Burn After Reading

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What happens when ordinary people mistakenly believe they're caught in an international espionage thriller? The Coen Brothers' "Burn After Reading" answers this question with darkly hilarious results.

A stellar ensemble cast including Frances McDormand, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, John Malkovich, and Tilda Swinton bring to life some of the most delightfully idiotic characters ever put to film. 

Whether you're a long-time Coen Brothers fan or new to their unique brand of dark humor, "Burn After Reading" offers a wickedly entertaining look at human folly, paranoia, and the chaos that ensues when everyone thinks they're smarter than they actually are. Watch it, laugh, and remember: sometimes there's no point at all. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast where every week,we recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason, you are apart of a league of morons.
Oh, yes, you see, you're one ofthe morons.
I've been fighting my wholelife, my whole fucking life.
But guess what?
Today I win, because this weekwe recommend Burn.

(00:23):
After Reading.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
You think that's a schwin?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, john Malkovich, as Osborne Cox is saying what
we all think today.
Yes, it's just like we fightthat battle every day day.
I was literally at workyesterday and it was just.
I didn't watch this until todayand I was thinking I was like,
man, this is exactly what I wasthinking yesterday.
I was just at work, I'msurrounded by a league of morons

(00:56):
yes, I feel like I'm takingcrazy pills not you or trisha or
anything, just like everythingelse yes, so did you enjoy the
film?
Have you ever seen?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
it before.
No, I never saw it, never seenit before.
It was amazing.
Good, such a fun time watchingit.
Although my I was watching itand my daughter oldest daughter
comes in during the scene whereHarry shows off his surprise to
Linda, she goes oh my dad, whatare you watching?
Don't worry, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
George Clooney his surprise to Linda.
She goes oh my Dad, what areyou watching?
Don't worry, it's GeorgeClooney, nothing's going to
happen here.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's okay, it's a surprise for his wife.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, or whoever he decides to have in the basement.
He definitely used it on Lindaright, and then he was going to
use it on his wife.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, isn't that weird, yeah, I mean, and the
thought that his wife wouldreally enjoy that.
Yeah, it's a surprise.
Yeah, I mean.
Maybe I don't know, I feel likethe like what he works really
hard on it and it.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You know it's funny, I watched it.
So I watched this the firsttime, maybe like my senior year
of high school.
It was in florida.
This I was like I was hangingout with this dude that came
along with the journey or thetrip and he was supposed to be
like oh yeah, the two kids cankind of hang out.
Was he CIA?
Was he NIS?
No, just didn't really haveanything in common with this guy

(02:17):
and did not want to do anythinghe wanted to do, so like, let's
get a movie.
He did not like this movie.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I thought it was great who are you if you're out
there listening?
Who are?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
you.
Well, it seems like from goingonline and I was just kind of
reading up what people aresaying about this movie and a
lot of them were like is thismovie supposed to be good?
And I was like, yeah, dude,yeah, I think it's a movie that
gets better every time you watchit, because the first time I
watched it I liked it, but Ididn't like love it, and now

(02:48):
when I watch it, I'm just likeBrad Pitt in the kitchen.
That's stupid dance.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's so great.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
But this is just such a classic Coen Brothers movie
Average people gettingthemselves into really stupid
situations over money.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I feel like they're, as George Clooney said.
When he asked about what thismovie was about, he said they're
shockingly dumb people.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, well Doing shockingly dumb things.
I guess what I mean average isjust, you know, simple people.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I don't know, I feel like I'm a simpleton.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Average for today's people?
I guess, I don't know.
I feel like I'm a simpleton.
Average for today's people, Iguess, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
There's people like this always.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
But it's just, you know people getting in trouble
because of money.
We've done Big Lebowski, thedude just kind of a dummy
getting in trouble because hewants some money.
Fargo bunch of dumb idiotsgetting into money, getting into
trouble with money.
No Country for Old Men bunch ofdumb idiots getting into money,
getting into trouble with money.
No country for old men.
Yep, I will say, uh, brolin'scharacter isn't dumb, but it's

(03:50):
just, you know, just some likecountry folk getting some money
and you got burned after readingjust some dummies getting money
.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Everybody thinks money's gonna solve everything
yeah.
But in order to get that, youhave to kill.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, which I mean it's weird because when I think
about the coen brothers I'm like, yeah, they have their hand on
the pulse of america.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's just people trying to get money any way that
they can and that's what allhis, their movies, all the way
down my pants yeah, oh, they'veit's.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
They got me.
There's two brothers, there'sit's two people, and they got
all four hands in there.
They only needed one too, so Idon't know where the other three
are.
So let's talk about theperformances a little bit Kind
of five-star performances allthe way through.
Oh yeah, probably the funniestPitt's ever been.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
He's so stupid God he's so stupid and his stupid
haircut or his hair color.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
It is great I read that one of the costume
designers for this movie isactually pretty tough because we
tried to make Brad Pitt lookkind of dumb and normal.
But everything we put him in hewas just so good looking, oh
man.
And when they went they weresupposed to put him in a suit
the suit for when he's going tobe Mr Black.
Yeah, osport, they put him in anormal suit.

(05:03):
They're like Jesus Christ.
There's no way.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
This guy's way too handsome Throw, some shoulder
pads on there.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
They made this suit one size too big.
They seamed it to where itcompletely didn't fit him right
and then they gave him a wooltie.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
and they're still like still kind of too
attractive, but this is all wecan do.
I also heard that his hair wasmessed up because of a
commercial that he was doing.
Yeah, and they dyed it allstupid.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
And they're like this is perfect.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
They did.
They actually also filmed thismovie in New York, so they could
get George Clooney in the moviebecause he was filming another
movie at the same time.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So they were just like we have to film in New York
.
I wonder what he was filming.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I can't remember I should have looked it up, but I
should have looked it up.
But I think Pitt's performanceis great.
I think my favorite isMalkovich, though he's so good
at yelling, he's so fuckingpissed, he's so easily pissed
off, it's great.
And then, oh, they were justlike hey, george, you remember
what you're doing?
Oh brother, where are thou?
What if you did this?

(06:01):
But a little bit more quirks.
This is like constantly talkabout how you might have
something.
Yeah, he gets it wrong everytime.
It says he's just such a liarhe doesn't even know what to lie
about anymore.
He's just throwing out whateverhe can have an issue with.
It's like I'm lactoseintolerant.
It's like okay, next thing Ihave a show it's like.
Which is it?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
no, he said acid reflux too.
Yeah, he said, I've got lactosereflux too.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, he said I've got lactose reflux or something.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it's like why?
Just because.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Then you have Frances McDormand doing a essentially
the city version of her Fargocharacter.
Yeah, she's so good.
Yeah, I love her when she justputs on that northern accent.
It's just charming.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I don't know, something about her teeth just
makes it all work.
Yeah, because she's got a greatsmile.
But I don't know, I'll justlove her.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's weird.
I was about to say I thought ofsomething really weird to say,
I'll just say it.
It's like she's man yeah,totally date Frances McDormand.
Or hey, you want to be my mom?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's like it goes, either way.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Guess that might be a complex.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I should work out, just kidding, she'd probably be
a great mom.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, linda, be our mom yeah, so we've done four.
This is our fourth Coen brothermovie.
So which one do you prefer outof them?
Big Coen brother movie?
So which one do you prefer outof them Big Lebowski, fargo, no
Country or Burn.
After Reading.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
I don't know.
I feel like they're all likevery different, very different,
yes, why?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
can't you just have them all different and same?
But because I put down in mylittle notes, make Jason pick
one of the four movies.
I think it all completelydepends on your mood, right?
Yeah, like if you're going toget high, big Lebowski, if it's
like winter, fargo, or if it'slike summer and you're just like
I want to feel cold, yes, noCountry for Old Men, that's like

