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September 5, 2025 34 mins

xFer shares his journey of winning a soccer championship after six years of dedication and harkwork. He talks about battling "Lady Doubt" during the final moments of the game and what it takes to build a team. The boys also discusses the anime Dandadan, they talk about its unique romance elements and creative fight scenes, before diving into Detroit: Become Human, a video game that explores the idea of AI consciousness and what it means to "be alive."
 
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you so much for tuninginto the wbm podcast.
This is one of your hosts.
It's your boy, mark hey, it'syour boy x fair welcome back
everybody and there's your boyoski in the mix, guys, do we
have one hell of a show for youthis week sir, we're talking a
little bit about the premierleague a little bit of football

(00:25):
we're, yeah, man we're alsogoing to talk a little bit of
that.
Anime's been good so far thisyear, so we're going to talk
about that, how it feeds them.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Actually he's the only one I've watched so far.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh yeah, oh, I can talk about my trip there you go,
there you go.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I can talk about and all the Pokemon out there.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
All right, ladies and gentlemen are you guys ready
for this one?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, ladies and gents, we're back in the studio,
we're back in the lab and, asyou can tell, it's been so long
that we forgot how things workin the lab.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Absolutely.
What are switches?
You know what I'm saying.
What does butts in here?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's just been that long.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
And it's been a while .
It was a good summer, because Iknow you missed us.
We were pretty much like in agood little summer break.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
you know doing, you know you know what I'm gonna be
honest Life is good Life is good.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I'm saying Like when you're living life.
Unfortunately, you don't havetime To always talk about it,
that's true man, life is rough.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
And that's what the podcast is about.
You know To talk aboutexperiences and moments you've
had.
One of them Is a big momentI've had.
It's I won a A soccer seasonY'all.
I know what it felt like to win.
I know what it felt like to beon that english shit, and for
that, for a second, I knew whatit felt like to be messy.
Or like, for a second, you know, to to win a trophy.

(01:53):
Like because, like, I've neverbeen involved in a single sport,
because, like, growing up, myparents couldn't afford like,
signing you up to a team yeah,and that included, like football
teams, like, not once even.
Actually, in the only fondmemory I have was a good friend
of mine.
He will hopefully make apodcast.
His mom paid for one season forme to play soccer.
I was like a little kid, youknow, because my parents

(02:14):
couldn't afford it, right.
So over the years, man, youknow, you have some friends.
Slowly but surely Tico was apart of that I started to get
together like, hey, let's join,let's join the soccer league,
you know.
And over time, this is likefive, six years man of constant
grind.
I'm not gonna lie.
This is why it felt so goodthis victory, because, like,
when you play a soccer game, youknow all things equal, like

(02:36):
it's so competitive that it isbeyond that.
People who are bigger than you,taller than you, more gifted
than you, can play well, andit's fascinating seeing that
they take it seriously, likethey show up late at night.
They got kids, they got thingsto do.
You know, hey, I can't play, sopart of the like in the last
five to six years of the processis getting that, even

(02:57):
assembling the team, because youknow, I got kids, I got to go
to work, I got to drive this outof town.
So to find people that arecommitted for a series of 12
weeks to play goalieconsistently, to play defense
and come up but yeah, hey, thegame's at 1045.
Can you make it?
Most people are like no, I gotto go to work tomorrow.
So you add that plus thephysicality of what is the

(03:23):
season Because you play multiplegames, it feels just like the
Premier League, right.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
And they still got to have that ego, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
To play it, man To score.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
But to do it and like I look back to it because, like
the victory is like, I see,like it's what every sports
documentary talks about, it'slike to really experience it.
It's something like I urgeeverybody that has like a goal,
whatever it may be like, reallystick to it, because it's true,
because the goal impliedeverything, including my diet.
Like I became my guy that atesardines.
I never fucking ate sardines,and now I'm here eating sardines
.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
That's what I'm saying, like I something that I
wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I wouldn't touch to eat, but like my diet changed.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
You know my like I.
I'm saying like I something Iwouldn't.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I wouldn't touch this to eat, but like my diet
changed you know my like I I'm agoofy guy to buy like wheat,
fucking rice, you know, combineit, eat like proper soccer meals
, go for runs, hit the gym andlike for a goal in mind, because
I wanted to know what whatvictory felt like, you know, and
and looking back at holding thetrophy is like I see it,
because it's something that Inever thought I would experience

