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So there's A big mental load,you know, it's not just getting
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food and putting it in yourchild's mouth.
There's planning.
You got to get yourmicronutrients, you got to get
your macronutrients in.
Oh my God, I'm about to startfeeling like a bad parent.
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And we're on.
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Hi.
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tea, water.
Kind of cold tea.
No.
It's warm ish.
It's warm ish.
I don't mind, I don't mind thistemperature because I can drink
it.
Yeah.
Like.
No, I'm with you on that.
Every time it's too hot, youknow, you wait.
Mm hmm.
And then you forget about yourtea.
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True facts, true facts.
Well, hello everybody.
Welcome back.
This is, we have kids, we havekids, we have kids.
Yeah, we're going to chat withyou tonight.
A couple of things to talk aboutwe're just kind of, I'm kind of
bouncing off of last episodethat we did.
You talked about toddler foodrefusal.
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Yes, yeah, we talked about that.
So I was like, oh, I want tochime in about meal prepping for
a one year old or under Yeah,big topic.
It's a big mental load a bigmental load.
Yeah, that's exactly That'sexactly right because there's a
lot there's so much.
It's a big mental load.
Yeah before you get into itYeah, you just barely said last
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time we talked about X, Y, Z.
And that reminded me.
Okay.
So last time we talked aboutsourdough bread as like our
trending topic.
And Lindsay mentioned this chickwho's pretty significant on
social media called ballerinafarm.
I don't remember her name.
It's like Hannah.
I don't know how to pronounceher.
Nealman, I'm guessing is hername, how do you pronounce it?
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I mean, it's a little bitincidental, but she popped up in
my, in my news feed that likethe day after we talked about
her and I was like, Oh my God,is, did we just really like
stumble on something that wasbigger than I realized it was?
Yes.
She had, a article in New Yorktimes that came out.
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Either the end of last week orover the weekend.
Ever since that article cameout.
So tell us what, tell us whathappened.
Why is she such a hot, hottopic?
Where do I start?
Okay.
We won't talk about this for toolong.
No, but I thought it was worthmentioning because we just
barely talked about it and thenall of a sudden shit hit the fan
and I was like, Oh, we didn'ttalk about that stuff at all.
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A lot of attention to, okay, soup and coming in social media,
big audience.
She, for her lifestyle, and whatshe does with her life and what
she does with her kids on a farmand hobbies.
And she clearly has big goals.
She has, Eight kids.
Eight kids.
Eight kids.
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They're Mormon.
Let that sink in.
They are Mormon and they'reprobably going to have more.
But we don't know that for sure.
But anyway, they probably are.
Do you know 33 years old too.
She's pretty young.
33?
Dang, she's younger than me.
yeah, she's very local.
She grew up just south of Provowhere Jordan and I live.
And now she's out on the otherside of the mountain range, out
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in the country on a farm.
I'm, I'm not gonna lie, they doa kick ass job with their
farming.
It's really fascinating to watchhow they, how she puts this
presence on social media, butthat's the biggest topic is,
okay, she has this wonderfulfamily farm life on the other
side of the mountain range.
She's also got really big goalsand she's got a busy household.
Big goals being When trying towin Miss World pageant, yeah,
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like not small potatoes for amother of eight kids.
Yeah.
And, and mind you this pageant,birthdays together every year,
this pageant came less than twoweeks after she had her eighth
child and she, she competed, shecompeted.
You can imagine as a mom, itwould be very difficult to have
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eight kids period, just fullstop, like just end there.
But then have a farm and thentry to do beauty pageants.
It's a lot.
She's got a lot going on and Iguess like the part of the issue
is that she's not talking a lotabout the privilege that she's
also sitting in like the verybrief things that I read were
like, oh she comes from a lot ofwealth and the little prairie
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life that she's putting on islike kind of Fake it feels like
people kind of think she's likeputting on a show which is
either like intentional thatshe's leaving out.
Yeah, or Not intentional.
I don't know We don't know whather message is She's never
actually said my intention isthis or just because I live that
like she's never said justbecause I live this way Doesn't
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mean I can do all these XYZthings.
Yeah, and plus she doesn't owethat to anybody.
No, she's doing her thing She'sdoing her thing.
I kind of I'm trying to putmyself in her her shoes and
think to myself Okay, like if Icame for if if I was born into
wealth if I met somebody thatwas wealthy Yeah had wealth in
his name as well And we decidedto have this type of life and we
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decided to do this XYZ with ourmoney Technically that's her
choice.
What is the main complaintagainst her?
That she's not saying anything.
She's not being upfront with allof the resources that she has.
Yes.
She's not being upfront.
She's not saying that she hashelp, but, but does she?
We don't know.
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We don't know if she has helpand if she doesn't have help.
But people are thinking tothemselves like she puts on this
like poor lifestyle And I'mlike, that's why does that look
poor?
Yeah, just because she hasbecause she does not shoot Yeah
It makes her own food does notchoose to paint her walls in her
house doesn't choose to havelike lampshades or for instance
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Her bathrooms as simple as canbe her kitchen is as simple as
can be but Having a house thatlooks like that shows me that
she doesn't have the time toclean.
Yeah Anyway, that's like alsosort of beside the point.
I think the thing that both ofus feel I mean I didn't even
dive into the details of likewhat these people were saying
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versus what those people weresaying like the thing that like
always It stands out in my head.
And the thing that I think thatyou said about this too, is that
can't we just let people dotheir thing and live the way
they want to parent and live?
I mean, I too, I do alsounderstand like, that they're,
that, you know, showing somebodywho looks absolutely stunning
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going on a beauty pageant and,you know, I think I like I
totally do get it like I'm alsoa victim of like a victim, quote
unquote victim of like havingunrealistic beauty standards put
on me by the like the media andjust you know everything and I
totally understand the damagethat that can do and I think
that there is something to besaid for moms who do.
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Like the whole bounce back body,you know, there's something to
be said for appreciating awoman's body postpartum and even
like quite a while afterpostpartum and finding beauty in
like the nonconventional.
Why would it be nonconventional?
Yeah.
Like I feel, yeah.
I feel like the beauty pageantbeauty should be the
nonconventional one.
Unfortunately it's not.
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And I do understand.
Where people are coming from iftheir argument is like she's
setting unrealistic expectationsand perpetuating sort of that
feeling in society.
I get that.
And maybe looking for praise atlike that women should or could
or are able to do this.
But like at the same time, isthat like more of a personal
internal work?
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Like I think it's more healthyfor us to understand that, okay,
women are actually powerful andCan get this done if they have
this kind of goal.
Yeah, like whatever this is.
Yes.