(07:51):
.
If you're just kind of feelingwesterny, for sure, like western
noir, burn After Reading, ifyou just want like pretty much
just laughs.
Yeah, if I just wanted to laughand also be in some cozy ass
homes.
I liked everybody's houses.
I was like, oh, these are greatapartments.
They're like kind of bare on alot of them, but all the houses
were nice.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, loved it.
They were decorated.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I always when you walk into someone's house if
they got a picture of a gun likean old gun in their bathroom.
I kind of like I'll come.
You like pictures of old gunsin bathrooms.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I don't know it's so weird, but like whenever you see
it, you're like man.
It's kind of nice.
And it's usually like a pictureof a quail or something.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah or some shit.
There's always some bird in abathroom.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I was like why it's like that's there's always a
bird in my bathroom.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I guess when you're taking a poop you're like man.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I bird fly anywhere sometimes my bird will fly into
the shower.
When I'm in the shower, what?
I just leave that thing out, uh, flying around.
So you've cats, madeline.
Yeah, they jump at it, uh, buthe can fly.
So it's a battle of wits, yeah,but like it's constant
everything.
Sometimes he'll jump, he'll flyinto the shower and squawk at

(09:00):
me and scare the shit out of me.
Get out of here.
This is mine and you like tryto get him to take a bath.
And he's like not having it.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
He's like no so let's hop in his facts, man yay,
facts I love facts.
The coen brothers, joel andethan coen, said they wrote the
screenplay for this film whilewriting the screenplay for no
country for old men.
They would usually alternateevery day between writing how do
you like put yours, how do youfocus?
They're just like well, we'rekind of let's just do this
similar movie, but like lessassassins in one and well,

(09:33):
there's also assassins in theother, kind of because everybody
thinks everybody's a spy in it,which is just so good.
Um, yeah, I don't know, it'sweird, I guess they're.
They're like oh man, we'retired of being so dark in this
other one.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Let's make funny dark stuff.
Let's be happy today.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
We'll be sad tomorrow .
And for the poster for thefictional film Coming Up Daisies
states that it is based on abook by Cormac McCarthy, the guy
that wrote no Country for OldMen, and the poster also shows
that the fictional Daisy filmwas directed by Sam Raimiy, a

(10:08):
friend and clapper clapper ofthe coen's, who did evil dead.
I love how linda always takesher new boyfriends it's her way
of determining if someone's agood fit for her.
Because that first guy wasterrible.
It's like, yeah, why'd you takehim home?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I know when they she was scrolling and you see the
guy with the big smile.
He's like, oh, that one.
And he's like, no, not that one, the weird guy.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
But yeah, it's like you mean the guy that looks like
he's probably on a listsomewhere.
Yeah, yeah, that one soterrible.
So on the criterion blu-ray ofblood simple.
In the shooting blood simplefeature at with Barry Sonnenfeld
, joe Cohen, ethan Cohenrevealed the idea for the sex
chair.
Chair built by Harry was takendirectly from the key grip on

(10:53):
their film, who built a verysimilar device in real life and
cited the exact same reasons asfor Harry, at same reasons as
Harry for its creation.
So the fact that they wanted tobuy that chair but it's too
expensive, so he just made ithimself.
Yeah, that's crafty.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So there's somebody they worked with.
I love that when he was likeI'm just, I just don't have the
setup for molding hard rubber.
Yeah, Not yet.
I'll get there though.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I'll have all the dildos there needs to be.
Oh my God, I guess you justlike sit there and just watch
your wife.
Just, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, you sit in the cuck chair that's next to it.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh, gotcha, and that also has a.
I'm just thinking will he bringthis upstairs?
Do you just do?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
this.
I'm pretty sure it's stayingdown in the basement.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
It's a lot of hard work you got to go into that.
Looks like the cake.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Like he's.
He's just gonna cage people inthere, force them to ride that
chair.
So what it?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
looks you go down there.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
It looks like a creepy ass basement because it
kind of was like a workshop, asex workshop yeah, have you ever
felt that someone was followingyou do?
You ever get that feeling?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I'm pretty sure I've been paranoid before this makes
this movie makes me want toconstantly look behind my
windows Though I kind of do likein my rear view, but I kind of
do anyways ever since I gotfollowed from Cookout in
Murfreesboro to my apartment andthen was robbed.
That's horrifying, so I do, Iguess, kind of do that.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Especially when I pull into.
So somebody picked you out of acrowd and said I'm going to rob
that rich guy right there.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I think they were just waiting for someone to pull
into the student quarters thingand I knew they were following
me.
I was like this is weird thatthey keep, because I was making
weird turns, because I wasavoiding someone that was
outside.
So I took like a weird routeand I was like this is weird.
But I was like didn't thinkanything of it, I was like I'll
park it.
And then I was walking up andhe's like hey, give me your
money.
Had everything on my littlecookout plate my phone, my

(12:44):
wallet.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
What would have happened if you just kept
driving and driving?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think maybe he would have gotbored.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I think they'd probably be like he knows, let's
go, he or she knows, didn'teven react.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
My school had the.
We were having problems withpeople getting robbed like that.
People were following girlsinto the parking garage, and so
they had to install these allthese like emergency phone
booths.
Oh nice, Like you just hit abutton and it calls the police.
Oh cool yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I mean terrible, yeah , yeah.
Sadly they had to have that,but it's good for them.
Cool idea though.
All right, you ready to hop inthe plot, but before we do, ooh,
it's time for me to almoststart the plot and then remember
we have a category I have toexplain, because I've done it
every damn time.
We've started the category.
I want you to think, whileyou're at home listening to this

(13:33):
, at work, driving whatever tothink of the point of this movie
.
There definitely is one, and Ifeel like John Malkovich and
what's his name?
The CIA guy JK Simmons.
Simmons definitely has thepoint of the movie, but we'll
see, let's find out and let usknow what you think in our email
.
Ah yes, our link in thedescription.

(13:57):
Oh, that's a man that's aboutto drink a burr.
There's no way I could drink abeer before doing this, like I'd
burp so much I'd be like thisgonna be annoying too, bro, yeah
, yeah, you definitely.
Uh, you hold in your burpspretty good, I don't really have
the purple yeah, that's truethat must be lucky I have to
burp so much and I can burp soloud, that I just made it a part

(14:18):
of my personality.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
You've got that lactose reflux.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Dakota.
It was either him or hisgirlfriend, lashawn burped, and
it just brought like a tear tomy eye that the last time I saw
him they're like oh man, lashawnburped so well.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I thought of you, jesse, and I was like hell, yeah
, how do you burp well or unwell, well, it's just like a crappy
burp I mean what makes it crappyLoudness and length.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
This is going to be my whole day and I have the
ability to burp and continuetalking at the same time like
it's nothing.
And it's so funny.
Man, that is funny.
Oh, I enjoy me, we all do.
Oh, Jason, All right, let's hopinto the plot.
Now that everybody loves me,Everybody listen to the podcast.

(15:08):
We actually prefer Jason.
No, I can't.
Who do you prefer?
Let us know in the link in thedescription and then we'll fight
, Get death.
So the movie we start off inouter space Bum, bum, bum and
we're slowly zooming in Likefrom the eyes of, like a
satellite, essentially.
Then we zoom in to the CIAheadquarters.

(15:31):
Faced with a demotion at workdue to a drinking problem,
Osborne Cox, played by JohnMalkovich, angrily quits his job
as a CIA analyst.
Palmer, with all due respect,what the fuck are you talking
about?
They're like, you have adrinking problem.
You're terrible at work.
I have a drinking problem.
Fuck you, Peck.

