September 30, 2024 • 53 mins
Curious how a minor character from "The Batman" could rise to become the central figure of a new HBO series? This episode promises to satisfy your curiosity as we celebrate Suki's wedding and dive into an in-depth discussion on Colin Farrell's mesmerizing portrayal of Oswald Cobblepot in "The Penguin." Merc, Oski, and xFer kick things off with some entertaining banter before diving deep into Farrell's transformative performance, drawing parallels to Heath Ledger's iconic Joker. We explore the character's evolution and how Farrell brings a captivating presence to the DC's latest series.
We pay homage to the classic mob films that inspired "The Penguin," discussing character portrayals, power dynamics, and the vacuum left by Carmine Falcone's fall. The episode highlights Penguin's strategic leadership and the complex themes of duality and character development, reminiscent of "The Sopranos." The impact of lighting and cinematography on showcasing Penguin's contrasting personality aspects adds another layer to our conversation. We also take a closer look at minor characters, like Victor Zsasz, and how they can evolve into significant figures within the storyline.
The excitement doesn't stop there. Our spirited discussion on future references to the Batman universe touches on characters like The Riddler, Catwoman, and even the possibility of Mr. Freeze appearing in upcoming installments. We debate the inclusion of the Joker, express our enthusiasm for Robert Pattinson's and Ben Affleck's Batman portrayals, and speculate on how the Penguin's storyline could intertwine with other characters in James Gunn's new DC Universe. Join us for an episode filled with humor, nostalgia, and enthusiastic commentary that promises an engaging experience for all DC fans.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you for joining us.
You come to us on the night ofmy intern's wedding.
Suki is having the night of herlife.
You bring the disrespect to ourhouse, the disrespect to this
table.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
You expect us to do you favors, what kinds?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
of favors.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You ask me, you want to be part of the WBN, you know
what we stand for If you want tobe part of la familia.
Loyalty Family Bitches.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It doesn't come free.
There's a price to pay a roadto respect.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
On this thing we called.
What do we call this again?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
the witty banter media familia or also known as
where's my music?
Kiss the watch, kiss the ring,bitch kiss the ring bitch.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Kiss the ring.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Kiss it.
Good evening, ladies andgentlemen.
There we go Lower that shitsuki.
Thank you so much for joiningthe WBN podcast.
Ladies and gentlemen, this isWoody Vance and Miki, I am one
of your hosts.
It's your boy, merc.
Thank you, guys for tuning in.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And this is your hosts.
It's your boy, merc.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
And this your boy.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh sorry, this your boy, austin, the big, it's a big
, and this is your boy X-Squared.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Guys, we got a hell of a show for you this week.
I hope you guys enjoyed our bit.
We're talking everything.
Penguin, penguin, penguin Justcame out on HBO Max.
The DC Universe is getting wildy'all.
Colin Farrell, all thegreatness of the show.
It's going to be awesome.
You guys ready for the episode?
I'm ready, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm ready.
Let's have fun with it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Let's go Welcome back everybody.
Woo-hoo and we're back Welcometo this thing.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Have your guys meet my guys out by the pier.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And they're going to talk about the show.
I talk about this guy.
I know a guy.
They call him a pinguino.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
A pinguino, oswald Cobblepot.
Oswald.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Cot.
He's a good friend, he's afriend of ours, he's a friend of
the family.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know he works with us.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
This is our guy, he's a very well-known character.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He's well-off, he does the work that we don't want
to do.
Welcome back Tony, Welcome backSteve, Not for real.
Cut the music.
Cut the music.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Cut the bit.
It's WBN Podcast.
We're back and this episodewe're going to talk about the
new series that just dropped.
It's only one episode, but wefelt it and we want to do a full
episode breakdown.
A few spoilers ahead.
We're going to start with aspoiler free review and then
we're going to get in dig intosome real spoilers.
Are you guys cool with that?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh yeah, absolutely let's go.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
All right.
So first off, let me start off.
As a preparation to watch thepenguin, I rewatched Batman.
Uh, as a preparation to watchthe penguin, I rewatched the
Batman.
Oh, I forgot how good of amovie it is man.
You rewatched it too recently,too right.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I did, man, it's peak , it's peak, it's peak.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And you know it was funny cause I thought I was like
, okay, they're going to do awhole spin on series on the
penguin.
I mean, you know, I I forgothow small his part really is in
the Batman.
Yeah, like he's just a sidecharacter.
He has like maybe four scenes.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, because he's a minuscule character If he
doesn't get pulled out of thecar with the heels on.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, like you don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So I thought it was funny that I didn't realize how
much of a small part he had inthe batman.
But uh, it was definitelysomething you remember like the
little humor that there wasn't abatman came from the penguin.
I also want to say that yes hewas a little bit of a humor,
humor um relief yeah comicrelief in the batman and I love
that about that, because he's solike in colin farrell man.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean I don't want to get into colin farrell but
the acting, because you'realready bringing up the movie In
the movie alone.
We couldn't believe it was him.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I remember that I was like that's Colin Farrell
, bro.
Nah, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And the performance we're like my God, bro, that's
Penguin bro, he transformed yeah.
Yeah, and like bro, it's like.
So Heath Ledger is known as thecopy him.
Bro.
This guy did something likecompletely left field for
something, that's you know acouple.
Yes, there's source materialeverywhere.
Yes, obviously yeah yeah becausethere's so many iterations of
this specific character right,but but his own, like person
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that he brought into thecharacter you think is an actor
that they put scars in his faceand it's somebody completely
different.
You know, you don't know.
It's fucking a guy that youthat does really play like the
heartthrob, or the guy thatplays like the uh, the action
hero yeah, he's playing the goodlooking guy yeah, remember,
phone booth bro oh man, I lovethat movie.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That was one of my favorite I forgot all about that
shit.
I can't wait to be clipped ifyou don't hang up, you know,
I'll kill somebody bro you know,the movie doesn't work as long
as it's me click.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It doesn't call the pizza man.
Hey, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It ain't me click.
It doesn't age well, becauseGen Z and Generation Alpha would
probably be like what thefuck's a phone booth.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
What the fuck is a phone booth?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Why?
Why is he there, bro?
Why is?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
he called that.
Where's his cell phone?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Just FaceTime him you know, but that guy that guy is
Oswald Cobblepot, bro you know,yeah, man, and he delivered the
whole, the whole movie, like thewhole plot line, his character,
and there were some things thatyou know, like the logo itself,
the penguin, the red label, ispretty much an homage to the
Sopranos, which is like red, ithas a gun, but in this case it's
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a penguin, it's a P, it's apenguin shape.
And I didn't know like there isinstances in the comics where
Cobblepot interacts with his momyeah, but in the Sopranos it's
the complete opposite.
This is why I believe PenguinSolo is the Tony crew, because
he has something that not evenBatman doesn't have, which is a
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motherly support.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
That was one of the most impactful scenes because
she was like, hey, I got to getyou out, mean you jumped uh like
you pulled on me, you pulled onme really hard there but uh,
yes but yes, spoilers right offthe bat, the fucking bad
spoilers right off the bat, butit was great.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, because that was one of my favorite scenes,
because his mom basically saidmama ain't race no bitch mama
said knock you out, motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'm sorry, I was like damn we can backtrack, because
that's like the middle Before weget to the end.
That's the middle, so we canstart from there.
Start at the beginning, likepretty much introducing this
character that was Batman.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yes, so going back to the movie, I mean the movie the
series.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We gotta talk about this guy that keeps messing up
with our city.
We got them city.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
He be dressed as a fucking bat.
As a fucking bat, who is?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
this guy.
I heard he got Falcone brotherIn my territory Falcone was a
small fry.
He's the guy that killedFalcone.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Falcone's, our fall guy.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh, that's right.
Falcone's just a fall guy.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, it's crazy that they did kill Falcone, because
Falcone is like one of the bigBatman characters.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He killed one of the main mafia mob characters in the
Batman world.
It does leave like this vacuumVacuum, yeah, vacuum of power.
Yes, so I do like that.
That's the setup for the series.
It's like after the Batmanmovie, because the series is set
up.
It's been a week.
It's been a week.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It in my movie because the series is set up
right after it's been a week.
It's been six days.
You see the same scene.
Yeah, you see the same scene inthe movie where he's looking
out at the city from it beingdamaged.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm thinking that scene where he's looking out at
the city at the end of the moviehe's picturing like the next
steps to take.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I do really like that .
That's the premise.
This is set five days after.
The movie is basically thefallout.
They took out carmine falcone,the big bad, the big boss, and
now who's gonna take over thecity?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I love that he was so early on it, bro, that it was
so soon after it happened.
He still had time to go breakinto his uh, his spot and steal
the dirt that he had oneverybody and in my mind I'm
like he owns the city right now.
With that information, he ownsthe city.
Oh, what he picked up in thatenvelope?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, was that Harvey Dent?
That's my theory.
Is that Harvey Dent?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh, the general DA.
It was like a DA, I think itwas, because, if you think
Harvey has a gambling problemand people didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Because he knows.
I've just done my guess.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I'm just shooting shit here.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I think it Because there was a picture of him with
the casino playing blackjack.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Who was the person that was there?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you guys scan the ?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
QR code.
That's what I'm saying, that'swhat I think.
There's a QR code, you guysdidn't see that in the show.
No, he's like scan it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Scan the QR code.
He's saying that and it sayssomething about Two-Face.
You could hear it figure.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Hey, is that harvey?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
it's something connected, that's interesting
because there is a connectionthere, uh, with one of the
characters in the series is likein the comics.
Well, I guess we're gonna jumparound yeah, obviously it's a
great show.
Check it out but um what's hername?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
the daughter falcone yeah, oh, the crazy bitch
falcone falcone, but what's hername?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
falcone daughter alexis sonia sonia sophia sophia
sophia, I'm so sorry, sophiaFalcone.
Like in the comic run that shecomes from, she, her connection
ends With like Harvey Dent, likeshe gets shot by Two-Face, oh,
or something like that.
She, she hasn't made that manyappearances.
She's actually a character thatwas first introduced In the
(09:40):
Long Halloween Storyline.
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Which Long Halloween is like one of the greatest.
Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Which focuses more on the crime than Falcone series.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Is this Long Halloween?
No, no, no, no, no, that's hush.
It's hush, you're right, sorry,yeah, it's hush.
You know what's funny theactress.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
The sequel Dark Victory.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The, the actress.
She looks so petite and prettythat looks like Rocky.
Remember Rocky's wife.
What was her name?
Oh, from the first, rockyAdrian.
She was the daughter in theGodfather, she was the one that
was getting married and all thatstuff.
She's the Godfather's daughterin the first one.
She plays that pivotal role.
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The daughter of Don Corleone.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
This actress?
No, no, no, adrianenne Adrienne, adrienne actress, I didn't
know that that's so cool.
Yeah, that's her.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And she looks petite and very pretty, just like the
actress that plays Sofia Falconethat you see another reference
like they take that from movies.
In this case, they picked thatactress, her.
Yeah, but she looks like if youGoogle.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Christine Miloti.
Is that the actress of the?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Penguin.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, okay, I think so.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I don't know.
He's trying to find theoriginal one from the Godfather.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh, okay, From the Penguin.
Her name is Christine Miloti.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Thank you, Suki, for forwarding that so she plays the
plays like the daughter Of OfDon Corleone, and so, if you see
her, talia Shire.
Talia Shire is her name.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
She looks like the Like Christine Migliori.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yes, and that's the.
The new Sofia, and that's thewhole point of it and that's the
point of it In the movie she is.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh, you're saying, this is the homage, the homage
of the actress.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Someone's so petite and pretty because just like the
book, is written that she'svery pretty and petite in the
books as well and she is thedaughter of the ma family.
But in this case, in in thehalloween, because it has come
from like the actress they chosespecifically is to like give
her like a you know, hey, lookat the godfather, remember that,
look how you know she lookslike.
(11:47):
But there's many scenes notjust like the actress but like,
for example, this scene where umkabo pa's invited um to sit
down oh yeah yeah, that'sreminding me of scarface.
Remember the scene like we spokeabout it a while ago.
He's like, hey, I'll make acouple million here, I'll make a
couple million there.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'll make a couple million there, you know, because
, oh, you make million dollarmoves on your own.
Now, is that what you do?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Tony Is that what you do, and what does he call it?
Being called up, being calledup to a family.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Oh, yeah, yeah, what is it being summoned or
something?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It's basically something like what does this
mean?
That you're being called?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, sit down, sit down, sit down.
You come and sit down here.
Sit down, you think I'm goingto leave this place safe?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We got to talk about your operation.
We're going to shut down thedrops in your plant.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
We're losing money here.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, hold up, shut down the plant.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
We're losing money here.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Can we go back, rewind the tape right off the
bat.
