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In our first bonus episode, Jordan shares intimate details from the birth story of her daughter. Stay tuned for Lindsay's (and the next round!). 

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Jordan (00:00):
I had, you know, like, followed some people on

(00:01):
Instagram who were birth doulasand talked to a couple birth
doulas in real life and createdthis beautiful plan for myself,
had all the things, you know,like I had the comb to squeeze
if my contractions got bad, Ihad a playlist

Lindsay (00:12):
that in the hospital?
No! Oh, gosh.

Jordan (00:14):
Of the things I'm about to say, I did about 2 percent of

Lindsay (00:18):
yeah.
Like, how much of the first

Jordan (00:19):
your birth plan did you follow, really?
Alright, um, hello.

Lindsay (00:30):
Hi! Welcome back!

Jordan (00:31):
back,

Lindsay (00:32):
had a snack, graham cracker, nectarine.

Jordan (00:35):
gonna pretend this is just like a, we didn't just
record an episode.

Lindsay (00:38):
didn't even just record it.

Jordan (00:39):
Oh, okay.
But everyone wants to hear aboutour snack.
I love it.
Pregnant

Lindsay (00:44):
snack.
Yeah, pregnant lady's

Jordan (00:46):
Yeah, pregnant ladies had her snack.
And I'm ready to record.

Lindsay (00:49):
are so good right now, it's like a tease that the peach
season, that's

Jordan (00:52):
I know, yeah, I can't wait.
Oof, my favorite season of theyear.

Lindsay (00:56):
I hope I can give you some of our new peaches.
Yeah,

Jordan (00:59):
Yeah, I can't believe your peach tree is already
producing

Lindsay (01:01):
are already

Jordan (01:02):
Yeah.
And speaking of producing fruit.
I love you.
I love you too.
I love

Lindsay (01:09):
Let's chat.
How did it go?

Jordan (01:12):
about a birth story?
Yes.

Lindsay (01:16):
might, this thing might not be fun for maybe like, new
moms that aren't, that arepregnant now and haven't had
their baby.
But this topic comes up with meand my neighbors, my random
people that I see at the park,pool, we just start blurting out
our birth story because I thinkwe just really need it to be

(01:38):
validated or heard or expressedand we somehow like get it.

Jordan (01:42):
And you want to hear other people's.
I'm always interested to hear

Lindsay (01:44):
yeah, everyone's is so different.
talked to like all my neighborsabout it Never would I have
thought I'd have theseconversations with people.
Yeah, they're just so cool.
Yeah.

Jordan (01:57):
such a wild

Lindsay (01:58):
Yeah, and then I think you also want to know, like,
what could also be expected ifyou didn't think of

Jordan (02:05):
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.
But yes, I, generally, you'redefinitely

Lindsay (02:11):
Yeah, so this is like a fun, Jordan's going to share her
birth story.
I'll do my birth story next.

Jordan (02:17):
Yeah, we'll talk,

Lindsay (02:18):
I don't know if I'll, yeah, I think our plan is for me
to do it right after thisepisode, but, yeah.

Jordan (02:24):
you know, we're moms and we're adaptable and shit changes

Lindsay (02:26):
yeah.

Jordan (02:27):
we move forward.

Lindsay (02:28):
have to move forward with like the next new thing to
talk

Jordan (02:31):
Yeah.
Slash uh, yeah, the adaptabilityis a good theme for this story.

Lindsay (02:37):
Yeah, this is a fun, this is a fun, light hearted
episode, so.

Jordan (02:40):
eh?
Hopefully.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it, I think it'llbe

Lindsay (02:43):
it'll be fun.
Mm hmm.
I kind of like,

Jordan (02:45):
there were, I, yeah, this, this labor and delivery
process for me to not go the wayI had hoped slash planned.
There was a lot of turmoil.
It was not short, but.
Despite the fact that I did havelike a little mourning process
afterwards, I feel,

Lindsay (03:01):
Yeah.
but

Jordan (03:03):
yeah, that it all got tied in a nice little bow and
I'm congruent with

Lindsay (03:07):
Yeah, you're in a better place.
Well,

Jordan (03:09):
Well, yeah, and I think I was in an okay place for the
most part along the way.
There were a couple bumps in theroad and we'll talk about them.
So, yeah, if

Lindsay (03:18):
is,

Jordan (03:19):
yeah, go ahead.

Lindsay (03:19):
No, I was going to say, this is for your daughter that's
23 months

Jordan (03:22):
23 months.
Yes, yep.
Okay.

Lindsay (03:24):
Yeah.
and then we'll have anotherbirth story someday soon.

Jordan (03:28):
Yeah, very soon.
Jeez, it's coming up quick.

Lindsay (03:31):
in preparation for

Jordan (03:33):
yeah, in preparation for getting ready for this second
birth, I think the first stepthat I wanted to take is just to
really dive back into my firstbirth and explore all the
feelings and the steps in theprocess, all of it.
Um, and just kind of bring itback to the surface and, and
yeah, reflect on what went well,what didn't go well.
I think I mentioned this in acouple episodes ago, but this is

(03:55):
it.
So this is, yeah, this is partof that process.
Thank you for allowing me toblurt it out at you all.
I hope it's interesting.
I hope it resonates.
Yeah.

Lindsay (04:06):
Yeah.
Have you journaled your birthstory?

Jordan (04:09):
I have, yeah.
It was, I, it took me a long, itactually took me a long time.
It took me like almost a year.
I don't know.
It took me a long time to getthrough.

Lindsay (04:20):
it done in, like, a setting.

Jordan (04:22):
No.
And you're, you know, you don'tlike the postpartum periods.
If anyone managed tosuccessfully do a full journal
of their birth story in thefirst couple months postpartum,
that's

Lindsay (04:31):
Yeah, very.

Jordan (04:33):
Yeah, no, for me it was, no, I was sleeping with a baby
on my chest

Lindsay (04:37):
with

Jordan (04:38):
during that time.
And yeah, processing things, ittakes a long time.
So yeah, I, I gave birth in lateAugust, 2022.
Thankfully post COVID for all ofyou who gave birth during COVID
times.
Woo hats off to you.
Cause God damn, would that bestressful?
So yes, I was grateful that thatwas, that was all over.

