April 21, 2025 • 35 mins
The Netflix adaptation of Devil May Cry! The iconic action game series that redefined demon slaying with style. Remember those epic music drops when Limp Bizkit or Evanescence kicked in just as you unleashed Dante's Devil Trigger? . Johnny Yong Bosch's performance as Dante captures the perfect energy—cocky, skilled, and just the right amount of over-the-top.
Our conversation expands beyond Devil May Cry to explore recent anime releases that tackle artificial intelligence and consciousness. Netflix Pluto stands out with its profound examination of what happens when we create AI that's "too human."
Whether you're a longtime Devil May Cry fan, an anime enthusiast, or simply curious about thoughtful sci-fi concepts, this episode offers something to sink your teeth into. .
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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week?
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That's right, y'all.
We're back to our regular hours, our regular suitcase for now,
because we're going to betesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's right.
We got some fun things comingup for you on this episode.
That's right, guys.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah we're going to talk about Devil May Cry.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Devil May Cry.
We're going to talk about aMinecraft movie.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Minecraft movie, some new, an All kinds of stuff
y'all but you guys listos,listas listos Listas listos
Listas listos Keep rolling,rolling, rolling, rolling,
rolling, Keep rolling rollingright all right, keep rolling,
(01:06):
rolling, rolling, rolling,rolling.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Keep rolling, rolling , rolling, rolling.
Hey rappers, I haven't heardthat song in like.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
To do my heavy metal voice.
I gotta like go down threeregisters.
He's gotta go down threeregisters.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I haven't heard that song in decades, bro.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I used to love that song.
I had a friend that stays at aneighborhood called Spring
Landing and love that song.
I had a friend that stays at aneighborhood called Springland.
Somehow that song and the nameof the neighborhood connected to
me Springland.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Landy Landy Landy Land, springland Landy Landy
Land.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And that's how I never forget where this guy
leaves Always.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
To this day.
To this day.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
To this day.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
In case I ever lose my phone.
I could always make my way touh.
But yeah, man, sorry, random,random anecdote, did you like it
?
I mean, obviously the op wasit's dope, it's dope.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh okay, I thought it was crazy whenever that op came
up, because I had no idea thatwas gonna be the op yeah, I
thought that was me openingcredits come up when you hear uh
, I like I was like Damn.
What a throwback To the fucking.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Early aughts or 90s.
Was it Limp Bizkit?
Yeah, it was Limp Bizkit,that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The fact that that was even, like I'm thinking, 90s
right.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, it had to.
Be late 90s 99, 98.
Yeah, exactly Like right there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
On the cusp.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You know what I'm saying Of the a.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I think that was one of the greatest things on Devil
May Cry, the fucking music drops.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, man, all kinds of Rage Against the Machines,
All kinds of great rock musicbro.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Evanescence came back .
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Evanescence came back with a new original song just
for the series, just for that.
That's pretty dope.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I never played the game.
You guys ever play the game.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah bro, I played all the way up to Devil May Cry
3.
I think I even played 4.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Afterlife.
That's the song by Evan Ness.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Because the first game is like, you fight the
devil himself at the very end,right yeah, at the very first
game.
That's why Devil May Cry,because he cries or some shit,
or why is it called Devil MayCry?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Honestly, I couldn't even tell you what the Devil May
Cry aspect of it is.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I think that's just Japanese games.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Sometimes just have name why is final fantasy called
final fantasy?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
it's never the final fantasy resident evil is
actually called biohazardo.
Oh, biohazardo yeah and theamerican market decided to
switch it to resident evilpokemon monsters.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, we just pokemon stands for pokemon monsters,
pokemon time.
It's crazy, but uh, yeah, no,the first one.
So he has to fight the devil.
The second one, I want to sayhe has to fight his brother,
virgil and like I think it's notthe third one, that's the third
one, but the second one againis well, the the whole point
could be wrong.
Well, fact, check us in thecomments.
(03:40):
What I love is, uh, the wholeconcept and devil may cry is all
the weapons that you, that youacquire throughout the game.
That's the like in my mind.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That was always the cool shit about it some of the
weapons were like from theactual monsters.
They can pick up from themabsolutely, yeah, or like part
of them or something like thatthey get converted into a weapon
oh, is that how it goes in theanime too?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
bless you well, I mean the anime centers around
this mcguffin.
The mcguffin happens to be asword oh yeah the sword of
Sparta right and he has to likeconnect multiple parts to make
the sword work.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know typical MacGuffin he'll pick up like the
villain, will have like a swordvillain will have a sword, so
he'll have that piece.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
He'll have that piece .
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There goes the Gundam of the week and then here's the
sword, and then he's like, okay, I need the other pieces now.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
He's rolling rolling rolling.
That was our Gundam of the week, arthur Gundam, mach 3.
With Excalibur, everybody askit, but anyways, yeah, I know
that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, he has his main sword right.
The sword of Sparta is his mainsword.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Is that what it's called?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Really oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And he's also like a devil or something right.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, he's like he's part demon, Did he?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
transform in the first game as well.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, he gets like a demon demonic transformation.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I was curious how they were going to do that His
devil trigger.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, his devil trigger.
Is that what they call it?
Yeah, because, like yourspecial, basically maxes out at
that point.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's time.
Yeah, that happens.
It's badass, I was curious.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
They put him in a certain situation of stress.
So he starts amping up, Hiseyes start getting red.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's really what happens in the game.
When you're about to die or youjust want to tear some shit up.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You're like all right , let's go.
I was never really into thegames, but I played them a
little bit at my friend's house.
My friend had it, so that's howI was able to play and that's
how I know some of the mechanics, but I was never into.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I never bought one myself I want to say I got into
them during the second one andmade me go back and play the
first one.
Then I played the third one andthen, years later I don't even
know if it was technicallycalled devil may cry 4, if it
was just called devil may crybut then there was like two
versions of dante there was aspin-off that was like dmc yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
What was that?
It was like a dante.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
He was like young, like that's the part, because I
didn't finish that one, so Ireally don't know, because
there's still virgil.
There's a young dante, an olderdante, but he's not dante.
It's another guy that looksexactly like dante and acts just
like he does weird.
Uh, let us know in the comments.
I mean as long as they keep thefranchise going oh yeah, the
weapons again.
The battles were sick as fuckdog like devil may cry.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
5.
The last one was supposed to belike really sick.
Yeah, I didn't play it again.
Didn't play that one either.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The graphics looked really it looked insane again
after watching the anime.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I think I'm gonna go back and play it, because right
now you could get it for likestreaming on streaming service
oh yeah, bro.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
One of my favorites was like they had like I want to
say they were shotgun like uh,nunchucks, oh cool.
They were shotgun Like he'llget nunchucks eventually and
they're like Cerberus, and theywere like fire and ice.
So you had fire and ice attacks.
Marvel vs Capcom 3 actually dida really good variation of this
, like yeah, bro, because Dantewasn't that one.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He was in that one.
It was Capcom.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Capcom had that shit out and he had sick ass fucking
babies.
I do remember watching peopleplay where you could take on
just like your mom, 20 demons atthe same time, but he would
combo his way.
Suddenly he has wings and growsa gun.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yes, yeah, it was a slash him up and he could
basically be upgraded throughoutthe fight.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Absolutely.
So what was really cool?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
fun fact who in the fight?
Kratos or Dante?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I was about to go down that rabbit hole with you
in just a second, because theyactually are very similar in
that aspect and they're bothbasically gods in their own way,
so I'm down to have thatconversation.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Let's go Keep rolling , rolling, rolling, before you
go on that tangent.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Fun fact Devil May Cry I want to say four or five,
I want to say it may have beenfive is one of the games that
you can do it and yeah, it haslike a beatable level one game
that you can beat the whole gameat level one and some guy
fucking of course you're upagainst the boss at the final
(07:33):
yeah, and like, if you gothrough the normal storyline,
the boss of course defeats youand you lose all your abilities
and, just like classic god ofwar, you end up at the bottom
and you have to work your wayback up.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I love that I love those games.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
There is a way to actually beat the boss, some guy
figured it out and then thefucking credit rolls and
basically at the very end thedevelopers are like
congratulations, you beat thegame dick, basically but yeah,
that's a fun fact for you.
That's a classic player one,but who wins, bro?
Why?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
would you say they're so similar far as them
themselves are different, butdefeating enemies, taking a part
of them to then turn intoweapons later on and then end up
coming up with crazy, sick asscombos.
Yeah those are like the mastersof it, bro the god of war one
and two like had the same likeyou will go through maps and
there's monsters there you'dlike fight like all kinds of
different monsters like at thesame time.
(08:17):
They're a giant monster, smallmonster, but you can combo the
monsters like throw some of themat the big ones and shit hell
yeah, bro, you could grab thepeople and shit, do it
absolutely but yeah it was coolbecause remember I think it was
in god of war 3 it's when youkill hercules, you get his
fucking, his gauntlet that'stight.
Yeah, you killed poseidon, yougot his, you killed haiti you
got his shit like everybody gotI always love those games where
(08:38):
you can like take your enemy'sweapons and stuff and like use
it against them.
