger, not your pinky middle
finger, ring finger. I want y'all to have straight up

(57:36):
arthritis where you can't even like back in the old school days
when you actually had to write your stuff and then you got in
trouble and you had to write full paragraphs.
That's what I want from y'all. Maddie, what's going on?
Cuz any Halloween special, therewill be a Halloween special this
year on the podcast. This will be the third year I do

(57:58):
it. I will be trying to get a hold
of some people to have them on the podcast.
Last year I had Rod from Lodge Tales the year or I'm sorry,
Miss Rodriguez from the originalGhost Stories from the Rez on
Facebook that she's a Facebook group.

(58:20):
And then I had Donno from Rez scares.
So if you haven't, I have some people always ask me, who do you
listen to? I listen to those people.
Besides for Miss Rodriguez, she doesn't have a podcast, but but
she has a Facebook group, the Yazzy brothers from Don't

(58:41):
Whistle at night or don't whistle the yeah, they don't
whistle at night podcast. They're they're Navajo.
Let's see here Skull crawlers, Ibelieve Kiowa correct me if I'm
wrong. I think he's Kiowa or one of
those western or one of those either plains tribe or West
tribe. But they just dropped a story

(59:01):
with a Cherokee guy I believe tomy knowledge.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
I may do a collab. I definitely am going to work on
maybe for the 100th episode doing call in on YouTube.
So based, I'll send like I'll put the link out and you guys
will be able to join and tell your stories live on the
podcast. Miss White Bird, Abji know her

(59:25):
Miss Rebecca. I'm going to have her on the
podcast again. She says she's going to reach
out. There's a few podcasts that have
asked me to come on and do their, you know, to do their
shows and I didn't really have the greatest experience with the
last one. I did.
I thought it was a little like Idon't know, I just don't really
want to poop on them but or dropdeuce on their head, but like I

(59:49):
don't know. I just it is I just kind of will
get away from unless I know the people which that are on it,
like all of them. But Halloween special.
I will be doing that man. There's one story that I need.
I'm trying to get out of Donna from red scares.
He's from Canada. He saw this being follow him

(01:00:09):
home one night and it he's scared.
He gets scared telling it. But he had some other things
going on and he's going to wait to release until he thinks it's
all done. So man, basically some entity or
being followed him home one night when he was hanging out
with some friends and I guess the roads up up there in Canada

(01:00:30):
are a little dark at night and followed him home and he was on
my on one of my episodes talkingabout AI was Thai snake is
another one that I love. That's one of the that's
probably what I'm most scared of, honestly, in the river and
lakes and different places. But he was telling me a story
that there's their medicine people or some medicine people

(01:00:53):
out there that that use like passerbyers, like people,
tourist people or to lure peopleout to bring the snake out.
So the snake will come and give them their medicine.
There's another story that I have about Thai snake that I'm,
I've been so kind of hesitant totell.

(01:01:14):
I may have to do that on YouTube.
It's about these elders back in 60s singing these songs to these
snakes and getting them to come out.
You know, the turtle, the, there's, there's a turtle shell
one about Thai snakes. So there's all these different
stories that I have or that I'veshared or, you know, it's just

(01:01:37):
so much content, so much so manystories.
Like there's sometimes people ask me, how do you not run out
of storage? It's because like my is
existence is hearing stories like I that's one thing I enjoy.
Like I get bored of a lot of stuff, like I get bored of a lot
of situations, but I just I store.
I can hear stories all day. And I apologize to anyone if you

(01:02:01):
if it feels like I don't seem like I'm reacting to your
stories or if I'm if you think I'm just passing your story by.
Sometimes I forget to hit the like button, but I read
everything when it comes to stories.
And if you send me a message, sometimes, like I said,
sometimes I guess like my TikTokhas gotten so many notifications
or sometimes I just turn it off.A lot of you, I just turn it off

(01:02:25):
is like, I didn't realize this is what this was going to be
really honest. I thought it was going to be
like a steady, gradual, you know, kind of community
building, but I've got people from all over the place
following me. So it's, it's hard to keep up.
Moon Goon, what's going on with your brother?
Have a that's my damn. We find out we was cousins on

(01:02:46):
the on my, my grandma Scott's side.
I think is, I think is what it'sI think is what we found out.
I got all, I got all the family over here, all cousins in here.
Dang, all 5, all 5-6 listeners. They've been in and out, man.
It's all been cousins and then Rebecca and that's it.
No, I'm skin but have a special and you follow so I can drive

(01:03:09):
down from the city to get some Charlie's chicken Man.
That's one thing that I haven't said this publicly, but I'll say
it here because whatever I have a hard time going down to you
follow. For me, I only go down there to
see my grandpa and my head. I have family members who asking
me to come down and do the spelling bee and I just can't.

(01:03:33):
That's one thing about like grief and and death.
You know, it just it just never like it just never leaves.
It's like, it's something that like like one of the last times
that we hung out, like we be my dad and I think my brother, we
hung out with my grandpa all dayand he took us to all of our

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real, our ancestors where they're buried.
And you know, it's a lot of places that he, well, he, he
would just point out this is where he told story.
Dang, he got drunk one night andthey couldn't arrest him because
I guess the jail was full and itwas like some old, it was back
in the day or something. But getting arrested and you
know, being out in Dustin and you know, places like that

(01:04:17):
Hannah Golly, Oh, I got a crazy story about Hannah that was told
as a storytelling, but I just have a hard time going.
I, I kind of, I went one last time in 2022 to my family
storytelling, but I don't know if I'll be back.
I'll be honest with you. I just, I have family in
Checotah and I go there still, but I have a hard time going

(01:04:38):
there too, because as you get older, you people start dying
and you start kind of missing people and it just just gets,
for me, it gets harder. I, I, I like to romanticize the
old days in a, in a way. And you know, so maybe I may, I
may show up to the, the storytelling this year.
I don't know. I I really truly don't know

(01:04:59):
Danny FM reunion or some that's for real, though, God, y'all
y'all in here if you shine Arapaho, we might be if you AI
want to say my Cheyenne Arapaho side is their last name is
Sheridan. I think I don't know because I
know my Kyle was a family is 2 hatchets.

