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Welcome to wax on wax off the podcast, where a teenager gains
wisdom and insight from pioneersand innovators that have come
before in search of how to win in every facet of life and
change the world. I'm your host Solomon Colt and
let's get into today's episode. Today's guest is an
entrepreneur, certified brain health coach, bio hacker,
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extraordinaire author, the host of the brain, biohacking podcast
with. Well, I'm about to tell you her
name. I'm so blessed to welcome to wax
on wax off. Today's modern day, mr.
Miyagi Kayla Barnes Kayla. I'm so happy to have you on the
podcast. I'm really, really, really
excited to have you here starting off with the first
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question? What do you do and why do you do
it? Well, first of all, it's a
pleasure to be here and I do quite a few things.
I know that you know of some of my Endeavors but I am the
co-owner of clinic. So we do Precision medicine
here, longevity medicine and we have a lot of what we call
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Health optimization therapy. So from my day-to-day, it really
varies, but a lot of it is looking at different blood
biomarkers, coordinating things with the clinic.
We have two overseeing MD's here, Functional medicine nurse
practitioner and then a whole team of nurses.
So I'm kind of running. Not be raishin, I do see some
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personal clients for brain health coaching as well and then
I have my podcast. So I also have a podcast called
brain, biohacking with Kayla Barnes.
And so I interview a variety of different entrepreneurs.
Scientists phds MDS all in the health range.
As you know, your father has been on my podcast and I'll be
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coming on again soon to discuss his new book and then from
there, I mean I create content. You know, for me that's pretty
easy. I've grown a really amazing
community on Instagram but it's such a passion for me and to be
clear everything that I do, you know, I talk about this a lot
but we can either design our lives or we can just take what
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the world gives us. And I'm not going to say it was
easy because I think a lot of people feel like Like or think
from the outside that I just hadeverything handed to me, but I
worked really, really hard and Idesigned a life that I love.
So even though I work a lot because I'm either working at
the clinic will more open or I am working on my podcast.
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I just, you know, finished my first book, I have this social
media Community, but everything would I do?
I love so much. So I think that answers your
first and second question, why Ido it, why do it mean Having
this Clinic is an absolute dream.
I took everything and I have an amazing partner and you know who
my partner is Bobby George. And he really was the one that
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founded this concept and I came in and it's an absolute blessing
because we get to see incredibleprogress with our patients and
we get to help people optimize their Health Online.
I get to share free advice that I get.
A lot of incredible feedback that it's really help people.
And at the end of the day, when You can do something that you
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love that benefits, you and benefits.
The people that you love and that are around you, I mean,
it's an absolute win-win-win. I couldn't ask for anything
better, totally. And what you do is amazing and I
love that you are. You, are you really are changing
people's lives. It's truly amazing to see that.
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So for people who don't know what buying a pack, biohacking
is, what is that? So, the technical All definition
is in. This was the term was actually
coined by a friend of mine. Dave, asprey.
So he's kind of like the father biohacking, but essentially,
it's upgrading the environment internally and externally, to
benefit your health. So, I can give a few examples,
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you know, when our ancestors were around, Health was a lot
easier. And there's always this kind of
conversation about how long theylived.
I mean they did not live extremely long but what from We
know they lived very healthy andthey didn't live extremely long,
most likely because they were taken out by some sort of
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disease that we now have under much better control with our
standard Western acute care. But biohacking would be things
like sunshine. So there's such a spectrum of
biohacking, right? There's little things that are
free that we can do every singleday and then there's the
advanced technology like we havehere at live.
So changing your environment, externally a couple things.
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That, that could be is air filters.
You know, we know that we are having a higher toxic burden now
than ever. And we see the rise of all of
these different chronic conditions from type 2 diabetes
to cancer to, you know, issues with weight management.
And I think that toxins play a big role in this.
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So getting an air filtration system in your house or like at
least a couple air purification systems getting shipped
filtered, shower water, like just screwing on a little show
Our head on to your current shower, things, like getting
sunlight in the morning things like, you know, optimizing your
water intake and looking at blood biomarkers and optimizing
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your blood biomarkers. We run really extensive panels
here like longevity panels with something around, 60 different
biomarkers. You can you compare that with I
recently just did one of the most advanced full-body MRIs
called / Nouveau on the planet pre-screens for 500 different
types. Chronic disease, all cancers
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tumors brain changes in terms ofvolume.
So like you said, biohacking canbe simple, just slow old
therapy, sunshine in the morning.
Grounding in these can be reallyfree practices, exercising,
moving your body. That's all biohacking.
Anything that is changing the environment internally or
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externally to benefit your health is biohacking.
Hmm. Wow, yeah, even The fact that
you can you can get, you don't have to do that scanning, you
don't have to go out and pay forstuff.
You literally can just go outside ground.