(04:26):
in a lifetime, because it'sreally like award-winning it.
When I won it, it felt like whenI got my college degree, like
it was up there yes, it was upthere, like of emotional level,
but like all, like everything,like looking back, like going to
the gym getting injured, like Iremember getting injured going
to the er, like it was, itwasn't even worth it like I'm
losing money in this, but like,and then like come, you qualify

(04:48):
for the semifinals and then thisis someone that I want to talk
about, because this is like thebiggest part, because there's
what I like to call lady doubt,like suddenly she just shows up
in, like in the back of your ear, start like whispering that
seems real, yeah, you knowyou're you, I made it to the
semifinals but like, for somereason, like an echo chamber of
saying like I'm calm, I amconfident, really made me, you

(05:09):
know, not only be part of theteam but be part of a heroic
part of the team, likecontributing to the team and
like I'm not the biggest guy,the strongest guy, but like I
know that I put in practice,Like I will go and practice
against the wall, practicedribbling, practice, the touch,
like really, like dedicated tomyself.
I was like no, I really want toknow what that victory felt like

(05:31):
, cause it's not, you can't notbuy it, you know you, you have
to really physically earn it.
Like to it's something that's meand I know it's minimal, but
it's like it's experience to toreally feel that, that, that
ecstasy, that of winning, that,that grind he said it in the
anime man to win you gottachange yourself you gotta be
able to adapt and change yourego you, you like all that stuff

(05:55):
is 100% like, 100% true, in themoment, like I played the
semi-finals, it's part of likecontributing to the point where,
like I am, they seen that I'mbold, taking chances, and thus
the team is confident and say,hey, if fernando's doing this,
then I can do it too.
So the whole team is lifted.
And just a quick anecdote inthe finals, no, I wasn't the mvp

(06:17):
.
In fact, the imagine this rightis the final game.
Like you, you step in bro, andthe thing is everybody's faster,
stronger, and this is theunbeaten team.
They've been undefeated theentire season, so nobody's beat
them.
So, like, the pressure is evenhigher.
And here comes a moment wherethey're about to score the goal,
is about to cross that line,but then here comes fernando.

(06:39):
You know like superman, allthese thoughts that pico
literally just said, you know,like as stupid as it is, but I
saved the team from them givingus, us the advantage, and you
being being a heroic moment, andsomething that like was very
important to you, really like itresonates.
It's hard to explain, but youreally have to feel it like

(06:59):
lifting that trophy with theteam, like all the culmination
of like six years consistentlyshowing up, never making it, and
just like, and the biggestbattle during the finale was
when we were up eight, five, sowe're up.
And then again, lady, lady,doubt creeped up at minute three
and she was saying that youknow, you're up three points,

(07:23):
but they can tie, tie, they canscore a goal a minute.
It could happen, you see.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Luck is a big thing in soccer, and suddenly 6-8.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
And I'm like, hey, it's still time.
And then they score against 7-8on mistakes.
It was still a minute and ahalf left and my eyes and this
is the only thing I could thinkabout, bro, because all these
thoughts were coming, like allthis emotional hype Maybe God
brought me here just to humbleme saying, bro, why are you
getting hyped with a dumbamateur game?

(07:54):
Like, put your feet on theground, bro, like this isn't the
World Cup.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
No, but then that blue log flaring goes in your
eye.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's what I think Like the puzzle piece was
starting to fall apart.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
And then he's like no 20 seconds.
I'm not going to let my ego inhere, 15 seconds left.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, keep going, keep going.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm not done yet, bro I'm not done, yet I got a
little bit more.
I got a little bit more 10seconds left.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
God man.
And then seconds left and then,like the moment, like it hit
zero, just seeing everyone andthe pitchers collapsed, even the
losing team me.
I got on my knees and like,thank you, god, you know five,
six years of this, you know.
But like I saw what it feltlike, like I was like, oh,
because all these likeprofessionals talk about it, all

(08:44):
these like that talk about it,all these like that, I grind for
this.
You know I was poor, you know Icame from the backside of the
Philippines, manny Pacquiao, youknow, like I'm just, it's an
extent.
But you're like, ah, what arethey talking about?
But the truth is that you canfeel it like you can experience
something of that magnitude.
It can be something that,whatever may be to me it
happened to be soccer.

