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'Tis the season for all things Christmas - lights, trees, gifts, treats, and that extra heavy dose of mom-brain. One of us has a new baby at home, the other has a new baby cooking, and neither can form a proper sentence (but we did at least try!). Get a little mug of your favorite warm holiday drink and join us for a chat about our most-loved holiday traditions, old and new. And have yourselves a merry little whatever holiday you celebrate. 

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Jordan (00:00):
this is the most divisive Christmas tradition out

(00:02):
there.
I think that I've seen newpeople get so hot about this
Elf.
Yes.
And maybe we don't quiteunderstand that because we
haven't fully engaged with it asa tradition yet.
Right.

Lindsay (00:23):
Hello, everybody.
Hi.
Hi.
Happy Sunday.
Happy

Jordan (00:28):
day.
Do I look like a zombie?
Do I look like a zombie?
You sound and look a bit like azombie.

Lindsay (00:34):
2 48 a.
m.
is when you woke up for the day?
Yep.
Oh.

Jordan (00:40):
Oh, yucky.

Lindsay (00:40):
So I'm feeling it for sure today.
Yeah, but,

Jordan (00:43):
and my baby's feeling it upstairs.
If y'all can hear a babyscreaming in the background,
that's my baby.
Yeah.
Um, he's uh, He's probablyhungry.
I don't know, I fed him prettyrecently I feel like, so.

Lindsay (00:54):
I dappled into re listening to our self care
episode.

Jordan (00:59):
Because I'm like

Lindsay (01:00):
trying to think like what I could do and remind
myself of my own words and yourwords, too, of what I can do
this next month.
Yeah.
Take our own advice.
And so I'm curious, now that youhave two, and I know that
you're, you're eight weeks outfrom having him.
Seven.
Yeah.

Jordan (01:19):
Eight today.

Lindsay (01:20):
I think.
Okay.
Seven or eight.
How are you feeling?
For what are, excuse me, how,well, yeah.
How are you feeling eight weeksout?
You've gone back to work.

Jordan (01:31):
Yeah, I have gone back to work.

Lindsay (01:32):
And what are you doing for self care right now?
I'm curious what you're doinglike this.
Cause, cause we talked about itin like six weeks.
There's really not much you canreally do, but like hit survival
mode, just get through it.
Yeah.

Jordan (01:46):
It has been a lot of survival mode.
I think so.
Oh God, that's a tough questionto answer.
I'm showering every day.
You are, you've left the houseto run errands like by yourself.
Yes, I have.
And that has felt like selfcare, you know, honestly work
going back to work.
I was nervous and anxious causeI had a really rough pregnancy
at my work.
Um, but if that felt like alittle bit self care y, cause I

(02:09):
got to go and experience like,you know, life outside of my
couch.
Yeah, it's just something yougotta just do.
Yeah, so it's still pretty

Lindsay (02:17):
simple.
Yeah, yeah.
But

Jordan (02:20):
we are getting somewhere, like I feel, I've
done yoga a couple of times.
It's been like a slow, very slowprogress back to kind of feeling
like I can actually do a fullpractice.
I'm still not like totallythere.
But I have done a little bit ofyoga.
I got um, Um, a like postpartumcore and pelvic floor recovery,

(02:44):
online program thing for myselfas like a little gift.
So I've been working throughthat a little bit, which is
awesome.
I feel it's so weird.
I felt really connected to mycore and pelvic floor when I was
pregnant and I was doing a lotof like a big diaphragmatic
breathing in conjunction withlike pelvic floor and like TVA.
Yeah.
Um, activation work.

(03:04):
Yeah.
And I felt like I was super wellconnected.
And then the first time I triedto do it postpartum, it was
like, I couldn't even, no way.
Like I couldn't make contactwith those muscles at.
Like I couldn't Wow like I

Lindsay (03:19):
couldn't feel them.
It was so bizarre I couldn't youcouldn't feel like below like
further down past your abdomen.
Yeah, I mean obviously I canlike Yeah, that's so interesting
cuz you didn't have a vaginalbirth I know isn't that crazy so
everything's like kind offurther down past Or like in
that C section scar area.
So like the

Jordan (03:38):
TVA area, that, like the transversus abdominis is like
your deep low core, if you don'tknow.
But yeah, like I mean even belowthat, yeah, it was weird because
everything, I mean everythingshifts when your baby's there.
It's in a different position.
So if I was training my body inthat like dropped kind of
position, And then now that mybaby's not there, all of the
organs are just kind of, I don'tknow what, I don't know what it

(04:00):
is, but yeah, it was a muchharder to like get those muscles
to do what they were doingbefore.
I'm kind of working my way intoit.
So that's kind of part of myself care.
I stop and do that in the mirrorlike every time I'm in a mirror.
Wow.
Oh, that's smart.

Lindsay (04:13):
Yeah.
Cause if you're walking by,yeah.
And it helps.
You're just doing it a fewtimes.
Then yeah, you're doing it ahandful of times a day to
multiple times.
Yeah, totally.
It helps to

Jordan (04:22):
look in the mirror.
Like when you're pregnant andyou have this big belly, it can,
it's easy to see that it'smoving the way it's supposed to
when you're doing those kind ofabdominal contractions when
you're not pregnant anymore andlike can't connect with those
muscles.
It sometimes really helps tolook in the mirror.
So if you're struggling withthat, if you, yeah.
And then also I've, yeah, I'vebeen working through my, Yoga
stuff that we haven't eventalked about but I think Jordan

(04:45):
has a business dude.

Lindsay (04:46):
Yeah

Jordan (04:47):
I actually I opened I so I started my LLC like a week
before My kid was born and weliterally were at the bank
opening my bank account for theLLC the morning I gave birth
What?
I didn't know you were at thebank that day.

Lindsay (05:02):
You were like sewing his quilt that day.

Jordan (05:05):
I don't know what I was doing that day, Lindsay.
But yeah, we went to the bankthat morning.
And opened up my, like Ibasically started a business the
day I gave birth to him.
That is an amazing story.
It was stupid.
Um, yeah, I don't recommendanyone do Like a business
development plan in conjunctionwith the bank and you're like
exhaling through your contract.
No, I actually, I truly wasclearly.

(05:27):
I'm not even fucking good.
He was, did you,

Lindsay (05:29):
could you even talk?

Jordan (05:30):
Yeah, I could.
At that point I could talkthrough them, but I was like,
definitely having to like stopfor a bit to pay.
It was like in the morning.
I didn't go into the hospitaltill later in the evening, but
wow.
Yeah, they definitely, I wasjust at that point I was like,
this is pro drama labor.
I had had it.
But I've experienced with thatbefore, but yeah, geez.
Yeah.
It wasn't, it was full blownlabor.
But yeah, so I've got a yogabusiness.

