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Welcome to wax on wax off. Podcast were a teenager gains
wisdom and insight from pioneersand innovators that have come
before. Search of had a win in every
facet of life and change the world.
I'm your host Solomon Cole. Let's get into today's episode.
So, for today's episode, I'm notin my room, I don't know where I
am. I'm just kidding.
I am in the studio of the who needs a name podcast with PB and
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J. And that's exactly who I'm
talking today. Welcome Pastor, Brandon who has
been on the episode before and amr.
Josh balog. Hey, what's up Solomon?
Yeah, I'm so happy to have you guys here.
Yep round two he just did for for these guys podcast and I
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love what you guys are doing number one and I love that you
guys are creating content and doing something as friends to.
I think it's really awesome. Thanks, they were our first
guest. You were right?
Yeah. I kind of want to ask.
What do you do whether that's career or whatever when why do
you do it? Yeah.
Josh. Okay.
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So I think the whatever was directed towards me because I
don't do much right now but no. So who am I and what do I do?
Yeah. What are you doing?
Why do you do it? Okay.
I guess you could tell them a little bit about yourself.
Like what's your favorite food and color?
Alright, my favorite food is talk is my favorite color is Is
orange. And what do I flipped it?
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My favorite colors tacos. My dear, I say that wrong.
No, just kidding. Okay, so I'm a recent college
graduate. Come on Robert Morris
University. So I'm currently looking for a
job like full-time within that. But right now, I work part-time
at a Target and I work full-timewith who needs a name.
Yeah, what Cassie. Yeah.
And I guess, and I do that because I really think God has
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put on my heart to share the wisdom and to just teach people
about things that I've learned. Kind of go through life and
authentic way and especially with this guy, we just have
really good conversations on thephone and and we're just on the
same brain wave with that and sowe're just running with it.
Yeah, very cool. Need to pack this episode with
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so much depth within this systemthat we have, we have short
amount of time. Yep.
But we're not going to be a sense episode.
Yep. Also, I have to say, this is the
beginning. I'm so proud of you for your
podcast. Thank you.
Yes. Everyone.
Listen, this guy's amazing. He's the man.
I love you so much, and I'm so proud of you and I love being
apart any, thank you that you. He said, you asked.
So yeah, thank you. So, for the listeners who don't
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know what is your podcast? Oh, who needs a name with PB&J?
It is a pod cast set around reallife, real combos, row guys.
So there's so many and especially in the Christian
world that we live in. There are so many conversations
that take place but they can feel kind of phony.
They can feel kind of fake and so, just a space, have real
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conversations about things that really matter that hopefully
will add value to the lives of those who listen and practical
and applicable ways. Yeah.
What did it take? For both of you to start your
podcast both like practically and then like habitually.
Mmm. So I think we should just start
from like the beginning, right? I had to go on a school trip.
What I didn't have to. I did this project for my final
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and I had to drive to Lake Erie and I ask is gone like hey do
you want to come with me? And so we did this drive-in on
the way back. We're like dude we should really
do a podcast and we just startedbecause all of our car ride
combat. Yeah, some good words.
Like this is so good. We need to like share this.
And so at that time we created anote and others not pages on
notes, but it was the real like we had what we needed.
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And who are you going to like potential guests?
We had potential topics. How long the episodes were going
to be what all we needed software, wise, set wise.
We were going through all these things.
Yeah, and we were just like going back and forth about like
the different ideas and we just kept spinning each other or
spinning ideas back and forth and that kept going for like a
week or so. Yeah.
And then we're like okay we justneeds to like get off the
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ground. Like what is the first step we
need to do? And it's like we're like, okay,
this is when we're going to record the first episode, we
pick the date and then I It a lot of the technical stuff
because, you know, computer science, major side like no lot
of this stuff and I've recorded hire him.
Yeah, yeah. Hire me the job but this is
actually really cool because before this I started doing not
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a lot of YouTube but I did like I Inspire Collective Recaps of
like this guy's messages and I would post them.
So it's already familiar with editing.
I was familiar with recording and that was kind of like an
easy transition into this. Yeah, we kind of just figured
out a set. He got a new apartment so it was
like we just had a studio there.There, yeah.
And we, yeah, right here. Yeah, 100%.
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And so, really started as like this wild idea that within, like
four weeks, this guy especially help to pull together.
A lot of the Practical things and still right now, I mean he
does a lot of content creation, which I'm so thankful for it
because sometimes I feel like I'm a Madman running around with
my head cut off, or whatever thesaying is.
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It's not it, but he just pours in so much time and energy and
we've kind of just What do you get out with him?
I get out. But how do you go beyond the
dream into actual like, because I'm a dreamer right?
Like, I like to think we should do this, we should it out and
currently I feel like in the middle of starting like eight
different things right, and I love that.
But to actually execute, I thinktook a lot of intentionality, a
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lot of planning and just a lot of tracking like, what are we
doing? What are we doing?
And we have set recording times.We have topics, we have just a
whole structure in place to helpsupport the dream to get where
you need to go. Yeah, has it been Hard for you.
Like having all those things on your plate and having to figure
out the balance on, I guess. Like how did you find that
balance? Yeah, so I like to view
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everything in my life not as a balance but an integration and
so there aren't these dividers or these barriers or walls with.
Okay. This for this portion of my
life, I'm going to pass our people.
And for this portion I'm going to do a podcast and this portion
of a new Scully. I don't really like to do that.
I like to just think okay? These are all the things and all
the dreams and all the Ambitionsand All the time I have.
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Let's integrate them all becauselike you I'm like ADHD right.
Like I that so actually having different things where I can
focus and then pivot Focus but not having hard barriers really
helps me, but it can feel overwhelming at times.
And it can just feel like in this season alive, I've just
accepted less sleep, more knock knock right?
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Like that's just that's okay. Like probably until I'm married
it's going to be the reality if I want to keep doing all the
things from doing. So yeah, that's a little bit of
how I kind of how I view it. Um, both of you are running this
podcast and you have to you haveto do things on social media.
What have you found like in yourpersonalized with social media?
Like do you, if you could, if there was a button, let's
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imagine. Okay, there's a button.
Imagine what here's the button. Don't press it.
Don't miss yet. Here's a button, right?
If you could press it, and if you pressed into it and then
social media is gone, would you do it?
And if Why? And then if not why not, what I
do, ask me this awesome. I wanna hear Josh, I answered.
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No, I would not hit the button, why?
Because I feel like social mediacan be such a tool when used in
the correct way. I feel like if I could hit a
button and like restart restart social media, I would probably
do that instead. Okay, how what would you say is
using at the proper way? I think a lot of times like it's
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so difficult I think before, like when social media, first
came out, it was cool. Because like, we didn't have a
way to interact with people Beyond like, the on
face-to-face, and this gave us an opportunity to do that.
But then once people start to get like addicted to it, there
wasn't any sort of like control.There wasn't sort of any
boundary you could go. Like you could be on social
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media for however long you wouldwant because it's on your
control. So, I feel like I can't with you
too. I feel like I would create a
sort of boundary on it, too. I don't know.
It's all it's a lot more dependent on.
The user for how it affects you.Yeah.
So I feel like individuality individuality for sure with
social media, so I think it justbecomes down to the person, so
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if I could rework it, it would be in a sense where like I would
take out and I don't know how this would work.
