Children of Men

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast where every weekwe recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason.
As the sound of the playgroundsfaded, the despair set in.
Very odd, what happens in aworld without children's voices?
Because this week we recommendChildren of Men.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Children of men.
How real is this movie rightnow?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, it's on.
I was like one of the things Iwas going to ask you is like hey
, so man, this was made duringthe Bush war era.
Right, you know, you had allthe you know, the refugees then
and there was a lot of like warthat they were having to deal
with.
And I'm like, wow, so it justcontinues, huh.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It just never ends.
Yeah, You're just like you'rewatching it and you're thinking
this movie is so entertaining.
We'll never ban immigrants.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, We'll never just want to like just to pour
them all and put them in somesort of camp?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, we'll never have camps for stuff like this.
Why would we?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
ever do that and then like one half of everybody's
like get rid of them all, andthen there's going to be another
half that probably definitelybecomes like the other side and
they all start fighting.
That'll never happen.
Nah, just luckily, instead ofin the streets, it's all just
over.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Twitter and this whole thing about them everyone
being infertile.
It reminded me of the 4Bmovement in South Korea.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh, I heard about that.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's where women have the 4Bs stand for the Korean
words for like.
They refuse to marry men, datemen have sex with men and have
babies with men.
Wow, like, suck it.
Yeah, we're going to removechildren from the equation, or
like Then what are you going todo?

(01:57):
Then what are you going to do?
Yeah, but that's not reallywhat happened here, I guess.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
This is just such a good idea for a movie.
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
It could not have been made better by the
directing and acting andeverything.
It's perfect.
Just the idea that, like shit,there's going to be no more
humans anymore.
What the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Working or anything at this point.
Imagine how happy people onplanes must be now.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, there's no more crying babies ever, thank
goodness.
Just too bad.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
There's nuclear warfare and everything else, and
the whole human race is goingto die in a few years.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, that's.
I mean, I guess it's justwhenever you, because I was
thinking about that.
I was like, why is everybodyjust fighting all the time,
though it's like, can we justkeep living like we are without
having to blow each other upjust because we can't make kids?
But then I was just thinking,no, someone's probably like,
well, we're all gonna die,there's gonna be nobody left who
cares about the planet.
Let's do what we want.

(02:55):
I want to attack america.
So then you get like a littlevideo on one of the tv screens
of like a nuke going off in newy.
City and it's like, yeah, thatjust seems like probably what
will happen, like Putin's goingto just bomb something or any
other of the bad guys.
Hell yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I don't know.
I really like what his brotherdid.
He had the statue of David inhis house.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, fuck, yeah man.
And then you had the giant likethe animal.
What's the Pink Floyd albumthat has like the giant floating
pig?
It's like obviously a referenceto that album, which is great.
Yeah, there's a lot of likemusic references yeah, and it's
just, you know, kind of PinkFloyd just talking about how you

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know, rich people are pigs andstuff like that.
So you know, you got this guyin his high rise in the middle
of no desolate area, and so yeah, here's some rich pig.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I thought it was.
I really thought it was a.
I didn't make the musicalreference to Pink Floyd, but I
was thinking of like Animal Farm, a.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
George Orwell.
That's also where they kind ofinspired that album too.
Yeah, hell, george Orwell.
That's also where they kind ofinspired that album too.
Yeah, yeah, hell, yeah.
Dude, the only reason Iremember that is because I have
a shirt with that album on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like as soon as I sawthat pic, I was like fuck, yeah,
I remember doing my first soloand I remember it now.
So what is?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
it about.
I like the dystopia policestate.
Yeah, it's so entertaining towatch and not be a part of.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
It is terrifying.
Yes, it's something that alsothat I read during the faxes.
They were whenever AlfonsoCuaron, the director of this,
when he was like, yeah, I wantto make it, it's going to be
futuristic.
And, of course, our director islike we love futuristic, let's
go ham.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's only two years from now.
He's like wait?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
not Blade Runner, futuristic we're talking about.
Near future we're talking aboutlike we just got screens
everywhere and everything'sabout to blow up.
Yeah, but, like the technologyis not too far off.
They have computers in the cars, yeah, I mean essentially.
I mean we have that, but itjust attaches to our cell phones
instead.
Right, Instead of havingneeding a keyboard, we just have
our phones and they're like.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Screens are everywhere, just like 1984.
Yeah, you can't escape thescreen.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, it's wild.
It's, I think, for me man, thedirecting and the filmography in
it.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's very good.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Very good, like the one shots.
This was something like afterthis movie.
Everybody was like we're doingthis all the time.
Like you know the car scene,when they're in the middle of
the woods, get attacked, it'sall one long shot.
It's like, oh, is this like thegreatest thing I've ever seen?
And then you got the sevenminute shot of when they're
fighting.
They key gets her baby takenand there's a whole battle

(05:43):
through that building.
It's one shot.
Yeah, up inside that building,it's one shot oh yeah, because
he, because it looks like it'sjust like a home video camera,
like some dudes, because it'sshaking yeah, it's shaking but
it really works so well becauseyou know, and usually just
you're just like somebody nextto clive owen, running behind
him a little bit, and it makesyou feel, wow, refugees that are

(06:04):
stuck in this shitty situations.
It really sucks for them.
I just kept getting emotionalwhile watching it.
I was like golly, this movie isit's 9 am in the morning.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
What am I doing to myself?
It was.
I thought the most powerfulscene was, uh, the whenever
they're coming out of thatbuilding and then everybody
stops.
Yeah, that was cool, it's justlike just for a minute.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Everybody's like fuck , it's a baby, wait, is there
even any reason to fight anymore?
Someone shoots.
Oh yeah, that's right.
We're already kind of into this.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
We're in the middle of a war.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, let's get back to it, oh and this having and
just having all the people liketouch his foot and stuff.
Oh no, His little baby foot.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, oh Jesus, this gave me baby fever like crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
And I hated it.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, I don't want more babies.
Whenever I was just liketouching the foot and like it's
like oh no, this cute CGI babythat looks pretty darn good for
CGI.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Somebody bites it.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, give me that toe.
It darn good for CGI.
Somebody bites it.
Yeah, give me that toast.
It's like, stop with the jokes.
I want to know what the heckhappened to Clive Owen.
That's what it is he's like.
You know, I saw him in this.
He's dead now.
No, he's still around.
It's just like, bro, you're sogood Like.
I've only three or fourdifferent movies that I can

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think of.
Have you ever seen?
Shoot them up?
No, but I know that somethingwith carrots in it.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, there's like this partwhere he just slides for like
five minutes of the movie andit's like it's so funny.
It was just like I don't have afunny goof, like parody movie
Almost If you think about it,there's really no roles for
handsome British guy anymore.

(07:43):
That's true.
They all Zero, zero.
Hey, jason, everybody's Britishin our movies.
By the way, you think you'rewatching American?
You'll watch an interview andbe like God, dang it, he's
British as well.
Shit, get him out of here.
Ban all immigrants.
Like all we got is JakeGyllenhaal and Leo.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Everybody else is British.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I don't know, but man , he's really good in this and
he's got one of those faceswhere you're just like I trust
you, yeah, and I feel likeeverybody in this movie,
apparently, yeah, and I reallylike what they did with the pets
, with like dog, with animals,all of them.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Because, they all loved him, and so it's kind of
like this idea that he doesn'treally give a fuck about being a
good dude anymore.
But he is, yeah, he just is,and you know.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So the fun thing is at the beginning of the movie
like there's animals barking athim and stuff until after
Julian's death, oh really.
And then all the animals trusthim because he's like now he's
like I got something to fightfor and stuff like that.
So they knew it before.
Yeah, because I was like,because it was just there was
this point at the very beginningwhere, like there was like a

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dog just bark at him likeviciously.
And I was like dang, dude, he'sjust walking down the street.
And then after that, everysingle animal loved him and I
was like, oh cool, but somethingI also noticed there's always
two of every animal.
They all love him.
Dude, he's Noah, oh shit.
And then I looked it up and Iwas like and then, you know, I
kind of started thinking.

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I was like wait, hold on, isthis like any other connection?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Everybody's like, yeah, dude, I think the whole
point of this is he's not.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I don't know I don't really get it.
Well, there's a she revealsthat she's pregnant in a barn.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
She's supposed to yeah, she's supposed to be like
Mary Magdalene or not, mary.
Magdalene, but Mary, son ofmother of God.
Which is fun.
I don't know.
It was interesting.
Yeah, that was okay and it wasinteresting.
The religion that they had waslike super weird and crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, it seemed like there was.
I think it was at that pointthat everybody that was with
them was kind of a differenttype of religious person, like
the.
It seemed like the miriam, Ifeel like she was doing like she
was doing buddhist stuff sheput she put the.
The thing on her forehead waslike a buddhist oh yeah, and
she's doing like tai chi yeah,some weird form of form of Tai

(10:04):
Chi.
And I think there's, like youknow, because this is an area
where all these refugees havecome in.
It's like you know, everybody'sgot their different religion
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, it's just kind of like a blending of all of
them.
Yeah, and those dudes runningthrough this.
They were walking.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, but then it's like just a little bit later
down the scene then you havelike a group of French refugees
in there and it's just like shit.
Everybody's in this camp, likeevery religion, and it's anybody
.
That's not British or United UK, you know is considered a
refugee Even someone like FranceRight.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, because I think this, in this universe,
britainland or whatever thefucking call it, yeah, uh, it's
like the last city on earth thatstill has any kind of
civilization because they hadlike that news thing that says
all these fucking people died.
British prevailed now, we'renot gonna let anybody in, yeah,

(11:00):
oh.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Also, whenever I saw the pig in, uh, whenever they
showed the pig in the background, I just immediately thought of
uh, what's the Black Mirror, thevery first episode?
Did you ever watch it?
I think so.
It's where he, like he has tohave like the prime minister has
to have like sex with the pig.
Yeah, and as soon as I saw that, I was like just kind of

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laughed a little bit too.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Black Mirror is so cool.
Yeah, it's wild, fucked up andweird.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I love it.
Yeah, so we'll talk aboutafonso cron a little bit.
Um, he's so good dude, likeevery movie that he does, like
the cinematography is amazing.
He kind of got famous for why?
To mama tambien, I'm sorry Iwas gonna butcher it.
I didn't want to bring it in.
I need a watch.
I haven't, and then he did.
Why is it pronounced E?

