Cloverfield

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, jason.
So we have to discuss our intro.
Oh man, intro to what?
Our podcast.
So I kind of get a lot of shitabout the way I say hello, hello
, like Mrs Doubtfire.
Well, no, that was probably.
If anything, that's probablyeverybody's favorite hello.
I've done, but I always kind ofget crap about the way I say

(00:21):
hello and welcome to the it'sjust hello is a weird thing to
say.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I don't know Apparently well, it's just.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I guess I don't ever say my voice kind of.
I guess it's weird to say in anenthusiastic way, hello and
welcome.
I don't know, so I'm going tocut out the hello.
So I guess we can start thepodcast.
You ready, I was born ready,all right.
Well, I guess we can start thepodcast.
You ready, I was born ready,all right?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, I just want to say hello, so bad, just get it
out.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
It feels weird.
I feel like I need to welcomemy friends.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Hey, hello.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Or maybe, hey, welcome to the we Recommend.
I don't know, but I think I'mjust going to start by saying
welcome to the we Recommendpodcast, a movie podcast, where
every week we recommend a moviefor you to watch and then come
back here and listen to usdiscuss.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason.
Okay, just to be clear here,our options are die here, die in
the tunnels or die in thestreets.

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That's pretty much it.
That's pretty much it Becausethis week we recommend
Cloverfield.
Yeah, boy, so Godzilla's likeugly cousin.

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It's like a tick that drankGodzilla's blood and then like
grew, damn, yeah, likeradioactive blood.
It kind of has like a tick-likefeature, I feel like to me,
like the little ticks it dropsoff its back.
I love those guys.
Those guys can party with meanytime.
I love the little parasites.
It's kind of crab-like.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, they're awesome .
They kind of remind me of theStarship Trooper bugs.
Yeah, they do, don't they?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
They're really small but like small versions of them
with, like I love their littlemouths, their little beady eyes.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
And they make your body explode.
Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's like are they impregnating them?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Are they just?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
like Maybe their bite kind of reacts to our bodies
and fills us with gas and fluids, and then your stomach explodes
.
Hell yeah, Lizzie Kaplan manRIP.
Sorry girl.
Sorry, you died in this movie.
She's an amazing actress.
She always has small parts ofherself.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, she's the lead actor.
She's got top billing in themovie, yeah Well she's.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's actually funny.
The lead character Rob is MikeVogel and Lizzie Kaplan both
show up in New Girl.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Very, I think like the same episodes.
They got rubbled, they got.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Barney rubbled.
Rob Shrey did, rob Shrey did, Ithink.
Well, who's in the CloverfieldLane?
That is Elizabeth MaryElizabeth Winstead.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Was she in this?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
movie no.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
That is a.
I kept thinking it was one ofthe survivors.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
So I guess let's talk about how they've completely
fucked up the franchise, right.
So there's Cloverfield.
This came out.
Everybody's like oh my God,there's all.
I don't know if you rememberthe trailer for this.
No, did you go see Transformers?
The first Transformers?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
movie when it came out.
Oh, yeah, yeah, megan.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Fox, Also a new girl that I'm watching.
It just got done with her setof series.
So the cool thing about this,they dropped this perfect
trailer.
Right, You're watching thetrailers for Transformers.
Me and my buddy's like I can'twait to see Transformers, even
though I'm not the biggestTransformers guy Can't wait to
watch it.
There's some shitty trailersprobably.

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I'd assume Probably an Iron mantrailer, dark Knight trailer,
whatever.
And then next thing, you know,it's like whoa, there's this
found footage thing, there'ssomething crazy.
And next thing, you know, youjust see the fucking Statue of
Liberty's head there.
You, you see something sayinglike oh my gosh, it's huge, it's
alive.
And you're like what the fuckare you talking about?
Did he say it's huge or it's alion, I'm not sure.

