April 22, 2025 • 36 mins
The digital world demands our attention as both wireless professionals and responsible individuals navigating increasingly complex technology landscapes. Drew Lentz dives into this fascinating territory, balancing nostalgic wireless technologies with cutting-edge innovations that challenge how we think about connectivity.
The episode kicks off with exciting news about upcoming giveaways, including a professional-grade NetAlly AirCheck G3. Drew shares a powerful personal moment about digital parenting after watching Netflix's "Adolescence" series, which prompted him to strengthen digital safeguards for his children using monitoring services like Bark. His candid discussion about parental vigilance in the age of online predators serves as a sobering reminder that even tech experts must remain alert to digital dangers.
Nostalgia takes center stage as Drew showcases his classic Cobra 29 CB radio, explaining how films like "Smokey and the Bandit" and "Pump Up the Volume" sparked his lifelong passion for wireless communications. This leads to a compelling argument for wireless professionals to obtain amateur radio licenses, which teach fundamental RF principles that enhance Wi-Fi expertise.
The conversation shifts to viral phenomena and emerging technologies, including the aluminum foil Wi-Fi hack that's gained over 33 million views online. Drew critically examines this simplistic approach while acknowledging the basic science behind it. He also explores fascinating developments like Carnegie Mellon's Wi-Fi imaging technology and Clueley's controversial smart glasses that provide real-time information during conversations – raising important questions about privacy, ethics, and practical applications beyond their marketed use.
Before wrapping up with information about industry events like the Wi-Fi Now Global Congress and WICO gatherings, Drew emphasizes the importance of community engagement. He encourages listeners to share their wireless expertise locally, particularly regarding security concerns that often go overlooked.
Subscribe to our channel and join us live next week for a chance to win that NetAlly AirCheck G3! The Wireless Nerd community continues to grow, and we'd love to see you become part of our ongoing conversation about the technology that connects our world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everybody?
It's Drew Lentz, the WirelessNerd, coming in with a cold cut,
starting the podcast today forApril 22nd.
We just had a really fun timetesting out a new mechanism on
our YouTube page.
Thank you to everyone.
Bradley, thank you for winningthe non-raffle.
I really appreciate it.
What we're going to start doingis giving stuff away, because I
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have a lot of stuff and I wantto give it away and because some
of my fine sponsors that areout there and some of the people
that have supported the showfor a real long time are totally
down to give stuff away, and sothat's what we're going to do.
Man, maybe we'll do it today,at the end of the show, maybe
we'll wait till the next one,but we've got some really cool
stuff that we want to be able tostart giving away, and the
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first thing that we're going togive away is a NetAlly AirCheck
G3, courtesy of the fine folksover at NetAlly, mr Julio and Mr
Dan.
If you guys happen to be at theWi-Fi Now Global Congress, stop
by and say hi to them.
If you're at RSAC, stop by andsay hi to them as well.
Netally always coming throughclutch, making incredible tools,
and this time they're going tostart letting me hand some of
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the stuff out.
So very cool to have thatpartnership with them and be
able to support them, gettingsome new tools in your hands.
They also make a whole lot ofreally cool other stuff and you
never know what's going to showup.
So get familiar with theirproduct line, get familiar with
their features and what they do,and we'll be giving out a
NetAlly AirCheck G3 probablynext week Unless out a NetAlly
AirCheck G3 probably next weekUnless.
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Like if I get like 80 viewersright now, maybe we'll give it
out.
But I mean you guys,unfortunately you guys are the
guinea pigs.
So if you're listening anywhereelse, make sure you watch the
Waves podcast at youtubecom,slash at wireless nerd or go to
the wireless podcastcom.
There's a link in there.
But the only way that you canbe participatory in this is by
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joining the live chat in ourYouTube channel so that I can
say things like what's up chat,it's Drew the wireless nerd and
I can sound like all the peoplethat my kids listen to.
Hey, man, speaking of notwireless related, but total
parenting moment man we had, youknow, I don't know if you've
watched that Netflix special orthe Netflix show that's out
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right now about the little kidsand the effects of what's going
on, you know, with social mediaand everything and how it's
affecting teenagers.
But there's a good show.
Can't remember the name of itright off the top of my head,
you know, obviously, because nowthat I am older, things like
that happen.
Someone's going to mention ithere in the chat in just a
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second, but it's a Netflixspecial.
It's about a child in the UKand they get in trouble.
It's called Adolescence is thename of it, and it's a four-part
series and it was really cooland really eye opening just then
.
Terrifying, as a parent, youknow.
And then we had this moment withour kids where we had to lock
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everything down.
So you know, we've had itlocked down in the past.
Then we got a little lax.
I mean, dude, we're just, we'rejust human right.
And then we had to turn around.
We're like, no, we got to startlocking everything back down on
the kiddos and so they're not asponsor.
And you know, I don't.
I think I made a referral foryou one time, but I can't
recommend Bark enough man forwhat they do and it's just.
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It's it's peace of mind morethan anything for a parent, but,
having watched that movie andseeing what's going on with
social media, definitely wantedto do that.
Because, dude, the stuff thatmy kid listens to on YouTube,
you know, it's like one dayeverything's fine, it's funny,
and we're watching, you know,videos of dogs and cats, and
then the next minute it's likelike terrifying.
So, as much as we are, all youknow, anyone listening to this
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probably is involved intechnology.
You know, don't forget, dude,don't forget to turn around,
because as much as we'recomfortable with it, maybe kids
aren't that comfortable with itand there's a lot of stuff that
goes on.
You know, there was just a dealhappened with someone who met
on Roblox and got abducted, andso I mean, you can never be too
vigilant, I guess, is my point.
So make sure you take a look atthat Bark, very, very cool
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product for parents.
So what's going on, man?
Well, you know, we just wepushed one of these out last
week.
We had some really coolannouncements.
I have some sick sponsors nowso excited, not just in the
ability to give stuff away likewe just kind of did we didn't
really give anything away, but Imean we tested out the
functionality and the mechanismto give stuff away.
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So pretty soon we'll startreally giving some stuff away,
starting with the next show, forsure.
Pretty soon we'll start reallygiving some stuff away, starting
with the next show, for sure,we're going to start giving out
some freebies to people thatlisten.
So I would encourage you tojump online, drop me a message
or a comment, tell me about thestuff that you want.
I'll look through my office ifI have something that you like
that I can give away.
Then, man, by all means, Ithink one of the things I am
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going to give away because Ihave a set of them here, check
it out.
This one's not even open yet,but this is a halo link from
morse micro.
So this is a wi-fi halo, stillnew, uh, unopened.
That's something we candefinitely put in the pool.
Um, you know, what I'm notgoing to give away is is some of
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my radios, like my radio radios.
Check this out.
Had a moment with the kid theother night.
They didn't have school onMonday, so Sunday night we
decided to watch a movie and I,you know, judge my parenting
later, but I put on one of myfavorite movies that got me
interested in wirelesscommunications in the first
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place, and then I had to bustout all my gear the first place
and then I had to bust out on mygear.
There she goes, you guys readyfor this?
Look, look at this man, thecobra 29 classic.
Oh yes, we watched smoky andthe bandit the other night and
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we got to learn all about CBlingo.
Hey, snowman, you got your earson this bandit?
Come back, it's good stuff.
So we had a whole conversationabout CB radios and I had to go
find mine.
Man, and I remember the firsttime that I messed with CB I was
in Simi Valley, california,riding around in a truck with a
bunch of us, this guy named Tony, who had this cool little
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Toyota I guess it was a Tacoma.
It was that little truck likethe one in Back to the Future,
and he had a big old whipantenna on it and I thought it
was so cool because he couldtalk to people from all over
Simi Valley on his little CBradio and they had all these
weird things that they'd say toeach other and they'd have these
little music notes that theywould play in the background and
it was pretty awesome.
So thinking about that man gotme busting out the cb radio, and
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so I'm driving a ford f-150lightning right now and
unfortunately there's nowhere toput the cb radio yet.
But I'm pretty sure I'm gonnafind a place to stick this bad
boy and plug it in and turn iton.
Man, I got this at a pawn shopfor 36 bucks that crazy.
Anyway, I'll stick one thewife's car just for good measure
.
Anyway, are you a cb here?
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If you, if cb is in your blood,man, let me know.
Mark I I I have a feeling Iknow the answer to this with
mark bender sounds like a cbradio enthusiast also.
So if you do, uh, if you'veever done cb man, drop me a note
.
It's pretty crazy, I think it's.
I think it's neat, fun way tostart with with wireless from
back in the Anyway.