So don't ask me how but not if you could rework it in a sense
to where the how addicted you get to, it wasn't dependent so
much on the user. Totally that's good.
I'll just say this that if you want to hear my answer and go
look at our last yes we talked about it, run up those Come on.
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I'm really good answer. He's almost one of the you're
like number two I think for the highest listen to episode that
guy's wiener one. Yeah.
I know for real, what's the problem?
It is Doctor okay, okay, I will,you'll be the, you'll be the
queen to scan you. Well, can I be looking this?
Be the prince and I'll be the prince.
You can be the prince? Okay.
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Yeah, I cancel. Culture is so prevalent like on
social media were talking about,we are talking about social
media. Why do you think they canceled
culture is? The thing is, why do you think
that people? To silence people that don't
have the same opinion as them because I find it sometimes I'll
be like seeing something that I don't want to hear and I'll be
like get out of here. Like what I'm gonna do?
I don't wanna hear you but then I have to check myself and I
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have to be like wait no these are people, they deserve a
chance to speak. They deserve a chance to have
their space to talk. They deserve the freedom to
speak whether you're viewing it from an American or just even
like I want to be a good person to everyone kind of you.
Why do you think that that is that just the natural human
condition? We Naturally Oz Society just
want it. Can everybody that we disagree
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with for any reason in the ironic part on social media is
like you as an individual already.
Can you can unfriend, you can unfollow.
You can just choose, I don't want to see their posts and
that's okay. But now we just think okay?
Somebody did something that I don't like or the makes me
uncomfortable. Yeah, and also, I would say this
like you grow through having your positions Challenge and if
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we and I'm not talking about, okay, let's not even get into
Super extremes, right? Like yeah somebody is calling
for violence new other stuff. I'm not talking about, I'm
talking about somebody just shares an unpopular opinion that
is not directly harmful in any way.
And we just want to shut them down or they said it into
something that they apologized for that was 10 years ago.
And we're like, what you no longer deserve to be a part of
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our society or heard part of ourculture.
And they're like, I don't I'm not that person anymore.
Like, no, but we just can them and I think a lot of it is
honestly rooted in Pride becauseit's like, I think That I'm
superior to them and if I were them I would have done this
instead of realizing like we're all flawed and we all have said
and done things that we regret like if I wasn't an Xbox, I
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don't know this. But like, look at the Xbox chat
logs or whatever. It's like if there's probably
only Marty likes. Yeah, I definitely go to jail.
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And so let's have a little bit of Grace for some people.
The and let's also understand it's not good for us to just
cancel every voice. We don't agree with.
We had that challenge. If you really believe and what
you stand for, you should not beafraid of a challenge.
Otherwise, I would say you probably don't believe in it.
Yeah. Also, I want to say I was I was
I didn't do anything to go to jail.
I just want to state that I did nothing criminally.
I had no criminal Behavior, it was just a joke.
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But I completely agree with you in the sense of like, if you
don't like what you're seeing, you can just like unfollow it.
And then if you're going to start canceling people.
Because you don't agree with them.
Okay. So then like what is the line?
Yeah. Like what is like what is your
on the boundary? If you're going to create a
boundary that it's not freedom of speech and I feel like that's
what you have to keep in mind. It's like yeah, we might not
agree with some people and yeah,they're takes might be
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completely outrageous, but that still gives, that doesn't take
away their right to speak and I think you need to see the
humanity and people and I think that's forgotten because you're
looking at them to her screen. You're not looking at them
physically as a human. And that's where this keyboard
Warrior syndrome as I call, it comes out is because there they
You don't not actually senior seeing the human right?
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You're seeing oh there are humanbut you're not actually seeing
the humanity, the tangent, like the physical tangible, you're
not feeling the emotions, you'renot, you're getting.
I think it's like 23 or seven percent whatever one of those
two percent of conversation where as 55% of conversation is
actually just body language and physical body language and
you're not experiencing that if you're not living with them.
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I think it's 55. Yeah.
Oh no. But you're right.
Communications major man. No 77 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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You gotta like, humble yourself on this, right?
I'm going through something likethis, like, seasonal, like being
humble and it's like, if you want to cancel someone, it's
like a gay, humble yourself first.
Because if you're trying to cancel, it's like, it's like the
verse in the Bible. I can't remember the exact
thing, but it's like, okay, if you're trying to pick on a
speck, in your brother's eye, look at the log that you have in
your own. I feel like that's a lot of
cancel culture. We're trying to, we're trying to
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tweak and make sure people are saying the right thing.
That's like, what, like, what are you saying?
Yeah, and I also think it's likedo unto others as You would like
them to do unto the Golden Rule.Yeah.
The Golden Rule. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. It's excuses.
Everything people do and say butit is think there's room for
grace and forgiveness. Yeah.
For stuff that people have done and there's also room for
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disagreement we need to disagreeas yeah body.
Otherwise they become really leak.
Yeah. There's room for conversation
and yeah and there's a I think it's a feel-good culture, mainly
put by social media because it'sthese quick politicians.
You're feeling good feeling goodagain that dopamine high and I
think. Now what's going on is like Pu
anything that like when they're scrolling, right?
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They're scrolling feel good. Feel good, feel good, feel good.
And then they get to that thing and they're like, oh, I don't
like that, I don't want to deal with that at all and then
they'll cut that. They'll be like, okay, how do I
cut that out? Then they'll go to their friends
who also have the same opinions as them which is also another
thing. You need to have people around
you who challenged you disagree disagree because you're never
going to grow if you don't have that and I think it's just this
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feel good and then all her feel good or his feel good.
People are all like, oh, let's cancel this person for their
feel good. For their thing.
That doesn't make us feel good. And I think that's that's part
of it. Also, what we talked about
before hand? Do you think aliens are real?
Oh, this is so good. And I'm here for the best.
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Yeah, they're pretty. They're pretty nice.
I'm going to hold both of them unless you want yours.
I can hold my PB&J. Yeah.
Do I think aliens are real? I have, I can either nor confirm
nor deny that aliens are real, but I believe that.
Yes, Make Dua, he should be selling
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anything about aliens and pyramids, in sightings, and the
government and many things that have got me questioning, quite a
few of my thoughts. Yeah, so I am undecided man,
and, and Christians get weird about that because you can't be
aliens know that I've, I've listened to some, like, the
biblical alien stuff like unlikeHistory Channel, and not saying
that is true or anything, but it's very fascinating.
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Yeah, I want to sit down becauseit's not a topic I've dove into
a lot from a In perspective, I want to sit down with somebody
who was like the Bible says aliens can be really like.
Why? Because I don't I don't I think
most of the time, I don't think it's nothing about it.
I don't really think there's anything about this necessarily
unbiblical. I know I think it's people have
to rationalize diver. They don't understand and I
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think that's why if they see something on their phone that
they're like, oh I don't like that.
Yeah, they're going. They're gonna be like I don't
understand that I'm gonna cut you off.
I know I've seen that with a lotof people and they don't want to
accept certain people for certain things and leaves are
other humans. Why can't they just be yeah,
yelling, I think people Whoa, It's good to think I do, I
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think people because your brain.Yeah, it's good to just be with
your thoughts in the morning. Something that I've started
doing is I put soundproof headphones on until I like have
to hear something from someone, I have to talk to somebody.
Yeah, I I will keep soundproof headphones on.
I can't hear anything. And I'm just with my thoughts,
huh? It's crazy.
