May 19, 2025 • 36 mins
On this weeks episode the boys review the new Marvel movie, Thunderbolts* aka The New Avengers, exploring how this team of damaged heroes brings a fresh and surprisingly emotional dynamic to the MCU franchise. Also don't forget the WBM Podcast will be at Comicpalooza 2025, June 22nd at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston, Texas!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you so much for tuning into the WBM podcast.
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It's your boy Merc Yo.
Welcome back everybody.
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
And it's your boy, oski, and the mix.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And the mix To the Merc.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Unnecessary Do we have one of an unnecessarily
safety net.
Do we have for you today?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Oh, we have.
What do we have, guys?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh, we're speaking Thunderbolt.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We're talking New Avengers.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's right, yes, new.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Avengers Comfort blankets and all that good stuff
.
You know what I'm saying, guys.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We're talking the B-Team squad.
No, we're talking about like ata restaurant on a Monday when
it's empty, was it?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
hype, or was it wildly mediocre?
It was highly mediocre.
Too late to find out on thisone.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
As always, we're going to do a quick update on a
special announcement that wehave that's right guys, you guys
ready, let's go.
We're back for another week.
This is your boys, yourfavorite boys in town.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
The boys are back in town.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Y'all wanna just get the announcement out the way.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yes, man.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We already announced it.
I'm sorry.
If you watched last week'sepisode, you saw our special
announcement we're gonna be atComic Bullets for 2020.
That's right.
June 22nd through the 22nd.
Audience is so loud At theGeorgia Abroad Convention Center
at Comic Pollution 2020.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's right, june 22nd, through the 22nd Audience
is so loud At the Georgia AboundConvention Center.
Yes, georgia Abound ConventionCenter.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Ladies and gentlemen, this summer, this summer, this
summer Summer, suki over hereplaying with buttons bro.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But yeah, no, it's exciting.
We're excited to come back.
There's a huge line of gueststhat we have coming.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Every week they send out a newsletter with
announcements and we like to doa little check-in.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
That's right guys.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Of course, since we just announced, when we haven't
had a chance to go overeverything, but we're going to
give you the Comicpaloozaroundup All week, all week, all
week.
You thought that was funnyright, I got to go live with it.
I love it.
That is the cricket set thefirst guests that were announced
way back when they kicked offwith.
One of the first guests wasmaker, extraordinaire science
(02:08):
communicator and industry legend, adam Savage.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh, Adam Savage.
Hey, he's got good work.
What is some of the stuff thathe does?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
man, yeah man.
I think he worked in Star Wars.
Oh dope, really, he makes stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
He's the guy from that show about the Mythbusters.
No way, really, that's him, ishe?
Yeah, I'm fairly sure that'shim, and him and his brother
used to do stunts and shit Likeyo.
Is this true?
And I think one they did was ablowing from the cops, you know,
when the breathalyzer, themachine, the myths and stuff.
They beat it but they didn'tshow you, they just know they
(02:42):
can't do it.
It's possible.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh, he was in Mythbusters.
Yeah, the goat, the goat.
Yeah, see.
And he did work in Star Wars,episode I, so he made stuff for
Star Wars.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Episode I oh, that's pretty dope.
Okay, okay, okay, butMythbusters though, bro.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That's impressive in my opinion.
That was a big show for us backin the day.
I'm surprised you didn't.
You were at Midwesters then.
I liked it.
It was some cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Among some of the other stars was New York Times
best selling author of A HeadFull of Ghosts and the Cabin at
the End of the World.
And the Cabin at the End of theWorld Along with Dune and Long
Life star Alicia Witt.
She was in the original Dune.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Don't get me the original dude.
She was in the original dude,okay, okay, don't get him
confused, don't get him confusedwith me the original dude is
still pretty cool, damn.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
My name is Paul Artuk Andradez.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Duke of Arrakis.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Another guest coming up is Patton Oswalt.
He voiced Ratatouille.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
He voiced Ratatouille .
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He voiced Ratatouille .
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
That's right, that's dope.
Look at this.
He's a great comedian.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
He's in a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He was in Agents of SHIELD, his wife wrote this
extraordinary novel about aserial killer in California I
think it was called the GoldenState Killer and she did this
novel based on him and shedocumented everything.
And then a few months later,unfortunately, she passed away,
I believe of cancer.
And then a few months laterthey captured the guy.
(04:14):
Really, yeah, man, theycaptured the guy Great story.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He seemed like such a cool guy, a cool nerd.
He was in Parks and Rec and hewas doing an episode where he
does a filibuster and he goesinto what the next Star Wars
movie could be and he basicallydescribes the beginning of the
Boba Fett series.
Sam, you see a hand come up Waybefore the Boba Fett show came
out what I remember that fromParks and Rec.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Dude.
They probably were like, bro,we're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They probably just fired it Somebody was faded as
fuck when they watched that Sam?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
They probably were like, bro, we're going to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
They probably just fired it Somebody was faded as
fuck when they watched that Sadtattooing Hand shoots up and
more author another authorthat's coming up.
Writer.
Sunday Times bestselling.
Author of the Drowning EmpireTrilogy and the Gods Below,
andreas Stewart.
Oh yes, I've read it Moving on,Don't get me so lied to we got
some good ones for you this week, In case you missed it Sosie
Bacon, who's best known for herleading role in the horror
(05:05):
sensation Smile.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, I haven't watched Smile.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
There's a few stars for horror fans, yeah there's a
few horror fans out there, foranime fans.
They are going to have SeanShamo.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Sean Shamala Goku himself.
Who also played Goku's black,who also plays Ikori, who also
plays a different goku bus, asad goku.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
He's played many roles but uh speaking of last
week, actors that could playmultiple characters in the same
universe yes, sean shemo michael, michael b jordan and sean
shemo.
Yes, and we also havesuperstars lisa mary baron, aka
victoria, and tory wilson fromthe wwe home fame and with
charles wright, also known asthe godfather, yes, so they got
(05:49):
some, uh, some good big namessuperstars I love you after that
they announced a big one, whichwas hayden christensen the king
himself never heard ofchristian, so demand him if the
legend we're really excitedabout that.
Well, we talked about a lotabout it last week.
Uh coming good fans, they havesome uh comic book uh creators
(06:11):
founding partner of emash comicsand top cow, mark silvestri and
joe esma, creator of morningglories and much more guys, so
make sure you tune in, we're atoh, we got a couple more.
We do have a couple more.
I'm sorry, we're doing the fullrundown.
We're doing the full rundown.
He said we're at.
Oh, we got a couple more.
We do have a couple more.
I'm sorry, we're doing the fullrundown.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
We're doing the full rundown he said we're doing the
full rundown, damn it, we'redoing the whole thing.
We're doing the whole thing.
You don't leave with thecredits.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, okay, uh.
And then has anybody heard of aseries called resident alien?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
oh, I haven't, but I know that there are five stars
that are coming from that showyes, uh, alan Tudyk.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I think he plays the alien.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Not one, but two.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But Alan Tudyk is cool because he voices like a
bunch of characters, like hevoice a droid in Star Wars, in
Rogue One.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, beep, beep, no, no, no, it's yeah the Empire
droid, the badass one.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, the black guy.
Oh, he played the pirate inDodgeball, he does.
He played the pirate in.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Dodgeball, and in the DC universe he voices like
Clayface.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He's like Pirate Pete or something like that.
You're not a real pirate, AlexWaterman Sarah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Tomko and Corey Reynolds, also all from Racing
Alien, and we got some cosplayguests and more guests like
coming with guests ChristopherRocho and Carl Horn, plus more,
more announcements.
You need to see James Cheek,keith Silverstone, spike Spencer
they could be heard inEvangelion, pokemon, bleach,
(07:33):
bunga, stray Dogs Just moreanime voice acting and then
adding to the Star Wars lineup.
They also have Tamera Morrisonthat we already talked about
Plays Jango Fett and Boba Fett.
And I'm sure there are going tobe more announcements coming up
and much more yeah much more.
So stay tuned in the followingweeks for more.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm going to show you how I do that, and so much more
.
Ladies and gentlemen, tune infor the following weeks, and
we're going to have so much morefor you guys, alright.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
More than jumping, bro.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, no, no I just wanted to see how y'all were
going to fall flat when at.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
At the George R Brown convention, when June 20th to
the 22nd, that's right.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So make sure you get your tickets.
Be there early, get your VIPaccess, bring cash.
There's going to be a lot ofthings for you to be buying,
especially in this recession.
Speaking of the recession, yeah, segue into, segue into a
Talking about Avengers in thebudget.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Something in the way that was a yeah Avengers on a
budget, on a diet keto budget,is exactly what we got Facts,
man.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, budget, avengers, sure, budget.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Avengers.
It wasn't bad, but it was morelike this could have been like
an eight-part episode series onDisney+, you know what I thought
.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So If this wasn't Disney+, there could have been a
couple episodes where weexpanded on the story a little
more and maybe I would have beenmore invested.