That's where the penguinactually like.
I was like okay, this is gonnabe a good show it's gonna be a
good show.
Same thing, same thing I saidokay, I don't know if you guys
watch someone in marketing, butuh, I watched a little bit of
the marketing and there was ateaser at the end of the batman
if you watch it on max where theteaser was like, yeah, this is
a story about the vacuum ofpower and who's going to take
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Cobra, is it Al Falcone or SofiaFalcone?
So they were setting up that AlFalcone was going to be a
character that was going to bethroughout the series.
If you watched some of themarketing, al Falcone was
supposed to be like you know,there was going to be a
power struggle between alfalfacone and sofia falcone maybe
hilarious popped off in thefirst five minutes you know, the
penguin just double taps, himtriple taps triple tap to the
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first five minutes.
Yeah, bro, I mean he put likeyeah, it was, he unloaded that
clip, he got that yeah, he wentoff on his ass, bro.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I loved it, oh, but I mean he was open with that's
where he fucked up.
Yeah, he was honest with himand homeboy saw right through it
.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I thought, I thought, uh, and it really does give you
, like a better idea of what thecharacter is, because uh, yeah,
what he believes in up thischaracter like to like.
Maybe you want to root for theguy when he tells you the story
of, uh, calipresi, yeah, and hetells you a story about this
gangster that was well liked bythe community and he took care
of the community and that's so.
You want me to be like thisfucking nobody?
Is that what you want?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
me to be?
Because this fucking nobody.
Is that what you want me to be?
Because it's going to be easierfor you to take what the fuck
is mine.
Huh.
Is that what you?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Or is that your?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
dream.
Yeah, oh, that's your dream,isn't it?
Hey man, he got in his ass,though I ain't going.
I felt bad, I was like I waslike yeah, and then he's like no
.
Oh shit, I felt bad.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
That was a great scene.
Yeah, he laughed at him bro.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And I liked that, that dichotomy of it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I liked that about that character, about Pigman,
because he is like rational,like you see that Throughout
that, the first episode alonewhen he like I'll reason it out
with you, I'll talk you out, youknow I'm gonna be nice, you
know he's gonna give you allBusiness opportunity, you know,
and like no, he's like fuck it,let's business opportunity.
No, he's just like fuck it,let's do it.
He doesn't have to sit down, hedoes it when he goes to the
jail, and we'll talk about it injust a second.
First he becomes like hey, I'mhere to offer my services, I'm
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here to be your friend.
Even with Sofia they havedinner.
Hey, what do I know?
He's a drunkie, he's alwayslike nice, I like that about
couple pot.
Like every time he has to sitdown with anybody, first he
talks it out and then you knowif I get like, like, like, like,
if he has to that's aninteresting take on it, because
the way I saw it was hedescribed his character.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
He's just like I go to these meetings, I go to these
sit downs, I, I, I pretend tobe small, I make them feel big
and I go about my business yes,and I was like that's exactly
what he does.
I was like he makes it.
Whatever you need, man, youknow I'm fucking.
I'm here to help out.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, you know.
However, I can be of assistance.
I mean, he's playing acharacter, basically, yeah, and
he knows it.
He knows the character.
I'm the dude disguised as itshows you, like the light in the
character, like, okay, he wantsto be like this Calabrese
character where he's like, uh,respected by everybody.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
By the community.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, Take care of his people.
So you see that lighting hischaracter, you see a little bit
of lighting his eyes.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And then what'd you see right after when he shoots
him?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
you see the penguin, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You see the darkness.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You see how much of uh um, you see basically how
much darkness he really hasagain it's awesome you could
kind of see, you could kind ofsee, this is the seeds for what
he's likely to become yes howmuch darker he's likely to
become yeah because, I'm likeyeah, which is also the theme of
sopranos too like the wholeidea you're writing with tony as
it becomes like a capo and asit becomes boss and the evilness
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he had to do to become bosswhich is another, which is
obvious theme again, but like itmakes me think of the therapist
thing that you talked about.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
He's just like working through his bullshit.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
He finally gets to be the ultimate boss, and I'm like
you see, you see the balls inPenguin, because he comes out.
You got the balls in thefucking ball and he, he comes
out and just blasts it Clack,clack, clack, clack.
Hey, you're the wrong fuckingnight to fuck with me, man.
Yeah, bro, that was so good, Igotta say he's a short guy,
right, but he was like suddenly8'10".
(16:52):
Yes, I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Do you see all those scenes where he's like, you know
, he's just like how about thewaddle?
Yeah, bro he's being a bitch tolike other characters like I'm
just, you know, giving them whatthey want, but he himself, he's
a gangster.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
He will like you know , start shooting.
I'll cut you like a fuckingfish when he was being chased,
he just you know, he took outone guy by himself.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He did you know it is funny because he does show the
light that you're talking about.
Because, like after like, theyburied the first, the guy that
killed the first five minutes.
What was his name?
Al?
They throw him in the backseatof that car.
He told the guy to help him outand he's like, hey, you should
turn around and see that sunset.
You know, put him out like adog.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Like what the fuck dog, that was wild.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They put that light out real quick bro.
He's like look, man, you knowwho the fuck we just killed.
It's a lot easier to put you inthe bag bro Because he's right,
he's 100% right, bro, you knowwhat they'll do to you the whole
time he was setting up, he'slike, oh, he's going to kill him
right here.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, I thought he was going to show more of the
penguin being penguin.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Well, no, no, no, caught when he's like the little
bet.
We caught the little bastardthat was with you and I was like
oh, they got him, bro.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I thought it was gonna be a plot twist yeah I was
like, oh man, he's gonna throwhim under the bus.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's fucked up.
And I was like, oh, it's thisother kid.
Fuck that guy, bro.
Boom, is that what you wantedme to do?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
yeah, it is so it's the whole hour.
It worked out.
It worked out great.
But you know what In that?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
moment for me.
In that moment.
I was like ooh you, little ratbastard, you do anything to save
your skin, won't you?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
She said it, she called him out for it.
That's what my thing was.
You don't give a fuck aboutanybody's life, but your own.
He's right.
What would you do for thisfamily?
But yeah, the whole hour younever know if this big kid His
name is Big right, victorAguilar, you know it's like.
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Is he going to be dead by theend of the episode?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Is he going to?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
make it all the way I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, they're saying that.
It may be Like they're pushing.
These are comments.
I saw Victor Zaz.
He may be Victor Zaz, the guythat every time he kills
somebody he causes a scar here.
I saw Victor Zaz, he may beVictor.
Zaz.
Victor Zaz is the guy thatevery time he kills somebody, he
causes a scar here.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
No way he in some of the runs he serves penguins.
Yeah, he works with penguins.
They got some connections inthe comic book.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, he'll do jobs for penguins.
Yeah, hey, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
That would make sense .
That's how he starts out.
A guy with a stutter, and youknow, that's why he gives him a
shot.
I like how they gave that inthe behind the scenes oh, they
gave it in the behind the scenesLike a penguin has a disability
, so therefore he sees.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So the stutter.
He thought it was a disability.
I thought it was a little bitof a stretch.
It is, but it still works.
It still works it still works.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Because he does his first crime cut himself to cope
with, uh, with the crime he justdid, you know, and obviously he
can't leave because pingingwill gut him.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know, I'm pushing it, you know that'd be an
interesting like end game,because right now he's even
squimmish about like cutting thehead of a cadaver yeah, but I
think just as is like anultimate serial killer.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah you know what, though, the way he broke it down
makes it a serial killer type.
You know why Do you go from thefront.
But then I thought what happenswhen I hit the the trach, the
trach.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And then I thought going from the back but then I
thought spine, picture the spine, you know bone.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
And that's just hard.
And I was like, oh, fuckingchill, that's enough.
And I'm like, but he was socasual about it though, the kid
wasn't freaked out, he was just,I didn't know which way to do
it.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It wasn't that he couldn't do it, I just got
confused.
Well I mean, but he's like, butthen I started thinking like he
sees it in his head.
Yeah, so in that aspect you cansee how he could get.
He could go dark.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes, yes like you see , the birth of a serial killer,
you know, because he, you know,with penguin, and that's what I
think, because penguin kills yousaw it at the beginning, like
at the end of gangsters is whatthey call.
They're all serial killers.
All, all gangsters are serialkillers because they just, you
know, you, we all get offended,bro, we always somebody makes
fun of our argument, we're gonnakill a man because they, we're
gonna probably cry and walk away, just kill him.
(20:58):
Yeah, but that, but penguin isa killer, killer, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No, 100%.
I think it's so gangster man.
I think it's cool as shit.
Which?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I think is like so whenever him and Vic go to that
house, I was thinking that theywill play the name of Cobblepot,
because in that scene wherehe's being told what to do, yeah
, he's a small character but,like I mentioned references, a
reference I'm bringing up andI'm pushing it here is
Goodfellas.
For example, Ray Liotta'scharacter and Robert De Niro's
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character, although they'reassociated with the mob, they
weren't Italian.
Ray Liotta's character was likehalf Jewish, half Italian and
De Niro's character was halfIrish, half Italian, but they
were what they were calledassociates, right?
So my theory is that Cobblepotlike grew up just like Ray
(21:49):
Liotta, Robert De Niro'scharacter, in an Italian
mob-like neighborhood, but hewas never one of them.
He was always an associatebecause he's probably English.
I think they will play thecharacter Kabupat, because it's
not really like.
I'm just theorizing with thestructure.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I can see that in the background because obviously he
was exposed to this Calabresecharacter his childhood and you
can see in the teaser that we'reprobably going to get a
flashback episode.
I'll be interested to see himin the flashback episode
no-transcript have a real uhkabo pot's backstory there's the
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comics where, like it was, yeahbut I mean live action killed
his brothers.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Oh interesting okay spoilers.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I didn't know he's an .
You know that's what Batmangoes after, is that?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So we'll have to see if the TV series goes a
different way.
Yeah, but I'm excited to seethe first live action take
Because like you said, theyalready mixed things up.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's already got a Sopranos touch.
So, I'm curious how it's goingto go going forward.
It'll be going forward.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, seen when they're going up to the house,
uh, to the falcone house, andthey kind of show big is amazed
at how yeah, they live.
That's an interesting team inthe show that they're setting up
.
Uh, because it's an interestingpart of gotham city how the one
percent of gotham city isalways like a way so much richer
than you know the you know italso helped.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It helped set up the slums in gotham.
For me, you know, like becausegotham's always been like all
right, this is the bad side,this is the the rich side, but
we never really got the chanceto see, like how it got to be
like that yeah now, the flood isnow instilled.
Hey, I saw that your buildingthat you lived in is gone oh
yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
He's like neighborhood uh, which is uh.
I mean it gets referenced inthe batman right.
Well, yeah, he says like thatwas one of the hardest hit ones
and it's one of the poorestneighborhoods yeah, he's like so
that shit's gone.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
So I'm like, oh, so now they've already established
this is a place.
Now crime runs rampant.
There's a gap inside the powersystem.
Drugs are on short supplyeverybody, you know I'm like oh
shit this is gotham dog, yeahnow it makes sense for batman to
come out.
You know like now he's kickingass on a deadly basis versus him
, waiting for a big bad to comeout.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, absolutely I wonder, I mean, if batman's
gonna show up the way they'resetting up the series.
I could see like him notshowing up at all and I'll be
okay with it.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah if we just hit a reference of bruce wayne, I'd
be happy like, if like he wrapsit up like on the last episode
or something like he wraps it,like I can see him wrapping up
like the third season, wherelike couple pockets too big shit
happens.
And then like he beats hisenemies, and after he beats his
enemy he thinks he won andsuddenly like the windows
shatter right, like fucking sixfoot five bum, bum, bum, bum bum
(24:30):
, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum,bum, bum, bum, bum, bum bum.
You know yeah absolutely theApollo's dry as fuck.
It breaks his foot.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I know Health insurance breaks his foot.
Now talk.
Oh, they show his foot.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
That shit was fucked up.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Well, you know, I thought that was cool that he
gave him the penguin walk, hegave him the waddle.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
The waddle Because the fucked up foot and I was
like damn dog.
It makes it grounds it inreality so much.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
So you know what I loved about his acting was so
peak, bro.
This isn't.
This isn't uh like uh forscorsese.
This isn't fucking robert deniro.
This isn't the next italian mommovie, bro, this is for dc.
This is for batman dog.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
This was great I think, like anybody, I think
anybody could watch it too.
Like you don't have to be acomic book fan to like see this
show and guess what, and guesswhat you didn't have.
You don't have to be a comicbook fan to like see this show.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And guess what?
It's a gangster show on its own.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And guess what?
You don't have to watch 20movies to then watch this.