It yourself for being the sun. Totally, what is something that
we can add to our everyday livesto boost our brain health and
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our physical health. Once you kind of touched on it,
but I would like to like go in deeper.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So when it comes to brain
health, what you do for the body, you also do for the brain.
So let's just start with diet. Let's talk about the things.
You can take out to benefit yourbrain health, so things like
packaged and processed good. So food and calories is not
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every calorie is not equal. You could maintain way, or maybe
even lose weight. If you are on a very regimented,
daily caloric intake, Of packaged Goods.
That was let's say 1200 calories.
And please don't quote, these numbers.
It's all dependent on how much you weigh?
What your goals are. I'm just giving an example here.
Yeah, but the the calories are information because 1200
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calories of really high quality foods, like grass-fed steak and
healthy fats like avocado, maybeeven some ghee, is so different.
It's a different piece of information for your body then a
Snickers bar or a package. Good and many times even these
Ours. Like if there's marketing around
it, being healthy, then it's probably questionable and you
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want to look at the ingredient package.
So nutrition is the base of brain health because our brain
even though it's only two to three pounds, it actually uses
about 30% of our daily caloric intake.
So every piece of food that I put into my body, I'm wondering
is this going to harm or help mybrain and that.
So that's why eating a lot of really high quality protein is
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super important, not only for body Ocean things like adding
muscle, and maybe losing weight,and satiety but it's also so
important because protein is thebuilding blocks for our
neurotransmitters, very important, in terms of protein
and taking, you want to do high quality proteins, things like,
grass-fed grass-finished meets, if you can wild caught salmon,
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things of that nature. But you want to completely
reduce or eliminate if possible these packaged Goods because
it's not giving our brains good information.
The next thing That is really amazing for brain.
Health is exercise and just walking so we have exercise like
more strenuous exercise in the gym.
We know that that actually releases something called bdnf,
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brain-derived neurotrophic factor and that boost the
production of new neuron. So impact neuroplasticity, which
is the brain's ability to rewireand change throughout time and
it gets much more blood flow going to the brain.
So the brain, as we Disgust is the very energy consumptive
organ. So we need a lot of not only
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nutrients but also blood flow tothe brain.
And so from a very basic level exercise is, I believe the best
thing that you can do for your body if you focus on nutrition
and exercise, you're going to bein vastly better position.
And then the third thing for brain health, which is also free
is getting really high quality sleep.
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So when we sleep our brains glymphatic, Exist.
Mm is activated and the glymphatic system is actually
our brain, cellular waste and clearance process.
So while we're sleeping, the brain is certainly not just also
sleeping. It's doing a lot of kind of
cleanup work. It's sorting through memories
throughout the day or events throughout the day to determine
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what's going to be saved in our long and short term memory.
So high quality, sleep is so incredibly important and there's
a lot of research out there stating that just even one.
Night of poor sleep and especially ongoing poor sleep,
can increase our insulin levels and our glucose.
It can increase craving so it makes it harder to eat healthy
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the next day decreases creativity.
It can even increase blood pressure.
But overall, the brain has to have high quality sleep because
it's at the time that it all gets to clean up and rest and
rejuvenate for the next day. So I use and a lot of people use
things like oral ring. To know if you are getting a
high quality sleep but you want to aim for between seven and
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eight hours or some people say six to eight hours but it
depends on the quality of your sleep.
So if you're getting super high quality sleep then you can
probably be okay with you know six and a half seven hours but
if you're staying the majority of your sleep and one called
light sleep, there's different cycles of sleep.
So there's light sleep. There's deep sleep.
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And there's REM sleep. And if you're not getting enough
deep and REM then, You're not getting enough restoration for
the body and the brain. So definitely high quality,
sleep is another thing that's really good for brain health and
to go back to nutrition to. There's a couple of what people
deem as brain food. So, the diet from dr.
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Ayman is something along the lines of wild caught fish
because we need that DEA and EPA.
I also do supplementation a fishoil and then dark leafy greens.
You want healthy fats like avocado.
Otto and Evo and some maybe Gigiif you like that.
And then blueberries are super food for the brain.
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So the darker, the fruit, the lower the GI, it's going to be
and GI is glycemic impact. So, for optimal cognition, you
want to have a fairly steady blood sugar throughout the day.
So, I've worn a levels but again, you don't even need to
measure it. You can just have a fairly, you
know, blood sugar stable diet, and you won't have the big
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impact. Brain fog because when our blood
sugar spikes up and then it immediately crashes, that's what
can lead to brain fog among other things, but it's one of
the factors that could lead to brain fog and increased cravings
and things of that nature. So, those would be my top three
in terms of brain health optimization.
But we also know that you want to continue learning.
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So, when we push the brain, in terms of new, learnings such as
may be learning a new musical instrument or, you know,
learning something Um difficult speaking a new language.
