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Jordan (00:00):
I had, you know, like,
followed some people on
(00:01):
Instagram who were birth doulasand talked to a couple birth
doulas in real life and createdthis beautiful plan for myself,
had all the things, you know,like I had the comb to squeeze
if my contractions got bad, Ihad a playlist
Lindsay (00:12):
that in the hospital?
No! Oh, gosh.
Jordan (00:14):
Of the things I'm about
to say, I did about 2 percent of
Lindsay (00:18):
yeah.
Like, how much of the first
Jordan (00:19):
your birth plan did you
follow, really?
Alright, um, hello.
Lindsay (00:30):
Hi! Welcome back!
Jordan (00:31):
back,
Lindsay (00:32):
had a snack, graham
cracker, nectarine.
Jordan (00:35):
gonna pretend this is
just like a, we didn't just
record an episode.
Lindsay (00:38):
didn't even just record
it.
Jordan (00:39):
Oh, okay.
But everyone wants to hear aboutour snack.
I love it.
Pregnant
Lindsay (00:44):
snack.
Yeah, pregnant lady's
Jordan (00:46):
Yeah, pregnant ladies
had her snack.
And I'm ready to record.
Lindsay (00:49):
are so good right now,
it's like a tease that the peach
season, that's
Jordan (00:52):
I know, yeah, I can't
wait.
Oof, my favorite season of theyear.
Lindsay (00:56):
I hope I can give you
some of our new peaches.
Yeah,
Jordan (00:59):
Yeah, I can't believe
your peach tree is already
producing
Lindsay (01:01):
are already
Jordan (01:02):
Yeah.
And speaking of producing fruit.
I love you.
I love you too.
I love
Lindsay (01:09):
Let's chat.
How did it go?
Jordan (01:12):
about a birth story?
Yes.
Lindsay (01:16):
might, this thing might
not be fun for maybe like, new
moms that aren't, that arepregnant now and haven't had
their baby.
But this topic comes up with meand my neighbors, my random
people that I see at the park,pool, we just start blurting out
our birth story because I thinkwe just really need it to be
(01:38):
validated or heard or expressedand we somehow like get it.
Jordan (01:42):
And you want to hear
other people's.
I'm always interested to hear
Lindsay (01:44):
yeah, everyone's is so
different.
talked to like all my neighborsabout it Never would I have
thought I'd have theseconversations with people.
Yeah, they're just so cool.
Yeah.
Jordan (01:57):
such a wild
Lindsay (01:58):
Yeah, and then I think
you also want to know, like,
what could also be expected ifyou didn't think of
Jordan (02:05):
Sometimes I do,
sometimes I don't.
But yes, I, generally, you'redefinitely
Lindsay (02:11):
Yeah, so this is like a
fun, Jordan's going to share her
birth story.
I'll do my birth story next.
Jordan (02:17):
Yeah, we'll talk,
Lindsay (02:18):
I don't know if I'll,
yeah, I think our plan is for me
to do it right after thisepisode, but, yeah.
Jordan (02:24):
you know, we're moms and
we're adaptable and shit changes
Lindsay (02:26):
yeah.
Jordan (02:27):
we move forward.
Lindsay (02:28):
have to move forward
with like the next new thing to
talk
Jordan (02:31):
Yeah.
Slash uh, yeah, the adaptabilityis a good theme for this story.
Lindsay (02:37):
Yeah, this is a fun,
this is a fun, light hearted
episode, so.
Jordan (02:40):
eh?
Hopefully.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it, I think it'llbe
Lindsay (02:43):
it'll be fun.
Mm hmm.
I kind of like,
Jordan (02:45):
there were, I, yeah,
this, this labor and delivery
process for me to not go the wayI had hoped slash planned.
There was a lot of turmoil.
It was not short, but.
Despite the fact that I did havelike a little mourning process
afterwards, I feel,
Lindsay (03:01):
Yeah.
but
Jordan (03:03):
yeah, that it all got
tied in a nice little bow and
I'm congruent with
Lindsay (03:07):
Yeah, you're in a
better place.
Well,
Jordan (03:09):
Well, yeah, and I think
I was in an okay place for the
most part along the way.
There were a couple bumps in theroad and we'll talk about them.
So, yeah, if
Lindsay (03:18):
is,
Jordan (03:19):
yeah, go ahead.
Lindsay (03:19):
No, I was going to say,
this is for your daughter that's
23 months
Jordan (03:22):
23 months.
Yes, yep.
Okay.
Lindsay (03:24):
Yeah.
and then we'll have anotherbirth story someday soon.
Jordan (03:28):
Yeah, very soon.
Jeez, it's coming up quick.
Lindsay (03:31):
in preparation for
Jordan (03:33):
yeah, in preparation for
getting ready for this second
birth, I think the first stepthat I wanted to take is just to
really dive back into my firstbirth and explore all the
feelings and the steps in theprocess, all of it.
Um, and just kind of bring itback to the surface and, and
yeah, reflect on what went well,what didn't go well.
I think I mentioned this in acouple episodes ago, but this is
(03:55):
it.
So this is, yeah, this is partof that process.
Thank you for allowing me toblurt it out at you all.
I hope it's interesting.
I hope it resonates.
Yeah.
Lindsay (04:06):
Yeah.
Have you journaled your birthstory?
Jordan (04:09):
I have, yeah.
It was, I, it took me a long, itactually took me a long time.
It took me like almost a year.
I don't know.
It took me a long time to getthrough.
Lindsay (04:20):
it done in, like, a
setting.
Jordan (04:22):
No.
And you're, you know, you don'tlike the postpartum periods.
If anyone managed tosuccessfully do a full journal
of their birth story in thefirst couple months postpartum,
that's
Lindsay (04:31):
Yeah, very.
Jordan (04:33):
Yeah, no, for me it was,
no, I was sleeping with a baby
on my chest
Lindsay (04:37):
with
Jordan (04:38):
during that time.
And yeah, processing things, ittakes a long time.
So yeah, I, I gave birth in lateAugust, 2022.
Thankfully post COVID for all ofyou who gave birth during COVID
times.
Woo hats off to you.
Cause God damn, would that bestressful?
So yes, I was grateful that thatwas, that was all over.
(05:00):
yeah, it was a nice long labor,but so it all started, I think I
had a kind of a normal Saturday,
Lindsay (05:07):
that day.
Probably
Jordan (05:08):
It was a weekend.
Yep, didn't do much that dayprobably was just you know in
that sort of pre birth hazeWhere you're like any moment now
any minute any hour any day mylife is gonna be
Lindsay (05:20):
going into labor soon,
or am I
Jordan (05:22):
Yeah, it's like
Lindsay (05:23):
do I have a lot of
energy because I'm going into
labor
Jordan (05:25):
a twilight zone the pre
like the like the last couple
weeks especially before givingbirth I feel like is just Feels
like a weird kind of giddyemotional limbo.
