September 18, 2025 • 20 mins
Welcome back to We Do Whatever It Takes! 🎙️ Danny (magician & pastor) and Kimberly (associate marriage & family therapist) share real-life lessons from 29 years of marriage—plus one very messy paint story—to show how unexpected grace can defuse conflict and build deeper connection.
In this episode you’ll discover:
- Why Romans 5:8 is the ultimate “grace grenade.”
- How to break predictable patterns of criticism, withdrawal, and defensiveness.
- Practical ways to surprise your spouse with love and forgiveness—even in the middle of a mess.
Whether you’re newly married or decades in, these simple but powerful practices will help you turn conflict into connection and make grace the normal response in your home.
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Speaker 01 (00:00):
Welcome
Danny (00:03):
back to We Do Whatever It Takes.
I'm Danny Ray.
I'm a magician and pastor andI'm
Kimberly (00:09):
Kimberly and I'm an associate marriage and family
therapist.
Danny (00:13):
Fantastic.
So we're looking at this ideaof grace grenades.
How do we bring an intentionalact of love and forgiveness that
blows up those walls ofresentment and diffuses conflict
and resets the atmosphere?
This is a marriage podcastthat's designed to help you in
(00:34):
the real situations of life.
Kimberly (01:00):
Surprise has a way of shaking things up, which, I
mean, come on, you are full ofsurprises.
If you know Danny, and thatessentially means a lot of
surprises.
I
Danny (01:14):
like surprises.
Kimberly (01:14):
And as a magician, that's probably a really good
thing.
Danny (01:16):
And that's one of the elements as a magician that
people don't get to experiencethat shock or that wonder when
you experience surprise.
And so that's one of the thingsI love bringing to people.
But we can do that in ourmarriages.
When we talk about gracegrenades, we could do that with
grace, right?
Shock people, surprise themwith grace, surprise our spouse
(01:39):
with grace when they feel like,oh, I blew it.
But instead of getting whatthey deserve, they get your
love, they get grace, they getforgiveness.
Kimberly (01:48):
Yeah, for sure.
And the ultimate surprise ofgrace is Romans 5.8.
Did you see that?
I'm like going with a biblicalprinciple.
I see that, yeah.
Danny (02:30):
going our own way.
And that's
Kimberly (02:32):
the...
And when we least deserved it.
Danny (02:35):
Yeah.
When we look at our marriages,that's the goal is not when our
spouse comes hat in hand, whenthey're just like, oh, I have
totally blown it.
That's great when they're ableto do that.
But even when they don't, arewe able to demonstrate that love
that God demonstrates for us iswhy we are still sinners, why
we're still at our worst.
He demonstrated his love forus.
(02:58):
And
Kimberly (02:59):
when we do that, we're mirroring God's love for us in
our marriages right when we showthe grace that he shows us we
turn around and show that toeach other that has a huge
impact and we're called to do itso even though it's not easy we
still have to to show grace andin counseling I see I see
(03:25):
couples who brace for the worstif you will which Okay.
I bet
Danny (04:01):
you
Kimberly (04:02):
that like stops them in their tracks.
(04:27):
And surprise is one of grace'sgreatest weapons, if you will.
That's kind of a weird way tosay it.
(04:57):
meanness or I would justwithdraw or whatever your go-to
is.
Danny (05:05):
Mine's definitely defensiveness and withdraw.
Kimberly (05:09):
Okay.
Okay.
Wow.
That was brave to share that.
Danny (05:13):
Good job.
As I tend to, you say somethingand I, I get defensive really
quickly or you say something,I'm hurt and I just, I'm quiet.
I withdraw.
I don't, I choose to notconnect, but that's what I am
working on constantly overcomingand going Like, I know your
heart.
I know there's a thousand timesthat you've shown me grace and
(05:36):
love, and I need to let thatovershadow the hurt that I'm
feeling in that moment andaddress it if I need to and not,
you know, withdraw or besilent.
Or if I'm able to overlook theoffense to, you know, that's
also a biblical concept.
Absolutely.
If I'm able to overlook it, butnot to bury it.
(05:59):
And
Kimberly (06:01):
we'll talk about that in the next episode for sure.
Did you have any like magicprinciples or tricks that you
thought of with this one?
It's okay
Danny (06:12):
if you didn't.
I mean, surprise is just likeeverywhere in my show.
There's a piece I do where Ihave 10 cards selected.
They're shuffled into the deckand somebody else shuffles them
into the deck.
And then I find the cards oneat a time.
