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August 30, 2025 • 91 mins

When I text Ms. Rose Bundy and ask what the show will be about today, and she replies with, "it's a surprise", I know she is on her bullshit! LOL!

Prepare for a walk on the DARKSIDE in episode 7 of Watchtower After Dark. From Free Masons, to witchcraft, to tarot card readings (WTF), it's in here! Of course with the normal bullshitting shenanigans from Smurf Girl and ExJDub Mitch. Enjoy!

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SPEAKER_01 (00:01):
Say hi, Mitch.

SPEAKER_00 (00:24):
Hello.
Hello.
You threw me off with thedemonized.

SPEAKER_01 (00:29):
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
You threw me off with the demonized.

SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
Yeah.
I usually do.
That's my thing.
So, what are you drinking there?
Are you drinking something?

SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
Coffee.

SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
Oh, good for you.

SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
I had, like, two hours of sleep.

SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Oh, goodness.
Are you still feeling, like, thedream desire to make videos and
get your stuff out?

SPEAKER_00 (01:05):
Oh, yeah.
That's, like, that's mostly whatI'm doing.
Like, I record.
I'm editing.
Then I'm coming up with newthings.
I lay down and go to sleep, andthen new ideas pop in my head.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16):
Me too.
It's getting a little bitbetter, but a little bit better.
So, anyway, I want to talk aboutsymbols and hidden meaning for
something, because you know,with Lloyd Evans, he always butt

(01:36):
heads about whether or not, youknow, he doesn't understand
certain symbols and stuff.
And here in America, it'sdifferent.
Like, here in America, you know,it's extremely different.
With, uh, you know, fumes andstuff like that.
With anything that...

(01:57):
So here's my t-shirt.

SPEAKER_00 (01:58):
Oh, boy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:59):
Can you see it?

SPEAKER_00 (02:02):
Akron.
The 81 supporter.

SPEAKER_01 (02:05):
Yeah, do you know what that

SPEAKER_00 (02:07):
is?
No.

SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
That is a healthy t-shirt.
The 81, and the way that theycame up with it, being an 81
supporter, is the 8 is the 8letter of the alphabet, which is
H.
And the first letter of thealphabet is H.

(02:29):
So, A-H.
Hells Angels.
And so this is, you know, aHells Angels supporter t-shirt.
Because most people wouldn'twant to walk around with, you
know, a Hells

SPEAKER_00 (02:45):
Angels t-shirt.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (02:49):
And it's even on the back.
And it's like, this is theirt-shirt.
And if I were to say O.D., onestands for the eighth letter of
the alphabet, which is theletter A.
And the first letter of thealphabet, which is the letter A.

(03:11):
And that stands for H.A.
No, I'm saying it wrong, sorry.
H.A.
for Hell's End.
And that's what that's supposedto look like in the code.
If I were to be told that that'sa coincidence, when that's what
the hell they do.

(03:32):
You know what I mean.
And I actually got this from afamily member.

SPEAKER_00 (03:41):
Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 (03:43):
Because I have family members that are in that
group.
And so I walk around in my beancoat, and sometimes I walk
around like this.
This is me.
That

SPEAKER_00 (03:56):
wasn't that bad.
That didn't scare me.

SPEAKER_01 (03:58):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (04:04):
Why?

SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (04:07):
It's

SPEAKER_01 (04:09):
okay.
And it's a club, not a gang.
Yeah.
They don't like being called agang.
So they're not a gang.

SPEAKER_00 (04:24):
I don't know anything about it, so I can't
say.

SPEAKER_01 (04:26):
I know.
But it's like they've gott-shirts around it.
And they have their own littlepin code.
You know, you have a secrethandshake.
You have a certain symbol.
You do things as a group.
You do things as a club.

(04:47):
And when other people...
Well, that is actually the onekind of thing.
You have a club and somebodyelse who's not a part of the
club thinks that it's apolitical influence.
and doesn't understand

SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
who else has who else has secret handshakes and
secret symbols

SPEAKER_01 (05:13):
um lots of

SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
people

SPEAKER_01 (05:16):
I know that we had a room when we had a clubhouse as
a kid.
What's the secret password?
Lord of the Flies.

SPEAKER_00 (05:34):
Yeah.
Oh my

SPEAKER_01 (05:37):
goodness.
That irks me when I know thatI've got teachers that I can go
and walk around and people askme what's the 81 support.
Oh, it supports the 81, which isthe Hells Angels.
You know?
Hells Angels.

(05:58):
So anyway.
And I want to apologize topeople, I'm hearing like an
echo, so if I'm talking a littledifferent, it's because of the
echo.
And Mitch apparently doesn'thear it, but I hear it.
I'm just letting you know.
I'm just letting you know.

SPEAKER_00 (06:19):
You know why you're here?

SPEAKER_01 (06:21):
Why?
Why?

SPEAKER_00 (06:22):
Because of the smurfing and Chucky you have

SPEAKER_01 (06:25):
there.
I know.
It's like, Chucky, knock himoff.
He was up all night, too.
He was up all night, too.
He was the

SPEAKER_00 (06:34):
one bobbing

SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
it.
No.
Now you're going to freak out.

SPEAKER_00 (06:40):
Watch

SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Mitch go.
Watch Mitch go.
Another simple thing, Mitch, isthis.

SPEAKER_00 (06:51):
Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_01 (06:56):
Look, I'm sorry.
No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
Why in the hell do you have those?

SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
Because.

SPEAKER_00 (07:07):
You're making me sweat.

SPEAKER_01 (07:08):
No, well, see, I just bought this.
I didn't make it myself.
I was given this t-shirt.
You buy this t-shirt.
I

SPEAKER_00 (07:19):
know that, but why?

SPEAKER_01 (07:20):
And they have their own Masonic Tarot.
And the reason why I bought itis because I was trying to prove
a point to Lloyd Evans that youcan't prove a point to him.
He's like a bad ex-husbandwhere, you know...
He's like a bad ex-husbandwhere, you know, you try to

(07:41):
prove a point, he will not admitthat you're right.

SPEAKER_00 (07:47):
I don't...
I don't know, so I can't say.
I don't

SPEAKER_01 (07:51):
know.
No, he is.
Or like a future ex-husband.
And by the way, everybody, it's10 o'clock in the morning.
It's not even after dark.

(08:13):
Well, it's...
Right,

SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
right.
It's dark.
It's nighttime right now.
Yeah.
It turned nighttime for me whenyou showed me those damn cards.

SPEAKER_01 (08:25):
I know.
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (08:26):
I'm sorry.
Big baby.

SPEAKER_01 (08:29):
So anyway, I'm going to show you some of the cards.
I'm not going to read them.
I'm going to read off of them.
The Empress.
There's the high palace.
The tower.

(08:51):
Look at that.
Look at that, Floyd Evans.
Masonic tarot.
Got a tower.
The chariot.
Got a ride.
Oh, this one's risque.

(09:12):
The world.
The world.
It's very rough.
With the naked woman.
Oh, there's a Lloyd card.
There's a Lloyd card.
The fool.

SPEAKER_00 (09:27):
It's

SPEAKER_01 (09:29):
also Arden Hansen.

SPEAKER_00 (09:32):
You're going to get me

SPEAKER_01 (09:39):
beat up.
But unless it...
There's the wheel of fortune.
You know.
And...
You know the death of all themusicians.
The death card.

