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February 28, 2023 54 mins

People with disabilities often face an uphill battle when it comes to finding employment and career growth.  Sue and Vanessa speak with Deaf Kids Code and Proctor & Gamble about how they're devising a more inclusive approach to the talent pool - it could be a model for all companies looking to hire and retain top talent.


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Producers & Hosts: Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson

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Intro Voice-Over Artist: Veronica Horta

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Cover Artwork Photo Credit: Alice Moore 

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