June 23, 2025 • 24 mins
Remember when animated classics captured our hearts with magical stories and unforgettable characters? The boys talk about Disney's recent obsession with live-action remakes, examining what makes some soar while others crash and burn. Are studios simply recycling content for a quick profit, or can these remakes offer something meaningful to both new audiences and classic fans? Tune in and find out for yourself on this episode of the WBM Podcast!!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
good evening ladies and gentlemen.
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
It's your boy, murk yo, it's your boy x fan.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome back and this is your boy guys, we got a fun
one for you today and we'regonna talk about live action.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We're gonna talk about a couple live action
movies that we checked outlately how to Train your Dragon,
lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Ohana and we're going to.
I was going to say, whichapparently doesn't mean much for
anything nowadays, but a coupleof things changed, a couple of
things didn't.
Let's break it down.
We're going to go in and giveour two cents on live actions
ladies and gentlemen, I hope youguys enjoy this one.
Let's go Credits creditsdirected.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
The people deserve.
Starting light camera, twocamera one.
Low key though I can't wait forthe Fast and Furious live
action, though Like that will betight, bro Bro shut the fuck up
.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The anime is actually going to be great.
Dog Shut up, bro.
I haven't heard this other dudein the 11th film.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Live action.
Bro would be crazy, bro, shutup bro.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I want to know if you know.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Anime Vin Diesel with anime fucking Decepticons would
be badass.
Well, they did already have ananimated series on Netflix
called Spy Race here.
Oh, you did say that.
How did that do I never watchedit?
Perfect.
But Vin Diesel is basicallylike his nephew, and a bunch of
kids go around saying oh, that'sAmerican animation.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Or anime, though the difference American animation
See.
I went to the anime version.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's the square one .
They got like square fingersand like triangle elbows.
I hate that style.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The dot charger is very square.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't know why they do that.
I mean, I guess I think it'sjust, like you know, trying to
be fast, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do y'all want to mention Comic Palooza here at
the beginning or at the end?
Let's do it right now.
Let's get it over with.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Comic Palooza is this weekend, when, in a couple of
days, June 20th through the 22ndat the George R Brown
Convention Center.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
ladies and gentlemen, that's right guys, We'll be
there Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
At 3.45 pm.
That's our panel on Friday andSunday.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
At 11 a.
That's right On.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Sunday, so check us out.
On Friday.
We're going to be on the pinkstage Sunday finals at the
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So if you see us wave, say hi,smile.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'm a little shy.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, he's not.
But yeah, this year they have abunch of new stuff.
Like they have this thingcalled University of
Comicpalooza or ComicpaloozaUniversity, where they actually
brought like people withdoctorates and stuff from all
around the country to like breakdown topics like break it down
like on a more like, I guess,collegiate level what is the one
(02:55):
?
piece.
Tell me why won't you text meback?
So they actually do.
They actually bring togetherscholars and can explore pop
culture to curate panels aboutcomics, animated literature and
real world themes and how theyreflect in comics, like how how
representation is reflected incomics or how comics have, like
you know, evolved throughout thethroughout the years.
(03:18):
So, like you know, as I getolder, I want I analyze the
stories more, you know.
So to me it's cool to like seepanels where people are like
reading too much into it.
So do I, and I'm sure thecreators are like really happy.
Like they, they put all theselayers in the in their
storytelling to be analyzed.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
If I was a creator, I'd be, like you know, elated
that they're they need to haveat least just four professors
for one piece, bro, because itcovers human trafficking,
slavery, oppression.
Don't trust the government.
Economics All of it, bro.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Freedom.
Yeah, that's like the mostAmerican and at the end of the
day, it's a manga for kids overthere, you know yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But the themes are there.
The themes are there where youcould like read a lot into it
and like break it down and bringit into a real world.
Yeah, and and break it down andbring it into the real world
and just actually bring it up inconversation.
So check out the Comic PaloozaUniversity panels.
That's my plug in this year.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Not a sponsor.
We're sponsoring, not that one.
We're partners.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
We're partners with Comic Palooza.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
We're not going to be in any Comic Palooza University
panels.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
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Fusion Ha Big shout out there.
They got some panels, they'reinterviewing.
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Speaker 3 (04:35):
And Blaze Brothers.
They're going to have their ownbooth.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They're going to have their own booth in the exhibit
floor.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That's right.
Chris Boyce, as a matter offact, I think, is coming back to
comic blues, this year, so gocheck out big city he's actually
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Yeah, and all that fun.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
yes, there's the sprinkle all towards absolutely,
absolutely Nope.
Anyways, let's talk about liveactions.
You want to start?
Should I start?
You want to roll the die?
I'm going to go dark.
You're going to go dark.
Okay, let me go light first,okay.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Please.
Yeah, I'm going to dark bro.
Chill, Not like in a bad way.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm going to do negative comments first.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, let me first.
I watched how to Train yourDragon just like a couple of
days ago and let me tell you I'ma big how to Train your Dragon
fan.
But when did how to Train yourDragon come out, suki?
10 years ago, you said 10 yearsago.
I think it came out in 2007,2008.
And the thing about theoriginal how to Train your
Dragon.
I wasn't a kid.
Yeah, I was grown up.
(05:41):
I was in high school.
But I was younger, so muchyounger than today, but I really
liked the original, like Iwatched it and I really liked it
and I remember I bought thespecial edition back when
blu-rays were a thing it stillholds up, bro, it still holds up
it had emotion.