(10:00):
The hangman.
Judgment.
and justice.
And then there's a lot of otherones that are kind of like a
regular deck of cards, like it'sgold and it's thick talisman,

(10:22):
but it's like a deck of cards.
And those are like the facecards.
And so, you know, you see thatthere's a symbol on it.
And they're tarot cards.
And here's the back.
It's got a pyramid, you know,all the guys, and the sun, and

(10:47):
the checkerboard, and

SPEAKER_00 (10:49):
it's terrified.
Okay, what does the sun mean?

SPEAKER_01 (10:54):
Um, what do you mean by the sun?
It's the sun and the moon.

SPEAKER_00 (10:59):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (11:00):
It's more of an ascetic type of thing.

SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
And what about the checkerboard?

SPEAKER_01 (11:06):
Um, that's King Solomon's Temple, actually.
The floor of King Solomon'sTemple.

SPEAKER_00 (11:13):
Well, is that supposed to symbolize, like,
enlightenment, since it'sSolomon?

SPEAKER_01 (11:19):
Um, yeah, well, the previous built, the King
Solomon's Temple, they were theones that built it.

SPEAKER_00 (11:28):
Gotcha, okay.
Like

SPEAKER_01 (11:31):
they were the stonemasons that built the
temple, and built thefoundation, and built the floor,
and from a bit, he built it, andlike, I believe this is like the
Charles C.
A.
Ruff,

SPEAKER_00 (11:48):
or

SPEAKER_01 (11:50):
like the Joseph

SPEAKER_00 (11:51):
Smith.

SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
A framing summary.

SPEAKER_00 (11:57):
Not

SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
to be offensive, but to explain.

SPEAKER_00 (12:00):
How do you know all of

SPEAKER_01 (12:04):
this?
Because I've been hugelyinvolved in it with power.
and with family, with myself,for years.
So like, I didn't learn thisfrom like reading a book.

(12:28):
And...
So, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
When you say you learned it from, like, the cult,
you know, the religion cult,how?
Like, somebody there is usingthose?

SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
Oh, I got you.
Okay.
All

SPEAKER_00 (12:55):
right.

SPEAKER_01 (12:59):
Like, and then they met, where you've got Freemason
rings, you've got being awitness, and they're like this.
And then there's you.

SPEAKER_00 (13:12):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (13:13):
That's how it was explained.

SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
Alright.

SPEAKER_01 (13:18):
And usually the witness is just like a tool for
Freemason.
Like, it's a tool.

SPEAKER_00 (13:25):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (13:27):
that they use to try and control

SPEAKER_00 (13:34):
and you said i think it was on like uh episode one or
two you said you are you are one

SPEAKER_01 (13:43):
yeah yeah yeah well once you get initiated you're
always You know, right?
Like, once you're in COVID,like, once you're a baptized
COVID witness, can you undobeing a baptized COVID witness?

(14:08):
Exactly.
But, I actually like Freemason.
Like, I enjoy it.
Why?
Because I know I know more thanothers.
Others?
You know, that I can look andhave a teacher that other people

(14:30):
won't know.
I can give a handshake or I canlook at a window and identify
somebody else that other peoplewouldn't know.
Other people wouldn't know.
It's just how, it's like collegeeducation.
Where I've had a collegeeducation and pre-made

(14:52):
something.
You know, and when you takeclass on it, you know, I've got
a PhD in it.
You know, where you wouldn't goto a psychiatrist or a
psychologist and start, youknow, or like a brain surgeon.
Oh, well, you know.

(15:13):
I heard that that instrument is,you know, stupid or something.
When they're highly skilled atit.
Or like when they're doing brainsurgery with like microtype of
equipment.
And then you say, oh yeah, Iknow how to do that because I

(15:35):
play video games.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I don't know.
Like, I play Call of Duty, so Iknow how to be in war and shoot
a gun, because I play Call ofDuty, and I've got, like, you
know, 11 million points forkills.

(15:57):
You know, I'm a sniper on Callof Duty.
You know, I sit...
Sometimes I ask you thingsbecause

SPEAKER_00 (16:16):
people ask me.
Are there dark things that go onlike headquarters that, uh, I'm
trying to think of how to wordit.

(16:37):
Okay, I'll just flat out askyou.
Is there, like, witchcraftinside the organization?

SPEAKER_01 (16:47):
The whole thing is witchcraft.
The whole thing.
There's nothing that's notwitchcraft.
And anarchy.
Witchcraft, anarchy, andfortune-telling.
sign reading.
Reading the signs.

(17:10):
You know, you can't see it.
I'm trying to do it because ofmy camera.
When they stand there andthey're like, it's the Bible.
Welcome, brothers and sisters.
Have you done well?
You know, I'm leaving that.
And they sit there with theirpictures on the Bible.

(17:34):
Now, imagine the Luigi boardplan tech.
This is the deck of territory,but I'm going to put it on the
table.
And I say, and I just go, oh,hey, mate.
How's it going?
Let's talk about yoga.
Ooh.

(17:56):
We can get on.
Jehovah.

UNKNOWN (18:01):
Jehovah.

SPEAKER_01 (18:01):
the whole it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
it's it's it's So, okay

SPEAKER_00 (18:49):
How would they?
Because I heard they're indifferent congregations too.
How does it pass around theorganization?

SPEAKER_01 (19:05):
What do you mean?
The demon stuff?

SPEAKER_00 (19:09):
Yeah, the witchcraft.
How does it go from headquartersto congregations?

SPEAKER_01 (19:15):
Influence.
Through the magazines?

UNKNOWN (19:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (19:20):
Somebody will read it.
They'll see that thing with thetarot card.
And what's the one thing thatJehovah's Witnesses do when they
see anything they're told thatthey're not supposed to?
You know, you better notfornicate.

(19:43):
You better not lie.
You better not do Ouija.
Don't do terror.

SPEAKER_00 (19:49):
You

SPEAKER_01 (19:50):
know.

SPEAKER_00 (19:52):
I'm with the first two.

SPEAKER_01 (19:54):
But they always...
Well, okay.
For men.
Don't masturbate.
Don't watch porn.
Oh, I think you froze on me.
Oh, I think you froze on me.

SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
Okay, you're back.
You froze.

SPEAKER_01 (20:10):
You froze.

SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
It's because of what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 (20:14):
What?
What?

SPEAKER_00 (20:15):
It's because of what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 (20:17):
Yeah.
Oh, I know you're like...
With men, it's like, don't watchporn.
Don't masturbate.
Don't cheat on your eyes.
You know, don't lie.

(20:38):
And that's what they'll do.
or don't do freemasonry whateveryou do but with the women with
women it's a woman thing withwomen it's a woman thing don't
do Ouija don't do tarot don'ttell spooky stories that are you

(20:58):
know sleepover and they will andthe women are the ones that are
the most freaked out about Satanand demons And so it's a woman

SPEAKER_00 (21:14):
thing.
Wow.
I've had a couple of exJehovah's Witness women tell me
that they looked into a witch.
And they're like, I'm a witch,but not a bad witch.
Like, I've had two tell me that.
And I'm looking at my phonelike...