Interesting because I'm scared of honestly I'm scared of being
with myself and hearing like hearing my thoughts and being
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with that. So I'll listen to a podcast or
listen to music or be on Instagram whatever you face it
but I have to face it now I'm going to I'm making myself
confront it and And it's been really good.
And I think that's something that people should really be a
thrilling place to be in the mind of Solomon.
Yeah, that's pretty scary. It's just so fascinating.
It's so fast. It's like going 1,000 miles per
hour. Yeah, I think just in general
would be fascinating to be in the mind of anyone else because
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like yeah cuz like Solomon such a cool guy and his brain works
such in a cool way but it's liketo be like I think we don't we
don't really see how different like we all think sometimes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like even like me and you think similarly but like what goes on
in here? Do we?
I think it I think it was no. Okay.
Okay. I think it in some aspects but
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like that's what I'm saying. Like the way we think.
I don't think it's like similar at.
Yeah yeah yeah what would you say are my generation your
generation. What would you say are the
biggest strengths? We saying?
We're in the same generation. I really know my generation.
Your generation referring to thetwo different generation.
Think we're the same. I'm just dizzy.
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How is he? 21.
We're okay epic gamer. Yeah, what do you think?
Are our strengths as a generation?
Oh okay. Our strength in this generation
I think the The will behind whatwe believe is.
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So it's a strength, right? Like with with our generation,
when we think something is the truth, when we believe in
something, we will not like, back down from it, I feel like
and it could be, it could also be a weakness to, but it's like
it's almost on a line of like stubbornness.
And it's like, not that we're not open to hearing other people
really like, we believe what we believe, and we're not gonna
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like, let that like shake or fade because of like what other
people are saying to us. So I feel like that can be huge.
Yeah, we I think we are. We are like, we will not settle
for something that's fake. We want, we want something that
is pure and real. Yeah, yeah.
And I think that's like even seean app like be real.
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That's my be real, is like huge,and it just like, was like, some
random social media app, but yeah.
Like, people want to like, see real life.
They want like yeah, legitimacy.Yeah.
What do you think? Are our biggest weaknesses as a
generation? Hmm.
I think this feels like a solo interview but these are this.
Yeah, because I really want to pack no weakness as a
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generation. I think I think it definitely
has a weakness is we grew up especially like our generator
right? So say are you like at the end
of our generation? Yeah I'm like let's say you're
at the end and you're at the start of it right?
All you oldie drawing first. Yeah.
Sara Lee through like buses exist.
We didn't we didn't we weren't born.
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When with social media, but we grew up with.
Yeah, I feel like that in itselfwas a weakness.
There's the button. No.
Because if I could change it I would I wouldn't eliminate it
and I think growing up with social media definitely impacts
our social ability for sure and I think that is a weakness of
Our Generation that we have we've grown up and especially
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like as of like right now we arelike living in a day and age of
like We just communicate on our phone way too much.
We're just on our phone way too much and I feel like if we got
away from that, we could really be like changing the world.
Like and I know you you are really doing some cool things
and like your screen time is probably like ten percent
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compared to like the average like gen Z.
Yeah. An hour and 41 minutes to hours.
Yeah, it's insane. I mean, - like four hours but I
mean, I'd watch a lot of like, videos and stuff on my phone.
I just like, listen to it. It's like the screen is on but
I'm not really watching it. Yeah.
But yeah, I do. We say how addicted we are Turf
phones as a generation is definitely a.
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Yeah. And I think it easy solution to
that whether you like whether you want it or not, I think you
should set it down time or have someone as an accountability
partner set down time on your phone.
I know, successful people who literally run like multi-million
dollar companies and their spouse or their friend or their
business partner will set a downtime on their phone and
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these are people who like need to be on.
Their phone. But once they hit that, whatever
certain our limit, they're done,and they can send a request to
that person. And that person can be like,
calm up. Oh, what do you need this for?
Yeah, and they'll be like, okay,I need to do.
This is for work and they'll be like okay you got 15 more
minutes and it's you're treatingthem, you're treating yourself
like a child because when it comes to like social media and
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not high, it can become addictive and you act like an
addict or a child because it feels so good and you don't have
that self-control. Yeah, and then once you do the
down time, you build that self-control because Restricting
yourself from getting that double.
Yeah, this obviously this goes back to how you talking about
that. Feel good.
We get from social media. I think it's because we're so
dedicated to it. That when we do experience,
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something that doesn't make us feel good.
Because we've been so attached to it, like scrolling, making us
feel good, and feel good, and algorithms on our phone, just
like, feed into that when we don't get something like that,
like, that that's when it goes into cancel culture.
So, I think this that that definitely like connects to that
for sure. Yeah.
I think it's like a widely accepted.
A drug in a way because he givesyes, it gives you like it's
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addictive. You have.
No, literally is dopamine. It is a job in it.
Yeah. You have withdrawals.
If you try and do it, you're gonna go do it.
Whether you're like not that you're like sweating and like
freaking out and Buzz. The fan is about.
Yeah. Phantom vibrations and station.
That's what it's called. Yep.
That's what we call it. Yeah.
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Many aspects of sodium. It's the key to success with
your family. You need so much every aspect of
your life, I think that's important.
Can I have on my last meal for, I listened to the last episode,
but like I would also say this one of the weaknesses are one of
the strengths of this generationI think is drive, right?
I think there is actually a lot of motivation.
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I think the next generation wants to Crazy big things.
I think their dream, I think they're dreamers.
I think that they're innovators,and I think their dream nouriel.
I think they're all of those things.
Yeah, but and we just talked about this in our episode.
I think one of the lacks is the discipline to go along with the
drive, right? And so the reason being I think
you hit on it, we've so many distractions in our way that
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just limit the potential limit the capacity.
Yes, I think we need to find ways through accountability to
make sure that what we're devoting our time to is building
the disciplines with the drive to get us to the destination
that we want to arrive at. Wow, analogies.
That's good. Um, in your opinion, what would
you say is the biggest problem in the world right now?
Oh, oh. Oh wow.
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Wow. What I think about on a daily
basis right now, will you know my answer?
My answer. I'm a pastor.
Yeah, it's going to be this, shethe wheat.
No. The we need to do a better job
of not just talking about Jesus but showing Jesus as because I
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think if you truly I think of the world truly got Jesus a lot
and I'm trying to be everything spiritual their real problems.
There are Absolutely, but I think Jesus is a real solution
as well, right? And so you ask the pastor onto
your set on to our set your show, and I think that if people
if the church would not just know Jesus, but show Jesus.
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Whoo, here, I'm such a lot different if we would become, if
people can encounter him for whohe really is.
And he a lot of problems begin to dissipate because all
problems at the end of the day, start in the heart.
Yeah. Like their manifest through
actions and decisions, but it all flows from the heart and so
if you can change someone's heart, you can change what
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practically is going on. So I think to me that's the
biggest problem is we have a church at least in Western
culture that has grown so, comfortable and stepped back.
And even the most bold within the church are.
So reserved historically speaking and globally speaking
that the do has really only on. Yeah, they're not actually
willing to do radical things to shift.
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Lift the trajectory of the worldthrough the gospel like we once
were and so we need a group to rise up.