It had like kind of like.
It had some mature themes in it.
Yes, and the whole idea of likegetting a dragon.
(06:03):
I thought it was really cool.
So it wasn't like I was a kidwhen I watched the original.
I was a high school teenagerbut still I remember like
getting really high and going towatch it and I was like flying
with dragons could you imagine4d with that?
I'll stop bro.
I watched it in 4d, that'sright when that scene came out.
Test flight whenever he like,finally tests flies over the
(06:24):
front, yeah.
The fucking 4D seats go off.
That's dope.
Dang and the final battle inthose seats just like his mother
.
And you uh freaking um.
Toothless spits out a hiccupand water comes out the seat.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh dude.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So you get hit by the spit.
I thought the live action wasgreat.
My honest review is that itholds up Like it's.
In a lot of parts it's framefor frame, basically like 80% of
the movie is exactly frame forframe what the animated was.
And here's my thing.
I don't think there's nothingwrong with that.
Like a lot of people are sayinglike, well, it should be
(06:59):
something different, and I'mlike, well, no, I mean, I like
that it sticks to the originalformula.
But like I just want to see theoriginal animated in live
action, I want to see a coupleof changes here and there and
like add some to the story.
But if it's the same story,there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So and translating to live action, it keeps a lot of
the emotion it keeps.
It's really emotional movie, soit keeps a lot of emotion.
And Gerald Butler, who voicesStoic in the original, gets
brought back for the live actionand he does such a great job
and he gets a lot of extra lines.
You know yeah yeah, becauseit's Jared Butler.
Why wouldn't you give him extralines?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, you're going to have to.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The dragons look great.
Toothless is the only one thatlooks kind of like a lot
cartoonish, but that's becausehe's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's like Sonic.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They kept him.
They kept him with the big eyesand big mouth.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
They just made him bigger size, just kill him
bigger.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, basically, and the other dragons they like make
the eyes smaller, like you know, lizards or reptiles.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So they make the eyes smaller, so they kind of look
like dinosaurs really, butToothless keeps the big eyes
because he needs to emote,basically mode, basically yeah,
yeah, they're like if you makehis eyes small, then he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know, you don't see his emotions, right?
Yeah, I was thinking when hesaid that I was like, oh, it's
like spider-man, now that he hashis suit with the eyes move, he
can emote so much more dead.
When he has his eyes that move,they move.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, you know, they make it better if he gets, you
know, chameleon eyes or reptileeyes, then we don't get to see
the.
Yeah, he's just a dragon.
That's the only reason thathe's the only dragon that gets
to keep.
But the whole oh, astrid,astrid, played by Nico Parker.
A lot of people were upsetabout the casting, but she
actually does a great job.
She is Astrid and she's the onethat actually gets more lines
(08:36):
in the movie than the otherversion.
I think she gets a little bitmore of agency.
Basically, Cool man, she does agreat job.
The guy that plays Hcup I meanhe's hiccup, but I mean hiccup
doesn't.
I mean, it's just a funnycharacter, you know yeah, this
is a first movie.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Uh, director who did the animated is now doing the
live action as well, yes, theyactually brought the same
director, director that did thefirst movie they brought him
back.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It doesn't make sense why they wouldn't have done
that for all of them, though bro, it's like a no-brainer.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's like, well, bring back the creator of it why
wouldn't, you just bring backthe same director.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
He obviously understood the vision, because
he made you a fucking hit youknow what I'm saying.
But what do I know?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
um sounds like the director of how to train your
dragon is also the director oflilo and stitch the animated
version.
The animated version animatedversion oh um, after you know,
it was a couple years afterlittle and stitch that he was uh
brought on the project for howto trade your dragon correct.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So his big hit was lilo and stitch, which was an
amazing film.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
People loved it it got a live action made out of it
.
Surprisingly enough, I didn'tthink to be honest, I didn't
think that was the next.
You know, I feel like there'smore popular titles to bring up
before Lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yes, Maybe that's why .
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But I mean it was really popular with the girls.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Lilo and Stitch is hot right now.
For kids Like Lilo and Stitch,anything sells lilo, it can just
be stitched.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
So if you watch lilo and stitch the cartoon, bro,
there's lilo's hilarious, butshe's bad as fuck though, bro,
that other, that movie, bro,she's bad as oh, she's a bad kid
, yeah, she's bad.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
She's getting in constant fights all kinds of
talking shit, all kinds of stuffthat happens with her in that
movie, bro she talks a lot ofshit to her sister.
Yeah, she does so they go backand forth a lot of whatever
that's what he leaves there likedrowsy Damn.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't know how to see the movie.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, here's my thing .
I liked the film a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
However, the original or the live action.
The live action, I had three.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You liked the live action, I had three, almost
three tearjerker moments in thelive action.
Oh, there were two scenes,though, that ruined it for me
when he paid the popcorn to.
I couldn't even tell you whatthey wore because they were very
forgettable, but I rememberlike watching, I'm like wow,
this was actually pretty good.
I like what they were doinghere.
This actually seemed good.
And then the narrative, like Isaid, lilo has her.
Her big speech of ohana meansfamily.
(10:52):
Family means we stay together.
Nobody gets left behind.
Her sister, nami nani, turnsright around and is like fuck
you, boo-hoo.
Basically like we did get left.
Deal with it Like dog.