Yeah, it's such a
Lindsay (05:37):
waiting
Jordan (05:39):
Yeah, I remember telling
my husband at some point this
waiting process feels like we'reon a boat in like the calmest
waters.
And we can like, see a storm onthe horizon and we know it's
gonna be gnarly and crazy and wehave no idea like how long it's
gonna take to get to us
Lindsay (05:57):
Or if it's gonna go
around you.
Jordan (05:59):
for it.
Yeah or if it's gonna comearound like it's just like a
sense of like damn we gottafucking batten the hatches and I
don't know what it means tobatten hatches
Lindsay (06:09):
So this is, um, you're
describing this, you are
planning a natural birth.
Jordan (06:14):
natural Yeah yep that
was the plan yeah
Lindsay (06:16):
not a planned c
section, you're, you're, you're
in limbo
Jordan (06:20):
yeah, I, yep, yep, I
don't, I'm not the kind of
person who likes the feeling ofbeing medicated, that's like, I
don't, I'm not againstmedications either, uh, just to
be clear.
Put that out there, but
Lindsay (06:30):
but,
Jordan (06:31):
I've always really hated
like pangulars and things like
that like just don't sit wellwith me And then also we've
talked about this but there'sthis pressure to to do like a
natural and medicated home birthis like the be all and all of of
Birth and I'm done.
I'm not putting that down Ithink it probably is the be all
like I can't imagine feelingmore badass than being able to
(06:52):
birth my kid at home withoutmedication
Lindsay (06:54):
That's perfect.
Jordan (06:55):
Um, but for me and my
husband, we're the kind of
people who like plans.
We're the kind of people wholike, uh, structure and
stability and,
Lindsay (07:03):
Answers, questions.
Jordan (07:05):
Absolutely.
And I've always felt prettycomfortable in a hospital
setting, personally.
So that wasn't something thatwas off putting to me.
I didn't think that was going toaffect, like, my oxytocin levels
and things like that, forexample.
Lindsay (07:15):
yeah.
Jordan (07:16):
So, all in all, we were
pretty happy.
It was like a simple choice forus.
It was never gonna be a homebirth for this first one.
It was just gonna be a hospitalbirth.
So that was my plan, and I had,you know, like, followed some
people on Instagram who werebirth doulas and talked to a
couple birth doulas in real lifeand created this beautiful plan
for myself, had all the things,you know, like I had the comb to
squeeze if my contractions gotbad, I had a playlist
Lindsay (07:38):
that in the hospital?
No! Oh, gosh.
Jordan (07:40):
Of the things I'm about
to say, I did about 2 percent of
Lindsay (07:44):
yeah.
Like, how much of the first
Jordan (07:45):
your birth plan did you
follow, really?
Oh my god, like, none.
Lindsay (07:49):
was the bouncy ball in
the room?
Jordan (07:51):
I had that.
Lindsay (07:52):
Was that like in the
closet and they called it a
peanut?
Jordan (07:54):
No, it's different.
No, so I had only been usingthat bouncy exercise ball like
exclusively as a chair.
Lindsay (08:03):
that last month I
Jordan (08:04):
sit on the couch.
I didn't sit on a dining table
Lindsay (08:07):
girl you're about to do
that again
Jordan (08:11):
I'm not ready.
actually did just blow up theexercise ball that you gave me
to replace mine.
Her dog, I think messed mine upwhen I let you borrow it or
something.
I don't know, but I have thenext one.
So I'll
Lindsay (08:22):
phone.
Oh, that's right, I just sent itto you.
I Amazoned it.
Jordan (08:26):
Anyway, that's beside
the point.
I did have the birth ball, butthere were like a thousand
things on my birth plan.
You know, like.
The, the light.
How do you
Lindsay (08:33):
list is too long.
Jordan (08:34):
do you want, what do you
want to be wearing?
So many count, like, do you wantany aromatherapies?
How do you want your husband tosupport you or your partner to
Lindsay (08:40):
you want music?
I was
Jordan (08:42):
it.
I had meditations downloaded.
Lindsay (08:45):
I was asked if there
was any music in our room and I
don't remember if I said yes orIf I did, I was like Hawaiian
genre,
Jordan (08:54):
That's
Lindsay (08:56):
if they did it or not.
Jordan (08:58):
That's so funny,
Hawaiian
Lindsay (09:00):
go ahead.
This is your story.
We have to, we'll talk aboutthis later.
Jordan (09:03):
funny, okay.
Yeah, anyway, so I had this bigbirth plan.
I had it all in my head.
I had watched, you know, like, acouple videos.
Seen a bunch of very beautifulpictures of labor and delivery.
Lindsay (09:14):
Yeah, you were
envisioning hardcore.
Jordan (09:16):
Totally.
As I think any woman who's aboutto give birth just inevitably
does.
Like, you know, you're about todo this big, huge event that,
you've been like thinking aboutfor basically your whole life.
And it's before a lot of us beenlike a scary thought, but you're
trying to get over that fear.
Anyway, lots of mentalpreparation, lots of physical
preparation with you know,tissue stretching exercises and
(09:37):
all the things.
Yeah, so, I go in there, I'mready.
before I go in there, I guess wehaven't really told the story
yet.
Normal Saturday,
Lindsay (09:45):
yet.
Yeah.
Normal Saturday.
Weekend.
Jordan (09:47):
We go for our little
evening stroll.
I definitely feel a lot ofpressure happening on my pelvic
floor.
Like, those last couple weeksare just like, you feel like a
watermelon's about to just like,drop out of your pelvis.
Lindsay (09:58):
out of your pelvis.
Like what sciatica nerve?
Jordan (10:00):
Yeah, so that's, you
know, that was how it was.
Late August, beautiful, hotsummer night.
me and my husband go to bed andI had kind of been feeling
pretty regular contractions likefor a couple of days.
but they would like, you know,come and go.
They weren't super regular, butthis night they were happening a
little bit more regularly andthen come like 1230 I think, I
(10:21):
don't remember if I'd fallenasleep or if I just woke up, but
come about 1230 in the morning,my husband's fast asleep beside
me.
I just started noticing thatthey were like.
Becoming quite regular.
They weren't like super painfulyet, but they were like kind of
becoming more intense.
And they, and so I started,timing them
Lindsay (10:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jordan (10:40):
Um, and they got to the
point where they were like,
whatever it is, I think it's twominutes apart or like a minute
and a bit apart.
And I was on the littlecontraction timer and it was all
happening.
And I was like, this is crazy.
And I just laid in bed and like,let it happen.