(01:05:20):
That's where they that's that's them.
And then I got some Kali Kiowa colleagues family name.
I don't know, I I haven't reallylearned much about my shine repo
side. I just I think it's because you
know, you got to be 2525% or quarter to be in that.
My dad, my grandma was the last one.

(01:05:41):
My grandma, Grandma Sheridan, her dad was he was shine
Arapaho, more shine Arapaho. He was half, but you may know
that name. Sheridan.
But yeah, I'm A and I got what am I like German, a little bit
of German. I don't know what else I am, but

(01:06:05):
I'm all types of things. I guess I always said I'm Heinz
57. I'm Heinz 57.
I don't know what what I am. I go to you follow once a year
at Thanksgiving and that's it. Not a lot of cousins.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, it's as I said, it's just

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hard, man. He like because the storytelling
event what we went to every year, some of those stories like
it like those are some old stories and people like this
crazy too, because like I'll tell some of them on my podcast
and people are like, Dang, I heard that story and forever my
grandma told that story and it'slike, how do you know that
story? I'm like because I listened like

(01:06:49):
I am actively listening to theseelders and in the in the you
follow Canadian tribal town storytellings and events.
Like we went to a lot of those events with hay rides, you know,
talking about, you know, ceremonial grounds, because like
my family is is weird because like you hold a senior, which is
my which is my great grandpa past younger.

(01:07:13):
He I didn't ever I don't think Iever met him.
I think he died when my dad was born maybe or might have been
right before or after I was born.
I can't remember the story. I have to ask but but he
believed he, he practiced, he, he knew those things.
They always just say he when he needed some money to get to get
his, his treats is what we call it, what I call it.

(01:07:35):
But his, you know, he, he go outand he'd do something and he'd
always come back with a little bit of money.
So it's like he they knew things.
And when he passed, he passed well before my, my great
grandma, Grandma Tiger, she she said she'd see him.
He's like, come on down to the mythology.
Because that's what the name of the grounds back then back, way

(01:07:57):
back in the day, They're not, they're overgrown.
And I think we looked on Google Earth.
And it's weird too, because you can see where like you like the
grounds were and like the trees are growing up around it.
So it's kind of weird. But but but Ufology is where my
family, my my my ceremonial side, but my family split

(01:08:18):
basically, you know, my my greatgrandpa was he believed in the
ground. That's what he went.
And then my grandma Tiger was she was church.
So you know, family, you know you do different things, but
damn giving you a life story right now, Daniel, y'all know
some y'all know details about mey'all, but still my Social
Security number do me crazy likethat.

(01:08:42):
Rebecca says 1/8 to be in. Yeah, I'm not well, I'm like one
thing I'm 116th China Rapo. So like I'm out.
But my dad, my dad, I'm had to tell him that because like his
card is all jacked up, like his card is way messed up.
So I don't even know his is. Luckily mine has mine has creaky
Cherokee on it for sure my card.But that's crazy.

(01:09:06):
It's like we got to be card carrying members, man, It's
crazy. That's another thing too.
It's like government. I'm just I'm disillusioned with
it, man. I just I don't believe in it.
Like if you don't, if you can't just come out and be
unpolitical, correct. Or talking a language that's
doublespeak. I just, I have a hard time with
it. I have a hard time listening to

(01:09:26):
people that that talk like that be like, Oh no, I love these
people. But then like not doing that
over here. Yeah, it's whatever.
But anything else, y'all any other man, those storytelling
events and you follow are shoot every times.
One time we was out there, it was getting real late.

(01:09:47):
I remember we were out there waytoo late one night.
I was a little kid but it sound like something was traveling
through the like a Bigfoot or some was running through the the
woods behind us. Another time I think I had an
uncle was out there looking he could hear something messing
with him when he was out kind ofoff to the front side of the

(01:10:08):
property. I told a story last time about
the dog with a silver 2 or gold tooth.
I have to tell that I have to post that as a story.
That's a that's a pretty good story.
That's one of my favorite stories over there, but.
The. Spook lights out there and you
follow to they got one out there, but honeycomb bluff.

(01:10:32):
There's there's people that livethere now that live at the basin
of it, and I don't know how. I truly don't know how, because
that place is creepy. I'm talking about creepy.
You won't ever catch me dead outthere, my grand.
So when we were I'll tell this alittle bit.
I don't want to. I haven't told it on the
podcast. So I almost save it for the full

(01:10:53):
version on the podcast. But we y'all ever heard of a
glimmer man? Let me know if you've heard of a
glimmer man, Kind of a look likepredator, like the predator
from, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger movie.
But they saw it. They he saw one my grandpa, my
dad, I think my 2 aunts, my aunt, one of my uncles, and I

(01:11:18):
was right in front of them. And I remember hearing the
noise. It was like a cracking sound
when it like moved like when it was moving, but I, I didn't see
nothing. But they saw it and they saw
something that looked like a Dang reptile.
I don't know. I had to ask my I'll have to
have my dad record that because I can't tell it right.
So I ain't going to tell it here, but I'll get the full

(01:11:38):
story. Maybe I had to interview my dad
about it. But but my dad is my dad is
that's where I kind of get my creepy from.
Is my dad, is he he's a he. This fool will be walking home
Tahlequah from his job, be walking home and go to like the

(01:11:59):
darkest route, like no lights, no houses, and he goes back Rd.
If y'all remember where I think it's not Ace Hardware, it's over
there, like off the main drag where you're you're going
through that main light off. That's not Downing, but it's a
there's a hotel on the right. There's a research in the
Walmart. You hit that light, you take a

(01:12:20):
right and the first right. Once you kind of pass the hotel,
there used to be an old back in the day, there used to be an old
Italian restaurant there and my dad would get off work on I
think I'm Muskogee. I think one of those streets and
kind of like you're headed into downtown would walk all the way
from there, go by that Italian restaurant up into those the
kind of wooded area and walk home.