(05:00):
yeah, it was a nice long labor,but so it all started, I think I
had a kind of a normal Saturday,

Lindsay (05:07):
that day.
Probably

Jordan (05:08):
It was a weekend.
Yep, didn't do much that dayprobably was just you know in
that sort of pre birth hazeWhere you're like any moment now
any minute any hour any day mylife is gonna be

Lindsay (05:20):
going into labor soon, or am I

Jordan (05:22):
Yeah, it's like

Lindsay (05:23):
do I have a lot of energy because I'm going into
labor

Jordan (05:25):
a twilight zone the pre like the like the last couple
weeks especially before givingbirth I feel like is just Feels
like a weird kind of giddyemotional limbo.
Yeah, it's such a

Lindsay (05:37):
waiting

Jordan (05:39):
Yeah, I remember telling my husband at some point this
waiting process feels like we'reon a boat in like the calmest
waters.
And we can like, see a storm onthe horizon and we know it's
gonna be gnarly and crazy and wehave no idea like how long it's
gonna take to get to us

Lindsay (05:57):
Or if it's gonna go around you.

Jordan (05:59):
for it.
Yeah or if it's gonna comearound like it's just like a
sense of like damn we gottafucking batten the hatches and I
don't know what it means tobatten hatches

Lindsay (06:09):
So this is, um, you're describing this, you are
planning a natural birth.

Jordan (06:14):
natural Yeah yep that was the plan yeah

Lindsay (06:16):
not a planned c section, you're, you're, you're
in limbo

Jordan (06:20):
yeah, I, yep, yep, I don't, I'm not the kind of
person who likes the feeling ofbeing medicated, that's like, I
don't, I'm not againstmedications either, uh, just to
be clear.
Put that out there, but

Lindsay (06:30):
but,

Jordan (06:31):
I've always really hated like pangulars and things like
that like just don't sit wellwith me And then also we've
talked about this but there'sthis pressure to to do like a
natural and medicated home birthis like the be all and all of of
Birth and I'm done.
I'm not putting that down Ithink it probably is the be all
like I can't imagine feelingmore badass than being able to

(06:52):
birth my kid at home withoutmedication

Lindsay (06:54):
That's perfect.

Jordan (06:55):
Um, but for me and my husband, we're the kind of
people who like plans.
We're the kind of people wholike, uh, structure and
stability and,

Lindsay (07:03):
Answers, questions.

Jordan (07:05):
Absolutely.
And I've always felt prettycomfortable in a hospital
setting, personally.
So that wasn't something thatwas off putting to me.
I didn't think that was going toaffect, like, my oxytocin levels
and things like that, forexample.

Lindsay (07:15):
yeah.

Jordan (07:16):
So, all in all, we were pretty happy.
It was like a simple choice forus.
It was never gonna be a homebirth for this first one.
It was just gonna be a hospitalbirth.
So that was my plan, and I had,you know, like, followed some
people on Instagram who werebirth doulas and talked to a
couple birth doulas in real lifeand created this beautiful plan
for myself, had all the things,you know, like I had the comb to
squeeze if my contractions gotbad, I had a playlist

Lindsay (07:38):
that in the hospital?
No! Oh, gosh.

Jordan (07:40):
Of the things I'm about to say, I did about 2 percent of

Lindsay (07:44):
yeah.
Like, how much of the first

Jordan (07:45):
your birth plan did you follow, really?
Oh my god, like, none.

Lindsay (07:49):
was the bouncy ball in the room?

Jordan (07:51):
I had that.

Lindsay (07:52):
Was that like in the closet and they called it a
peanut?

Jordan (07:54):
No, it's different.
No, so I had only been usingthat bouncy exercise ball like
exclusively as a chair.

Lindsay (08:03):
that last month I

Jordan (08:04):
sit on the couch.
I didn't sit on a dining table

Lindsay (08:07):
girl you're about to do that again

Jordan (08:11):
I'm not ready.
actually did just blow up theexercise ball that you gave me
to replace mine.
Her dog, I think messed mine upwhen I let you borrow it or
something.
I don't know, but I have thenext one.
So I'll

Lindsay (08:22):
phone.
Oh, that's right, I just sent itto you.
I Amazoned it.

Jordan (08:26):
Anyway, that's beside the point.
I did have the birth ball, butthere were like a thousand
things on my birth plan.
You know, like.
The, the light.
How do you

Lindsay (08:33):
list is too long.

Jordan (08:34):
do you want, what do you want to be wearing?
So many count, like, do you wantany aromatherapies?
How do you want your husband tosupport you or your partner to

Lindsay (08:40):
you want music?
I was

Jordan (08:42):
it.
I had meditations downloaded.

Lindsay (08:45):
I was asked if there was any music in our room and I
don't remember if I said yes orIf I did, I was like Hawaiian
genre,

Jordan (08:54):
That's

Lindsay (08:56):
if they did it or not.

Jordan (08:58):
That's so funny, Hawaiian

Lindsay (09:00):
go ahead.
This is your story.
We have to, we'll talk aboutthis later.

Jordan (09:03):
funny, okay.
Yeah, anyway, so I had this bigbirth plan.
I had it all in my head.
I had watched, you know, like, acouple videos.
Seen a bunch of very beautifulpictures of labor and delivery.

Lindsay (09:14):
Yeah, you were envisioning hardcore.

Jordan (09:16):
Totally.
As I think any woman who's aboutto give birth just inevitably
does.
Like, you know, you're about todo this big, huge event that,
you've been like thinking aboutfor basically your whole life.
And it's before a lot of us beenlike a scary thought, but you're
trying to get over that fear.
Anyway, lots of mentalpreparation, lots of physical
preparation with you know,tissue stretching exercises and

(09:37):
all the things.
Yeah, so, I go in there, I'mready.
before I go in there, I guess wehaven't really told the story
yet.
Normal Saturday,

Lindsay (09:45):
yet.
Yeah.
Normal Saturday.
Weekend.

Jordan (09:47):
We go for our little evening stroll.
I definitely feel a lot ofpressure happening on my pelvic
floor.
Like, those last couple weeksare just like, you feel like a
watermelon's about to just like,drop out of your pelvis.

Lindsay (09:58):
out of your pelvis.
Like what sciatica nerve?

Jordan (10:00):
Yeah, so that's, you know, that was how it was.
Late August, beautiful, hotsummer night.
me and my husband go to bed andI had kind of been feeling
pretty regular contractions likefor a couple of days.
but they would like, you know,come and go.
They weren't super regular, butthis night they were happening a
little bit more regularly andthen come like 1230 I think, I

(10:21):
don't remember if I'd fallenasleep or if I just woke up, but
come about 1230 in the morning,my husband's fast asleep beside
me.
I just started noticing thatthey were like.
Becoming quite regular.
They weren't like super painfulyet, but they were like kind of
becoming more intense.
And they, and so I started,timing them

Lindsay (10:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.