(05:52):
It's a online based, uh, rightnow it's prenatal heavy yoga
content.
I filmed, uh, and edited andproduced an entire, an entire
prenatal yoga course while I waspregnant with my second kid.
So, um, yeah, it's really cool.
You grinded it.

Lindsay (06:10):
I grinded it.
You didn't, you didn't do it forboth pregnancies.
You did it for the second.
Just one of them.
Correct.
Yeah.
So the first one.
And then you had to be like ontop of your timing cause.
Naps.
Naps.
Is that what you mean?
Oh, because I have a harddeadline

Jordan (06:24):
of giving birth.

Lindsay (06:25):
Yeah.
That and like where you're at,whatever stage you were in for,
you had to be, cause okay, youdid all the poses, you did all
the sequences.
Right.
You had to.
Do all of those classes in thattime or in that stage of
pregnancy.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
To be safe, to be safe foryourself in third trimester.

(06:45):
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
And also to be safe for your ownbody too.
Yeah.
You grind it.
It was, it was a solid, crazyeffort.
I was doing lower yoga, um, inone day.
Then I shouldn't have been.
Anybody, anything, just notpregnant.
It was,

Jordan (06:58):
it

Lindsay (06:59):
was,

Jordan (06:59):
yeah, it was a good solid couple hours.
Yeah.
I only had, I only had my kids,my toddlers nap time.
to record and everything.
So yeah, it was logistically, itwas challenging, but we made it
through.
Yeah.
And I did it for my second kidbecause it was during my first
pregnancy that I realized thatthere isn't really a lot of
online prenatal yoga contentthat's specifically made for

(07:20):
people who have a Like analready solid yoga practice.
Like it all feels very thirdtrimester.
It all feels very beginner spec.
Yeah.
And I knew that my body couldhandle a bit more than like what
you can handle in your thirdtrimester or what a beginner can
like, you know, or somebodywho's new to yoga can handle.
And I wanted to continue thatpractice, but didn't really know
how to do it safely.
So I was like, shit, I like,this is something that's like

(07:42):
missing that I really wish Ihad.
So I decided to make it formyself the second time around
and for hopefully a whole bunchof other people who can benefit
from it.
So that will be coming outshortly.
We're just working on ourwebsite right now.
And you have your social.
Yeah, my social.
What's

Lindsay (07:56):
the name?
It's a

Jordan (07:57):
Samara yoga, my surname, Samara and yoga.
I'm at Samara underscore yoga onInstagram.
If you would like to hit me up,that'd be awesome.
I have a, Lots of tips on there,little mini practices, uh, yeah,
it's amazing.
Tips for all sorts of bodyailments or, you know, just well

(08:19):
being.
Um, lots of it's prenatalspecific, but a lot of it is.
Good for literally anyone andeveryone.
Right, right.
Yeah, pop on that.
That's the beautiful thing aboutyoga.

Lindsay (08:27):
Yeah, it's great.
You can kind of intertwine itall.
Totally.
So, is this going to build intosomething more like, challenging
courses and, Yeah.
Yeah, I have big

Jordan (08:36):
aspirations for the future and like a subscription
yoga studio that's notnecessarily prenatal specific
coming next.
But yeah, so prenatal content.
If you know anyone who'spregnant and wants to do some
yoga, Yeah.
Uh, that'll be there soon.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Anyway, so I've been busy doingthat.
That's part of my self care too,somehow.
I think.
I don't know.
I would say so, yes.

Lindsay (08:56):
Yeah.
Well, cool.
I was just interested.
Yeah, I re listened to thatbecause I was like, um, I'm kind
of feeling like I'm getting lostin the, uh, preparation of the
holidays coming up, thepreparation of baby coming, I'm
Birthdays.
Birthdays.
Yeah.
I just have like, too many openlists.
You know?
Yeah.
I get it.

(09:16):
So I'm like burnt out like alot.
Yes.
This whole last week, the onlytime that I really had to like
to have adult conversations withanybody was the phlebotomist
when I was doing my three hourglucose test.
Unfortunately I didn't have thatdone.
She was really busy that daytoo.
She told me I had a blood drawthat day too.
Yeah.
And then my, our couplestherapist and you, but you and I

(09:39):
were Marco Polo most for themost part.
Yeah, I saw you at the officefor a minute for a minute.
Yeah for a very tired Yeah,yeah, but that was like the only
like adult conversations Ireally had last week and I've
been like just busy doingeverything else for everyone
else and for my house and foryeah everything else so I'm

(10:00):
like, uh What,
what was my, what
was my, what did I say back then?
Shower.
Oh, okay.
And then I was like, getoutside.
But we're in Utah, you guysright now, the air quality, the
air quality, I think it's likehitting national news right now
at this point, so bad, I can'tgo outside.
It's rough.

(10:20):
And it's bummer because it'sactually really nice weather.
I know.
We have some friends in SaltLake City.
mutual friends, Jordan and I,and they were like, you can
taste the pollution.
Oh

Jordan (10:32):
God.
It is worse up there than it isdown here.
It's gnarly.

Lindsay (10:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyways, I was like, okay,well I just dabbled into that
self care and I was like, I'mgonna ask Jordan what she's
doing right now, now that she's,you know, But

Jordan (10:45):
yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else that I
could tell you that I'm doingfor myself, but it's, yeah,
that's pretty much it.
I guess like

Lindsay (10:53):
you're eating

Jordan (10:54):
well and drinking well.
Yes.
All those things.
All those little things that Isaid are self care that you need
to pay attention to likebrushing your teeth.
Yeah.
That's what I'm counting rightnow.
Yep.

Lindsay (11:03):
Good.
Awesome.
Well, yeah, go for it.
We have a fun or yeah, we have afun, uh, episode.

Jordan (11:12):
Yeah, neither of us have it in us to like, you know, get
into any kind of like researchyanything.
No.
Because it's

Lindsay (11:19):
pre holidays.
Yeah, we're flooded with likeall the fun traditions that are
getting, that we're just livingout right now.
We're living them out.
We're learning about new ones.
Yeah, we want to talk aboutChristmas, Christmas traditions
and Christmas stuff.
Yeah, it's so fun.
This season.
Yeah.
It's really fun.
Our daughters are two, well mydaughter will be two next week.
Your daughter is two.

(11:40):
Yep.
And it is, it seems way more funthan it did last year.
Last year was fun.
Don't get me wrong.
But this year is just likeexplosion.

Jordan (11:48):
I could not agree more.
I am so excited.
I am so

Lindsay (11:52):
excited.
Yeah.

