August 22, 2025 • 36 mins
The WBM Podcast returns from their summer break to dive into recent superhero films, comparing Superman's triumphant box office sales to Fantastic Four's disappointing delivery while they also speculate on Spider-Man's future in the MCU.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Teller, merc Guys, do we have a special episode for
you today?
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That's right, y'all, we do a little virtual meeting
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, we're doing remote training.
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That's right, y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Welcome to the sit-down.
That's right, y'all.
What are we talking about today, fellas?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Bro, how motherfuckers at McDonald's
demand 27 an hour and they stillget my order wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yep, damn, you always forget to catch up, bro, I
literally said no pickles, Likewhy would you get them, bro?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Extra pickles.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I said All right, and we're also going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I want to talk about the Fantastic Four and the fact
that Freaky Friday was better.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh damn Good topic.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Freaky Friday is a better film.
Anything for Jamie Lee Curtisbro.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
And last but not least, Strip Club Bad Stories.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
That's right y'all.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, we're going to keep it 100.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Let's get going, let's go.
Uh, welcome back, welcome back.
Welcome back to another episodeof the wbm cup podcast, aka
witty banter.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah that's right, we're right.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Go back by the way we we've been missing.
We've been missing for like along time.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Summer break, man.
The audience knows.
The audience knows that afterComic Palooza it's over, we're
not for the summer, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
The audience doesn't know that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
They gotta know that we gotta go on vacation, we
gotta do shit.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
We're gonna do nothing, why's?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
drinking.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Like I said, he's on board.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We're not doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Why are y'all lying?
Why are y'all lying to the fans?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
This guy's been out for four weeks X-Fur.
He's like, bro, everything'sbeen chill.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Not doing a damn thing, but I feel good to be
back, I feel good to be back,honestly.
So yeah, we're back now fromhere and out to the fall.
And then, you know, christmasbreak.
I mean, come on, before youfive, you're doing this.
Come on, y'all, Y'all alreadyknow.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's what we say.
You say that now.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You won't see us for another.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
This episode, you won't see us for another three
months.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But it's going to be a good one.
Ladies and gentlemen, we'regoing to make you laugh on this
one.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's right y'all?
No, I was just joking about myMcDonald's rant.
I mean I did write it where yougot it.
I mean I got the order, butcome on bro.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, no, bro, I said and it's small Sprite.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And they're like oh, the thing about McDonald's and
me and Merc have spoken aboutthis in length you don't go to
the McDonald's in the suburbs.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But every machine's broken, bro, fucking, I want to
shake all the time and likethere's some people I don't know
the other great shake, likeMcDonald's shake.
I could put crack on it bro.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, I get McFlurry goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I think McFlurry does go a long way.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all American bro, allAmerican like Superman bro.
Yes, this is my transition.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
This is my.
There goes my transition.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Watch it as it goes.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I know we didn't Merck didn't see Superman, but
honestly it's a great movie.
Honestly, all I can say it'sreally much like A Superman
episode Of cartoons.
You've seen the cartoons, Right, Mark?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah.
It very much felt like JusticeLeague, specifically Justice
League Unlimited, specificallythe cartoon, the animated series
, the animated series.
That was like Within the BruceTimm multiverse.
Yeah, Brought the Batman theanimated series and Superman the
animated series into justiceleague, and then they had a
sequel, which was justice leagueunlimited.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, and this is your non-spoiler review, because
it is much like a cartoon.
Like you don't know who thesesuperheroes are, like Guy
Gardner, uh, mr T.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm God damn, mr Terrific, I'm Mr Terrific, I'm
Mr Terrific.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I'm goddamn Mr Terrific.
I'm Mr Terrific.
No, he didn't say that, but atthe end it just like the
cartoons.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well, it expects you, you know the thing is, it
expects you to know who thesepeople are, like it's not going
to do any hand-holding, it'slike, hey, you sure already know
these characters.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
If you don't, mark.
I mean, I told my parents mymom doesn't know who is Guy
Gardner and you know my dad hasan idea who's the Green Lantern.
So he was like, is that theGreen Lantern?
He thought that was cool, butfor the most part it was like
they just enjoyed it.
They're heroes doing hero shit.
You know there is a monster,there is a kaiju, you see it in
(05:05):
the yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know like, oh, the boss is about to squish me.
But you know like, oh, I'mSuperman, he could have done
this like.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
This is exaggeration.
I don't know why he was like.
Oh, because he he could be like, if you want to, no like in
cartoons yeah, because he holdshimself back, so he's used to
holding himself back you know.
Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, likebecause he like when.
Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like when the kaju the snideshow a little bit like.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, when the kaju falls, Superman's trying to hold
the kaju up, because if he,like you know, if he doesn't
hold himself back, he would justlike blow up the kaju, you know
.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, is that the logic behind it?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, because Superman's always holding
himself back.
It's like that moment thathappened in Justice League
Unlimited or Justice League, thefirst animated series, when
they fight Darkseid and Supermangoes.
He gives that whole speech.
He's like you don't understandhow hard it is to always be
holding myself back.
And then he goes off onDarkseid.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Perfect.
Perfect, Because you can takeit, can't you.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Oh, shit we're gone right.
That's true plug it plug inthat speech here for the tiktok
animation.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't mean to go anime, but like I do like how,
like some anime, take theconcepts of superman, for
example, one punch, becausesuperman could do that in theory
, the things that were, forexample, like I know, I just
want like that to the camera butin theory, like superman could
flick so hard and cause like asonic explosion that can take
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down, like buildings, you knowlike, or in theory, like, fly so
fast, you know, go 360 aroundthe earth and punch Darkseid in
the balls, you know, like hespins the planet so fast.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
He actually did that once.
I think it's in one of thecomics.
He could go 360 around theworld fast enough counter
rotation to turn back time forlike 24 hours 24 hours.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
He could do a whole 24 hours.
I just remember being in thatone movie with Christopher
Reeves where he can go back forlike 5 minutes.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, he goes 360 around the world counter
rotation.
How did that turn back time?
I don't fucking know.
It's comics, am I right?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Is that the comics or was that the movie?
When we first saw that, when hewent back in time, was it the
movie or the comics?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That sounds like some JoJo logic, bro.
I feel like JoJo.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That comes from the comics.
That comes from the comics Himlike 360 around the world in
counter rotation and turningback time one day.
That's from the comics.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That is literally the most recent, or not, yeah, the
most recent animated JoJo.
That's the way that shit ended,bro.
We're winding time.
We're fast forwarding to theplanet of the Earth.
Straight ripoff from Superman,they said that's wild.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I mean, if you think about it, it's physics, so the
quantum mechanics, the way tobreak it down, I'm fucking with
y'all, I don't fucking know, Iwas like, as soon as you said
the way the quantum mechanicsare.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's the thing that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Oh yeah, you're talking just to research quantum
physics, like you're fuckingdowntime.
Is that what that is?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So the thing is like, from what I'm understanding,
I've had you for a second,though I know Hold on, break it
down.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Break it down, loco.
Hold on, break it down, loco,because the Earth spins around
the sun.
Right, this guy flew so fuckinghard he was able to pull back
an entire solar system to aspecific spot in the cosmos.
If you think about it, if he'snot able to spin Earth clockwise
, he had to pull the entiregravitational pull of Jupiter
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and fucking Pluto.
We see only Earth, but if he'sable to do that, he's pulling
the entire fucking solar systemout of pure rage, that's true.
If it's Superman, then he's notholding back for one.
He's not holding back in hisflight.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, because the reason that it happened on that
storyline was because Louis Lanedied, so he had to turn back
time to save Louis.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I could be mistaken.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, that was the movie.
That's the movie.
It was like a bunch of rocks,you know like 70s style rocks.
You know it was fucking papermache.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It just made me laugh .
The way that he explained it,though, was like Saturn right,
and I was like, in my mind, I ammeeting with fly dynamite.
I was like how many letters arein Superman?
Hey, what's the Greek albumthat's planted?
Hey, Jupiter, hey Jupiter,that's what happens to be in the
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subterranean of what?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
The Greek god of war.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
War, that's immediately where I went.