I was like man watching themovies.
I was like I could have waiteduntil this got to Disney+.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, Now it's not bad.
Yeah, we're giving our honestopinion right out the gate.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So, yeah, yeah, we came out swinging.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It was wildly mediocre.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Uh, I don't think it was mediocre.
I think it was like I couldhave waited for disney plus, but
it's not bad, it's not bad, Ijust wouldn't for me.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm like, if it's if, if I'm waiting for it on
netflix, bro, then it wasn'tgood, you know it wasn't great
okay, that's a good measure,like okay I see if I could have
waited for it on netflix or youknow whatever.
Yeah yeah, that's, that's my, myargument.
Like you had to be there towatch infinity war in theaters,
endgame in theaters, spider-manin theaters like those are
moments you're like, yeah, itwas in their mind, but um so so
(09:39):
have we been spoiled becauseit's been so good that, like,
the standards are so fuckinghigh.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, people were saying that this is kind of
hopeful because it's kind oflike Marvel getting back to form
, Because it does set up like anew, like hey, we're kind of
getting back to character focusand good stories.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, that was their thing.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
They tried to say this is quality over quantity.
Yeah, this is us getting backto proper form.
So that's where I'm at.
Like, well, it wasn't that badof a movie.
It is an improvement on whatthey've been releasing.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, it's not terrible, but I mean, like, when
I saw things like Black Widowwas like I want to say right
underneath this as far as themovie goes, and I'm like I I
think this is much better thanblack widow.
Yeah, you know, I'm sorry.
Like how about this?
I enjoyed this version of blackwidow more than I did, uh,
scarlett johansson so far reallywell, yelena, yeah, florence
(10:34):
pugh's character, I mean likeshe's just hotter
no, but she's just a likablecharacter on screen, yeah but
again I'm like but why did theyrob scarlett johansson then, bro
?
Why didn't she get a chance tolike, and you know what she did,
have moments on screen whereshe got to grow, but nobody
cared, no, nobody cared.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We all missed her from iron man 2.
You know we all miss her fromthere like damn that version of
her was banger.
Yeah, that was the best oneever.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, and then they were like yeah, let's not make
her too sexy though.
Oh man see that's the shit.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And then they were like, yeah, let's not make her
too sexy though.
Ah, man see, that's the shit.
And then we know FlorencePuglin, and that's the thing.
It's like, maybe because ofspoilers, because you see
someone like, damn, scarlett isso fine and beautiful.
And Florence Puglin's like,yeah, you know, she's hot.
She's hot too, I guess no, no,because at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
She's got that je, it's the face bro, something
that it is in the face.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I'm so spoiled.
It's like I just ate adelicious sundae fudge with
strawberry bananas and all I canthis is an apple.
The apple's great, it's healthyfor you, it's delicious, but I
just ate a banana fudgestrawberry, with all the
knickknacks on it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, but look Now the banana fudge.
They were like, nah, I don'twant to do it no more, it's too
expensive, because it's a lot ofstuff Banana fudge, the
chocolate.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I get it, I get it, I get it or you can just pick
this apple up off the tree.
Apple and tajin and I'm, like Iactually do like apple and
tajin.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But, I just finished the banana actually say oh, I'm
the next black widow, or hercode name is black widow no,
does yelena?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
is there a yelena in the marvel comics?
Yes, is she black widow or shelike her own, uh own superpower
I think she does think of hername.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, it's because black widow is like an
organization yeah, black widow,black Widow, it's the Red Room
organization or whatever.
Hey, what did you like aboutthe movie in the beginning?
Damn, that's a hard one.
It's not bad, though I mean I'mnot going to say it's terrible.
Wait, wait wait, wait, shit,hang on Shit.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
What's your name?
Super hot to this day you askedTico.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You answered for Tico .
You were Answered for him.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I was gonna give a shout out To Homegirl from
Seinfeld, who plays the villain.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh, or I don't know what her name is.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You look beautiful as the day.
I saw you From the 90s,homegirl from Seinfeld yeah,
still hot the one that's likePulling all the strings In the
back.
I bring her up.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Because she was been like kind of like working since
yeah, in the background sincethen, yeah, yeah so she's kind
of been introduced and kind oflike but again so much
eventually she's gonna becomelike a big character.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't know if she's become that big character yet,
but you had to watch all the youhad to watch a lot of tv series
and movies in order to keep upwith this one, bro, oh yeah, I
mean you had to watch the BlackWidow movie to know Yelena's
backstory.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It would have helped to also watch Hawkeye to know
her struggle, and then Falconand the Winter Soldier, or
Captain America and the WinterSoldier, right.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And then Ant-Man and the Wasp 2.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
There's a ghost, oh for ghosts, because where, where
those ghosts even come fromrandom at man too, and yeah,
it's a man too.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
She's a big bad from me.
And then that's when you getblack widow just for taskmaster
for the five minutes which I'mso sad it took, bro I feel bad
when she has to go to pressrelease tours and like they're
like.
So what did you think aboutworking in the film?
Oh, so amazing, it was great itflew by for me I mean
Speaker 2 (13:57):
the cast is so wonderful.
The sit looks so much betterthis time around.
Oh man, they made her so muchmore comic book accurate and I
liked it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I was excited for her character.
Bro me too, even the fact thatshe had, like, the mask opened
up.
I'm not here for you.
Oh, okay, okay, I fucks with it, pop that's it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
At the same time, everybody was like, oh, they
fucked up that character so bad.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I think that's the one backlash that they got about
a lot of people it's like, wow,what a way to throw away a
comic book a great character.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, like they finally got him right, but they
fucked it up in the first moviethat she was in yeah.
I mean, it's not so much thatit was gender swapped, it was
just the fact that they fuckedup the character that doesn't
even bother me the gender swapright now.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Marvel, there was awesome action scenes where they
stay, they fight, uh, multiplehenchmen with guns.
Like you could have had like amimic scene where, like captain
america is fighting the henchmenand exact same movement, set is
taskmaster doing the exact samedance and taking also henchmen
and like yeah, and then she likeeverybody has a fight, but you
(14:58):
see, like testament, just copyeverybody's fight, like within
that seat, like I'm justpainting it.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
What it would look like if they kept her like was
that pop was just unnecessary,to be honest I saw on socials
there was a version of thescript who knows how true it is,
I think where she stayed aliveand she has.
She has memory problems becauseof black widow, I think.
She has memory problems.
Throughout the movie she keepstrying to kill john walker
because that was her assignment.
Yeah, so they kept likereminding her.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's like no, we're working together yeah, and like
the midst of it they're like itcan be like a big-ass gunfight
going on.
I know whether she's just gonnabe like looks over at this,
motherfucking, just starts goingfor him again he's like fuck,
not again.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I thought it would have been good for you that
would have been hilarious.
Another thing one thing that Idid like about the movie early
on and throughout was the humor.
I mean it was funny okay, yeah,okay the humor wasn't cheesy,
okay, yes yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I don't remember like a cringe, like thor y'all
pointed out, thor, there weresome thorn boys like oh, kind of
cringy comic-y yeah, not thehumor work not this one, not, I
don't remember me really like uhcringy it worked with the uh
the sneeze scene in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That was hilarious banter between the characters.
Everybody like giving JohnWalker shit.
Like Yelena and Ghost givingJohn Walker shit.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh, in the back of that car.
Yeah, bro, that was hilarious.
Do you like the cool Do?
You think it's cool.
Do you think it's cool?
I?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
mean, yeah, I think it's kind of cool yeah, if you
think it's cool.
It's cool, I guess, relatableas fuck.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That's fucked.
I was like that's fucked up.
Yeah, exactly, I was like Justtell them you don't like the hat
.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
There was a lot of guys in there that fucking, that
smacked their lips, bro, whenthey saw that shit.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
They were talking about the gun.
It's like, yeah, that's such abig gun.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean, and it's kind of big.
Bro, it's relatable as shit.
Like that was funny.
That was really, really funny.
What I liked is that they gaveyou Bob within the first 20
minutes of the film, 20, 30minutes of the film.
You get Bob when they get therethe Sentry.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think that plot twist was kind of like you know,
you knew it was like oh well,that's Bob, that's the Sentry.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I think there were a lot of people who were
just completely oblivious, likeyou.
The hell is this guy.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, I guess that's true, you know so in that aspect
, yeah, because we go into thiscomic book with some comic book
knowledge.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Absolutely.
But if you have no idea, likeI've had people be like like.
Here's an example when Buckyand Captain the Winter Soldier,
when he took off his mask and itwas Bucky I legit heard people
go in theaters, I was like yo,yo in theaters right now and I
(17:23):
was like well, I guess to somepeople who don't know.
You know you give them thecredit but or the benefit of the
doubt.
But it makes me laugh but uh,yeah, but like I said, I like
bob's introduction.