So we're watching smoking thebandit.
Talking about that, you knowthere were a couple of movies
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that stood out in my childhoodthat made me really like want to
get involved in wirelesscommunications.
Uh, you know, smoking thebandit convoy.
Uh, you know, cannonball run.
These are some good ones, uh,but pump up up the volume.
That's a movie that really gotme interested in radio.
It got me interested in djing,got me interested in talking on
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the mic.
It got me interested in how touse signals to you know, to
break into stuff or throw peopleoff your track.
So pump up the volume was apretty good one that I liked
also anyway.
So I had some cool momentsthere with a little, with the
little kiddos showing, showingthem.
You know some movies that Ireally enjoyed.
Mark says you need to take thetest Starting to get your ham.
Yeah, man, I mean it's.
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It's my books are outdated here, but but definitely go check
out the ARRL and and get theirlatest manuals.
It's not that difficult to takethe test for ham operators.
You can get your basic, you canget your technician license, no
problem.
It's a lot of math.
But for people like us who arein the wireless industry, first
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of all I would say you totallyshould have it.
If you're doing anything withwireless and you're seriously
doing it, you should absolutelyhave an operator's license
because there's things that itteaches you and things that you
can understand from doing itthat you might not even think
about on a day-to-day basis.
You know it's a lot of math,it's a lot of science, it's
Ohm's law Like you got no Ohm'slaw inside and out, I just
remember that.
But learning how to build anantenna and learning what visor
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is and learning all these thingsthat make a difference.
Even if people don't think wifiis as RF technical you know
technical as it is.
It's great to have a hamoperators license and I tell you
I put it, I haven't had abusiness card in a minute, but I
put it on all my business cardsand when you hand that to
someone or you've got your callsign or it's on your license
plate on your truck, whatever itis, it's like instant aha, you
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know, instant recognition.
So I would definitely encourageyou to visit ARRLorg, learn
about becoming a ham operator,take the test.
I mean we really need to do oneof the things we need to do at
WLPC is we need to have a hammeetup.
Man, we need to have like aswap meet and a meetup there for
hams.
I don't know why we haven'tdone that yet Like a little mini
field day.
That would be really fun.
There's a lot of stuff I'vealways wanted to do at WLPC.
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Like it's a perfect grounds fordoing just nerd stuff like this
.
So maybe this year, if enoughof us hams get together, we can.
We can have some fun and maybewe can do a study, a study class
or study group.
Maybe we need to cranksomething up on the on the
wireless land pros chat and seeif we can do that.
But if you're not an amateurradio operator, uh, definitely
encourage you to become one.
And I definitely encourage youto take part in Aegis and take
part in disaster recovery andthe things that amateur radios
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do with that.
It's special to me because Ilive down here on the Gulf Coast
.
Shout out to the RGV AmateurRadio Club.
Our amateur radio clubmobilizes whenever something
happens.
I've got a Kenwood TS2000 that Ibought on eBay a while back and
a great little Astron powersupply for it and the radio
stays off a lot.
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But the second that there's anystorm or the second that
there's weather, or maybe on aTuesday night at 7pm for a rag
chew, the radio comes on and thekids get such a kick out of it
because the second weather hits,radio flips on and throughout
the whole house all you hear isall the chatter going back and
forth from all the hams, given,you know, status updates and
situation updates and thingslike that.
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So it's super fun to nerd out.
If you're into wireless, listen.
This is the Waves podcast.
I am a wireless nerd so I don'tknow what you're expecting to
hear.
But if you're going like, oh myGod, this guy's getting kind of
knee deep in it, this isexactly the kind of stuff and
the reason that I do what I do.
So plug it in, turn it on, havea good time, learn how to be a
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ham man Really really cool stuff.
Now let's talk about things thatare going on in the industry,
because there's a couple deals.
There's a couple, a coupledeals.
The first thing that I want toreference here.
I've seen this a couple oftimes and you know it.
If I had a minute today, what Iwas going to do is set
something up on my kitchen tableand see say honestly, see if it
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worked.
I mean theoretically, inscience there's, there's things
about it that should work butdoesn doesn't make it better.
Of course, I'm talking aboutthe aluminum foil Wi-Fi hack
that's blowing people's mind.
Let me see if I can share myscreen out here.
Y'all ready for this?
Here it is this viral aluminumfoil Wi-Fi hack is blowing
people's mind, but does itactually work?
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So this article has beenpublished in a couple of
different places and this personhas a little NiteGear Nighthawk
inside.
It looks like in a couple ofdifferent places, and this
person has a little NetgearNighthawk inside.
Looks like half of a boxcovered in aluminum foil.
I don't doubt that there's goingto be an increase in signal.
I reached out to Firas If youguys know Firas I was like bro,
you need to totally do thisbecause he has all the crazy
equipment.
But then I turned around andlooked.
I'm like dude, I've stuff thatcan measure these signals.
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Why not try it?
So I didn't have a chance to doit today, but I'm definitely
looking forward to someone who'sa little bit more excited about
these things to try this out.
I really want to see if thisworks and to what extent,
because, as you know, the secondsomething like this gets out on
the internet.
People all over the world startto consume it, and by that, if
you look at this, a tweet fromthis person showing Wi-Fi
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routers surrounded by aluminumfoils racked up over 33 million
views.
That's 33 million people thatwe're gonna have to troubleshoot
.
Y'all know that right.
So people swearing, theirsignal strength improved
instantly.
And there it is Put an aluminumfoil behind your Wi-Fi router.
Thank me later.
Oh, oh man, this is going to beuh, this is going to be some
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fun tech support, but thescience behind it talks about
signal reflector being betterfrom walls.
So what I am curious about isthe effects of mimo in this with
multipath.
But let's just see.
Um, anyway, if anyone has donethis, let me know.
Man, post your results online.
Let's find out what's uh,what's happening with it,
because this is hilarious andfun both at the same time.
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Let's see what else we gotgoing on.
So I'm going to close thatwindow on to the next one and
the famous words of jay-z.
This popped up, which issomething that that came out
before, and I've seen thisarticle.
You know this was published, Ithink, like 10 years ago, maybe
O23 Ecotech, and this was a dealthat they were talking about at
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Carnegie Mellon University.
Oh, it was two years ago, threeyears ago, and we talked about
this actually on the show, andwhat they did is they took a
camera on one side and a Wi-Fi.
You know, according to them, Ithink it was an off-the-shelf
Wi-Fi router on the other sideand they had it match up so when
someone would walk in the room,the camera would focus on the
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person and show the person andthat would teach the Wi-Fi
router to you know reflectivesignals, understand what it saw
basically using Wi-Fi like LiDAR, and it worked pretty well.
On the left-hand side is whatyou see as a combination of the
two images.
On the right-hand side is whatyou see just from the RF
signature of it, and they did alive demo of it and if you
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scroll through on Instagram youcan see what the live demo is
here.
Yeah, so this guy's explainingexactly what I just said.
I can't fast-forward that, butyou get the idea.
But this came back up and I justwanted to bring it up because,
if you hadn't seen this already,there's lots of talk about
Wi-Fi imaging and about Wi-Fisensing.
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That came up last year at Wi-FiNow, at the Wi-Fi Now Global
Congress, and that's coming backup again next week, and so I
don't know if anybody's going tobe there talking about Wi-Fi
sensing again, but if they are,I thought I'd bring it up just
in case anyone knows if there'sany.
Has there been any new movementon it?
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I haven't seen any productreleases or anything that's
coming out, but it's definitelyan interesting use of the
technology to me, using Wi-Fi tounderstand who's where and what
they're doing, but it didsurface itself again, and this
time on digital camera world.
So you know, you never know,but this is what people are
gonna be talking about.
Let's see On to the next one.
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What's the next article?
We got Columbia studentssuspended over interview
cheating tool.
Okay, so, man, this is nuts.
Clueley was announced and this21-year-old dude over here, roy
Lee, announced he's raised $5.3million in seed funding.
Oops, there we go.
Let me show my screen $5.3million in seed funding from
Abstract Ventures and SousaVentures for a startup called
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Clueley.
I would encourage you to lookat their social media and look
at the commercial that they madeand what they're what they're
doing with it, because it's apretty cool commercial.
So I'm underscore Roy,underscore.
Lee has the, the video on thereand he's he's gotten just a ton,
a ton of traffic.
I think if we click through onhis name, you can see some of
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the stuff that's on here.
He mentioned that that it's hadjust an insane amount of views.
Clueless, I'm cheating oneverything.
