August 10, 2025 • 13 mins
There's a hidden gem on the Outer Banks of North Carolina that the world's most discerning boat owners have discovered - Wanchese, the quiet epicenter of custom sportfish boat building. When Michael Jordan wants a tournament-ready fishing machine, this is where he comes. But why?
We're broadcasting live from the 22nd Annual Carolina Boat Builder Foundation Tournament in Manteo with Justin Montes, CEO of D'Angelo Marine Exhaust. Together, we peel back the layers on what makes Carolina sportfish boats so special, exploring the stark contrast between the hustle of Fort Lauderdale's yachting industry and the authentic, multigenerational craftsmanship found in these small coastal communities.
Justin shares fascinating insights into the engineering challenges of creating custom exhaust systems for today's powerful engines, working within tight spaces while ensuring optimal performance for vessels that operate in remote locations worldwide. We dive into the knowledge transfer challenges both our family businesses face as master craftsmen approach retirement, and the importance of mentoring the next generation. The conversation reveals how this tournament does more than celebrate beautiful boats - it funds education programs that teach middle schoolers to build skiffs, creating a pipeline of talent that sustains the region's boatbuilding heritage.
What truly stands out is the collaborative spirit among these world-class builders. Despite being competitors, they freely share best practices and support each other's success, creating an environment where "high tide raises all boats." If you're fascinated by the intersection of craftsmanship, technology, and maritime tradition, this episode offers a rare glimpse into a world where handshake deals still matter and the quality of your work speaks louder than any marketing campaign.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Season 4 of the Wardsway Podcast.
We're here, live in Manteo,north Carolina, at the 22nd
Annual Carolina Boat BuilderFoundation Tournament.
Join us as we celebrate 75years in business and we're just
(00:22):
getting started.
Welcome to Season 4 of theWard's Way Podcast.
We're here live in Manteo,north Carolina, at the 22nd
Annual Carolina Boat Buildersand I'm here with Justin Montez,
the CEO of D'Angelo MarineExhaust, and if you know, you
(00:42):
know we are in the place to bein Wanchese, north Carolina.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So I feel like this is kind of funny because you and
I we can see each other in FortLauderdale but I feel like I
see you more in, like MonacoWanchese, all over the world,
all over, yeah, so, but it'sinteresting because both of us
are Fort Lauderdale companies,family businesses, and we
understand if you know.
You know one cheese.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But why are you guys here?
What are you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We're here for this A hundred percent.
The weather, the mecca ofSportfish custom builders.
It's crazy.
Like you said, we're in FortLauderdale.
Probably everybody knows usfrom the yachts and all that
right but I'm the biz and youknow the prestige of this small
area correct.
It's just like none other.
And what?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I find so phenomenal is that we would have to go to a
very expensive event that theVIP ticket would be really hard
to get to or you would have tosponsor something.
Incredible to be around as manybuilders on the yachting side
and the principals of thosecompanies, Whereas here it is
very much family.
(01:53):
They're all family-runbusinesses, multi-generational,
which we understand, and there'sjust a welcome hospitality.
You can shake hands and sitthere as you were watching
yesterday the captain's briefingrun down and and there's three
boat builders standing next toeach other with with all their
boats in this tournament and itwas just camaraderie and man
handshake t-shirts.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You'd never know, yeah, and that it's like a
breath of fresh air when youcome here again fort lauderdale,
the hustle and bustle of theyachting industry you're always.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
We see these boats there too.
Yeah, yeah, and so that's whyyeah and the hustle and bustle.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You're always up against the deadline.
You come here and I rememberthe first time I came, yeah, and
we visited, you know bayless,and we're looking to talk to
somebody and there's johnbayless and ppe gear right going
to town and I'm like, oh mygoodness right, hey how you guys
doing you know, come in.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, exactly, exactly southern.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Southern Hospitality it is.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So.
What does D'Angelo exhaust doas part of the build?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
so we want to get involved at the beginning.
You know, with these these are,these are money making machines
here, so you can't just slap ona pipe right right we're
dealing with everything's customoh, yeah and and yeah,
everything's a custom build.
The engines now are at a levelwhere you know we've got to get
the back pressure right, we'vegot to make sure that
everything's cool.
We don't want to cook up thefiberglass, so it's an
(03:11):
engineered solution as you know100%.
And every boat is different.
Everything is custom.
You know, inches here meaneverything, so we want to get
involved Again.
The prestige of working withthese builders is just something
like.
It's like if you're in the biz,you just want it.