Bob was one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Him and alexi were my favorite characters in the
entire film, bro oh yeah, thered guardian because, like in
the movie, they're bringing like, like the sentry's part of the
sentry project, because it stillis from the captain america
project.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, the super soldier and like when I read
that I was like, is it?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
and then, yes, in the marvel comics it is.
It's just marvel.
Marvel goes beyond.
We're like an entity frombeyond time and space
coincidentally fucking mergewith them and the cells help
them retain that god-likefeature that is the century.
But they caught, they cut a lotof that, you know, because they
do.
Marvel does it for the sake ofthe audience.
But that that makes sense.
Like how much in the marvelcomics and mcu do they?
(18:07):
They've revolved around thecaptain america serum, yeah,
like so many villains or heroeslike the captain americans here.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Captain americans here yeah, everybody wanted that
in the mcu.
Like every other villain islike oh, there's just another
version.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah it was just something that went wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I mean hope, yeah, absolutely but it makes sense,
like even in the marvel comedy,they'll say no, it was a captain
, the captain marvel's, thecaptain america's serum yeah, I
can't say that five times fastcan't america say I'm, can't
mention I'm not gonna, if youwere waiting for it I was, uh,
(18:42):
revolves around it a lot and Iloved it.
I actually do love it.
So you know, I take that back.
Uh, in regards to them usinglike whoa, how did the century
come about?
Just like the comics, thecaptain american serum, yeah bro
yeah, it's just another.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Try out the super soul here.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, but I like this concept of like, uh, a
recovering addict with some deep, dark mental issues which is
the theme of the movie right,Loneliness, trauma and they do
explain it, because he was nevermeant to be decent.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
They were just prototypes.
They were supposed to bethrowaway experiments.
He just happened to survive.
He just happened to survive.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
She was like, okay let's work with one guy.
Yeah, I got something.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But yeah, the theme of mental health and Trauma.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
They touched some dark topics in this film.
I will say that they did a goodjob of doing it.
It also worked.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It also worked really well what's her name?
Yelena Yelena.
Yelena's story herself issomething very traumatic about
what the Scarlet Widow projectwas.
In Russia they had them huntdown their own friends at a
childlike age, which is crazy,like when that dream sequel that
remembering sequence of her uhturning in her friend to the
(19:47):
woods and they get shot.
Yeah, apparently it was theother way around too if she
didn't done it, she was next.
You know, that's what it is shegot called the woods I think it
was training to are you, areyou like?
I don't know if it's kind of sofucked up kind of training about
betrayal, but definitely it'slike it teaches you how to like.
I guess they're taught not toget attached yeah, these aren't
your friends.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
This is your target, no target out here.
Yeah, absolutely yeah, it's.
It's all training basedwhenever it came to that shit.
That's just she said, I'm sorryyou know, like it's ain't
personal, it's just business,you know yeah I mean, I think,
the mental health aspect of themovie, even towards the end.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
it's such a big part of the climate Her dealing with
alcoholism, bro, her alcoholism,remember.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
She was fucking passed out on the floor.
Bob was seen with his parentsabused downstairs.
What else John Walker's?
Losing his family?
His dealing with his cripplingself-image and his ego was
deflating.
He lost his fucking kids.
I'm trying to figure out.
Was there anybody else whowitnessed her own father's
murder?
But she was a cold-bloodedmotherfucker because as soon as
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she saw that she was likealright, I'm gonna be right back
.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
But she was the only one who I was gonna take a quick
break.
Yeah, she wasn't shook likethat.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
No she was shook.
It just really fucked with her.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
At least out of everybody, though.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
There's three scenes, like there was a scene where
they say like we swallow it, weswallow it up, bottle it and we
leave it here right, yeah, solike you push it down, you push
it down, you push it down, she'san alcoholic, like you see
scenes where she's throwing thebathtub drunk out of her mind.
Yeah, so you know what I'mtalking about?
One of my favorite characterswhich is, uh, what's his name?
The red captain america.
Uh, red guardian.
The red guardian, like, if younotice his character, his
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character is a happy-go-lucky,you know, everything's gonna be
fine.
You know, push through.
You know, like, hey, I'm gonnafight captain america one day,
which I hope they do it, youknow, eventually.
But if you notice, like, ifwe're talking about trauma, then
he is no different.
It's just other people's way ofhow they act on it.
You know, like, he reminds youa lot of, like my parents are,
you know, immigrants.
So, like a lot of the immigrantpeople handle it that way.
(21:36):
It was like, no, you know, backhome is worse.
You talking about, you knowthey're starving over there.
I'm in America, I got Netflix,you know what do I care?
You know, but it shows that atthe end of the day, he's
probably an alcoholic.
We don't know, always working,he never sleeps, you know.
So he doesn't want to go tobecause he doesn't want to face
it, because if he sleeps, heknows what.
(21:57):
He went through russia russiayeah, it's siberia.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You gotta do the accent I couldn't do it all of
it and he's telling you I neversleep.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
The only ones that probably got us probably bucky,
but bucky himself is like tryingto do his wrongs for running
for senator.
He feels like he's gotta.
He's gotta change the worldbecause he was getting electric
brain shots bro like he wasstill getting his own, yeah yeah
, like they all have a sense oftrauma.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You know, yeah, and we don't need to see much of
Bucky's character developmentbecause we have already seen it.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, we have seen a lot of his character development
.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, we have seen his character development
already, so I think that's whyhe played a little bit of a
background role in the movie.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, but Yelena wasn't a bad character.
Again, I didn't see that coming.
I didn't know that.
Florence, you know her nameisn't Florence Pugh, it's Pugh
yeah, pugh yeah.
But I didn't think FlorencePugh was going to be the main
character Florence Pugh.
And the fact that she was,though, and she did a good job
at it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, I think it worked.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I mean, that's the best cure for depression and
mental health.
5'4" blonde telling you thatyou're not alone, Bruh, Not even
5'4".
She's like 4'9" yeah man, butthat would solve my mental
health problem Absolutely.
Okay, real quick.
We haven't talked about Bob.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
We haven't talked about Bob enough in the sense of
comic book, accurate, likedesign, fight, all of it he got
the suit and whenever he gotcontrol of his powers, it worked
Like that scene at the top ofAvengers Tower.
Yeah, the new Avengers Tower,Remodel Avengers Tower.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, that scene when the whole team takes him on, it
was the best action in the film.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I wish we would have got 20, 30 minutes of that
instead of 10 minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, but we really got to tease on what his
capabilities as a sentry are,man.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Like stop time but stop bullet projectiles,
something that you said I'mgoing to be like his black widow
to the Hulk you know what I'msaying she's going to be like
something real low.
She's going to be that and itonly makes sense because she was
the most the calm to the mostpowerful being, it's only going
to make sense that the next mostpowerful being is going to be
her sister to calm him down aswell.
Now, what I think is that shapeor form to the very last movie
(23:58):
until he's gonna be theMacGuffin, the fucking MacGuffin
, the get out of jail free card.
Whenever you painted yourselfinto the corner, they're gonna
pull him out and then he's gonnafly in, and because he's so OP,
yeah, or also I don't thinkthey're gonna use him again.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I think it's gonna be like he lost his powers he has
no access to that.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
No, I the second one Endgame.
Was it the second one Endgame?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Where the ship was like about to start, you know,
and then suddenly-.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And then, fucking Captain Marvel, cut the ship in
half.
You know, and you know what?
Would you be mad if fucking-.
It makes sense.
Dr Doom has the InfinityGauntlet.
He's about to one-shot fuckingCaptain America in the face,
ding.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Holds it, breaks it.
They Look he's like You're nogod.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Bro, that'd be a bar, that'd be a bar.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I can see that.
Like he punches with thegauntlet, they collapse.
He's powerless now, but we heldthe punch.
Yeah, and then Doctor Doom islike Now equal to everybody.
Now the fight begins.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
See, look, that's it.
That's the shit that's gonnahappen.
What I know that's for part two, secret Wars, bro, dude and.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Secret Wars, bro dude , and I can see Miles Morales.
Maybe they're purposely pushinghim back because maybe the
secret ending of Doom War I'mgoing to get ahead of myself is
probably Miles Morales in liveaction.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Bro, what All right?
No, I will say the secretending was dope.
It leads into Fantastic Four.
But now we already know theending of Fantastic Four.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, supposedly it was directed by the Russo
brothers.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It was, which I think is amazing, the secret ending.
Yeah, the last three-minuteending.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
They're already working on the Avengers movie.
Yeah, so the secret ending whenthey see the Fantastic Four
ship coming through space wasdirected by the Rooster Brothers
.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, and I like that chemistry.
The way that they were alreadyacting at the end was different
in comparison to where they wereat in the movie.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's because they had those directors behind them.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And it's going to be good.
Their chemistry bro is going towork, so fucking well.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
It's going to work so good.
And I think that whole idea ofanother Civil War, new Avengers
versus Avengers, that's going tobe cool, that's going to be
awesome Again, even the namechange the New Avengers,
Marvel's reveal when they sweptthat off all the poster boards.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
In other words, if you haven't seen this movie yet,
fuck you.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Rick Arden came in with the New Avengers, with the
Z.