But the way I find the lastcard is it in I feel like you
(06:37):
just
Kimberly (06:37):
blew the surprise.
You just told everybody.
Danny (06:40):
It's so awesome.
But, you know, you begin tohear those,
Kimberly (06:45):
no.
Yeah, everybody's yelling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, it can't be in the gum.
No way.
Yeah.
Danny (06:50):
Right.
That's the shock that somethingimpossible is about to happen.
And I just think in ourmarriages, what would happen if
gum was in the gum?
Grace was one of those thingsthat your spouse is like, no, he
would not, she would not.
But then all of a sudden it'slike grace becomes the normal.
Grace becomes the surprise actthat you're able to give to your
(07:13):
spouse.
They expect a fight.
They expect like this boom oflike destruction or withdrawal
or pain.
And nope, they get a gracegrenade.
They get love.
They get something elseentirely.
And it's a shock to the systemAnd that shock, I think, will
create intimacy and it will...
Kimberly (07:35):
It's an opportunity to connect with your spouse rather
than conflict.
So we get so fearful ofconflict.
But if one of us drops a gracegrenade, so to speak, we handle
something differently than wenormally would and we shock them
with grace, then it's almostlike your magic, your
(07:59):
misdirection, right?
It's almost...
Danny (08:03):
Turns that conflict into connection.
Yeah.
Possibility of conflict intoconnection.
Into connection.
Yeah.
And just to be clear, we're notsaying in every possible
conflict we're able to do this.
We've talked a lot on hereabout conflict resolution.
And sometimes you just have towork through it and work it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(08:23):
And be able to talk about like,hey, this is why this hurt me
and walk through those steps.
Kimberly (08:29):
And I would say both like this walking through
conflict involves having grace.
Right.
So it's not that it takes theplace of working through the
conflict, right?
We still have to work throughit, but it's calm and it's...
Is
Danny (08:53):
it calm?
Let me remind you of one of ourconflicts recently and you tell
me how calm it was.
Kimberly (08:58):
Oh,
Danny (08:59):
shoot.
Which one are you going for,babe?
So I decided I was going to...
paint a room that Kim's beenpainting for a long, long
Kimberly (09:11):
time.
Okay, okay.
If you know us at all, we areterrible with projects.
Yes, that is true.
House projects, car, are thereeven car projects?
We have no idea how to do that.
But a house project, outside,inside,
Danny (09:25):
it doesn't matter.
Because
Kimberly (09:28):
neither of us know how to do it.
Danny (09:30):
But you're overseeing and like, are you sure of the
screw?
You screw it to the right?
Because I know you know knowwhat you're doing
Kimberly (09:36):
and I yes you've gained some skills and we each
have skills that we bring to thetable with it but neither one
of us
Speaker 01 (09:44):
do well
Kimberly (09:46):
but you did not just say that is yours my love
Danny (09:54):
projects are not our friend well she was out because
you know with her there you knowit's going to be a different
that's true
Kimberly (10:00):
we have we have a pattern for sure that we did not
set up necessarilyintentionally but But for all,
what did we say, 29 years ofmarriage, it has been, oh, she's
away.
I'll do a project because shecan't tell me no.
She can't do
Danny (10:15):
anything about it.
You told me when I installedthe floors, you're like, I don't
like that color.
I was like, oh, wow, that tookme a week to install those
floors.
Kimberly (10:23):
But you kind of have to ask the person you live with,
what color floors do you want?
Five years
Danny (10:28):
into our marriage or three years into our marriage.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
You live and learn that way.
We live and learn.
When she was out, I decided Iwas going to paint this room.
This is like last year, right?
This one?
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
She wanted to paint it.
And so I took the day, paintedit.
At the end of the day, shecomes in.
(10:48):
I was almost done, but I stillhave like all the plastic down,
all the tape on the walls.
It's close, you know, and she'slike, I love it.
I love it.
Kimberly (11:00):
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
See?
Loved it.
Danny (11:02):
Yes.
Kimberly (11:02):
People thought that I'm sure our listeners did Oh,
no, you did
Danny (11:07):
love it.
throwing that away first.
Kimberly (11:36):
I would love to see people's faces right now and go,
oh yeah, Danny, that's a greatidea.
Danny (11:42):
I'm not saying it was a great idea.
We know it fell apart.
But Kim's like, don't do that.
I'm like, it'll be fine.
She's like, you should throwthose away first.
I'm like, babe, it's fine.
I will take care of it.
I'm just going to grab.
