November 26, 2024 • 38 mins
Our first ever Q&A! Come listen to our hot takes on everything from child leashes to trad wifing. An all-over-the-place episode to perfectly complement our frazzled mom brains.
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Lindsay (00:00):
Q and a.
(00:00):
Q and as, Q and as.
We did a q and a poll.
Qs poll as, yeah.
Poll on Instagram
Jordan (00:10):
Okay, hello.
Hi, Lindsay.
Heyo.
Hi, how's it going?
Good.
Lindsay (00:14):
Good.
I'm feeling good right now in mysecond trimester.
I'm feeling like the last likefew days.
I'm feeling good.
Oh, good.
Babies have been great.
Yeah.
I'm feeling like good.
Jordan (00:24):
Nice.
I'm,
Lindsay (00:25):
yeah, envious.
Well, my husband's gone rightnow.
He's on a big elk hunt, and I'msleeping on the couch.
Even better.
Oh, I
Jordan (00:34):
bet.
So maybe that has something todo with it.
Yeah, probably.
I mean, sleep is definitelycritical.
Little piece.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
Well, let's uh, get into thisepisode.
We've got kind of a differentone for you today.
Yeah.
Little quick hit.
Yeah.
Lindsay (00:47):
Q and a.
Q and as, Q and as.
We did a q and a poll.
Qs poll as, yeah.
Poll on Instagram.
Y'all came in hot.
Jordan (00:55):
Yeah.
Lindsay (00:56):
So random, which is fun.
Jordan (00:57):
Yeah.
I think that was the fun.
That's like the funnest part ofjust asking everyone because
then you just get a randomlittle spray of.
Yes.
Everything.
Yeah.
Lindsay (01:08):
It's so cool.
I think we should do it againsometime.
Maybe like in the new year orsomething.
I don't know.
Jordan (01:15):
Yeah, we'll do it again, maybe in another like 10, 20
episodes.
Yeah.
Sweet.
So, yeah, we're just gonna get,I think let's just get straight
into it.
Yeah,
Lindsay (01:22):
yeah.
I was, um, I was at the airport,and uh, stuck on the runway, and
I was like Is that what promptedthis?
Yep.
I was like, let's do a funlittle Q& A.
Yeah, nice.
Um, just to kind of get itgoing.
So this was fun.
since I was, since I wastraveling.
Yeah.
First and foremost, someoneasked child leashes.
(01:44):
Child leashes?
While in airports and travel,question mark.
Straight into
Jordan (01:48):
controversy.
Lindsay (01:49):
Yeah.
Are they controversial?
Are they, I would say they'remore opinionated than
controversial, but good.
Are they a good idea for safety?
Yeah.
Yeah, what's your what?
So putting your child on aleash?
Jordan (02:01):
What's my hot take?
Yeah, I'd say it depends on theit totally depends on the kid.
I I'm gonna say I like wouldlean towards supporting this
move, especially in an airportor other crowded places.
Because if you don't have astroller, well, but even if you
do have a stroller, like yourkid doesn't like sitting in a
stroller right now.
(02:23):
So what?
You want to push her around astroller while she's like
screaming bloody murder at theairport?
I'm
Lindsay (02:27):
nervous.
I have a trip coming up.
I'm like, what am I going to do?
Jordan (02:30):
Yeah.
So that's the thing.
Like I think there are a lot oftoddlers out there or like
little kids who are not stokedto be in a stroller who are not
stoked to be held, who, youknow, like we'll squirm and
wiggle and scream.
But if they're like, Feelindependent and walking.
That they might be fine.
But you don't, but then, youknow, like some kids are
runners.
Yeah.
(02:50):
And if you've got one of those,did you got it?
You can't just like dropeverything at the airport and go
chase them.
No.
Like, especially
Lindsay (02:56):
when you're picking up in or dropping off, that's a,
that's a tricky spot for littleones.
Uh, TSA is a tricky
Jordan (03:04):
spot.
Dates are a tricky spot.
Like the whole airport's atricky spot.
And even other places likewater.
Okay.
Like, I mean, you probably, I'venever seen a kid on a leash at a
water park, but like a waterpark or like an amusement park,
holy smokes.
I think
Lindsay (03:17):
this all depends on like what the kid is like.
Jordan (03:19):
Yeah.
For sure.
Yep.
For sure.
If they can handle a stroller,then a stroller might be a
better option.
If they can't and they just wantto be running around and they're
like content enough on a leashthen for safe, dude, your, your
job as a parent, number one issafety.
Yep.
For sure.
Yeah.
And if your kid's going to getlost or run away from you and
that's like the best way thatyou have, or like, think of
(03:42):
this, maybe there's a parent whohas like a disability of some
kind.
Like I'm pregnant as fuck rightnow.
And I, I couldn't chase my kidif she weren't running full
speed.
You'd have to have somebody likewith
Lindsay (03:54):
you if you were out and about.
Yeah, totally.
There's no way you could go out.
Jordan (03:57):
No.
And she's happy in a stroller,but like my sister has a couple
boys who are like almost fourand two and a half, and we were
camping with them last night andthey would run off, dude.
And I couldn't even, like, Iwanted to help, but I was like,
if that was my kid, I'd bescrewed.
Wow.
And I totally put them on aleash over letting them run into
the road.
They make them cute, they domake them like, they make them
(04:20):
look like little animals.
They make them cute.
They do, like the kids can getall into it.
Yeah, the little like backpackones, I've seen those, those can
Lindsay (04:27):
be useful.
Yeah, my husband in the 90s, hewas a little guy and he had a
leash.
Jordan (04:32):
Yeah?
Lindsay (04:34):
He was a leash kid.
Was he a runner?
He must have been, I know he wasvery like an, he was a very
active kiddo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, his mom was just like,thought it was the greatest
thing that was ever invented forher.
And she was not going to like,leave her kid.
Yeah.
No Roman, like crazy like that.
So
Jordan (04:53):
safety first, everyone.
Yeah.
If that's what it takes, noone's here.
I mean, I'm not here judgingyou.
Lindsay (04:59):
You feel, yeah.
Keep your kids safe.
Yep.
I would do it if I
Jordan (05:05):
had to.
Yeah man, definitely.
What chores do you let yourtoddler help with around the
house?
Clean, clean, clean.
Clean, clean, clean.
She loves it.
Lindsay (05:15):
Yeah?
She goes right to the drawer inthe kitchen on the bottom with
all the rags.
Yeah, that's one of my kidsfavorites, too.
No, she does it on her own.
She spills water, she goes tothat drawer and grabs it.
So, cleaning is one of herfavorites.
100 percent like cleaning up,cleaning up spills.
I give her like a little, littleSwiffer duster thing.
Oh, nice.
That's clever.
She, she's not a huge fan ofhearing the vacuum, but when I
(05:38):
give her the duster while I'mvacuuming, then she feels like
she's part of like the wholething.
Jordan (05:43):
So all about it.
Yeah, that's great.
My=kid does the same thing withlittle spills and the, and the
towel drawer in our kitchen.
she's also getting to the pointwhere.
I'll ask her to pick up her, youknow, blocks or her whatever,
like, toy she's playing with andput it away before we move on to
the next thing and she's gettingreally good at it.
Yeah, oh cool.
Like, 80 percent of the time.
Lindsay (06:04):
Yeah, we do that, like, before bedtime, we do, like, a
big family, like, pick up.
Yeah.
Nice.
Or put it away, and she's goodat saying put it away.
Cute.
So, yeah.
Chores for kids are awesome.
Yeah,
Jordan (06:15):
they are great.
Um, my kid also likes to helpwith laundry.
Help, help with maybe like alittle bit of a stretch.
We do that
Lindsay (06:24):
too.
But she
Jordan (06:25):
does, she's really good about like if I'm sorting a
bunch of laundry, she'll puthers in her basket and then take
it to her room.
So that's a good one for kiddosto help with.
And then cooking.
Oh, fun.
Isn't really a chore, but kindof is.
Definitely a really fun one fortoddlers to help out with.
Yes,
Lindsay (06:43):
You guys probably utilized the, uh, kitchen
counter tower thing.
Oh, the little like steppingstool one?
Yeah, yeah.
Yep, definitely.
I don't
Jordan (06:52):
know, I mean, I don't know.
It's like a stool.
Tower stool.
It's like a stool that has likea little.
Yeah.
Please walk up to it and thenthey're at the counter helping
you out.
My brain's done.
You guys know what we're talkingabout, right?
Can we stop?
I bring
Lindsay (07:07):
that up to the washing machine too because we have a
top loader and then she like,throws the dirty clothes in and
then we just bring it to thekitchen sometimes.
So yeah, those are fun.
Fun little chores for the kids.
Jordan (07:16):
Yeah, and they feel really good about doing it.
I've heard, like, having thembring the mail in even, like,
all these things can reallycontribute to their sense of
independence and value.
Yeah, they feel like they're,yeah,
Lindsay (07:26):
you're all part of a team.
Totally.
Another question we have here iswhat's your experience or advice
for PPD, PPA, PPOCD?
Oof.
That is probably going to belike one big episode really
soon.
I was going to say, like, wecould totally do, oh my god,
(07:47):
like part one, part two.
It's so much information, butit's so obviously so important
to discuss because these arequestions that other moms are
having.
Jordan (07:57):
Yeah, definitely.
So what, like, I mean, you'vetalked about your experience
with PPD.
Lindsay (08:02):
Did you say you had PPA?
I had PPA and PPOCD.
Jordan (08:05):
You had
Lindsay (08:06):
PPOCD?
Oh, yes.
Oh, geez, I don't think I knewthat.
And I think that's whattriggered my PPA.
Okay, interesting.
And I think that this came fromworking in the operating room,
being so in charge of thesterile field, and like
everybody having what they need,and like I took that home with
me, and I was like, I have tohave six bottles at all times.
(08:27):
I guess that's true, you didkind of go a little wild with
that.
And so like, that to me kind ofis like OCD.
Yeah.
And I, you know.