(15:51):
You're a Mormon Next to you.
We all have a drinking problem,that's true.
I mean they started this movieoff perfect.
They're just like, let JohnMalkovich yell.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's kind of interesting that we start off in
space because, as as the person, the viewer, yeah, we have all
the information that none ofthese characters do.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, and that's kind of why it's funny yeah, yeah,
exactly, it's like yeah we'rethe, the satellite in the sky,
seeing people just digthemselves in holes.
It's like stop, please, for thelove of god, everybody, stop.
Have a sense of brain cells Idon't know, obviously I don't

(16:31):
have any, then I love he gets up.
This is a crucifixion.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
This is political it's a crucifixion.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
It turns out he's a low-level guy and like doesn't
even matter.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I know I love that and he thinks he's so important.
Yeah, he writes his memoir.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
And so he goes home.
He tries to tell his wife,katie, but she's upset he didn't
pick up cheese, motherfucker.
It's just like did you, did youget my, my message?
It's like no, I came home early.
It's like no, I came home early.
It's like well, did she tellyou?
It's like no, I'm here.
So you didn't get the message.
Obviously I didn't get themessage.
It's like I got somethingimportant to tell you.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I can't because I got to get the cheese.
Hey, that sucks, man.
One time I brought home raisincookies instead of chocolate
chip, like oatmeal raisin.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, and I be in big trouble in this house too.
I actually like oatmeal, fuckyou.
I love oatmeal raisin.
I like oatmeal chocolate chip.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I don't yeah, yeah, oatmeal raisins.
Why not meet in the middle?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
why not mash them together?
You know what?
Here's what I say about raisinsjust make, just keep them
grapes.
That's my big reveal about myopinion on raisins.
Stop squishing.
I've been taking all the goodparts out, well anyways.
So then we cut to a party.
We meet Harry and his wifeCan't remember her name and we

(17:54):
learn that they're essentiallyeverybody.
Harry and Katie are having anaffair with each other.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Everybody's fucking everybody.
And this is where we see Harry.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
He's like he's very, he's very eating in this movie.
He likes to eat Um, and he'salso a great eater.
Every time he eats I'm likeyou're so.
You're so quirky and nebbishyeah, it makes me get
anaphylactic.
Yeah.
And then we we cut to Osbornefinally telling Katie about
quitting.
He is going to write a memoir.
He goes to tell his unrest yeah, he's going to write a memoir.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
He thinks it's going to be very explosive.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
And she's very upset by this, Like, oh what, You're
just going to use my money now.
It's like did you even get yourpension?
He's like no, I quit.
He's like what, Don't do that,Just get fired next time.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
But but he did.
Didn't he get fired?
No, he didn't.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, because they were going to take him somewhere
else.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, they were just going to demote him.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
They weren't going to fire him.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I was just taking the demotion, like okay, whatever,
why not You're getting older?
Like settle down, settle down.
Then he goes to tell hisunresponsive dad on a boat yeah,
it's probably the only place hecan just go and say everything
that he wants to say.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
His only safe place Is with his dad Is with him and
his boat yeah, where his wifegoes to have sex.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Everything sucks in these people's lives.
I know they don't and theydon't know.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
That's what sucks for them.
None of them know.
So, katie, she sees this as anopportunity to file for divorce
and continue her adulterousaffair with harry um.
Katie sees a divorce lawyer whotells her that she needs to get
all her financial records fromhis computer and any secrets he
has before he is tipped off onthe divorce.

(19:40):
I love that.
The lawyer acts like osborne isjust like very secretive, uh,
spy and everything.
They're like you got to get itone up on this guy, okay,
because he's gonna be comingafter you he's an analyst, yeah,
and he's like he's an analystlike what are we talking about?
um, we cut to osborne justrambling about the cia, uh, and

(20:02):
it kind of reminds me of MichaelScott whenever he decides, like
I'm going to write a book, andhe gets a little thing and he
has like nothing to talk aboutand that's exactly what he does.
He starts to be like justrambling on about something and
he's like I don't know what tosay Then?

Speaker 2 (20:16):
he's just staring out the window waiting for 5
o'clock to come so he can drink,so he can start drinking you
don't have to wait till five.
Yeah, proof.
So yeah, you're not working,you're an adult.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yes, it is.
You got the day off two o'clockand jason started.
We're not judging here yeah,we're not judging me yeah, it's
like if I could keep my witsabout me, I'd probably do the
same thing.
But I'll just read my screen asmuch as a.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's more of a sip sipping.
It's a tall boy.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna sip so we cut to Harry and Katie
having sex on a boat.
I've never had sex on a boat meneither man but it's great I
need to go on a cruise get themotion of the ocean, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I guess they're in DC , so maybe it's like a river.
Yeah, I guess it probably it's.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So maybe it's like a river, yeah, I guess it.
Probably it's a bay, right,chesapeake Bay, yeah, that's
what they call it.
Yeah, this is.
And so, and this thing withHarry, every time he has sex he
goes for a run.
He's gotta keep, he's gottakeep that adrenaline going.
That's what fuels Harry.
Everything is just adrenalinefuel for him.
It's gotta be something fun.
He's got to be on the hunt, onthe run from something.
And when he starts going on therun he notices someone's kind

(21:29):
of following him.
So parallel all the time, yeah.
And then like the car passes onme, he's kind of looking around
.
Then all of a sudden you seelike a zoom in on him and you
kind of hear a camera zooming in.
Yeah, fun.
So, taking her lawyer's advice,katie, she copies financial
records and several other filesfrom her husband's computer onto
a CD.
These files contain a rambling,meaningless diatribe by Cox on

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the purported CIA activities.
This is when the music startsgetting very dramatic and I'm
like what this is?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Wait, I thought it was just financial records.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
No, it's like she just kind of got everything I
think it seemed like Copied hishard drive.
Yeah, just copied, probablylike the most recent stuff, I'm
assuming.
Yeah, so, because the whole,the whole thing that sets us off
is his him talking about thecia, making the other people
think that, oh, this is like topsecret information, but he's
just rambling about cia,low-level cia stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
He's never done a great thing in his life.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
He analyzed some shit .
I hear you, Osborne.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Just kidding, extreme mediocrity.
So then we meet Linda, whowants to essentially get
everything done to her bodypossible.
She wants a total of fourprocedures.
What a great scene.
The doctor so good.
The actor crushes it Becauseshe's just like, oh, I'm just my
charming self, you know.

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And he's just like, right, okay, yes.
We then meet Chad, linda'sco-worker.
They look at her dating profile.
Linda learns that her insurancewon't cover her procedures as
well.
Yeah, that sucks.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, you are, we're in a healthcare system.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Well, this isn't really essential stuff.
No it Well, this isn't reallyessential.
So this is elective things.
They say, yeah, yeah, I guess.
Right, like I mean if you, ifyou like, needed the surgery,
I'd get that Like, oh yeah yourinsurance would cover that, but
some countries they'll cover itbecause it's for your well-being

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.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
It's kind of like gender uh affirming yeah, care.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, I guess they did say that their insurance
sucks, so yeah, they call itmickey house.
Yeah, it's like we have aterrible insurance plan.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's like I don't think most insurance is covered
I wonder if it was because shecame in and she's like what is
up with this mickey house hmo isit called mickey house I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I thought she said Mickey mouse.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
No, it's Mickey house , but there's supposed to be
like.
Is that supposed to be a spoofon Mickey mouse?

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I assume, I don't know, I don't know, I, I, I
didn't even notice, I don't know.
They just said Mickey mouse.
I mean, I love her datingprofile, all that shit is great,
it's like plenty of fish.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, one of the first.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's one of those things where she can't put her
own picture up, which is, Ithink, kind of a great idea
actually.
Yeah, for things, so like whenyou do go meet him, if you're
just like oh, I didn't realizethis guy was going to carry so
many guns on him to this date.