It's not about supplyingproduct, it's we want to build
relationships here, and theplace is great, the weather is
(03:31):
great.
I mean, we flew in and Iremember the person at the car
rental was like how are youdoing, you know?
And I was like, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I know.
Everybody's so friendly here,it's like it's almost creepy
sometimes and the first time youcome here like why is everybody
so nice?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, I know.
And then you go back and you'relike oh my God, they remember
you.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, if I haven't been here.
I try to come about two times ayear.
But in that interim I'll goback to a restaurant and they're
like oh good to see you again.
And I'm like you remember meExactly.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Dary and the Dare County Foundation.
That's what it's all aboutRaising money for these kids,
keeping it here, keep thehistory going and providing
funds for them to go to school,come back and get in the
business, and that's why you endup with product like this
Multi-generational.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Agree, they're getting kids in middle schools
building skiffs that they'reselling and auctioning off, and
the money goes directly backinto the Dare County schools.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, they're selling an auction.
They got off and the money goesdirectly back into the county
schools.
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And then they're going out and you see the young
kids and it's like they'rethey're buttoned up, man,
they're ready, so tell me, thetechnology, anything that you
have done specific I know for usfrom the electrical side, doing
the power management for asport fish that's going to
either be, you know, off thecoast here or in costa rica, or
all over in some of the mostbeautiful remote places of the
world.
(04:46):
What have you done?
What's interesting on theexhaust side?
That is not something becauseyour space is limited.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was just going to go there.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It's the space right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, real estate, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So, like Caterpillar came out with the Cat C32 with
the triple turbos, to get allthree collectors, we have to
make a custom header and avertical and a horizontal
orientation, because you may nothave room and you may not have
room.
So it's a lot of custom designs, a lot of sharp turn radiuses.
So the elbows you're using youcan't just buy them off the
shelf Of course.
(05:20):
They've got to be custommanufactured, you've got to fit
the surge tees in there, you'vegot to make sure everything and
if you're backing down a bigfish, you can't let water back
in and flood the engine.
So it's, it's a lot of thatwhich, honestly, our team and
I'm sure it's the same with you-they like that.
They want to get involved insomething complicated, you know
so to see the engineers, and andthen they get the wheels
(05:40):
turning and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's I think, what it is, I know, for for our team.
They know that this boat isbeing used in a very specific
way, which is to go offshore innot the best weather, um, in not
necessarily in some of the mostremote places, as I said before
and perform well the boat hasto perform to its peak in order
(06:05):
for them to be successful.
So I feel like it gives us, Iknow, an ultimate goal in
working to that, and I'm surethat that's the same and that
the reputation of awards Marineright.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's why you have it, it's because you're doing
jobs like that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And the same thing with D'Angelo now.
So family business, how's thatbeen going?
How long have you been CEO?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So I've been back now for four years.
So, obviously my father hasbeen the sole owner since 2004.
So you know summer jobs, Sure,my dad called it the.
Hey, you want to go to collegeor you want to do this.
He'd kind of throw me inpressing elbows and doing all
that.
I was like, yeah, I think Ineed to go to college.
And then coming back and nowback for four years, kind of
(06:43):
taking over as my dad steps down.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
It's like the greatest gift you could ever be
given, it's like a niche company.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
The d'angelo family did so.
Well, the brand is known andit's like here and I'm just like
how lucky am I?
And like trying to take it fromwhere my father came from big
business and was all about, youknow, inventory controls,
process management and all that.
And now I'm coming in and Ilike to play with robotics and
all the technology.
He's like hey, you got allthese welders, what can we do?
It's fun.
(07:12):
It's fun.
You know, out of college I wasdoing consulting and that's cool
too, but it's a job.
And here, you know, if I'm everbored in the office, I just
walk the floor and say, hey,what are you building?
Cool.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That's a turbine exhaust.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Tell me about it right.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I was like well, and I think it matters to your
company and I think it says alot too that you are here.
You didn't send yoursalesperson.
Actually, both of us are here,um, because we understand the
importance of the outer banksand the incredible amount of
talent that's in this outer bank, small roanoke island, that
people, if you, if you didn'tknow it existed, you could
(07:46):
absolutely overlook it.
But once you know, this is theepicenter of all sport fish
building in Carolina.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'll never forget.
We got invited to one of theboat launches of one of the
builders and the service managertook me on and I don't come
from boating, so I don't knownothing.
And I'm like you know, andy,tell me what's special here?
And he took me in and andshowed me the cabinetry.
He's like Justin, look at thelines.