It actually creates these new neuronal Pathways and it helps
with neuroplasticity. And so new learnings throughout
life is incredibly important. For many reasons, you know, once
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we get older, we stop moving. We stop learning.
That's when things really start to go downhill in terms of
longevity. Wow, that's, that's crazy
because I feel like in my generation, like, like learning
new things, like people don't really want to learn new things,
they kind of Those it on Tick Tock.
Maybe they learn like some random life hack or something.
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But going out there being like, no, I want to learn a new
language, not only just to understand a new language and
know how to speak a different language.
But also to to be able to like help myself and heal myself and
do things that are good for me. You touched on sleep.
Something I struggle with and I know a bunch of people might
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have struggle with. It is falling asleep and getting
sleep. What are some sleep?
Tips you have for getting to sleep and then also getting good
quality sleep. Sure.
So getting to sleep, one thing is you got to stay off Tick-Tock
late at night because this is not helping you Tick-Tock.
Yep. Get off to you have to stop
doing Tick-Tock and really any social media, a few hours prior
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to bed. Because if you are on social
media or even watching somethingthat's like an anxiety inducing,
it's going to release cortisol, you know, we don't want to
increase cortisol and then if you're not using Like a red
light phone. Blocker of some nature.
Everyone can Google Red Light phone trick and it will change
your life because the phone if you use the internal settings
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for like Sunset mode, it'll go lightly yellow but red light
foam trick that will actually turn it completely red because
if we're continuing to have Melody, sorry melatonin
suppressed by these blue lights,whether that be TV or your
overhead light or your phone. Then we're not going to be
suppressing melatonin in the waythat we should be.
This is something that's really Least in our bodies to help us
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wind down. But we're preventing that
release because we have super bright overhead lights down.
We have our phones in our hands.We have our TVs on with blue
lights. So definitely, stopping social
media and television. And I actually have red lights
throughout my home. So around 7 p.m. or so, I switch
it from the blue lights which are overhead to the red orange
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lights, which significantly helps my sleep.
So we have blocking the blue light.
You don't want to eat too close,too.
So I would definitely recommend stopping eating around three
hours prior to sleep. Because if we are so busy
digesting our food, we're not going to get into those deeper
stages of sleep. Definitely, first of all, anyone
your age not be, drinking alcohol in general, but
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depending on what age range is listening to this podcast.
Everyone thinks that alcohol helps them sleep.
It's completely false. So it can potentially help you
fall asleep. But if you track your sleep with
a device such as the, or array, Or the whoop band.
Or something of that nature, it significantly.
Impacts the quality of your sleep.
So you are going to be in light sleep, much more than you should
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be. You're not going to get that
deep restorative sleep. That your body really requires
so alcohol. If you are going to have a drink
which I don't recommend because it is a neurotoxin you should do
it earlier in the evening drink,lots of water prior, I do a
little stack I rarely ever drankbut if I do have a glass of
wine, I do like a glutathione pack maybe some charcoal.
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Um, just to help get out those toxins.
But obviously alcohol is one of the biggest detriments to sleep.
You also want to keep your room cool.
So, our body actually drops downa degree 22 degrees at night
when we sleep. And if we can help that process
by keeping a room, cool, we'll get a better night sleep.
You can always fall asleep in a cooler room, versus a hot room
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because a were not able to get into those deeper stages of
sleep and be, we might be wakingup more because we're too hot.
So I keep my room. At about 65 degrees Fahrenheit.
You also may consider, you know,a little bit of supplementation,
if you are deficient in magnesium and magnesium, I would
say about 90, 95 percent of people are deficient in
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magnesium. So taking a magnesium can help
you relax in the evening. Let me think what else?
Meditation or some sort of wind down.
Practice is amazing. Because again, you just want to
try to calm your brain. You know, we live in this
injure, always connected. Heidi were, we have to reply to
emails? It all two hours of the day, we
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have called, we scroll on socialmedia all day, but you have to
give your body and brain a wind down routine and also, you know,
you only want to use your bedroom for sleep really and you
know, maybe one other thing but not at your age.
So you don't want to be doing all these other things in your
bed, like eating or like, watching television for a long
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time because then you start to associate it with doing other
things. Your room should be PitchBlack
to. So I don't have any Electronics
in my room. The light is the I have actually
blackout Shades. My room is so dark.
I can't see my hand in front of my face when I'm getting ready
to go to bed because any of those Peaks and light that are
shining through or coming from acellphone or coming from here or
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there, it can actually hit your skin and again we go back to
disrupting the potential melatonin.
Yeah. Pre bed routines.
I also love Sana, Sana, is really relaxing to the muscles.
I love doing sauna before bed, Ido Saint about four times a
week, there are so many benefitsto sauna from improving blood
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flow throughout the body and to the brain.