There we go 10 million views intwo days, 80,000 on X in three
months.
This is a pretty wild thing tothink about.
So what he did is he wrote aprogram that allows him to use
smart glasses to have interviewquestions.
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Someone would ask an interviewquestion and the glasses would
listen and it would displaywhatever the results are.
Now he did this on his browser.
Right, he did this on a webbrowser and he goes on to show,
if you dig through his socialmedia, how you can't stop this
from happening on a browser.
There's no way to detect it orwhatever else.
But his idea was to cheatthrough job interviews and he
ended up getting something likefour or five job offers total
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worth $600,000, I think is whathe said and it gives him the
ability to interpret what'sgoing on.
So this takes it a step further.
Right In this you've got smartglasses with active listening
and they're displaying real-timedata on his glasses.
And here he's trying to winover the heart of a young lady
at a dinner date.
In the video you can see righthere on your screen that's what
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he's doing and she actuallybusts him.
But the idea isn't just that.
Right, it's a funny take on it,but if you stop and you think
about the real-worldimplications of what's going on
here and what Clulee can bring,it's something that I find
actually exciting.
Now, again, this is like takeall the privacy stuff and don't
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focus on that.
Think about what the usabilityof this is in an environment
where data is secure and private.
And I was talking to my wifeabout it, because my wife does
insurance right and insurance.
You have contract aftercontract.
You have all this data.
You have all the informationabout the businesses and what
they do and what their annualearnings are, and their
quarterly reports and everythingelse.
Imagine if you're sitting in ameeting with someone like your
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insurance agent and they havethese glasses on and, as you're
talking to them, you can askthem any single question about
anything that they're doing andI don't mean like the normal
stuff that they should know, Imean like crazy obscure things
and having that information attheir fingertips where they
don't have to fumble throughpapers and look anything up.
Now apply that further on, andwhat I've always wanted to see
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and again, this is the totalopt-in thing what I've always
wanted to see is the smartglasses that I can put on in a
conference and when I walk upand shake your hand, it scans
your face If you've opted in forit.
It shows me your LinkedInprofile and where you've been
and who you are, and it shows mewhere you've worked and it
shows your social media oranything else that you've opted
into, so that I can so I canunderstand who it is I'm talking
to.
Granted lots of privacy andsecurity implications there.
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Totally understand that, butfrom an opt-in perspective, man,
I think that that would bepretty insane.
It would be crazy to see thatas a lawyer.
For example.
Imagine a lawyer wearingsomething like this in court and
having instant access on theirglasses to every single court
case while they're sitting theretrying to argue for something.
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That would be pretty involved.
There's lots of uses for this,and so what he's teasing out is
the ability to quote unquotecheat on anything, and I find
that to be absolutelyfascinating because it's not
about faking a job interview.
It's about leveraging data andthe massive amounts of data that
we have and presenting it in away that it hasn't been
presented before.
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So I'm keen to see what happenswith that.
Again, privacy huge thing goingon there, but at the same time,
if you can do that in a waythat protects that privacy, then
that could be pretty awesome.
Now, as long as we're goingdown that path and you can see
that B&H puts up advertisementsall over everything for me, so
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nice.
Jj just posted something.
Jj Manella, I'm hoping you knowJJ if you're listening to this
podcast.
Jj is a big rock star in theWi-Fi industry with.
She posted something that wasfunny on LinkedIn and I
commented back.
I know that you've seen thisright, jj, because Sam Altman is
saying that people sayingplease and thank you to ChatGPT
is wasting millions of dollarsin compute power.
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It's the computer.
You don't really have to bequite nice to it, you know, and
I don't think you're going toearn brownie points for being
nice to it and it's not going tochange the function if you're
nice or if you're mean to it.
I'm not saying be mean to thecomputer, but your robot
overlords don't seem to have anyfeelings and that's not
necessarily a bad thing.
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So using polite language sets atone for the response.
However, it'll be polite back.
But generative AI also mirrorsa level of professionalism,
clarity and detail that youprovide, but it's not
necessarily going to change whatthe output is.
So that was pretty interestingto see.
Another story coming up withChatGPT and this is kind of
creepy.
This hasn't happened to me yetis that ChatGPT is referring to
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users by their names unprompted.
You know that's kind of weird.
It hasn't done that to me yetand I'm a pro user on it.
So maybe, maybe I'm just notasking it the right questions.
I'm asking it to like make melook like an action figure or
create a create an image for apodcast.
So it's not, maybe it's maybeI'm not the right demographic,
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uh, but you know, we can try itout and see what happens.
What else do we have going onhere?
This, okay, out of curiosity, Isaw.
What else do we have going onhere?
This, okay, out of curiosity, Isaw.
I worked with someone who usedthis tool and I wanted to ask
anyone if they had seen this,this actual tool, so what it has
right here.
If you look at it, it's aKeystone Terminator by True
Cable and I saw it and it workedreally, really well and that's
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it.
That's like that's all I got.
It doesn't really have anythingto do with wireless, unless
you're plugging wireless stuffin.
However, uh, does anybody haveany experience with this?
Because if you do, let me know.
I I used it once.
I was like man, is thissomething I should buy?
So I thought I would bring thatup.
What else we got?
Scientists have hijacked thehuman eye to get to see a brand
new color.
It's called olo I'm.
I would love to see what a newcolor looks like, but apparently
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the only way to see it let'ssee if it's in here is you have
to shoot a laser beam directlyinto your eye.
So maybe I don't want to seethe color that bad.
Um, blue green, blue green ofunprecedented saturation isn't
that crazy?
So apparently, in order to seeit though you've got to you've
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got to shoot a laser beam rightinto your eye.
Again, nothing to do withwireless.
Definitely found thatfascinating.
Now this has a lot to do withwireless and I also found this
fascinating.
I don't know if I'm sure you allhave met Anil.
If you've listened to thepodcast, you've seen that we
interviewed on him.
Anil is one of the co-foundersand CEO of Meter.
If you've listened to thepodcast, you've seen that we
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interviewed on him.
Anil is one of the co-foundersand CEO of Meter, who's one of
the fine, fine sponsors here atthe Waves podcast, and this is
not me going out.
I would have posted this, nomatter if they're a sponsor or
not.
Check this out If you guys knowanyone who's into machine
learning.
Anil posted this on Twitteryesterday.
I believe he said Meter'sbuilding one of the most
ambitious projects an AI, fullyautonomous network and they're
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growing their team.
If you know anyone and theyhire them, he'll give you 20
grand Anil.
What do I get for referringpeople to refer to you?
I'm just saying I mean, let'sgo ahead and put that out there,
but I thought that that waspretty neat.
So if you all know anyonethat's interested, look up Anil.
His X handle is at ACV, or findthe folks at Meter or reach out
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to me.
If you know anyone who'sinterested, he's got a finder's
fee in there for you, which ispretty cool, so I figured I
would pass that on.
This might be a little bitbroader of an audience than
someone who just reads a tweetevery once in a while.
So if you know anyone who'sinterested, visit meterai, look
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up Anil at ACV, send me amessage, whatever it is.
Let's get you in touch with theright people If you know
someone who's interested inbuilding that, because that
would be a really cool.
Plus 20 grand.
So you got that going for you.
Kuiper one ULA is a set tolaunch the first operational
satellites for project Kuiper.
Very cool, I'm interested inthis for a whole bunch of
reasons, I'm sure, as you know.
You know, just, uh, you, if youdon know, what I do during my
day job is I work for a companycalled Eero.
This is an Amazon company, soI'm keenly interested in how the
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whole atmosphere of everythingthat's going on at Amazon is
doing.
And this is really neat, not tosay that any comments or things
that I say are mine and mineonly.
They don't represent anythingof the people that I work for,
so let's go ahead and make thatclear.
But this is really neat eitherway, because this is a new LEO
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project that's going up.
Kuiper 1 is going from SpaceLaunch Complex 41 at Cape
Canaveral.
Wednesday April 9th is when itlaunched and everything's up
there.
Man, pretty awesome.
March 31st kuiper one satelliteprocessing.
So keep your eye on what'sgoing on there.
And uh, and this is pretty neat, man, this is really cool to
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see.
So more low earth orbitingsatellites, more stuff happening
in the atmosphere.
Let's see, all right on toevents, what kind of events we
got going on right now.
Look at this.
This is pretty cool.
So shout out to the, to theposse over at waiko um, waiko,
toronto is sold out.
That's awesome, uh,congratulations getting the
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sellout audience there.