She's like six, like that'sreally fucked up to say to a
six-year-old.
I don't care how old you are,how pissed off you are at the
world, Like you know.
And it's crazy because if youwatch the animated series and
(11:15):
the fucking the animated runthat they had on Disney for a
short duration of time, Becausethey didn't have a sequel.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
like little TV series , they had a TV series.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So with that series it's all about them being
together, them being family, andthey adopt more Lilo-style
aliens, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yes, and the main black guy, that's right.
They have the other.
Yeah, the other stitches thatcome into play or whatever.
And again, they already showeda couple of them in the movie,
so I think that already set itup for the sequel.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
They didn't have the big dishes, the big cop the big
cop and he wasn't there thegiant bounty hunter was not
there oh, it's weird because hewas the main villain he was
turning to the main villain, thedad the remember the purple
professor yes, he's like now thevillain, which doesn't make any
sense I don't think it would itdoesn't, man, it really really
(11:59):
doesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I don't like that part about it but I'm like, eh,
okay, I can still push past thatbecause, guess what?
The best part of the movie thelittle girl who played Lilo
adorable, Fucking cute as shitLike cute kid.
She sells it Stitch.
Best part of the movie bro,Live action, animated, doesn't
matter His character just worksto my family.
yeah, he does the same thing.
He does the same.
He does a good job at it likeit's the same animated ending,
(12:35):
like from the from the movie,right from the animated film.
It's the exact same in theending, except nami's like okay,
I'm gonna make the harddecision and I have to leave
damn that's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I didn't go and watch it, but that's what I heard.
And, like in the live action,the sister leaves her behind so
she leaves her behind.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
The way she justifies it, though, is by she, instead
of just going into the system offoster care or whatever she
gets, given over to theneighbors who quote unquote
raised her like family, so inthat sense, she's still, with
quote unquote, family.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
But I mean that kind of takes away everything that
the movie.
That's what the hell movie?
That's what the movie's tryingto do.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
This is what pissed me off.
This is the other part thatmade me mad.
One not only was it the fuckyou do her face, it was this one
right here.
Whenever she's gone, she's likeFaceTiming her or whatever.
And she's like I got a surprisefor you, portal gun.
Portal gun gets from her dormto Lilo's room.
If that's the case, bitch, youcould have stayed at home and
did the same shit to get toclass.
You didn't have to leave her.
You didn't have to leave her todo the same shit.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And if you take away portal gun.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
If you take away the fucking ridiculousness of the
portal gun, let's just saythey're like sorry, we can't
leave this tech here at home.
They take care at home.
They just take it.
She doesn't go back home tovisit her bro, that's a wrap.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
That's literally the only thing that's like.
That would be it.
Ohana means goodbye girl.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Ohana means aloha, hello, hello and goodbye.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It was crazy but anyway, that's my beef man I'm
like, I think had they followedthe direction of the how to
Train your Dragon guy.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Give me the same film .
You can.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You can expand oh, he said in one of the interviews
they didn't even reach out tohim they didn't even ask him,
they didn't even ask him, bro,you know that's one thing about
these live actions is like theyshould at least like okay, if
not call him to direct the liveaction, at least like hey, let's
bring in him as a consultant.
He's like hey, what do youthink of this story?
Yes, yeah hey, what do youthink these changes could work?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Disney is struggling so bad they pulled one of their
old employees out of retirement,right X-Fur.
Yeah, the homeboy that did.
Like All the original Disneycartoons, all like the badass
ones, bro, like Aladdin Herculesand like several other ones.
Bro, he came back specificallyto help guide the next
generation of creators Gators,save Disney.
Basically save Disney dog, yeahCrazy.
(14:40):
And you know the stupid money,bro, that they gave him just to
come back out of retirement.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
What is the next live action?
I think Hercules has amonophagy in the next live
action.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh, Danny DeVito's supposed to be coming back for
that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh, I like that, I got three words.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I quit.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I heard somebody broke that down, that in Old Mid
it was two words.
I was two words like I quit,like I got.
What does it go?
I have three words.
I quit right, but in greek it'ssupposed to be like three words
, like three words for sure yeah, that's more joke.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, it's like a liver's joke, hercules.
Hercules is one of my favoriteones.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
That's the thing like it's not so much as like I
think it's like cheap for disneyor any studio that just like
what is, popular, movies thatpeople would, you know, rinse
and repeat, recycle becausethey're gonna go pay the movie
like we're gonna go watch it.
That's the thing, is like it.
It deviates from when, the backin the day, when, like
hollywood took a risk like liveaction, the mask like, and the
thing is like a good example.
(15:33):
But it's like it's not so muchthe plot, but like you gotta get
the right actor because jimcarrey carried that bro.
To this day, like 30, 40 yearslater, cameron Diaz in that film
has never been the same dogNever been the same.
It's just stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's like I just wish that y'all took risk on live
action again, especially becausethe Mask is based on a graphic
novel and in the graphic novelthe Mask is a serial killer.
It's a horror graphic novel andnovel.
Damask is a serial killer, soyeah, it's a horror graphic
novel, and then they brought injim carrey and turned into a
comedy.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, that's a risk that's a big ass risk because it
like but it worked yeah, yeahthat's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But you know, I don't think that's what they're doing
with the new live actions likeno having the sister leave her
behind.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't think that's a risk, I think that's just them
sabotage I feel like that'sDisney promoting the separate
family like narrative bro, likeah, it's okay bro, we don't have
to be together, like we'retogether in our hearts.