Jordan (11:53):
We'll just, to give everyone like a little.
Idea of what they're about to belistening to, I guess, could be
nice to have.
We're not going to structurethis episode too much, but
here's a little structure foryou.
We'll talk about our Christmastraditions.
Yeah.
And me and Lindsay looked into alot of Christmas traditions that
we think could be really funeither for us or if they don't
work for us, for other people.
Yeah.
It's just really fun once youhave kids to kind of like

(12:16):
imagine what Your family'sChristmas traditions are going
to look like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you can take some from thefamilies that you grew up in,
but you can also totally make ityour own.
Yeah.
And that's so cool and

Lindsay (12:26):
fun.
I think that's what's really funright now too, is like we have
these, you and I are in like ayoung family of our own and now
it's like
we can create something of ourOh,

Jordan (12:36):
totally.
And it'ss so exciting.
So.
Sweet.
So yeah, what we're planning onthis year is Adrian's parents
are coming into town from theUK.
So they'll fly in actually theday before Christmas Eve, which
is kind of wild.
And then Christmas Eve, we havemy entire big, loud, crazy
family.
coming over to our house for aChristmas Eve party.
Yeah, we do this every year.
Uh, and Adrian's family is likevery small and quiet, so it's

(13:00):
going to be a fun littlejuxtaposition of, um, families.
Have they, did they do this lastyear?
Uh, no, this is the first timewe will have ever spent
Christmas with Adrian's parents.
Okay.
Yep.
Got it.
Yep.
So, and I've only spent, youknow, a handful of Christmases
with my husband, despite beingwith him for like nine Yeah.
So yeah, they're going to comehere.
We have a big Christmas Eveparty here where everyone

(13:22):
brings.
Something for dinner.
It's I guess they call thatpotluck now, but in the history
growing up We would my familywould go to the store when we
were like kids and my mom wouldlet us pick out One thing that
we wanted to contribute todinner so it ended up being like
a really weird like mishmash ofrandom shit and like candy and
Yeah, weird stuff, but it wasalways fun to see who brought

(13:45):
what, but now that we're alladults and we want to actually
eat real food, it's a good timeto like bring something really
cool and fun that we wouldn'tnormally make.
And then, yeah, we just kind ofhang out.
My mom does used to do pajamasfor us Christmas Eve.
She now does that kind of forthe grandkids Christmas Eve.
Um, very cool.
And we do a little inter family,Intra family tradition.

(14:07):
Mm-hmm Where we do handmadegifts for each other.
Yes.
So everyone in my like extendedfam, not extended my.
My nuclear family, but mychildhood nuclear family, uh,
draws names and does like a 20or less handmade gift for
another person.
And that's super fun.
We don't have tons of money inmy family going around.
So it's a really fun way to haveas much fun as we would have

(14:27):
buying gifts for each other.
Some of the gifts that I'veseen.
That you guys have made

Lindsay (14:31):
are so unique.
They're so cool.

Jordan (14:34):
They're so much fun.
Yeah.
And some of them were justhilarious.
Like, yeah, we have a lot of funwith it.
It's a good time.
So, so that's what we're doing.
Uh, Christmas Eve night.
And then we'll wake up Christmasmorning and do we're actually,
because his parents are going tobe here.
We're going to do full Britishtradition Christmas day.

Lindsay (14:51):
What is

Jordan (14:52):
that?
Except I think we're probablygonna miss out on the King's
speech.
I'm not sure what time thathappens.
I think it's in the morning.
So that'll be too late for us.
I don't know the British, uh,Christmas tradition.
It's not too dissimilar to ours.
So basically, well, and I don't,I can't speak for everyone in
Britain.
But what Adrian used to do as akid was he would wake up, they
would do stockings first thing.
So that's kind of what we did inour family too.

(15:14):
And then they would, and have abreakfast.
And typically he said that hisdad would have like a cake of
some kind.
His mom would have a grapefruitand I don't know, they'd have
like whatever they'd have.
And then they'd have to wait fortheir aunt to come over to do
the King's speech.
I guess it was the Queens, theQueen's speech at that time, the
Queen's speech.
And then after the Queen'sspeech, they got to open their
presents.

(15:34):
So Adrian, Hated the queen'sspeech.
Yeah.
I think that happens when we'resleeping luckily.
So we won't have to do that.
Um, Oh yeah.
Cause they're on a shade to theking.
Yeah.
So we'll wake up, do stockings,do breakfast, probably do gifts

(15:56):
right after that.
And then, um, UK is basicallyour Thanksgiving.

Lindsay (16:01):
Oh, nice.

Jordan (16:02):
Like that's savory.
Yep.
Good.
It's like Turkey.
Cool.
It's literally our Thanksgiving.
Turkey, mashed potatoes, allthat stuff.
We're gonna do chicken insteadbecause I'm not a big turkey
fan, but Yeah, we'll make a bigChristmas dinner.
Probably do some Christmaspudding, which is like a like a
rice pudding.
Nope It's nope.
It's UK called, people in the UKcall pudding, called dessert

(16:23):
pudding.

Lindsay (16:23):
Okay, I know this because I got my daughter a book
called The World of Cookies forSanta Claus.
Oh cute.
And the pudding is in there forthe UK.
Oh, Christmas pudding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
And then I haven't looked at allthe recipes for each like little
country that they mentioned isin the back of the book and I
haven't gone through that.
That's so true.
I love that they include recipeslike that.

(16:44):
It's not quite toddler friendly,but you just look at the
cookies.
Yeah, fine.
But that's a cool book that will

Jordan (16:49):
grow with your family as you go.
Yeah.
That's super cool.
Yeah.
That, like, touches on anothertradition I'll mention later,
but that's, that's rad.
Yeah, Christmas pudding is likea, I think it's like brandy
soaked kind of date, like driedfruit cake, uh, that you flambe,
like you, I think that's whatit's called.
You light it on fire.
My brain's not working.
And then you serve it with,like, brandy cream.

(17:09):
It's actually really tasty.
Oh, delish.
Yeah.
It takes a long time to make andyou have to make it in advance,
so if we get around to it, we'llhave to.
Yeah.
Very fun.
And that's pretty much it.
It's pretty

Lindsay (17:18):
low key.
That's really cool.
Yeah, we, we do, um, similar toyou, like we open gifts the
24th.
Oh, do you, do you do all

Jordan (17:27):
of your Christmas gifts the 24th?
No, not all of them, but like,Family gifts?
Family gifts, yeah,

Lindsay (17:31):
essentially.
And then Santa gifts andstockings, uh, Christmas
morning.
Okay.
Yep, Christmas Day is very likejust a relaxing chill day after
the morning.

Jordan (17:42):
Yeah, that's how it should be I think.
It's

Lindsay (17:44):
just kind of kids are occupied.
Yeah, parents are tired.
Sometimes we go outside for awalk or a hike.
but yeah, I have, we have familycoming in.
Andrew's family is coming in.
So they arrive kind of the weekbefore Christmas, kind of
sporadically.
And then we have just events andfun things to go do.
And then, um, yeah, Christmas,uh, Christmas Eve, we've What

(18:07):
we've done with Andrew's familyis we've always done like a
charcuterie night.
Oh, fun.
Which is really fun.
Cause it's like a easy dinner.
If you will, you can continue tosnack if you want to take a
break from opening gifts or juststep away or go get your, you
know, fill up your plate againand come back.
Yeah.
and then we enjoy the evening.
Opening gifts from each other.
And then Christmas morning, it'sSanta Claus is here, and this

(18:31):
year he's, he's here for real,for my daughter this time.
Yeah.
She's gonna be so excited.
So we'll have that kind of funand set up for her.
Uh, Christmas morning.
I'm sure we'll have a bigbreakfast and then just relax
all day long.