There's a lot of other waikoevents coming up the wireless
community, this fancy elephant,uh, that mr peter mckinsey
probably drew on a napkin andthen, you know, turned into a
logo, maybe not, I don't knowhow they came up with it, but
waiko and peter and all theseevents are going on.
This is so neat, man.
It's so neat to see right here,um, that norway, tullinore,
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north carolina, at the botanicalgardens, philly is coming up on
the 15th of may, nashville onmay 29th, bordeaux, france, on
july 3rd, um, the bay area, ncexperts doing one in the bay
area on the 7th of july, andthen the waiku conference in
london.
This is going to be the big one.
This one's going to be really,really cool.
So this, if you got any, ifyou're going to be out there in
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september, this is the one thatyou want to go to, uh, to really
bring everything together.
And then the 2nd of October inMontreal and the 20th of
November in the Netherlands.
So WICO is all over the placeand what we need to do is we
need to bring some of the teamon from WICO so that they can
talk about this.
Wico is a lot of sessionsspecifically around what we're
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using as a community, whetherit's tools, whether it's tricks,
whether it's knowledge.
Wico is like a small, localizedversion of WLPC, hitting every
single one of these areas.
So the big events, like theWICO conference in the UK, the
WLPC in Phoenix, the WLPC inPrague, those are the big events
, right, those are the big daddyevents where everything happens
, but WICO breaks it out intothese sessions that bring it to
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your door, that bring it closerto you.
So if you're not, if youhaven't gone to a WICO event and
one is coming relatively closeto you, I would make every
effort that you can to attend.
You get to see some incrediblespeakers.
It's a lot of people that youknow from the industry, a lot of
people that you've seen andheard.
Maybe you don't know thempersonally, but here you might
get a chance to do that.
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Speaking of other events, as Imentioned, the Wi-Fi Now World
Congress is coming up next week,april 28th through 30th.
This is going to be in MountainView, california, co-located
with the Wi-Fi Halo GlobalSummit and the Open Wi-Fi Global
Summit.
Klaus again puts together justthe slate.
I mean, these are the peoplethat you want to hear from about
what's happening in theindustry and what's going on,
and they're all going to bethere.
Look through it.
You know they're all going tobe there and it's a very cool
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conference where you get to getface-to-face and you get to
shake hands with a lot of thesepeople.
You get to get to know thempersonally and you get to hear
what they're doing and what'shappening in their organizations
.
Very cool group of peoplethat's going to be there.
So I would encourage you,please tune in, or tune in,
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please show up and take a lookat what's happening.
I think there's still ways thatyou can buy tickets to register
for it.
So visit wifi now, globalcom.
You can learn more about what'sgoing on there.
Also coming up very soon on theheels of that, may 19th and 22nd
, is the wgc americas withwireless, the wireless global
congress.
I will be out speaking at thisone talking about smart
communities.
So if you're close to Dallas,may 19th through May 22nd, this
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is a really fun one.
Now there is some carryoverfrom content between the two
conferences.
You'll hear it first at Wi-FiNow and then WBA will have some
of the same speakers talkingabout some of the same things.
But the way to think about.
It is Wi-Fi Now, in my opinion,right, this isn't the official
opinion of either one of these,but in my opinion, basically
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Wi-Fi Now is where you get allthe leaders together to talk
about what's happening in theindustry.
It's more of a corporate feel,more of a you know from the
captain's observatory pointwhere the ship is going.
Wba does a really good job ofidentifying what people are
doing with Wi-Fi, how they'reusing Wi-Fi Now, wi-fi, the
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Wi-Fi Alliance, kevin and theteam Consuelo and the team at
the Wi-Fi Alliance.
What they do is they make surethat the standards are being met
, the Wi-Fi gear is beingproduced.
They help support the industryand make the industry move
forward.
But WBA is like how do we dothings using Wi-Fi, in my
opinion?
And then Wi-Fi now is these arethe people that are doing
things with Wi-Fi and how youshould listen to them.
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So there's this really coolcarryover between the three.
I expect to hear a lot aboutopen roaming and what's been
going on with open roaming,what's been happening with
American bandwidth and the teamsare using Passpoint now and
doing offload with Wi-Fi.
So there's some really neatthings that are happening.
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Definitely would encourage youto go check out the Wireless
Global Congress.
Then, right after that,registrations open 46 days until
Cisco Live.
Coming back to San Diego,california, it's just, it's
Cisco Live.
You know, it's everything, it'severything and everyone in the
industry doing their things.
You know, I remember there usedto be incredible shows.
You know, you had Comdex andthe Network Interop and NetWorld
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Interop and you had Supercomand you had all these shows
where everyone was talking aboutthe industry and then that just
kind of collapsed.
It seemed like back into vendorconferences.
And so the Cisco Live vendorconference is good at putting
together an event where theyhave the world of solutions,
where you can see a lot of whatpeople are doing.
And I don't want to say thatit's just Cisco, but the trade
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show there is one of the.
There's a lot of people that goto that trade show and there's
a lot of people that go to CiscoLive, maybe not even interested
in Ciscoisco, but interested inwhat's happening overall.
So I will be there, um, hangingout.
I uh, the cisco champions willbe there, cisco champions will
be in the house and it's a greattime to go out to san diego and
they know how to put on a hellof a party.
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So they're turning, I think,the whole downtown area into a
big party.
So that's gonna be pretty nuts.
Anyway, that's what we gotgoing on.
I appreciate, yeah, the killersman, I the killer.
If you haven't seen the killersin concert?
I've seen them a couple times,so I'm not like, yay, killers,
you know, uh, but if you haven'tseen them, they put on a hell
of a show.
A hell of a show.
We do need a wi-fi conference insouth texas.
Mario, maybe it's just going tobe you and I that do our own
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south texas conference.
You know, the closest thingthat we have is we have B-Sides.
So if you're listening from theRio Grande Valley, b-sides RGV
is coming up.
It's a spectacular time.
I've gotten to present there anumber of times.
You know I had a really goodtime and I would encourage you
all to do the same thing.
If there's a conference likeB-Sides or Security Conference
or a nerd conference that'shappening in your local
community, all you got to do isgrab a pineapple and grab a
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flipper and a laptop and atablet and you can go out there
and you can put together asession showing people what the
most basic, fundamental attacklooks like using wireless and
how to protect themselves or howto protect their companies from
it.
And I would encourage you to dothat, because a lot of times
what we're dealing with ispeople who don't really
understand what is capable withwireless.
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A lot of people don't give itthe first thought.
When they think about networksecurity, they're not thinking
about protecting their networksfrom a Wi-Fi side, and we've had
it happen down here.
We just had a whole lot ofhacks and a whole lot of outages
down here in South Texas.
I mean, it took out a schooldistrict, it took out a city,
another one took out a hospital.
There's some nasty stuff goingon.
So I would encourage you, ifyou're in your local community,
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share your knowledge about whatyou know in the wireless
industry.
Get out there, talk to peopleabout it.
If you need ideas forpresentations, it's great to go
to shows like Wireless GlobalCongress or the Wi-Fi Now events
or WLPC.
You know, one time Lee Badman,my favorite person in the Wi-Fi
industry Mr Lee Badman, mrPorkchop Sandwiches, mr Beef
Wellington himself did anincredible session on the Wi-Fi
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pineapple at WLPC and I turnedaround and I said, lee, this is
great, I'm going to take thiscurriculum, I'm going to hack it
apart.
I'm going to do a local versionof it and Lee's like dude, go
ahead, man, that's awesome.
That's what we do it for is forpeople to share the education.
So I would encourage you, ifyou're looking for something to
do, reach out.
You know, if you need, if youneed pointers, but definitely
let people know that you're thewireless nerd in your community.
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Go out there.
And, mark, I know that's goingto be hard because you live in a
community where there's somewhere there's some stiff
competition for wireless nerdsand you don't have a man cave,
so that's okay.
Anyway, go be the wireless nerdthat you were meant to be.
That is a wrap for Waves thisweek.
I'm not going to do thatgiveaway today, I'm just going
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to tease it out.
But y'all, next week we'regoing to give away an AirTrek G3
.
It's going to happen.
I'm going to find out all thespecs on it and we are going to
get people on and I would askyou to share it so that more
people can join, but I know youprobably won't, because the less
people, the better your chancesI get it.
However, I would appreciate itif you would share the link.
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Let's build up some excitement,let's have some fun, and I hope
you all like.
I'm trying to drop the sponsormessages in like pre-roll,
mid-roll and at the end.
So give me some tips andpointers on there.
I'm trying not to be obnoxiouswith the sponsors.