Yeah, that's yeah, dope as shit, and then even hermes.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You take his boots, you cut off his legs.
Remember, there's that one likeoh, that's right these cradles
no yeah, no, he's like I don'tgive a fuck.
He grabs it.
He already cut off one leg, bro, and then he picks him up by
the next one and slashes thatbitch, I remember that.
Yeah, bro it was graphic ps2graphics no good graphics.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
God of war was one of my things.
I don't know.
I don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I got to work with speak dog.
There was one part after you,whenever you beat his dad, uh
Zeus, the fucking video gamescreen gets bloody red and it's
and like the game doesn't tellyou to stop.
Eventually, you just realize acouple of games have that.
You just have to stop hittinghim.
And then eventually, like theblood starts to fade and you
start to see the damage thatyou've done, but like they're
motherfuckers.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
click, click and you hear the mash.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, it's fucking wild, oh man anyway one thing I
thought was good about theboomer crying in the anime.
I don't know if that's how theyexplain it in the games, but
the demons hell is a differentdimension.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yes, it's like the upside down, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, I forgot what they called it.
They have an actual name for it.
Yeah, don't give me this again.
It's been.
But one of the scientists inthe anime explains it.
It's like their knowledge ofquantum mechanics is far
advanced, more than us, andbecause they use quantum
mechanics to get between theworld, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And Because, basically, if I'm not mistaken,
ultimately the quest is alwaystrying to open up the gateway to
Earth, right, because they'rein hell wherever they're at.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Because hell is like toxic.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right and they're like I'm sick of being here.
It's basically hell.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, but like.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Dante.
If I'm not mistaken, danteloves it.
He's like fuck it.
This is cool, I'm fucking shitup.
He's like I just live.
It is.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It goes between worlds, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
but Virgil's pissed.
He's like I don't want to befucking here anymore, I refuse
to be stuck in this fuckingworld anymore, and that's what
he's constantly trying to getover to Earth and unleash hell
on Earth, kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, but he's definitelylike the superior one.
He's got a dope-ass sword.
Does he still have the samuraisword?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
He appeared briefly.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Virgil or Virgil yeah , very brief.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Okay, he's supposed to be kind of like a teaser for
I think.
So yeah, well, spoiler, spoilerfor you.
He gets.
He has a samurai sword.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
That's what makes him so much cooler than fucking don
, I see I see one where like,like, like his abilities, that
you charge them and then like,yeah, so fast that light it cut
like a million enemies and stuff.
Yeah, it's literally that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
So it's like where dante is like uh, you know he's
got the old school like knightstyle sword or whatever.
You know he's got a samurai, sohe's got the old school like
knight style sword or whateveryou know he's got a samurai
sword.
Yeah, he's got a swift-asssamurai sword, and he's just as
vicious with it, though.
Bro, it's cool as fuck.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I did like that in the Iron man, like it doesn't
take any time for any.
Like real world building.
Like this is Dante, there'sdemons and since there's demons,
exo facto on Hunter.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, demon Hunter, that's true Straight to it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And that's all you need to know.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Rolling rolling, rolling, rolling.
Yeah, keep.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'm sorry Cue in some what else is in the soundtrack.
Cue the music Butterfly byCrazy Town, Gorilla Radio by
Rage Against the Machine.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Come my lady.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Come, come, my lady Green Day.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Damn Green Day.
Jesus, what'd they playAmerican Idiot.
Really that's hilarious man.
They did some American shit onthe soundtrack.
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
That reminds me of, like what was the name of that
game?
Where, like, the guy will walkin with the shotgun and start
blowing demons and shit.
They had like a remake recently, like in the last five years.
God Doom the Doom guy.
Oh yeah, the doom guy.
Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, yeahthat one, because like the doom,
is the same concept.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, they go to another, like hell's a dimension
, another dimension.
Yeah, it's another world.
It's not necessarily like, it'snot necessarily, it's not
necessarily based on religion itjust happens to be like well,
those are things we fear, so wemake hell out of that place you
know, but it's like a real,tangible place in a place with
like real monsters that's reallycool, yeah, because, like in
Dante's demon world or whatever,there's like things growing all
(12:23):
throughout like the city it'sstill the city that's there, but
there's like all kinds of shitthat's growing on top of it.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
That look, you know, like the upside down, like
Vainy's, you know shit that'sgrowing all over it and it looks
very demonic and it's dark andit's all fucked up.
But that's what it's supposedto be.
It's supposed to be just amirror of our world, kind of
thing.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I think they did a little difference in the anime.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Bless you.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I do like that.
It's by an American producer,the original audio for this.
It's not an anime, but I guessit's called an anime.
But it's by the Americanproducers, by an American studio
.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Oh, it's Avatar the Last Airbender.
Yeah, okay, it's in the vein ofanime.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It's part of the bootleg trilogy bootleg universe
that would include Castlevania.
It's by the same maker.
Yeah, it's bootleg studiobecause obviously Castlevania
and Devil May Cry are not in thesame universe, but I think they
both Capcom though.
They both Capcom and he calledit the bootleg multiverse.
Oh shit.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's how the Capcom was like yeah, bro, you can use
these.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
That is pretty live and.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Dante is played by Johnny Youngbush.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Oh, I love him bro.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He is fucking awesome , bro.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He brings such a good energy to Dante.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
He does such a great job.
I fucking love Dante.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I think of Bash's Stampede.
That's what kind of makes methink of early age shit.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
There's one sequence whenever they're falling out of
an airplane and they drop 15hostages out of the airplane,
it's like don't you wish youwere a millionaire with an armor
set right now?
Oh, classic, fucking Iron man 2reference.
I love that shit bro.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I love that sequence but that shit was badass.
That is pretty fucking cool man.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
He's trying to figure out how to save everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely Does he do some Iron
man shit?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
At first he did something really cool he started
grabbing parachutes.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's right Started putting people on parachutes.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's smart.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Eventually he has to get his devil trigger formed.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
He had the XP charged up enough.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It makes sense, yeah, trigger for him.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
He had the XP charged up enough it makes sense yeah.
He had to get enough parachutesto get the XP.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
There's a fucking music for Devil Trigger, which
is our original song.
It hits the Devil Trigger songand music drop.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Wake me up, wake me up.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wake me up.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Wake me up.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Really dope anime.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Do they drop that song?
Hot Topic ass anime.
Hot Topic ass anime.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Did they drop that song?
Hot Topic-ass anime.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Hot Topic-ass anime.
I miss Hot Topic.
It used to be like that Earlyon it's Hot.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Topic.
I don't think it's Hot Topic.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Flashback Hot Topic.
Hot Topic of the day bro.
When everybody used to benervous to walk into Hot Topic.
So that was a great anime, whatno uh?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
so that was a great anime.
What would you get that shirt?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
hot topic, yeah, yeah what about, uh, what'd you say?
The first episode, bro?
Would you give it a, is it?
How is like the first half,that's out, what's out right now
eight episodes is the whole,thing, oh shit it's pretty cool
I finished it yeah, you benchedit, so what would you say right
now?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I watched it on my flight to miami Damn oh okay,
miami loco, bok, bok, bok, bokbok bok.
I really enjoyed it, man.
I mean as far as plot.
I mean it was your typicalMacGuffin, everybody was chasing
the MacGuffin.
But I like the way he broughtcharacters from the video game.
He brought Lady from the videogame oh, that's dope man Her
(15:32):
name's Maria, but he keepscalling her Lady.
She was in devil may cry 3,right yeah I think she's a main
character in devil may cry 4.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
She is good sir but she's like the third main
character.
Oh, besides the, villain anddante.
She's the third main characterI wonder like which variation of
dante they're basing this off.
Is it like devil may cry 1?
Is it like a combination ofthree?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I don't know.
They're putting in because oflady.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I think it's a combination of three and four.
Oh cool Because Lady plays abig part In three and four.
That's my guess.
Cool.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
No, but it's a good anime.
I mean it's not anime, but Ienjoy watching it.
It was fun.
I mean I went in with zeroexpectations Because I never
played the game so I don't knowwhat to expect, but I did win.
I hate this guy Just slashingdemons.
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, demon shit, that's cool.
Yeah, I'm a good time, okay,okay, so.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I don't know, don't think about it, morty.
Don't think about it, morty,just go and enjoy the ride solid
8, maybe 8 and a half 7 and ahalf 8, I'm there yeah, cause I
did enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I enjoyed it more than Castlevania, I'll give you
that which one?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
the first one.
Did you watch the OG one?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
The first one I didn't watch Nocturne, which was
Nocturne the Castlevania sequelafter the time skip.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
No, that one's, that one's, that one's.
Anyway, invisible, invisible isbetter.
I think I can say Invisible isway better.
Yeah, hands down, did youfinish Invincible.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I have not finished.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Invincible.
Stay was way better.
Yeah, hands down, did youfinish?
Invincible I have not finishedneither of us.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Stay tuned for that one.
You can review it yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I mean I saw, I saw daredevil.
It was fun.
It's a.