(11:48):
E2.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
E2.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
E2 means like and you , hey guys, I shouldn't have a
podcast because I don't know howto pronounce anything, and I'm
so sorry.
But then that movie got himHarry Potter and the Prisoner of
Azkaban.
Damn.
That's when those moviesstarted looking different and
less childlike.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, they did have a couple of teenage deaths in
that one.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
And then they're like , hey, great job Do Children of
Men, yeah.
And then he did Gravity.
Did you like Gravity?
I don't know.
Sandra Bullock in Space withGeorge Clooney, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
That's one.
Yeah, that's one, yeah.
Where she like he getsjettisoned out, yeah, and he's
just like don't worry, yeah, bye, bye, don't forget to drink my
espresso.
Sucks pretty much Bye.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
And then he did Roma and he hasn't done anything
since.
Roma is like a.
It's a movie, all right, it wasup for like Oscars and stuff.
It's about like Is it about theRomani people?
I think just Mexican people Isthat Romani?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
No, I don't know.
I mean Roma.
Is Rome right For?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Italians In the life of a middle class families made
in Mexico City in the early1970s.
Okay, oh, Mexico City in theearly 1970s.
Okay, oh, dude.
Just looking at the trailer, itlooked beautiful.
People thought it was going towin the Best Picture and it
didn't.
I don't remember what it did.
I think that was the Green Bookyear, which everybody was like.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I never saw the.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Green.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Book.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, Everybody was mad.
It's like, of course, we havethe movie about, like you know,
this beautiful, great movieabout, like you know, these
Mexican people in 1970s, butthey give it to the White Savior
movie, Of course.
And Green Book, I believe, wasproduced by, produced or

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directed by one half of thepeople that did Dumb and Dumber.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Which half I'm looking it up the bottom half.
This is really like.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Peter Farley.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I feel like the bottom half did Dumb and Dumber.
The top half did that Becausethere are all kinds of fart
jokes.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, so the director of Dumb and Dumber there's
Something About Mary has won anOscar for Green Book.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I love Something About Mary, I actually haven't
seen Green Book.
You know, I think it's one ofthose movies that kind of just
got really shit on because itwon an oscar and everybody
didn't want it to be the onethat won the oscar, which
happens quite often in moviesand we have to stop and just

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appreciate films.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I want to watch it now.
That's my ted talk, all right.
Well, bro, let's get into somefacts.
Where we get into this?
Amazing.
I love facts, feed, facts, feedme.
So in the movie, theinfertility crisis is a result
of all women being infertile.
In the original novel, whichthis is a book by PD James, it's
a result of men producing nosperm.
Oh shit, do you think they justchanged it because of a more

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powerful kind of visual of justlike you?
Know trying to get a woman, youhave to blame the women.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, that's basically the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I definitely don't think this movie like, had that
intention of like, oh, we got toblame the women, because the
movie doesn't really blame women.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Basically, but everything with religion
especially everything is thewoman's fault all the time.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
So like I could, a part of me just thinks that they
really.
He just like I'll have so muchbetter imagery if it's a woman
pregnant you know, with a barnsub, even just the last shot of
like it's just a woman alone onthe ocean, yeah, with her baby,
like because I couldn't rememberif the boat showed up at the
end.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I was like deadbeat boyfriend.
Yeah, it was actually dead.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, he's dead, don't do shit, yeah, good job,
and so the writer and director,alfonso Cuaron, stated that he
didn't want to make a film thatends when the credits rolls.
He wanted to make a film that,when the final credits roll,
that's really the beginning ofthe film, and I want a sequel.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, a good way to finish this movie off is to add
a bunch of creepy child laughter.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
No, it's emotional.
It made me feel things.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Now, if the boat would have showed up with a
bunch of kids operating it, thatwould have been incredible.
Yeah, lord of the Flies.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
It's just like oh, oh .
By the way, you remember themovie beyond thunderdome, mad
max.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, we made it through that now we're here to
get you guys.
I haven't seen it.
I don't know the reference.
Oh, is it all children?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
well, like he just like escapes from the
thunderdome area and then hefinds some kids like in the
desert, like living like it'sfucking peter pan.
Hell yeah, dude.
No, it sucked.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
That part of me sucks okay yeah, find some kids like
in the desert like living likeit's fucking Peter Pan.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Hell yeah, dude.
No, it sucked that part of mesucks, oh, okay yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
So this movie never explains the reason for the
infertility.
This has been attributed toQuran's dislike for expository
film.
Totally agree with him.
There's a.
He says there's a kind ofcinema I detest which is a
cinema that is about expositionand explanations.
He once said it's become amedium for lazy readers.
Cinema is a hostage ofnarrative, and I'm very good at

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narrative as a hostage of cinema.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
So what do you think lazy reading is?
You just kind of like read alittle bit and you get tired.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, the movie just explains the whole theme point
and like everything.
So you know, like most of ourlike the most popular movies, I
would say like superhero movies,right when it's like sure, if
there's a mystery into it, it'sgoing to be explained in depth.
By the end of it it's like,well, we could have just kind of
figured it out.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh, so you're saying that they don't give the viewer
enough credit?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
to be able to understand what's going on.
It's not like, let's say,Severance right.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Since we both watched it.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
So the beginning of season one, something I noticed
because we watched the first twoepisodes last night the brother
and sister, adam Scott and hissister right, they don't just
come out like hi sister, heybrother, you can just kind of
tell by the way they like banterwith each other and it's like
it's a very brother and sisterthing.
But like some movies would belike oh, I got to go hang out
with my sister at this party whoshe has a husband and does this

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.
It's just like show don't telltype of thing.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
And I guess I like her brother.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Why are they together ?
It makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I was asking Natalie Because he's a rich author.
I was like.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
You know what makes me think that.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I don't like her character anymore.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
It's because she's with this guy that makes no
sense.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, he seems very sensitive.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
He seems like he's got a lot wrong with him.
Yeah, seems like I would notlike to hang out with this guy.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
He's like always on his high horse.
Yeah, oh God, that's like ahater.
He makes books for corporateshivs.
Yeah, he's just trying to bringhim back to the light.
That's all he's doing his part.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Why would anybody be that guy?
But to be honest, in that show,like outside of the main
characters like everybody's kindof insane.
Yeah, like the way everybodytalks and stuff.
So anyways, back to this movie.
Sorry, I got severance on thebrain really hard.
So the street battle where Theo.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm severed right now .

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh wow, that's my real job.
It was.
Which Jason do I know, then?
Just as bad as this, one asidefrom the other one.
So in the street battle whereTheo has to take cover in a
battered building caused concernfor the studio, as it took 14
days to prepare this one shot,with a delay of five hours every

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time it had to be reshot whatit was shot over the course of
two days, but only one completetake was actually captured on
film.
In the middle of one take, someblood spattered on the camera
lens.
This is kind of when he's goingthrough the bus at this work.
To the end, writer and directorAlfonso Cuaron nearly ended
this take by shouting cut, buthis voice was obliterated by a
sound of a tank gunfire.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
He said cunt instead.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
He's like cut.
Somebody shot him but thecinematographer persuaded him to
leave it and uh, you know thatscene fucking rules because of
it.
Yeah, it's cool as fuck.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Man always let blood on your this movie's got a lot
of like the last of us vibes forme it really delivering the
girl that's immune to thedisease, or whatever.
Yeah, it's awesome, yeah,fucking rules.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You can definitely see there's so much I feel like,
well, obviously the Last of Us.
It's a very cinematic game, soit definitely took from
different movies, and Childrenof Men had to be very inspiring
for them, and it had to be afungus that sucked the semen
yeah from yeah it's not mushroomsemen in the air, it's like

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spores.
Yeah, it's not man's fault.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
We got mushroom semen in the air.
It's like spores mixed withsemen.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
It's like ew yucky.
I was worried about spores, butnow it's got common.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
So out of the three extended tracking shots, and
tracking shots is, you know,like the long takes and stuff
where it follows them around.
So when Key gives birth, that'sthree minutes and 19 seconds,
one shot.
There's the ambush on thecountry road, that's four
minutes and seven seconds.
Like starts with them drivingand them having fun and with a
ball game, yeah, and then itends with the police getting
shot.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Weird place to have a sexy party game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
But I was there for it, I know.
And then the raging streetbattle.
Like the most insane part ofthe movie is seven minutes and
34 seconds, though notcompletely one shot, because
through careful editing and alittle digital help, each of
these scenes are not actuallyall one seamless shot, but very
subtly spliced together.
We've been lied.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
But it's great, I like being lied to.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Something that you might have missed.
You know the guy with the crazydreads.
Yeah, yeah, it looked familiar.
Yeah, charlie Hunnam from.
I've seen him before.
He is from what's the fuckingmotorcycle movie on FX movie,
pacific Rim.
He's the main character ofPacific Rim, oh shit that's like

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a big robot.
Kaiju movie indeed, it verymuch is.
He's gonna be ed gein in thenew, like you know.
Yeah, it's a guy from sons ofanarchy.
That's the shit I was trying totalk about.
Oh, okay, yeah, I was likethat's what?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
because that's the first thing I thought of when he
said that.
But it's not a movie.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, it's a series.
It's a series.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm sorry, but like even still, like I still don't
remember him.
Yeah, it's okay though, We'llget there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
He's crazy dreads.
There was one more I wanted todo.
There's so many good notes, sothis movie and its source novel
are full of religious imagery,befitting a story about a baby
with potential to save allhumanity.
There are several parallelsdrawn between key and Mary Jesus
when Theo first sees the.
Our savior frilly, yeah,bazooka if our savior is, or
Bazooka, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
If our savior is named Bazooka.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Fuck yeah, man, I just love that part where he's
like all right, I finally gotused to Froli.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Now you're going to name it after Bazooka.
No, Froli's a boy's name.
What Are we sure?

Speaker 1 (22:59):
But when Theo first sees that Ki is pregnant, she is
in a stable.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Oh, when Theo first sees that Ki is pregnant.
She is in a stable oh, like Isaid earlier.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
You know, just like a major, yeah, slice of nipples
off and then he's like Jesus.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Christ.
He yells that after.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
When Theo asks who the father is, Ki at first jokes
that she's a virgin.
Another not to marry.
The rebel group that Julianworks with is called the Fishies
the Fishies the Fishies hasbeen a symbol of Christianity
since the second century AD.
I know the name, they just takeeverything.
The name of the main character,Theo, is derived from the Greek
word for God.
The title Children of More.
Men is from quotation of fromPalms, 90.

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Psalms, psalms 90.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I said Palms it's from, fists it's from fists.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I'm getting so fucking pissed off here.
Hell yeah man, I'm gettingfucking pissed.
Fucking love that chapter.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
That'd be badass if it was just like Fight Club in
the Bible.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I'd read that shit Also.
Just one last thing Patrick theguy with the dreads when, just
because you know, towards themiddle of the movie they're like
they're able to find Jasper andit's like how he was pretty
yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
How the fuck did they find him yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
So whenever he first goes to visit Jasper, um, I
guess, um, patrick was actuallyon the bus whenever he's going
to go meet Jasper behind him, sothat's how he knew where he
might be.
I just want to add that in asone of the facts, just because
that makes sense.
Yeah, but yeah, that's all thefacts I got for it.
I'm going to have to cut thatone out.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I'm going to fact it up now.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I'm ready to go.
I got so many facts in me.
I'm going to explode with allthese facts.
I'm going to fact all over this.
I got some facts in my hair.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh God, I've got facts in my hair.
Oh God.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I've got some in my eyeballs.
These facts are making me crySnakes like just let me out of
this room If this is what you'regoing to do, just let me out of
this room.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I don't care how much I love Jason.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I don't want to be with him anymore.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
All right, bro, Fact me daddy Now that we're having
so much fun.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Should we talk about some of the worst stuff?
We're gonna like hell yeah,let's do it.
Some really shitty stuff, nowshitty stuff.
And how is this gonna remind?
Us what is shitty aboutanything?
Anything, that's true.
So curious if you just don'tlook at it or think about it.
None of it's shitty.
No, yeah, like the cousin right.
Like the cousin right.
It's like what's the point ofhaving all this if no one's

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going to be here in a hundredyears?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I just don't think about it that fucking cut me to
the core because you know,especially now, because you know
I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I'm just like I can't keep hearing everybody complain
about politics, so I'm justlike I'm just I don't care you
don't watch it constantly andyou're constantly mad, sad and
scared.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
And then you know at work.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
People like you just kind of hear people talk about
it and just like I don't care.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I don't, because I avoid everyone.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well, I try People talk loudly in the break room.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I know you just have to ignore it at all costs, all
right, here we go.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Baby Time for Children of Men, 2006.
So the year is 2027.
Not too far away.
Getting nervous here.
Getting nervous, I know.
Nearly two decades afterinfertility crisis struck
humanity, in more than 18 yearssince the last child was born,

(26:23):
the world is in chaos and theUnited Kingdom houses the only
functioning government remaining.
I almost said functioning, yeah, hell yeah, they be functioning
, fucking and shit up.
All right boys.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I mean, if you knew that you could never have a baby
again.
It's just like all orgies allthe time.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I feel like this is how Katie got pregnant.
That was, yeah, that wassomething interesting.
Uh, because you know, wheneverhe's like asking is like do you
know who the baby is, and she'slike the dad, she's like I don't
know which one, because youknow it's like if can't have sex
, I mean if you can't havebabies, like that pretty much
gets rid of all the stress aboutlike, oh, we shouldn't have sex
because you know.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I mean obviously other than when she found out,
she's like I fucking skipped her.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Her pill day.
It is one of those things whereit's like, out of all the guy
dang women here, I know it's gotto be me that gives birth.
God damn it.
This is going to be sostressful on me now and a whole
future plan of not having babies.
I was going to get railed everyday this year.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
So it's okay to be sex positive.
Yeah exactly, I'm just sayinglike how, like she was young,
she probably just like well,fuck, like now, my life's going
to be different forever.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, I'm going to be the first one Like, not only do
I just have to.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Why me Unexpectingly have a kid that I did not plan
on having, but I've also neverbeen taught about anything about
having kids, because nobodythought anyone would have kids
ever again, which, I feel like,is what we're trying to do now.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
But also like oh great.
But now it's like, oh great, I.
But also like oh great.
But now it's like oh great, I'ma fucking celebrity.
Now Everybody's going to bewanting to talk to me.
I mean, it drove that one babyDiego, insane.
Speaking of that, we shouldprobably get going, oh OK.
So we see Theo Farron.
He's on his way to work inLondon, but he stops to get some
coffee where he walks into thisplace and everybody's like

(28:21):
crying.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
It's a great shot immediately diego died.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, then we learned that poor like 18 year old baby
diego died and he's theyoungest kid, youngest person
alive.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
He's not even a kid anymore.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
He's always been a celebrity, since he was a little
baby.
Apparently.
He, he just like, is constantlybeing like pummeled by people
wanting his autograph and stuff,which is just so fascinating to
me that people are like we haveno celebrities anymore.
It's you, dude, we have to fanout about somebody.
You're going to be the lasthuman.
And then he spit in one oftheir faces and they kill him.
Yeah, so he gets his coffee,Luckily as.