With the Z yeah, the tracksuitwith all the sponsors, sweeties,
the best side.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
New Avengers with the Z, there's no trademark.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, I sound French, I can't do it.
Yeah, I can there for it.
But again, it already spoilsthe ending of what the Fantastic
Four film is going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I think the Fantastic Four movie spoils itself
Because we know that they'regoing to come to the main
universe.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It makes you think of Captain America.
Captain America, remember whenthe first one came out?
It takes place in World War I,World War II era you know he's
going to be frozen, yeah, andthe question is, how does he
make it over here?
Oh well, he gets frozen, sameshit.
It's just like I wonder howthey're gonna make it.
Oh, just fucking jump reality.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
He's like oh they've already done that multi-verse
traveling.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
We've seen that already at this point, because
it's been introduced so manytimes and like from Doctor
Strange, it's only a nominee inanother universe.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
There's nothing that can stop Galactus.
He's like the doomsday it'sover.
If you look in the trailer so Ican imagine they come to our
reality, because the only thingthat could have stopped it, that
they don't have in theirreality, is the Sentry.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
As an example.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And the Sentry in theory could have stopped
Galactus.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, and then he is a cosmic level being at that
point.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So we'll see.
We'll see when the FantasticFour movie comes out.
Yeah, I know I'm more excitedabout Fantastic Four.
I was more excited aboutFantastic Four than Thunderbolts
, bro, but I still sawThunderbolts opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I'm excited for fucking the Doomsday bro.
They already started filming.
You already seen Shang-Chi's onset?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Mbaku's on set.
Oh, channing Tatum is on set.
Channing Tatum's on set, is heplaying?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Gambit he has to.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Right, yeah, it's a picture.
Marvel put it out, bro, theydid it.
Marvel put it out.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
They were all together.
They already said they watchedthe screening of Thunderbolts
together and it's the wholesquad.
Rdj is there.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Paul Rudd is there, bro, they come in here.
Hot, I think this day is gonnawork.
It's gonna be, and I thinkthat's what this is.
This is like marvel saying hey,we're getting back to form,
we're gonna try to fix this shittogether.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
They can reset everything here, whatever they
fucked up is like secret war isbasically where they can reset
you know which is the next bigfilm that they're gonna do after
that.
This is crazy.
Yeah, bro, like they can dowhatever.
Doomsday is gonna be like theirnext big avengers film, yes,
but as far as like a resetsecret wars, that's where they
can reset anything that theywanted to like, because I've
been missing the shangri-pa.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What was that series called?
Wasn't the series called?
It was so the secret wars 2,which happens in modern day,
because I'm like the way thatthat series just like was such a
throwaway plot line well, theoriginal concept was heroes and
villains are put on a planettogether.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
They give the hero, the villains, a year in advance
to to do whatever they want withtheir civilization, with their
area and their time, anddifferent villains do different
things.
So it's like doc ock does onething, dr doom does another
thing and then another villaindoes another thing.
Each one of them rulesdifferently.
One's like with an iron fist.
One of them doesn't have likefucking any control at all.
One, he, just wants to be aregular nigga and one, uh is a
(29:02):
tyrant or some shit like that.
But ultimately it's to see whatreally will win good versus
evil, and that's when you havethose impossible things that
happen.
Spider-man gets a new suit.
He gets the black, uh venomsuit, without realizing that
it's venom.
Yet uh, the hulk yes, you getthat iconic uh one where he's
holding that mountain.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
They're gonna do it doomsday, going to do in
Doomsday?
Yeah, you think they're goingto bring Black Suit Spider-Man?
Oh, that's if they were goingto do it, but in Doomsday
Because obviously Tom Hollandwill be mentioned.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's going to be the Battleworld plotline.
That's what I'm saying.
If they do it, it's supposed totake place in Battleworld.
If they do it, that's the onetime Deadpool and you know,
whoever?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
That'd be tough to bring Deadpool though.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Deadpool's going to be the hardest, bro.
Ryan Reynolds is expensive man.
Marvel owns him, bro.
At this point his career isjust hanging on by a thread
because of the whole BlakeLively shit at this point as far
as working.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's crazy man.
He was to the top of the world.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I think they could probably offer him less money
now.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Absolutely, he's going to have to take, but at
the end of the day, dog, haveyou even seen those likes on
social media?
Their likes aren't even whatthey were, bro.
The views aren't even what theywere, bro.
He was getting like a millionlikes per post after Deadpool 3,
dog, now 250,000 likes he lostsome name recognition yeah bro
that really hurt him.
Yeah, it really hurt him, andall because of his wife.
Not even him, bro.
Not even him.
That's what I'm saying.
(30:14):
He should have Anyway.
Yeah, man, we feel it that'sall.
If y'all want to hear moreabout that shit.
Let us know, We'll tell youguys all about it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
One take on the Entenables movie that I had was
this whole marketing thing.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
They changed the name .
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, the asterisk was meant to be like.
Hey, this is not the real name.
The real name is the NewAvengers.
The New Avengers.
That's the real name of themovie.
I think it's a cool marketingscheme, but at the same time
it's a marketing ploy that cameup with the idea.
It's like we don't reallybelieve in this movie, so let's
try to come up with somemarketing ploy to try to really
push it.
(30:50):
Not only that, because theyspoiled it, it came out Thursday
.
By Sunday they had alreadystarted doing that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Changed the name of the posters.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, so it was like.
This is kind of like spoilery.
You didn't expect that manypeople to watch the movie, so
you came in with a marketingploy to push the movie after the
fact.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I'll be honest, I think they would have held off
on it if it broke $100 milliondomestically, but I think it
only broke like $78 million andthey're like all right, go ahead
get the reveal Rip that bandaid.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Because they, you know so I don't know, I think
that's, I think that's fine.
That's my take on that's not anoutrageous statement and the
movie ended up making 78, whichis above projections.
Yeah, it's like more than theythought it was gonna make,
correct?
But which one was the onebefore this?
Uh, snow white captain america.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, how much did that one make?
Uh, not enough.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'm joking, I have no idea, unfortunately, well, they
expected it not to perform asgood as that one.
Yeah, and it did.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It did, but, granted, it took a whole squad and you
know that one took Harrison Ford.
So I mean, it's the same thing.
You put all the talent together.
I'm joking In conclusion.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
In conclusion, conclusion.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Conclusion what do you guys, hard seven, solid
seven, wait for it on disneyplus?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I'm in the same place , I'm in the same boat, exactly.
I got a hard seven thesequences that the movie is like
you can tell, especially whenbucky showed up that one scene
he shows us with the uh, withthe canon.
Yeah, he saves everybody.
There's literally episode fourof this eight part series you
know I would have watched it,yeah it's like you can tell this
this thing was built, that hair, uh, if it didn't work out, we
(32:26):
can release it in series.
You know, true, but right then,and there?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
That's how the episode ended was.
Oh, and then the trailer hitsPretty much what.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I've done.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
The.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Starcast is great, but they're like A-level
celebrities, because there'sA-plus level celebrities and
then there's A.
You know it's mixed in there.
There's a known celebrity,florence Pugh is A right now,
because there's A plus level.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So then there's A.
You know it's mixed in there.
You know Florence Pugh is Aright now because she's
everywhere, so is the RedGuardian.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I give her Red Guardian.
I definitely went back andwatched Oppenheimer over again
absolutely, because her scene ofthe pot pivotal.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You know what I'm saying pivotal it made sense,
don't believe me.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I feel like he elevated to A status.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Killian Murphy said it himself.
It's pivotal to the plot.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It's the only reason I wanted to watch it.
So, yeah, I gave it a hard 7.
There were so many moments likethe sentry fight, the tease of
the fight, I guess, themaintenance of the void.
Obviously they couldn't defeatthe void, so they had to get
into his head and be like I getby with a little help from my
friends.
I get by with a little helpfrom my friends, like the
Beatles.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I thought it was cool that Bucky was able to kind of
beat them all.
Yeah, you know, he was able tocapture the whole Thunderbolt.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, but the Sentry.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But he, you know he's able to capture all the other
ones.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
He did exactly what Bucky actually ended up doing,
so remember whenever heoriginally started.
He's like tie yourselves up.
And and then when you see itthe next time, they're all tied
up.
And I was like man that washilarious, but no, what I did
enjoy about this film was thefact that it did have more
family themed around it.
You know what I'm saying, likethe family friend concept.
We've seen a bunch of Avengerfilms and they're all good
friends, but I haven't seen theteam building camaraderie like
(33:59):
the way I did in this film,where everybody's overcoming
trauma together and even whenthe Scarlet Witch hit everybody
with their own traumatic shit,nobody worked through it
together Like they all were likeoh God, it was awful.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I saw visions.
They all split up and they'retrying to fix it on their own,
but nobody.