I'm trying to make sure thatthey convey a good message and
something that's of absoluteinterest to you.
That's the whole idea, right isthat we all learn from this,
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anyway.
So that's it, y'all.
There's only one wireless nerdin the valley Aw, thanks, mario.
Anyway, he says he's gettingmarks coming to South Texas.
I love it.
All right, y'all.
Well, that being said, that'sabout the 40-minute mark here on
Waves.
So I'm going to wrap this upand I hope you all have a great
week, enjoy your week, and nextweek I'm going to be traveling,
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but I'm going to stop for aminute and produce the podcast
and give some stuff away.
It's going to be phenomenal andI'll be out in Mountain View,
so I'll be doing the podcast outthere.
So, if we happen to see,
What's up everybody?
It's Drew Lentz, the WirelessNerd, coming in with a cold cut,
starting the podcast today forApril 22nd.
We just had a really fun timetesting out a new mechanism on
our YouTube page.
Thank you to everyone.
Bradley, thank you for winningthe non-raffle.
I really appreciate it.
What we're going to start doingis giving stuff away, because I
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have a lot of stuff and I wantto give it away and because some
of my fine sponsors that areout there and some of the people
that have supported the showfor a real long time are totally
down to give stuff away, and sothat's what we're going to do.
Man, maybe we'll do it today,at the end of the show, maybe
we'll wait till the next one,but we've got some really cool
stuff that we want to be able tostart giving away, and the
(00:43):
first thing that we're going togive away is a NetAlly AirCheck
G3, courtesy of the fine folksover at NetAlly, mr Julio and Mr
Dan.
If you guys happen to be at theWi-Fi Now Global Congress, stop
by and say hi to them.
If you're at RSAC, stop by andsay hi to them as well.
Netally always coming throughclutch, making incredible tools,
and this time they're going tostart letting me hand some of
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the stuff out.
So very cool to have thatpartnership with them and be
able to support them, gettingsome new tools in your hands.
They also make a whole lot ofreally cool other stuff and you
never know what's going to showup.
So get familiar with theirproduct line, get familiar with
their features and what they do,and we'll be giving out a
NetAlly AirCheck G3 probablynext week Unless out a NetAlly
AirCheck G3 probably next weekUnless.
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Like if I get like 80 viewersright now, maybe we'll give it
out.
But I mean you guys,unfortunately you guys are the
guinea pigs.
So if you're listening anywhereelse, make sure you watch the
Waves podcast at youtubecom,slash at wireless nerd or go to
the wireless podcastcom.
There's a link in there.
But the only way that you canbe participatory in this is by
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joining the live chat in ourYouTube channel so that I can
say things like what's up chat,it's Drew the wireless nerd and
I can sound like all the peoplethat my kids listen to.
Hey, man, speaking of notwireless related, but total
parenting moment man we had, youknow, I don't know if you've
watched that Netflix special orthe Netflix show that's out
(02:09):
right now about the little kidsand the effects of what's going
on, you know, with social mediaand everything and how it's
affecting teenagers.
But there's a good show.
Can't remember the name of itright off the top of my head,
you know, obviously, because nowthat I am older, things like
that happen.
Someone's going to mention ithere in the chat in just a
(02:30):
second, but it's a Netflixspecial.
It's about a child in the UKand they get in trouble.
It's called Adolescence is thename of it, and it's a four-part
series and it was really cooland really eye opening just then
.
Terrifying, as a parent, youknow.
And then we had this moment withour kids where we had to lock
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everything down.
So you know, we've had itlocked down in the past.
Then we got a little lax.
I mean, dude, we're just, we'rejust human right.
And then we had to turn around.
We're like, no, we got to startlocking everything back down on
the kiddos and so they're not asponsor.
And you know, I don't.
I think I made a referral foryou one time, but I can't
recommend Bark enough man forwhat they do and it's just.
(03:13):
It's it's peace of mind morethan anything for a parent, but,
having watched that movie andseeing what's going on with
social media, definitely wantedto do that.
Because, dude, the stuff thatmy kid listens to on YouTube,
you know, it's like one dayeverything's fine, it's funny,
and we're watching, you know,videos of dogs and cats, and
then the next minute it's likelike terrifying.
So, as much as we are, all youknow, anyone listening to this
(03:35):
probably is involved intechnology.
You know, don't forget, dude,don't forget to turn around,
because as much as we'recomfortable with it, maybe kids
aren't that comfortable with itand there's a lot of stuff that
goes on.
You know, there was just a dealhappened with someone who met
on Roblox and got abducted, andso I mean, you can never be too
vigilant, I guess, is my point.
So make sure you take a look atthat Bark, very, very cool
(03:58):
product for parents.
So what's going on, man?
Well, you know, we just wepushed one of these out last
week.
We had some really coolannouncements.
I have some sick sponsors nowso excited, not just in the
ability to give stuff away likewe just kind of did we didn't
really give anything away, but Imean we tested out the
functionality and the mechanismto give stuff away.
(04:18):
So pretty soon we'll startreally giving some stuff away,
starting with the next show, forsure.
Pretty soon we'll start reallygiving some stuff away, starting
with the next show, for sure,we're going to start giving out
some freebies to people thatlisten.
So I would encourage you tojump online, drop me a message
or a comment, tell me about thestuff that you want.
I'll look through my office ifI have something that you like
that I can give away.
Then, man, by all means, Ithink one of the things I am
(04:39):
going to give away because Ihave a set of them here, check
it out.
This one's not even open yet,but this is a halo link from
morse micro.
So this is a wi-fi halo, stillnew, uh, unopened.
That's something we candefinitely put in the pool.
Um, you know, what I'm notgoing to give away is is some of
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my radios, like my radio radios.
Check this out.
Had a moment with the kid theother night.
They didn't have school onMonday, so Sunday night we
decided to watch a movie and I,you know, judge my parenting
later, but I put on one of myfavorite movies that got me
interested in wirelesscommunications in the first
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place, and then I had to bustout all my gear the first place
and then I had to bust out on mygear.
There she goes, you guys readyfor this?
Look, look at this man, thecobra 29 classic.
Oh yes, we watched smoky andthe bandit the other night and
(05:42):
we got to learn all about CBlingo.
Hey, snowman, you got your earson this bandit?
Come back, it's good stuff.
So we had a whole conversationabout CB radios and I had to go
find mine.
Man, and I remember the firsttime that I messed with CB I was
in Simi Valley, california,riding around in a truck with a
bunch of us, this guy named Tony, who had this cool little
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Toyota I guess it was a Tacoma.
It was that little truck likethe one in Back to the Future,
and he had a big old whipantenna on it and I thought it
was so cool because he couldtalk to people from all over
Simi Valley on his little CBradio and they had all these
weird things that they'd say toeach other and they'd have these
little music notes that theywould play in the background and
it was pretty awesome.
So thinking about that man gotme busting out the cb radio, and
(06:26):
so I'm driving a ford f-150lightning right now and
unfortunately there's nowhere toput the cb radio yet.
But I'm pretty sure I'm gonnafind a place to stick this bad
boy and plug it in and turn iton.
Man, I got this at a pawn shopfor 36 bucks that crazy.
Anyway, I'll stick one thewife's car just for good measure
.
Anyway, are you a cb here?
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If you, if cb is in your blood,man, let me know.
Mark I I I have a feeling Iknow the answer to this with
mark bender sounds like a cbradio enthusiast also.
So if you do, uh, if you'veever done cb man, drop me a note
.
It's pretty crazy, I think it's.
I think it's neat, fun way tostart with with wireless from
back in the Anyway.
So we're watching smoking thebandit.
Talking about that, you knowthere were a couple of movies
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that stood out in my childhoodthat made me really like want to
get involved in wirelesscommunications.
Uh, you know, smoking thebandit convoy.
Uh, you know, cannonball run.
These are some good ones, uh,but pump up up the volume.
That's a movie that really gotme interested in radio.
It got me interested in djing,got me interested in talking on
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the mic.
It got me interested in how touse signals to you know, to
break into stuff or throw peopleoff your track.
So pump up the volume was apretty good one that I liked
also anyway.
So I had some cool momentsthere with a little, with the
little kiddos showing, showingthem.
You know some movies that Ireally enjoyed.
Mark says you need to take thetest Starting to get your ham.
Yeah, man, I mean it's.
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It's my books are outdated here, but but definitely go check
out the ARRL and and get theirlatest manuals.
It's not that difficult to takethe test for ham operators.
You can get your basic, you canget your technician license, no
problem.
It's a lot of math.