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Jasper will say a little laterhe didn't get coffee or sugar,
or cream or sugar.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
He did, but he put it in later.
Yeah that's true.
He waited Because the room wascrowded.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
As he leaves that coffee shop he walks a little
bit down.
We see this great futuristic,like apocalyptic, like city that
looks real and dirty and gross.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
There's all these catamarans.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, and then the coffee shop explodes.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
They hate coffee in the future.
What a great intro.
And if you think about it,columbia hates us.
Now with the tariffs, yeah,coffee's going to be bad, like
coffee's going to be hard tocome by.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I will see you somewhere else.
We'll get Canadian.
Oh, I know Canadian coffee.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I'll be down with that.
We can get.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Hawaiian coffee.
They make coffee there.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Okay, I don't know why I said that.
I didn't know that Is itvolcanic?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I don't know Hope it is, but anyways what?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
a great opening right .

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Because then, like the camera kind of starts
running away from Clive Owen andthen, like you just see this
woman walk out and she's got noarm.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, she's holding it.
What was the movie?
The World War II movie, wherethey're on the beach storming
Normandy with Brad Pitt.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, saving, private Ryan Saving.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Private Ryan.
He comes out holding his arm.
That's the greatest war movieever made.
God damn it.
I know it's just like sometimeswar movies really mess me up.
So this movie wasn't so bad.
Yeah, because there weren't alot of alarms.
Yeah, except for Jas't like alot of alarms.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, except for.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Jasper's, which is why Jasper's alarm is fucking
insane.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It was sick, it was metal, so it wasn't the same.
My favorite alarm ever Shouldmake that my ringtone Natalie
would be like what the hell I?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
know, it was so uncomfortable yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
It made me feel bad.
Definitely wakes you the fuck upthough.
Yeah, but yeah, what a great,just what a great intro.
It looked beautiful,everything's great, and then you
just immediately you're stuckinto this vibe.
People are like, oh shit.
People are like young kid,18-year-old, youngest person on
the planet.
You immediately walk out, looksterrible, and then there's like
bombings inside just randombuildings and it's like, oh uh,

(31:13):
there was points where this wasthe some people's lives, even in
today, in like 2000 so it'slike it just also gives you the
idea that there's like factionsworking against the government
and coffee factions workingagainst other factions.
I hate coffee.
I love.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
When that happens, what the fuck was that man?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
you never felt those before.
No earth, earth rattling, no,what.
That happens all the time.
You never hear it.
Nope, when it's just like arumble, it's like that.
You feel everything shakingaround you.
I don't know what exactly it is, and if you do know, go to the
link in the description to letus know.
Jason's freaking the fuck out.
His face is immediatelyterrified.
The world is ending Back when I, where I used to live.

(31:54):
It used to happen often, butnow, where I live, now it just
is.
It does it like almost two tothree days Maybe it's like a
transformer exploding.
No I think it's probably likethe earth shifting or whatever.
So did you get your haircut?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
recently I got it cut like two months ago.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Oh Well, it looks nice.
Thanks, man.
I just thought you recently gota haircut.
I was like, oh, I like yourhaircut, but anyways.
So, Theo, right After thebombing he just decides.
I guess I'll just go to work.
Yeah, Everybody's crying overthe fact that baby Diego's dead.
Everybody's just looking attheir monitors crying every
single person is watching thishere's what I love.

(32:35):
Pio goes to his boss and insteadof saying, hey, I almost blew
up in a coffee shop, yeah, he'slike, I'm just really affected
by baby diego's death and hegets him out of work yeah,
because his boss is like I don'tgive a fuck man.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, the world's ending for real do whatever you
want.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I don't even know what this job is.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm assuming it works on like newspaper or something
I guess bombings are like sonormal they're more normal yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
And being sad about the boss is like great, yeah,
walk by two bombings today.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
He's like yeah I don't give a fuck, dude, just go
.
It's a pretty pretty wildexcuse.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's like oh, someone died, like you don't even know.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh yeah, you can go home oh yeah, by the way, I was
almost killed, yeah yeah, youknow actually now you gotta stay
um, and then we cut to a videowhile he's on a bus.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
We see the essentially a video of the world
burning, like how every singlecountry has just fallen apart
it's never gonna happen, rightnever.
We said here first folks, yeahand then we uh, don't worry,
you'll always have this podcast,unless we lose all the wi-fi
nope, never gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Never.
We're gonna be around forever,we're gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
everybody's too dramatic, we, we'll be fine.
So and he's like watching thiswhile on a train or a bus or
something, and then we see likethis great shot of just like all
these I guess the refugees justlike throwing stuff at the
train.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Do you like how they call them Fugees?
Yeah, that's great Like a bandFugees Remember that that's
probably a G killing me softly.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Hey, maybe that's why they don't seem to be killing
people softly here, do?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
you think that's why they call themselves the Fugees
refugees?
Dude, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I don't know, I don't know, tell us.
Isn't that their last name?
I don't know.
I just assumed it was theirlast name just blew my mind so
he goes to his dealer, a friendnamed Jasper Michael Caine baby.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I feel like they're closer than just dealer because,
like Jasper used to be, I knowthey're like best friends.
Yeah, because I'm guessing thatTheo is a reporter right.
That's what it feels like yeah,and he's been a reporter for
like 20 years or whatever, andJasper, he's a cartoonist, he is
a cartoonist.
Yeah, oh, like 20 years orwhatever, and Jasper it's a
cartoonist, he is a cartoonist.
Oh, I didn't get that.
But like you see all thenewspaper clippings in Jasper's

(34:55):
house and like he's probablylike the guy that broke the soul
story and then he went, had togo into hiding, and like that's
probably how they got to knoweach other and that's he reminds
me a lot of my mother-in-law'spartner.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, kyle, just like a hilarious pot smoking guy.
Yeah, it's like it's such agood hang.
Yeah, and he's got all thesehouses full of books and shit
yeah.
I'm just saying like the one,like peaceful place in this
entire movie is here and I'mlike I hope nothing bad ever
happens to Jasper.
I know I know his house is sofucking cool.
I know it's great, but they'rekind of going to the house to

(35:31):
discuss the whole situation withthe bombing and the baby Diego
dying.
He's a wanker.
They also talk about thethousands of illegal immigrants,
termed Fugees, which we talkedabout are streaming into the UK
but the government brutalrefugee policies do not allow
them to live peacefully.
Refugee policies do not allowthem to live peacefully.
Instead, they are sent toinhumane refugees camp like the

(35:53):
one on Beck's Hill very nearJasper's home, Because we see
like the bus going by that hasall the Fugees, oh yeah, and
then we created up windows.
Then we also get like thefinger scene.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Pull my finger.
Why is it Jasper, jasper, Ilove Jasper so much.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Oh, this was the line I meant to do at the beginning
of the podcast.
Oh, let's hear it, BecauseJasper says after escaping the
worst atrocities and escaping toEngland, our government hunts
them down like cockroaches.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
It's not just beans on toast, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Oh man, because you know I was just like, oh, this
actually sounds pretty good.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Yeah, sometimes beans on toast.
It's British as hell, I know Ireally want to try it.
It's like I want to start myday off with flatulence.
Hell yeah, dude.
We kind of learned that Theo'sa loner, has no girlfriend.
We meet Jasper's wife, who'sunrespondent.
She's in like a catatonic stateyeah, she's Jasper.
And News over the existence ofthe Human Project, a fabled

(36:48):
organization said to besearching for a cure for
humanity's infertility.
Theo says what's the point ofsolving infertility if the world
has already gone to shit?
And then we learn Jasper sneaksweed into the camps.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, dude, there's somebody who knows named Sid.
Gotta have people like Jasper.
Yeah, it's the best assholeever he's got the strawberry
weed where it's like you smokeit.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
It doesn't taste like strawberries, but once you
cough it starts tasting likestrawberries.
It's called strawberry cough.
This is the best friend youhave ever, dude.
Yeah, it's like especially atthe end of the world, and I love
like the beginning of thismovie.
You have like all this chaosaround him and what is it?
So far it's just been a liketeen stoner movie.

(37:29):
Yeah, oh boss, I'm sick, I gotto leave, I don't feel good and
he just leaves and goes andhangs out and smokes pot in some
dude's house.
That was so rad.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, so it's just like hey, they have like normal.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
They're still just being normal even though there's
all this chaos around you.
When you got weed, you can doany, which, by the way,
everybody.
How can you be normal when somuch is happening around us?

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Looking at you world.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
We all just smoke, weed Just kidding.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yes, that's why it should be legalized everywhere,
whatever helps you sleep.
Or just be a normal human.
Just ignore the atrocitiesgoing on.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
You gotta smoke, just smoke and watch severance fuck
yeah, dude, or yeah, thishappens whatever.
So it's the next day.
We see more people in cages andtheo's kidnapped by an
insurgent group called thefishes.
This is where the dog barkswhen he walks past the cages the
only dog that's ever mean tohim well, maybe he's just like
happy.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, because they bark all the time.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, like my dog when you get here and you're
like, are you gonna kill me?
And then he starts squealingand it's like oh, you're just
weird.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I've never felt that he was gonna kill me.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, he's always so happy he is so happy and loud
about it he loves me.
Don't you take that away fromme.
Yeah, I won't.
So, yeah, um, the fishes are.
Who are fighting for the?
The fishes?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
That's so fun.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
They're fighting for the government to recognize
equal rights for all refugees.
So you know At first, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Until you figure it out.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Well, until someone dies which?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
we'll get to very soon.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Leading the fishes is his ex-wife, julian, played by
like one of the best actressesever.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Julian Moore.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, she's amazing.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Oh same first name Damn the two separating
following the death of theiryoung son, Dylan, 20 years
before he was lost to the flupandemic.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
But yeah, that hasn't happened either.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, only twice.
Essentially, it's only happenedtwice since this movie.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
But in this movie it happens in 2008.
Yeah, which is when the housingcrisis happened.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah.
And then you had the swine flu.
Like what 2010?
Yeah, which was the big flu.
Yeah, ash the pig said fuckthis the floating pig.
Yeah, julian needs Theo to getthe fish's fake transit papers
so they can escort a youngrefugee woman to the coast.
She offers him 5,000 pounds,knowing he needs money, doesn't?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
really seem like a lot, but I guess in this time
it's gotta be yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
And he refuses and they take him home.
But you have this dope linefrom Julian, because you know he
kind of brings up that he'sthat he got, he almost got blown
up by that bomb.
He says you know that ring inyour ears that eee, oh yeah,
that's a good one.
That's the sound of the earscells dying like their swan song
.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Once it's gone.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
You'll never hear that fricassee again.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Talking about the human race, Ifeel like right.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Essentially just a metaphor for the human race.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
I just I know that I have tinnitus from being in the
military, yeah, and so, like,whenever I hear it I never
thought about it until nowBecause I saw this movie a long
time ago but like hearing thatline made me really worried
about every time my ears areringing and I'm just losing
frequencies constantly.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I mean, you know, I've just been sitting on the
couch and all of a sudden andI'm like, well, I don't know
what I just lost, but I hope.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I don't need it later .

