October 19, 2025 • 33 mins
This week the boys talk about why James Gunn’s DCU feels like a soft reboot, then they spin into a fully fledged Gotham survival video game trilogy where Batman is the horror. Lastly, they break down Peacemaker’s adult tone, Black Label grit, and how the Nemesis system could have made Gotham feel alive.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:03):
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you so much for tuning into the WBM podcast.
This is one of your hosts, it'syour boy Merc.
Yo, welcome back, everybody.
This is your boy XFAM.
SPEAKER_03 (00:14):
And this is your boy Oski in the middle.
We got a fun episode for youtoday.
SPEAKER_01 (00:19):
That's right.
Are we talking some DCU?
That's right, some James Gunn.
SPEAKER_03 (00:22):
DCU, that's right.
The new universe.
That's right.
SPEAKER_01 (00:25):
That's not like university school.
DCU, go get him.
SPEAKER_02 (00:28):
DCU.
What would be their mascot?
SPEAKER_01 (00:30):
A bat.
You know, you know it.
What else we got, boys?
Uh yeah, we have some more stufflined up.
SPEAKER_02 (00:39):
We do.
Before anybody else asks, we'regoing to talk about.
SPEAKER_03 (00:42):
We're going to just talk about James Gunn's series.
SPEAKER_02 (00:44):
James Gunn, the DCU, some, you know, some anime
stuff, the things that we alwaysdo.
That's right, y'all.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (00:49):
You can bring in some anime stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (00:50):
Always going to bring up some anime stuff.
And you want to talk about OnePiece, right?
I do.
And I also want to talk aboutyou in your 20s versus in your
30s.
No.
Oh, everything hurts.
We'll find out on this one.
I love how we didn't haveanything to say, and then we ran
into like time.
(01:12):
Well, because we had our topic.
What was your topic, sir?
Oh, you guys are on for a funone then on this one, boys.
All right.
What do you want to start with?
Let's start up with the DCU.
James Gunn, peace make it a bitmore.
SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
Let's start with the DCU, the DC Universe, which is
the new universe that James Connis trying to set up.
Yeah.
He's trying to make a freshstart.
But it's funny because it's nota fresh start.
It's more like a soft reboot.
Yes.
I don't know why I said it likethat.
But yeah, it's a soft reboot.
What do you call it a softreboot?
Uh XFR.
SPEAKER_01 (01:43):
I called it like just roll with the reboot.
I would say it's a retcon.
He's doing roll with it.
Roll with the.
You know, because honestly, bro,it's like you know who the who
you know who we are.
The bat, the S, the D, the Y,the D.
The D.
The WW, the W W, the W.
SPEAKER_03 (02:00):
The B, the S, the B dubs.
The Holy Trinity.
Yeah.
I mean, that's it.
But they have the man, WonderWoman.
They haven't appeared yet.
But yeah, it's funny becauseJames Scum has been working
within DC.
So I would think like these Dprojects are part of the new
universe that he started to setup.
That's right.
So the Suicide Squad movie, notthe original Suicide Squad, but
(02:21):
the Suicide Squad movies.
That was also a soft reboot inand of itself.
SPEAKER_02 (02:26):
Yeah, it really was.
I think he already had a vision.
I think he may have given apitch for a whole universe
during that one movie.
SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
Yeah.
And he was like, hey, this iswhat I'm trying to do.
I'm trying to make some changes.
And then it went up for sale.
And he's like, oh shit.
Yeah.
So did Suicide Squad uh wouldyou would say is uh semi-canon?
SPEAKER_01 (02:44):
I would say it's like a semi-canon and I'm pretty
sure Theo like kind of like puta mix together.
I feel like part of his geniuswith James Gunn is the
interaction where it's like youparticipate based on Easter eggs
of where to what they belong.
For example, when I'm watchingCreature Commandos, a villain,
(03:05):
Dr.
Phosphorus, you see hisupbringing, you know, and it's
really cool.
Like a like a musical, you know,they're dancing, and it looks
joyful, but it's a sad assfucking backstory of the
villain, like a villain, right?
And then like any cartoon orcomic is not a spoiler, but you
see it everywhere where the uhhe's a victim, a villain, the
rise to power overtakes thecriminal organization where he's
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so powerful, like the policecannot get involved, the tanks
they can't get involved, he's asuper villain apparently.
But the silhouette of Batmanshows up and cuts everything.
Like you see how his downfallwas in exactly one frame shot,
which is Batman.
So after you see this awesomeclimatic rise to power, you you
(03:50):
as the viewer could guess offscreen Batman came in, shut the
lights down, and that's all ittook.
SPEAKER_03 (03:55):
He locked him up in Belarus.
SPEAKER_01 (03:57):
And that and that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
And then he joined Task Force, or not Task Force,
Security Commander.
SPEAKER_01 (04:01):
Yes, and and in that process, I I feel like James
Gunn does this with all of withwith a lot of his content, which
is you and Iraq, you put thepieces together.
Like you can assume that thisvillain did chaotic thing,
because then the silhouette ofSuperman shows up.
You can assume yourself thatOkay, if he ends up in prison,
yeah.
Yeah, Superman was the one whoshut him down.
SPEAKER_03 (04:21):
Right.
So the Suicide Squad, I mean alot of those characters I think
he's gonna bring back.
SPEAKER_01 (04:25):
And I think that's the base, like that's the like
the basis, right?
Like the pillars, which are thethree pillars, like you said,
that the holy trinity WonderWoman, Superman, Batman.
SPEAKER_03 (04:33):
Oh, always, always.
So I mean, get ready to put outSuperman, of course.
SPEAKER_01 (04:37):
The first pillar, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (04:38):
So and I mean eventually we're gonna get to
meet Batman and Wonder Woman.
His version of it.
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Well, we know the well everything is gonna be
separate, right?
He did say that.
He's like, the Superman, uh, theBatman is gonna be separate from
like the main DC EU, right?
SPEAKER_03 (04:51):
You know, it's crazy because I heard rumors that he's
gonna try to bring it together.
I like his argument.
SPEAKER_01 (04:56):
And his whole argument was like when you go to
a comic book shop and you guysgo to comic book shops, you guys
you can attest to this.
He said that every cover isdifferent.
Like, pick it up.
You know, Batman's cover is waydifferent than a Superman cover.
A Superman cover can be likevery bright, and then the
Batman's cover can be very dark,and then they're put together in
a single storyline.
SPEAKER_03 (05:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:15):
So that's how he that's how he's pitching it, you
know.
SPEAKER_03 (05:18):
Which is That's a good pitch.
Like also, they don't have to beconnected.
Like he could keep the Batmangoing as his own universe
separate from the DCU mainuniverse, which is something
that happens during comic bookruns.
SPEAKER_02 (05:30):
100%.
SPEAKER_03 (05:31):
Like that's you got you got the main universe
Batman, but then you'll have awhole nother Batman run.
Absolute Batman that's currentlyrunning.
It's a whole nother universe.
SPEAKER_02 (05:40):
Have you seen anything on that, Doug?
SPEAKER_03 (05:41):
Absolute Batman goes hard.
SPEAKER_02 (05:42):
Absolute Batman is insane.
That whole design and setup isinsane.
SPEAKER_03 (05:46):
I'm waiting, I'm waiting to like get the
collected edition.
SPEAKER_02 (05:48):
Oh, yeah, bro.
I'm gonna get like the firstgraphic novel of it.
Yeah, when it's like a hardbackcopy.
Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:54):
There's a trend that people have been showing online
that I really never thoughtabout a topic until I saw it,
you know, in your uh what do youcall it?
Um social media, which is a POVhorror Batman, where you are the
villain.
SPEAKER_02 (06:07):
I've seen that, and you're like inside the house
trying to break in or the lab orwhatever.
SPEAKER_01 (06:11):
And then there's a six foot five fucking guy
dressed like a bat just swoopsout of the air and just snatches
your ass out of the door.
SPEAKER_03 (06:17):
I like that.
I like that.
You know, I like that with likethat alien video game that was
first person, and you were inthe ship and the alien stalks
you, but he's Batman.
SPEAKER_02 (06:26):
Man, can you imagine that?
Hell no.
Hell no, I would never wantthat.
SPEAKER_03 (06:30):
You know, you're trying to be quiet as hell
because he's a ninja.
He's coming out the fuckingroof.
You see a fucking batteringflying, but like you're trying
to hide.
SPEAKER_01 (06:40):
And it's like a team effort where like proximity
chat.
Yeah, everybody can hear you,and then like that like there's
seven people, and then like likeyou can see like seven people
registered in the building, andthen one bleep just goes away.
And that's like shows you likethat.
You know, I haven't seen that.
Yeah, I'm just no, I'm justimagining.
He's pitching that part.
SPEAKER_02 (06:58):
He's pitching that part, he's pitching that part.
The actual game, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (07:02):
Fucking yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
Well, really, you know what?
That makes you think that makesme think of that one video game
that's like uh when you play themonster.
SPEAKER_01 (07:09):
Discover it!
SPEAKER_02 (07:11):
Have you guys seen that game?
Will you play it like as Jasonor Freddie Cougar and you can
like run through the top?
SPEAKER_01 (07:16):
Yes, I play those, yeah.
So now imagine that or somethinglike that.
Yeah, stay alive.
SPEAKER_02 (07:19):
I think it's stay alive or some of the other ones.
But that would be really cool.
But that is Batman?
SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
Like, that's such a cool idea.
SPEAKER_03 (07:25):
Batman, like a like a horror like type game where
it's Batman like stalking you.
SPEAKER_01 (07:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
That'd be cool.
Man, the DLC is like robbingshows up.
SPEAKER_02 (07:33):
Oh, shoot things hunting you.
SPEAKER_03 (07:35):
Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02 (07:36):
What if you get Red Hood?
Red Hood shoots your ass.
SPEAKER_03 (07:37):
You're like, oh, yeah, and some of the other
vigilantes.
Like, that would be cool.
Nightwing is faster than Batman,but not as brutal.
So you keep more speed.
SPEAKER_02 (07:45):
You know what hilarious?
If they got a Batman styleJoker, like he was just in like
Joker just fucking around justwith people inside of a place?
SPEAKER_01 (07:51):
But the thing, like, you know, the place will also be
like creepy because as you'rethe bad guy, you are in like
some kind of like Gothamwarehouse, gotham silo, gotham X
chemical lab.
You just got a job.
SPEAKER_03 (08:03):
You're like a low low time criminal, you just got
a job trying to make some money.