Sorry, as long as it is theRoman god of war.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I did cry one more time how many letters are on war
, but war backwards, I thinkabout it because war, huh, what
is a good war?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
that means that literally is something and
nothing at the same time, andthat's the principles of quantum
mechanics.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That's true bro.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Which, in power from what I understand, is how
Richard Reed Richards figuredout it's paradoxical this is my
scientific Reed Richardstransition to the Fantastic Four
.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
There goes my hero.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So what was Fantastic Four, bro?
You just went a big time.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Wildly mediocre brother, and I don't think I
didn't even watch it, like I waskind of hyped for it.
But then it came out and I waslike whatever, like Superman, I
was super hyped to watch it.
I watched it.
I heard it from everybody thatit was good.
Fantastic was super hyped towatch it.
I watched it.
I heard it from everybody thatit was good.
Fantastic four.
I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And then the word of mouth came out and it was like
so for me I knew superman wasgood.
Whenever the movie came out andnobody made memes about the
actual movie, the film, the plot.
You know I'm saying if it's bad, people are gonna make fun of
it immediately.
The weekend after fantasticfour dropped, everybody was
poking at the fucking plot, bro,everybody was ragging on it in
certain ways and I was likethat's a good gauge.
(11:11):
Oh yeah, absolutely yeah.
I mean, if it's trash, thatnews spreads a whole lot quicker
than good news.
Does you know what I'm saying?
So like if it's good you'llknow Like you're like bro.
Have you heard anything aboutit?
You're like no, I heard it wasgood, though it's like one
person said it was good andthat's all you needed to hear.
You know what I'm saying.
But uh, other ones that aresuper fucking hyped on the trash
(11:32):
immediately, like bro andstarbitch.
It's so overhyped, the plot isterrible, the animation's crap
trash.
There's no.
You know I'm saying likethere's always some pain about
it, so um, but as far as thisparticular movie went, there was
a family element.
My brother actually kind ofgave me a little bit more
leniency on it.
Like I said, I give it like a6.8 6.9, my favorite9 but it's
(11:57):
because he was like there werecertain scenes that happened in
the movie not spoilers, but itwas like a silver surfer scene
where they were in space.
There's a specific scene thathappens and you're like bro, you
did something that was dope andI was like no, no, no, no, cool
scene.
But the film as a whole for mewas like kind of lackluster.
You know what I'm saying?
The secret ending at the veryend was it seemed very cheap.
(12:20):
I'll be honest, cheap.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I'll be honest Was it Dune for real?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Dr Dune, right, robert Downey Jr.
You wouldn't even see him.
It's just a green cloak with ashitty kind of plastic mask.
It looks metallic, but you knowit's plastic, and he's just
kind of holding it in his handwhile he's reaching for the
child.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Do you see his face?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
It's the side.
He's kneeling down as if he'stalking to the kid boom and and,
like the invisible woman, walksup or whatever.
She's like franklin now.
Do you guys know why?
Franklin is such a huge deal,though, for this whole concept,
right?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
oh, because he's so p , he could like thank universes
to existence or out of existence.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
He can what's?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
What's the people Captain?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I don't know if that's ever going to work.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh, he's going to.
We're replacing them.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So, because in the comics there was a version of
Thor, iron man and CaptainAmerica Thor, iron man and
Captain America that allsacrificed themselves To take
out a big bad it was likeOnslaught or some shit like that
.
Right, they all died to killthis major villain.
Franklin Richards then createda pocket universe where he then
created the exact same duplicatecharacters from birth, flash
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forward their entire life in thepocket universe and they came
back as their exact same ageselves, but completely, of
course, healthy, walked throughthe portal that he then creates
for them and then pulls them outof that universe.
Obviously, it vanishes andthat's how they come back as
quote-unquote the same peopleFor this one.
If they did the exact samething for the MCU, where, hey,
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these guys sacrificed themselvesbut Franklin managed to make a
pocket universe.
Here's our younger, different,ultimate version of Ultimate
Captain America, ultimate Ironman.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh yeah, is that where Ultimate Marvel comes out?
And shit.
Ultimate Avengers, and shit.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It would be an easy segue if they did.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I could see it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I mean comics.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Am I right?
Am I?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
right, that character of Franklin Richards.
It's fucking broken, it's abroken character it's literally
like he's a character literallybelow.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
God.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yes, or rivalinging.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't see, like how he hasthat much power yeah, it's just
so like I'm going from the powercosmic.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That is the whole thing inside the film.
So it's like you know.
You don't see how they gettransformed just automatically,
like we're already superheroes.
We've been doing it for a whilenow, right, so that that cosmic
power could be anything fromthe phoenix force to the
beyonder, to, like you know, thebeyonders supposed to pass and
gas and the bitches you knowthey don't even explain it.
They don't even explain it alittle bit, no, they just have
(15:10):
the power and now this is achild born with the power cosmic
and again, even thatterminology is kind of something
that's like a marvel comic inmy thing, like the power cosmic
is a like entity, is a specifickind of power, and that's why
I'm like, okay, yeah, the lacticis hungry, he wants to eat the
kid and he's thinking that thekid will finally suffice his
hunger, his craving that's thewhole.
(15:30):
Thing but it's like sacrificingyour family for this one guy.
It's.
It's the ultimate question ofsacrificing someone for everyone
or everyone for you.
You know so, but uh, coolcharacter.
I'm excited to see where thatgoes.
But the film itself, like Isaid, I just was galactus, cool
was the villain cool.
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He was cool and he could go tolike grandiose size and he can.
I think he can make it somesmaller, but it he was cool.
I like Galactus' characterdesign, his voids, the damage
and everything like that wascool Was Silver Surfer a big
deal homegirl, or she was justthere for like two minutes.
She was there for about maybe 10, 15 minutes out of the entire
film.
Like I said, she has like herfive minutes where she's like
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chasing the Fantastic Four orwhatever.
I'll give her eight minutes,I'll say 20 minutes, entire film
.
She's there.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Did she surf, though?
Did she surf face?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, so that's the scene that I'm referring to.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I bring you Galactus.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think they showed it in the trailer already, but
they were like running throughor towards a black hole.
So you see, like the black holeand they're like surfing she's
surfing around the black holeand they're like surfing she's
surfing, you know, going aroundthe black hole and shit like
that.
That's like one of like the coolscenes I would say that my
brother was assigned to and Iwas like, oh yeah, that was,
that was a cool scene, you'reright, but again, I thought I
there was way more surfing thanthe first one, how about?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
that the silver surfer character gives away that
it's gonna be a pocket yeah, mybad, I was talking about this
one.
He gives it away that it's thePocky universe, the Silver
Surfer, because the SilverSurfer is not a girl, it's a
dude.
So, like that, gives it awaypretty much that there's gonna
be another galaxy where theycorrect the the plot of Silver
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Surfer.
Like I understand, she's thewife of Silver Surfer.
There are wife of Silver Surfer.
There are comics of SilverSurfer, lady girl, but the
Silver Surfer's a bald dude.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, no, bro, there's been multiple heralds.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
She's just an iteration of the Silver.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Surfer.
She's one of many, so sheeventually becomes an actual.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh, Thor becomes Silver Surfer 2 in the comics.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
He becomes a herald.
The Silver Surfer is,quote-unquote, a herald of.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Galactus yeah, anybody could be a herald of
Galactus.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
A herald, you're doomed.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
A herald Galactus Like anybody like, if you know
any character, if they reallywant to circum.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
He's right Love you, you know this whole time, you,
this whole time he's he'stalking.
I noticed that murk not oncetalked about like any act, like
any, any, any fantastic four.
Like this whole time that murkis talking he hasn't mentioned
oh, fucking the thing.
Did this?
Uh, mr fantastic did that.
(18:17):
Like you know, I could spoil asuperman for him.
You know I could spoil Supermanfor him and you know I try to
do non-spoilers, but that's onething.
That's how I know, that'ssomething that we made, because
this whole time he's beentalking he's not once mentioned
like a combo fight or combowombo League of Legends
reference.
No combo wombo, no wombo, combo,no combo, wombo.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Dude that's 4v1.
Not one dog.
It was crazy.
They did team up at one pointto take down Galactus.
It makes me laugh, because thefeat that she achieved, even for
me, I'm like damn, that's ahell of an upgrade.
Again, I don't pay attention tothe Fantastic Four too much,
but I don't know what herlimitation is For me in
comparison to what we saw likethe first.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Invisible.