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So people thought it might havebeen a Voltron movie, because
it's a lion.
And then it just it cuts offafter you see all the screaming
and stuff in the head and itsays one 1808.
No fucking title, bro.
Literally.
I'm getting chills talkingabout it.
I did not care what happened inTransformers after that trailer

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Because I was a boy that lovedbig monsters.
I like big monsters more than Ilike big robots, so holy shit.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
What were we talking about?
Liberty's face?
Is it like the surprise?
Look on her face.
Oh what were we talking aboutthe Statue of Liberty's face is
like the surprise.
Look on her face.
Yeah, it's like oh, it has hadan.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I-ego face, whatever you call it.
It's funny in the trailer theStatue of Liberty's head is much
smaller.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Because they made it bigger for the movie, because
they made it the actual size ofthe Statue of Liberty, like
robot chicken, like build thedolls.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Weirdly, I guess the Statue of Liberty's head is not
as big as you think it isapparently.
Wow, yeah, you'd think it'd bemuch bigger.
Yeah, but man dude, that trailerwhich led to me going online on
my AOL internet where if youwanted to load up anything it
took 10 to 15 minutes.
Hell, yeah, took 10 to 15minutes.
So I'd be on my computer like 7pm to like 5 am, just like

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1-18-08, and then when you dothat, it like took you to this
blank website that just had somepictures from the movie, like
close-up of people like scared,like covered in dust and stuff
no information yeah noinformation, that's it.
But if you dive a little deeper,all the characters have MySpace
pages.

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Whoa, what Viral marketing,baby.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
And the fun part about that is all of them logged
in.
The last date they logged inwas the release of the movie and
they never did anything againbecause they all died.
And then you had all the deeperthings, right?
So you have JJ Abrams.
He, in the show Alias that hecreated, there is.

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He likes to put his ownbranding in it, like slusho
shirts, which is what Rob's work, oh, really, he has on.
You go to that Web site, takesyou about, like it.
You dive deep into, like, oh,this underwater drilling and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Is it the same as Sephora?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
No, but there's also a funny thing about that.
I'll have to tell you later,but it's this whole thing that
you could.
Then you go to this anotherwebsite and you learn about the
drilling.
And there was a lot of drillingfor like oil or like some sort
of like mineral or somethingthat they like were putting in
the slush hoe drinks orsomething.
Oh sweet.
And then, like they'll havesome pictures and it's just
drilling, and then there's likea video.
It's the drilling, butsomething like goes across the

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in front of the drill and thenit like attacks it, and it was
like really cool, that's whatthey really drag you down a
rabbit hole.
Yeah, dude, this is why I wasobsessed with jj abrams and
before I realized, oh shit, thisguy's just trying to be like
steven spielberg his entirecareer.
But uh, it just led to thisobsession with me and it's why I

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love cloverfield.
Now, why I got upset aboutcloverfield is they never gave
us a sequel, but talked abouthaving a sequel before their
movie came out.
And then, you know, theyreleased 10 cloverfield lane,
probably the best movie in theseries and way better than
cloverfield.
The cloverfield will always benumber one in my heart.
Yeah, there's just no monstersand yeah, well it's till to the

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end.
Then you get like the ufo andstuff like afterwards and it's
like this whole big reveal of ohshit, there is an actual
monster invasion.
But it's like alien UFOs.
And it's not Cloverfield,though.
It's just like they use aCloverfield branding to make
this great script that DamienChazelle, who directed La La

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Land, Whiplash First man, wrote,but they just decided to turn
it into a Cloverfield movie.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
That's a wild thing to do.
Yeah, they did kind of.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
They did the same thing with Cloverfield Paradox.
It wasn't originally aCloverfield movie.
They turned it into aCloverfield movie I don't think
I've seen.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Paradox why didn't they do the same thing as they
did as Tremors 2 and 3?
Let's make it, hey, let hey,let's give them, let's give them
wings.
It's like, oh, they can walk onland.
Third one they can fly.
They fly now, they fly now umfour, they tunnel again.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, but it was just , it was just such a weird thing
, um.
And then there was also, uh, aquiet place that was originally
supposed to be turned into acloverfield movie, but they're
like, well, is too good, we'reactually going to keep it.
That would have been closer,yeah.
I know they actually kind oflook similar shapes and stuff,
right.
And then there was this moviecalled Overlord.

