December 5, 2024 • 49 mins
In this episode we scratch the surface of the enormous conversation that is screen time for our kids. We give our hot takes about the specific AAP guidelines and lay out some helpful guidelines you can follow to create a screen time plan that works for your family.
Given that it is also the season of giving, we couldn't help but dive into some gift-buying tricks we're trying this holiday season. Is the mental load of Christmas too much for you right now? These tips might be just what you need.
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Jordan (00:00):
Do I throw a TV on when I want to teach my kids
(00:01):
something?
No, I throw the TV on when Ineed to get some shit done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah Yeah, or if you're doinglike
Lindsay (00:09):
a task that could be unsafe for her to join in with
you Exactly, whatever right?
Yeah.
Jordan (00:13):
Yep.
Hi.
Hello.
Lindsay (00:21):
Hello.
Hi.
How's it going?
Happy Sunday.
Happy Sunday.
Woohoo.
Yeah, we're approaching
Jordan (00:28):
December.
We're getting clo.
It's like, yeah, Thanksgivingweek here.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Happy
Lindsay (00:33):
Thanksgiving
Jordan (00:34):
week.
Thanks.
I'm not making Thanksgivingdinner, so I'm feeling good
about About my week.
Yeah.
We haven't
Lindsay (00:40):
recorded since you've had your baby.
We haven't.
Jordan (00:43):
No.
Yeah, I've got big Comfy.
Yeah.
I'm not the one sitting here.
Pregnant and uncomfortable.
at the recording table.
Yes, I am now
Lindsay (00:52):
in my third trimester and it's getting uncomfy.
Like, the moment I switched overto third, I feel like I'm
growing and I'm more uncomfy atnight.
The emotional tears arehappening sometimes at the end
of the day.
Jordan (01:08):
It's a lot.
So
Lindsay (01:11):
I'm in third trimester.
Jordan has her baby.
A lot of things are going on.
Jordan (01:14):
Yeah, we're staying busy.
We're staying busy and God,we're staying tired.
I know you're dealing with a lotof insomnia.
And I am obviously up threenights, three days, three times,
uh huh.
Yeah.
I can't even speak.
My mom,
Lindsay (01:31):
my pregnancy brain came in like a month ago.
It did it?
It's been about a month.
I was in Minnesota in Octoberand I remember Not having the
word or sentence for somethingand I said, oh boy, it's back
And it's been back like full on.
So Jordan and I have been MarcoPing each other and we both have
(01:54):
this like pregnancies, parades.
We like two minutes breaks ofsilence.
Yeah.
So the la But I will just saythe last Margo Polo, you were
talking about not havingclothes.
And you were like, you werelike, you were talking, telling
me that you didn't have clothesto wear.
Yeah.
It's a postpartum or just likegoing out casual dinner or
(02:16):
whatever.
Yeah.
And then you saw the mountainsand you were distracted by all
the snow in the mountains andthen you got back on and you're
like, I have no clue what I waseven talking
Jordan (02:22):
about.
I was like trying to rememberand then I just ended the Marco
Polo.
I was like, I can't, I can'tthink about what it is.
So I'll We were just talkingabout clothes.
Lindsay (02:32):
Oh,
Jordan (02:33):
that's too funny.
Yeah, I'm having a bit of aclothing crisis at like the
thing that struck me one of themany things that struck me the
first time I had a kid wasYou're like when you're pregnant
you're like I would kill to weara t shirt.
I just like want to wear my tshirts, you know?
Like, I'm a t shirt girl.
that's all I want to do is justlike wear my t shirt or
whatever.
You know, like you miss all yourclothes and you're so stoked to
give birth because you're like,oh, get all my clothes back.
(02:55):
And then, boom, you don't getyour clothes back.
Yeah, your boobs are huge.
And then if you'rebreastfeeding, like
everything's, I'm basicallyrock, well, like never wearing a
shirt at home.
Lindsay (03:04):
I went to Mexico three months postpartum from my first
daughter and I was just, mybreasts were already large and
in charge and I thought it wasgonna be fine.
No, I had to go buy a bigger toppostpartum for Mexico.
Yeah.
Just when you think you're
Jordan (03:21):
done with that shit, you're not.
Psych.
You don't get
Lindsay (03:24):
your clothes back yet.
Don't be silly.
No.
I'll be, uh, so I was like,First trimester all summer and
I'm comfy and in biker shortsand like oversized t shirts and
tank tops I'll probably be theexact same clothes next summer
Yeah.
Postpartum.
Yeah.
Almost certainly.
Yeah.
So.
At least
Jordan (03:42):
summer's a nice time.
I'm like, I could wear theselike sweaters and then my jeans
aren't fitting like quite right.
I'm just like, gosh.
Yeah.
It's all good if I'm wearing mysweatpants and bra at home.
Lindsay (03:53):
Weren't we going to plan on having like a bra
burning party?
God, can we?
I told Andrew, I said, I want tobuy it.
I want to like extend it and domy clothing.
Like the shirt, the shirt hasbeen through everything.
It's
Jordan (04:07):
cute.
First birth and well,
Lindsay (04:10):
yeah, we're both wearing like Henleys, waffly
Henleys that are just, you havemilk on that.
I have like, this thing is likeragged.
You can practically see throughit.
So we're not
Jordan (04:23):
recording
Lindsay (04:23):
any video today.
Jordan (04:24):
So it's all good.
Anyway, how are you?
Lindsay (04:31):
I'm really trying to find like the good in every
single day right now.
Uh,
Jordan (04:35):
yep.
Lindsay (04:35):
Yeah.
Jordan (04:36):
It's sunny now.
It was full of shade thismorning.
It's sunny now.
So there you go.
That's good.
Well, should we get after it?
We've got Yeah.
We've got a big topic today.
It's a fun one.
Lindsay (04:47):
We're talking about screen time today.
We are.
And this is quite the topic.
Jordan (04:54):
It's a good one right now for me as a person with a
newborn and a toddler.
We've definitely been using alittle bit more screen time.
Bye.
Hey, so she's two years old.
Lindsay (05:04):
So according to everybody on the web for
researchy stuff, I looked up,she's fine.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure she's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's
Jordan (05:14):
listening now.
It's two.
You're good.
The amount of time.
Yeah, I know.
Okay.
Lindsay (05:20):
Yeah.
Um, so screen time.
is ever changing.
This research is ever changing.
I looked at stuff that waswritten back in 2020 and that's
when COVID really changed thingsfor our children.
I went with the most recent thatI could find.
Jordan (05:36):
That's and yeah, yeah, I think so.
Lindsay (05:41):
It was really interesting though.
Comparing the two.
Cause I was like, wow.
I mean, 2020 and post 20.
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, it was, it was wild.
And I was like, man, I wonder ifit's going to change like this
much every single year, every,every few years.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I wonder.
So screen time is a huge topic.
It's very opinionated.
obviously with it being involvedin all of our lives, this is
(06:06):
something that can just be lookvery different for every single
home.
Truly.
Jordan (06:12):
Oh, you're dying.
Lindsay (06:16):
Okay.
Do I need the birth ball?
I just, I just need, I don'tknow.
Cause if I sit hips down lower,that might bring baby up.
I don't know.
That's true.
I don't know.
I think the baby's likeimplanted up higher in my uterus
or something.
That's why it's just like Thatmade
Jordan (06:29):
me feel like my stomach just turned when you said that.
Wow.
Those kicks to the, like, lungsand stomach.
Lindsay (06:37):
Yeah, I feel like I can tell the baby's getting bigger
because I, head, head isn't downyet, but like I can feel further
on my sides.
Interesting.
Jordan (06:46):
You're definitely looking bigger.
So yeah.
Thank you for getting there.
You
Lindsay (06:52):
are still no stretch marks yet.
That's great.
I don't know.
I just like, I'm very, veryitchy.
So I got really itchy too.
I'm like lotion, lotion, lotion.
Yeah.
Oh, the homemade lotion that Imake.
Do you need more of that?
I actually do.
I, cause I'm putting an order infor more or buying more of the
stuff.
Yeah.
(07:12):
I just
Jordan (07:12):
put coconut oil on my.
Shopping list for Costco to makesome more.
I have some jojoba oil itLindsay makes great lotion
Lindsay (07:20):
Yeah, I do.
I've made it since I wassophomore year college.
Yeah,
Jordan (07:25):
I made some for all my family for Christmas last year
It was a big hit cool.
We'll post the
Lindsay (07:30):
recipes Yeah, if you want it It's really good shit,
though.
I love it.
I don't think I'll ever go back.
Okay, so screen time.
Jordan (07:41):
Screen time is what we are talking about.
Yes.
Lindsay (07:45):
Okay, so, maybe a lot of parents are like trying to
figure out how much screen timeis appropriate, you might just
be going to Google and beinglike screen time for kids
guidelines.
I did look further beyond thatfor this topic, obviously.
So I'll just give you like therundown of the quick, like
Google search.
I did The American Academy ofPediatrics was like hardcore
(08:07):
guidelines.
First and foremost they're gonnatell you under two years old The
American Academy of Pediatricsrecommends no screen time at all
Under two.
And the C.
D.
C recommends not using mediawith children under two at all
Jordan (08:21):
media.
Yeah, like that.
Does that include just likemusic on Spotify?
Right.
Because that's crazy.
Lindsay (08:27):
I had me, I had Spotify playlist going for her in the
car.
Yeah, dude.
My kid was dancing to musicunder two.
I don't know about that exactly.
And then it, the next one islike the next age gap.
Gap is two to five years old.
And that was limit the noneducational screen time to about
one hour per weekday, and threehours on weekends.
(08:49):
6 and older, encourage healthyhabits and limit screen time.
The American Academy ofPediatrics recommends limiting
the entertainment screen time to2 hours a day for children's 3
to 18.
It's crazy to
Jordan (09:00):
me that it goes from 0 hour, like 0, none at all, until
age 2, and then it's an hour aday.
Yeah.
Like, ol jump.
Right, why wouldn't you justlike ease your way into it?
Right.
If you, Or just not even I meanfor us.
Yeah,
Lindsay (09:14):
but then like think about to like two hours a day
for three to 18 years old.
I That's a lot of screen time.
All the kids in my neighborhoodare in school these days on
screens
Jordan (09:26):
in schools right now.
Yes
Lindsay (09:28):
Yeah, since since Cove it I mean that was more than two
hours a day So, this is all veryinteresting.
Oh, well, yeah, like,interestingly, if they're doing
school all the time here.
Yeah, so, so to have such a big,like, children, adolescent age
group, 3 to 18, wowza.
Yeah, that's a big spam.
I mean, 18 year olds are going,some 18 year olds are going to
(09:49):
college even as well.
I don't know.
This was, this was quiteinteresting, so.
Good point.
I'll be moving on furtherbecause I just wanted to start
with this.
Because I was like, hell to theno, that doesn't even seem like
realistic, the American Academyof Pediatrics did give some
considerations that you couldconsider in your home, in your
family.
Turn off screens during familymeals and outings.
(10:13):
Is that you're like, figure outa plan first for your family.
Like, cause family meals couldbe, family meals and outings
could be going out to dinner.
What if you flew in on yourvacation and you only had like
an hour and a half to get to arestaurant to eat something and
your kid was wild or, and youwere just like overstimulated.
What you just have no idea.
(10:35):
So to say turn off screensduring that time, I don't know.
Like it just, really depends onlike what's going on in
someone's day.
I think in general it's probablya good idea to
Jordan (10:43):
like turn off screens while you're at like the dinner
table.
Yes, like during a normal day today.
I mean that's what I was talkingabout.
Lindsay (10:50):
That's what I'm, yeah, so the problem I kind of have
with these first Considerationsand bullet points is they're
kind of vague.
They're not very specific Yeah,so I always question like
everything like what you'requestioning right now Like
obviously if we're at home, wewouldn't have our screens on or
TV on So I agree with that, butthey just say it's during during
(11:15):
the day Family meals andoutings.
Well, not every family meal andouting is going to be the same.
Yeah, yeah.
That's true.
I will say, it also says removescreens from bedrooms 30 to 60
minutes before bedtime.
We absolutely do that.
Her daughter is busy girly fromdinner to bedtime, where we're
not.
Jordan (11:35):
Yeah, that's my kid's hyper phase.
We're like throwing her onto thebed and making her run up and
Yeah.
Lindsay (11:42):
Um, let's see, another one was consider using screen
time as a reward system.
Jordan (11:48):
Hmm.
That probably has mixed, uh,that's a controversial one.
Lindsay (11:52):
These are considerations that were pretty
vague and, um, and now we'rejust going to kind of move on to
like what works best forfamilies and how you can make
your own like family plan.
Yeah.
Cool.
For what works best for you.
This is where I headed on overto the American Academy of Child
and Adolescent Psychiatry.
(12:12):
This was like one of the mostrecent research articles I came
across, and it came fromsignificantly reliable resource
in my opinion.
and it just kind of goes overthat, like, you know, managing a
child's screen time ischallenging for families.