Yeah, or it's absolutely still aokay to sit in your discomfort
or Comfort like literally can bediscomfort or comfort if you
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don't have the same Goals.
Yeah.
Or resources.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, it's going to comeback to the same thing, isn't
it?
Like that if you are on socialmedia and you're having feelings
that aren't benefiting you andthoughts that aren't benefiting
you, that that's something tocheck in with internally and
like sort out within yourselffirst.
And if that's like hurting youto follow somebody like that,
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then I get it because I'vefollowed people who I'm like,
Oh, this is making me feel likeshit.
But it's like, at the end of theday, that's something, that's an
E problem.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot going on.
It's just, my mind goes to that.
I'm like, why are we?
Why are we doing this like it'sjust batting women against
women.
But I guess the bottom line thatI want to say is like, let's
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support each other in, like, allthe ways.
Yeah.
Let's just support each other inall the ways.
Because we're all struggling, Inways that people do and don't
see and nobody's really like, Idon't know.
Anyway, let's get back to um,Let's get back to what we're
here for.
Yeah.
That was such like a, such aderail, sorry.
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I had to like bring that up andjust mention that we.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Noticed that that was a biggerstir than we realized when we
talked about it last week.
Holy smokes.
Okay, but yeah, so speaking ofstuff we talked about last week.
We were talking about toddlerfood refusal.
By the way, my daughter's beendoing the swipe.
Uh oh.
Three days now in a row.
Oh no! I jinxed you.
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Yeah, three days in a row, she'sswiping.
Dang.
We'll get there.
Yeah, you gotta get your benchscraper.
Yeah, yeah.
It's been going good though,it's our age.
But yeah, it's funny how youbrought that up.
I'm like, I'm not dealing withit yet, here we go.
Here we are.
Doesn't take long.
Right.
Alright, so talk to us aboutmeal prepping.
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Yeah.
A big mental load, you know,it's not just getting food and
putting it in your child'smouth.
There's planning.
You got to get yourmicronutrients, you got to get
your macronutrients in.
Oh my God, I'm about to startfeeling like a bad parent.
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
No, but I'll get to that pointbecause you can't get You got to
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see, I'll just, I'll just jumpahead.
You have to see the big picture.
You got to see that balance likein a week's worth of time.
You're not going to get thebalance in one day.
And if you do, you're going tobe incredibly anxious and like
you're going to be burned out ifyou're trying to get all that
like in, in one day.
So just look at your week.
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You know, are they getting theirveggies in the entire week?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's like a day thatmaybe they didn't, but there's
another day that they did.
No, but it's all good.
This will be good for me too.
This is a big mental loadbecause you are, you're thinking
of the planning, you're tryingto be cost effective, maybe your
family's on a budget, so you'retrying to like plan all that
out.
Yeah.
That's part of the mental load.
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You're also thinking about like,Okay, what keeps my child
regular?
How do I avoid constipation?
You're still thinking of thatkind of stuff.
So what foods are helping there?
How do I introduce new foods?
And be cautious of allergens atthe same time?
Like, it's crazy.
this is when you're bringing inmeal prepping, you're moving on
from breast milk formula solely.
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So you're introducing solids andstuff, but like you're also
needing to maybe take notes sothat you can look back and
remember like, yo, pears weregreat.
They did not like cause like arash or anything.
Cause you're thinking of so manythings.
You may forget that pears weregiven your child a rash or
something.
So yeah, there is a big mentalload.
And then also too, like whenyou'll get to a point where
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they're feeding themselvesreally well that you got to give
yourself a break and you can,you can let them eat what you're
eating.
Like we're totally doing thatright now.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
And it did.
It's surprising.
It really surprised me howdifficult it actually was to
just be okay with her eatingwhat I.
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Well, I was eating.
Yeah.
'cause I was like,.
For whatever reason Mm-Hmm.
this has too much of this orthat, or like, whatever.
And yeah, it was tricky.
And or is she even gonna likethis flavor profile?
I was pretty good aboutintroducing her to like
different spices and flavors andthings.
Yeah.
But like, yeah, there were abunch of times where I was like,
I can't give rid of this.
It's like, yeah.
Bread or it's got like too muchsalt or whatever.
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Yeah,.
Yeah, and that's that's part ofyour mental load exhaustion I
think So there's a big mentalload that comes with meal
prepping However, you just gotto remind yourself to chill.
You just gotta take your notesIt helps you if do whatever you
got to do to help alleviate yourstress I took notes.
We both got a book.
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That was wonderful We startedoff with this book called super
easy baby food cookbook byAnjali Shaw Okay, that was the
book that you have.
Yeah, you'd let me borrow andyeah, I gotta get this book Uh
huh.
So we start Jordan and I startedwith that book.
We loved it I can't recommend itenough.
It was a great introducer forlike purees and adding in like
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spices.
Yeah, like making your ownpurees at home and then it also
talks about how to introducethem.
Yeah, that was really good.
Yeah, I penciled in notes, um,in that, like when we started
purees, I was like, okay, bananapuree, whatever.
She doesn't like it.
So I wrote doesn't like smart.
I didn't do that.
I wanted to be able to rememberbecause I felt like I wasn't
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going to remember because allthis other like mental load
stuff that was going on in myhead.
I was like planning the cost.
No, I get that.
Like you forget everything.
Yeah, everything.
Um, there's reasons that you dowant to meal prep for your
toddler.
It benefits everybody in yourhome.
It benefits you, it benefitsthem, it helps you save money at
the store.
So much money.
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Yes.
It helps me save so much money.
Yeah, you're not going back andforth to the store.
Every single meal, every singleday, you can meal prep and buy
in bulk.
Find the prices that fit yourbudget.
Yeah.
Um, I would just like pop inright here, like to say that one
of the ways that this helped mesave a lot of money is making my
own, purees and stuff versusbuying like pouches of baby food
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or like jars of baby food,because those are so expensive
for how much, yep.
Like actually it goes into them.
Yeah.
So that, yeah, that was, I mean,it's, Not a time saver, so if
you have a lot of money and nota lot of time, then maybe this
isn't good advice for you, butif you have Not a lot of money
and you have just enough timeYeah.
If you could to make some food.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Totally worth finding that likeone day where you can meal prep
and freeze and Yeah.
All and a little goes like wayfurther than you think.
Oh, for sure.
I made so many fewer batches ofbaby food than I thought I
would.
this can reduce stress as youavoid, like, last minute
decisions.
I struggled with that at dinner.
Oh, just like suddenly, oh, whatam I gonna feed her?
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What am I gonna feed her?
I struggled with that a littlebit.