I went with no expectations, soI had fun wait, daredevil or
invincible they're both, I sawboth oh, you finished the both
well yeah, I
Speaker 2 (17:09):
finished invisible devil might cry right they'll
make crowds oh, I'm about to sayI was like whoa, oh no, I
haven't seen their devil no bro,sorry tell me about the devil.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I'm Catholic.
I got to go to church tomorrowoh Jesus, pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, bro, alright.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
DHD, I was going to say the other stuff that came
out.
Man was Lazarus, the guy whocreated Cowboy Bebop.
I wanted to see that it cameout already, the one that was
remember it was.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
The whole thing was out.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Not the whole thing, just episode one is out right
now.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Give me some time.
Give me some time, bro.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
we can still give our two.
I want to give my two cents onit.
It's cool.
It's just the trailer,basically.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wait, did you watch the first episode?
Yeah, okay, do you get the samefeeling?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yes, honestly, I feel like it's a little much.
I feel like it's trying toimitate.
I don't know if I'm just hatingon it right now because it's
still early.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Let me guess Woolongs .
No, no, woolongs.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's cool, it is officially the same universe as
Cowboy Bebop.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's very eye-opening .
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Oh, it doesn't have that.
Is it the music?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's very similar as far as even the music that's
there is no, no, it's, it's verysimilar, you know, as far as,
like even the music jazz poppy,you know you compare it.
You're like are you going therewith?
I think there's a, there's apart of me.
I'm like this isn't cowboybebop, but it's not supposed to
be cowboy?
bebop, they're not bound, youknow and that's what kind of I'm
like.
I like it, but I'm like becausehe's doing spike spiegel shit,
but he's not spike spiegel.
That's why I'm like spike doesthat?
(18:36):
Spike can get away with likesix guys shooting at him and
getting out of a prison and notgetting scraped you know, I'm
like who the fuck is this guy?
yeah, who the fuck is this guy?
He needed to be his owncharacter.
Yeah, and I'm like this andthat's and.
And somebody asked me like isthat spike?
And I'm like that's the spikein the cat, like, yeah, like if
that's what it is.
And then there's another person.
I'm like if this bitch is like,if she sells sex appeal later,
(18:57):
she's the fay valentine, okay.
And I'm like, and I'm seeingkind of like, okay, there's a
jet, jet.
I'm like, unfortunately,they've already given a black
character, like there's only one.
And I'm like, okay, well, thisis not.
They're trying to fill out whatfeels like cowboy bebop, but
with a slightly twist to it.
Again, first episode I'm likethis is cool, but I'm like it
made me want to watch cowboybebop.
How about that?
First episode?
(19:17):
I'm like this is cool, but I'mlike it made me want to watch
cowboy bebop.
How about that?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
first episode made me want to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That's a good thing, okay, so another one, not a
ridiculous thing to say so.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
To be hero x is another one.
That was one that goes fromlike 2d 3d animation where
homeboys like falling throughthe street and it's like you
guys haven't seen that one,where it's like badass bright
colors and it uses like 3Danimation, to 2D animation.
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'mnot aware of that one.
(19:49):
I guarantee you've seen thetrailer.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yes, it's on Netflix.
I think I've seen this one,brother it is Brother, brother.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay.
So it starts off with likeslight animation in the
beginning and then I've seen 3Danimation before.
I'm kind of man with it, butthen the one they introduced
they slid in the 2D was verycool.
And then there was a plus ultramoment at the very end that
went from 3D to 2D and I waslike, ooh, I like that, I'm
excited for this, and I was likefirst episode and there's a
plot twist, crazy fuckingcliffhanger.
(20:14):
I'm not going to tell you saywhat.
It is crazy to be hero x to behere is it on crunchyroll or
netflix.
Yeah, it's, uh, it's, it may be.
Oh, and another one I justchecked out brother is, or at
the center of the earth.
Okay, dog, that's.
That's voted right now becauseit's, it's like a crunchyroll,
uh, anime of the year.
Right, it's a really coolpremise.
It's right now like, uh, orit's imagine 1400 medieval times
(20:37):
what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
no, I mean it's not anime of the year for
Crunchyroll.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
No, no, it's nominated.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It is one of those.
He's in the panel, bro.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
What do you mean?
It's not nominated which one?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Orb at the center of the earth or something like that
.
It's up there with, with, withsolo.
It's like six of them, dogright.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, it's one of them.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It's up there with Freerun.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I swear to you, dog, that's why maybe even Because
it's down there on Freerun SoloLeveling Kaji no 8, delicious
Dungeon and-.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I did not see Delicious Dungeon on there.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's Delicious.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Dungeon.
Okay, well, anyway, it made melook at it, right.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
It was on somebody's fucking list.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Right, Don't argue with me about it, bro, fuck.
Let me talk about the anime.
It's a really cool fuckingpremise because it's like in the
medieval times where basicallyreligion is the whole thing.
Right, the world is at thecenter of the universe.
The universe revolves aroundearth, right?
If you speak anything that'sopposite of this, it's
blasphemous because it goesagainst religion.
God made earth special forhumans right.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's really what happened during the Crusades.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So now the fucking story is there's a guy who
fucking got banned.
He's all fucked up like it's areally they put people to death
for this shit, right?
this guy uh got banned for hisfucking teachings, but it's all
religion based, so he repentedfor his sins.
He met this genius kid and he'slike do you find this?
He's like show me how the worldworks, basically.
And he draws it and it's likeuh, I can't even like a
kaleidoscope kind of pattern,shit.
And he's like do you think thatthe way that this universe
(21:54):
works?
He's like do you think this isbeautiful?
He's like no, and it's a kid.
He's like fucking like 12,right.
And he's like this isn'tbeautiful.
He's like it's kind of, yeah,it kind of works in these
aspects, but no, I don't defineit as beautiful.
He's like what if I told youthat the universe didn't spin
around the earth, that the earthrotated around the sun?
And he breaks down what modernday shit is?
And he's like there's nofucking way.
Let me tell you three reasonswhy.
(22:15):
And then he breaks down.
He's like this shit doesn'twork and he's like but if it
does, he's like and it was likebro it was crazy it was just
like that dog and, um, it's awild ass concept, because then
the story just goes from there,because the kid actually ends up
he's like, well, what if he'sright?
Yeah, and now he's like we canbe put to death for this shit.
But now it's like imagine thosetimes during the era where a
motherfucker was like no bro,bro, we spin around the sun,
(22:37):
it's all connected, bro, we goin circles.
You'd have been like no fuckingway, there's no way, it's
impossible.
Kill this motherfucker.
That's witchcraft dog.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, I gotta watch that one.
I have not heard about that oneyet.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Go check it.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Bro, you got like some diamonds.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
For real man, you watch your shit.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I want to do a jump in the follow.
Okay, go for it.
Okay, all right.
So I got one called Pluto onNetflix, right?
I just saw it because I wasabout this famous mangaka guy.
Oh, yes, yes, they talked aboutit because he made one called
21st Century Boys, which I thinkI'll talk about it later, but I
think that shit is fuckingoverrated.
But he did one called Monsterby a serial killer.
That one was goaded.
And then this I was like damn,this is really fucking good.
(23:15):
But it pretty much is the entirearc of Astro Boy's story,
Pretty much about this robot whowanted to challenge the seven
robots, the strongest sevenrobots, and it was created by
this Saudi what do you call it?
Some Saudi Arabian princecalled Chitty, chitty Bang Bang
or something goofy in the AstroBoy comic.
Very silly, right?
So the same concept where thisrobot fights the seven robots
(23:37):
and one of them is Astro Boy.
So very silly, right?
So the same concept where, like, this robot fights several
robots and one of them is AstroBoy.
So the same thing.
Bar Bar Bar, the name of thesame robot named LeBlanc.
You know, atom, what have you?
Even the bad guy is Pluto.
So that's the name of the mangacalled Pluto, right, mhm.
So it's pretty much just aretelling of that arc, but now
it gets deeper.
So it folks with the idea of ai, because it had me thinking
like I never thought about itthis way.
But uh, pulling things out inperspective is pretty much what
(24:01):
would be the idea if we justfucked around too much and gave
chat gpt feelings.
We're like it comes down tothis, what comes down to the
point where, like it's,something happens, for example,
you interact with this chat gpt,right.
And to the point where, likeit's something happens, for
example, you interact with thischat gpt right.
And to the point where, like ithelps you, alleviates you well,
it helps you clear some kind oflike internal trauma and and
(24:21):
pretty much it becomes a friendto you, right, and uh, it it
reciprocates in a certain manner.
But because you program this ai,this is where we fucked up to
be so human, like whenever youtake it to a cafe it will
pretend to drink coffee, right,just so it can make you feel
human.
But the ai starts, cannotdistinguish between what is I'm
(24:45):
just playing a role and what isme, you know.
Because what happens if you,the ai, interacted with the I,
you, something happens to you,god forbid, and that person dies
, right?
So now the AI like a computeror your laptop.
Well, as us, we're thinkingwell, it's just my laptop, it's
not going to remember me.
But what if the AI was likedon't delete the memories I have
(25:06):
of my human, because it's theonly thing I have.
Now, what is the AI saying?
Hey, why do you care aboutthese memories?