Thor goes on a fucking visionquest.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, he's like fuck this, Screw you guys, I'm going
home, yeah he goes on a visionquest and that's it, like Thor
or Hulk, you know, has his ownpanic attack and does his own
thing, but anyway.
So yeah, like I said, this wasa real family aspect of the film
and I enjoyed it.
It was good in that, so that'swhy I'm going to give it.
I'm not going to shit on it.
It's not a bad movie but a hardseven because, like I said, it
(34:36):
could have been.
I could have waited tillNetflix to watch it or Disney+.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I'm not going to shit on this movie anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Anymore but.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Family.
I also give it a hard seven.
I'm in line, we're all in linein this one Hard seven.
Wait for it on Disney Plus ifyou haven't watched it or you
know, go watch it if you gotlike one of those unlimited.
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Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yes, sir, I love that .
Tiki, do you have any takes onthe movie?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
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That is the cricket set thefirst guests that were announced
way back when they kicked offwith.
One of the first guests wasmaker, extraordinaire science
(02:08):
communicator and industry legend, adam Savage.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Oh, Adam Savage.
Hey, he's got good work.
What is some of the stuff thathe does?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
man, yeah man.
I think he worked in Star Wars.
Oh dope, really, he makes stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
He's the guy from that show about the Mythbusters.
No way, really, that's him, ishe?
Yeah, I'm fairly sure that'shim, and him and his brother
used to do stunts and shit Likeyo.
Is this true?
And I think one they did was ablowing from the cops, you know,
when the breathalyzer, themachine, the myths and stuff.
They beat it but they didn'tshow you, they just know they
(02:42):
can't do it.
It's possible.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh, he was in Mythbusters.
Yeah, the goat, the goat.
Yeah, see.
And he did work in Star Wars,episode I, so he made stuff for
Star Wars.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Episode I oh, that's pretty dope.
Okay, okay, okay, butMythbusters though, bro.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
That's impressive in my opinion.
That was a big show for us backin the day.
I'm surprised you didn't.
You were at Midwesters then.
I liked it.
It was some cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Among some of the other stars was New York Times
best selling author of A HeadFull of Ghosts and the Cabin at
the End of the World.
And the Cabin at the End of theWorld Along with Dune and Long
Life star Alicia Witt.
She was in the original Dune.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Don't get me the original dude.
She was in the original dude,okay, okay, don't get him
confused, don't get him confusedwith me the original dude is
still pretty cool, damn.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
My name is Paul Artuk Andradez.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Duke of Arrakis.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Another guest coming up is Patton Oswalt.
He voiced Ratatouille.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
He voiced Ratatouille .
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He voiced Ratatouille .
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
That's right, that's dope.
Look at this.
He's a great comedian.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
He's in a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He was in Agents of SHIELD, his wife wrote this
extraordinary novel about aserial killer in California I
think it was called the GoldenState Killer and she did this
novel based on him and shedocumented everything.
And then a few months later,unfortunately, she passed away,
I believe of cancer.
And then a few months laterthey captured the guy.
(04:14):
Really, yeah, man, theycaptured the guy Great story.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He seemed like such a cool guy, a cool nerd.
He was in Parks and Rec and hewas doing an episode where he
does a filibuster and he goesinto what the next Star Wars
movie could be and he basicallydescribes the beginning of the
Boba Fett series.
Sam, you see a hand come up Waybefore the Boba Fett show came
out what I remember that fromParks and Rec.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Dude.
They probably were like, bro,we're going to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
They probably just fired it Somebody was faded as
fuck when they watched that Sam?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
They probably were like, bro, we're going to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
They probably just fired it Somebody was faded as
fuck when they watched that Sadtattooing Hand shoots up and
more author another authorthat's coming up.
Writer.
Sunday Times bestselling.
Author of the Drowning EmpireTrilogy and the Gods Below,
andreas Stewart.
Oh yes, I've read it Moving on,Don't get me so lied to we got
some good ones for you this week, In case you missed it Sosie
Bacon, who's best known for herleading role in the horror
(05:05):
sensation Smile.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, I haven't watched Smile.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
There's a few stars for horror fans, yeah there's a
few horror fans out there, foranime fans.
They are going to have SeanShamo.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Sean Shamala Goku himself.
Who also played Goku's black,who also plays Ikori, who also
plays a different goku bus, asad goku.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
He's played many roles but uh speaking of last
week, actors that could playmultiple characters in the same
universe yes, sean shemo michael, michael b jordan and sean
shemo.
Yes, and we also havesuperstars lisa mary baron, aka
victoria, and tory wilson fromthe wwe home fame and with
charles wright, also known asthe godfather, yes, so they got
(05:49):
some, uh, some good big namessuperstars I love you after that
they announced a big one, whichwas hayden christensen the king
himself never heard ofchristian, so demand him if the
legend we're really excitedabout that.
Well, we talked about a lotabout it last week.
Uh coming good fans, they havesome uh comic book uh creators
(06:11):
founding partner of emash comicsand top cow, mark silvestri and
joe esma, creator of morningglories and much more guys, so
make sure you tune in, we're atoh, we got a couple more.
We do have a couple more.
I'm sorry, we're doing the fullrundown.
We're doing the full rundown.
He said we're at.
Oh, we got a couple more.
We do have a couple more.
I'm sorry, we're doing the fullrundown.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
We're doing the full rundown he said we're doing the
full rundown, damn it, we'redoing the whole thing.
We're doing the whole thing.
You don't leave with thecredits.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, okay, uh.
And then has anybody heard of aseries called resident alien?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
oh, I haven't, but I know that there are five stars
that are coming from that showyes, uh, alan Tudyk.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I think he plays the alien.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Not one, but two.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But Alan Tudyk is cool because he voices like a
bunch of characters, like hevoice a droid in Star Wars, in
Rogue One.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, beep, beep, no, no, no, it's yeah the Empire
droid, the badass one.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, the black guy.
Oh, he played the pirate inDodgeball, he does.
He played the pirate in.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Dodgeball, and in the DC universe he voices like
Clayface.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He's like Pirate Pete or something like that.
You're not a real pirate, AlexWaterman Sarah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Tomko and Corey Reynolds, also all from Racing
Alien, and we got some cosplayguests and more guests like
coming with guests ChristopherRocho and Carl Horn, plus more,
more announcements.
You need to see James Cheek,keith Silverstone, spike Spencer
they could be heard inEvangelion, pokemon, bleach,
(07:33):
bunga, stray Dogs Just moreanime voice acting and then
adding to the Star Wars lineup.
They also have Tamera Morrisonthat we already talked about
Plays Jango Fett and Boba Fett.
And I'm sure there are going tobe more announcements coming up
and much more yeah much more.
So stay tuned in the followingweeks for more.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm going to show you how I do that, and so much more
.
Ladies and gentlemen, tune infor the following weeks, and
we're going to have so much morefor you guys, alright.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
More than jumping, bro.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, no, no I just wanted to see how y'all were
going to fall flat when at.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
At the George R Brown convention, when June 20th to
the 22nd, that's right.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
So make sure you get your tickets.
Be there early, get your VIPaccess, bring cash.
There's going to be a lot ofthings for you to be buying,
especially in this recession.
Speaking of the recession, yeah, segue into, segue into a
Talking about Avengers in thebudget.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Something in the way that was a yeah Avengers on a
budget, on a diet keto budget,is exactly what we got Facts,
man.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, budget, avengers, sure, budget.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Avengers.
It wasn't bad, but it was morelike this could have been like
an eight-part episode series onDisney+, you know what I thought
.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So If this wasn't Disney+, there could have been a
couple episodes where weexpanded on the story a little
more and maybe I would have beenmore invested.
I was like man watching themovies.
I was like I could have waiteduntil this got to Disney+.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, Now it's not bad.
Yeah, we're giving our honestopinion right out the gate.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So, yeah, yeah, we came out swinging.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It was wildly mediocre.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Uh, I don't think it was mediocre.
I think it was like I couldhave waited for disney plus, but
it's not bad, it's not bad, Ijust wouldn't for me.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm like, if it's if, if I'm waiting for it on
netflix, bro, then it wasn'tgood, you know it wasn't great
okay, that's a good measure,like okay I see if I could have
waited for it on netflix or youknow whatever.
Yeah yeah, that's, that's my, myargument.
Like you had to be there towatch infinity war in theaters,
endgame in theaters, spider-manin theaters like those are
moments you're like, yeah, itwas in their mind, but um so so
(09:39):
have we been spoiled becauseit's been so good that, like,
the standards are so fuckinghigh.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, people were saying that this is kind of
hopeful because it's kind oflike Marvel getting back to form
, Because it does set up like anew, like hey, we're kind of
getting back to character focusand good stories.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, that was their thing.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
They tried to say this is quality over quantity.
Yeah, this is us getting backto proper form.
So that's where I'm at.
Like, well, it wasn't that badof a movie.
It is an improvement on whatthey've been releasing.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, it's not terrible, but I mean, like, when
I saw things like Black Widowwas like I want to say right
underneath this as far as themovie goes, and I'm like I I
think this is much better thanblack widow.