(09:04):
But it's like he said you, youhave to change.
Like my diet changed, mymentality changed.
Like I had to think that thatstupid stuff like mike tyson
just say like, close right, getto the pit, the the ring, the
more confident I get, mine wasthe pitch, the closer I got to
the pitch, the market was.
I had to change, like all this,just to like, lift the plastic.
But it wasn't about the trophy,it was pretty much about me,

(09:27):
how I pulled Fernando.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
You never thought about the friends you made along
the way and the bodies Istomped on and the blood that I
made in sweat and tears to getto this place.
Don't forget all the teams thatyou crushed to get there.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
All the egos that you crushed, you broke, bro.
That was seeing third andfourth place play and I'm like
they're playing the third andfourth place where I don't
belong there because I belong inthe finale.
That was fucking with my head,like my ego was like.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Remember when you talked about that your MVP
moment was just stopping a goal.
That happens in that Blue Lockfinal game in the U-20.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, it's like they give it everything just to stop
that goal.
Yeah, bro.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Just stopping that goal keeps the game going.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes, save them.
They're hearing people clappinglike whoa.
You know, even you don'tbelieve that.
Stop that Insane bro Nah man.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
But I want to give shout out to everybody.
Lulav keeps going to the secondhalf.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Shout out to Tino Luis Adrian the union, la Union,
it's been great, wonderful five, six years.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Wasn't that my team, the union La?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Union, yeah, la Union , the union, and many people,
everybody you know, even you,tico, you know like we could
have done it.
I was there a couple years back.
Everyone that participated manlifting that was.
I thought about y'all because Iwas like the journey along the
way, the people that had to falloff because they couldn't make
it life happened.

(10:55):
That's what makes it sodifficult finding team members
all the people that got injured.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
All the people that got injured, damn that's
terrible all the egos he had tocrush.
That's not real.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Overcome, you know, like overcome myself too, you
know, Overcoming doubt,overcoming that these people are
better than me, because seeingtalented people, the guy that
scored the five of the sevengoals that almost tied to us,
still wasn't enough to win, andthat's what, really, what shocks
you like, like I was, like you,I was still more, if that makes

(11:31):
sense, you know but it is you.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
In that final game was there a little shit tuck
into no man.
This is the one.
This is the one where I wentwhen I walked in I prayed.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I prayed to god.
I please make it a fit.
We're gonna make it a fair game.
Nobody's injured.
You know, best man win andthat's what made the victory so
sweet, like it was a momentwhere I contributed, the team
won.
It was a team effort.
It was a close game, cinematicexperience.
I thought we were about to lose.
Lady Doubt showed up out ofnowhere.
I don't even know why sheshowed up, but it happens, like

(12:00):
all these cinematic events, like, just like the games happen,
and it was worth it, bro.
It was worth it to be tired asfuck the next day at work.
But I urge everybody, everybodywants in your life, whatever
goal it may be, yes, keep beingpersistent.
If it doesn't matter, if it'sgoofy to you, to anybody else,
but if it means something to you, I urge you.
You know this is why I'm so.
The podcast has gone for solong.