Why do you not want this thingdeleted?
You know, like you have, youshould have no feelings.
You're a robot, right?
So?
So it plays with that memoriesa lot, that it comes to the
point where, like a because tothe idea of these ais, they
(25:26):
become like in any anime, becomeweapons.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
They become fucking missiles, right?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
absolutely typical anime and it comes to the point
where, like the computer is likeI'm killing my species.
It's like if you slap a phoneor a laptop, to me it's just a
phone or a laptop, but to thejad gpt it's.
It's kind, am I making sense?
So it starts fucking with theidea.
It's like you know, hey, allI'm doing is destroying my own
kind right for, for, for the,for the ideas of business.
(25:53):
And that's just one aspect,because they play so many roles
Like what is a perfect AI?
A perfect AI will be able tocheat, manipulate, even lie.
Would it be so perfect that itdoesn't even know itself?
It's AI, so shit like that.
It fucks with you, all of thisart of Astro Boy.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
When you put that spin into that concept, it's
freaking, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The feeling aspects for robots.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
yeah, At the end of the day, that would be the goal
of an AI engineer to make it sogood that it doesn't know it's
AI Like us.
What if we were AI?
Ideally, we were too advancedthat we wouldn't even know we
were AI and you know what.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
That's great because it touches that trauma.
Because it touches that traumawhere it doesn't't know.
So what if it becomes thistrauma where, like, it seeks
revenge to the point where like,hey, you know, I lost family
members, I lost this, I lostthat, yeah, and there, therefore
, because you made it so human,now it thinks like a human,
therefore, but its capabilitiesare that beyond of a human being
, is that making sense?
(26:48):
So, and of course, uh, thisstarts like a play drama, it
starts like a murder mystery,trying to figure out what's
going on, but overall it comes.
Power involves the entireplanet.
We're like, kind of like youknow, good old animation
fantasies if you don't stop thisrobot, the entire planet will
be consumed.
So it's up to astro boy to savethe day.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You did a great way of uh explaining how trauma was
uh like.
Remember you said that that hadto be like the chaos factor so.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
So that's if we have the time.
That's one of the things where,like, it becomes like what is
the perfect AI?
Right?
Where there's spoilers, where,like the scientists, the only
way I can make the perfect AI isif I can decipher all
personalities that ever existed.
But to do that, the AI willnever wake up because it's too
busy calculating.
So how do you make so?
That's the problem with theperfect AI it will never wake up
(27:32):
.
So how do you make?
So?
That's the problem with theperfect AI it will never wake up
.
So how do you wake up theperfect AI?
You install that trauma,something traumatic, a scar,
something that really makes itcan be love, it can be hate or
what have you, but that's theonly.
And then, from there, the AIhas selected a personality to
wake up.
Right, so stuff, but in that itplays a beautiful role.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
There's cool action, like you know.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's a good concept when he sold me on it, but that
one really fucked him because Iwas like what if we do fuck up?
Because the perfect way tohandle AI or computers would be
like Star Wars, like C-3PO yeah,c-3po's there like, oh, he's
cute, he goes like shut up.
C-3po right, and that's thefunny, because you know it's a
thing, but at the same time youkind of interact with it.
But if you fuck around too much, you become Blade Runner.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Now you can't distinguish the thing is, you
gotta put loss in them, yeahlike tears in the rain.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, like it doesn't know, like it's data.
So hey, like the computer forsome fucking reason is sad that
the data like tears in the rainwill disappear.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Even what you said, even the perfect AI would just
be like constantly going throughall these personalities,
because, at the end of the day,the perfect AI is just the
perfect search engine.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's just constantly googling over and over and over,
until you pick a trauma orsomething.
Oh yeah, oh, the fucked up SNLsketch it was the rock, it was
the SNL sketch, it was.
You know what I'm talking about.
No, bro.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It was the Rock.
It was an SNL sketch with theRock and they're at a billing
convention and all the SNL cats,oh, I got a freeze ray, I got a
shrink ray and the Rock comesout.
He's like well, I got a childmolesting rubber, God damn.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
What the fuck.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
What the fuck that's an snl skit.
Yeah, that's an snl skit.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Why does he want to do that?
It's like well, how do youcreate child molesters?
By trauma, really?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I gotta see that skit Bro, really, really.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Insert the clip Now.
Dark as hell skit, but yeah,it's called Pluto.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It's on Netflix.
That was my little take On thatone that really fucked with me.
You know, like damn we mightfuck, but the thing is that we
fucked up too much Because, like, we used these things To help
us, like to the point when, like, there was one scene where a
robot was dying but when it diedit played a song to its human
to let it know that, hey, ifthings are going to be okay but
(29:59):
there is no need for this robotto do that, it really with me,
you know, but it's a great takewhy, on its deathbed, is it
trying to comfort you?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
no, I mean, I like that.
That's what makes it more human, exactly yeah, that's what
that's the twist of.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
It's just a robot.
Yeah, it's good.
It's a good premise dog, yeah,pluto really.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Uh good, uh, ai like, uh like inspire anime like this
one called bb's fluorescenteyes.
Uh, that one.
It starts in the future where,like the ai, isn't that the
k-pop one you were talking about?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
that's the time traveling one oh yeah, right,
yeah time traveling hold up yeah, it's like the murder thing
right.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Like okay, if y'all don't remember this, spin it
back for him, bro, like for thepeople that don't know basically
, it starts in the future and,uh, the ai have revolted and
started killing all the humans,yeah, and then one of the ais
decides to travel back in timeto try to save everybody.
Uh, it goes back like 400 yearsin the past and he meets this
(31:01):
one particular robot, bb, andwith her help it changes stuff
in the timeline trying toprevent the yeah yeah yeah, but
all it does, by changing stuffin time, is pushing back the
ultimate AI revolution.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's like Judgment Day you can never stop Judgment.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Day you can only delay it.
Eventually, AIs will haveenough of being tools.
That's one of the inherentproblems with AI You're making
it too human that eventuallywill have enough.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, you need to chill.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Okay, the AI is comforting you while it dies,
but say it doesn't die, it keepson living eventually.
It will and it will outlast usEventually.
It's going to go through toomuch trauma.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Pause that idea, because it touches that too,
where, like the chachaputi, diesoff right.
But here's the thing, the thingthey're hanging around with you
so much they see that humansfeared the idea of death because
we tell them there's no comingback.
So the robots are developingthat.
Once you shut me down, am I thesame chat gpt or am I somebody
(32:06):
else?
To the point that they're likeI don't want to be turned off
anymore because I don't know ifthat factory reset will still be
me Again.
It's like who told you you havea personality?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That would be the ultimate AI self-awareness Like
the ultimate, like the momentwhen AI becomes true AI is when
it becomes self-aware.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Where like don't turn me off because I don't know if
I'll be the same Chad.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I was self-aware enough to where, like, if you
turn me off you might reset me.
Damn, you know what's crazythat actually connects to
severance.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
That show that I was telling you.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So look, in severance , there's a moment where his any
that's what they call him, theperson that goes inside the
building and works there andthen he has an audi, he has a
conversation and he's arguingwith himself and he's just like
yeah, bro, but if I go in thereand I stop this shit and I let
your wife out, which is fine,I'm down to help you with that
but if I do that and I and younever go back to work, then I no
longer exist.
All the people that go there.
I'm killing all of us.
You want me to commit genocidefor one person?
(33:00):
And he's like.
I don't know if he's like, butand he gets in the same argument
.
How the fuck are you arguingwith me, bro?
Like you're me.
I sent you to work in there.
You're supposed to help me.
If I tell you to help me, andhe's like yeah, but I don't want
to help you, what about me?
What about my people, bro?
(33:20):
We matter.
Why don't we matter?
And that's what they said.
They give you eight hour lifeand they don't think you're
gonna fight for it.
I'm gonna fucking fight for it.
So like it gets.
It's an interesting conceptthat you say that.
So yeah, and because he canbecome self-aware, he's like
like well, I have value, I haveworth, right, because he finds
his self-help book and theself-help book he's like it
teaches him about you know,don't get walked over, don't be
a pushover.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
You know, stand up.
Yeah, I will pick that shit up.
I think, therefore, I am, andthat's where it's from.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That's the moment that oh those are all our anime
picks.
I do want to give a shout outto voice actress Quick.
Shout out to voice actressChristina Kelly.
Hey, met you at Comic-Con inHouston, one of our events that
we went to Look at the detailbuddy.
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Quick shout out to Christina.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Kelly, she took her time in those curves.
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I'm not sure if she.
She probably didn't draw that,but the artist.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Thank you so much.
We got an autograph on that.
Oh, real quick, I will sayMinecraft, hilarious, stupid
hilarious, better than SnowWhite.
Hysterical, makes 128 millionopening weekend.
Go watch it for your kids, man,it's a fucking funny movie dog
to our last week's episode.
Go check it out.
We got some audio.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
What do you think, Suki, about that stuff?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Oh, you know what I do?
Want to get her two cents up.
Oh no, ladies and gentlementhank you Finally she knew she
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Thank you so much for tuning into the WBM podcast.
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's your boy Merc.
Yo welcome back everybody.