It, it turned into a little bitof PPA and then I was like, this
is too much for Lindsay tohandle.
Yeah.
So let, so I had it for a shortperiod of time, PPA.
I would love to discuss thatmore in an episode, but they
(08:51):
are, They can all blendtogether.
Jordan (08:54):
Yeah.
If you will.
I, yeah, I can definitely seethat.
I think that a cool episodewould be to, for us to talk
about that.
in the preparation for you, likethe lead up to your delivery.
Oh, yes.
And just talk about, like, waysthat Yeah, we could do that.
That you can, like, preemptively
Lindsay (09:08):
Yeah.
Cause then you'll be like freshinto postpartum.
Maybe you'll have like a newexperience or something.
Jordan (09:14):
Yeah.
That's, that's a hard questionfor me to answer because I
didn't experience any of those,but I, which I feel very lucky
about for sure.
Those don't happen for you.
Yeah, and you know they couldlike there are different factors
at play that I've looked intolike one of the questions that I
had was does your chance of anyof those three things increase
with like a second kid, right?
(09:35):
And it's like the answer wasthat not necessarily like if you
have had it, then there's agreater chance you'll have it
again, obviously, but maybethat's not obvious felt kind of
obvious.
Yeah.
but the other factors are morelikely like sleep deprivation.
If you already have, forexample, a toddler at home or,
you know, like not gettingenough support for like the
(09:56):
other people in your family,like, you know, it just,
everything gets more complicatedwith more kids.
And as a result, Your chancesincrease slightly, I think, but,
but ultimately the answer islike, not really.
So
Lindsay (10:08):
that's something.
Yeah.
This will be a good one todiscuss.
So we will get to this cause Ihave experience in it.
I will say I talked a lot aboutDeemer in episode one, I think.
Just to preface that has that isnot related to postpartum
depression Yeah, okay, so that'slike its
Jordan (10:27):
own like little so would you say you didn't have
postpartum depression was justlike no
Lindsay (10:33):
Maybe if I if I did I don't know if it was necessarily
postpartum depression or if itwas like the winter blues You
know, some, some kind of like,all kind of like blending
together.
Yeah.
But I wouldn't say I was like, Iwasn't, I think PPA and PPOCD
really took it over for me.
(10:53):
I didn't feel like the need tolike, do it.
address postpartum depression.
I felt more need to address PPAand PPOCD and then I felt so
much better.
Jordan (11:02):
Interesting.
So just really quick, what wasthe experience of the anxiety
like for you?
Like, was it coming up in theform of like thoughts that you
couldn't get under control orfeelings in your body?
Was it more like mental orphysiological?
Lindsay (11:16):
Um, I would say probably physiological.
I definitely could feel thatmore in my body.
Like if I did not, you guys, ifI did not have her room ready to
go.
Or like perfect for the everysingle time I entered it it
would I knew I was gonna getanxious And I didn't want to
derail and I wanted her roomlike perfectly set up Yeah shit
(11:39):
for me to enter that nighttime Iwanted like I said six bottles
in the fridge ready for me to goat all times I just did not want
to like feel like I was flailingand like overwhelmed or hurried
or any of that.
Which is
Jordan (11:54):
ironic because you probably felt a lot more
overwhelmed like with all thatextra set up and like just the
pressure that you put onyourself to have that ready to
go.
Don't you think?
Let's not.
Okay.
Oh man, I
Lindsay (12:09):
could listen to her whole album right now.
Jordan (12:11):
Yeah.
It's 90s.
It's swinging right back aroundat us, man.
Yeah, it is.
Uh oh.
Alright, um, yeah, so we'lladdress those in their own full
episode.
Yeah.
We'll get there.
They deserve it.
Yep.
Lindsay (12:23):
what are some unpopular parenting opinions?
Oh boy.
This was kind of It's a bigquestion.
This was a big question becausethere's so many.
Dude, this is another
Jordan (12:35):
episode by itself.
I
Lindsay (12:36):
like only picked five.
Okay.
I like researched and I thoughtof some of my own.
And I like, I could have lookedat this all day long and just
seen like what people like wereputting, you know, like putting
out there on Reddit or puttingout there on, um, yeah.
Reddit.
The black hole.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what would you say is your,like if you had one?
(12:57):
Car seats are not hard toinstall.
Why do people even tell me that?
Why do companies tell me that?
Because they were, they are
Jordan (13:04):
like, so easy installation.
You think that's like a myth?
Lindsay (13:09):
They're, they make it so easy, but here's the, I think
here's the issue.
You have the straps that need tobe in a certain position, right?
Yeah.
what else?
Like all the safety featuresthat come with it, like,
obviously like they have to bethis poundage, this height to go
that direction and then like,you know, Overwhelming of which
(13:30):
one to choose and Then like alsothe pressure of like well I have
the Nuna or I have the Duna or Ihave just get the great go it
doesn't matter you know like youhave just like a stupid amount
of Brands to choose from andthen you go to like maybe you
want to go get it at a store andhave a certified car seat person
(13:50):
That's going to go through itall with you.
And then that's for some reasonfeels overwhelming, but it's
wonderful to like, when I put itin, I can take it to that store
and I'm like, she can likeoverlook it and everything.
Thank God.
But the owner's manual is sothese companies that are like
trying to show you how easy,even like YouTube videos that
(14:13):
show you how easy it is.
That's reassuring that we haveYouTube, but They are not, they
are so hard to put.
To like, manage and put in andfigure out.
It's a whole thing.
Jordan (14:25):
Yeah, I sort of generally agree with you.
I think that the ones that I'vehad have actually been Uh,
pretty easy to install, but eventhe easy ones to install, I
think the pressure to get itright.
Oh my gosh.
And then like my husband, ourdriveway's
Lindsay (14:38):
kind of on a slope.
So the stupid bubble that issupposed to be in the center
doesn't work on the thing.
Isn't So then you're thinking toyourself like, it's not in the
center.
Oh my God.
Like it's just, yeah, there's alot.
So silly.
Yeah.
There, there is a lot.
But again, safety first.
I know, right?
Right.
So it's just like a big order.
Yeah.
And then I, I'll, I'll chime inon one more that is interesting.
(14:59):
Okay.
Kids don't belong in the dogpark.
Jordan (15:01):
That's an interesting one.
So I don't have a dog.
And so I don't have a lot tospeak of.
Have you ever, have you had adog growing up or anything?
So I, yeah, that's maybe a storythat doesn't need to be told on
the podcast.
It was a short lived, uh, yeah,it was sad.
Lindsay (15:17):
I always had dogs growing up.
Yes, I brought my dog to a.
Dog park and I'm glad at thetime there were no children
there
Jordan (15:24):
because it's a safety thing again, probably right?
Yeah, what is it or is it justlike yeah, it's more like as a
dog parent to not to have likeYeah, cuz you just don't
Lindsay (15:32):
know where the kids
Jordan (15:33):
are
Lindsay (15:33):
gonna like pull at the you know, go to the dog's face.
That's true You know, it's awonderful world that we have
dogs and that like children anddogs can like coexist But maybe
not at the dog park I'm gonnaagree that kids don't belong in
the dog park.
Jordan (15:49):
I mean it's kind of like taking, I mean it's, I guess
it's, is it like taking dogs tothe kid park?
What do you think about that?
Lindsay (15:57):
I
Jordan (15:57):
don't know.
Lindsay (15:59):
Like if you're having a picnic way off to the side and
your dog is beha, like wellbehaved and trained to like be
over on the side at your picnicwith another person, that's kind
of cute.
Jordan (16:10):
Yeah.
And fine.
I I've never felt threatened bydogs at kid parks, but then I
can see, I mean, obviouslythere's room for disaster.
Lindsay (16:18):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know that the only thingI can make, I guess, I don't
bring my dog to the kid's parkfor a reason.
Just because I'm trying to like,watch my kid and interact with
her.
Jordan (16:31):
Yeah, that's fair.
Screen time is another one thatis like, okay, so the, the, but
the hot take specifically isthat, And this is, I do kind of,
I'm going to say I kind of agreewith this hot take.
And that's that being antiscreen time is a privilege.
Like, I think screen time, wedon't love it for our kid.
(16:52):
She gets, I mean, she getsscreen time.
It's not like we don't like lether watch any at all.
Cause I think there's definitelylike a balance to be struck.
And this is its own episode too,to be totally honest.
Um, but I think in general, Iagree that it is definitely a
privilege.
Um, some parents just don't havetime to get anything done
without.
(17:12):
And you can be like, Oh, but youcan give your kid like another
activity.
You've got to set that otheractivity up.
They might not engage with it.
Like, what if you've gotsomething that's time sensitive?
Like it's, it's a pretty likeuniversally true thing that a
show will entertain your kid.
And there are quality programsout there that you can put on
for your kid too.
Yeah, they're fine.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Lindsay (17:31):
I, uh, I would say I was probably more opinionated
about this before I had kids,which is funny.
And I don't think that'suncommon.
I think that's because you and Iworked in the restaurant world
and we're like, we'll never putour kids, you know, never do
that to our kids.
Yeah.
Well, once I had a kid, I waslike, you have no idea what kind
of day that parent had.
(17:52):
All is fine.
Jordan (17:53):
Yeah, and maybe they have only gone out to eat once
that whole year.
Yeah.
And they didn't have anyone towatch their kid.
Yes.
And they wanted just a moment tothemselves.
Yeah, it's all good.
Yeah.
Like,
Lindsay (18:03):
yeah.
My child, she gets screen time,I would say maybe once or twice
a week, but it's because I havestuff, I have, I have shit to
do.
Jordan (18:12):
And I also will throw in there that I'm very pregnant
right now, and I was sick lastweek, and being pregnant and
sick meant that my kid waslaying on the couch next to me
watching her show while I took anap because I needed it, man.
My
Lindsay (18:26):
daughter had the, had a little bit of sickness too, and
she, Was so upset and like needyand in a not bad way.
I don't, I don't say needy in abad way.
Like, she had to be held and hadto be picked up and like, there
was no way.