Jordan (10:40):
Um, and they got to the point where they were like,
whatever it is, I think it's twominutes apart or like a minute
and a bit apart.
And I was on the littlecontraction timer and it was all
happening.
And I was like, this is crazy.
And I just laid in bed and like,let it happen.
And I remember lying there you'dthink given all of the like hype
we get about how gnarly andscary labor and delivery is that
you would feel maybe like asense of tension or anxiety in

(11:01):
your body.
But instead, I just rememberevery time I had one feeling
like this calm, like almostgiddiness wash over me.
It was, it was the coolest.

Lindsay (11:15):
that like you can, if you envision your baby hugging
you, or your uterus hugging you,is like another way to get in
that mindset.
Yeah, cool.
That's

Jordan (11:24):
use that very soon.
Um, yeah, so that's just how Ifelt naturally, which was, was
really

Lindsay (11:30):
So you stayed in bed throughout the contractions.
They were getting quicker andquicker.
Did you have the urge to get upand use the restroom?
Okay.

Jordan (11:38):
that was the next thing I did.
So I got up at like, after maybe30 or something minutes of them
being regular, I don't know.
I got up and went into thebathroom

Lindsay (11:45):
Middle of the night.

Jordan (11:46):
yeah, middle of the night, we're like pushing 1am
probably about now.
Our one of many.

Lindsay (11:53):
Yeah.

Jordan (11:55):
yeah, I went to the bathroom, noticed that my mucus
plug had, had gone.
there was like blood and, youknow, y'all, y'all out there
know what I'm talking about.
I don't need to go into

Lindsay (12:03):
to be going to

Jordan (12:05):
like, this is it.
Okay.
And I remember having, the samefeeling that I had when I, Took
my pregnancy test.
I took my pregnancy test onChristmas Day.
I was one week late on ChristmasDay.
and I remember waking up and Ihadn't told my husband that my
period was late just because Iwanted to be able to surprise
him if because I was like, oh,it's Christmas coming out.
This could be so cool.
So he got in the shower.

(12:26):
I snuck the pregnancy test outfrom beneath the like the
bathroom like sink or whateverand I like ran downstairs and I
felt my heart pounding and I waslike, oh my god, this is crazy.
And I never used that bathroomeither, so I was like, this is
gonna be so, like, it all feltvery novel.
And I, you know, I peed in acup, and I put the little stick

(12:46):
in it, and it immediately poppedup pregnant.
And I, I just had the samefeeling when I saw, like, the
mucus plug situation.
that I had had in the bathroomon Christmas.
Yeah, it's happening.
And like, I'm the only one onthis whole planet who like knows
who like has this

Lindsay (13:02):
this information this, is

Jordan (13:04):
this is like, just, this is just me.
And I'm like about to go sharethis.
So it's just like a reallyexciting feeling.

Lindsay (13:11):
I, into my

Jordan (13:12):
so I went back into my bedroom, not quickly.
Like I remember being reallyslow about it.
I laid down next to Adrian and Iwas kind of just woke him up.
And I was like, hey, uh, we needto go to the hospital.

Lindsay (13:22):
Yeah.

Jordan (13:23):
And he jolted upright.
Our energies were verymismatched in that moment.

Lindsay (13:30):
okay.
Oh

Jordan (13:32):
what, really?
And you know, he was ready.
Like, he's the kind of guy who'slike,

Lindsay (13:37):
He's the

Jordan (13:37):
He's the one you want in a str when shit hits the fan,
like, he's the one who's got hishead on straight and is like
giving orders and figuring shitout, which is great.
Um, yeah, it was great.
So he got out of bedimmediately.
We had kind of like a, you know,our hospital bag was prepped.
We had like a whole bunch offoods that were prepped to put
into a bag and take to thehospital mostly

Lindsay (13:56):
into a bag and take to the hospital mostly for him.
I think I just showed up.
I think that was

Jordan (14:02):
I think I just showed up.
I think that was the advice they

Lindsay (14:04):
I took

Jordan (14:04):
But I took my time.
Like, we didn't end up leavingthe house till like 2am,
probably.
Because I was like, thesecontractions are still regular.
And they're getting stronger.
I can feel them gettingstronger.
But I'm still not like, there'snothing that feels like crazy
urgent.

Lindsay (14:19):
push.
Definitely not

Jordan (14:19):
Definitely not the urge to push.
No water's breaking.
Nothing like that.
That's how they say it in theUK.
Is that how, did that soundfunny to you when I said no
water's breaking?
Uh uh.
Okay, good.

Lindsay (14:29):
good.
Yeah.
Anyways.
So you're, okay, now you're atthe point where you're driving
to the hospital.
You're, what are, what the hellare your thoughts and your
emotions like as you're drivingto the

Jordan (14:37):
driving to the hospital?
I was kind of starting to becomea little bit more like, of like
a nervous, like excited feeling.
Like there was definitely likean, oh my god,

Lindsay (14:44):
god.
Dude, isn't it something, like,when you're pulling up to the
hospital?
Pulling into the hospitalparking lot, you're

Jordan (14:50):
I'm like getting excited.
Like I got a big smile on myface right now because it's a
lot, like it's crazy andoverwhelming but it's also so
fucking exciting.
They don't tell you how excited,I mean maybe everyone's
experience is different but Ifelt so excited.
and yeah, it just felt like, Idon't know, like when you, when
I used to wake up really earlywith my dad to go fishing and
it's like dark outside still andyou're a kid.

(15:10):
And there's like somethingreally weird about being awake
already or something.
It was like a little bit of thatmixed with like, I'm about to
have a baby.

Lindsay (15:18):
Yeah.
There's definitely differentenergy when you're driving in
the middle of the night to a litup hospital, lights and

Jordan (15:24):
Totally.
Yeah.
And I remember feeling reallycalm along the way.
I was looking at the stars.
I was like,

Lindsay (15:30):
You'll never forget that night in your

Jordan (15:32):
No, it's so cool.
Um, it wasn't the night I had mybaby.

Lindsay (15:36):
I know, was it the day?
The 20,

Jordan (15:39):
this is like two days

Lindsay (15:40):
I didn't, I didn't know that.

Jordan (15:43):
that.
I have a long old labor story.

Lindsay (15:46):
I thought it was like,

Jordan (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just, okay, everyone keeplistening.
You'll find out how long it was.

Lindsay (15:51):
yeah.

Jordan (15:52):
It's not fun.
Um, but it's exciting.
So we get in there, we checkinto the hospital.
We tell them I'm, you know, thenight check in person.
Like, we're going up to laborand delivery.
We head up there.
I could tell that the girl atthe desk knew before me that I
wasn't having a kid anytimesoon.

Lindsay (16:08):
my gosh, funny.

Jordan (16:11):
that, I got that, so she like looked at me and I could
tell what she was thinking

Lindsay (16:14):
She's like, here's your paperwork, please go sit down
take your time

Jordan (16:19):
Yes.
It was totally that vibe.
So, you know, we do the thing.
We check in.
I get weighed.