Like you don't understand thekind of custom craftsmanship and
this is all handmade, like tothe highest tolerance.
(08:14):
I'm like, oh, and you canclearly see the difference.
And now, being around, it'slike, oh, wow, that's, that's
custom.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, I can tell you how important the cabinetry is
and how valued it is.
Is that?
Um, we have actually done panelwork where the panels yeah, you
can just redo the panels, we'llpay to have them redone, but
we're not messing with thecarpentry and it's like man.
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That that there's such high attention paid to that
level of quality is incredibleand and craftsmen and women is
nowadays like I'm having troublewith welders and fabricators.
Sure, we need to raiseawareness for that, because to
make something at this highlevel, yep, these people have
been doing it their whole lifeand agree generational.
(08:58):
Yeah, you gotta make sure thatthe next generation knows.
Like, we have very talentedmetal fabricators and I have one
that's kind of getting olderand he said justin, I got three
more years before I retire.
You got three years to takewhat's in here.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's true, I deal with the same and you do, you
want to be able to to, to takethat information because there's
so much value in it, and reallypair them with a young employee
and somebody that they could,that they can kind of mentor and
take on.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But yeah, and like over the years years, you guys
have bailed us out on a bunch ofprojects and the crew that you
have, the electricians.
I tell everybody I'm like youcan go with whoever you want,
but if you want the best, yougotta call justin, I appreciate
that you know, would hang outwith the guys here and it's like
man they, but they've beendoing this their whole life.
Agree agree and they like doingit they do and they enjoy.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, if you look and see that most people here
are here to just be a part ofthis tournament that's happening
.
Everybody knows that this isgoing to education and to
scholarships and and back intothe community and that's why
people are here.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It really is all over the world.
I mean, where does MichaelJordan go when he wants it?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I know, you know what that came up to, exactly
exactly, and he could goanywhere, yeah anywhere,
anywhere, by any company, oncebut to build a boat.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But you know what?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
He's not alone.
It's not just him, I would sayso many of these builders.
They could be building theirboats anywhere and they're
choosing to do it, and they'rechoosing to buy more than one
boat or more than two boats.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, once you're a customer, you're a customer for
life, correct?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Correct.
That's in this one small partof the United States.
It's crazy, it is, but you knowwhere we are from and also
where we visit for all othershows.
We see these boats everywhereacross the world.
For me it's really important tojust get to be a part of it and
to see them and hear that maybethey won a tournament.
Has anybody ever come to youand said you know I would have
won if it?
I'm asking the question.
We're going to interview acouple of crew like that.
(10:49):
They wish they had differently,that you know, or or that
hindered them.
Have you ever had anybody cometo you and say, man, if I had
the exhaust a little or tweakeda little?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I wish I mean you know.
A lot of times the exhaust islike an afterthought, like you
don't really think of it, butit's like those who know know.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
They know Exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And they'll come to us and be like hey, why did you
do this?
What did you think about doinglike that?
And it's like that's a greatquestion.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's true, yeah you know so much custom work.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Because these men and women know.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Exactly what they're doing, and so when they talk.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's not like your everyday customer kicking tires,
it's like really.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And we'll invite them in and say, hey, let's have a
conversation with the engineer.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Tell know I hate cold call.
I don't like selling.
I hate knocking on doors.
Tell me what do you?
Think how can I add value toyou?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
oh, that's a problem?
Hey guys, can we fix this right, and that's 100 just a funner
way to do business it is, it isand for them you know the most
successful part of this and Ikeep pointing backwards, but you
know the boats that are comingin today.
You know I was watching themand they're so excited for each
other.
But to them a successful boattrip is, you know, tight lines
and making sure everybody gotback safe and so, I think, both
(11:57):
of us play a big part in thatyeah, and that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You have all the builders here, but they all get
along.
They're all supporting eachother, they all are it's like a
beautiful thing when industrycan come together and it's like,
hey, what are the best practicehere?
What worked over here, whatdidn't?
Oh that that didn't work overthere?
That's a safety hazard.
How can we engineer that out?
It's just fun, it's just Agree,you know what I mean.
Like it can get icky, like downin Fort Lauderdale, and that's
(12:22):
great.
It's a great.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But you know, but it is nice to see and part of it
and and actually in a way, youknow, it's um.
I hate to say this, but, uh,it's kind of nice that it's
maybe only a few of us whohappen to know the secret, um,
but but we do, and the secret isgoing to get out.