For sure.
Whether the kids are.
Figuring out how to manage theirscreen time in school, at
daycare, at home, what's goingon in your home life, what's
(12:36):
going on on a weekly basis inyour home.
It can be challenging foranyone, any family.
So your child is never too youngto have that screen time plan.
Jordan (12:46):
Yeah,
Lindsay (12:47):
that's fair.
I mean, you guys are doing likeessentially like a plan right
now.
Yeah, we
Jordan (12:51):
pretty much do.
Yeah, like it's not like awritten out and stamped plan,
but I have like a general ideaof what I'm comfortable with in
my head.
And we don't really stray fromthat.
Right, yeah, so I think it's,it's interesting that there's
like a pre COVID and a postCOVID, like, discrepancy between
those two time periods.
The, the one like piece of, Ican't really call it research,
(13:13):
but the little bit of exposureto like guidelines about TV and
screen time that I've had, Iread in a book called Cribsheet
by Emily Oster.
Um, this is a highly recommendedbook for new parents.
Yeah, totally.
She wrote, a pregnancy one toothat I, that I listened to that
was really good.
It was expecting better.
she's a data analyst.
We've talked about her before onhere.
(13:34):
I don't remember.
She's
Lindsay (13:35):
very reassuring when it comes to, if you're finding
yourself like in the throws andlike confusion of all the
opinions.
Jordan (13:41):
Totally.
Cause she, yeah, she comesthrough the data and lays it out
really straight.
I totally appreciate the workshe's doing in her book crib.
She talks about the, theresearch that exists.
you know, in this whole screentime and kids realm.
And basically her conclusion wasthat the research that has been
done hasn't necessarily beengreat.
This was published in 2019 justfor the record, like maybe
(14:04):
there's better research now, butbasically she said like her main
points of that of the chapterabout TV use was children under
two.
Don't really learn from TV nowObviously like there are a lot
of reasons why you might use TVlike I don't that's really like
90 percent of the time when Iplay Put something on and our
(14:25):
screen time's not crazy.
She probably gets like 30minutes a day, three days a
week, maybe up to like threehours a week maximum right now
with me or not right now, butlike when my baby was very first
born and she was struggling whenI was feeding him and stuff.
Maybe three hours max.
We're privileged.
I'm home all day on maternityleave, so it's easier for me.
(14:46):
But yeah, I don't do it to teachher anything.
Like, it is good to chooseprograms that maybe do art
teaching and maybe lessstimulating.
But yeah, so under two, theycan't really learn much, but
they definitely engage.
Like, my kid engaged in MissRachel when she was like, nine
months plus.
Dang, dude.
Miss Rachel was our savior.
(15:07):
On like, road trips?
Are you kidding me?
When you went
Lindsay (15:10):
to Europe, I remember that was a huge thing for you.
Yeah.
when we traveled, She was undera year old.
That was huge for us too.
And she
Jordan (15:18):
loves her.
Yeah.
Like, so don't be saying youcan't.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like sometimes as a parent, yougot to use those like crutches
when you need them.
Yeah.
That's all I'm going to sayabout that.
Anyway.
So yes, children under two can'treally learn from TVs.
She, she doesn't say theyshouldn't watch it as a result.
She's just saying that theresearch says.
(15:38):
They're not learning anything,really.
Children from three to fiveactually do learn from TV,
including vocabulary.
And she said that there was, alot of research that said,
actually, like, kids who watchedmore TV If anything had slightly
better test scores and schoolreadiness than kids who didn't
it like even that research was alittle bit wobbly, but there was
(15:58):
paper done that said that waslike trying to just like show
that TV was detrimental.
And this was like kids watchingthree hours or more a day, which
was wild.
But their test scores weren'tnegatively impacted in that
particular set of research, sothat was interesting.
I don't think I could handle theTV being on for three hours a
day, but, but I get it.
(16:19):
Anyway, so yeah, so.
3 to 5, you can learn stuff.
It might be a good idea to try,like, you know, vet the programs
that you're putting on for yourkid and choose ones that are
more educational or whatever.
Yeah, yeah,
Lindsay (16:30):
yeah.
Jordan (16:31):
But yeah, I don't know.
Lindsay (16:32):
And like, finding like, the apps on your phone that
Jordan (16:34):
are educational.
Right, yeah, I haven't evengotten into like, screen time
for like iPods and games andphones.
Lindsay (16:40):
I did come across, this research paper that I, or that I
read up on did say to choose atelevision or computer because
it is further away from theireyes.
Oh yeah,
Jordan (16:49):
that makes sense.
Lindsay (16:50):
Um, so first like the phone or the iPad.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, so basically I, I loved thatyou threw in Emily Oster a
little bit cause she's, she'ssuch a good resource.
Yeah.
She's great.
She's really, I love her.
Yeah, I hope she continues.
Her path of research.
Yeah, because she's
Jordan (17:08):
just in a great spot.
She's like right in front of us.
Yes, basically.
Yeah, it's nice.
Yeah.
Lindsay (17:14):
So continuing on with, the American Academy of Child
and Adolescent Psychiatry tipsto, kind of get you started on
making a plan for yourself andyour family.
first point that they put out isfamiliar yourself with the
program to make sure it's ageappropriate.
for us right now, that lookslike non stimulating shows.
Something she can, like, laughwith.
(17:34):
Interact with.
Understand.
We're watching Peppa Pig.
Okay.
and Bluey right now.
Those are like top two shows.
And then if you're, if you'replanning on being in front of
the TV with your child as well.
I don't know if that looks likefor you guys right now, if
you're feeding your son andshe's got any with a TV on and
she's watching TV, I don't know,but talking to your child about
what they see, point out goodbehaviors such as cooperation,
(17:56):
friendship, concern for others,making the connections.
Um, with like meaningful eventsthat are going on in the show,
location, places of interest,kind of just like being like,
yeah, look at it.
Peppa pig is walking up the hillto her house.
And I don't know, just kind ofpointing out interesting stuff
for them to kind of make thateducational connection.
(18:17):
obviously encouraging your childto learn other activities such
as sports, music, art, andhobbies that do not involve
screens.
This is, how we balance outsidetime versus inside time.
Yeah.
So we head outside to balancethat.
We play, we do, we do crafttime.
We do a lot of balancing forhaving her learn other
activities than just beingscreen time every single day for
(18:40):
a certain amount of time.
Um, set good example with yourown safe and healthy screen
habits.
Yeah.
That's one that I'm trying toinstill in us.
I think all of us are.
Yeah.
Bye.
It's really hard.
I do a lot of stuff on my phone.
Yeah.
Grocery shopping.
All the shopping is done on myphone.
Yeah.
Insta, like Instacart, Amazon,grocery.
(19:00):
And I have to set that timeaside.
But if I think of something thatneeds to go on the list, my
phone immediately comes out sothat I can put it in there.
Whether I'm interacting with herin the middle of something or
not, she sees that.
and then that's when she asks tobe on the phone and look at
photos too.
So I think this is going to be aforever thing.
It was just like really beingaware of yourself and like, What
(19:21):
it could look like.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like as a fly on the wallsituation.
Yeah,
Jordan (19:25):
me and my husband are talking about dedicating chunks
of time in the day to put ourphones like in a totally
different spot.
Like a little basket orsomething.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Cause if we start that now, thenwhen the kids eventually have
phones when they're older andYeah, we could do that.
We ask them to do that, it won'tbe like what the hell you guys
have been on your phones all dayeveryday since we were Yeah.
(19:45):
Tiny.
Lindsay (19:46):
Yeah.
So that's a big one that we'llalways be working on, too.
Yeah.
Another tip was to encourageusing screens in ways that build
creativity and connection withfamily and friends.
Consider your child or teen'smaturity and habits.
I guess this would be the sameas like, age appropriate.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah.
And just like, watch whatthey're doing.
(20:07):
I mean, obviously there's Right.
Right.
You and I are going to crossthese tips later on in life, but
being aware of advertising andhow it influences choices,
teaching children about onlineprivacy and safety, actively
deciding when your child isready for a personal device.
We've, we have a lot of neighborfriends, we have a great
(20:28):
neighborhood, everyone's gotkids and I mean, I think my
daughter is like the young,youngest and then the oldest of
all the kids in the neighborhoodis kind of.
I think a junior in high schoolor junior or senior.
So big range.
And we're kind of all talkingabout like, when did your kids
get it?
When did your kids get theirphone?
When did your kids, young islike six.
(20:50):
What?
And then a lot of common oneswere like 11 to 13.
What the hell dude?
That's crazy.
And then 13, I can start to seeit.
Yeah.
Jordan (21:02):
Yeah, but I don't want my kids like having like
Instagram or whatever.
It's TikTok, whatever socialmedia looks like when they're 13
on their phones.
Lindsay (21:10):
Yeah,
Jordan (21:11):
I mean, this is one of those things, like, when, you
know, before we were pregnant,you're like, Oh, I'm never gonna
let my kid watch TV or havesugar or whatever the thing is,
you know, and then you get inthe moment, you're like, I can't
pick you up to take you insidethe house.
Do you want some chocolate?
Yeah.
I was giving my kids chocolatechips as like little incentives
when I couldn't pick her upafter my delivery.
(21:33):
This is not a big deal.
Well, like
Lindsay (21:34):
I've told you before too, I've had, I had a lot of
opinions about screen timebefore I even had kids.
And then I had kids and I waslike, this is not what I thought
it was everyone.
Jordan (21:42):
So yeah, we might get to that point and be like, Oh, we
are eating our words.
Yeah, I suspect you will.
So
Lindsay (21:48):
actively deciding as a family, to have a plan made when
your child is ready for apersonal device.
Obviously, these last fewtidbits when we're going to
cross when the time comes, butthese are great conversations to
have with your children, notjust like away from your
children.
These are great to incorporatethem and just get an idea of
what their understanding is ofscreen time.
(22:10):
Mhm.
Mhm.
Those were some tips to create afamily plan.
I think So the biggest thing Canyou
Jordan (22:15):
go over the tips again?
Lindsay (22:16):
Yep, real, real fast.
Just like the Familiarizingyourself with the program, age
appropriate.
Talking with your child aboutwhat they're seeing.
And, you know, pointing out goodbehavior.
Encouraging your child to learnother activities out, you know,
outside of screen time.
Setting a good example with yourown safe and healthy screening,
screen habits.
Yep.
(22:37):
Encouraging using screens inways that build creativity and
connection with family andfriends.
Yes.
So doing screen time with otherpeople.
That's
Jordan (22:44):
pretty big for us as a family who has close members
overseas.
Yes.
Like Adrienne's mom will oftenrecord like a little, not even
just FaceTime, but likerecording, she'll record little
videos of her reading books formy kids so that she has like a
little something she can, youknow, always get grandma telling
her a story.
Yeah.
(23:04):
Oh, that's so sweet.
So that's like an example.
Yep.
What you were talking
Lindsay (23:08):
about.
That I'm into.
And then this last one had, wasreally similar to age
appropriate, considering yourchild and your teen's maturity
and their habits.
Every child is different.
Every child has differentmaturity levels.
Every child has differenthabits.
And if you're, if you'reconcerned about your child's
screen time.
Best to call your pediatrician,family physician, kind of go
(23:29):
over the concerns.
Mood issues, sleep issues, lowergrades in school, reading fewer
physical books, less time withfamily and friends, like
isolating is a big thing.
So if these are huge concernsand you're seeing them often, I
would then like probably reachout and say, how could, how, how
is this going to negativelyaffect my child over time?
(23:51):
I think the biggest takeawayfrom screen time as a family is.
Parents being aware of how theirchild is reacting to screen
time.
And engaging with it.
Engaging with it, reacting toit.
How it's causing, if it iscausing sleep issues, if it is
causing tantrums at the end ofthe day.
All of that sort of thing.
Yeah.
Which, by the way, brings me toBluey.
(24:13):
Okay, yeah, let's hear this.
So, I have a few non stimulatingshows to recommend for parents
that are in the same stage oflife as Jordan and I.
Nice.
Non stimulating shows aredefined as slow paced, natural
colored tones.
There's not like unusual visualeffects, you know, like there's
(24:36):
no like weird psychedelicswirling shapes and flashing
colors and high contrastbackgrounds that keep And hold
the child's attention.
Um, but they also speak in anormal voice, rich vocabulary,
natural conversation.
You would think Bluey wouldfollow that.
However, Bluey is technically alow stimulating show.
(24:59):
It's not a non stimulating show.
Oh, it's a low.
Low stimulating.
But this is where I found thatwas really interesting to hear
is because it is actually reallyuplifting for parents.
That's so true.
That's
Jordan (25:14):
so true.
Lindsay (25:15):
So you might think as a parent, this is a great,
wonderful show.
It's so like heartfelt and nice.
Yeah.
My daughter has had moretantrums watching Bluey lately
because Peppa Pig isn'tavailable on Amazon Prime right
now.