But for people like us who arein the wireless industry, first
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of all I would say you totallyshould have it.
If you're doing anything withwireless and you're seriously
doing it, you should absolutelyhave an operator's license
because there's things that itteaches you and things that you
can understand from doing itthat you might not even think
about on a day-to-day basis.
You know it's a lot of math,it's a lot of science, it's
Ohm's law Like you got no Ohm'slaw inside and out, I just
remember that.
But learning how to build anantenna and learning what visor
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is and learning all these thingsthat make a difference.
Even if people don't think wifiis as RF technical you know
technical as it is.
It's great to have a hamoperators license and I tell you
I put it, I haven't had abusiness card in a minute, but I
put it on all my business cardsand when you hand that to
someone or you've got your callsign or it's on your license
plate on your truck, whatever itis, it's like instant aha, you
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know, instant recognition.
So I would definitely encourageyou to visit ARRLorg, learn
about becoming a ham operator,take the test.
I mean we really need to do oneof the things we need to do at
WLPC is we need to have a hammeetup.
Man, we need to have like aswap meet and a meetup there for
hams.
I don't know why we haven'tdone that yet Like a little mini
field day.
That would be really fun.
There's a lot of stuff I'vealways wanted to do at WLPC.
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Like it's a perfect grounds fordoing just nerd stuff like this
.
So maybe this year, if enoughof us hams get together, we can.
We can have some fun and maybewe can do a study, a study class
or study group.
Maybe we need to cranksomething up on the on the
wireless land pros chat and seeif we can do that.
But if you're not an amateurradio operator, uh, definitely
encourage you to become one.
And I definitely encourage youto take part in Aegis and take
part in disaster recovery andthe things that amateur radios
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do with that.
It's special to me because Ilive down here on the Gulf Coast
.
Shout out to the RGV AmateurRadio Club.
Our amateur radio clubmobilizes whenever something
happens.
I've got a Kenwood TS2000 that Ibought on eBay a while back and
a great little Astron powersupply for it and the radio
stays off a lot.
(10:06):
But the second that there's anystorm or the second that
there's weather, or maybe on aTuesday night at 7pm for a rag
chew, the radio comes on and thekids get such a kick out of it
because the second weather hits,radio flips on and throughout
the whole house all you hear isall the chatter going back and
forth from all the hams, given,you know, status updates and
situation updates and thingslike that.
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So it's super fun to nerd out.
If you're into wireless, listen.
This is the Waves podcast.
I am a wireless nerd so I don'tknow what you're expecting to
hear.
But if you're going like, oh myGod, this guy's getting kind of
knee deep in it, this isexactly the kind of stuff and
the reason that I do what I do.
So plug it in, turn it on, havea good time, learn how to be a
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ham man Really really cool stuff.
Now let's talk about things thatare going on in the industry,
because there's a couple deals.
There's a couple, a coupledeals.
The first thing that I want toreference here.
I've seen this a couple oftimes and you know it.
If I had a minute today, what Iwas going to do is set
something up on my kitchen tableand see say honestly, see if it
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worked.
I mean theoretically, inscience there's, there's things
about it that should work butdoesn doesn't make it better.
Of course, I'm talking aboutthe aluminum foil Wi-Fi hack
that's blowing people's mind.
Let me see if I can share myscreen out here.
Y'all ready for this?
Here it is this viral aluminumfoil Wi-Fi hack is blowing
people's mind, but does itactually work?
(11:36):
So this article has beenpublished in a couple of
different places and this personhas a little NiteGear Nighthawk
inside.
It looks like in a couple ofdifferent places, and this
person has a little NetgearNighthawk inside.
Looks like half of a boxcovered in aluminum foil.
I don't doubt that there's goingto be an increase in signal.
I reached out to Firas If youguys know Firas I was like bro,
you need to totally do thisbecause he has all the crazy
equipment.
But then I turned around andlooked.
I'm like dude, I've stuff thatcan measure these signals.
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Why not try it?
So I didn't have a chance to doit today, but I'm definitely
looking forward to someone who'sa little bit more excited about
these things to try this out.
I really want to see if thisworks and to what extent,
because, as you know, the secondsomething like this gets out on
the internet.
People all over the world startto consume it, and by that, if
you look at this, a tweet fromthis person showing Wi-Fi
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routers surrounded by aluminumfoils racked up over 33 million
views.
That's 33 million people thatwe're gonna have to troubleshoot
.
Y'all know that right.
So people swearing, theirsignal strength improved
instantly.
And there it is Put an aluminumfoil behind your Wi-Fi router.
Thank me later.
Oh, oh man, this is going to beuh, this is going to be some
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fun tech support, but thescience behind it talks about
signal reflector being betterfrom walls.
So what I am curious about isthe effects of mimo in this with
multipath.
But let's just see.
Um, anyway, if anyone has donethis, let me know.
Man, post your results online.
Let's find out what's uh,what's happening with it,
because this is hilarious andfun both at the same time.
(13:10):
Let's see what else we gotgoing on.
So I'm going to close thatwindow on to the next one and
the famous words of jay-z.
This popped up, which issomething that that came out
before, and I've seen thisarticle.
You know this was published, Ithink, like 10 years ago, maybe
O23 Ecotech, and this was a dealthat they were talking about at
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Carnegie Mellon University.
Oh, it was two years ago, threeyears ago, and we talked about
this actually on the show, andwhat they did is they took a
camera on one side and a Wi-Fi.
You know, according to them, Ithink it was an off-the-shelf
Wi-Fi router on the other sideand they had it match up so when
someone would walk in the room,the camera would focus on the
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person and show the person andthat would teach the Wi-Fi
router to you know reflectivesignals, understand what it saw
basically using Wi-Fi like LiDAR, and it worked pretty well.
On the left-hand side is whatyou see as a combination of the
two images.
On the right-hand side is whatyou see just from the RF
signature of it, and they did alive demo of it and if you
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scroll through on Instagram youcan see what the live demo is
here.
Yeah, so this guy's explainingexactly what I just said.
I can't fast-forward that, butyou get the idea.
But this came back up and I justwanted to bring it up because,
if you hadn't seen this already,there's lots of talk about
Wi-Fi imaging and about Wi-Fisensing.
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That came up last year at Wi-FiNow, at the Wi-Fi Now Global
Congress, and that's coming backup again next week, and so I
don't know if anybody's going tobe there talking about Wi-Fi
sensing again, but if they are,I thought I'd bring it up just
in case anyone knows if there'sany.
Has there been any new movementon it?
(14:55):
I haven't seen any productreleases or anything that's
coming out, but it's definitelyan interesting use of the
technology to me, using Wi-Fi tounderstand who's where and what
they're doing, but it didsurface itself again, and this
time on digital camera world.
So you know, you never know,but this is what people are
gonna be talking about.
Let's see On to the next one.
(15:15):
What's the next article?
We got Columbia studentssuspended over interview
cheating tool.
Okay, so, man, this is nuts.
Clueley was announced and this21-year-old dude over here, roy
Lee, announced he's raised $5.3million in seed funding.
Oops, there we go.
Let me show my screen $5.3million in seed funding from
Abstract Ventures and SousaVentures for a startup called
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Clueley.
I would encourage you to lookat their social media and look
at the commercial that they madeand what they're what they're
doing with it, because it's apretty cool commercial.
So I'm underscore Roy,underscore.
Lee has the, the video on thereand he's he's gotten just a ton,
a ton of traffic.
I think if we click through onhis name, you can see some of
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the stuff that's on here.
He mentioned that that it's hadjust an insane amount of views.
Clueless, I'm cheating oneverything.
There we go 10 million views intwo days, 80,000 on X in three
months.
This is a pretty wild thing tothink about.
So what he did is he wrote aprogram that allows him to use
smart glasses to have interviewquestions.
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Someone would ask an interviewquestion and the glasses would
listen and it would displaywhatever the results are.
Now he did this on his browser.
Right, he did this on a webbrowser and he goes on to show,
if you dig through his socialmedia, how you can't stop this
from happening on a browser.
There's no way to detect it orwhatever else.
But his idea was to cheatthrough job interviews and he
ended up getting something likefour or five job offers total
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worth $600,000, I think is whathe said and it gives him the
ability to interpret what'sgoing on.
So this takes it a step further.
Right In this you've got smartglasses with active listening
and they're displaying real-timedata on his glasses.
And here he's trying to winover the heart of a young lady
at a dinner date.
In the video you can see righthere on your screen that's what
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he's doing and she actuallybusts him.
But the idea isn't just that.