SPEAKER_01 (08:07):
You're pushing poison for a scarecrow.
SPEAKER_02 (08:09):
You're the character that normally gets like slept by
default.
You know what I'm saying?
You're the cube, you're you'rethe X button, you know what I'm
saying?
Yeah, you're normally that guy.
SPEAKER_03 (08:16):
I really like where this is going, man.
SPEAKER_02 (08:17):
I would play though.
SPEAKER_03 (08:18):
WB Studios, WB Studios Get Us Up, uh Mortal
Realm.
Oh, Mortal Kombat style offatalities.
Like injustice type thing.
SPEAKER_01 (08:27):
But a knockout, like like he like it's very painful.
Like, like you see the punch tothe ribs, and you see the crack,
you know?
SPEAKER_02 (08:33):
Yeah, like the x-ray Mortal Kombat.
But the proximity chat, theproximity chat for being so
funny, like the the game wherethey're climbing up the
mountain.
SPEAKER_01 (08:40):
Bro, even though even the mimic.
Oh, shit.
He's kidding them, he's gettingthem.
You're saying that he's gettingthem, and you hear like in the
shadows, he's kidding them.
Like, is your own voice like theAI copies your voice?
But is Batman fucking with you?
Does it throw you off?
Because he's Batman?
SPEAKER_02 (08:57):
I love it.
That'd be badass.
SPEAKER_01 (08:59):
Like he you see him appear and then gas starts
showing the way and disappearsagain.
You know, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_03 (09:03):
That's so cool, man.
That'd be cool, man.
And then he throws like somerandom lines.
I guess you die.
We're a scarecrow.
Where is she?
And then you pass out and thegame ends.
And he's like metaphorically,you realize you were never even
the main character.
Oh, that would be interesting.
It'd be interesting if you werelike really existential.
SPEAKER_02 (09:24):
Like, oh what if you was just another henchman?
What if you're just anotherhenchman, but you're tripping on
scarecrow's gas?
Like scarecrow's gas?
Like it like leaks somewhere inthe facility, and now you're
trying to stop it.
SPEAKER_03 (09:34):
But it's like that's one of the hassers.
That's one of the uh environmenthassers.
That'd be cool.
Like you walk through a room,yeah, and all of a sudden your
vision goes blurry.
And you're like, huh?
SPEAKER_02 (09:46):
And then bats start flying in and then we're like,
oh, that'd be cool, bro.
Sorry, that'd be dope.
That'd be good.
SPEAKER_03 (09:51):
We're thinking of environmental hazards too.
Great game.
Great game.
One of the rooms has the Jokerlaugh gas.
Oh, okay.
So you start laughing for noreason.
SPEAKER_02 (09:59):
And which makes people get attention to you
because you can't stop laughing.
SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
You start making noise.
You start making noise, soBatman finds you quicker.
Damn.
SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
That'd be down.
That'd be a cool ass game.
SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
Like you get to run, then you see like a like a dark
five-foot shadow chasing you,like on the roof.
Like, have you seen the Snyderverse when Bathlick was upside
down?
SPEAKER_02 (10:16):
No, yeah.
Yeah, that'd be scary as shit.
Probably like six foot, not fivefoot.
We really started pitching thatgame.
But I can't wait till it comesout on Steam.
I'm gonna download it.
I'll be the first one to reviewthat shit.
Watch it.
SPEAKER_03 (10:28):
Different DLCs, the different Batman hunt you.
You know, it could be Batfleck.
Bathlick would be brutal.
He's hunting you with a sniper.
What if there's a way?
SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
Oh, and the Nolan one is more gadget, so you have
to watch where you're walking.
Because the Nolan one was moregadget-based.
So like you have to like, ifyou're by a pillar, you gotta be
careful, like a little meanexplosion, and throws you off.
SPEAKER_02 (10:47):
So a tactical Batman versus a brutal Batman, that
would be cool as far as playstyles.
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Depending on what you get, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (10:53):
Yeah, and then and then there's just one that's
just straight stealth.
Well, just goes around on thefucking roofs and just snatches
people up.
That'd be cool, dude.
SPEAKER_03 (10:58):
Maybe like a 1969 Batman where he's just funny.
Oh, that'd be hilarious.
SPEAKER_02 (11:03):
Adam West?
Adam West.
I don't know where Shark is.
Yeah, I would uh I would playthe fuck out of that game, dude.
That'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_03 (11:11):
We're really selling this game.
Yeah, we're really pitching in.
Anyway, so the channel is.
What are we gonna call it, bro?
What are we gonna call it?
One night in Gotham.
SPEAKER_01 (11:18):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (11:19):
One night in Gotham's name.
SPEAKER_01 (11:20):
Henchman's night in Gotham.
SPEAKER_03 (11:23):
Nine to five.
Yeah, I guess Gotham Chronicles.
unknown (11:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
Ooh, Gotham Chronicles.
I like that.
Henchman Chronicles in Gotham.
Gotham's henchman's Chronicles.
SPEAKER_03 (11:31):
Because it could be different levels, too.
Like one night one night you'reworking for Scarecrow.
But you're a freelancer, so thenext night you're working for
Joker.
SPEAKER_01 (11:38):
Like a GTA version.
SPEAKER_03 (11:39):
And you are trying to make it.
Because remember, we talkedabout it in Gotham.
Like, there's no hope, but atthe same time, there is.
You can make it.
Look at Penguin.
SPEAKER_01 (11:48):
That will be badass.
Like there is, like, if you mixit with the GTA, like you cycle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you do judge.
And then you become your ownboss and you become a villain, a
respectable villain in Gotham,where like because you became a
high-level villain in Gotham,Batman starts to hunt you down.
SPEAKER_03 (12:07):
That would be cool as shit.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe in your early missions,it's not even Batman hunting you
know.
It's Nightwing.
It's Robin.
It's Robin, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And those reasons is early, youcould get away, but then once
you get to Batman, you become ahigh-level, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:20):
You can get away.
Oh, your warehouse has beentaken over by Batman.
SPEAKER_02 (12:24):
It's even worse, though, because now you're like
the kingpin, you know, likeright when and we've all seen it
when like the kingpin is runningaway and Batman's stalking their
ass.
He's like, you're getting away.
SPEAKER_01 (12:32):
Dog, that would be cool.
That would be cool.
SPEAKER_03 (12:35):
And then the secret swear to me.
The secret ending is like younever win.
SPEAKER_01 (12:39):
You end up in Blackstone, then like you get
out.
Every time.
SPEAKER_03 (12:43):
Yeah, there's no there's no escaping Batman.
No matter how many tries you tryto try to beat that level, you
can't escape.
The AI is always smarter thanyou.
SPEAKER_01 (12:50):
Yeah, that would be cool.
It's the one where like I don'tI want there was one I heard
about that Warner Brothers gatekept, which was for Shadow
Mordor, where the AI would likerecognize your gaming habits and
come back like in a bit ofstrategy.
Different, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (13:07):
That game was good too.
It had a sequel.
It was the Shadow Mordor.
SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Sometimes they'll recognize you.
Damn, I thought it would becrazy.
SPEAKER_03 (13:13):
It was the nemesis.
The nemesis.
Nemesis, yeah, that's what itwas called.
So like the orcs, the low-levelorcs would recognize you, and
throughout the game, like timewould be like and those
low-level orcs would becomehigh-level orcs, and they would
know you.
SPEAKER_02 (13:26):
And they would have beef with you about if you did,
I didn't help them.
Some guys that you cut off hisarm, and like in the first
battle, is now a general, andhe's like, You son of a bitch,
I'm gonna come and get you.
Yeah, like it's cool.
SPEAKER_01 (13:37):
I think that would have been locked it up.
On the this Batman GTA POVhorror, yeah, um, which would be
that.
In a perfect world where likethe food starts, like, oh shit,
you're you're your own crew,you're the XYZ crew now, you
know?
You fucking did this to me.
We used to work a job togetheragainst Batman.
SPEAKER_02 (13:55):
You get people betraying you in the game
because it's Gotham.
Yeah, that would be cool.
SPEAKER_03 (13:58):
He gets Scarecrow in like one scene, you know, and
he's like Batman is he'squestioning Scarecrow and you or
something.
And the Scarecrow is like, heused to run errands for me.
Damn.
SPEAKER_02 (14:10):
So we got blown away on that one.
We're like, the dishes on usthis motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Because he has that beef and he's thinking over your
business.
SPEAKER_02 (14:19):
That would be interesting, dog.
I would watch that.
SPEAKER_01 (14:21):
James Gunn, if you're hearing this, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:24):
We kept going with that pitch.
That bitch didn't stop.
No, there's a whole universe.
There's there's three games inthat.
SPEAKER_03 (14:31):
I like how we went from like one night experience
to a full RPG.
With smart AI that recognizesyou and shit.
SPEAKER_00 (14:40):
You know?
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (14:41):
It wasn't one night, you're trapped in a mansion,
Batman catches you to like youmake your way out there.
SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
Tell me you wouldn't play that, bro.
I would.
SPEAKER_02 (14:51):
I would play shit immediately, though.
SPEAKER_01 (14:53):
You push all kinds of spice although we fucking got
them, you know?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:57):
You know what?
It's kind of like the mafiagames.
You know what I'm saying?
Like the all the-there's a newone that just came out, Mafia
the Old Country or whatever,that just dropped.
So it's like you're doing shitlike that.
SPEAKER_03 (15:05):
I've put in Gotham a bunch of games.
SPEAKER_02 (15:06):
They do.
Uh they just dropped the recentone, apparently.
I didn't even know they werestill making games.
SPEAKER_03 (15:09):
Dude, they're like on their sixth or seven ones.
Main line, main storyline,because they had a bunch of
spin-ups.
They did.
I know because Amazon Prime wasjust giving out Mafia 2 and 3
and 4.
They were just giving them out.
I got them saved on my laptop.
That's hilarious, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
The badass part is like the AI game will recognize
when you're in like in thebattle against another gang,
like it gets too crazy, and thensuddenly AI summons Batman to
stop it.
So now it's Batman.
SPEAKER_03 (15:36):
And you're trying to get away?
SPEAKER_01 (15:37):
And then Batman tries to look for you.
SPEAKER_03 (15:39):
You're trying to do a gang war, but you gotta keep
the gang war like below the copsrater, because if the cops find
out, then the night light goesup.