It meets their nutritionalneeds, so this helps with you
understanding like, okay, yeah,they're getting like vitamin C,
they're getting, you know, theirprotein in, they're getting
their, carb in or their fats orwhatever, so you're helping them
meet their nutritional needs.
This helps with variety, like Ijust mentioned, you can prep all
kinds of different fruits andveggies and grains and just have
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them ready to go in your freezerif you need to.
those are some great reasons tomeal prep.
Yeah.
Helps you, helps them.
Yeah.
For me, when I start my week andI'm like planning my menu for
myself and my husband, uh, Iwould just write down also what
my kid was going to be eatingand when you have it written
down, like it takes some mentalload to get to that point, but
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once it's there, you can likecheck it off.
Like you don't, you can checkout and you can just kind of go
into autopilot and serve thething that you know you were
going to serve and know thatit's all going to come together.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We.
We kind of do that and then Iwas thinking about, I'm starting
to think about, um, preparinggrains in kind of bulk to keep
in the fridge for a few days ata time, like rice or quinoa or
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like a mashed potato orwhatever.
Um, just kind of have like onthe side to that I can add to
whatever she is eating if sheneeds it.
Yeah.
Nice.
Or I can add it.
Yeah.
Or I can add it to my food too.
Yeah.
Um, but I, I was going tomention.
One of the things, one of, acouple of the meal times a day
that are kind of tough to mealprep And for me personally, like
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breakfast and snack, like I feellike breakfast food and snack
food are kind of like easier inthe moment food on hand, like
eggs and soft toast, softveggies or like a mango pit.
that's not something that likeneeds to be meal prepped.
It's just like ready to go onthe go.
Little avocado is my favoritelittle on the go thing.
Oh, yeah.
so those are the two times a daythat I found that were pretty
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easy for me to get food in themoment that doesn't have to be
meal prepped.
You can still meal prep them.
There's great breakfast optionsoatmeal and stuff that you can
meal prep.
Yeah.
Or like the little pancakes Iwas talking about last episode.
Yeah.
This all depends on like yourlife.
What's your life?
Are you busy?
Are you both busy workingparents?
And that could obviously changeas your child gets older.
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Yeah.
I'm solely talking about likememo prepping for a one year old
or under, but we'll talk aboutit again in a year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's see here.
Oh, yeah, let's talk about howyou prep it up.
Yeah, that's what I was gonnaask actually a good good guy
Rinse your produce.
Oh, you're talking like yeah,let's prep it.
this is for purees Rinse thatoff get it clean Steam cook
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until soft puree and blender ifyou need to and freeze in those
portion containers Which arecool.
You can literally use an icecube tray You can use silicone
food portion trays like the WeSprout or the Super Cube ones.
They come like, they're likelittle silicone one ounce, two
ounce portions.
Those are great for purees.
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I learned that from Jordan.
They were great.
I was obsessed with those.
I had the two ounce Super Cubetrays and they were pricey, but
they were so worth it.
Yeah, it was so worth it.
Like you so you make the puree,rinse, steam cook, blend it,
freeze it in these portioncontainers, then you take them
out and put them in Ziploc bags.
Yeah, ready to go.
There's a full freezer bag fullof purees ready to go on hand.
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I still use purees.
I add them to her oatmeal, I addthem to her yogurt.
I mean, I don't, like, go all inon making sure I always have a
puree, but like, but Idefinitely have.
But there's still some, there'sstill food she can consume.
Yeah, definitely.
I make smoothies out of the onesI still have.
Yeah.
So that's like the way to prep.
Puree, it's easy.
Yep, um, popular meal prep itemsthat are not purees.
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Okay.
Egg cups.
People seem to be obsessed withscrambled eggs.
I never tried an egg cup.
I haven't yet either, actually.
Because I just make them up.
I have, I'm at home, I can justmake her scrambled eggs with
veggies right there.
baked oatmeal cups.
I have done something like that.
Okay.
Yeah, and those were actuallyawesome.
Yeah.
I used to make those mealprepped when I was in college
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for trying something like earlymorning breakfast and I loved
it.
You could heat it up in themicrowave, pour some milk on
them, they were great.
Soup and stews are great to mealprep.
Absolutely.
Put in the freezer for later.
Did a bunch of those.
Yeah.
Pasta sauce is great.
Oh, I've never done pasta sauce.
That's clever.
Yeah, pasta sauce is really coolbecause you can actually puree
like roasted veggies add yourseasonings and broth and your
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kid doesn't know.
It's a little like veggie pasta.
That's a good idea.
Muffins are great.
We definitely do those in ourhouse.
Yeah.
Waffles, pancakes.
Yeah.
And then again, like the steamedfruit and steamed veggie purees.
Those are great.
Like popular meal prep itemsthat you could have in your
freezer, ready to go.
Should I talk about the no foodsfor toddlers?
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Just make sure that you arewatching for.
Unpasteurized juice, milk,yogurt, cheese, that kind of
thing.
Make sure that those arepasteurized for your child.
Yeah.
Also like you don't want to bemeal prepping food that caused
joking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Raw vegetables, grapes, hardcheese, popcorn.
No, it's like chips.
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Yeah.
Let's uh, crackers.
It's not meal prep.
Those don't prep those quiteyet.
Yeah.
I mean you can cut up, like I'vegiven my kid grapes, like only a
couple of times.
She really loves.
She's like a little berry head.
She loves berries, but evenberries.
If you cut them up the right wayjust really small And if they
like yeah hard veggies if youcook them, so they're soft
enough.
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Yeah, it can be fine, too YeahThat's where like a lot of my
like anxiety and mental likeflow goes to.
Every time she's eating I'm likeokay.
Is she okay?
Yeah.
Is this gonna be okay?
Is this gonna cause somethinglike an issue later?
Totally.
It's really scary at first.
I remember I gave my kid Yougave her broccoli?
Oh, that was so scary.
I legitimately thought she waschoking more than once.
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I legitimately, I, there was onevideo where I was just recording
and it was so cute.
She was like nibbling her littlebroccoli and then she started
gagging.
So the thing you got to knowwhen you're feeding your kid for
the first time is that they gaga lot and it can be really scary
because you hear all thesethings about kids choking and
you're like, Oh my God, I'm notready for this.
So yeah, she started likegagging like pretty hard on it.
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And I just like dropped my phoneand the video is just, it just
gets destroyed.
But, uh, she was not choking.
Luckily she was just gagging,but yeah, it takes a long, it
took me probably five or sixtimes seeing her gag to be even
slightly more comfortable withit and to not have that like
heart like stomach droppingreaction.
Yeah, it's crazy.
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You're like just feeling goodwith purees and stuff and you're
just kind of watching for likeany like surface allergies or
anything like that.