And so I grab all the
Kimberly (11:54):
corners.
With a tiny bit snottier of anattitude than that.
Oh, probably
Danny (11:59):
so.
It's fine.
So I grab the corners and Istart to take Ugh.
Ugh.
Ugh.
out of that corner
Kimberly (12:35):
pouring pouring pouring stop stop stop stop
meant stop stop stop go figureand
Danny (12:42):
I went fast fast fast
Kimberly (12:43):
oh my gosh I don't know that I was ready to relive
this I had let this go and herewe are I'm feeling some anxiety
over this this is not not what Iwanted to relive but okay and
there's still some paint thereon the floor
Danny (12:59):
you got the biggest I told you so
Kimberly (13:03):
but who I'm Truly, I don't want the I told you so,
Danny (13:12):
right?
Because I didn't listen.
(13:36):
Right.
And we tried to get it up forhours and hours.
But eventually she went, I needto give grace.
And when she did give thatgrace, you know, it just that
resetting and going this at theend of the day, it's carpet and
it's paint.
It's not life.
(13:56):
It's not death.
It's.
Yeah.
Perspective helps.
Yeah.
And I think also give grace inthat situation.
That's
Kimberly (14:05):
good to know.
I don't remember that part, butI'm glad you remembered that
way.
Okay, fair.
I think what helps me, I don'tknow for other people, what
helps me to give grace isknowing that I've screwed up
too, right?
I have made my mistakes thatare permanent and, you know,
(14:27):
messing up something on aproject or a hole in the wall or
whatever.
I've made my mistakes and Ialso know there are more
mistakes to come That I willmake more mistakes.
And knowing that, knowing thatI'm not perfect helps me to
offer and extend grace to yougoing, I also know your intent.
(14:47):
You weren't trying to end upwith paint on our carpet, that
your intentions were good.
Danny (14:55):
Also with that grace is understanding where we stand
with God, right?
Is that he's fully given usgrace.
that we're fully loved, thatwe're fully known, that he's
paid it in full, gives us theability to give not just
ourselves grace, but othersgrace.
Kimberly (15:15):
Absolutely.
Amen to that.
Yeah.
So every time that you drop anunexpected grace grenade, as
we're calling them, you rewritethe script of your marriage.
And over time, those surprisesessentially turn into safety.
Like, okay, it's okay that Imade a mistake because truth be
(15:39):
told nobody yeah no and nobodylikes it right like nobody wants
to make mistakes that's not the
Danny (15:44):
goal right and my intent was I've been going all day I
wanted to get this all done atonce because I want you to be
able to see it all perfect andin my head you know faster was
better obviously I didn'trealize the next three hours
Kimberly (16:01):
that situation it was not better but that's okay it it
all
Danny (16:05):
worked out.
Imagine if it did go well,though.
You know, you would have seenit that much quicker.
All right.
I had not thought of that, butokay.
But back to intent is theintent wasn't to not listen to
you.
The intent wasn't to throw painon the floor.
Sure.
And sometimes understanding ourspouse's intentions helps us to
(16:27):
give grace in that situation.
Kimberly (16:30):
Yeah, I think it, in all honesty, it's not something
that you can just jump to rightaway necessarily I think that
takes a minute to a few minutesor even some time you know 10
minutes apart and breathingthrough it and going okay what's
what was his intent like he heloves me he was not trying to
(16:52):
put paint on the carpet foreverand ever it was supposed to go
on the walls like walking myselfthrough that allows me to and
like I said the me acknowledgingI've got my I've, you know,
certainly left permanent marks.
Danny (17:34):
And I think when we have that mindset, it changes the
outcome.
Kimberly (17:38):
Absolutely.
I think for me, what I thoughtyou were going to say is
picturing in one hand, the gracegrenade, and in the other, the
grenade of criticism.
And we really have the optionto throw either one.
And one is going to draw youcloser to each other and closer
(17:59):
to Christ, and one is not.
In
Danny (18:02):
Proverbs, it says that on the tongue has the power of
life or
Kimberly (18:06):
death
Danny (18:07):
yeah and we have that opportunity to speak life into
our spouse every day to givethem the the joy the hope the
love that we all need um or wecould tear them down and yeah
and that just tears our ourmarriage apart as we um put our
spouse down
Kimberly (18:25):
for sure so with that we have our weekly grace grenade
challenge danny loves thechallenge
Danny (18:34):
all right so So here is, here's the challenge.