And when that you're there, hegoes, that's your that's that's
that's mean you're like in UTA,you're like the stars, the
wanted stars.
It's a night light, cheesenightlights, three night lights.
SPEAKER_02 (15:56):
The first night is Robin.
The second one is like, I don'tknow, Nightwing.
And the next one is like, ohshit, you fucked up.
It's Batman, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (16:02):
Oh shit.
And they even put the duh, duh,duh.
SPEAKER_03 (16:08):
Nah, yeah, that would be like this game is
getting.
I want to play this fuckinggame, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (16:12):
I think it'd be cool because like it'd be like, you
know, like be like true uh truemobster mentality, it'd be like,
I could fight him, right?
You can stay to leave, likechoose to leave or choose to
stay.
But even if you stay, you alwayslose because it's Batman.
Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_01 (16:27):
It's like 10 cards, right?
And all they just pulled outtheir eight case, right?
Yeah.
It's not I'm not talking aboutBatman flies in like Spider-Man.
He comes in with his fucking.
Oh shit.
Oh, he flies in with the badplane.
Start shutting everything down,dude, doo doo.
That would be wild.
SPEAKER_03 (16:41):
And then and then those decisions you make affect
it.
Because if you left, you madeit.
But the henchmen that stayed,some of them remember that you
left them behind.
Oh.
And if you stay, if you stay,you gain some of the respect,
but then you gotta go to BellReeve and start over with lower
resources.
Right, you gotta put time in.
SPEAKER_02 (16:56):
You know what I'm saying?
You know, you gotta make movesbeside the pin.
That would be, dude.
I think it'd be cool.
Like, even the game could giveyou the false hope, like, you're
gonna win, even if you're aboutto pin him in.
That's when he like, he's like,oh, so close, boys.
And then all of his droids andshit come in, and you're like,
fuck, we almost had him.
SPEAKER_03 (17:14):
And then that's when you have to go to Arkham.
Let's not forget about the DLC,the Arkham Asylum level, bro.
There's a riot in Arkham Asylum,and you think you could get out,
but bum!
SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
That'd be crazy, bro.
Like you grow, you develop acrew in Arkham Asylum trying to
escape, and you find the cry toexit.
This is a sequel here.
The Joker's crew, bro.
And at the very end, like youfinally got to the exit of the
island of Arkham Asylum, andit's either jump or Batman
chases you, bro.
So it's like a decision to do,you know.
I'm saying for the third game,so you don't know what the hell
(17:48):
is that.
SPEAKER_03 (17:48):
I'm about to say, look, the first game in that
second game, though.
In that second game where you'restuck in Arkham, it's not even a
Batman game.
Like Batman doesn't even getpromoted.
We like officially say Batman'snot gonna be in the game.
Oh, that ending.
Batman shuts you down.
Let's go!
SPEAKER_02 (18:03):
Bro, that'd be sick.
Okay, so the first game is usebottom henchmen working your way
up, right?
You end like like Scarface atthe top of the world, right?
And then that's when you havelike Batman shuts you down.
Big Bass Batman shuts you downin the major fight.
SPEAKER_03 (18:14):
You end up in Arkham.
SPEAKER_02 (18:14):
Like I said, you almost think you're about to
win.
Like everything is coming out.
You're like, yes, it's gonnawork, it's gonna work.
Ooh, so close.
Batman.
Game ends, right?
You're in prison.
Game two starts, you go throughall of Arkham, right?
And then Batman.
No, no, no.
It's just it's just grindingthrough prison and just doing
things.
SPEAKER_01 (18:28):
Develop a crew fighting, uh Makey Moose trying
to maintain your crew outsidewhatever.
SPEAKER_02 (18:34):
Working with care.
SPEAKER_03 (18:35):
All of it, all of it.
Kroc is in the sewers.
Yeah.
There's something in the sewersthat you need.
So you got a whole level in thesewers where you're like
stealthy.
SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
Oh, you try to recruit either Bay or recruit
either Croc to your crew?
Look, look, then you can make itlook now you got turf wars.
SPEAKER_02 (18:49):
Look, now you got turf wars.
Depending on your alliances,depends on how your turf works.
SPEAKER_03 (18:54):
Because croc is the lower levels.
Killer crooks got all the lowerunderground levels, and then I
don't know, Bane's got all theother levels.
SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
So in those areas, you could roam freely, and the
other ones you got a stealth andshit.
SPEAKER_01 (19:03):
You can only pick one, but the whole point is like
you either have either one bigally, Clayface, Bane, or Croc.
SPEAKER_02 (19:09):
Oh, we're gonna throw Clayface in the bank.
That'd be sick as fuck.
SPEAKER_01 (19:15):
Then you each have these special abilities, like
Clayface can add extra 10soldiers.
SPEAKER_03 (19:19):
And is it all the same type it's all the same type
of gameplay, so it's all firstPOB horror type stuff.
Okay, so what's the third game?
SPEAKER_02 (19:26):
The third game is what?
So and now it's Arkham City?
SPEAKER_03 (19:31):
We put a lot of creative stuff down, man.
You gotta give us time.
We hit a wall on that one.
Like we can't, we're gonna havelike two.
20 years later, we're stillpromoting it.
The ending of the second game.
Nobody nobody expected Batman toshow up, but he did, you know?
SPEAKER_01 (19:54):
And like your character falls off the cliff,
jumpy, but you don't know whathappened, you know?
SPEAKER_02 (19:57):
So that's how the series ends.
SPEAKER_01 (19:59):
Well, we just didn't do a party three.
SPEAKER_02 (20:01):
No, look, and then you release PC versions of them.
The only 12 people actuallyplay.
The remaster version of it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
Over and over again.
SPEAKER_02 (20:08):
And then if you if you do all the up, right, down,
left, right, cut, everybody hastheories.
Get all the mystery riddles, allthat shit, you know what I'm
saying?
SPEAKER_01 (20:14):
You can go to the cons promoted, like if we're
gonna like here, we have aspecial announcer for the new
Batman game.
And then it's like, oh shit, thethird part's.
The remaster for Nintendo Trash!
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
Let's go!
unknown (20:27):
Fuck you!
SPEAKER_02 (20:28):
Because it's so real.
That is the shit that they do.
SPEAKER_03 (20:32):
Tell me you want to play Batman on the Nintendo.
You put Gotham Chronicles on theSwitch.
On the go?
You could play Switch on the gowith motion controls.
One and two.
SPEAKER_01 (20:42):
And then the year after that, we finally put all
the money together.
We're like, hey guys.
SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
I think we can finally like finish the story.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
And we're gonna go ahead first start with the VR
rematch.
SPEAKER_03 (20:52):
We're gonna reintroduce the first game of
VRB.
But tell me you would haveplayed out in VR though.
V R P O V Batman hunting youdown.
I'm sweating.
SPEAKER_02 (21:00):
Look, at this point, the whole motion capture suits
exist.
So now you got a whole room thatyou can run around in.
You know?
You feel like you're gettingtaken by Batman.
SPEAKER_03 (21:07):
We're gonna get jokes.
We're gonna get jokes.
GTA 6 came out before GothamChronicles 3.
SPEAKER_02 (21:15):
Bro, why is it so real though?
Full AI came out before GC3.
They're doing it right now, bro.
unknown (21:22):
Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
I'm gonna play this game so bad right now, bro.
How do I Chat GPT 5?
Make a game like this.
Use the nemesis back in if youhave to.
SPEAKER_02 (21:34):
Use this audio file.
Let me know how it works.
SPEAKER_01 (21:37):
Hey, what if I upload this transcript into
ChatGPT?
That's what I'm saying, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (21:41):
Hey, ChatGPT, take it this transcript, improve it,
and make it for ChatGPT.
Ask me any clarifying questionsyou may have.
SPEAKER_03 (21:49):
That was good, man.
I I couldn't even get started onthat.
We'll come back to you on thestory for the third one.
Uh a future episode.
Look out for GC3 coming toGotham City 3.
Gotham Chronicles.
Gotham Chronicles, sorry.
Or what's that name we agreewith?
SPEAKER_01 (22:05):
Part three, we have to expand beyond the Gotham
verse.
Like we have to do some suicideshit.
SPEAKER_03 (22:09):
Oh.
Okay.
Okay.
Here we go.
SPEAKER_00 (22:13):
Here we go.
SPEAKER_03 (22:14):
Are we going to Metropolis boy?
So you were you were trapped inour game.
You jumped off.
Okay.
Batman is still trying to findyou.
Yes.
But he doesn't find you.
Wallace finds you.
Yes, I thought the Waller findsyou.
The jumper comes in.
You know, commandos drop off,they pick you up, and you see
you fly away, and then you see asign.
(22:35):
They'll reave.
That's where it's at.
SPEAKER_01 (22:38):
Yeah, yes.
She wants you because throughgame one and two, she loves the
fact you can recruit people inyour organization.
In the first one, you did it tobecome a criminal.
The second one you did it toescape Gotham.
And so in part three, it's yourjob to recruit the suicide
squad.
SPEAKER_02 (22:54):
Yeah.
You know what'd be cool if youhad to go to different cities.
You have to go to Metropolis?
Yes.
You gotta go to where's theflash from?
Central City.
Central City?
And then you still gotta go backto Gotham and then one more.
Amazon Amazon City or Amazonia.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (23:04):
So we have to introduce Quick Travel.
SPEAKER_03 (23:07):
Yeah.
Man, that would be interesting.
Okay, so you start in well, youstart in prison again, and then
you gotta recruit some of theinmates that are already in
prison.
SPEAKER_01 (23:16):
Which is the demo.
But you're at the top of theprison now, though.
No, this is the demo part.
You know how in the game, likeyou have like a demo map?
SPEAKER_02 (23:21):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (23:22):
And so there's the prison's a demo map.
So explain you like the story,yeah.
How did the controls are?
Yeah, asking people questionsand shit like that.
SPEAKER_03 (23:33):
Some of the cell, you know, because uh at night
you're gonna be hunted down byuh by the by but by competition,
you know you're about to gethit.
SPEAKER_02 (23:39):
Right.
So the boys tell you, hey, youget to make sure you get out of
the cell tonight beforemidnight.
SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
And there's no Batman in this game, alright?
Because I'll tell you who's thereal villain, because the whole
point of the game ends up theclimatic, like war style of
Avengers game.
It's the Court of Owls.
So, like, whatever you build,you know, you're gonna be
fighting the same shit versuswhich is the Court of Vows
organization.
SPEAKER_00 (24:02):
I like that.