(01:12:43):
He said one night he was walkinghome and he said he swear he
thought he heard a wolf kind of off to his backs, corn like
behind him. And he would like he like turn
and there was nothing there. But he thinks it was there to
protect him. You know, I think that's what he
was telling me. But and then one time he saw
somebody walking in the oppositedirection going into the

(01:13:05):
darkness because like when you come out, you come out there by
the Heritage Center in Park Hill, like you're headed like
that's where the road comes out as the heritage center in
Tahlequah. And he was walking there.
He said the ages was walking andthey both the guys kind of like
him and his guy looked at each other and making sure each other
was real. Like he wouldn't see in like a
ghost or something or a shapeshifter skilly or whatever.

(01:13:28):
But but though yeah, my yeah, it's just where I get my spooky
from is my dad. But but anybody else got topics
hit that I see. You know, listen man, I want to
try to get these lights up to 5Kfor our get offer.
That's kind of my goal. Get 5K.
Yeah, we get to 5K. I'll tell y'all, I'll tell y'all

(01:13:49):
a good story. Leave you I'll leave you off
scared at night. But but any other topics y'all
want to hear? I'm just I'm just curious of
what topics because I'm trying to I'm trying to go as long as I
possibly can because I like I like doing this.

(01:14:09):
I might have to start doing thisin the night time at dark.
You start getting all real scared.
Start telling them there start telling them demon stories get
you all spooked out out there. I got a few demon stories.
What's going on? Daughter of the alligator clan.
Yeah, you be always be tagging me.

(01:14:29):
So I appreciate you. All right, Rebecca, thank you
for for hopping in here and, youknow, get in my mind.
I'm glad that you, I I'm glad you reached out.
I I felt bad when I got off Facebook and Instagram.
I said, Dang, I lost a few contacts.
I'm glad you reached out. You know what?
Let's see here. Maybe.

(01:14:50):
Yeah, I know that that's you. I know who maybe is.
Yep. She's always, I appreciate you
always supporting my podcast and, you know, tagging me and
stuff. And I appreciate that our woman,
I hadn't heard much about her asmuch.
I'm trying to think so owls I had so I had heard my my mom

(01:15:18):
actually told her saw something.My mom was always getting
attacked by birds. It's crazy, like I'm being a
kid. We was driving around Tahlequah.
We was kind of coming off where the casino is now, big casino as
you come into town. And then she had the window like
down because as we had no AC. All of a sudden this bird comes
in the day, the driver's side, she's screaming, swerving all

(01:15:42):
over the place. Always.
Something kind of happened afterthat too, but but she saw almost
like a three foot, 4 foot tall owl in the middle of the road
one night. I think we had a relative pass
after that too. I think it was my great aunt.
I think she passed away. That's what they they're
messengers, man, I, I, I'm scared of them.

(01:16:05):
I'll tell you one night in this house, we were all kind of I was
kind of wrapping up, going to bed and I look out and there's
an owl sitting on our fence. Boy, open that door so Dang
fast. I say get your ass out of here.
Go. I was like, get on out here and
it just sat there. I had to keep doing.
I was act like I was going to walk out there and it finally

(01:16:28):
took off, but I can't remember what happened after that too.
I don't know. That just happened probably six
months ago. So but they're always they're
always out there, but got to support my bro.
I appreciate it. You know, I I know you, you be
you and Mr. Gertie. There's another guy named Gertie
who's he be screaming from the rooftops of my podcast.

(01:16:50):
You don't see a lot of podcasts that are actual just a person
from where we where we're from. You got a few of them, but you
don't have no, you know, different podcasts from this
area that, you know, was in the mud with everybody who's in here
greasing it out in here just being greasy like that.

(01:17:11):
I had my greasy days. So I'm greasy right now.
But one thing too, you know, it's just all these different
types of beans and, and I, I wasgoing to say this when I talked
about owls. Is.
To me, what's creepy about them just as a animal is that they

(01:17:33):
can turn her head 360. That's just that's I saw it do
it on a natural geographic show.I said turn it off.
I'm out of here. Y'all Olga Pogo?
I haven't heard much about that.I know, I know that people say
that they see that and you follow like people see like a

(01:17:56):
serpent type thing, but I think that's a tie snake.
I know people say they see red octopuses in in Eufaula.
Like I had a relative see one goacross the the highway.
He's like trying to run it over.He's like, but you know, they

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but that's one thing too about octopuses that nobody really
talks about in certain terms of their anatomy.
They're not from like they they can't, they're not linked to
anything. So like, you know how people
say, Oh, well, you know, alligators are linked to birds
back forever ago with with octopuses.
They're not related to anything.They're just its own thing.
And they call it the true alien of our world is like there's so

(01:18:40):
much that we don't understand about them either to like
they're just their own thing. So I don't know, maybe they
might be might be something something greasy like that.
But yeah, they they often, oftentimes when it comes to, you

(01:19:01):
know, different animals, I'm like a weirdo.
Like I'll look up. Like, I hate that.
I hate how they just breeze pastthe direwolves are brought back.
Like we just, that was like a one day thing and it's gone.
Because like, to me, that is that's Jurassic World, man.
We're like that's we're getting to a point where like we're

(01:19:22):
starting to mess with nature toomuch like we're we're dilly
dallying on nature way, way too much.
Another animal to try to bring at the woolly mammoth because
they think that they'll that'll change the atmosphere or the the
climate of of Siberia, which it might they always share.