And I remember lying there you'dthink given all of the like hype
we get about how gnarly andscary labor and delivery is that
you would feel maybe like asense of tension or anxiety in
(11:01):
your body.
But instead, I just rememberevery time I had one feeling
like this calm, like almostgiddiness wash over me.
It was, it was the coolest.
Lindsay (11:15):
that like you can, if
you envision your baby hugging
you, or your uterus hugging you,is like another way to get in
that mindset.
Yeah, cool.
That's
Jordan (11:24):
use that very soon.
Um, yeah, so that's just how Ifelt naturally, which was, was
really
Lindsay (11:30):
So you stayed in bed
throughout the contractions.
They were getting quicker andquicker.
Did you have the urge to get upand use the restroom?
Okay.
Jordan (11:38):
that was the next thing
I did.
So I got up at like, after maybe30 or something minutes of them
being regular, I don't know.
I got up and went into thebathroom
Lindsay (11:45):
Middle of the night.
Jordan (11:46):
yeah, middle of the
night, we're like pushing 1am
probably about now.
Our one of many.
Lindsay (11:53):
Yeah.
Jordan (11:55):
yeah, I went to the
bathroom, noticed that my mucus
plug had, had gone.
there was like blood and, youknow, y'all, y'all out there
know what I'm talking about.
I don't need to go into
Lindsay (12:03):
to be going to
Jordan (12:05):
like, this is it.
Okay.
And I remember having, the samefeeling that I had when I, Took
my pregnancy test.
I took my pregnancy test onChristmas Day.
I was one week late on ChristmasDay.
and I remember waking up and Ihadn't told my husband that my
period was late just because Iwanted to be able to surprise
him if because I was like, oh,it's Christmas coming out.
This could be so cool.
So he got in the shower.
(12:26):
I snuck the pregnancy test outfrom beneath the like the
bathroom like sink or whateverand I like ran downstairs and I
felt my heart pounding and I waslike, oh my god, this is crazy.
And I never used that bathroomeither, so I was like, this is
gonna be so, like, it all feltvery novel.
And I, you know, I peed in acup, and I put the little stick
(12:46):
in it, and it immediately poppedup pregnant.
And I, I just had the samefeeling when I saw, like, the
mucus plug situation.
that I had had in the bathroomon Christmas.
Yeah, it's happening.
And like, I'm the only one onthis whole planet who like knows
who like has this
Lindsay (13:02):
this information this,
is
Jordan (13:04):
this is like, just, this
is just me.
And I'm like about to go sharethis.
So it's just like a reallyexciting feeling.
Lindsay (13:11):
I, into my
Jordan (13:12):
so I went back into my
bedroom, not quickly.
Like I remember being reallyslow about it.
I laid down next to Adrian and Iwas kind of just woke him up.
And I was like, hey, uh, we needto go to the hospital.
Lindsay (13:22):
Yeah.
Jordan (13:23):
And he jolted upright.
Our energies were verymismatched in that moment.
Lindsay (13:30):
okay.
Oh
Jordan (13:32):
what, really?
And you know, he was ready.
Like, he's the kind of guy who'slike,
Lindsay (13:37):
He's the
Jordan (13:37):
He's the one you want in
a str when shit hits the fan,
like, he's the one who's got hishead on straight and is like
giving orders and figuring shitout, which is great.
Um, yeah, it was great.
So he got out of bedimmediately.
We had kind of like a, you know,our hospital bag was prepped.
We had like a whole bunch offoods that were prepped to put
into a bag and take to thehospital mostly
Lindsay (13:56):
into a bag and take to
the hospital mostly for him.
I think I just showed up.
I think that was
Jordan (14:02):
I think I just showed
up.
I think that was the advice they
Lindsay (14:04):
I took
Jordan (14:04):
But I took my time.
Like, we didn't end up leavingthe house till like 2am,
probably.
Because I was like, thesecontractions are still regular.
And they're getting stronger.
I can feel them gettingstronger.
But I'm still not like, there'snothing that feels like crazy
urgent.
Lindsay (14:19):
push.
Definitely not
Jordan (14:19):
Definitely not the urge
to push.
No water's breaking.
Nothing like that.
That's how they say it in theUK.
Is that how, did that soundfunny to you when I said no
water's breaking?
Uh uh.
Okay, good.
Lindsay (14:29):
good.
Yeah.
Anyways.
So you're, okay, now you're atthe point where you're driving
to the hospital.
You're, what are, what the hellare your thoughts and your
emotions like as you're drivingto the
Jordan (14:37):
driving to the hospital?
I was kind of starting to becomea little bit more like, of like
a nervous, like excited feeling.
Like there was definitely likean, oh my god,
Lindsay (14:44):
god.
Dude, isn't it something, like,when you're pulling up to the
hospital?
Pulling into the hospitalparking lot, you're
Jordan (14:50):
I'm like getting
excited.
Like I got a big smile on myface right now because it's a
lot, like it's crazy andoverwhelming but it's also so
fucking exciting.
They don't tell you how excited,I mean maybe everyone's
experience is different but Ifelt so excited.
and yeah, it just felt like, Idon't know, like when you, when
I used to wake up really earlywith my dad to go fishing and
it's like dark outside still andyou're a kid.
(15:10):
And there's like somethingreally weird about being awake
already or something.
It was like a little bit of thatmixed with like, I'm about to
have a baby.
Lindsay (15:18):
Yeah.
There's definitely differentenergy when you're driving in
the middle of the night to a litup hospital, lights and
Jordan (15:24):
Totally.
Yeah.
And I remember feeling reallycalm along the way.
I was looking at the stars.
I was like,
Lindsay (15:30):
You'll never forget
that night in your
Jordan (15:32):
No, it's so cool.
Um, it wasn't the night I had mybaby.
Lindsay (15:36):
I know, was it the day?
The 20,
Jordan (15:39):
this is like two days
Lindsay (15:40):
I didn't, I didn't know
that.
Jordan (15:43):
that.
I have a long old labor story.
Lindsay (15:46):
I thought it was like,
Jordan (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just, okay, everyone keeplistening.
You'll find out how long it was.
Lindsay (15:51):
yeah.
Jordan (15:52):
It's not fun.
Um, but it's exciting.
So we get in there, we checkinto the hospital.
We tell them I'm, you know, thenight check in person.
Like, we're going up to laborand delivery.
We head up there.
I could tell that the girl atthe desk knew before me that I
wasn't having a kid anytimesoon.
Lindsay (16:08):
my gosh, funny.
Jordan (16:11):
that, I got that, so she
like looked at me and I could
tell what she was thinking
Lindsay (16:14):
She's like, here's your
paperwork, please go sit down
take your time
Jordan (16:19):
Yes.
It was totally that vibe.