It's on YouTube, dude.
I know.
Okay.
But we were watching it onAmazon Prime and we were
watching it on Netflix for along time and then we weren't
and then, We were just, we justswitched over to Bluey from
(25:37):
there.
Yeah.
Before going over to you.
Bluey's
Jordan (25:39):
definitely more stimulating than Peppa.
Peppa's like, I can take naps toPeppa Pig.
Lindsay (25:45):
Don't ask me how I know that.
But, um, there's been asignificant behavior difference
in the going from one show tothe other show.
Interesting.
Cause we didn't blend the shows.
She was really strictly.
On Peppa Pig for a long time.
She absolutely loved it.
And then we just switched toBluey and it's been very
(26:05):
different.
Interesting.
So there have been more tantrumslike at the end of her day.
I don't, and I don't know ifit's like just her going through
like a mental like leap.
It could be.
Yeah.
It, it could be, but I thoughtthat was very interesting about
the movie.
Jordan (26:21):
That is interesting.
I'm glad that it's at least lowstimulating because my kid does
love it and I actually love it.
Like as a parent, it's like myhusband, my husband, I don't
mind Peppa Pig.
Like I said, it's nice andchill.
And my kid likes it.
My husband does not like PeppaPig.
He thinks that it is Is it liketriggering?
Yeah, it is for him.
(26:42):
He says that it instills, thereare like lots of like underlying
British isms that he doesn'tfind to be particularly healthy
that are like Oh my gosh, Iwould love to pick
Lindsay (26:53):
his brain in a conversation about
Jordan (26:54):
it.
Yeah, it really makes him upset.
Which I think is so funny.
Cause as an American personwatching, you don't think that
at all.
No, my mother.
Things out.
I'm like, Oh yeah, no, that'strue.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Oh, I'd love to like, because Imean, and it's just a docile
show, so I'm sure it's a littlebit more high.
Right.
Yeah.
But it is kind of funny.
And Bluey is so sweet.
(27:15):
Like there, I've cried to blue,like a bunch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lindsay (27:20):
So we're just, we're just accepting Bluey as a low
stimulating good.
Quality show whether the Yeah,
Jordan (27:30):
I think I also even think like I I'm not necessarily
opposed to like low and mediumStimulating shows for my kid
even though she's really littleshe's just over two Yeah, cuz
she's not you're not forcing itthree hours on her.
No exactly like if it was We'renot using it as like background
noise If she watches like sheher two shows right now are
(27:50):
bluey and she really likesOctonauts That one I think is a
little bit more stimulating.
Okay And it is like a little, itis kind of educational.
It's a bunch of like underwateranimals going around and
checking out underwater seacreatures It's a little bit more
stimulating, but I never let herwatch more than one episode at a
time.
And it's not like before bed orbefore nap time.
So I don't feel that bad aboutit.
(28:11):
It's a good justification.
Lindsay (28:12):
Yeah.
There were some other shows.
I'm just going to quicklyrecommend.
Um, if you give a mouse acookie, You've heard of the
book?
Definitely.
Yeah, they have a show on AmazonPrime Non stimulating.
Really cute.
Trash Truck on Netflix.
Peppa Pig on Netflix, AmazonPrime, Apple TV, Hulu, YouTube,
Roku.
Kind of just like a lowstimulation.
Go and find out where if youdon't want to pay for it.
(28:33):
I pretty sure just go to YouTube
Jordan (28:34):
Yeah, there's so much peppa pig on YouTube
Lindsay (28:37):
llama llama.
I just recently found out thatwas a show.
Yeah It's the it's based off thebook.
Yeah so those are somerecommendations for non
stimulating shows for peoplethat are like in the same kind
of, uh, world as Jordan and Iright now, like two and under.
So yeah, love it.
Mm hmm.
That's a big.
(28:59):
Kind of short overtake on screentime.
Jordan (29:03):
Yeah, I like it.
I like hearing about therecommendations.
Yeah.
I really like the idea ofcreating like a plan with your
family.
Yes, yeah.
And with your partner inparticular at this stage of
parenting and then Being justaware of like how your kid is
reacting to all of it.
That's all good.
Yep.
Very cool, thank you.
You're welcome.
Um, I can pull us into a littlebit of a trending topic for
(29:25):
today.
Okay.
Uh huh.
Okay.
Okay.
Cool.
Alright.
So it's like we said, it'sThanksgiving week.
Yeah.
Which means everyone's like, youknow, thinking about
Thanksgiving, but it alsoprobably means you're thinking
about cringe, getting Christmas.
You know, all together, buyingChristmas presents, Black Friday
sales that are like BlackNovember.
(29:47):
They're like, yeah, what thehell, like everybody is
Lindsay (29:49):
starting early.
I know everyone's having tolike, my husband and I just went
from like, I swear last yearplanning Black Friday to now
being like, well, Black Fridaysare starting, the sales are
starting.
Let's just do it now.
Jordan (30:03):
Yeah.
It's weird.
It is weird, but I'm kind ofokay with it.
Yeah.
Like having it all just on, Imean, maybe it would be better
on one day.
I don't know.
I'm not thinking about, let'sjust not get into whether it's
good or not.
Let's just get into.
Lindsay (30:14):
Yeah.
Do you feel like, uh, since theelection, things have not come
down, like they probably shouldhave come down from the, from
the election we just had.
We just had a crazy electionhere in the United States and
the come down from it hasn'treally much come down for me at
all because the hype of theholidays is like, Throne in my
(30:34):
way.
You know
Jordan (30:34):
what?
I actually was reading anarticle that said that people
are getting ready for Christmasearlier and they're linking it
to the stress of the election.
And like the Christmas prepared,getting ready for Christmas is
helping people to like calm downfrom the election, actually, and
like cope with it.
I believe it.
Lindsay (30:49):
I have never considered buying Christmas trees before
Thanksgiving until now.
Jordan (30:55):
That's so funny.
Yeah.
My husband's very staunchlyopposed to pre December
Christmas trees.
So we're a December 1st to 3rdto 5th, maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
But yeah, so that's, yeah.
So everyone's thinking aboutgift buying.
Uh, and Lindsay was just tellingme yesterday that she's seeing
more gift guides online thanever before.
Lindsay (31:16):
My, I don't know if it's my algorithm, but my,
either my algorithm needs tochange or if it really is like
being thrown out the window.
heavily in everyone's direction.
Jordan (31:25):
I'm seeing a lot more this year than I have in the
past.
And it could also, I mean, we'reparents now, so they're probably
just trying to catch us.
Yeah,
Lindsay (31:32):
that's very true.
Jordan (31:33):
But yes.
So I want to talk about a giftguide, but this isn't like a S
this isn't the kind of guidewhere it just tells you which
gifts to buy.
Okay.
Cause I'm overwhelmed.
Those are too much.
This is a gift buying guide andit's kind of really cool.
So there's this chick on Tik TOKnamed Marin Lindley, I don't
actually use TikTok.
I found this on the oldfashioned interwebs, but, but I
(31:57):
really liked it.
So I wanted to share.
So basically what she says isthat there's like a formula you
can follow for buying gifts for,I'm going to say that this would
be kind of exclusively in myfamily, at least used for my
kids.
Okay.
You could obviously do this withwhoever you buy gifts for.
I'm just not like a huge giftperson.
I mean, I love buying gifts andI love giving gifts, I just, I'm
(32:18):
also like a bit of a minimalist,so I don't like buying a bunch
of shit that people aren't goingto use.
So I, yeah, so I'm kind of likea moderate gift giver, I guess
you could say, in terms ofquantity.
Lindsay (32:29):
I'm just going to throw in the fact that we not only
have holiday Christmas, I havethree birthdays thrown in the
mix.
Three.
You're toasted.
You're toasted.
I can't.
And so, my, my, we got, we gotthe first shipment of my
daughter's birthday andChristmas, cause her birthday
and Christmas is in the sameweek, mine's in the same week,
Andrew's is the following.
(32:50):
We got the first shipment ofChristmas and birthday gifts for
one of us.
And I don't know if I'm okaywith even buying my daughter a
Christmas gift.
Oh no.
From us.
Cause I'm like, she's gotenough, she's got enough for
just one person.
Yeah, too much shit everywhere.
(33:11):
Please, please carry on.
So this
Jordan (33:13):
is meant to simplify the process.
Now, there are, there are ninecategories here.
Uh, and I, I personally, I, Igot my kid, I think, Four or
five Christmas gifts for thisyear, and that's it like that's
where I'm at I know that stillsounds like probably a lot to a
lot of it feels like a lot to meYeah, this still feels like a
(33:33):
lot to me, but I'm just reallyexcited.
Yeah Yeah Little baby boy.
He's not gonna get probablyanything.
So yeah, he doesn't need stuff.
So here here we go I'm justgonna throw through the nine the
nine categories and if theyresonate with you cool go for it
If you if it's a category,they're like man Dump it.
Uh huh.
Not all of them are foreveryone.
(33:54):
You can tailor this to your ownpersonal desires I think the
first four are like a knownthing, right?
So it's the gift.
They want the gift.
They need a gift to wear and agift to read.
Yes.
I'd stopping there.
I love that.
It's great.
Like those four things.
That's awesome.
Yep.
Um, and then this Tik Tok userjust expounded and did like
another five categories.
So you can pick and choose fromthose ones.
But as a general guide, I lovethis.
(34:15):
So the gift they want isstraightforwardly just the gift
they want.
Yep.
That's easy.
The gift they need, also prettystraightforward.
Like, does your kid need a newpair of shoes?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Do they need, this is stockingstuffers for me.
This is a hundred percent, like,I, the stuff I get for stockings
is toothbrushes.
Yeah, like, yeah.
(34:36):
Yeah, yeah.
The stuff that you're gonna justhave to restock at some point.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah, knock it out.
Mm hmm.
Uh, a gift to wear.
So, you know, holiday PJs, ornew clothes, whatever.
Cute little fleece jacket.
Yeah.
And a gift to read, obviously, abook.
Books are always good gifts.
Lindsay (34:56):
Who doesn't want a beautiful book on their
bookshelf?
I want a
Jordan (34:58):
beautiful book.
Anywhere.
And I want to be able to read itat some point in my life.
Yeah, we'll get there.
We will.
I'm craving my books too.
Yeah, for sure.
Uh, yeah, gift to read, gettinga gift, getting a book for every
family member, I think that'llbe a good tradition for me.
Uh huh.
I'm into it.
Yeah.
Oh, you know what else I wasgoing to talk about right here
(35:20):
in this A Gift to Read categorythat I totally forgot about
until just now is I came acrossthe cutest idea.
So I, I am a bit of aminimalist, but books kind of
are a little bit of anexception.
Yeah.
My kid loves reading.
We go through like 10 books aday.
Yes.
Every day.
I'm so
Lindsay (35:35):
happy.
Our daughters love to read.
I know.
It makes me just so giddy thather favorite toy is a book.
I
Jordan (35:41):
know.
It's the best.
It's incredible.
It's the best.
So if your kid loves to read orif they don't, but you want to
read to them more.
This cute idea I came across onsocial media is this mom every
year has like a box of Christmasbooks and she reuses the same
books year, year after year.
You could probably, you know,refresh some and update them and
whatever.
but she does this 24 days ofChristmas thing.
I'm, I'm not into 24.
(36:03):
That's too many.
So I cut it down to the 12 daysof Christmas, but do whatever
works for you.
I even heard of 24
Lindsay (36:08):
days.
I've heard of 12.
Jordan (36:09):
Yeah.
It's like from December 1stuntil the 12th.
Christmas or whatever.
So she wraps, she wraps themlike gifts and it's like
delivery from the North Polecomes to the doorstep.
She pulls the crate of books inand every day it's like an, it's
their version of an adventcalendar.
The kid gets to open a presentand it's a Christmas book.
Lindsay (36:25):
That is so fun.
Super cute.
Cause then you can just havethat, you have your books for
the next year.
Totally.
And you'll do somethingdifferent next year.
Jordan (36:30):
And you can kind of get a couple more and you know.
Make them more age appropriate.
So we're doing that with 12 daysof Christmas.
I went to a local bookstore thatjust sells used books and got a
bunch of really cheap.
Cool.
I actually went beforeThanksgiving and asked if they
had boxes of Christmas booksthat weren't out yet.
So I got to like rummage throughbefore they put them out and the
good ones got snagged up.
Of course.
(36:51):
And then I just, I got caughtlike a couple new ones, but
mostly just some really cheapold ones.
And I'm really excited.
Oh, that's so fun.
So that's a good gift to readidea.
I love it The gift that they cannumber five category is the gift
they can experience So that'llbe for us that'll be like ski
days because that's actuallysomething I can do for free Yes,
(37:12):
somebody who works at a skiresort.
Oh, yeah, very fortunate
Lindsay (37:16):
did my this would have been my first year year had I
still be working at that resortit would have been the first
year for me to pass out free skipasses to family.