(24:30):
Give you a last chance, bag.
He's like I'm just gonna keepgoing red hat, no cap, yeah.
So after work she goes to see amatch on her dating profile,
alan.
He seems very off, boring andquiet after an unemotional sex
session.
She snoops through his walletand finds a note from his wife.
Most likely oh, yeah, plunger.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, not cheerios.
Yeah, I love where they wherethey meet up it like everyone
goes to the spot.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
It's like well, obviously wives don't come here,
only single girls do.
Nope, um so, uh, back to Harryand Katie.
Katie tells Harry she isdivorcing Osborne.
Harry says he should divorcehis wife.
Katie's like I thought that'swhat we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
He's like oh, he's like.
I thought that's what we'retalking about.
He's like.
Oh, he's like.
No, I got a good thing goinghere.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
My wife's a famous writer now just like immediately
, as soon as he's like realizesoh, you're getting divorced.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, this has gone too far no, your husband's a
piece of shit, but my wife's agood person, great and you were
supposed to stay with him and Ionly have sex with you when I
want to.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I have to live with you now, obviously cornered,
because it turns out Harry mightbe a piece of shit when Katie
CD gets left on the locker roomfloor of Hard Bodies a local gym
, such a great name by a, acarrier, careless law firm, uh,

(25:50):
secretary, essentially this isthe older lady, right.
Yeah, it falls into the handsof a dim-witted personal trainer
, chad gotta love chad.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Co-worker linda oh, I know, and when he looks at the
files he's like it's just abunch of numbers.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, some words and more numbers yeah, because yeah,
that's what I put in becausethey mistakenly believe the data
data are bank records of likethe CIA and it's a highly
sensitive government and Chad'slike talking here about
department heads and their namesand shit.
And then there's other filesthat are just like numbers

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arrayed, numbers and dates andnumbers and numbers and dates
and numbers.
And I think that's the shit man, raw intelligence.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Something he likes?
Yeah, most definitely.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
We see Harry.
He's noticing that he's stillbeing followed.
We also see him buildingsomething that looks ominous.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh, with the pipes, yeah, or with the metal pipes or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, you know, we'll wait until we get to the chair.
Uh, linda and ted, her boss, goout to get drinks.
She's asking for an advance.
He because he wants the.
It's like uh, the surgery.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And he's like I don't think I can do that for this.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
It's like also, this is a gym.
How much advance do you get atgyms, right, yeah, it's not
gonna be much, I guess it's afancy gym.
But in new york, so maybe asalary you get a lot.
It's not going to be much, Iguess it's a fancy gym but in
New York, so maybe it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
It's not hourly wages , it seemed like it was salary,
right.
Yeah, that's what they kind ofhinted at.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, I don't know, I kind of want to work at hard
bodies.
I guess, if you work at a gymwhere a bunch of DC executives
and people go to you might haveto have some kind of security
clearance, but they definitelydon't.

(27:35):
Yeah, yeah.
So, and while they're havingall this, she's like, oh, I need
this, done, this, done.
He's like no, you're perfect,you're beautiful, someone out
there will like it.
Yeah, she can't get to him likehe's got.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
He's got like 15 signs around him that just says
me, I love you he's like yeah so, hey, if you thought that maybe
some people like you the wayyou are, yeah, she's like, yeah,
losers, yeah he's like oh okay,well, fuck me.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I guess yes uh and it's richard jenkins.
He's so funny, he's you just.
He's just such a lovable guy,right and everything he does.
You always root for him.
You don't ever want anythingbad to happen to him.
The coens make sure you regretfeeling that way.
But yeah, so she's not catchingon and he's just too nice for

(28:13):
her.
Essentially, we see Harryhooking up with a different girl
this time and they have sex andhe says I could go get a run,
he could get a run in.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
It's kind of like having popsicles after sex.
Yeah, adam Sandler movie.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
After getting the data traced back to Osborne,
chad and linda plan to give thedisc back to him for a reward,
with linda planning on using themoney to play for plastic
surgery.
And then you got the weird pitdance.
He's like, yes I love it.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
So he's on the treadmill, he's like dancing,
yeah, and I love that this ishappening like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
2, 3 am in the morning.
He's like so do you haveanything to drink?
I just rode my bike all the wayhere.
It's a long distance.
It's like I got water Tap water.
It's like you don't have anyGatorade.
I drove all the way over here Ididn't know.
So they decide that they'regoing to give Osborne a call.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
And I guess we could say the call goes horribly wrong
.
Yeah, because he immediatelythinks that his memoirs are so
important that someone wouldsteal them.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, and he's just like you.
Listen here, you fuckers.
You don't know who you'remessing with, but I love it
because Chad's on the phone.
He's like Osborne Cox and hesays it like three times.
Yes, I thought you might beworried about the security of
your shit.
Pitt is a fucking matt.

(29:35):
I don't know.
He's good in this he's crushingit he's very good at being dumb,
yeah, um, harry's wife well,and essentially he just yells at
him and threatens him, and thesituation goes from zero to 100
pretty fast and Linda's on theother line.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Who the fuck is that he's like?
Who's that?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's like I'm coming for you guys.
So we see Harry's wife.
She's going on a business tripand as she leaves, Harry notices
someone watching him, but thenthey drive off.
Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
But are they really Nope?
They're going to come, but arethey really Nope?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
they're going to come .
No, there's definitely someonewatching them.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
And they're going to come back.
Katie goes to her lawyer, wherewe see it was her lawyer's
secretary who lost the disc.
And this is the time where it'slike, all right, everything's
set in stone, all you got to dois sign off.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But we usually like to say since we're at the point
of no return, give it one moreday to think about it.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I love how she kept her in her gym bag.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Then we see Linda gets matched with Harry.
I kind of wish nothing badhappened.
And then like Linda and likeHarry got you know, went to be
better and then they gottogether because they're a very
cute relationship.
But they essentially go on thesame date as she did with Alan,
the same place they eat.
She's immediately loving himbecause he's so talkative and

(30:53):
fun and energetic and just likewants to eat a piece of her
thing.
He's like does this haveshellfish in it?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
because I can't eat it and then he eats it and he's
like, he's like, oh, fuck it,whatever, live dangerously yeah,
and then he eats it and oh,it's so good have you ever found
anything at the gym like no, acd only.
One time, when I was a teenager, I found a cassette tape and I

(31:20):
brought it home to listen to it,and it was my introduction to
musical theater.
It was a little miser.
It was the soundtrack to lamiserab, really and I loved it.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Someone's just fucking listening to les mis in
the theater at the gym that'sweird.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I was like I love this shit man.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Anyway, I've only heard like I've only heard like
one song, I think, from les mis.
I need to watch the movie, butmovies are cool, is it?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
is it cool?
I haven't seen the one withyeah, the newer one.
I haven't seen the one withyeah, the newer one, haven't
seen the newer one.
So I'm, I'm at solid.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I always just assume it's like sweeney todd, but less
gothic, rich people.
Uh, guy wants to get with girl.
I just assume that's whateverything's about in music,
basically yeah.
So, um, yeah, they go on theirdate.
It's a great date.
Harry laughs at all the mainthings you're supposed to laugh
at and he's coming up daisies orwhatever.

(32:13):
He's a great con.
They go to her house and theyhave sex yeah, I love how he's
like.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
You notice there's no ring on my finger.
Yeah, I always tell the truth.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
we are separated.
I am completely transparent.
Yes, where have we heard thatbefore?
I've never told a lie.
So Chad goes to meet withOsborne about the disc.
He's in his best suit, riding abike.
Chad tries to act tough.
He's like constantly like I'mMr, what does he call himself?
Dark Mr Black.

(32:44):
I'm Mr Black.
Almost looks like he's tryingto do Robert De Niro face a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, he's trying to be mysterious and he sucks at it
way out of his depth here.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Osborne tells him that he could go to jail and
eventually cause of blackmailand messing with the CIA, and he
eventually just hits him in theface.
Yeah, that was awesome.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
It was great he's like, oh fuck, it was so.
Eventually just hits him in theface.
Yeah, that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
It was great.
He's like, oh fuck, it was soshocked, yeah, and like the
whole time he's like where's themoney?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Squinting his eyes.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, 50,000.
But then Chad does not give himthe disc and runs, osborne
drives off and Linda picks himup and then rams the back of his
car.
She was pissed.
She's like I get my surgeries,I get my money, but I have my
money.
And then Linda has the greatidea for him and Chad to go to
the Russian embassy.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
First thought, yeah, who's a spy?
We could take this to yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
And so they essentially they go there,
they're like, what the fuck isthis?
They give them a disc, theytake the disc and they're like,
hmm, well, if you have more, wecould give you some money.
So, yeah, they want to try toget a little bit more
information so that they can getmaybe the $50,000.
And I love that.
The entire time Linda's likecan we hurry this up?