And the secret is getting outthat that wanchis and and the
(12:43):
outer banks is absolutely wherea lot of this quality boat
building is so the collaboration, I mean everybody getting
together.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
When I, when I came back to d'angelo you know you
were kind of like a mentor to me, telling me where I need to be
and how I need it's.
It's that like yeah you don'tneed to tell me anything right
but the fact that you do that itjust helps everybody like that
means a lot to me obviously,thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
No, we all, we're all part of the same industry and
we all need to make each othersuccessful.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So what do they say?
Yeah, high tide raises allboats.
So well, justin.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Thank you for being here today and thank you for
being such a great partner andworking together, and I look
forward to many projects we workon in the future.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Amen, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Absolutely, thank you Appreciate it.
Thank you for joining us thisseason of the Ward's Way Podcast
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Be sure you subscribe becausethere's much more to come.
Welcome to Season 4 of the Wardsway Podcast.
We're here, live in Manteo,north Carolina, at the 22nd
Annual Carolina Boat BuilderFoundation Tournament.
Join us as we celebrate 75years in business and we're just
(00:22):
getting started.
Welcome to Season 4 of theWard's Way Podcast.
We're here live in Manteo,north Carolina, at the 22nd
Annual Carolina Boat Buildersand I'm here with Justin Montez,
the CEO of D'Angelo MarineExhaust, and if you know, you
(00:42):
know we are in the place to bein Wanchese, north Carolina.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So I feel like this is kind of funny because you and
I we can see each other in FortLauderdale but I feel like I
see you more in, like MonacoWanchese, all over the world,
all over, yeah, so, but it'sinteresting because both of us
are Fort Lauderdale companies,family businesses, and we
understand if you know.
You know one cheese.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But why are you guys here?
What are you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We're here for this A hundred percent.
The weather, the mecca ofSportfish custom builders.
It's crazy.
Like you said, we're in FortLauderdale.
Probably everybody knows usfrom the yachts and all that
right but I'm the biz and youknow the prestige of this small
area correct.
It's just like none other.
And what?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I find so phenomenal is that we would have to go to a
very expensive event that theVIP ticket would be really hard
to get to or you would have tosponsor something.
Incredible to be around as manybuilders on the yachting side
and the principals of thosecompanies, Whereas here it is
very much family.
(01:53):
They're all family-runbusinesses, multi-generational,
which we understand, and there'sjust a welcome hospitality.
You can shake hands and sitthere as you were watching
yesterday the captain's briefingrun down and and there's three
boat builders standing next toeach other with with all their
boats in this tournament and itwas just camaraderie and man
handshake t-shirts.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You'd never know, yeah, and that it's like a
breath of fresh air when youcome here again fort lauderdale,
the hustle and bustle of theyachting industry you're always.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
We see these boats there too.
Yeah, yeah, and so that's whyyeah and the hustle and bustle.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You're always up against the deadline.
You come here and I rememberthe first time I came, yeah, and
we visited, you know bayless,and we're looking to talk to
somebody and there's johnbayless and ppe gear right going
to town and I'm like, oh mygoodness right, hey how you guys
doing you know, come in.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, exactly, exactly southern.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Southern Hospitality it is.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So.
What does D'Angelo exhaust doas part of the build?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
so we want to get involved at the beginning.
You know, with these these are,these are money making machines
here, so you can't just slap ona pipe right right we're
dealing with everything's customoh, yeah and and yeah,
everything's a custom build.
The engines now are at a levelwhere you know we've got to get
the back pressure right, we'vegot to make sure that
everything's cool.
We don't want to cook up thefiberglass, so it's an
(03:11):
engineered solution as you know100%.
And every boat is different.
Everything is custom.
You know, inches here meaneverything, so we want to get
involved Again.
The prestige of working withthese builders is just something
like.
It's like if you're in the biz,you just want it.
It's not about supplyingproduct, it's we want to build
relationships here, and theplace is great, the weather is
(03:31):
great.
I mean, we flew in and Iremember the person at the car
rental was like how are youdoing, you know?
And I was like, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I know.
Everybody's so friendly here,it's like it's almost creepy
sometimes and the first time youcome here like why is everybody
so nice?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, I know.
And then you go back and you'relike oh my God, they remember
you.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, if I haven't been here.
I try to come about two times ayear.
But in that interim I'll goback to a restaurant and they're
like oh good to see you again.
And I'm like you remember meExactly.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Dary and the Dare County Foundation.