So, you know, we do the thing.
We check in.
I get weighed.
Lindsay (16:25):
You're you're too
excited.
Jordan (16:27):
Yeah, I mean, but also I
was having consistent
Lindsay (16:30):
and it was your first
year
Jordan (16:32):
Yep, totally.
So we go in the room and, andlike, you know, the, the norm at
hospitals now is to help youalong with like Pitocin and help
you along with breaking yourmembranes and all those things.
So, you know, I'm sure thishappens all the time and the
girl stays in the hospital.
Spoiler alert, I didn't stay inthe hospital.
Um, we did stay overnight.
11am.
(16:53):
They put an IV in my arm, but Ididn't want to be medicated.
So I told them it would be okayto put the needle in my arm,
because I was open to thepossibility that the plan may
change.
No, they didn't even hook me upto, like,
Lindsay (17:04):
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Jordan (17:07):
So they got the IV ready
to go.
I asked them to not give me any,like, any hydration, any
medication, or anything.
And I spent the next You know,whatever the difference between
two and 11 is the next ninehours.
Just laying in the hospital bed.
Lindsay (17:21):
Were you in pain, and
was it uncomfortable, or were
you just
Jordan (17:23):
I was definitely
becoming uncomfortable.
Yeah.
So for the first couple hours,it was relatively chill, but I
think I had enough like energyand like adrenaline in my body
that I was, you know, goingthrough it.
And I've talked to all thenurses and they're asking about
the names.
And I remember looking over atthe little table they have set
up for the newborn with like thehat and the diaper.
Lindsay (17:41):
cute.
It's so little.
It's so little.
I can't wait to see that
Jordan (17:45):
I remember looking at
that and thinking, this is the
room my, my kid's going to beborn in and like, they're going
to take her over there and putthis little hat on her head and
like, hand her back to me.
And I like, yeah, it justbrought tears to my eyes.
And that was like, really one ofmy first moments of like, Oh my
God, this is it.
And then, you know, my husbandgot some sleep.
I got a little bit of rest, butI didn't, I don't think I slept.
(18:08):
But I did get up and like dancein the room because they tell
you to Did a little bit ofhumming and like, you know a
little bit of whatever So thatwas like a place where maybe I
was following my birth plan abit, but not really
Lindsay (18:19):
but
Jordan (18:20):
And then yeah come 11
o'clock.
I didn't see a doctor at all thewhole time I was there and at 11
in the morning, they werefinally like, you know A doctor
finally came in and she waslike, if you haven't progressed
any more than this now, werecommend Pitocin, and we
recommend, like, you know,something else to
Lindsay (18:35):
Like, essentially like
a duction type
Jordan (18:37):
Pretty much, yeah.
Yeah, pretty much.
Which, like, I, to be fair,would have been probably okay
with, given that I could tellthat my body was going into
labor.
Lindsay (18:45):
Like,
Jordan (18:46):
Like that, I mean, you
know, whatever.
But I still just didn't reallywant to do it if I didn't have
to.
Lindsay (18:52):
you don't
Jordan (18:52):
So she said, if you
don't want to do this, then the
only alternative is for you togo home and labor at home for a
little while and then come backwhen everything's feeling a
little more intense.
And I was like, okay, yep.
That sounds like
Lindsay (19:02):
of the reason I was
going home was because I was
sick.
Jordan (19:06):
I was, and most of the
reason was cause I was hungry.
You
Lindsay (19:13):
and Watermelon.
Watermelon.
And you, yeah.
You came home and you showered,
Jordan (19:17):
Yes.
And then my hair was likedisgustingly greasy.
So I was super stoked to get inthe shower and wash my hair.
And the shower helped with thecontractions.
Cause by the time I got home, itwas definitely painful.
Like it was not pleasant.
Like every two minutes, I
Lindsay (19:31):
Yeah, I remember
Jordan (19:32):
Oh,
Lindsay (19:32):
off and I was like, Oh,
you are so, you're in pain.
Jordan (19:36):
Oh, it was awful.
Yeah.
I like, yeah, it was
Lindsay (19:40):
Okay, so then at one
point you, you go home, you're
hungry, you're showered, you'refed.
Did you really feel much betterafter you
Jordan (19:47):
No, oh, but I'm grateful
that I ate.
I don't think I felt like, Idon't think I felt like eating
which is why I asked you tobring me watermelon and sorbet.
Lindsay (19:56):
eating,
Jordan (19:57):
Because those are like
not foods.
Lindsay (19:58):
you to
Jordan (20:00):
It's like hydrating and
cooling and and yeah, it's yeah,
Lindsay (20:04):
Um, because those are
like, not foods.
Yeah,
Jordan (20:10):
back?
Yeah, so we stayed at home untilprobably about 4pm is my guess.
So from like about 5 hours andman my contractions for the last
few were gnarly.
Like the, I remember leaningagainst this like little
banister rail I have near mystairs.
And the only thing I could dowhen I felt a contraction surge
was lean against that and beg myhusband to come and like press,
(20:30):
you know, into my hips.
Yes.
It helped, marginally, but ithelps, you know?
And I was, we were doing thatfor
Lindsay (20:38):
with my
Jordan (20:39):
And I spoke with my
sister.
I kept texting people like, whenshould I go back?
And my sister was like, dude, Iwent from one centimeter to
eight in like, ten minutes.
Lindsay (20:48):
you went fast.
Jordan (20:49):
then I was like, shit,
uh, I
Lindsay (20:50):
Yeah.
So then you probably just timedyour contractions at that point.
Did you call when you went backor did you show up
Jordan (20:57):
I called.
Yeah, I called the second timebecause I was like, I don't know
what to do.
Lindsay (21:01):
Are they going to send
me home again?
Jordan (21:03):
I don't, I still don't
want Pitocin.
I still feel like I got this.
Lindsay (21:06):
I got this.
Jordan (21:07):
but I like, you know, I
also don't want to like have my
kid in the car on the way to thehospital.
And they were like, if you, ifyou feel, if it feels that
strong, you may as well comeback if you want to be here for
it.
And I was like, okay, cool.
So we head back, we hightailback to the hospital.
This time I was really bummed Iforgot my pillow.
Lindsay (21:24):
pillow.
Aww.
Jordan (21:26):
Luckily my sister
brought it for me later in the
night before I, like, tried toget some rest.
I mean, sleep is a stretch.
Lindsay (21:32):
that lady at the front
desk was like, okay.
You're back, and yeah,
Jordan (21:36):
back.
Let's get you in your actualroom now.
Lindsay (21:39):
That's hilarious.
Jordan (21:40):
I go back into the room.
I had eaten a little bit.
Yeah, I kind of bounced on theball that this is when they got
me the ball.