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I don't know if you saw it.
It takes place in like WorldWar Two and it's like Nazis
turning people into monsters.
That's cool, fucking amazing,it's brutal, it's rough it's
great, I'll let you borrow it.
It's got John Boyega in it,wyatt Russell, kurt Russell's
son, in it.
It's pretty good.
It's like it's pretty viciousand that's what I like about it,

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but yeah, but so, after overlike 15 years, they're finally
like hey, by the way, we'regiving you that Cloverfield
sequel.
So in January 2021, jj and them, they're like hey, we're going
to give you a sequel, an actualsequel.
That's not going to be foundfootage and this is going to be

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a regular ass monster movie.
That is a proper sequel.
It's going to be, let's see.
I guess it's going to be writtenby Joe Barton, who I don't know
if you've seen the movie theRitual on Netflix.
He helped write that movie.
That's cool.
And it's going to be directedby, oh god, babak Baba Yaga, but

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it's Babak Anvari.
He's an Iranian filmmaker.
He did a movie called Under theShadow which I blew about
watched, which was pretty good.
Um, yeah, but he has a couplemovies on Netflix and it's
supposed there's no release date.
Who knows if it actually evergets released.
Seems like everything JJtouches gets weirdly crazy

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release dates way down the line.
But yeah, that's uh, that'shistory of Cloverfield, I guess.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I didn't mean to go through all that, but I ended up
just doing that.
And do you think what's theguy's name?
Tj Miller.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
His character's name is Hud.
Do you think it's short for aheads up display?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Like first person.
Yep, that's exactly what theydid.
Isn't that great?
It's so fucking fantastic.
So now that I went through allthat, what else was I going to
say?
Yeah, it's just such, is it notjust like a great idea for a
monster movie to make it foundfootage?
Yeah, I think it's a prettycool way to look at it.
Yeah, it's really good, becauseevery fucking stupid ass

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monster movie always is like wegot to get.
We want you to have theperspective of the people
because it's cooler and it'slike yeah, it is, but you guys
like never show us that, right,it never makes it believable
that these are people stuck intothis situation.
And this actually gives us thatfeeling of hey, you're on the
ground and there's a monster andit isn't attacking you, it's

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just attacking.
It's attacking everything else.
Yeah, and it's just, I don'tknow, but it gives us the
ability to get very realisticshots of the creature from Sex
Kid you might not normally seein a monster movie, and it's
just like this is the shots whenit looks up and you got the
monster like, and it's like ah,this is cool.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I ah this is cool.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I do like how they.
They delayed showing you whatit looked like.
Yeah, they for a while, becausejaws kind of uh completely
ruined ever seeing monsters in amonster movie.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, it's a shark.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know what sharks look like yeah, but you know,
it's the whole fact that, like,you never see the shark, really
till the very end, okay.
And then every monster movieafter that's like, yeah, we
decided to go the jaws way, andit's like, just say you didn't
have the budget to show themonster.
And if you show monsters toomuch, it does lose the effect, I
guess.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
So yeah, and they don't even show the whole
Cloverfield monster till thevery end.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Which that's what JJ was like.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, it's like Jaws and it's like OK, Show his
headlongs in his belly arms yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
But there's something really cool about this.
Just because you know what Ilike, All right, you know what
sucks about the new Godzillamovies is that they look like
crap.
They're very cool to watch, butit's just.
You know, when they finally gotto the area where you wanted it
, you want to see these monstersinteracting with each other and

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it's like you want to get ridof the humans.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's like there's too much humans especially in the
first couple of Warner Bros.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, and it's like oh my god, I don't care about
these people.
You didn't make them likable oranything.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
The little girl saves Godzilla.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Oh well, the Asian kid is great in those parts,
rebecca Hall's great.
But then you know they give itto you.
But what do they give it?
They give it like this hollowearth thing and it's like, oh,
this is all computer generatedand it looks bad and it's just
like I don't know.
It just ends up looking sillywhen you see them too much.
But it's like we got to findthat like sweet spot of you see