Lindsay (16:25):
You're you're too excited.

Jordan (16:27):
Yeah, I mean, but also I was having consistent

Lindsay (16:30):
and it was your first year

Jordan (16:32):
Yep, totally.
So we go in the room and, andlike, you know, the, the norm at
hospitals now is to help youalong with like Pitocin and help
you along with breaking yourmembranes and all those things.
So, you know, I'm sure thishappens all the time and the
girl stays in the hospital.
Spoiler alert, I didn't stay inthe hospital.
Um, we did stay overnight.
11am.

(16:53):
They put an IV in my arm, but Ididn't want to be medicated.
So I told them it would be okayto put the needle in my arm,
because I was open to thepossibility that the plan may
change.
No, they didn't even hook me upto, like,

Lindsay (17:04):
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.

Jordan (17:07):
So they got the IV ready to go.
I asked them to not give me any,like, any hydration, any
medication, or anything.
And I spent the next You know,whatever the difference between
two and 11 is the next ninehours.
Just laying in the hospital bed.

Lindsay (17:21):
Were you in pain, and was it uncomfortable, or were
you just

Jordan (17:23):
I was definitely becoming uncomfortable.
Yeah.
So for the first couple hours,it was relatively chill, but I
think I had enough like energyand like adrenaline in my body
that I was, you know, goingthrough it.
And I've talked to all thenurses and they're asking about
the names.
And I remember looking over atthe little table they have set
up for the newborn with like thehat and the diaper.

Lindsay (17:41):
cute.
It's so little.
It's so little.
I can't wait to see that

Jordan (17:45):
I remember looking at that and thinking, this is the
room my, my kid's going to beborn in and like, they're going
to take her over there and putthis little hat on her head and
like, hand her back to me.
And I like, yeah, it justbrought tears to my eyes.
And that was like, really one ofmy first moments of like, Oh my
God, this is it.
And then, you know, my husbandgot some sleep.
I got a little bit of rest, butI didn't, I don't think I slept.

(18:08):
But I did get up and like dancein the room because they tell
you to Did a little bit ofhumming and like, you know a
little bit of whatever So thatwas like a place where maybe I
was following my birth plan abit, but not really

Lindsay (18:19):
but

Jordan (18:20):
And then yeah come 11 o'clock.
I didn't see a doctor at all thewhole time I was there and at 11
in the morning, they werefinally like, you know A doctor
finally came in and she waslike, if you haven't progressed
any more than this now, werecommend Pitocin, and we
recommend, like, you know,something else to

Lindsay (18:35):
Like, essentially like a duction type

Jordan (18:37):
Pretty much, yeah.
Yeah, pretty much.
Which, like, I, to be fair,would have been probably okay
with, given that I could tellthat my body was going into
labor.

Lindsay (18:45):
Like,

Jordan (18:46):
Like that, I mean, you know, whatever.
But I still just didn't reallywant to do it if I didn't have
to.

Lindsay (18:52):
you don't

Jordan (18:52):
So she said, if you don't want to do this, then the
only alternative is for you togo home and labor at home for a
little while and then come backwhen everything's feeling a
little more intense.
And I was like, okay, yep.
That sounds like

Lindsay (19:02):
of the reason I was going home was because I was
sick.

Jordan (19:06):
I was, and most of the reason was cause I was hungry.
You

Lindsay (19:13):
and Watermelon.
Watermelon.
And you, yeah.
You came home and you showered,

Jordan (19:17):
Yes.
And then my hair was likedisgustingly greasy.
So I was super stoked to get inthe shower and wash my hair.
And the shower helped with thecontractions.
Cause by the time I got home, itwas definitely painful.
Like it was not pleasant.
Like every two minutes, I

Lindsay (19:31):
Yeah, I remember

Jordan (19:32):
Oh,

Lindsay (19:32):
off and I was like, Oh, you are so, you're in pain.

Jordan (19:36):
Oh, it was awful.
Yeah.
I like, yeah, it was

Lindsay (19:40):
Okay, so then at one point you, you go home, you're
hungry, you're showered, you'refed.
Did you really feel much betterafter you

Jordan (19:47):
No, oh, but I'm grateful that I ate.
I don't think I felt like, Idon't think I felt like eating
which is why I asked you tobring me watermelon and sorbet.

Lindsay (19:56):
eating,

Jordan (19:57):
Because those are like not foods.

Lindsay (19:58):
you to

Jordan (20:00):
It's like hydrating and cooling and and yeah, it's yeah,

Lindsay (20:04):
Um, because those are like, not foods.
Yeah,

Jordan (20:10):
back?
Yeah, so we stayed at home untilprobably about 4pm is my guess.
So from like about 5 hours andman my contractions for the last
few were gnarly.
Like the, I remember leaningagainst this like little
banister rail I have near mystairs.
And the only thing I could dowhen I felt a contraction surge
was lean against that and beg myhusband to come and like press,

(20:30):
you know, into my hips.
Yes.
It helped, marginally, but ithelps, you know?
And I was, we were doing thatfor

Lindsay (20:38):
with my

Jordan (20:39):
And I spoke with my sister.
I kept texting people like, whenshould I go back?
And my sister was like, dude, Iwent from one centimeter to
eight in like, ten minutes.

Lindsay (20:48):
you went fast.

Jordan (20:49):
then I was like, shit, uh, I

Lindsay (20:50):
Yeah.
So then you probably just timedyour contractions at that point.
Did you call when you went backor did you show up

Jordan (20:57):
I called.
Yeah, I called the second timebecause I was like, I don't know
what to do.

Lindsay (21:01):
Are they going to send me home again?

Jordan (21:03):
I don't, I still don't want Pitocin.
I still feel like I got this.

Lindsay (21:06):
I got this.

Jordan (21:07):
but I like, you know, I also don't want to like have my
kid in the car on the way to thehospital.
And they were like, if you, ifyou feel, if it feels that
strong, you may as well comeback if you want to be here for
it.
And I was like, okay, cool.
So we head back, we hightailback to the hospital.
This time I was really bummed Iforgot my pillow.

Lindsay (21:24):
pillow.
Aww.

Jordan (21:26):
Luckily my sister brought it for me later in the
night before I, like, tried toget some rest.
I mean, sleep is a stretch.

Lindsay (21:32):
that lady at the front desk was like, okay.
You're back, and yeah,

Jordan (21:36):
back.
Let's get you in your actualroom now.

Lindsay (21:39):
That's hilarious.