My husband's so bummed.
Bummer.
Dang.
Yeah, I've been getting thosefor a long time.
He's so bummed.
Oh, that sucks.
So we're, we'll have to just getour, like, uh, pay for our way a
(37:41):
couple days this winter.
Jordan (37:42):
It's a bite in the butt, dude.
Yeah.
Ski passes are crazy expensive.
Honestly, they're expensiveenough that I want to just keep
one day a week.
There, or one day a month there.
Yes, forever.
Indefinitely.
Yeah, really.
No, truly.
Because it is cool.
Like, that's something I'mexcited to do with my kid.
But, you know, it could beanything.
It could be going out to themovies.
It could be, like, going to thezoo.
(38:04):
It could be,
Lindsay (38:04):
like,
Jordan (38:05):
a beach day.
If you live close to the beach.
A mountain day.
If you live close to themountains.
Experience.
I
Lindsay (38:11):
didn't remember if you said experience or adventure.
But experience.
Jordan (38:14):
Yes.
It could be, like, a littlecamping trip.
Yes.
For us, a little trip to thedesert.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Something.
Go take, go to the rock climbinggym, everybody.
Go take your kids to a climbinggym.
Kids love climbing gyms.
There are things, yeah, they'renot too crazy expensive.
And you can get Groupons forlots of this stuff.
Groupon if you're on a budget.
Groupon used to be such a hotplace to go and I forgot about
(38:36):
it.
Yeah, when we go to the climbinggym, like me and my husband, we
will eventually have passesagain, but we don't.
While we only have a limitedamount of time pop on Groupon,
you can pass for like$8.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
It's so good.
Mm-Hmm, Yeah.
Or like trip to the rec center,whatever.
I'm gonna put
Lindsay (38:51):
that, I'm adding these to my, uh, little note here.
And I'm gonna put Groupon for agift experience.
Good.
Glad I could be of service toyou, Lindsay.
And you did 12 Days ofChristmas.
Jordan (39:05):
I love it.
That's funny.
Okay, so the next one is a giftthey can do.
This one I'm kind of like mixedabout.
This could like be part of, theyoverlap a little bit.
So this is like a craft andactivity Lego set even would
count as this kind of.
Sure.
Yeah.
You could incorporate that
Lindsay (39:22):
into your next future, in your future 12 Days of
Christmas.
How so your Lego, like get themlike a little Lego set.
Oh.
And do like a Lego 12 days ofChristmas.
No, no, no.
Um, so you're doing books thisyear?
Oh yeah.
Next if you change it Oh, andanother you do something else.
Yeah.
Like this.
Yeah.
Jordan (39:38):
Incorporate this.
Like, that's a clever idea.
I like that.
Or like, you know, you could onone of the days instead of a
book psych, it's like a little,yeah, that'd be exciting.
I don't have a bad idea.
Yeah.
Cool.
Okay.
Um, the number seven category isa gift to help them learn that
one doesn't need explaining.
That's great.
(39:59):
And then number eight is a giftto snuggle with.
That could be like a littleplushy or yeah, blanket or
whatever.
That one I'm kind of like mehabout, but it's probably because
my kid just does not give a shitabout stuffed animals.
So, mine doesn't really care tohave him in the crib either.
No, I'm talking about ingeneral.
Really?
She doesn't care.
She, like, she likes her, shelikes the one bunny she has in
(40:20):
the crib.
Our puppy, you're right,
Lindsay (40:22):
our puppy enjoys the stuffies way more.
I
Jordan (40:24):
bet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I don't really care as muchabout that one, but you know, do
it, do it, do what you want.
Um, and then the ninth one Ireally like, and that's a gift
to share.
We always did like a family giftgrowing up and I think that's a
really cool idea and a good wayto get everyone together.
Like I remember, and it doesn'thave to be anything crazy, one
year we got a Bop It.
(40:45):
And that thing,
Lindsay (40:47):
oh my gosh, that was so cool.
The best, right?
I like kind of want one rightnow.
And Skipbo.
Bop It and
Jordan (40:52):
Skipbo.
But yeah, there's some greatinexpensive, but really fun and
engaging and like connectingfamily gifts out there.
Share with neighbor kids.
Yeah.
Share
Lindsay (41:03):
with your family.
Totally.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
And could you incorporate this,like you guys, um, last year,
was it last year or the yearbefore you made cookies for the
neighborhood?
Oh, I do that every year.
Is that kind of like, is thatkind of like this too?
You like.
Yeah, totally.
You could incorporate your kids,like, making.
Yeah, a gift to share.
Yeah,
Jordan (41:17):
for sure.
Yeah, I mean, we give those outbefore Christmas, but this
doesn't have to be all onChristmas, I guess.
Yeah, we totally love doingthat.
And I can't wait, I never eventhought about.
Including my kids and making theholiday treats for the
neighbors.
I can't wait to do that.
Lindsay (41:33):
Yeah.
I pulled out the, cookiecutters, um, they're just like
in a big Ziploc bag and bottomof course you have tucked away.
I don't even know why I havethem.
Jordan (41:43):
I'm not surprised.
Lindsay (41:45):
Cause I have never made gingerbread men in my life.
I've never made star cookies.
I don't know if I like collectedthem.
Okay.
Are there restaurants I'veworked at over the years?
Cookie, I've never seen a cookiecutter.
Well, the restaurant, theEuropean restaurant I worked at
in Minnesota was like, Hotcookie cutters.
She owned a bakery in town andowned.
Jordan (42:05):
Yeah, okay.
Lindsay (42:06):
Interesting.
Oh gosh, I don't know, butanyways, I pulled out the
Christmas ones and my daughterloves playing with them right
now in the kitchen.
Cute.
Stars, and don't step on themthough.
Don't step on them.
No, they hurt.
Yeah, I don't like that.
They
Jordan (42:19):
hurt so
Lindsay (42:19):
bad.
I bet.
Jordan (42:22):
Oh, that's the stage of parenting we're at for now until
eternity, I think.
Oh dear.
Yeah, anyway, so that's the giftguide.
Okay, I love this.
So I'll just, I'll brush up overthem one more time in case
anyone wants to.
Yeah.
Gift they want, gift they need,gift to wear, gift to read, gift
to experience, gift that you cando.
Gift to help them learn, tosnuggle with, and to share.
(42:44):
I love this.
If you have any other ideas,throw them our way.
This is the gift guide that weneed.
Yeah.
Simplifies things.
Covers your bases.
And then, you know, you can pickthe categories that are valuable
to you and your family and youcan omit the rest and you always
have like a basic little thingto follow and that mental load
gets too crazy.
(43:05):
And when the freaking, Theadvertisements come at you or
you're at the stores and you'relike, this looks really cool.
My kid would love that.
You know, you don't gooverboard.
I feel like this is the firstyear I've ever been like, Oh my
God, it's so easy to go way toooverboard.
I used to love buying a bunch ofgifts for my husband, but like
those are things I know he'sgoing to like want and engage
with and whatever.
Yeah.
And it's not just going tocreate piles of shit in my
(43:26):
house.
Yes.
In the way that this does.
Right.
Lindsay (43:28):
You know?
Right.
God.
Yeah.
Thank you, thank you, thank youfor this gift guide because,
yeah, I'm overwhelmed withwhat's being thrown at me on my
phone.
Yeah.
I don't even mean like trying tolike look at this.
Yeah.
And look at these gift guidesand, I mean, people are probably
wondering what our gift guideis, if we could put one out, but
this is it.
This is it.
And you know what else is
Jordan (43:49):
cool about this that I kind of did is, you can like,
you know, have your familymembers who you know are going
to buy gifts for your kids ifyou have some.
give them this list and say,here, pick one of these
categories and get somethingfrom that.
And then your base is covered.
Lindsay (44:01):
I sent my mom a selection of items and she got
all of them.
And I was like, why did you, youdid not have to do all of them.
Jordan (44:09):
Yeah, no, I'm very clear with, with my, I, with my mom.
Not so much with like my inlaws.
They, they're good at giftgiving.
They don't go over the top.
So I'm grateful for that.
Lindsay (44:19):
Cool, cool, cool.
Yeah.
Anyway, um, I'm just going torecommend something real quick.
So my recommendation.
It's coming at you reallyrandom.
I love
Jordan (44:28):
a, I love a random recommendation.
Lindsay (44:30):
The good to grow juice bottles.
Oh.
Are incredible.
What is that?
I've never heard of that.
It's the little, it's the littlejuice bottles with the character
on top.
I'm checking this out.
You got this at Fur Vivi.
Oh, at Target.
Jordan (44:47):
Didn't you dump the juice out?
I do.
But the bottles are
Lindsay (44:51):
incredible.
They do not leak.
They will not leak.
We have tried so many, I mean,enough in my mind.
Not so many, but enough in mymind.
Different cups.
For sippy cups, for milk cups,for water, for, you know, those
drinks, any time of the day.
And they always bring it.
(45:12):
Freaking leak.
Jordan (45:13):
Yeah, they do.
There's there's
Lindsay (45:14):
just no going around it and these won't
Jordan (45:17):
that's cool because they're not that expensive No, I
think they're like and they havelittle figures.
So the good to get these littlebottles have yeah, you know
character figurines Yeah, likethe mouthpiece.
Lindsay (45:27):
Yeah, well Peppa Pig head.
Yeah, whatever.
Yeah character we have right nowat our house like a dinosaur, we
have Poppy the troll, we havePeppa Pig, and we have like a
cat with like funny goggles onit or something.
You can get them at like Target.
Yeah.
Like in the juice section.
And they're reusable, so this iswhere I'm just going to come in
(45:49):
as a granola mom.
I will like buy it at the storeand I will proceed to the
garbage or the fountain and dumpout the juice and fill it with
water, She doesn't have juice.
She doesn't need juice.
Yeah, unless she's like severelyconstipated then I have to dip
dap into apple juice and thatsort of thing, but they're great
juice bottles.
They never spill.
(46:10):
They're have really funcharacters.
They're great on the go Sheplays with it in the car seat.
She talks to it that's a goodstocking stuffer.
That
Jordan (46:18):
is a
Lindsay (46:18):
good,
Jordan (46:18):
actually that is a great stuffer.
I love that idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how about it?
Cool.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Sweet.
Well, that's everything for
Lindsay (46:26):
today.
I think our next episode, we'regoing to talk about Christmassy
things, right?
Jordan (46:30):
Yeah.
Get prepped for that holidayepisode.
It's a big holiday in thisworld.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
It'll be fun.
It will be fun.
I love Christmas.
I do too.
I really do.
It's so nice that there's likesomething warm and cozy and
festive to do in the middle ofan otherwise dreary winter.
Lindsay (46:49):
I wish
Jordan (46:50):
it
Lindsay (46:50):
went beyond December.
Jordan (46:51):
I know, I kind of wish it was like at the end of
January.
Lindsay (46:54):
Yeah.
Yeah.
January
Jordan (46:56):
is a long dreary month.
And February, dude, February isrough.
This year, I think it'll begreat though.
You're gonna have a baby.
I
Lindsay (47:07):
hope.
I'm due February 6th, we'll see.
I thought it was 7th.
No, February 6th.
But was it 7th at the beginning?
According to my cycle, my um,you know, my whole womanly
cycle, Yeah.
It's February 6th.
6th, but I'm measuring February7th.
So we'll see.
Jordan (47:24):
Let's hope for January 24th.
Let's just make
Lindsay (47:29):
the month of January feel a little bit shorter.
I would not mind, but, butironically, my husband and I, we
met on Tinder and we met inperson.
I flew out to Hawaii to meet himin person.
He lived there at the time onFebruary 2nd.
Oh, really?
And so we thought, let's makethis circle full and have our
(47:51):
baby, baby arrive on February2nd.
Come on, baby.
We'll see.
We'll see.
We'll see.
That's cute.
Yeah.
Mine
Jordan (47:58):
came super duper early.
Yeah.
More about that later.
Yep.
Yeah.
Well, not super
Lindsay (48:04):
duper.
Jordan (48:04):
It was like two weeks really.
He was full term.
Yeah.
It wasn't scary.
Lindsay (48:07):
I just knew that when you were going to be done with
working, I was like, hi, I bethe's going to arrive.
Jordan (48:11):
You were right.
Full time.
I did not get a break from workduring that last year.
It's like your body just finallyrelaxed and he's like, fuck,
yeah, I can come out now.
Yeah.
Thank God for that.
It is, I have to say, it is niceto not be pregnant.
I am super happy to never, everbe pregnant again.
There you go.
Oh, it's such a good, I mean,yeah.
(48:31):
Yeah.
Being pregnant is beautiful,but, damn.
Lindsay (48:33):
Oh, I got my plan ready to go.
Eight weeks postpartum, I amhopefully having my tubal
ligation done.
I got my plan.
Hopefully my plan goes through.
Cheers to
Jordan (48:43):
a tubal ligation, everyone.
And with that, I hope you have ahappy holiday season.