It can reduce all risk of all-cause mortality, by up to
40%, if doing it regularly, amazing for detoxification for
the body and I find great benefit in my sleep, when I'm
doing sauna prior to The other thing is we have to talk about
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our circadian rhythms so our circadian rhythm is not our
natural sleep-wake cycle. Everyone's can be slightly
different depending the chronotype.
So your natural propensity to wake up either super early or a
little bit later but what we're doing as a society is, were
completely dysregulated our circadian rhythms because we are
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eating at the wrong hours. We're eating too close to
bedtime and our bodies aren't prepared for this.
They want to have a very standard cycle so that's why you
have to eat earlier. If you eat, right before you go
to bed and your body's like, okay, we just ate it's probably
sometime around dinner, right? And then you're on the phone
with the blue light. So one of the best things to
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actually anchor your circadian rhythm is to get up and get
natural sunlight in the eyes. That's going to help her sleep
later because it's going to let your brain know that it's time
to wake up. So if you get outside first
thing, Morning, get 10 to 30 minutes of sunlight, in the
eyes, you don't want to stare directly at the eyes or at the
sun. It shouldn't actually hurt your
eyes. So you know, exercise Common
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Sense here but you want to get some sunlight into the eyes and
then all throughout the day we are light beings.
You know, we evolved and Rising with the sign and going to sleep
with the sunset and making contact with the Earth.
All these things will definitelyhelp sleep in the grand scheme
of things. And if you have ruminating
thoughts, which A lot of people do and that's what prohibits
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people from falling asleep. Keep a little notepad next to
you and then you can jot down the thoughts so that you don't
forget them because then our brain runs us through this
exercise like wanting to not forget.
So just jot it down. Have a little notepad and then
Those are some of my top tips. The last one I would say is
exercise when you exercise and really Tire the body throughout
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the day, you sleep better at night and then the final final
one is consistency. If you intend on going to bed,
one night at 10:00 p.m. the nextday at 2:00 a.m. the next day at
you know 8 p.m. it's never goingto work.
You have to have consistency because you're not going to be
tired if I like for example on Day.
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Sometimes. I let myself sleep in a little
bit, but I don't let myself sleep in too much because if I
end up, you know, if I naturallyand most days wake up around
6:00, and then I wake up at 10 on Sundays, I mean, Sunday
night, how am I ever going to get to bed?
Because I had so much sleep. So you really need to keep your
sleep schedule within about a one-hour window.
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So that your body is tired when it's time to go to bed.
So consistency is absolutely key.
You talked about about Fitness about working out.
Out, what are some good types ofworkouts for people?
Well, the science says that you definitely want to do about 180
minutes of Zone to cardio per week.
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That would be you can measure this with a lactate meter but
most people are not going to do that.
So don't do cardio, it's walkingbriskly enough that you can hold
a conversation but it's difficult.
So you know, cardiovascular workouts are super important for
the heart for endurance but my personal favorite is strength,
training strength training we know is so Incredibly important.
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Because as you age, you know, you want to put on as much
muscle as you can when she when you're young and it's easy
because every decade of life, it's going to get more difficult
to put on muscle. And then at some point it's
going to become so difficult that you're just losing muscle.
It's something called sarcopenia.
So this is actually muscle wasting or muscle loss in
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strength. Training is absolutely key.
I think everybody should do it. I think there's a lot of fears
from women particularly that they're going to To get bulky or
they're going to get big. It's absolutely not the case.
I Strength train about five daysa week, really pretty
intensively. And we a we don't have the
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hormones to get super huge unless we actually supplement
with those hormones, which is not recommended for most people
and so and be, you would have toeat so much food to add on that
much muscle. So strength training, I think at
least three to four times per week.
It doesn't have to be two hours in the gym.
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You don't even have to go to a gym.
If you can't afford that, you can do bodyweight training, you
can do push-ups, you can do pull-ups, you can do squats, you
can do walking lunges. But strength training is
absolutely key. Again, it's great for the brain.
I think of it as like Miracle-Gro or like fertilizer
for the brain because it's releasing the brain, derived
neurotrophic factor, and amazingfor blood flow, amazing for
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longevity for health optimization for your blood
biomarkers. Everything across Rocked the
board gets better when you move your body.
So I would recommend at least three to four string training
sessions per week can be about ahalf an hour in length and then
also, you know, depends on how effective you are.
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I think the gym is one of the most Fair places in the world.
So what you put into it is what you're going to get out of it.
So when I train, I train, very mindfully.
I want to use my time to the Maximum efficiency.
So if you go into the gym and you don't do much for that, 30
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minutes, you might be there a lot longer your workout, might
take a lot longer, but if you goin, you get it done.
You put forth maximum effort, you can probably do it in about
half an hour. So this is like Optimal.