Yeah, you know, I'm sorry.
Like how about this?
I enjoyed this version of blackwidow more than I did, uh,
scarlett johansson so far reallywell, yelena, yeah, florence
(10:34):
pugh's character, I mean likeshe's just hotter
no, but she's just a likablecharacter on screen, yeah but
again I'm like but why did theyrob scarlett johansson then, bro
?
Why didn't she get a chance tolike, and you know what she did,
have moments on screen whereshe got to grow, but nobody
cared, no, nobody cared.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We all missed her from iron man 2.
You know we all miss her fromthere like damn that version of
her was banger.
Yeah, that was the best oneever.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, and then they were like yeah, let's not make
her too sexy though.
Oh man see that's the shit.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And then they were like, yeah, let's not make her
too sexy though.
Ah, man see, that's the shit.
And then we know FlorencePuglin, and that's the thing.
It's like, maybe because ofspoilers, because you see
someone like, damn, scarlett isso fine and beautiful.
And Florence Puglin's like,yeah, you know, she's hot.
She's hot too, I guess no, no,because at the same time.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
She's got that je, it's the face bro, something
that it is in the face.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I'm so spoiled.
It's like I just ate adelicious sundae fudge with
strawberry bananas and all I canthis is an apple.
The apple's great, it's healthyfor you, it's delicious, but I
just ate a banana fudgestrawberry, with all the
knickknacks on it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, but look Now the banana fudge.
They were like, nah, I don'twant to do it no more, it's too
expensive, because it's a lot ofstuff Banana fudge, the
chocolate.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I get it, I get it, I get it or you can just pick
this apple up off the tree.
Apple and tajin and I'm, like Iactually do like apple and
tajin.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But, I just finished the banana actually say oh, I'm
the next black widow, or hercode name is black widow no,
does yelena?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
is there a yelena in the marvel comics?
Yes, is she black widow or shelike her own, uh own superpower
I think she does think of hername.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, it's because black widow is like an
organization yeah, black widow,black Widow, it's the Red Room
organization or whatever.
Hey, what did you like aboutthe movie in the beginning?
Damn, that's a hard one.
It's not bad, though I mean I'mnot going to say it's terrible.
Wait, wait wait, wait, shit,hang on Shit.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
What's your name?
Super hot to this day you askedTico.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You answered for Tico .
You were Answered for him.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I was gonna give a shout out To Homegirl from
Seinfeld, who plays the villain.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Oh, or I don't know what her name is.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
You look beautiful as the day.
I saw you From the 90s,homegirl from Seinfeld yeah,
still hot the one that's likePulling all the strings In the
back.
I bring her up.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Because she was been like kind of like working since
yeah, in the background sincethen, yeah, yeah so she's kind
of been introduced and kind oflike but again so much
eventually she's gonna becomelike a big character.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't know if she's become that big character yet,
but you had to watch all the youhad to watch a lot of tv series
and movies in order to keep upwith this one, bro, oh yeah, I
mean you had to watch the BlackWidow movie to know Yelena's
backstory.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
It would have helped to also watch Hawkeye to know
her struggle, and then Falconand the Winter Soldier, or
Captain America and the WinterSoldier, right.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And then Ant-Man and the Wasp 2.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
There's a ghost, oh for ghosts, because where, where
those ghosts even come fromrandom at man too, and yeah,
it's a man too.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
She's a big bad from me.
And then that's when you getblack widow just for taskmaster
for the five minutes which I'mso sad it took, bro I feel bad
when she has to go to pressrelease tours and like they're
like.
So what did you think aboutworking in the film?
Oh, so amazing, it was great itflew by for me I mean
Speaker 2 (13:57):
the cast is so wonderful.
The sit looks so much betterthis time around.
Oh man, they made her so muchmore comic book accurate and I
liked it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I was excited for her character.
Bro me too, even the fact thatshe had, like, the mask opened
up.
I'm not here for you.
Oh, okay, okay, I fucks with it, pop that's it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
At the same time, everybody was like, oh, they
fucked up that character so bad.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I think that's the one backlash that they got about
a lot of people it's like, wow,what a way to throw away a
comic book a great character.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, like they finally got him right, but they
fucked it up in the first moviethat she was in yeah.
I mean, it's not so much thatit was gender swapped, it was
just the fact that they fuckedup the character that doesn't
even bother me the gender swapright now.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Marvel, there was awesome action scenes where they
stay, they fight, uh, multiplehenchmen with guns.
Like you could have had like amimic scene where, like captain
america is fighting the henchmenand exact same movement, set is
taskmaster doing the exact samedance and taking also henchmen
and like yeah, and then she likeeverybody has a fight, but you
(14:58):
see, like testament, just copyeverybody's fight, like within
that seat, like I'm justpainting it.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
What it would look like if they kept her like was
that pop was just unnecessary,to be honest I saw on socials
there was a version of thescript who knows how true it is,
I think where she stayed aliveand she has.
She has memory problems becauseof black widow, I think.
She has memory problems.
Throughout the movie she keepstrying to kill john walker
because that was her assignment.
Yeah, so they kept likereminding her.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's like no, we're working together yeah, and like
the midst of it they're like itcan be like a big-ass gunfight
going on.
I know whether she's just gonnabe like looks over at this,
motherfucking, just starts goingfor him again he's like fuck,
not again.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I thought it would have been good for you that
would have been hilarious.
Another thing one thing that Idid like about the movie early
on and throughout was the humor.
I mean it was funny okay, yeah,okay the humor wasn't cheesy,
okay, yes yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I don't remember like a cringe, like thor y'all
pointed out, thor, there weresome thorn boys like oh, kind of
cringy comic-y yeah, not thehumor work not this one, not, I
don't remember me really like uhcringy it worked with the uh
the sneeze scene in the hallway.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That was hilarious banter between the characters.
Everybody like giving JohnWalker shit.
Like Yelena and Ghost givingJohn Walker shit.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh, in the back of that car.
Yeah, bro, that was hilarious.
Do you like the cool Do?
You think it's cool.
Do you think it's cool?
I?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
mean, yeah, I think it's kind of cool yeah, if you
think it's cool.
It's cool, I guess, relatableas fuck.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That's fucked.
I was like that's fucked up.
Yeah, exactly, I was like Justtell them you don't like the hat
.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
There was a lot of guys in there that fucking, that
smacked their lips, bro, whenthey saw that shit.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
They were talking about the gun.
It's like, yeah, that's such abig gun.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean, and it's kind of big.
Bro, it's relatable as shit.
Like that was funny.
That was really, really funny.
What I liked is that they gaveyou Bob within the first 20
minutes of the film, 20, 30minutes of the film.
You get Bob when they get therethe Sentry.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think that plot twist was kind of like you know,
you knew it was like oh well,that's Bob, that's the Sentry.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I think there were a lot of people who were
just completely oblivious, likeyou.
The hell is this guy.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, I guess that's true, you know so in that aspect
, yeah, because we go into thiscomic book with some comic book
knowledge.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Absolutely.
But if you have no idea, likeI've had people be like like.
Here's an example when Buckyand Captain the Winter Soldier,
when he took off his mask and itwas Bucky I legit heard people
go in theaters, I was like yo,yo in theaters right now and I
(17:23):
was like well, I guess to somepeople who don't know.
You know you give them thecredit but or the benefit of the
doubt.
But it makes me laugh but uh,yeah, but like I said, I like
bob's introduction.
Bob was one of my favorite.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Him and alexi were my favorite characters in the
entire film, bro oh yeah, thered guardian because, like in
the movie, they're bringing like, like the sentry's part of the
sentry project, because it stillis from the captain america
project.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, the super soldier and like when I read
that I was like, is it?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
and then, yes, in the marvel comics it is.
It's just marvel.
Marvel goes beyond.
We're like an entity frombeyond time and space
coincidentally fucking mergewith them and the cells help
them retain that god-likefeature that is the century.
But they caught, they cut a lotof that, you know, because they
do.
Marvel does it for the sake ofthe audience.
But that that makes sense.
Like how much in the marvelcomics and mcu do they?
(18:07):
They've revolved around thecaptain america serum, yeah,
like so many villains or heroeslike the captain americans here.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Captain americans here yeah, everybody wanted that
in the mcu.
Like every other villain islike oh, there's just another
version.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah it was just something that went wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I mean hope, yeah, absolutely but it makes sense,
like even in the marvel comedy,they'll say no, it was a captain
, the captain marvel's, thecaptain america's serum yeah, I
can't say that five times fastcan't america say I'm, can't
mention I'm not gonna, if youwere waiting for it I was, uh,
(18:42):
revolves around it a lot and Iloved it.
I actually do love it.
So you know, I take that back.
Uh, in regards to them usinglike whoa, how did the century
come about?