You got one movie in this.
Yeah and guess what I think.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Possibly you could jump into it without watching
the Batman.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
You could Possibly.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Because it gives you no backstory.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
But you know what, though, I'll say with this first
episode, it gives damn nearanything Marvel's put out in the
past Besides Loki.
It gives damn near anythingelse a run for its money.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah.
Tv show-wise 100% I think DC TVshows have always been peak.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I just love the groundiness of it, bro, how it's
like this is just a regulareveryday guy, starting from the
bottom, working on his way up,and you're like, oh, by the way,
he's a Batman villain.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
What, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
The guy that becomes like the hint.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, because there's no hint to Batman, it's all him
.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
At the end, we know how it ends it's either him or
Skull.
What's his name?
Skullface, not Skullface.
Blackskull.
Yeah, him, blacksk got them,like the city divided between
them, to point blank period.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
okay yeah, so, yeah, so it'd be cool to get a
reference to black skull bigmobsters I can see them becoming
like season two villain orsomething like that, absolutely
like long-term game 100 humangregor.
I want to see like how manymore references they're going to
be to like batman universe, tothe comics, because obviously,
uh, the batman movie kind ofgrounded very much in reality
like the riddler was nothinglike his comic revers version.
(26:38):
Yeah man?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
yeah, killer.
And then you have a terror,serial terror, yes the cat woman
, I mean an actual cat burglar,a legit cat burglar.
She was a legit cat burglar,she'd be fucking too.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And she throws it back a bit so how many of the
characters it sounds like whenthey beat it up how many of the
characters sounds like.
That's how it goes bro, he'sgotta hit it in slow motion too,
he has to bro anyway, bro, whatwere?
(27:12):
We saying oh how many, how manymore characters might be like
set up in this show,specifically because Sofia does
get her.
There's a scene where you findout a little bit more about her
background.
She's like what did they usedto call me?
They tell you the Hangman thatwas her character name in the
comic book run because she wasalso in a serial killer in the
(27:33):
comic book run.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That was her name, the Hangman.
That comes from the comic books.
Obviously she's not a comicbook character, which is very
much grounded in reality, butshe does have her comic book
name.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I think that's cool, but I also think it's going to
be dope that we're going to gether backstory of how she got
caught.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh yeah, we're going to see her in prison, like
somehow.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Cabal Paz, we're going to get Arkham dog, arkham
Asylum, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
There's a little bit.
It's like I'm not mad at whatyou did to me, or something.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
yeah, it's like do you regret what you did to me?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
He's like nah Nah.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I will never regret what you do to me.
You know what I like.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I never forget.
You know what I like.
All right, the Asylum lookssimilar to what Joker's does
Like.
Okay, from a totally differentreference, but the Joker.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I hope we do not get a Joker at all.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, no, no, no, I hope we don't.
It was in the Batman.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I know, but I hope we don't get him at all.
I hope he's just teasedthroughout the movie?
Oh yeah, Because Batman has somany more rogue villains yes,
the Gallery of Rogues.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Did you the little bit of news about the Batman
that came out?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
No, the second movie Wintertime when they're thinking
, mr Freeze.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, oh is it.
I didn't know.
I didn't hear about that.
I knew the wintertime.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Cold death to Mr Wayne Batman.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
The rumors are that it's going to be in wintertime
and maybe Mr Freeze will bethere, that'd action.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
He can still do it bro.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh, you're right, yeah, I understand why?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Why wouldn't it be recasted at all?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Let me ask you a better question who would be a
better Blade?
Wesley Snipes?
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You don't recast the ghost.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Bro, come on, bro you don't recast the ghost.
His shit was great.
You know he's a better actornow than what he was.
Everybody chill, Cool down.
You know what It'd be cool tosee?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
him get another attempt at it as Old man Freeze.
Remember when he did that hewas like cool as hell.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Chill.
Batman Forever is such a trip.
No, Batman and Robin Batman andRobin.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
My favorite scene is when he's wearing his coat and
he's telling all his minions tosing the Christmas song.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
They're all freezing their ass off.
I sick of this shit.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I'm fucked up.
Tim Burton, batman Universe Wassuch a trip.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, shit was funny.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Back to the penguin.
Who's gonna be?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
The next Frieza.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Remember when he fell and he had wings and shit and
he just like what.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I forgot about that part I guess you gotta rewatch
the 90s movies, bro?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Is it the one where, like the car, goes up in the
roof?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yes, I think that's the one where it goes straight
up.
No, that's Batman Foreverversus Two-Face.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It's Jason Two-Face.
Val Kilmer was a cool Batman.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
He wasn't terrible, it was just Jim, bro.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Jim wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
George Clooney was the worst.
I think it was the Sid.
What screwed Val Kilmer overwas the nips in the suit.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I mean the nips always screw everybody over, bro
.
Nips have never been good inthe suit, the gadgets were cool.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Nips have never been cool in suits.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
bro, you can't give me a cool superhero with nipples
that you can see in their suit.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
None.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Zero.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, why worry?
I think they just like fuck it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, fuck it.
His suit is so tight, you cansee his nipples, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Who was the guy that got by in costume design?
Nipples Trust bro.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Trust.
If you can see his abs, you cansee his nips.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Why wouldn't you be able to see?
Come on bro.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You see his V-cup, but you don't see his nipples?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Where's the aesthetics?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
He can open it up to get some fresh air.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Literally he said dynamite areolas.
Literally said dynamite areolas, dynamite areolas bottom nips
look he takes a look.
They got the bad nipples likepiercings on the nipples.
Nice bang, oh wow.
So anyway, bob, bob, bob Bob.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Bob Bob.
Oh man, I do want to see moreof Robert Pattinson's Batman.
I do.
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I miss a Ben Affleck Batman bro.
I miss a Ben Affleck Batman bro.
I miss that coming in.
I miss coming in.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
After re-watching the Batman, Robert Pattinson is
actually a go-to.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
He's great, but I would have liked to see some
more Batman killing.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Batman coming in bro.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
The only time we get it.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Snyder's the only guy who's?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
like Batman, kills, breaking necks and shit.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
A 9mm point blank.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Just one shot him with a 9mm point blank.
Just one time, bro.
That's all I needed.
You know, he didn't double tap,he actually got stabbed.
He was like fuck, I got stabbed.
He shot his ass or broke hisarm.
I forgot what it was.
That was so badass when he tookthat crate and he fucking
crushed it over his head.
Not talk, batman, he's deadwild.
No, he's not, he's pretendinghe's bleeding from his ears.
Oh man, bob, he's dead Wild.
(31:58):
No, he's not, he's pretendinghe's bleeding from his ears.
Oh man, bob.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Bob, bob, back to the Penguin.
We go Back to the matter ofhand.
Back to the matter of hand, whowill be the one to?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
take over Gotham.
Who's going to run the?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
family.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Who's going to run the city?
He doesn't ruin it with anylike goofy laugh or anything
cheesy.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
There's a lot more humor in just one hour of the
penguin than there was in theBatman.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Gotta work in that.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Not too far I was impressed how many moments I
actually laughed.
It wasn't even like funny,funny.
I don't think it was even meantto be funny.
It was just to show you howcringe Penguin is.
There was one moment I wantedto bring up.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
There was one moment where I fucking laughed out loud
Because of how funny thatfucking was and I wanted to
bring it up.
I can't remember what it was,but the fact that he had not
that it was just the radio, hehad the CD dog.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
He had the CD.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
He was just jamming that.
That shit was turned all theway up.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
dog, like that's my shit All the way to be a drug
dealer Working that 9 to 5.
They're moving kilos.
No, I'm a pot.
You know why?
No, it makes sense, Bro.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
there was layers to that song because he's just like
the brown man At the very end.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
At the very end, they play this song.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
And the way the song starts is like I wake up, I
drink a cup of ambition, yeah,and I gotta get my day started
and say let's go, you know let'sgo get this money, kind of
thing, and it's the same thingand I'm like that's the way he
feels nine to five involves gunsand drugs.
Yeah, but he's like he's likeI'm working for the man and
doing this and doing that.
I was like the man is thefamily.
I just thought it was so funny.
Layers and specifically aboutthe Layers.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Specifically about the ambition and the working to
like move your way up.
I do like this idea that youknow Gotham City has always been
this depressing place where,like, nobody makes a name.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But if you think about it, gotham City is also.
There's also opportunity tomake a name for yourself.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You like it, so they just set that up Like okay maybe
there is hope in Gotham.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
City, not the best kind of criminal well yeah, he's
like, he's like.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You can keep making it selling rims, trying to
barely get by, or yeah, or youcan finally make some money yeah
, what do you?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
want to do I was like bro, fuck these rims, you know
and it was a kid from like the,you know a poor neighborhood
that just got destroyed.
I was like I'll take this.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I mean yeah, I mean, what are you gonna do shit, I'm
working for him, bro, workingthat 9 to 5.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You see what he does, bro.
He took him to the storagewhere he's pushing that stuff
which I think that toxin isgoing to be that scarecrow toxin
, that drugs coming in thespecial drug.
That's my theory.
It's going to be a fear thingfrom the scarecrow.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
If that replaced drops, yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Because I do like the way they're setting up these
new drugs that's coming in.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I do.
I wonder if he's going to fuckit up, because I'm curious.
He's just like whoever runs thedrops runs the streets.
We know this and I'm like, ohso they're already talking like
this is just street level shit,heroes for Hire kind of shit,
and I do like that when they goto a plant where they're like
everybody respects him there.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
He does get respect, and by his people yeah, he might
not be a high level in theFalcone family.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
But he ain't no scrub .
He was just a helper, yeah, butyeah, he ain't no fucking scrub
.
Yeah, he's not low level yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
He had his own club.
They have to drive him in.
Like hey, we're going to tellyou in person that we're going
to shut down the operation.
We're like a gangster.
It's not like that's like HRkind of shit.
Like hey.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah.
Come in for a sit down, he eventells him he's like, I'm giving
you a courtesy I don't have togive you this shit?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Oh yeah, and that's why he's trying to leave town.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Okay, trying to leave town, right yeah, so that's a
good segue Getting back.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, oh no, before at the warehouse.
I do like the littleconversations that he has.
He makes like quick decisions.
He's like, oh, this guy justcame, all right, let's see if we
can take him out.
And he just said some shitright off, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, I did.
I like that.
He was like all right, takethis motherfucker to the back,
we don't want to get no bloodanywhere.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Oh, he grabs the shit that he got from the safe.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Hey, I need you to run over this to the DA let's be
pals.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Let's be pals.
I need you to go over and makesure that it comes from me,
gotcha penguin.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
He turns around, he gives him his back as a table
bro.
He's like calling out orders,yeah, or look, the doc is like
man, we saved about 30 of theproduct, mind you, we got it
from sewage waste.
Well, fuck it.
The people don't know won'thurt him, ain't that right?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
yes, sir he's still gonna drop him that scientist
might be somebody also.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I hope Since you mentioned Scarecrow.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
He can maybe fuck with the formula or whatever.
He's a doc yeah.
But I don't know if Scarecrow,but I just thought he was going
to be.
I thought he might be somecharacter in general, like
that's what I was looking for.
It's like what character mightbecome something.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, that would be interesting.
That would be really cool, man,because I do like the idea that
I mean in the movie the Batman.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It was set up that he was only two years into being
the Batman.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
So this is Batman year one.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, as far as we know, yeah, like there's up and
coming, like these are originstories for all of their roguery
.
Yeah, the whole entire universewhich I loved.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It's so original, man , yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It's so original, take man or wobble.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, it's a fresh take.
You know, this is like again,like the Last of Us.
The Last of Us was a reallygood game.
The story was amazing period.
But that's why you're like it'sa good, because it was set up
to be good.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
This was just hey, bro, we've had in a long time If
you were to tell me it's a oneepisode special and that's all
we're getting.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I would have been like I'm ready for the movie.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I'm ready for the movie.
Yeah, it was an hour and a halfright and that was an hour and
ten minutes Bro it felt like howmany episodes were you in?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like five or something Eight.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Eight, yeah, eight episodes were on.
Thank you, suki for all thefacts.
Anyway, no, you said it rightBefore he runs off, though, at
the sit-down a really good scenetoo he's being told by HR hey,
we're going to shut down yourbranch.
(38:14):
That was good.
I like that.
I didn't even notice it.
I thought I was going to get abetter reaction.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
It was so smooth.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I thought I was going to get a better reaction.
I thought I was going to get abetter reaction.
I was like, yeah, so HRC cantalk to him.
They're going to shut down yourbranch.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Anyways, while they're talking to him, I'm
shutting down the plant, Noteven in focus.
You see this figure coming in.
And we know it's Sofia, butthis is her introduction, so we
don't know who she is.