Jordan (18:46):
Yeah.
Cool.
So, pretty simple.
Have you guys been talking toher about Santa?
Does she, like, kind of have anidea of what that is going to
look like?
Yes.

Lindsay (18:55):
That's fine.
We haven't, we, she's notunderstanding the concept quite
yet of like him getting cookies.
Okay.
Um, but she likes, she says likeChristmas cookies and she's,
yeah, Christmas tree, Christmastree lights and Christmas lights
and Christmas this and Christmasthat.
Christmas boobies.
Yes, she was.
Or was it Christmas treeboobies?
She was saying, she keeps sayingmommy cover her boobies cause

(19:18):
I'm, have you ever heard of theterm naked mom?
No.

Jordan (19:20):
No.
No.
But I think I can

Lindsay (19:23):
imagine what it means.
If you grow up with a naked mom.

Jordan (19:26):
Yeah.

Lindsay (19:28):
Oh my god, I just googled it and like, You googled
naked obviously.
I just googled naked obviously.
Oh my god.
I'm looking for, no, I don'twant to Google this.
I want to.

(19:49):
Oh my gosh.
There's still like, okay, but isthis not on what's the, what's
the website where I don't, Idon't know.
Not Reddit, uh, urbandictionary.
Urban Dictionary should knowwhat this is.
Oh my gosh.

Jordan (20:04):
I mean, I think, it's all in the name.

Lindsay (20:06):
Oh, no, my, my Google search is not turning out so
great.
This is not what I want.
Oh, dear God.
It just
means you grew up around your mom.
Being naked.
Being naked.
Going into the shower, gettingchanged in the bedroom, you

(20:29):
know.
As it should be in my personalopinion.
Yeah, it just helps with like,body image.
For sure.
And they're learning too.
Body normalcy.
Yeah, yeah.
Comfortable in our house like itis what it is.
Yeah.
Of course.
That's like the, essentially thedefinition.
I was looking for actualdefinition, but you do not want

(20:49):
to Google.
Don't, don't Google that.

Jordan (20:51):
Or do, you know, if you need a little more fun this
holiday season than you'recurrently having, why not?

Lindsay (20:57):
So she just always says, Mama, cover her boobies.
Cause when I put my bra on, Isay, Mama, you cover her
boobies.
And now it's a whole thing.
It's at the dinner tablesometimes.
The other day, yeah, she wasaround Marco Polo, and she was
Christmas tree boobies, and likeShe was shouting it over and
over, it was great.
Oh goodness, um, I don't knowwhy, what got us there, but oh

(21:21):
yeah, she just says Christmaseverything, and so there you go.
Christmas tree boobies.

Jordan (21:26):
Yeah, my kid is, my kid's fully getting the Santa
thing.
She keeps waking up, and everymorning she says, It's Christmas
today! Oh, that's so sweet.
Let's check your stocking, is itfull?
It's full.
Oh, it's not.
Oh, it's not Christmas todaybecause Santa wasn't here.
That's adorable.
Yeah, it's really cute.
Aw, did you

Lindsay (21:44):
guys have, did you get

Jordan (21:45):
her a stocking last year or

Lindsay (21:47):
this year?

Jordan (21:47):
We've gotten her stocking every year.
This is the first year it'sgonna be like, you know,
interesting for her, for her toThat's cool.
The first year is obviously likewhat I'm doing for my son, Andy.
Yeah.
uh, chewy, like chew toy.
Yeah.
Is that what they call it fordogs?
Teething to chew toy?
Yeah, the teething toy,whatever.

(22:07):
Yes.
Yeah.

Lindsay (22:09):
Okay.
So then, um, that's basicallylike my holiday, the couple days
worth spending around.
Christmas time.
And then moving on totraditions, you mentioned your
mom does like Christmas,Christmas pajamas for the
grandkids.
We do Christmas pajamas kind oflike right after Thanksgiving so
that like they can enjoy wearingthem through the season, through

(22:30):
the season.
So my daughter, yeah, she haslike two that two or three that
we rotate through.
Her size for every Christmas.
Yeah, that's great.
So

Jordan (22:41):
I love that idea.
I don't, I make so much moresense than doing it because then
you have it for the season.
Do you know what I thought oftoday that I thought would be
really cool?
This is kind of a few traditionslike mingled together, but I was
super into it.
So the day you get yourChristmas tree, this is what I'm
totally, what I'm going to do inthe future.
The day you get your Christmastree, you decorate it, you know,
you have the holiday music, it'sall fun and whatever.

(23:03):
That would be a really cool dayto wrap.
The pajamas and put them underthe tree as like their first
little gift that they canunwrap.
And what I was thinking is wecould make a whole night of it
in my family like Do the tree,do some like songs, make some
hot chocolate or have some otherlike Christmassy treat and then
wrap the gifts, have them unopentheir, open their PJs.
We watch a little show togetheror a Christmas movie and then

(23:24):
they take a little slumber partyon our nugget pads under the
tree for that first night.
Oh, that's amazing.
It'd be the best night ever as alittle kid.
Yes it would.
Such a good opening to theholiday season.
Yeah.
Isn't that cool?
I want to

Lindsay (23:36):
write that like freaking down.
Rather than just say, here yougo.
Here's your pajamas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just like tucked away, nicelywashed.
Yeah.
And ready to get the

Jordan (23:42):
whole night of it.
And

Lindsay (23:43):
it's like

Jordan (23:44):
that, you know.
I love

Lindsay (23:45):
that.
I think that would be so cool.
We do live trees in our houseand we get them right before
Thanksgiving.
We usually go like the daybefore or the week, depending on
like the schedule of the placethat we go.
Sure.
And we set it, we cut it.
Yeah.
Cut the stump set it up in thewater and just like kind of let
the branches come down for a dayor two and Oh, that's cool.

(24:06):
We've never done that.
I would totally wait until likeI'm ready to decorate it get the
Wrapped PJs under good idea,right?
Yes.
Yeah.
I was like,

Jordan (24:14):
we could combine all of these traditions into one
awesome extra day.
That's like Christmas B.

Lindsay (24:20):
Yeah.
It's already so fun for the, towatch them play with the
ornaments and like put up thelights and, yeah.
Oh, my kid was, was so

Jordan (24:26):
excited this year.

