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November 6, 2024 21 mins

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What happens when the political tides take an unexpected turn? Kamala Harris stepping into the spotlight as the Democratic nominee has certainly stirred the political pot, and we're here to unpack this surprise with you. I'm Michael Gillespie, your host for the WDYM podcast, and alongside a journey through the tangled world of American politics, we’ll scrutinize the nuances of this decision and its implications. With Donald Trump's campaign shrouded in controversy and bizarre incidents like alleged assassination attempts, the political landscape is anything but predictable. 

Transitioning to a more personal note, I recount my experience volunteering at a local Ohio election. Through this lens, we ponder electoral integrity amidst swirling claims of stolen votes. We also grapple with the moral quandaries shaping America, especially in light of pivotal moments like the January 6th Capitol riot and Roe v. Wade's reversal. Batting around the idea of a 'great' America, we reminisce about past decades while questioning Joe Biden's conspicuous absence and contemplating Kamala Harris’s potential as a leader. This episode promises a deep dive into the moral and strategic challenges facing our nation, all while tapping into the heart of what could redefine its path forward.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
you're listening to the wdym, the what do you mean?
Podcast, hamilton's number onepodcast.
Now sit back and relax.
Here's hamilton's own, michaelgillespie, and welcome to the
WDYM podcast.
I'm your host, michaelGillespie.

(00:25):
How you doing?
How are you guys doing?
Hope everything is good, hope,everything is well in your neck
of the woods.
So, just to get right into it, Ijust want to let you guys know
this recording, or this podcast,happened before the results of

(00:47):
the election, because that's thehot topic of america is who's
going to be president of theunited states heading for the
next four years.
It's, um, it's interesting, tosay the least, because, being
alive this long, you know thatthings have been super crazy
when it comes to politics andeverything.

(01:07):
And now that everybody has avoice via social media,
everybody has a voice.
So therefore, it's it's justabsolutely bonkers how everybody
has an opinion, everybodystates their opinion, everybody
can record their opinion andboom.
That's why we have crazypolitics as of now.
So today's episode is againprior to the election, the
results, um, what's been goingon?

(01:29):
My thoughts on it and someother things about it.
So, um, first off you, it was arematch of of the last
presidential vote.
It was, uh, initially sleepyjoe, joe biden, and the
republican nominee, donald trump.
And and before we even got toanything, you can see you can

(01:57):
see the rapid decline of uh, joebiden.
So it was initially set up tofail when you had old Joe up
there doing all that stuff.
So what the Democrats did isthat they just said, hey ho,
we're just going to switch tothe vice president, kamala

(02:20):
Harris.
And this is where the wholetrickery of politics goes on.
Who in the absolute heck didanybody nominate Kamala Harris
to be the Democratic nominee?
This is the problem withpolitics, because I sure as heck

(02:40):
didn't vote for her, not sayingthat I would not have voted for
her, okay, not saying I wouldnot have voted for her, okay,
not saying I would not havevoted for her, but just to say,
okay, she's the Democraticnominee and nobody gets to say
so about that.
That is absolutely wrong in mybook.
So she is the Democraticnominee because they basically

(03:03):
forced Joe out, which was whichis the right choice to say that
that dude was that he was waypast his prime.
The only reason why he probablygot in there is because of the
horrendous job that Donald Trumpdid his his when he did his
thing the first time.
So, as that happens, he she'snow campaigning across the world

(03:26):
with maybe Three months, three,four months, four or five
months to go and I question that.
You know, I question that as itwas.
That's something smart to doBasically.
You know, the whole Democraticthing was kind of crazy to begin
with.
So if you're going to takesomebody out, put somebody in,

(03:47):
they're not ready or they're notfamiliar with the people,
you're doing an uphill climb.
But I will say this she's goingagainst probably one of the
worst Republican nominees everinto Donald Trump.
So we will see what happenswith that.
Um, so, as the campaigncontinued, we had an assassin

(04:14):
attempt on donald trump.
Now, okay, so again, not thatthat's funny, it's not.
He gets shot in his ear andfrom the looks of it, it
connected, bled and miraculouslymiraculously healed because