SPEAKER_01 (21:38):
Them telling you they're a witch.
Well, I was just talking tosomebody else about it.
I'm not going to say his name,but you know from yesterday?
Yes, yes.
You hooked me up with?
And I said to him, I thought ofit last night.
A fake witch is someone who hasto tell you they're a witch.

(21:58):
A real witch is someone who isaccused of being a witch.

SPEAKER_00 (22:04):
Oh, that's why you posted that.
Okay, I get it.
Okay, all right.
Because if you have to tell

SPEAKER_01 (22:09):
somebody, then you're not.
People will be like, I don'tknow, it's not so much about the
scarcity or, you know.
I'm not one, but I get accusedin life.
Or maybe I am.

SPEAKER_00 (22:32):
I'm a bit trying to think she's telling me not
because she is, but she's tryingto throw me off.

SPEAKER_01 (22:41):
I don't even, you know, it's like some people just
try too hard.
You don't become something likethat by just wanting to be one.
You get a reputation and...
Other people make that.

(23:04):
It is an irritation.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 (23:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:12):
Because I've never once said that I want one, but
people will call me humanitisall the time.
Millions of people call me that.
I don't know.
I don't know.
And I'm trying to make themstop, and they won't.

(23:34):
Maybe it's because I do thingslike this.
You know, that's how I got thebad reputation.

SPEAKER_00 (23:45):
You do things, and you call yourself things, and so
yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
I don't call myself that.
That is a title that you, andevery one of us, you chose when
you were a witness.

SPEAKER_00 (24:02):
I never did, no.
I don't even like to say thatword.
Demonize

SPEAKER_01 (24:09):
Smurf Girl?

SPEAKER_00 (24:10):
The first word.
Demonize?
Yes.
That's why I was afraid to talkto you at first.

SPEAKER_01 (24:22):
I was given the title.
Like Faithful Slave, I was giventhe title.
It was bestowed upon me.
And me having a title like that,you know, where else would I get
it?
You know, being involved withwhat I was involved in.

(24:43):
You know.
You know.
I'm, uh...
What are you

SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
doing?

SPEAKER_01 (24:52):
Doing

SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
the turn.
Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!

SPEAKER_01 (25:01):
very much he's freaking out.
I'm just shuffling it.

SPEAKER_00 (25:08):
Uncle Tony is not going to be happy.

SPEAKER_01 (25:10):
Oh, Uncle Tony loves it.
He's probably laughing.
He's drinking his ginseng.
He's telling Uncle Tony...
I'm shuffling it.
I'm shuffling it.
You're going to make him passout.
Do you believe in it then?

(25:31):
It's just a different card.
I'm thinking about it.
I'm doing it.

SPEAKER_00 (25:47):
No.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (25:51):
Will you really flip out if I do it?

SPEAKER_00 (25:54):
If you do what?

SPEAKER_01 (25:56):
If I read your thing?

SPEAKER_00 (25:59):
Oh, I wouldn't like that.

SPEAKER_01 (26:01):
Oh, you wouldn't?

SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
Good thing it's daytime.

SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
I know.

SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
You got my forehead sweating.

SPEAKER_01 (26:11):
Well, you know, there's a lot of tarot card
setups in the magazine, too.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 (26:20):
Like in their illustrations?

SPEAKER_01 (26:22):
Yeah, like Tara Blake's.

SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
And they always spell out

SPEAKER_01 (26:30):
one way or the other.

SPEAKER_00 (26:34):
So you mean when they use an illustration that
have cards in it?

SPEAKER_01 (26:40):
Yeah, like that tarot card girl.

SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (26:44):
Looks like me doing this.
We know the illustration that'slike...
Some witchy girl that looksexactly like me going...

SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
you you need to start uh you should go after
them like like the collegeplayers they have the nil name
and likeness you need to do thatwith them yeah yeah you know the
one i really like though whenyou're riding a wild beast

SPEAKER_01 (27:25):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (27:26):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (27:28):
Like this?

SPEAKER_00 (27:29):
Yeah.
Your hair is like that, too.

SPEAKER_01 (27:32):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (27:33):
It is you.

SPEAKER_01 (27:34):
It is you.

SPEAKER_00 (27:36):
Yeah, of

SPEAKER_01 (27:39):
course it's you.

SPEAKER_00 (27:40):
I used to stare at my magazine like, man, I don't
know.
I'll be like, that harlot iskind of

SPEAKER_01 (27:50):
hot.
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
Like you

SPEAKER_00 (27:59):
said you said

SPEAKER_01 (28:04):
a

SPEAKER_00 (28:14):
few minutes ago everything they told us not to
do I would do

SPEAKER_01 (28:20):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (28:21):
Yeah That's just how I am.
Like, you tell me not to dosomething, I'm just going to do
it because I can.

SPEAKER_01 (28:27):
Yeah, yeah.
And it even leaves women worse.
And I miss that.
Like, when we were talking aboutdating.

SPEAKER_00 (28:39):
Yeah, oh my goodness.
Dating is

SPEAKER_01 (28:42):
so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 (28:44):
People are still talking to me about that
episode.

SPEAKER_01 (28:47):
Really?

SPEAKER_00 (28:49):
Oh, yeah.
It

SPEAKER_01 (28:50):
touched

SPEAKER_00 (28:52):
a lot of nerves, though.

SPEAKER_01 (28:56):
Oh, did it?
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about

SPEAKER_00 (29:01):
it.
Yeah, it touched a lot ofnerves.
So, because they're telling me,like...
And these are, like, mostlyfemales.
And they're telling me, like,yeah, like...
They told me to stop and thinkabout it, because they asked,
did I know...
I know witness girls who gotmarried at 18 and 19.

(29:23):
So they said, stop and thinkabout, did they turn 18 and just
get interested in...
And, you know, I was like, oh,damn.
Like, it hit me, like, how youngthat's starting.

SPEAKER_01 (29:42):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (29:43):
Like, that episode, it triggered a lot of females.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I feel horrible.

SPEAKER_01 (29:51):
well do you really think that so that

SPEAKER_00 (30:00):
they

SPEAKER_01 (30:01):
can indicate that that's that's that's that's

SPEAKER_00 (30:06):
that's

SPEAKER_01 (30:10):
that's that's that's that's that's that's that's
that's that's that's that'sthat's that's that's that's
that's that's that's that'sthat's that's that's don't take
it yeah cause that back of thesongbook cause that brother he
was looking for a wife

SPEAKER_00 (30:29):
the wrist

SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
yeah the back of the songbook don't do that you're
gonna pull

SPEAKER_00 (30:40):
up

SPEAKER_01 (30:45):
See, now I'm triggered.
You know what feeling just cameover me when you were doing
that?
That I want to cut your wristoff?
You did!

SPEAKER_00 (31:00):
Yeah, that I

SPEAKER_01 (31:01):
literally want to cut your wrist off.

SPEAKER_00 (31:06):
I thought you were saying something else.

SPEAKER_01 (31:08):
No, I was going to cut

SPEAKER_00 (31:11):
it out.
That's

SPEAKER_01 (31:11):
a joke.
You know, I'm going to do.

SPEAKER_00 (31:15):
No.
No.
You showing your

SPEAKER_01 (31:17):
answers?
Me the same doing this?

SPEAKER_00 (31:20):
That's why I distracted you so you could put
the cards down.

