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May 22, 2025 52 mins

Today, John and Shaun get real about trust, control, and what it means to shape a life that doesn’t always follow the plan. From confessions about the past to reflections on what we can and can’t control - careers, relationships, even timing - they navigate what it means to let go and still show up.

Shaun opens up about missing his father, while John shares what it’s like to not miss his. Compliments make things awkward, cheaters raise big questions, and somewhere in the middle, there's a gentle acknowledgment that we’re all just figuring it out.

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