And then all of a sudden you'regiving them chunks of food and
you're like, what?
The way we watch them.
The way that we're watching themwhen they eat.
It's wild.
Yeah, so I do have some tips asfar as meal prepping goes.
Make a double if you want.
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Make a double.
Yeah, if you're, if you'remaking oatmeal, go for two
servings and have the next onefor the next day.
Just do it.
Why not?
And then like, you can, oh, wewere talking about, The kids eat
in color Instagram.
Oh, yeah, we were talking abouther last Episode two.
She's got a ton of meal prepguides.
Oh Incredible on her website.
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You can google this shit likeyou can google Toddler meal
prepping and there's tons ofblogs to help you out.
You can Pinterest Recipes makesure that you pin them to a
specified board so you can likefind them quickly if you need to
That tips for me.
She knows I can't use PinterestJust make sure you have a board
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like specified for it.
I do that too.
I'll like throw like recipes onLike that I want to make for my
daughter into my normal recipeboard, if you will, and then I'm
like, why, why did I do that?
Yeah, I can't find that idea.
I should make her an actualboard.
Um, to save money, buying freshproduce.
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By the produce that's on sale orthat's in season, the in season
produce tends to be cheaper.
buy in bulk less trips to thestore My main question for you
is I feel pretty competent inthe, like, process, personally,
of meal prepping, like, I feelgood about, making the menu and,
going to the store and havingeverything on hand and preparing
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it.
The thing that I think that youdo Maybe, maybe not better than
me, but certainly moreconsciously than me is like the
nutritional, like thedistribution.
So maybe talk for a second aboutlike, what sort of nutrients are
you looking at?
Where do you kind of draw theline between, okay, I'm
obsessing a little bit too muchover the nutrients.
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Cause anytime I've asked youabout it, you've been like,
well, chill out a little bitmore than anything.
So yeah, if you could speak tothat a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
when I'm, when I think tomyself, chill out, I think try
to look at like the biggerpicture, like I said, like,
yeah, look at the week, likerelax.
Like it's okay if you're notgetting enough carbs in one day,
but so like what's thebreakdown?
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Like what, like I know you don'tprobably count carbs and macros
for your child, but like, no, Idon't count them.
I just, I do make sure she doeshave a carb of healthy fat and a
protein in her day.
And I do actually make sure shehas a healthy fat most.
For sure in the morning, she'sgot a brain that's growing and
crazy and like going like I wantto feed that her brain is made
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up of mostly fat and I want tofeed her that fat first and
foremost and it helps them keepthem like sustained.
fullness, if you will.
Yeah.
And I do want to make sure thatshe has like complex carbs for
her energy that she's going tobe burning like throughout the
day.
These kids are moving andgrooving.
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They're burning calories,they're burning energy.
You are watching for any likedrop in weight as well.
So I'm trying to maintain thatthat doesn't happen.
Um, so I do make sure she's gota protein at every meal and I go
a step further and I make surethat that protein personally is
like really well sourced becauseher body is growing and I do
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want to make sure she's got likefantastic source of protein.
That's me personally.
It's, do not, it is a okay tohave a protein at any meal,
whatever that protein sourceneeds to be for your child.
Totally.
If that answers your question,as far as micronutrients go, I'm
just trying to get her somelike, basically introduce her to
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things like herbs.
Micronutrients are herbs.
Micronutrients are like lemonzest, if you will.
Yeah, so things that are givingus like vitamins and minerals
versus like fats and proteinsand carbs.
Yes, exactly.
So I'm kind of incorporatingthat into her meals as well.
Um, just trying to get like anoverall sense of a good day's
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worth of food to help her growand for her energy.
Yeah.
you ever look at, like, theamount of calories that you're
giving her?
I do not.
No, that's when I just kind ofwatch personally, like, if she's
dropping weight, gaining weight,kind of growing.
She tends, I don't know if allbabies do this, but my daughter
tends to Chunk out and thengrow.
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Yeah.
My kid does that too.
I basically just kind of watchthat period of time and see
what's going on.
I'm like, so I just think tomyself, okay, she's about to
get, she's about to grow someinches, you know, um, I'm
watching for her.
Um, She's hydrated, and then herpoops are healthy looking, and
all that kind of stuff too.
Yeah, it's crazy how much youcan tell just based on their
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poops.
Yes.
Crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
Yep.
What do you do if she'sconstipated?
Oh, we go, to pears and cherriesand blueberries.
Cherries! Like fresh cherries?
What do you do?
Um, yeah, you can do freshpitted cherries.
Um, just ice them up real nice.
Or I've made puree with thosetwo.
Okay.
I've steamed them and the pureedthem.
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I have pureed cherries and stashin the freezer.
And then I do have cherries thatare in the freezer that are
pitted that I can dice.
Frozen.
Yeah.
Like that you've bought frozencherries from the store.
Cause I like to snack on thosetoo.
Yeah.
That sounds tasty.
Yeah.
So those are like the three.
And like I said, those are thethree meals that help her be
regular that I've noticed.
Pears, cherries, and blueberrieshelp her.
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Blueberries.
Yeah.
And then I up the water intakeand that helps quite a bit.
Yeah.
she has not had intense diarrheaor anything like that, which I'm
grateful for.
Yeah.
Um, but I have noticed like if Igive her maybe too much pasta
sauce, back to back to back,there's a lot acid in that.
That can be irritating on herskin.
So is that like a red sauce?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Like tomato sauce, yes.
Yeah.
And what sort of thing are youseeing on her skin?
That it's like rash.
Okay.
Just rash.
Just rashing.
Okay.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Like mostly in the diaperregion?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Yep.
Um.
So yeah, those are kind of likethe things I'm going for.
I also introduced quite a bit ofseasonings just to kind of get
her palette going and I do makesure she gets like zinc and
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vitamin C and that kind of helpswith her immunity.
With supplementation?
Yeah, she does get a likemultivitamin in her morning
bottle.
Oh, you put it in the bottle?
The Wellimants one?
My kid loves just having it outof the bottle I've never thought
to put it, I mean I, yeah,breastfed for quite a lot
longer, so I never thought Inever, like, had a bottle to put
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it in.
Yeah, yeah.
But I would have never thoughtof that.
So, with the bottle thing, how,how much, like, milk is she?
Like, obviously, a six month oldwho's still very much relying on
milk, whether that's formula orbreastfeeding or whatever.
is going to have lessnutritional needs from food.
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Right.
But once your kid's around likeone, and that switch starts to
happen, how do you, how do youknow how much milk to give them,
I guess?
So I Google, I Google that.