(12:22):
You know this is a perfectexample.
We're like.
You know, consistency does payoff.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Consistency pay off no, he's not wrong.
Yeah, man, thanks for watchinghbo mac.
Yeah, bro, but we're backsummer break.
Hey, I've been locked in as youguys can tell, I've been locked
in.
Yeah man.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
So that was.
That was my little summer story.
That's awesome.
I just want to give a shout outto the team.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
That's why good stuff are you guys coming back next
season?
Are you guys gonna defend thetitle?
Yeah, we have to.
We have to we got to.
We're running back, runningback.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
You got to give your Eastergeist speech, bro.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I'm going to bring him, I'm going to take him to
victory for a second year.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I will bring the U-20 to Houston.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
There you go.
Well, actually it's the no, no,no, Over 30 years ago 30?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
The World Cup.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Under 40 Cup.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
No, but you guys are playing in the main league.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Right yeah, we got promoted, promoted.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Did you guys get promoted again, you guys?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
prestiged.
Yeah, you get to the next levelup, so we're in the higher
ranking now.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah the higher ranking now.
We're going to bring you anupdate on next season.
Thanks y'all, x't wait.
Dog, yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Thanks y'all, x-men's got a new story going on for
him that's right y'all.
Dandaran, though, was anotherthing that we said we wanted to
hop on next shit.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's why I love it bro it's such a good anime you
know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I just skip I think it works, man, it does.
The publisher of the creatorwas like hey, I need you to read
all these romance, manga,nobles, right, because I want a
shunning with an actual romancethat works and feels real.
So he did, he did the researchand he inserts this romance that
works.
It's done very well Of course,over here we're like grown
adults, so we're thinking aboutyou know you can relate to like

(14:10):
two kids holding hands, but I'msitting there like my boy, okaru
.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
No, he didn't, it's not that much.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I like the ones more where, like, for example,
whenever Okaru was in the warm,like in that warm egg thing like
a protector from the lava, yeah, and she like no, Cardu, I'm
going to save you.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
She thought she lost him, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
It showed like oh, I never had a bitch there to me,
you know.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Love me that much.
That's why I like Momo, becauseMomo will take some first steps
.
She was the one in the car whenthey're holding hands.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, she was like is anything wrong?
He's like no, she's.
When he initiated the littlehand game yeah, absolutely Like
the spinning.
Yeah, that, yeah, that was it.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Because Okada might not be able to take the first
step and I think that's whythat's funny.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I can relate to that, bro, even the fact that he's
like getting in shape for her,like just trying to get better
to end up protecting his friendsyou know, no yeah, they've seen

(15:17):
one.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
You're still missing one ball he's still missing one
ball.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
And again, what is you forget?
One ball is real so uh, anyway,but uh, yeah, no, it's, it's
good, man like it has that whatwas episode 6?
Episode 7 from season 1 wassupposed to be like iconically
sad when you figure out homegirlwith the pink hair oh yeah, the
silky story.
The silky, yeah, the silkystory was crazy but it was cool

(15:41):
though, like even the fact that,like she's kind of taking the
back seat, but they're about togo into another type of fight.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
We're like mid-season so I know we just got through
the whole arc of them facing thewarm and evil eye taking over
Gigi's body.
Yeah, which is really cool, andI think, Gigi's character is
really dope you know, that'sactually cool how about the
scene when they were trying toexercise?
They get the rock band.

(16:17):
I forget what they call it.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Oh, I haven't seen that episode yet.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's the one I'm missing that's the one I'm
saying I gotta wait they get therock band to come in.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
But there's a one by one where, like the sequence
that they do, turning on theknobs and the volume, uh, it's
like one by one with back to thefuture.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh I did.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I saw that side by side, it was a straight homage
to them like there was a scenewhere, like they have, like
they're like that one of ourgenius, we're about to eat the
food.
But the food, the food, is realthere's real images of food.
Yeah, and I love that about it,bro, like I love the randomness
you know why, though it's notrandom.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
So the artist was did the manga so well that they
were like they cannot imitate it, so they had to actually use
real images of food in order toreplicate what he did in the
manga yeah, I didn't even knowthat either.
I was like that's a random plug, but it looks like real food.
From what?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I've read he's like a student of the guy that
chainsaw man like chainsaw manwas the one like pretty much
like hey, you know, just go ham,go crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Like you know, if you want to paint a toe as a
villain, you know like whateverman is getting wild right now is
it panels, 10 panels in detailof the dead demon fannies damn
straight gooning damn for 10panels.
That's two pages bro sorry,random plug, I don't even read