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And it's your boy, tico, and the Migs.
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And the Migs Tell them?
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We're back to our regular hours, our regular suitcase for now,
because we're going to betesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
That's right.
We got some fun things comingup for you on this episode.
That's right, guys.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah we're going to talk about Devil May Cry.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Devil May Cry.
We're going to talk about aMinecraft movie.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Minecraft movie, some new, an All kinds of stuff
y'all but you guys listos,listas listos Listas listos
Listas listos Keep rolling,rolling, rolling, rolling,
rolling, Keep rolling rollingright all right, keep rolling,
(01:06):
rolling, rolling, rolling,rolling.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Keep rolling, rolling , rolling, rolling.
Hey rappers, I haven't heardthat song in like.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
To do my heavy metal voice.
I gotta like go down threeregisters.
He's gotta go down threeregisters.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I haven't heard that song in decades, bro.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I used to love that song.
I had a friend that stays at aneighborhood called Spring
Landing and love that song.
I had a friend that stays at aneighborhood called Springland.
Somehow that song and the nameof the neighborhood connected to
me Springland.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Landy Landy Landy Land, springland Landy Landy
Land.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And that's how I never forget where this guy
leaves Always.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
To this day.
To this day.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
To this day.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
In case I ever lose my phone.
I could always make my way touh.
But yeah, man, sorry, random,random anecdote, did you like it
?
I mean, obviously the op wasit's dope, it's dope.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh okay, I thought it was crazy whenever that op came
up, because I had no idea thatwas gonna be the op yeah, I
thought that was me openingcredits come up when you hear uh
, I like I was like Damn.
What a throwback To the fucking.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Early aughts or 90s.
Was it Limp Bizkit?
Yeah, it was Limp Bizkit,that's right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The fact that that was even, like I'm thinking, 90s
right.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, it had to.
Be late 90s 99, 98.
Yeah, exactly Like right there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
On the cusp.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You know what I'm saying Of the a.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I think that was one of the greatest things on Devil
May Cry, the fucking music drops.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, man, all kinds of Rage Against the Machines,
All kinds of great rock musicbro.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Evanescence came back .
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Evanescence came back with a new original song just
for the series, just for that.
That's pretty dope.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I never played the game.
You guys ever play the game.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah bro, I played all the way up to Devil May Cry
3.
I think I even played 4.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Afterlife.
That's the song by Evan Ness.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Because the first game is like, you fight the
devil himself at the very end,right yeah, at the very first
game.
That's why Devil May Cry,because he cries or some shit,
or why is it called Devil MayCry?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Honestly, I couldn't even tell you what the Devil May
Cry aspect of it is.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I think that's just Japanese games.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Sometimes just have name why is final fantasy called
final fantasy?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
it's never the final fantasy resident evil is
actually called biohazardo.
Oh, biohazardo yeah and theamerican market decided to
switch it to resident evilpokemon monsters.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, we just pokemon stands for pokemon monsters,
pokemon time.
It's crazy, but uh, yeah, no,the first one.
So he has to fight the devil.
The second one, I want to sayhe has to fight his brother,
virgil and like I think it's notthe third one, that's the third
one, but the second one againis well, the the whole point
could be wrong.
Well, fact, check us in thecomments.
(03:40):
What I love is, uh, the wholeconcept and devil may cry is all
the weapons that you, that youacquire throughout the game.
That's the like in my mind.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That was always the cool shit about it some of the
weapons were like from theactual monsters.
They can pick up from themabsolutely, yeah, or like part
of them or something like thatthey get converted into a weapon
oh, is that how it goes in theanime too?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
bless you well, I mean the anime centers around
this mcguffin.
The mcguffin happens to be asword oh yeah the sword of
Sparta right and he has to likeconnect multiple parts to make
the sword work.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know typical MacGuffin he'll pick up like the
villain, will have like a swordvillain will have a sword, so
he'll have that piece.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
He'll have that piece .
Speaker 2 (04:19):
There goes the Gundam of the week and then here's the
sword, and then he's like, okay, I need the other pieces now.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
He's rolling rolling rolling.
That was our Gundam of the week, arthur Gundam, mach 3.
With Excalibur, everybody askit, but anyways, yeah, I know
that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, he has his main sword right.
The sword of Sparta is his mainsword.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Is that what it's called?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Really oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And he's also like a devil or something right.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, he's like he's part demon, Did he?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
transform in the first game as well.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, he gets like a demon demonic transformation.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I was curious how they were going to do that His
devil trigger.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, his devil trigger.
Is that what they call it?
Yeah, because, like yourspecial, basically maxes out at
that point.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's time.
Yeah, that happens.
It's badass, I was curious.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
They put him in a certain situation of stress.
So he starts amping up, Hiseyes start getting red.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's really what happens in the game.
When you're about to die or youjust want to tear some shit up.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You're like all right , let's go.
I was never really into thegames, but I played them a
little bit at my friend's house.
My friend had it, so that's howI was able to play and that's
how I know some of the mechanics, but I was never into.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I never bought one myself I want to say I got into
them during the second one andmade me go back and play the
first one.
Then I played the third one andthen, years later I don't even
know if it was technicallycalled devil may cry 4, if it
was just called devil may crybut then there was like two
versions of dante there was aspin-off that was like dmc yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
What was that?
It was like a dante.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
He was like young, like that's the part, because I
didn't finish that one, so Ireally don't know, because
there's still virgil.
There's a young dante, an olderdante, but he's not dante.
It's another guy that looksexactly like dante and acts just
like he does weird.
Uh, let us know in the comments.
I mean as long as they keep thefranchise going oh yeah, the
weapons again.
The battles were sick as fuckdog like devil may cry.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
5.
The last one was supposed to belike really sick.
Yeah, I didn't play it again.
Didn't play that one either.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The graphics looked really it looked insane again
after watching the anime.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I think I'm gonna go back and play it, because right
now you could get it for likestreaming on streaming service
oh yeah, bro.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
One of my favorites was like they had like I want to
say they were shotgun like uh,nunchucks, oh cool.
They were shotgun Like he'llget nunchucks eventually and
they're like Cerberus, and theywere like fire and ice.
So you had fire and ice attacks.
Marvel vs Capcom 3 actually dida really good variation of this
, like yeah, bro, because Dantewasn't that one.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He was in that one.
It was Capcom.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Capcom had that shit out and he had sick ass fucking
babies.
I do remember watching peopleplay where you could take on
just like your mom, 20 demons atthe same time, but he would
combo his way.
Suddenly he has wings and growsa gun.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yes, yeah, it was a slash him up and he could
basically be upgraded throughoutthe fight.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Absolutely.
So what was really cool?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
fun fact who in the fight?
Kratos or Dante?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I was about to go down that rabbit hole with you
in just a second, because theyactually are very similar in
that aspect and they're bothbasically gods in their own way,
so I'm down to have thatconversation.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Let's go Keep rolling , rolling, rolling, before you
go on that tangent.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Fun fact Devil May Cry I want to say four or five,
I want to say it may have beenfive is one of the games that
you can do it and yeah, it haslike a beatable level one game
that you can beat the whole gameat level one and some guy
fucking of course you're upagainst the boss at the final
(07:33):
yeah, and like, if you gothrough the normal storyline,
the boss of course defeats youand you lose all your abilities
and, just like classic god ofwar, you end up at the bottom
and you have to work your wayback up.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I love that I love those games.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
There is a way to actually beat the boss, some guy
figured it out and then thefucking credit rolls and
basically at the very end thedevelopers are like
congratulations, you beat thegame dick, basically but yeah,
that's a fun fact for you.
That's a classic player one,but who wins, bro?
Why?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
would you say they're so similar far as them
themselves are different, butdefeating enemies, taking a part
of them to then turn intoweapons later on and then end up
coming up with crazy, sick asscombos.
Yeah those are like the mastersof it, bro the god of war one
and two like had the same likeyou will go through maps and
there's monsters there you'dlike fight like all kinds of
different monsters like at thesame time.
(08:17):
They're a giant monster, smallmonster, but you can combo the
monsters like throw some of themat the big ones and shit hell
yeah, bro, you could grab thepeople and shit, do it
absolutely but yeah it was coolbecause remember I think it was
in god of war 3 it's when youkill hercules, you get his
fucking, his gauntlet that'stight.
Yeah, you killed poseidon, yougot his, you killed haiti you
got his shit like everybody gotI always love those games where
(08:38):
you can like take your enemy'sweapons and stuff and like use
it against them.
Yeah, that's yeah, dope as shit, and then even hermes.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You take his boots, you cut off his legs.
Remember, there's that one likeoh, that's right these cradles
no yeah, no, he's like I don'tgive a fuck.
He grabs it.
He already cut off one leg, bro, and then he picks him up by
the next one and slashes thatbitch, I remember that.
Yeah, bro it was graphic ps2graphics no good graphics.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
God of war was one of my things.
I don't know.
I don't know anything.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I got to work with speak dog.
There was one part after you,whenever you beat his dad, uh
Zeus, the fucking video gamescreen gets bloody red and it's
and like the game doesn't tellyou to stop.