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
So what's hunting you is the court of owls at the
same time.
So all this creepy shit, youryour crew starts disappearing,
and you know.
SPEAKER_03 (24:11):
I mean, is there is there a connection?
Is there a connection throughCourt of Vows?
Like somehow you come to likeyou come from an old Gotham
bloodline where you were likeyou come from a rich family, but
you lost everything, and that'show you had to start as an edge
man.
SPEAKER_01 (24:24):
Which ties back one or why you're so good at Bro,
this feels like Assassin'sCreed.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
I feel like Assassin's Creed right now.
We're like, bro, we're gonna goback six generations to what he
was the Don.
SPEAKER_03 (24:34):
Yeah, you find out you find out that when Gotham
was found that you had thefating fathers, you had the
Wings and you have his parents,or his great-great-great.
What are we gonna call him?
What are we gonna call him?
Is a character created.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:48):
The audience selects games.
SPEAKER_02 (24:50):
Motherfucker.
Okay, I'm listening.
That's fine.
In 1876, it was the Wains versusthe motherfuckers.
Yes.
I love that, bro.
And look, somehow along theline, you lost your dynasty.
Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:04):
Yeah, you lost it all.
You had you you didn't even knowyou were you were from the one
of the Gotham's foundingfamilies.
And the Cordog was trying tohunt you down because they had
their own internal struggle andthey're looking for the next
leader, and you are the only onewith that bloodline.
SPEAKER_01 (25:19):
Damn.
SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
Yeah, that was a great politics.
SPEAKER_01 (25:22):
Yes.
Oh, so who's who's fighting youis the other families.
So you don't take control.
Because they think that whatthey think you're building an
army to fight them, but inreality, is uh is Wallace's
organization that you arehandling.
So in the miscommunication, buthe says, fuck that.
You know, oh, I guess that'spart of the game.
(25:43):
You get to decide if you want tobe working for Wallace, create
your own our organization.
SPEAKER_03 (25:48):
Or you want to you're gonna take over Cardival.
Or take that's a great fuckingchoice.
SPEAKER_01 (25:52):
That's part of the game.
That's part three.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
Or look, the the gray route, fuck them both.
You start your own shit.
Damn, that'd be wild.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:59):
That's the hidden route.
SPEAKER_02 (26:00):
There you go.
That's the 50-50.
If you manage to get the gameexactly at 50% good, 50% evil.
SPEAKER_01 (26:04):
So who would you pick?
Like towards the end.
So what would you hit yourcharacter go lean towards you?
Where does it end for you?
Where does the character end?
SPEAKER_02 (26:10):
Oh man.
We're gonna have 97 differentendings for this game, guys.
So yeah, we never lose.
SPEAKER_03 (26:15):
We're gonna have a lot of different endings.
But if you hit all the rightmarks, talk to all the right
people.
SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
Like it like it's just like that.
After three games, you get shutdown again.
Like, like you win, like you'rein the chair, you're celebrating
the big party, then the lightstarted flicker, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
Yes, the light started flickering.
It's all POV.
SPEAKER_03 (26:47):
You screw with the radio, it's here.
unknown (26:52):
Damn.
SPEAKER_03 (26:54):
No, no, but you get the game mechanics from the
first one.
So you get the radar coming upon your wrist.
Oh, your henchman, you see, it'sa flashback to the very first
game.
SPEAKER_02 (27:04):
Damn.
The game cuts to the originalfucking you're trying to run
through the house or some shitlike that.
SPEAKER_03 (27:09):
It's a flashback of you trying to run through the
house.
SPEAKER_02 (27:11):
No, that'd be insane.
And then it cuts back.
SPEAKER_01 (27:16):
All over again.
SPEAKER_03 (27:17):
If you haven't played game one yet, okay, how
about this?
During the dialogue, the finalscene dialogue, one of the guys
goes like, wait, I know thismansion.
And it's the mansion that youfirst try to steal out of in the
game.
SPEAKER_02 (27:29):
Oh shit.
So that was really cool.
I got excited on that one dog.
That was a realization.
I was like, it's the first one.
SPEAKER_01 (27:39):
Yeah, well, you started as a petty criminal,
right?
Yeah, you didn't even realize,yeah.
It was like a Wayne InstitutionMuseum.
Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_03 (27:48):
So the cord of house took it over somehow, but then
all of a sudden you realizebecause you look at the map and
it was like, it's the same map.
That's gangster.
Damn.
I played that.
SPEAKER_02 (27:57):
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Bro, were we supposed to talkabout something else this
episode?
SPEAKER_01 (28:03):
Damn, man.
SPEAKER_02 (28:04):
We just pitched the craziest best Bad Bang game.
SPEAKER_01 (28:07):
I can't wait to put this in the chat GPT and see
what it gives, man.
Never made.
SPEAKER_03 (28:11):
Jesus.
Is it three parts?
It's bro, it's a whole threegames.
We just did 20 decades of games.
Multiple remasters.
A VR version! A Nintendo Switchversion.
Eight years of teasing partthree.
Well, they came out with a TCGfor it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:32):
I love it, man.
I love it.
But yeah, no, I don't I don'tthink we have time for anything
else on this one, guys.
SPEAKER_03 (28:37):
This is a great mastery of We were talking about
Peacemaker, and the one thing Igotta talk about Peacemaker,
what real quick, real quick.
Okay, what the fuck was up withthat?
What the fuck was up with thatorgy?
SPEAKER_01 (28:53):
Best orgy scene ever.
Came out of fucking nowhere.
SPEAKER_03 (28:56):
That's why y'all.
Like my man takes a hit, uh, abunk hit for emergency purposes
only.
The fucking uh lines of cokecomes back up and make it people
everywhere, bro.
I thought Herogasm was bad.
This was way more crazy thanHerogasm.
SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
I'm telling them titties everywhere.
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
And I don't get it.
Like, how do you how is he like,bro?
SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
This is HBO was like, here's a budget.
SPEAKER_03 (29:23):
This is required for the storyline.
This is pivotal to the plot.
This is pivotal to the plot.
Every set of titties.
SPEAKER_01 (29:31):
They weren't just like just showing them, like
they were like doing things,bro.
It was like a softcore.
SPEAKER_02 (29:36):
Really?
See, look, that right there isalready gonna show me that James
Gunn's DCU is gonna be waydifferent.
SPEAKER_03 (29:43):
Which is like, okay, cool.
We got the the projects that arefor kids.
Superman, very kid friendlymovie.
But then we got the projectsthat are like, hey, this is This
is for adults.
This is for adults.
SPEAKER_01 (29:53):
You're saying Clayfix gonna be a horror movie.
That's true.
The amount of fucks that aredropping.
SPEAKER_03 (29:57):
Here's the thing DC has always had like Like a
darker side on like Marvel.
Because Marvel's done by Disney,nah.
But DC had a lot of like blacklabels.
Black labels were like thehorror labels.
SPEAKER_02 (30:09):
Yeah, he's not wrong.
Yeah, I remember more gruesomescenes that are gonna happen
that happen in DC.
SPEAKER_03 (30:13):
DC has all those like serious graphic novels like
Watchmen and others.
SPEAKER_02 (30:17):
Yeah, Watchmen, bro.
Yeah.
Some really like some prettyviolent ones.
Like if you think about theVietnam War scenes from Watchmen
kind of things like that thatended up in the graphic novels
and stuff.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:26):
So I'm glad I'm glad that he's not afraid to go with
some darker, mature story.
SPEAKER_02 (30:29):
But he has the option to.
SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
In this case, I wouldn't say darker is just an
orgy, but Peacemaker is verymuch not for kids.
If you guys haven't seen it, ifyou haven't seen it.
SPEAKER_01 (30:38):
You may not let the kids watch it.
SPEAKER_03 (30:40):
I like one of the characters kind of explained
this Well, Peacemaker has alwaysbeen a very free spirit type of
character.
SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
The one thing I saw that I thought was great in the
behind the scenes was that Janethat John Cena's never done
drugs.
He had to ask him how to do abong hit.
Did you know that?
Yeah.
Oh really?
He didn't know how to smokeweed, bro.
He had no idea.
SPEAKER_03 (30:55):
Because uh somebody said in the comments, it's like
John Cena's whole career hasdepended on him being like
maximum healthy, you know, himkeeping a healthy lifestyle for
the wrestling.
I mean, I'm sure you could getinto drugs and wrestling.
We know a lot of wrestlers did.
But he was one that alwaysstayed healthy.
SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
Yeah, he was a great like example to kids and stuff.
So I guess he never wanted toget on drugs.
He never did drugs, he neversmoked weed.
But it was so funny, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (31:16):
Like he's like, You can tell because he does the
bunk hit, and I was like, nah,he didn't do that.
Didn't he do that?
I was like, man, nah.
After watching that interview, Ilooked at it, I was like, oh
yeah, he doesn't know how to hitthat.
SPEAKER_02 (31:28):
Yeah, bro.
You but you buy it at first, buthe's like, I'm trying to make
this look legit.
SPEAKER_03 (31:31):
It's hilarious, man.
But uh, but yeah, but I'm reallyexcited for what Peacemaker
brings.
SPEAKER_02 (31:37):
Get ready for a season two Peacemaker.
It's gonna be amazing.
Get ready for the new Batmanseries that we got coming out.
SPEAKER_03 (31:43):
If you guys want to hit us at the Good for the game,
hit us at the GoFundMe.
SPEAKER_02 (31:48):
We'll get out to creators on stream on Steam, you
know, who make this shit.
We'll make it happen for youguys.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
Hey, Suki, what was your thoughts?
We're gonna do some unboxingscoming soon.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Uh, we're gonna do some Gundamcar game unboxings.
It's really hot right now.
In case you guys were able toget some product, so we're gonna
record some live coming out.
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To Bandai for sponsoring us.
SPEAKER_03 (32:05):
Shout out to Bandai.
Shout out Bandai.
Uh Bandai.
We love Gundam.
I got a full case of Gundamsover here.
I got some more Gundams.
Well, no, those are white.
Thank you for showing us somelove.
These guys are Gundams overhere.
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
The guy, the CEO, is a big fan.
A shout out to Gundam overthere.
Don't even start.
I'm about to say.
Try homie.
SPEAKER_02 (32:23):
All right, guys.
You know, I do want to giveSuki's sake.
What did you think about thevideo game, Suki?
Oh no.
There's our time.