But Disney was all aboutfucking family, bro.
Those films all revolved aroundthe child, simba, simba and his
dad.
It was a great fatherhood, am Iright?
And then they made Mufasa.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You had to take some Mufasa brother brother, that's
another live action, don't say Ithink about my brother.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
How does the song go?
I just can't wait to be king,that was Gar's song.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Is that what you're telling me?
That was the song.
It means no worries for therest of your days, rememorable
songs.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
30 years later, motherfuckers, that's what it is
.
I can't tell you a single songfrom that movie From Mufasa
there were more songs there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
When they redid it, Whoa they have the.
Don't say that thing about mybrother.
I never saw it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I never saw it, but I know there's that one song by
Leonel Miranda.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, for sure.
So anyway, because we can'tremember any of the lines.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
For me, the live action Lion King wasn't that bad
.
Some people liked it, somepeople didn't like it.
The people that watched theoriginal didn't like the live
action.
But if you don't remember theoriginal and you watch the
live-action Lion King, oh it'sgreat.
It's great, yeah, absolutely.
The live-action Lion King isone of those movies where if you
don't know the originalmaterial, it's actually not a
(17:48):
bad movie.
But if you know the originalLion King, the live-action
doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, you know what I hate that they're doing.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Disney is just recycling 30 years of film now
but instead of pandering to us,they're pandering to our kids,
which is tiktok youtubers, eventhe jungle book one like I was
excited for uh, bill murray toplay uh, and yeah, it was nice,
it's for the bare necessities,the simple, because I just
mentioned at some point it'slike how is it gonna make profit
(18:15):
?
because, like, they make nomoney, pretty much, and just us
watching the classics, becausethat's what they are, the
classics, you know.
But it's just, you can recreateoriginals, for example, like
Peter Pan, like you want to gobye-bye bar but you have movies
like Hook you get what I'msaying, like that's just
beautiful.
You know, it is the story ofPeter Pan, but a different place
, peter Pan growing up.
(18:36):
You know.
As to the mitos, you know,rufio, rufio you know, I chanted
that at my song.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, I mean, I do like those takes, those live
action takes where, like it's uh, it's not the story about
bitter bread anymore.
Somebody else's story.
Yeah, they're winning the food.
Live action uh, oh, that's agreat one, christopher robin,
christopher robin, yeah, he'sall grown up action.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Oh, that's a great one, christopher Robin.
Christopher Robin, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He's old, growing up and he comes back, that's a
great one.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's a great one.
Did you guys even know what thepremise of the movie was?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I've seen clips.
I asked one of my coworkerswhich one he lost his
imagination.
Yeah, that's all it is, I guess.
No, it was.
It was nice.
You can't knock it until youwatch it.
That's true.
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But you enjoyed it.
I mean it was nice, it wasWinnie Pooh, Winnie Pooh verse,
it's just like you know, forlike three, four year olds, you
know.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And the donkey Igor floating down the river.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Contemplating about.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, but yeah, so okay, but okay.
Look what was the originalstory of Winnie the Pooh, though
, see, they didn't have a movie.
All they had were TV shows.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
They had that weird movie where they're like cowboys
or something.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
That was one of my favorite movies as a kid.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I watched the one about the elephant one like a
hundred times when I was mylittle niece.
But I mean, okay, they madestraight-to-VHS moviesx straight
to A-Track.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They made all those, which was great, but big theater
movies they didn't have one.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So because of that we don't hold them to a stigma
like we do.
How to Train your Dragon Lion.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
King.
Fair enough, so they could justtell a story of them doing shit
.
It's the big releases that wekind of like, those become the
classics yeah, those areclassics like Mulan, you know,
oh, your.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Oh, your shirt.
Your shirt's a perfect examplethe Gundam we left.
Would you consider the liveaction one with the Netflix one?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
No, that wouldn't be live action.
There hasn't been a live actionGundam yet, but it's coming.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I did hear they're in the works for that it's coming
to Netflix I thought it was theone we saw, the one we're live.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
That was hyper realistic doneon the what's that engine called
the unreal engine okay, sodon't count for live action it's
still CGI it's playstationgraphics they look good so you
need a physical human there tomake it count.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
so Lion King didn't count.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Lion King is hyper realism, because that's what
you're telling me.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Or did they motion capture them?
Was the person really there?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Let us know in the comments, ladies and gentlemen,
Because I.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They have real backgrounds.
Adam Neary is the sir.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
They have real backgrounds, they have real sets
.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Like locations, I guess Did they actually Okay, I
don't know.
I don't know either, they couldbe using like that spear thing
that they shoot, I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Stitch is not real.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
But it's a human.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'm just separating the hyperrealism boundary with
the live action.
Because look well, because thenhow to drink a toothless is not
there but that's what I'msaying, yeah transformers, bro,
but you know there are peoplethere, so that's furious, like
obviously but look if theymotion capture them, bro that
counts, because in this storythere's humans, and humans are
(22:01):
just animated.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Uh, what were we talking about just before that?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
a live action oh mulan.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What disney did with Mulan?
They tried to take away all themagic out of it.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
There's no.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Mushu, but for some reason there's a witch that
could turn into a crow.