Jordan (21:40):
I go back into the room.
I had eaten a little bit.
Yeah, I kind of bounced on theball that this is when they got
me the ball.
And I had a room that had abathtub that I thought I would
use, but I didn't want it.
Like, I didn't want to get inthe bath.
I didn't want to sit on thetoilet like I thought I would
want to.
I didn't

Lindsay (21:55):
Didn't seem comfy, maybe?
I don't know.

Jordan (21:56):
was comfortable.
The only, and then, like, therewas no position where
contractions were comfortable.
So, like, when I felt one surge,sitting was really bad.
Laying was quite bad.
Standing was like

Lindsay (22:08):
bad.

Jordan (22:08):
So I just like would kind of hurry and stand up and
yeah, I was all over the placeand you know I remember just
like crying a bunch and it wasjust all like feeling like a lot

Lindsay (22:20):
all that?

Jordan (22:21):
so yeah, I think I maintained a sense of calm
throughout the whole thing butum was definitely not comfy

Lindsay (22:28):
Yeah, I would assume you're like putting the word
epidural in your head at this

Jordan (22:33):
Not yet.

Lindsay (22:33):
Really?
Good for you.
Oh.
I

Jordan (22:35):
I mean, is it good?
I don't know.
Yeah,

Lindsay (22:38):
Well, I mean you're powering through and you're
talking, you're breathingthrough it and you're talking
your way through it and all theuncomfortableness and like.

Jordan (22:44):
And this was for me, this was like worse than the
pushing part.
Yeah, there's just somethingabout like, not quite, like when
you're, I feel like when you're,when you get to the pushing
stage you actually havesomething that you're actively
doing, and you have like apurpose, and you have

Lindsay (22:58):
have, like,

Jordan (22:59):
you know, like an action to take, and this is just like a
waiting game, and it took sofucking long for me that like
this part was kind of gruelingand pretty torturous, but yeah,
no, I didn't think about takingan epidural, By the time, like,
12 o'clock hit again, so we'relike, hour almost like 23 ish,
hour 23, 24, happened, they werelike, okay, we're going to go

(23:22):
ahead and, Break your membranesand see if we can get any like
progress because I was I wasconsistently like dilating more
and more every time They checkedme.
I had dilated more.
So no one was like she's not inlabor.
I was like thousand percent Iwas definitely in labor I was
dilated to like a seven or eightat this point But that for some
reason that just wasn't likeenough to get things going.

(23:43):
And I finally was like, I don'twant I still don't want Pitocin
I still hadn't had anymedication, but I am okay with
you breaking my membrane And sothey came in, broke the
membranes, and they were like,everything should be happening
pretty soon.
I'm like, okay, this is going tobe interesting.
Um, let's go.
And then they're like, try andget some rest for now, because

(24:03):
you're not feeling the urge topush yet.
So I kind of tried to get somerest.
Come like 3 a.
m.
is when I finally was miserableenough, because I think part of
it was like, my husband was kindof falling asleep next to me, so
I was sort of like losing that.

Lindsay (24:14):
Like, support in the middle of the night, or like,

Jordan (24:16):
and like just so going so long with the same like every
couple minutes like gnarly surgecontractions and I just couldn't
be comfortable in bed and Iwanted my husband to be able to
rest too,

Lindsay (24:27):
Yeah, of

Jordan (24:27):
obviously we both are going to need it.
So finally at like 3 a.
m.
they offered an epidural again.
And I was like, yeah, okay, gofor it.
And this part I felt reallyscared about, but luckily the
girl who gave me the epiduralwas awesome.
I get nervous about newmedication in my body.

Lindsay (24:43):
it.
Yeah.

Jordan (24:43):
like when you don't know how you're going to respond to
it.
And that was the point when Iwas like the most anxious
actually was getting theepidural, which is odd.

Lindsay (24:50):
gave me the epidural, In retrospect.
Uh she

Jordan (24:54):
gave me the epidural.

Lindsay (24:56):
And then like, legs go numb.

Jordan (24:58):
Yes, which was so weird.

Lindsay (25:01):
It's like how heavy they still, they feel even
though they're numb.

Jordan (25:04):
The weirdest part for me was

Lindsay (25:05):
even turn.

Jordan (25:06):
like, fart.
Like anytime I had to like passgas, I could be like more
ladylike.
It felt like I was literallypooing myself and had like no
control.
It was so bizarre.
I remember being so weirded outby that.
Yeah, that was crazy.
Anyway, so membranes are broken,epidurals in, it's like four or
5am at this point.

(25:27):
They take my temperature and Iwas high so then they had to
give me some

Lindsay (25:30):
they had to give me some

Jordan (25:31):
Which was the first kind of bummer for me, I was like, I
don't want to do antibioticsright now, jeez, they don't, I
don't sit well with antibiotics,they make me not

Lindsay (25:39):
Well then you gotta work on your gut biome all over

Jordan (25:41):
Yeah, true, yeah, so anyway, I was like, fine, you
know, I trust, I trust you all,like, go for it, give me the
antibiotics.
They give me the antibiotics,the morning comes and goes,
well, not really, it was 10am,10am is when I started feeling
like I needed to

Lindsay (25:56):
a.

Jordan (25:56):
And I told them, I was like, Hey, I've been feeling the
urge to push.
And I kind of had been feelingit for like a little bit.

Lindsay (26:01):
been feeling it for like a little bit.
I

Jordan (26:04):
I don't know what it was.
It was feel, felt almostentirely mental to me.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I'm like, okay, I think Ineed to push.
And they were like, okay, okay,great.
And they go grab the doctor.
They come in, they seteverything up.
I got like, had like a peanutball, which was like, part of my
plan was to like do knees andcalves out sort of pushing.
It was all wild ride.
My husband was really great andsupportive and like holding my

(26:26):
leg while I pushed.
I pushed for three hours.
I pushed for three

Lindsay (26:30):
insane.
How many pushes an hour did youdo?

Jordan (26:33):
was doing one ivory contraction.

Lindsay (26:36):
every contraction.
Yeah.
I

Jordan (26:38):
I was doing one every contraction, but I did take a
couple little breaks becausewhat happened is my kid was,
facing the wrong way, so shewasn't breech, she was face

Lindsay (26:48):
need to

Jordan (26:49):
and babies need to be face down to come out,

Lindsay (26:52):
they ask you if they could

Jordan (26:54):
Yes, and I was like, yeah, do whatever you need to
do.
So the doctor's freaking armdeep in my uterus, like his hand
is inside of my uterus.
My husband's like, they're

Lindsay (27:04):
I've never seen

Jordan (27:04):
got his forearm in my wife.
Um, so he, and he got her tospin a couple of times.
So like he'd spin her and thenwe'd push again for like 40
minutes.