SPEAKER_01 (31:26):
No, this is a joke.
I'm just going to do it.
Don't you want to do it?
I can't see.
I'm not going to show you.
I'm just going to look.
Oh, no.
Uh-oh.

(31:46):
You know what?
Oh, you know what came up?
The ace of swords.
He's choking to death.
He's choking to death.

(32:09):
Too late, it's not gonna protect

SPEAKER_00 (32:11):
you.
Oh boy, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (32:14):
Ace of Swords to your wrist.
No, this is like Dungeons andDragons.

SPEAKER_00 (32:20):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (32:21):
Ace of Swords to your wrist.
I'm the queen of chalices.
It's gonna Ace of Swords to yourwrist.
And then the three of mallet.
I'm gonna mallet it afterwards.
Judgment.

(32:44):
Four Swords.
Ten of Golds.
And Justice.

SPEAKER_00 (32:57):
Booyah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:00):
Cabin Judge and Justice.

SPEAKER_00 (33:03):
Yes.
Winning.
You're sweaty.
Isn't it hot where you at?
I've

SPEAKER_01 (33:16):
got a hand button.
You can read the hand button.

SPEAKER_00 (33:23):
What is the

SPEAKER_01 (33:26):
hand button?
I did a reading as a mastermason.
Which is seven cards.
Yeah, seven.

SPEAKER_00 (33:37):
Very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 (33:39):
Thank you.
Thank you.
This one will be for free andthen watch.
You'll be addicted to itafterwards if you want me to do
it again.

SPEAKER_00 (33:50):
Nah.
Probably not.

SPEAKER_01 (33:53):
Yeah, welcome to the psychic hotline.
You'll have a swamp lot in acouple of weeks.

SPEAKER_00 (34:03):
I just can't.

SPEAKER_01 (34:14):
It can't freak people out.

SPEAKER_00 (34:19):
then and

SPEAKER_01 (34:20):
why do you want to know that it's because what's
what you can see about it

SPEAKER_00 (34:25):
uh...
all bad pictures

SPEAKER_01 (34:31):
and that's not all three three uh...
you know you know it's it's it'sit's it's it's it's it's it's i
wouldn't say scared i'm a little

SPEAKER_00 (35:06):
leery

SPEAKER_01 (35:09):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (35:10):
yeah

SPEAKER_01 (35:11):
literally they're just a car it's like doing
something

SPEAKER_00 (35:26):
but weird stuff happened

SPEAKER_01 (35:30):
What?
What?

SPEAKER_00 (35:31):
I said weird things happen, though.

SPEAKER_01 (35:34):
Weird things happen.

SPEAKER_00 (35:37):
But we were, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, when we talk about certainthings, and you know what I'm
talking about, that one episode.
What?
Where you told me to look back.
Oh.
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (35:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (35:57):
I know, yeah.
To everybody who doesn't know, Iwas talking, doing my thing, and
all of a sudden this black orcshoots out, hits the wall, and
goes into my chest.
It made a noise.
It went, mm-mm, into me.

(36:20):
Into me.
And I posted it.
You can find it on my Instagram.
And I think my TikTok too.

SPEAKER_00 (36:29):
Yeah, TikTok too.
That's where I looked at it.
I was like, nah.
Because you told me to look atit while I was editing.
And I'm like, ah.
It's probably light orsomething.

SPEAKER_01 (36:40):
It made a noise.
That's what I was thinking, too.
I was thinking maybe it was afly.

SPEAKER_00 (36:47):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
That's an insect.

SPEAKER_01 (36:50):
But it made a big noise.
It made like a...
Like that.
And then it went...

SPEAKER_00 (37:00):
Freaking me the hell out.

SPEAKER_01 (37:02):
Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_00 (37:04):
It's because of what you were talking about.

SPEAKER_01 (37:06):
Yeah, we were talking about your parents.
Did anything happen with yourparents?

UNKNOWN (37:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (37:14):
What?
What?
No.
Are you sure?
Are you sure?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
But it was what we were talkingabout.
And I had my eyes shut.

SPEAKER_00 (37:28):
You what?

SPEAKER_01 (37:29):
It even followed my eyes.
Like my eyes were shut.
And it kind of...
People have to go look.

SPEAKER_00 (37:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (37:41):
Because it was weird.
It was weird.

SPEAKER_00 (37:45):
It was weird.

SPEAKER_01 (37:49):
It was like an orb.
A dark orb.
I

SPEAKER_00 (37:55):
still think it was a fly.

SPEAKER_01 (37:58):
It made noise though.
It made noise though.
I was thinking maybe two.

SPEAKER_00 (38:04):
That's what I'm telling myself.

SPEAKER_01 (38:05):
I'm

SPEAKER_00 (38:06):
telling myself.
It was a horsefly.

SPEAKER_01 (38:10):
I would have seen it.
No, because there was a fly andI was chewing it.
That was not it.
And it disappeared into the air.
So...
Did you change the subject?

SPEAKER_00 (38:32):
I was trying to think of anything, too.
I know.
Tell the weather there.

SPEAKER_01 (38:42):
Especially with

SPEAKER_00 (38:45):
this coat on.
I don't even see how you can doit.
I'm sweating right now just fromwhat you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 (38:50):
I know.
I'm sorry.
You're the one who brought itup.

SPEAKER_00 (38:54):
I have to face my fears head on because these are
things that people want to know.
So I'm brave and I ask you.
I'm being brave and I ask you.

SPEAKER_01 (39:04):
Anything else?
What else?

SPEAKER_00 (39:09):
What else do they say about Smurf Girl?
People surprise me becauselike...
don't comment you know on socialmedia but then they reach out to
me they'd be like hey when smurfgirl said this or hey i like you
and smurf girl and like i'm likeoh wow they're probably a little

(39:35):
afraid of you like i was

SPEAKER_01 (39:38):
oh don't be yeah

SPEAKER_00 (39:42):
I'd say she's nice, you know.
She'd talk about weird stuffevery once in a

SPEAKER_01 (39:48):
while.
Hey, you know, it's like, itneeds to be broached, and then
when you break it up, otherpeople bring it up.
You know, it's bringing up asubject, broaching a subject for
the first time.
You know.

(40:09):
And, like, what do you expect ofthe wild beast?
The wild beast has got brooch.
I've got to publicly do somewild beast type of behavior,
which is I've got to smoke,drink, do some hair.

(40:32):
Wild beast.
Wild beast.

SPEAKER_00 (40:37):
What do you like to drink?
Fireball.
That's what keeps you so fiery.

SPEAKER_01 (40:51):
Yeah.
they

SPEAKER_00 (41:09):
uh they're very like you always impress them with
like all the knowledge you havefrom a young age about the
organization

SPEAKER_01 (41:19):
like

SPEAKER_00 (41:19):
yeah

SPEAKER_01 (41:24):
yeah I had already started reading all the
literature.
I could read by the age of twoand by the age of five.
And having special time in whatI went through, I had a lot of
time to sit and read.

(41:46):
And that's all I read.
And I had access to TheJunkyard.
And all that old literature thatthey would get thrown out, all
the surrounding paper malls, allthat old literature that they

(42:06):
were supposed to learn, theywould send it to our publisher.
And so I would then take theparts that I didn't have to have
a complete library, and I wouldsecretly pick it.
That was like my dirty littlesecret.