Girl Invisible.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Woman.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Invisible Woman.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
My bad, my bad.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
She also serves face.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, she delivers phenomenal, like I said, like a
screen presence as far as like amom and stuff like that.
Her power scaling, like I said,was like a super power up.
All right, I got to give you aspoiler warning.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Oh yeah, I mean it's fine, All right so like she.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
She ends up pushing Galactus into the transportation
device they need to in order toget the fuck out of there.
Right, like the end of theuniverse or something like that.
For me, the original Invisible,invisible woman is based off of
Jessica Alba, and in the secondFantastic Four she was
struggling not to keep up withfucking Ferris wheel in English.
You know what I'm saying.
So now she somehow pushes a godlike being through this fucking
, and I thought she took likemultiple city blocks of
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futuristic old school New Yorklike solo dolo.
No fucking help.
The only thing the thing doesis like raise down the
foundation of the building sothe Galactus can't grab onto it,
but that's it.
It's fucking.
Just her bro, just her.
She does that shit but it costher her life and of course, the
baby gets put on her chest andhe brings her back to fucking
life.
That's like the power that justgoes to show his level of
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frankly, like he can.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He's pretty much level below god yeah, he's right
below god he can bring back thedead.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean it again for me he's going to be like the
next century.
We're never going to see himagain until like a pivotal
moment, whenever it fuckingmatters, and you'll be like oh
my God, I forgot.
Franklin can do this.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, because the characters are so broken.
Then again, there's been somany characters that have been
introduced that were supposed tobe broken and never brought
back.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Or if they nerf him like that, Like any sense, Like
why even introduce him in thefirst place?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Just before this, just before this, Thunderbolt
had a reference to FantasticFour at the very end of that
movie.
But from what I hear, itdoesn't even connect at all.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So they originally did beat Galactus' ass and then
they did beat.
They put him to the end of theuniverse.
But it doesn't mean that he'sgone.
It's very possible that somesort of event you know what do
we call it?
The incursions?
The incursions are probablygoing to fucking happen.
They're going to have to jump auniverse anyway and that's
what's going to bring him overto Earth.
What I also didn't like aboutthis version is Pedro Pascal is
(21:12):
a great actor.
I did him as Reed Richardsbecause Reed Richards is a very
intelligent person in the filmor always in the comic book
series, even in the originalfilms very, very smart guy.
Constantly in the film I heardthis motherfucker constantly say
I just don't know what to do.
I'm literally lost.
I have no idea where we're at.
I'm at my wit's end, I don'tknow, and I'm like this
(21:33):
motherfucker in the comics has acouncil of himself to figure
out damn near any problem in theuniverse.
He doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I was like You've seen Rick and Morty, right yeah,
does he solo Rick he?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
rivals.
Rick Easy in my mind.
If he doesn't solo, he woulddefinitely.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I just want to know the level of high intellect that
he is, because I know Rick sowill like.
Did he beat Rick?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Only because Rick has broken like fourth wall
continuity.
In my mind that's the onlyreason why he rivals Reed
Richards.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But if he hadn't done that.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I think Because even when, like, they see Deadpool do
his shit, they're like what thefuck are you doing?
You know what I'm saying?
Nobody understands that.
But like, if he would have dothat feed, I would have been
like oh shit, okay, differentfeed, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
because that's what it comes from.
The Council of Reed Richards ispretty much like a copy of the
Council of Reed Richards.
I mean, the Council of Reed isa copy of the Council of Reed
Richards, correct?
That's what it comes from, yeahand like.
Let me say frankly, in the readsabout this high level
cosmicness can shit out of theuniverse overnight and at first
I was like, well the fuck,what's the point of it?
(22:38):
But then I think about that.
It makes the other charactersmore grounded and more fun,
specifically spider-man.
Does he think about it?
Because reed richard is like, Imean, he can like, just, you
know, snap his fingers and thenthere's no more dr ock, there's
no more fucking, uh, vulture.
But then here comes spider-man,who was like I, I got a math
exam.
Fucking Scorpio is out theredoing shit.
(23:01):
I can't even study and thisbitch will shut the fuck up
about why I brought the wrongpizza.
Oh, but Harry and theStinkheads, I get it, you know,
it's relatable.
So it grounds like because it'sso cosmic and it's so out there
.
It grounds like my favoritecharacters.
Well, because, like Spider-Man,he's one of my favorite.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Marvel characters, if that makes sense.
True, because of the eventsthat are going to happen,
they're going to have to jumpuniverses.
In my mind, that sets up thenext film for them, but you know
that they're going to getbecause it's a Marvel fucking
movie.
They got a trilogy that theysigned up for immediately.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I saw the news that Pedro Pascal's role in Avengers
got cut down.
Got cut down.
He's no longer going to be astar Like.
He's going to be like a sidecharacter.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, he's more of a side, not lead as much as he was
.
Yeah, that's how much this filmaffected him, bro.
I'm telling you, it was not agood portrayal, unfortunately.
And you know, what's even worseIs that that he's getting the
backlash for the anxiety thingthat he's got.
You know what I'm saying, beingtouchy-feely with his wife
what's-her-face Kirby man?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
no, I don't think that's going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I mean it's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird, especiallyon TV and I'm like bro Shannon
Sharp is a warning.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's kind of weird, but then you see him with like
other other actresses and likeeverybody loves him.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
There's no actress out there that gets weirded out
by him have you seen, homegirl,that he plays in the Last of Us
with?
She loves him too yeah, theydon't be all handy on her,
though, why not?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
that's a child.
That's a child.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, I don't know how old she is.
I don't know how old she isshe's 16 you gotta grab on her
ass.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But like you don't ever see him like hugs up or
like fucking nothing, I don'tever see any physical contact
with him.
But you have social anxiety.
It's the exact same thing.
I'm like why does you havesocial anxiety?
It's the exact same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I'm like why does it's just because?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
that idiot.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
She's playing his wife and she's playing his
daughter.
Bro, you can't compare thosetwo.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean.
But she's married though, bro.
It's not like she's a singlechick who's, like you know, on
the market, Bro, he's gettinglike.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I mean, she's fine, she's fine she's not grabbing
ass, bro.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Hands on on the waist .
You know what I'm saying, bro?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
you didn't tell me what's up.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Eskimo kiss at the red cover mirror bro, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Sorry, I was anxious, yeah it's so forced.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
That's what I'm saying, though but like I'm,
just kidding brother Pascal.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Haley is so forced that's what I'm saying, though,
but like I'm not saying that,that's what I believe I'm not
saying.
I'm just saying that there arepeople out there who do believe
this about him, though becauseDoctor Doom is Fantastic Four's
main rival.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So if Pascal is taking the backseat, who's the
main guy?
Spider-man, obviously.
Tom Holland is going to carrythe franchise for the next 10
more years, bro.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He's the only one that could like, he's the only
one that would like be able tolike step forward as a big
character, like as a flagpolefor the team.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Ladies and gentlemen, we're getting a Spider-Man 4.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I did it all.
Spider-man 4 is happening.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It just started filming.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I used to put in times like these, bro.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That being said, after Avengers, and what was the
movie after Avengers?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Remasteria.
No way home.
It was the Dark Ops.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Far From Home.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
When it came out, I was excited about it because
Jake Gyllenhaal great actorgreat stereo great villain
character.
But if you look back now, farFrom Home was not a great movie,
it's okay, it's okay.
And then no Way Home, no WayHome, no Way Home was a what do
(26:49):
you call it Nostalgia.
It was a nostalgia trip.
Okay, tobey Maguire, andrewGarfield.
That's why we love it.
The next Spider-Man movie, bro,I don't think it's going to it.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Better, come with like a good story, bro, because
come on, I guess Homecoming iskind of forgettable if you think
about it now.
He was the part of Homecoming.
He got two seconds about it.
Now, he was a part ofHomecoming.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
He got two seconds.
All Homecoming did wasintroduce Spider-Man.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That I'm fucking out.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, he was trying to tag Batman's daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
He told you he was going to be Batman's daughter.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, bro, he was trying to tag Batman's daughter
because he was still a bird, bro.
He was still a bird.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
What was his status?