Just like the comics, thecaptain american serum, yeah bro
yeah, it's just another.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Try out the super soul here.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, but I like this concept of like, uh, a
recovering addict with some deep, dark mental issues which is
the theme of the movie right,Loneliness, trauma and they do
explain it, because he was nevermeant to be decent.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
They were just prototypes.
They were supposed to bethrowaway experiments.
He just happened to survive.
He just happened to survive.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
She was like, okay let's work with one guy.
Yeah, I got something.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But yeah, the theme of mental health and Trauma.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
They touched some dark topics in this film.
I will say that they did a goodjob of doing it.
It also worked.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
It also worked really well what's her name?
Yelena Yelena.
Yelena's story herself issomething very traumatic about
what the Scarlet Widow projectwas.
In Russia they had them huntdown their own friends at a
childlike age, which is crazy,like when that dream sequel that
remembering sequence of her uhturning in her friend to the
(19:47):
woods and they get shot.
Yeah, apparently it was theother way around too if she
didn't done it, she was next.
You know, that's what it is shegot called the woods I think it
was training to are you, areyou like?
I don't know if it's kind of sofucked up kind of training about
betrayal, but definitely it'slike it teaches you how to like.
I guess they're taught not toget attached yeah, these aren't
your friends.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
This is your target, no target out here.
Yeah, absolutely yeah, it's.
It's all training basedwhenever it came to that shit.
That's just she said, I'm sorryyou know, like it's ain't
personal, it's just business,you know yeah I mean, I think,
the mental health aspect of themovie, even towards the end.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
it's such a big part of the climate Her dealing with
alcoholism, bro, her alcoholism,remember.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
She was fucking passed out on the floor.
Bob was seen with his parentsabused downstairs.
What else John Walker's?
Losing his family?
His dealing with his cripplingself-image and his ego was
deflating.
He lost his fucking kids.
I'm trying to figure out.
Was there anybody else whowitnessed her own father's
murder?
But she was a cold-bloodedmotherfucker because as soon as
(20:42):
she saw that she was likealright, I'm gonna be right back
.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
But she was the only one who I was gonna take a quick
break.
Yeah, she wasn't shook likethat.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
No she was shook.
It just really fucked with her.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
At least out of everybody, though.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
There's three scenes, like there was a scene where
they say like we swallow it, weswallow it up, bottle it and we
leave it here right, yeah, solike you push it down, you push
it down, you push it down, she'san alcoholic, like you see
scenes where she's throwing thebathtub drunk out of her mind.
Yeah, so you know what I'mtalking about?
One of my favorite characterswhich is, uh, what's his name?
The red captain america.
Uh, red guardian.
The red guardian, like, if younotice his character, his
(21:14):
character is a happy-go-lucky,you know, everything's gonna be
fine.
You know, push through.
You know, like, hey, I'm gonnafight captain america one day,
which I hope they do it, youknow, eventually.
But if you notice, like, ifwe're talking about trauma, then
he is no different.
It's just other people's way ofhow they act on it.
You know, like, he reminds youa lot of, like my parents are,
you know, immigrants.
So, like a lot of the immigrantpeople handle it that way.
(21:36):
It was like, no, you know, backhome is worse.
You talking about, you knowthey're starving over there.
I'm in America, I got Netflix,you know what do I care?
You know, but it shows that atthe end of the day, he's
probably an alcoholic.
We don't know, always working,he never sleeps, you know.
So he doesn't want to go tobecause he doesn't want to face
it, because if he sleeps, heknows what.
(21:57):
He went through russia russiayeah, it's siberia.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You gotta do the accent I couldn't do it all of
it and he's telling you I neversleep.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
The only ones that probably got us probably bucky,
but bucky himself is like tryingto do his wrongs for running
for senator.
He feels like he's gotta.
He's gotta change the worldbecause he was getting electric
brain shots bro like he wasstill getting his own, yeah yeah
, like they all have a sense oftrauma.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You know, yeah, and we don't need to see much of
Bucky's character developmentbecause we have already seen it.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, we have seen a lot of his character development
.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, we have seen his character development
already, so I think that's whyhe played a little bit of a
background role in the movie.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, but Yelena wasn't a bad character.
Again, I didn't see that coming.
I didn't know that.
Florence, you know her nameisn't Florence Pugh, it's Pugh
yeah, pugh yeah.
But I didn't think FlorencePugh was going to be the main
character Florence Pugh.
And the fact that she was,though, and she did a good job
at it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, I think it worked.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I mean, that's the best cure for depression and
mental health.
5'4" blonde telling you thatyou're not alone, Bruh, Not even
5'4".
She's like 4'9" yeah man, butthat would solve my mental
health problem Absolutely.
Okay, real quick.
We haven't talked about Bob.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
We haven't talked about Bob enough in the sense of
comic book, accurate, likedesign, fight, all of it he got
the suit and whenever he gotcontrol of his powers, it worked
Like that scene at the top ofAvengers Tower.
Yeah, the new Avengers Tower,Remodel Avengers Tower.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, that scene when the whole team takes him on, it
was the best action in the film.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I wish we would have got 20, 30 minutes of that
instead of 10 minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, but we really got to tease on what his
capabilities as a sentry are,man.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Like stop time but stop bullet projectiles,
something that you said I'mgoing to be like his black widow
to the Hulk you know what I'msaying she's going to be like
something real low.
She's going to be that and itonly makes sense because she was
the most the calm to the mostpowerful being, it's only going
to make sense that the next mostpowerful being is going to be
her sister to calm him down aswell.
Now, what I think is that shapeor form to the very last movie
(23:58):
until he's gonna be theMacGuffin, the fucking MacGuffin
, the get out of jail free card.
Whenever you painted yourselfinto the corner, they're gonna
pull him out and then he's gonnafly in, and because he's so OP,
yeah, or also I don't thinkthey're gonna use him again.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I think it's gonna be like he lost his powers he has
no access to that.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
No, I the second one Endgame.
Was it the second one Endgame?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Where the ship was like about to start, you know,
and then suddenly-.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And then, fucking Captain Marvel, cut the ship in
half.
You know, and you know what?
Would you be mad if fucking-.
It makes sense.
Dr Doom has the InfinityGauntlet.
He's about to one-shot fuckingCaptain America in the face,
ding.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Holds it, breaks it.
They Look he's like You're nogod.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Bro, that'd be a bar, that'd be a bar.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I can see that.
Like he punches with thegauntlet, they collapse.
He's powerless now, but we heldthe punch.
Yeah, and then Doctor Doom islike Now equal to everybody.
Now the fight begins.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
See, look, that's it.
That's the shit that's gonnahappen.
What I know that's for part two, secret Wars, bro, dude and.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Secret Wars, bro dude , and I can see Miles Morales.
Maybe they're purposely pushinghim back because maybe the
secret ending of Doom War I'mgoing to get ahead of myself is
probably Miles Morales in liveaction.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Bro, what All right?
No, I will say the secretending was dope.
It leads into Fantastic Four.
But now we already know theending of Fantastic Four.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, supposedly it was directed by the Russo
brothers.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It was, which I think is amazing, the secret ending.
Yeah, the last three-minuteending.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
They're already working on the Avengers movie.
Yeah, so the secret ending whenthey see the Fantastic Four
ship coming through space wasdirected by the Rooster Brothers
.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, and I like that chemistry.
The way that they were alreadyacting at the end was different
in comparison to where they wereat in the movie.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's because they had those directors behind them.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And it's going to be good.
Their chemistry bro is going towork, so fucking well.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
It's going to work so good.
And I think that whole idea ofanother Civil War, new Avengers
versus Avengers, that's going tobe cool, that's going to be
awesome Again, even the namechange the New Avengers,
Marvel's reveal when they sweptthat off all the poster boards.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
In other words, if you haven't seen this movie yet,
fuck you.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Rick Arden came in with the New Avengers, with the
Z.
With the Z yeah, the tracksuitwith all the sponsors, sweeties,
the best side.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
New Avengers with the Z, there's no trademark.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, I sound French, I can't do it.
Yeah, I can there for it.
But again, it already spoilsthe ending of what the Fantastic
Four film is going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I think the Fantastic Four movie spoils itself
Because we know that they'regoing to come to the main
universe.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It makes you think of Captain America.
Captain America, remember whenthe first one came out?
It takes place in World War I,World War II era you know he's
going to be frozen, yeah, andthe question is, how does he
make it over here?
Oh well, he gets frozen, sameshit.
It's just like I wonder howthey're gonna make it.
Oh, just fucking jump reality.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
He's like oh they've already done that multi-verse
traveling.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
We've seen that already at this point, because
it's been introduced so manytimes and like from Doctor
Strange, it's only a nominee inanother universe.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
There's nothing that can stop Galactus.
He's like the doomsday it'sover.
If you look in the trailer so Ican imagine they come to our
reality, because the only thingthat could have stopped it, that
they don't have in theirreality, is the Sentry.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
As an example.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And the Sentry in theory could have stopped
Galactus.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, and then he is a cosmic level being at that
point.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So we'll see.
We'll see when the FantasticFour movie comes out.