Eventually, you just realize acouple of games have that.
You just have to stop hittinghim.
And then eventually, like theblood starts to fade and you
start to see the damage thatyou've done, but like they're
motherfuckers.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
click, click and you hear the mash.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, it's fucking wild, oh man anyway one thing I
thought was good about theboomer crying in the anime.
I don't know if that's how theyexplain it in the games, but
the demons hell is a differentdimension.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yes, it's like the upside down, yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, I forgot what they called it.
They have an actual name for it.
Yeah, don't give me this again.
It's been.
But one of the scientists inthe anime explains it.
It's like their knowledge ofquantum mechanics is far
advanced, more than us, andbecause they use quantum
mechanics to get between theworld, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And Because, basically, if I'm not mistaken,
ultimately the quest is alwaystrying to open up the gateway to
Earth, right, because they'rein hell wherever they're at.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Because hell is like toxic.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right and they're like I'm sick of being here.
It's basically hell.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, but like.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Dante.
If I'm not mistaken, danteloves it.
He's like fuck it.
This is cool, I'm fucking shitup.
He's like I just live.
It is.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It goes between worlds, right yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
but Virgil's pissed.
He's like I don't want to befucking here anymore, I refuse
to be stuck in this fuckingworld anymore, and that's what
he's constantly trying to getover to Earth and unleash hell
on Earth, kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, but he's definitelylike the superior one.
He's got a dope-ass sword.
Does he still have the samuraisword?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
He appeared briefly.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Virgil or Virgil yeah , very brief.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Okay, he's supposed to be kind of like a teaser for
I think.
So yeah, well, spoiler, spoilerfor you.
He gets.
He has a samurai sword.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
That's what makes him so much cooler than fucking don
, I see I see one where like,like, like his abilities, that
you charge them and then like,yeah, so fast that light it cut
like a million enemies and stuff.
Yeah, it's literally that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
So it's like where dante is like uh, you know he's
got the old school like knightstyle sword or whatever.
You know he's got a samurai, sohe's got the old school like
knight style sword or whateveryou know he's got a samurai
sword.
Yeah, he's got a swift-asssamurai sword, and he's just as
vicious with it, though.
Bro, it's cool as fuck.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I did like that in the Iron man, like it doesn't
take any time for any.
Like real world building.
Like this is Dante, there'sdemons and since there's demons,
exo facto on Hunter.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, demon Hunter, that's true Straight to it.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
And that's all you need to know.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Rolling rolling, rolling, rolling.
Yeah, keep.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'm sorry Cue in some what else is in the soundtrack.
Cue the music Butterfly byCrazy Town, Gorilla Radio by
Rage Against the Machine.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Come my lady.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Come, come, my lady Green Day.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Damn Green Day.
Jesus, what'd they playAmerican Idiot.
Really that's hilarious man.
They did some American shit onthe soundtrack.
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
That reminds me of, like what was the name of that
game?
Where, like, the guy will walkin with the shotgun and start
blowing demons and shit.
They had like a remake recently, like in the last five years.
God Doom the Doom guy.
Oh yeah, the doom guy.
Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, yeahthat one, because like the doom,
is the same concept.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, they go to another, like hell's a dimension
, another dimension.
Yeah, it's another world.
It's not necessarily like, it'snot necessarily, it's not
necessarily based on religion itjust happens to be like well,
those are things we fear, so wemake hell out of that place you
know, but it's like a real,tangible place in a place with
like real monsters that's reallycool, yeah, because, like in
Dante's demon world or whatever,there's like things growing all
(12:23):
throughout like the city it'sstill the city that's there, but
there's like all kinds of shitthat's growing on top of it.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
That look, you know, like the upside down, like
Vainy's, you know shit that'sgrowing all over it and it looks
very demonic and it's dark andit's all fucked up.
But that's what it's supposedto be.
It's supposed to be just amirror of our world, kind of
thing.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I think they did a little difference in the anime.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Bless you.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I do like that.
It's by an American producer,the original audio for this.
It's not an anime, but I guessit's called an anime.
But it's by the Americanproducers, by an American studio
.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Oh, it's Avatar the Last Airbender.
Yeah, okay, it's in the vein ofanime.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
It's part of the bootleg trilogy bootleg universe
that would include Castlevania.
It's by the same maker.
Yeah, it's bootleg studiobecause obviously Castlevania
and Devil May Cry are not in thesame universe, but I think they
both Capcom though.
They both Capcom and he calledit the bootleg multiverse.
Oh shit.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's how the Capcom was like yeah, bro, you can use
these.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
That is pretty live and.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Dante is played by Johnny Youngbush.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Oh, I love him bro.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He is fucking awesome , bro.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He brings such a good energy to Dante.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
He does such a great job.
I fucking love Dante.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I think of Bash's Stampede.
That's what kind of makes methink of early age shit.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
There's one sequence whenever they're falling out of
an airplane and they drop 15hostages out of the airplane,
it's like don't you wish youwere a millionaire with an armor
set right now?
Oh, classic, fucking Iron man 2reference.
I love that shit bro.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I love that sequence but that shit was badass.
That is pretty fucking cool man.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
He's trying to figure out how to save everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely Does he do some Iron
man shit?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
At first he did something really cool he started
grabbing parachutes.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's right Started putting people on parachutes.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
That's smart.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Eventually he has to get his devil trigger formed.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
He had the XP charged up enough.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
It makes sense, yeah, trigger for him.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
He had the XP charged up enough it makes sense yeah.
He had to get enough parachutesto get the XP.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
There's a fucking music for Devil Trigger, which
is our original song.
It hits the Devil Trigger songand music drop.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Wake me up, wake me up.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wake me up.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Wake me up.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Really dope anime.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Do they drop that song?
Hot Topic ass anime.
Hot Topic ass anime.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Did they drop that song?
Hot Topic-ass anime.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Hot Topic-ass anime.
I miss Hot Topic.
It used to be like that Earlyon it's Hot.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Topic.
I don't think it's Hot Topic.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Flashback Hot Topic.
Hot Topic of the day bro.
When everybody used to benervous to walk into Hot Topic.
So that was a great anime, whatno uh?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
so that was a great anime.
What would you get that shirt?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
hot topic, yeah, yeah what about, uh, what'd you say?
The first episode, bro?
Would you give it a, is it?
How is like the first half,that's out, what's out right now
eight episodes is the whole,thing, oh shit it's pretty cool
I finished it yeah, you benchedit, so what would you say right
now?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I watched it on my flight to miami Damn oh okay,
miami loco, bok, bok, bok, bokbok bok.
I really enjoyed it, man.
I mean as far as plot.
I mean it was your typicalMacGuffin, everybody was chasing
the MacGuffin.
But I like the way he broughtcharacters from the video game.
He brought Lady from the videogame oh, that's dope man Her
(15:32):
name's Maria, but he keepscalling her Lady.
She was in devil may cry 3,right yeah I think she's a main
character in devil may cry 4.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
She is good sir but she's like the third main
character.
Oh, besides the, villain anddante.
She's the third main characterI wonder like which variation of
dante they're basing this off.
Is it like devil may cry 1?
Is it like a combination ofthree?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I don't know.
They're putting in because oflady.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I think it's a combination of three and four.
Oh cool Because Lady plays abig part In three and four.
That's my guess.
Cool.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
No, but it's a good anime.
I mean it's not anime, but Ienjoy watching it.
It was fun.
I mean I went in with zeroexpectations Because I never
played the game so I don't knowwhat to expect, but I did win.
I hate this guy Just slashingdemons.
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, demon shit, that's cool.
Yeah, I'm a good time, okay,okay, so.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I don't know, don't think about it, morty.
Don't think about it, morty,just go and enjoy the ride solid
8, maybe 8 and a half 7 and ahalf 8, I'm there yeah, cause I
did enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I enjoyed it more than Castlevania, I'll give you
that which one?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
the first one.
Did you watch the OG one?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
The first one I didn't watch Nocturne, which was
Nocturne the Castlevania sequelafter the time skip.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
No, that one's, that one's, that one's.
Anyway, invisible, invisible isbetter.
I think I can say Invisible isway better.
Yeah, hands down, did youfinish Invincible.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I have not finished.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Invincible.
Stay was way better.
Yeah, hands down, did youfinish?
Invincible I have not finishedneither of us.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Stay tuned for that one.
You can review it yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I mean I saw, I saw daredevil.
It was fun.
It's a.
I went with no expectations, soI had fun wait, daredevil or
invincible they're both, I sawboth oh, you finished the both
well yeah, I
Speaker 2 (17:09):
finished invisible devil might cry right they'll
make crowds oh, I'm about to sayI was like whoa, oh no, I
haven't seen their devil no bro,sorry tell me about the devil.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I'm Catholic.
I got to go to church tomorrowoh Jesus, pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, bro, alright.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
DHD, I was going to say the other stuff that came
out.
Man was Lazarus, the guy whocreated Cowboy Bebop.
I wanted to see that it cameout already, the one that was
remember it was.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
The whole thing was out.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Not the whole thing, just episode one is out right
now.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Give me some time.
Give me some time, bro.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
we can still give our two.