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I got a date, date, date.
And then Chaz is holding hisnose the whole time and then
Chaz is holding his nose thewhole time.
We see Harry trying to convinceKatie that they need to move
slowly, revealing that they aretogether so that they don't hurt
Osborn.
Wait till he gets back on hisfeet so he doesn't really freak
out about it.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, just give me more time and she goes home and
then Harry's laying flat on therecliner.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
I sound drunk.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Wait, why does she say does his blood have stool in
it?
On the phone call that she gets?
Oh, because, like, who are they?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
talking about what?
Oh shit, I just assumed it wasabout Osborne.
I did too.
Oh, she's a, she's a doctor,she's a kid doctor?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, she's a kid doctor.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, she's a pediatrician right, okay, gotcha
.
Yeah, that's right, it's theblood I've stolen.
I was thinking, for some reasonI see me put together that it
was like Osborne, like maybe hegot hit.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I thought it was too, but he didn't go to the
hospital, he just went homedrunk.
He just went home and got drunk.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, we see.
Then Harry goes on another datewith Linda he home and reveals
what he has been working on arocking dildo chair sex machine.
Yes, and I was gonna saysomething.
We got to this point, didn't I?
I knew I should have just saidit that chair rocks, no, um well

(35:20):
, forget it, can't remember coolway to go jesse yeah, um seems
like a ridiculous chair do youthink?
if you, your wife, came home, Iwas like, hey, this is what I
was going to ask how well do youthink this would go over?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Not good.
I don't think she'd sit on it,especially if I was the one that
built it.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, I mean, if Brad Pitt or George Clooney built it
, then maybe she'd sit on it.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I can barely put together IKEA furniture without
putting it together backwards.
She sits on it and just fallsoff.
Put together Ikea furniturewithout putting it together
backwards.
She sits on it and just fallsoff.
That would be my fear, but man,he really worked hard on it.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, he really did.
He did a great job.
He should sell those on Etsy.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, make a pretty good living.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, okay, that's curious.
So Osborne learns that Chad andLinda took his disc to the
Russians and at the same timegets served his divorce papers.
That was really good.
And he drives home and sees hisstuff on the doorsteps and the
locks have been changed.
My uh Ugh, that sucks.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Has that ever happened to you?
Locks being changed?
No, like all your shit's on thedriveway.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, I have not.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, luckily I'm a good boy, my parents, it was my
parents.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I think he told us that once on the pod.
It was one of those facts whereI was like what the hell, I did
not know that.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Thanks, dad, nothing.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
I mean, if they did it in the rain, though, I'd be
like you're dead to me.
No, no, it didn't rain.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Dead to me.
I really didn't have that muchstuff.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, it's like one chair and bag.
There you go, you havesomewhere to sit in your bag,
thank you.
So with no other data to givethe Russians, linda persuades
Chad to sneak into the Cox'shome to get more files from the
computer.
Chad, outside of the Cox's home, sees Katie and Harry go inside
for a quickie.
He's got his pillow, yeah, hissex pillow.

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Katie leaves Katie and Harryleaves, obviously, harry,
looking like he's about ready togo for a run.
So Chad makes his move and goesinside.
Chad notices that there's a manoutside, that it's the same man
that's been following Harrywatching him.
Harry is dropped off five milesfrom Katie's home and is
running back 5.2 miles yeah, 5.2miles.
And he's running back to it, asChad is breaking into Katie's

(37:28):
home.
We got a ticking clock 5.2miles and he's running back to
it as Chad is breaking intoKatie's home.
We got a ticking clock baby.
So, Chad, he's downloading moredata and is about to leave One
dun dun dun.
Harry walks in God howfrightening and nothing bad is
about to happen.
Yeah, he should have just ranback downstairs and exited out
of the door.
He entered right.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Well, I mean he could have just went to the back, oh,
you mean through the basement,because he went through the back
door.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, yeah, probably would have been a better idea
though he does the worst thingyou can do in any situation go
upstairs yeah put yourself inthe corner just go upstairs you
never go upstairs.
Um so, and then harry fine, uh,yeah, so he goes upstairs.
He hides in the closet, gotharry's taking a shower.
I'm like leave, leave, and he'sin the closet Got Harry he's

(38:09):
taking a shower.
I'm like leave, leave, he's inthe shower, just run out.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
There's nothing else to do.
I was so paranoid that someoneelse was going to come in.
Yeah right.
Because, Harry's paranoid thatsomeone's following him, yeah,
and so I was thinking like someagent's going to come in through
the door too.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
But the worst possible thing happens for Chad
because Harry goes into thecloset and then he's got Brad
Pitt's stupid giant smile likehey, he gets shot right in the
head.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I was so shocked because he said multiple times
to this point, like twice.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
I think that he's in all of his years of service,
he's never discharged his weaponand he does it immediately
easily.
Well, I think he did it becausehe's been followed for a while.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Then he's like oh shit, this is it and he was.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I mean, my reaction would be to immediately punch
the face.
I don't know, I would probablyjust freeze.
Yeah, I just love that they.
They did the classic gun thing.
They introduced a gun in thefirst act and now it's got to go
off, at least at one point.
Oh yeah, you're right, I lovethat chad sees that there's a
gun holster with no gun in itit's like, oh, it's like chad
you should have more in thecorner.

(39:15):
You shouldn't been right infront of him, just go to the
corner, wait till he gets out,pretend to be a suit, or you
should have ran out as soon ashe got in the shower because
he's not going to chase yououtside naked maybe, and plus
you're, and they have thequietest closet doors on the
planet, shit, you know.
Thinking about it now, I'msurprised they didn't do a chase
scene because they're both likefit and like.

(39:35):
Oh that would have been reallyfunny.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Harry runs, and so that could have been really
great yeah wait.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
You know what, cohen?
We're better filmmakers thanyou.
Uh oh no, we take it back.
But what I love right here it's.
This is where we see that thismovie is going to be kind of
fucking brutal now, I had noidea.
It's very, very brutal and Iforgot how much blood is
splattered in this movie.
That was amazing.
It's not as bad as the endingdeath, yeah, Jesus.

(40:03):
But yeah, I love Pitt's smileand then I love that because he
goes down, Harry goes downstairsand he comes back up with a
knife.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
He couldn't believe that he just shot someone.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, and then he's like, he's like checking to see
if he's alive and he did theroll to get his gun.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
You just shot him in the head, man, you just shot him
.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I think he's done dude.
And then he, like Harry, checksChad's identity and sees that
he has none, and all his tagsfrom his clothes have been
removed.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
So he couldn't trace.
That was funny.
Remove the laundry tags fromyour suit, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
So no one can trace you.
They don't know what suit youbought or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, ok.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
And he thinks he says like I killed a spook spy or
whatever they consider.
Later, at the CIA headquartersPalmer, the guy that demoted
Osborne and his director learnedthat the information from
Osborne has been given to theRussian embassy.
The two men are perplexed,given Osborne's low-level

(41:00):
security clearance, the materialdelivered to the Russians being
of no importance to anyone, andthe apparent motive of the
Russian embassy?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, and the apparent motive of Paul.
He's the head of Insider at theRussian Embassy?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, obvious, and the apparent motive of all
involved parties remainingunknown.
Cia also saw Harry dump Chad'sbody in the Chesapeake Bay,
where Osborne's boat is too, bythe way, and they are fuzzy on
who Linda is.
Palmer asks what they should doabout the body and the director
says uh.
Director says, burn it so theydon't have to deal with it.

(41:31):
Palmer is told to maintainobservation until the situation
makes sense.
Oh, that was so funny.
Yeah, he's just like.
Well, what about the bodies?
It's like what do you?
Uh, should we like investigate?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
He's like no, just burn it.
Should we get the FBI involved?
No, no, fuck, no, we don't wantto fucking get rid of it.
We don't want to deal with that.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
It's like I love it.
The CIA is just like.
We don't want to deal with shit.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
You know, this made me actuallyfeel bad a little bit for the
CIA, that idiots foundthemselves in this situation.
We don't even know how they gothere, who they are, why they're
doing anything, and it's justlike.
Then it turns out they're allidiots.