(01:19:43):
They always say that that it might like the terraforming
naturally instead of like man made.
But I've been, you know, thinking a lot about especially
these data centers that are going out and there's one if
you're in Oklahoma or if you're in the Tulsa County area.

(01:20:07):
I'm never one because I know thecommit the two.
I know two of those commissioners pretty well.
I've worked under them and some form or fashion and I've I got
to know one of them very well and what he likes to do.
They pat they rezone an area north of Tulsa near Owosso and

(01:20:28):
they're trying to put a data center in there for I think
Google or meta. And people don't realize, I
think, I think we as a species, as a human race or, you know,
we, we think we're the most superior thing.
And I watched the the Netflix document or the the Hulu

(01:20:50):
documentary over hurricane Hurricane Katrina.
And we have done everything we can to try to terraform New
Orleans. As a species.
And one thing that I just don't think people realize and
understand, especially about nature, nature's a real thing.
Like nature's a, an entity. It's a being that people say

(01:21:11):
Mother Nature, but like, it's a real thing.
And like, I, I'm, what I'm worried to see is what's going
to happen. Does that mean more tornadoes?
Because I, I'm, what I'm worriedto see is what's going to
happen. Does that mean more tornadoes?
Because like we've seen when these ancient beings are
disrupted and that's what I'm worried about.

(01:21:34):
Like I'm currently in the process.
I've written my first, I'm my first draft of my first book in
my, my book is kind of about this.
When we awaken things that we'renot supposed to be awakening.
And so, you know, that's, that'sa lot of it for me is like we,
we're doing things to our communities and we're doing

(01:21:55):
things to our resources when or monetizing everything like no
one can afford groceries. I don't, I don't know how people
can afford $400.00 groceries every two weeks.
I like we've cut down. We're now we're like, hey, this
is what we like. We we went and paid this past
Friday when I was on live and I got off 300 and something
dollars worth of groceries from two places.

(01:22:16):
And that's going to have to lastus because like it's getting to
to time where there's only so much pulling of resources that
we can do. I don't understand how some of
these people I see work at McDonald's like they're not
they're minimum wage here here in Oklahoma.
I don't know how they're gettingby.
I don't know if they're everybody's shaking up in a

(01:22:37):
three bedroom 2 bath and just making it work.
I mean, that's a lot of it rightnow, but I'm wondering if this
is just the natural order of things.
I know I'm a, like I said, I mentioned earlier, I'm, I'm
really big into reading kind of different comparisons and
history and things like that. And you know, we're hitting
about 2:50 and two 250 years as a civilization, as a, as an

(01:23:01):
empire with America and give or take, we're about at the average
now. There were some that lasted 300
years. There were some that lasted
less. But.
They say it's like a two, it's like a 300 year cycle of
basically 1 empire falling and another one rising.
And we watched all over the world.

(01:23:23):
I mean, we've seen it, Rome, theUSSR, like we have different
like comparisons that we can look at in history that oh, like
USSR didn't even last 100 years.Maybe not even that.
Maybe honestly, we're at 2:50 and like in terms of like a

(01:23:49):
continent that's still very young, but we have zapped every
bit of resource and I hate to get on my soapbox.
That's really not what my podcast is a soapboxes, but like
I just see things all the time. I'm just like, how are we just
allowing this? Like how as a as a human, like
as people in how we just gettingget let them get this shit off.

(01:24:11):
You know, I just doesn't make any sense to me.
And like one of these days it's going to and I, this is my
prediction. One of these days, people just
stop paying. What happens if people stop
paying? I can't afford that credit card
that I've maxed out trying to pay for groceries.
You know, I don't know any othertopics guys for get out of here.

(01:24:34):
I'm just over here ranting. I'm Rand and Raven.
I'm a lunatic. I'm a lunatic, crazy guy, just a
crazy guy. One of them savages people talk
about. They had somebody in my my
comments. I had to block them talking
about natives or savages. They, they, we should have
killed more of them. It's like God bless the amount
of arrogance to just come on someone's TikTok page to just go

(01:25:00):
all out. Yo, you shot from the half court
line and air ball my guy. You came on my page to get
ragged on. No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding. Anyways, let's see here.
What? Let me like so we had we had 5K.
What I say if we get the 5K, is that what I said?
I'll tell a story and get off here.
Is that what I said or did I lieto you?

(01:25:21):
I can't remember, but I appreciate y'all hitting y'all
getting arthritis now, I bet some of y'all putting y'all toes
on the screen, which, hey, that's your business.
But that's all right. Just keep tapping it.
But I've been, I've been readinga lot of books.
I just finished a book called Fiend and I cannot remember the
author's name to save my life. I'm a big supporter in

(01:25:45):
libraries, very big supporter oflibraries.
And I grew up in one of the Tahlequah Library Band.
My grandpa used to take us down there and he said all right,
boys. Go.
And me and my brother would sit there and read or we, you know,
we go through the movies and it's just brings back good
memories. But I, I read a book called

(01:26:05):
Fiend, which is a zombie apocalypse book or, or some type
of virus book where the guy is adrug addict and the only way
that you can survive in the zombie apocalypse is if you're
high on drugs. Crazy.
I was like, whoa, this is insane.
Some of the stuff they do in this book and the way it's
described about how when you're so strung out and you start

(01:26:26):
scabbing up, man, I just made meuncomfortable.
But it was an excellent read andit's called fiend.
Can't think of the author's name.
I'll I'll probably do a video onit here on here on TikTok.
I watched, I watched like I said, I watched the Katrina
documentary and that's I just don't know how man.

(01:26:46):
That's just it's still going on to this day trying to rezone
that the lower 9th Ward and but it's on Hulu.
I recommend that one. Oh my goodness, before I get off
here, Alien Earth, man, it's good.
It is so good. It is so, so good.