So I was like, you know what?
We're going to have some milkand we're just going to watch
Peppa Pig for a little bit andrelax.
Everything's going to be fine.
(18:46):
It's all going to be fine.
Yep.
Okay Another one.
Oh, you don't need a themednursery.
I agree with that.
A themed nursery?
Yeah.
That's silly.
You know, like how, if you go onPinterest To think that you
would need one.
Yeah, I think I'm not sayingthey're silly in general.
I'm just saying, like It's,yeah, like, the whole idea of,
oh my gosh, like, we're havinga, say it's your first, and
(19:07):
you're like, I need, need to dothis, and you do not.
Yeah, I know.
But I think there's, like, aweird, like, Pinterest y
pressure.
I definitely got sucked downthat hole when I was setting up
the
Jordan (19:17):
nursery for my kid.
Lindsay (19:18):
I can see how it It could be fun for like some
parents that really want to dothat.
That's cool.
And if that makes you happy, gofor it uh, toddlers don't need
formal learning every day.
Example, like flashcards.
Oh, yeah.
And, and have more unstructuredplay.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Yep.
For
Jordan (19:35):
sure.
Yeah.
Toddlers are learning, oh mygod, dude.
So much from play.
All day.
And, and everything else, dude.
My kid's picking up crazy wordsfrom just me and my husband
having a conversation.
Like, she's not even beingattended to and she's like, just
absolutely a sponge.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Kids don't need as much as wethink they do.
No.
No.
That's for
Lindsay (19:54):
sure.
Absolutely not.
Jordan (19:56):
I've got a question.
Okay.
This one is probably more foryou than for me.
Oh.
What are your thoughts abouttradwives?
Do you consider yourself to beone?
Lindsay (20:06):
Yeah,
Jordan (20:07):
uh,
Lindsay (20:08):
Okay.
I mean, not yeah, as in yes, Iam one.
Trad wives.
Do you, are you familiar withthat?
I, so is this the whole thinglike where it's like gender
roles?
Yeah, basically.
I don't believe in that.
I would leave kind of away fromthat, but ironically, in my
(20:28):
home, like my husband Like youare a tradwife.
Like my, like my husband is thebreadwinner in our home right
now because I'm staying home.
Yeah.
And I'm doing like the homeythings.
Yeah.
Which has been kind of liketradwifey for like Tell me
Jordan (20:43):
about, tell me about what homey things you're doing.
Lindsay (20:45):
Oh my gosh.
No, I, dude, you're going to letthose, my husband's great when
he is directed to help me withthings.
Um, but right now I am likefucking cleaning and like
(21:07):
quilting.
Yeah, I guess I am quilting.
Well, no, he's canning.
Okay.
I'm just helping with that.
He's canning.
Who cooks, who
Jordan (21:15):
cooks every, who, talk to me about your meal times.
Lindsay (21:19):
Meal times?
Uh, we do our own breakfasts.
And then obviously like I manageme and my daughter's like lunch
and then I manage our dinnerstoo.
And I like he, but he and I havelike full open conversations
like what should we do fordinner?
Should we just order in or outor whatever?
He cooks too.
He is.
He for sure cooks too.
He totally loves to cook.
Yeah.
But I'm totally like more like,I guess, is this also blending
(21:43):
in with like mental load?
Oh God.
Like for like preparation oflike the home and the child and
like us as a couple.
Yeah.
Because If that blends in,
Jordan (21:54):
but if that blends in, I'm a trad wife and I'm kind of
not very close to being a tradwife in any other way.
Cause I work, I mean, I thinkit's mostly like, I guess is
Lindsay (22:03):
this like
Jordan (22:04):
if you believe in it, you're doing it.
Well, no, I know.
That's why there were twoquestions here.
So like, what are your thoughtsabout it?
So your, what would yourthoughts about trad wives in
general be?
Cause this is such a hot topicon the internet right now.
I
Lindsay (22:15):
guess like if like you, whoever's who, someone has to
stay home.
Jordan (22:22):
But that's not true because me and Adrian both work.
Someone doesn't have to stayhome, you can pick up from a
daycare.
I mean, I don't know.
This is so tricky.
She's vexed.
Lindsay (22:34):
Yeah.
It's like, this is a big topic.
Jordan (22:38):
I think that if it's someone's dream to be a tradwife
and a stay at home mom sort ofvibe.
Yeah, that's
Lindsay (22:42):
not my
Jordan (22:42):
dream, but I'm doing it.
Lindsay (22:44):
For the sake of like not paying for child care and it
allows us to travel throughoutthe year and Whatever because if
I had to request all that timeoff that would be not okay for
any employer
Jordan (22:55):
yeah.
I mean, my job, let me do thatfor like five years, but that
was, that was, I mean, I had,yeah,
Lindsay (23:04):
your husband was not here, but.
Jordan (23:09):
Tricky.
So you, in general, uh, youdon't want to be a trad wife,
but you are one.
In the role of being a homemaker
Lindsay (23:16):
right now,
Jordan (23:17):
yeah.
Lindsay (23:18):
It's not something that, like, I'm like, that was
my goal and that, like, Ibelieved that I would.
Proud about it.
Yeah,
Jordan (23:25):
but I'm not ashamed either.
I'm sure it
Lindsay (23:27):
took that being a trad wife I took away like a big
chunk is taking away a big chunkof my identity.
Let's just say that
Jordan (23:33):
yeah, that's interesting I think that's really
interesting that could be maybebe another topic we talk about
in more detail Yeah, um inanother episode, I will off the
back of that Ask you Which isanother question, would you like
to go back to work at somepoint?
Yeah You
Lindsay (23:51):
Like, you think that would be good for you?
I miss the operating roomslightly.
I don't miss Slightly.
Put me in like a medical spot,please.
And I'm happy because it's likea great schedule.
Not that the schedule has to befor my family's sake, but like
literally for me.
Like, I'm done doing call in themiddle of the night.
(24:13):
I'm done working stressfulhours.
I want to work with a greatsurgical team.
Um,
Jordan (24:19):
yeah.
That you work with regularly.
Yeah.
That's also like
Lindsay (24:23):
a structure.
I will not be going back to therestaurant.
Yeah.
I mean, I did love hospitalityfor a long time.
I think that's such a wonderfulthing, but I also, I'm a
certified, functionalnutritional coach.
Okay.
So, so that I would absolutelylove to like.
Put more effort and time intowhen I go back.
(24:45):
Cause then I can come up with myown schedule.
I just, man, I hate working forother people.
Jordan (24:51):
Yeah, it can be tough, but working for yourself is, I
mean, tough and a grind.
I'm going to go ahead and sayit's much harder.
You got to come up witheverything.
Well, like every thoughtprocess.
Yeah, my husband runs his ownbusiness and it's like, it's not
for the faint of heart.
Let's put it that way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Interesting.
So I would, yeah.
(25:11):
So what about you?
Probably not a trad wife.
Like when you like see, what'syour like a dream job?
You know what I would love to dofor work if it was possible.
I would love, if I could doanything and get paid to do it,
it would be just simply going toschool.
Like learning.
Oh my god.
Not researching.
Just straight up like, you know,learning, studying.
That's like my favorite pastime.
(25:32):
Oh that's amazing.
That or like something movementrelated.
Not necessarily like a Cirque duSoleil type person, but like if
I could do something like Somecombination of like physical
therapy and like something thatmakes it a little bit more fun.
Yeah, and like applicable toeveryone There's probably a job
out there that does that.
Yeah, that'd be really cool tolike Yeah, I just want, I would
(25:56):
want something that like forcesme to be really fit and healthy
and active and like be havingfun with other people, ideally
outside, but getting paid to doit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you know, I work in arestaurant because those jobs
are like, they're allowing,they're elusive.
Lindsay (26:14):
And they're allowing you like a schedule that you
can, well, yes.
I mean, there's a thousandreasons I work in a restaurant
still, but yes.
Jordan (26:20):
Anyway, we can push that to the side.
Oh, but I'm not a trad wife.
You are not.
But I don't have anythingagainst trad wives.
That's my, that's my answer tothe question.
It's short.
Short and sweet.
If you want to be a trad wife,you go be a trad wife.
Um, it is also a privilege to bea trad wife.
Yes it is.
I will definitely say that.
(26:41):
Not everybody has thatprivilege.
Lindsay (26:43):
Yep.
I'm putting my hands together inprayer like, thank you husband
for having me.
Your career.
Appreciate it.
Thank you so much for allowingthis situation.
I, cause like I, I do like ashard as it is and it's like not,
I mean, this is, this is likethe, this is a harder job than
it was when I was working twojobs.
(27:04):
Yeah.
Um, parenting.
Yeah.
Parenting is so much harder, butit's, it's really beautiful and
like kind of unique you know,I'm still working through like
the whole like identity thing.
Yeah.
Anyways, yeah.
All right, well, we can carryon.
Big topic.
Big topic.
Yeah.
Big topic.
All right.
Cursing in front of your kids.
Oh.
(27:25):
Do you curse in front of yourkid?
We specifically do not, say theF bomb in front of them, in
front of her.
Mm
hmm.
Mm hmm.
Ironically, like if something'sleft in the oven roasting,
that's when it comes out like,Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
That's still in the oven.
Or, oh shit.
Or yeah.
(27:46):
Then she.
She knows what we're saying,because she totally repeated it
one time after my husband saidit.
Yesterday she was saying, ohfuck, oh fuck, oh fuck.
So you do say that.
Well, I don't know where she gotit, because I don't say that in
front of her.
Oh dear.
She went across the street.
The other day and hung out andgot babysat for a few hours and
(28:06):
the house was full of kiddos.
I don't know, maybe, but I haveno idea.
And I was like, interesting.
We were coloring.
Yeah.
Just excited and happy andenergetic and was saying it over
and over.
Like, I'm like, are you saying,are you trying to say buck?
Cause we have like, Yeah, wehave European buck mounts in our
house.
(28:27):
And I was like, are you tryingto say buck?