SPEAKER_00 (42:30):
Why did they want them to burn it?

SPEAKER_01 (42:33):
Because of all the crazy things.
I mean, why do you think theywant to burn all that old
literature?
Like studies and scriptures, youknow.

UNKNOWN (42:51):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (42:51):
There's some shocking things in that
literature, right?
Where, considering all thedemonized things that are in
that literature, that is exactlywhat they would want.
Like, we need to burn this.

(43:12):
And when you burn something,like with this, They're on the
set of scriptures that the wingswill be dead.
This kind of looks like the setof scriptures, you know?
And it's like, we need to burnthem.

(43:32):
What's going to happen when youburn them like that in half?

SPEAKER_00 (43:38):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (43:40):
Making me leave something.
I don't know.
No, the funny thing is...
Is when there's one team and Ieven I heard everything was like
in 82 mm-hmm that was Weegeeboards And the old literature

(44:04):
was always over like And I meanI of all the surrounding
congregations, including ourown, they would send their
weirdo demonite toys, all theold literature, tarot cards, all

(44:29):
of that stuff, they would sendit to the south of the yard to
be burned.
All at the same time.
And we would burn it alltogether.
So, you know, I remember when wewere at the cell, you know,

(44:52):
where this teacher came from.
And we're throwing those smurfs,stuffed animals, you know, and
he kept doing this and doingthis and doing this.
And then, you know, Kingdom Hallsays that's all to the

(45:12):
self-regard.
The old literature, the studiesof the scriptures, the rainbow
space.
And so we were like, well, thisbig pile of stuff needs to be
burned.
And because we were witnesses,the organization trusted us that
it would get burned, they asked.

(45:33):
We were like the only ones incharge that they could trust the
burn.
And so we would burn it, but wewould burn it all together.
And we'd be, you know, it'slike, you know, we'd throw,
like, we'd be throwing, like, acard, you know, we'd be throwing

(45:54):
it into the burn barrel.
If we, this is new, when they'reburning that fetish, they don't
burn cells, and they split cellsout to our turn.
What else is being best?
Like all together.

(46:17):
Like you can't take a bunch ofwashtubbers and a bunch of tarot
cards and Ouija boards and whatthey're all out getting rid of
and then wanting it all toalternate and it gets all burned
together.
What does that end up happening?

UNKNOWN (46:32):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (46:33):
i don't know i don't know and most witnesses this is
the conundrum though they're theones that started and they're
the ones that did it most ofthem would probably say oh then

(47:07):
why are they so careful youcan't be paranoid and then when
i tell you when you send yourold literature and it gets all
burnt together And then you havethis story about yourself.

(47:31):
Well, that's where it's comingfrom.
You know, and most people wouldbe like, would that be a thing?
Could that really happen?
Who knows?
It could just be satanic.

(47:51):
It could just be, like, completemess there, yeah.
Or

SPEAKER_00 (47:58):
it could be real.
What do you think?
I've talked to some people andthey're like, I'm talking about
ex-witnesses, and they feelthere's no such thing as a
spirit world or demons.

(48:20):
They say it's just all made upto scare us.

SPEAKER_01 (48:26):
Um...
I've seen the Jehovah's Witnessbehavior.
At first I used to be that waytoo.
I used to say I don't believe indemons.
But now that I've seen Jehovah'sWitness behavior and how evil
they are, I 100% believe indemons and I know that they are

(48:49):
a pest.

SPEAKER_00 (48:50):
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (48:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (48:53):
of whether it's a mental thing or

SPEAKER_00 (49:10):
yeah i like i wholeheartedly believe it like
it was a

SPEAKER_01 (49:16):
uh

SPEAKER_00 (49:17):
one of my friends, a creator, and she posted a video.
She went on a live, by mistake,and it was like a Jehovah's
Witness live.

SPEAKER_01 (49:26):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (49:27):
Like, the way they were talking to her and taunting
her and talking about her, butall the while claiming to be
Jehovah's Witnesses, but theysounded crazed.
Oh! Oh! Yeah.
And they want to call us crazyand under demonic influence, but
the way they act and the waythey talk, you know, when

(49:50):
they're supposed to be aChristian and they're telling me
to go hang myself, like, yeah, Ithink they're influenced.

SPEAKER_01 (49:57):
Oh, no one is quite fully meaningful.

SPEAKER_00 (50:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (50:05):
As we're just trying to be nice.

SPEAKER_00 (50:08):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (50:09):
I'm not going to be nice.

UNKNOWN (50:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (50:13):
and and and and and and and and and and and

SPEAKER_00 (50:39):
and Oh, this is one of my favorites.
I'll be laughing when I watchGod destroy you.
Like, they like to tell me that.

SPEAKER_01 (50:52):
Well, well.
I can't wait for them to bedestroyed.

UNKNOWN (51:03):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 (51:03):
Yeah, they say some pretty ugly things.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (51:07):
Because we make the news like they

SPEAKER_00 (51:12):
do.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (51:14):
No.
You know?
Like, how funny.

SPEAKER_00 (51:18):
That's a good

SPEAKER_01 (51:20):
point.
Yeah, you don't see an extrawhole switch of prostate.
You know?
Yeah.
Well, sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 (51:33):
Yeah.
Now

SPEAKER_01 (51:36):
I remember that most recent one That was done years

(51:59):
ago And I did it for mystepfather as a big giant.
And I'm like, oh, you can becomethe wild beast.
And that was just a joke.
And I'm like, here you go,because why'd you do that?
And I said, because you alwayscall me.

(52:22):
So it was a portrait, you know,I had a friend, just like this.
You know, just had somebodypaint a portrait of me.
And I gave it, and I remember, Ithink it was Miles and Jeremy
that took it.
Mark Sanderson and Jeremy.

(52:44):
And they were like, I was like19 when it was painted.
It was a long time ago.

SPEAKER_00 (52:51):
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (52:53):
A long time ago.
Unless it's a recreation, but Ithink it's the same one.

SPEAKER_00 (52:59):
Okay.
So I guess that shows that theWild

SPEAKER_01 (53:03):
Wilds won the organization.
I win.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Cheers.

SPEAKER_00 (53:13):
Oh, I'm sorry, hold on,

SPEAKER_01 (53:16):
hold on.
There you go.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh,

SPEAKER_00 (53:24):
oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh, oh.

UNKNOWN (53:32):
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_01 (53:33):
Oh, oh, oh, oh,

SPEAKER_00 (53:33):
oh, oh, oh,

SPEAKER_01 (53:33):
oh, oh.
Oh, oh,

SPEAKER_00 (53:33):
oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh.

SPEAKER_01 (53:35):
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh,

SPEAKER_00 (53:40):
When you text me and when I asked what are we going
to talk about today, and youtold me, and then scary stuff, I
was like, ah, hell, so I went

SPEAKER_01 (53:51):
and got that.

SPEAKER_00 (53:55):
It is, it is.
That's why I call it WatchtowerAfter Dark.

SPEAKER_01 (54:01):
Yep, yep.
Oh, drinking.
Oh, we have to do drinking gamealert.
It's too late.