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Probably not going to need that.
I just thought it was kind of agreat like.
I feel like it's a metaphor forthe human race in this movie at
least, right?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Oh, I feel like it's a metaphor for like the human
race in this movie, At leastright.
Like.
Oh yeah, you hear somethingcrying out.
That's just a swan song.
Yeah, as she said, I heard thislike the last child's voice you
heard.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, so Luke gives him an address if he changes his
mind.
This is also where you get thebad breath.
Bit between.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
That was really funny and I love how they uh, I guess
they had to take this from thebook, right how they, they kind
of show humans, even theterrible ones, they, they show
their humanity through comedyand I really like that about.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, there are like just a few really funny bits in
this.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
And I'm like shit, Like really good characters.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I was almost like I was feeling really sad and the
next thing I know I'm like ha haha.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'm like, oh, he's like yeah, because he's like
your breath stinks.
He's like no, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yes, and there's like a perfect amount, there's not
like too much, right, andusually whenever most of the
comedy happens, it is kind of atpoints where it's like it's
kind of like it's unexpected orit's just like oh, it's not like
in the middle of, like a battleor something.
You know it's like atappropriate times.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, when they have a little bit of downtime, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
It's not like you know, the like Marvel position
when they a like.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Marvel position of where they stop in the middle of
bullets.
Nothing's ever serious, let'sall make jokes.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Though I do enjoy as well.
But I'm just saying Know whenit's appropriate.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I just love when Hulk fucks everything up?
Yeah, love and Hulk.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Love and Hulk fucks.
Sun's going down real fast, bigguy.
So we see Theo in a fancy cardriving through run down streets
until he goes through a gate,and then we see the nice rich
streets with people.
Yeah, they got horses zebras.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
There's a fucking zebra zebras.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
He's got people just like dressed up, all nice, just
walking around.
So that.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, that is like so .
Yeah, cause it's all gated offand everything all nice just
walking around.
So yeah, that is like so.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, because it's all gated off and everything.
So, it's like oh, that'sexactly.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
This is super rich.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
This is where they were safe.
That never happens.
So he then goes to like thisbig giant fancy building and I'm
like, oh, this must be like agovernment building, because
it's been a while since I saw it.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Then.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I was like oh, he just lives here now.
I guess this is a giant fuckingcompound.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
It's amazing and that is this is where we see why
doesn't he live there?
I don't know Anybody could livethere.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
I'd be like hey, cuz what up, dude.
And this is where we see hiscousin's like, yeah, I rescued
this, get it.
It got blown up a little bit,but we got it here.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
We had to save the penis.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
No, the penis was perfectly fine.
The penis was perfect, perfectpenis, delicious penis, but he
was missing his other leg.
We can't call the statue ofDavid's third leg a leg.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I love it, I want one .
Yeah, he was saying he's likemy mom has a plastic one of
these in her bathroom.
He's like no, I got the realdeal bro.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, also, the dogs are there, they're all.
They'll like them.
Well, no, these dogs like don'treally come up to him, that's
right.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
These two dogs?
Oh yeah, and they're Afghans.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, and they're not like.
They don't like come up to himand like love on him.
That's the dogs.
Later he asked Nigel, which ishis cousin, for transport papers
for a lover of his, Becausehe's like what do you want?
Essentially he's like oh yeah,I met this girl and she needs
some papers.
Yeah, bro, he asked him andthen, essentially, he's just

(44:50):
going to agree to do it.
And then he asked him why sucha fancy house when in a hundred
years there will be no one tolook at it?

Speaker 2 (44:55):
he says I just don't think about it what did you
think about his son's virtualfucking Rubik's?

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Cube game he was playing.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
It's like going ham at it too.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I'm like dude, you ain't got any better games than
2006.
Nope, they had a Call of Dutyout back then, right?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
2006, those PS2.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
There's so many good games.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
There's so many games Shadow Colossus Come on, let's
go, baby.
So he goes to tell Luke that hegot the papers.
The only catch is these arejoint transit papers, so he will
need to accompany the refugeewoman to the coast, which he
will do for a couple more grand.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, and good on Luke, he bought him like three
beers.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah, he just kept it was kind of a bit because at
first he gave him one and then,like a little bit later in the
scene, he gave him two, and thenhe's still putting more up
there Like what are we doing?
Yeah, Luke come by any time,Obviously something that Julian
probably told Luke to do.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
It's like look, he drinks now, so just keep going
to beer.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
He'll agree eventually.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
But yeah, because I love like when he goes into that
government building to see hiscousin and he just puts out his
he's got like a like a fifth ofliquor.
He just he's like this is mycarry around.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And just like carries it with him throughout the
whole movie.
That's just a life hack.
Yeah, that comes important andjust like carries it with him
throughout the whole movie.
That's just a life hack.
Yeah, that comes important.
Later, though, and I love thatwhenever, like luke shows like
it's him, he like shows him apicture of like a lost dog and
it's like a border collie, yeah,and then, but a teeny one, it's
like their calling card thefishies yeah because that's how
he wants to.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
That's how he tells them how to get in contact with
him.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, to To post that on the board.
The immediate next scene we seehim.
He's at like a dog racing trackright.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Can they still be doing dog races?
Yeah, we know how bad they areto those dogs.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
People still have to gamble, I guess.
Hey look, they're killing eachother in the streets.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
They don't care about these dogs in this movie.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, those dogs probably have a better life than
they do Even though I did findit fun that, like everybody
really loved the animals, thereare animals in this movie.
And I was like oh yeah, they'rebabies to these people Aw.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, they are Like the lady at the end that's just
constantly carrying her dog likea baby yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
They're all.
This is their replacement forchildren, essentially.
So he's at the dog park.
A little old lady comes up.
Have you seen this dog?
He's like I know what this is.
That's the secret.
Yeah, and so he.
He meets Julian on a bus.
They talk about the loss oftheir son and of course he
immediately is like you just gotover it fast.
He's like what the fuck?
No, I didn't, I just didn'tbecome a bum like you, Theo Damn

(47:28):
.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Which is just like putting him in his place.
She's like no, I became theleader of a global uprising,
yeah.
It's like hey, what have youdone?
I would at least like to tryagain.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
so let's try to figure out if we can get another
kid, but you know, it's likeyou got any ping pong balls.
It's like classic.
You know, it's in a bunch ofmovies where it's like anytime
there's a death of a child it'salways like, oh, you got over it
too fast or something like that.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, apparently it's bad.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, I probably won't ever have to do that.
It sucks.
So he asked her why him?
And for like the 500th timealready at this point in the
movie he's told that she trustshim.
That's something that is oftensaid about Theo in this movie.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
It's almost like they're trying to tell us well,
yeah, he's kind of like thischaracter that is automatically
trusted by every person andanimal.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Well, so at this point he cannot help but be a
good dude.
It's only Julian that keeps.
It's like you can trust them.
I say you can trust them.
You can trust them and thenlike, eventually, like all the
people that need to trust himare able to trust, yeah, because
he's leading them to the arcand that's what I thought was
like really interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
He's like he didn't want any of it, but he's just
like he cannot help but be likethis person that people trust
and love and like well also Ithink he he wants to get back
with julian too.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, he definitely does.
There's this point.
He asked, like, what happens tothem after?
After all this and she's likeuh, she kisses him, says she
doesn't know.
So it's like there's obviouslythey want to be together, they
just yeah but the death of thechild breaks you.
Yeah, so it's like to him afterthis, like, oh, if I do this,
for maybe we can figure this out.

(49:11):
Yeah, yeah, and then I put mynotes.
Don't worry, theo, you won'thave to worry about that.
It's like like five to 10minutes.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
That won't be a problem anymore for you.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
So then we cut to.
Theo, julian and Luke get inthe car with Key, the refugee
woman, and Miriam, an olderwoman, accompanying her, and
head to the coast they're havinga good time in the car.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah well, she's the midwife.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
I assume, yeah, and I love that.
Key gets in there and Theolooks at her and is like, oh so
is that her?
And she's not paying attention.
He's like what the fuck are youlooking at?
She's listening to her walkman.
I guess something I love aboutkey is that she's just a normal
person.
Yeah, it's like not like this.
Oh, I have to, baby, I'mimportant.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
It's just like yes, hey, bro, get away.
It's like I got pregnant.
Yeah, what up?
It's like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Everything's wicked, all I know is I trust julian,
which she can trust her for therest of her life, which is in
five minutes.
It's over, um and then sothey're having a good time in
the car.
You can start seeing thechemistry between theo and
julian like they really have agood back and forth.
They do the little, yeah, pingpong ball get a bit definitely

(50:26):
some sexual tension.
So I'm assuming that julian waslike.
Oh, before I go on to this long, adventure to the coast.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
let me make sure I go buy a ping pong ball real quick
.
It was really funny.
Before she did it she's likeI've tried this with hundreds of
people, damn slut.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Well, maybe that's like her way of like.
She dates somebody and, at theend of the day, before we kiss,
can we try something?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
You got to.
That's like her way of like shedates somebody and at the end
of the day, before we kiss, canwe try something?

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's just got to do the ping pong test
Like you, get three chances Ifyou don't catch it, we can't no
fuck yeah, one chance, we can'tcontinue dating.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Sorry, man.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
No, but like it's like, even though I knew the
scene was coming, I was like, oh, maybe we got like two, three
more minutes of this.
You know them playing around.
I was getting really happy andI was like I know something
bad's going to happen, but maybeI got like a few more seconds
of it?
No, because a giant car comesrolling from the forest blocking
their way, and then thesegroups of people come running

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down after him.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
It was so funny how, like she was sitting there,
she's like keep going, justdrive faster, you'll make it.
Yeah, and he's like what, what?

Speaker 3 (51:39):
again.
I feel this all the time when Idrive with my wife.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
She's like trying to get me to be more aggressive and
I'm like no, it's not safe,yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a very
safe driver and I often hit redlights.
Natalie has told me multipletimes if you just drove faster
you would have hit the redlights.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I was like I don't know, this is how I drive.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
That's so real.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
I've never been in a car accident.
Everything about this movie isso real, but yeah.
So then all of a sudden, likeas they're trying to back up
really fast, there's amotorcycle coming after them.
There's two people on it.
One guy's got a gun.
The whole time I was thinking Iwas like Luke, stop and let
them hit you.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
They're on a motorcycle.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
It's so easy to take them out, but then one of them
shoots Julian right in the neck.
It fucking sucks.
It looks miserable.
Damn that sucks.
Everybody's freaking out.
Theo is able to knock like theguy that would the gun off of
the motorcycle, which is great,um, which is he does it twice in
the movie.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
It was awesome Both times yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
And, uh, while driving, they're continuing to
drive away and they're able toget away, and it's like this
really sad moment where you canalmost see the light go out and
Julianne Moore's face.
She did a really good deathscene in this and it's really
agonizing for the rest of themin the backseat.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I thought it was funny how Miriam's like put
pressure on the wound he's like,but it's in her throat, he's
just choking her.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
There's not a lot of options here.
Either kill her with my handsor the bullet does it for me.
And, while escaping, a few copcars pass by.
Then one of them stops, drawstheir gun on them and they're
going to question them, but Lukeshoots them both and drives off
.
Damn, that escalated quickly,so this is probably considered
one of the best scenes in filmhistory.

(53:23):
Really, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
When he shoots the cops.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Just this whole one shot.
Oh yeah, them driving, it isreally good.
And then in the chaos, and thenthe officer shot and then it
just drives away.
So many times on like all mysocial media is like the scene
pops up all the time and peoplelike here's how they did it,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah andstuff like that, and it's just
essentially like a stunt driverlike and like mechanical cameras
and stuff just kind offollowing.