Lindsay (27:13):
impressive.
And

Jordan (27:14):
she wouldn't make that much progress, so then he'd go
back and he'd be like, Oh, she'sfaced, she's faced up again,
spin her again.
But she just kept spinning backaround.
So we kept thinking, it's allgood, we'll get her out doing
this eventually.
And we just kept trying andtrying and

Lindsay (27:28):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Three hours.

Jordan (27:31):
Three hours of this, yeah.
Finally, I just got too

Lindsay (27:34):
And you were just like, I'm exhausted.
I can't push anymore.
Did you call

Jordan (27:38):
I didn't.
But I think everyone around mewas like, this girl's I hadn't
slept in, at this point, it'slike a day and a half of no

Lindsay (27:46):
Yeah.
They probably

Jordan (27:47):
like two days of no sleep, like two and a half days
of no sleep, because I hadn'tslept since the night before the
night I had gone into thehospital.
It was crazy, yeah, so, theywere like, you need to try and
get some rest.
We're gonna go talk about ouroptions, so me and my husband
are just sitting in the roomlike, This sucks.
They came back with a list ofoptions for me and the options
were these.
Keep trying to push but useforceps.

Lindsay (28:10):
Mm

Jordan (28:10):
or C section.

Lindsay (28:12):
That's,

Jordan (28:13):
That's, that's it.
And the forceps option, when thenurse and the doctor were
explaining it to me, they werelike, so we can keep trying for
vaginal delivery and we can useforceps.
The issue with forceps is thatthe likelihood that yeah,
you're, you're going to get atear between your vagina and
your colon is Very

Lindsay (28:31):
And you don't want that

Jordan (28:32):
And that is a surgery that you can't really fully
recover from.
Like, those tissues just neverquite go back to normal so
you're gonna be like, you know,having problems defecating later
in life and all sorts of issues.
And I was like, Oh God, thatdoes not sound good.
That sounds like a gnarlyrecovery.

Lindsay (28:49):
So when you're like, there's one other option, how
were you trying to be okay andaccept

Jordan (28:56):
I didn't at first.
I fully didn't accept it.
I didn't want a C section.
Nobody like wants a C section.
So I was like, shit, well, Ikind of don't know what to do.
So at this point I texted mysister.
I texted you.
and Lindsay was my bestresource.
She said

Lindsay (29:12):
So, FYI, I work in the setting.
Yes.
And I have delivered babies viac section in the hundreds.
So yes, you, you text me andyou're like, what's up?

Jordan (29:25):
Yeah, like, which option do I choose?
Basically.
Do you remember what you said?

Lindsay (29:29):
Yeah, I said, okay, here, you're somewhere safe.
I don't, I hope this is okay tosay.
I, I did suggest that you mightnot want your team

Jordan (29:39):
Yes, that's exactly what you said.

Lindsay (29:41):
And, you know, your team works really well under
stress, and they're willing todo whatever they can for you.
and for

Jordan (29:51):
made it very clear it was my

Lindsay (29:52):
Yes, which is great and wonderful, but there, there is
stressful moments with a team.
And like I said, we're trainedto work through them.
We're trained to work reallywell through them.
But one thing that is ideal isto not be stressed because one
thing can lead to another reallyquick and

Jordan (30:13):
Yeah, so yeah, exactly.
So yeah, what she said was, whatI remember the concise, like
text message version of this waslike, I would do whatever your
OB feels most comfortable with,

Lindsay (30:24):
really, here's the thing, you really want that
person to be really good attheir job.

Jordan (30:28):
do near, you're absolutely right.
Like, I don't want, if he's notgiven that many forcep
deliveries, like I don't wanthim to be fucking putting those

Lindsay (30:36):
Or you, or right, or your colon could sit differently
in your body than anotherperson.
And like,

Jordan (30:41):
Yeah,

Lindsay (30:42):
just don't.

Jordan (30:43):
And I don't want it to sit differently the rest of my
life from how it is.
So, I was like, I was reallytorn, in this moment.
And Lindsay's advice reallyhelped me because I, yeah, I was
able to put into perspectivelike, okay, these guys do this.
Literally every

Lindsay (30:57):
every day.
So

Jordan (30:58):
So they're very comfortable, I can also become
very comfortable.

Lindsay (31:01):
sure you felt their comfort

Jordan (31:02):
I did.

Lindsay (31:03):
went into that room.

Jordan (31:04):
Oh, a thousand times I did.
Dude, I was so cozy going intothat OR, but anyway.
Before that, the other person Ispoke with was this epic nurse
that I had.
She was an older nurse, she

Lindsay (31:15):
They're the best.
Labor and delivery

Jordan (31:18):
So good.
She was so good.
She came into the room and waslike, you know, asking me how I
was feeling, could tell I wasfeeling exhausted and sad and
like, just like kind ofconfused.
And this is like the worst placeto be mentally when you're like
trying to make a really bigdecision like

Lindsay (31:36):
Yeah.
You know?

Jordan (31:37):
know?
And my husband was supersupportive and talking through
it with me as well.
And I asked her, I said, whatwould you, what would you do?
And she said, I had every singleone of my babies.
I don't remember if she had likethree or four babies, but it was
more than two.
was in the same situation thatyou're in.
And mine were all delivered withforceps, successfully.
however, the doctor whodelivered them was like, a

(32:00):
legend with forceps.
And he like, he was like amagician.
And I haven't seen anyone thatgood with forceps since then.
And honestly, girl, like,

Lindsay (32:11):
yeah,

Jordan (32:12):
The C section will be so much easier to recover from than
a tear like

Lindsay (32:16):
that.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Jordan (32:17):
And her advice really, yeah, I was just like
reiterating what you saidbasically.
And I was thinking aboutrecovery and I was like, okay,
yeah, that's fair.
So then they started prepping meand getting the paperwork done.
But when they came to do thepaperwork, there was another
woman OB, because the otherdoctor had to leave for a bit.
So this woman OB comes in andshe was like, Kind of just

(32:39):
wanted to feel for herself andshe felt my baby's head and was
like, Hmm, she's the right wayaround now.
And I had already like signedthe paperwork for this c
section.
They were like taking me out andI was like, Oh my god, so now a
ton of time has gone by.
It's like basically 1.
30pm now, about.
But she was like, Okay, well,let's get you going.

(33:01):
I And I was like, but she's,yeah, yeah, to go have a c
section.
And, and I was like, but she'sthe right way around?
Like, and you're gonna have mego back for a c section?
Like, I was so confused.
I was like, can't we keeptrying?
And my husband, I, I didn't havethe energy to advocate for
myself in this moment.
I felt broken, and tired, andlike, I, like, I felt like I had

(33:21):
to surrender to this doctor whodidn't, She was just going about
her work day, like she wasn'tvery

Lindsay (33:27):
busy.
They are so

Jordan (33:28):
Yeah,

Lindsay (33:29):
I can't even, like, Obies, I swear, are the busiest
people in that hospital.