And she ran in there, in theother room where it is, and
she's like, oh fuck.
Like, it was that clear.
So was she saying buck then?
She was.
I don't know.
She was at, but her, but her,but her word, fuck was so
precise.
Does she say buck clearly?
Yes.
Huh.
Maybe she was just, I don'tknow, man.
(28:48):
She was, I don't know.
So I was like, I don't knowwhere you got this.
Yeah.
But I think, I mean,
Jordan (28:52):
kids are going to hear cursing inevitably.
I think, yeah, me and my husbandnever really curbed it.
We just barely started to stopsaying the F word in front of
our kid.
but we still kind of do a littlebit here and there.
We don't.
I mean, yeah, I don't really, Idon't mind at this stage if she
swears a little bit.
I think the important thing isonce they get older that you
(29:14):
teach them like why we swear andhow, like how it's used and, and
how it's okay to swear and maybehow it's not okay to swear.
And for me, that would be like,if you hurt yourself and you
want to be Or something, thenthat's fine.
But if you're trying to likehurt someone else's feelings and
you're cursing at them, that'snot, you know, it's like basic
etiquette, kindness stuff.
Lindsay (29:36):
When I'm on Marco with you, I let some words.
Oh yeah.
That's could also be where she'spicking up.
I would definitely say, yeah, Idefinitely dropped those bombs.
I'm on Marco
Jordan (29:45):
Polo with you.
I just, it's her listening tome.
Lindsay (29:48):
Oh God.
It could be me too.
So there, she could be pickingit up from that.
Yeah.
Um, But yeah, I think you'reright.
I think teach the teachingeventually is about curse words
and the meanings.
And at this
Jordan (30:02):
age, if anyone's offended by a two year old
saying, oh fuck, then theyaren't somebody I need to be
like, cared about their opinion.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Alright, so the last questionthat I think we have is, What is
a bucket list item you have forthe next, like, five to ten
years as a family unit of four?
(30:23):
An item?
An item or like?
Just like, what's something youdream of doing with your family?
Like with young ish kids.
Lindsay (30:30):
So I'm pregnant right now, I'm due first week of
February, all of our birthdaysare like within a matter of like
six weeks right?
Yeah, me and my daughter are thesame and then my husband's the
following and then like, thatone will be like a month later.
Yeah, so I've talked about thiswith my husband and I've always
thought, we're right aroundChristmas, we're right into the
(30:53):
new year, it would be sowonderful to like get to a point
in our lives where we just startdoing a big trip as a family for
all of us to go on and celebrateeach other and celebrate our
birthdays.
Oh cute, like a family birthdaytrip?
Yeah.
That's a good idea.
Would you do that after
Jordan (31:09):
Christmas or would it also be a Christmas trip?
It could be either.
Yeah, it could be overChristmas.
It
Lindsay (31:13):
could be in February.
It could be in January.
I don't know.
But.
I've just talked about that withmy husband.
Like that's something I thinkmight be considered a bucket
list item is like doing a big,what would that,
Jordan (31:26):
what would the trip look like?
Where would you
Lindsay (31:27):
want to
Jordan (31:27):
go?
Lindsay (31:27):
Like if you had to decide anywhere around the
world, New Zealand, it's like myhuge bucket list, um, place to
go Europe.
I've never been to Europe.
Oh, I want to go stuff.
I know, I know.
And there's like, obviouslyreally cool places in the U S
too.
Yeah, cool Like just celebrateall of us as a family and all of
(31:48):
our birthdays and that's like mybucket list item.
Jordan (31:51):
Yeah, I love that
Lindsay (31:52):
so far
Jordan (31:54):
Shoot.
I don't have an answer for thisone.
I guess I should have thoughtabout it sooner a Bucket list
item.
Uh, you know what I would loveto do is like spend an entire
year with my family gettingreally strong rock climbing
Yeah, once everyone's all of
Lindsay (32:09):
you.
Yeah.
I mean
Jordan (32:10):
like, I don't care if my kids aren't into it as long as
they're happy to come with theselittle rock climbing trips.
Um, that would be like for mejust personally, very selfishly,
that would be like definitely mybucket list item.
I think as I go somewhere likeEpic, well, yeah, like, Ooh, I
could cross two off with one.
Here you go.
Cause I was going to just say myhusband's would be to take our
(32:33):
kids like snorkeling.
And like just generally like outon like a boat type trip.
Yeah.
but his parents, his dad's from Spain and we also
are, have been talking a lotabout taking a trip to Mallorca,
which is a Spanish island.
Oh my gosh.
That has tons of rock climbing.
That's epic.
So he and I could go like meethis parents in Spain instead of
(32:54):
in England.
Cause that would be a little bitmore
Lindsay (32:56):
fun.
That's a bucket list item placefor me and my husband to go
together.
Like on our anniversary.
Jordan (33:03):
That'd be cool.
Yeah.
I mean, I would just be down totake my kids because it, the,
yeah, the climbing's insane.
The cool ocean's insane.
Of course.
My husband's been there.
I haven't, it's, it's kind ofbeen on our list for a long
time, so that would probably benear the top of my,
Lindsay (33:16):
we're, we're on like the same like trip, trip, trip
as a family.
Yeah.
Go to cool places.
Yeah.
Jordan (33:22):
I mean, yeah, and the climbing one that I had could
totally just live in Utah.
I don't even, there's so muchgood climbing here.
I live here for a reason.
I just haven't been doing that.
Yeah.
I'm very pregnant.
Yeah.
She's craving to get back intoit.
I just want to feel my body likefeeling powerful again.
Yeah.
Oh God, I get it.
It'll happen.
(33:43):
You guys, it's going to happen.
I swear.
It will.
Lindsay (33:48):
Pregnancy
Jordan (33:48):
does end.
It does.
Lindsay (33:50):
You're planning on just having two officially, right?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Jordan (33:53):
Yeah, I'm not doing this again.
All right, so you have like onelast question, right?
I'm gonna ask it but it's likekind of how we wrap up our
episodes.
So it's our yeah, it's our lastquestion And it's also our
recommendation.
Lindsay (34:05):
Yeah, what's your next book club read?
You We just did the fourthtrimester by Kimberly Ann
Johnson.
That was a really fun one todive into and discuss.
And she listened to it.
I read it and highlighted abunch of things and we talked
about it together.
And then we talked about theepisode or talked about it on
podcast.
Now our next one, Jordan broughtthis book to my attention.
(34:27):
The person who asked thisquestion.
recommended this book as well.
Jordan (34:31):
Oh, no way.
Yes.
Oh, that's so funny.
I was like, that's ideal.
Lindsay (34:35):
Well,
Jordan (34:35):
that's definitely the one we're going to do.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Lindsay (34:38):
So this book, I just I got it recently is called How
Not to Hate Your Husband AfterKids by Jancy Dunn.
Um, just to preface, like, Ihear the title of the book is a
little, like, more strong thanthe humorous part of the book.
Is that
Jordan (34:56):
correct?
I mean, yeah, it's definitelylike the title's tongue in
cheek.
It's like, not meant to betotally taken seriously, but
then also like, have you everlike, are you telling me you've
never, maybe a little bit?
No, I'm, I'm kidding.
But, but for real, this, this isa book that I, I was recommended
this book on a podcast that acouple's therapist was, speaking
(35:20):
on and they were saying thatthey recommend it to people who
aren't even parents because theinformation in it is incredibly
valuable just for, justrelationally, just between you
and your partner.
And I was like, Oh, that soundslike a good read and all.
And then I kind of was like newinto, I think the postpartum
world and I, me and my husbandnever really had issues.
(35:41):
Like we had our mental loadstuff mostly figured out and all
that like but then but I but Ilistened to the book and I still
found so much value in it.
I'm excited to revisit it acouple years later.
Lindsay (35:50):
Yep.
I'm gonna start reading a fewpages a night Yeah.
Cause I'm not gonna have time toread this.
Dude, I don't know.
Jordan (35:57):
I have a book club next weekend and I have not even
opened the book floor.
Oh, man.
I'm like, I've been so busy, ohmy god.
You read really fast though.
I read really slowly, I justlike reading so I read a lot.
But I'm thinking I'm just goingto audiobook this one and listen
to it on my way to and from workbecause that's a decent amount
of time.
(36:17):
Cool.
Lindsay (36:18):
Anyway.
We're recommending that book,How Not to Hate Your Husband
After Kids.
It'll probably
Jordan (36:25):
be a while before we drop that episode.
It'll be like, I'm not evengoing to say when.
Yeah, I don't even know.
It's going to be in at leastfive to ten episodes, if not
more.
Yeah, yeah.
It's down the way.
You've got time to read it.
Cool.
I'll get after it.
Unless this, unless you'relistening ten years later.
I'm going to cut that.
Yeah.
Why did I say that?
I'm like, this person couldlisten to that episode tomorrow.
(36:48):
Oh, I forget how this works.
Okay.
Neat.
Lindsay (36:51):
Alright, so that's our Q& A.
That was, Random, really cool,we clearly have more topics for
episodes than we possibly had.
Like the PPA, PPD, PPOCD, andthen the TradWives thing.
Jordan (37:03):
And the, Screen time.
Oh, yeah, that's when we coulddive into some research for for
sure.
Yeah, I think yep.
Yeah, cool Well follow us.
Uh, we're uh, um, and we're
Lindsay (37:14):
instagramming We're instagramming.
We're not on x we are not on.
I mean,
Jordan (37:19):
I don't have that much time Um, so we have kids podcast
is our little handle on insta.
You can find us at we have kidspodcast.
com Uh, our website's cool.
Check it out.
Like, subscribe, whatever.
Do anything your little heartis, um, feeling tender enough to
do for us today.
And, have a nice rest of yourday.
(37:41):
Day, night, week.
Yeah, wherever you're at in yourday.
Yeah, get after
Lindsay (37:45):
it.
Jordan (37:45):
Yep.
Lindsay (37:46):
Okay.
Relax.
Just relax.
That's what I'm gonna go to.