Or whatever time of year you'relistening to this.
If it's later, yeah.
Go enjoy yourself.
Cool.
Alright.
Cool, we'll talk to you nexttime.
See you later.
Bye.
Bye.
Do I throw a TV on when I want to teach my kids
(00:01):
something?
No, I throw the TV on when Ineed to get some shit done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah Yeah, or if you're doinglike
Lindsay (00:09):
a task that could be unsafe for her to join in with
you Exactly, whatever right?
Yeah.
Jordan (00:13):
Yep.
Hi.
Hello.
Lindsay (00:21):
Hello.
Hi.
How's it going?
Happy Sunday.
Happy Sunday.
Woohoo.
Yeah, we're approaching
Jordan (00:28):
December.
We're getting clo.
It's like, yeah, Thanksgivingweek here.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Happy
Lindsay (00:33):
Thanksgiving
Jordan (00:34):
week.
Thanks.
I'm not making Thanksgivingdinner, so I'm feeling good
about About my week.
Yeah.
We haven't
Lindsay (00:40):
recorded since you've had your baby.
We haven't.
Jordan (00:43):
No.
Yeah, I've got big Comfy.
Yeah.
I'm not the one sitting here.
Pregnant and uncomfortable.
at the recording table.
Yes, I am now
Lindsay (00:52):
in my third trimester and it's getting uncomfy.
Like, the moment I switched overto third, I feel like I'm
growing and I'm more uncomfy atnight.
The emotional tears arehappening sometimes at the end
of the day.
Jordan (01:08):
It's a lot.
So
Lindsay (01:11):
I'm in third trimester.
Jordan has her baby.
A lot of things are going on.
Jordan (01:14):
Yeah, we're staying busy.
We're staying busy and God,we're staying tired.
I know you're dealing with a lotof insomnia.
And I am obviously up threenights, three days, three times,
uh huh.
Yeah.
I can't even speak.
My mom,
Lindsay (01:31):
my pregnancy brain came in like a month ago.
It did it?
It's been about a month.
I was in Minnesota in Octoberand I remember Not having the
word or sentence for somethingand I said, oh boy, it's back
And it's been back like full on.
So Jordan and I have been MarcoPing each other and we both have
(01:54):
this like pregnancies, parades.
We like two minutes breaks ofsilence.
Yeah.
So the la But I will just saythe last Margo Polo, you were
talking about not havingclothes.
And you were like, you werelike, you were talking, telling
me that you didn't have clothesto wear.
Yeah.
It's a postpartum or just likegoing out casual dinner or
(02:16):
whatever.
Yeah.
And then you saw the mountainsand you were distracted by all
the snow in the mountains andthen you got back on and you're
like, I have no clue what I waseven talking
Jordan (02:22):
about.
I was like trying to rememberand then I just ended the Marco
Polo.
I was like, I can't, I can'tthink about what it is.
So I'll We were just talkingabout clothes.
Lindsay (02:32):
Oh,
Jordan (02:33):
that's too funny.
Yeah, I'm having a bit of aclothing crisis at like the
thing that struck me one of themany things that struck me the
first time I had a kid wasYou're like when you're pregnant
you're like I would kill to weara t shirt.
I just like want to wear my tshirts, you know?
Like, I'm a t shirt girl.
that's all I want to do is justlike wear my t shirt or
whatever.
You know, like you miss all yourclothes and you're so stoked to
give birth because you're like,oh, get all my clothes back.
(02:55):
And then, boom, you don't getyour clothes back.
Yeah, your boobs are huge.
And then if you'rebreastfeeding, like
everything's, I'm basicallyrock, well, like never wearing a
shirt at home.
Lindsay (03:04):
I went to Mexico three months postpartum from my first
daughter and I was just, mybreasts were already large and
in charge and I thought it wasgonna be fine.
No, I had to go buy a bigger toppostpartum for Mexico.
Yeah.
Just when you think you're
Jordan (03:21):
done with that shit, you're not.
Psych.
You don't get
Lindsay (03:24):
your clothes back yet.
Don't be silly.
No.
I'll be, uh, so I was like,First trimester all summer and
I'm comfy and in biker shortsand like oversized t shirts and
tank tops I'll probably be theexact same clothes next summer
Yeah.
Postpartum.
Yeah.
Almost certainly.
Yeah.
So.
At least
Jordan (03:42):
summer's a nice time.
I'm like, I could wear theselike sweaters and then my jeans
aren't fitting like quite right.
I'm just like, gosh.
Yeah.
It's all good if I'm wearing mysweatpants and bra at home.
Lindsay (03:53):
Weren't we going to plan on having like a bra
burning party?
God, can we?
I told Andrew, I said, I want tobuy it.
I want to like extend it and domy clothing.
Like the shirt, the shirt hasbeen through everything.
It's
Jordan (04:07):
cute.
First birth and well,
Lindsay (04:10):
yeah, we're both wearing like Henleys, waffly
Henleys that are just, you havemilk on that.
I have like, this thing is likeragged.
You can practically see throughit.
So we're not
Jordan (04:23):
recording
Lindsay (04:23):
any video today.
Jordan (04:24):
So it's all good.
Anyway, how are you?
Lindsay (04:31):
I'm really trying to find like the good in every
single day right now.
Uh,
Jordan (04:35):
yep.
Lindsay (04:35):
Yeah.
Jordan (04:36):
It's sunny now.
It was full of shade thismorning.
It's sunny now.
So there you go.
That's good.
Well, should we get after it?
We've got Yeah.
We've got a big topic today.
It's a fun one.
Lindsay (04:47):
We're talking about screen time today.
We are.
And this is quite the topic.
Jordan (04:54):
It's a good one right now for me as a person with a
newborn and a toddler.
We've definitely been using alittle bit more screen time.
Bye.
Hey, so she's two years old.
Lindsay (05:04):
So according to everybody on the web for
researchy stuff, I looked up,she's fine.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure she's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's
Jordan (05:14):
listening now.
It's two.
You're good.
The amount of time.
Yeah, I know.
Okay.
Lindsay (05:20):
Yeah.
Um, so screen time.
is ever changing.
This research is ever changing.
I looked at stuff that waswritten back in 2020 and that's
when COVID really changed thingsfor our children.
I went with the most recent thatI could find.
Jordan (05:36):
That's and yeah, yeah, I think so.
Lindsay (05:41):
It was really interesting though.
Comparing the two.
Cause I was like, wow.
I mean, 2020 and post 20.
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, it was, it was wild.
And I was like, man, I wonder ifit's going to change like this
much every single year, every,every few years.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I wonder.
So screen time is a huge topic.
It's very opinionated.
obviously with it being involvedin all of our lives, this is
(06:06):
something that can just be lookvery different for every single
home.
Truly.
Jordan (06:12):
Oh, you're dying.
Lindsay (06:16):
Okay.
Do I need the birth ball?
I just, I just need, I don'tknow.
Cause if I sit hips down lower,that might bring baby up.
I don't know.
That's true.
I don't know.
I think the baby's likeimplanted up higher in my uterus
or something.
That's why it's just like Thatmade
Jordan (06:29):
me feel like my stomach just turned when you said that.
Wow.
Those kicks to the, like, lungsand stomach.
Lindsay (06:37):
Yeah, I feel like I can tell the baby's getting bigger
because I, head, head isn't downyet, but like I can feel further
on my sides.
Interesting.
Jordan (06:46):
You're definitely looking bigger.
So yeah.
Thank you for getting there.
You
Lindsay (06:52):
are still no stretch marks yet.
That's great.
I don't know.
I just like, I'm very, veryitchy.
So I got really itchy too.
I'm like lotion, lotion, lotion.
Yeah.
Oh, the homemade lotion that Imake.
Do you need more of that?
I actually do.
I, cause I'm putting an order infor more or buying more of the
stuff.
Yeah.
(07:12):
I just
Jordan (07:12):
put coconut oil on my.
Shopping list for Costco to makesome more.
I have some jojoba oil itLindsay makes great lotion
Lindsay (07:20):
Yeah, I do.
I've made it since I wassophomore year college.
Yeah,
Jordan (07:25):
I made some for all my family for Christmas last year
It was a big hit cool.
We'll post the
Lindsay (07:30):
recipes Yeah, if you want it It's really good shit,
though.
I love it.
I don't think I'll ever go back.
Okay, so screen time.
Jordan (07:41):
Screen time is what we are talking about.
Yes.
Lindsay (07:45):
Okay, so, maybe a lot of parents are like trying to
figure out how much screen timeis appropriate, you might just
be going to Google and beinglike screen time for kids
guidelines.
I did look further beyond thatfor this topic, obviously.
So I'll just give you like therundown of the quick, like
Google search.
I did The American Academy ofPediatrics was like hardcore
(08:07):
guidelines.
First and foremost they're gonnatell you under two years old The
American Academy of Pediatricsrecommends no screen time at all
Under two.
And the C.
D.
C recommends not using mediawith children under two at all
Jordan (08:21):
media.
Yeah, like that.
Does that include just likemusic on Spotify?
Right.
Because that's crazy.
Lindsay (08:27):
I had me, I had Spotify playlist going for her in the
car.
Yeah, dude.
My kid was dancing to musicunder two.
I don't know about that exactly.
And then it, the next one islike the next age gap.
Gap is two to five years old.
And that was limit the noneducational screen time to about
one hour per weekday, and threehours on weekends.
(08:49):
6 and older, encourage healthyhabits and limit screen time.
The American Academy ofPediatrics recommends limiting
the entertainment screen time to2 hours a day for children's 3
to 18.
It's crazy to
Jordan (09:00):
me that it goes from 0 hour, like 0, none at all, until
age 2, and then it's an hour aday.
Yeah.
Like, ol jump.
Right, why wouldn't you justlike ease your way into it?
Right.
If you, Or just not even I meanfor us.
Yeah,
Lindsay (09:14):
but then like think about to like two hours a day
for three to 18 years old.
I That's a lot of screen time.
All the kids in my neighborhoodare in school these days on
screens
Jordan (09:26):
in schools right now.
Yes
Lindsay (09:28):
Yeah, since since Cove it I mean that was more than two
hours a day So, this is all veryinteresting.
Oh, well, yeah, like,interestingly, if they're doing
school all the time here.
Yeah, so, so to have such a big,like, children, adolescent age
group, 3 to 18, wowza.
Yeah, that's a big spam.
I mean, 18 year olds are going,some 18 year olds are going to
(09:49):
college even as well.
I don't know.
This was, this was quiteinteresting, so.
Good point.
I'll be moving on furtherbecause I just wanted to start
with this.
Because I was like, hell to theno, that doesn't even seem like
realistic, the American Academyof Pediatrics did give some
considerations that you couldconsider in your home, in your
family.
Turn off screens during familymeals and outings.
(10:13):
Is that you're like, figure outa plan first for your family.
Like, cause family meals couldbe, family meals and outings
could be going out to dinner.
What if you flew in on yourvacation and you only had like
an hour and a half to get to arestaurant to eat something and
your kid was wild or, and youwere just like overstimulated.
What you just have no idea.
(10:35):
So to say turn off screensduring that time, I don't know.
Like it just, really depends onlike what's going on in
someone's day.
I think in general it's probablya good idea to
Jordan (10:43):
like turn off screens while you're at like the dinner
table.
Yes, like during a normal day today.
I mean that's what I was talkingabout.
Lindsay (10:50):
That's what I'm, yeah, so the problem I kind of have
with these first Considerationsand bullet points is they're
kind of vague.
They're not very specific Yeah,so I always question like
everything like what you'requestioning right now Like
obviously if we're at home, wewouldn't have our screens on or
TV on So I agree with that, butthey just say it's during during
(11:15):
the day Family meals andoutings.
Well, not every family meal andouting is going to be the same.
Yeah, yeah.
That's true.
I will say, it also says removescreens from bedrooms 30 to 60
minutes before bedtime.
We absolutely do that.
Her daughter is busy girly fromdinner to bedtime, where we're
not.
Jordan (11:35):
Yeah, that's my kid's hyper phase.
We're like throwing her onto thebed and making her run up and
Yeah.
Lindsay (11:42):
Um, let's see, another one was consider using screen
time as a reward system.
Jordan (11:48):
Hmm.
That probably has mixed, uh,that's a controversial one.
Lindsay (11:52):
These are considerations that were pretty
vague and, um, and now we'rejust going to kind of move on to
like what works best forfamilies and how you can make
your own like family plan.
Yeah.
Cool.
For what works best for you.
This is where I headed on overto the American Academy of Child
and Adolescent Psychiatry.
(12:12):
This was like one of the mostrecent research articles I came
across, and it came fromsignificantly reliable resource
in my opinion.
and it just kind of goes overthat, like, you know, managing a
child's screen time ischallenging for families.
For sure.
Whether the kids are.
Figuring out how to manage theirscreen time in school, at
daycare, at home, what's goingon in your home life, what's
(12:36):
going on on a weekly basis inyour home.