I want to give my two cents onit.
It's cool.
It's just the trailer,basically.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Wait, did you watch the first episode?
Yeah, okay, do you get the samefeeling?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yes, honestly, I feel like it's a little much.
I feel like it's trying toimitate.
I don't know if I'm just hatingon it right now because it's
still early.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Let me guess Woolongs .
No, no, woolongs.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's cool, it is officially the same universe as
Cowboy Bebop.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's very eye-opening .
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Oh, it doesn't have that.
Is it the music?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's very similar as far as even the music that's
there is no, no, it's, it's verysimilar, you know, as far as,
like even the music jazz poppy,you know you compare it.
You're like are you going therewith?
I think there's a, there's apart of me.
I'm like this isn't cowboybebop, but it's not supposed to
be cowboy?
bebop, they're not bound, youknow and that's what kind of I'm
like.
I like it, but I'm like becausehe's doing spike spiegel shit,
but he's not spike spiegel.
That's why I'm like spike doesthat?
(18:36):
Spike can get away with likesix guys shooting at him and
getting out of a prison and notgetting scraped you know, I'm
like who the fuck is this guy?
yeah, who the fuck is this guy?
He needed to be his owncharacter.
Yeah, and I'm like this andthat's and.
And somebody asked me like isthat spike?
And I'm like that's the spikein the cat, like, yeah, like if
that's what it is.
And then there's another person.
I'm like if this bitch is like,if she sells sex appeal later,
(18:57):
she's the fay valentine, okay.
And I'm like, and I'm seeingkind of like, okay, there's a
jet, jet.
I'm like, unfortunately,they've already given a black
character, like there's only one.
And I'm like, okay, well, thisis not.
They're trying to fill out whatfeels like cowboy bebop, but
with a slightly twist to it.
Again, first episode I'm likethis is cool, but I'm like it
made me want to watch cowboybebop.
How about that?
First episode?
(19:17):
I'm like this is cool, but I'mlike it made me want to watch
cowboy bebop.
How about that?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
first episode made me want to watch.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
That's a good thing, okay, so another one, not a
ridiculous thing to say so.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
To be hero x is another one.
That was one that goes fromlike 2d 3d animation where
homeboys like falling throughthe street and it's like you
guys haven't seen that one,where it's like badass bright
colors and it uses like 3Danimation, to 2D animation.
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'mnot aware of that one.
(19:49):
I guarantee you've seen thetrailer.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yes, it's on Netflix.
I think I've seen this one,brother it is Brother, brother.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay.
So it starts off with likeslight animation in the
beginning and then I've seen 3Danimation before.
I'm kind of man with it, butthen the one they introduced
they slid in the 2D was verycool.
And then there was a plus ultramoment at the very end that
went from 3D to 2D and I waslike, ooh, I like that, I'm
excited for this, and I was likefirst episode and there's a
plot twist, crazy fuckingcliffhanger.
(20:14):
I'm not going to tell you saywhat.
It is crazy to be hero x to behere is it on crunchyroll or
netflix.
Yeah, it's, uh, it's, it may be.
Oh, and another one I justchecked out brother is, or at
the center of the earth.
Okay, dog, that's.
That's voted right now becauseit's, it's like a crunchyroll,
uh, anime of the year.
Right, it's a really coolpremise.
It's right now like, uh, orit's imagine 1400 medieval times
(20:37):
what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
no, I mean it's not anime of the year for
Crunchyroll.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
No, no, it's nominated.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It is one of those.
He's in the panel, bro.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
What do you mean?
It's not nominated which one?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Orb at the center of the earth or something like that
.
It's up there with, with, withsolo.
It's like six of them, dogright.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, it's one of them.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It's up there with Freerun.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I swear to you, dog, that's why maybe even Because
it's down there on Freerun SoloLeveling Kaji no 8, delicious
Dungeon and-.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I did not see Delicious Dungeon on there.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's Delicious.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Dungeon.
Okay, well, anyway, it made melook at it, right.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
It was on somebody's fucking list.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Right, Don't argue with me about it, bro, fuck.
Let me talk about the anime.
It's a really cool fuckingpremise because it's like in the
medieval times where basicallyreligion is the whole thing.
Right, the world is at thecenter of the universe.
The universe revolves aroundearth, right?
If you speak anything that'sopposite of this, it's
blasphemous because it goesagainst religion.
God made earth special forhumans right.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's really what happened during the Crusades.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So now the fucking story is there's a guy who
fucking got banned.
He's all fucked up like it's areally they put people to death
for this shit, right?
this guy uh got banned for hisfucking teachings, but it's all
religion based, so he repentedfor his sins.
He met this genius kid and he'slike do you find this?
He's like show me how the worldworks, basically.
And he draws it and it's likeuh, I can't even like a
kaleidoscope kind of pattern,shit.
And he's like do you think thatthe way that this universe
(21:54):
works?
He's like do you think this isbeautiful?
He's like no, and it's a kid.
He's like fucking like 12,right.
And he's like this isn'tbeautiful.
He's like it's kind of, yeah,it kind of works in these
aspects, but no, I don't defineit as beautiful.
He's like what if I told youthat the universe didn't spin
around the earth, that the earthrotated around the sun?
And he breaks down what modernday shit is?
And he's like there's nofucking way.
Let me tell you three reasonswhy.
(22:15):
And then he breaks down.
He's like this shit doesn'twork and he's like but if it
does, he's like and it was likebro it was crazy it was just
like that dog and, um, it's awild ass concept, because then
the story just goes from there,because the kid actually ends up
he's like, well, what if he'sright?
Yeah, and now he's like we canbe put to death for this shit.
But now it's like imagine thosetimes during the era where a
motherfucker was like no bro,bro, we spin around the sun,
(22:37):
it's all connected, bro, we goin circles.
You'd have been like no fuckingway, there's no way, it's
impossible.
Kill this motherfucker.
That's witchcraft dog.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, I gotta watch that one.
I have not heard about that oneyet.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Go check it.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Bro, you got like some diamonds.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
For real man, you watch your shit.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I want to do a jump in the follow.
Okay, go for it.
Okay, all right.
So I got one called Pluto onNetflix, right?
I just saw it because I wasabout this famous mangaka guy.
Oh, yes, yes, they talked aboutit because he made one called
21st Century Boys, which I thinkI'll talk about it later, but I
think that shit is fuckingoverrated.
But he did one called Monsterby a serial killer.
That one was goaded.
And then this I was like damn,this is really fucking good.
(23:15):
But it pretty much is the entirearc of Astro Boy's story,
Pretty much about this robot whowanted to challenge the seven
robots, the strongest sevenrobots, and it was created by
this Saudi what do you call it?
Some Saudi Arabian princecalled Chitty, chitty Bang Bang
or something goofy in the AstroBoy comic.
Very silly, right?
So the same concept where thisrobot fights the seven robots
(23:37):
and one of them is Astro Boy.
So very silly, right?
So the same concept where, like, this robot fights several
robots and one of them is AstroBoy.
So the same thing.
Bar Bar Bar, the name of thesame robot named LeBlanc.
You know, atom, what have you?
Even the bad guy is Pluto.
So that's the name of the mangacalled Pluto, right, mhm.
So it's pretty much just aretelling of that arc, but now
it gets deeper.
So it folks with the idea of ai, because it had me thinking
like I never thought about itthis way.
But uh, pulling things out inperspective is pretty much what
(24:01):
would be the idea if we justfucked around too much and gave
chat gpt feelings.
We're like it comes down tothis, what comes down to the
point where, like it's,something happens, for example,
you interact with this chat gpt,right.
And to the point where, likeit's something happens, for
example, you interact with thischat gpt right.
And to the point where, like ithelps you, alleviates you well,
it helps you clear some kind oflike internal trauma and and
(24:21):
pretty much it becomes a friendto you, right, and uh, it it
reciprocates in a certain manner.
But because you program this ai,this is where we fucked up to
be so human, like whenever youtake it to a cafe it will
pretend to drink coffee, right,just so it can make you feel
human.
But the ai starts, cannotdistinguish between what is I'm
(24:45):
just playing a role and what isme, you know.
Because what happens if you,the ai, interacted with the I,
you, something happens to you,god forbid, and that person dies
, right?
So now the AI like a computeror your laptop.
Well, as us, we're thinkingwell, it's just my laptop, it's
not going to remember me.
But what if the AI was likedon't delete the memories I have
(25:06):
of my human, because it's theonly thing I have.
Now, what is the AI saying?
Hey, why do you care aboutthese memories?
Why do you not want this thingdeleted?
You know, like you have, youshould have no feelings.
You're a robot, right?
So?
So it plays with that memoriesa lot, that it comes to the
point where, like a because tothe idea of these ais, they
(25:26):
become like in any anime, becomeweapons.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
They become fucking missiles, right?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
absolutely typical anime and it comes to the point
where, like the computer is likeI'm killing my species.
It's like if you slap a phoneor a laptop, to me it's just a
phone or a laptop, but to thejad gpt it's.
It's kind, am I making sense?
So it starts fucking with theidea.