I know it.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And I remember he was under training of Tony Stark to
be a brand new hero because hehad the Iron man or the
Spider-Man.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, this whole Spider-Man movie.
They've been carried by otherstories.
I don't think that's important.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, all the prequels, if you think about it,
all three movies, all theprequels.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The third one, you're not wrong, see my thing about
that.
It makes me think of T-Pain'sthird album, three Rings.
There was a bunch of cameos, abunch of features.
He had great songs but KanyeWentz featured on that album,
ciara featured on that album,ludacris featured, chris Brown
featured I mean Musical Soul,mary J Blige, I mean so many
(28:08):
fucking dope ass features.
That happened and it was anamazing album.
But that took away from hiscredit.
People were like, oh, it's thefeatures that make the album,
it's the cameos, it's theadd-ons that people that make
the album.
So therefore, in that samesense, I think of if there
wasn't a Toby, you didn't tellme.
If only Andrew Garfield came up, it's a missed opportunity for
Toby.
Only Toby shows up.
It's a missed opportunity forAndrew.
(28:29):
Both of them have to show up.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
If they don't show up at all again.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's a missed opportunity for the franchise as
a whole.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, that's why you can take that movie out of the
continuity you know, especiallybecause at that point they were
still trying to figure out whatthe fuck the multiverse was.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
So the way they explained it that the Spider-Man
came to the main universe.
I mean it doesn't make a lot ofsense.
It's somehow connected.
You know, remember the randomanimals they had in the sky.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
They were like made of lightning or some shit, and
then Venom.
Venom had like the randomscenes, yeah it's Sony.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That was Sony not wanting to let go of Venom.
That's damn, just fuckingaround with the storyline.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And so, sony bro, come on.
You know, tom Hardy Disney, itwould have been a way different,
better story.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Ah, man, I hate that.
They fucking.
They still own the rights tothat dude, but I mean, like I
said, the fact that we're evengoing to get to it in.
Spider-man movies at allAgain've never gone beyond a
trilogy of any of our timelines,as far as I know of right now,
maybe the rest of the universewere fucking.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Technically, Tuffy McGuire got a four win.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Wait, you got 3.5.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, you can see one , two, three and then no way
home.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah bro, yeah, technically yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Look, bro, you've actually got to stop being a
bitch.
Bro, Just read the check.
Sit Sam Raimi down, Sit Tobydown.
I know you ain't doing shit onthe weekends.
I know you ain't doing shit onthe weekends, bro.
What are you doing on theweekends?
Not a damn thing.
Look, we can film this over twoyears every other weekend and
(30:11):
with the Bob Bros they reallycould just do three different
Spider-Mans if they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I know you ain't doing shit on the weekends, it
could work.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
It could work Every other weekend, tony.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'm just saying, man, I think it could still do dope
though Every other weekend.
Bro, Just take your time.
The comic books do it.
The comic books have threedifferent runs of the exact same
Spider.
It's Spider Morales regularSpider-Man?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, they do.
Spider-gwen has her own shit.
I mean DC's doing it right nowwith all the different DC movies
they've been putting out.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I have a theory on Morales, bro.
I think they are going totransfer him to live action.
I think they're going to do areality where he becomes live
action.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
No, he is.
That's already confirmed.
But Sony said that they can'tdo anything with him.
Live action was until the thirdSpider-Man animated film comes
out.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
They're going to bring it to IRL.
They're going to bring it to.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
IRL bro.
I swear they are going to bringit to IRL bro.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It's going to be dope when they do it, bro, whoever
they're going to cast is goingto be peaking.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's going to be the same guy.
The reason they're takinggetting him swore.
They're getting him swore forthe role, bro.
It takes time it takes time,bro, it takes time to move on
from it.
The guy that voices Miles.
They're going to swore his assup.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Oh, no way, yeah, no way.
He ruined his career after thewhole Haley Simon thing.
Bro, he's a cuss, he's a rap,it's a rap.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, go to them.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
The fact that he's doing conventions already.
In my opinion, no, no, yeah,bro, he's already doing the tour
circuit and I know there's noway everybody that hopefully
goes on the line doesn't roasthim.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I'd be like why did you mess it up, bro?
Now we gotta wait a wholenother year because you fucking
around, you just couldn't killit leave it for Michael B, bro,
you see him doing his thing I'dbe like why did you mess it up
bro?
Now we got to wait a wholenother year because you fucking
around dog, you just couldn'tsell it.
No, bro, Leave it for MichaelBieb.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
bro, you see him doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Wild Ain't no crazy shit.
He's just going to marry itofficially or whatever.
You know that.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You really thought that's like nah, I'm going to do
my thing.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Nah, I'm, he could do his own thing, sit down that's
that one spider-man 29 and Ireally held his ass down bro
yeah, bro, isaac should haveheld his ass down like in the
real life hey man, do me a favorbefore rubber gloves, don't let
, don't, let us go, don't, letus go but uh man, it was rough.
(32:25):
it was rough um us, but no, I'mexcited for the future of what
Marvel has.
As far as Spider-Man comingback, did y'all see the one
poster picture or the imagebehind the scenes where he's
like the head down the entirecity's around him and he just
looks dope as shit?
I thought dope as they were.
Like you know, this film'sgonna be fucking lit, bro, when
the behind-the-scenes photolooks like a badass movie poster
and I was like know I'm more?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I'm more excited for what dc is gonna bring than for
marbles yeah, I just, I justhaven't been excited.
I just haven't been excited foranything.
Marble, you know, has coming upin a long time, you know 100
correct.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yes, I would agree with that.
I was excited for fantasticfour bro and, like I said, when
it 80 drop second weekend it itonly made 11.6 million dollars
the second weekend, 80 droppingtickets yeah, so that's why I
feel like marvin's just tryingto chase that avengers high.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know the setup with uh, with danos, and I'm
trusting the process.
You know I'm giving them thebenefit of the doubt that maybe
dr doom, because from what I'munderstanding, merck is saying
that dr doom really is anavenger threat.
Like you do need to callfucking Iron man or you have to
call him because you're fucked.
If you don't call Hulk and Ironman and T'Challa and everybody
(33:42):
and their mamas, the earth isdestroyed.
So that's why Tristan Marrow,because that's what Marcus in
the comics, that's what Dr Doomis.
Not only is he the main villainfor Fantastic Four but overall,
like he can be like Magneto Inthe movies they downplay,
magneto is a walking Avengersthreat, from what I understand
(34:02):
right.
Like he does rare appearancesbecause he's such a big menace
and that makes sense.
That and that makes sense.
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
The world actually I was going to say I forgot to
tell you guys, in the filmthere's a, a visible woman who's
going to the un or some shitlike that.
They show a bunch of differentcountries.
One of the countries they showis latveria, which is dr doom's
country in that, in thatuniverse or in the comics period
.
But uh, he's not there.
Obviously he's like his seat isempty, but they show like the
little uh country sign for it.
So in my mind, mind, dr Doom isfrom that universe, like he has
(34:32):
to be from that area orsomething like that, and he
probably bounces and somehowlike hitches a ride with the
Fantastic Four and some othershit goes awry.
But did you know that basicallyyou didn't see Kevin Feige's
interview recently.
Then whenever he talks about,like, all the shit he's trying
to reset and he realized thatMarvel kind of dropped the ball
recently.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I heard something about it.
Yeah, it was like, hey, we'regoing to stop putting out so
much content, because floodingcontent into the audiences was
not the best.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, and it was like we're not going to do so much
TV content.
Our TV content is going to besolo.
Basically, whatever DC is doing, they're doing the exact same
thing, just trying to correctthe universe.
So many people are like itseems overwhelming.
To people like, oh,overwhelming.
To people like, oh, I have towatch all these shows and these
movies in order for me to figureout what the hell is going on,
kind of thing.
And he's like our TV shows aregoing to be separately on their
(35:18):
own universe.
That way people can do theirown thing.
There are movies we're going tostart focusing more on quality
and not so much on quantity.
You know, we realized that todo this other event and blah,
blah, blah, blah kind of thing.
So they're realizing a lot oftheir shit is kind of it hasn't
been top tier, so they're goingto try to work on it.
Rumor has it.
So they say.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank youso much for listening to the
(35:43):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
And it's your boy.