It can be challenging foranyone, any family.
So your child is never too youngto have that screen time plan.
Jordan (12:46):
Yeah,
Lindsay (12:47):
that's fair.
I mean, you guys are doing likeessentially like a plan right
now.
Yeah, we
Jordan (12:51):
pretty much do.
Yeah, like it's not like awritten out and stamped plan,
but I have like a general ideaof what I'm comfortable with in
my head.
And we don't really stray fromthat.
Right, yeah, so I think it's,it's interesting that there's
like a pre COVID and a postCOVID, like, discrepancy between
those two time periods.
The, the one like piece of, Ican't really call it research,
(13:13):
but the little bit of exposureto like guidelines about TV and
screen time that I've had, Iread in a book called Cribsheet
by Emily Oster.
Um, this is a highly recommendedbook for new parents.
Yeah, totally.
She wrote, a pregnancy one toothat I, that I listened to that
was really good.
It was expecting better.
she's a data analyst.
We've talked about her before onhere.
(13:34):
I don't remember.
She's
Lindsay (13:35):
very reassuring when it comes to, if you're finding
yourself like in the throws andlike confusion of all the
opinions.
Jordan (13:41):
Totally.
Cause she, yeah, she comesthrough the data and lays it out
really straight.
I totally appreciate the workshe's doing in her book crib.
She talks about the, theresearch that exists.
you know, in this whole screentime and kids realm.
And basically her conclusion wasthat the research that has been
done hasn't necessarily beengreat.
This was published in 2019 justfor the record, like maybe
(14:04):
there's better research now, butbasically she said like her main
points of that of the chapterabout TV use was children under
two.
Don't really learn from TV nowObviously like there are a lot
of reasons why you might use TVlike I don't that's really like
90 percent of the time when Iplay Put something on and our
(14:25):
screen time's not crazy.
She probably gets like 30minutes a day, three days a
week, maybe up to like threehours a week maximum right now
with me or not right now, butlike when my baby was very first
born and she was struggling whenI was feeding him and stuff.
Maybe three hours max.
We're privileged.
I'm home all day on maternityleave, so it's easier for me.
(14:46):
But yeah, I don't do it to teachher anything.
Like, it is good to chooseprograms that maybe do art
teaching and maybe lessstimulating.
But yeah, so under two, theycan't really learn much, but
they definitely engage.
Like, my kid engaged in MissRachel when she was like, nine
months plus.
Dang, dude.
Miss Rachel was our savior.
(15:07):
On like, road trips?
Are you kidding me?
When you went
Lindsay (15:10):
to Europe, I remember that was a huge thing for you.
Yeah.
when we traveled, She was undera year old.
That was huge for us too.
And she
Jordan (15:18):
loves her.
Yeah.
Like, so don't be saying youcan't.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like sometimes as a parent, yougot to use those like crutches
when you need them.
Yeah.
That's all I'm going to sayabout that.
Anyway.
So yes, children under two can'treally learn from TVs.
She, she doesn't say theyshouldn't watch it as a result.
She's just saying that theresearch says.
(15:38):
They're not learning anything,really.
Children from three to fiveactually do learn from TV,
including vocabulary.
And she said that there was, alot of research that said,
actually, like, kids who watchedmore TV If anything had slightly
better test scores and schoolreadiness than kids who didn't
it like even that research was alittle bit wobbly, but there was
(15:58):
paper done that said that waslike trying to just like show
that TV was detrimental.
And this was like kids watchingthree hours or more a day, which
was wild.
But their test scores weren'tnegatively impacted in that
particular set of research, sothat was interesting.
I don't think I could handle theTV being on for three hours a
day, but, but I get it.
(16:19):
Anyway, so yeah, so.
3 to 5, you can learn stuff.
It might be a good idea to try,like, you know, vet the programs
that you're putting on for yourkid and choose ones that are
more educational or whatever.
Yeah, yeah,
Lindsay (16:30):
yeah.
Jordan (16:31):
But yeah, I don't know.
Lindsay (16:32):
And like, finding like, the apps on your phone that
Jordan (16:34):
are educational.
Right, yeah, I haven't evengotten into like, screen time
for like iPods and games andphones.
Lindsay (16:40):
I did come across, this research paper that I, or that I
read up on did say to choose atelevision or computer because
it is further away from theireyes.
Oh yeah,
Jordan (16:49):
that makes sense.
Lindsay (16:50):
Um, so first like the phone or the iPad.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, so basically I, I loved thatyou threw in Emily Oster a
little bit cause she's, she'ssuch a good resource.
Yeah.
She's great.
She's really, I love her.
Yeah, I hope she continues.
Her path of research.
Yeah, because she's
Jordan (17:08):
just in a great spot.
She's like right in front of us.
Yes, basically.
Yeah, it's nice.
Yeah.
Lindsay (17:14):
So continuing on with, the American Academy of Child
and Adolescent Psychiatry tipsto, kind of get you started on
making a plan for yourself andyour family.
first point that they put out isfamiliar yourself with the
program to make sure it's ageappropriate.
for us right now, that lookslike non stimulating shows.
Something she can, like, laughwith.
(17:34):
Interact with.
Understand.
We're watching Peppa Pig.
Okay.
and Bluey right now.
Those are like top two shows.
And then if you're, if you'replanning on being in front of
the TV with your child as well.
I don't know if that looks likefor you guys right now, if
you're feeding your son andshe's got any with a TV on and
she's watching TV, I don't know,but talking to your child about
what they see, point out goodbehaviors such as cooperation,
(17:56):
friendship, concern for others,making the connections.
Um, with like meaningful eventsthat are going on in the show,
location, places of interest,kind of just like being like,
yeah, look at it.
Peppa pig is walking up the hillto her house.
And I don't know, just kind ofpointing out interesting stuff
for them to kind of make thateducational connection.
(18:17):
obviously encouraging your childto learn other activities such
as sports, music, art, andhobbies that do not involve
screens.
This is, how we balance outsidetime versus inside time.
Yeah.
So we head outside to balancethat.
We play, we do, we do crafttime.
We do a lot of balancing forhaving her learn other
activities than just beingscreen time every single day for
(18:40):
a certain amount of time.
Um, set good example with yourown safe and healthy screen
habits.
Yeah.
That's one that I'm trying toinstill in us.
I think all of us are.
Yeah.
Bye.
It's really hard.
I do a lot of stuff on my phone.
Yeah.
Grocery shopping.
All the shopping is done on myphone.
Yeah.
Insta, like Instacart, Amazon,grocery.
(19:00):
And I have to set that timeaside.
But if I think of something thatneeds to go on the list, my
phone immediately comes out sothat I can put it in there.
Whether I'm interacting with herin the middle of something or
not, she sees that.
and then that's when she asks tobe on the phone and look at
photos too.
So I think this is going to be aforever thing.
It was just like really beingaware of yourself and like, What
(19:21):
it could look like.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like as a fly on the wallsituation.
Yeah,
Jordan (19:25):
me and my husband are talking about dedicating chunks
of time in the day to put ourphones like in a totally
different spot.
Like a little basket orsomething.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Cause if we start that now, thenwhen the kids eventually have
phones when they're older andYeah, we could do that.
We ask them to do that, it won'tbe like what the hell you guys
have been on your phones all dayeveryday since we were Yeah.
(19:45):
Tiny.
Lindsay (19:46):
Yeah.
So that's a big one that we'llalways be working on, too.
Yeah.
Another tip was to encourageusing screens in ways that build
creativity and connection withfamily and friends.
Consider your child or teen'smaturity and habits.
I guess this would be the sameas like, age appropriate.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah.
And just like, watch whatthey're doing.
(20:07):
I mean, obviously there's Right.
Right.
You and I are going to crossthese tips later on in life, but
being aware of advertising andhow it influences choices,
teaching children about onlineprivacy and safety, actively
deciding when your child isready for a personal device.
We've, we have a lot of neighborfriends, we have a great
(20:28):
neighborhood, everyone's gotkids and I mean, I think my
daughter is like the young,youngest and then the oldest of
all the kids in the neighborhoodis kind of.
I think a junior in high schoolor junior or senior.
So big range.
And we're kind of all talkingabout like, when did your kids
get it?
When did your kids get theirphone?
When did your kids, young islike six.
(20:50):
What?
And then a lot of common oneswere like 11 to 13.
What the hell dude?
That's crazy.
And then 13, I can start to seeit.
Yeah.
Jordan (21:02):
Yeah, but I don't want my kids like having like
Instagram or whatever.
It's TikTok, whatever socialmedia looks like when they're 13
on their phones.
Lindsay (21:10):
Yeah,
Jordan (21:11):
I mean, this is one of those things, like, when, you
know, before we were pregnant,you're like, Oh, I'm never gonna
let my kid watch TV or havesugar or whatever the thing is,
you know, and then you get inthe moment, you're like, I can't
pick you up to take you insidethe house.
Do you want some chocolate?
Yeah.
I was giving my kids chocolatechips as like little incentives
when I couldn't pick her upafter my delivery.
(21:33):
This is not a big deal.
Well, like
Lindsay (21:34):
I've told you before too, I've had, I had a lot of
opinions about screen timebefore I even had kids.
And then I had kids and I waslike, this is not what I thought
it was everyone.
Jordan (21:42):
So yeah, we might get to that point and be like, Oh, we
are eating our words.
Yeah, I suspect you will.
So
Lindsay (21:48):
actively deciding as a family, to have a plan made when
your child is ready for apersonal device.
Obviously, these last fewtidbits when we're going to
cross when the time comes, butthese are great conversations to
have with your children, notjust like away from your
children.
These are great to incorporatethem and just get an idea of
what their understanding is ofscreen time.
(22:10):
Mhm.
Mhm.
Those were some tips to create afamily plan.
I think So the biggest thing Canyou
Jordan (22:15):
go over the tips again?
Lindsay (22:16):
Yep, real, real fast.
Just like the Familiarizingyourself with the program, age
appropriate.
Talking with your child aboutwhat they're seeing.
And, you know, pointing out goodbehavior.
Encouraging your child to learnother activities out, you know,
outside of screen time.
Setting a good example with yourown safe and healthy screening,
screen habits.
Yep.
(22:37):
Encouraging using screens inways that build creativity and
connection with family andfriends.
Yes.
So doing screen time with otherpeople.
That's
Jordan (22:44):
pretty big for us as a family who has close members
overseas.
Yes.
Like Adrienne's mom will oftenrecord like a little, not even
just FaceTime, but likerecording, she'll record little
videos of her reading books formy kids so that she has like a
little something she can, youknow, always get grandma telling
her a story.
Yeah.
(23:04):
Oh, that's so sweet.
So that's like an example.
Yep.
What you were talking
Lindsay (23:08):
about.
That I'm into.
And then this last one had, wasreally similar to age
appropriate, considering yourchild and your teen's maturity
and their habits.
Every child is different.
Every child has differentmaturity levels.
Every child has differenthabits.
And if you're, if you'reconcerned about your child's
screen time.
Best to call your pediatrician,family physician, kind of go
(23:29):
over the concerns.
Mood issues, sleep issues, lowergrades in school, reading fewer
physical books, less time withfamily and friends, like
isolating is a big thing.
So if these are huge concernsand you're seeing them often, I
would then like probably reachout and say, how could, how, how
is this going to negativelyaffect my child over time?
(23:51):
I think the biggest takeawayfrom screen time as a family is.
Parents being aware of how theirchild is reacting to screen
time.
And engaging with it.
Engaging with it, reacting toit.
How it's causing, if it iscausing sleep issues, if it is
causing tantrums at the end ofthe day.
All of that sort of thing.
Yeah.
Which, by the way, brings me toBluey.
(24:13):
Okay, yeah, let's hear this.
So, I have a few non stimulatingshows to recommend for parents
that are in the same stage oflife as Jordan and I.
Nice.
Non stimulating shows aredefined as slow paced, natural
colored tones.
There's not like unusual visualeffects, you know, like there's
(24:36):
no like weird psychedelicswirling shapes and flashing
colors and high contrastbackgrounds that keep And hold
the child's attention.
Um, but they also speak in anormal voice, rich vocabulary,
natural conversation.
You would think Bluey wouldfollow that.
However, Bluey is technically alow stimulating show.
(24:59):
It's not a non stimulating show.
Oh, it's a low.
Low stimulating.
But this is where I found thatwas really interesting to hear
is because it is actually reallyuplifting for parents.
That's so true.
That's
Jordan (25:14):
so true.
Lindsay (25:15):
So you might think as a parent, this is a great,
wonderful show.
It's so like heartfelt and nice.
Yeah.
My daughter has had moretantrums watching Bluey lately
because Peppa Pig isn'tavailable on Amazon Prime right
now.
It's on YouTube, dude.
I know.
Okay.
But we were watching it onAmazon Prime and we were
watching it on Netflix for along time and then we weren't
and then, We were just, we justswitched over to Bluey from
(25:37):
there.