(04:35):
there is no physical damage tothat ear.
I don't care what you say.
You look at all the pictures.
Not a chunk missing from hisear.
Now let me rewind the time to aboxing match happened in the
90s.
Well, mike Tyson bit offEvander Holyfield's ear.
You can Google the like beforeEvander Holyfield got his ear

(05:01):
churned off.
You can see what his ear lookedlike Then, before the the bite,
after the bite and now, andlast time I checked ears don't
heal.
I don't think they do, and youcan still see that Evander
Hothfield still has a chunkmissing from his ear.
My opinion is that something wasoff about that whole thing, but

(05:27):
nevertheless, we don't go outtrying to assassinate people.
So I think you know that reallygot people hyped up about the
idea of Donald Trump running forpresident, cause after that,
you know he's all with thepumping fists, screaming, fight,
fight, fight and you know Ithink that really riled up some

(05:52):
people and got people amped upabout his campaign to return to
office.
And when things like thathappen, you know an
assassination attempt it rilesup people right and, based on
what I've seen on x twitter,twitter, x twitter, x x twitter,
people were amped up about thatmoment.

(06:15):
When things happen like that,they had the right to be.
And then it happens again onhis um resort in mar-a-Lago.
It happened and again anotherattempt and thankfully it was a
failed attempt and you know hewas safe and everything and you

(06:35):
know that guy is in jaildeserved, rightfully so, and you
know that just gets gets hisbase energized.
So it comes to a point of whatcan, and you know that just gets
his base energized.
So it comes to a point of whatcan these candidates do for the
people right?
Basically and I'm going to keepit real with you guys Basically

(07:00):
I feel like we're being thrownKamala Harris and I don't hear a
solid plan from the Republicanside and it kind of worries me

(07:23):
that he, that he, doesn't have aplan for the people other than
what I have heard, which is, youknow the, you know tariffs for
imports and everything.
But I mean, if you know alittle bit about it, you know
that you know tariffs are justbasically back on us, but I'm
not here for that.
You know what I'm saying.
I just you know you guys gotare just basically back on us,
but I'm not here for that.
You know what I'm saying.

(07:44):
I just you know you guys gottado your own research as far as
who you want for president whenthat time happens.
So who do you got?
Who do you think is going towin?
Do you have the upstart fromthe democratic side, kamala har
and then you have Donald Trumpand me looking at it.

(08:06):
It's weird to say so.
I will get into that later inthe episode that's my prediction
who's going to win, and then wego forward from there.
But on the other side of things,I decided to do something this
campaign, this election thing.

(08:27):
I decided to do something tosee how things work and stuff.
So I volunteered to work.
The polls now wait, before youstart, not those polls, okay,
not those polls, actuallypolitical polls.
Uh, I decided to help my withmy local election and, you know,
actually see if you can, if youcan actually still campaign.

(08:51):
You know that was still still auh, presidential election,
because that was the claim forfour years ago was that you know
it was stolen.
And this whole time that was aclaim, it was stolen, stolen
election and all that stuff.
So I said, you know what, letme see if you can actually try
to steal an election.

(09:12):
You know how is that possible.
So I did the class and tomorrow,in fact, I get to do it.
I get to do it and see one howthe American people, or at least
the people in Ohio,specifically Hamilton, ohio, see
how they vote.
Now I don't get to actually seetheir votes, but you get the

(09:34):
general sense when someone comesin like, okay, that person's
probably voting for Trump, thatperson's probably voting for
Kamala Harris and all that stuff.
The thing about it is I'mworking all day tomorrow.
All day tomorrow, I'm gonna bethere from the butt crack of
morning to the butt crack ofnight.

(09:55):
I'm gonna be there working thepolls.
Don't know exactly what I'mdoing yet, but you know, to do
this experience, to get know thevibe of the people and
everything before before theactual votes come in, I think
it's going to be interesting, sowe'll see how that goes.
So, who do you got?