But it's not in focus and shejust comes up and it kind of
changes the mood in the room.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Because the other two guys know that she's walking up
, so they feel it and they kindof change the way they're
talking.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
They'd be quiet and also, yeah, the music isn't
tough anymore.
Also, the music changes likethe tension rises and you're
like who is this menacing?
Like she's already a menace andshe's not even in focus yeah, I
like that.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
It was that sense of power.
You're right, like that's thepower, like standing over his
shoulder yeah, she's over's,over her, over his shoulder.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
So you know, metaphorically, figuratively,
she's also, she's already umover him, over him, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Right, I don't, I don't mean to skip around, but I
think it's important to you toshow you like the level of power
.
I want to add onto it Cause andthen we're going to bring about
right.
But I want to bring about likethe level where she's like let's
go have lunch.
And Penguin didn't say likeokay.
Later he was like oh, you'retalking about now, aren't you?
Like that's how powerful she is.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Like you can't tell her no, You're going to say no
to this.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, we should totally do lunch.
No, I meant now, oh yeah, ofcourse.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, I got shit to do Right off.
She starts asking questionsImmediately.
My brother was supposed to.
You're bringing up this planabout a drug deal.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
My brother was supposed to go to your club.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
What are you doing?
You're saying this drug deal,you're doing it as your own name
.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
He's missing and all of a sudden, you're either
really stupid or reallyconfident that he's not coming
back.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Right, Okay, well let's go back and redress it.
So he's getting pushed out.
He does a Hail Mary and hepitches the brother's idea,
which is already dead Right, thesister hears it oh how you know
about my brother's plan.
And then she asks him.
He don't answer immediately.
And then she asks his ass tolunch.
It's at lunch that she thencalls his ass out and was like
hey so my brother and I wereworking on this plan.
(40:24):
How the fuck do you know aboutit and why would you pass it off
on your own?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Oh shit, and I love the way that he thinks Quink is
like we're both in the dark.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, I can't believe he lied to me, bro, and that's
the thing about Oski.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Oski, oski, oski.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm not from the show , I'm not from the show.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I'm not Oz Ozki in the mix, like she said.
The tension again is displayedagain, because I was kind of at
the edge of my seat Me too.
What are you going?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
to say what are you going to say, bro?
I don't know, bro, I was likeyou got me, bro, I'm cut.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh, he's shy about it .
Speaker 3 (41:05):
He made me want to do it just because I, like this,
can't pull that dress, but hekind of he didn't hold it at the
end.
At the end of it I was likedamn, did he really just in the?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
beginning you know it's bullshit.
When he starts it is terrible.
It goes to show me charactersabout.
He's like quick on his feet,like yeah, he's still a smart
character.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
He's very witty, yes, very witty, absolutely evil
genius right it's like a kingpinyeah, yeah, that level
intellect shit.
Yes, yeah, that's how.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I think that's why he's standing up to be the king
thing.
I've got them yeah at thispoint, and uh, after the lunch,
though, they're walking away andthey're like saying their
goodbyes and she's like umeverybody everybody doubted you
doubted you.
It's like I know you're morethan I knew you were great.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I knew you were destined for.
I knew you were capable of more.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I know you were capable of more yeah and in that
moment you can see.
See that, okay, first of allshe's kind of crazy, kind of hot
.
Yes, very Both.
The craziness makes her hotter.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
The way she looked at it, the way she was dressed all
black when he was gettingtortured.
She was fine.
I thought it was kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Bro, absolutely that's jumping.
But yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I mean and the fact that she wields his power.
I mean and the fact that shewields his power.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I mean it's, I mean it's cool, I mean I get it.
I get it.
I see the appeal.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Don't want to get too much into it.
But you can see in that momentthat she still like bouts him
and she's still even playingwith him, oh yeah yeah, she's
hyping him up absolutely, youknow she's fucking with him and
that's what he knows.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
That's why immediately he goes home.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
He's like I'm out of here I'm out.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
He's like mom, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I fucked up.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
If she don't know, I'm already caught.
It's a wrap, and that's it.
But his mom's sick, though wedon't know what she's sick of.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
The tub is full of pills.
What the fuck are you talkingabout?
Speaker 3 (42:41):
She's talking about the other kids, which would be
his brothers, but they're deadat this point for some rhyme or
reason, because he's alreadysaid that.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Or they might be.
Well, I'm assuming, we'reassuming, I'm assuming, yeah,
we're assuming, but yeah, thatwould make sense.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
But that would make sense.
If the kids are dead, they'vebeen dead for a long time and
she's talking about them.
She's talking about the.
He doesn't correct her, he'slike alright, well, let's make
sure you switch your meds.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I mean going back To what we said In the beginning.
I mean she tells him it's likemy man raised no bitch.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, you sound like A fucking pussy boy.
You sound like A fucking pussyboy.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Dude Fuck Tim O yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
It's like you didn't.
What did she say?
You didn't react Like you.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Oh yeah, you knew what you were doing.
You knew what you were doing,it wasn't fear.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
It was instinctual.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Damn bro.
Somebody was fucking with youand you didn't like it, so you
took care of it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I was like the way she hyped it.
Bro, what are you going to doabout the city?
Speaker 3 (43:40):
This is your moment.
You seize this power, you takethis and you make this something
for yourself.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I was listening like, okay, yeah, the fucking podcast
is going to take over.
This is your moment.
You seize this power, you takethis and you make this something
for yourself.
You know I was listening like,okay, yeah, the fucking podcast
is gonna take over, let's go.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah, bro, why are you?
Doing the key monitor facts,bro the mom bro, the power of
the mother.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
The power of the mother.
You can see that he says it.
Uh, it was a shift, whateverthat darkness is, because I mean
, if he's a light character or agood character, then he would,
you know, try to run away.
But then that darkness Takesover in him and he's like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Parental support is a motherfucker, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Dude, dude, dude, bro .
Like you hear that, bro, you'reone of the bounces, bro From
your own parents.
Facts, bro.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
You're not just going to run the block, you're going
to run the town.
You know what I'm saying?
You ready, make moves.
I'm waiting.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Shit.
All right, mom.
Interesting that he does set upa whole plan he does After that
, after that, a whole everythingwe talk about that.
Meet with Mar.
He was Salvatore.
Yeah, I'm here to offer myservices to you.
Yeah, I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
They brought him out because I thought he was dead.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, I thought he was dead.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I thought the whole point of the Batman was like you
know, you got rid of him, wegot rid of him.
I didn't realize like we getrid of him.
He's in jail.
Yeah, he's in jail.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
They busted his drug operation, yeah, to offer me
services.
But I don't think that's why hewas, because we find out
towards the end.
That whole meeting was a play.
That whole meeting was a playhe doesn't even really want to
offer him or work with him atall.
What that whole meeting wasabout was about giving him the
ring.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
That's all it was, everything was about that I
didn't realize it.
I was like, oh, and I thoughtthat was his Hail Mary.
Then my last ditch ever for youto trust me, and it was.
I mean, as far as the audienceknew we were aware of, that's
what it was.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
And then obviously the big reveal is fuck you in
that ring yes which, uh, I meanthat was the big thing at the
end and that was his whole play.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
He was gonna he got a war he got big to uh drive that
car into the house that shecame in clutch with that, with
the body but I like how he triedto talk shit, so remember he's
he was like bro, we had a plan,what happened.
We had a plan, what happened.
And that's when he talks aboutthe whole next one.
But real quick, the torture.
That shit was wild.
The fucking fish, the metalfish wire whatever the fuck it
was.
(45:54):
It looked painful, it was metalor something, dog, it was
cutting into his ass, or it wasfishing wire.
I couldn't tell you.
You know, probably fishing wire, yeah, yeah yeah Like, oh that
shit, there's nothing you can do.
It was all the way to the bone.
Yeah, and it's all meat.
Bro, there's nothing here.
It's not until you get to thebone on the shoulder you stop it
with that bitch.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Oh, except for Gracie , then.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
They put him in a whole bodysuit.
It's still him.
Oh shit, he acted that good.
That motherfucker was gettingcut up.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I keep thinking it's somebody else.
I keep forgetting it's ColinFarrell, bro.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
There was only one moment where I was like, oh, it
looks like Colin Farrell, onemoment out of the entire hour
and 10 minutes there was onemoment where you could see it,
and especially because I thinkhe's Scottish, yeah.
English, irish, irish but forlike one line, his real Scottish
accent came out.
Yeah, he did.
The Hulk is Mayweather.
Yeah, that came out.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
And I was like ooh.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You can see his character.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
But other than that he's like you forget that he's
in there Phen in there,phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
I mean all the tony bro, give him the big gal bro
oscar tony, whatever they gavefor the tv level max award.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
I saw I saw an interview that uh, being in that
suit, he's just constantlysweating.
So they, they made the the setslike super cold, but everybody
was so cold that they couldn'tact, you know.
So then they set up a coolingtent just for him him, just for
him, so he like acts for twominutes.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
And then goes.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, he gets so hot that in between takes he has to
go in the cooling tent becauseof how hot that shit is, Damn
and how cold that shit is.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
You gotta be quick on those acting.
Yeah, yeah, you can't get thiswrong.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
He's gotta give the take they cut.
He goes in the other tent.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
That's the thing, bro .
Speaker 3 (47:42):
That's commitment to the character.
That is commitment to thecharacter, 100%.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
You got to sit down for hours for that makeup, you
know, for that mask to come in.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
It's so random.
Let me be committed to playingthe penguin Of all characters.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
That's what I'm saying.
Like if this is what DCproduces as the future of their
superhero movies, bro, I'm allfor it.
Like if at that point now westart talking about movies or or
superhero movies being oscarsare nominated, you know, I'm
saying ryan reynolds and, uh,deadpool, I mean, I don't think
that.
No, no, no, they're not gonnaget it.
But the fact that they're evengood, but the performances went
(48:15):
oscar worthy hugh jackman wasgood but anyway, I guess it was
good he was good.
I'm not.
I mean tell you what, let mesee the competition and then
I'll, then I'll, I'll knock himout, and then there'll be a guy.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Cries about his shoe in the journal in the middle of
nowhere.
Yeah, I don't see if that shityeah.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Anyway, I digress.
Going back to like again.
This could be like Some seriousagain.
Emmys bro, Right here in mymind.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
With this.
I kind of want James Gunn's NewDC Universe, Like I want the
Batman To be included in it backto back, to back to back with
this I kind of want james gunn'snew um dc universe, like I want
the batman to be included inthe main dc universe, like the
new superman movie, the newjames gunn superman movie.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
I would like it to somehow be connected to I think
it's gonna be his own thing,though, right like the batman's
universe, snyder verse is gonnabe or not snyder also the joker
what's his face?
James gunn?
No, no, the guy.
The guy who's actually mattreeves.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
It's like the matt reeves, uh batman universe right
he's got his own separate thingyeah, but I mean it'll be cool
if they somehow connect oh yeah,absolutely your universe.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, bro, there's mother boxes.
I mean, there's something withthe penguin.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
It's like well, if they could do a whole side story
in the penguin, and you knowwhy it's not connected to the
bigger universe?
Speaker 3 (49:20):
yeah, and there's still so many more characters.
Again, his rogue gallery isstill so vast, yeah, so vast.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, guys, all right , thank you for coming to this
meeting, any predictions beforewe end.
Yeah, Victor Saaz is him.
It's him, Victor Saaz.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Okay, so the kid is going to become a super guest.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, and I'm hoping that there's like three seasons,
you know, after every otherBatman movie, and it concludes
with Batman picking up thecasino.
He becomes Cobblepot, thenumber one gangster in all of
Gotham, and then suddenly Batmancomes in and just cleans him up
.
You know, he was just waitingfor him to become like
consolidate the power.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
I like it, you know it'd be cool if he broke him all
the way down or threw him backin jail and then he has to get
out and start back again, butthis time he already has the
grounding.
So now he quickly rebuilds hisempire and gets better.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Season 4, you know, I think we might get a Batman
cameo this first season.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
But I mean, that would be fucking badass.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
You know what we're going to get?
Some cool people, I think.
Introduce their cameo in ArkhamAsylum.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I'll say that that was going to be my take.
I think whenever we getSophia's backstory in Arkham, we
we're probably going to meetsome of the female and we get a
clay face.
That'd be crazy.
Or, I don't know, maybe a bigname, maybe we meet Dr Harling
Quinsell.
That'd be cool.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Before the shit goes south.
That'd be dope.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Because the Joker did get the easter egg and the
Batman.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
I mean or Dr Ugo.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Dr Ugo, it's a guy, or Dr Ugo, dr Ugo?
Yeah, it's a guy named Dr Ugoyeah.