Yeah, we'll really really walk in that and take that calling
on. Yeah, I think in this kind of
plays into that too, I think thebiggest problem in the world
today is that a lot of people don't do this, but are afraid to
do this and we need to start doing is we need to be, we need
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to First understand that you canbe honest and honor someone at
the same time. And we need to always show that,
right? Because I feel like That comes
down like the whole church thing, right?
If you are, if you are honoring people and you are honest than
those things will happen. Like truly, if you are truly
honoring and you are truly honest with yourself, and with
other people, those things will happen.
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And I think just generally in life, we need to be able to
honor people the correct way andshow them love.
But at the same time, be honest with them and do it in a healthy
way. And I think it's we talked about
this on your episode but it's you have to be at a certain
level of rapport with those people that you can actually
speak into it because you can't just treat them with honor and
be honest with them. You also have to have that
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relationship with them and sometimes it's really quick.
Like I was working last night with this girl and we were, we
hit it off so well, that we werelike, we just started talking
about like, where we're at spiritually and we were like
talking about religion while we're scooping ice cream.
Like it was insane and I can't do that with everyone.
Yeah. And some people will get hurt by
that they'll get offended by that.
And that's okay. Yeah.
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I think there's levels to it. Those like yeah.
That's a very good. Like that's a Level of being
honest in showing honor, but knowing when to speak, yeah,
it's knowing when to speak, but like, you can also show honor
and be honest with like a random, stranger, yes, true.
You don't have to be like, yes. This is where I'm at spiritually
with God and like these are The Temptations.
I'm going through anything. Yeah.
I've experienced a lot of loss right now, and it's like, no,
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but you can show a genuine honorand respect toward anyone you
encounter. And like, yeah.
And I feel like if everyone did that, a lot of the problems in
today's world would be fixed. Yeah, so Going to do kind of
like the last segment or like the lightning round.
Oh, love it. How how do you how do you define
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success? Hmm, you go, okay, I think
success for me is becoming the man of God that God's made me to
be but more practically. It's doing the things and
building the habits consistentlyevery day that Success because I
could be like, success is like, when our podcast, it's x amount
subscribers, or x amount of listens, or when we get
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monetize, right? I think those should be goals
in, those are great. But I think success is working
towards the person that I want to become and in doing that
requires consistency. Like what brother Craig says
love brother Craig groeschel. He says what great people do
consistently or what? Average me I would people do
occasionally. It's so for me, success is doing
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the things I need to do in order.
Order to become the person. I need to become on an everyday
basis. And we're like, what I do that
when I, when I go to sleep at the end of the day, and I'm
like, wow, I really worked on myself today.
I did this, this and this obviously, I'm not perfect,
right? But if I'm learning and I'm
working surprisingly shocker, guys.
But, um, if I'm, if I'm learningand I'm working.
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Yeah. Towards that consistently that
success. Yeah.
I think in a nutshell, I would say.
Success to me is doing whatever God calls me to do.
I'd also say that Lot of accounts already told me to do
is written in its word and so I know and so making those daily
disciplines within my life. Yeah.
Right. And I think that can get as
practical as your physical health, which is what really
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inspired me to get serious aboutthis, everyone thinks it's a
wedding and really wasn't. It was a spiritual revelation of
the, the impact of that house onmy life right now.
I think down to what you think about.
I think down to how you treat other people like the really
practical disciplines. I don't just mean what God tells
me to do in some mystical sense,not like, what God's already
called me to. To do.
And I also think success is not a destination, it's just part of
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the journey, right? And so it's not just, I will be
successful, then success is whenever I think that's also
Craig. Whenever I choose where things
today, that's whenever you're living a success filled in a
successful life, or you'll feel satisfied is whenever day by day
hour by hour, your choosing and the Small Things, the little
things to reach out, someone to love somebody to act this way in
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to make the decisions and will form who I'm really called to
be. the last question is, I really want to know like you
guys are both amazing people. You are shocked people who are
growing. You are people who are
successful, both personally likeboth like in your personal life
and in like pretty much anythingyou try to do.
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What are you trying to overcome right now?
What's your biggest struggle? And then how do you think you're
going to do that? Oh I have a good answer.
How come the biggest struggle? That I'm going through right now
is learning that my life isn't aself.
Improvement project. Hmm.
And a sense of like yes, I love working and growing but at the
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same time, to celebrate the realize that it's not.
Like, I'm not building like we talked about, we talked about
this a lot and it's like, I'm like building a house and it's
like I built a house great. There's a whole bunch of holes
in the wall and I'm like, patching up all these holes and
I'm like, I just decorated the living room and it's like, I'm
just looking for the next thing.It's like, enjoy the place you
just made and likes it. Yeah, you have a house and yeah,
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my hovels and it, but at least you have, I have a constant like
I've been Old house in. Like a, what about the backyard?
What about the grass? What about the fence?
It's did you say it's more like having a healthier relation with
self-help like helping yourself?You know?
I mean, yeah, for sure. I think it's having a healthy
relationship with self help and I also think it definitely is
some things with me. Like in like being enough like
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being worthy enough just like friendly growing up having like
a performance-based like relationship with like different
like family members. That is like something.
I'm probably going right now. Get along, real North entik.
Totally I would say, you know this about me after all the
years, but I really love to dream and I really love to be
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big picture and I really love to.
Like I have crazy crazy big plans for my life that I believe
our Lord and all that and I can often times get really
discouraged whenever I'm like, Iknow I just talked about this
like it's in the success of the day but like that's what I'm
currently. Only learning is really like
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people would, look at me from the outside if I'm being honest.
And they would say you've been really successful, look at all
the things like you've accomplished with your life and
look where you're at. And I do not see myself that way
at all, because I'm saying, lookat where I need to be it.
Look at where I like, when I think about the dreams and
Ambitions that I want to pursue and where I want to be, I'm
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like, I'm nowhere near it. And so it's easy to get
discouraged and to get burnt outalong the way.
But every once in, All taking a step or taking a moment to just
step back. And to look and to realize, yes,
I am going to pursue the dreams of all that I have, but let's
not miss this moment and to kindof celebrate it as well in terms
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of everything that has already occurred.
Totally. Yeah, I feel the same way as you
and like trying to like because it just seems like I'm in a like
I'm in a permanent state of trying, which can be exhausting.
And I have to like when I like Ikind of get to a point where Hit
like that limit where I've triedso much that it's it's, um, it's
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exhausting and I need a break and then I shame myself her
taking a break. Yeah.
And instead, I've switched my mindset just recently is instead
of viewing as I'm trying to do this and I have this goal that
I'm trying to get to its I'm training and it's a permanent
State versus a temporary or goalweight goal, get their goal get
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there. It's no it's a linear path that
I'm walking every single day. And if I need to go, there's a
cool bench or a great view, I'm gonna go over there and do that
and enjoy that. Yeah, it'll come back and keep
walking and it's having that Grace for yourselves really so
you're not attempting to do something.
You are doing something and it'slike in that you can relax
hundred percent. Yeah, breaks yeah.
Yeah yeah. Thank you guys for being on the
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podcast. You thank you.
Is amazing conversation, honor being on I want to have you guys
back on next week. I'm just going to happen and I
think it's you know it's wax on wax off.
We should do a waxing of the armpits.
With live wax. On wax off.
Let's do it. One leg hair.
Welcome to wax on wax off. Podcast were a teenager gains
wisdom and insight from pioneersand innovators that have come
before. Search of had a win in every
facet of life and change the world.