(01:27:09):
Like I think the director is adding to the lore and not just
continuing to recycle the same lore.
But Alien Earth is on Hulu. I'm I'm re watching the boys
right now. Trying to get caught up on that.
Man I'm a sucker for Dang near if y'all y'all watch if anyone

(01:27:29):
in here watches 90 days or 90 day fiance.
Anybody in here I'm a fool for that show.
You want to talk about seeing meget heated over relationship
qualms? I'll be going.
I'll be getting mad at that show.
They just finished up a hunt forlove on 90 Day Fiance, and man,

(01:27:52):
oh, man, the reunion is about tobe spicy.
Let's see here it comes out later today.
Yeah. I can't wait to watch it.
I am so the next episode of Alien Earth.
Gwen, hi from Tahlequah. Salute from Tahlequah.
I'm I haven't I last time I was in Tahlequah was literally a

(01:28:14):
year ago. I used to man, I I used to work
out at Marcoma all the time. Cherokee Nations recreational
center, play basketball, fight people, threaten to fight
people. Mindhunters on Netflix is not
new, but it's pretty dope. Mindhunters is great.
They're talking about trying to redo it on Disney maybe, maybe

(01:28:40):
Netflix, I can't remember. I don't know who has the IP, but
Never mind Hunters is great. I went and saw Weapons, Weapons,
Chef's Kiss. The I thought it was a virus.
I really thought it was a virus.But little do we know it was a
little old granny, old lady. But there's a lot, lot going on

(01:29:01):
with that movie. Have I seen Chernobyl Diaries?
I have not. Is that what is that on Max?
HBO Max? I guess HBO Max now, but I
haven't seen that. I think another series.
I'm I started the yogurt yogurt myrtles, myrtles, the yogurt

(01:29:22):
murders on HBO Max. I heard that's crazy.
I'm first episode in I don't really know what's going on, but
I know 3 little girls lost theirlife and then someone burned
down the yogurt shop. So that's where we're at.
Umm I like true crime, big true crime guy.

(01:29:43):
Umm 90 day fiance, anything sci-fi related.
Zombie. I love zombies, that's my
favorite, but umm I can't. I'm just trying to think what
else I've watched. Weapons was great.
Like I said, umm, I need to see together with Dave Franco.

(01:30:06):
I need to see that movie. I was going to go see it without
my wife. She damn near stroke me like
just about choke me out. They almost said stroke me out
getting dirty in here greasy. I'm trying to think of what
else? Oh, 28 years later chef's kiss.

(01:30:26):
I I thought about doing a full breakdown, but I just saw two
minutes discourse. I was like, well, people are
getting are not, they don't understand and never I feel like
they've never seen the 1st 2 movies.
The 28 years later expanded so much in terms of the story and
the lore behind the zombies. Because we're starting to
realize it's not the world. It's just this section of, you

(01:30:51):
know, of Europe, even encompasses a little bit of
Ireland. But one thing I love is that,
yeah, it's been 20 years. I would expect people with the
rage virus who are not zombies, they're not dead, they're actual
humans and they're infected to continue to live with this crazy

(01:31:12):
mind virus and like still be able to reproduce, still be able
to do these things because like with anything, you you start to
evolve and like there is some intelligence there.
Like he even knew where they were under the bunker.
So I love that movie. I cannot wait till her for bone
temple in January. I'm so excited for that and I

(01:31:35):
and I'm hoping that they get funding for a third one because
I just can't get enough of that man that that's just it's just a
great story. Common side effects used to be
on Hulu, but I can't see it now because some changes in sub man
yeah, streaming is streaming. I don't know what they're doing.

(01:31:55):
There's overcharging like crazy.Like overcharging like where we
canceled, we canceled Disney andthen Disney brought out of today
you can come back for 299. So we came back for 299.
I'm about to cancel that mug again and get 299.
We canceled we didn't have Netflix for like 4 months
because there's just nothing. And then I'm a big WWE guy.

(01:32:17):
I love watching Raw. I love watching all the pay per
views. So like I had to have Netflix,
but you have to have the Netflix.
It's not the base to watch raw, which is the craziest thing.
And then you have to have premium plus to watch pay per
views. So it's just a mess.
It's a mess and a half. Let's see here then.

(01:32:40):
I've already answered this question, but where you want
spirit artist podcast with Kristal and Russell?
Yes, yes, yes, I should just putthat like, yeah, you're like the
third person that's asked. It's all right, though.
Yeah, no, we just I just I movedOklahoma City and just, you

(01:33:00):
know, I couldn't make could makepodcast shows.
And then now with two daughters,I just have no time to set out a
full day to record. And it's just the way it is.
I started my own. I had my own podcast and it's
been doing pretty, pretty solid.I, I one thing I like about my

(01:33:22):
podcast, it's a little bit different.
There's this kind of sticks to acertain type of frame native
culture and things like that. I like, I'm talking about some
conspiracies, like I like conspiracies.
I like pop culture. I think having a voice in pop
culture. There's another podcast I want
you to listen to is the Magnus podcast.
Like, I want, like, that's why Iget frustrated when I see people

(01:33:45):
talking on behalf of natives about certain things.
It's because, yeah, we can talk to, you know, like, I'm not
mute, but. But yeah, I'm just that's kind
of what my lane is, is what I like doing.
And plus, I like to just record whenever I can do it or go live

(01:34:05):
like I am now. He says, I remember you.
I know, Tyler, I hope you're doing.
Yeah, I'm doing good. I'm doing.
I'm doing pretty good. I'm glad that you can.
You can join me on this brisk and very hot Tuesday afternoon.
It's so hot. I literally got the car earlier
I had to run around and man I was freaking sweaty.