What If we're going to havemagic in a movie anyway, why not
?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
keep it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The idea was like let's take away all the magic
and then we put a fucking witchin it.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Whatever, Whatever the magic, nah, and then we put
a fucking witch in it.
Whatever, bro, whatever, don'teven get me started.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Ancestors give my friend.
Oh, they took away all themusic.
Shame on you.
They took away all the music.
There's honor on you.
There's honor on your cow.
That's it, bro.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That was.
But was there a cute characterlike in Mulan?
Because normally they had thecricket and they had Mushu.
That's what they used to selltoys, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And the horse.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Their live action was like they wanted to be real.
They wanted to tell a story.
They took away all the music,they took away all the magic,
except for having the witch.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Were the homeboys still in three drag at the end.
Were the three samurais.
Remember that she made friendswith drag, remember in the movie
.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, so they entered the into the castle, they all
dressed as ugly girls.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yes, but did they do the live actions?
I never saw it.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I'm boycotting all live action, so you don't
remember I watched it once and Iwas like, yeah, like I said,
super forgettable ladies andgentlemen, unfortunately, disney
just needs to do what how totrain your dragon did from what
I'm seeing, bro, everybody likesit.
I haven't seen a negative thingabout it, certified fresh,
certified fresh for a live guesswhat Same?
For the most part, same movie,with some expansions, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And the thing is that's a pro and a con, but it's
not.
It's not like big enough of acon, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, absolutely Sookie, who was your favorite
live action?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I want to hear your two cents on Lion King.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
We're gonna talk about a couple live action
movies that we checked outlately how to Train your Dragon,
lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Ohana and we're going to.
I was going to say, whichapparently doesn't mean much for
anything nowadays, but a coupleof things changed, a couple of
things didn't.
Let's break it down.
We're going to go in and giveour two cents on live actions
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The people deserve.
Starting light camera, twocamera one.
Low key though I can't wait forthe Fast and Furious live
action, though Like that will betight, bro Bro shut the fuck up
.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The anime is actually going to be great.
Dog Shut up, bro.
I haven't heard this other dudein the 11th film.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Live action.
Bro would be crazy, bro, shutup bro.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I want to know if you know.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Anime Vin Diesel with anime fucking Decepticons would
be badass.
Well, they did already have ananimated series on Netflix
called Spy Race here.
Oh, you did say that.
How did that do I never watchedit?
Perfect.
But Vin Diesel is basicallylike his nephew, and a bunch of
kids go around saying oh, that'sAmerican animation.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Or anime, though the difference American animation
See.
I went to the anime version.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's the square one .
They got like square fingersand like triangle elbows.
I hate that style.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
The dot charger is very square.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't know why they do that.
I mean, I guess I think it'sjust, like you know, trying to
be fast, you know.
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So do I, and I'm sure thecreators are like really happy.
Like they, they put all theselayers in the in their
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Don't trust the government.
Economics All of it, bro.
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Freedom.
Yeah, that's like the mostAmerican and at the end of the
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But the themes are there.
The themes are there where youcould like read a lot into it
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yes, there's the sprinkle all towards absolutely,
absolutely Nope.
Anyways, let's talk about liveactions.
You want to start?
Should I start?
You want to roll the die?
I'm going to go dark.
You're going to go dark.
Okay, let me go light first,okay.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Please.
Yeah, I'm going to dark bro.
Chill, Not like in a bad way.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm going to do negative comments first.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Okay, let me first.
I watched how to Train yourDragon just like a couple of
days ago and let me tell you I'ma big how to Train your Dragon
fan.
But when did how to Train yourDragon come out, suki?
10 years ago, you said 10 yearsago.
I think it came out in 2007,2008.
And the thing about theoriginal how to Train your
Dragon.
I wasn't a kid.
Yeah, I was grown up.
(05:41):
I was in high school.
But I was younger, so muchyounger than today, but I really
liked the original, like Iwatched it and I really liked it
and I remember I bought thespecial edition back when
blu-rays were a thing it stillholds up, bro, it still holds up
it had emotion.
It had like kind of like.
It had some mature themes in it.
Yes, and the whole idea of likegetting a dragon.
(06:03):
I thought it was really cool.
So it wasn't like I was a kidwhen I watched the original.
I was a high school teenagerbut still I remember like
getting really high and going towatch it and I was like flying
with dragons could you imagine4d with that?
I'll stop bro.
I watched it in 4d, that'sright when that scene came out.
Test flight whenever he like,finally tests flies over the
(06:24):
front, yeah.
The fucking 4D seats go off.
That's dope.
Dang and the final battle inthose seats just like his mother
.
And you uh freaking um.
Toothless spits out a hiccupand water comes out the seat.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh dude.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So you get hit by the spit.
I thought the live action wasgreat.
My honest review is that itholds up Like it's.
In a lot of parts it's framefor frame, basically like 80% of
the movie is exactly frame forframe what the animated was.
And here's my thing.
I don't think there's nothingwrong with that.
Like a lot of people are sayinglike, well, it should be
(06:59):
something different, and I'mlike, well, no, I mean, I like
that it sticks to the originalformula.
But like I just want to see theoriginal animated in live
action, I want to see a coupleof changes here and there and
like add some to the story.
But if it's the same story,there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So and translating to live action, it keeps a lot of
the emotion it keeps.
It's really emotional movie, soit keeps a lot of emotion.
And Gerald Butler, who voicesStoic in the original, gets
brought back for the live actionand he does such a great job
and he gets a lot of extra lines.