I'm your host Solomon Cole. Let's get into today's episode.
So, for today's episode, I'm notin my room, I don't know where I
am. I'm just kidding.
I am in the studio of the who needs a name podcast with PB and
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J. And that's exactly who I'm
talking today. Welcome Pastor, Brandon who has
been on the episode before and amr.
Josh balog. Hey, what's up Solomon?
Yeah, I'm so happy to have you guys here.
Yep round two he just did for for these guys podcast and I
(00:51):
love what you guys are doing number one and I love that you
guys are creating content and doing something as friends to.
I think it's really awesome. Thanks, they were our first
guest. You were right?
Yeah. I kind of want to ask.
What do you do whether that's career or whatever when why do
you do it? Yeah.
Josh. Okay.
(01:11):
So I think the whatever was directed towards me because I
don't do much right now but no. So who am I and what do I do?
Yeah. What are you doing?
Why do you do it? Okay.
I guess you could tell them a little bit about yourself.
Like what's your favorite food and color?
Alright, my favorite food is talk is my favorite color is Is
orange. And what do I flipped it?
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My favorite colors tacos. My dear, I say that wrong.
No, just kidding. Okay, so I'm a recent college
graduate. Come on Robert Morris
University. So I'm currently looking for a
job like full-time within that. But right now, I work part-time
at a Target and I work full-timewith who needs a name.
Yeah, what Cassie. Yeah.
And I guess, and I do that because I really think God has
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put on my heart to share the wisdom and to just teach people
about things that I've learned. Kind of go through life and
authentic way and especially with this guy, we just have
really good conversations on thephone and and we're just on the
same brain wave with that and sowe're just running with it.
Yeah, very cool. Need to pack this episode with
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so much depth within this systemthat we have, we have short
amount of time. Yep.
But we're not going to be a sense episode.
Yep. Also, I have to say, this is the
beginning. I'm so proud of you for your
podcast. Thank you.
Yes. Everyone.
Listen, this guy's amazing. He's the man.
I love you so much, and I'm so proud of you and I love being
apart any, thank you that you. He said, you asked.
So yeah, thank you. So, for the listeners who don't
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know what is your podcast? Oh, who needs a name with PB&J?
It is a pod cast set around reallife, real combos, row guys.
So there's so many and especially in the Christian
world that we live in. There are so many conversations
that take place but they can feel kind of phony.
They can feel kind of fake and so, just a space, have real
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conversations about things that really matter that hopefully
will add value to the lives of those who listen and practical
and applicable ways. Yeah.
What did it take? For both of you to start your
podcast both like practically and then like habitually.
Mmm. So I think we should just start
from like the beginning, right? I had to go on a school trip.
What I didn't have to. I did this project for my final
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and I had to drive to Lake Erie and I ask is gone like hey do
you want to come with me? And so we did this drive-in on
the way back. We're like dude we should really
do a podcast and we just startedbecause all of our car ride
combat. Yeah, some good words.
Like this is so good. We need to like share this.
And so at that time we created anote and others not pages on
notes, but it was the real like we had what we needed.
(04:34):
And who are you going to like potential guests?
We had potential topics. How long the episodes were going
to be what all we needed software, wise, set wise.
We were going through all these things.
Yeah, and we were just like going back and forth about like
the different ideas and we just kept spinning each other or
spinning ideas back and forth and that kept going for like a
week or so. Yeah.
And then we're like okay we justneeds to like get off the
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ground. Like what is the first step we
need to do? And it's like we're like, okay,
this is when we're going to record the first episode, we
pick the date and then I It a lot of the technical stuff
because, you know, computer science, major side like no lot
of this stuff and I've recorded hire him.
Yeah, yeah. Hire me the job but this is
actually really cool because before this I started doing not
(05:16):
a lot of YouTube but I did like I Inspire Collective Recaps of
like this guy's messages and I would post them.
So it's already familiar with editing.
I was familiar with recording and that was kind of like an
easy transition into this. Yeah, we kind of just figured
out a set. He got a new apartment so it was
like we just had a studio there.There, yeah.
And we, yeah, right here. Yeah, 100%.
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And so, really started as like this wild idea that within, like
four weeks, this guy especially help to pull together.
A lot of the Practical things and still right now, I mean he
does a lot of content creation, which I'm so thankful for it
because sometimes I feel like I'm a Madman running around with
my head cut off, or whatever thesaying is.
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It's not it, but he just pours in so much time and energy and
we've kind of just What do you get out with him?
I get out. But how do you go beyond the
dream into actual like, because I'm a dreamer right?
Like, I like to think we should do this, we should it out and
currently I feel like in the middle of starting like eight
different things right, and I love that.
But to actually execute, I thinktook a lot of intentionality, a
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lot of planning and just a lot of tracking like, what are we
doing? What are we doing?
And we have set recording times.We have topics, we have just a
whole structure in place to helpsupport the dream to get where
you need to go. Yeah, has it been Hard for you.
Like having all those things on your plate and having to figure
out the balance on, I guess. Like how did you find that
balance? Yeah, so I like to view
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everything in my life not as a balance but an integration and
so there aren't these dividers or these barriers or walls with.
Okay. This for this portion of my
life, I'm going to pass our people.
And for this portion I'm going to do a podcast and this portion
of a new Scully. I don't really like to do that.
I like to just think okay? These are all the things and all
the dreams and all the Ambitionsand All the time I have.
(07:05):
Let's integrate them all becauselike you I'm like ADHD right.
Like I that so actually having different things where I can
focus and then pivot Focus but not having hard barriers really
helps me, but it can feel overwhelming at times.
And it can just feel like in this season alive, I've just
accepted less sleep, more knock knock right?
(07:25):
Like that's just that's okay. Like probably until I'm married
it's going to be the reality if I want to keep doing all the
things from doing. So yeah, that's a little bit of
how I kind of how I view it. Um, both of you are running this
podcast and you have to you haveto do things on social media.
What have you found like in yourpersonalized with social media?
Like do you, if you could, if there was a button, let's
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imagine. Okay, there's a button.
Imagine what here's the button. Don't press it.
Don't miss yet. Here's a button, right?
If you could press it, and if you pressed into it and then
social media is gone, would you do it?
And if Why? And then if not why not, what I
do, ask me this awesome. I wanna hear Josh, I answered.
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No, I would not hit the button, why?
Because I feel like social mediacan be such a tool when used in
the correct way. I feel like if I could hit a
button and like restart restart social media, I would probably
do that instead. Okay, how what would you say is
using at the proper way? I think a lot of times like it's
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so difficult I think before, like when social media, first
came out, it was cool. Because like, we didn't have a
way to interact with people Beyond like, the on
face-to-face, and this gave us an opportunity to do that.
But then once people start to get like addicted to it, there
wasn't any sort of like control.There wasn't sort of any
boundary you could go. Like you could be on social
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media for however long you wouldwant because it's on your
control. So, I feel like I can't with you
too. I feel like I would create a
sort of boundary on it, too. I don't know.
It's all it's a lot more dependent on.
The user for how it affects you.Yeah.
So I feel like individuality individuality for sure with
social media, so I think it justbecomes down to the person, so
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if I could rework it, it would be in a sense where like I would
take out and I don't know how this would work.
So don't ask me how but not if you could rework it in a sense
to where the how addicted you get to, it wasn't dependent so
much on the user. Totally that's good.