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plenty of the monster and youalso just give us a good human
story and show us plenty of themonster.
Yeah.
Yeah, they can't find thatmiddle ground.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Host did it very well.
Yeah, maybe we did earlier.
That's like almost like theperfect version of you cared
about the characters and themonster.
You got tons of it.
I do like it.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Like in Godzilla, if you're going to show the monster
, you got to show a wreckingshit yeah and shit all the time.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, exactly, and fighting something big.
Yeah, which I feel like thisdid very well.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Mm-hmm, but even without it you should see like
explosions and shit flyingthrough the air.
Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, oh man, the shots of it just getting bombed
was great.
So did you notice the thingfalling in the water at the very
end?
The Coney Island stuff?
Did you notice the thingfalling in the water at the very
end, the Coney Island stuff?
It's like where it cuts back tothem.
It's like I had a good day, oh,and then it falls into the
water.
There's like this thing thatfalls into the water.
That's what it was.
No, oh, the creature is onEarth and it came from the water

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, I believe.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's what I believe .

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, what was that thing then?
Some Jason, you know, somepeople don't fucking know.
It's pretty easy to assume it'sa monster though when I
remember I try to look up, Ifelt like there was plenty of
things that said what.
There's a lot of speculationwhat the creature is.
It's obviously a deep watercreature.
That's why it's got likecrab-like parasites on it.

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Yeah, and so the idea is thatlike that thing fell into the
water, I believe, and like wokethe creature up, oh, but there's
also kind of stuff that kind ofgoes against that.
I have so much fucking shit inmy notes, dude, it doesn't
really to me, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I guess you could say it's a deep water creature, but
the crab thing's on its back, Imean, did they all just breathe
oxygen, thinking too hard?
If it's just like a deep watercreature, thinking way too hard.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I mean, it felt like it had like almost, uh,
amphibian, yeah, like things onits side, almost kind of like
frog, like yeah, that was themembranes coming out of its head
, yeah, so maybe that helps itbreathe on land and maybe it was
a creature that used to roamand then could go between water
and land and it just lives inwater but comes up on land just

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because it can.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't know somebody threw a rock from space and
woke it up hey wake up.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
That was like the dad daddy cloverfield, like it's
time to wake up.
There's a civilization we haveto destroy.
Oh, that'd be crazy if therewas an even bigger clover.
Yeah, uh well, this is a baby.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Oh shit, yeah how do we know?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
that, uh, let's get into the notes, okay.
So before we get to that,though, I have other notes.
So, um, this was very fun tolearn after I watched the movie.
Finally, they sort of hadinformation.
So there's images from themovie 1993, 1933, king kong, uh,
1953, the Beast from 20,000Fathoms and the 1954 them.
There's little images hiddenthroughout the movie and if you

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pause it at the right time youcan see it.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's an homage to monster movies.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
There's also a lot of Spongebob Squarepants on the
TVs.
That is true.
Well, why not?
It also has a Maybe thismonster lives in a pineapple
Squidward.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I gotta go kill in New York City.
Well, I think something peoplewould say about this podcast is
really bad Spongebob.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, I mean I get it .

Speaker 1 (16:42):
So the idea of having air sirens blaring in the
background at the end was StevenSpielberg's idea.
He felt the sirens would serveeffectively as a countdown to
the massive blast that comes.
I just love how everybody takestheir movie to Steven Spielberg
and he gives a, gives like onenote, and they always put it in.
I feel like we've done, I wouldtoo.
We've done a lot of movieswhere Spielberg's like do this

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and they're like yes, sir, yes,daddy.
Obviously you can't watch thismovie, it being in 2008, without
people like the obvious 9-11imagery.
Oh yeah for sure.
So Matt Reeves brings up theidea of some people comparing
the events of the film to 9-11.
He says I think we were alwaysaware that it did, in that we