Yeah, I know I'm more excitedabout Fantastic Four.
I was more excited aboutFantastic Four than Thunderbolts
, bro, but I still sawThunderbolts opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I'm excited for fucking the Doomsday bro.
They already started filming.
You already seen Shang-Chi's onset?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Mbaku's on set.
Oh, channing Tatum is on set.
Channing Tatum's on set, is heplaying?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Gambit he has to.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Right, yeah, it's a picture.
Marvel put it out, bro, theydid it.
Marvel put it out.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
They were all together.
They already said they watchedthe screening of Thunderbolts
together and it's the wholesquad.
Rdj is there.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Paul Rudd is there, bro, they come in here.
Hot, I think this day is gonnawork.
It's gonna be, and I thinkthat's what this is.
This is like marvel saying hey,we're getting back to form,
we're gonna try to fix this shittogether.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
They can reset everything here, whatever they
fucked up is like secret war isbasically where they can reset
you know which is the next bigfilm that they're gonna do after
that.
This is crazy.
Yeah, bro, like they can dowhatever.
Doomsday is gonna be like theirnext big avengers film, yes,
but as far as like a resetsecret wars, that's where they
can reset anything that theywanted to like, because I've
been missing the shangri-pa.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What was that series called?
Wasn't the series called?
It was so the secret wars 2,which happens in modern day,
because I'm like the way thatthat series just like was such a
throwaway plot line well, theoriginal concept was heroes and
villains are put on a planettogether.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
They give the hero, the villains, a year in advance
to to do whatever they want withtheir civilization, with their
area and their time, anddifferent villains do different
things.
So it's like doc ock does onething, dr doom does another
thing and then another villaindoes another thing.
Each one of them rulesdifferently.
One's like with an iron fist.
One of them doesn't have likefucking any control at all.
One, he, just wants to be aregular nigga and one, uh is a
(29:02):
tyrant or some shit like that.
But ultimately it's to see whatreally will win good versus
evil, and that's when you havethose impossible things that
happen.
Spider-man gets a new suit.
He gets the black, uh venomsuit, without realizing that
it's venom.
Yet uh, the hulk yes, you getthat iconic uh one where he's
holding that mountain.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
They're gonna do it doomsday, going to do in
Doomsday?
Yeah, you think they're goingto bring Black Suit Spider-Man?
Oh, that's if they were goingto do it, but in Doomsday
Because obviously Tom Hollandwill be mentioned.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's going to be the Battleworld plotline.
That's what I'm saying.
If they do it, it's supposed totake place in Battleworld.
If they do it, that's the onetime Deadpool and you know,
whoever?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
That'd be tough to bring Deadpool though.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Deadpool's going to be the hardest, bro.
Ryan Reynolds is expensive man.
Marvel owns him, bro.
At this point his career isjust hanging on by a thread
because of the whole BlakeLively shit at this point as far
as working.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's crazy man.
He was to the top of the world.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I think they could probably offer him less money
now.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Absolutely, he's going to have to take, but at
the end of the day, dog, haveyou even seen those likes on
social media?
Their likes aren't even whatthey were, bro.
The views aren't even what theywere, bro.
He was getting like a millionlikes per post after Deadpool 3,
dog, now 250,000 likes he lostsome name recognition yeah bro
that really hurt him.
Yeah, it really hurt him, andall because of his wife.
Not even him, bro.
Not even him.
That's what I'm saying.
(30:14):
He should have Anyway.
Yeah, man, we feel it that'sall.
If y'all want to hear moreabout that shit.
Let us know, We'll tell youguys all about it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
One take on the Entenables movie that I had was
this whole marketing thing.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
They changed the name .
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, the asterisk was meant to be like.
Hey, this is not the real name.
The real name is the NewAvengers.
The New Avengers.
That's the real name of themovie.
I think it's a cool marketingscheme, but at the same time
it's a marketing ploy that cameup with the idea.
It's like we don't reallybelieve in this movie, so let's
try to come up with somemarketing ploy to try to really
push it.
(30:50):
Not only that, because theyspoiled it, it came out Thursday
.
By Sunday they had alreadystarted doing that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Changed the name of the posters.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, so it was like.
This is kind of like spoilery.
You didn't expect that manypeople to watch the movie, so
you came in with a marketingploy to push the movie after the
fact.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I'll be honest, I think they would have held off
on it if it broke $100 milliondomestically, but I think it
only broke like $78 million andthey're like all right, go ahead
get the reveal Rip that bandaid.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Because they, you know so I don't know, I think
that's, I think that's fine.
That's my take on that's not anoutrageous statement and the
movie ended up making 78, whichis above projections.
Yeah, it's like more than theythought it was gonna make,
correct?
But which one was the onebefore this?
Uh, snow white captain america.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, how much did that one make?
Uh, not enough.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'm joking, I have no idea, unfortunately, well, they
expected it not to perform asgood as that one.
Yeah, and it did.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It did, but, granted, it took a whole squad and you
know that one took Harrison Ford.
So I mean, it's the same thing.
You put all the talent together.
I'm joking In conclusion.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
In conclusion, conclusion.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Conclusion what do you guys, hard seven, solid
seven, wait for it on disneyplus?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I'm in the same place , I'm in the same boat, exactly.
I got a hard seven thesequences that the movie is like
you can tell, especially whenbucky showed up that one scene
he shows us with the uh, withthe canon.
Yeah, he saves everybody.
There's literally episode fourof this eight part series you
know I would have watched it,yeah it's like you can tell this
this thing was built, that hair, uh, if it didn't work out, we
(32:26):
can release it in series.
You know, true, but right then,and there?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
That's how the episode ended was.
Oh, and then the trailer hitsPretty much what.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I've done.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
The.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Starcast is great, but they're like A-level
celebrities, because there'sA-plus level celebrities and
then there's A.
You know it's mixed in there.
There's a known celebrity,florence Pugh is A right now,
because there's A plus level.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So then there's A.
You know it's mixed in there.
You know Florence Pugh is Aright now because she's
everywhere, so is the RedGuardian.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I give her Red Guardian.
I definitely went back andwatched Oppenheimer over again
absolutely, because her scene ofthe pot pivotal.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You know what I'm saying pivotal it made sense,
don't believe me.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I feel like he elevated to A status.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Killian Murphy said it himself.
It's pivotal to the plot.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It's the only reason I wanted to watch it.
So, yeah, I gave it a hard 7.
There were so many moments likethe sentry fight, the tease of
the fight, I guess, themaintenance of the void.
Obviously they couldn't defeatthe void, so they had to get
into his head and be like I getby with a little help from my
friends.
I get by with a little helpfrom my friends, like the
Beatles.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I thought it was cool that Bucky was able to kind of
beat them all.
Yeah, you know, he was able tocapture the whole Thunderbolt.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, but the Sentry.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
But he, you know he's able to capture all the other
ones.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
He did exactly what Bucky actually ended up doing,
so remember whenever heoriginally started.
He's like tie yourselves up.
And and then when you see itthe next time, they're all tied
up.
And I was like man that washilarious, but no, what I did
enjoy about this film was thefact that it did have more
family themed around it.
You know what I'm saying, likethe family friend concept.
We've seen a bunch of Avengerfilms and they're all good
friends, but I haven't seen theteam building camaraderie like
(33:59):
the way I did in this film,where everybody's overcoming
trauma together and even whenthe Scarlet Witch hit everybody
with their own traumatic shit,nobody worked through it
together Like they all were likeoh God, it was awful.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I saw visions.
They all split up and they'retrying to fix it on their own,
but nobody.
Thor goes on a fucking visionquest.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, he's like fuck this, Screw you guys, I'm going
home, yeah he goes on a visionquest and that's it, like Thor
or Hulk, you know, has his ownpanic attack and does his own
thing, but anyway.
So yeah, like I said, this wasa real family aspect of the film
and I enjoyed it.
It was good in that, so that'swhy I'm going to give it.
I'm not going to shit on it.
It's not a bad movie but a hardseven because, like I said, it
(34:36):
could have been.
I could have waited tillNetflix to watch it or Disney+.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
I'm not going to shit on this movie anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Anymore but.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Family.
I also give it a hard seven.
I'm in line, we're all in linein this one Hard seven.
Wait for it on Disney Plus ifyou haven't watched it or you
know, go watch it if you gotlike one of those unlimited.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
If you got the movie passes, If you got Regals ladies
and gentlemen, if you got aRegal unlimited, After two
visits.
You have to use code WBM6969 toget that error code now.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yes, sir, I love that .
Tiki, do you have any takes onthe movie?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Oh shit, damn, there goes our time.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank youso much for tuning in.
This has been the WBM Podcast.
This is one of your hosts.
It's your boy, merc.
Make sure you guys arefollowing us on all of our
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Speaker 2 (35:39):
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Speaker 3 (35:40):
In the mix.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
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Big shout out to Luca .
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Guys, we appreciate you andwe'll catch you on the next one.
Peace, yeah, baby.
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