That's what it's all aboutRaising money for these kids,
keeping it here, keep thehistory going and providing
funds for them to go to school,come back and get in the
business, and that's why you endup with product like this
Multi-generational.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Agree, they're getting kids in middle schools
building skiffs that they'reselling and auctioning off, and
the money goes directly backinto the Dare County schools.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, they're selling an auction.
They got off and the money goesdirectly back into the county
schools.
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And then they're going out and you see the young
kids and it's like they'rethey're buttoned up, man,
they're ready, so tell me, thetechnology, anything that you
have done specific I know for usfrom the electrical side, doing
the power management for asport fish that's going to
either be, you know, off thecoast here or in costa rica, or
all over in some of the mostbeautiful remote places of the
world.
(04:46):
What have you done?
What's interesting on theexhaust side?
That is not something becauseyour space is limited.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was just going to go there.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It's the space right.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Okay, real estate, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So, like Caterpillar came out with the Cat C32 with
the triple turbos, to get allthree collectors, we have to
make a custom header and avertical and a horizontal
orientation, because you may nothave room and you may not have
room.
So it's a lot of custom designs, a lot of sharp turn radiuses.
So the elbows you're using youcan't just buy them off the
shelf Of course.
(05:20):
They've got to be custommanufactured, you've got to fit
the surge tees in there, you'vegot to make sure everything and
if you're backing down a bigfish, you can't let water back
in and flood the engine.
So it's, it's a lot of thatwhich, honestly, our team and
I'm sure it's the same with you-they like that.
They want to get involved insomething complicated, you know
so to see the engineers, and andthen they get the wheels
(05:40):
turning and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's I think, what it is, I know, for for our team.
They know that this boat isbeing used in a very specific
way, which is to go offshore innot the best weather, um, in not
necessarily in some of the mostremote places, as I said before
and perform well the boat hasto perform to its peak in order
(06:05):
for them to be successful.
So I feel like it gives us, Iknow, an ultimate goal in
working to that, and I'm surethat that's the same and that
the reputation of awards Marineright.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's why you have it, it's because you're doing
jobs like that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And the same thing with D'Angelo now.
So family business, how's thatbeen going?
How long have you been CEO?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So I've been back now for four years.
So, obviously my father hasbeen the sole owner since 2004.
So you know summer jobs, Sure,my dad called it the.
Hey, you want to go to collegeor you want to do this.
He'd kind of throw me inpressing elbows and doing all
that.
I was like, yeah, I think Ineed to go to college.
And then coming back and nowback for four years, kind of
(06:43):
taking over as my dad steps down.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
It's like the greatest gift you could ever be
given, it's like a niche company.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
The d'angelo family did so.
Well, the brand is known andit's like here and I'm just like
how lucky am I?
And like trying to take it fromwhere my father came from big
business and was all about, youknow, inventory controls,
process management and all that.
And now I'm coming in and Ilike to play with robotics and
all the technology.
He's like hey, you got allthese welders, what can we do?
It's fun.
(07:12):
It's fun.
You know, out of college I wasdoing consulting and that's cool
too, but it's a job.
And here, you know, if I'm everbored in the office, I just
walk the floor and say, hey,what are you building?
Cool.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
That's a turbine exhaust.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Tell me about it right.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I was like well, and I think it matters to your
company and I think it says alot too that you are here.
You didn't send yoursalesperson.
Actually, both of us are here,um, because we understand the
importance of the outer banksand the incredible amount of
talent that's in this outer bank, small roanoke island, that
people, if you, if you didn'tknow it existed, you could
(07:46):
absolutely overlook it.
But once you know, this is theepicenter of all sport fish
building in Carolina.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I'll never forget.
We got invited to one of theboat launches of one of the
builders and the service managertook me on and I don't come
from boating, so I don't knownothing.
And I'm like you know, andy,tell me what's special here?
And he took me in and andshowed me the cabinetry.
He's like Justin, look at thelines.
Like you don't understand thekind of custom craftsmanship and
this is all handmade, like tothe highest tolerance.
(08:14):
I'm like, oh, and you canclearly see the difference.
And now, being around, it'slike, oh, wow, that's, that's
custom.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, I can tell you how important the cabinetry is
and how valued it is.
Is that?
Um, we have actually done panelwork where the panels yeah, you
can just redo the panels, we'llpay to have them redone, but
we're not messing with thecarpentry and it's like man.
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That that there's such high attention paid to that
level of quality is incredibleand and craftsmen and women is
nowadays like I'm having troublewith welders and fabricators.
Sure, we need to raiseawareness for that, because to
make something at this highlevel, yep, these people have
been doing it their whole lifeand agree generational.