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felt like it was a way ofdealing with the anxieties of
our time.
Reeves goes on to mentionGodzilla how these kinds of
genre films deal with real-lifeanxieties people have, how
effective that makes them.
But at the same time thesefilms are a comfortable way for
audiences to deal with theseanxieties.
Like the original Godzilla itwas all about the nuke that hit
Japan Like the original Godzilla.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It was all about the nuke that hit Japan, you know
right.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I thought youwere talking about the one that
came out in like 2001.
No, no.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That was about.
Hey, the guy that RolandEmmerich make a cool movie
that's going to be actuallyreally bad yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
But loved it as a kid .
I just remember the PR campaign, for that was insane.
Yes, the Taco Bell shit.
I had the Taco Bell cut out.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
That's awesome, it's huge.
I had, I had like the mama,godzilla and all the little baby
ones.
Great idea to have a Godzillamake babies.
You know, wish we saw the scene.
So one of JJ Abrams ideasduring filming for Matt Reeves,
the guy that directed, uh, warof the planet of the apes.

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And uh, what was the one?
No, dawn of the Planet of theApes.
He did the two sequels afterRise of the Planet of the Apes
and he did the newest, batman.
So Matt Reeves started withthis movie, which is fun.
Matt Reeves to take anextremely small crew to New York
City and shoot Gorilla Style onthe streets.
Extremely small crew to NewYork City and shoot Gorilla
Style on the streets, gorillaStyle on the streets and the

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sheets.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It does feel like the camera is being held by a
gorilla.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Right, it's like it's very realistic.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I didn't know if I was getting motion sickness or
if it was because of themedication I took.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm so lucky that watching things on TV does not
give me sickness.
If I try to read something in acar I'll get sick, but if I'm
watching a movie where they'relike, I'm like, I understand
everything completely.
But Abrams and Reeves felt thatif enough was filmed because
they filmed it in LA.
So they took people to New YorkCity essentially and just filmed

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over a week, just some, youknow, like New York City, like
destruction filmed over a weekjust some, you know, like New
York City, like destruction andstuff like that, to give it a
more, you know, realistic feelto it, which I feel like it did
a really good job with, becauseI didn't know it was filmed in
LA until I had to go online towatch it, okay.
So Matt Reeves explained aboutthe monster being a baby.
The secret that we had was thatthe monster was a baby.

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Having just been born, it wasgoing through separation anxiety
and had no idea where itsmother was and was freaking out.
It was a completely foreignplace.
It didn't understand a thing.
That didn't understand a thingand that would be sending it
into kind of infantile rage,which was very frightening.
But the thing that was alsofrightening to me was the idea

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that not only was it goingthrough an infantile rage which
was very frightening but thething that was also frightening
to me was the idea that not onlywas it going through an
infantile rage, but because itwas suffering from the
separation anxiety, it wasspooked.
It was really afraid.
And as the military startedshooting at it, I started
thinking like if we wereattacked by a swarm of bees for
the first time, it wouldn'tnecessarily kill you, but you'd
be terrified.
You'd be like what are thesethings doing?
And for me, there's nothingscarier than thinking of

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something that big, that spooked, Like if you're at a circus and
suddenly the elephants arespooked.
You don't want to be anywherenear that, You'll be crushed,
and so that's just became a wayto again find an approach, to
give an emotional or a groundedpoint of view to something that
was completely outrageous.
I mean, a giant monster is athird, but you have to find a
way to make it real.
That's wild.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, this is a baby.
So now I feel bad for it.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, that's, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Not really.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I do Things cues hell .
It's not cute.
What are you talking?

Speaker 2 (20:56):
about His little face .