Normally, you know, when youthink about a place, you might
think of like frustration orcriticism, but every day you
have an opportunity to throweither that grace grenade or
that criticism grenade, if youwill, right?
And so once this week, chooseto throw that grace grenade.
(18:58):
Maybe it's two, maybe it'sthree, but maybe you haven't
thrown any grace into yourmarriage in a long time.
This week in Absolutely.
And just a little caveat.
Welcome
Danny (00:03):
back to We Do Whatever It Takes.
I'm Danny Ray.
I'm a magician and pastor andI'm
Kimberly (00:09):
Kimberly and I'm an associate marriage and family
therapist.
Danny (00:13):
Fantastic.
So we're looking at this ideaof grace grenades.
How do we bring an intentionalact of love and forgiveness that
blows up those walls ofresentment and diffuses conflict
and resets the atmosphere?
This is a marriage podcastthat's designed to help you in
(00:34):
the real situations of life.
Kimberly (01:00):
Surprise has a way of shaking things up, which, I
mean, come on, you are full ofsurprises.
If you know Danny, and thatessentially means a lot of
surprises.
I
Danny (01:14):
like surprises.
Kimberly (01:14):
And as a magician, that's probably a really good
thing.
Danny (01:16):
And that's one of the elements as a magician that
people don't get to experiencethat shock or that wonder when
you experience surprise.
And so that's one of the thingsI love bringing to people.
But we can do that in ourmarriages.
When we talk about gracegrenades, we could do that with
grace, right?
Shock people, surprise themwith grace, surprise our spouse
(01:39):
with grace when they feel like,oh, I blew it.
But instead of getting whatthey deserve, they get your
love, they get grace, they getforgiveness.
Kimberly (01:48):
Yeah, for sure.
And the ultimate surprise ofgrace is Romans 5.8.
Did you see that?
I'm like going with a biblicalprinciple.
I see that, yeah.
Danny (02:30):
going our own way.
And that's
Kimberly (02:32):
the...
And when we least deserved it.
Danny (02:35):
Yeah.
When we look at our marriages,that's the goal is not when our
spouse comes hat in hand, whenthey're just like, oh, I have
totally blown it.
That's great when they're ableto do that.
But even when they don't, arewe able to demonstrate that love
that God demonstrates for us iswhy we are still sinners, why
we're still at our worst.
He demonstrated his love forus.
(02:58):
And
Kimberly (02:59):
when we do that, we're mirroring God's love for us in
our marriages right when we showthe grace that he shows us we
turn around and show that toeach other that has a huge
impact and we're called to do itso even though it's not easy we
still have to to show grace andin counseling I see I see
(03:25):
couples who brace for the worstif you will which Okay.
I bet
Danny (04:01):
you
Kimberly (04:02):
that like stops them in their tracks.
(04:27):
And surprise is one of grace'sgreatest weapons, if you will.
That's kind of a weird way tosay it.
(04:57):
meanness or I would justwithdraw or whatever your go-to
is.
Danny (05:05):
Mine's definitely defensiveness and withdraw.
Kimberly (05:09):
Okay.
Okay.
Wow.
That was brave to share that.
Danny (05:13):
Good job.
As I tend to, you say somethingand I, I get defensive really
quickly or you say something,I'm hurt and I just, I'm quiet.
I withdraw.
I don't, I choose to notconnect, but that's what I am
working on constantly overcomingand going Like, I know your
heart.
I know there's a thousand timesthat you've shown me grace and
(05:36):
love, and I need to let thatovershadow the hurt that I'm
feeling in that moment andaddress it if I need to and not,
you know, withdraw or besilent.
Or if I'm able to overlook theoffense to, you know, that's
also a biblical concept.
Absolutely.
If I'm able to overlook it, butnot to bury it.
(05:59):
And
Kimberly (06:01):
we'll talk about that in the next episode for sure.
Did you have any like magicprinciples or tricks that you
thought of with this one?
It's okay
Danny (06:12):
if you didn't.
I mean, surprise is just likeeverywhere in my show.
There's a piece I do where Ihave 10 cards selected.
They're shuffled into the deckand somebody else shuffles them
into the deck.
And then I find the cards oneat a time.
But the way I find the lastcard is it in I feel like you
(06:37):
just
Kimberly (06:37):
blew the surprise.
You just told everybody.
Danny (06:40):
It's so awesome.
But, you know, you begin tohear those,
Kimberly (06:45):
no.
Yeah, everybody's yelling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, it can't be in the gum.
No way.
Yeah.