Jordan (33:33):
didn't give a f like, I, like, I don't, like, I get it,
but she, I didn't feel like shereally gave a fuck about, like,
the experience I was having, butmy husband did, and in that
moment he, like, looked at me,and he said, if you want to keep
pushing,

Lindsay (33:45):
Push on your way there.
Push right now on your waythere.
I

Jordan (33:48):
Well, he said just, like, you can keep pushing.
And, like, he really, like,really, really advocated for me
in that moment.
And, like, just brought all mystrength back.
Which was so awesome.

Lindsay (33:58):
was

Jordan (33:59):
Ugh, I could cry.
Anyway, so then, I was like,Yeah, I want to keep pushing and
then the the team was like, okaylike that, you know They were
respectful and like they she'slike, all right Well, you got to
push really fucking hard told mehow to push and it was like, you
know in a way That's differentto what I had been practicing
Which was like a little bitannoying But I did my best,
dude.

(34:19):
I like really animaled out forthis last little bit.
Like I was trying so hard and Iwas so tanked.
I, yeah, like can't, you can'timagine this level of exhaustion
or this level of effort

Lindsay (34:33):
level of effort.
And

Jordan (34:34):
And the nurse, like kind of after like 45 minutes of
that, she's like, you need to,you need to rest.
And then the doctor left and shewas like, I don't think your
baby spun back around.
I think she's still face up.

Lindsay (34:47):
said that to

Jordan (34:48):
The nurse said that to me.
She's like, I've done this a lotof times, and I know, like, that
the, you know, the doctor'ssaying what she's saying.
I don't think she's, I don't, Ipersonally,

Lindsay (34:55):
don't think, personally, like,

Jordan (34:57):
yeah.
And it was that same nurse, andI was like, okay, and she's
like, I'm gonna get you anultrasound machine.
And I'm going to give you anultrasound, and we'll just
double check, because if youwant to keep pushing, and she's
right, the right way around,then you can keep pushing.
And I'm so defeated in thismoment, I'm like basically
sleeping.

Lindsay (35:14):
You like prove

Jordan (35:15):
Yeah, so she's, so she, this angel brought this
ultrasound machine in, showed methat my baby was in fact, still
the wrong way

Lindsay (35:22):
Yeah.
And you're like, okay, let's go.

Jordan (35:24):
And at that point I knew so like that was the one thing
that allowed me to be congruentwith the decision to go into the
OR when I wasn't ready

Lindsay (35:31):
Yeah.

Jordan (35:32):
You know I hadn't exhausted all my effort just yet
so like I'm so grateful that shedid that for me because in that
moment nothing

Lindsay (35:40):
felt more

Jordan (35:41):
felt more right than being taken into the OR and and
that like it's so weird.

Lindsay (35:47):
is so weird because you, we all have these plans, A,
B, C, whatever.
And you didn't have that on yourplans.

Jordan (35:56):
at all! Like, not at

Lindsay (35:58):
then, and then you felt so right to make that decision.

Jordan (36:01):
Yes, even in that moment of like, abso And it was thanks
to my husband who was able tolike, Advocate for me when I
didn't have it for

Lindsay (36:09):
thanks to that

Jordan (36:10):
And thanks to that nurse who was able to like show me
because I think she could seethat I was going to do
everything I could to avoid a Csection.

Lindsay (36:16):
section.
She

Jordan (36:17):
And she like was caring

Lindsay (36:18):
moment in

Jordan (36:19):
moment in a way that I couldn't, I didn't know how to
care for myself.
You know what I mean?

Lindsay (36:23):
what

Jordan (36:24):
Which is so cool.
Anyway, so my husband got suitedup in his little outfit and he
was way more nervous than me.
When we got into the OR, I wasthe moment that nurse like told
me that, a calm washed over me.

Lindsay (36:36):
Yeah, and everyone was set up, ready.
Everyone

Jordan (36:38):
was ready to go.
They had a song that I likedplaying.
It was like the weekend orsomething.
Everyone was happy.
It was like, I, I know ORs areprobably really intimidating for
people who don't work in themlike you do, but.
It was, it felt like

Lindsay (36:52):
yeah, there are so many that are like, Woo, let's have a
baby,

Jordan (36:55):
it was so cool.
And they laid me on the table.
They didn't strap my arms down.
Lindsay had advised me to getsome anti nausea medicine, which
was like clutch.

Lindsay (37:04):
cause they'll, uh, they'll pound on

Jordan (37:06):
Oh boy, that was wild.
I won't go into the full detailof like, what the c section
experience was like, but just beready for like, the weirdest.
I was like, this feels like whatI would imagine what happens to
your body when you're like,abducted by aliens

Lindsay (37:20):
You're a fash yeah.

Jordan (37:22):
explored.
This is, it is so fucking weird.

Lindsay (37:26):
Yeah, I'm glad you, I'm glad you did get that.
Cause that can send people.

Jordan (37:31):
Dude, it sent me, I mean, it sent me even with the,
it was intense.
It was so intense, but it was socool.
So they, the doctor had to like,pry my kid's head out of my
pelvic bone because I had beenpushing for so long.
So unfortunately,

Lindsay (37:46):
She had a

Jordan (37:46):
the c section, she still had a little, it wasn't super
coney like the shape, but shedefinitely, her head was like
beat up

Lindsay (37:52):
up.
Bruised and

Jordan (37:53):
Yeah, which was sad.
And she had had some meconium inthe, somewhere,

Lindsay (37:57):
Yeah, yeah.
I

Jordan (37:59):
remember.
But so there was like a, youknow, the respiratory team was
there, they took her out of theroom straight away.
And the feeling that when theypull your baby out of your
abdomen like that, Oh, it's soweird.
It's so.
Weird.
It's so weird.
Wow.

Lindsay (38:15):
Yeah.
I can't even

Jordan (38:16):
like taking psychedelics.
Like

Lindsay (38:18):
Like, you don't

Jordan (38:19):
you don't know what it's like till you've tried it.
I can't even try.

Lindsay (38:22):
Right.

Jordan (38:23):
Um, I say they took her out.
I heard her crying.
That was really comforting.
I still felt great.
Like I was ready.
I was ready to be with her, butI was like calm.
I was

Lindsay (38:33):
I was

Jordan (38:34):
She was gone for quite a while, but then my husband
brought her back and he walkedkind of like around the

Lindsay (38:39):
walked around holding

Jordan (38:41):
Yeah, he walked around holding her and I just remember
this like

Lindsay (38:44):
have that

Jordan (38:45):
brought her next to me and yeah, and I totally just got
to have that surge of like,yeah, absolute like Bliss isn't
the right word and like joy isnot the right word.
It's just this expansivenessthat's like hard to describe.