Speaker 1 (21:05):
It's all slimy and gross.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I love the Cloverfield monster and I wish I
had one.
Well, I guess technically I gotmy dog snake.
You might as well act like one.
Did you see the radioactivewasps?
Uh-uh, some wasp made a nest ona nuclear facility or something
and now they're just likeradioactive wasps now.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh my god, I'm gonna turn into a wasp man.
Yeah, hell, yeah, that'sawesome.
Can't wait for that, shit yeah,or I'll just die of poisoning.
That's awesome.
Can't wait for that, shit yeah,or I'll just die of poisoning.
Radiation is like this but ifso, if you watch Cloverfield
Paradox, we get a shot of theCloverfield monster, but it's
way bigger, nice, and I thinkthat's supposed to be like full

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grown version of a.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Cloverfield monster.
It's like this one, but later.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, this one, but bigger.
There's a lot of informationabout the Cloverfield Monster.
Like, seriously, we could justdo a separate podcast just
talking about the CloverfieldMonster.
Go online.
There's plenty of informationabout it.
They took a lot of inspirationfrom underwater things.
It's like, obviously, somethingthat probably was smaller, but

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as it got you, you know, likeprobably born closer to the
surface of the ocean, but Iguess they're.
They go down to like the bottomand they just get bigger and
stuff like that.
Uh, but yeah, it's essentiallylike a deep water monster,
essentially a greenland sharklike they kind of got ideas from
, you know, the giant squids andoctopuses and stuff that live

(22:26):
at the very bottom of the oceanand stuff like that, which I
think is the rightest thing ever.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Those things are like aliens.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, the entire underwater is just aliens.
Right, it's wild.
I love when there's all youknow, just like I feel like
every couple of years we get anew creature arrived on the
surface of the ocean and you seeit, it's like who put that down
there?
That's just in the ocean andI'm supposed to go to the beach
every once in a while.
Hey God, why?

(22:52):
Yeah, what are you doing, dude?
Not enough weird creatures atthe top of the surface, you made
jellyfishes.
You could have stopped.
Ugh, jellyfish.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
You ever?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
snung by a jellyfish yeah, yeah, me too.
And then your dad tells you topee on it, and so you pee on
your leg and then you like, growup and you realize that's not
something that actually workswhy did I expose myself to
everyone at the beach to pee onmy leg?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
that's super weird.
Dad's like fucking loser.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
He's over there pointing at me and laughing I
just made you say hey, you seehow small that.
He's over there pointing at meand laughing with the crowd I
just made you.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Hey, you see how small that kid's penis is.
Look at his tiny dick.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
He's like go on.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Loser.
It's like dad is this coldwater.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
I'm eight.
How big do you?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
want it to be.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Oh God, all right.
Well, that's a way to end thenotes section.
No-transcript.
Probably run away real hard,Would you run on the other way?
I'd be in my car.
I'm like I wonder what uh NewEngland's like at this time of
year.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Get the fuck out first.
I mean, they tried.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, and I guess, uh , you know, travis the girl, the
guy that was with Beth at theparty, yeah, that guy.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
uh, he just dipped out and he didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I guess the backstory is that he didn't even know
there was a monster attackingNew York until he got home.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well, damn Lucky for Travis.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Good thing she was a little bit clingy.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, right, get away from that.
Yeah, oh, dude, could you justimagine turning on the news and
then it's like hey, there's agiant monster attacking the
world.
It's like shaking your house andyou're watching the TV Like wow
, it's like, thank goodness noneof these movies ever take place
, you know, in like small town,tennessee.
Yeah, dude, it'd be pretty easybecause we'd be like, oh, there

(24:50):
it is, there's no giantbuildings blocking it.
All right, I'll go that way.
And it's weird, you know, everytime I watch one of these
monster movies, I'm like whycan't they just kill it?
Why is it that tough?
Yeah, why are they so tough?
Why are they always impossible?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
to shoot, is he like super squishy.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I mean, I guess it's if you think about, like you
know, shooting a, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
But they dropped some pretty big-ass bombs on it, a
bunch of them.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, you would think that at least bombs would take
it out.
But I get it.
It's a movie and this monstermovie, it's just not supposed to
die.
I guess it just has likeconcrete skin on, though It'd
have to have like steel beamsfor skin, essentially, I guess
yeah, I don't know Very thickhide, yeah, oof hide, yeah.
Oh, you know, after they killit they can be like we should
see how it tastes, just in casethere's any more down there.