SPEAKER_00 (54:09):
Oh, yeah.
We have to remember.
It

SPEAKER_01 (54:11):
would be the word tarot cards.
Tarot cards.

UNKNOWN (54:18):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (54:20):
I cannot believe you brought those.

SPEAKER_01 (54:23):
They've been sitting over there the whole

SPEAKER_00 (54:26):
time.
You enjoy, like, bothering me.

SPEAKER_01 (54:29):
I know.
I'm

SPEAKER_00 (54:36):
protecting myself.

SPEAKER_01 (54:40):
I hope the echo doesn't affect

SPEAKER_00 (54:42):
people.
Nah, they don't care.
They came for the t-shirt.

SPEAKER_01 (54:49):
They

SPEAKER_00 (54:49):
came for the t-shirt.

SPEAKER_01 (54:53):
Well, you know what's funny, too, about the
symbols?
Us that are Americans, we getit.
You know what I mean?
We're the ones that have got apyramid on a dollar bill.

SPEAKER_00 (55:08):
You

SPEAKER_01 (55:10):
know, it wasn't that long ago, like in the 90s, that
people noticed what the pyramidon the dollar bill meant.

SPEAKER_00 (55:26):
What did that mean?

SPEAKER_01 (55:28):
You know, the pyramid of the all-seeing

SPEAKER_00 (55:31):
guy.
And that

SPEAKER_01 (55:31):
this priest makes money on our money.
That's like one year's priest.

SPEAKER_00 (55:42):
People started to

SPEAKER_01 (55:43):
fold the dollar and see the dollar.
And that's an American thing.
And the Jehovah's Witness is anAmerican religion.
And so leave it to somebodywho's not American to not

(56:03):
understand.
And that irks me.
That's like, oh, well, whatabout the dollar bill?
Forget about the witnesses.
What about the dollar bill?
The pyramid on the dollar.
And the Freemasonry on our bill,the Freemasonry of the majority

(56:27):
of the Presidents of the UnitedStates, like, all of them with
five of them or something, areFreemasons.
Look at George Washington.
If you look at the Presidents ofthe United States, and then you
put Charles T.
Russell with his own spirit init, How is that not a disgusting

(56:52):
thing?

SPEAKER_00 (56:53):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (56:55):
You know, you gotta...
You gotta...
You gotta...
You gotta...
You gotta...
You gotta...
You gotta...
You gotta...
You gotta...

(57:17):
what about

SPEAKER_00 (57:22):
no we talked about it a little bit before but the
members of the governing bodyyou you think they all are

SPEAKER_01 (57:44):
um Like, they're not cowgirls, Charles Tate Ruff.
Like, I actually have cowgirls,Charles Tate Ruff.
And they would never be Ruff.

(58:05):
Like, are they the equivalent ofCharles Tate Ruff?
No.
Just what he did as a humanbeing.
Like what they've

SPEAKER_00 (58:42):
turned it into?

SPEAKER_01 (58:44):
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (58:45):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 (58:46):
Because it could have been something a little bit
bad for us.
Like, it really could have.
And instead, they just basicallysaid none of us wanted to be a
part of it.
I remember back when we wereyounger, because we were the
same age, where I was proud tobe a journalist for a break.

UNKNOWN (59:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (59:14):
not so much

SPEAKER_00 (59:15):
no not now no yeah that's what me and my other
friends we talk about it's likeuh it was different back when we
were you know coming up in itlike you were proud but now it's
like a laughing stock now i'mglad i'm away from it

SPEAKER_01 (59:31):
yeah yeah i remember Watched our women hanging around
with the infants, you know,going back behind the stage,
knowing the found guys being allbeing related to some of them.

(59:59):
And it was actually something tobe proud

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:02):
of.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:05):
And when it was actually growing, when it was
actually growing, when therewere congregations splitting,
and more Kingdom Halls beingsplit.
And that it was becomingsomething amazing in the late
80s.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:22):
Yep, the late 80s, yeah.
The three-day quick deal.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:29):
Going

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:30):
in the open was so frustrating.
And now it's not anymore.
It's because all of the health

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:43):
tokens left.
Yeah, the ones now, you can justtell they have no backbone and
they have no substance.
They are weak.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:56):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:57):
Usually, I only have to say one or two things to
them, and they just, like,disappear and stop talking to
me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:04):
Well, it's all those folks and weirdos that are...

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:10):
Nobody

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:11):
wants to invite those people in for a viral
Friday

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:13):
Sunday.
When we were talking about...
Oh, being nice to them.
And, you know...
You said you're not mean tothem.
I try to be nice so that they'lllisten to me.

(01:01:33):
But if they say the wrongthing...
The other day, somebody saidsomething to me that pissed me
off so bad.
They commented on one of myposts.
And they said, don't blameJehovah.
Blame your parents for raisingyou wrong.
and i that i i got pissed i hadto take that one to the uh the

(01:01:54):
direct message and i i gave theman earful

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:58):
yeah yeah yeah

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:01):
well they are abusers

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:04):
yeah yeah yeah shut

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:13):
up

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:14):
I'm not gonna get into, like, okay.
You know, thousands of them.
Even, like, 4,875,000 at thispoint just from J.W.

(01:02:36):
Maxx fighting in my camp.
Not really the biggest bug, youknow.
And am I going to waste my timeon all those thousands of guys
trying to wake them up?
No.
It's pointless.

(01:02:57):
It's pointless.
Like, at some point, I had,like, a few hundred secret
readings of me trying to wakethem up, and it was so
perverted, and so every singleone of them ended up in a
marriage proposal.
Oh, my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:15):
Every

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:15):
single

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:16):
one.
Wow.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:19):
And then I'm wanting to come see me, and I'm like,
well, the only way to come seeme is if you wake up.
And the funny thing is that theywere willing in an instant to
throw the organization.
Just okay.

(01:03:40):
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:47):
I'm awake.
I'm awake.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:49):
I'm awake.
I'm awake.

UNKNOWN (01:03:49):
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:50):
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.
I'm awake.

UNKNOWN (01:03:56):
I'm awake.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:58):
It's like I would love to be trans.
But you can't be a

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:04):
widow.
Well, most witness men arewidows.
What?
Most Jehovah's Witness men arewidows.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:16):
They're like

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:17):
sexually suppressed and

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:21):
they're just weird.
Oh yeah.
They don't know how to askaround.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:27):
no

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:28):
that's a shame yeah yeah yeah well it's taught that
a male and a female can't befriends

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:45):
mhm yeah

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:46):
which means we can teach them that this is how
normal human beings

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:57):
Act.
I don't know.
We'll see.
When I was a teenager, I had alot of female friends.
Like, in a religion.
Like, in a religion, yeah.
I didn't want to hang withdudes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:12):
And that's why you went to a fellowship place.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:17):
No, but I know.
I didn't do anything with them.
I didn't do anything sexual withthem.
I just liked

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:23):
their

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:24):
company.
I just liked their company.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:27):
Mm-hmm.
And that's why I know you.
No, I knew you as a Jehovah'sWitness.
We knew each other.
You don't think I didn't knowMitch?
They're only trying to drive meto Tucson to be a sibling.

(01:05:48):
I want to go to Tucson to be asibling.
See if

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:01):
I can make your smurf move.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:04):
What?