And I had a room that had abathtub that I thought I would
use, but I didn't want it.
Like, I didn't want to get inthe bath.
I didn't want to sit on thetoilet like I thought I would
want to.
I didn't
Lindsay (21:55):
Didn't seem comfy,
maybe?
I don't know.
Jordan (21:56):
was comfortable.
The only, and then, like, therewas no position where
contractions were comfortable.
So, like, when I felt one surge,sitting was really bad.
Laying was quite bad.
Standing was like
Lindsay (22:08):
bad.
Jordan (22:08):
So I just like would
kind of hurry and stand up and
yeah, I was all over the placeand you know I remember just
like crying a bunch and it wasjust all like feeling like a lot
Lindsay (22:20):
all that?
Jordan (22:21):
so yeah, I think I
maintained a sense of calm
throughout the whole thing butum was definitely not comfy
Lindsay (22:28):
Yeah, I would assume
you're like putting the word
epidural in your head at this
Jordan (22:33):
Not yet.
Lindsay (22:33):
Really?
Good for you.
Oh.
I
Jordan (22:35):
I mean, is it good?
I don't know.
Yeah,
Lindsay (22:38):
Well, I mean you're
powering through and you're
talking, you're breathingthrough it and you're talking
your way through it and all theuncomfortableness and like.
Jordan (22:44):
And this was for me,
this was like worse than the
pushing part.
Yeah, there's just somethingabout like, not quite, like when
you're, I feel like when you're,when you get to the pushing
stage you actually havesomething that you're actively
doing, and you have like apurpose, and you have
Lindsay (22:58):
have, like,
Jordan (22:59):
you know, like an action
to take, and this is just like a
waiting game, and it took sofucking long for me that like
this part was kind of gruelingand pretty torturous, but yeah,
no, I didn't think about takingan epidural, By the time, like,
12 o'clock hit again, so we'relike, hour almost like 23 ish,
hour 23, 24, happened, they werelike, okay, we're going to go
(23:22):
ahead and, Break your membranesand see if we can get any like
progress because I was I wasconsistently like dilating more
and more every time They checkedme.
I had dilated more.
So no one was like she's not inlabor.
I was like thousand percent Iwas definitely in labor I was
dilated to like a seven or eightat this point But that for some
reason that just wasn't likeenough to get things going.
(23:43):
And I finally was like, I don'twant I still don't want Pitocin
I still hadn't had anymedication, but I am okay with
you breaking my membrane And sothey came in, broke the
membranes, and they were like,everything should be happening
pretty soon.
I'm like, okay, this is going tobe interesting.
Um, let's go.
And then they're like, try andget some rest for now, because
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you're not feeling the urge topush yet.
So I kind of tried to get somerest.
Come like 3 a.
m.
is when I finally was miserableenough, because I think part of
it was like, my husband was kindof falling asleep next to me, so
I was sort of like losing that.
Lindsay (24:14):
Like, support in the
middle of the night, or like,
Jordan (24:16):
and like just so going
so long with the same like every
couple minutes like gnarly surgecontractions and I just couldn't
be comfortable in bed and Iwanted my husband to be able to
rest too,
Lindsay (24:27):
Yeah, of
Jordan (24:27):
obviously we both are
going to need it.
So finally at like 3 a.
m.
they offered an epidural again.
And I was like, yeah, okay, gofor it.
And this part I felt reallyscared about, but luckily the
girl who gave me the epiduralwas awesome.
I get nervous about newmedication in my body.
Lindsay (24:43):
it.
Yeah.
Jordan (24:43):
like when you don't know
how you're going to respond to
it.
And that was the point when Iwas like the most anxious
actually was getting theepidural, which is odd.
Lindsay (24:50):
gave me the epidural,
In retrospect.
Uh she
Jordan (24:54):
gave me the epidural.
Lindsay (24:56):
And then like, legs go
numb.
Jordan (24:58):
Yes, which was so weird.
Lindsay (25:01):
It's like how heavy
they still, they feel even
though they're numb.
Jordan (25:04):
The weirdest part for me
was
Lindsay (25:05):
even turn.
Jordan (25:06):
like, fart.
Like anytime I had to like passgas, I could be like more
ladylike.
It felt like I was literallypooing myself and had like no
control.
It was so bizarre.
I remember being so weirded outby that.
Yeah, that was crazy.
Anyway, so membranes are broken,epidurals in, it's like four or
5am at this point.
(25:27):
They take my temperature and Iwas high so then they had to
give me some
Lindsay (25:30):
they had to give me
some
Jordan (25:31):
Which was the first kind
of bummer for me, I was like, I
don't want to do antibioticsright now, jeez, they don't, I
don't sit well with antibiotics,they make me not
Lindsay (25:39):
Well then you gotta
work on your gut biome all over
Jordan (25:41):
Yeah, true, yeah, so
anyway, I was like, fine, you
know, I trust, I trust you all,like, go for it, give me the
antibiotics.
They give me the antibiotics,the morning comes and goes,
well, not really, it was 10am,10am is when I started feeling
like I needed to
Lindsay (25:56):
a.
Jordan (25:56):
And I told them, I was
like, Hey, I've been feeling the
urge to push.
And I kind of had been feelingit for like a little bit.
Lindsay (26:01):
been feeling it for
like a little bit.
I
Jordan (26:04):
I don't know what it
was.
It was feel, felt almostentirely mental to me.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I'm like, okay, I think Ineed to push.
And they were like, okay, okay,great.
And they go grab the doctor.
They come in, they seteverything up.
I got like, had like a peanutball, which was like, part of my
plan was to like do knees andcalves out sort of pushing.
It was all wild ride.
My husband was really great andsupportive and like holding my
(26:26):
leg while I pushed.
I pushed for three hours.
I pushed for three
Lindsay (26:30):
insane.
How many pushes an hour did youdo?
Jordan (26:33):
was doing one ivory
contraction.
Lindsay (26:36):
every contraction.
Yeah.
I
Jordan (26:38):
I was doing one every
contraction, but I did take a
couple little breaks becausewhat happened is my kid was,
facing the wrong way, so shewasn't breech, she was face
Lindsay (26:48):
need to
Jordan (26:49):
and babies need to be
face down to come out,
Lindsay (26:52):
they ask you if they
could
Jordan (26:54):
Yes, and I was like,
yeah, do whatever you need to
do.
So the doctor's freaking armdeep in my uterus, like his hand
is inside of my uterus.
My husband's like, they're
Lindsay (27:04):
I've never seen
Jordan (27:04):
got his forearm in my
wife.
Um, so he, and he got her tospin a couple of times.
So like he'd spin her and thenwe'd push again for like 40
minutes.
Lindsay (27:13):
impressive.