(17:28):
chase no man, but like man,that's a gooner manga for sure.
But, Chainsaw man has neverbeen known for anything.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, okay, real quick.
I do think it's hilarious thatin Dandodon people stand up in
their panties Like in the firstseason.
That happens like two or threedifferent times.
Remember when they're fightingin the school.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Okay, I thought a really cool fight aspect was
fighting in the school that wasmade out of water.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the crab orwhatever.
Whenever they fight somethingsupernatural, all of a sudden
like this, like the like colorswitch happens, yeah the whole
atmosphere happens.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, I think it's very whenever evil eyes in
control, everything was purpleyeah and then when okun fights
back all red red, yeah, bro,when he busted his ass in that
box and he just kept going andkept going.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, that scene was so badass, I'm not talking about
it.
Do-do-do-do-do-do, I'm watching.
English 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, yeah, that was it, that was it.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah bro, it was badass.
I was like once somebody getsin this box, there's no getting
out.
And I was like, oh no, and thenhe fucked.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh, it was cool that was a cool ass scene, dog.
I always want to translate itinto like what I would say.
It's like well, you done,fucked up three ways, my friend.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
That was funny dog.
Now you done messed up threeways home, to dub it like that
yeah that'd be fun.
Yeah, we gotta do some shitlike that.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
That would be hilarious, bro, my homie yeah
even, even like jinjin's, likeuh, what do you call it?
Ghost entitled that.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
That was a sad story too oh, the evil eyes sad story,
yeah, but we don't know ifthat's real or not.
Was that bullshit?
Remember?
Because even yeah, because inthe end he says that evil eye
like whatever you wanted.
That's really an evil spirityeah, it'll project itself,
however, it needs to for you.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Maybe it might have started like that.
Him being a kid locked up as asacrifice, so maybe he does have
a sad backstory, but now he'sentirely an evil spirit that's
trying to kill all humanity.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Which again, I think it makes even more sense because
Gigi's whole thing is aboutmaking friends.
He sees a lonely kid.
All he wants to do is have afriend.
That's why he's like he sees alonely kid.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
All he, all he wants to do is have a friend.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's why he's like got his ass, you know he was
waiting for, like the acceptanceopening because I feel like, if
he rejected it, the typicaldemon yeah, he's like I got you
buddy, no worries, that's whatsold his ass yeah yeah, yeah, so
that was me yeah his ability isbadass though him with a little
fucking spirit ball bro, thevolleyball, that is the negative
energy That'll kill shit.
It's badass.
That's pretty cool.
It's badass.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
All the souls With hatred.
He pulls them in and like Justevil spirits.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, it's like it's just straight negative energy.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
We got a few more episodes left, so I think More
peak income it's gonna be good,hey man, you know, I did want to
talk about Something, grandma.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, oh bro, oh bro, g-maul is crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I love that concept that it's like we can goon over
like old lady over 60.
Like, let's go.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I like that the cat is arguing.
He's like what's up with thissuper strong hag yeah, the evil
one of the clan.
Yeah, and the cat goes likewhat do you mean?
You got a super old hag at home.
That's hilarious.
A super strong, strong, youknow, lady at home.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, because they had no, so I got a ps5 man shout
out to my brother who gave mehis old ps5, oh nice you're a
little late to the game, brother, I am I'm hella late, but I was
never gonna buy it.
I was never gonna say it'sabout to come hey, but it's free
though.
You know what I'm saying, so itwas cool, though, because I was
never gonna spend six to fivehundred bucks on the system, so
i'm't have PS5, so I'm justkidding.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
But he's like it shuts off every now and then and
I'm like what do you mean shutsoff?
So the game would just likesomething would get corrupted in
the game, Sometimes out of play, and it would just shut off.
But it doesn't happen all thetime.
I played for like 10 hours ofthe day, no problems.
I ended up buying.

(21:14):
I bought, like, the online gamePlus Pass, right, so you get
access to Sony's library, allkinds of things, right.
So I downloaded a few gamesMiles Morales, Spider-Man, Nice
which was really fun.
I get to test drive Spider-Man2 for a couple of hours.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
You know, what's cool about all those gaming services
now Is that you can get so muchlike.
You can play so many free games.
That's what I'm older ones andthey're great for us like I
never played those new ones forfree.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's like, what I can play that?
What do you mean?
Yeah, so like bloodborne.
Never played bloodbornebloodborne, but it's got a great
story, great reviews on it.
I play.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
It's a hard-ass game though, bro, oh yeah all those
games are difficult, yeah that'sone of the demon souls series.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Right, yeah, it's fucking wild, but then, uh, one
of the other ones that, oh, Ighost of you, was to Tewashima
Tewashima, I downloaded that oneas well.
That one's cool, played alittle bit of that Fun.
The one that really hooked myinterest, though, god of War.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Fall Guys.
Fall Guys is where it's at,though.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
No, detroit, become Human.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah about the.
Oh, I played Luna.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Bro being human or something.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Being human.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Is those sex?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, no, no.
Detroit it's a different, solet me paint the premise for you
.
This is what really gave me,got me impressed in the game.
This is one of the games thathas like a bunch of Alternate
endings Kind of.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Not as much as you would like, it's always the
thick robots.
The reboosey.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
So it is.
It's one of those games whereit has like 90 different endings
.
You know that you can unlock inthe whole process of the aieuc
and uh oh, detroit, become humanyeah