Lindsay (39:01):
crazy.
So,

Jordan (39:02):
Yeah, it's crazy.
So yeah, I got to have that.
I didn't get to hold her yet,but like I felt her skin, like
her little cheek on mine and,and Adrian was stoked and we had
some pictures taken and yeah,such a good moment.
And then they took her down tolike do some more, whatever they
do just to check, make surenothing's like going on with her
respiratory system andeverything.

(39:23):
And he got to go down with themand like watch the team, like
work with her while they closedme up and then put

Lindsay (39:28):
what a really cool experience for him.

Jordan (39:30):
it was.
I think it, yeah, I

Lindsay (39:31):
And so then you were probably reunited with her in
the room or did they bring

Jordan (39:36):
Yeah, yeah, I was reunited in the room.
It took a little while.
And by the time they brought herin, I was like, definitely
starting to lose that patience.
Like, I was just really anxiousto, like, actually meet her and
hold her.

Lindsay (39:46):
to

Jordan (39:46):
and I was also so tired.
I was so tired that this momentis so hazy in my mind, but it's
like this glowy little haze.
so yeah, a nurse brought her inand was like trying to tell me
some breastfeeding things likeright away.
Cause I guess they wanted me tobreastfeed her obviously.
But like, I was like, shut upand give me my child.
Like, I don't care what I, like,will not listen to any of the
words

Lindsay (40:06):
it goes over your head.

Jordan (40:07):
in your arms and she's about to be

Lindsay (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think that you're right.
Like the information overload.
It's a little much and you're,

Jordan (40:16):
I mean, what else are you going to do though when
you're

Lindsay (40:17):
They have to do it, but

Jordan (40:19):
to have to be like, now you want to put her on your, you
know, your

Lindsay (40:22):
yeah, it's just too much like more work.
You're like, well,

Jordan (40:25):
yeah, I mean, but that is what I wanted to do

Lindsay (40:27):
yes,

Jordan (40:28):
was just like, let me do this.
I didn't feel like I needed tobe told

Lindsay (40:30):
needed to be

Jordan (40:32):
and yeah.
And luckily, yeah, it all workedout really nicely.
They transferred me down at thispoint It's like she was born
around like 3 30.
I think 3 39 was when they endedup

Lindsay (40:42):
falling asleep.
I did.
It wasn't hard for me.
I've

Jordan (40:45):
Did Wasn't hard for me dude.
I hadn't slept since like ThereI went to was it two full nights
without sleep.
Yeah, two full nights withoutsleep.
So I was like

Lindsay (40:54):
any sleep.
I

Jordan (40:56):
Like, without any sleep.
I was so tired.
And all that pushing, like,dude, I was so

Lindsay (41:02):
And

Jordan (41:03):
So I actually did sleep pretty well, and she slept
pretty well.
We had her in the room with us,and we stayed in the hospital
for a few beautiful, beautifuldays.
And everything was, everythingwas all good, you know?
Healed up, and

Lindsay (41:14):
and You guys, you guys knew the name before going in?

Jordan (41:19):
No.

Lindsay (41:20):
okay.
At all?
Was it on the list?

Jordan (41:24):
was on the list, but we didn't put that name on a piece
of paper until the day we leftthe hospital.
It was like three days later.

Lindsay (41:30):
That's hilarious.
Did you just call her of all thenames and just We called her
Baby.
Okay.
And then just figure it out.
Okay, that is for sure it.
Good.
That's really

Jordan (41:41):
we struggle with naming kids you guys.
It's, it's uh, it's tough.
I always tell people it's thehardest part of having a

Lindsay (41:47):
I think it is.

Jordan (41:48):
that whole story I just told you, I still think that
way.

Lindsay (41:51):
Yeah, you'll have like a list going for a while.
You know, whatever.
And then all of a sudden you goback to it and you're like, I
hate that name.
You know,

Jordan (41:58):
it's so weird and stupid.

Lindsay (42:00):
Yeah, our, our name was like last minute.

Jordan (42:03):
Yeah, yeah, I remember being like, wait, what?
I didn't even hear you say thatname.

Lindsay (42:09):
Yeah.

Jordan (42:10):
That's

Lindsay (42:10):
Oh, what a fun, crazy.
Yes.

Jordan (42:14):
Yes, yeah, and so the moral of the story is like

Lindsay (42:18):
Have all your plans.
Let's see what, see whathappens.
Yeah.
See what happens.

Jordan (42:23):
and my hope for everyone who has ever had a baby or who
will ever have a baby is thatyou're able to like, make peace
with the way.
You had it, because it's like abeautiful part of your story no
matter what it looks like.

Lindsay (42:36):
Yeah.

Jordan (42:37):
I was just, yeah, so grateful, yeah, I mean, I was
really grateful at the end

Lindsay (42:41):
really grateful.
Yeah, it is, yeah, like oncethey're in your arms and they're
here and they're healthy, it'sjust like the most amazing
thing.

Jordan (42:49):
I did have a lot of tears, looking back on the
moment when I, Felt so happy inthe, in like the hospital room
looking over at the diaper andthe hat.
That was like the moment that Ihad to mourn the most.
so it'll be like something weirdand random for you maybe that
you don't expect that creates alittle bit of like tension in
your system.
But, yeah, I, the more time goeson the less important.

(43:14):
The, the method behind thatstory becomes, and the more
important the bond that I havewith my kid bec Like, she is

Lindsay (43:21):
Right.
Exactly.

Jordan (43:22):
exists in the world because of that.
So, it's great.
Yeah.
Anyway, thanks for listeningeverybody, that went long.

Lindsay (43:31):
Birth stories are worthy, you know, how many, no
matter how many minutes.

Jordan (43:34):
so you'll hear one more from me at some point down the
road.
And, um, yeah.

Lindsay (43:39):
I feel like not too long.
I mean, yeah,

Jordan (43:42):
It won't be, it'll come quick.
I think it's gonna come quick.
I gotta, I gotta think of names.

Lindsay (43:47):
I gotta, I gotta think

Jordan (43:49):
cool.
Yeah, well thank you.

Lindsay (43:50):
Cool.
Awesome.

Jordan (43:51):
you like this little piece of bonus

Lindsay (43:53):
like this little content.
Yeah.
Uh, we'll be looking forwardLindsay.
Yeah.
Up next.
Bye.

Jordan (44:01):
Good night.

Lindsay (44:02):
Good night.
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