He played a big part in thevideo game.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, oh okay, okay, okay, Like a psychologist bad
guy.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
That would be interesting to introduce again
the Arkham aspect of it thegames.
We're going to get the Arkham.
I played 1 and 2.
The third one.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
I never played it, but 1 and 2 were awesome.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
No, I mean, I think that's what they're talking
about in the next Batman, inaddition to also doing the
Wintertime.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Oh no, year 1 was also to play that one, so that
was also close, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I just heard about that.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
And then Depression, and Moronison is Blackgate,
blackgate Pen.
So again, just more big names.
I mean, the names are there.
Yeah, there's so manyopportunities, so I think we're
definitely.
But then again, I mean, theBatman wasn't a movie, that was
like Easter egg happy, that'strue.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yes, if you guys got a chance to.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
So I think, the penguin.
There might also be a thingwhere the penguin is just going
to stick to the plot.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Drop it in the comments.
I want to know if it was.
Was it a link like RatalataRight, I forgot about the
Ratalata bro, ratalatacom.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
I fucking forgot about that shit.
No, guns.
Man, that's your rule.
Alright, guys, I think this isa good episode.
Yeah, we're wrapping it up.
I think we're done with thismeeting.
Thank you for joining thefamily.
(52:02):
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Speaker 3 (01:32):
Guys, we got a hell of a show for you this week.
I hope you guys enjoyed our bit.
We're talking everything.
Penguin, penguin, penguin Justcame out on HBO Max.
The DC Universe is getting wildy'all.
Colin Farrell, all thegreatness of the show.
It's going to be awesome.
You guys ready for the episode?
I'm ready, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm ready.
Let's have fun with it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Let's go Welcome back everybody.
Woo-hoo and we're back Welcometo this thing.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Have your guys meet my guys out by the pier.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And they're going to talk about the show.
I talk about this guy.
I know a guy.
They call him a pinguino.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
A pinguino, oswald Cobblepot.
Oswald.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Cot.
He's a good friend, he's afriend of ours, he's a friend of
the family.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know he works with us.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
This is our guy, he's a very well-known character.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He's well-off, he does the work that we don't want
to do.
Welcome back Tony, Welcome backSteve, Not for real.
Cut the music.
Cut the music.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Cut the bit.
It's WBN Podcast.
We're back and this episodewe're going to talk about the
new series that just dropped.
It's only one episode, but wefelt it and we want to do a full
episode breakdown.
A few spoilers ahead.
We're going to start with aspoiler free review and then
we're going to get in dig intosome real spoilers.
Are you guys cool with that?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh yeah, absolutely let's go.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
All right.
So first off, let me start off.
As a preparation to watch thepenguin, I rewatched Batman.
Uh, as a preparation to watchthe penguin, I rewatched the
Batman.
Oh, I forgot how good of amovie it is man.
You rewatched it too recently,too right.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I did, man, it's peak , it's peak, it's peak.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And you know it was funny cause I thought I was like
, okay, they're going to do awhole spin on series on the
penguin.
I mean, you know, I I forgothow small his part really is in
the Batman.
Yeah, like he's just a sidecharacter.
He has like maybe four scenes.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, because he's a minuscule character If he
doesn't get pulled out of thecar with the heels on.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, like you don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So I thought it was funny that I didn't realize how
much of a small part he had inthe batman.
But uh, it was definitelysomething you remember like the
little humor that there wasn't abatman came from the penguin.
I also want to say that yes hewas a little bit of a humor,
humor um relief yeah comicrelief in the batman and I love
that about that, because he's solike in colin farrell man.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean I don't want to get into colin farrell but
the acting, because you'realready bringing up the movie In
the movie alone.
We couldn't believe it was him.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, I remember that I was like that's Colin Farrell
, bro.
Nah, there's no way.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And the performance we're like my God, bro, that's
Penguin bro, he transformed yeah.
Yeah, and like bro, it's like.
So Heath Ledger is known as thecopy him.
Bro.
This guy did something likecompletely left field for
something, that's you know acouple.
Yes, there's source materialeverywhere.
Yes, obviously yeah yeah becausethere's so many iterations of
this specific character right,but but his own, like person
(04:54):
that he brought into thecharacter you think is an actor
that they put scars in his faceand it's somebody completely
different.
You know, you don't know.
It's fucking a guy that youthat does really play like the
heartthrob, or the guy thatplays like the uh, the action
hero yeah, he's playing the goodlooking guy yeah, remember,
phone booth bro oh man, I lovethat movie.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That was one of my favorite I forgot all about that
shit.
I can't wait to be clipped ifyou don't hang up, you know,
I'll kill somebody bro you know,the movie doesn't work as long
as it's me click.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It doesn't call the pizza man.
Hey, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It ain't me click.
It doesn't age well, becauseGen Z and Generation Alpha would
probably be like what thefuck's a phone booth.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
What the fuck is a phone booth?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Why?
Why is he there, bro?
Why is?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
he called that.
Where's his cell phone?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Just FaceTime him you know, but that guy that guy is
Oswald Cobblepot, bro you know,yeah, man, and he delivered the
whole, the whole movie, like thewhole plot line, his character,
and there were some things thatyou know, like the logo itself,
the penguin, the red label, ispretty much an homage to the
Sopranos, which is like red, ithas a gun, but in this case it's
(05:57):
a penguin, it's a P, it's apenguin shape.
And I didn't know like there isinstances in the comics where
Cobblepot interacts with his momyeah, but in the Sopranos it's
the complete opposite.
This is why I believe PenguinSolo is the Tony crew, because
he has something that not evenBatman doesn't have, which is a
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motherly support.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
That was one of the most impactful scenes because
she was like, hey, I got to getyou out, mean you jumped uh like
you pulled on me, you pulled onme really hard there but uh,
yes but yes, spoilers right offthe bat, the fucking bad
spoilers right off the bat, butit was great.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, because that was one of my favorite scenes,
because his mom basically saidmama ain't race no bitch mama
said knock you out, motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'm sorry, I was like damn we can backtrack, because
that's like the middle Before weget to the end.
That's the middle, so we canstart from there.
Start at the beginning, likepretty much introducing this
character that was Batman.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yes, so going back to the movie, I mean the movie the
series.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
We gotta talk about this guy that keeps messing up
with our city.
We got them city.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
He be dressed as a fucking bat.
As a fucking bat, who is?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
this guy.
I heard he got Falcone brotherIn my territory Falcone was a
small fry.
He's the guy that killedFalcone.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Falcone's, our fall guy.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh, that's right.
Falcone's just a fall guy.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, it's crazy that they did kill Falcone, because
Falcone is like one of the bigBatman characters.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He killed one of the main mafia mob characters in the
Batman world.
It does leave like this vacuumVacuum, yeah, vacuum of power.
Yes, so I do like that.
That's the setup for the series.
It's like after the Batmanmovie, because the series is set
up.
It's been a week.
It's been a week.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It in my movie because the series is set up
right after it's been a week.
It's been six days.
You see the same scene.
Yeah, you see the same scene inthe movie where he's looking
out at the city from it beingdamaged.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm thinking that scene where he's looking out at
the city at the end of the moviehe's picturing like the next
steps to take.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I do really like that .
That's the premise.
This is set five days after.
The movie is basically thefallout.
They took out carmine falcone,the big bad, the big boss, and
now who's gonna take over thecity?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I love that he was so early on it, bro, that it was
so soon after it happened.
He still had time to go breakinto his uh, his spot and steal
the dirt that he had oneverybody and in my mind I'm
like he owns the city right now.
With that information, he ownsthe city.
Oh, what he picked up in thatenvelope?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, was that Harvey Dent?
That's my theory.
Is that Harvey Dent?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh, the general DA.
It was like a DA, I think itwas, because, if you think
Harvey has a gambling problemand people didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Because he knows.
I've just done my guess.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I'm just shooting shit here.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I think it Because there was a picture of him with
the casino playing blackjack.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Who was the person that was there?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's what I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you guys scan the ?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
QR code.
That's what I'm saying, that'swhat I think.
There's a QR code, you guysdidn't see that in the show.
No, he's like scan it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Scan the QR code.
He's saying that and it sayssomething about Two-Face.
You could hear it figure.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Hey, is that harvey?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
it's something connected, that's interesting
because there is a connectionthere, uh, with one of the
characters in the series is likein the comics.
Well, I guess we're gonna jumparound yeah, obviously it's a
great show.
Check it out but um what's hername?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
the daughter falcone yeah, oh, the crazy bitch
falcone falcone, but what's hername?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
falcone daughter alexis sonia sonia sophia sophia
sophia, I'm so sorry, sophiaFalcone.
Like in the comic run that shecomes from, she, her connection
ends With like Harvey Dent, likeshe gets shot by Two-Face, oh,
or something like that.
She, she hasn't made that manyappearances.
She's actually a character thatwas first introduced In the
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Long Halloween Storyline.
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Which Long Halloween is like one of the greatest.
Yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Which focuses more on the crime than Falcone series.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Is this Long Halloween?
No, no, no, no, no, that's hush.
It's hush, you're right, sorry,yeah, it's hush.
You know what's funny theactress.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
The sequel Dark Victory.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The, the actress.
She looks so petite and prettythat looks like Rocky.
Remember Rocky's wife.
What was her name?
Oh, from the first, rockyAdrian.
She was the daughter in theGodfather, she was the one that
was getting married and all thatstuff.
She's the Godfather's daughterin the first one.
She plays that pivotal role.
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The daughter of Don Corleone.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
This actress?
No, no, no, adrianenne Adrienne, adrienne actress, I didn't
know that that's so cool.
Yeah, that's her.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And she looks petite and very pretty, just like the
actress that plays Sofia Falconethat you see another reference
like they take that from movies.
In this case, they picked thatactress, her.
Yeah, but she looks like if youGoogle.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Christine Miloti.
Is that the actress of the?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Penguin.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, okay, I think so.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I don't know.
He's trying to find theoriginal one from the Godfather.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh, okay, From the Penguin.
Her name is Christine Miloti.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Thank you, Suki, for forwarding that so she plays the
plays like the daughter Of OfDon Corleone, and so, if you see
her, talia Shire.
Talia Shire is her name.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
She looks like the Like Christine Migliori.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yes, and that's the.
The new Sofia, and that's thewhole point of it and that's the
point of it In the movie she is.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh, you're saying, this is the homage, the homage
of the actress.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Someone's so petite and pretty because just like the
book, is written that she'svery pretty and petite in the
books as well and she is thedaughter of the ma family.
But in this case, in in thehalloween, because it has come
from like the actress they chosespecifically is to like give
her like a you know, hey, lookat the godfather, remember that,
look how you know she lookslike.
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But there's many scenes notjust like the actress but like,
for example, this scene where umkabo pa's invited um to sit
down oh yeah yeah, that'sreminding me of scarface.
Remember the scene like we spokeabout it a while ago.
He's like, hey, I'll make acouple million here, I'll make a
couple million there.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I'll make a couple million there, you know, because
, oh, you make million dollarmoves on your own.
Now, is that what you do?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Tony Is that what you do, and what does he call it?
Being called up, being calledup to a family.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Oh, yeah, yeah, what is it being summoned or
something?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It's basically something like what does this
mean?
That you're being called?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, sit down, sit down, sit down.
You come and sit down here.
Sit down, you think I'm goingto leave this place safe?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We got to talk about your operation.
We're going to shut down thedrops in your plant.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
We're losing money here.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, hold up, shut down the plant.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
We're losing money here.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Can we go back, rewind the tape right off the
bat.
That's where the penguinactually like.
I was like okay, this is gonnabe a good show it's gonna be a
good show.
Same thing, same thing I saidokay, I don't know if you guys
watch someone in marketing, butuh, I watched a little bit of
the marketing and there was ateaser at the end of the batman
if you watch it on max where theteaser was like, yeah, this is
a story about the vacuum ofpower and who's going to take
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Cobra, is it Al Falcone or SofiaFalcone?
So they were setting up that AlFalcone was going to be a
character that was going to bethroughout the series.
If you watched some of themarketing, al Falcone was
supposed to be like you know,there was going to be a
power struggle between alfalfacone and sofia falcone maybe
hilarious popped off in thefirst five minutes you know, the
penguin just double taps, himtriple taps triple tap to the
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first five minutes.
Yeah, bro, I mean he put likeyeah, it was, he unloaded that
clip, he got that yeah, he wentoff on his ass, bro.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I loved it, oh, but I mean he was open with that's
where he fucked up.
Yeah, he was honest with himand homeboy saw right through it
.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I thought, I thought, uh, and it really does give you
, like a better idea of what thecharacter is, because uh, yeah,
what he believes in up thischaracter like to like.
Maybe you want to root for theguy when he tells you the story
of, uh, calipresi, yeah, and hetells you a story about this
gangster that was well liked bythe community and he took care
of the community and that's so.