(53:47):
I think like the driver has tokind of control it most of the
time actually too, and there'slike a rig on top of the car I
believe that can kind of spinaround.
Maybe that's what it isInteresting.
And there's like cars,obviously, that they CGI'd out
around.
Oh really, okay, it's amazingand everybody should watch how
they made the if you'reinterested in just filmmaking at

(54:07):
all.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
You should watch it.
That is really cool.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Honestly any Alfonso Cuaron movies, watch how he
makes the movies they're amazingGravity.
It's like the whole movie islike man.
It's great.
So back to.
Luke subsequently takes chargeand they leave Julian's body
Julian's body to rest in thewoods.
You have theo.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
He brings out his bottle of uh, look like jimmy is
it jimmy or jameson, somethinglike that, I don't know some
kind of whiskey kind of breaksdown next to a tree, then luke's
, like everybody, get in thegoddamn car we gotta get out of
here.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, it was a cool scene.
He's like.
He's just like crouched downtrying to smoke, can't like.
His motor functions aren'tworking.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
He finishes zero cigarettes through the entire
movie.
No, he doesn't one thing Inoticed in films and tv is how
much of the plate of food peopleeat, how much they drink and
their coffee or alcohol.
When they go to random bars tomeet people and like they come
in, I'll have a coffee.
Walk out, for the coffee getsto the table.
I'm like what the hell guy?

(55:09):
Or how much like when theysmoke.
Well, you don't have to pay forit if you don't drink it.
That's true.
But cigarettes is like anotherthing I've noticed in movies
where I'm like people will lightup, they take these puffs and
they throw it on the ground andwalk off.
I'm like why'd you light it?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
It kind of shows that , like they, the interruption of
a cigarette or something likethat is is very I don't know.
It's good.
It's showing how what they seeis important.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Yeah, but she had to put out a cigarette because it
can't be in a car with apregnant lady?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah, the first, which is why he's never
finishing any cigarettes.
It was a good on him man.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Yeah.
So they then drive to a Fitch'ssafe house to discuss their
next move.
Theo wanted to leave, but Lukesays that it's too dangerous and
says that Leo will be takencare of the next day.
It's also where we get the linethat the dogs like Theo.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah, they don't like anybody.
Classic hero shit.
Here you must be the hero, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Key reveals to Theo that she is pregnant because he
goes to the barn to meet her.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
So she reveals it in a fun way.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, he's like whoa, whoa.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, you think maybe she's just lift up the bottom
part.
Yeah, no, she's like fulltopless.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Let's go After she's just talking about cows getting
their nipples sliced off to fitin the machines yep, so other
than just the you know theobvious, like Jesus reference,
do you think there's anythingelse that it meant by having,

(56:45):
like you know, because they'relike, attached to like milking
machines?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
it looked like almost yeah, I mean that's, that's.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
I mean, it's a dairy farm yeah, that's what they do,
it's like, what do you think themetaphor is for that?
Or is it just the the wholereligious metaphor?
Because before I really startedthinking about the religious
stuff, I was like this seemslike an important scene we're
talking about, like cutting offthe nipples of cows and stuff,
yeah, but then they're attachedto milking machines.
So it's like like, because,like in.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Throughout history people have sliced off.
Like whenever there's agenocide, they slice off women's
nipples so they can'tbreastfeed babies.
Ah, so, it's kind of like ahindrance.
Yeah, for reproduction.
Cool, I'm glad I asked you thatquestion.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Because I almost was like, oh yeah, this is just like
a religious symbolism, but Iwas like I feel like there's
more to it.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Let me ask.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Jason, yeah, I'm pretty sure they did it in the
Bible.
It's awful yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah, people kind of been shitty for a long time,
yeah, man.
So Theo realizes that Key couldunlock the future of mankind by
providing a cure forinfertility.
Julian had intended to hand Keyto the Human Project supposed
scientific group in the Azoresdedicated to curing infertility.

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However, luke persuades Key tostay.
Oh yeah, and also like thereason that she told Theo about
the baby is because Juliantrusted him.
We hear that a lot in thismovie.
That Theo is very trustworthyJust because of Julian, and
everybody like comes in whenevershe reveals that she's pregnant
and it's like what's going on?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
in here.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Why did you do that?
It's like, why are you takingher clothes off?
No, probably it's not what itlooks like.
All the cows are naked.
Yeah Jeez.
We learned that Luke has becomethe new leader of the fishes
and says that it's too dangerousto make it to the coast.
Theo thinks she needs propercare and that she should be like
, go to the government orsomething.
Be like, hey, let's get thisfigured out?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Yeah, because I'm.
If there's a pandemic thatmakes people infertile, you
would want them to like if theyknow that there's a baby, they
would protect this shit, butthey're also right when they say
that they would probably liketake the baby and give it to
someone who is not an immigrant.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Yeah, there's too, there's too much risk involved
in like let's take it to someonethat we know will try to
actually find a cure and notprobably just kill her and put
her in a camp or something andtake the baby and hope that baby
gets fertile.
Yeah and just use it forpolitical gains?
Or just like scienceexperiments, I don't know Like I
mean key could end up, but thekey should be the one being

(59:23):
experiment on.
Yeah, so you probably stillshouldn't go there either.
Not good, either way, nothingis good.
It's like we know anything.
Government probably doesn'thave you know the person's.
Uh, no, never health in mind,you know fuck um, uh, key
decides, uh, to stay safe at thehouse.

(59:46):
Um, after she has the baby, shewill decide to go to the human
project.
Um, but first she looks at.
So there's kittens.
Right, there's two kittens, ohno one of them's grabbing them.
Yeah, and why didn't you petthat something?
That maybe this is dumb andit's just because I think how my
cat does it like.
It's the kind of the time whenyou realize like, oh, this cat

(01:00:07):
really loves you when he startstrying to climb up your pants
and stuff.
And then I was like, becauseright before the cat starts
clawing up his pants, he asksit's like what do you think I
should do, theo?
And I was like, oh, she'sattached himself to him just
like this little cat did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
It's fucking metaphors baby, he doesn't pet
the cat.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
one time and I was- think that the scene cut and
he's like okay, come here littleguy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
He's like scorpion.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Get over here the way it is so that night Theo
eavesdrops on a meeting of Lukeand Patrick because Patrick was
on the motorcycle and he'spissed off because his brother,
I guess, or cousin, or whatever,was the one that got knocked
off.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah, he got hit by a car door yeah and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
So pretty much that guy dies because, like a little
later in the movie they'retalking about, it's like oh yeah
, we need to get him help.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
It's like he's not gonna make it, I know, but like
yeah, but right before this hewas like a theo, was like she
needs a doctor, and then they'relike, oh'll be fine.
And then this guy comes in andis like this dude needs a doctor
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
He's like yeah, we'll do that later, Don't worry,
he'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
It's like so you got a doctor somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
But so Theo eavesdrops on the meeting Luke
and other members and discoversthat Julian's death was
orchestrated Damn Luke.
So the group could use the babyas political tool to support
the coming revolution.
Those motherfuckers Damn it.
Like that's not going to solveanything.
No, it's not.
We need kids.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yeah, but that's like the bargaining chip, right?
If they've got a baby theycan't touch them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
We have a baby.
Everybody should be on our sidethis baby's gonna be dressed up
in all a lot of cute revolution.
I should have dropped it.
It's like you get to see likeif it went their way, the
fishies just like have all theirpamphlets, are just like a baby
holding like an ak-47 like aflag man, hell yeah, like damn
that baby's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
It's a badass baby got sunglasses on your fucking
orange skin.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Damn, what's that baby's name?
Bazooka Froli.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Hell yeah, man.
What a badass name.
It's a leader of the free world, right there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
That baby's going to grow up?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
slay a bunch of people President.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Bazooka and slay a bunch of pussy Ends up being a
girl.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
But it's a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yeah, they didn't know that Still can slay, yeah.
So Theo goes and wakes Key andMiriam up and they steal a car
and he sabotaged the rest ofthem and it ends up that he's
having to push their car thatthey picked so they can start.
This scene is stressful as hell.
That was fun.
That was fun, dude.
Just him trying to to like,just you know, take the keys and

(01:02:51):
then rip the other ones off.
I'm like I'm panicking.
He's also in no shoes at thispoint, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
That's going to be important later.
The moment he stepped out intothe puddle with socks, I was
like, ooh, this makes me reallyuncomfortable, you know, I know
some importance happening, butI'm going to go get some shoes.
I know I felt so.
This is the worst I feltthrough the entire movie.
Yeah, when I knew that he hadwet socks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
That is the fucking worst, hey, but get ready.
We're about to learn the reasonwhy they took his shoes off.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
So he couldn't run away and the metaphor for it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Were they like child kidnappers?
No, he just like.
He was just like woke up fromsleeping or whatever Right, and
then got out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Damn Shoes are important as hell.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Yeah, but I do love this whole scene because then
you have like Patrick justfucking booking it after that
car down the road.
He's so fast, he's like I'm notgoing to lose, I don't need a
motorcycle Because he's pissedoff at him.
He's like he killed my brother.
I got to get this car started.
It's like, of course, youpicked the wrong car.

(01:03:52):
The one car yeah, the one youprobably ripped the cords out of
, probably is a perfectlyworking car.
But it didn't have keys in it.
Yeah, so they escape tosecluded hideaway of Theo's
aging hippie friend, jasper.
It was funny when, when he wastrying to get away, and miriam's

(01:04:17):
he's like miriam's dude likecrank the car.
She's like push.
Yeah, well, I fucking am he.
He pushed it for like just alittle bit and she tries to
start.
He's like wait till we get somemoments.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
It's just like a bickering couple and like a
stressful moment of their liveshave you ever had to do this
with a vehicle?

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
no, uh, well, it's kind of fun, not with one of my
vehicles, but like, like I was akid in like one of my dad's
trucks.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I used to have an old truck, old Nissan truck.
I love that thing I just alwaysdid that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
You know it's so weird.
All old trucks eventually gotto the point where it's like we
only start going downhill.
I love whenever he like walksinto Jasper's house he thinks
he's dead.
Yeah, because there's a bunchof like bottles and it turns out
he's putting rat poison insideof bread.
It's the quietest.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
I love the quietest.
It's like the suicide pillsthat they give out in an
apocalypse or whatever, but Ilove.
The packaging was so nice yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
It's like ooh, Looked like a box of hymns or
something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Ooh suicide.
So good it's like ooh, looklike a box of hymns or something
.
Ooh, suicide, it's so good,it's so fun very smart that he
had it, though very smart.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Yeah, I feel like everybody probably got one right
yeah maybe they're just likehey guys, everybody that's a
citizen of the UK, we're sendingyou a box.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
If you're done, you're done if you hate
immigrants enough, you'll takethese pills, yeah well, it's
just like look, we get it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Things are about to get real hard here.
Everybody's got to free outright here, Hell yeah man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Well, it came with both suicide pills and SSRIs,
you know, like antidepressantmedications.
So like if you're not feelingquite like doing it yet, you can
wait, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Also, I don't remember if we learned it in the
movie because I don't rememberhearing it, but I did look up
like some like extra facts fromthe books.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
So jasper's wife is named janice, was tortured into
catatonia, oh yeah she wastortured by the yeah, because it
shows the clips, yeah, or thenewspaper clippings yeah I think
I missed a little bit of itbecause I'm like doing my notes
too, but I was like whathappened to her?