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:07):
See if I can make your smurf move.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:10):
See?
Even when you guys wake up, theystill have zero games.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:20):
Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:22):
I'm protecting

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:35):
myself.
I can tell so many stories, butI'm not going to do that.
I'm protecting myself.
People think I'm good andinnocent, so...
I'll let them keep thinking it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:54):
When you raise your witness, you're not innocent.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:57):
No.
That's why I laugh at them.
I'm like, okay, you think I'minnocent.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:03):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:06):
Yeah.
No.
So many people, mainly guys,have told me after they get to
know me, man, you're prettycool.
Like, when I first met you, Ijust thought you were, like,
some nerdy guy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:18):
Yeah?
Yeah.
Oh, there's people I thinkyou're cool?

UNKNOWN (01:07:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:26):
I almost gave you the finger, but I'm like, oh! I
have to keep my good image.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:34):
Yeah.
I'm your co-host, and I've neveronce called you cool.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:41):
It's because we talk so much.
You're used to the coolness.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:46):
No.
I'm just teasing.
Oh, Mitch, you're so cool!You're so cool.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:54):
I don't need to hear that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:56):
No, I tell other people, I never say it to your
face.
It's like, you know.
I'm like, yeah, I can say it,you know, I just wash my
clothes, I mean, something.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:13):
You say that, huh?
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:16):
No, I say you're a big, giant dope.
Is that going to make peoplewatch?
Well,

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:27):
now you're telling me, you just said a few minutes
ago I'm not cool.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:32):
No, that's just because I like to pick on you.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:37):
Oh my goodness, man.
You still have the Jehovah'sWitness

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:43):
part before you get easily paranoid.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:48):
Oh my goodness.
No, I'm paranoid.

UNKNOWN (01:08:56):
Oh!

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:56):
He's so cool.
He's so cool.
He's so sweet on camera.
Let's say all the cool thingsabout Mitch to make his reasons
and to make himself feel better.
Mitch looks so sweet at 9o'clock in the morning.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:25):
It's nice, huh?

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:27):
Yeah, it is.
It is.
It's weird being in the city,you know.
At night.
Oh my

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:38):
goodness.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:40):
Poor Mitch.
You can cut this part out.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:45):
We keep everything.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:49):
Let's make a list of all the things that we should be
cool about.
You have cool headphones.
You have such cool headphones.
You have such cool headphones.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:01):
Glasses.
Why are you bothering me?

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:05):
You still

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:08):
got the cards?

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:11):
What?

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:12):
You still have those cards?

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:14):
Yes.
Yeah, do it again.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:17):
So you leave me alone.
That's bad when I want you toplay with the cards.
That's bad.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:24):
I know.
I know.
No, you like it.
He always turns you instantly.
You're addicted now, aren't you?
There you are.
You're addicted.
So I'm selling, everyone.
I'm selling something from eBay.

(01:10:44):
My old meeting clothes.
It's going to be a

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:58):
witness man ordered.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:59):
Yep, they're going to be collector's items.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:03):
And he's going to go to the shrine.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:06):
Yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh.
We like Smurf girls demonizeclothes.
Guaranteed, at Bethel Behind theScenes, they've got to shine.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:20):
Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:21):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I gave them a lot ofstuff.
Everything except the Smurf.
Do you know how much money theSmurfers were?
That's the original Smurf.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:35):
Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:38):
Are

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:38):
you ready?
Are you ready?
Are you ready for what?

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:41):
Oh, what question do you want to ask?

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:43):
What do you mean?
Ask the card.
I don't

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:48):
know.
Oh, I'm going to ask, is Mitchcool?
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.

UNKNOWN (01:12:03):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:04):
who will be able to work for it net net net net net
net it's it's it's it's it'sit's it's it's it's it's it's

(01:12:32):
it's Guess something.
Guess.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:44):
you'll pick judgment again.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:49):
It's

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:51):
like a theme, wouldn't it?
Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:57):
Hangman.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:58):
Hangman.
Not

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:02):
cool.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:02):
Oh, man.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:05):
Give you a few words.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:07):
Wow.
I know I'm cool, so there'sthat.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:14):
No, you're cool.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:16):
Mama told me to believe in myself.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:19):
I'm just teasing.
You know I'm teasing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:22):
I know you're teasing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:24):
No, it seems like you're teasing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:28):
No, no, that's That's

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:34):
not being lippy.
That's

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:50):
respect.
I don't know.
Was Mitch being respectful?

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:05):
Let me see.
I'm respectful to everyone.
Yeah, you are.
Uh-oh.
The Hermit.
That's

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:17):
you.
That's you.
I can't even do that.
I am

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:26):
a hermit.
Me

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:29):
too.
This is my

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:29):
hermit about.
My hermit co-host.
Hermit me.

UNKNOWN (01:14:40):
Hermit me.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:41):
That's like, sometimes I'm just like alone
and I'm just like, let me seewhat Rose is doing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:49):
I know, I know.
Nothing much.
Oh wait, I'm not a witch.
I'm a bitch.
I'm a bitch.
I'm a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:06):
You, you, like...
You give that persona, but Iknow you.
You're like a little teddy bear.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I'm a brass doll.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:20):
You what?

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:21):
I'm a brass doll.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:23):
For real.
For real.
That's accurate.
Even some of the pictures youmake, the art, you look like a
Bratz doll.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:36):
That's just me.
I didn't

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:39):
even make

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:40):
it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:40):
I'm like,

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:41):
hey, hey, hey, how do you depict me?
This.
Like, yeah.
So

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:51):
that I'm

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:52):
forced to dress that

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:53):
way.
I showed, uh, I showed mydaughter and her friend the
smurf picture you made of mewith the hat.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:05):
And the cigar.
Oh my god, they thought it wasthe coolest thing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:09):
Really?

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:10):
Oh yeah.
Does

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:12):
that mean I'm cool?

UNKNOWN (01:16:14):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:14):
I told him you made it.
Okay, you want to know how youcame up?
Okay.
I was out on the patio justchilling, relaxing, smoking my
cigar, and her and her friendcame out, and you know, can we
sit with you?
And I'm like, yeah, I don'tcare.
And her friend just looked atme, and she was like, who's

(01:16:35):
Smurf girl?
And I just, like, smoked out ofmy mouth laughing, and I'm like,
what do you mean?
Like, why are you asking methat?
Remember, I like last week Ishowed you the graphic I wanted
but I jotted it down on mynotebook and sent you a picture
of the diagram and the tree Iwanted and everything so on the

(01:16:56):
one on the left she wasapparently being nosy and read
it and she said they caught herattention that I wrote Smurf
Girl so she wanted to know allabout it so I ended up telling
her all kind of stuff and I waslike she made me a smurf and I
showed them and they went crazy

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:13):
that was just

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:14):
amazing Oh, yeah, that was Wednesday night.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:18):
Cool.
Waking up.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:21):
Oh, my daughter, she's not in it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:25):
Good, good.
Good, good, too.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:30):
Now she has a girlfriend.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:33):
Oh, yeah.
That's got to be.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:38):
I told her I'd rather have a girl than a
boyfriend.
I told her guys are yucky.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:46):
You didn't mean that yucky, right?
What'd you do?
What'd you do?
It's like, no, Dad says, guys,you have to be happy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:11):
I told her that I'd rather her be with a female.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:14):
Yeah?