(42:13):
Nothing means anything, but itis a great scene.
Jk Simmons and that Palmer guythe guy that plays Palmer is
fantastic as a yes, okay, yeah,classic number two.
Just the Just JK Simmons's facewhen he's like, yeah, just
contact me later if it makessense.

(42:35):
I don't know what to even dowith this situation.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
So he's like I love that.
When he asked what kind ofsecurity clearance he had, he's
like oh, oh, ok, that's fine,none of this matters, who cares?
They can have it.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
They already have this information probably this
is what our guy inside therussian embassy just talks about
daily.
Um, so we see that osborne isliving on the and, you know,
actually thinking about it, andsomething that you don't really
think about the first timeyou're watching is this is a
point where they're like themovie's telling you everything
that is happening is dumb, it'sstupid and does not mean

(43:14):
anything to the world.
But it's all.
And it's the point where you're, I think you're supposed to
click that these guys arefucking idiots, and then you're
supposed to just enjoy howeverything devolves.
The farce, yeah.
So we see that Osborn is livingon the boat and that Katie and
Harry have sex in Nice.

(43:35):
We cut to Linda crying andtalking to Ted.
She's worried about Chad.
Ted tells her someone came inasking about Linda, but you say
beat it, creep.
She then gets a call from theRussian embassy.
She asked them about Chad, butthey don't know what she's
talking about.
Harry, burdened by keeping theday's prior events secret, is
chopping a shit ton of carrots.

(43:56):
Yeah, he's having a rough time,yeah, and he immediately gets
into an argument with Katie anddecides to leave the house with
his sex ramp pillow thing.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
That was a huge fit.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
On his way out.
He calls his wife to get her tocome home.
He spots a man who has beentrailing him for the past
several days and then he'sgetting out to talk to him and
the guy just starts like oh shit.
Starts hitting the cars infront of him and behind him
Everybody's dumb.
Yeah.
And so Harry gets back in hiscar and just like reverses it
straight into the guy, gets outand chases it and harry chases

(44:29):
him and tackles him to theground.
Harry finds out that the man isa private detective hired by
his wife, sandra um togetherreally upset about it.
Yeah, for impending divorceproceeding.
I love it.
He's like who are you?
Uh, I work for tucker man tomarsh, who tucker man to marsh,
and they just say tucker man tomarsh and it's like how he said
I said earlier, in all the otherCoen brother movies they love

(44:51):
the repetition of dialoguebecause the more you say it, the
funnier it gets.
It is always good.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, see, I really thought that Harry was going to
go on this like accidentalkilling spree.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
It ends up being a serial killer by accident.
Dude, we have a fucking moviethere.
A paranoid skit.
Yeah, it's perfect titleaccidental serial killer.
I need to add it to my list ofdumbass movie makes and then
Harry starts to cry and walksaway.

(45:22):
The guy's like get over it, man.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
It happens to all of us yeah, don't be such a baby,
harry, which is what everyoneshould do.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
That's like part of the movie everybody needs a boat
to everybody just needs to getover it.
This is what this is life, thisis what happened.
Um so, and then we cut to sandysandra, who's shown to also be
having extra marital liaisons ofher own.
Yes, so it.
So it's just like Custer's,like well, everyone's fucking

(45:50):
cheating, everyone's having sexexcept Ted, damn it.
Yeah, poor Ted.
And then we see Osborne'schecks have bounced.
That sucks what did he do?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
What did he do?
That was so that made her wantto take everything.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
I think it's just just he's an asshole.
I think it's just like these.
That's what these I think whatit was is her lawyer is like
he's going to take everythingfrom you, so you have to take
everything from him, so you needto do it first before he can do
it.
Yeah, situation, it is a.
It is not a nice divorce.
This is the type of divorce thatrich people get into to have
everything.
Yeah, hell, yeah.

(46:32):
So Then we cut to Linda at theembassy and learns that all the
info on the disc is drivelDribble.
The whole plot and everythingthat has happened is all because
they found this stupid CD of amemoir.
And everything that they havedone, the people that are going

(46:54):
to die, the people that havedied, the lives that are ruined,
are all because of a bad memoir.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Or someone who didn't know what intelligence was.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yes, that is the Coen brothers in a nutshell.
So Osborne learns that Katiehas taken all of his money.
Linda talks to Ted and tries toconvince him to get more
information from Osborne.
He says no and Linda says shehates him, leaving Ted sad and
at a bar Harry is devastated,destroys the dildo chair.
What do you think a seven andseven is?
That's like whiskey and spurLike seven up, yeah, seven up

(47:32):
Whiskey and seven up that soundspretty good yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, when he's destroying the sex chair and he
hits the dildo.
Yeah, this was a present for mywife.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah, she would have loved this Used on three other
girls probably.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
She would have loved it, yeah, and now it's gone.
And then Harry goes to see anagitated.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Linda confides in Harry that Chad is missing and
Harry's like.
I can't deal with this rightnow.
But, Linda is looking for a manof action.
Yes, like I can't deal with you, I got my own shit going on.
But Harry decides to agree tohelp find Chad and then, in a
rage, osborne decides he's goingto go to Katie's house because
he's got the keys.

(48:16):
It's a hatchet.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I've got the new keys um yeah, I really thought he
was gonna murder someone toowell, I mean we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I thought, yeah, yeah , um, and also the scariest
thing on the planet, I think, isan angry john mackovich.
Yeah, that guy is scary, yeah,so yell so loud.
Yeah, he's so good at beingpissed.
It's scary, harry.
Harry and Linda meet in thepark and Linda provides him with
more information about Chad'sdisappearance, but also Harry's

(48:48):
like who is that guy?
Then a girl walks up to him andhe's like, oh, okay, no, nobody
.
When Linda mentions the nameOsborne Cox, harry figures out
that Chad is the man he shotwith cell phones.
There's also a great line he'stalking to very relevant to
today.
This was before smartphones.
There's this part where he'ssaying it's like everyone's kind

(49:08):
of got cell phones now.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
So like because, talking about how to find he's a
US Marshal.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yeah, and how to find Chad, and it's like
everything's easy now becauseeverybody's got cell phones.
It's like soon everyone have acell phone and with cell phones,
it's like soon everyone have acell phone and with cell phones,
people are gonna know where youare at any given moment.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
It's like it came true, kind of it totally is.
I mean they kind of have to gooff the cell phone towers and
where they ping.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
But that's no, it's also not like literally every
single true crime dog always hasnow someone turning off their
phone and then reopening it, butit just makes it more obvious.
You got to leave your phone onat your house.
Yeah, just leave and then yougo.
You can do stuff without yourphone.
That's how the um people hateit one of the things that tipped

(49:50):
off.
That was obviously the guy thatin the idaho murders that
killed the four college students.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
He like goes at a certain point to kill four
college how to kill four collegestudents.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Well, he already knew he was studying to be a
criminologist or like forensicsand stuff.
Yeah, so he goes, he's going toit and once he gets to a
certain point turns off hisphone, does the murderings,
leaves and then at a certainpoint turns it on.
The cops are like it'sobviously fucking him and must
be also a ton of otherinformation and evidence he left

(50:21):
.
He was a bad killer.
Good student, bad killer so badstudent yeah well, student of
killing, he's an incel, so thisis who he was yeah, they suck.
Yeah.
So, anyways, take the brownpill, we'll cut back, yeah.
So Harry figures out that Chadis the man that he shot, he

(50:41):
panics and realizes that thereare strange men in the park,
most likely the CIA.
That are the people trailing.
Actually Linda, not him, and heflees, assuming Linda is a spy.
I love it.
Who do you work for?
Who are you?
It's me, linda Linsky.
Linda Linsky, oh geez.
So Ted, believing the Russianshave kidnapped Chad, he agrees