X-fag.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Teller, merc Guys, do we have a special episode for
you today?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's right, y'all, we do a little virtual meeting
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, we're doing remote training.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
That's right, y'all.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Welcome to the sit-down.
That's right, y'all.
What are we talking about today, fellas?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Bro, how motherfuckers at McDonald's
demand 27 an hour and they stillget my order wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yep, damn, you always forget to catch up, bro, I
literally said no pickles, Likewhy would you get them, bro?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Extra pickles.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I said All right, and we're also going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I want to talk about the Fantastic Four and the fact
that Freaky Friday was better.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh damn Good topic.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Freaky Friday is a better film.
Anything for Jamie Lee Curtisbro.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
And last but not least, Strip Club Bad Stories.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
That's right y'all.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, we're going to keep it 100.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Let's get going, let's go.
Uh, welcome back, welcome back.
Welcome back to another episodeof the wbm cup podcast, aka
witty banter.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah that's right, we're right.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Go back by the way we we've been missing.
We've been missing for like along time.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Summer break, man.
The audience knows.
The audience knows that afterComic Palooza it's over, we're
not for the summer, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
The audience doesn't know that.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
They gotta know that we gotta go on vacation, we
gotta do shit.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
We're gonna do nothing, why's?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
drinking.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Like I said, he's on board.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We're not doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Why are y'all lying?
Why are y'all lying to the fans?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
This guy's been out for four weeks X-Fur.
He's like, bro, everything'sbeen chill.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Not doing a damn thing, but I feel good to be
back, I feel good to be back,honestly.
So yeah, we're back now fromhere and out to the fall.
And then, you know, christmasbreak.
I mean, come on, before youfive, you're doing this.
Come on, y'all, Y'all alreadyknow.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's what we say.
You say that now.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You won't see us for another.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
This episode, you won't see us for another three
months.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But it's going to be a good one.
Ladies and gentlemen, we'regoing to make you laugh on this
one.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's right y'all?
No, I was just joking about myMcDonald's rant.
I mean I did write it where yougot it.
I mean I got the order, butcome on bro.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, no, bro, I said and it's small Sprite.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And they're like oh, the thing about McDonald's and
me and Merc have spoken aboutthis in length you don't go to
the McDonald's in the suburbs.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But every machine's broken, bro, fucking, I want to
shake all the time and likethere's some people I don't know
the other great shake, likeMcDonald's shake.
I could put crack on it bro.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, I get McFlurry goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I think McFlurry does go a long way.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all American bro, allAmerican like Superman bro.
Yes, this is my transition.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
This is my.
There goes my transition.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Watch it as it goes.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I know we didn't Merck didn't see Superman, but
honestly it's a great movie.
Honestly, all I can say it'sreally much like A Superman
episode Of cartoons.
You've seen the cartoons, Right, Mark?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah.
It very much felt like JusticeLeague, specifically Justice
League Unlimited, specificallythe cartoon, the animated series
, the animated series.
That was like Within the BruceTimm multiverse.
Yeah, Brought the Batman theanimated series and Superman the
animated series into justiceleague, and then they had a
sequel, which was justice leagueunlimited.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, and this is your non-spoiler review, because
it is much like a cartoon.
Like you don't know who thesesuperheroes are, like Guy
Gardner, uh, mr T.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm God damn, mr Terrific, I'm Mr Terrific, I'm
Mr Terrific.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I'm goddamn Mr Terrific.
I'm Mr Terrific.
No, he didn't say that, but atthe end it just like the
cartoons.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well, it expects you, you know the thing is, it
expects you to know who thesepeople are, like it's not going
to do any hand-holding, it'slike, hey, you sure already know
these characters.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
If you don't, mark.
I mean, I told my parents mymom doesn't know who is Guy
Gardner and you know my dad hasan idea who's the Green Lantern.
So he was like, is that theGreen Lantern?
He thought that was cool, butfor the most part it was like
they just enjoyed it.
They're heroes doing hero shit.
You know there is a monster,there is a kaiju, you see it in
(05:05):
the yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know like, oh, the boss is about to squish me.
But you know like, oh, I'mSuperman, he could have done
this like.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
This is exaggeration.
I don't know why he was like.
Oh, because he he could be like, if you want to, no like in
cartoons yeah, because he holdshimself back, so he's used to
holding himself back you know.
Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, likebecause he like when.
Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like when the kaju the snideshow a little bit like.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, when the kaju falls, Superman's trying to hold
the kaju up, because if he,like you know, if he doesn't
hold himself back, he would justlike blow up the kaju, you know
.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, is that the logic behind it?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, because Superman's always holding
himself back.
It's like that moment thathappened in Justice League
Unlimited or Justice League, thefirst animated series, when
they fight Darkseid and Supermangoes.
He gives that whole speech.
He's like you don't understandhow hard it is to always be
holding myself back.
And then he goes off onDarkseid.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Perfect.
Perfect, Because you can takeit, can't you.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Oh, shit we're gone right.
That's true plug it plug inthat speech here for the tiktok
animation.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't mean to go anime, but like I do like how,
like some anime, take theconcepts of superman, for
example, one punch, becausesuperman could do that in theory
, the things that were, forexample, like I know, I just
want like that to the camera butin theory, like superman could
flick so hard and cause like asonic explosion that can take
(06:32):
down, like buildings, you knowlike, or in theory, like, fly so
fast, you know, go 360 aroundthe earth and punch Darkseid in
the balls, you know, like hespins the planet so fast.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
He actually did that once.
I think it's in one of thecomics.
He could go 360 around theworld fast enough counter
rotation to turn back time forlike 24 hours 24 hours.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
He could do a whole 24 hours.
I just remember being in thatone movie with Christopher
Reeves where he can go back forlike 5 minutes.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, he goes 360 around the world counter
rotation.
How did that turn back time?
I don't fucking know.
It's comics, am I right?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Is that the comics or was that the movie?
When we first saw that, when hewent back in time, was it the
movie or the comics?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That sounds like some JoJo logic, bro.
I feel like JoJo.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That comes from the comics.
That comes from the comics Himlike 360 around the world in
counter rotation and turningback time one day.
That's from the comics.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That is literally the most recent, or not, yeah, the
most recent animated JoJo.
That's the way that shit ended,bro.
We're winding time.
We're fast forwarding to theplanet of the Earth.
Straight ripoff from Superman,they said that's wild.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I mean, if you think about it, it's physics, so the
quantum mechanics, the way tobreak it down, I'm fucking with
y'all, I don't fucking know, Iwas like, as soon as you said
the way the quantum mechanicsare.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's the thing that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Oh yeah, you're talking just to research quantum
physics, like you're fuckingdowntime.
Is that what that is?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So the thing is like, from what I'm understanding,
I've had you for a second,though I know Hold on, break it
down.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Break it down, loco.
Hold on, break it down, loco,because the Earth spins around
the sun.
Right, this guy flew so fuckinghard he was able to pull back
an entire solar system to aspecific spot in the cosmos.
If you think about it, if he'snot able to spin Earth clockwise
, he had to pull the entiregravitational pull of Jupiter
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and fucking Pluto.
We see only Earth, but if he'sable to do that, he's pulling
the entire fucking solar systemout of pure rage, that's true.
If it's Superman, then he's notholding back for one.
He's not holding back in hisflight.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, because the reason that it happened on that
storyline was because Louis Lanedied, so he had to turn back
time to save Louis.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I could be mistaken.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, that was the movie.
That's the movie.
It was like a bunch of rocks,you know like 70s style rocks.
You know it was fucking papermache.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It just made me laugh .
The way that he explained it,though, was like Saturn right,
and I was like, in my mind, I ammeeting with fly dynamite.
I was like how many letters arein Superman?
Hey, what's the Greek albumthat's planted?
Hey, Jupiter, hey Jupiter,that's what happens to be in the
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subterranean of what?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
The Greek god of war.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
War, that's immediately where I went.
Sorry, as long as it is theRoman god of war.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I did cry one more time how many letters are on war
, but war backwards, I thinkabout it because war, huh, what
is a good war?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
that means that literally is something and
nothing at the same time, andthat's the principles of quantum
mechanics.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That's true bro.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Which, in power from what I understand, is how
Richard Reed Richards figuredout it's paradoxical this is my
scientific Reed Richardstransition to the Fantastic Four
.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
There goes my hero.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
So what was Fantastic Four, bro?