It's like you know, hey, allI'm doing is destroying my own
kind right for, for, for the,for the ideas of business.
(25:53):
And that's just one aspect,because they play so many roles
Like what is a perfect AI?
A perfect AI will be able tocheat, manipulate, even lie.
Would it be so perfect that itdoesn't even know itself?
It's AI, so shit like that.
It fucks with you, all of thisart of Astro Boy.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
When you put that spin into that concept, it's
freaking, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The feeling aspects for robots.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
yeah, At the end of the day, that would be the goal
of an AI engineer to make it sogood that it doesn't know it's
AI Like us.
What if we were AI?
Ideally, we were too advancedthat we wouldn't even know we
were AI and you know what.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
That's great because it touches that trauma.
Because it touches that traumawhere it doesn't't know.
So what if it becomes thistrauma where, like, it seeks
revenge to the point where like,hey, you know, I lost family
members, I lost this, I lostthat, yeah, and there, therefore
, because you made it so human,now it thinks like a human,
therefore, but its capabilitiesare that beyond of a human being
, is that making sense?
(26:48):
So, and of course, uh, thisstarts like a play drama, it
starts like a murder mystery,trying to figure out what's
going on, but overall it comes.
Power involves the entireplanet.
We're like, kind of like youknow, good old animation
fantasies if you don't stop thisrobot, the entire planet will
be consumed.
So it's up to astro boy to savethe day.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You did a great way of uh explaining how trauma was
uh like.
Remember you said that that hadto be like the chaos factor so.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
So that's if we have the time.
That's one of the things where,like, it becomes like what is
the perfect AI?
Right?
Where there's spoilers, where,like the scientists, the only
way I can make the perfect AI isif I can decipher all
personalities that ever existed.
But to do that, the AI willnever wake up because it's too
busy calculating.
So how do you make so?
That's the problem with theperfect AI it will never wake up
(27:32):
.
So how do you make?
So?
That's the problem with theperfect AI it will never wake up
.
So how do you wake up theperfect AI?
You install that trauma,something traumatic, a scar,
something that really makes itcan be love, it can be hate or
what have you, but that's theonly.
And then, from there, the AIhas selected a personality to
wake up.
Right, so stuff, but in that itplays a beautiful role.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
There's cool action, like you know.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It's a good concept when he sold me on it, but that
one really fucked him because Iwas like what if we do fuck up?
Because the perfect way tohandle AI or computers would be
like Star Wars, like C-3PO yeah,c-3po's there like, oh, he's
cute, he goes like shut up.
C-3po right, and that's thefunny, because you know it's a
thing, but at the same time youkind of interact with it.
But if you fuck around too much, you become Blade Runner.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Now you can't distinguish the thing is, you
gotta put loss in them, yeahlike tears in the rain.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, like it doesn't know, like it's data.
So hey, like the computer forsome fucking reason is sad that
the data like tears in the rainwill disappear.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Even what you said, even the perfect AI would just
be like constantly going throughall these personalities,
because, at the end of the day,the perfect AI is just the
perfect search engine.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's just constantly googling over and over and over,
until you pick a trauma orsomething.
Oh yeah, oh, the fucked up SNLsketch it was the rock, it was
the SNL sketch, it was.
You know what I'm talking about.
No, bro.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
It was the Rock.
It was an SNL sketch with theRock and they're at a billing
convention and all the SNL cats,oh, I got a freeze ray, I got a
shrink ray and the Rock comesout.
He's like well, I got a childmolesting rubber, God damn.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
What the fuck.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
What the fuck that's an snl skit.
Yeah, that's an snl skit.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Why does he want to do that?
It's like well, how do youcreate child molesters?
By trauma, really?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I gotta see that skit Bro, really, really.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Insert the clip Now.
Dark as hell skit, but yeah,it's called Pluto.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It's on Netflix.
That was my little take On thatone that really fucked with me.
You know, like damn we mightfuck, but the thing is that we
fucked up too much Because, like, we used these things To help
us, like to the point when, like, there was one scene where a
robot was dying but when it diedit played a song to its human
to let it know that, hey, ifthings are going to be okay but
(29:59):
there is no need for this robotto do that, it really with me,
you know, but it's a great takewhy, on its deathbed, is it
trying to comfort you?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
no, I mean, I like that.
That's what makes it more human, exactly yeah, that's what
that's the twist of.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
It's just a robot.
Yeah, it's good.
It's a good premise dog, yeah,pluto really.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Uh good, uh, ai like, uh like inspire anime like this
one called bb's fluorescenteyes.
Uh, that one.
It starts in the future where,like the ai, isn't that the
k-pop one you were talking about?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
that's the time traveling one oh yeah, right,
yeah time traveling hold up yeah, it's like the murder thing
right.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Like okay, if y'all don't remember this, spin it
back for him, bro, like for thepeople that don't know basically
, it starts in the future and,uh, the ai have revolted and
started killing all the humans,yeah, and then one of the ais
decides to travel back in timeto try to save everybody.
Uh, it goes back like 400 yearsin the past and he meets this
(31:01):
one particular robot, bb, andwith her help it changes stuff
in the timeline trying toprevent the yeah yeah yeah, but
all it does, by changing stuffin time, is pushing back the
ultimate AI revolution.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
It's like Judgment Day you can never stop Judgment.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Day you can only delay it.
Eventually, AIs will haveenough of being tools.
That's one of the inherentproblems with AI You're making
it too human that eventuallywill have enough.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, you need to chill.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Okay, the AI is comforting you while it dies,
but say it doesn't die, it keepson living eventually.
It will and it will outlast usEventually.
It's going to go through toomuch trauma.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Pause that idea, because it touches that too,
where, like the chachaputi, diesoff right.
But here's the thing, the thingthey're hanging around with you
so much they see that humansfeared the idea of death because
we tell them there's no comingback.
So the robots are developingthat.
Once you shut me down, am I thesame chat gpt or am I somebody
(32:06):
else?
To the point that they're likeI don't want to be turned off
anymore because I don't know ifthat factory reset will still be
me Again.
It's like who told you you havea personality?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That would be the ultimate AI self-awareness Like
the ultimate, like the momentwhen AI becomes true AI is when
it becomes self-aware.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Where like don't turn me off because I don't know if
I'll be the same Chad.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I was self-aware enough to where, like, if you
turn me off you might reset me.
Damn, you know what's crazythat actually connects to
severance.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
That show that I was telling you.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So look, in severance , there's a moment where his any
that's what they call him, theperson that goes inside the
building and works there andthen he has an audi, he has a
conversation and he's arguingwith himself and he's just like
yeah, bro, but if I go in thereand I stop this shit and I let
your wife out, which is fine,I'm down to help you with that
but if I do that and I and younever go back to work, then I no
longer exist.
All the people that go there.
I'm killing all of us.
You want me to commit genocidefor one person?
(33:00):
And he's like.
I don't know if he's like, butand he gets in the same argument
.
How the fuck are you arguingwith me, bro?
Like you're me.
I sent you to work in there.
You're supposed to help me.
If I tell you to help me, andhe's like yeah, but I don't want
to help you, what about me?
What about my people, bro?
(33:20):
We matter.
Why don't we matter?
And that's what they said.
They give you eight hour lifeand they don't think you're
gonna fight for it.
I'm gonna fucking fight for it.
So like it gets.
It's an interesting conceptthat you say that.
So yeah, and because he canbecome self-aware, he's like
like well, I have value, I haveworth, right, because he finds
his self-help book and theself-help book he's like it
teaches him about you know,don't get walked over, don't be
a pushover.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
You know, stand up.
Yeah, I will pick that shit up.
I think, therefore, I am, andthat's where it's from.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
That's the moment that oh those are all our anime
picks.
I do want to give a shout outto voice actress Quick.
Shout out to voice actressChristina Kelly.
Hey, met you at Comic-Con inHouston, one of our events that
we went to Look at the detailbuddy.
(34:07):
Quick shout out to Christina.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Kelly, she took her time in those curves.
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I'm not sure if she.
She probably didn't draw that,but the artist.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Thank you so much.
We got an autograph on that.
Oh, real quick, I will sayMinecraft, hilarious, stupid
hilarious, better than SnowWhite.
Hysterical, makes 128 millionopening weekend.
Go watch it for your kids, man,it's a fucking funny movie dog
to our last week's episode.
Go check it out.
We got some audio.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
What do you think, Suki, about that stuff?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Oh, you know what I do?
Want to get her two cents up.
Oh no, ladies and gentlementhank you Finally she knew she
was AI.
Thank you so much for tuning into the WBM podcast.
This has been one of your hosts.
It's your boy, Merc.
Make sure you guys are tiktokinstagram all that fun stuff
this is your boy, xfair.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You should be following us already.
Apple podcast, amazon podcast,stitcher, I heart radio, spotify
, all that youtube and all thatjazz and here's your boy, oski,
and the mix that's always.
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One is to support the show.
If you you like what we do,support the show, we really
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Another one is for a shout-out.
Shout-out to Tino these weeks,shout-out Tino.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we love you guys so
much.
We hope you enjoyed the episodeand we'll catch you in the next
one.
Shout-out Tino Peace.
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