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:18):
No, she...

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:19):
She told us about, uh...
I don't know, like, almost twoyears ago.
Yeah, she told us.
And, uh...
Like, you know, we were stillin.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and I...
I told them just me personally.
Like, I couldn't...

(01:18:39):
I can't stop talking to my kids.
Like, no matter what they did, Itold her I would always talk to
you.
Because that was her problem.
Like, what would you do if itold you i was different like
that with my sexuality and thenyeah and i was like fully in i
was a ministerial servant and iyeah i told her i can't stop

(01:19:02):
talking to my kids that's justnot

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:05):
life is about you know

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:22):
yeah

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:24):
i don't know yeah yeah we were told so much that
we were supposed to be thatwe're just we are yeah and if

(01:19:45):
she's she's Dress up like a

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:50):
witch.
Oh my

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:52):
goodness.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:55):
She...
Whatever

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:57):
she wants.
She

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:59):
does.
She dresses like an evil clown.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:03):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:04):
I'm going to try to find this picture real quick.
But she...
Like her and one of her friends,that's what they do.
They'll go to the mall, butthey'll be fully dressed in like
cosplay.
So one day, she did not tell me.
Because of what happened when Iwas young, it was like this
serial killer in the Chicagoarea, and he dressed as a clown.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:29):
Oh!

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:30):
Yeah, I hate clowns.
And so she did not tell me shewas dressing as one that day.
She asked me, can you take me tomy friends.
I'm like, sure.
I had to go with her.
She's in the car, and she's infull clown mode.
She did it on purpose to botherme.

(01:20:51):
I'm trying to find a picture,but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:55):
John Wayne Casey.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:57):
Ah, he scared the crap out of me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:00):
Yeah.
And it was also because it wasso ugly.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:04):
Yeah.
I was in the Chicago area whenthat happened, and yeah, Yeah,
all of the kids my age, we werejust terrified.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:11):
Imagine having to coach folks in the same bed with
your dad.
You're going and sticking injail for an overnight visit.

(01:21:32):
That's not so safe.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:34):
Yeah.
I'm determined to find thispicture.
But, yeah, I'm laughing, becausewhen you said cosplay, that is
her.
Like, she likes to do that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:48):
That's true, yeah.
Mine does, too.
She likes, um, the...

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:58):
The what?
Like, Tsubasa.
I don't even get it.
I feel like a

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:01):
nerd.
She likes all that.
We went to Comic-Con.
Like, can you imagine me goingto Comic-Con?

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:13):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:14):
And Baby Smurf is dressed all up.
Forget what it was.
Like, something like Ira.
something like that.
Oh, and then Assassin's Creed.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:30):
Oh, I like that game.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:33):
Smurf rolling baby Smurf.
Dress up all Assassin's Creed.
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:41):
Wow.
If people would have

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:46):
known.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:47):
Okay, here it is.
Hopefully you can see it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:55):
Oh, how cute.
I love it.
I want to come and dress up withher.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:02):
You think you're going to come

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:05):
dress up with her?
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:08):
What would you be?

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:11):
A comic.
I'd dress up all crazy TedBundy.
I'd just be myself.
I am Comic-Con.
I am just Comic-Con myself.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:26):
When you said that, I was like, oh, it's a normal
day.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:32):
A normal day.
It's a normal day.
Who's the actor that plays theanimal lector?

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:44):
Oh, uh...
Anthony Hopkins.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:47):
Yeah, it's like him walking to Comic-Con.
Like, what are you going todress up as, Anthony?
You'll be like, I'm going topose myself.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:58):
Or like the guy who played Freddy Krueger.

UNKNOWN (01:24:01):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:02):
Yo buddy

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:29):
Sanderson

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:31):
You know he likes comic books.
You know he does.
You know he's totally into StarWars, Star Trek, Deep Space
Nine, Dungeons and Dragons,

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:50):
Pokemon.
I can kind of see it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:53):
He's got pogs in his wallet.
I remember there was a joke, ohmy god, where he was like in his
20s, like 27, and I said, Isaid, I said, I said, I said, I

(01:25:20):
said, I said, I said, And itwas.
No.
And it was like several pogs.
It was like his favorite

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:40):
pog.
Oh my

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:41):
goodness.
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:48):
Oh, boy.
That is

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:50):
true.
Because everybody thought MarkSanderson carries a condom in
his wallet.
And I was like, no.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:00):
That's his favorite pod.
I wasn't...
When you were saying all thisstuff about it, I wasn't
believing it until you just saidthat.
What?
When you were asking me, youknow, can't you see Mark being
into this or into this, I waslike, ah, but then now that you

(01:26:22):
tell me that, I'm

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:24):
like, yeah.
Oh, man.
Of the way I tease you, youdon't think I didn't tease you
growing up?

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:34):
Now I feel better.
I feel better now.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:37):
Yeah.
I tease you just like I teasehim.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:42):
That mean you know I'm cool.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:44):
Yeah, you're cool.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:56):
Oh, man.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:58):
Well, anyway, it's been an hour and a half.
That's Swash or Dark.
We're done.
Another show.
Under our belt.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:07):
That was number seven.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:09):
seven lucky

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:11):
seven we have to do something special for the tenth
one

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:15):
okay okay i'll think of

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:17):
something yeah think of something

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:20):
we'll dress up oh wait oh yeah yeah can

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:33):
you see it

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:37):
And look, look at this.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:45):
Cute.
So where can they get that?

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:50):
They can order it through me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:52):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:53):
They can order it through me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:55):
I'm going to try to design some washers.
Yes.
That'll

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:58):
be good.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:01):
That'll be good.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:03):
I would wear you on my chest.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:05):
all right i appreciate them they made me who
i am today if it wasn't for the81 i would have never survived

(01:28:34):
Because my uncle Ricky, who wasa part of the 81, he would walk
around with a great army jacket,like hats, leather bags, stuff
like that.
And he would come to the meetingwith his big black boots on.
And I just thought that was thecoolest thing.

(01:28:54):
So I dressed up as Uncle Ricky.
Uncle Ricky! Uncle Ricky! And itHmm, okay.

(01:29:32):
And so when I break the record,I expect all the people behind
me to be held accountable.
Or anybody else to be there.
Okay.
Be great.
Well, anyway, thanks, Mitch.
So how can everybody find you?

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:55):
Just type in on any social media, XJW, EXJWB.
Okay,

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:03):
yeah, but it's right here.
Right on it.
I'm those buddies.
You can find us on all of us.
Google us.
That's the thing.
Google both of us.

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:19):
We're Google-able.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:21):
Yep, we are.
Oh, goodness.
We're Google-able.
You made it, Mary Tyler Moore.
You're Google-able.

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:32):
For real.
And for me to be Google-ablealongside you, it's an honor.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:39):
Yep.
It is.
No, for me to be Google-ablewith you, we're a team.

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:49):
We are a team.
That deserves a fifth ball.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:54):
Love you, Mitch.

SPEAKER_00 (01:30:58):
Love you, too.
All right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:00):
Good night, everybody.
Have a great one.
This is Wash, Wash, YourDarkness.
Love you.
Have a good one.
Bye,

SPEAKER_00 (01:31:10):
Mitch.

UNKNOWN (01:31:12):
Bye.
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