Lindsay (24:27):
It

Jordan (24:27):
was such

Lindsay (24:27):
a, that's joy, fun.
Super cool.
So that's

Jordan (24:30):
the first cool little Christmas tree slash PJ
tradition.
Cool.
That I would love toincorporate.
Do you guys do any Christmascrafts?
Um, no, but we, I, you know, I'ma, I'm an aspiring crafts
person.
Yeah.
I'm not a crafty lady.
Um, we do have like little handprint ornaments from my daughter
and we will do them for my son'sfirst Christmas.

(24:51):
Mm-hmm And I love the idea ofdoing a new one every year, but
I'm not sure if it's realisticfor
me.
Yeah.

Lindsay (24:57):
We just do like one.
last year, I bought our familymembers.
Well, grandmas.
a frame.
That has like the rubber band onthe inside.
Did I tell you about this?
And then Yeah, you did, and thenyou send like switch out the,
yeah,
you can switch out artwork and stuff.
So that's essentially like oneof my daughter's gift to them is
like one of her artworks cuteand then they just like put it

(25:19):
their frame they already have attheir house.
And then.
Yeah, and then we do it again,uh, for the following year, but
then I just like incorporatelike another Christmas craft to
have in the house.
So right now she's got like herlittle handprints in like three
different shades of green thatare like a wreath.
Oh, cute.
And so.
That's a good idea.
Yeah, we just do.
Maybe I'll just

Jordan (25:39):
piggyback on all of your crafts, so then you can do, you
can have the mental load ofcoming up.
Yeah,

Lindsay (25:45):
I'll just like text you a picture, like this is what we
did this year.
Cool.
Yeah.
That's my plan.
Yeah.
That's a good idea.
So that's kind of like anothertradition is we're doing a
Christmas craft with the otherartwork piece that she's doing
for family.
Cool.
To give.
Yeah.
Very cool.
I love that.
Yeah.
Traditions we want to try.
You probably have way more thanme.
I have a bunch, but I don't wantto try all of

(26:07):
them.
I'm just presenting some ofthem.
What are, what's the, what's thetop one?

Jordan (26:11):
Uh, so my favorite one actually is something that I
found on Instagram, I followthis girl named, uh, raising
humans kind.
I like her.
She's amazing.
She's, Australian, I believe,uh, child psychologist.
She has this whole thing around,like not wanting Christmas to be
too much about consumption, butalso, she, she says these really
cool things.

(26:32):
Like it's really important tohave, to, You know moments of
abundance and abundance isreally important and it's really
beautiful and it's mostlybeautiful if it's also paired
with Times of want right?
Yeah, but we obviously we're notgonna like start with kids or
whatever that's not what she'stalking about, but she's saying
like They spend the wholechristmas season doing things

(26:54):
that are like Moving outward orlike being giving or kind and
then there's the one or two daysof of You Receiving, I guess,
right?
Yes.
So their tradition is, it's kindof like an Elf on the Shelf ish
tradition, where they have anangel called the Kindness Angel.
And instead of, obviously, like,she'll be in a different spot
every day, but she has theselittle notes that she writes.

(27:16):
It's obviously it's the parentswriting this.
Sorry if that's a spoiler forlittle young ears.
But yeah, basically there's likea little, a little note, which
every day is a new kindnesschallenge.
So it'll be something like helpdad with a chore or help mom
with a chore or write a nicenote for your neighbor or your
friend or tell your, it'ssomething really simple, like

(27:37):
tell your sibling something nicetoday or, you know, make a
little craft for yourgrandparents.
I love that.
Or something I thought of, andit can be anything, like if
you're gonna go out to a shopand buy a Christmas gift that
day anyway, you make it, like,shop local, you know, support a
local small business, like thatcould be a little kindness
thing.
Another cool one is Becausebeing in the, like being present

(27:59):
and enjoying people's company isan act of kindness.
Some of them are just like,we're doing a family game
tonight, like together.
I love, I love, love, love.
So that's a really cool idea.
That's

Lindsay (28:11):
so cool.
So just to piggyback off that, Isaw something similar.
But it was, you know, like oneof those paper garlands that
people make.
Like a paper chain?
Paper chain garland.
Yeah.
And then you write the kindnessthing on the inside of the, of
the chain.
And then you just pick from thechain and it has that kindness,
like, gesture on that

Jordan (28:31):
too.
You could even mix that with Elfon the Shelf.
Like the elf could, there's noone, I mean there is, there's a
big, like, conglomerate sayingthat the elf needs to be the
thing that's like, watching yourkid to make sure they're doing
it okay.
But that could even be mixedwith Elf on the Shelf.
Yeah.
Yeah.
should we talk about Elf on theShelf now since I just brought
that up?
Sure.
So are you officially doing itthis year or not?

(28:52):
This is a hot topic.
We are not doing Elf on theShelf this year.
Same.
I've got enough on my plateright now.
Having said that though, I, thisis the most divisive Christmas
tradition out there.
I think that I've seen newpeople get so hot about this
Elf.
Yes.
And maybe we don't quiteunderstand that because we
haven't fully engaged with it asa tradition yet.
Right.

Lindsay (29:12):
I haven't even like looked at the box yet.
They come in because there's aboy and a girl run, right?
Right.
I haven't even looked at thebox.
I Technically like is he trulyhe or she are they really truly
supposed to show up like thebeginning of them?
Yeah, I

Jordan (29:25):
think that that's what it says like on december I don't
know.
I haven't looked either but Ithink the idea is on december
1st The elf, you know makes hisway from the north pole to your
house And he's watching to makesure your kid's behaving.
We are not gonna play it withthat Like narrative, I think
that's, I don't know, I, thisdoesn't, I don't find it too
unattractive, but it's just notreally like my, my jam.

(29:46):
But I do love the idea of like,I don't know, my sister's, has
nailed her elf on the shelfgame.
Like she is so creative and socrafty and has done the coolest
things for her kids and theylove it so much.
I've just watched this and shetakes pictures.
So I've got this whole host oflike, ideas and I think that's
part of the trouble that Parentshave is like coming up with an

(30:06):
idea.
Yeah.
And then executing it at the endof the night after kids go to
bed.

Lindsay (30:09):
Yeah.
Is a bitch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if you're doing it all monthor For the most part, yeah, most
of the month.

Jordan (30:14):
Yeah.
And that's another

Lindsay (30:15):
thing, you don't have to start it on December 1st.
Yeah.
You were telling me, you'relike, I came across something
that they just started likeseven days or like, like a week
before Christmas.
Like you, or you couldincorporate 12 days of
Christmas, you know, kind ofthing.
Totally.
Yeah.
With Elf, that's whatever youfeel like you're, or you need.
Yeah, I'm on board with, itmoves

Jordan (30:30):
a couple

Lindsay (30:30):
times a week.
No big deal.
Yeah.
I'm totally on board with like.
Seven days.
Set your bar low.
Yes.