I literally Google, like, howmuch should a one year old, or
how much should a 13 month oldhave?
You always gotta go back to theAHP.
They recommend toddlers, 12 to24 months old consume 16 to 24
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ounces of whole milk per day.
Wow, that's a lot.
Yeah, and right now we're justunder 20.
But I google that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
I just wanna know for sure I amgiving her You're doing her
right?
Yeah.
Than I giving her enough.
Yeah.
I think it's harder for thislittle thing.
Oh yeah.
Is it trickier for, uh, womenwho are still breastfeeding
breast?
Yes.
I still breastfeed once a day.
Mm-Hmm.
And I have no idea how much milkshe's getting.
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Enough feeding.
Like, I don't know.
I have no clue.
Yeah.
You basically just have tofollow their cues at that point.
Yeah.
I think, I don't think any,yeah.
I was nervous about that when mydaughter was newborn and we were
breastfeeding.
I was like, she's, she's onlylatching on one side.
I'm burping her and giving her abreak.
She doesn't want like, she's notlatching because she can't latch
or she's full.
I can't freak out.
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You're like, I don't know ifshe's getting enough.
Yeah.
It's tricky breastfeeding.
You just have to follow theircues.
And it can be really tough.
Yeah.
It's not, it's not asstraightforward.
You can't just like Google itquite as easily because you just
don't know the base.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's how I make sure she'sgetting like enough milk on top
of her food.
Yeah.
So just to kind of go back ontips, we can utilize the prepped
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veggies that are in the storealready.
You can do that.
There's already like they have asection in the produce area.
Sometimes these stores have preprepped cut vegetables.
They are spendier, but if a momis busy or if you just need
something quick, go for it.
Those ones are spendier, but ifyou go for the frozen ones,
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they're actually, sometimesthey're cheaper.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, so if you want that, like,convenience, but you can't pay
for the extra, try the frozenstuff.
Yeah, leftover roasted veggiesare great, to add like into egg
scrambles.
You can puree them into a saucelike I mentioned earlier.
If fruits are on their last leg,throw them in a smoothie for
your kid.
Like I'm going to throw this tipin there because I wish I was
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doing this for myself, like everand ever and ever.
Go ahead and get your ripeavocado, smash it up in a bowl
with like a little lemon juice,lime juice, whatever.
And then portion it into thosefreezer containers.
Containers.
Oh, yeah.
Throw them, like, get themfrozen.
Freeze it.
Freeze it.
Yeah, I would have never thoughtto freeze avocado.
You can literally, like, throw,like, when you're ready for an
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avocado to put on your sandwichfor yourself.
Smart.
You can put that sucker in themicrowave.
And for like literally 20seconds and it's a perfectly
tasteful avocado.
This thing is not, this is thething that it just helps you
avoid an avocado from rotting onyour counter and dying because
you're waiting.
And they're so expensive.
You're waiting for this avocadoto like get ripe and then all of
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a sudden you forgot about it andit's like dead.
And you're like, why did I buythat avocado?
Like it's the avocado saga.
Yep.
Just like freeze.
All of them.
That's so smart.
Get after it.
It's so good for food waste too.
Food waste is one of the thingsthat I really make a point of
trying not to ever, like, I meanobviously we waste some food
but, yeah, food waste is kind ofa big issue I think and it's
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just going to become a biggerissue so anything I can do to
eliminate it in my life I'mreally stoked about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, those are some of my tips.
Um, I've mentioned earlier thisis like the biggest one is just,
um.
Chill, take a look at your wholeweek ahead.
Like, did my kid get like a fullbalanced, diet over the entire
week?
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If you feel like they didn't getenough protein in their day,
don't be, like, laying in bed atnight and thinking, like, I'm
the worst.
They didn't get enough proteinthere, you know.
Yeah.
It's all gonna be okay.
Like, just wait until the week'sover.
So that's my kind of big oldtake on meal prepping.
I do have some recommendationitems that are great.
I mentioned the book that weboth have.
Those are great.
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The ice cube trays are great.
the silicone food portion trays,like the supercubes.
Yeah, they're great.
Get yourself a steamer.
If you feel like, um, you wantto start on purees, Don't be too
overwhelmed.
Uh, just have fun with it.
Yeah.
Good.
I love that.
Help yourself.
Help yourself.
Yeah.
Really does get rid of thatmental load though, to like
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Yeah.
Get to write it all down andjust stick to a thing.
And maybe you won't always stickto it perfectly, but at least
you'll have something to go backto.
Yeah, totally love that.
Yeah.
Thanks for sharing all that,that, that's awesome.
Mm-Hmm all right.
So there's something that I wantto talk about.
We're going to move into ourlittle trending section now that
we're done with the toddlerthinking about toddler food.
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I think we all need a break fromthinking about, I guess, baby
food in that case, but whateverit is.
So the thing that I want to talkabout is something that I've
seen come up.
I just randomly saw it come up awhole bunch in the last couple
of weeks and I was like, this isso interesting.
I want to talk about this on thepodcast.
So it sounds a little bit woowoo.
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so, I love woo woo shit.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm on the woowoo fence personally.
But I sometimes really like itand sometimes I'm like, okay,
that's gone a little too far.
But, um, so I recentlydiscovered a show.
Like a little YouTube channel,maybe, I don't know, called
Doggyland.
Okay.
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Have you heard of this?
No.
Is this, is this, my mind isgoing to just a YouTube channel
of dogs playing.
Okay, it's not that.
Okay.
Tell me what this is.
Oh my god.
Okay, but no.
Okay.
Are you seeing what it is?
I just Google searched it.
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Now I know what you're talkingabout.
Okay, what came up though?
Snoop Dogg.
Yeah.
He's got this.
Snoopaloo.
Yes, this is a trend.
Yeah.
He's entered kids nursery rides.
Okay, but I'm not here to talkabout Snoop Dogg specifically.
Okay.
Okay.
As much as I could forever.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, so the thing, the thing, thedoggy land thing that I was
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exposed to was a video that hehad created.
It's a little animated video.
There's like an animated SnoopDogg and it's actually a dog and
he's like singing a song aboutaffirmations.
Oh.
So affirmations is actually thething I want to talk about.
Okay.
One of the reasons it came up.
Crack me up if you guys haven'tseen Snoop in his like kid
friendly form Go YouTubeDoggyland Affirmations this shit
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will be stuck in your head for acentury, but it's really funny
Oh, especially for usMillennials who grew up like
yeah, you know fully in theSnoop Dogg era like everything,
there aren't, there's not like ahuge body of research about the
specific benefits ofaffirmations for young, young
kids, right?
Like I'm sure there's someresearch about, about them for
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like kids sort of middle schoolage and up.