You want me to be like thisfucking nobody?
Is that what you want?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
me to be?
Because this fucking nobody.
Is that what you want me to be?
Because it's going to be easierfor you to take what the fuck
is mine.
Huh.
Is that what you?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Or is that your?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
dream.
Yeah, oh, that's your dream,isn't it?
Hey man, he got in his ass,though I ain't going.
I felt bad, I was like I waslike yeah, and then he's like no
.
Oh shit, I felt bad.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
That was a great scene.
Yeah, he laughed at him bro.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And I liked that, that dichotomy of it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I liked that about that character, about Pigman,
because he is like rational,like you see that Throughout
that, the first episode alonewhen he like I'll reason it out
with you, I'll talk you out, youknow I'm gonna be nice, you
know he's gonna give you allBusiness opportunity, you know,
and like no, he's like fuck it,let's business opportunity.
No, he's just like fuck it,let's do it.
He doesn't have to sit down, hedoes it when he goes to the
jail, and we'll talk about it injust a second.
First he becomes like hey, I'mhere to offer my services, I'm
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here to be your friend.
Even with Sofia they havedinner.
Hey, what do I know?
He's a drunkie, he's alwayslike nice, I like that about
couple pot.
Like every time he has to sitdown with anybody, first he
talks it out and then you knowif I get like, like, like, like,
if he has to that's aninteresting take on it, because
the way I saw it was hedescribed his character.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
He's just like I go to these meetings, I go to these
sit downs, I, I, I pretend tobe small, I make them feel big
and I go about my business yes,and I was like that's exactly
what he does.
I was like he makes it.
Whatever you need, man, youknow I'm fucking.
I'm here to help out.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, you know.
However, I can be of assistance.
I mean, he's playing acharacter, basically, yeah, and
he knows it.
He knows the character.
I'm the dude disguised as itshows you, like the light in the
character, like, okay, he wantsto be like this Calabrese
character where he's like, uh,respected by everybody.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
By the community.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, Take care of his people.
So you see that lighting hischaracter, you see a little bit
of lighting his eyes.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And then what'd you see right after when he shoots
him?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
you see the penguin, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
You see the darkness.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
You see how much of uh um, you see basically how
much darkness he really hasagain it's awesome you could
kind of see, you could kind ofsee, this is the seeds for what
he's likely to become yes howmuch darker he's likely to
become yeah because, I'm likeyeah, which is also the theme of
sopranos too like the wholeidea you're writing with tony as
it becomes like a capo and asit becomes boss and the evilness
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he had to do to become bosswhich is another, which is
obvious theme again, but like itmakes me think of the therapist
thing that you talked about.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
He's just like working through his bullshit.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
He finally gets to be the ultimate boss, and I'm like
you see, you see the balls inPenguin, because he comes out.
You got the balls in thefucking ball and he, he comes
out and just blasts it Clack,clack, clack, clack.
Hey, you're the wrong fuckingnight to fuck with me, man.
Yeah, bro, that was so good, Igotta say he's a short guy,
right, but he was like suddenly8'10".
(16:52):
Yes, I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Do you see all those scenes where he's like, you know
, he's just like how about thewaddle?
Yeah, bro he's being a bitch tolike other characters like I'm
just, you know, giving them whatthey want, but he himself, he's
a gangster.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
He will like you know , start shooting.
I'll cut you like a fuckingfish when he was being chased,
he just you know, he took outone guy by himself.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
He did you know it is funny because he does show the
light that you're talking about.
Because, like after like, theyburied the first, the guy that
killed the first five minutes.
What was his name?
Al?
They throw him in the backseatof that car.
He told the guy to help him outand he's like, hey, you should
turn around and see that sunset.
You know, put him out like adog.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Like what the fuck dog, that was wild.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
They put that light out real quick bro.
He's like look, man, you knowwho the fuck we just killed.
It's a lot easier to put you inthe bag bro Because he's right,
he's 100% right, bro, you knowwhat they'll do to you the whole
time he was setting up, he'slike, oh, he's going to kill him
right here.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, I thought he was going to show more of the
penguin being penguin.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Well, no, no, no, caught when he's like the little
bet.
We caught the little bastardthat was with you and I was like
oh, they got him, bro.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I thought it was gonna be a plot twist yeah I was
like, oh man, he's gonna throwhim under the bus.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
That's fucked up.
And I was like, oh, it's thisother kid.
Fuck that guy, bro.
Boom, is that what you wantedme to do?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
yeah, it is so it's the whole hour.
It worked out.
It worked out great.
But you know what In that?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
moment for me.
In that moment.
I was like ooh you, little ratbastard, you do anything to save
your skin, won't you?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
She said it, she called him out for it.
That's what my thing was.
You don't give a fuck aboutanybody's life, but your own.
He's right.
What would you do for thisfamily?
But yeah, the whole hour younever know if this big kid His
name is Big right, victorAguilar, you know it's like.
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Is he going to be dead by theend of the episode?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Is he going to?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
make it all the way I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, they're saying that.
It may be Like they're pushing.
These are comments.
I saw Victor Zaz.
He may be Victor Zaz, the guythat every time he kills
somebody he causes a scar here.
I saw Victor Zaz, he may beVictor.
Zaz.
Victor Zaz is the guy thatevery time he kills somebody, he
causes a scar here.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
No way he in some of the runs he serves penguins.
Yeah, he works with penguins.
They got some connections inthe comic book.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, he'll do jobs for penguins.
Yeah, hey, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
That would make sense .
That's how he starts out.
A guy with a stutter, and youknow, that's why he gives him a
shot.
I like how they gave that inthe behind the scenes oh, they
gave it in the behind the scenesLike a penguin has a disability
, so therefore he sees.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So the stutter.
He thought it was a disability.
I thought it was a little bitof a stretch.
It is, but it still works.
It still works it still works.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Because he does his first crime cut himself to cope
with, uh, with the crime he justdid, you know, and obviously he
can't leave because pingingwill gut him.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You know, I'm pushing it, you know that'd be an
interesting like end game,because right now he's even
squimmish about like cutting thehead of a cadaver yeah, but I
think just as is like anultimate serial killer.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah you know what, though, the way he broke it down
makes it a serial killer type.
You know why Do you go from thefront.
But then I thought what happenswhen I hit the the trach, the
trach.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And then I thought going from the back but then I
thought spine, picture the spine, you know bone.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
And that's just hard.
And I was like, oh, fuckingchill, that's enough.
And I'm like, but he was socasual about it though, the kid
wasn't freaked out, he was just,I didn't know which way to do
it.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It wasn't that he couldn't do it, I just got
confused.
Well I mean, but he's like, butthen I started thinking like he
sees it in his head.
Yeah, so in that aspect you cansee how he could get.
He could go dark.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes, yes like you see , the birth of a serial killer,
you know, because he, you know,with penguin, and that's what I
think, because penguin kills yousaw it at the beginning, like
at the end of gangsters is whatthey call.
They're all serial killers.
All, all gangsters are serialkillers because they just, you
know, you, we all get offended,bro, we always somebody makes
fun of our argument, we're gonnakill a man because they, we're
gonna probably cry and walk away, just kill him.
(20:58):
Yeah, but that, but penguin isa killer, killer, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
No, 100%.
I think it's so gangster man.
I think it's cool as shit.
Which?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I think is like so whenever him and Vic go to that
house, I was thinking that theywill play the name of Cobblepot,
because in that scene wherehe's being told what to do, yeah
, he's a small character but,like I mentioned references, a
reference I'm bringing up andI'm pushing it here is
Goodfellas.
For example, Ray Liotta'scharacter and Robert De Niro's
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character, although they'reassociated with the mob, they
weren't Italian.
Ray Liotta's character was likehalf Jewish, half Italian and
De Niro's character was halfIrish, half Italian, but they
were what they were calledassociates, right?
So my theory is that Cobblepotlike grew up just like Ray
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Liotta, Robert De Niro'scharacter, in an Italian
mob-like neighborhood, but hewas never one of them.
He was always an associatebecause he's probably English.
I think they will play thecharacter Kabupat, because it's
not really like.
I'm just theorizing with thestructure.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I can see that in the background because obviously he
was exposed to this Calabresecharacter his childhood and you
can see in the teaser that we'reprobably going to get a
flashback episode.
I'll be interested to see himin the flashback episode
no-transcript have a real uhkabo pot's backstory there's the
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comics where, like it was, yeahbut I mean live action killed
his brothers.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Oh interesting okay spoilers.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I didn't know he's an .
You know that's what Batmangoes after, is that?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So we'll have to see if the TV series goes a
different way.
Yeah, but I'm excited to seethe first live action take
Because like you said, theyalready mixed things up.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's already got a Sopranos touch.
So, I'm curious how it's goingto go going forward.
It'll be going forward.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, seen when they're going up to the house,
uh, to the falcone house, andthey kind of show big is amazed
at how yeah, they live.
That's an interesting team inthe show that they're setting up
.
Uh, because it's an interestingpart of gotham city how the one
percent of gotham city isalways like a way so much richer
than you know the you know italso helped.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It helped set up the slums in gotham.
For me, you know, like becausegotham's always been like all
right, this is the bad side,this is the the rich side, but
we never really got the chanceto see, like how it got to be
like that yeah now, the flood isnow instilled.
Hey, I saw that your buildingthat you lived in is gone oh
yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
He's like neighborhood uh, which is uh.
I mean it gets referenced inthe batman right.
Well, yeah, he says like thatwas one of the hardest hit ones
and it's one of the poorestneighborhoods yeah, he's like so
that shit's gone.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
So I'm like, oh, so now they've already established
this is a place.
Now crime runs rampant.
There's a gap inside the powersystem.
Drugs are on short supplyeverybody, you know I'm like oh
shit this is gotham dog, yeahnow it makes sense for batman to
come out.
You know like now he's kickingass on a deadly basis versus him
, waiting for a big bad to comeout.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, absolutely I wonder, I mean, if batman's
gonna show up the way they'resetting up the series.
I could see like him notshowing up at all and I'll be
okay with it.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah if we just hit a reference of bruce wayne, I'd
be happy like, if like he wrapsit up like on the last episode
or something like he wraps it,like I can see him wrapping up
like the third season, wherelike couple pockets too big shit
happens.
And then like he beats hisenemies, and after he beats his
enemy he thinks he won andsuddenly like the windows
shatter right, like fucking sixfoot five bum, bum, bum, bum bum
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, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum,bum, bum, bum, bum, bum bum.
You know yeah absolutely theApollo's dry as fuck.
It breaks his foot.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I know Health insurance breaks his foot.
Now talk.
Oh, they show his foot.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
That shit was fucked up.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Well, you know, I thought that was cool that he
gave him the penguin walk, hegave him the waddle.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
The waddle Because the fucked up foot and I was
like damn dog.
It makes it grounds it inreality so much.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
So you know what I loved about his acting was so
peak, bro.
This isn't.
This isn't uh like uh forscorsese.
This isn't fucking robert deniro.
This isn't the next italian mommovie, bro, this is for dc.
This is for batman dog.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
This was great I think, like anybody, I think
anybody could watch it too.
Like you don't have to be acomic book fan to like see this
show and guess what, and guesswhat you didn't have.
You don't have to be a comicbook fan to like see this show.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And guess what?
It's a gangster show on its own.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And guess what?
You don't have to watch 20movies to then watch this.
You got one movie in this.
Yeah and guess what I think.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Possibly you could jump into it without watching
the Batman.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
You could Possibly.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Because it gives you no backstory.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
But you know what, though, I'll say with this first
episode, it gives damn nearanything Marvel's put out in the
past Besides Loki.
It gives damn near anythingelse a run for its money.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah.
Tv show-wise 100% I think DC TVshows have always been peak.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I just love the groundiness of it, bro, how it's
like this is just a regulareveryday guy, starting from the
bottom, working on his way up,and you're like, oh, by the way,
he's a Batman villain.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
What, oh shit.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
The guy that becomes like the hint.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, because there's no hint to Batman, it's all him
.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
At the end, we know how it ends it's either him or
Skull.
What's his name?
Skullface, not Skullface.
Blackskull.
Yeah, him, blacksk got them,like the city divided between
them, to point blank period.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
okay yeah, so, yeah, so it'd be cool to get a
reference to black skull bigmobsters I can see them becoming
like season two villain orsomething like that, absolutely
like long-term game 100 humangregor.
I want to see like how manymore references they're going to
be to like batman universe, tothe comics, because obviously,
uh, the batman movie kind ofgrounded very much in reality
like the riddler was nothinglike his comic revers version.
(26:38):
Yeah man?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
yeah, killer.