(10:16):
Who do you got who do you gotcoming into the white house for
the next four years?
I'm gonna give you my personalopinion on it and then, uh,
we're just gonna go from there.
With that being said, in myopinion, I don't see a way
donald trump gets in there.
Based on the past four years,the best for is he's not been in

(10:41):
the the White House, right?
Everything that has happened tohim since then, january 6th,
that's the biggest one.
For me, january 6th is probablythe biggest moment in my.
My opinion, that shouldeliminate him from being being
able to even run for presidentas a veteran.

(11:03):
That that, to me, is iscatastrophic to me.
Um, of course.
Um, he's been recorded as afelon, as a rapist, um, he's got
those three supreme court judgeseats to overturn Roe versus
Wade.

(11:23):
So all these things that arerights now, or things that are
injustice, that believe in highmorals, right, you don't overrun
your government and people say,well, he didn't tell people to
actually go do that.
Yeah, he didn't say it verbatim, but he hinted at it and you

(11:45):
know how his base is.
They run Remember they wereready to hang the vice president
just based on what he said, thefelony counts in New York case.
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, but that adds up Rapist
charges.
All those things, in my opinion, add up the overturn of roe v

(12:05):
wade.
To me, to me, this is again,this is my opinion.
Nobody should ever tell anotherperson what to do with their
body and that is something wildto me, that in 2024, that that's
a thing.
This is not the 1950s, this is2024, and we're telling that

(12:26):
woman who may need an abortionfor medical purposes, for other
purposes rape, incest, etc.
Etc.
You cannot have an abortion inamerica.
Ladies and gentlemen, we, wehave to look at ourselves in the
mirror as a whole.
And you know, and everybodyalways looks at the economy and

(12:46):
everything, and rightfully so.
But that stuff plays itself outin the long run because, you
know, somebody creates a debt,somebody recovers the debt.
That's that's the pattern thatwe have if you look at it.
You know, somebody creates adebt, might go to war, whatever,
whatnot Somebody recovers adebt.
It's up and down all the time.
Right, I focus on the morale ofthe country.

(13:11):
I would like to think that ifsomeone is a felon that needs to
be looked at, let me ask youthis, let me ask you this, let
me ask you this if a felon cameup to you and wanted to do a
service, and you know thatthey're a felon, would you let
them do that service?
Hey, man, I'm gonna cut yourmother yard.

(13:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Would you let and I'm a felon,let them know I'm a felon, I'm
gonna cut your yard would youstill let that person cut your
yard?
It's, it's a, it's a moralthing that I, I think is
undetermined or unquestioned, ornot even looked at anymore.
It's all about the economy andyou know, everybody has their

(13:56):
own rights to whatever they wantto view.
I just want morality to matter.
January 6th to me, as a veteran, like I stated before.
That, to me, is the biggestthing that I hold against Donald
Trump.
We don't do that.
We're supposed to be the worldambassador of how to do things

(14:19):
the right way and doing thingsmorally correct as much as
possible.
For a country to stage a coupat the government to a point
where people are smearing poopon the walls of our government
building that one hurts so bad,and to actually have that happen

(14:42):
on American soil, with fellowAmericans and people going to
jail and people getting shot andkilled just for doing their job
and these people are not at war.
These people are just doingtheir nine to five and are
getting maced by bear mace Ididn't even know they had mace
for bears.
But and actually watching,alone watching that show yeah,

(15:03):
they have bear mace.
I didn't even know they hadmace for bears and actually
watching alone watching thatshow yeah, they have bear mace.
People getting sprayed withmace, hit with fire hydrants,
people shot and killed.
That, our Americans is what'sbothersome to me and I hold that
against him.
Right.
I'm going to hold that againsthim because it was not right.
That is our fellow Americans.

(15:23):
That is was not right.
That is our fellow americans.
That is our blood.
That is our people, that is thepeople that us veterans go to
afghanistan to fight for, andwe're at home acting a monkey
because somebody says stage acoup.
Or hence at staging a coup.
Just remember that, as aveteran, as a person that has

(15:45):
fought wars for you, my people,my own people, are attacking
their people because ofpolitical reasons.
It's not right.
It's not right.
So does Kamala Harris stand achance morally?
Yes, she does, in my opinion.
Again, this is all my opinionand everything.
Does she stand a chance to winon a moral basis?