Jordan (30:37):
That's all we're saying.
Yeah.
Set it low.
Yeah.
Well,

Lindsay (30:41):
so

Jordan (30:41):
he'll, he or she will arrive probably next year.
Yeah.
I think we'll start it next yeartoo.
Part of my, um, motivation forwaiting was because I wanted to
have like a funnier name.
I don't think that my kid couldgive it a really funny name
right now, but like my, mynieces is named shiny bum.
And I don't know why, but that'ssomething I've loved ever.

(31:01):
Listening to her talk aboutshiny bum.

Lindsay (31:04):
So cute.
That's the best.
We do have a.
We have a really interestingname for our baby in my belly
right now from my daughter.
She, this is kind of a littleoff topic, but just a silly
name.
Yellow Paint, poke Her last nameis Poke.
Yellow Paint.
Yellow paint.
Yellow paint.
Love it.
Poke It's a great name.

(31:26):
And she strong name.
She, she could not like sayingit the other night when we're
like, what's the baby's DavidYellow paint Poke.
That's so funny.
Why so random?
Random.
Oh, I love that.
Yellow's her favorite color and.
I don't know.
That

Jordan (31:38):
doesn't surprise me.
She loves that color.
Such a bright little kiddo.
Yeah.
That's so cute.
Yeah.
So Elf on the Shelf, maybe nextyear or the year after we'll be
saying a very different thingabout Elf on the Shelf
tradition.
But for me, I think it's justsounds like one of those things
that's too fun.
Yeah.
To not try.
Yeah.
To not try.
Why not?

Lindsay (31:59):
One of the ones I want to try is kind of like, Also
bouncing off of your idea of thekindness is the reverse advent
calendar.
Oh yeah.
So we've, I've never done anadvent calendar in my life
growing up.
Never had that.
Neither have I.
So that's all very new to me.
But the reverse advent calendaris something very interesting
that I think I want to try whenour kids are older.

(32:20):
And this is, Essentially like adonation thing.
So this is like for your kids todecide what to donate.
Okay.
Anything of theirs that's like,um, not broken.
Not, you know, something thatthey Something that's donatable?
Yes, something very donatable.
Books, clothes, toys.
Toys, toys, toys, toys.
I'll probably do it.
I'll probably do everything.
Yeah.

(32:41):
Yeah.
So you just do like the, um, It's a pre Christmas
toy dump is what it is, isn'tit?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Essentially that.
But then it also kind of teachesthe kids about giving.
Yeah.
Which I love.
Which, yeah, is awesome too.
So I do want to try that whenour kids are older, like reverse
advent calendar.
Like I think it's just such abeautiful thing.

Jordan (33:00):
And we're not probably, ironically we have an advent
calendar upstairs, but my, mymom got it for my kid.
I didn't buy it.
That's not something that I'mattached to, but I did talk
about what we're doing for anadvent calendar last episode,
the book thing.
Yeah.
So cool.
I love that.
Which if you didn't listen, it'slike you wrap 12 or 24, whatever

(33:20):
you can commit to Christmasbooks.
Like a new book to read thatnight for bedtime or whatever.

Lindsay (33:24):
I love that idea.
Yeah, that one's really cool.
I'm excited to start that one.

Jordan (33:29):
Something we have actually done in years past, we
didn't do it last year I don'tthink, but is um, for Christmas
dinner every year to do adifferent dinner from around the
world.
Like a different traditionalChristmas type dinner or holiday
dinner.
we've done like, pozole I thinkwas like a Mexican tradition in
some parts of Mexico.

(33:50):
Yeah, we've done a few reallycool ones.
So this year it'll be British,but uh, the following year maybe
it'll be like, you know, ChineseChristmas or something.
Ooh, could be fun.
Yeah, I think that's a reallycool idea.
It's a good excuse

Lindsay (34:02):
to try new things.
This came to me As an act like aThanksgiving tradition, but I
think this could be cool if youif your family gets together on
Christmas Or if you get togetherwith extended family, or if you
just want to just celebrate thisidea on Christmas Instead of
Thanksgiving you can okay, soYou find yourself a white fabric

(34:26):
tablecloth fabric markers Andevery year, if you're having
like say a Christmas, this canbe whatever type of dinner,
breakfast, meal, any type oflike celebrated meal around the
holiday.
You, and you sit down togetheras a family.
Just write what you're thankfulfor, what you're grateful for,
what you loved about like maybethe Christmas, you know, season

(34:48):
that year.
What your favorite.
outfit was.
I mean you can like write downany kind of like each person
writes down their own likelittle fun thing and make sure
it's a marker that won't bleedin the wash because you're going
to watch this and you're goingto pull it out the next year and
write something new.
Write something new and you'regoing to essentially cover this
whole freaking tablecloth withamazing memories and loving

(35:09):
things and anyways this wasoriginally like I said this was
originally like what you weregrateful for and thankful for
for like a Thanksgiving but Ithink it can definitely bleed
into.
Christmas.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I've

Jordan (35:21):
got something to piggyback off that.
Cool.
Snowballing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, so this one was really cool.
This is something I just readabout online when I was kind of
just researching what cooltraditions could be to add to
our family.
someone said that their favoritetradition is, that their whole
family, like, and it sounds likethey had a quite big family, but
you don't have to have a quitebig family to make this work.
They stand in a circle beforetheir holiday dinner.

(35:43):
And you start by sayingsomething that you're really
proud of for yourself.
Like something that you've donereally well that you're proud of
or some, you know, new hobbythat you're excited about, or
just, you know, something thatyou've accomplished, whatever
you've, you know, you want toshare, which is awesome.
I love, I love the idea oftaking time to like, talk kindly
about yourself.

(36:04):
It's such an important thingthat we don't do in our, like,

Lindsay (36:07):
households enough.
We've done this one year for NewYear's Eve.
Cool.
Just recapped from the year andthen just only talked about like
ourselves.
I love that.
So

Jordan (36:16):
yeah So then the thing you do after that you say you
know that about yourself andthen you turn to the person next
to you In the circle and you saywhat you're grateful for about
them and like how they influenceyou.
That is beautiful.
Isn't that cool?
And then it just goes around ina circle.

Lindsay (36:28):
Yes.
Isn't that precious?
That's so precious.
Yeah, cuz you could do that atthe dinner table with the
tablecloth or you could do thatlike Hanging out in the, you
know Living room, just chillingand enjoying each other's
company.
Before or after gifts.
Oh, I love

Jordan (36:41):
that.
It's really cool.
I think it's like a nice way tolike, you know, get the vibe set
and bring everyone together.
Very cool.
Yeah.
So that's awesome.
This one's funny, there was oneperson who said that they have a
silly string fight everyChristmas after they open their
stocking at their grandma'shouse.
They'd have like a just a sillystring fight and there would

(37:02):
always be silly string in thestocking, which I thought was
really cute.
But something I actually reallylike about this tradition is
that especially for little kids,I think, so I brought my kid
home, like, a couple littlepresents from Target yesterday.
She really needed new shoes, soI got her a pair of new shoes
and I got her, like, a littleChristmas sweater.
And she came out and saw themwhen she woke up from her nap.