Sure, sure.
Cause that's kind of when youcan start getting feedback from
the kid themselves.
but.
Yeah, I did find some,, a decentamount of research on some of
the positive effects ofaffirmations in older kids and
adults, like they reduce stress,they increase self confidence.
People who practice positiveaffirmations are more likely to
positively affirm their peers,which is something that goes
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back to what we were talkingabout at the start of the
episode, just like building eachother up and can just generally
like increase your psychologicalwellbeing, happiness, all that.
So, Even though there aren'tlike very well researched
benefits for young kids, I thinkthat the kind of, the logic that
most people are using here iskids learn things that they take
with them throughout life,right?
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Like that's basic.
And I think that's hard to argueagainst.
And teaching them to talkpositively about themselves.
For anyone who doesn't know whataffirmations are, I wish I had
them when I was a kid.
Dude, same.
I look back at my, like,childhood when I was young,
elementary, middle school,feeling nervous and stressed and
anxiety.
Totally.
Man, if I had thoseaffirmations, I'd be like,
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confident.
Yeah, it would help a little bitif nothing else.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, for sure.
So affirmations are basicallyjust like things that you say to
yourself about, generally aboutyourself or your situation or
your context that, positively.
Affirm, a specific quality ortrait or emotion or whatever
that you're trying to likeembody.
Yes.
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Right?
So, I'll, I'll talk about somespecific ones later, but.
Yeah, so that logic takes usfrom A to B, like we're taking
what we learned from as kidsthrough to adult life and if we
can learn as children to talkpositively about ourselves and
to build ourselves up and like,you know, build up the people
around us, then that can't, itcan't hurt.
No.
It can't hurt.
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So I think it's kind of cool.
And I think it's something thatI want to start with my kid.
I haven't started it, but Ithink that we're kind of about
at that stage, where she'sunderstanding a lot of the
things that I'm saying, and I'mpersonally getting into the
habit of Talking about myselfand talking about her, like,
it's as much for me as it is forher.
Like, she needs to see memodeling this behavior, she
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needs to see me talking aboutmyself, talking about Adrienne,
talking about her, in thesepositive ways on a regular
basis.
So I really want to instillthat, you're also, in a sense,
breaking that inner child's,like, emotions and feelings.
Yeah, totally.
It can be emotional.
Like, when I talk to my daughterabout these, and like, I am
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brave, and I You know, I love meand it's almost like, Oh my God,
like it does start to hit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
Oh, that's nice.
I love that.
Yeah.
and yeah, I guess she goes toshow how much we really need it
ourselves.
Yeah.
Which is, yeah, just reallycool.
So all of that's fine and wellworking affirmations into your
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daily routine that can be alittle bit daunting or whatever.
You know, it's just like one ofthose things that you're meaning
to do and then you just like,yeah, the whole day goes by and
you're like,.
So I want to figure out a way todo that that doesn't feel like a
challenge, that's not adding tomy mental load, that I don't
have to go out of the way to do.
So I found a few cool littleeasy ways to integrate them into
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your days, in case you'reinterested.
Yes, I am.
Alright, cool.
so a few things to consider whenyou're working through these
affirmations so if your kid'sold enough, which ours aren't
quite yet, but we'll get there,you can explain to them that
these are like magical wordsthat help us feel happy or
strong or do really hard things.
Whatever it is.
I'm all for teaching the kid thewhy behind the things that we're
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introducing to them.
And I think that this is like areally cute way of doing this
early on when they don't fullyunderstand like psychological,
the inner workings of our brainsand all this.
Um, I did hear a really nice tipthat it's important to practice
affirmations when your kid isn'tworked up because there'll be
more receptive.
Okay.
Which makes sense.
Like if I was worked up, Iprobably would.
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Not be as receptive to my ownaffirmations.
Right.
that was a nice little tip Andthen the final little thing that
you want to keep in mind is toregularly affirm your child.
Say things like you are lovedand you are strong or whatever
else you want them to instill inthemselves.
And say it regularly.
so a couple cute little waysthat you can work these into
your daily routine that I foundthat I thought were really cute
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were, the first one is to makeor buy positive affirmation
cards.
So like you could check onlineand they make little packs, I'm
sure tons of people make littlepacks of positive affirmations
and I'm sure they're for allages too.
All ages, yeah, totally.
They're cool for yourself,they're cool for your kid, but
you don't have to buy them.
That's like one thing that I waslike, oh yeah, you don't have to
buy it.
You can make them.
You can just, you know, takesome paper, write it down in
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like a little marker or whateverit is.
And you can like leave themaround the house.
You can put them on your kid'smirror, or the mirror in the
bathroom.
You can put them on a bookshelf,on your kid's little water
bottle.
Um, yeah, so obviously that'smore helpful when the kid can
read, but it will help you toremember.
Like, I was thinking, I wouldn'tmind doing this now, even though
my kid totally has no idea whatthis little thing is, because it
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will remind me.
And I want to say somethingpositive to myself, I want to
say something positive to her.
That's great.
Yeah.
another one is to find songsthat do affirmations.
So Doggyland is like, you know,our first recommendation there.
But there are, there are loads,you can just go on YouTube and
search kid affirmation songs andyou'll find, I'm sure that
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there's no end to the amountthat you can get.
and then just, yeah, see whatyour kid likes and which one
isn't super, super annoying whenit gets stuck in your head all
day.
And choose those ones and then,yeah, just add that to your
little repertoire of songs thatyou sing to them.
And there you go.
I love that.
I read in another place that Iwas looking at that it's best to
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repeat the affirmation threetimes with your kid.
Together and say it louder eachtime to really drive at home.
So that's like just anotherlittle tip I for me that feels
like this is so funny.
This is like the I don't knowwhy but this feels like kind of
Uncomfy.
And I think that might be alittle bit of like the inner
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child thing too, you know?
It's like, oh, this feels kindof woo woo and silly.
But I actually think it wouldlike totally work.
I actually think it wouldtotally work.
Yes.
If you were to say it likelouder and louder each time.
Yeah, like louder and louder.
Here's the thing, that's energybehind your words.
Yeah.
You're throwing energy outthere.
Mm hmm.
And that's all good.
Vibration.
It's not gonna hurt, right?
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It's not gonna hurt.
No, try it.
Like when you're by yourself.
I've never tried it, but I'mmaybe I will, but I'm by myself
if I'm feeling a certain way andI want to be feeling a different
kind of way.
Maybe I'll try it and I'llreport back.
But it is cute.
I think it would be cute andeasier to do with a kid than by
yourself.