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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you so much for tuning into the WBM podcast.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:14):
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SPEAKER_01 (00:19):
That's right.
Are we talking some DCU?
That's right, some James Gunn.
SPEAKER_03 (00:22):
DCU, that's right.
The new universe.
That's right.
SPEAKER_01 (00:25):
That's not like university school.
DCU, go get him.
SPEAKER_02 (00:28):
DCU.
What would be their mascot?
SPEAKER_01 (00:30):
A bat.
You know, you know it.
What else we got, boys?
Uh yeah, we have some more stufflined up.
SPEAKER_02 (00:39):
We do.
Before anybody else asks, we'regoing to talk about.
SPEAKER_03 (00:42):
We're going to just talk about James Gunn's series.
SPEAKER_02 (00:44):
James Gunn, the DCU, some, you know, some anime
stuff, the things that we alwaysdo.
That's right, y'all.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (00:49):
You can bring in some anime stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (00:50):
Always going to bring up some anime stuff.
And you want to talk about OnePiece, right?
I do.
And I also want to talk aboutyou in your 20s versus in your
30s.
No.
Oh, everything hurts.
We'll find out on this one.
I love how we didn't haveanything to say, and then we ran
into like time.
(01:12):
Well, because we had our topic.
What was your topic, sir?
Oh, you guys are on for a funone then on this one, boys.
All right.
What do you want to start with?
Let's start up with the DCU.
James Gunn, peace make it a bitmore.
SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
Let's start with the DCU, the DC Universe, which is
the new universe that James Connis trying to set up.
Yeah.
He's trying to make a freshstart.
But it's funny because it's nota fresh start.
It's more like a soft reboot.
Yes.
I don't know why I said it likethat.
But yeah, it's a soft reboot.
What do you call it a softreboot?
Uh XFR.
SPEAKER_01 (01:43):
I called it like just roll with the reboot.
I would say it's a retcon.
He's doing roll with it.
Roll with the.
You know, because honestly, bro,it's like you know who the who
you know who we are.
The bat, the S, the D, the Y,the D.
The D.
The WW, the W W, the W.
SPEAKER_03 (02:00):
The B, the S, the B dubs.
The Holy Trinity.
Yeah.
I mean, that's it.
But they have the man, WonderWoman.
They haven't appeared yet.
But yeah, it's funny becauseJames Scum has been working
within DC.
So I would think like these Dprojects are part of the new
universe that he started to setup.
That's right.
So the Suicide Squad movie, notthe original Suicide Squad, but
(02:21):
the Suicide Squad movies.
That was also a soft reboot inand of itself.
SPEAKER_02 (02:26):
Yeah, it really was.
I think he already had a vision.
I think he may have given apitch for a whole universe
during that one movie.
SPEAKER_03 (02:32):
Yeah.
And he was like, hey, this iswhat I'm trying to do.
I'm trying to make some changes.
And then it went up for sale.
And he's like, oh shit.
Yeah.
So did Suicide Squad uh wouldyou would say is uh semi-canon?
SPEAKER_01 (02:44):
I would say it's like a semi-canon and I'm pretty
sure Theo like kind of like puta mix together.
I feel like part of his geniuswith James Gunn is the
interaction where it's like youparticipate based on Easter eggs
of where to what they belong.
For example, when I'm watchingCreature Commandos, a villain,
(03:05):
Dr.
Phosphorus, you see hisupbringing, you know, and it's
really cool.
Like a like a musical, you know,they're dancing, and it looks
joyful, but it's a sad assfucking backstory of the
villain, like a villain, right?
And then like any cartoon orcomic is not a spoiler, but you
see it everywhere where the uhhe's a victim, a villain, the
rise to power overtakes thecriminal organization where he's
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so powerful, like the policecannot get involved, the tanks
they can't get involved, he's asuper villain apparently.
But the silhouette of Batmanshows up and cuts everything.
Like you see how his downfallwas in exactly one frame shot,
which is Batman.
So after you see this awesomeclimatic rise to power, you you
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as the viewer could guess offscreen Batman came in, shut the
lights down, and that's all ittook.
SPEAKER_03 (03:55):
He locked him up in Belarus.
SPEAKER_01 (03:57):
And that and that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
And then he joined Task Force, or not Task Force,
Security Commander.
SPEAKER_01 (04:01):
Yes, and and in that process, I I feel like James
Gunn does this with all of withwith a lot of his content, which
is you and Iraq, you put thepieces together.
Like you can assume that thisvillain did chaotic thing,
because then the silhouette ofSuperman shows up.
You can assume yourself thatOkay, if he ends up in prison,
yeah.
Yeah, Superman was the one whoshut him down.
SPEAKER_03 (04:21):
Right.
So the Suicide Squad, I mean alot of those characters I think
he's gonna bring back.
SPEAKER_01 (04:25):
And I think that's the base, like that's the like
the basis, right?
Like the pillars, which are thethree pillars, like you said,
that the holy trinity WonderWoman, Superman, Batman.
SPEAKER_03 (04:33):
Oh, always, always.
So I mean, get ready to put outSuperman, of course.
SPEAKER_01 (04:37):
The first pillar, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (04:38):
So and I mean eventually we're gonna get to
meet Batman and Wonder Woman.
His version of it.
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Well, we know the well everything is gonna be
separate, right?
He did say that.
He's like, the Superman, uh, theBatman is gonna be separate from
like the main DC EU, right?
SPEAKER_03 (04:51):
You know, it's crazy because I heard rumors that he's
gonna try to bring it together.
I like his argument.
SPEAKER_01 (04:56):
And his whole argument was like when you go to
a comic book shop and you guysgo to comic book shops, you guys
you can attest to this.
He said that every cover isdifferent.
Like, pick it up.
You know, Batman's cover is waydifferent than a Superman cover.
A Superman cover can be likevery bright, and then the
Batman's cover can be very dark,and then they're put together in
a single storyline.
SPEAKER_03 (05:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (05:15):
So that's how he that's how he's pitching it, you
know.
SPEAKER_03 (05:18):
Which is That's a good pitch.
Like also, they don't have to beconnected.
Like he could keep the Batmangoing as his own universe
separate from the DCU mainuniverse, which is something
that happens during comic bookruns.
SPEAKER_02 (05:30):
100%.
SPEAKER_03 (05:31):
Like that's you got you got the main universe
Batman, but then you'll have awhole nother Batman run.
Absolute Batman that's currentlyrunning.
It's a whole nother universe.
SPEAKER_02 (05:40):
Have you seen anything on that, Doug?
SPEAKER_03 (05:41):
Absolute Batman goes hard.
SPEAKER_02 (05:42):
Absolute Batman is insane.
That whole design and setup isinsane.
SPEAKER_03 (05:46):
I'm waiting, I'm waiting to like get the
collected edition.
SPEAKER_02 (05:48):
Oh, yeah, bro.
I'm gonna get like the firstgraphic novel of it.
Yeah, when it's like a hardbackcopy.
Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:54):
There's a trend that people have been showing online
that I really never thoughtabout a topic until I saw it,
you know, in your uh what do youcall it?
Um social media, which is a POVhorror Batman, where you are the
villain.
SPEAKER_02 (06:07):
I've seen that, and you're like inside the house
trying to break in or the lab orwhatever.
SPEAKER_01 (06:11):
And then there's a six foot five fucking guy
dressed like a bat just swoopsout of the air and just snatches
your ass out of the door.
SPEAKER_03 (06:17):
I like that.
I like that.
You know, I like that with likethat alien video game that was
first person, and you were inthe ship and the alien stalks
you, but he's Batman.
SPEAKER_02 (06:26):
Man, can you imagine that?
Hell no.
Hell no, I would never wantthat.
SPEAKER_03 (06:30):
You know, you're trying to be quiet as hell
because he's a ninja.
He's coming out the fuckingroof.
You see a fucking batteringflying, but like you're trying
to hide.
SPEAKER_01 (06:40):
And it's like a team effort where like proximity
chat.
Yeah, everybody can hear you,and then like that like there's
seven people, and then like likeyou can see like seven people
registered in the building, andthen one bleep just goes away.
And that's like shows you likethat.
You know, I haven't seen that.
Yeah, I'm just no, I'm justimagining.
He's pitching that part.
SPEAKER_02 (06:58):
He's pitching that part, he's pitching that part.
The actual game, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (07:02):
Fucking yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
Well, really, you know what?
That makes you think that makesme think of that one video game
that's like uh when you play themonster.
SPEAKER_01 (07:09):
Discover it!
SPEAKER_02 (07:11):
Have you guys seen that game?
Will you play it like as Jasonor Freddie Cougar and you can
like run through the top?
SPEAKER_01 (07:16):
Yes, I play those, yeah.
So now imagine that or somethinglike that.
Yeah, stay alive.
SPEAKER_02 (07:19):
I think it's stay alive or some of the other ones.
But that would be really cool.
But that is Batman?
SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
Like, that's such a cool idea.
SPEAKER_03 (07:25):
Batman, like a like a horror like type game where
it's Batman like stalking you.
SPEAKER_01 (07:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
That'd be cool.
Man, the DLC is like robbingshows up.
SPEAKER_02 (07:33):
Oh, shoot things hunting you.
SPEAKER_03 (07:35):
Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02 (07:36):
What if you get Red Hood?
Red Hood shoots your ass.
SPEAKER_03 (07:37):
You're like, oh, yeah, and some of the other
vigilantes.
Like, that would be cool.
Nightwing is faster than Batman,but not as brutal.
So you keep more speed.
SPEAKER_02 (07:45):
You know what hilarious?
If they got a Batman styleJoker, like he was just in like
Joker just fucking around justwith people inside of a place?
SPEAKER_01 (07:51):
But the thing, like, you know, the place will also be
like creepy because as you'rethe bad guy, you are in like
some kind of like Gothamwarehouse, gotham silo, gotham X
chemical lab.
You just got a job.
SPEAKER_03 (08:03):
You're like a low low time criminal, you just got
a job trying to make some money.
SPEAKER_01 (08:07):
You're pushing poison for a scarecrow.
SPEAKER_02 (08:09):
You're the character that normally gets like slept by
default.
You know what I'm saying?
You're the cube, you're you'rethe X button, you know what I'm
saying?
Yeah, you're normally that guy.
SPEAKER_03 (08:16):
I really like where this is going, man.
SPEAKER_02 (08:17):
I would play though.
SPEAKER_03 (08:18):
WB Studios, WB Studios Get Us Up, uh Mortal
Realm.