This is like someone that wants to optimize their health
completely 180 minutes is own tocardio three to four string
training days per week, but justto be healthy, you at least have
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to move. A little bit.
Do whatever. You know that we know that the
best workout it is the one that you're actually going to do.
That's the best workout. Yeah, so I can say what I do but
that's because I'm relieved relentlessly and ruthlessly
committed to optimizing. My physique, my brain, my
health, with my longevity. I mean, you've been around me in
person, I'm like, very strict. I do all these things.
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I'm in the hyperbaric chamber. I'm in the cryotherapy.
I do, cold showers every day. I do, red light therapy every
day. I do pmf.
I have an infrared sauna. I do Zhanna and we can talk
about all this stuff, you know, more and more detail, but the
best workout is the one that you're going to do.
So build it in. Walking is amazing.
If you're going to be walking, try to hit that down to cardio.
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So walk a little bit faster thanjust like a light stroll.
There's nothing wrong with the light.
Stroll, it's still better than nothing but try to find a
workout routine that you can stick to and find something that
you love to. You know, the other option is it
doesn't have to be so scientificif you love playing sports.
I mean that's a great workout. You can run, you can do track
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with friends, you can play volleyball, you can play
basketball, you can get on like a softball league, just do
something to keep moving. And I'm not going to say that,
you know, you're not going to bea bodybuilder or anything, which
is playing softball few times a week, but you can definitely,
you know, improve your health with doing something about
nature, totally, some things that I see that are people are
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saying like, oh, it's for health.
Is smoking weed and doing shrooms.
Are those actually healthy for us?
Or are they? Are they bad for us?
I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but ever, you know, I
used to post more about the actual effects of marijuana and
then it got to be so many negative comments that I just
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stopped doing it to be honest because I don't have the time
right now to manage them, but atthe end of the day, I mean, the
brain scan show that marijuana is not good for your brain.
It reduces blood flow in the brain and if you think about
what we talked about before prior, we need really good blood
flow in the brain. It's What keeps the brain
healthy. And at the end of the day, if
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you need medical marijuana, because it is making your life
exponentially better and more enjoyable than I understand
that. But if you're smoking marijuana,
for the benefit of Health it's not a health habit psilocybin.
I think that there could be in really controlled settings, some
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interesting neuroplastic The benefits, but that's very
different than doing it casuallyjust for fun, or for the
experience. So, and all of this, of course,
should be done at an age appropriate time, right?
Because we know the adolescence are so much more susceptible to
the negative impact of different, you know, brain
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changing or mind-altering because they do alter your mind
substances. So definitely none of this
should be done until you are Areof age and I'm not condoning.
Any of it? Anyway, I just think that
there's some potentially interesting studies coming out
in regards to clinically applicable.
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You know what they may be doing in the future with psilocybin,
but neither of them, in my opinion, our health habits.
Yeah. Yeah.
The I don't know if, you know, Paul stamets but his stem at
stack and the research behind psilocybin.
Ism is pretty crazy. I heard him talk about it.
I went to, I was So it's those pretty insane.
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Your Christian correct I want todo for ya.
Okay. What role does your relationship
with God play in your life? You know, it's it's ever
evolving, I think, and I think alot of Christians that I know
feel the same, right? I think that as a human being,
morals are incredibly important and following God.
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It's that's how I was raised. That's How I Live.
Now, is very important and I think we live in a time where I
suppose were were not sure of what our morals are so people
kind of tend to go anyway but for me having a relationship
with God, really keeps me grounded and it reminds me all
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the time that there is somethingso much bigger than myself and I
think it just really yeah, kind of roots to me in morals and
keeps me grounded. And it also offers a great
opportunity for building Community with like-minded
people. Actually host a Bible study and
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it's a really incredible way to meet new friends and find people
that are interested in the same thing you are.
I don't necessarily you know think that I should preach about
having like a relationship with God but I think that people when
they do find a relationship withGod find themselves to be a
little happier overall but that's just my personal
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experience. Hmm yeah I think it's I think
it's really important. I've talked about on the podcast
before. But I think it's really
important to have something thatyou do.
That's outside of yourself like serve in a way that's outside of
yourself, whether you're servingpeople, or whether you're going
to church or whether you're praying, I think that that plays
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a vital role in your life. I think that it's really healthy
for us as people. So this is a question that I
asked its reoccurring on the podcast and it's kind of just
become a thing. So I'm going to ask it again.
Do you think social media shouldexist?
Like if you had a button and if you press the button, social
media gone, would you press the button?
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I would alter the button, I think that there's no real good
reason that children should be on social media.
I think it's really detrimental to mental health.
We have an absurd amount of filters, I mean, teenage girls,
I think are suffering more than anyone, and it's really sad
because these lives that people create online.
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Most of the time are nowhere near their real lives.
