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June 27, 2025 72 mins

I've been pre-scheduling podcast episodes this summer &, forgetting that we are now living in a time of anything goes chaos in the U.S., last week's conversation wound up publishing in the hours after the news involving Iran. Hopefully anyone who knows me knows that I wouldn't normally pivot from major world news to self-promotion but I still wanted to take this opportunity to apologize for any confusion or insensitivity that the accidentally ill-timed new episode caused. To make up for that gaffe, I thought I'd deliver this third conversation in our summer suite of episodes devoted to Physical Media early, just in case you're heading to the airport or about to unplug for the next week or so since it's a big time for summer travel here in the states. (So far, nothing Earth-shattering has happened that I'm aware of as I type this but as a friend joked, it's getting harder & harder to find a day without a catastrophe.) In any case, may this be a distraction for you.

In last week's new Watch With Jen, we led you down the dark streets of neo-noir. This installment is centered on American independent filmmakers (or in the case of Billy Wilder, very independently minded ones) & is devoted to matters of the heart. Kicking things off, VULTURE's brilliant TV critic & Peabody Awards juror Roxana Hadadi joins me to discuss Sean Baker's Oscar winning ANORA, SAINT OF THE NARROWS STREET novelist William Boyle returns to tackle CHOOSE ME by one of his favorite filmmakers Alan Rudolph, & I reunite with the knowledgeable film essayist Peter Avellino to talk about the magic of Billy Wilder's SOME LIKE IT HOT. Emotional, sparkling, & warm, I know this conversation will delight. Thanks so much for listening!

Originally Posted on Patreon (6/27/25) here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/132487075

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