Get some food in your belly,some hydration, and relax.
That's all I, that's all Ireally care about.
Okay.
Cheers to that.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
Q and a.
(00:00):
Q and as, Q and as.
We did a q and a poll.
Qs poll as, yeah.
Poll on Instagram
Jordan (00:10):
Okay, hello.
Hi, Lindsay.
Heyo.
Hi, how's it going?
Good.
Lindsay (00:14):
Good.
I'm feeling good right now in mysecond trimester.
I'm feeling like the last likefew days.
I'm feeling good.
Oh, good.
Babies have been great.
Yeah.
I'm feeling like good.
Jordan (00:24):
Nice.
I'm,
Lindsay (00:25):
yeah, envious.
Well, my husband's gone rightnow.
He's on a big elk hunt, and I'msleeping on the couch.
Even better.
Oh, I
Jordan (00:34):
bet.
So maybe that has something todo with it.
Yeah, probably.
I mean, sleep is definitelycritical.
Little piece.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
Well, let's uh, get into thisepisode.
We've got kind of a differentone for you today.
Yeah.
Little quick hit.
Yeah.
Lindsay (00:47):
Q and a.
Q and as, Q and as.
We did a q and a poll.
Qs poll as, yeah.
Poll on Instagram.
Y'all came in hot.
Jordan (00:55):
Yeah.
Lindsay (00:56):
So random, which is fun.
Jordan (00:57):
Yeah.
I think that was the fun.
That's like the funnest part ofjust asking everyone because
then you just get a randomlittle spray of.
Yes.
Everything.
Yeah.
Lindsay (01:08):
It's so cool.
I think we should do it againsometime.
Maybe like in the new year orsomething.
I don't know.
Jordan (01:15):
Yeah, we'll do it again, maybe in another like 10, 20
episodes.
Yeah.
Sweet.
So, yeah, we're just gonna get,I think let's just get straight
into it.
Yeah,
Lindsay (01:22):
yeah.
I was, um, I was at the airport,and uh, stuck on the runway, and
I was like Is that what promptedthis?
Yep.
I was like, let's do a funlittle Q& A.
Yeah, nice.
Um, just to kind of get itgoing.
So this was fun.
since I was, since I wastraveling.
Yeah.
First and foremost, someoneasked child leashes.
(01:44):
Child leashes?
While in airports and travel,question mark.
Straight into
Jordan (01:48):
controversy.
Lindsay (01:49):
Yeah.
Are they controversial?
Are they, I would say they'remore opinionated than
controversial, but good.
Are they a good idea for safety?
Yeah.
Yeah, what's your what?
So putting your child on aleash?
Jordan (02:01):
What's my hot take?
Yeah, I'd say it depends on theit totally depends on the kid.
I I'm gonna say I like wouldlean towards supporting this
move, especially in an airportor other crowded places.
Because if you don't have astroller, well, but even if you
do have a stroller, like yourkid doesn't like sitting in a
stroller right now.
(02:23):
So what?
You want to push her around astroller while she's like
screaming bloody murder at theairport?
I'm
Lindsay (02:27):
nervous.
I have a trip coming up.
I'm like, what am I going to do?
Jordan (02:30):
Yeah.
So that's the thing.
Like I think there are a lot oftoddlers out there or like
little kids who are not stokedto be in a stroller who are not
stoked to be held, who, youknow, like we'll squirm and
wiggle and scream.
But if they're like, Feelindependent and walking.
That they might be fine.
But you don't, but then, youknow, like some kids are
runners.
Yeah.
(02:50):
And if you've got one of those,did you got it?
You can't just like dropeverything at the airport and go
chase them.
No.
Like, especially
Lindsay (02:56):
when you're picking up in or dropping off, that's a,
that's a tricky spot for littleones.
Uh, TSA is a tricky
Jordan (03:04):
spot.
Dates are a tricky spot.
Like the whole airport's atricky spot.
And even other places likewater.
Okay.
Like, I mean, you probably, I'venever seen a kid on a leash at a
water park, but like a waterpark or like an amusement park,
holy smokes.
I think
Lindsay (03:17):
this all depends on like what the kid is like.
Jordan (03:19):
Yeah.
For sure.
Yep.
For sure.
If they can handle a stroller,then a stroller might be a
better option.
If they can't and they just wantto be running around and they're
like content enough on a leashthen for safe, dude, your, your
job as a parent, number one issafety.
Yep.
For sure.
Yeah.
And if your kid's going to getlost or run away from you and
that's like the best way thatyou have, or like, think of
(03:42):
this, maybe there's a parent whohas like a disability of some
kind.
Like I'm pregnant as fuck rightnow.
And I, I couldn't chase my kidif she weren't running full
speed.
You'd have to have somebody likewith
Lindsay (03:54):
you if you were out and about.
Yeah, totally.
There's no way you could go out.
Jordan (03:57):
No.
And she's happy in a stroller,but like my sister has a couple
boys who are like almost fourand two and a half, and we were
camping with them last night andthey would run off, dude.
And I couldn't even, like, Iwanted to help, but I was like,
if that was my kid, I'd bescrewed.
Wow.
And I totally put them on aleash over letting them run into
the road.
They make them cute, they domake them like, they make them
(04:20):
look like little animals.
They make them cute.
They do, like the kids can getall into it.
Yeah, the little like backpackones, I've seen those, those can
Lindsay (04:27):
be useful.
Yeah, my husband in the 90s, hewas a little guy and he had a
leash.
Jordan (04:32):
Yeah?
Lindsay (04:34):
He was a leash kid.
Was he a runner?
He must have been, I know he wasvery like an, he was a very
active kiddo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, his mom was just like,thought it was the greatest
thing that was ever invented forher.
And she was not going to like,leave her kid.
Yeah.
No Roman, like crazy like that.
So
Jordan (04:53):
safety first, everyone.
Yeah.
If that's what it takes, noone's here.
I mean, I'm not here judgingyou.
Lindsay (04:59):
You feel, yeah.
Keep your kids safe.
Yep.
I would do it if I
Jordan (05:05):
had to.
Yeah man, definitely.
What chores do you let yourtoddler help with around the
house?
Clean, clean, clean.
Clean, clean, clean.
She loves it.
Lindsay (05:15):
Yeah?
She goes right to the drawer inthe kitchen on the bottom with
all the rags.
Yeah, that's one of my kidsfavorites, too.
No, she does it on her own.
She spills water, she goes tothat drawer and grabs it.
So, cleaning is one of herfavorites.
100 percent like cleaning up,cleaning up spills.
I give her like a little, littleSwiffer duster thing.
Oh, nice.
That's clever.
She, she's not a huge fan ofhearing the vacuum, but when I
(05:38):
give her the duster while I'mvacuuming, then she feels like
she's part of like the wholething.
Jordan (05:43):
So all about it.
Yeah, that's great.
My=kid does the same thing withlittle spills and the, and the
towel drawer in our kitchen.
she's also getting to the pointwhere.
I'll ask her to pick up her, youknow, blocks or her whatever,
like, toy she's playing with andput it away before we move on to
the next thing and she's gettingreally good at it.
Yeah, oh cool.
Like, 80 percent of the time.
Lindsay (06:04):
Yeah, we do that, like, before bedtime, we do, like, a
big family, like, pick up.
Yeah.
Nice.
Or put it away, and she's goodat saying put it away.
Cute.
So, yeah.
Chores for kids are awesome.
Yeah,
Jordan (06:15):
they are great.
Um, my kid also likes to helpwith laundry.
Help, help with maybe like alittle bit of a stretch.
We do that
Lindsay (06:24):
too.
But she
Jordan (06:25):
does, she's really good about like if I'm sorting a
bunch of laundry, she'll puthers in her basket and then take
it to her room.
So that's a good one for kiddosto help with.
And then cooking.
Oh, fun.
Isn't really a chore, but kindof is.
Definitely a really fun one fortoddlers to help out with.
Yes,
Lindsay (06:43):
You guys probably utilized the, uh, kitchen
counter tower thing.
Oh, the little like steppingstool one?
Yeah, yeah.
Yep, definitely.
I don't
Jordan (06:52):
know, I mean, I don't know.
It's like a stool.
Tower stool.
It's like a stool that has likea little.
Yeah.
Please walk up to it and thenthey're at the counter helping
you out.
My brain's done.
You guys know what we're talkingabout, right?
Can we stop?
I bring
Lindsay (07:07):
that up to the washing machine too because we have a
top loader and then she like,throws the dirty clothes in and
then we just bring it to thekitchen sometimes.
So yeah, those are fun.
Fun little chores for the kids.
Jordan (07:16):
Yeah, and they feel really good about doing it.
I've heard, like, having thembring the mail in even, like,
all these things can reallycontribute to their sense of
independence and value.
Yeah, they feel like they're,yeah,
Lindsay (07:26):
you're all part of a team.
Totally.
Another question we have here iswhat's your experience or advice
for PPD, PPA, PPOCD?
Oof.
That is probably going to belike one big episode really
soon.
I was going to say, like, wecould totally do, oh my god,
(07:47):
like part one, part two.
It's so much information, butit's so obviously so important
to discuss because these arequestions that other moms are
having.
Jordan (07:57):
Yeah, definitely.
So what, like, I mean, you'vetalked about your experience
with PPD.
Lindsay (08:02):
Did you say you had PPA?
I had PPA and PPOCD.
Jordan (08:05):
You had
Lindsay (08:06):
PPOCD?
Oh, yes.
Oh, geez, I don't think I knewthat.
And I think that's whattriggered my PPA.
Okay, interesting.
And I think that this came fromworking in the operating room,
being so in charge of thesterile field, and like
everybody having what they need,and like I took that home with
me, and I was like, I have tohave six bottles at all times.
(08:27):
I guess that's true, you didkind of go a little wild with
that.
And so like, that to me kind ofis like OCD.
Yeah.
And I, you know.
It, it turned into a little bitof PPA and then I was like, this
is too much for Lindsay tohandle.
Yeah.