(37:23):
And she got so overwhelmed, andshe was excited, but she got
kind of overwhelmed and like,Had like an emotional reaction
that was like hard for her toprocess in the moment And I
think that's really common thingthat kids experience little kids
Especially on Christmas Day isthey just there's so much
emotion surrounding it that itcan be really overwhelming in
their bodies And I think that'ssomething that's really cool and
it doesn't have to be sillystring but me and my husband

(37:45):
were talking about this is andthe silly string does this and
Is have some kind of a gift thatyou give to the family that
inspires like a lot of movementlike Loud excited movement
because it helps to move thatemotion through their little
bodies.
Yeah, okay So it could be asilly string fight.
It could be like, you know, ifthey're old enough for little
nerf guns potato Yeah, somethinglike that could be cool or just

(38:08):
like something that involveslike cool like a Yeah, I don't
know.
I love that.
Something that involves a lot ofmovement and excitement, just so
that they have that big releasethat they kind of need on that
day.
Yeah.
I think that's really cool.
For sure.
And it could be something goodfor every year.
But, yeah.
And then it's also a game thatyou guys can all play together.
Or, you know, a little bit offun you can all have together.
Yeah.
Definitely.

(38:28):
I like that idea.
Another one is to bake cookiesor treats.
Obviously everyone's makingChristmas treats.
We make some for our neighborsevery year.
We have like a handful of housesaround here and me and my
sister, like, spend a whole daybaking and making like a little
assorted cookie or something.
I love that.
It was like Christmas music on.
Yeah, it's so fun.
We did that

Lindsay (38:46):
growing up.
The day was just kind of random,whichever day, but we lived out
in the country up in theNorthern woods and we didn't
have necessarily neighbors tolike pass it along to, but we
just like did it for ourselves.
Sure.
But having that like memory, itwas nice.
That's so cool.
Baking cookies and havingChristmas.
Yeah.

Jordan (39:03):
And I love, yeah, I love the whole process and then
ending it with giving it allaway is great for two reasons.
One, you don't, you're not leftwith all the treats in your
house.
But also it's just fun to, Idon't know.
I've, I haven't.
This is the first place I'velived in my adult life, the
first neighborhood I've lived inthat I've had neighbors that I,
like, want to buildrelationships with and have

(39:25):
really good rapport with.
So it feels really good to, tojust know that I'm in a solid
community, and I think even ifyou don't know your neighbors,
this is a really good inn to,like, say, Hey, we're over here,
we don't talk all year long,but, you know, if you needed
anything, we're someone youcould,
you could call on.
I really like that tradition.
do you do holiday cards?

Lindsay (39:44):
We do.

Jordan (39:45):
You do, huh?
Yep.
We don't.

Lindsay (39:47):
Yeah.
Oh, I was actually going tobring mine over today.
Oh, sure.
I forgot it.
Because I wasn't going to sendit in the mail.
I just looked, like, down thestreet.
To walk away.
Yeah.
Um, but yes, we do.
We sent those out in the mail,er, yesterday.
Fun.
Yeah.
I want to see your picture.
I can't wait.
Yeah.
It was from our Moab familyphoto session.
Oh, was it?
Okay, cool.
Cool.
Those were such great pictures.

(40:08):
Yeah.
Um, so we, we chose that photosession and then I just put an
ultrasound of the baby on thebackside.
Oh, cute.
I was just like, baby to come inFebruary.
So, um, they were fun.
I, we, we just head over toShutterfly and they have tons of
options and

Jordan (40:23):
cool.
Yeah, we should probably dosomething like that.
I.
Maybe I'll get around.
Yeah, sometimes

Lindsay (40:30):
I write a little note on the inside of them.
I did not have time this year.
Sorry guys, but I think I justread it.
But I, but I do write a littlenote here there in some of them
or all of them.

Jordan (40:43):
Yeah, that's cool.
I, I did.
I don't like necessarily careabout sending my holiday picture
to other people.
I'm sure they would love it.
Yeah.
But the one thing I do reallylike about the idea of doing a
holiday card is having thosepictures to look back on.
I always save, yep,

Lindsay (40:58):
I always save like two or three of them, and then, I
just, I have my own like littlelike storage box.
It's essentially bigger thanlike a shoe box and then Andrew
has his own and then ourdaughter has one now.
I love that.
And then whoever sends me likebirthday cards or, you know,
just Andrew's cards that arewritten out for me or.
Some artwork for Yeah, justsentimental things.

(41:18):
Yeah.
I just put it in my box and thenI do Clever.
I'm gonna do that.
So the Christmas card, I put onein each of our box and then
Cute.
Yeah.
'cause I just, I don't have timeto read.
Like scrapbooking or like No,no.
Has time for that.
All those cards together.
That's cute.
I should, I should

Jordan (41:33):
definitely do that.
That's a cute idea.
Yeah.
Oh, there's a really cool, thisone, I don't know why this one
gets me so excited.
Okay.
It's so basic and dumb, but Iactually think it's really cute.
And my husband really liked ittoo.
Okay.
So there was another one thatsaid that in, that in these
people's family, what they didwas have a unique, Wrapping
paper chosen for each kid in thefamily.

(41:54):
So, so everyone's, all of thatperson's gifts are wrapped in
the same wrapping.
I kind of like that.
Cause then you're not likewasting.
But the cool part, I don't knowwhy this is the cool part.
Cause I guess it just like ampsup the excitement for the kids
is that they don't know whichwrapping paper is theirs until
they're finished with theirstocking.
And then at the end of thestocking, there's like a little
scrap of the paper that matches.
That's amazing.

(42:15):
So at that point they can lookover at the tree and be like,
Oh, that one's in my head andthat one's mine.
That's

Lindsay (42:19):
cool.
I think that's fun.
Yes.
I love like all these littlethings that add like a little
more oomph and like a littlemore excitement to all this.
And that one requires no extra

Jordan (42:28):
work.
Yeah.
Like you, all you have to do istear a little piece of wrapping
paper and put it in your kid'sstocking.
Yeah.
Otherwise it's pretty much thesame.
Unless you have like 10 kids andyou need to get 10 different
pieces of wrapping paper.
Yeah.
But yeah, isn't that a coolidea?
Yeah.

Lindsay (42:40):
Yeah.
I want to do that.
Yeah.
I love that.

Jordan (42:44):
So there's one other silly thing we do in our house.
Uh, my husband was born inSpain.
So this is a traditional Catalantradition.
Hm.
Too many traditions in there.
This is a Catalan tradition.
And it's really weird.
It's called the Cagatillo.
Basically what this is, and hehad it in his family all growing
up and we have ours now.