(51:06):
to go to the Cox's home tosearch for Osmond's computer.
At the same time, the CIA hasLinda completely covered, got
men behind her, a car behind her, beside her, on the other side
of her, in a helicopter hoveringright above her car.
He's like oh, for Pete's sake,so good man.
Everyone is bad at telling.
In this movie, though,everybody is terrible at it.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
So, but it's like the one time that Harry almost got
something right.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, right, yeah, but it just wasn't for him.
He's so paranoid.
And then here we come to theDamn Hardest part of the movie.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
It's our boy, richard Jenkins, about to have some bad
stuff happen to him.
Richard so.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Osborne, who already raided the liquor cabinet, finds
Ted in the basement.
Osborne initially takes him tobe Katie's lover.
He soon realizes Ted'saffiliation with Linda and what
he refers to as the League ofMorons.
He feels that he has beenstruggling against his whole
life and shoots Ted.
Ted is able to run away.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
He's also one of the morons.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, he's equally part of the morons.
Osborne follows him out with ahatchet and kills him right
there in the street.
That was fucked up, fuckingbrutal dog.
Yeah, man Yowchie right in theface a couple of times and it's
to the Out of all fucking people.
It had to be this nice guy, ted, that is just trying to help a

(52:27):
friend in a shitty situation.
Yeah, but he was the only goodguy that just saw someone crying
in his office that he loved, sohe decided to do it.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
He did kind of break into someone's home.
Ah, fuck Osborn.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
No, you're right, but he's just trying to get.
But at this point, like fromhis perspective is she seems to
be in trouble.
We can't even find Chad becauseof this situation.
Let me just try to help him.
Maybe you can smooth all thisout, that's true, and what does
he do?
He died.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, he gets shot right in the chest.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
It's rough and he throws like a hole puncher at
him.
It allows him to get away, buthe just gets beaten to death
with a hatchet.
So now we are at the CIAheadquarters.
A few days later, palmer andhis director try to understand
what exactly happened.
It is revealed that, whiletrying to board a flight to
Venezuela, harry was detainedbecause his name was on a hot

(53:23):
list, and that the CIA isholding Linda, who is promising
to play ball and sit on it ifthey will pay for her plastic
surgery.
I love how he's just like fuckit.
Pay her, yeah, just pay her ACIA agent shot Osborne during
assault on Ted and the bulletput Osborne in a coma because

(53:43):
they say, oh, so he's dead andhe's like.
No, he's like fuck, they'relike.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Well, if he wakes up, let me know he said oh, there's
one more thing, linda the womanoh fuck yeah, what about her?
He just missed an episode ofhis favorite show.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
He completely forgot about her.
So the director instructspalmer to let harry fly to
venezuela, as that country hasno extradition treaty with the
us and therefore will not sendhim back.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Yeah, he just doesn't want to deal with it.
Yeah, he's like who cares whatthis?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
guy did.
He has nothing to do withanything.
Let him go, and he's going topay for linda's surgery.
The director and Palmerconclude that, despite their
oversight and the unusual eventsthat have unfolded, there
appears to be no reason for theagency to have learned, be it
moral espionage or otherwise.
The director I guess we learnednot to do it again.

(54:35):
Fuck, if I knew what we did.
The director concludes.
He concludes that he doesn'tknow what he did and, despite
not knowing exactly what theydid, and closes the file.
Then we zoom out back to spacewhere the world just keeps
turning the end.

(54:57):
Jason, what's the point, man?
There's no fucking point.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
What's the point, man ?
There isn't a point, there's nofucking point.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
That's the point.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Most of what everybody does is stupid and
idiotic and it doesn't meananything.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Just, goddammit, have fun out there guys.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Hey, you got one life to live.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah, Go steal some government files and sell them
to the Russians.
I thought the point of themovie is how meaningless
everything can be.
The movie is just about a bunchof people going through shit,
finding themselves making everywrong decision, only hurting
themselves and other people more, and that everybody has main
character syndrome and it'sdangerous.
Everyone's just out forthemselves, trying to be a hero
or a romantic lead.

(55:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Don't do that.
You're not a you're not a maincharacter.
If you have the idea to dosomething like this should, do
you ever think you should juststop and ask someone else like
ask, find someone who's likesmarter than you and be like
just let me run?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
this bike real quick.
That you know.
That's the thing is.
That was, that's what head wasto linda and chad, but they
wouldn't listen to him, you'reright.
Uh, katie, was that for osborne?
We're're right, katie, was thatfor Osborne?
We're all screwed.
The wife was that for Harry andthe CIA is just they're all
smart but also just like out ofthe loop, because you know who

(56:10):
the fuck are these people who?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
are these people, these people?

Speaker 1 (56:13):
How about?
Sandy's book the cat thatinterrupted a filibuster.
Yeah, it's like, what is he?
I paused it on that scene andrewatched it.
I'm like what is the meaning ofthis book for this film?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
That's a dumb book.
Yeah, oh yeah, it's wonderful,it's great.
It's all good.
It's all good.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Cohen's baby.
Oh, I can't wait to do.
Whichever one we do, I thinkprobably the next one I'll want
to do is probably going to be aserious man, and it's just about
essentially just an averagesuburban Jewish man cursed by oh
shit, what's the?
I've probably seen this movie.
What is the Jewish curse theyput on?

(56:59):
I don't remember.
Anyways, so we're going gonnafinish out this movie, though,
so we're gonna talk about thegood, the bad, the ugly, the
fine.
It's where we discuss the goodof the film something we liked,
a scene, character, whatever.
The bad something that we didnot like.
The ugly something that didn'tage well.
The fine something that did agewell.
Um, what do you got?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
for the good.
I think my good is that Lindais the only character in this
whole movie that came out on top.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Right, she did it.
She's getting her plasticsurgery and everything.
She's gonna change her ways.
She's getting her tummy tucksor whatever, face peeled back or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Yeah, what are the four surgeries?
She's probably gonna getProbably like a facelift.
She's doing her arms Boob job.
She's doing the boobs.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Oh, she did talk about it, she's doing the face
and she's doing a tummy thing.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
She was going to do.
She was going to do?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
she was, I guess it's liposuction, facelift boob job,
and I don't remember what else,I was just guessing, yeah, I
didn't know.
Well, they kind of say most ofit, I, they're going to pull her
arm, flap up her crow's feet,cheeky, cheeky, and yeah, she's

(58:04):
talking about it's going to gether boobs bigger.
She wanted to do stuff to herthighs but the guy's like, well,
you can actually still work outyour thighs to make them
smaller.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
No, that's hard.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
But when you get older, everything goes to your
gut and your butt.
Yeah, yeah, I put the good asthe ending.
With the debriefing, I thinkthis whole movie probably barely
doesn't really work unless youhave all the CIA shit.
That was an amazing ending.
It's the punchline.
At the end of the movie.
It's like oh, what did we watch?
Something pointless Like thanks, coens, glad I did that.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, some stuff happened.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Honestly, that's how all Coen movies kind of make you
feel at the end Just like, oh,nothing mattered Except.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Fargo.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Cause, you know, march she gets, she gets to have
her her life still, and in thismovie she still gets to have
her life, yeah.
So what do you got for the bad?
Uh know, my I put my bad isthat it probably isn't the best
movie for the first watch.

(59:05):
Completely not true, though,because you just said you liked
it.
It's the first time you saw it.
But I think for people that saylike the movie doesn't work
should watch it again, becauseit you just have to see all the
intricate.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I was in shock like the whole time I was in shock
and like kind of laughing yeah,but like just amazed at how dumb
bro everybody just watch itevery two years and your laughs
would become like your lives gofrom haha to haha maniacal laugh
, especially every time jksimmons like ends the ends one

(59:37):
of his scenes.
It's like like hell yeah, he'sone of my favorites.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yeah, so the Ugly.
What do you got for the UglyDating?