And then you have a terror,serial terror, yes the cat woman
, I mean an actual cat burglar,a legit cat burglar.
She was a legit cat burglar,she'd be fucking too.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And she throws it back a bit so how many of the
characters it sounds like whenthey beat it up how many of the
characters sounds like.
That's how it goes bro, he'sgotta hit it in slow motion too,
he has to bro anyway, bro, whatwere?
(27:12):
We saying oh how many, how manymore characters might be like
set up in this show,specifically because Sofia does
get her.
There's a scene where you findout a little bit more about her
background.
She's like what did they usedto call me?
They tell you the Hangman thatwas her character name in the
comic book run because she wasalso in a serial killer in the
(27:33):
comic book run.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That was her name, the Hangman.
That comes from the comic books.
Obviously she's not a comicbook character, which is very
much grounded in reality, butshe does have her comic book
name.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I think that's cool, but I also think it's going to
be dope that we're going to gether backstory of how she got
caught.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh yeah, we're going to see her in prison, like
somehow.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Cabal Paz, we're going to get Arkham dog, arkham
Asylum, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
There's a little bit.
It's like I'm not mad at whatyou did to me, or something.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
yeah, it's like do you regret what you did to me?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
He's like nah Nah.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I will never regret what you do to me.
You know what I like.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I never forget.
You know what I like.
All right, the Asylum lookssimilar to what Joker's does
Like.
Okay, from a totally differentreference, but the Joker.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I hope we do not get a Joker at all.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
No, no, no, no, I hope we don't.
It was in the Batman.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
I know, but I hope we don't get him at all.
I hope he's just teasedthroughout the movie?
Oh yeah, Because Batman has somany more rogue villains yes,
the Gallery of Rogues.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Did you the little bit of news about the Batman
that came out?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
No, the second movie Wintertime when they're thinking
, mr Freeze.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, oh is it.
I didn't know.
I didn't hear about that.
I knew the wintertime.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Cold death to Mr Wayne Batman.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
The rumors are that it's going to be in wintertime
and maybe Mr Freeze will bethere, that'd action.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
He can still do it bro.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Oh, you're right, yeah, I understand why?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Why wouldn't it be recasted at all?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Let me ask you a better question who would be a
better Blade?
Wesley Snipes?
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
You don't recast the ghost.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Bro, come on, bro you don't recast the ghost.
His shit was great.
You know he's a better actornow than what he was.
Everybody chill, Cool down.
You know what It'd be cool tosee?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
him get another attempt at it as Old man Freeze.
Remember when he did that hewas like cool as hell.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Chill.
Batman Forever is such a trip.
No, Batman and Robin Batman andRobin.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
My favorite scene is when he's wearing his coat and
he's telling all his minions tosing the Christmas song.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
They're all freezing their ass off.
I sick of this shit.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I'm fucked up.
Tim Burton, batman Universe Wassuch a trip.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, shit was funny.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Back to the penguin.
Who's gonna be?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
The next Frieza.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Remember when he fell and he had wings and shit and
he just like what.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I forgot about that part I guess you gotta rewatch
the 90s movies, bro?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Is it the one where, like the car, goes up in the
roof?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yes, I think that's the one where it goes straight
up.
No, that's Batman Foreverversus Two-Face.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It's Jason Two-Face.
Val Kilmer was a cool Batman.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
He wasn't terrible, it was just Jim, bro.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Jim wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
George Clooney was the worst.
I think it was the Sid.
What screwed Val Kilmer overwas the nips in the suit.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I mean the nips always screw everybody over, bro
.
Nips have never been good inthe suit, the gadgets were cool.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Nips have never been cool in suits.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
bro, you can't give me a cool superhero with nipples
that you can see in their suit.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
None.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Zero.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, why worry?
I think they just like fuck it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, fuck it.
His suit is so tight, you cansee his nipples, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Who was the guy that got by in costume design?
Nipples Trust bro.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Trust.
If you can see his abs, you cansee his nips.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Why wouldn't you be able to see?
Come on bro.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You see his V-cup, but you don't see his nipples?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Where's the aesthetics?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
He can open it up to get some fresh air.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Literally he said dynamite areolas.
Literally said dynamite areolas, dynamite areolas bottom nips
look he takes a look.
They got the bad nipples likepiercings on the nipples.
Nice bang, oh wow.
So anyway, bob, bob, bob Bob.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Bob Bob.
Oh man, I do want to see moreof Robert Pattinson's Batman.
I do.
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I miss a Ben Affleck Batman bro.
I miss a Ben Affleck Batman bro.
I miss that coming in.
I miss coming in.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
After re-watching the Batman, Robert Pattinson is
actually a go-to.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
He's great, but I would have liked to see some
more Batman killing.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Batman coming in bro.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
The only time we get it.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Snyder's the only guy who's?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
like Batman, kills, breaking necks and shit.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
A 9mm point blank.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Just one shot him with a 9mm point blank.
Just one time, bro.
That's all I needed.
You know, he didn't double tap,he actually got stabbed.
He was like fuck, I got stabbed.
He shot his ass or broke hisarm.
I forgot what it was.
That was so badass when he tookthat crate and he fucking
crushed it over his head.
Not talk, batman, he's deadwild.
No, he's not, he's pretendinghe's bleeding from his ears.
Oh man, bob, he's dead Wild.
(31:58):
No, he's not, he's pretendinghe's bleeding from his ears.
Oh man, bob.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Bob, bob, back to the Penguin.
We go Back to the matter ofhand.
Back to the matter of hand, whowill be the one to?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
take over Gotham.
Who's going to run the?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
family.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Who's going to run the city?
He doesn't ruin it with anylike goofy laugh or anything
cheesy.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
There's a lot more humor in just one hour of the
penguin than there was in theBatman.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Gotta work in that.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Not too far I was impressed how many moments I
actually laughed.
It wasn't even like funny,funny.
I don't think it was even meantto be funny.
It was just to show you howcringe Penguin is.
There was one moment I wantedto bring up.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
There was one moment where I fucking laughed out loud
Because of how funny thatfucking was and I wanted to
bring it up.
I can't remember what it was,but the fact that he had not
that it was just the radio, hehad the CD dog.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
He had the CD.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
He was just jamming that.
That shit was turned all theway up.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
dog, like that's my shit All the way to be a drug
dealer Working that 9 to 5.
They're moving kilos.
No, I'm a pot.
You know why?
No, it makes sense, Bro.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
there was layers to that song because he's just like
the brown man At the very end.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
At the very end, they play this song.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
And the way the song starts is like I wake up, I
drink a cup of ambition, yeah,and I gotta get my day started
and say let's go, you know let'sgo get this money, kind of
thing, and it's the same thingand I'm like that's the way he
feels nine to five involves gunsand drugs.
Yeah, but he's like he's likeI'm working for the man and
doing this and doing that.
I was like the man is thefamily.
I just thought it was so funny.
Layers and specifically aboutthe Layers.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Specifically about the ambition and the working to
like move your way up.
I do like this idea that youknow Gotham City has always been
this depressing place where,like, nobody makes a name.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
But if you think about it, gotham City is also.
There's also opportunity tomake a name for yourself.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You like it, so they just set that up Like okay maybe
there is hope in Gotham.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
City, not the best kind of criminal well yeah, he's
like, he's like.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
You can keep making it selling rims, trying to
barely get by, or yeah, or youcan finally make some money yeah
, what do you?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
want to do I was like bro, fuck these rims, you know
and it was a kid from like the,you know a poor neighborhood
that just got destroyed.
I was like I'll take this.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I mean yeah, I mean, what are you gonna do shit, I'm
working for him, bro, workingthat 9 to 5.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You see what he does, bro.
He took him to the storagewhere he's pushing that stuff
which I think that toxin isgoing to be that scarecrow toxin
, that drugs coming in thespecial drug.
That's my theory.
It's going to be a fear thingfrom the scarecrow.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
If that replaced drops, yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Because I do like the way they're setting up these
new drugs that's coming in.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I do.
I wonder if he's going to fuckit up, because I'm curious.
He's just like whoever runs thedrops runs the streets.
We know this and I'm like, ohso they're already talking like
this is just street level shit,heroes for Hire kind of shit,
and I do like that when they goto a plant where they're like
everybody respects him there.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
He does get respect, and by his people yeah, he might
not be a high level in theFalcone family.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
But he ain't no scrub .
He was just a helper, yeah, butyeah, he ain't no fucking scrub
.
Yeah, he's not low level yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
He had his own club.
They have to drive him in.
Like hey, we're going to tellyou in person that we're going
to shut down the operation.
We're like a gangster.
It's not like that's like HRkind of shit.
Like hey.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah.
Come in for a sit down, he eventells him he's like, I'm giving
you a courtesy I don't have togive you this shit?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Oh yeah, and that's why he's trying to leave town.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Okay, trying to leave town, right yeah, so that's a
good segue Getting back.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, oh no, before at the warehouse.
I do like the littleconversations that he has.
He makes like quick decisions.
He's like, oh, this guy justcame, all right, let's see if we
can take him out.
And he just said some shitright off, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, I did.
I like that.
He was like all right, takethis motherfucker to the back,
we don't want to get no bloodanywhere.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Oh, he grabs the shit that he got from the safe.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Hey, I need you to run over this to the DA let's be
pals.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Let's be pals.
I need you to go over and makesure that it comes from me,
gotcha penguin.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
He turns around, he gives him his back as a table
bro.
He's like calling out orders,yeah, or look, the doc is like
man, we saved about 30 of theproduct, mind you, we got it
from sewage waste.
Well, fuck it.
The people don't know won'thurt him, ain't that right?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
yes, sir he's still gonna drop him that scientist
might be somebody also.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I hope Since you mentioned Scarecrow.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
He can maybe fuck with the formula or whatever.
He's a doc yeah.
But I don't know if Scarecrow,but I just thought he was going
to be.
I thought he might be somecharacter in general, like
that's what I was looking for.
It's like what character mightbecome something.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, that would be interesting.
That would be really cool, man,because I do like the idea that
I mean in the movie the Batman.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
It was set up that he was only two years into being
the Batman.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
So this is Batman year one.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, as far as we know, yeah, like there's up and
coming, like these are originstories for all of their roguery
.
Yeah, the whole entire universewhich I loved.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It's so original, man , yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It's so original, take man or wobble.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, it's a fresh take.
You know, this is like again,like the Last of Us.
The Last of Us was a reallygood game.
The story was amazing period.
But that's why you're like it'sa good, because it was set up
to be good.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
This was just hey, bro, we've had in a long time If
you were to tell me it's a oneepisode special and that's all
we're getting.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I would have been like I'm ready for the movie.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I'm ready for the movie.
Yeah, it was an hour and a halfright and that was an hour and
ten minutes Bro it felt like howmany episodes were you in?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like five or something Eight.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Eight, yeah, eight episodes were on.
Thank you, suki for all thefacts.
Anyway, no, you said it rightBefore he runs off, though, at
the sit-down a really good scenetoo he's being told by HR hey,
we're going to shut down yourbranch.
(38:14):
That was good.
I like that.
I didn't even notice it.
I thought I was going to get abetter reaction.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
It was so smooth.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I thought I was going to get a better reaction.
I thought I was going to get abetter reaction.
I was like, yeah, so HRC cantalk to him.
They're going to shut down yourbranch.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Anyways, while they're talking to him, I'm
shutting down the plant, Noteven in focus.
You see this figure coming in.
And we know it's Sofia, butthis is her introduction, so we
don't know who she is.
But it's not in focus and shejust comes up and it kind of
changes the mood in the room.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Because the other two guys know that she's walking up
, so they feel it and they kindof change the way they're
talking.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
They'd be quiet and also, yeah, the music isn't
tough anymore.
Also, the music changes likethe tension rises and you're
like who is this menacing?
Like she's already a menace andshe's not even in focus yeah, I
like that.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
It was that sense of power.
You're right, like that's thepower, like standing over his
shoulder yeah, she's over's,over her, over his shoulder.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
So you know, metaphorically, figuratively,
she's also, she's already umover him, over him, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Right, I don't, I don't mean to skip around, but I
think it's important to you toshow you like the level of power
.
I want to add onto it Cause andthen we're going to bring about
right.
But I want to bring about likethe level where she's like let's
go have lunch.
And Penguin didn't say likeokay.
Later he was like oh, you'retalking about now, aren't you?
Like that's how powerful she is.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Like you can't tell her no, You're going to say no
to this.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, we should totally do lunch.
No, I meant now, oh yeah, ofcourse.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, I got shit to do Right off.
She starts asking questionsImmediately.
My brother was supposed to.
You're bringing up this planabout a drug deal.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
My brother was supposed to go to your club.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
What are you doing?