Oh, Mortal Kombat style offatalities.
Like injustice type thing.
SPEAKER_01 (08:27):
But a knockout, like like he like it's very painful.
Like, like you see the punch tothe ribs, and you see the crack,
you know?
SPEAKER_02 (08:33):
Yeah, like the x-ray Mortal Kombat.
But the proximity chat, theproximity chat for being so
funny, like the the game wherethey're climbing up the
mountain.
SPEAKER_01 (08:40):
Bro, even though even the mimic.
Oh, shit.
He's kidding them, he's gettingthem.
You're saying that he's gettingthem, and you hear like in the
shadows, he's kidding them.
Like, is your own voice like theAI copies your voice?
But is Batman fucking with you?
Does it throw you off?
Because he's Batman?
SPEAKER_02 (08:57):
I love it.
That'd be badass.
SPEAKER_01 (08:59):
Like he you see him appear and then gas starts
showing the way and disappearsagain.
You know, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_03 (09:03):
That's so cool, man.
That'd be cool, man.
And then he throws like somerandom lines.
I guess you die.
We're a scarecrow.
Where is she?
And then you pass out and thegame ends.
And he's like metaphorically,you realize you were never even
the main character.
Oh, that would be interesting.
It'd be interesting if you werelike really existential.
SPEAKER_02 (09:24):
Like, oh what if you was just another henchman?
What if you're just anotherhenchman, but you're tripping on
scarecrow's gas?
Like scarecrow's gas?
Like it like leaks somewhere inthe facility, and now you're
trying to stop it.
SPEAKER_03 (09:34):
But it's like that's one of the hassers.
That's one of the uh environmenthassers.
That'd be cool.
Like you walk through a room,yeah, and all of a sudden your
vision goes blurry.
And you're like, huh?
SPEAKER_02 (09:46):
And then bats start flying in and then we're like,
oh, that'd be cool, bro.
Sorry, that'd be dope.
That'd be good.
SPEAKER_03 (09:51):
We're thinking of environmental hazards too.
Great game.
Great game.
One of the rooms has the Jokerlaugh gas.
Oh, okay.
So you start laughing for noreason.
SPEAKER_02 (09:59):
And which makes people get attention to you
because you can't stop laughing.
SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
You start making noise.
You start making noise, soBatman finds you quicker.
Damn.
SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
That'd be down.
That'd be a cool ass game.
SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
Like you get to run, then you see like a like a dark
five-foot shadow chasing you,like on the roof.
Like, have you seen the Snyderverse when Bathlick was upside
down?
SPEAKER_02 (10:16):
No, yeah.
Yeah, that'd be scary as shit.
Probably like six foot, not fivefoot.
We really started pitching thatgame.
But I can't wait till it comesout on Steam.
I'm gonna download it.
I'll be the first one to reviewthat shit.
Watch it.
SPEAKER_03 (10:28):
Different DLCs, the different Batman hunt you.
You know, it could be Batfleck.
Bathlick would be brutal.
He's hunting you with a sniper.
What if there's a way?
SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
Oh, and the Nolan one is more gadget, so you have
to watch where you're walking.
Because the Nolan one was moregadget-based.
So like you have to like, ifyou're by a pillar, you gotta be
careful, like a little meanexplosion, and throws you off.
SPEAKER_02 (10:47):
So a tactical Batman versus a brutal Batman, that
would be cool as far as playstyles.
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Depending on what you get, you know.
SPEAKER_02 (10:53):
Yeah, and then and then there's just one that's
just straight stealth.
Well, just goes around on thefucking roofs and just snatches
people up.
That'd be cool, dude.
SPEAKER_03 (10:58):
Maybe like a 1969 Batman where he's just funny.
Oh, that'd be hilarious.
SPEAKER_02 (11:03):
Adam West?
Adam West.
I don't know where Shark is.
Yeah, I would uh I would playthe fuck out of that game, dude.
That'd be awesome.
SPEAKER_03 (11:11):
We're really selling this game.
Yeah, we're really pitching in.
Anyway, so the channel is.
What are we gonna call it, bro?
What are we gonna call it?
One night in Gotham.
SPEAKER_01 (11:18):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (11:19):
One night in Gotham's name.
SPEAKER_01 (11:20):
Henchman's night in Gotham.
SPEAKER_03 (11:23):
Nine to five.
Yeah, I guess Gotham Chronicles.
unknown (11:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
Ooh, Gotham Chronicles.
I like that.
Henchman Chronicles in Gotham.
Gotham's henchman's Chronicles.
SPEAKER_03 (11:31):
Because it could be different levels, too.
Like one night one night you'reworking for Scarecrow.
But you're a freelancer, so thenext night you're working for
Joker.
SPEAKER_01 (11:38):
Like a GTA version.
SPEAKER_03 (11:39):
And you are trying to make it.
Because remember, we talkedabout it in Gotham.
Like, there's no hope, but atthe same time, there is.
You can make it.
Look at Penguin.
SPEAKER_01 (11:48):
That will be badass.
Like there is, like, if you mixit with the GTA, like you cycle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you do judge.
And then you become your ownboss and you become a villain, a
respectable villain in Gotham,where like because you became a
high-level villain in Gotham,Batman starts to hunt you down.
SPEAKER_03 (12:07):
That would be cool as shit.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe in your early missions,it's not even Batman hunting you
know.
It's Nightwing.
It's Robin.
It's Robin, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And those reasons is early, youcould get away, but then once
you get to Batman, you become ahigh-level, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:20):
You can get away.
Oh, your warehouse has beentaken over by Batman.
SPEAKER_02 (12:24):
It's even worse, though, because now you're like
the kingpin, you know, likeright when and we've all seen it
when like the kingpin is runningaway and Batman's stalking their
ass.
He's like, you're getting away.
SPEAKER_01 (12:32):
Dog, that would be cool.
That would be cool.
SPEAKER_03 (12:35):
And then the secret swear to me.
The secret ending is like younever win.
SPEAKER_01 (12:39):
You end up in Blackstone, then like you get
out.
Every time.
SPEAKER_03 (12:43):
Yeah, there's no there's no escaping Batman.
No matter how many tries you tryto try to beat that level, you
can't escape.
The AI is always smarter thanyou.
SPEAKER_01 (12:50):
Yeah, that would be cool.
It's the one where like I don'tI want there was one I heard
about that Warner Brothers gatekept, which was for Shadow
Mordor, where the AI would likerecognize your gaming habits and
come back like in a bit ofstrategy.
Different, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (13:07):
That game was good too.
It had a sequel.
It was the Shadow Mordor.
SPEAKER_01 (13:10):
Sometimes they'll recognize you.
Damn, I thought it would becrazy.
SPEAKER_03 (13:13):
It was the nemesis.
The nemesis.
Nemesis, yeah, that's what itwas called.
So like the orcs, the low-levelorcs would recognize you, and
throughout the game, like timewould be like and those
low-level orcs would becomehigh-level orcs, and they would
know you.
SPEAKER_02 (13:26):
And they would have beef with you about if you did,
I didn't help them.
Some guys that you cut off hisarm, and like in the first
battle, is now a general, andhe's like, You son of a bitch,
I'm gonna come and get you.
Yeah, like it's cool.
SPEAKER_01 (13:37):
I think that would have been locked it up.
On the this Batman GTA POVhorror, yeah, um, which would be
that.
In a perfect world where likethe food starts, like, oh shit,
you're you're your own crew,you're the XYZ crew now, you
know?
You fucking did this to me.
We used to work a job togetheragainst Batman.
SPEAKER_02 (13:55):
You get people betraying you in the game
because it's Gotham.
Yeah, that would be cool.
SPEAKER_03 (13:58):
He gets Scarecrow in like one scene, you know, and
he's like Batman is he'squestioning Scarecrow and you or
something.
And the Scarecrow is like, heused to run errands for me.
Damn.
SPEAKER_02 (14:10):
So we got blown away on that one.
We're like, the dishes on usthis motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Because he has that beef and he's thinking over your
business.
SPEAKER_02 (14:19):
That would be interesting, dog.
I would watch that.
SPEAKER_01 (14:21):
James Gunn, if you're hearing this, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:24):
We kept going with that pitch.
That bitch didn't stop.
No, there's a whole universe.
There's there's three games inthat.
SPEAKER_03 (14:31):
I like how we went from like one night experience
to a full RPG.
With smart AI that recognizesyou and shit.
SPEAKER_00 (14:40):
You know?
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (14:41):
It wasn't one night, you're trapped in a mansion,
Batman catches you to like youmake your way out there.
SPEAKER_01 (14:50):
Tell me you wouldn't play that, bro.
I would.
SPEAKER_02 (14:51):
I would play shit immediately, though.
SPEAKER_01 (14:53):
You push all kinds of spice although we fucking got
them, you know?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:57):
You know what?
It's kind of like the mafiagames.
You know what I'm saying?
Like the all the-there's a newone that just came out, Mafia
the Old Country or whatever,that just dropped.
So it's like you're doing shitlike that.
SPEAKER_03 (15:05):
I've put in Gotham a bunch of games.
SPEAKER_02 (15:06):
They do.
Uh they just dropped the recentone, apparently.
I didn't even know they werestill making games.
SPEAKER_03 (15:09):
Dude, they're like on their sixth or seven ones.
Main line, main storyline,because they had a bunch of
spin-ups.
They did.
I know because Amazon Prime wasjust giving out Mafia 2 and 3
and 4.
They were just giving them out.
I got them saved on my laptop.
That's hilarious, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
The badass part is like the AI game will recognize
when you're in like in thebattle against another gang,
like it gets too crazy, and thensuddenly AI summons Batman to
stop it.
So now it's Batman.
SPEAKER_03 (15:36):
And you're trying to get away?
SPEAKER_01 (15:37):
And then Batman tries to look for you.
SPEAKER_03 (15:39):
You're trying to do a gang war, but you gotta keep
the gang war like below the copsrater, because if the cops find
out, then the night light goesup.
And when that you're there, hegoes, that's your that's that's
that's mean you're like in UTA,you're like the stars, the
wanted stars.
It's a night light, cheesenightlights, three night lights.
SPEAKER_02 (15:56):
The first night is Robin.
The second one is like, I don'tknow, Nightwing.
And the next one is like, ohshit, you fucked up.
It's Batman, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (16:02):
Oh shit.
And they even put the duh, duh,duh.
SPEAKER_03 (16:08):
Nah, yeah, that would be like this game is
getting.