(01:34:27):
Dang you ever been so sweaty youthought you went swimming That's
crazy. This be out here swimming in
air. It's crazy swimming in air.
That's going to be a new T-shirtand by the way, I need to work
on my T-shirts too. I have red bubble.
I need to put the link to on maybe if I can find a way to put

(01:34:47):
it on TikTok, but it's redbubble.com back slash war cry
pod. You can basically go in and I
think I have two logos up. I I took a bit down a bunch of
logos because I'm like, man, I got too much stuff going on and
I have people buying stickers and stuff.
But yeah, stickers, T-shirts. Maybe I'll find AT shirt here in

(01:35:11):
a minute and show you what it looks like, but may have to may
have to show you all what it looks like here in a second.
But or maybe next time. But and I was looking around
like damn, because I wear them, I wear them.
Mine are so played out because Iwear I wear them every week.
I've had people looking at my shirts because there's one that
has like a Bigfoot scratch whereit's just like this like right
across and it has war cry pod, which I love.

(01:35:34):
That's one that's my favorite T-shirt.
And then I have one. I used to have one that was of a
werewolf, basically war cry pod and then a werewolf right here.
So it's pretty cool, but you know, I had AI had a couple
people buy hoodies and shirts when I when I used to do, I used
to plug it a lot. Now I'm just, I just get busy,
man. I forget about it sometimes.
Damn, leaving dollars on the floor.

(01:35:55):
But sometimes, you know, you just got to leave them there.
No, I'm just kidding. Tell me about it.
I'm a roofer. This heats measurement.
I don't know how you're doing it.
That's suicide man. It's brutal, but y'all be
getting it done, man. Shout out to y'all.
Shout out to the roofers out there.
I know y'all y'all out there doing your staying all right

(01:36:18):
y'all last comments, last topic.You know last thing you want
want me to talk about any questions you need to put them
in right now, because I'm going to get off here here in a little
bit like soon now, but I appreciate people.

(01:36:38):
You know, I like TikTok because like on YouTube, I can hardly
see the comments. Like there's sometimes I'll see
them, but I get so locked into my guest or my, my live that I
just don't even pay attention tothe comments sometimes.
And I feel bad because I don't want people thinking I'm uppity
because I'm, I'm not. Have you heard the nurse talking

(01:36:59):
about? Yeah, I think I have heard that
actually. And she's the one that has the
patients that were basically outin the middle of nowhere.
Like she's like a home health nurse.
I think. So I haven't heard any of the
stories I've seen. I listened to the first part of
her story, but like a lot of my like a lot of things I mentioned

(01:37:19):
before, like my phone has been my TikTok has been notifications
have been outrageous. So like I'd literally see and
I'm like, I start getting this social anxiety in my all right,
man, I need to put it down. Need to go touch some grass.
So I just touched the grass for a minute and walk back in after
hearing the the fly stories unwell by flies in my house.

(01:37:42):
Yeah, I ain't a lie, man. Flies beyond one.
One thing too about flies, all right?
I'm stupid. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm y'all know
this. Y'all probably know this way.
I'm just some stupid guy. But why are flies creating

(01:38:02):
maggots in my in my trash? Why?
I don't want to look in the trash and see that mess.
I don't want to see that becauseyou're making me have to put
gloves on. I am.
I am like I got a phobia for maggots and poop, dog poop and

(01:38:25):
cat poop. I can't do it.
I'm sorry y'all I just can't do it.
My my wife brought all these animals into our home and I I
just can't do it. But maggots is one thing that I
absolutely cannot do because when I see a maggot, I
immediately think that that might be in my my food when I
order from from like Wendy's or somewhere.

(01:38:49):
I don't want to see that. I don't want to.
I don't want to lift the trash up to take it out and look.
And there's like a million maggots.
Like, buddy, you're about to be rinsed out.
It's Tuesday. It's trash day.
You're gone. You're out of here.
Why are you being born? Keep it in anyways.

(01:39:14):
No, that's crazy. You're going to.
I don't know. I don't know.
Yeah. Good question, guy.
Yeah. Disgusting.
Bringing. Bringing.
Yeah, Aaron, I guess they do bring the maggots something.
I guess that's what it is. There's probably like a little
microscopic eggs on their feet. But yeah, flies have been

(01:39:37):
outrageous this year. And just just the heat in
general that make you. They make like, if I see someone
with asshole sweat, that's you're not cooking my food.
Like we need to get the air on. Like I know you've reached back
there. Your booty sweat is insane.
We're not doing it. Like you're not making my food.

(01:40:00):
I'm sorry. I'll go back there and make it
myself. I worked at a BBQ restaurant in
McDonald's before. So like, yeah, I can make that
for you. Oh Dang, my bad.
I was like bringing. What are you talking about?
I missed it. No dude, I don't see.
No, I don't see no comment. It says that.

(01:40:27):
Bro, I really. Don't even see a comment from
you. They did you just auto correct
yourself and comment anyways that's a boomer stuff.
All right. So they're bringing back extinct
animals? Yes, they are bringing them
back. Yo, that's the most boomer thing
to do, to be like, yo, I sent you a question, but then you

(01:40:49):
just send the auto correct to the question and not the
question, man, Bro, no, I'm just, I'm messing with you.
But yeah, I know. Say the direwolf, the elephant,
the mammoth, they're trying to do the filosene, which is the
Tasmanian tiger. I don't think those things are

(01:41:10):
extinct. I think there's some out there.
They're running around like they're still, they're still
running like through the gamut. They're trying to figure out
like, So one thing that makes menervous about that, especially
with AI, is they're figuring outwhere AI can like do little like

(01:41:32):
robots, almost like they're likenano.
It's like nanotechnology and they're able to go into
different things and collect data like that's rolling out.
And so like they're figuring outa way to where they can pull
certain DNA from existing animals and compare it to

(01:41:55):
extinct animals, but then also at the same time creating
animals who are are not extinct.They're still out there.
I don't know, because I know that there was a tiger out, I
want to say, in Madagascar that they thought was extinct and