You know yeah yeah, becauseit's Jared Butler.
Why wouldn't you give him extralines?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, you're going to have to.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The dragons look great.
Toothless is the only one thatlooks kind of like a lot
cartoonish, but that's becausehe's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's like Sonic.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They kept him.
They kept him with the big eyesand big mouth.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
They just made him bigger size, just kill him
bigger.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, basically, and the other dragons they like make
the eyes smaller, like you know, lizards or reptiles.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So they make the eyes smaller, so they kind of look
like dinosaurs really, butToothless keeps the big eyes
because he needs to emote,basically mode, basically yeah,
yeah, they're like if you makehis eyes small, then he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know, you don't see his emotions, right?
Yeah, I was thinking when hesaid that I was like, oh, it's
like spider-man, now that he hashis suit with the eyes move, he
can emote so much more dead.
When he has his eyes that move,they move.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, you know, they make it better if he gets, you
know, chameleon eyes or reptileeyes, then we don't get to see
the.
Yeah, he's just a dragon.
That's the only reason thathe's the only dragon that gets
to keep.
But the whole oh, astrid,astrid, played by Nico Parker.
A lot of people were upsetabout the casting, but she
actually does a great job.
She is Astrid and she's the onethat actually gets more lines
(08:36):
in the movie than the otherversion.
I think she gets a little bitmore of agency.
Basically, Cool man, she does agreat job.
The guy that plays Hcup I meanhe's hiccup, but I mean hiccup
doesn't.
I mean, it's just a funnycharacter, you know yeah, this
is a first movie.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Uh, director who did the animated is now doing the
live action as well, yes, theyactually brought the same
director, director that did thefirst movie they brought him
back.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It doesn't make sense why they wouldn't have done
that for all of them, though bro, it's like a no-brainer.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's like, well, bring back the creator of it why
wouldn't, you just bring backthe same director.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
He obviously understood the vision, because
he made you a fucking hit youknow what I'm saying.
But what do I know?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
um sounds like the director of how to train your
dragon is also the director oflilo and stitch the animated
version.
The animated version animatedversion oh um, after you know,
it was a couple years afterlittle and stitch that he was uh
brought on the project for howto trade your dragon correct.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So his big hit was lilo and stitch, which was an
amazing film.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
People loved it it got a live action made out of it
.
Surprisingly enough, I didn'tthink to be honest, I didn't
think that was the next.
You know, I feel like there'smore popular titles to bring up
before Lilo and Stitch.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yes, Maybe that's why .
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But I mean it was really popular with the girls.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Lilo and Stitch is hot right now.
For kids Like Lilo and Stitch,anything sells lilo, it can just
be stitched.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
So if you watch lilo and stitch the cartoon, bro,
there's lilo's hilarious, butshe's bad as fuck though, bro,
that other, that movie, bro,she's bad as oh, she's a bad kid
, yeah, she's bad.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
She's getting in constant fights all kinds of
talking shit, all kinds of stuffthat happens with her in that
movie, bro she talks a lot ofshit to her sister.
Yeah, she does so they go backand forth a lot of whatever
that's what he leaves there likedrowsy Damn.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't know how to see the movie.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, here's my thing .
I liked the film a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
However, the original or the live action.
The live action, I had three.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You liked the live action, I had three, almost
three tearjerker moments in thelive action.
Oh, there were two scenes,though, that ruined it for me
when he paid the popcorn to.
I couldn't even tell you whatthey wore because they were very
forgettable, but I rememberlike watching, I'm like wow,
this was actually pretty good.
I like what they were doinghere.
This actually seemed good.
And then the narrative, like Isaid, lilo has her.
Her big speech of ohana meansfamily.
(10:52):
Family means we stay together.
Nobody gets left behind.
Her sister, nami nani, turnsright around and is like fuck
you, boo-hoo.
Basically like we did get left.
Deal with it Like dog.
She's like six, like that'sreally fucked up to say to a
six-year-old.
I don't care how old you are,how pissed off you are at the
world, Like you know.
And it's crazy because if youwatch the animated series and
(11:15):
the fucking the animated runthat they had on Disney for a
short duration of time, Becausethey didn't have a sequel.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
like little TV series , they had a TV series.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So with that series it's all about them being
together, them being family, andthey adopt more Lilo-style
aliens, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yes, and the main black guy, that's right.
They have the other.
Yeah, the other stitches thatcome into play or whatever.
And again, they already showeda couple of them in the movie,
so I think that already set itup for the sequel.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
They didn't have the big dishes, the big cop the big
cop and he wasn't there thegiant bounty hunter was not
there oh, it's weird because hewas the main villain he was
turning to the main villain, thedad the remember the purple
professor yes, he's like now thevillain, which doesn't make any
sense I don't think it would itdoesn't, man, it really really
(11:59):
doesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I don't like that part about it but I'm like, eh,
okay, I can still push past thatbecause, guess what?
The best part of the movie thelittle girl who played Lilo
adorable, Fucking cute as shitLike cute kid.
She sells it Stitch.
Best part of the movie bro,Live action, animated, doesn't
matter His character just worksto my family.
yeah, he does the same thing.
He does the same.
He does a good job at it likeit's the same animated ending,
(12:35):
like from the from the movie,right from the animated film.