Right, it's a funny take on it,but if you stop and you think
about the real-worldimplications of what's going on
here and what Clulee can bring,it's something that I find
actually exciting.
Now, again, this is like takeall the privacy stuff and don't
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focus on that.
Think about what the usabilityof this is in an environment
where data is secure and private.
And I was talking to my wifeabout it, because my wife does
insurance right and insurance.
You have contract aftercontract.
You have all this data.
You have all the informationabout the businesses and what
they do and what their annualearnings are, and their
quarterly reports and everythingelse.
Imagine if you're sitting in ameeting with someone like your
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insurance agent and they havethese glasses on and, as you're
talking to them, you can askthem any single question about
anything that they're doing andI don't mean like the normal
stuff that they should know, Imean like crazy obscure things
and having that information attheir fingertips where they
don't have to fumble throughpapers and look anything up.
Now apply that further on, andwhat I've always wanted to see
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and again, this is the totalopt-in thing what I've always
wanted to see is the smartglasses that I can put on in a
conference and when I walk upand shake your hand, it scans
your face If you've opted in forit.
It shows me your LinkedInprofile and where you've been
and who you are, and it shows mewhere you've worked and it
shows your social media oranything else that you've opted
into, so that I can so I canunderstand who it is I'm talking
to.
Granted lots of privacy andsecurity implications there.
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Totally understand that, butfrom an opt-in perspective, man,
I think that that would bepretty insane.
It would be crazy to see thatas a lawyer.
For example.
Imagine a lawyer wearingsomething like this in court and
having instant access on theirglasses to every single court
case while they're sitting theretrying to argue for something.
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That would be pretty involved.
There's lots of uses for this,and so what he's teasing out is
the ability to quote unquotecheat on anything, and I find
that to be absolutelyfascinating because it's not
about faking a job interview.
It's about leveraging data andthe massive amounts of data that
we have and presenting it in away that it hasn't been
presented before.
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So I'm keen to see what happenswith that.
Again, privacy huge thing goingon there, but at the same time,
if you can do that in a waythat protects that privacy, then
that could be pretty awesome.
Now, as long as we're goingdown that path and you can see
that B&H puts up advertisementsall over everything for me, so
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nice.
Jj just posted something.
Jj Manella, I'm hoping you knowJJ if you're listening to this
podcast.
Jj is a big rock star in theWi-Fi industry with.
She posted something that wasfunny on LinkedIn and I
commented back.
I know that you've seen thisright, jj, because Sam Altman is
saying that people sayingplease and thank you to ChatGPT
is wasting millions of dollarsin compute power.
(19:58):
It's the computer.
You don't really have to bequite nice to it, you know, and
I don't think you're going toearn brownie points for being
nice to it and it's not going tochange the function if you're
nice or if you're mean to it.
I'm not saying be mean to thecomputer, but your robot
overlords don't seem to have anyfeelings and that's not
necessarily a bad thing.
(20:19):
So using polite language sets atone for the response.
However, it'll be polite back.
But generative AI also mirrorsa level of professionalism,
clarity and detail that youprovide, but it's not
necessarily going to change whatthe output is.
So that was pretty interestingto see.
Another story coming up withChatGPT and this is kind of
creepy.
This hasn't happened to me yetis that ChatGPT is referring to
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users by their names unprompted.
You know that's kind of weird.
It hasn't done that to me yetand I'm a pro user on it.
So maybe, maybe I'm just notasking it the right questions.
I'm asking it to like make melook like an action figure or
create a create an image for apodcast.
So it's not, maybe it's maybeI'm not the right demographic,
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uh, but you know, we can try itout and see what happens.
What else do we have going onhere?
This, okay, out of curiosity, Isaw.
What else do we have going onhere?
This, okay, out of curiosity, Isaw.
I worked with someone who usedthis tool and I wanted to ask
anyone if they had seen this,this actual tool, so what it has
right here.
If you look at it, it's aKeystone Terminator by True
Cable and I saw it and it workedreally, really well and that's
(21:29):
it.
That's like that's all I got.
It doesn't really have anythingto do with wireless, unless
you're plugging wireless stuffin.
However, uh, does anybody haveany experience with this?
Because if you do, let me know.
I I used it once.
I was like man, is thissomething I should buy?
So I thought I would bring thatup.
What else we got?
Scientists have hijacked thehuman eye to get to see a brand
new color.
It's called olo I'm.
I would love to see what a newcolor looks like, but apparently
(21:52):
the only way to see it let'ssee if it's in here is you have
to shoot a laser beam directlyinto your eye.
So maybe I don't want to seethe color that bad.
Um, blue green, blue green ofunprecedented saturation isn't
that crazy?
So apparently, in order to seeit though you've got to you've
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got to shoot a laser beam rightinto your eye.
Again, nothing to do withwireless.
Definitely found thatfascinating.
Now this has a lot to do withwireless and I also found this
fascinating.
I don't know if I'm sure you allhave met Anil.
If you've listened to thepodcast, you've seen that we
interviewed on him.
Anil is one of the co-foundersand CEO of Meter.
If you've listened to thepodcast, you've seen that we
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interviewed on him.
Anil is one of the co-foundersand CEO of Meter, who's one of
the fine, fine sponsors here atthe Waves podcast, and this is
not me going out.
I would have posted this, nomatter if they're a sponsor or
not.
Check this out If you guys knowanyone who's into machine
learning.
Anil posted this on Twitteryesterday.
I believe he said Meter'sbuilding one of the most
ambitious projects an AI, fullyautonomous network and they're
(22:54):
growing their team.
If you know anyone and theyhire them, he'll give you 20
grand Anil.
What do I get for referringpeople to refer to you?
I'm just saying I mean, let'sgo ahead and put that out there,
but I thought that that waspretty neat.
So if you all know anyonethat's interested, look up Anil.
His X handle is at ACV, or findthe folks at Meter or reach out
(23:15):
to me.
If you know anyone who'sinterested, he's got a finder's
fee in there for you, which ispretty cool, so I figured I
would pass that on.
This might be a little bitbroader of an audience than
someone who just reads a tweetevery once in a while.
So if you know anyone who'sinterested, visit meterai, look
(23:36):
up Anil at ACV, send me amessage, whatever it is.
Let's get you in touch with theright people If you know
someone who's interested inbuilding that, because that
would be a really cool.
Plus 20 grand.
So you got that going for you.
Kuiper one ULA is a set tolaunch the first operational
satellites for project Kuiper.
Very cool, I'm interested inthis for a whole bunch of
reasons, I'm sure, as you know.
You know, just, uh, you, if youdon know, what I do during my
day job is I work for a companycalled Eero.
This is an Amazon company, soI'm keenly interested in how the
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whole atmosphere of everythingthat's going on at Amazon is
doing.
And this is really neat, not tosay that any comments or things
that I say are mine and mineonly.
They don't represent anythingof the people that I work for,
so let's go ahead and make thatclear.
But this is really neat eitherway, because this is a new LEO
(24:22):
project that's going up.
Kuiper 1 is going from SpaceLaunch Complex 41 at Cape
Canaveral.
Wednesday April 9th is when itlaunched and everything's up
there.
Man, pretty awesome.
March 31st kuiper one satelliteprocessing.
So keep your eye on what'sgoing on there.
And uh, and this is pretty neat, man, this is really cool to
(24:43):
see.
So more low earth orbitingsatellites, more stuff happening
in the atmosphere.
Let's see, all right on toevents, what kind of events we
got going on right now.
Look at this.
This is pretty cool.
So shout out to the, to theposse over at waiko um, waiko,
toronto is sold out.
That's awesome, uh,congratulations getting the
(25:05):
sellout audience there.
There's a lot of other waikoevents coming up the wireless
community, this fancy elephant,uh, that mr peter mckinsey
probably drew on a napkin andthen, you know, turned into a
logo, maybe not, I don't knowhow they came up with it, but
waiko and peter and all theseevents are going on.
This is so neat, man.
It's so neat to see right here,um, that norway, tullinore,
(25:26):
north carolina, at the botanicalgardens, philly is coming up on
the 15th of may, nashville onmay 29th, bordeaux, france, on
july 3rd, um, the bay area, ncexperts doing one in the bay
area on the 7th of july, andthen the waiku conference in
london.
This is going to be the big one.
This one's going to be really,really cool.
So this, if you got any, ifyou're going to be out there in
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september, this is the one thatyou want to go to, uh, to really
bring everything together.
And then the 2nd of October inMontreal and the 20th of
November in the Netherlands.