I'll just say this that if you want to hear my answer and go
look at our last yes we talked about it, run up those Come on.
(09:34):
I'm really good answer. He's almost one of the you're
like number two I think for the highest listen to episode that
guy's wiener one. Yeah.
I know for real, what's the problem?
It is Doctor okay, okay, I will,you'll be the, you'll be the
queen to scan you. Well, can I be looking this?
Be the prince and I'll be the prince.
You can be the prince? Okay.
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Yeah, I cancel. Culture is so prevalent like on
social media were talking about,we are talking about social
media. Why do you think they canceled
culture is? The thing is, why do you think
that people? To silence people that don't
have the same opinion as them because I find it sometimes I'll
be like seeing something that I don't want to hear and I'll be
like get out of here. Like what I'm gonna do?
I don't wanna hear you but then I have to check myself and I
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have to be like wait no these are people, they deserve a
chance to speak. They deserve a chance to have
their space to talk. They deserve the freedom to
speak whether you're viewing it from an American or just even
like I want to be a good person to everyone kind of you.
Why do you think that that is that just the natural human
condition? We Naturally Oz Society just
want it. Can everybody that we disagree
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with for any reason in the ironic part on social media is
like you as an individual already.
Can you can unfriend, you can unfollow.
You can just choose, I don't want to see their posts and
that's okay. But now we just think okay?
Somebody did something that I don't like or the makes me
uncomfortable. Yeah, and also, I would say this
like you grow through having your positions Challenge and if
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we and I'm not talking about, okay, let's not even get into
Super extremes, right? Like yeah somebody is calling
for violence new other stuff. I'm not talking about, I'm
talking about somebody just shares an unpopular opinion that
is not directly harmful in any way.
And we just want to shut them down or they said it into
something that they apologized for that was 10 years ago.
And we're like, what you no longer deserve to be a part of
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our society or heard part of ourculture.
And they're like, I don't I'm not that person anymore.
Like, no, but we just can them and I think a lot of it is
honestly rooted in Pride becauseit's like, I think That I'm
superior to them and if I were them I would have done this
instead of realizing like we're all flawed and we all have said
and done things that we regret like if I wasn't an Xbox, I
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don't know this. But like, look at the Xbox chat
logs or whatever. It's like if there's probably
only Marty likes. Yeah, I definitely go to jail.
(12:04):
And so let's have a little bit of Grace for some people.
The and let's also understand it's not good for us to just
cancel every voice. We don't agree with.
We had that challenge. If you really believe and what
you stand for, you should not beafraid of a challenge.
Otherwise, I would say you probably don't believe in it.
Yeah. Also, I want to say I was I was
I didn't do anything to go to jail.
I just want to state that I did nothing criminally.
I had no criminal Behavior, it was just a joke.
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But I completely agree with you in the sense of like, if you
don't like what you're seeing, you can just like unfollow it.
And then if you're going to start canceling people.
Because you don't agree with them.
Okay. So then like what is the line?
Yeah. Like what is like what is your
on the boundary? If you're going to create a
boundary that it's not freedom of speech and I feel like that's
what you have to keep in mind. It's like yeah, we might not
agree with some people and yeah,they're takes might be
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completely outrageous, but that still gives, that doesn't take
away their right to speak and I think you need to see the
humanity and people and I think that's forgotten because you're
looking at them to her screen. You're not looking at them
physically as a human. And that's where this keyboard
Warrior syndrome as I call, it comes out is because there they
You don't not actually senior seeing the human right?
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You're seeing oh there are humanbut you're not actually seeing
the humanity, the tangent, like the physical tangible, you're
not feeling the emotions, you'renot, you're getting.
I think it's like 23 or seven percent whatever one of those
two percent of conversation where as 55% of conversation is
actually just body language and physical body language and
you're not experiencing that if you're not living with them.
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I think it's 55. Yeah.
Oh no. But you're right.
Communications major man. No 77 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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You gotta like, humble yourself on this, right?
I'm going through something likethis, like, seasonal, like being
humble and it's like, if you want to cancel someone, it's
like a gay, humble yourself first.
Because if you're trying to cancel, it's like, it's like the
verse in the Bible. I can't remember the exact
thing, but it's like, okay, if you're trying to pick on a
speck, in your brother's eye, look at the log that you have in
your own. I feel like that's a lot of
cancel culture. We're trying to, we're trying to
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tweak and make sure people are saying the right thing.
That's like, what, like, what are you saying?
Yeah, and I also think it's likedo unto others as You would like
them to do unto the Golden Rule.Yeah.
The Golden Rule. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. It's excuses.
Everything people do and say butit is think there's room for
grace and forgiveness. Yeah.
For stuff that people have done and there's also room for
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disagreement we need to disagreeas yeah body.
Otherwise they become really leak.
Yeah. There's room for conversation
and yeah and there's a I think it's a feel-good culture, mainly
put by social media because it'sthese quick politicians.
You're feeling good feeling goodagain that dopamine high and I
think. Now what's going on is like Pu
anything that like when they're scrolling, right?
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They're scrolling feel good. Feel good, feel good, feel good.
And then they get to that thing and they're like, oh, I don't
like that, I don't want to deal with that at all and then
they'll cut that. They'll be like, okay, how do I
cut that out? Then they'll go to their friends
who also have the same opinions as them which is also another
thing. You need to have people around
you who challenged you disagree disagree because you're never
going to grow if you don't have that and I think it's just this
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feel good and then all her feel good or his feel good.
People are all like, oh, let's cancel this person for their
feel good. For their thing.
That doesn't make us feel good. And I think that's that's part
of it. Also, what we talked about
before hand? Do you think aliens are real?
Oh, this is so good. And I'm here for the best.
(15:50):
Yeah, they're pretty. They're pretty nice.
I'm going to hold both of them unless you want yours.
I can hold my PB&J. Yeah.
Do I think aliens are real? I have, I can either nor confirm
nor deny that aliens are real, but I believe that.
Yes, Make Dua, he should be selling
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anything about aliens and pyramids, in sightings, and the
government and many things that have got me questioning, quite a
few of my thoughts. Yeah, so I am undecided man,
and, and Christians get weird about that because you can't be
aliens know that I've, I've listened to some, like, the
biblical alien stuff like unlikeHistory Channel, and not saying
that is true or anything, but it's very fascinating.
(16:54):
Yeah, I want to sit down becauseit's not a topic I've dove into
a lot from a In perspective, I want to sit down with somebody
who was like the Bible says aliens can be really like.
Why? Because I don't I don't I think
most of the time, I don't think it's nothing about it.
I don't really think there's anything about this necessarily
unbiblical. I know I think it's people have
to rationalize diver. They don't understand and I
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think that's why if they see something on their phone that
they're like, oh I don't like that.
Yeah, they're going. They're gonna be like I don't
understand that I'm gonna cut you off.
I know I've seen that with a lotof people and they don't want to
accept certain people for certain things and leaves are
other humans. Why can't they just be yeah,
yelling, I think people Whoa, It's good to think I do, I
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think people because your brain.Yeah, it's good to just be with
your thoughts in the morning. Something that I've started
doing is I put soundproof headphones on until I like have
to hear something from someone, I have to talk to somebody.
Yeah, I I will keep soundproof headphones on.
I can't hear anything. And I'm just with my thoughts,
huh? It's crazy.