So let, so I had it for a shortperiod of time, PPA.
I would love to discuss thatmore in an episode, but they
(08:51):
are, They can all blendtogether.
Jordan (08:54):
Yeah.
If you will.
I, yeah, I can definitely seethat.
I think that a cool episodewould be to, for us to talk
about that.
in the preparation for you, likethe lead up to your delivery.
Oh, yes.
And just talk about, like, waysthat Yeah, we could do that.
That you can, like, preemptively
Lindsay (09:08):
Yeah.
Cause then you'll be like freshinto postpartum.
Maybe you'll have like a newexperience or something.
Jordan (09:14):
Yeah.
That's, that's a hard questionfor me to answer because I
didn't experience any of those,but I, which I feel very lucky
about for sure.
Those don't happen for you.
Yeah, and you know they couldlike there are different factors
at play that I've looked intolike one of the questions that I
had was does your chance of anyof those three things increase
with like a second kid, right?
(09:35):
And it's like the answer wasthat not necessarily like if you
have had it, then there's agreater chance you'll have it
again, obviously, but maybethat's not obvious felt kind of
obvious.
Yeah.
but the other factors are morelikely like sleep deprivation.
If you already have, forexample, a toddler at home or,
you know, like not gettingenough support for like the
(09:56):
other people in your family,like, you know, it just,
everything gets more complicatedwith more kids.
And as a result, Your chancesincrease slightly, I think, but,
but ultimately the answer islike, not really.
So
Lindsay (10:08):
that's something.
Yeah.
This will be a good one todiscuss.
So we will get to this cause Ihave experience in it.
I will say I talked a lot aboutDeemer in episode one, I think.
Just to preface that has that isnot related to postpartum
depression Yeah, okay, so that'slike its
Jordan (10:27):
own like little so would you say you didn't have
postpartum depression was justlike no
Lindsay (10:33):
Maybe if I if I did I don't know if it was necessarily
postpartum depression or if itwas like the winter blues You
know, some, some kind of like,all kind of like blending
together.
Yeah.
But I wouldn't say I was like, Iwasn't, I think PPA and PPOCD
really took it over for me.
(10:53):
I didn't feel like the need tolike, do it.
address postpartum depression.
I felt more need to address PPAand PPOCD and then I felt so
much better.
Jordan (11:02):
Interesting.
So just really quick, what wasthe experience of the anxiety
like for you?
Like, was it coming up in theform of like thoughts that you
couldn't get under control orfeelings in your body?
Was it more like mental orphysiological?
Lindsay (11:16):
Um, I would say probably physiological.
I definitely could feel thatmore in my body.
Like if I did not, you guys, ifI did not have her room ready to
go.
Or like perfect for the everysingle time I entered it it
would I knew I was gonna getanxious And I didn't want to
derail and I wanted her roomlike perfectly set up Yeah shit
(11:39):
for me to enter that nighttime Iwanted like I said six bottles
in the fridge ready for me to goat all times I just did not want
to like feel like I was flailingand like overwhelmed or hurried
or any of that.
Which is
Jordan (11:54):
ironic because you probably felt a lot more
overwhelmed like with all thatextra set up and like just the
pressure that you put onyourself to have that ready to
go.
Don't you think?
Let's not.
Okay.
Oh man, I
Lindsay (12:09):
could listen to her whole album right now.
Jordan (12:11):
Yeah.
It's 90s.
It's swinging right back aroundat us, man.
Yeah, it is.
Uh oh.
Alright, um, yeah, so we'lladdress those in their own full
episode.
Yeah.
We'll get there.
They deserve it.
Yep.
Lindsay (12:23):
what are some unpopular parenting opinions?
Oh boy.
This was kind of It's a bigquestion.
This was a big question becausethere's so many.
Dude, this is another
Jordan (12:35):
episode by itself.
I
Lindsay (12:36):
like only picked five.
Okay.
I like researched and I thoughtof some of my own.
And I like, I could have lookedat this all day long and just
seen like what people like wereputting, you know, like putting
out there on Reddit or puttingout there on, um, yeah.
Reddit.
The black hole.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what would you say is your,like if you had one?
(12:57):
Car seats are not hard toinstall.
Why do people even tell me that?
Why do companies tell me that?
Because they were, they are
Jordan (13:04):
like, so easy installation.
You think that's like a myth?
Lindsay (13:09):
They're, they make it so easy, but here's the, I think
here's the issue.
You have the straps that need tobe in a certain position, right?
Yeah.
what else?
Like all the safety featuresthat come with it, like,
obviously like they have to bethis poundage, this height to go
that direction and then like,you know, Overwhelming of which
(13:30):
one to choose and Then like alsothe pressure of like well I have
the Nuna or I have the Duna or Ihave just get the great go it
doesn't matter you know like youhave just like a stupid amount
of Brands to choose from andthen you go to like maybe you
want to go get it at a store andhave a certified car seat person
(13:50):
That's going to go through itall with you.
And then that's for some reasonfeels overwhelming, but it's
wonderful to like, when I put itin, I can take it to that store
and I'm like, she can likeoverlook it and everything.
Thank God.
But the owner's manual is sothese companies that are like
trying to show you how easy,even like YouTube videos that
(14:13):
show you how easy it is.
That's reassuring that we haveYouTube, but They are not, they
are so hard to put.
To like, manage and put in andfigure out.
It's a whole thing.
Jordan (14:25):
Yeah, I sort of generally agree with you.
I think that the ones that I'vehad have actually been Uh,
pretty easy to install, but eventhe easy ones to install, I
think the pressure to get itright.
Oh my gosh.
And then like my husband, ourdriveway's
Lindsay (14:38):
kind of on a slope.
So the stupid bubble that issupposed to be in the center
doesn't work on the thing.
Isn't So then you're thinking toyourself like, it's not in the
center.
Oh my God.
Like it's just, yeah, there's alot.
So silly.
Yeah.
There, there is a lot.
But again, safety first.
I know, right?
Right.
So it's just like a big order.
Yeah.
And then I, I'll, I'll chime inon one more that is interesting.
(14:59):
Okay.
Kids don't belong in the dogpark.
Jordan (15:01):
That's an interesting one.
So I don't have a dog.
And so I don't have a lot tospeak of.
Have you ever, have you had adog growing up or anything?
So I, yeah, that's maybe a storythat doesn't need to be told on
the podcast.
It was a short lived, uh, yeah,it was sad.
Lindsay (15:17):
I always had dogs growing up.
Yes, I brought my dog to a.
Dog park and I'm glad at thetime there were no children
there
Jordan (15:24):
because it's a safety thing again, probably right?
Yeah, what is it or is it justlike yeah, it's more like as a
dog parent to not to have likeYeah, cuz you just don't
Lindsay (15:32):
know where the kids
Jordan (15:33):
are
Lindsay (15:33):
gonna like pull at the you know, go to the dog's face.
That's true You know, it's awonderful world that we have
dogs and that like children anddogs can like coexist But maybe
not at the dog park I'm gonnaagree that kids don't belong in
the dog park.
Jordan (15:49):
I mean it's kind of like taking, I mean it's, I guess
it's, is it like taking dogs tothe kid park?
What do you think about that?
Lindsay (15:57):
I
Jordan (15:57):
don't know.
Lindsay (15:59):
Like if you're having a picnic way off to the side and
your dog is beha, like wellbehaved and trained to like be
over on the side at your picnicwith another person, that's kind
of cute.
Jordan (16:10):
Yeah.
And fine.
I I've never felt threatened bydogs at kid parks, but then I
can see, I mean, obviouslythere's room for disaster.
Lindsay (16:18):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know that the only thingI can make, I guess, I don't
bring my dog to the kid's parkfor a reason.
Just because I'm trying to like,watch my kid and interact with
her.
Jordan (16:31):
Yeah, that's fair.
Screen time is another one thatis like, okay, so the, the, but
the hot take specifically isthat, And this is, I do kind of,
I'm going to say I kind of agreewith this hot take.
And that's that being antiscreen time is a privilege.
Like, I think screen time, wedon't love it for our kid.
(16:52):
She gets, I mean, she getsscreen time.
It's not like we don't like lether watch any at all.
Cause I think there's definitelylike a balance to be struck.
And this is its own episode too,to be totally honest.
Um, but I think in general, Iagree that it is definitely a
privilege.
Um, some parents just don't havetime to get anything done
without.
(17:12):
And you can be like, Oh, but youcan give your kid like another
activity.
You've got to set that otheractivity up.
They might not engage with it.
Like, what if you've gotsomething that's time sensitive?
Like it's, it's a pretty likeuniversally true thing that a
show will entertain your kid.
And there are quality programsout there that you can put on
for your kid too.
Yeah, they're fine.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Lindsay (17:31):
I, uh, I would say I was probably more opinionated
about this before I had kids,which is funny.
And I don't think that'suncommon.
I think that's because you and Iworked in the restaurant world
and we're like, we'll never putour kids, you know, never do
that to our kids.
Yeah.
Well, once I had a kid, I waslike, you have no idea what kind
of day that parent had.
(17:52):
All is fine.
Jordan (17:53):
Yeah, and maybe they have only gone out to eat once
that whole year.
Yeah.
And they didn't have anyone towatch their kid.
Yes.
And they wanted just a moment tothemselves.
Yeah, it's all good.
Yeah.
Like,
Lindsay (18:03):
yeah.
My child, she gets screen time,I would say maybe once or twice
a week, but it's because I havestuff, I have, I have shit to
do.
Jordan (18:12):
And I also will throw in there that I'm very pregnant
right now, and I was sick lastweek, and being pregnant and
sick meant that my kid waslaying on the couch next to me
watching her show while I took anap because I needed it, man.
My
Lindsay (18:26):
daughter had the, had a little bit of sickness too, and
she, Was so upset and like needyand in a not bad way.
I don't, I don't say needy in abad way.
Like, she had to be held and hadto be picked up and like, there
was no way.
So I was like, you know what?
We're going to have some milkand we're just going to watch
Peppa Pig for a little bit andrelax.
