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September 23, 2025 36 mins

In the latest episode of the We Are Human Leaders podcast, we explore a topic that's inescapable right now: disruption.


In this dense-with-wisdom conversation, Sally Clarke and Alexis Zahner sit down with Terence Mauri, a global authority on leadership and disruption. They explore the concept of disruption, emphasizing its role in learning and growth rather than just technology. Terence introduces the DARE framework, which stands for Data, Agility, Risk, and Evolution, as a guide for leaders to navigate the complexities of modern organizations. The discussion highlights the importance of human connection, the risks of over-reliance on technology, and the need for leaders to foster a culture of curiosity and adaptability. Terence also shares some brilliant, actionable insights for leaders to embrace a radically human approach to disruption and organizational change.


You'll learn:


  • Disruption is not just a technology story; it's a learning journey.
  • The half-life of skills is decreasing, necessitating continuous learning.
  • Organizations are often trapped in bureaucracy, hindering productivity.
  • Leaders must embrace a mindset of agility and evolution.
  • The DARE framework helps leaders navigate change effectively.
  • Human connection is crucial in a technology-driven world.
  • Future readiness requires a balance between present and future focus.
  • Disruption can be an opportunity for growth and innovation.
  • Leaders should prioritize well-being to enhance productivity.
  • Starting before you're ready can lead to meaningful change.


Key Chapters


00:00 Defining Disruption: A New Perspective

06:08 The Half-Life of Skills and Complacency

09:12 Risk vs. Opportunity: Embracing Uncertainty

12:01 The Radically Human Approach to Disruption

14:57 The DARE Framework: A Roadmap for Leaders

17:51 Future Readiness: Balancing Today and Tomorrow

21:00 Organizational Rewilding: Embracing Human Values

23:56 Practical Steps for Leaders: Start Before You're Ready


Learn more about Terence's work and We Are Human Leaders at our show notes https://www.wearehumanleaders.com/podcast/befriending-uncertainty-with-terence-mauri


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