Speaker 3 (22:43):
actually, I actually never heard it came out on ps4,
but the graphics dog for it'sback from 2018 yeah, okay, 2018
bro the graphics, one of thosebig like hit games that kind of
get like shuffled away inhistory.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Dog, it's good and the premise is it's the year
2038 or android, so imagine chat, gpt, but in android bodies,
right?
Yeah, so same thing that thatelon and everybody else is
trying to do right now.
But it's there, but they're notlike oh, they look like
androids, they look like humans.
The only thing that indicatesthat they're androids is like
the little circle thing that'son the side of their, their
heads, or they have jackets thatyou know say whatever the

(23:16):
profession is.
But you can buy differentmodels.
There are made models.
There's a dad model, there's ahusband model, there's a kid
model, right?
Why raise a family when you canjust buy one, right?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I'm sure we're gonna get there some point, oh yeah,
out of time.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
It was wild, because the premise was supposed to be
like in the far future and I'mlike, because it was okay, 2018,
2038 is when it takes place.
It's 20 years in the future.
I'm like, yeah, but we're notfar off from this.
You're surprised that we'readvancing pretty quick.
So the thing is, it's like AI,androids, are now taking over
jobs.
People are losing jobs.
I'm sure that will happen andI'm like it's, it's very, and
it's like so now there's ahatred for Android.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, all you bastards Clankers.
That I was that.
Okay, you're going to hate allthe clankers, but there's going
to be a couple of cool ones.
You know you're going to belike what's that?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, first off, that's wild.
In 18 years, when we go back tothis, I can't wait to clip that
, bro, it's going to be likelook at this guy he can never be
governor.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
He sent the C word hard r at the end of it, bro,
it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
It's clanker, bro, it's clanker what about android
18?
You know okay okay, okay, sothe you get three different
stories in this one.
You are an android that is likea model one, right, not a model
, she's a, she's a maid andyou're in like a broken home.
The dad is a real fuck up.
He's a drug addict and there'sa daughter who you feel really
bad for that.
She's an abusive family andit's just him and the dad,
because oh, you play as the ai.

(24:41):
Yes, so you play as that one.
And then there's another one.
There's three different storiesthat are going on in the story.
The second one you play as ismarcus.
Marcus is actually from areally really well home, from a
famous artist.
He's treated like an equal.
The guy thinks that he's gotmore inside of him than what he
even has to know, right.
And then there's a third optionor third character that you
play.
His name is connor.
Connor is a prototype who'sactually working for the police

(25:02):
to find deviants.
Deviants are what's known as inthe ai for the game, are people
that break their programmingand they're allowed to do things
outside of what their programis.
So I wrote I robot, but they canbreak the three rules right,
okay, hired by the mafia, gokill whatever kind of, but it's
like because of emotionaldistress that they're going
through and you actually end upseeing the segregation of how
the androids are treateddifferently, as, for example, on

(25:23):
the bus.
There's like a loading dock,like where you would put your
luggage, that kind of thing inthe back, and the separate areas
like this is the androids, butthen there's the rest of the bus
where the humans can be at.
You know what I'm saying?
It's it's really wild like thebus stops.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
It's just their items exactly.
Are they right?
Yeah, so.
But I programmed the feelingslike we gotta be careful, like
well, that's the thing about it.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
They claim that they're alive because once they
break these programs, you'realive no, because it's the
emotional distress.
Andrews are treated like shitin this world, bro.
They're treated like dogs yeah,is this self-aware?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
like once it becomes self-aware, then you believe
you're alive I told that it canbe self-awareaware.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
It's a dangerous, it's a slippery slope.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
It's a slippery slope .