I want to play this fuckinggame, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (16:12):
I think it'd be cool because like it'd be like, you
know, like be like true uh truemobster mentality, it'd be like,
I could fight him, right?
You can stay to leave, likechoose to leave or choose to
stay.
But even if you stay, you alwayslose because it's Batman.
Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_01 (16:27):
It's like 10 cards, right?
And all they just pulled outtheir eight case, right?
Yeah.
It's not I'm not talking aboutBatman flies in like Spider-Man.
He comes in with his fucking.
Oh shit.
Oh, he flies in with the badplane.
Start shutting everything down,dude, doo doo.
That would be wild.
SPEAKER_03 (16:41):
And then and then those decisions you make affect
it.
Because if you left, you madeit.
But the henchmen that stayed,some of them remember that you
left them behind.
Oh.
And if you stay, if you stay,you gain some of the respect,
but then you gotta go to BellReeve and start over with lower
resources.
Right, you gotta put time in.
SPEAKER_02 (16:56):
You know what I'm saying?
You know, you gotta make movesbeside the pin.
That would be, dude.
I think it'd be cool.
Like, even the game could giveyou the false hope, like, you're
gonna win, even if you're aboutto pin him in.
That's when he like, he's like,oh, so close, boys.
And then all of his droids andshit come in, and you're like,
fuck, we almost had him.
SPEAKER_03 (17:14):
And then that's when you have to go to Arkham.
Let's not forget about the DLC,the Arkham Asylum level, bro.
There's a riot in Arkham Asylum,and you think you could get out,
but bum!
SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
That'd be crazy, bro.
Like you grow, you develop acrew in Arkham Asylum trying to
escape, and you find the cry toexit.
This is a sequel here.
The Joker's crew, bro.
And at the very end, like youfinally got to the exit of the
island of Arkham Asylum, andit's either jump or Batman
chases you, bro.
So it's like a decision to do,you know.
I'm saying for the third game,so you don't know what the hell
(17:48):
is that.
SPEAKER_03 (17:48):
I'm about to say, look, the first game in that
second game, though.
In that second game where you'restuck in Arkham, it's not even a
Batman game.
Like Batman doesn't even getpromoted.
We like officially say Batman'snot gonna be in the game.
Oh, that ending.
Batman shuts you down.
Let's go!
SPEAKER_02 (18:03):
Bro, that'd be sick.
Okay, so the first game is usebottom henchmen working your way
up, right?
You end like like Scarface atthe top of the world, right?
And then that's when you havelike Batman shuts you down.
Big Bass Batman shuts you downin the major fight.
SPEAKER_03 (18:14):
You end up in Arkham.
SPEAKER_02 (18:14):
Like I said, you almost think you're about to
win.
Like everything is coming out.
You're like, yes, it's gonnawork, it's gonna work.
Ooh, so close.
Batman.
Game ends, right?
You're in prison.
Game two starts, you go throughall of Arkham, right?
And then Batman.
No, no, no.
It's just it's just grindingthrough prison and just doing
things.
SPEAKER_01 (18:28):
Develop a crew fighting, uh Makey Moose trying
to maintain your crew outsidewhatever.
SPEAKER_02 (18:34):
Working with care.
SPEAKER_03 (18:35):
All of it, all of it.
Kroc is in the sewers.
Yeah.
There's something in the sewersthat you need.
So you got a whole level in thesewers where you're like
stealthy.
SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
Oh, you try to recruit either Bay or recruit
either Croc to your crew?
Look, look, then you can make itlook now you got turf wars.
SPEAKER_02 (18:49):
Look, now you got turf wars.
Depending on your alliances,depends on how your turf works.
SPEAKER_03 (18:54):
Because croc is the lower levels.
Killer crooks got all the lowerunderground levels, and then I
don't know, Bane's got all theother levels.
SPEAKER_02 (19:00):
So in those areas, you could roam freely, and the
other ones you got a stealth andshit.
SPEAKER_01 (19:03):
You can only pick one, but the whole point is like
you either have either one bigally, Clayface, Bane, or Croc.
SPEAKER_02 (19:09):
Oh, we're gonna throw Clayface in the bank.
That'd be sick as fuck.
SPEAKER_01 (19:15):
Then you each have these special abilities, like
Clayface can add extra 10soldiers.
SPEAKER_03 (19:19):
And is it all the same type it's all the same type
of gameplay, so it's all firstPOB horror type stuff.
Okay, so what's the third game?
SPEAKER_02 (19:26):
The third game is what?
So and now it's Arkham City?
SPEAKER_03 (19:31):
We put a lot of creative stuff down, man.
You gotta give us time.
We hit a wall on that one.
Like we can't, we're gonna havelike two.
20 years later, we're stillpromoting it.
The ending of the second game.
Nobody nobody expected Batman toshow up, but he did, you know?
SPEAKER_01 (19:54):
And like your character falls off the cliff,
jumpy, but you don't know whathappened, you know?
SPEAKER_02 (19:57):
So that's how the series ends.
SPEAKER_01 (19:59):
Well, we just didn't do a party three.
SPEAKER_02 (20:01):
No, look, and then you release PC versions of them.
The only 12 people actuallyplay.
The remaster version of it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
Over and over again.
SPEAKER_02 (20:08):
And then if you if you do all the up, right, down,
left, right, cut, everybody hastheories.
Get all the mystery riddles, allthat shit, you know what I'm
saying?
SPEAKER_01 (20:14):
You can go to the cons promoted, like if we're
gonna like here, we have aspecial announcer for the new
Batman game.
And then it's like, oh shit, thethird part's.
The remaster for Nintendo Trash!
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
Let's go!
unknown (20:27):
Fuck you!
SPEAKER_02 (20:28):
Because it's so real.
That is the shit that they do.
SPEAKER_03 (20:32):
Tell me you want to play Batman on the Nintendo.
You put Gotham Chronicles on theSwitch.
On the go?
You could play Switch on the gowith motion controls.
One and two.
SPEAKER_01 (20:42):
And then the year after that, we finally put all
the money together.
We're like, hey guys.
SPEAKER_03 (20:46):
I think we can finally like finish the story.
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
And we're gonna go ahead first start with the VR
rematch.
SPEAKER_03 (20:52):
We're gonna reintroduce the first game of
VRB.
But tell me you would haveplayed out in VR though.
V R P O V Batman hunting youdown.
I'm sweating.
SPEAKER_02 (21:00):
Look, at this point, the whole motion capture suits
exist.
So now you got a whole room thatyou can run around in.
You know?
You feel like you're gettingtaken by Batman.
SPEAKER_03 (21:07):
We're gonna get jokes.
We're gonna get jokes.
GTA 6 came out before GothamChronicles 3.
SPEAKER_02 (21:15):
Bro, why is it so real though?
Full AI came out before GC3.
They're doing it right now, bro.
unknown (21:22):
Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
I'm gonna play this game so bad right now, bro.
How do I Chat GPT 5?
Make a game like this.
Use the nemesis back in if youhave to.
SPEAKER_02 (21:34):
Use this audio file.
Let me know how it works.
SPEAKER_01 (21:37):
Hey, what if I upload this transcript into
ChatGPT?
That's what I'm saying, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (21:41):
Hey, ChatGPT, take it this transcript, improve it,
and make it for ChatGPT.
Ask me any clarifying questionsyou may have.
SPEAKER_03 (21:49):
That was good, man.
I I couldn't even get started onthat.
We'll come back to you on thestory for the third one.
Uh a future episode.
Look out for GC3 coming toGotham City 3.
Gotham Chronicles.
Gotham Chronicles, sorry.
Or what's that name we agreewith?
SPEAKER_01 (22:05):
Part three, we have to expand beyond the Gotham
verse.
Like we have to do some suicideshit.
SPEAKER_03 (22:09):
Oh.
Okay.
Okay.
Here we go.
SPEAKER_00 (22:13):
Here we go.
SPEAKER_03 (22:14):
Are we going to Metropolis boy?
So you were you were trapped inour game.
You jumped off.
Okay.
Batman is still trying to findyou.
Yes.
But he doesn't find you.
Wallace finds you.
Yes, I thought the Waller findsyou.
The jumper comes in.
You know, commandos drop off,they pick you up, and you see
you fly away, and then you see asign.
(22:35):
They'll reave.
That's where it's at.
SPEAKER_01 (22:38):
Yeah, yes.
She wants you because throughgame one and two, she loves the
fact you can recruit people inyour organization.
In the first one, you did it tobecome a criminal.
The second one you did it toescape Gotham.
And so in part three, it's yourjob to recruit the suicide
squad.
SPEAKER_02 (22:54):
Yeah.
You know what'd be cool if youhad to go to different cities.
You have to go to Metropolis?
Yes.
You gotta go to where's theflash from?
Central City.
Central City?
And then you still gotta go backto Gotham and then one more.
Amazon Amazon City or Amazonia.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (23:04):
So we have to introduce Quick Travel.
SPEAKER_03 (23:07):
Yeah.
Man, that would be interesting.
Okay, so you start in well, youstart in prison again, and then
you gotta recruit some of theinmates that are already in
prison.
SPEAKER_01 (23:16):
Which is the demo.
But you're at the top of theprison now, though.
No, this is the demo part.
You know how in the game, likeyou have like a demo map?
SPEAKER_02 (23:21):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (23:22):
And so there's the prison's a demo map.
So explain you like the story,yeah.
How did the controls are?
Yeah, asking people questionsand shit like that.
SPEAKER_03 (23:33):
Some of the cell, you know, because uh at night
you're gonna be hunted down byuh by the by but by competition,
you know you're about to gethit.
SPEAKER_02 (23:39):
Right.
So the boys tell you, hey, youget to make sure you get out of
the cell tonight beforemidnight.
SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
And there's no Batman in this game, alright?
Because I'll tell you who's thereal villain, because the whole
point of the game ends up theclimatic, like war style of
Avengers game.
It's the Court of Owls.
So, like, whatever you build,you know, you're gonna be
fighting the same shit versuswhich is the Court of Vows
organization.
SPEAKER_00 (24:02):
I like that.
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
So what's hunting you is the court of owls at the
same time.
So all this creepy shit, youryour crew starts disappearing,
and you know.
SPEAKER_03 (24:11):
I mean, is there is there a connection?
Is there a connection throughCourt of Vows?
Like somehow you come to likeyou come from an old Gotham
bloodline where you were likeyou come from a rich family, but
you lost everything, and that'show you had to start as an edge
man.