You just went a big time.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Wildly mediocre brother, and I don't think I
didn't even watch it, like I waskind of hyped for it.
But then it came out and I waslike whatever, like Superman, I
was super hyped to watch it.
I watched it.
I heard it from everybody thatit was good.
Fantastic was super hyped towatch it.
I watched it.
I heard it from everybody thatit was good.
Fantastic four.
I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And then the word of mouth came out and it was like
so for me I knew superman wasgood.
Whenever the movie came out andnobody made memes about the
actual movie, the film, the plot.
You know I'm saying if it's bad, people are gonna make fun of
it immediately.
The weekend after fantasticfour dropped, everybody was
poking at the fucking plot, bro,everybody was ragging on it in
certain ways and I was likethat's a good gauge.
(11:11):
Oh yeah, absolutely yeah.
I mean, if it's trash, thatnews spreads a whole lot quicker
than good news.
Does you know what I'm saying?
So like if it's good you'llknow Like you're like bro.
Have you heard anything aboutit?
You're like no, I heard it wasgood, though it's like one
person said it was good andthat's all you needed to hear.
You know what I'm saying.
But uh, other ones that aresuper fucking hyped on the trash
(11:32):
immediately, like bro andstarbitch.
It's so overhyped, the plot isterrible, the animation's crap
trash.
There's no.
You know I'm saying likethere's always some pain about
it, so um, but as far as thisparticular movie went, there was
a family element.
My brother actually kind ofgave me a little bit more
leniency on it.
Like I said, I give it like a6.8 6.9, my favorite9 but it's
(11:57):
because he was like there werecertain scenes that happened in
the movie not spoilers, but itwas like a silver surfer scene
where they were in space.
There's a specific scene thathappens and you're like bro, you
did something that was dope andI was like no, no, no, no, cool
scene.
But the film as a whole for mewas like kind of lackluster.
You know what I'm saying?
The secret ending at the veryend was it seemed very cheap.
(12:20):
I'll be honest, cheap.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I'll be honest Was it Dune for real?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Dr Dune, right, robert Downey Jr.
You wouldn't even see him.
It's just a green cloak with ashitty kind of plastic mask.
It looks metallic, but you knowit's plastic, and he's just
kind of holding it in his handwhile he's reaching for the
child.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Do you see his face?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
It's the side.
He's kneeling down as if he'stalking to the kid boom and and,
like the invisible woman, walksup or whatever.
She's like franklin now.
Do you guys know why?
Franklin is such a huge deal,though, for this whole concept,
right?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
oh, because he's so p , he could like thank universes
to existence or out of existence.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
He can what's?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
What's the people Captain?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I don't know if that's ever going to work.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh, he's going to.
We're replacing them.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So, because in the comics there was a version of
Thor, iron man and CaptainAmerica Thor, iron man and
Captain America that allsacrificed themselves To take
out a big bad it was likeOnslaught or some shit like that
.
Right, they all died to killthis major villain.
Franklin Richards then createda pocket universe where he then
created the exact same duplicatecharacters from birth, flash
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forward their entire life in thepocket universe and they came
back as their exact same ageselves, but completely, of
course, healthy, walked throughthe portal that he then creates
for them and then pulls them outof that universe.
Obviously, it vanishes andthat's how they come back as
quote-unquote the same peopleFor this one.
If they did the exact samething for the MCU, where, hey,
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these guys sacrificed themselvesbut Franklin managed to make a
pocket universe.
Here's our younger, different,ultimate version of Ultimate
Captain America, ultimate Ironman.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh yeah, is that where Ultimate Marvel comes out?
And shit.
Ultimate Avengers, and shit.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It would be an easy segue if they did.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I could see it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I mean comics.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Am I right?
Am I?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
right, that character of Franklin Richards.
It's fucking broken, it's abroken character it's literally
like he's a character literallybelow.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
God.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yes, or rivalinging.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't see, like how he hasthat much power yeah, it's just
so like I'm going from the powercosmic.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That is the whole thing inside the film.
So it's like you know.
You don't see how they gettransformed just automatically,
like we're already superheroes.
We've been doing it for a whilenow, right, so that that cosmic
power could be anything fromthe phoenix force to the
beyonder, to, like you know, thebeyonders supposed to pass and
gas and the bitches you knowthey don't even explain it.
They don't even explain it alittle bit, no, they just have
(15:10):
the power and now this is achild born with the power cosmic
and again, even thatterminology is kind of something
that's like a marvel comic inmy thing, like the power cosmic
is a like entity, is a specifickind of power, and that's why
I'm like, okay, yeah, the lacticis hungry, he wants to eat the
kid and he's thinking that thekid will finally suffice his
hunger, his craving that's thewhole.
(15:30):
Thing but it's like sacrificingyour family for this one guy.
It's.
It's the ultimate question ofsacrificing someone for everyone
or everyone for you.
You know so, but uh, coolcharacter.
I'm excited to see where thatgoes.
But the film itself, like Isaid, I just was galactus, cool
was the villain cool.
(15:51):
He was cool and he could go tolike grandiose size and he can.
I think he can make it somesmaller, but it he was cool.
I like Galactus' characterdesign, his voids, the damage
and everything like that wascool Was Silver Surfer a big
deal homegirl, or she was justthere for like two minutes.
She was there for about maybe 10, 15 minutes out of the entire
film.
Like I said, she has like herfive minutes where she's like
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chasing the Fantastic Four orwhatever.
I'll give her eight minutes,I'll say 20 minutes, entire film
.
She's there.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Did she surf, though?
Did she surf face?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, so that's the scene that I'm referring to.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I bring you Galactus.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I think they showed it in the trailer already, but
they were like running throughor towards a black hole.
So you see, like the black holeand they're like surfing she's
surfing around the black holeand they're like surfing she's
surfing, you know, going aroundthe black hole and shit like
that.
That's like one of like the coolscenes I would say that my
brother was assigned to and Iwas like, oh yeah, that was,
that was a cool scene, you'reright, but again, I thought I
there was way more surfing thanthe first one, how about?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
that the silver surfer character gives away that
it's gonna be a pocket yeah, mybad, I was talking about this
one.
He gives it away that it's thePocky universe, the Silver
Surfer, because the SilverSurfer is not a girl, it's a
dude.
So, like that, gives it awaypretty much that there's gonna
be another galaxy where theycorrect the the plot of Silver
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Surfer.
Like I understand, she's thewife of Silver Surfer.
There are wife of Silver Surfer.
There are comics of SilverSurfer, lady girl, but the
Silver Surfer's a bald dude.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, no, bro, there's been multiple heralds.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
She's just an iteration of the Silver.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Surfer.
She's one of many, so sheeventually becomes an actual.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh, Thor becomes Silver Surfer 2 in the comics.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
He becomes a herald.
The Silver Surfer is,quote-unquote, a herald of.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Galactus yeah, anybody could be a herald of
Galactus.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
A herald, you're doomed.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
A herald Galactus Like anybody like, if you know
any character, if they reallywant to circum.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
He's right Love you, you know this whole time, you,
this whole time he's he'stalking.
I noticed that murk not oncetalked about like any act, like
any, any, any fantastic four.
Like this whole time that murkis talking he hasn't mentioned
oh, fucking the thing.
Did this?
Uh, mr fantastic did that.
(18:17):
Like you know, I could spoil asuperman for him.
You know I could spoil Supermanfor him and you know I try to
do non-spoilers, but that's onething.
That's how I know, that'ssomething that we made, because
this whole time he's beentalking he's not once mentioned
like a combo fight or combowombo League of Legends
reference.
No combo wombo, no wombo, combo,no combo, wombo.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Dude that's 4v1.
Not one dog.
It was crazy.
They did team up at one pointto take down Galactus.
It makes me laugh, because thefeat that she achieved, even for
me, I'm like damn, that's ahell of an upgrade.
Again, I don't pay attention tothe Fantastic Four too much,
but I don't know what herlimitation is For me in
comparison to what we saw likethe first.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Invisible.
Girl Invisible.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Woman.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Invisible Woman.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
My bad, my bad.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
She also serves face.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, she delivers phenomenal, like I said, like a
screen presence as far as like amom and stuff like that.
Her power scaling, like I said,was like a super power up.