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
So I looked it up and it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, she
was tortured by, like, the MI6.
Yeah, or, like you know, yeah,for it's like essentially the
CIA.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Because they were probably both activists.
Yeah, I'm guessing Poor girl,but hey, at least she had a nice
husband, like Jane Goodall withthe apes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
She got tortured like hell.
She's probably like Jasper's isprobably like I don't.
I don't know if you can feelthe effects of weed, but I'm
just going to keep blowing it inher.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
She's just like blowing it in her face.
She's well, she can chew,though, so went catatonic, like
I know, she loves smoking weedman, you know how many bad jokes
she's probably just heardhanging out with this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
He seems like a bad joke type guy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
I know.
But so Jasper, he meets all ofthem, Miriam Key, he's like pull
my finger.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
She's like God, I can't anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
She anymore.
She just goes catatonic um.
But jasper is like superexcited that key's pregnant.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
He's like, let's fucking go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
You can obviously see them.
They're trying to formulate aplan.
Um, because you're like, well,we can't get to the coast now
because we're being like trackedby the fishes and stuff.
And he's like, oh, I have anidea.
And I just love how excitedjasper is and michael kane's so
good in this movie.
I love, love Michael Caine,because the plan is they're
going to board the human projectship, the Tomorrow, which will

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arrive on shore offshore fromthe Bexhill Refuge Camp, and
Jasper proposes getting campguard Sid, played by Peter
Mullen.
You may know him from eitherthe movie Session 9 or
Trainspotting Interesting, yeah,that's where you gotta start,
really.
And Sid's gonna smuggle them in, as he's had dealings with him

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in the past, as in gave him someof that dank-ass weed that
strawberry cough.
From there they can take arowboat and rendezvous with the
tomorrow.
So we also get a little bit, sosomething that in this movie he
goes he's trying on all hisshoes.

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Yeah, what does he get?
Sandals, flip flops, flip flops, hmm.
I wonder when they what era inAmerican in world history?
People wore flip flops a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I bet Noah would have , oh man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Are you saying?

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
It's religious allegories.
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
I mean I just like it's got to be.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
He doesn't really have them for that long.
Well, he has them all the wayup until after the birth you
pick the worst shoe to fit in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
yeah, yeah, it's the worst, um, because then he's
like he goes out and oh, andthen, after they got their plan,
but I feel like this I'm gonnadie the same way jasper does.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah, just telling a bad dad joke.
Yeah, it's gonna be so bad thatsomeone's just gonna say, fuck
it, you're dead now yeah, um andso, and then you got, uh, key
and theo.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
They're starting to kind of get along, uh, and this
is kind of where I was like oh,he's just like a regular girl,
she's just like living in thislife, and all of a sudden he's
like fuck, I have so muchresponsibility now, yeah,
because she's got to only belike 18 19 years old and this is
where we learn that she's gonnaname her kid froli and theo's
like what all right?

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First kid ever, and its name'sgonna be at least it's not like
bladen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Yeah, some bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Blue ivory fucking nevaeh all right, so what's like
a name you've always want toname a kid?
Uh, well, madeline, my first islike growing up I always loved
that the name is there like aname that you wanted to do, but
your wife was like no, jason notreally.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
I mean you when you miss prime, yeah, when you, when
you're going through names.
It's really tough because,because you go through those
names off the bat, yeah, andboth of you are like no.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Yeah, that sucks ass.
I've always wanted to name akid Arizona.
That's a cool name.
And we call him Ari for short.
Yeah, because A-R-I that's acool last name it's because I
love the song.
I love the movie RaisingArizona.
I love the song.
I love the movie RaisingArizona.
Yeah, and the song from Kingsof Leon, arizona, hell, yeah.
And I was like, even when I waslike in college I was like,
yeah, that's what I'd name a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah, like my son.
We named him Sawyer because Ialways loved the name Sawyer.
Yeah, like growing up, it'sgreat Like Tom Sawyer.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
One of the best characters in Lost and then lost
.
Yeah, the lost guy.
Just hope he doesn't turn outto be like him from Lost.
That'd be the worst possibleoutcome.
So, jasper and Miriam, they gethigh hell.
Yeah, we're talking about UFOs.
At some point gets brought upyeah, do you really see UFOs?
See that's like another likepretty funny part, but it's like
happened and they're safe andthey're not.
So it's like oh, they can kindof let off some steam they're
eating and stuff.
They kind of high talk aboutfaith and chance.

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Jester talks about Theo, julianand Dylan.
Julian and Theo met among amillion protesters in a rally by
chance, but they were therebecause of what they believed in
the first place their faith.
They wanted to change the worldand their faith kept them
together.
But by chance, dylan was bornand died yeah, from faith.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Yeah, chance killed him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
This kind of whole thing.
I put down the quote, eventhough I pretty much said much.
Let's see what is it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Well, yeah, he was killed by chance because of the
flu.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
COVID-19.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
His line is like chance.
He, he was their sweet littledream.
He had little hands, littlelegs, little feet, little lungs,
and in 2008, along came the flupandemic.
And then, by chance, he wasgone.
See, theo's faith lost out tochance.
So so why bother if life isgoing to make its own choices?
Baby's got Theo's eyes, damn.

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That's why, whenever he saidbaby's got Theo's eyes and you
just see.
Clive Owen.
He's just like.
You can just see the pain onhis face.
It's like I don't know, I don'tknow, I don't know, I'm going
to cry.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Yeah, like when Key said that, I was like oh, I
guess, if you know you're aboutto die and then, like Miriam,
says, oh boy, that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
But you know, everything happens for a reason,
jasper, that I don't know, orhe says that I don't know, but
Theo and Julian would alwaysbring Dylan he loved it here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Yeah, their house is great.
I would go there all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Jasper, I bet he's got Mario Kart he fucking, he
had a Nintendo 64 in thereplaying like the GoldenEye game.
Yeah, it's like Jasper's likeyou wouldn't believe this, but
the actor that's playing yourfather would be almost cast as

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James Bond at one point butanyways, theo wakes up, wait,
michael.
Caine was almost cast.
No people.
One of the before Daniel Craiggot cast, clive Owen was in the
running, oh gotcha, and it waskind of like between him and
those two actors and one otherperson.
He'd have been a great JamesBond, I think.
I was actually kind of rootingfor him.
I didn't know who Daniel Craigwas at that point because I was

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young, so Theo wakes up to theinsane alarms that Jasper has
ripped up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Yeah, I love the whenever he's like he was there
before and they were smokingweed and he's like, oh, your
head's hurting.
Yeah, you wouldn't mind alittle light zen music and it's
like that fucking crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
It's like some wild, it's like something that, what's
it?
Yoko Ono?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Yes, oh man Awful.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Which, hey, you never guess who.
Michael Caine based hischaracter off of John Lennon.
Oh yeah, I could get.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So the fishes trail the groupand Jasper stays behind to stall
them giving thegovernment-issued suicide drug
Quietus to his catatonic wife.
It's fucking sad.
The song Ruby Tuesday's playing, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
It makes it even sadder, yeah I was like damn.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
I immediately went and like, liked the song on
spotify to make sure it pops upat some point in my life um a
horrified theo witnesses.
The fishes kill him beforeescaping with miriam and key.
They didn't like his pull myfinger oh, but they didn't of
course they're trying to if theyjust would have pulled his
finger.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Yeah, he might have told and then shot him like make
the man happy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
It really sucked like .
So originally he's supposed todie, I think in the book he dies
by, like being attacked bytheir dogs.
Oh yeah, so worse, which isworse than what happens in him,
which is also really sucks.
When they shot him again, I waslike just kill him.
I know because they shot him inthe leg and the hand and
they're finally like oh, thisguy just wants to spread his

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fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
They're just bad at aiming or trying to get him to
say where they went.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
They're just torturing him.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
But then they just kill him without getting any
answers, Like what was the point?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
They're inexperienced at torture.
All of what's happening ispointless.
People are being dumb, so wecut to them, stopped out of
school, where Miriam tells herstory.
She was a midwife who slowlynoticed how everyone was losing
their babies.
She says she was there at theend.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Theo tells her now she can be there at the
beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Finally she won't, yeah, she doesn't make it.
But yeah, I just loved when shesaid it's like because they had
like a book of like you knowhow long the pregnancies went
and stuff.
And he said once we got to likemonth seven, there was never
any names and I was like give mechills, damn.
I was like man, I don't knowthis movie, just it fucking got
me into it yeah it's really goodat that.

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It's got every aspect of whatmakes a movie good.
It's insane the existentialdread, yeah.
So he's really good at that.
It's got every aspect of whatmakes a movie good.
It's insane, the existentialdread, yeah.
So later they meet Sid, whoseems scary and talks in third
person.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Yeah, I like Sid a lot Because it's like you're a
fascist Before Jasper dies.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
he's like make sure you tell him he's a fascist pig.
And then he pretends, say itagain, yeah, and he like Sid,
pretends that he's pissed offabout it and is about to hit him
ah, funny joke.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Yeah, I was just so mad at him yeah, I'm like god
damn it, sid.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
God damn it, sid.
I hope I get to kill you later.
Um, and yeah, so Sid transports.
He talks in third person.
It's crazy.
I know it's great.
Um, he transports them to a busthat will transport them to
Beck's Hill.
It's like all right, guys, it'stime to get out.
And at this point she's havingcontractions.
He is yeah, and he's likewhat's wrong with her?

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He's like, oh, she's just sick,sick, don't vomit, it's bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Can't get the smell out.
Yeah, but I do like, like, whatis their plan, their plan, into
this refugee camp in order toget to a place that the human
project picks people up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Yeah, so the human project is picking people up, I
guess out in the water Rightoutside of Warthogs.
Hill and it's like, and there'sno way to contact them.
Something we learned soon isthat so they can't contact them
and they have no idea if they'reeven going to show up.
This guy you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Hope, faith not chance it's hope and faith.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
So yeah, I guess that's the point.
This is where they meet.
So I guess it's where ifrefugees want to try to get off
the, out of the place, I don'tknow, hopefully 100%.
I don't understand.
Maybe the book goes a littlebit more.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
I do love Marika.
Marika, she's great, she'sgreat Romani woman, she a homie
little annoying ass dog.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Yeah, but something funny that Sid does is like all
right, everybody put on yourFuji face sad.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Fuji face.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
I know Sid's a great character.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Yeah, sucks at the end yeah, I really, I really was
.
I was rooting for him, reallywanted to be a good guy.
I know Sid's a great character.
Yeah, sucks at the end.
Yeah, I really was I wasrooting for him.
Really wanted him to be a goodguy, I know.
So as they enter Beck's Hill,key water breaks and begins
having contractions on a bus.
Suddenly, a guard enters thebus to select people for
execution.
When he notices Key hurting,miriam obstructs the guard and
is taken away.
Theo fools him into thinkingKey just soiled herself, after

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which the guard leaves her alone.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
He's like I was going to kill her, but not if she
smells a pee.
Yeah, I do like how Theopretended to be a refugee.
Yeah, because if they wouldhave noticed that he was
speaking British normally theywould have thought something was
up, I guess, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Also whenever they're coming in.
Being on the bus is where youget like the, where people are
essentially being in cages andtortured, essentially, yeah,
that fucking sucks, which wassomething that was happening
like during the Iraq War, andthat's where he got the idea.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Oh damn, I would have hated to be one of those dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
In charge of the prisoners.
Yeah Well, they the prisoners.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Yeah Well, they seem to enjoy it.
That's awful.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
They seem to be really into it.
They seem to love beinghorrible yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
I think that's kind of what war does.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Yep, it makes you bad yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
So then, we're along with them.
They're being pushed off thebus and they're being put into
the camp like cattle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Essentially.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Like all through those cages?