Speaker 1 (26:00):
You're programming not to be.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
You gotta program not to be.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, but then once it gets aware.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I gave my toaster the hardware to have the capability
.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
And now?
And so look, the Android'sargument is Now give us freedom.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
We got to shut this shit down.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's what it ultimately comes down to.
There are alternate routes thatyou can go in the game, but the
government intervenes and thenwe start getting rounded up in
camps.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Dog, how do you turn this shit up?
It's crazy.
It's crazy, but the story.
It spans in different ways Dothey have propaganda like
Trump's new PBS videos?
You have a public opinion.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
You have the public that goes on your side, whether
they can be for you or againstyou.
You can choose to be violent ornonviolent.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
What is freedom to them?
Like I live in the forest andshit.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
To not to be able to procreate to be equal rights how
.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Equal rights.
You're a robot.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
No, they have love robots.
Is it better to be a slave thanto die?
There's a murder case that youhad to end up solving the first
case that you actually have tosolve in the game is a hostage
situation where an android issnapped.
He killed the husband.
The wife is freaking out and heis.
He was going to get replaced,they were going to replace his

(27:07):
ass.
So now he's like he went crazy.
That's what made him snap, theemotional distress.
So now all that he has adaughter head and he's just like
and you have to figure outwhat's going on.
Right, you have to examine thecrime scene, figure out and
piece of shit all together tellsyou hostage yeah and then
basically I like this retro gamereview.
Dude, it's so cool because thenat the end of that first level
you can either like befriend himto actually make himself turn

(27:29):
it in himself in I think I don'teven know, because I haven't
unlocked that route.
One of them is okay, you getclose enough, you can't make a
bond of trust, so he pulls.
He was going to jump with thegirl, you snatch her off and you
throw her back, you sacrificeyourself.
The other one that I justunlocked, where I was like fuck
it, clint Eastwood and thatbitch, I went in there with the
gun, I hit it, I lied, shot hisass, got the girl and then, as a
cold-blooded motherfucker, hepops the mag out the girl's

(28:01):
crying on the floor.
He doesn't say shit to her bro,he walks off like a thug.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
That's like damn I am not programmed for emotional
distress you call the wrongandroid anyway, dog.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
So it's walked out like a real clanker like robocop
bro that's the first level, dog, and then the story goes from
there.
So, anyway, you can choose tostart a revolution, you can
choose to be a pacifist, angrycharacters can die in your story
and you and like you'll seelike missing in the map, where,
like, a story should have takenplace but it doesn't transpire
because your character has died,that's because, of the events

(28:30):
that you took place.
you can choose to be like moreor less extreme in the in your
actions, I guess.
But like a simple thing thingof I'm getting pressed by
somebody's son and he's reallygetting to my shit and I have an
option I can chill and not doanything or I can push him.
I was like a pushback should befine.
No, bro, I pushed the fuck outof him.
He hits his head, hits histemple, and the dad's like holy
shit, you killed him.

(28:50):
And I'm like that was anaccident, bro, I didn't mean to
do that.
So then you have a choice.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
You have to be careful as an AI, bro, you don't
know your own strength you killthe daddy, you kill the whole
room.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
I killed the whole.
No, it was crazy, but like Iburned the place down.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
It's very interesting , because the more radicalized,
you become as a robot, then it'sgoing to lead you down the
revolution.
Yeah, bro, but it's wild.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Let me just tell I ended up killing the chick and
the daughter.
It turned out the daughter thatyou were trying to protect the
entire time was an AI, right,and you had no idea the entire
time.
Yeah, so it's kind of a fuckyou thing.
It's like do you still want tokeep on running with this girl
now that she's not a human or doyou love her any less?
And you have the choice to make.
Right, you're playing as an AI,right?
Yeah, you're playing as the AIbro that you were trying to

(29:41):
protect, that you thought washuman, is now an AI and I'm like
no, I still care.
The FBI come in, they raid thearea that we're at.
My girl gets shot trying to doshit.
It's like Marcus the main.
He ends up becoming like arevolutionary.
He ends up like getting accusedof that murder I was talking
about.
They throw his ass in the dump.
He has to slowly rebuildhimself.
He ends up finding thisrevolutionary outpost and I
slowly start like awakeningandroids throughout the city and
I keep on preaching pacifistbro, but there's a love interest
that you have that she's likewe need to fight back.