All right, I got to give you aspoiler warning.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Oh yeah, I mean it's fine, All right so like she.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
She ends up pushing Galactus into the transportation
device they need to in order toget the fuck out of there.
Right, like the end of theuniverse or something like that.
For me, the original Invisible,invisible woman is based off of
Jessica Alba, and in the secondFantastic Four she was
struggling not to keep up withfucking Ferris wheel in English.
You know what I'm saying.
So now she somehow pushes a godlike being through this fucking
, and I thought she took likemultiple city blocks of
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futuristic old school New Yorklike solo dolo.
No fucking help.
The only thing the thing doesis like raise down the
foundation of the building sothe Galactus can't grab onto it,
but that's it.
It's fucking.
Just her bro, just her.
She does that shit but it costher her life and of course, the
baby gets put on her chest andhe brings her back to fucking
life.
That's like the power that justgoes to show his level of
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frankly, like he can.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He's pretty much level below god yeah, he's right
below god he can bring back thedead.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean it again for me he's going to be like the
next century.
We're never going to see himagain until like a pivotal
moment, whenever it fuckingmatters, and you'll be like oh
my God, I forgot.
Franklin can do this.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, because the characters are so broken.
Then again, there's been somany characters that have been
introduced that were supposed tobe broken and never brought
back.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Or if they nerf him like that, Like any sense, Like
why even introduce him in thefirst place?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Just before this, just before this, Thunderbolt
had a reference to FantasticFour at the very end of that
movie.
But from what I hear, itdoesn't even connect at all.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So they originally did beat Galactus' ass and then
they did beat.
They put him to the end of theuniverse.
But it doesn't mean that he'sgone.
It's very possible that somesort of event you know what do
we call it?
The incursions?
The incursions are probablygoing to fucking happen.
They're going to have to jump auniverse anyway and that's
what's going to bring him overto Earth.
What I also didn't like aboutthis version is Pedro Pascal is
(21:12):
a great actor.
I did him as Reed Richardsbecause Reed Richards is a very
intelligent person in the filmor always in the comic book
series, even in the originalfilms very, very smart guy.
Constantly in the film I heardthis motherfucker constantly say
I just don't know what to do.
I'm literally lost.
I have no idea where we're at.
I'm at my wit's end, I don'tknow, and I'm like this
(21:33):
motherfucker in the comics has acouncil of himself to figure
out damn near any problem in theuniverse.
He doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I was like You've seen Rick and Morty, right yeah,
does he solo Rick he?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
rivals.
Rick Easy in my mind.
If he doesn't solo, he woulddefinitely.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I just want to know the level of high intellect that
he is, because I know Rick sowill like.
Did he beat Rick?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Only because Rick has broken like fourth wall
continuity.
In my mind that's the onlyreason why he rivals Reed
Richards.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
But if he hadn't done that.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I think Because even when, like, they see Deadpool do
his shit, they're like what thefuck are you doing?
You know what I'm saying?
Nobody understands that.
But like, if he would have dothat feed, I would have been
like oh shit, okay, differentfeed, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
because that's what it comes from.
The Council of Reed Richards ispretty much like a copy of the
Council of Reed Richards.
I mean, the Council of Reed isa copy of the Council of Reed
Richards, correct?
That's what it comes from, yeahand like.
Let me say frankly, in the readsabout this high level
cosmicness can shit out of theuniverse overnight and at first
I was like, well the fuck,what's the point of it?
(22:38):
But then I think about that.
It makes the other charactersmore grounded and more fun,
specifically spider-man.
Does he think about it?
Because reed richard is like, Imean, he can like, just, you
know, snap his fingers and thenthere's no more dr ock, there's
no more fucking, uh, vulture.
But then here comes spider-man,who was like I, I got a math
exam.
Fucking Scorpio is out theredoing shit.
(23:01):
I can't even study and thisbitch will shut the fuck up
about why I brought the wrongpizza.
Oh, but Harry and theStinkheads, I get it, you know,
it's relatable.
So it grounds like because it'sso cosmic and it's so out there
.
It grounds like my favoritecharacters.
Well, because, like Spider-Man,he's one of my favorite.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Marvel characters, if that makes sense.
True, because of the eventsthat are going to happen,
they're going to have to jumpuniverses.
In my mind, that sets up thenext film for them, but you know
that they're going to getbecause it's a Marvel fucking
movie.
They got a trilogy that theysigned up for immediately.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I saw the news that Pedro Pascal's role in Avengers
got cut down.
Got cut down.
He's no longer going to be astar Like.
He's going to be like a sidecharacter.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, he's more of a side, not lead as much as he was
.
Yeah, that's how much this filmaffected him, bro.
I'm telling you, it was not agood portrayal, unfortunately.
And you know, what's even worseIs that that he's getting the
backlash for the anxiety thingthat he's got.
You know what I'm saying, beingtouchy-feely with his wife
what's-her-face Kirby man?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
no, I don't think that's going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I mean it's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird, especiallyon TV and I'm like bro Shannon
Sharp is a warning.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's kind of weird, but then you see him with like
other other actresses and likeeverybody loves him.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
There's no actress out there that gets weirded out
by him have you seen, homegirl,that he plays in the Last of Us
with?
She loves him too yeah, theydon't be all handy on her,
though, why not?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
that's a child.
That's a child.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, I don't know how old she is.
I don't know how old she isshe's 16 you gotta grab on her
ass.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But like you don't ever see him like hugs up or
like fucking nothing, I don'tever see any physical contact
with him.
But you have social anxiety.
It's the exact same thing.
I'm like why does you havesocial anxiety?
It's the exact same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I'm like why does it's just because?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
that idiot.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
She's playing his wife and she's playing his
daughter.
Bro, you can't compare thosetwo.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean.
But she's married though, bro.
It's not like she's a singlechick who's, like you know, on
the market, Bro, he's gettinglike.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I mean, she's fine, she's fine she's not grabbing
ass, bro.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Hands on on the waist .
You know what I'm saying, bro?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
you didn't tell me what's up.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Eskimo kiss at the red cover mirror bro, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Sorry, I was anxious, yeah it's so forced.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
That's what I'm saying, though but like I'm,
just kidding brother Pascal.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Haley is so forced that's what I'm saying, though,
but like I'm not saying that,that's what I believe I'm not
saying.
I'm just saying that there arepeople out there who do believe
this about him, though becauseDoctor Doom is Fantastic Four's
main rival.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So if Pascal is taking the backseat, who's the
main guy?
Spider-man, obviously.
Tom Holland is going to carrythe franchise for the next 10
more years, bro.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
He's the only one that could like, he's the only
one that would like be able tolike step forward as a big
character, like as a flagpolefor the team.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Ladies and gentlemen, we're getting a Spider-Man 4.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I did it all.
Spider-man 4 is happening.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It just started filming.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I used to put in times like these, bro.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That being said, after Avengers, and what was the
movie after Avengers?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Remasteria.
No way home.
It was the Dark Ops.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Far From Home.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
When it came out, I was excited about it because
Jake Gyllenhaal great actorgreat stereo great villain
character.
But if you look back now, farFrom Home was not a great movie,
it's okay, it's okay.
And then no Way Home, no WayHome, no Way Home was a what do
(26:49):
you call it Nostalgia.
It was a nostalgia trip.
Okay, tobey Maguire, andrewGarfield.
That's why we love it.
The next Spider-Man movie, bro,I don't think it's going to it.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Better, come with like a good story, bro, because
come on, I guess Homecoming iskind of forgettable if you think
about it now.
He was the part of Homecoming.
He got two seconds about it.
Now, he was a part ofHomecoming.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
He got two seconds.
All Homecoming did wasintroduce Spider-Man.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
That I'm fucking out.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, he was trying to tag Batman's daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
He told you he was going to be Batman's daughter.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, bro, he was trying to tag Batman's daughter
because he was still a bird, bro.
He was still a bird.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
What was his status?
I know it.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And I remember he was under training of Tony Stark to
be a brand new hero because hehad the Iron man or the
Spider-Man.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, this whole Spider-Man movie.
They've been carried by otherstories.
I don't think that's important.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, all the prequels, if you think about it,
all three movies, all theprequels.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The third one, you're not wrong, see my thing about
that.