I mean they they most likely don't look Exactly how they
post. They don't have exactly what
they post and even if they do, you know, children should be
able to. Just, I'm not saying that,
you're not going to ever compareyourself, but you should at
least just have a smaller pool to do that, right?
Like you go to school and you should be able to have happiness
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as a kid and you shouldn't see every, you know, Instagram model
in the world at one time and be able to compare yourself
against. I think it's very sad and I
think it's not, I think I know because this is the statistic.
This, that mental health is especially in teenage girls and
teenagers in general is significantly suffering.
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So I would put an age an age limit on it.
To be honest, I think it should go outside.
They should play, they should beactive, they should do all of
the things, they should focus onschool, they should focus on
learning, they should not be focused on what, you know, and
influencers doing because it really doesn't add a lot of
value. I think the social media can be
really good for Formation. You know, now we're able to
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understand what's going on in the world or why things happen
in such a significant way. You know, we can be notified
about something worldly happening right away or people,
they can learn. They can teach themselves so
many more things than they were able to do prior.
And I think it's great for, you know, health information, you
can have access to someone like your dad or Andrew huberman or
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even people on my platform, you know, they can learn something.
Thing that they're interested inand I think that's amazing but I
just don't think that children should be doing that because
it's not fair. So dude, do you have a specific
age cap that you think you wouldchoose?
I think 18. I mean, I know that's a bit
annoying but that's when you know, you're legally an adult.
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And I just think that You know, your brain is not even fully
developed until you're 25. So if you're making decisions
today based on a nun, fully not develop brain then that could be
problematic in the future. So, I mean, I don't know maybe
16 because you can drive a car then but still I think that that
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age between like 13 and 17 is where some of the most damage
happens with, you know, mental health.
So that's why would I know when I have kids really phones and
screens Going to be ultra limited and be homeschooling.
My kids. We're going to live in the
middle of nowhere and they're going to like play with cows and
you know they can be exposed to these things later.
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I don't want to put that burden on them.
Yeah, I I mean your kids will beamazing if you do that because I
like my dad didn't give me social media until I was 16 and
Honestly, I think if they would have waited longer would have
been just as good, but it is, itis shown me with me, waiting
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till I was 16 to the people thatgot it.
When they were, like, whatever 12 13, 14, the difference in the
addiction and the obsession is massive.
It is, it's scary to see cuz I'mlike, I don't really want to be
on my phone because I had those years of like, no, I'm going to
go outside and play. I'm gonna go play with toys.
I'm going to go read a book. I'm going to go do other things.
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Don't know how to separate. It's like it's a like a limb on
their body. It's crazy to see that and I
think that yeah, I totally agreewith you that you should wait
until your brain is fully developed. 1618.
Whatever something along those lines.
Yeah and I just think people would have time to be happier.
You have the rest of your life to deal with a lot of hard
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things because there's no doubt about it.
Life is hard. That's why you have to find
something meaningful and really commit to it, but you have the
rest of your life to be. Learned about you know what
someone is doing over in Australia.
I mean it really is not any of your concern right now is.
Yeah, yeah, totally. So we do on the podcast, we do a
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little lightning round and firstquestion for the Lightning Run
is for my generation. What do you think my My
Generation My Generation strengths are That's a good
question. My younger brother is in your my
younger brothers 18, so yeah, Kenzie, yeah, so strengths.
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I mean, it seems like you guys are pretty good at finding
information. My brother knows like the most
obscure facts like ever. And I'm like, how do you know
this? And he tells me he finds it off
Reddit so I don't know, I guess you guys are good at finding
interesting facts but I would have to know more, you know, I
don't know too many 18 year olds.
I'm kind of insulated. We're here in my clinic.
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Yeah. What do you think it is?
I think it is. I think it's are resourceful
nasai, think growing up, where pretty much from birth.
We had had phones and we had technology and we had to access
to a lot of information. I think we are resourceful with
the information that we have, and I think some of us squander
it, but I think that that we arereally resourceful when we need
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to be the work. We can we can solve a lot of a
lot of problems really quickly. You see that like I'll go into I
work in social media marketing so I'll go.
In and people are struggling. They're like, I don't understand
how to do this, and I'll just figure out and, like, 10 minutes
and it comes, so naturally to me.
But I guess I see for like olderGenerations.
It's like, it's just not built into them where it's built into
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us, which is interesting to see what is interesting, good.
Good feedback though. Yeah.
What would you say? Are my Generations biggest
weaknesses? I mean, that's a little unfair,
but, And again, I don't have a great perspective on this, I
think, maybe I'll just be honest, like potentially a
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little bit of entitlement and maybe a little bit of a lesser
work ethic, you know, a lot of people, you know, if I'm doing
interviews or something, it seems like a lot of people just
want to get to the top immediately and same thing with
my brother. So I only have my really my
brother to use as a perspective.But They don't realize how much
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work goes into it. You I mean you know Bobby Bobby
has been working when he's incredibly successful now but
he's been working like every hour of his life since he's been
you know super early 22 soon as he graduated college like he
doesn't have to work as much nowbut he still does because maybe
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the older Generations have this like really ingrained work ethic
ethic, whereas I feel and again I could be totally Wrong.