It's the exact same in theending, except nami's like okay,
I'm gonna make the harddecision and I have to leave
damn that's what I heard.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I didn't go and watch it, but that's what I heard.
And, like in the live action,the sister leaves her behind so
she leaves her behind.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
The way she justifies it, though, is by she, instead
of just going into the system offoster care or whatever she
gets, given over to theneighbors who quote unquote
raised her like family, so inthat sense, she's still, with
quote unquote, family.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
But I mean that kind of takes away everything that
the movie.
That's what the hell movie?
That's what the movie's tryingto do.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
This is what pissed me off.
This is the other part thatmade me mad.
One not only was it the fuckyou do her face, it was this one
right here.
Whenever she's gone, she's likeFaceTiming her or whatever.
And she's like I got a surprisefor you, portal gun.
Portal gun gets from her dormto Lilo's room.
If that's the case, bitch, youcould have stayed at home and
did the same shit to get toclass.
You didn't have to leave her.
You didn't have to leave her todo the same shit.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
And if you take away portal gun.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
If you take away the fucking ridiculousness of the
portal gun, let's just saythey're like sorry, we can't
leave this tech here at home.
They take care at home.
They just take it.
She doesn't go back home tovisit her bro, that's a wrap.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
That's literally the only thing that's like.
That would be it.
Ohana means goodbye girl.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Ohana means aloha, hello, hello and goodbye.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It was crazy but anyway, that's my beef man I'm
like, I think had they followedthe direction of the how to
Train your Dragon guy.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Give me the same film .
You can.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You can expand oh, he said in one of the interviews
they didn't even reach out tohim they didn't even ask him,
they didn't even ask him, bro,you know that's one thing about
these live actions is like theyshould at least like okay, if
not call him to direct the liveaction, at least like hey, let's
bring in him as a consultant.
He's like hey, what do youthink of this story?
Yes, yeah hey, what do youthink these changes could work?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Disney is struggling so bad they pulled one of their
old employees out of retirement,right X-Fur.
Yeah, the homeboy that did.
Like All the original Disneycartoons, all like the badass
ones, bro, like Aladdin Herculesand like several other ones.
Bro, he came back specificallyto help guide the next
generation of creators Gators,save Disney.
Basically save Disney dog, yeahCrazy.
(14:40):
And you know the stupid money,bro, that they gave him just to
come back out of retirement.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
What is the next live action?
I think Hercules has amonophagy in the next live
action.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh, Danny DeVito's supposed to be coming back for
that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh, I like that, I got three words.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I quit.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I heard somebody broke that down, that in Old Mid
it was two words.
I was two words like I quit,like I got.
What does it go?
I have three words.
I quit right, but in greek it'ssupposed to be like three words
, like three words for sure yeah, that's more joke.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, it's like a liver's joke, hercules.
Hercules is one of my favoriteones.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
That's the thing like it's not so much as like I
think it's like cheap for disneyor any studio that just like
what is, popular, movies thatpeople would, you know, rinse
and repeat, recycle becausethey're gonna go pay the movie
like we're gonna go watch it.
That's the thing, is like it.
It deviates from when, the backin the day, when, like
hollywood took a risk like liveaction, the mask like, and the
thing is like a good example.
(15:33):
But it's like it's not so muchthe plot, but like you gotta get
the right actor because jimcarrey carried that bro.
To this day, like 30, 40 yearslater, cameron Diaz in that film
has never been the same dogNever been the same.
It's just stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's like I just wish that y'all took risk on live
action again, especially becausethe Mask is based on a graphic
novel and in the graphic novelthe Mask is a serial killer.
It's a horror graphic novel andnovel.
Damask is a serial killer, soyeah, it's a horror graphic
novel, and then they brought injim carrey and turned into a
comedy.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, that's a risk that's a big ass risk because it
like but it worked yeah, yeahthat's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But you know, I don't think that's what they're doing
with the new live actions likeno having the sister leave her
behind.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't think that's a risk, I think that's just them
sabotage I feel like that'sDisney promoting the separate
family like narrative bro, likeah, it's okay bro, we don't have
to be together, like we'retogether in our hearts.
But Disney was all aboutfucking family, bro.
Those films all revolved aroundthe child, simba, simba and his
dad.
It was a great fatherhood, am Iright?
And then they made Mufasa.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
You had to take some Mufasa brother brother, that's
another live action, don't say Ithink about my brother.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
How does the song go?
I just can't wait to be king,that was Gar's song.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Is that what you're telling me?
That was the song.
It means no worries for therest of your days, rememorable
songs.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
30 years later, motherfuckers, that's what it is
.
I can't tell you a single songfrom that movie From Mufasa
there were more songs there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
When they redid it, Whoa they have the.
Don't say that thing about mybrother.
I never saw it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I never saw it, but I know there's that one song by
Leonel Miranda.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, for sure.
So anyway, because we can'tremember any of the lines.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
For me, the live action Lion King wasn't that bad
.
Some people liked it, somepeople didn't like it.
The people that watched theoriginal didn't like the live
action.
But if you don't remember theoriginal and you watch the
live-action Lion King, oh it'sgreat.
It's great, yeah, absolutely.
The live-action Lion King isone of those movies where if you
don't know the originalmaterial, it's actually not a
(17:48):
bad movie.