(16:06):
Yes, but that's it and that'sit.
I don't.
I still believe in America thatwe do the right things and we
intend to do the right things.
The people that you see everyday, the people in your
neighborhood, we tend to do theright things.
There's only a couple of usthat do the bad things to

(16:29):
advance ourselves or, you know,do that thing.
So, on a moral compass, I thinkshe can get that, but we're
still stuck in the 1950s and 60s, unfortunately, and we're in
2024.
What do I mean by that one?

(16:51):
She's a biracial woman.
Let that sit in for a second.
She's a biracial woman.
What chances does she reallyhave?
In my book.
This is just my opinion, guys.
Do you know how long it tookfor a brother to be president?

(17:16):
And now we're asking America toelect a biracial woman?
I tend to think that we areadvanced enough to accept that,
but I've seen too much to knowthat we're not.
But I've seen too much to knowthat we're not.
And plus to add to the fact thatshe is now being shoveled down

(17:37):
our throats as the nextdemocratic nominee, and I just
don't think that people know herwell enough.
People feel comfortable and allwe hear is what she did in
California.
And then people like the lumpthe fact that she's the vice
president.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, youknow the vice president is just
a backup plan.
I just want to let you knowthat.
You know they're just there,for if something happens to the

(17:59):
president, you are next in line.
And they're like and peoplelike to lump what president
biden does, did with her andlike dog is like, he's like yeah
, I'm just, that's what one ofthe commercials I would have had
like hey, you know, I'm thevice president, I got nothing to
do with that.
Yes, I am democratic andeverything, but yeah, I have my
different ideas and policies,but I'm just the vice president,

(18:23):
I'm the backup plan.
If something happens to thepresident, I jump in and
everything.
So yeah, I just don't think shehas enough firepower, star power
, political power to make thejump.
But I mean, last poll I seenfrom Iowa she had a three-point

(18:47):
lead, like if she could win Iowashe could win the presidency.
It's just it all depends onthose battleground states of
Arizona, wisconsin, michigan,pennsylvania, north Carolina and
Georgia.
And I think she could possiblywin Georgia.
If she wins Georgia, then Ithink she has a decent shot to

(19:08):
get at least Michigan, wisconsin.
I don't know about Pennsylvania, that one Pennsylvania.
You guys are upset about stuff.
You know Quaker State, you'reshooting presidents and
everything.
But I don't know.
I just don't think she hasenough firepower to win the
whole thing.
But I can hope that she wins,you know.

(19:31):
So at the end of the day, atthe end of the day, who do I got
?
I'm leaning towards KamalaHarris because of my you know my
nature of being, you know aperson of hope and hoping that
things happen.
I'm hoping that she wins.

(19:57):
But I'm not so sure that Americacan do all that.
I'm not sure America, thecountry that I love, is ready to
elect a biracial woman.
Just plain and simple.
Look at the abortion thing.
That shouldn't even be a topic.
But it shouldn't even be atopic, but it is.
It is a topic.

(20:17):
So this is all before theelection, all before the
election.
We'll see what happens.
But in the meantime, what thehell is Joe Biden been doing
this whole time?
Well, you ain't out therecampaigning or anything.
You ain't even said nothing.
But in the meantime, what thehell is Joe Biden been doing
this whole time?
Well, you ain't out therecampaigning or anything.

(20:38):
You ain't even said nothing.
I mean, I haven't heardanything like.
Kamala Harris would be a goodcandidate.
Kamala Harris would be a goodpresident.
I think this dude is actuallyasleep back at the White House.
Or Homeboy's mad, homeboy's mad.
Forget y'all.
I'm not getting mad at y'all.
I'm not gonna know.
Y'all don't want me here.
I'm not helping out.

(20:59):
So that's the episode of theWDYM.
Who do you got as your nextpresident?
One can hope, but someone elsecan make America great again.
Quote unquote Last questionwhen was America ever great?
We've been good.

(21:20):
The 90s was pretty good.
When were we even great?
Have a good one.
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