You're saying this drug deal,you're doing it as your own name
.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
He's missing and all of a sudden, you're either
really stupid or reallyconfident that he's not coming
back.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Right, Okay, well let's go back and redress it.
So he's getting pushed out.
He does a Hail Mary and hepitches the brother's idea,
which is already dead Right, thesister hears it oh how you know
about my brother's plan.
And then she asks him.
He don't answer immediately.
And then she asks his ass tolunch.
It's at lunch that she thencalls his ass out and was like
hey so my brother and I wereworking on this plan.
(40:24):
How the fuck do you know aboutit and why would you pass it off
on your own?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Oh shit, and I love the way that he thinks Quink is
like we're both in the dark.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, I can't believe he lied to me, bro, and that's
the thing about Oski.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Oski, oski, oski.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm not from the show , I'm not from the show.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I'm not Oz Ozki in the mix, like she said.
The tension again is displayedagain, because I was kind of at
the edge of my seat Me too.
What are you going?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
to say what are you going to say, bro?
I don't know, bro, I was likeyou got me, bro, I'm cut.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh, he's shy about it .
Speaker 3 (41:05):
He made me want to do it just because I, like this,
can't pull that dress, but hekind of he didn't hold it at the
end.
At the end of it I was likedamn, did he really just in the?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
beginning you know it's bullshit.
When he starts it is terrible.
It goes to show me charactersabout.
He's like quick on his feet,like yeah, he's still a smart
character.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
He's very witty, yes, very witty, absolutely evil
genius right it's like a kingpinyeah, yeah, that level
intellect shit.
Yes, yeah, that's how.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I think that's why he's standing up to be the king
thing.
I've got them yeah at thispoint, and uh, after the lunch,
though, they're walking away andthey're like saying their
goodbyes and she's like umeverybody everybody doubted you
doubted you.
It's like I know you're morethan I knew you were great.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I knew you were destined for.
I knew you were capable of more.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I know you were capable of more yeah and in that
moment you can see.
See that, okay, first of allshe's kind of crazy, kind of hot
.
Yes, very Both.
The craziness makes her hotter.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
The way she looked at it, the way she was dressed all
black when he was gettingtortured.
She was fine.
I thought it was kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Bro, absolutely that's jumping.
But yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
I mean and the fact that she wields his power.
I mean and the fact that shewields his power.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I mean it's, I mean it's cool, I mean I get it.
I get it.
I see the appeal.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Don't want to get too much into it.
But you can see in that momentthat she still like bouts him
and she's still even playingwith him, oh yeah yeah, she's
hyping him up absolutely, youknow she's fucking with him and
that's what he knows.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
That's why immediately he goes home.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
He's like I'm out of here I'm out.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
He's like mom, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I fucked up.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
If she don't know, I'm already caught.
It's a wrap, and that's it.
But his mom's sick, though wedon't know what she's sick of.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
The tub is full of pills.
What the fuck are you talkingabout?
Speaker 3 (42:41):
She's talking about the other kids, which would be
his brothers, but they're deadat this point for some rhyme or
reason, because he's alreadysaid that.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Or they might be.
Well, I'm assuming, we'reassuming, I'm assuming, yeah,
we're assuming, but yeah, thatwould make sense.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
But that would make sense.
If the kids are dead, they'vebeen dead for a long time and
she's talking about them.
She's talking about the.
He doesn't correct her, he'slike alright, well, let's make
sure you switch your meds.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I mean going back To what we said In the beginning.
I mean she tells him it's likemy man raised no bitch.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, you sound like A fucking pussy boy.
You sound like A fucking pussyboy.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Dude Fuck Tim O yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
It's like you didn't.
What did she say?
You didn't react Like you.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Oh yeah, you knew what you were doing.
You knew what you were doing,it wasn't fear.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
It was instinctual.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Damn bro.
Somebody was fucking with youand you didn't like it, so you
took care of it.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I was like the way she hyped it.
Bro, what are you going to doabout the city?
Speaker 3 (43:40):
This is your moment.
You seize this power, you takethis and you make this something
for yourself.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I was listening like, okay, yeah, the fucking podcast
is going to take over.
This is your moment.
You seize this power, you takethis and you make this something
for yourself.
You know I was listening like,okay, yeah, the fucking podcast
is gonna take over, let's go.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah, bro, why are you?
Doing the key monitor facts,bro the mom bro, the power of
the mother.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
The power of the mother.
You can see that he says it.
Uh, it was a shift, whateverthat darkness is, because I mean
, if he's a light character or agood character, then he would,
you know, try to run away.
But then that darkness Takesover in him and he's like, yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Parental support is a motherfucker, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Dude, dude, dude, bro .
Like you hear that, bro, you'reone of the bounces, bro From
your own parents.
Facts, bro.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
You're not just going to run the block, you're going
to run the town.
You know what I'm saying?
You ready, make moves.
I'm waiting.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Shit.
All right, mom.
Interesting that he does set upa whole plan he does After that
, after that, a whole everythingwe talk about that.
Meet with Mar.
He was Salvatore.
Yeah, I'm here to offer myservices to you.
Yeah, I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
They brought him out because I thought he was dead.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, I thought he was dead.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I thought the whole point of the Batman was like you
know, you got rid of him, wegot rid of him.
I didn't realize like we getrid of him.
He's in jail.
Yeah, he's in jail.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
They busted his drug operation, yeah, to offer me
services.
But I don't think that's why hewas, because we find out
towards the end.
That whole meeting was a play.
That whole meeting was a playhe doesn't even really want to
offer him or work with him atall.
What that whole meeting wasabout was about giving him the
ring.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
That's all it was, everything was about that I
didn't realize it.
I was like, oh, and I thoughtthat was his Hail Mary.
Then my last ditch ever for youto trust me, and it was.
I mean, as far as the audienceknew we were aware of, that's
what it was.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
And then obviously the big reveal is fuck you in
that ring yes which, uh, I meanthat was the big thing at the
end and that was his whole play.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
He was gonna he got a war he got big to uh drive that
car into the house that shecame in clutch with that, with
the body but I like how he triedto talk shit, so remember he's
he was like bro, we had a plan,what happened.
We had a plan, what happened.
And that's when he talks aboutthe whole next one.
But real quick, the torture.
That shit was wild.
The fucking fish, the metalfish wire whatever the fuck it
was.
(45:54):
It looked painful, it was metalor something, dog, it was
cutting into his ass, or it wasfishing wire.
I couldn't tell you.
You know, probably fishing wire, yeah, yeah yeah Like, oh that
shit, there's nothing you can do.
It was all the way to the bone.
Yeah, and it's all meat.
Bro, there's nothing here.
It's not until you get to thebone on the shoulder you stop it
with that bitch.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Oh, except for Gracie , then.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
They put him in a whole bodysuit.
It's still him.
Oh shit, he acted that good.
That motherfucker was gettingcut up.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I keep thinking it's somebody else.
I keep forgetting it's ColinFarrell, bro.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
There was only one moment where I was like, oh, it
looks like Colin Farrell, onemoment out of the entire hour
and 10 minutes there was onemoment where you could see it,
and especially because I thinkhe's Scottish, yeah.
English, irish, irish but forlike one line, his real Scottish
accent came out.
Yeah, he did.
The Hulk is Mayweather.
Yeah, that came out.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
And I was like ooh.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
You can see his character.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
But other than that he's like you forget that he's
in there Phen in there,phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
I mean all the tony bro, give him the big gal bro
oscar tony, whatever they gavefor the tv level max award.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
I saw I saw an interview that uh, being in that
suit, he's just constantlysweating.
So they, they made the the setslike super cold, but everybody
was so cold that they couldn'tact, you know.
So then they set up a coolingtent just for him him, just for
him, so he like acts for twominutes.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
And then goes.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yeah, he gets so hot that in between takes he has to
go in the cooling tent becauseof how hot that shit is, Damn
and how cold that shit is.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
You gotta be quick on those acting.
Yeah, yeah, you can't get thiswrong.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
He's gotta give the take they cut.
He goes in the other tent.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
That's the thing, bro .
Speaker 3 (47:42):
That's commitment to the character.
That is commitment to thecharacter, 100%.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
You got to sit down for hours for that makeup, you
know, for that mask to come in.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
It's so random.
Let me be committed to playingthe penguin Of all characters.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
That's what I'm saying.
Like if this is what DCproduces as the future of their
superhero movies, bro, I'm allfor it.
Like if at that point now westart talking about movies or or
superhero movies being oscarsare nominated, you know, I'm
saying ryan reynolds and, uh,deadpool, I mean, I don't think
that.
No, no, no, they're not gonnaget it.
But the fact that they're evengood, but the performances went
(48:15):
oscar worthy hugh jackman wasgood but anyway, I guess it was
good he was good.
I'm not.
I mean tell you what, let mesee the competition and then
I'll, then I'll, I'll knock himout, and then there'll be a guy.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Cries about his shoe in the journal in the middle of
nowhere.
Yeah, I don't see if that shityeah.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Anyway, I digress.
Going back to like again.
This could be like Some seriousagain.
Emmys bro, Right here in mymind.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
With this.
I kind of want James Gunn's NewDC Universe, Like I want the
Batman To be included in it backto back, to back to back with
this I kind of want james gunn'snew um dc universe, like I want
the batman to be included inthe main dc universe, like the
new superman movie, the newjames gunn superman movie.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
I would like it to somehow be connected to I think
it's gonna be his own thing,though, right like the batman's
universe, snyder verse is gonnabe or not snyder also the joker
what's his face?
James gunn?
No, no, the guy.
The guy who's actually mattreeves.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
It's like the matt reeves, uh batman universe right
he's got his own separate thingyeah, but I mean it'll be cool
if they somehow connect oh yeah,absolutely your universe.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, bro, there's mother boxes.
I mean, there's something withthe penguin.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
It's like well, if they could do a whole side story
in the penguin, and you knowwhy it's not connected to the
bigger universe?
Speaker 3 (49:20):
yeah, and there's still so many more characters.
Again, his rogue gallery isstill so vast, yeah, so vast.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, guys, all right , thank you for coming to this
meeting, any predictions beforewe end.
Yeah, Victor Saaz is him.
It's him, Victor Saaz.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Okay, so the kid is going to become a super guest.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, and I'm hoping that there's like three seasons,
you know, after every otherBatman movie, and it concludes
with Batman picking up thecasino.
He becomes Cobblepot, thenumber one gangster in all of
Gotham, and then suddenly Batmancomes in and just cleans him up
.
You know, he was just waitingfor him to become like
consolidate the power.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
I like it, you know it'd be cool if he broke him all
the way down or threw him backin jail and then he has to get
out and start back again, butthis time he already has the
grounding.
So now he quickly rebuilds hisempire and gets better.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Season 4, you know, I think we might get a Batman
cameo this first season.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
But I mean, that would be fucking badass.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
You know what we're going to get?
Some cool people, I think.
Introduce their cameo in ArkhamAsylum.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I'll say that that was going to be my take.
I think whenever we getSophia's backstory in Arkham, we
we're probably going to meetsome of the female and we get a
clay face.
That'd be crazy.
Or, I don't know, maybe a bigname, maybe we meet Dr Harling
Quinsell.
That'd be cool.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
Before the shit goes south.
That'd be dope.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Because the Joker did get the easter egg and the
Batman.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
I mean or Dr Ugo.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Dr Ugo, it's a guy, or Dr Ugo, dr Ugo?
Yeah, it's a guy named Dr Ugoyeah.
He played a big part in thevideo game.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, oh okay, okay, okay, Like a psychologist bad
guy.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
That would be interesting to introduce again
the Arkham aspect of it thegames.
We're going to get the Arkham.
I played 1 and 2.
The third one.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
I never played it, but 1 and 2 were awesome.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
No, I mean, I think that's what they're talking
about in the next Batman, inaddition to also doing the
Wintertime.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Oh no, year 1 was also to play that one, so that
was also close, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I just heard about that.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
And then Depression, and Moronison is Blackgate,
blackgate Pen.
So again, just more big names.
I mean, the names are there.
Yeah, there's so manyopportunities, so I think we're
definitely.
But then again, I mean, theBatman wasn't a movie, that was
like Easter egg happy, that'strue.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yes, if you guys got a chance to.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
So I think, the penguin.
There might also be a thingwhere the penguin is just going
to stick to the plot.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
Drop it in the comments.
I want to know if it was.
Was it a link like RatalataRight, I forgot about the
Ratalata bro, ratalatacom.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
I fucking forgot about that shit.
No, guns.
Man, that's your rule.
Alright, guys, I think this isa good episode.
Yeah, we're wrapping it up.
I think we're done with thismeeting.
Thank you for joining thefamily.
(52:02):
You're dismissed, suki.
Where's my music?
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This is one of your hosts.
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