But if you know the originalLion King, the live-action
doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, you know what I hate that they're doing.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Disney is just recycling 30 years of film now
but instead of pandering to us,they're pandering to our kids,
which is tiktok youtubers, eventhe jungle book one like I was
excited for uh, bill murray toplay uh, and yeah, it was nice,
it's for the bare necessities,the simple, because I just
mentioned at some point it'slike how is it gonna make profit
(18:15):
?
because, like, they make nomoney, pretty much, and just us
watching the classics, becausethat's what they are, the
classics, you know.
But it's just, you can recreateoriginals, for example, like
Peter Pan, like you want to gobye-bye bar but you have movies
like Hook you get what I'msaying, like that's just
beautiful.
You know, it is the story ofPeter Pan, but a different place
, peter Pan growing up.
(18:36):
You know.
As to the mitos, you know,rufio, rufio you know, I chanted
that at my song.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, I mean, I do like those takes, those live
action takes where, like it's uh, it's not the story about
bitter bread anymore.
Somebody else's story.
Yeah, they're winning the food.
Live action uh, oh, that's agreat one, christopher robin,
christopher robin, yeah, he'sall grown up action.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Oh, that's a great one, christopher Robin.
Christopher Robin, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He's old, growing up and he comes back, that's a
great one.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's a great one.
Did you guys even know what thepremise of the movie was?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I've seen clips.
I asked one of my coworkerswhich one he lost his
imagination.
Yeah, that's all it is, I guess.
No, it was.
It was nice.
You can't knock it until youwatch it.
That's true.
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
But you enjoyed it.
I mean it was nice, it wasWinnie Pooh, Winnie Pooh verse,
it's just like you know, forlike three, four year olds, you
know.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And the donkey Igor floating down the river.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Contemplating about.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, but yeah, so okay, but okay.
Look what was the originalstory of Winnie the Pooh, though
, see, they didn't have a movie.
All they had were TV shows.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
They had that weird movie where they're like cowboys
or something.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
That was one of my favorite movies as a kid.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I watched the one about the elephant one like a
hundred times when I was mylittle niece.
But I mean, okay, they madestraight-to-VHS moviesx straight
to A-Track.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They made all those, which was great, but big theater
movies they didn't have one.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So because of that we don't hold them to a stigma
like we do.
How to Train your Dragon Lion.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
King.
Fair enough, so they could justtell a story of them doing shit
.
It's the big releases that wekind of like, those become the
classics yeah, those areclassics like Mulan, you know,
oh, your.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Oh, your shirt.
Your shirt's a perfect examplethe Gundam we left.
Would you consider the liveaction one with the Netflix one?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
No, that wouldn't be live action.
There hasn't been a live actionGundam yet, but it's coming.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I did hear they're in the works for that it's coming
to Netflix I thought it was theone we saw, the one we're live.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
No, I don't know what you're talking about.
That was hyper realistic doneon the what's that engine called
the unreal engine okay, sodon't count for live action it's
still CGI it's playstationgraphics they look good so you
need a physical human there tomake it count.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
so Lion King didn't count.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Lion King is hyper realism, because that's what
you're telling me.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Or did they motion capture them?
Was the person really there?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Let us know in the comments, ladies and gentlemen,
Because I.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
They have real backgrounds.
Adam Neary is the sir.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
They have real backgrounds, they have real sets
.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Like locations, I guess Did they actually Okay, I
don't know.
I don't know either, they couldbe using like that spear thing
that they shoot, I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Stitch is not real.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
But it's a human.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'm just separating the hyperrealism boundary with
the live action.
Because look well, because thenhow to drink a toothless is not
there but that's what I'msaying, yeah transformers, bro,
but you know there are peoplethere, so that's furious, like
obviously but look if theymotion capture them, bro that
counts, because in this storythere's humans, and humans are
(22:01):
just animated.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Uh, what were we talking about just before that?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
a live action oh mulan.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
What disney did with Mulan?
They tried to take away all themagic out of it.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
There's no.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Mushu, but for some reason there's a witch that
could turn into a crow.
What If we're going to havemagic in a movie anyway, why not
?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
keep it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The idea was like let's take away all the magic
and then we put a fucking witchin it.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Whatever, Whatever the magic, nah, and then we put
a fucking witch in it.
Whatever, bro, whatever, don'teven get me started.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Ancestors give my friend.
Oh, they took away all themusic.
Shame on you.
They took away all the music.
There's honor on you.
There's honor on your cow.
That's it, bro.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That was.
But was there a cute characterlike in Mulan?
Because normally they had thecricket and they had Mushu.
That's what they used to selltoys, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And the horse.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Their live action was like they wanted to be real.
They wanted to tell a story.
They took away all the music,they took away all the magic,
except for having the witch.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Were the homeboys still in three drag at the end.
Were the three samurais.
Remember that she made friendswith drag, remember in the movie
.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, so they entered the into the castle, they all
dressed as ugly girls.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yes, but did they do the live actions?
I never saw it.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I'm boycotting all live action, so you don't
remember I watched it once and Iwas like, yeah, like I said,
super forgettable ladies andgentlemen, unfortunately, disney
just needs to do what how totrain your dragon did from what
I'm seeing, bro, everybody likesit.
I haven't seen a negative thingabout it, certified fresh,
certified fresh for a live guesswhat Same?
For the most part, same movie,with some expansions, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And the thing is that's a pro and a con, but it's
not.
It's not like big enough of acon, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, absolutely Sookie, who was your favorite
live action?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I want to hear your two cents on Lion King.
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