So don't don't quote me on this,but maybe a little bit less of
work ethic. Because again, I think social
media has, like, develop this idea that you can just grow up
and be an influencer. Yeah.
And like, get a Bugatti or something and both pictures in
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it with the tiger, and that's going to be your profession.
I don't know if that's a real thing or not.
Yeah, in my way up in my, in my way off base here.
What do you think the bolts of your generation are?
Yeah, I totally agree with you. I think that that because we are
entitled and because we grew up having all this information and
everything's just like kind of at the click of a button
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whenever we have to get to that point where we're like, okay,
well it's not at the click of a button.
What do we do? We kind of just are like, well,
we'll go give up on that and go do a different thing.
I think the lack of were that work ethic and I think the, I
guess this kind of goes hand-in-hand, but the lack of
the ability to do hard things. I think that that has been
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forgotten and doing hard things is just not Thing that's in
people's brains they're like, wait, I don't want to do it.
So I should still do it. That just makes sense.
And I'm like, yeah. Like that's that's really why I
created this podcast is for the people who either are, like, I
like doing hard things and I want to, I want to do hard
things and succeed at doing themor the people are like, I
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struggle at doing hard things and I need help.
That's, that's really for those people.
That's why I created this podcast.
Yeah, well good that's important.
You should talk about how you'redoing 75 hard and All the things
you do mean, when you come into the clinic you're like, doing
cryotherapy that's hard. You want to do all the
treatments. But the only hit there is no
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life hack there really is, not to be successful.
You don't have to be the smartest person in the room but
you have to be the hardest working.
And that's why, you know I love that you're doing this and I
love this for you and I've been around you when you've been
around incredible, you know, so incredibly successful men and
you're really listening in tunedin, but you You can get all the
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pieces of information, but you gotta outwork everybody else.
And that's how you really succeed.
And, you know, and help like, I'm not trying to promote this
unrealistic status of like burnout.
No. I mean, you work, but then
that's why I invest so much timeinto my health.
That's why I go to bed at an early hour.
I don't work until 1:00 in the morning.
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I sleep really well. So I'm energized and I'm
productive during the day but then I go to bed early and so
you do have to work hard but youalways Also do have to
prioritize yourself with the same time, but at the end of the
day, there is no like, you know,fast super fast track to getting
anything amazing in life other than putting in the work.
So I'm glad that you're doing this because you can speak to
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people, you know, in gen Z and otherwise, because look, I mean,
I'm obviously older than you areand there's also people that are
my age and older that still aren't doing anything in terms
of discipline, they still do. Want to do the hard things and
you will never get to be the person that you want to be in
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all areas of life, in your personal relationships, in your
professional Endeavors, in your health.
I mean, I think having a six pack is more rare than being a
millionaire. And these are like, statistics,
it's like wild. So, if you want to get the best
of everything, you absolutely have to put in the effort and
the time, and we see that over and over and over again, totally
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You're a very successful entrepreneur like you, you
talked about earlier, you have achieved your dream, you're like
that your clinic is one of your dreams, what is your biggest
advice for entrepreneurs or people who want to to become an
entrepreneur? Do something that you find
incredibly meaningful because without that, without having a
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lot of meaning attached to something, you probably won't
have the wherewithal to see it. Through.
With that being said, it took me.
I started my first business. I mean, I was 17 years old and I
had no idea what I was doing back then, but I did start
something. So I've always been very
entrepreneurial and you have to be willing to a work harder than
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everyone else because it's just a fact.
But at my other Piece of advice would be to really invest in
learning protocols, that can make you feel better that can
make you more effective. Because when you're driving
super hard and you're really reaching for goal, and you're
putting in the effort, you have to be able to recharge my other
second best piece of advice. And it seems like you're doing a
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good job of. This is find amazing mentors.
The saying you are, who your surround yourself with is the
most true thing I've ever heard and it's so legitimate.
So If you want to, you know, be healthier, hang out with healthy
people. If you want to be good in
business, hang out with people that are good in business.
If you want to build an amazing podcast and hang out with people
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that have built an amazing podcast, you're going to move so
much faster through the world when you realize a that you
don't know anything and you start every day with a fresh
start and an open mind and you learn from other people's
mistakes, instead of having to make those same mistakes
yourself. So, find amazing, mentors and
friends, you know. If you have friends that are
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like constantly - and toxic and pulling you down, then it's
going to slow your speed down substantially.