I also read that it's especiallycool or useful to do it in front
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of a mirror, which I can totallysee.
since that's a really commontime for people to speak badly
to themselves.
think of all the times you havestood in front of a mirror and
thought, Like, get thoughtsabout yourself and like moved
your body in a way that wasn'ttelling the people around you,
I'm feeling really good aboutmyself right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that, that, especially likein junior high kind of time and
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even before that sometimes.
That's like a modeling thing.
I wanna be modeling that to mykid.
Yes.
I wanna get in front of a mirrorand regardless of how I'm
feeling.
Like deep down and what I'msaying to myself, I want my kid
to see that I'm feelingcomfortable.
Yes.
I don't need to be feeling likeso good looking or anything.
I just need to feel perfectlyokay with who I am, what I look
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like, how I'm presenting myself.
So I think that that's a goodtime more for us to remind
ourselves as parents than forthe kids themselves.
Okay, so another really cutething that I, love that I found
quite a while ago, is this bookcompany called Slumberkins.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know if you have any,but I know I've lent, lent you
one or two once upon a time.
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She loved the sloth one.
Did she?
Yeah, she's like.
The daily routine.
Yeah, she loved what the slothslooked like.
That's so fun.
That's cute.
That's very cute.
That's a great, that's a greatbook.
Yeah.
So Slumberkins is a coolcompany.
I think they're based in Oregon.
They do, I mean, they do morethan just books, but I think
they started as a book company,but basically it's like this
host of little like make believeanimals and dragons and things
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like that.
and the sloth is like in dailyroutines and the honey bear is
like gratitude and the big footis self love and like they just
don't have all these like it'sreally, yeah, the dragon is like
creativity.
They have all these cute littlevalues in.
And each animal represents adifferent one, but as you read
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the book to the kid, the wholething is just this long
affirmation.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's so beautiful and it'sawesome.
And at the very last page of allof them is one that you actually
say with your child.
So you'd say like, I wish Ishould have brought one down to
like, actually just read, butit's like, I am Loved and then
the kid repeats.
I am loved and blah blah blah.
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It almost helps the kid likeunderstand what that emotion is
Yes, totally because throughoutthe book it's like it's like
going through it and sometimesyou'll feel this way Yeah,
understanding the whole thing.
Yeah, they really knocked it outof the park and you can get
these books for fairlyinexpensive like I caught mine
on sale and I think they wereonly like five dollars each.
I bet thriftbooks.
com has oh, yeah I don't evenknow about that website.
(44:23):
So school me that Thrift booksis where it's like you can go to
amazon and check obviously forprices, too Yeah thrift books
they're known for having likemillions of copies of stuff.
Wow It's a great way to reuse,you know.
Oh, definitely.
That's true.
It would be cool if they had.
It would be cool if they hadthat.
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They do.
Yeah.
Oh, awesome.
Four bucks, five bucks.
Yeah, check thrift.
Thriftbooks?
Thriftbooks.
com.
You can also it's anothercompany that like among all the
other companies that exist rightnow that you, if you sign up for
their, newsletters they'll sendyou when they're doing good
deals.
And yeah, Snagabunch, becausethey're honestly the cutest
books and my kid loves them So afew examples of some cute little
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affirmations that you can dowith your kid are I have good
willpower.
I thought that was a cute onefor like a slightly older kid.
Yeah.
My family and friends love me,something like we all need to
hear all the time.
I can concentrate easily.
There you go.
You can see that one beinguseful for, like, for the kid
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who's struggling to concentrateand for the parent who's getting
frustrated with A concentration.
There you go.
I see that being useful in myfuture.
Yeah.
I am grateful is always a goodone.
I am relaxed or I am calm.
I like that.
I love that one.
Yep.
And then the last one.
that I really liked is, andobviously there's like a
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thousand of these, so this isn'tthe last one, but the last one I
wrote down is, today is going tobe a good day.
I love that one.
It's just like a cute thing tosay with your kid every morning.
Yeah, every morning.
Or like at night, today has beena good day, or today was a good
day.
Of course.
Yeah.
We're reading books, right nowby an author that I really like.
Catherine Jewett.
I think she's an English author,but she's got some affirmation
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books, board books right now.
Um, she has, I can be brave.
Oh, you did mention that to me.
Yeah.
You sent me that link.
I can be calm.
So when you said like calm, thatreminded me to chime in.
I love her books.
She's such a great author.
she.
Partners up with, illustratingartists for each one of her
books, but the I can be calm.
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I can like they're differentillustrators?
Yeah, which is really cool.
That's fun.
It's like a fun kind of way.
But she's got theseaffirmations.
I would say that those areaffirmations.
Can you say the author's nameone more time?
Katherine Jewett.
Jewett, okay.
J E W I T T.
Awesome.
If you go to her website, it'skind of where you can find all
of the books that she wrote.
But we have the book, I can beThankful.
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Cool.
She absolutely loves that book.
And so I was like, Oh, I'm goingto get, I'm going to check out
this author and see if she's gotmore.
And here she's got tons, tonsmore.
I love that.
I'm definitely going to checkthat out because those books
make me feel good too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're fun to read over andover.
Over and over.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
So that's pretty much it.
Affirmations.
Give them a shot.
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if you have some that you'dlove, let us know.
Maybe we'll put a littleInstagram post up.
Tell us in the comments, whichones your favorites are.
Cause I, yeah, I'd love to readmore.
Sweet.
Why not?
Awesome.
Yeah.
And that's all I've got to say.
So, uh, Lindsay, do you have arecommendation for us?
For this is another cool Utahchick.
Okay.
Utah chicks are coming out.
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They're coming out with a bangin the mom world.
Who knew?
Of all the states.
No, um, and speaking of this,mom only has one child in this
state.
But, I'm recommending a book byone of my favorite people in the
whole wide world, I think.
Melissa Urban is a really badasswoman.
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She is the co founder ofWhole30.
Whole30 is a very popular It's adiet.
It's a diet.
Yeah, it's not necessarilyweight loss.
It's more so like a diet.
No, it's like to figure outclean up your yeah Like figure
out what if you how you respondto different.
Yes.
Yes, so she's the co founder ofthat but she's also just an
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incredible advocate for claimingyour boundaries Stating your
boundaries, navigating yourboundaries, She wrote a book,
called Book of Boundaries that Icannot recommend enough.
She has It's a theory, that isessentially kind of like a
stoplight theory, if you will.
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Like each boundary, okay, sayyou have a boundary just to like
claim I need to set a boundary.
You're going to need to set aboundary with somebody in your
family or work, a coworker, afriend and you're unsure of how
that reaction's gonna be fromsomebody or how to navigate that
boundary, right?