Interesting because I'm scared of honestly I'm scared of being
with myself and hearing like hearing my thoughts and being
(19:00):
with that. So I'll listen to a podcast or
listen to music or be on Instagram whatever you face it
but I have to face it now I'm going to I'm making myself
confront it and And it's been really good.
And I think that's something that people should really be a
thrilling place to be in the mind of Solomon.
Yeah, that's pretty scary. It's just so fascinating.
It's so fast. It's like going 1,000 miles per
hour. Yeah, I think just in general
would be fascinating to be in the mind of anyone else because
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like yeah cuz like Solomon such a cool guy and his brain works
such in a cool way but it's liketo be like I think we don't we
don't really see how different like we all think sometimes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like even like me and you think similarly but like what goes on
in here? Do we?
I think it I think it was no. Okay.
Okay. I think it in some aspects but
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like that's what I'm saying. Like the way we think.
I don't think it's like similar at.
Yeah yeah yeah what would you say are my generation your
generation. What would you say are the
biggest strengths? We saying?
We're in the same generation. I really know my generation.
Your generation referring to thetwo different generation.
Think we're the same. I'm just dizzy.
(20:03):
How is he? 21.
We're okay epic gamer. Yeah, what do you think?
Are our strengths as a generation?
Oh okay. Our strength in this generation
I think the The will behind whatwe believe is.
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So it's a strength, right? Like with with our generation,
when we think something is the truth, when we believe in
something, we will not like, back down from it, I feel like
and it could be, it could also be a weakness to, but it's like
it's almost on a line of like stubbornness.
And it's like, not that we're not open to hearing other people
really like, we believe what we believe, and we're not gonna
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like, let that like shake or fade because of like what other
people are saying to us. So I feel like that can be huge.
Yeah, we I think we are. We are like, we will not settle
for something that's fake. We want, we want something that
is pure and real. Yeah, yeah.
And I think that's like even seean app like be real.
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That's my be real, is like huge,and it just like, was like, some
random social media app, but yeah.
Like, people want to like, see real life.
They want like yeah, legitimacy.Yeah.
What do you think? Are our biggest weaknesses as a
generation? Hmm.
I think this feels like a solo interview but these are this.
Yeah, because I really want to pack no weakness as a
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generation. I think I think it definitely
has a weakness is we grew up especially like our generator
right? So say are you like at the end
of our generation? Yeah I'm like let's say you're
at the end and you're at the start of it right?
All you oldie drawing first. Yeah.
Sara Lee through like buses exist.
We didn't we didn't we weren't born.
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When with social media, but we grew up with.
Yeah, I feel like that in itselfwas a weakness.
There's the button. No.
Because if I could change it I would I wouldn't eliminate it
and I think growing up with social media definitely impacts
our social ability for sure and I think that is a weakness of
Our Generation that we have we've grown up and especially
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like as of like right now we arelike living in a day and age of
like We just communicate on our phone way too much.
We're just on our phone way too much and I feel like if we got
away from that, we could really be like changing the world.
Like and I know you you are really doing some cool things
and like your screen time is probably like ten percent
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compared to like the average like gen Z.
Yeah. An hour and 41 minutes to hours.
Yeah, it's insane. I mean, - like four hours but I
mean, I'd watch a lot of like, videos and stuff on my phone.
I just like, listen to it. It's like the screen is on but
I'm not really watching it. Yeah.
But yeah, I do. We say how addicted we are Turf
phones as a generation is definitely a.
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Yeah. And I think it easy solution to
that whether you like whether you want it or not, I think you
should set it down time or have someone as an accountability
partner set down time on your phone.
I know, successful people who literally run like multi-million
dollar companies and their spouse or their friend or their
business partner will set a downtime on their phone and
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these are people who like need to be on.
Their phone. But once they hit that, whatever
certain our limit, they're done,and they can send a request to
that person. And that person can be like,
calm up. Oh, what do you need this for?
Yeah, and they'll be like, okay,I need to do.
This is for work and they'll be like okay you got 15 more
minutes and it's you're treatingthem, you're treating yourself
like a child because when it comes to like social media and
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not high, it can become addictive and you act like an
addict or a child because it feels so good and you don't have
that self-control. Yeah, and then once you do the
down time, you build that self-control because Restricting
yourself from getting that double.
Yeah, this obviously this goes back to how you talking about
that. Feel good.
We get from social media. I think it's because we're so
dedicated to it. That when we do experience,
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something that doesn't make us feel good.
Because we've been so attached to it, like scrolling, making us
feel good, and feel good, and algorithms on our phone, just
like, feed into that when we don't get something like that,
like, that that's when it goes into cancel culture.
So, I think this that that definitely like connects to that
for sure. Yeah.
I think it's like a widely accepted.
A drug in a way because he givesyes, it gives you like it's
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addictive. You have.
No, literally is dopamine. It is a job in it.
Yeah. You have withdrawals.
If you try and do it, you're gonna go do it.
Whether you're like not that you're like sweating and like
freaking out and Buzz. The fan is about.
Yeah. Phantom vibrations and station.
That's what it's called. Yep.
That's what we call it. Yeah.
(24:50):
Many aspects of sodium. It's the key to success with
your family. You need so much every aspect of
your life, I think that's important.
Can I have on my last meal for, I listened to the last episode,
but like I would also say this one of the weaknesses are one of
the strengths of this generationI think is drive, right?
I think there is actually a lot of motivation.
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I think the next generation wants to Crazy big things.
I think their dream, I think they're dreamers.
I think that they're innovators,and I think their dream nouriel.
I think they're all of those things.
Yeah, but and we just talked about this in our episode.
I think one of the lacks is the discipline to go along with the
drive, right? And so the reason being I think
you hit on it, we've so many distractions in our way that
(25:31):
just limit the potential limit the capacity.
Yes, I think we need to find ways through accountability to
make sure that what we're devoting our time to is building
the disciplines with the drive to get us to the destination
that we want to arrive at. Wow, analogies.
That's good. Um, in your opinion, what would
you say is the biggest problem in the world right now?
Oh, oh. Oh wow.
(25:54):
Wow. What I think about on a daily
basis right now, will you know my answer?
My answer. I'm a pastor.
Yeah, it's going to be this, shethe wheat.
No. The we need to do a better job
of not just talking about Jesus but showing Jesus as because I
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think if you truly I think of the world truly got Jesus a lot
and I'm trying to be everything spiritual their real problems.
There are Absolutely, but I think Jesus is a real solution
as well, right? And so you ask the pastor onto
your set on to our set your show, and I think that if people
if the church would not just know Jesus, but show Jesus.
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Whoo, here, I'm such a lot different if we would become, if
people can encounter him for whohe really is.
And he a lot of problems begin to dissipate because all
problems at the end of the day, start in the heart.
Yeah. Like their manifest through
actions and decisions, but it all flows from the heart and so
if you can change someone's heart, you can change what
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practically is going on. So I think to me that's the
biggest problem is we have a church at least in Western
culture that has grown so, comfortable and stepped back.
And even the most bold within the church are.
So reserved historically speaking and globally speaking
that the do has really only on. Yeah, they're not actually
willing to do radical things to shift.
(27:22):
Lift the trajectory of the worldthrough the gospel like we once
were and so we need a group to rise up.