Speaker 2 (59:46):
apps, I guess.
Yeah, I haven't been on one inso long but like, I remember
being on them and it was bad.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Yeah, I'll put how true kind of this film is today,
you know just, everybody'sreally just still fucking
creating conspiracies in theirhead trying to act on them, and
but they're real, jesse,thinking that everybody's a spy
or an agent or massiveconspiracy and stuff like this
and like you know what,someone's gonna fix it, I'm
gonna have all this money now.

(01:00:13):
Was this before q anon?
This is 2008.
This is I think this came outbefore this is definitely this
is a Bush era movie.
I think a lot of the movie isprobably based on you know
everything happening around theGeorge Bush era.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, Did you have anything for the?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
ugly.
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I didn't really have anything.
Dating apps, dating apps,that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah, it seems like, the older dating apps seem a
little bit better than the newones, they weren't.
For the girl at least.
You don't even have to put yourface up so you can feel safe
whenever you go, and try to findthe person and if they look
crazy, you can walk away.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Yeah, and we've lost that over the years.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Making women feel safe yeah, and now it also now
makes everybody feel soinsignificant because it's just
like your face.
Don't like your face.
Don't like your face.
Like your face, swipe what thatface do, swipe.
Um, so the fine something thataged well mine is always gonna
be when I do this for a coenbrother movie, fucking coen's

(01:01:13):
they're amazing, they're myfavorite filmmakers and they
always will be, and plus the aregreat.
I love that.
They essentially took like someof the best performances from
their other movies and put thosepeople into this movie and
essentially just made a greatlittle like story while they're
writing their I don't know bestpicture winning movie.
It's like if this is just likea yeah, this was a side project

(01:01:37):
we're doing, it's like your sideproject's better than most
people's movies their mainmovies.
So yeah, fucking assholes yeah,what do you got for your um?
you're they wipe their asseswith this yeah yeah with the
script, they sneeze this movieout of their nose.
So what age?
Well, for you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
uh, I don't think brad, well, I don't think brad
pitt, age well, have you seenhim?
God, he's always hot watch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood he takes his shirt off
on the top of a roof, and I wasjust like it's like shit, get
me on a roof.
I was like, oh, why is my chairall wet?
It must be like all the girlsaround me just getting wet and I
was like that's me that bittook way too long to get out the
joke.
Is girl's supposed to be wet,but it me wet.

(01:02:25):
Yeah, jesse wet, jesse wet,jesse wet boy, oh god um no, I
think, uh, the coen's definitelythe age.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Well, I don't know, farce Just looking down on
actors as they do stupid shit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
It's the best.
It's nice to see beautifulpeople do stupid things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Because all the actors and beautiful people we
see, they always live the mostperfect lives and then you have
to see them really go downhillCool.
So that's our good, bad and theugly.
Fine.
Now we're going to cut to ournext category, Double feature.
Will we recommend a movie thatwould be a great watch alongside
this movie?
Jason, go first.
You might have heard of thismovie before.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Oh brother, where art thou?

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Yeah, george Clooney is always in a tight spot, a
bunch of idiots in a CoenBrothers movie, doing one thing
after another and it's actuallybased on.
Well, it's the Odyssey and theyalso base it.
I guess this is the oh brother,where art thou is there.
They consider it their Wizardof Oz, but it's also the Odyssey

(01:03:38):
.
You got the Sirens, the Cyclops, the Cyclops, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
John Goodman, god damn.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I love John Goodman, turn them into.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Hornet Toad.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
It's the best.
Love it.
And.
I Come singing to my can.
Yeah, I chose a movie calledAfter Hours, the Martin Scorsese
film.
Where did all my stuff go?
It's um, it's a movie whereessentially one guy who's bored
one night decides to go get somecoffee, meets a girl and the
worst night of his entire life,nice happens, it is.

(01:04:12):
I don't see it like there's apoint in the movie where I mean
all he's doing is just he losthis money in the cab and just
everything spirals and spirals,and spirals to the point where
there's an entire neighborhoodlooking for this guy.
But yeah, it's directed byMartin Scorsese.
Fun fact about it it wasoriginally supposed to be
directed by Tim Burton.

(01:04:32):
I have no idea what that moviewould have been, but there'd
probably been some Skelemons init.
But yeah, it's a great, fun,short little movie that one of
our best filmmakers did.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
That's cool.
Yeah, that is our episode on.
Burn after reading, don't burnafter listening.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
You ever try to burn a CD?
It doesn't, it bubbles.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Yes, I have, I have burned a CD Me and Richard did
it one time.
Hell yeah, just because we'relike, let's burn some shit, what
that CD do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
We ain't got no parental supervision.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Yeah, well, his dad went out on Saturday nights.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
We watch movie and play Call of Duty.
Let's put some shit in themicrowave.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
How many Diet Dr, or how many Dr Peppers, can we
drink tonight?
Eight, I probably had a billionDr Peppers at his house and
have probably eaten a thousandtombstone pizzas at his house.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah, dude, it was wild.
That's all we did every weekendFun.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
So if you have fun, let us know.
And also have fun next weekwatching a great movie called
Cloverfield, a movie I wasobsessed with leading up to the
release of it, and you know whatLoved it when I watched it and
couldn't wait to see what greatsequels this movie would have,
only to learn they're just goingto do weird side projects

(01:05:57):
around this world and it's likewhy won't you?
Just do another one Moremonsters, please have monster go
.
Yeah, join us for Cloverfield.
I'm going to be yelling aboutthe movie and all the all the
fun little Easter eggs andthings you could do on like just
literally in the movie they hadlittle Easter eggs on the

(01:06:18):
actual eggs on the disc, youknow, know, like the home screen
when you go to like play movie.
Yeah, if you did littlecombinations, what little things
popped up in the corner and youcould click on them and have
like little scenes.
That's wild or just.
And you could go on websiteslike physical media.
Where did you go?
You could go on a slush showwebsite and then learn about how
, like they've been drilling andstuff in the ground and it's

(01:06:39):
just like.
What does this mean?
It's like ARG, I think, is whatthey call it, or whatever it is
.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Yeah, join us next week for Cloverfield.
Damn Jason, it's time to closethis memoir and this case file
or whatever Memoir.
So, everybody out there, we'dlove to hear from you.
Got a couple of comments on, uh, youtube, can't remember the
guy's name, but he wants us todo bottle rocket and wild at
heart.
You ever heard wild at heart?
No, oh, bro, it's a lynch movie, david lynch movie.

(01:07:10):
It's about the loss ofinnocence.
Like all his movies bat shit,insane, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
It's got nicholas cage and um, oh, no, you know,
it's batshit crazy if he's in it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
What's.
What's her name?
Uh, what's her name fromjurassic park?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
popular hot actress.
I think it's her name lauradern.
Uh, that darn darn.
I was gonna say a differentname that I just made up um, but
yeah, uh, thank you for leavingus that comment.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
if you're still listening, that was on the Royal
Tenenbaums episode.
And then there was also anotherperson on our YouTube for
Coherence.
That is like he loved the movieCoherence and had a little chat
with him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
So, yeah, keep sending us things and I'll talk
to you.
Whoever you are, we lovetalking to people.
Yeah, link in the descriptionat the top.
At the bottom, it's our Gmail.
We recommend mailbag atgmailcom.
I now have to burp so much.
It's crazy.
Yeah, leave us some reviews.
It'd be great to see morereviews on our podcast.

(01:08:15):
Come on, just do it.
You got nothing better to do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Come on, mom.
Stop TikTok-ing and God want,just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
You got no better stop tick tocking and god dang,
review it.
Uh, yeah, and people that Ikeep telling to do it at work
and they won't do it.
But I'm starting to feel weirdabout constantly asking them to
review us.
I've never felt more like youcan't know.
I feel like a mormon persongoing to people's houses like,
hi would you like to review foryour lord and savior?
Yeah, fuck, yeah, dude, um, butyeah, thank you, prosser, for

(01:08:41):
our intro and outro.
You can follow on X at Mr JoeyProsser.
And well, this has been the weRecommend Podcast.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason.
You know, I could go for a run.
Bye, thanks for watching.