Yeah.
It can go in many different waysand it can be in many different
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levels.
And she has this, pattern thatcan be green, yellow, red.
So you start with green.
Mm-Hmm.
simple.
State the boundary.
And like a simple manner, and ifit's not respected, you move on
to the yellow and then if it'snot respected, you move on to
the red and the red is like,stop that.
We will not be contacting you.
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Okay.
So it's like, yeah.
She gives you self protection.
Yeah.
She gives you kind of a layersystem so that you're.
You're not just jumping to thered if you don't necessarily
feel comfortable doing that.
Okay.
So like, say my dad wanted totalk to me about Yeah.
Just, yeah.
And you were going to his homefor like a dinner or something.
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Sure.
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
So like so I'm just gonna say mygreen Maybe tell me if I'm doing
this wrong.
So my green is like, okay, soI'm gonna go over there and when
he brings up religion I'm goingto just tell him hey, I'm not so
comfortable talking about thisright now Maybe there's a time
we can talk about in the future.
But for right now, let's can wetalk about something else?
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Yeah, that would totally be agreen cool.
And then he crosses the line andI say, okay, so Now let's, let's
now we, now we're done talkingfor a while just to like, so
that I can make sure that I'msafe here and that you're
respecting my boundary andtaking me seriously.
So I'm gonna go over to theother side of the room.
We're gonna take a break fromour conversation, and then when
we come back together totallyYou're on the right.
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So that's like a yellow, yep.
And then red would be likeleaving?
Yes.
Okay.
Like if they weren't respecting,sure, of course that yellow, of
course would look yellow orgreen and then you'd be like,
I'm actually gonna go now.
I kind of like that, likegraduated.
Yeah, it like gives you time tofeel calm in between yep and
secure and strong in yourboundary You're making yeah for
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yourself.
Yeah, But man, I cannotrecommend this book enough.
She's absolutely incredibleShe's she's had to work through
this personally as well So Ifeel really confident knowing
that like she's worked throughall this in her own Personal way
and gotten to a point a healthypoint of writing a book for
others Yeah, I love such a greatway to protect all
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relationships.
Yeah Definitely.
And protect yourself.
Yeah.
And to understand other people'sboundaries that they may be
setting with you, cause that canbe really hard for me.
I'm really good at settingboundaries.
And when other people set themwith me, I can be a little bit
stunned by it.
Yes.
Yeah.
I went to one of her, talks upin Salt Lake City.
She did kind of like a booktour, and so she talked about
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her book, did Q's and A's, andthat was one of the questions
that came up and I was like, Ididn't even think of that.
Like, what if someone sets aboundary on me?
Yeah.
How?
How are you gonna respond?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
And so that was really eyeopening for me, like, it's not
just a two way thing.
Sometimes it's hard to rememberthat.
And I think that our kids aregoing to start setting
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boundaries with us sooner thanwe think.
Oh, yeah.
So it might be good to like getourselves in check.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
This is a book too that like youcan take your time with.
Yeah.
You can revisit.
It is an absolute shelf.
I love those books that you canjust like open up at any time
and be like, Oh, this is sogood.
Yeah.
You can, and you don't even haveto start from the beginning.
(52:12):
You can dive in there.
You can open that book, any pageand get after it.
I love that.
So, so cool.
So Melissa Urban book ofboundaries.
Yeah.
And if you just, if you're notready to purchase the book, if
you just want to go to herInstagram, and it's just
absolutely wonderful, and itgets your mind thinking about
how you, like, stand in yourlife, and it's just, oh, I love
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that.
I love her so much.
Is that our first bookrecommendation?
I don't know.
I feel like it is.
Oh, it could be.
Maybe it isn't.
We have a mom brain, so if itisn't, then sorry about it.
Maybe they recommended a couple,like, potty training books last
episode.
But, like, this is Elmo, Elmogoes to the potty.
He never wants a potty.
(52:56):
He is.
Okay.
All right.
So it's not our first bookrecommendation.
But as far as like big, actualadult books, yeah, this could be
it.
I love that.
Okay.
Well, I'm going to use that aslike a little segue because
that's perfect.
Uh, Lindsay and I were talkingthe other day about, Doing like
a book club between the two ofus and then we were like, oh my
(53:18):
god Why wouldn't we do that aslike a little podcast special
episode every once in a while?
So because we there are thesebooks that we've both Read
individually that we want tolike come together and chat
about and then there areobviously so many more books
that we want To have an excuseto read So we're gonna start a
little book club with all of ourlisteners out there so the first
book is one that Lindsay'salmost finished with and is like
(53:40):
obsessing about it'll be a bigtopic in the next episode, I
think.
Yeah.
The Fourth Trimester by KimberlyAnn Johnson.
Yes.
Very cool.
I'm really excited to read it.
I think that it's, I think thatit sounds like it's been
beneficial for you, as apostpartum mother, even if
you're not planning on havinganother kid, like it would still
(54:03):
be valuable for you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I missed the ball on this oneand did not have this book
before.
I had my daughter and I wish Iread it just before she was
born.
I really do.
I really feel like I can almostget emotional about it.
I feel like I missed out on whatmy relationship with postpartum,
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what my relationship withmyself, what my relationship
with my husband.
I feel like we completely missedthe ball on this We'll talk
about this next time, but butyes, let's get after this.
Yeah, I can't wait.
So I'm going to tuck into it.
Like, yeah, really soon.
I'm currently reading a littlebook about ageism.
So as soon as I finished that,I'm going to get into the fourth
trimester.
And then maybe in like 10 or soepisodes, we're going to, We'll
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dive into it.
We'll just see when we finishit, we're going to give
ourselves some grace.
Yeah.
I'm hoping to get mine.
I'm almost done with it.
So I've been kind of essentiallylike almost like journaling
about it because it's going tobe my topic on this podcast.
So it's kind of a fun way tolike, just.
I recommend y'all journal aslong as, as you're reading this.
It's so I love that idea.
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Or have a highlighter orsomething.
Yeah.
You know, kind of like just makeit your own personal thing.
Great.
Yeah, I can't wait.
It's going to be so fun to talkabout.
I'm going to try and read itsooner than later so that you,
it's still fresh in your brain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, The Fourth Trimester byKimberly Ann Johnson.
Yeah.
Join us.
It'll be, it'll be super fun.
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Cool.
Yeah.
Well, that's everything I thinkfor tonight.
Yeah, that was a big one.
Yeah, that was a big one.
My tea has been gone for awhile.
I know, I'm about to dive intomy water finally.
Yeah.
Thank you for the tea.
For sure.
It was delish.
Every time.
I love every time.
Awesome.
Cool.
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