Danny (06:50):
Right.
That's the shock that somethingimpossible is about to happen.
And I just think in ourmarriages, what would happen if
gum was in the gum?
Grace was one of those thingsthat your spouse is like, no, he
would not, she would not.
But then all of a sudden it'slike grace becomes the normal.
Grace becomes the surprise actthat you're able to give to your
(07:13):
spouse.
They expect a fight.
They expect like this boom oflike destruction or withdrawal
or pain.
And nope, they get a gracegrenade.
They get love.
They get something elseentirely.
And it's a shock to the systemAnd that shock, I think, will
create intimacy and it will...
Kimberly (07:35):
It's an opportunity to connect with your spouse rather
than conflict.
So we get so fearful ofconflict.
But if one of us drops a gracegrenade, so to speak, we handle
something differently than wenormally would and we shock them
with grace, then it's almostlike your magic, your
(07:59):
misdirection, right?
It's almost...
Danny (08:03):
Turns that conflict into connection.
Yeah.
Possibility of conflict intoconnection.
Into connection.
Yeah.
And just to be clear, we're notsaying in every possible
conflict we're able to do this.
We've talked a lot on hereabout conflict resolution.
And sometimes you just have towork through it and work it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(08:23):
And be able to talk about like,hey, this is why this hurt me
and walk through those steps.
Kimberly (08:29):
And I would say both like this walking through
conflict involves having grace.
Right.
So it's not that it takes theplace of working through the
conflict, right?
We still have to work throughit, but it's calm and it's...
Is
Danny (08:53):
it calm?
Let me remind you of one of ourconflicts recently and you tell
me how calm it was.
Kimberly (08:58):
Oh,
Danny (08:59):
shoot.
Which one are you going for,babe?
So I decided I was going to...
paint a room that Kim's beenpainting for a long, long
Kimberly (09:11):
time.
Okay, okay.
If you know us at all, we areterrible with projects.
Yes, that is true.
House projects, car, are thereeven car projects?
We have no idea how to do that.
But a house project, outside,inside,
Danny (09:25):
it doesn't matter.
Because
Kimberly (09:28):
neither of us know how to do it.
Danny (09:30):
But you're overseeing and like, are you sure of the
screw?
You screw it to the right?
Because I know you know knowwhat you're doing
Kimberly (09:36):
and I yes you've gained some skills and we each
have skills that we bring to thetable with it but neither one
of us
Speaker 01 (09:44):
do well
Kimberly (09:46):
but you did not just say that is yours my love
Danny (09:54):
projects are not our friend well she was out because
you know with her there you knowit's going to be a different
that's true
Kimberly (10:00):
we have we have a pattern for sure that we did not
set up necessarilyintentionally but But for all,
what did we say, 29 years ofmarriage, it has been, oh, she's
away.
I'll do a project because shecan't tell me no.
She can't do
Danny (10:15):
anything about it.
You told me when I installedthe floors, you're like, I don't
like that color.
I was like, oh, wow, that tookme a week to install those
floors.
Kimberly (10:23):
But you kind of have to ask the person you live with,
what color floors do you want?
Five years
Danny (10:28):
into our marriage or three years into our marriage.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
You live and learn that way.
We live and learn.
When she was out, I decided Iwas going to paint this room.
This is like last year, right?
This one?
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
She wanted to paint it.
And so I took the day, paintedit.
At the end of the day, shecomes in.
(10:48):
I was almost done, but I stillhave like all the plastic down,
all the tape on the walls.
It's close, you know, and she'slike, I love it.
I love it.
Kimberly (11:00):
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
See?
Loved it.
Danny (11:02):
Yes.
Kimberly (11:02):
People thought that I'm sure our listeners did Oh,
no, you did
Danny (11:07):
love it.
throwing that away first.
Kimberly (11:36):
I would love to see people's faces right now and go,
oh yeah, Danny, that's a greatidea.
Danny (11:42):
I'm not saying it was a great idea.
We know it fell apart.
But Kim's like, don't do that.
I'm like, it'll be fine.
She's like, you should throwthose away first.
I'm like, babe, it's fine.
I will take care of it.
I'm just going to grab.
And so I grab all the
Kimberly (11:54):
corners.
With a tiny bit snottier of anattitude than that.
Oh, probably
Danny (11:59):
so.
It's fine.
So I grab the corners and Istart to take Ugh.
Ugh.