Yeah, we'll really really walk in that and take that calling
on. Yeah, I think in this kind of
plays into that too, I think thebiggest problem in the world
today is that a lot of people don't do this, but are afraid to
do this and we need to start doing is we need to be, we need
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to First understand that you canbe honest and honor someone at
the same time. And we need to always show that,
right? Because I feel like That comes
down like the whole church thing, right?
If you are, if you are honoring people and you are honest than
those things will happen. Like truly, if you are truly
honoring and you are truly honest with yourself, and with
other people, those things will happen.
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And I think just generally in life, we need to be able to
honor people the correct way andshow them love.
But at the same time, be honest with them and do it in a healthy
way. And I think it's we talked about
this on your episode but it's you have to be at a certain
level of rapport with those people that you can actually
speak into it because you can't just treat them with honor and
be honest with them. You also have to have that
(28:29):
relationship with them and sometimes it's really quick.
Like I was working last night with this girl and we were, we
hit it off so well, that we werelike, we just started talking
about like, where we're at spiritually and we were like
talking about religion while we're scooping ice cream.
Like it was insane and I can't do that with everyone.
Yeah. And some people will get hurt by
that they'll get offended by that.
And that's okay. Yeah.
(28:49):
I think there's levels to it. Those like yeah.
That's a very good. Like that's a Level of being
honest in showing honor, but knowing when to speak, yeah,
it's knowing when to speak, but like, you can also show honor
and be honest with like a random, stranger, yes, true.
You don't have to be like, yes. This is where I'm at spiritually
with God and like these are The Temptations.
I'm going through anything. Yeah.
I've experienced a lot of loss right now, and it's like, no,
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but you can show a genuine honorand respect toward anyone you
encounter. And like, yeah.
And I feel like if everyone did that, a lot of the problems in
today's world would be fixed. Yeah, so Going to do kind of
like the last segment or like the lightning round.
Oh, love it. How how do you how do you define
(29:36):
success? Hmm, you go, okay, I think
success for me is becoming the man of God that God's made me to
be but more practically. It's doing the things and
building the habits consistentlyevery day that Success because I
could be like, success is like, when our podcast, it's x amount
subscribers, or x amount of listens, or when we get
(29:58):
monetize, right? I think those should be goals
in, those are great. But I think success is working
towards the person that I want to become and in doing that
requires consistency. Like what brother Craig says
love brother Craig groeschel. He says what great people do
consistently or what? Average me I would people do
occasionally. It's so for me, success is doing
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the things I need to do in order.
Order to become the person. I need to become on an everyday
basis. And we're like, what I do that
when I, when I go to sleep at the end of the day, and I'm
like, wow, I really worked on myself today.
I did this, this and this obviously, I'm not perfect,
right? But if I'm learning and I'm
working surprisingly shocker, guys.
But, um, if I'm, if I'm learningand I'm working.
(30:43):
Yeah. Towards that consistently that
success. Yeah.
I think in a nutshell, I would say.
Success to me is doing whatever God calls me to do.
I'd also say that Lot of accounts already told me to do
is written in its word and so I know and so making those daily
disciplines within my life. Yeah.
Right. And I think that can get as
practical as your physical health, which is what really
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inspired me to get serious aboutthis, everyone thinks it's a
wedding and really wasn't. It was a spiritual revelation of
the, the impact of that house onmy life right now.
I think down to what you think about.
I think down to how you treat other people like the really
practical disciplines. I don't just mean what God tells
me to do in some mystical sense,not like, what God's already
called me to. To do.
And I also think success is not a destination, it's just part of
(31:26):
the journey, right? And so it's not just, I will be
successful, then success is whenever I think that's also
Craig. Whenever I choose where things
today, that's whenever you're living a success filled in a
successful life, or you'll feel satisfied is whenever day by day
hour by hour, your choosing and the Small Things, the little
things to reach out, someone to love somebody to act this way in
(31:48):
to make the decisions and will form who I'm really called to
be. the last question is, I really want to know like you
guys are both amazing people. You are shocked people who are
growing. You are people who are
successful, both personally likeboth like in your personal life
and in like pretty much anythingyou try to do.
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What are you trying to overcome right now?
What's your biggest struggle? And then how do you think you're
going to do that? Oh I have a good answer.
How come the biggest struggle? That I'm going through right now
is learning that my life isn't aself.
Improvement project. Hmm.
And a sense of like yes, I love working and growing but at the
(32:31):
same time, to celebrate the realize that it's not.
Like, I'm not building like we talked about, we talked about
this a lot and it's like, I'm like building a house and it's
like I built a house great. There's a whole bunch of holes
in the wall and I'm like, patching up all these holes and
I'm like, I just decorated the living room and it's like, I'm
just looking for the next thing.It's like, enjoy the place you
just made and likes it. Yeah, you have a house and yeah,
(32:52):
my hovels and it, but at least you have, I have a constant like
I've been Old house in. Like a, what about the backyard?
What about the grass? What about the fence?
It's did you say it's more like having a healthier relation with
self-help like helping yourself?You know?
I mean, yeah, for sure. I think it's having a healthy
relationship with self help and I also think it definitely is
some things with me. Like in like being enough like
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being worthy enough just like friendly growing up having like
a performance-based like relationship with like different
like family members. That is like something.
I'm probably going right now. Get along, real North entik.
Totally I would say, you know this about me after all the
years, but I really love to dream and I really love to be
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big picture and I really love to.
Like I have crazy crazy big plans for my life that I believe
our Lord and all that and I can often times get really
discouraged whenever I'm like, Iknow I just talked about this
like it's in the success of the day but like that's what I'm
currently. Only learning is really like
(33:58):
people would, look at me from the outside if I'm being honest.
And they would say you've been really successful, look at all
the things like you've accomplished with your life and
look where you're at. And I do not see myself that way
at all, because I'm saying, lookat where I need to be it.
Look at where I like, when I think about the dreams and
Ambitions that I want to pursue and where I want to be, I'm
(34:18):
like, I'm nowhere near it. And so it's easy to get
discouraged and to get burnt outalong the way.
But every once in, All taking a step or taking a moment to just
step back. And to look and to realize, yes,
I am going to pursue the dreams of all that I have, but let's
not miss this moment and to kindof celebrate it as well in terms
(34:39):
of everything that has already occurred.
Totally. Yeah, I feel the same way as you
and like trying to like because it just seems like I'm in a like
I'm in a permanent state of trying, which can be exhausting.
And I have to like when I like Ikind of get to a point where Hit
like that limit where I've triedso much that it's it's, um, it's
(35:00):
exhausting and I need a break and then I shame myself her
taking a break. Yeah.
And instead, I've switched my mindset just recently is instead
of viewing as I'm trying to do this and I have this goal that
I'm trying to get to its I'm training and it's a permanent
State versus a temporary or goalweight goal, get their goal get
(35:21):
there. It's no it's a linear path that
I'm walking every single day. And if I need to go, there's a
cool bench or a great view, I'm gonna go over there and do that
and enjoy that. Yeah, it'll come back and keep
walking and it's having that Grace for yourselves really so
you're not attempting to do something.
You are doing something and it'slike in that you can relax
hundred percent. Yeah, breaks yeah.
Yeah yeah. Thank you guys for being on the
(35:41):
podcast. You thank you.
Is amazing conversation, honor being on I want to have you guys
back on next week. I'm just going to happen and I
think it's you know it's wax on wax off.
We should do a waxing of the armpits.
With live wax. On wax off.
Let's do it. One leg hair.
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