So WICO is all over the placeand what we need to do is we
need to bring some of the teamon from WICO so that they can
talk about this.
Wico is a lot of sessionsspecifically around what we're
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using as a community, whetherit's tools, whether it's tricks,
whether it's knowledge.
Wico is like a small, localizedversion of WLPC, hitting every
single one of these areas.
So the big events, like theWICO conference in the UK, the
WLPC in Phoenix, the WLPC inPrague, those are the big events
, right, those are the big daddyevents where everything happens
, but WICO breaks it out intothese sessions that bring it to
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your door, that bring it closerto you.
So if you're not, if youhaven't gone to a WICO event and
one is coming relatively closeto you, I would make every
effort that you can to attend.
You get to see some incrediblespeakers.
It's a lot of people that youknow from the industry, a lot of
people that you've seen andheard.
Maybe you don't know thempersonally, but here you might
get a chance to do that.
(26:53):
Speaking of other events, as Imentioned, the Wi-Fi Now World
Congress is coming up next week,april 28th through 30th.
This is going to be in MountainView, california, co-located
with the Wi-Fi Halo GlobalSummit and the Open Wi-Fi Global
Summit.
Klaus again puts together justthe slate.
I mean, these are the peoplethat you want to hear from about
what's happening in theindustry and what's going on,
and they're all going to bethere.
Look through it.
You know they're all going tobe there and it's a very cool
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conference where you get to getface-to-face and you get to
shake hands with a lot of thesepeople.
You get to get to know thempersonally and you get to hear
what they're doing and what'shappening in their organizations
.
Very cool group of peoplethat's going to be there.
So I would encourage you,please tune in, or tune in,
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please show up and take a lookat what's happening.
I think there's still ways thatyou can buy tickets to register
for it.
So visit wifi now, globalcom.
You can learn more about what'sgoing on there.
Also coming up very soon on theheels of that, may 19th and 22nd
, is the wgc americas withwireless, the wireless global
congress.
I will be out speaking at thisone talking about smart
communities.
So if you're close to Dallas,may 19th through May 22nd, this
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is a really fun one.
Now there is some carryoverfrom content between the two
conferences.
You'll hear it first at Wi-FiNow and then WBA will have some
of the same speakers talkingabout some of the same things.
But the way to think about.
It is Wi-Fi Now, in my opinion,right, this isn't the official
opinion of either one of these,but in my opinion, basically
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Wi-Fi Now is where you get allthe leaders together to talk
about what's happening in theindustry.
It's more of a corporate feel,more of a you know from the
captain's observatory pointwhere the ship is going.
Wba does a really good job ofidentifying what people are
doing with Wi-Fi, how they'reusing Wi-Fi Now, wi-fi, the
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Wi-Fi Alliance, kevin and theteam Consuelo and the team at
the Wi-Fi Alliance.
What they do is they make surethat the standards are being met
, the Wi-Fi gear is beingproduced.
They help support the industryand make the industry move
forward.
But WBA is like how do we dothings using Wi-Fi, in my
opinion?
And then Wi-Fi now is these arethe people that are doing
things with Wi-Fi and how youshould listen to them.
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So there's this really coolcarryover between the three.
I expect to hear a lot aboutopen roaming and what's been
going on with open roaming,what's been happening with
American bandwidth and the teamsare using Passpoint now and
doing offload with Wi-Fi.
So there's some really neatthings that are happening.
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Definitely would encourage youto go check out the Wireless
Global Congress.
Then, right after that,registrations open 46 days until
Cisco Live.
Coming back to San Diego,california, it's just, it's
Cisco Live.
You know, it's everything, it'severything and everyone in the
industry doing their things.
You know, I remember there usedto be incredible shows.
You know, you had Comdex andthe Network Interop and NetWorld
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Interop and you had Supercomand you had all these shows
where everyone was talking aboutthe industry and then that just
kind of collapsed.
It seemed like back into vendorconferences.
And so the Cisco Live vendorconference is good at putting
together an event where theyhave the world of solutions,
where you can see a lot of whatpeople are doing.
And I don't want to say thatit's just Cisco, but the trade
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show there is one of the.
There's a lot of people that goto that trade show and there's
a lot of people that go to CiscoLive, maybe not even interested
in Ciscoisco, but interested inwhat's happening overall.
So I will be there, um, hangingout.
I uh, the cisco champions willbe there, cisco champions will
be in the house and it's a greattime to go out to san diego and
they know how to put on a hellof a party.
(30:23):
So they're turning, I think,the whole downtown area into a
big party.
So that's gonna be pretty nuts.
Anyway, that's what we gotgoing on.
I appreciate, yeah, the killersman, I the killer.
If you haven't seen the killersin concert?
I've seen them a couple times,so I'm not like, yay, killers,
you know, uh, but if you haven'tseen them, they put on a hell
of a show.
A hell of a show.
We do need a wi-fi conference insouth texas.
Mario, maybe it's just going tobe you and I that do our own
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south texas conference.
You know, the closest thingthat we have is we have B-Sides.
So if you're listening from theRio Grande Valley, b-sides RGV
is coming up.
It's a spectacular time.
I've gotten to present there anumber of times.
You know I had a really goodtime and I would encourage you
all to do the same thing.
If there's a conference likeB-Sides or Security Conference
or a nerd conference that'shappening in your local
community, all you got to do isgrab a pineapple and grab a
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flipper and a laptop and atablet and you can go out there
and you can put together asession showing people what the
most basic, fundamental attacklooks like using wireless and
how to protect themselves or howto protect their companies from
it.
And I would encourage you to dothat, because a lot of times
what we're dealing with ispeople who don't really
understand what is capable withwireless.
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A lot of people don't give itthe first thought.
When they think about networksecurity, they're not thinking
about protecting their networksfrom a Wi-Fi side, and we've had
it happen down here.
We just had a whole lot ofhacks and a whole lot of outages
down here in South Texas.
I mean, it took out a schooldistrict, it took out a city,
another one took out a hospital.
There's some nasty stuff goingon.
So I would encourage you, ifyou're in your local community,
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share your knowledge about whatyou know in the wireless
industry.
Get out there, talk to peopleabout it.
If you need ideas forpresentations, it's great to go
to shows like Wireless GlobalCongress or the Wi-Fi Now events
or WLPC.
You know, one time Lee Badman,my favorite person in the Wi-Fi
industry Mr Lee Badman, mrPorkchop Sandwiches, mr Beef
Wellington himself did anincredible session on the Wi-Fi
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pineapple at WLPC and I turnedaround and I said, lee, this is
great, I'm going to take thiscurriculum, I'm going to hack it
apart.
I'm going to do a local versionof it and Lee's like dude, go
ahead, man, that's awesome.
That's what we do it for is forpeople to share the education.
So I would encourage you, ifyou're looking for something to
do, reach out.
You know, if you need, if youneed pointers, but definitely
let people know that you're thewireless nerd in your community.
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Go out there.
And, mark, I know that's goingto be hard because you live in a
community where there's somewhere there's some stiff
competition for wireless nerdsand you don't have a man cave,
so that's okay.
Anyway, go be the wireless nerdthat you were meant to be.
That is a wrap for Waves thisweek.
I'm not going to do thatgiveaway today, I'm just going
(32:58):
to tease it out.
But y'all, next week we'regoing to give away an AirTrek G3
.
It's going to happen.
I'm going to find out all thespecs on it and we are going to
get people on and I would askyou to share it so that more
people can join, but I know youprobably won't, because the less
people, the better your chancesI get it.
However, I would appreciate itif you would share the link.
(33:18):
Let's build up some excitement,let's have some fun, and I hope
you all like.
I'm trying to drop the sponsormessages in like pre-roll,
mid-roll and at the end.
So give me some tips andpointers on there.
I'm trying not to be obnoxiouswith the sponsors.
I'm trying to make sure thatthey convey a good message and
something that's of absoluteinterest to you.
That's the whole idea, right isthat we all learn from this,
(33:39):
anyway.
So that's it, y'all.
There's only one wireless nerdin the valley Aw, thanks, mario.
Anyway, he says he's gettingmarks coming to South Texas.
I love it.
All right, y'all.
Well, that being said, that'sabout the 40-minute mark here on
Waves.
So I'm going to wrap this upand I hope you all have a great
week, enjoy your week, and nextweek I'm going to be traveling,
(34:01):
but I'm going to stop for aminute and produce the podcast
and give some stuff away.
It's going to be phenomenal andI'll be out in Mountain View,
so I'll be doing the podcast outthere.
So, if we happen to see,
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