And
Jordan (27:14):
she wouldn't make that
much progress, so then he'd go
back and he'd be like, Oh, she'sfaced, she's faced up again,
spin her again.
But she just kept spinning backaround.
So we kept thinking, it's allgood, we'll get her out doing
this eventually.
And we just kept trying andtrying and
Lindsay (27:28):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Three hours.
Jordan (27:31):
Three hours of this,
yeah.
Finally, I just got too
Lindsay (27:34):
And you were just like,
I'm exhausted.
I can't push anymore.
Did you call
Jordan (27:38):
I didn't.
But I think everyone around mewas like, this girl's I hadn't
slept in, at this point, it'slike a day and a half of no
Lindsay (27:46):
Yeah.
They probably
Jordan (27:47):
like two days of no
sleep, like two and a half days
of no sleep, because I hadn'tslept since the night before the
night I had gone into thehospital.
It was crazy, yeah, so, theywere like, you need to try and
get some rest.
We're gonna go talk about ouroptions, so me and my husband
are just sitting in the roomlike, This sucks.
They came back with a list ofoptions for me and the options
were these.
Keep trying to push but useforceps.
Lindsay (28:10):
Mm
Jordan (28:10):
or C section.
Lindsay (28:12):
That's,
Jordan (28:13):
That's, that's it.
And the forceps option, when thenurse and the doctor were
explaining it to me, they werelike, so we can keep trying for
vaginal delivery and we can useforceps.
The issue with forceps is thatthe likelihood that yeah,
you're, you're going to get atear between your vagina and
your colon is Very
Lindsay (28:31):
And you don't want that
Jordan (28:32):
And that is a surgery
that you can't really fully
recover from.
Like, those tissues just neverquite go back to normal so
you're gonna be like, you know,having problems defecating later
in life and all sorts of issues.
And I was like, Oh God, thatdoes not sound good.
That sounds like a gnarlyrecovery.
Lindsay (28:49):
So when you're like,
there's one other option, how
were you trying to be okay andaccept
Jordan (28:56):
I didn't at first.
I fully didn't accept it.
I didn't want a C section.
Nobody like wants a C section.
So I was like, shit, well, Ikind of don't know what to do.
So at this point I texted mysister.
I texted you.
and Lindsay was my bestresource.
She said
Lindsay (29:12):
So, FYI, I work in the
setting.
Yes.
And I have delivered babies viac section in the hundreds.
So yes, you, you text me andyou're like, what's up?
Jordan (29:25):
Yeah, like, which option
do I choose?
Basically.
Do you remember what you said?
Lindsay (29:29):
Yeah, I said, okay,
here, you're somewhere safe.
I don't, I hope this is okay tosay.
I, I did suggest that you mightnot want your team
Jordan (29:39):
Yes, that's exactly what
you said.
Lindsay (29:41):
And, you know, your
team works really well under
stress, and they're willing todo whatever they can for you.
and for
Jordan (29:51):
made it very clear it
was my
Lindsay (29:52):
Yes, which is great and
wonderful, but there, there is
stressful moments with a team.
And like I said, we're trainedto work through them.
We're trained to work reallywell through them.
But one thing that is ideal isto not be stressed because one
thing can lead to another reallyquick and
Jordan (30:13):
Yeah, so yeah, exactly.
So yeah, what she said was, whatI remember the concise, like
text message version of this waslike, I would do whatever your
OB feels most comfortable with,
Lindsay (30:24):
really, here's the
thing, you really want that
person to be really good attheir job.
Jordan (30:28):
do near, you're
absolutely right.
Like, I don't want, if he's notgiven that many forcep
deliveries, like I don't wanthim to be fucking putting those
Lindsay (30:36):
Or you, or right, or
your colon could sit differently
in your body than anotherperson.
And like,
Jordan (30:41):
Yeah,
Lindsay (30:42):
just don't.
Jordan (30:43):
And I don't want it to
sit differently the rest of my
life from how it is.
So, I was like, I was reallytorn, in this moment.
And Lindsay's advice reallyhelped me because I, yeah, I was
able to put into perspectivelike, okay, these guys do this.
Literally every
Lindsay (30:57):
every day.
So
Jordan (30:58):
So they're very
comfortable, I can also become
very comfortable.
Lindsay (31:01):
sure you felt their
comfort
Jordan (31:02):
I did.
Lindsay (31:03):
went into that room.
Jordan (31:04):
Oh, a thousand times I
did.
Dude, I was so cozy going intothat OR, but anyway.
Before that, the other person Ispoke with was this epic nurse
that I had.
She was an older nurse, she
Lindsay (31:15):
They're the best.
Labor and delivery
Jordan (31:18):
So good.
She was so good.
She came into the room and waslike, you know, asking me how I
was feeling, could tell I wasfeeling exhausted and sad and
like, just like kind ofconfused.
And this is like the worst placeto be mentally when you're like
trying to make a really bigdecision like
Lindsay (31:36):
Yeah.
You know?
Jordan (31:37):
know?
And my husband was supersupportive and talking through
it with me as well.
And I asked her, I said, whatwould you, what would you do?
And she said, I had every singleone of my babies.
I don't remember if she had likethree or four babies, but it was
more than two.
was in the same situation thatyou're in.
And mine were all delivered withforceps, successfully.
however, the doctor whodelivered them was like, a
(32:00):
legend with forceps.
And he like, he was like amagician.
And I haven't seen anyone thatgood with forceps since then.
And honestly, girl, like,
Lindsay (32:11):
yeah,
Jordan (32:12):
The C section will be so
much easier to recover from than
a tear like
Lindsay (32:16):
that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jordan (32:17):
And her advice really,
yeah, I was just like
reiterating what you saidbasically.
And I was thinking aboutrecovery and I was like, okay,
yeah, that's fair.
So then they started prepping meand getting the paperwork done.
But when they came to do thepaperwork, there was another
woman OB, because the otherdoctor had to leave for a bit.
So this woman OB comes in andshe was like, Kind of just
(32:39):
wanted to feel for herself andshe felt my baby's head and was
like, Hmm, she's the right wayaround now.
And I had already like signedthe paperwork for this c
section.
They were like taking me out andI was like, Oh my god, so now a
ton of time has gone by.
It's like basically 1.
30pm now, about.
But she was like, Okay, well,let's get you going.
(33:01):
I And I was like, but she's,yeah, yeah, to go have a c
section.
And, and I was like, but she'sthe right way around?
Like, and you're gonna have mego back for a c section?
Like, I was so confused.
I was like, can't we keeptrying?
And my husband, I, I didn't havethe energy to advocate for
myself in this moment.
I felt broken, and tired, andlike, I, like, I felt like I had
(33:21):
to surrender to this doctor whodidn't, She was just going about
her work day, like she wasn'tvery
Lindsay (33:27):
busy.