(01:42:15):
they tried. They were like trying to figure
out a way to bring it back. And then Forrest Galante caught
a video of it just walking by ona game trip game Cam.
So they had to stop the whole process.
It's crazy, man. It's literally Jurassic World
out here. Yeah, you're right.
Me be Yeah, that's. It's definitely Jurassic World
out here because like we're we're doing way too much like,

(01:42:38):
yeah, did we, did we put these animals extinct as a species?
Yes. But I also have a crazy
conspiracy theories about these extinct animals.
And I don't know if the world's ready for it.
I don't know if it's ready for it.
Maybe the technology already They.
Yeah. So I've heard, yeah,

(01:42:59):
withholding, withholding technology that's like 10 years
advanced. They've definitely been doing
that. But another thing that I find
OK, I'll just, I'll tell you my Antarctica conspiracy.
So I'm not a huge Mr. Beast fan,and this is crazy to even
mention him in this. But he accidentally confessed on

(01:43:24):
a live stream with Aiden Ross that Antarctica is a huge ice
wall and that they went beyond the ice wall.
He accidentally dropped that. So he was on live stream.
And the guys like, yeah, we've been to Antarctica.
It's like a big ice wall. And Mr. Beast kind of looked at
him like, bro, you're not supposed to say that.
And he's like, wasn't any like, nudge.

(01:43:44):
Do you? Like this dude was just
nonchalantly putting this out onlike a platform where, like,
hundreds of millions of kids andpeople, you know, younger than
me are watching. And he was like, yeah, like, I
don't want to. I don't want to go into that.
I 100% believe that either A they ship these animals, which

(01:44:11):
they I don't know who they is, or two these animals migrated.
But when everything, when all the land masses were connected
or C aliens did it, or, you know, D there's so many
possibles or D there is a race or being or a species of people

(01:44:32):
or someone who lives there and realizes, hey, there's a
destructive force of humans who are destroying everything.
Let's get our let's get our animals out of here because

(01:44:52):
there's a lot of like there havebeen one occasion where someone
has allegedly went beyond the ice wall and has stated that
there were megafauna. If you don't know what megafauna
is, megafauna is very large mammals, basically like
inhabitants like things like that.

(01:45:13):
Admiral Byrd, I did, I did episode on the podcast about
this like episode 6. He saw megafauna all over the.
Place once he got past that ice wall like he also claimed he
saw. Someone speaking in a language
that wasn't English and that he had to turn around because he

(01:45:34):
lost all his men. Now here's where the Flat Earth
people, they they do get me a little bit they do they they
have me in the first half and then they don't have me in the
second-half. Is our planet so big if it's a
Flat Earth, is our planet so bigthat we we have our land and

(01:46:01):
then just like another set of land that has a wall and then
there's land on the other side? Is our planet that big?
Maybe here's another thing that I I get worried about, I'm not
worried about, but I think aboutif they're coming from the inner
Earth, then yes, I think we haveenough land.

(01:46:25):
But the problem that I have withany conspiracy is that we just
don't know because they do not allow anyone to go past a
certain point. And the Flat Earth people get
me. They, they have me in the first
half. Like I said, they have me in the
first half when they start telling me that the flight

(01:46:45):
plans. So to go from like New York to
like China, they got to go South, north and then to China.
It's weird. It's weird to me, like someone
pulled up a flight plan for likesomeone to Saudi Arabia and it
was like they went the opposite direction, came South and then

(01:47:06):
went back up. Like, I don't understand it.
Now. If someone sees this and is
like, hey, I'm actually someone who flies planes, it's because
these are the nearest fueling. Stations.
All right, Cool. But that doesn't make sense to
me. Why wouldn't you just go in a
straight line? Now there is a force Galante,

(01:47:30):
which he's a very respected animal researcher and he deals
with extinct animals. There are certain animals that
live on this side of the hemisphere.
It's called the the Hamilton line.
I think it's called Hamilton. I might be wrong, but 1/2 of the
Hamilton line is a certain type of animals.

(01:47:54):
On the other half is another setof animals.
They don't cross that line and it goes all the way around,
allegedly. I don't know.
It is things that I think about on a daily basis.
So I look into it. I read, I find what is this?
What is that? It's fascinating.

(01:48:15):
I don't know. I'm not an expert in anything.
I just simply look into things and read.
That's it. But there are a lot of things in
our world that doesn't make sense and we just accept like my
theory on Friday and the Friday live stream, I literally don't
think that there's 6 billion people on this planet.
I really don't. There's no way.

(01:48:36):
There's absolutely no way because if we have 300 million
just in this country alone, I OK, this is how I worked in
federal municipality under for the census during COVID.
I'm going to, I'm going to say this.
I, there were, I had to go to, Ibasically had plot points that I

(01:49:01):
went to. And this is where I've become
disillusioned with the federal government because when I, the,
some of the places I was going to, nobody lived there, but I
had to count them because mail was being delivered there.
Now I want y'all to think about that.
I had to count as somebody livedthere just because they were

(01:49:22):
getting mail there. No one was home.
It didn't look like any signs oflife.
That's a lot of my theory too, is like, I don't I I think that
we have been conditioned to working like everyone knows 8:00

(01:49:42):
or 7:30 to 9:00 is busy. Everyone is going to work the
9:00 to 5:00 or now if you're inother service industries, no,
but a majority of those people, majority of people have those
jobs. So if we, we, we think about it,

(01:50:06):
if majority of people have thosejobs, we're going to see
everyone in that space and a small fraction of the, of the,
of the population, especially here in Tulsa, because I drive
my kids a daycare every day and it's super busy at 8:30.
It's super dead at 7:30. When I pick my kids out, which I

(01:50:31):
need to do here in the next 10 minutes, it is not busy.
But then you hit 530. Everybody in their Mama is out
after that couple 1000 here and there.
So my, that is my theory that there's not 6 billion people on
this planet. There's no way.
And there's, like I said, counting people on the census.