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Yeah, the maze and the camps.
They seem to have no rules inthese camps and they just kind
of roam and do whatever theywant.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
So once you go through the little gate, yeah,
it's on your own, you're in yourown world now.
But it was interesting wheneverthey first walked in and
everyone's I mean, I imaginethis is what happens when you
get to prison as a new prisonerfor like your first time,
because they they're like hey,you need food, you need a place
to stay.
Yeah, try to immediately getyou in there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Yeah, yeah, oh, it's like you have no idea where
they're going to be taking you.
No, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
They're going to you.
No, yeah, they're gonna dostuff to you, yeah, so at the
camp, theo and key meet marocca.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
What's her name?
Marika, marika, marika, yeah,marika well, I'm gonna call her
that who provides a room wherekey gives birth to a girl with
the help of theo?
Um, yeah, it's, it's kind oflike a kind of a nice scene.
Honestly, it's like it's reallystressful and but he like knew
what he.
Honestly, it's like it's reallystressful.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
But he like knew what he was doing.
So it's like you felt kind ofcalm, you just kind of catch
right, yeah, yeah.
I mean she has to do everything.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
And then, like the little baby pops out, it's a
little CGI baby.
That looks actually prettydecent for a CGI baby.
I feel like I know it.
I bet it was cold.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Theo Key, see, it wasn't that bad she's like not
for you, Not for you, you bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
That's great, but it's like a really happy moment.
She finally had her kid and itwas relatively.
It was uninterrupted.
She got there and it was allfine.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Just for one night though.
She had a really easy timegiving birth.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Yeah, that thing just popped right on out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Yep, she's young, I guess and like it was kind of
funny to me when they were thesheep her water breaks on the
bus and then like they're like,oh no, the baby's coming.
But like really what happens?
It's like your water breaks andthen you've got like 12 or 14
hours of intense, like painbefore any kind of baby comes
out or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Yay, fun Sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Birth is not quick.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Yeah, that's something that was definitely a
line in movies growing upBecause that's the signal for
birth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Right, the water breaking and then like, oh, no,
baby's coming out in like twoseconds.
It's a lot of anguish beforethat birth.
Right, the water breaking andthen like, oh no, baby's coming
out in like two seconds, Nope,it's a lot of anguish before
that, yeah, a lot of ice chips.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
So the next day Sid comes in.
He informs Theo and Key that awar between the army and the
refugees, including the fishes,has begun.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
And they just slept through it.
Yeah, I mean they're exhausted,I mean they haven't they've
kind of been through a lot.
Yeah, Um, uh but he then noticesthe baby.
Oh, sid, I love it when Sidsees the baby.
Yeah, he's like, oh no, but itwas just so funny to see, like

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as a like a man, seeing like ababy for the first life,
especially with me, whenever mybabies were born and the first
time they come out, like myfirst one, they hand it to you
and you're like, oh fuck, yeah,what don't give me this, what do
I do with this?
What do I do?
What do I Take it back?

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Yeah, but so Riga is just like hey, don't go with him
, don't go with him, bad guy,don't go.
He then reveals that Theo andKey have a bounty on their heads
and attempts to capture them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Theo subdues Sid.
With help from Marika, shebeats the fuck out of him with
like a table leg.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Yeah, I love this lady and like they're kind of
running out and there's a doorthat's kind of jammed, like
they're slowly all getting out,key hands the baby to Marika,
and it's like she's taking mybaby.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yeah, you think she's going to run off, but then she
immediately comes in because itturns out this lady is a saint.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
I love her.
And then, like, he's trying toget out and Sid's got back up
and he's got his gun.
It's very stressful, yeah.
And then they get out, and thenSid comes through the door Fuck
yeah, man Just whacks the shitout of him like a giant piece of
concrete, yeah, just like apiece of rubble.
Just blasts his face Great, andnow our hero is shoeless again

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as well, because he stepped onsome glass.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
That sucks, yeah.
So they walk through the streetwhere Immediately like he steps
on a Lego.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
It's like there's no kids.
Why do we?
Even have Legos.
Yeah, what the fuck.
Yeah.
So they walk through the streetwhere a rally is happening.
I see that there's multiplecountries, it's not just one.
It looked like an Islam one.
Yeah, it looked like a.
Then we saw some French flags,sure, and then the group briefly
takes shelter with Marika'sfriends.
It just seemed like some oldguy, an old woman that they knew

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.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Yeah, I wonder if it was like her parents or
something.
Ooh, maybe Could be.
Yeah, maybe be yeah, maybebecause yeah, but they like
they're loving this baby, yeah,key it's like they love my baby.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
It's like, yeah, dude , they haven't seen one in 20
years um key says she's going toname it her baby bazooka.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Yeah, he's like I just got used to frolic.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
It's like that's a.
That's not a girl's name.
I don't know what that name isI'm gonna Axe.
That sounds more like a name fora frog, froli or like some sort
of fro-yo, oh tasty Flavor.
But then a man comes in andsays they have a boat for them,
but they'll have to wait an hour.
Theo then notices men on therooftops Heading for the rowboat

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.
This is when, like, the scorekicks in and it sounds like a
horror movie.
Yeah, they see the battles inthe streets.
They are ambushed by thefishies Sounds ridiculous.
Who capture Key and the baby?
Luke orders his man mainlyPatrick because he's ready to
kill yeah, to kill Lithio.
But Patrick really only getsone shot off and kills the guy

(01:25:15):
that comes in.
Fuck, luke, man, fuck you Luke.
I thought you were cool.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
I know, and then you were not cool, and then you're
really not cool.
In this moment we're like waittill we get around the corner.
Don't let the, don't let thewoman see.
You murder all these people.
Yeah, so he's like oh well,because it's like he bit that we

(01:25:40):
didn't just kill him, man,because he's got to have key,
trust her so that they can be apart of the group, I know, but
it's so, fuck you man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Yeah, shit, and it's just, I don't know it.
Uh, that actor um, I'm notgonna say his name because I'm
gonna butcher it.
He's like such a good actor andhe plays this type of character
very good.
It's almost like he's in abunch of movies and he plays
like almost this very similarvillain.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Yeah, because you don't think he's in a bunch of
movies and he plays like almostthis.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
He's a great villain yeah, because you don't think
he's going to be and you feellike you can trust him, but you
can't ever.
Yeah, he's also in um love.
Actually, where, what is he?
He's the um.
You know the worst part of thatmovie where you got the guy
from walking dead and kiraknightley.
It's the whole like hold thesign up, pretend that there's a

(01:26:21):
choir out here.
It's a sign.
Hey, I've always loved you,whatever.
Well, he's her husband damn.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Okay, I know, like Serenity, he's like this type of
character who, like you, kindof like him, but he's so evil.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
He's great at playing that.
So Patrick goes to murderMarika and Theo, but the British
troops attack Theo, attractsthe fishes to an apartment.
He's essentially just followingPatrick to where they're going,
because there's like tankseverywhere, it's just absolute
chaos.
It's fucking amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Yeah, it's a cool ass scene when he's trying to get
through the street through allthe fire.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
I mean this has got to be like the best scene to
depict the terror of what it'slike during street level war and
being a refugee during wartimeright.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Yeah, because they're just shooting blindly into
these buildings full of innocentpeople.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
People just living man.
You already put them in camps.
Leave them alone.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
But like even the, the uprising people, they're not
great either, because they'rejust they're killing civilians
too.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Everybody sucks, and everybody that's in the middle
of it is just like I don't know.
They're just fodder.
Yeah, fodder, because we're all.
We all care so much that wedon't care who.
We kill God Like wild.
I don't know, it's annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
World sucks.
Everything's hard andeverything sucks yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Amen.
But yeah, this whole scene'sgreat.
They're going through the busand they're like being shot.
I had the tanks rolling up thegiant building being shot where
Key is and it's like, oh no, didshe die?
And it's all from likefollowing.
It's like a third person videogame from this where you're
falling right behind Clive Owen,fuck yeah they slayed this guy.
If you're just listening to thisbecause you like the movie you

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haven't seen in a while, justrewatch it, just feel everything
.
So, theo, he's able to make itall the way up into that
building that was gettingexploded.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
And it's just constantly having gunfire shot
at it, trying to get away fromthat one guy.
Yeah, Patrick Dreadlock guy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Yeah, guy won't give up.
But then he just, you know,like Theo didn't even get to
shoot him, he just dies in themiddle of the war.
And it's just like that's whathappens.
Hell yeah dude Not everything'slike this heroic big battle
moment.
That's, I think, what I likeabout how it's like hey, here's
how random this stuff is.
You just die.
No one gets to kill each otherbecause some random Joe Blow is

(01:28:52):
just going to kill them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
I love the scene between Luke and Theo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Yes, right, luke and Theo are here when he rescues.
Key.
Yeah, theo confronts Luke, whoeventually gets killed in an
explosion.
But you have Luke.
Julian was wrong.
She thought it could bepeaceful, but how can it be?

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
peaceful when they try to take away your dignity,
yeah, but he's also taking awayher dignity, yeah, and he's
holding him hostage.
Basically, he's getting shot,shot at firing back and then
like, whenever they try to leave, he's like no, we need that
baby.
Yeah, we need that baby?

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
no, I mean, I guess he's just like it, couldn't it?
So, from his point of view,like the way that he thought
Julian was going to do it, oh,we're going to take him to the
human people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
And things are going to change.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Yeah, things are going to change, but from his
viewpoint it's like that's nothow this works.
Right, that's not.
We need violence this isn'tgoing to work that way.
We have to start a revolution.
Yeah, and like, from hisperspective, they took away our
dignity.
We can't just let them like,things can't just go back to
normal.
We have to overtake them and wehave to do it better.
I think that's what hisperspective is in all this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Sure, yeah, he totally just did not think about
, like theo's suggestion of justmake it public.
Yeah, tell people that we havea baby like give people
everything well, yeah, givepeople hope everything.
Maybe we'll all just startworking together now.
And he's like fuck no we needbullets.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
I guess from like Luke's perspective on that, it's
like okay, so we give the babyto the government.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
That's what he's afraid of.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
And then only wealthy people are able to make babies.
Oh yeah, and then?

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
all these refugees and then, it's just the
handmaid's tale.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Ah, and it's just the handmaid's tale.
Yeah, ah, so, but I thinkJulian's answer was right.
Hey, let's find the cure, curepeople, and the government's
like shit, people can havebabies again.
Well, I guess we got to fall inline.
Yeah, we'll apologize later.
Yeah, I guess.
So I don't know, it's a tricky.
It's tricky.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
That's what makes it such a good story, yeah, and
like it's the same thing withthe Last of Us, Like the
uprising was trying to cureeverything, but the only way to
cure it was to kill the girlthat was immune.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
And then it's like we don't want her to die.
Yeah, we love her.
Yeah, she's great.
What are we?
Why are we going to do this?
But then it's I know, I knowthis is a hard decision.
Great show okay, even bettervideo game, so um.
So Theo, he was able to get toKey, takes her away.

(01:31:26):
Um, there's like a bigexplosion.
That's how Luke dies.
They get up, she says yes, umasks about the baby.
How is she Key annoying?

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
she's annoyed.
Yeah, at all the gunfire,probably.
Well, I think he.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
I think she was calling the baby annoying
because this isn't crying.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
No, she just said annoyed, like the baby is
annoyed.
I thought she said the baby wasannoying and I was like welcome
to welcome to parenthood yeah,she's always crying.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
And then Theo escorts Kiki and the baby out.
All the refugees are likethey're hearing the baby crying
and everybody's like coming outof nowhere.
They're all like trying totouch its foot.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Like all bullets, like stop, like everyone stops
fighting.
Yeah, and like for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
When he goes down like he's going downstairs and
the fishes come up and they drawtheir weapons on him, he's like
, oh, and they just continuerunning up and then the army
comes up to me and he's like,they're like what the?