(43:04):
It's a Google a photo causeit'll crack you up.
It's basically just like logwith like a red nose kind of
stuck to it with little likekind of ghetto arms and legs.
The tradition is, uh, it'stranslates to like shitting
uncle, right?
This is like your shittinguncle, this log.
Basically what happens is allseason.
You've got to keep it warm undera blanket.

(43:25):
The kids keep it warm.
And if they keep it warm enough.
Well, so we're, I don't reallyknow exactly what happens, but
basically on, on Christmas, yousing a song to it.
And you have the kids smack itwith a stick.
Is is this a specific Spanishsong?
Yeah, I don't know it though.
Okay.
So we don't sing that.
Okay.
But yeah, we smack it with astick and then you go outside
and you come back in and whenyou come back in he has pooped a

(43:48):
bunch of little chocolates.
like Hershey kisses or somethingsilly.
Uh, probably not Hershey'skisses'cause they don't have
those in Europe.
But Eddie Yummy.
You'd be like, uh,
Yeah.
But yeah, some kind of chocolate.
So that's what we do.
And I don't know what thetradition is with keeping him
warm all season, but yeah, I'm,I'm in the process of making him

(44:08):
a little quilt.

Lindsay (44:09):
It's so cute.
I, last year I learned aboutthis from you guys and your
family.
You were pulling this.
Oh, and I was like, all right,tell me, like, and you guys were
telling me a story to just getlike more and weirder as you
were going.
And I, I remember like the lookon my face was like, what?
So

Jordan (44:28):
it's like the dumbest,

Lindsay (44:29):
it gets more bizarre, more bizarre.
As the story goes on and likethe actual tradition of it all.

Jordan (44:33):
Yeah.
I was telling the lady at thefabric store what the quilt was
for and she was giving me thefunniest look.
Like, okay, that's cool.
That's really cool.
Yeah.
It's fun to have a traditionfrom.
You know, uh, like a heritagetradition.
Yeah.
That's very cool.

Lindsay (44:47):
It's an odd one, but I love that you're making a little
quilt for him.

Jordan (44:50):
Yeah.
We don't have, I was using astocking in years past cause we
had an extra stocking, but yeah,we don't have

Lindsay (44:57):
an extra this year.
So, so I'm going to make him alittle quilt.
That's so cute.
You can just like tuck him inhis quilt, put him away for the
next year.

Jordan (45:07):
the last thing I wanted to talk about is a Yule log.
Oh, yeah.
So this is for food?
So The food one?
No.
Okay.
An actual burning Yule log,which is a thing I didn't really
have any awareness of untiltoday when I was looking this
up.
So obviously there's like the,you know, the Bouchonneau, like
the French, like pinwheely Yulelog.

(45:29):
And it's cool to do that.
Like maybe we'll burn a Yule logand eat a Yule log and that's
like a cool little thing.
A thing we can do, but the YuleLog, so this is a tradition that
dates back to like 1650s.
I was gonna say, so long.
Super, super old.
And it was like, it's kind ofknown to be an English thing,
but there are also versions ofthis that happen all throughout
Europe, and they're different ineach country slightly.

(45:51):
Super cool.
I think that it's still apractice done in paganism and
the idea, I think the generalidea for like a Yule log is to
burn the log, uh, and itsymbolizes like the return of
the sun's strength after winter,which is really cool.
So it's kind of like lookingforward into the new season, the

(46:11):
sun coming back to its fullstrength, which is really what I
love about Christmas.
Yeah, I

Lindsay (46:15):
was going to say, that's like a special time of
year because we have wintersolstice is the 21st, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's kind of, yeah.
So it's kind of a similar,

Jordan (46:23):
yep.
Similar time.
So basically you take a log andyou burn it probably Christmas
Eve or Christmas day if you wantto.
Um, and it's, yeah, it couldeither symbolize that or I've
seen some things that say like,You make a wish on the log, like
you would like a birthdaycandle, or you can light candles
from it and make wishes onthose, or you can make offerings

(46:43):
to the Yule Log, like have,like, they said this was really
fun to do with toddlers, butlike, go and gather, like, holly
berries or pine cones or likeother little nature things and
give it to the log as like alittle, I don't know, kind of
like a gift.
That's fun.
Sacrifice.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's a little dark.
One of those ones.
But cool.
I like the idea of having a fireon Christmas and like having a

(47:03):
white little log and a littlehurrah around it.
Yeah.
That's kind of cool.
That's cute.
Yeah.

Lindsay (47:07):
That's darling.
Yeah.
And then you could bake yourYule log and Or is it even Yeah,
it's baked.
Part of it's baked and then it'slike chilled.
The cake part.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Jordan (47:14):
Yeah, yeah,

Lindsay (47:15):
yeah.
Cool.

Jordan (47:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Could be fun.
I don't know.
That's something we can messaround with in the future.

Lindsay (47:21):
Very

Jordan (47:21):
fun.
Yeah.
Cheers to

Lindsay (47:23):
Christmas

Jordan (47:23):
time.
Cheers to Christmas time.

Lindsay (47:26):
Yeah.

Jordan (47:27):
And on that note, I gotta go grocery shopping.
Yeah.
Get some stocking stuffers.
I dunno.
Yeah.
Well, hopefully everybody has areally fun holiday season
Lindsay and I are gonna take alittle break from podcasting.
Yeah for the holidays Yeah, it'sgonna be crazy

Lindsay (47:42):
time for everybody.
We have our tentative podcastRecording days ahead.
Yes.
I

Jordan (47:47):
think we're probably gonna record some in January
depending on how you're feeling.
Yeah We'll

Lindsay (47:52):
see how this all goes down.
Yeah pregnant lady over here.
Hopefully I can keep my stresslow enough to hold off having an
early birth

Jordan (48:05):
Just enough to make it a little I do I do feel like

Lindsay (48:07):
this one I just have this notion that this baby will
arrive early.

Jordan (48:12):
Yeah,

Lindsay (48:12):
I had that same feeling and mine did come.
Yeah We shall see.

Jordan (48:17):
Yeah.
So fingers crossed for you.
I know.
I just,

Lindsay (48:21):
I was going to say, I have my bed, my side of the bed
already ready to go.
I did want to do that beforeChristmas.
I know I didn't have to, but Ijust wanted it done and over
with so that I could just

Jordan (48:30):
move on.
I get it.
It's a little bit crazy, but Ialso get it.
All right, everybody.
Happy holidays.
Instagram.
Leave us a review.
Any of, Oh yeah.
If you're feeling extra festiveand kind and giving.
Yeah.
Leave us a nice review.
Yes.
That'd be great.
Please do.
We love

Lindsay (48:47):
it.
We love hearing reviews.
They're so fun.

Jordan (48:49):
They are.
Thank you all so much and wewill, uh, talk to you in the new
year.
Bye.
Bye.
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