Yeah.
Before going over to you.
Bluey's
Jordan (25:39):
definitely more stimulating than Peppa.
Peppa's like, I can take naps toPeppa Pig.
Lindsay (25:45):
Don't ask me how I know that.
But, um, there's been asignificant behavior difference
in the going from one show tothe other show.
Interesting.
Cause we didn't blend the shows.
She was really strictly.
On Peppa Pig for a long time.
She absolutely loved it.
And then we just switched toBluey and it's been very
(26:05):
different.
Interesting.
So there have been more tantrumslike at the end of her day.
I don't, and I don't know ifit's like just her going through
like a mental like leap.
It could be.
Yeah.
It, it could be, but I thoughtthat was very interesting about
the movie.
Jordan (26:21):
That is interesting.
I'm glad that it's at least lowstimulating because my kid does
love it and I actually love it.
Like as a parent, it's like myhusband, my husband, I don't
mind Peppa Pig.
Like I said, it's nice andchill.
And my kid likes it.
My husband does not like PeppaPig.
He thinks that it is Is it liketriggering?
Yeah, it is for him.
(26:42):
He says that it instills, thereare like lots of like underlying
British isms that he doesn'tfind to be particularly healthy
that are like Oh my gosh, Iwould love to pick
Lindsay (26:53):
his brain in a conversation about
Jordan (26:54):
it.
Yeah, it really makes him upset.
Which I think is so funny.
Cause as an American personwatching, you don't think that
at all.
No, my mother.
Things out.
I'm like, Oh yeah, no, that'strue.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Oh, I'd love to like, because Imean, and it's just a docile
show, so I'm sure it's a littlebit more high.
Right.
Yeah.
But it is kind of funny.
And Bluey is so sweet.
(27:15):
Like there, I've cried to blue,like a bunch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lindsay (27:20):
So we're just, we're just accepting Bluey as a low
stimulating good.
Quality show whether the Yeah,
Jordan (27:30):
I think I also even think like I I'm not necessarily
opposed to like low and mediumStimulating shows for my kid
even though she's really littleshe's just over two Yeah, cuz
she's not you're not forcing itthree hours on her.
No exactly like if it was We'renot using it as like background
noise If she watches like sheher two shows right now are
(27:50):
bluey and she really likesOctonauts That one I think is a
little bit more stimulating.
Okay And it is like a little, itis kind of educational.
It's a bunch of like underwateranimals going around and
checking out underwater seacreatures It's a little bit more
stimulating, but I never let herwatch more than one episode at a
time.
And it's not like before bed orbefore nap time.
So I don't feel that bad aboutit.
(28:11):
It's a good justification.
Lindsay (28:12):
Yeah.
There were some other shows.
I'm just going to quicklyrecommend.
Um, if you give a mouse acookie, You've heard of the
book?
Definitely.
Yeah, they have a show on AmazonPrime Non stimulating.
Really cute.
Trash Truck on Netflix.
Peppa Pig on Netflix, AmazonPrime, Apple TV, Hulu, YouTube,
Roku.
Kind of just like a lowstimulation.
Go and find out where if youdon't want to pay for it.
(28:33):
I pretty sure just go to YouTube
Jordan (28:34):
Yeah, there's so much peppa pig on YouTube
Lindsay (28:37):
llama llama.
I just recently found out thatwas a show.
Yeah It's the it's based off thebook.
Yeah so those are somerecommendations for non
stimulating shows for peoplethat are like in the same kind
of, uh, world as Jordan and Iright now, like two and under.
So yeah, love it.
Mm hmm.
That's a big.
(28:59):
Kind of short overtake on screentime.
Jordan (29:03):
Yeah, I like it.
I like hearing about therecommendations.
Yeah.
I really like the idea ofcreating like a plan with your
family.
Yes, yeah.
And with your partner inparticular at this stage of
parenting and then Being justaware of like how your kid is
reacting to all of it.
That's all good.
Yep.
Very cool, thank you.
You're welcome.
Um, I can pull us into a littlebit of a trending topic for
(29:25):
today.
Okay.
Uh huh.
Okay.
Okay.
Cool.
Alright.
So it's like we said, it'sThanksgiving week.
Yeah.
Which means everyone's like, youknow, thinking about
Thanksgiving, but it alsoprobably means you're thinking
about cringe, getting Christmas.
You know, all together, buyingChristmas presents, Black Friday
sales that are like BlackNovember.
(29:47):
They're like, yeah, what thehell, like everybody is
Lindsay (29:49):
starting early.
I know everyone's having tolike, my husband and I just went
from like, I swear last yearplanning Black Friday to now
being like, well, Black Fridaysare starting, the sales are
starting.
Let's just do it now.
Jordan (30:03):
Yeah.
It's weird.
It is weird, but I'm kind ofokay with it.
Yeah.
Like having it all just on, Imean, maybe it would be better
on one day.
I don't know.
I'm not thinking about, let'sjust not get into whether it's
good or not.
Let's just get into.
Lindsay (30:14):
Yeah.
Do you feel like, uh, since theelection, things have not come
down, like they probably shouldhave come down from the, from
the election we just had.
We just had a crazy electionhere in the United States and
the come down from it hasn'treally much come down for me at
all because the hype of theholidays is like, Throne in my
(30:34):
way.
You know
Jordan (30:34):
what?
I actually was reading anarticle that said that people
are getting ready for Christmasearlier and they're linking it
to the stress of the election.
And like the Christmas prepared,getting ready for Christmas is
helping people to like calm downfrom the election, actually, and
like cope with it.
I believe it.
Lindsay (30:49):
I have never considered buying Christmas trees before
Thanksgiving until now.
Jordan (30:55):
That's so funny.
Yeah.
My husband's very staunchlyopposed to pre December
Christmas trees.
So we're a December 1st to 3rdto 5th, maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
But yeah, so that's, yeah.
So everyone's thinking aboutgift buying.
Uh, and Lindsay was just tellingme yesterday that she's seeing
more gift guides online thanever before.
Lindsay (31:16):
My, I don't know if it's my algorithm, but my,
either my algorithm needs tochange or if it really is like
being thrown out the window.
heavily in everyone's direction.
Jordan (31:25):
I'm seeing a lot more this year than I have in the
past.
And it could also, I mean, we'reparents now, so they're probably
just trying to catch us.
Yeah,
Lindsay (31:32):
that's very true.
Jordan (31:33):
But yes.
So I want to talk about a giftguide, but this isn't like a S
this isn't the kind of guidewhere it just tells you which
gifts to buy.
Okay.
Cause I'm overwhelmed.
Those are too much.
This is a gift buying guide andit's kind of really cool.
So there's this chick on Tik TOKnamed Marin Lindley, I don't
actually use TikTok.
I found this on the oldfashioned interwebs, but, but I
(31:57):
really liked it.
So I wanted to share.
So basically what she says isthat there's like a formula you
can follow for buying gifts for,I'm going to say that this would
be kind of exclusively in myfamily, at least used for my
kids.
Okay.
You could obviously do this withwhoever you buy gifts for.
I'm just not like a huge giftperson.
I mean, I love buying gifts andI love giving gifts, I just, I'm
(32:18):
also like a bit of a minimalist,so I don't like buying a bunch
of shit that people aren't goingto use.
So I, yeah, so I'm kind of likea moderate gift giver, I guess
you could say, in terms ofquantity.
Lindsay (32:29):
I'm just going to throw in the fact that we not only
have holiday Christmas, I havethree birthdays thrown in the
mix.
Three.
You're toasted.
You're toasted.
I can't.
And so, my, my, we got, we gotthe first shipment of my
daughter's birthday andChristmas, cause her birthday
and Christmas is in the sameweek, mine's in the same week,
Andrew's is the following.
(32:50):
We got the first shipment ofChristmas and birthday gifts for
one of us.
And I don't know if I'm okaywith even buying my daughter a
Christmas gift.
Oh no.
From us.
Cause I'm like, she's gotenough, she's got enough for
just one person.
Yeah, too much shit everywhere.
(33:11):
Please, please carry on.
So this
Jordan (33:13):
is meant to simplify the process.
Now, there are, there are ninecategories here.
Uh, and I, I personally, I, Igot my kid, I think, Four or
five Christmas gifts for thisyear, and that's it like that's
where I'm at I know that stillsounds like probably a lot to a
lot of it feels like a lot to meYeah, this still feels like a
(33:33):
lot to me, but I'm just reallyexcited.
Yeah Yeah Little baby boy.
He's not gonna get probablyanything.
So yeah, he doesn't need stuff.
So here here we go I'm justgonna throw through the nine the
nine categories and if theyresonate with you cool go for it
If you if it's a category,they're like man Dump it.
Uh huh.
Not all of them are foreveryone.
(33:54):
You can tailor this to your ownpersonal desires I think the
first four are like a knownthing, right?
So it's the gift.
They want the gift.
They need a gift to wear and agift to read.
Yes.
I'd stopping there.
I love that.
It's great.
Like those four things.
That's awesome.
Yep.
Um, and then this Tik Tok userjust expounded and did like
another five categories.
So you can pick and choose fromthose ones.
But as a general guide, I lovethis.
(34:15):
So the gift they want isstraightforwardly just the gift
they want.
Yep.
That's easy.
The gift they need, also prettystraightforward.
Like, does your kid need a newpair of shoes?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Do they need, this is stockingstuffers for me.
This is a hundred percent, like,I, the stuff I get for stockings
is toothbrushes.
Yeah, like, yeah.
(34:36):
Yeah, yeah.
The stuff that you're gonna justhave to restock at some point.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah, knock it out.
Mm hmm.
Uh, a gift to wear.
So, you know, holiday PJs, ornew clothes, whatever.
Cute little fleece jacket.
Yeah.
And a gift to read, obviously, abook.
Books are always good gifts.
Lindsay (34:56):
Who doesn't want a beautiful book on their
bookshelf?
I want a
Jordan (34:58):
beautiful book.
Anywhere.
And I want to be able to read itat some point in my life.
Yeah, we'll get there.
We will.
I'm craving my books too.
Yeah, for sure.
Uh, yeah, gift to read, gettinga gift, getting a book for every
family member, I think that'llbe a good tradition for me.
Uh huh.
I'm into it.
Yeah.
Oh, you know what else I wasgoing to talk about right here
(35:20):
in this A Gift to Read categorythat I totally forgot about
until just now is I came acrossthe cutest idea.
So I, I am a bit of aminimalist, but books kind of
are a little bit of anexception.
Yeah.
My kid loves reading.
We go through like 10 books aday.
Yes.
Every day.
I'm so
Lindsay (35:35):
happy.
Our daughters love to read.
I know.
It makes me just so giddy thather favorite toy is a book.
I
Jordan (35:41):
know.
It's the best.
It's incredible.
It's the best.
So if your kid loves to read orif they don't, but you want to
read to them more.
This cute idea I came across onsocial media is this mom every
year has like a box of Christmasbooks and she reuses the same
books year, year after year.
You could probably, you know,refresh some and update them and
whatever.
but she does this 24 days ofChristmas thing.
I'm, I'm not into 24.
(36:03):
That's too many.
So I cut it down to the 12 daysof Christmas, but do whatever
works for you.
I even heard of 24
Lindsay (36:08):
days.
I've heard of 12.
Jordan (36:09):
Yeah.
It's like from December 1stuntil the 12th.
Christmas or whatever.
So she wraps, she wraps themlike gifts and it's like
delivery from the North Polecomes to the doorstep.
She pulls the crate of books inand every day it's like an, it's
their version of an adventcalendar.
The kid gets to open a presentand it's a Christmas book.
Lindsay (36:25):
That is so fun.
Super cute.
Cause then you can just havethat, you have your books for
the next year.
Totally.
And you'll do somethingdifferent next year.
Jordan (36:30):
And you can kind of get a couple more and you know.
Make them more age appropriate.
So we're doing that with 12 daysof Christmas.
I went to a local bookstore thatjust sells used books and got a
bunch of really cheap.
Cool.
I actually went beforeThanksgiving and asked if they
had boxes of Christmas booksthat weren't out yet.
So I got to like rummage throughbefore they put them out and the
good ones got snagged up.
Of course.
(36:51):
And then I just, I got caughtlike a couple new ones, but
mostly just some really cheapold ones.
And I'm really excited.
Oh, that's so fun.
So that's a good gift to readidea.
I love it The gift that they cannumber five category is the gift
they can experience So that'llbe for us that'll be like ski
days because that's actuallysomething I can do for free Yes,
(37:12):
somebody who works at a skiresort.
Oh, yeah, very fortunate
Lindsay (37:16):
did my this would have been my first year year had I
still be working at that resortit would have been the first
year for me to pass out free skipasses to family.
My husband's so bummed.
Bummer.
Dang.
Yeah, I've been getting thosefor a long time.
He's so bummed.
Oh, that sucks.
So we're, we'll have to just getour, like, uh, pay for our way a
(37:41):
couple days this winter.