SPEAKER_01 (24:24):
Which ties back one or why you're so good at Bro,
this feels like Assassin'sCreed.
SPEAKER_02 (24:29):
I feel like Assassin's Creed right now.
We're like, bro, we're gonna goback six generations to what he
was the Don.
SPEAKER_03 (24:34):
Yeah, you find out you find out that when Gotham
was found that you had thefating fathers, you had the
Wings and you have his parents,or his great-great-great.
What are we gonna call him?
What are we gonna call him?
Is a character created.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:48):
The audience selects games.
SPEAKER_02 (24:50):
Motherfucker.
Okay, I'm listening.
That's fine.
In 1876, it was the Wains versusthe motherfuckers.
Yes.
I love that, bro.
And look, somehow along theline, you lost your dynasty.
Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:04):
Yeah, you lost it all.
You had you you didn't even knowyou were you were from the one
of the Gotham's foundingfamilies.
And the Cordog was trying tohunt you down because they had
their own internal struggle andthey're looking for the next
leader, and you are the only onewith that bloodline.
SPEAKER_01 (25:19):
Damn.
SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
Yeah, that was a great politics.
SPEAKER_01 (25:22):
Yes.
Oh, so who's who's fighting youis the other families.
So you don't take control.
Because they think that whatthey think you're building an
army to fight them, but inreality, is uh is Wallace's
organization that you arehandling.
So in the miscommunication, buthe says, fuck that.
You know, oh, I guess that'spart of the game.
(25:43):
You get to decide if you want tobe working for Wallace, create
your own our organization.
SPEAKER_03 (25:48):
Or you want to you're gonna take over Cardival.
Or take that's a great fuckingchoice.
SPEAKER_01 (25:52):
That's part of the game.
That's part three.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
Or look, the the gray route, fuck them both.
You start your own shit.
Damn, that'd be wild.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (25:59):
That's the hidden route.
SPEAKER_02 (26:00):
There you go.
That's the 50-50.
If you manage to get the gameexactly at 50% good, 50% evil.
SPEAKER_01 (26:04):
So who would you pick?
Like towards the end.
So what would you hit yourcharacter go lean towards you?
Where does it end for you?
Where does the character end?
SPEAKER_02 (26:10):
Oh man.
We're gonna have 97 differentendings for this game, guys.
So yeah, we never lose.
SPEAKER_03 (26:15):
We're gonna have a lot of different endings.
But if you hit all the rightmarks, talk to all the right
people.
SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
Like it like it's just like that.
After three games, you get shutdown again.
Like, like you win, like you'rein the chair, you're celebrating
the big party, then the lightstarted flicker, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
Yes, the light started flickering.
It's all POV.
SPEAKER_03 (26:47):
You screw with the radio, it's here.
unknown (26:52):
Damn.
SPEAKER_03 (26:54):
No, no, but you get the game mechanics from the
first one.
So you get the radar coming upon your wrist.
Oh, your henchman, you see, it'sa flashback to the very first
game.
SPEAKER_02 (27:04):
Damn.
The game cuts to the originalfucking you're trying to run
through the house or some shitlike that.
SPEAKER_03 (27:09):
It's a flashback of you trying to run through the
house.
SPEAKER_02 (27:11):
No, that'd be insane.
And then it cuts back.
SPEAKER_01 (27:16):
All over again.
SPEAKER_03 (27:17):
If you haven't played game one yet, okay, how
about this?
During the dialogue, the finalscene dialogue, one of the guys
goes like, wait, I know thismansion.
And it's the mansion that youfirst try to steal out of in the
game.
SPEAKER_02 (27:29):
Oh shit.
So that was really cool.
I got excited on that one dog.
That was a realization.
I was like, it's the first one.
SPEAKER_01 (27:39):
Yeah, well, you started as a petty criminal,
right?
Yeah, you didn't even realize,yeah.
It was like a Wayne InstitutionMuseum.
Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_03 (27:48):
So the cord of house took it over somehow, but then
all of a sudden you realizebecause you look at the map and
it was like, it's the same map.
That's gangster.
Damn.
I played that.
SPEAKER_02 (27:57):
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Bro, were we supposed to talkabout something else this
episode?
SPEAKER_01 (28:03):
Damn, man.
SPEAKER_02 (28:04):
We just pitched the craziest best Bad Bang game.
SPEAKER_01 (28:07):
I can't wait to put this in the chat GPT and see
what it gives, man.
Never made.
SPEAKER_03 (28:11):
Jesus.
Is it three parts?
It's bro, it's a whole threegames.
We just did 20 decades of games.
Multiple remasters.
A VR version! A Nintendo Switchversion.
Eight years of teasing partthree.
Well, they came out with a TCGfor it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:32):
I love it, man.
I love it.
But yeah, no, I don't I don'tthink we have time for anything
else on this one, guys.
SPEAKER_03 (28:37):
This is a great mastery of We were talking about
Peacemaker, and the one thing Igotta talk about Peacemaker,
what real quick, real quick.
Okay, what the fuck was up withthat?
What the fuck was up with thatorgy?
SPEAKER_01 (28:53):
Best orgy scene ever.
Came out of fucking nowhere.
SPEAKER_03 (28:56):
That's why y'all.
Like my man takes a hit, uh, abunk hit for emergency purposes
only.
The fucking uh lines of cokecomes back up and make it people
everywhere, bro.
I thought Herogasm was bad.
This was way more crazy thanHerogasm.
SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
I'm telling them titties everywhere.
SPEAKER_03 (29:17):
And I don't get it.
Like, how do you how is he like,bro?
SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
This is HBO was like, here's a budget.
SPEAKER_03 (29:23):
This is required for the storyline.
This is pivotal to the plot.
This is pivotal to the plot.
Every set of titties.
SPEAKER_01 (29:31):
They weren't just like just showing them, like
they were like doing things,bro.
It was like a softcore.
SPEAKER_02 (29:36):
Really?
See, look, that right there isalready gonna show me that James
Gunn's DCU is gonna be waydifferent.
SPEAKER_03 (29:43):
Which is like, okay, cool.
We got the the projects that arefor kids.
Superman, very kid friendlymovie.
But then we got the projectsthat are like, hey, this is This
is for adults.
This is for adults.
SPEAKER_01 (29:53):
You're saying Clayfix gonna be a horror movie.
That's true.
The amount of fucks that aredropping.
SPEAKER_03 (29:57):
Here's the thing DC has always had like Like a
darker side on like Marvel.
Because Marvel's done by Disney,nah.
But DC had a lot of like blacklabels.
Black labels were like thehorror labels.
SPEAKER_02 (30:09):
Yeah, he's not wrong.
Yeah, I remember more gruesomescenes that are gonna happen
that happen in DC.
SPEAKER_03 (30:13):
DC has all those like serious graphic novels like
Watchmen and others.
SPEAKER_02 (30:17):
Yeah, Watchmen, bro.
Yeah.
Some really like some prettyviolent ones.
Like if you think about theVietnam War scenes from Watchmen
kind of things like that thatended up in the graphic novels
and stuff.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:26):
So I'm glad I'm glad that he's not afraid to go with
some darker, mature story.
SPEAKER_02 (30:29):
But he has the option to.
SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
In this case, I wouldn't say darker is just an
orgy, but Peacemaker is verymuch not for kids.
If you guys haven't seen it, ifyou haven't seen it.
SPEAKER_01 (30:38):
You may not let the kids watch it.
SPEAKER_03 (30:40):
I like one of the characters kind of explained
this Well, Peacemaker has alwaysbeen a very free spirit type of
character.
SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
The one thing I saw that I thought was great in the
behind the scenes was that Janethat John Cena's never done
drugs.
He had to ask him how to do abong hit.
Did you know that?
Yeah.
Oh really?
He didn't know how to smokeweed, bro.
He had no idea.
SPEAKER_03 (30:55):
Because uh somebody said in the comments, it's like
John Cena's whole career hasdepended on him being like
maximum healthy, you know, himkeeping a healthy lifestyle for
the wrestling.
I mean, I'm sure you could getinto drugs and wrestling.
We know a lot of wrestlers did.
But he was one that alwaysstayed healthy.
SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
Yeah, he was a great like example to kids and stuff.
So I guess he never wanted toget on drugs.
He never did drugs, he neversmoked weed.
But it was so funny, bro.
SPEAKER_03 (31:16):
Like he's like, You can tell because he does the
bunk hit, and I was like, nah,he didn't do that.
Didn't he do that?
I was like, man, nah.
After watching that interview, Ilooked at it, I was like, oh
yeah, he doesn't know how to hitthat.
SPEAKER_02 (31:28):
Yeah, bro.
You but you buy it at first, buthe's like, I'm trying to make
this look legit.
SPEAKER_03 (31:31):
It's hilarious, man.
But uh, but yeah, but I'm reallyexcited for what Peacemaker
brings.
SPEAKER_02 (31:37):
Get ready for a season two Peacemaker.
It's gonna be amazing.
Get ready for the new Batmanseries that we got coming out.
SPEAKER_03 (31:43):
If you guys want to hit us at the Good for the game,
hit us at the GoFundMe.
SPEAKER_02 (31:48):
We'll get out to creators on stream on Steam, you
know, who make this shit.
We'll make it happen for youguys.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
Hey, Suki, what was your thoughts?
We're gonna do some unboxingscoming soon.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Uh, we're gonna do some Gundamcar game unboxings.
It's really hot right now.
In case you guys were able toget some product, so we're gonna
record some live coming out.
SPEAKER_01 (32:03):
To Bandai for sponsoring us.
SPEAKER_03 (32:05):
Shout out to Bandai.
Shout out Bandai.
Uh Bandai.
We love Gundam.
I got a full case of Gundamsover here.
I got some more Gundams.
Well, no, those are white.
Thank you for showing us somelove.
These guys are Gundams overhere.
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
The guy, the CEO, is a big fan.
A shout out to Gundam overthere.
Don't even start.
I'm about to say.
Try homie.
SPEAKER_02 (32:23):
All right, guys.
You know, I do want to giveSuki's sake.
What did you think about thevideo game, Suki?
Oh no.
There's our time.
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
This has been the WBM Podcast.
This is one of your hosts.
It's your boy Merc.
Please make sure you guys aretuning in and following us on
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Podcasts, Amazon Podcast,iHeartRadio, all that jazz.
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Big shout out.
Hey, shout out to them.
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One, you can text the show.
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