They are so
Jordan (33:28):
Yeah,
Lindsay (33:29):
I can't even, like,
Obies, I swear, are the busiest
people in that hospital.
Jordan (33:33):
didn't give a f like, I,
like, I don't, like, I get it,
but she, I didn't feel like shereally gave a fuck about, like,
the experience I was having, butmy husband did, and in that
moment he, like, looked at me,and he said, if you want to keep
pushing,
Lindsay (33:45):
Push on your way there.
Push right now on your waythere.
I
Jordan (33:48):
Well, he said just,
like, you can keep pushing.
And, like, he really, like,really, really advocated for me
in that moment.
And, like, just brought all mystrength back.
Which was so awesome.
Lindsay (33:58):
was
Jordan (33:59):
Ugh, I could cry.
Anyway, so then, I was like,Yeah, I want to keep pushing and
then the the team was like, okaylike that, you know They were
respectful and like they she'slike, all right Well, you got to
push really fucking hard told mehow to push and it was like, you
know in a way That's differentto what I had been practicing
Which was like a little bitannoying But I did my best,
dude.
(34:19):
I like really animaled out forthis last little bit.
Like I was trying so hard and Iwas so tanked.
I, yeah, like can't, you can'timagine this level of exhaustion
or this level of effort
Lindsay (34:33):
level of effort.
And
Jordan (34:34):
And the nurse, like kind
of after like 45 minutes of
that, she's like, you need to,you need to rest.
And then the doctor left and shewas like, I don't think your
baby spun back around.
I think she's still face up.
Lindsay (34:47):
said that to
Jordan (34:48):
The nurse said that to
me.
She's like, I've done this a lotof times, and I know, like, that
the, you know, the doctor'ssaying what she's saying.
I don't think she's, I don't, Ipersonally,
Lindsay (34:55):
don't think,
personally, like,
Jordan (34:57):
yeah.
And it was that same nurse, andI was like, okay, and she's
like, I'm gonna get you anultrasound machine.
And I'm going to give you anultrasound, and we'll just
double check, because if youwant to keep pushing, and she's
right, the right way around,then you can keep pushing.
And I'm so defeated in thismoment, I'm like basically
sleeping.
Lindsay (35:14):
You like prove
Jordan (35:15):
Yeah, so she's, so she,
this angel brought this
ultrasound machine in, showed methat my baby was in fact, still
the wrong way
Lindsay (35:22):
Yeah.
And you're like, okay, let's go.
Jordan (35:24):
And at that point I knew
so like that was the one thing
that allowed me to be congruentwith the decision to go into the
OR when I wasn't ready
Lindsay (35:31):
Yeah.
Jordan (35:32):
You know I hadn't
exhausted all my effort just yet
so like I'm so grateful that shedid that for me because in that
moment nothing
Lindsay (35:40):
felt more
Jordan (35:41):
felt more right than
being taken into the OR and and
that like it's so weird.
Lindsay (35:47):
is so weird because
you, we all have these plans, A,
B, C, whatever.
And you didn't have that on yourplans.
Jordan (35:56):
at all! Like, not at
Lindsay (35:58):
then, and then you felt
so right to make that decision.
Jordan (36:01):
Yes, even in that moment
of like, abso And it was thanks
to my husband who was able tolike, Advocate for me when I
didn't have it for
Lindsay (36:09):
thanks to that
Jordan (36:10):
And thanks to that nurse
who was able to like show me
because I think she could seethat I was going to do
everything I could to avoid a Csection.
Lindsay (36:16):
section.
She
Jordan (36:17):
And she like was caring
Lindsay (36:18):
moment in
Jordan (36:19):
moment in a way that I
couldn't, I didn't know how to
care for myself.
You know what I mean?
Lindsay (36:23):
what
Jordan (36:24):
Which is so cool.
Anyway, so my husband got suitedup in his little outfit and he
was way more nervous than me.
When we got into the OR, I wasthe moment that nurse like told
me that, a calm washed over me.
Lindsay (36:36):
Yeah, and everyone was
set up, ready.
Everyone
Jordan (36:38):
was ready to go.
They had a song that I likedplaying.
It was like the weekend orsomething.
Everyone was happy.
It was like, I, I know ORs areprobably really intimidating for
people who don't work in themlike you do, but.
It was, it felt like
Lindsay (36:52):
yeah, there are so many
that are like, Woo, let's have a
baby,
Jordan (36:55):
it was so cool.
And they laid me on the table.
They didn't strap my arms down.
Lindsay had advised me to getsome anti nausea medicine, which
was like clutch.
Lindsay (37:04):
cause they'll, uh,
they'll pound on
Jordan (37:06):
Oh boy, that was wild.
I won't go into the full detailof like, what the c section
experience was like, but just beready for like, the weirdest.
I was like, this feels like whatI would imagine what happens to
your body when you're like,abducted by aliens
Lindsay (37:20):
You're a fash yeah.
Jordan (37:22):
explored.
This is, it is so fucking weird.
Lindsay (37:26):
Yeah, I'm glad you, I'm
glad you did get that.
Cause that can send people.
Jordan (37:31):
Dude, it sent me, I
mean, it sent me even with the,
it was intense.
It was so intense, but it was socool.
So they, the doctor had to like,pry my kid's head out of my
pelvic bone because I had beenpushing for so long.
So unfortunately,
Lindsay (37:46):
She had a
Jordan (37:46):
the c section, she still
had a little, it wasn't super
coney like the shape, but shedefinitely, her head was like
beat up
Lindsay (37:52):
up.
Bruised and
Jordan (37:53):
Yeah, which was sad.
And she had had some meconium inthe, somewhere,
Lindsay (37:57):
Yeah, yeah.
I
Jordan (37:59):
remember.
But so there was like a, youknow, the respiratory team was
there, they took her out of theroom straight away.
And the feeling that when theypull your baby out of your
abdomen like that, Oh, it's soweird.
It's so.
Weird.
It's so weird.
Wow.
Lindsay (38:15):
Yeah.
I can't even
Jordan (38:16):
like taking
psychedelics.
Like
Lindsay (38:18):
Like, you don't
Jordan (38:19):
you don't know what it's
like till you've tried it.
I can't even try.
Lindsay (38:22):
Right.
Jordan (38:23):
Um, I say they took her
out.
I heard her crying.
That was really comforting.
I still felt great.
Like I was ready.
I was ready to be with her, butI was like calm.
I was
Lindsay (38:33):
I was
Jordan (38:34):
She was gone for quite a
while, but then my husband
brought her back and he walkedkind of like around the
Lindsay (38:39):
walked around holding
Jordan (38:41):
Yeah, he walked around
holding her and I just remember
this like
Lindsay (38:44):
have that
Jordan (38:45):
brought her next to me
and yeah, and I totally just got
to have that surge of like,yeah, absolute like Bliss isn't
the right word and like joy isnot the right word.