And actually, the other thing, the third thing I would
recommend is invest in yourself.You know, I have done so many
courses and continued education,and all of this investment into
myself, reading books, listeningto podcasts again, Advanced
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education, things of this nature.
I'm always usually enrolled in some course, some type, of
course, Meaning because that is something no one can ever take
away from you is the knowledge that you have.
So the bags, the cars, the, the materialistic things.
I'm not saying never buy anything, nice for yourself.
But first invest in yourself because you're going to make
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yourself so valuable that everyone's going to want to do
something with you, but only if you're that valuable people
really business people. They don't care if you walk in
with like a Chanel bag and you know, all these nice clothes and
stuff. If you don't have in knowledge
that they find useful, none of that other stuff matters.
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That's so true. Wow, that is valuable right
there. That yeah how do you define
success? It's changed a lot over the
years, that's for sure. I definitely used to look at
success in terms of like only financial metrics and things of
that nature. I just made a post the other day
and basically said what the world says successes and it's
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like, you know, big house. Nice car, great bank account,
access to like multiple, you know, relationships or Partners
like that seems to be glamorizedthis day and age instead of
like, you know, monogamy which IIs far better.
I think finding someone that youcan do life with as much better.
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But anyways, that's like what the world says.
Oh, get a lot of followers, get a lot of money, get Fame.
And to some maybe that's what truly makes them happy.
But for me, a definitely doing something that I love and I've
managed to sort that out for myself.
So, aligning what I love the most with what I do, because we
spend most of our time at work. We spend more time at work than
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we do with our families or anyone else you have to.
Do something you love not sayingmoney doesn't matter because,
you know there's a threshold in which it does because it gives
you stability, which is super important.
But really success, to me, is finding peace of mind and doing
something that I love. I mean, in the next few years,
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you know, I really had some audacious goals for myself
before I wanted to move into thenext phase of having a family,
but that's definitely going to be part.
Two of what makes me happy, but I think.
It could be different for everybody.
But that's what success is to meis having high quality
relationships, happiness, and doing what I love, what about
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you, mmm? I would say success to me,
there's a part of it that's Financial.
You wouldn't be financially freeand you and I not have to worry
about money, but I would say forme success is Doing something
that I love surrounded by peoplethat I love.
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I think it's really simple. So that's like that.
If I can have that that's all. I mean like if I love what I do
like whether that's work or whether that's like, I don't
know Hobby and I have people around me that love me and I
love them. That's all I could ask for.
It really is, you know, there's like a saying basically, you
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know, you buy things to impress people that you don't care about
or that don't care about you. Like everyone should just stop
doing that. I used to be, you know, at one
point I was so much more into fashion and I love like
representing yourself well, but just don't do things to impress
other people because at the end of the day, if you keep adding
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to your actual successes, you'regoing to become Everybody will
want to be around you anyway, right?
Based on Merit, not based on logos, or not based on flashy
items because that's really justhow it is.
Totally the last question is, ifyou could give advice to
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yourself as a teen. What would you tell yourself?
Honestly along the same lines ofwhat I just said if I could go
back and tell my teenage self because look, I haven't had this
mindset for my whole life. There was, you know, a good
period of time where I started making a little bit of money and
I was like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna buy like some Louis
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Vuitton stuff and Chanel, and this and that and I was, I was,
you know, girls love like dressing up and looking nice.
So two guys, but I wish I could go back and say, just love
yourself. Now for who you are, and you
don't need all These other things because people are either
going to like you or dislike youbased on the quality of your
character and not based on what you're wearing or what you have.
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Wise words. Yeah, you get a little wiser as
you get a little older. But that's why I think it's so
cool that you're doing this now because you can talk to people
that have been through it and you'll talk to people that have
done, way more even than I have.But I mean, it's great, when
people can share with you, how they kind of got to where they
are, and I'm sure you'll find a similar narrative and in all the
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stories. Yeah, that's I really trying to
do research amongst the modern modern day, mr.
Miyagi's, as I call them. That's why I named the podcast
wax on wax off is because it's like, I'm the Karate Kid.
My listeners are the Karate Kid and we're trying to learn from
from the wiser people that have come before us and try and gain
from their wisdom, very smart, and you'll go very far with that
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with that sort of mentality. And hopefully, you know, you can
make an impact on, a lot of people in your age range because
the amazing thing about life is that there are literally no
limits, you know, I came from not a lot.
Got pretty rough times early on.But now I've created like my
dream life, and if you're willing to work for, you can
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have anything. So, thank you.
Thank you for being on the podcast.
Thank you for for giving me yourtime giving us your time.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
And yeah, you're welcome. Thank you for having me.
Got pretty rough times early on.But now I've created like my
dream life, and if you're willing to work for, you can
have anything. So, thank you.
Thank you for being on the podcast.
Thank you for for giving me yourtime giving us your time.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
And yeah, you're welcome. Thank you for having me.