(30:01):
We need to fight back and,depending on how much you love
the bitch, you'll do it right.
And ultimately, in the end, thepublic sees me, bro, like we're
on our hands and knees andthey're like are you really
gonna shoot unarmed people?
And, bro, they still kill usdog like it's wild.
We still survive.
There's a little bit of us.
A big ass battle takes place.
I choose love.
I kiss this bitch.
At the very end, everybody'slike the president's like all
right, stop, we've gone too far,it's too much.

(30:22):
And out of that time I hadconnor.
I corrupted him to a deviantright, not as a bad way, but
like he got more awake seeingall the shit that we were
experiencing.
Because I saw some of thesestories overlap and I'm like hey
, bro, you need your help, go tofucking cyber life and awaken
the thousand troops that we have, that are there.
And I have a choice.
I have a partner that a humanpartner, that doesn't like cops
or doesn't like androids theentire time.
He gets kidnapped at the veryfucking end.

(30:44):
I have to make a choice.
Do I save him?
Do I corrupt the people?
What do I do?
I save homeboy and in the end,because I befriended him so much
throughout the game, he's likehey, I think what you're doing
may be right.
Go ahead and do what you got todo and I'm able to awaken the
army of thousands of androidsand Detroit's like, okay, we got
to leave these guys alone, letthem have their peace, and we'll
have to reconcile and see howit goes.
This is a new awakening inhistory for mankind.

(31:06):
Maybe android species is a newtype of life.
Maybe artificial intelligenceis a new kind of life.
And that's how the game ends.
I won freedom by doing all thisshit.
I was like whoa, this is crazydog.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
What if it is?
What if it really is?
Is like our biological speciesturns into ai, like that, like
this is, like it's the way wecan travel space, you know, like
yeah, the gimmick is in my mindis going to be like hey, just
upload your consciousness intothe same car.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh, alien.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
The new alien earth tv show came out and the title
card at the beginning is likethere's three type of new
species species, or I guess andit's like one of them.
Depending on which one goesforward, you know it's going to
be what corporation is going torule everything.
So there's the androids, or no?
There's a cyborgs which are onaugmented human beings, right.

(31:51):
The synths which are like fullycreated Androids, right.
Or the hybrids, which isuploaded consciousness onto an
Android.
Alienware is posting them like.
Those are the three options.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
That's not going to be far off.
Guys, Are you going?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
to upgrade yourself to become a cyborg, since which
are, just you know, ai'sAndroids?
Or are you going to upload yourconsciousness into an?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Android body.
It's basically become like afashion statement.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Oh, I haven't watched the episode, so I'll bring that
review once I watch the fullepisode no, it's gonna be
because you know you got a lotof good things about you, got a
different model for whateveryou're feeling.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
You know I'm saying you're like uh, it's like that
netflix series, uh, carbonsomething oh carbon.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I think it's just called carbon or altered carbon
or something like he uploadshimself into a different body
yeah, yeah, I mean that in mymind that's gonna be the future,
bro, because I'm like.
It's like, oh, you get to liveforever.
It's like, but it's thatgimmick of like is this really
you or is it just?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I think that's way, just the ghost, the ai ghost.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, because like we haven't figured out how to like
there's so much going on in thebrain, you know.
Yeah, like we will need like somuch like storage capacity for
that yeah, I mean hey, but theygot terabytes and little things.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Now you know what I'm saying.
That's true.
How much is the human brain?
How many terabytes?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah it's going to be crazy.
Can you imagine we're gettingthere At me in the comments.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
At me, we're getting there, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
I'll talk about my spiritual journey.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Break anyway next year we'll see you guys in the
next one.
No, I'm joking, uh, where's youknow what I wanted to know?
Suki's two cents on the wholeai thing oh no well, ladies and
gentlemen, this has been the wbmpodcast.
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