(01:50:54):
And I'm like, no one lives here that well, is there mail there?
Yeah, there's mail, but stacked up counting.
I also think that there's that'sconspiracy too, because if we
keep continuing adding people tothat census, that is political
power. I don't know.
I'm just a weary traveler, guys.That's it.

(01:51:16):
It's the weary traveler. Yeah, it is, Sam.
Yeah. You remember that episode?
The the Admiral Byrd. Yeah, that's a crazy.
It's interesting. It's definitely interesting that
Admiral Byrd and it just goes into a whole like long like as
you guys can tell, I went on a long ass tangent because it's I
think it's all connected. I think that they're lying to us

(01:51:38):
about how many people are here because it's scarcity mindset
and that's the the point. But then they put us, especially
here in Oklahoma, they put in your mind as a little kid,
abundance mindset, like a mud abundance preaching.
If you do this like of a higher power.
So it's like, OK, one end. They're telling us that it's

(01:51:59):
scarcity because there's so manypeople we need to, you know,
conserve our water, conserve ourenergy.
They just tell us to do these things that don't make sense.
But then the same breath, we're raised and indoctrinated in our
religions to be abundance and give back.
We have nothing. You know, I hear stories from
people all the time. Oh well, I gave this amount of

(01:52:21):
money to my church, you know, because I don't want God to to
forget about me. That's crazy to me.
We can't even afford groceries. It's all connected.
The 9 to 5 was put there for a reason.
Kids being in school for seven, six to seven to 8 hours and then
going to their sporting events. That is all conditioning us to

(01:52:45):
live this life and how do we getout of it?
You're talking to the wrong guy.Weird main paranormal.
I was just talking about your brother.
What's going on with you? I was just talking about you.
Let's see here. All right guys, one last topic.
I know man. If you guys let me know in the
comments. You guys have enjoyed this live

(01:53:06):
stream and if I should do more, it'll usually probably be later
in the day. I may try to do something at
night. I just got these kids, man be
driving me crazy at night tryingto go to bed and but let me know
one last topic and I'm going to get off here and if you enjoyed
the and the the live let's get to 10K, let's get to 10K.

(01:53:29):
Just tap the screen for me. Let's get to 10K and I'm going
to get out of here. But but yeah, man, that's just
so much. I'm such a big conspiracy guy.
I remember seeing Zeitgeist as akid being like just, I had to, I
had to know. And like, there's just a lot of
things about like, I grew up Church of Christ and I just saw

(01:53:51):
a lot of that. And I don't really want to get
into a lot of it because, you know, I don't want to disrespect
anybody's thoughts or opinions about it, but it's just, I saw
it. I'm just disillusioned by a lot
of that stuff. Dang, I'll tell you a story
about Aaron. He's in the chat right now.
So one night me and him was getting sauced up and we was it

(01:54:15):
was might have been late. We watched, I can't tell you how
many documentaries of if y'all remember during the Ebola virus
in like 2014 or what disease wasthat in that time.
But we was watching the containment videos of like
people going into these, people going into these.

(01:54:36):
This is before YouTube was like this is when YouTube was cool.
You can get these videos, but like you like people were going
in and filming these like large scale basically like burial
tombs. So like instead of just digging
a hole and putting bodies in, they dig a hole, put this in and
then put the bodies in and then cover it.

(01:54:58):
We would watch, I can't tell youhow many hours get sauced up and
watch that stuff. A lot of good times with that
guy. I appreciate him him coming by.
Let's see here, man, we're close.
Where we at 88 and a half All right, y'all keep going.
It helps. It helps you with the algos.

(01:55:20):
You know, I said I appreciate. I've had quite a few people, you
know, coming in and out in which, hey, that's fine.
I may put this on the podcast. All it was a zombie apocalypse.
That's what it was. Yeah, that's what it was.
I knew some virus that we would,that we, we were watching.
I remember because we because I know, I remember someone sending

(01:55:43):
me here a couple of months ago. We were, he sent me of the the
link to the federal zombie book,like where if the zombie
bucklers broke out, the government had a whole plan.
And it made me think about you. I was like, Dang, I was like how
we used to we used to watch all types of crazy videos or the

(01:56:06):
Illuminati ones with the Jay-Z hands.
Like when he do that Dang, oh, oh, Illuminati.
Oh, he's he's took Tiffany Ramirez says let's go.
I know that's what I'm saying. We close 9.1 man, y'all y'all, I
appreciate y'all for real, for real.
Yeah, we would do. We was watching them videos like

(01:56:26):
yeah, we probably gave. We probably gave whoever made
those shoddy documentaries like at least 1000 views because I
remember we would show everybodythose videos.
But you know what? I don't think they're, I don't
think they're wrong low key. I really don't think they're
that wrong. Just a lot of just it's like
things are coming out. Is the world going to end?
I don't know. I don't think Jesus is coming

(01:56:48):
back anytime soon. I think he already came back.
That's my opinion. The little season, look it up,
it's interesting. It just makes a lot of sense to
me until someone can prove me wrong.
But we are at 9.6, Ellen says. Your live broadcast is so cool.

(01:57:08):
Let's be friends. Appreciate you.
Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends day?
Don't even catch me on the karaoke mic on a Sunday night
9.8. But like I said, y'all, I
appreciate y'all continuing to support my podcast and just me

(01:57:30):
in general because I've always, I have always struggled with
what I want to do. Customer service facing stuff
has always been super cool to meand I've always done really
well. But you know, talking, yakking,
yapping and just, you know, having a good time and I'm good
at that too. But all right, y'all, we had 10K

(01:57:51):
salute. I appreciate y'all.
To everyone who was on the live stream commenting, I may have to
run it back again, we'll see. But I appreciate y'all and I'm
going to catch you all the next one.

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