Jordan (37:42):
It's a bite in the butt, dude.
Yeah.
Ski passes are crazy expensive.
Honestly, they're expensiveenough that I want to just keep
one day a week.
There, or one day a month there.
Yes, forever.
Indefinitely.
Yeah, really.
No, truly.
Because it is cool.
Like, that's something I'mexcited to do with my kid.
But, you know, it could beanything.
It could be going out to themovies.
It could be, like, going to thezoo.
(38:04):
It could be,
Lindsay (38:04):
like,
Jordan (38:05):
a beach day.
If you live close to the beach.
A mountain day.
If you live close to themountains.
Experience.
I
Lindsay (38:11):
didn't remember if you said experience or adventure.
But experience.
Jordan (38:14):
Yes.
It could be, like, a littlecamping trip.
Yes.
For us, a little trip to thedesert.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Something.
Go take, go to the rock climbinggym, everybody.
Go take your kids to a climbinggym.
Kids love climbing gyms.
There are things, yeah, they'renot too crazy expensive.
And you can get Groupons forlots of this stuff.
Groupon if you're on a budget.
Groupon used to be such a hotplace to go and I forgot about
(38:36):
it.
Yeah, when we go to the climbinggym, like me and my husband, we
will eventually have passesagain, but we don't.
While we only have a limitedamount of time pop on Groupon,
you can pass for like$8.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
It's so good.
Mm-Hmm, Yeah.
Or like trip to the rec center,whatever.
I'm gonna put
Lindsay (38:51):
that, I'm adding these to my, uh, little note here.
And I'm gonna put Groupon for agift experience.
Good.
Glad I could be of service toyou, Lindsay.
And you did 12 Days ofChristmas.
Jordan (39:05):
I love it.
That's funny.
Okay, so the next one is a giftthey can do.
This one I'm kind of like mixedabout.
This could like be part of, theyoverlap a little bit.
So this is like a craft andactivity Lego set even would
count as this kind of.
Sure.
Yeah.
You could incorporate that
Lindsay (39:22):
into your next future, in your future 12 Days of
Christmas.
How so your Lego, like get themlike a little Lego set.
Oh.
And do like a Lego 12 days ofChristmas.
No, no, no.
Um, so you're doing books thisyear?
Oh yeah.
Next if you change it Oh, andanother you do something else.
Yeah.
Like this.
Yeah.
Jordan (39:38):
Incorporate this.
Like, that's a clever idea.
I like that.
Or like, you know, you could onone of the days instead of a
book psych, it's like a little,yeah, that'd be exciting.
I don't have a bad idea.
Yeah.
Cool.
Okay.
Um, the number seven category isa gift to help them learn that
one doesn't need explaining.
That's great.
(39:59):
And then number eight is a giftto snuggle with.
That could be like a littleplushy or yeah, blanket or
whatever.
That one I'm kind of like mehabout, but it's probably because
my kid just does not give a shitabout stuffed animals.
So, mine doesn't really care tohave him in the crib either.
No, I'm talking about ingeneral.
Really?
She doesn't care.
She, like, she likes her, shelikes the one bunny she has in
(40:20):
the crib.
Our puppy, you're right,
Lindsay (40:22):
our puppy enjoys the stuffies way more.
I
Jordan (40:24):
bet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I don't really care as muchabout that one, but you know, do
it, do it, do what you want.
Um, and then the ninth one Ireally like, and that's a gift
to share.
We always did like a family giftgrowing up and I think that's a
really cool idea and a good wayto get everyone together.
Like I remember, and it doesn'thave to be anything crazy, one
year we got a Bop It.
(40:45):
And that thing,
Lindsay (40:47):
oh my gosh, that was so cool.
The best, right?
I like kind of want one rightnow.
And Skipbo.
Bop It and
Jordan (40:52):
Skipbo.
But yeah, there's some greatinexpensive, but really fun and
engaging and like connectingfamily gifts out there.
Share with neighbor kids.
Yeah.
Share
Lindsay (41:03):
with your family.
Totally.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
And could you incorporate this,like you guys, um, last year,
was it last year or the yearbefore you made cookies for the
neighborhood?
Oh, I do that every year.
Is that kind of like, is thatkind of like this too?
You like.
Yeah, totally.
You could incorporate your kids,like, making.
Yeah, a gift to share.
Yeah,
Jordan (41:17):
for sure.
Yeah, I mean, we give those outbefore Christmas, but this
doesn't have to be all onChristmas, I guess.
Yeah, we totally love doingthat.
And I can't wait, I never eventhought about.
Including my kids and making theholiday treats for the
neighbors.
I can't wait to do that.
Lindsay (41:33):
Yeah.
I pulled out the, cookiecutters, um, they're just like
in a big Ziploc bag and bottomof course you have tucked away.
I don't even know why I havethem.
Jordan (41:43):
I'm not surprised.
Lindsay (41:45):
Cause I have never made gingerbread men in my life.
I've never made star cookies.
I don't know if I like collectedthem.
Okay.
Are there restaurants I'veworked at over the years?
Cookie, I've never seen a cookiecutter.
Well, the restaurant, theEuropean restaurant I worked at
in Minnesota was like, Hotcookie cutters.
She owned a bakery in town andowned.
Jordan (42:05):
Yeah, okay.
Lindsay (42:06):
Interesting.
Oh gosh, I don't know, butanyways, I pulled out the
Christmas ones and my daughterloves playing with them right
now in the kitchen.
Cute.
Stars, and don't step on themthough.
Don't step on them.
No, they hurt.
Yeah, I don't like that.
They
Jordan (42:19):
hurt so
Lindsay (42:19):
bad.
I bet.
Jordan (42:22):
Oh, that's the stage of parenting we're at for now until
eternity, I think.
Oh dear.
Yeah, anyway, so that's the giftguide.
Okay, I love this.
So I'll just, I'll brush up overthem one more time in case
anyone wants to.
Yeah.
Gift they want, gift they need,gift to wear, gift to read, gift
to experience, gift that you cando.
Gift to help them learn, tosnuggle with, and to share.
(42:44):
I love this.
If you have any other ideas,throw them our way.
This is the gift guide that weneed.
Yeah.
Simplifies things.
Covers your bases.
And then, you know, you can pickthe categories that are valuable
to you and your family and youcan omit the rest and you always
have like a basic little thingto follow and that mental load
gets too crazy.
(43:05):
And when the freaking, Theadvertisements come at you or
you're at the stores and you'relike, this looks really cool.
My kid would love that.
You know, you don't gooverboard.
I feel like this is the firstyear I've ever been like, Oh my
God, it's so easy to go way toooverboard.
I used to love buying a bunch ofgifts for my husband, but like
those are things I know he'sgoing to like want and engage
with and whatever.
Yeah.
And it's not just going tocreate piles of shit in my
(43:26):
house.
Yes.
In the way that this does.
Right.
Lindsay (43:28):
You know?
Right.
God.
Yeah.
Thank you, thank you, thank youfor this gift guide because,
yeah, I'm overwhelmed withwhat's being thrown at me on my
phone.
Yeah.
I don't even mean like trying tolike look at this.
Yeah.
And look at these gift guidesand, I mean, people are probably
wondering what our gift guideis, if we could put one out, but
this is it.
This is it.
And you know what else is
Jordan (43:49):
cool about this that I kind of did is, you can like,
you know, have your familymembers who you know are going
to buy gifts for your kids ifyou have some.
give them this list and say,here, pick one of these
categories and get somethingfrom that.
And then your base is covered.
Lindsay (44:01):
I sent my mom a selection of items and she got
all of them.
And I was like, why did you, youdid not have to do all of them.
Jordan (44:09):
Yeah, no, I'm very clear with, with my, I, with my mom.
Not so much with like my inlaws.
They, they're good at giftgiving.
They don't go over the top.
So I'm grateful for that.
Lindsay (44:19):
Cool, cool, cool.
Yeah.
Anyway, um, I'm just going torecommend something real quick.
So my recommendation.
It's coming at you reallyrandom.
I love
Jordan (44:28):
a, I love a random recommendation.
Lindsay (44:30):
The good to grow juice bottles.
Oh.
Are incredible.
What is that?
I've never heard of that.
It's the little, it's the littlejuice bottles with the character
on top.
I'm checking this out.
You got this at Fur Vivi.
Oh, at Target.
Jordan (44:47):
Didn't you dump the juice out?
I do.
But the bottles are
Lindsay (44:51):
incredible.
They do not leak.
They will not leak.
We have tried so many, I mean,enough in my mind.
Not so many, but enough in mymind.
Different cups.
For sippy cups, for milk cups,for water, for, you know, those
drinks, any time of the day.
And they always bring it.
(45:12):
Freaking leak.
Jordan (45:13):
Yeah, they do.
There's there's
Lindsay (45:14):
just no going around it and these won't
Jordan (45:17):
that's cool because they're not that expensive No, I
think they're like and they havelittle figures.
So the good to get these littlebottles have yeah, you know
character figurines Yeah, likethe mouthpiece.
Lindsay (45:27):
Yeah, well Peppa Pig head.
Yeah, whatever.
Yeah character we have right nowat our house like a dinosaur, we
have Poppy the troll, we havePeppa Pig, and we have like a
cat with like funny goggles onit or something.
You can get them at like Target.
Yeah.
Like in the juice section.
And they're reusable, so this iswhere I'm just going to come in
(45:49):
as a granola mom.
I will like buy it at the storeand I will proceed to the
garbage or the fountain and dumpout the juice and fill it with
water, She doesn't have juice.
She doesn't need juice.
Yeah, unless she's like severelyconstipated then I have to dip
dap into apple juice and thatsort of thing, but they're great
juice bottles.
They never spill.
(46:10):
They're have really funcharacters.
They're great on the go Sheplays with it in the car seat.
She talks to it that's a goodstocking stuffer.
That
Jordan (46:18):
is a
Lindsay (46:18):
good,
Jordan (46:18):
actually that is a great stuffer.
I love that idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how about it?
Cool.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Sweet.
Well, that's everything for
Lindsay (46:26):
today.
I think our next episode, we'regoing to talk about Christmassy
things, right?
Jordan (46:30):
Yeah.
Get prepped for that holidayepisode.
It's a big holiday in thisworld.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
It'll be fun.
It will be fun.
I love Christmas.
I do too.
I really do.
It's so nice that there's likesomething warm and cozy and
festive to do in the middle ofan otherwise dreary winter.
Lindsay (46:49):
I wish
Jordan (46:50):
it
Lindsay (46:50):
went beyond December.
Jordan (46:51):
I know, I kind of wish it was like at the end of
January.
Lindsay (46:54):
Yeah.
Yeah.
January
Jordan (46:56):
is a long dreary month.
And February, dude, February isrough.
This year, I think it'll begreat though.
You're gonna have a baby.
I
Lindsay (47:07):
hope.
I'm due February 6th, we'll see.
I thought it was 7th.
No, February 6th.
But was it 7th at the beginning?
According to my cycle, my um,you know, my whole womanly
cycle, Yeah.
It's February 6th.
6th, but I'm measuring February7th.
So we'll see.
Jordan (47:24):
Let's hope for January 24th.
Let's just make
Lindsay (47:29):
the month of January feel a little bit shorter.
I would not mind, but, butironically, my husband and I, we
met on Tinder and we met inperson.
I flew out to Hawaii to meet himin person.
He lived there at the time onFebruary 2nd.
Oh, really?
And so we thought, let's makethis circle full and have our
(47:51):
baby, baby arrive on February2nd.
Come on, baby.
We'll see.
We'll see.
We'll see.
That's cute.
Yeah.
Mine
Jordan (47:58):
came super duper early.
Yeah.
More about that later.
Yep.
Yeah.
Well, not super
Lindsay (48:04):
duper.
Jordan (48:04):
It was like two weeks really.
He was full term.
Yeah.
It wasn't scary.
Lindsay (48:07):
I just knew that when you were going to be done with
working, I was like, hi, I bethe's going to arrive.
Jordan (48:11):
You were right.
Full time.
I did not get a break from workduring that last year.
It's like your body just finallyrelaxed and he's like, fuck,
yeah, I can come out now.
Yeah.
Thank God for that.
It is, I have to say, it is niceto not be pregnant.
I am super happy to never, everbe pregnant again.
There you go.
Oh, it's such a good, I mean,yeah.
(48:31):
Yeah.
Being pregnant is beautiful,but, damn.
Lindsay (48:33):
Oh, I got my plan ready to go.
Eight weeks postpartum, I amhopefully having my tubal
ligation done.
I got my plan.
Hopefully my plan goes through.
Cheers to
Jordan (48:43):
a tubal ligation, everyone.
And with that, I hope you have ahappy holiday season.
Or whatever time of year you'relistening to this.
If it's later, yeah.
Go enjoy yourself.
Cool.
Alright.
Cool, we'll talk to you nexttime.
See you later.
Bye.
Bye.
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