Everything's going to be fine.
(18:46):
It's all going to be fine.
Yep.
Okay Another one.
Oh, you don't need a themednursery.
I agree with that.
A themed nursery?
Yeah.
That's silly.
You know, like how, if you go onPinterest To think that you
would need one.
Yeah, I think I'm not sayingthey're silly in general.
I'm just saying, like It's,yeah, like, the whole idea of,
oh my gosh, like, we're havinga, say it's your first, and
(19:07):
you're like, I need, need to dothis, and you do not.
Yeah, I know.
But I think there's, like, aweird, like, Pinterest y
pressure.
I definitely got sucked downthat hole when I was setting up
the
Jordan (19:17):
nursery for my kid.
Lindsay (19:18):
I can see how it It could be fun for like some
parents that really want to dothat.
That's cool.
And if that makes you happy, gofor it uh, toddlers don't need
formal learning every day.
Example, like flashcards.
Oh, yeah.
And, and have more unstructuredplay.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Yep.
For
Jordan (19:35):
sure.
Yeah.
Toddlers are learning, oh mygod, dude.
So much from play.
All day.
And, and everything else, dude.
My kid's picking up crazy wordsfrom just me and my husband
having a conversation.
Like, she's not even beingattended to and she's like, just
absolutely a sponge.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Kids don't need as much as wethink they do.
No.
No.
That's for
Lindsay (19:54):
sure.
Absolutely not.
Jordan (19:56):
I've got a question.
Okay.
This one is probably more foryou than for me.
Oh.
What are your thoughts abouttradwives?
Do you consider yourself to beone?
Lindsay (20:06):
Yeah,
Jordan (20:07):
uh,
Lindsay (20:08):
Okay.
I mean, not yeah, as in yes, Iam one.
Trad wives.
Do you, are you familiar withthat?
I, so is this the whole thinglike where it's like gender
roles?
Yeah, basically.
I don't believe in that.
I would leave kind of away fromthat, but ironically, in my
(20:28):
home, like my husband Like youare a tradwife.
Like my, like my husband is thebreadwinner in our home right
now because I'm staying home.
Yeah.
And I'm doing like the homeythings.
Yeah.
Which has been kind of liketradwifey for like Tell me
Jordan (20:43):
about, tell me about what homey things you're doing.
Lindsay (20:45):
Oh my gosh.
No, I, dude, you're going to letthose, my husband's great when
he is directed to help me withthings.
Um, but right now I am likefucking cleaning and like
(21:07):
quilting.
Yeah, I guess I am quilting.
Well, no, he's canning.
Okay.
I'm just helping with that.
He's canning.
Who cooks, who
Jordan (21:15):
cooks every, who, talk to me about your meal times.
Lindsay (21:19):
Meal times?
Uh, we do our own breakfasts.
And then obviously like I manageme and my daughter's like lunch
and then I manage our dinnerstoo.
And I like he, but he and I havelike full open conversations
like what should we do fordinner?
Should we just order in or outor whatever?
He cooks too.
He is.
He for sure cooks too.
He totally loves to cook.
Yeah.
But I'm totally like more like,I guess, is this also blending
(21:43):
in with like mental load?
Oh God.
Like for like preparation oflike the home and the child and
like us as a couple.
Yeah.
Because If that blends in,
Jordan (21:54):
but if that blends in, I'm a trad wife and I'm kind of
not very close to being a tradwife in any other way.
Cause I work, I mean, I thinkit's mostly like, I guess is
Lindsay (22:03):
this like
Jordan (22:04):
if you believe in it, you're doing it.
Well, no, I know.
That's why there were twoquestions here.
So like, what are your thoughtsabout it?
So your, what would yourthoughts about trad wives in
general be?
Cause this is such a hot topicon the internet right now.
I
Lindsay (22:15):
guess like if like you, whoever's who, someone has to
stay home.
Jordan (22:22):
But that's not true because me and Adrian both work.
Someone doesn't have to stayhome, you can pick up from a
daycare.
I mean, I don't know.
This is so tricky.
She's vexed.
Lindsay (22:34):
Yeah.
It's like, this is a big topic.
Jordan (22:38):
I think that if it's someone's dream to be a tradwife
and a stay at home mom sort ofvibe.
Yeah, that's
Lindsay (22:42):
not my
Jordan (22:42):
dream, but I'm doing it.
Lindsay (22:44):
For the sake of like not paying for child care and it
allows us to travel throughoutthe year and Whatever because if
I had to request all that timeoff that would be not okay for
any employer
Jordan (22:55):
yeah.
I mean, my job, let me do thatfor like five years, but that
was, that was, I mean, I had,yeah,
Lindsay (23:04):
your husband was not here, but.
Jordan (23:09):
Tricky.
So you, in general, uh, youdon't want to be a trad wife,
but you are one.
In the role of being a homemaker
Lindsay (23:16):
right now,
Jordan (23:17):
yeah.
Lindsay (23:18):
It's not something that, like, I'm like, that was
my goal and that, like, Ibelieved that I would.
Proud about it.
Yeah,
Jordan (23:25):
but I'm not ashamed either.
I'm sure it
Lindsay (23:27):
took that being a trad wife I took away like a big
chunk is taking away a big chunkof my identity.
Let's just say that
Jordan (23:33):
yeah, that's interesting I think that's really
interesting that could be maybebe another topic we talk about
in more detail Yeah, um inanother episode, I will off the
back of that Ask you Which isanother question, would you like
to go back to work at somepoint?
Yeah You
Lindsay (23:51):
Like, you think that would be good for you?
I miss the operating roomslightly.
I don't miss Slightly.
Put me in like a medical spot,please.
And I'm happy because it's likea great schedule.
Not that the schedule has to befor my family's sake, but like
literally for me.
Like, I'm done doing call in themiddle of the night.
(24:13):
I'm done working stressfulhours.
I want to work with a greatsurgical team.
Um,
Jordan (24:19):
yeah.
That you work with regularly.
Yeah.
That's also like
Lindsay (24:23):
a structure.
I will not be going back to therestaurant.
Yeah.
I mean, I did love hospitalityfor a long time.
I think that's such a wonderfulthing, but I also, I'm a
certified, functionalnutritional coach.
Okay.
So, so that I would absolutelylove to like.
Put more effort and time intowhen I go back.
(24:45):
Cause then I can come up with myown schedule.
I just, man, I hate working forother people.
Jordan (24:51):
Yeah, it can be tough, but working for yourself is, I
mean, tough and a grind.
I'm going to go ahead and sayit's much harder.
You got to come up witheverything.
Well, like every thoughtprocess.
Yeah, my husband runs his ownbusiness and it's like, it's not
for the faint of heart.
Let's put it that way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Interesting.
So I would, yeah.
(25:11):
So what about you?
Probably not a trad wife.
Like when you like see, what'syour like a dream job?
You know what I would love to dofor work if it was possible.
I would love, if I could doanything and get paid to do it,
it would be just simply going toschool.
Like learning.
Oh my god.
Not researching.
Just straight up like, you know,learning, studying.
That's like my favorite pastime.
(25:32):
Oh that's amazing.
That or like something movementrelated.
Not necessarily like a Cirque duSoleil type person, but like if
I could do something like Somecombination of like physical
therapy and like something thatmakes it a little bit more fun.
Yeah, and like applicable toeveryone There's probably a job
out there that does that.
Yeah, that'd be really cool tolike Yeah, I just want, I would
(25:56):
want something that like forcesme to be really fit and healthy
and active and like be havingfun with other people, ideally
outside, but getting paid to doit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you know, I work in arestaurant because those jobs
are like, they're allowing,they're elusive.
Lindsay (26:14):
And they're allowing you like a schedule that you
can, well, yes.
I mean, there's a thousandreasons I work in a restaurant
still, but yes.
Jordan (26:20):
Anyway, we can push that to the side.
Oh, but I'm not a trad wife.
You are not.
But I don't have anythingagainst trad wives.
That's my, that's my answer tothe question.
It's short.
Short and sweet.
If you want to be a trad wife,you go be a trad wife.
Um, it is also a privilege to bea trad wife.
Yes it is.
I will definitely say that.
(26:41):
Not everybody has thatprivilege.
Lindsay (26:43):
Yep.
I'm putting my hands together inprayer like, thank you husband
for having me.
Your career.
Appreciate it.
Thank you so much for allowingthis situation.
I, cause like I, I do like ashard as it is and it's like not,
I mean, this is, this is likethe, this is a harder job than
it was when I was working twojobs.
(27:04):
Yeah.
Um, parenting.
Yeah.
Parenting is so much harder, butit's, it's really beautiful and
like kind of unique you know,I'm still working through like
the whole like identity thing.
Yeah.
Anyways, yeah.
All right, well, we can carryon.
Big topic.
Big topic.
Yeah.
Big topic.
All right.
Cursing in front of your kids.
Oh.
(27:25):
Do you curse in front of yourkid?
We specifically do not, say theF bomb in front of them, in
front of her.
Mm
hmm.
Mm hmm.
Ironically, like if something'sleft in the oven roasting,
that's when it comes out like,Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
That's still in the oven.
Or, oh shit.
Or yeah.
(27:46):
Then she.
She knows what we're saying,because she totally repeated it
one time after my husband saidit.
Yesterday she was saying, ohfuck, oh fuck, oh fuck.
So you do say that.
Well, I don't know where she gotit, because I don't say that in
front of her.
Oh dear.
She went across the street.
The other day and hung out andgot babysat for a few hours and
(28:06):
the house was full of kiddos.
I don't know, maybe, but I haveno idea.
And I was like, interesting.
We were coloring.
Yeah.
Just excited and happy andenergetic and was saying it over
and over.
Like, I'm like, are you saying,are you trying to say buck?
Cause we have like, Yeah, wehave European buck mounts in our
house.
(28:27):
And I was like, are you tryingto say buck?
And she ran in there, in theother room where it is, and
she's like, oh fuck.
Like, it was that clear.
So was she saying buck then?