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
holy shit yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
And they all stopped fighting and allowed the trio to
leave.
I thought I was like when Ifirst watched it.
I was like they going to grabthat baby, but are you kidding
me?
No soldier wants to have a babyin their arms, that's true, be
a hell of a picture though sothen, marika leads them to the

(01:32:47):
boat, but stays behind as theydepart, and I love that.
They're so grateful for her.
They're like come on, get onthe boat, get on the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
I wish you would have kinda.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Yeah, because we're about to see what happens as
British fighter jets conductairstrikes on Beck's Hill,
killing pretty much everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
I can only assume.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Theo and Key row to the rendezvous point in heavy
fog.
I love when they stop.
He's like what a day.
Theo reveals that he was shotand wounded by Luke earlier.
He teaches Key how to burp herbaby.
I'm like crying at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
But he calls it wind it.
He's like you got to wind it.
Yeah, it's probably someBritish shit.
Yeah, it's some Britishnomenclature, I'm sure I'm sure
that's what they say.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Cut it on the back?
Yeah, it's because they justfed their kid beans and bread.
It's a bit windy of a baby,isn't it Full of wind?
De-wind it stop feeding thebeans.
Yeah, it's a baby.
And the part where I completelylose my shit cause she tells
him she will name the baby girl.
Dylan after his son and you cansee that he's like slowly

(01:33:49):
starting to die and it's justlike, oh, it's like aw.
And then Theo smiles, thenloses consciousness as the
tomorrow approaches, as thescreen cuts to black, with
children's laughter being heard,saying that it all worked out,
yay, yay, children live orsomething I'm just like trying
to figure it out.
I'm like really sad Because I'mjust like I don't remember this

(01:34:11):
movie being so beautiful andaffecting to me when I was
little.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Yeah, and it like, and she's the whole time she's
dressed like mary.
Right, yeah, the jesus mary isshe, because she's, she's just
in the like, almost like ablanket.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayinglike it's a robe type thing and
she's kind of like, and thenpeople are like looking at her
and like dropping through theirknees and doing the whole like

(01:34:36):
crossing their chest and stuff.
Yeah, like a super religiousmoment, yeah, which is weird,
but like I love when they putlike they do the stuff without
movies.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
I know it's like I don't know, because you know
whether you don't believe in itor not.
I mean, the stories were kindof rad.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Yeah, it still represents like the hope of
humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Which was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Yeah, and it's great.
I just love it's like a movieabout chaos in the streets.
Yeah, man Into the world.
But it's essentially like it'sall about these few people that
came together and, with the helpand kindness of some other
people, they're able to save theworld.
We should just do that.
Every leader should just belike nice and stuff and good

(01:35:17):
people.
No like no.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Like if everybody was just nice to each other.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
I think this is all worked out and wouldn't been
nearly as stressful, but how doyou get all the money, then if
you help people, you can haveall the money that's true.
That's the only thing.
I need to be a shitty person.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
I need to exploit somebody at some point, hell
yeah man, yeah, we can do it,yeah, we can do it, but that we
can do it, but that's children,man.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
So we're going to dive into one of our categories
the good, the bad, the ugly, thefine.
So we're going to discuss thegood of the film something we
liked the bad, something wedidn't.
The ugly something didn't agewell.
And the fine something that didage well.
I feel like when it comes tothese categories in this movie,
it's going to be pretty easy thegood, everything.
The bad nothing really I feellike the fun part's actually

(01:36:03):
just going to be kind of theugly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Yeah, but like so for my good, I just I loved the all
the.
They had a lot of uniquecharacters Jasper and Sid,
miriam, yeah, miriam, even thebad guy, Patrick, yeah, patrick,
like Patrick.
He Luke, right, or you'retalking about the dready?

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
yeah, the dred guy dready.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Yeah, and Luke's a great character and Luke's great
too, because what I like aboutLuke is like he's kind of like
righteous yeah, he reallybelieves, but it he's wrong.
Yeah, which is awful.
Well, it he really believes,but he's wrong yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Which is awful.
Well, it's kind of the classics, Like oh no, it's like you're
wanting to start a revolutionbut you're not doing it the
right way.
But really, has the governmentgiven you the other way to do it
other than this?
And Julian, which is probablylike the best, the nicest and
best person in the movie, islike we can do it my way and I'm
going to be right, Cause I'mJulianne Moore, Cause, even

(01:37:04):
though she's barely in the movie, I mean like her death sucked.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Her death did suck.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
But like with when you see, like leaders of
uprisings and movies like this,there's always something really
fucked up about them and Ibelieve but Julianne, she,
there's always something reallyfucked up about them and I
believe but Julianne she therewas a little bit of that at
first kind of have the fear thatshe's going to be really
corrupt.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Yeah, cause how we met her.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Yeah, exactly, and but then, like she turns out to
be kind of awesome and that'swhy she has to die.
Yeah, so Luke could take overand be the asshole.
So Luke could take over and bethe asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
Because whenever they capture Luke, to like bring him
to the fishes, like, I think,just as much as putting the
blind, like blindfolding them isnot just like, so they don't
see them, so the governmentdidn't see who they took.
Yeah, because then it'd be like, well, shit, now you're going
to be a target from them.
It's like, hey, it's not a badthing that you're blindfolded,
even though it came off as likea terrible thing.
I don't.
It's like, hey, it's not a badthing that you're blindfolded,
even though it came off as likea terrible thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
They're trying to scare him,they're trying to intimidate him
.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
My good, other than just everything.
I'm going to just like.
The cinematography in thismovie and how it's shot is maybe
like one of the best thingsI've ever seen in my life.
Yeah, there were some reallyincredible shots.
It's like everything wasamazing, amazing looking, yeah.
I really liked like all thedystopian stuff and even like
the fog at the end when they'rein the boat and the jets are
coming in and you just see thebombs exploding just in the fog,

(01:38:26):
the skyscraper, yeah, or theskyline of the area that got hit
, and it's just like flashingand it's like scary hell.
But it was such a cool but, inlike, with that that being very
scary, like a minute or twolater the same area is beautiful
, just for like if you have thecity in the back of the camera,
not facing the city but facingforward to where the ship comes

(01:38:48):
out, oh yeah, and then you gotlike just kind of a great shot
of one guy dead on the boat, thegirl and her baby, the buoy and
the ship slowly coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
It's like of course this looks amazing, it was
fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
It's just weird how like, how much horror was in
like one shot and them in thesame exact place.
There's like hope, oh yeahright, it's beautiful, the buoy.
You get the light blinking thatwas cool and it didn't look
like shit.
Marijuana movies didn't looklike shit all the time isn't
that crazy.
Oh, that's wild.
What did we do um the bad?

(01:39:20):
For me, nothing.
I mean like in terms of likehey, they shouldn't have done
this in this movie.
I don't really see anything.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
The bad is like that this is all happening, kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
That's the other way that was the ugly for me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
I was like um well, this is an easy ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
This is not aging well because it's happening.
Yeah, it's like a lot of thingshave happened.
We've had multiple big flus andit seems like everybody's kind
of torn in.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Are we going to a police station Like oh man?

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
so scary.
Yeah, I'm just going to stayhome and just watch TV during it
.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Yeah, just don't think about it like his brother.
Yeah, it'd be a lot easier notto think about if, uh, I was
rich.
Yeah, it's a lot easier.
I feel like money makes thingsa lot easier.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Yeah, sometimes, yeah , so that's.
That's definitely my ugly.
How scary this movie is, yes,how possible it might be scary.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Oh, I've couldn't watch it all the way.
First she's like this isgetting too real.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Yeah yeah, uh, has she never seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
no, she had okay, but like it was a long time ago, I
was just like, force her towatch the second half then she
needs to see how good this is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
We all see the writing on the wall.
Yeah, so do you got anythingelse for your ugly?
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
no, not really.
Um, mainly the the crisis wefeel every day.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Yeah, just living L-I-V-I-N, that's how Matthew
McConaughey said A lot cooler ifyou did so.
What aged well for you?
Dystopia.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Yeah, you know Movies , dystopian movies, yeah, the
whole police state, martial lawkind of stuff.
It's so fucked up and crazy.
It just really makes you thinkand it's cool to see something
we should learn from.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
We have so much art about this stuff, but yet we
just don't listen to it becauseyou never think it's going to
happen, like the frog in theboiling water don't talk about
frogs.
The frog in the boiling wateryeah, don't talk about frogs.
Okay, the crab in the boilingwater, you're just eating while
the water's getting hot.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
You don't even know you're going to boil it alive.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Ugh.
Well, my find was, you knowwhat Never give up hope, guys.
That's true.
That's what I took from thismovie and that's why H Will can
never give up, or just don't payattention.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Never surrender.
Do not go quietly into thenight.
Yes, all right, we're going tohit our next category, which is
double feature.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
This is where we pick a movie that goes alongside
this movie and would make a hellof a double feature.
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Well, it's not a movie, but it's a series.
The Last of Us from the videogame.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
We brought it up multiple times.
Yes, bet you didn't see thatone coming.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
If you haven't seen it, please watch it, it's so fun
.
Or if you haven't played it,yeah, the game is even better,
play it.
The game is much better thanthe show.
It's even more fun.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
It is really Because when you watch the beginning of
season one, of the Last of Us,and you're like, oh, I love all
the mushroom-headed zombies.
And then, in the second half ofthe season, you're like where'd
they go?
Well, that was because theycared more about the characters.
But if you want to see more ofthem, play the video game.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Yeah, I think the opening of the video game is one
of the most traumatic.
Yeah, I think the opening ofthe video game is one of the
most traumatic, interestingthings ever.
Hey, bro, get ready for seasonfucking two.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
I guarantee you that first season, that first episode
, will have you crying.
And for people online who didnot like the second game, well,
I don't know what to tell youguys.
I have a heart.
I have a heart.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
even know what happens in the second season.
Don't say it out loud.
Or don't say if you do, theseason or the game, or the game.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
I mean, I've played part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
I haven't finished it .
Oh, so then you probably got tothe point where everybody kind
of freaked out.
Just don't worry about it,we'll talk about it later.
I decided to pick the movieSnowpiercer.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
Ooh yeah, hell yeah, Fucking love that movie In a
future where it failed.
The show is good too.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
Oh, I haven't seen the show.
I do love the movie.
It's Bong Joon-ho who didParasite, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
But this was before Parasite.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah Like .

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
It's a bad there's not 10 years.
It's really interesting howthey they cultivate insects for
food.
Yeah, like we're getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
Yeah, and it's essentially in a future where
failed climate change experimenthas killed all life, except for
the survivors who boarded theSnowpiercer, a train that
travels around the globe, thepeople who took Marjorie Taylor
Greene's advice yeah, seated allthe clouds.
Yeah, but essentially they're.
They're on a train and it'slike a class system, like the
poor people are at the back andthe further you go up, the
wealthier you get.

(01:44:02):
You can kind of see how itreflects.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
Yeah, it's fucking cool.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
It's more of a Child sacrifices.
It's also more it's not asheart-wrenching as Children of
Men is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
It is a fun-ass movie though.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Yeah, it's very fun.
It's got great action and it'sby another one of our great
directors.
Yeah, check those out.
It's got Chris Evans in it, ifI need to say more, and Tilda
Swinton, who Well, I mean, needI say more, even more?

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Ed Harris.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
Need I even say more?

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Stop saying things, john Hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Should I say Stop saying things, John Hurt.
Should I continue?

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Quit it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
All right, but that is our episode on Children of
Men.
We're going to switch things upbecause we did.
No Country for Old Men, damnbummer.
Children of Men, a damn bummer,but two maybe of the greatest
movies ever made?

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
So we're going to go a completely't know.
So we're gonna go completelydifferent area where we're gonna
get pumped the fuck up, baby,because we're doing Rocky 2 and
nothing gets me more pumped upthan watching a Rocky movie.
If you haven't seen it, you'rea crazy person, jason.
You haven't seen it, have you?
he's a crazy person but not muchlonger.
Yeah, watch Rocky 2.

(01:45:21):
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sure to join us for that.
Also, leave us some reviews,y'all.
We're getting more followers,it's so much fun.
Every week.
It's almost like we're startingto get like one follower, and
then the next week we might getanother follower.

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Tell your friends, right,because, who knows, maybe the
apocalypse is coming, so atleast make us feel good for it,
right?
But say nice things about us,please, and if you don't have
anything nice to say, still justgive us five stars.
Yay, yeah.
Because you're a monster, thoughit'd be weird If you listened
to this Entire episode and waslike I hate this, it's like a

(01:46:02):
figure you might cut it off Likehalfway through, right, and I
could see this Actually episodeGetting a lot of Negative
reviews Just based on.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
I feel like we spilled A little bit of
political beans On our toast.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Damn.
Sounds so yummy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Oh, I feel so good about my beans and toast
reference again, um, uh.
Also, if you want to send ussome fan mail, if you want to
tell us what you think about themovie, and I don't know, just
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We recommend, at mail mailbagat gmailcom, mess that up, um,

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You can follow him on X at MrJoey Prosser, and this has been
the God dang we Recommendpodcast.
I've been Jesse.
I've been Jason.
Hey, dogs don't usually like me.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Have some babies, bye .

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