It makes me think of T-Pain'sthird album, three Rings.
There was a bunch of cameos, abunch of features.
He had great songs but KanyeWentz featured on that album,
ciara featured on that album,ludacris featured, chris Brown
featured I mean Musical Soul,mary J Blige, I mean so many
(28:08):
fucking dope ass features.
That happened and it was anamazing album.
But that took away from hiscredit.
People were like, oh, it's thefeatures that make the album,
it's the cameos, it's theadd-ons that people that make
the album.
So therefore, in that samesense, I think of if there
wasn't a Toby, you didn't tellme.
If only Andrew Garfield came up, it's a missed opportunity for
Toby.
Only Toby shows up.
It's a missed opportunity forAndrew.
(28:29):
Both of them have to show up.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
If they don't show up at all again.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's a missed opportunity for the franchise as
a whole.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well, that's why you can take that movie out of the
continuity you know, especiallybecause at that point they were
still trying to figure out whatthe fuck the multiverse was.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
So the way they explained it that the Spider-Man
came to the main universe.
I mean it doesn't make a lot ofsense.
It's somehow connected.
You know, remember the randomanimals they had in the sky.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
They were like made of lightning or some shit, and
then Venom.
Venom had like the randomscenes, yeah it's Sony.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That was Sony not wanting to let go of Venom.
That's damn, just fuckingaround with the storyline.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And so, sony bro, come on.
You know, tom Hardy Disney, itwould have been a way different,
better story.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Ah, man, I hate that.
They fucking.
They still own the rights tothat dude, but I mean, like I
said, the fact that we're evengoing to get to it in.
Spider-man movies at allAgain've never gone beyond a
trilogy of any of our timelines,as far as I know of right now,
maybe the rest of the universewere fucking.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Technically, Tuffy McGuire got a four win.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Wait, you got 3.5.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, you can see one , two, three and then no way
home.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah bro, yeah, technically yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Look, bro, you've actually got to stop being a
bitch.
Bro, Just read the check.
Sit Sam Raimi down, Sit Tobydown.
I know you ain't doing shit onthe weekends.
I know you ain't doing shit onthe weekends, bro.
What are you doing on theweekends?
Not a damn thing.
Look, we can film this over twoyears every other weekend and
(30:11):
with the Bob Bros they reallycould just do three different
Spider-Mans if they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I know you ain't doing shit on the weekends, it
could work.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
It could work Every other weekend, tony.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'm just saying, man, I think it could still do dope
though Every other weekend.
Bro, Just take your time.
The comic books do it.
The comic books have threedifferent runs of the exact same
Spider.
It's Spider Morales regularSpider-Man?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, they do.
Spider-gwen has her own shit.
I mean DC's doing it right nowwith all the different DC movies
they've been putting out.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I have a theory on Morales, bro.
I think they are going totransfer him to live action.
I think they're going to do areality where he becomes live
action.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
No, he is.
That's already confirmed.
But Sony said that they can'tdo anything with him.
Live action was until the thirdSpider-Man animated film comes
out.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
They're going to bring it to IRL.
They're going to bring it to.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
IRL bro.
I swear they are going to bringit to IRL bro.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
It's going to be dope when they do it, bro, whoever
they're going to cast is goingto be peaking.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's going to be the same guy.
The reason they're takinggetting him swore.
They're getting him swore forthe role, bro.
It takes time it takes time,bro, it takes time to move on
from it.
The guy that voices Miles.
They're going to swore his assup.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Oh, no way, yeah, no way.
He ruined his career after thewhole Haley Simon thing.
Bro, he's a cuss, he's a rap,it's a rap.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, go to them.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
The fact that he's doing conventions already.
In my opinion, no, no, yeah,bro, he's already doing the tour
circuit and I know there's noway everybody that hopefully
goes on the line doesn't roasthim.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I'd be like why did you mess it up, bro?
Now we gotta wait a wholenother year because you fucking
around, you just couldn't killit leave it for Michael B, bro,
you see him doing his thing I'dbe like why did you mess it up
bro?
Now we got to wait a wholenother year because you fucking
around dog, you just couldn'tsell it.
No, bro, Leave it for MichaelBieb.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
bro, you see him doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Wild Ain't no crazy shit.
He's just going to marry itofficially or whatever.
You know that.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You really thought that's like nah, I'm going to do
my thing.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Nah, I'm, he could do his own thing, sit down that's
that one spider-man 29 and Ireally held his ass down bro
yeah, bro, isaac should haveheld his ass down like in the
real life hey man, do me a favorbefore rubber gloves, don't let
, don't, let us go, don't, letus go but uh man, it was rough.
(32:25):
it was rough um us, but no, I'mexcited for the future of what
Marvel has.
As far as Spider-Man comingback, did y'all see the one
poster picture or the imagebehind the scenes where he's
like the head down the entirecity's around him and he just
looks dope as shit?
I thought dope as they were.
Like you know, this film'sgonna be fucking lit, bro, when
the behind-the-scenes photolooks like a badass movie poster
and I was like know I'm more?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I'm more excited for what dc is gonna bring than for
marbles yeah, I just, I justhaven't been excited.
I just haven't been excited foranything.
Marble, you know, has coming upin a long time, you know 100
correct.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yes, I would agree with that.
I was excited for fantasticfour bro and, like I said, when
it 80 drop second weekend it itonly made 11.6 million dollars
the second weekend, 80 droppingtickets yeah, so that's why I
feel like marvin's just tryingto chase that avengers high.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
You know the setup with uh, with danos, and I'm
trusting the process.
You know I'm giving them thebenefit of the doubt that maybe
dr doom, because from what I'munderstanding, merck is saying
that dr doom really is anavenger threat.
Like you do need to callfucking Iron man or you have to
call him because you're fucked.
If you don't call Hulk and Ironman and T'Challa and everybody
(33:42):
and their mamas, the earth isdestroyed.
So that's why Tristan Marrow,because that's what Marcus in
the comics, that's what Dr Doomis.
Not only is he the main villainfor Fantastic Four but overall,
like he can be like Magneto Inthe movies they downplay,
magneto is a walking Avengersthreat, from what I understand
(34:02):
right.
Like he does rare appearancesbecause he's such a big menace
and that makes sense.
That and that makes sense.
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
The world actually I was going to say I forgot to
tell you guys, in the filmthere's a, a visible woman who's
going to the un or some shitlike that.
They show a bunch of differentcountries.
One of the countries they showis latveria, which is dr doom's
country in that, in thatuniverse or in the comics period
.
But uh, he's not there.
Obviously he's like his seat isempty, but they show like the
little uh country sign for it.
So in my mind, mind, dr Doom isfrom that universe, like he has
(34:32):
to be from that area orsomething like that, and he
probably bounces and somehowlike hitches a ride with the
Fantastic Four and some othershit goes awry.
But did you know that basicallyyou didn't see Kevin Feige's
interview recently.
Then whenever he talks about,like, all the shit he's trying
to reset and he realized thatMarvel kind of dropped the ball
recently.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I heard something about it.
Yeah, it was like, hey, we'regoing to stop putting out so
much content, because floodingcontent into the audiences was
not the best.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, and it was like we're not going to do so much
TV content.
Our TV content is going to besolo.
Basically, whatever DC is doing, they're doing the exact same
thing, just trying to correctthe universe.
So many people are like itseems overwhelming.
To people like, oh,overwhelming.
To people like, oh, I have towatch all these shows and these
movies in order for me to figureout what the hell is going on,
kind of thing.
And he's like our TV shows aregoing to be separately on their
(35:18):
own universe.
That way people can do theirown thing.
There are movies we're going tostart focusing more on quality
and not so much on quantity.
You know, we realized that todo this other event and blah,
blah, blah, blah kind of thing.
So they're realizing a lot oftheir shit is kind of it hasn't
been top tier, so they're goingto try to work on it.
Rumor has it.
So they say.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank youso much for listening to the
(35:43):
WBN podcast.
This is one of your hosts,itchy Boy Merc.
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Speaker 3 (36:07):
And this is your boy, oski, and the man, and the man,
as always.
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Speaker 1 (36:28):
Again, if we have any technical difficulties, we
apologize, and if you stayed allthe way through, we appreciate
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We'll see you at the end later,y'all bye.
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