(08:58):
Yeah, you gotta make sure thatthe next generation knows.
Like, we have very talentedmetal fabricators and I have one
that's kind of getting olderand he said justin, I got three
more years before I retire.
You got three years to takewhat's in here.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's true, I deal with the same and you do, you
want to be able to to, to takethat information because there's
so much value in it, and reallypair them with a young employee
and somebody that they could,that they can kind of mentor and
take on.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But yeah, and like over the years years, you guys
have bailed us out on a bunch ofprojects and the crew that you
have, the electricians.
I tell everybody I'm like youcan go with whoever you want,
but if you want the best, yougotta call justin, I appreciate
that you know, would hang outwith the guys here and it's like
man they, but they've beendoing this their whole life.
Agree agree and they like doingit they do and they enjoy.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, if you look and see that most people here
are here to just be a part ofthis tournament that's happening
.
Everybody knows that this isgoing to education and to
scholarships and and back intothe community and that's why
people are here.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It really is all over the world.
I mean, where does MichaelJordan go when he wants it?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I know, you know what that came up to, exactly
exactly, and he could goanywhere, yeah anywhere,
anywhere, by any company, oncebut to build a boat.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But you know what?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
He's not alone.
It's not just him, I would sayso many of these builders.
They could be building theirboats anywhere and they're
choosing to do it, and they'rechoosing to buy more than one
boat or more than two boats.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, once you're a customer, you're a customer for
life, correct?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Correct.
That's in this one small partof the United States.
It's crazy, it is, but you knowwhere we are from and also
where we visit for all othershows.
We see these boats everywhereacross the world.
For me it's really important tojust get to be a part of it and
to see them and hear that maybethey won a tournament.
Has anybody ever come to youand said you know I would have
won if it?
I'm asking the question.
We're going to interview acouple of crew like that.
(10:49):
They wish they had differently,that you know, or or that
hindered them.
Have you ever had anybody cometo you and say, man, if I had
the exhaust a little or tweakeda little?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I wish I mean you know.
A lot of times the exhaust islike an afterthought, like you
don't really think of it, butit's like those who know know.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
They know Exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And they'll come to us and be like hey, why did you
do this?
What did you think about doinglike that?
And it's like that's a greatquestion.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's true, yeah you know so much custom work.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Because these men and women know.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Exactly what they're doing, and so when they talk.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's not like your everyday customer kicking tires,
it's like really.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And we'll invite them in and say, hey, let's have a
conversation with the engineer.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Tell know I hate cold call.
I don't like selling.
I hate knocking on doors.
Tell me what do you?
Think how can I add value toyou?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
oh, that's a problem?
Hey guys, can we fix this right, and that's 100 just a funner
way to do business it is, it isand for them you know the most
successful part of this and Ikeep pointing backwards, but you
know the boats that are comingin today.
You know I was watching themand they're so excited for each
other.
But to them a successful boattrip is, you know, tight lines
and making sure everybody gotback safe and so, I think, both
(11:57):
of us play a big part in thatyeah, and that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You have all the builders here, but they all get
along.
They're all supporting eachother, they all are it's like a
beautiful thing when industrycan come together and it's like,
hey, what are the best practicehere?
What worked over here, whatdidn't?
Oh that that didn't work overthere?
That's a safety hazard.
How can we engineer that out?
It's just fun, it's just Agree,you know what I mean.
Like it can get icky, like downin Fort Lauderdale, and that's
(12:22):
great.
It's a great.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
But you know, but it is nice to see and part of it
and and actually in a way, youknow, it's um.
I hate to say this, but, uh,it's kind of nice that it's
maybe only a few of us whohappen to know the secret, um,
but but we do, and the secret isgoing to get out.
And the secret is getting outthat that wanchis and and the
(12:43):
outer banks is absolutely wherea lot of this quality boat
building is so the collaboration, I mean everybody getting
together.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
When I, when I came back to d'angelo you know you
were kind of like a mentor to me, telling me where I need to be
and how I need it's.
It's that like yeah you don'tneed to tell me anything right
but the fact that you do that itjust helps everybody like that
means a lot to me obviously,thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
No, we all, we're all part of the same industry and
we all need to make each othersuccessful.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So what do they say?
Yeah, high tide raises allboats.
So well, justin.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Thank you for being here today and thank you for
being such a great partner andworking together, and I look
forward to many projects we workon in the future.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Amen, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Absolutely, thank you Appreciate it.
Thank you for joining us thisseason of the Ward's Way Podcast
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