She was.
I don't know.
She was at, but her, but her,but her word, fuck was so
precise.
Does she say buck clearly?
Yes.
Huh.
Maybe she was just, I don'tknow, man.
(28:48):
She was, I don't know.
So I was like, I don't knowwhere you got this.
Yeah.
But I think, I mean,
Jordan (28:52):
kids are going to hear cursing inevitably.
I think, yeah, me and my husbandnever really curbed it.
We just barely started to stopsaying the F word in front of
our kid.
but we still kind of do a littlebit here and there.
We don't.
I mean, yeah, I don't really, Idon't mind at this stage if she
swears a little bit.
I think the important thing isonce they get older that you
(29:14):
teach them like why we swear andhow, like how it's used and, and
how it's okay to swear and maybehow it's not okay to swear.
And for me, that would be like,if you hurt yourself and you
want to be Or something, thenthat's fine.
But if you're trying to likehurt someone else's feelings and
you're cursing at them, that'snot, you know, it's like basic
etiquette, kindness stuff.
Lindsay (29:36):
When I'm on Marco with you, I let some words.
Oh yeah.
That's could also be where she'spicking up.
I would definitely say, yeah, Idefinitely dropped those bombs.
I'm on Marco
Jordan (29:45):
Polo with you.
I just, it's her listening tome.
Lindsay (29:48):
Oh God.
It could be me too.
So there, she could be pickingit up from that.
Yeah.
Um, But yeah, I think you'reright.
I think teach the teachingeventually is about curse words
and the meanings.
And at this
Jordan (30:02):
age, if anyone's offended by a two year old
saying, oh fuck, then theyaren't somebody I need to be
like, cared about their opinion.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Alright, so the last questionthat I think we have is, What is
a bucket list item you have forthe next, like, five to ten
years as a family unit of four?
(30:23):
An item?
An item or like?
Just like, what's something youdream of doing with your family?
Like with young ish kids.
Lindsay (30:30):
So I'm pregnant right now, I'm due first week of
February, all of our birthdaysare like within a matter of like
six weeks right?
Yeah, me and my daughter are thesame and then my husband's the
following and then like, thatone will be like a month later.
Yeah, so I've talked about thiswith my husband and I've always
thought, we're right aroundChristmas, we're right into the
(30:53):
new year, it would be sowonderful to like get to a point
in our lives where we just startdoing a big trip as a family for
all of us to go on and celebrateeach other and celebrate our
birthdays.
Oh cute, like a family birthdaytrip?
Yeah.
That's a good idea.
Would you do that after
Jordan (31:09):
Christmas or would it also be a Christmas trip?
It could be either.
Yeah, it could be overChristmas.
It
Lindsay (31:13):
could be in February.
It could be in January.
I don't know.
But.
I've just talked about that withmy husband.
Like that's something I thinkmight be considered a bucket
list item is like doing a big,what would that,
Jordan (31:26):
what would the trip look like?
Where would you
Lindsay (31:27):
want to
Jordan (31:27):
go?
Lindsay (31:27):
Like if you had to decide anywhere around the
world, New Zealand, it's like myhuge bucket list, um, place to
go Europe.
I've never been to Europe.
Oh, I want to go stuff.
I know, I know.
And there's like, obviouslyreally cool places in the U S
too.
Yeah, cool Like just celebrateall of us as a family and all of
(31:48):
our birthdays and that's like mybucket list item.
Jordan (31:51):
Yeah, I love that
Lindsay (31:52):
so far
Jordan (31:54):
Shoot.
I don't have an answer for thisone.
I guess I should have thoughtabout it sooner a Bucket list
item.
Uh, you know what I would loveto do is like spend an entire
year with my family gettingreally strong rock climbing
Yeah, once everyone's all of
Lindsay (32:09):
you.
Yeah.
I mean
Jordan (32:10):
like, I don't care if my kids aren't into it as long as
they're happy to come with theselittle rock climbing trips.
Um, that would be like for mejust personally, very selfishly,
that would be like definitely mybucket list item.
I think as I go somewhere likeEpic, well, yeah, like, Ooh, I
could cross two off with one.
Here you go.
Cause I was going to just say myhusband's would be to take our
(32:33):
kids like snorkeling.
And like just generally like outon like a boat type trip.
Yeah.
but his parents, his dad's from Spain and we also
are, have been talking a lotabout taking a trip to Mallorca,
which is a Spanish island.
Oh my gosh.
That has tons of rock climbing.
That's epic.
So he and I could go like meethis parents in Spain instead of
(32:54):
in England.
Cause that would be a little bitmore
Lindsay (32:56):
fun.
That's a bucket list item placefor me and my husband to go
together.
Like on our anniversary.
Jordan (33:03):
That'd be cool.
Yeah.
I mean, I would just be down totake my kids because it, the,
yeah, the climbing's insane.
The cool ocean's insane.
Of course.
My husband's been there.
I haven't, it's, it's kind ofbeen on our list for a long
time, so that would probably benear the top of my,
Lindsay (33:16):
we're, we're on like the same like trip, trip, trip
as a family.
Yeah.
Go to cool places.
Yeah.
Jordan (33:22):
I mean, yeah, and the climbing one that I had could
totally just live in Utah.
I don't even, there's so muchgood climbing here.
I live here for a reason.
I just haven't been doing that.
Yeah.
I'm very pregnant.
Yeah.
She's craving to get back intoit.
I just want to feel my body likefeeling powerful again.
Yeah.
Oh God, I get it.
It'll happen.
(33:43):
You guys, it's going to happen.
I swear.
It will.
Lindsay (33:48):
Pregnancy
Jordan (33:48):
does end.
It does.
Lindsay (33:50):
You're planning on just having two officially, right?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Jordan (33:53):
Yeah, I'm not doing this again.
All right, so you have like onelast question, right?
I'm gonna ask it but it's likekind of how we wrap up our
episodes.
So it's our yeah, it's our lastquestion And it's also our
recommendation.
Lindsay (34:05):
Yeah, what's your next book club read?
You We just did the fourthtrimester by Kimberly Ann
Johnson.
That was a really fun one todive into and discuss.
And she listened to it.
I read it and highlighted abunch of things and we talked
about it together.
And then we talked about theepisode or talked about it on
podcast.
Now our next one, Jordan broughtthis book to my attention.
(34:27):
The person who asked thisquestion.
recommended this book as well.
Jordan (34:31):
Oh, no way.
Yes.
Oh, that's so funny.
I was like, that's ideal.
Lindsay (34:35):
Well,
Jordan (34:35):
that's definitely the one we're going to do.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Lindsay (34:38):
So this book, I just I got it recently is called How
Not to Hate Your Husband AfterKids by Jancy Dunn.
Um, just to preface, like, Ihear the title of the book is a
little, like, more strong thanthe humorous part of the book.
Is that
Jordan (34:56):
correct?
I mean, yeah, it's definitelylike the title's tongue in
cheek.
It's like, not meant to betotally taken seriously, but
then also like, have you everlike, are you telling me you've
never, maybe a little bit?
No, I'm, I'm kidding.
But, but for real, this, this isa book that I, I was recommended
this book on a podcast that acouple's therapist was, speaking
(35:20):
on and they were saying thatthey recommend it to people who
aren't even parents because theinformation in it is incredibly
valuable just for, justrelationally, just between you
and your partner.
And I was like, Oh, that soundslike a good read and all.
And then I kind of was like newinto, I think the postpartum
world and I, me and my husbandnever really had issues.
(35:41):
Like we had our mental loadstuff mostly figured out and all
that like but then but I but Ilistened to the book and I still
found so much value in it.
I'm excited to revisit it acouple years later.
Lindsay (35:50):
Yep.
I'm gonna start reading a fewpages a night Yeah.
Cause I'm not gonna have time toread this.
Dude, I don't know.
Jordan (35:57):
I have a book club next weekend and I have not even
opened the book floor.
Oh, man.
I'm like, I've been so busy, ohmy god.
You read really fast though.
I read really slowly, I justlike reading so I read a lot.
But I'm thinking I'm just goingto audiobook this one and listen
to it on my way to and from workbecause that's a decent amount
of time.
(36:17):
Cool.
Lindsay (36:18):
Anyway.
We're recommending that book,How Not to Hate Your Husband
After Kids.
It'll probably
Jordan (36:25):
be a while before we drop that episode.
It'll be like, I'm not evengoing to say when.
Yeah, I don't even know.
It's going to be in at leastfive to ten episodes, if not
more.
Yeah, yeah.
It's down the way.
You've got time to read it.
Cool.
I'll get after it.
Unless this, unless you'relistening ten years later.
I'm going to cut that.
Yeah.
Why did I say that?
I'm like, this person couldlisten to that episode tomorrow.
(36:48):
Oh, I forget how this works.
Okay.
Neat.
Lindsay (36:51):
Alright, so that's our Q& A.
That was, Random, really cool,we clearly have more topics for
episodes than we possibly had.
Like the PPA, PPD, PPOCD, andthen the TradWives thing.
Jordan (37:03):
And the, Screen time.
Oh, yeah, that's when we coulddive into some research for for
sure.
Yeah, I think yep.
Yeah, cool Well follow us.
Uh, we're uh, um, and we're
Lindsay (37:14):
instagramming We're instagramming.
We're not on x we are not on.
I mean,
Jordan (37:19):
I don't have that much time Um, so we have kids podcast
is our little handle on insta.
You can find us at we have kidspodcast.
com Uh, our website's cool.
Check it out.
Like, subscribe, whatever.
Do anything your little heartis, um, feeling tender enough to
do for us today.
And, have a nice rest of yourday.
(37:41):
Day, night, week.
Yeah, wherever you're at in yourday.
Yeah, get after
Lindsay (37:45):
it.
Jordan (37:45):
Yep.
Lindsay (37:46):
Okay.
Relax.
Just relax.
That's what I'm gonna go to.
Get some food in your belly,some hydration, and relax.
That's all I, that's all Ireally care about.
Okay.
Cheers to that.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
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