Ugh.
out of that corner
Kimberly (12:35):
pouring pouring pouring stop stop stop stop
meant stop stop stop go figureand
Danny (12:42):
I went fast fast fast
Kimberly (12:43):
oh my gosh I don't know that I was ready to relive
this I had let this go and herewe are I'm feeling some anxiety
over this this is not not what Iwanted to relive but okay and
there's still some paint thereon the floor
Danny (12:59):
you got the biggest I told you so
Kimberly (13:03):
but who I'm Truly, I don't want the I told you so,
Danny (13:12):
right?
Because I didn't listen.
(13:36):
Right.
And we tried to get it up forhours and hours.
But eventually she went, I needto give grace.
And when she did give thatgrace, you know, it just that
resetting and going this at theend of the day, it's carpet and
it's paint.
It's not life.
(13:56):
It's not death.
It's.
Yeah.
Perspective helps.
Yeah.
And I think also give grace inthat situation.
That's
Kimberly (14:05):
good to know.
I don't remember that part, butI'm glad you remembered that
way.
Okay, fair.
I think what helps me, I don'tknow for other people, what
helps me to give grace isknowing that I've screwed up
too, right?
I have made my mistakes thatare permanent and, you know,
(14:27):
messing up something on aproject or a hole in the wall or
whatever.
I've made my mistakes and Ialso know there are more
mistakes to come That I willmake more mistakes.
And knowing that, knowing thatI'm not perfect helps me to
offer and extend grace to yougoing, I also know your intent.
(14:47):
You weren't trying to end upwith paint on our carpet, that
your intentions were good.
Danny (14:55):
Also with that grace is understanding where we stand
with God, right?
Is that he's fully given usgrace.
that we're fully loved, thatwe're fully known, that he's
paid it in full, gives us theability to give not just
ourselves grace, but othersgrace.
Kimberly (15:15):
Absolutely.
Amen to that.
Yeah.
So every time that you drop anunexpected grace grenade, as
we're calling them, you rewritethe script of your marriage.
And over time, those surprisesessentially turn into safety.
Like, okay, it's okay that Imade a mistake because truth be
(15:39):
told nobody yeah no and nobodylikes it right like nobody wants
to make mistakes that's not the
Danny (15:44):
goal right and my intent was I've been going all day I
wanted to get this all done atonce because I want you to be
able to see it all perfect andin my head you know faster was
better obviously I didn'trealize the next three hours
Kimberly (16:01):
that situation it was not better but that's okay it it
all
Danny (16:05):
worked out.
Imagine if it did go well,though.
You know, you would have seenit that much quicker.
All right.
I had not thought of that, butokay.
But back to intent is theintent wasn't to not listen to
you.
The intent wasn't to throw painon the floor.
Sure.
And sometimes understanding ourspouse's intentions helps us to
(16:27):
give grace in that situation.
Kimberly (16:30):
Yeah, I think it, in all honesty, it's not something
that you can just jump to rightaway necessarily I think that
takes a minute to a few minutesor even some time you know 10
minutes apart and breathingthrough it and going okay what's
what was his intent like he heloves me he was not trying to
(16:52):
put paint on the carpet foreverand ever it was supposed to go
on the walls like walking myselfthrough that allows me to and
like I said the me acknowledgingI've got my I've, you know,
certainly left permanent marks.
Danny (17:34):
And I think when we have that mindset, it changes the
outcome.
Kimberly (17:38):
Absolutely.
I think for me, what I thoughtyou were going to say is
picturing in one hand, the gracegrenade, and in the other, the
grenade of criticism.
And we really have the optionto throw either one.
And one is going to draw youcloser to each other and closer
(17:59):
to Christ, and one is not.
In
Danny (18:02):
Proverbs, it says that on the tongue has the power of
life or
Kimberly (18:06):
death
Danny (18:07):
yeah and we have that opportunity to speak life into
our spouse every day to givethem the the joy the hope the
love that we all need um or wecould tear them down and yeah
and that just tears our ourmarriage apart as we um put our
spouse down
Kimberly (18:25):
for sure so with that we have our weekly grace grenade
challenge danny loves thechallenge
Danny (18:34):
all right so So here is, here's the challenge.
Normally, you know, when youthink about a place, you might
think of like frustration orcriticism, but every day you
have an opportunity to throweither that grace grenade or
that criticism grenade, if youwill, right?
And so once this week, chooseto throw that grace grenade.
(18:58):
Maybe it's two, maybe it'sthree, but maybe you haven't
thrown any grace into yourmarriage in a long time.
This week in Absolutely.
And just a little caveat.
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