It's just this expansivenessthat's like hard to describe.
Lindsay (39:01):
crazy.
So,
Jordan (39:02):
Yeah, it's crazy.
So yeah, I got to have that.
I didn't get to hold her yet,but like I felt her skin, like
her little cheek on mine and,and Adrian was stoked and we had
some pictures taken and yeah,such a good moment.
And then they took her down tolike do some more, whatever they
do just to check, make surenothing's like going on with her
respiratory system andeverything.
(39:23):
And he got to go down with themand like watch the team, like
work with her while they closedme up and then put
Lindsay (39:28):
what a really cool
experience for him.
Jordan (39:30):
it was.
I think it, yeah, I
Lindsay (39:31):
And so then you were
probably reunited with her in
the room or did they bring
Jordan (39:36):
Yeah, yeah, I was
reunited in the room.
It took a little while.
And by the time they brought herin, I was like, definitely
starting to lose that patience.
Like, I was just really anxiousto, like, actually meet her and
hold her.
Lindsay (39:46):
to
Jordan (39:46):
and I was also so tired.
I was so tired that this momentis so hazy in my mind, but it's
like this glowy little haze.
so yeah, a nurse brought her inand was like trying to tell me
some breastfeeding things likeright away.
Cause I guess they wanted me tobreastfeed her obviously.
But like, I was like, shut upand give me my child.
Like, I don't care what I, like,will not listen to any of the
words
Lindsay (40:06):
it goes over your head.
Jordan (40:07):
in your arms and she's
about to be
Lindsay (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think
that you're right.
Like the information overload.
It's a little much and you're,
Jordan (40:16):
I mean, what else are
you going to do though when
you're
Lindsay (40:17):
They have to do it, but
Jordan (40:19):
to have to be like, now
you want to put her on your, you
know, your
Lindsay (40:22):
yeah, it's just too
much like more work.
You're like, well,
Jordan (40:25):
yeah, I mean, but that
is what I wanted to do
Lindsay (40:27):
yes,
Jordan (40:28):
was just like, let me do
this.
I didn't feel like I needed tobe told
Lindsay (40:30):
needed to be
Jordan (40:32):
and yeah.
And luckily, yeah, it all workedout really nicely.
They transferred me down at thispoint It's like she was born
around like 3 30.
I think 3 39 was when they endedup
Lindsay (40:42):
falling asleep.
I did.
It wasn't hard for me.
I've
Jordan (40:45):
Did Wasn't hard for me
dude.
I hadn't slept since like ThereI went to was it two full nights
without sleep.
Yeah, two full nights withoutsleep.
So I was like
Lindsay (40:54):
any sleep.
I
Jordan (40:56):
Like, without any sleep.
I was so tired.
And all that pushing, like,dude, I was so
Lindsay (41:02):
And
Jordan (41:03):
So I actually did sleep
pretty well, and she slept
pretty well.
We had her in the room with us,and we stayed in the hospital
for a few beautiful, beautifuldays.
And everything was, everythingwas all good, you know?
Healed up, and
Lindsay (41:14):
and You guys, you guys
knew the name before going in?
Jordan (41:19):
No.
Lindsay (41:20):
okay.
At all?
Was it on the list?
Jordan (41:24):
was on the list, but we
didn't put that name on a piece
of paper until the day we leftthe hospital.
It was like three days later.
Lindsay (41:30):
That's hilarious.
Did you just call her of all thenames and just We called her
Baby.
Okay.
And then just figure it out.
Okay, that is for sure it.
Good.
That's really
Jordan (41:41):
we struggle with naming
kids you guys.
It's, it's uh, it's tough.
I always tell people it's thehardest part of having a
Lindsay (41:47):
I think it is.
Jordan (41:48):
that whole story I just
told you, I still think that
way.
Lindsay (41:51):
Yeah, you'll have like
a list going for a while.
You know, whatever.
And then all of a sudden you goback to it and you're like, I
hate that name.
You know,
Jordan (41:58):
it's so weird and
stupid.
Lindsay (42:00):
Yeah, our, our name was
like last minute.
Jordan (42:03):
Yeah, yeah, I remember
being like, wait, what?
I didn't even hear you say thatname.
Lindsay (42:09):
Yeah.
Jordan (42:10):
That's
Lindsay (42:10):
Oh, what a fun, crazy.
Yes.
Jordan (42:14):
Yes, yeah, and so the
moral of the story is like
Lindsay (42:18):
Have all your plans.
Let's see what, see whathappens.
Yeah.
See what happens.
Jordan (42:23):
and my hope for everyone
who has ever had a baby or who
will ever have a baby is thatyou're able to like, make peace
with the way.
You had it, because it's like abeautiful part of your story no
matter what it looks like.
Lindsay (42:36):
Yeah.
Jordan (42:37):
I was just, yeah, so
grateful, yeah, I mean, I was
really grateful at the end
Lindsay (42:41):
really grateful.
Yeah, it is, yeah, like oncethey're in your arms and they're
here and they're healthy, it'sjust like the most amazing
thing.
Jordan (42:49):
I did have a lot of
tears, looking back on the
moment when I, Felt so happy inthe, in like the hospital room
looking over at the diaper andthe hat.
That was like the moment that Ihad to mourn the most.
so it'll be like something weirdand random for you maybe that
you don't expect that creates alittle bit of like tension in
your system.
But, yeah, I, the more time goeson the less important.
(43:14):
The, the method behind thatstory becomes, and the more
important the bond that I havewith my kid bec Like, she is
Lindsay (43:21):
Right.
Exactly.
Jordan (43:22):
exists in the world
because of that.
So, it's great.
Yeah.
Anyway, thanks for listeningeverybody, that went long.
Lindsay (43:31):
Birth stories are
worthy, you know, how many, no
matter how many minutes.
Jordan (43:34):
so you'll hear one more
from me at some point down the
road.
And, um, yeah.
Lindsay (43:39):
I feel like not too
long.
I mean, yeah,
Jordan (43:42):
It won't be, it'll come
quick.
I think it's gonna come quick.
I gotta, I gotta think of names.
Lindsay (43:47):
I gotta, I gotta think
Jordan (43:49):
cool.
Yeah, well thank you.
Lindsay (43:50):
Cool.
Awesome.
Jordan (43:51):
you like this little
piece of bonus
Lindsay (43:53):
like this little
content.
Yeah.
Uh, we'll be looking forwardLindsay.
Yeah.
Up next.
Bye.
Jordan (44:01):
Good night.
Lindsay (44:02):
Good night.