(25:38):
That's right, because then wecan find them and just eat them,
just overfish the shit out ofthem.
Yeah, that's what we do, that'sat least what japan would do,
like, oh, not just whales, let'salso do cloverfield monsters.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
That sounds so gross.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I mean it's nasty oh, that, I mean it's supposed to
be from what I've heard becausethey're just filled with mercury
.
They're like one of the worstlike seafood options you could
have, just because they're justcontaminated with mercury.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
It gives you like big , big feature.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Like it like blows up your head.
Fuck yeah, man, like notexplodes your head, but just
like it makes your head bigger.
That's awesome, you ever seensomeone smarter yeah.
Yeah, so that's also smarter.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, yeah, so that's also what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
All right, man, I think we should just get into
the movie, right?
Yeah, I feel like if I'm, I'lljust keep rambling about things
I remember from my childhood.
This was just a very big movie,Like.
I remember all the hype aboutit, yeah, and it just awesome.
It really like took over mylife for a while because we had
to wait like eight months beforethe movie came out.
So that's eight months of mejust being like when will we get

(26:42):
more information about thiscrazy trailer?
I'm pretty sure I saw this intheater.
Oh, yeah, I did.
It was actually a great theaterexperience until the end and I
knew that there was going to besomething at the end.
And you know, we get all theway through the dope score that
they have and then you just getthis thing that sounds like it
says help us or save us, butreally it's.

(27:04):
If you play it backwardsbecause you know JJ's like I
can't make it easy on them itsays it's still alive, but when
I watched it in theater, as soonas they're about to talk, a, as
soon as they're about to talk,a guy farts really loud, and
then I remember the guy beinglike well, there was a guy like
a few rows behind him was likeso glad I waited this whole time

(27:24):
just to hear the fart insteadof what was actually playing and
I was like.
So then I had to go home it'sbeen 40 minutes trying to figure
out what it said, because mydial-up internet oh, that's hard
, all right.
So before we hop into the plot,uh, we just want to remind you
that we have a new category.
It's called what's the point ofthis movie?

(27:47):
it's where after we go throughthe plot and stuff, we're gonna
discuss the point of the movieand we'd love to hear what you
think the point of the movie isof Cloverfield.
I think it's probably justmonster attack, get cool, but
we'll see what happens.
But you can leave us an emailsaying what you think.
The point is that we recommendat mailbag, we recommend mailbag

(28:09):
at gmailcom, or the top of ourdescription there's a link you
can click and you can just textus from your phone.
All right, so, jason, let's getinto the plot of the movie.
So we see that it's going to befound footage from a personal
video camera recovered by theUnited States Defense Advanced
Research Project Agency.
A disclaimer text states thatthe footage of a case designated

(28:31):
as Cloverfield where we get thename Cloverfield and was found
in the area formerly known asCentral Park RIP Central Park
field, and was found in the areaformerly known as central park
rip central park.
Uh, the video consists ofsegments taped the night of
friday, may 22nd 2009 macaulaycullikin's down there feeding
the pigeons yeah, next to keanureeves also feeding pigeons.

(28:52):
Um.
The video consists of segmentsfrom friday, may 22nd 2009.
The newer segments were tapedover older video that is shown
occasionally, all right.
So the first video segmentopens when Rob wakes up the
morning of Monday, april 27th,having slept with Beth, a
previously platonic friend.
Maybe don't point your cameraat a naked girl.
He's sleeping, especially wheny'all aren't even dating.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Well, he promises it will never end up on the
Internet.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's never been a thingcalled revenge porn.
We see that.
And then like we it like cutsout and they cut and like
they're throwing food at eachother trying to catch in their
mouth and it's like no way onthis planet would they have gone
, done breakfast and still nothave put any clothes on at this

(29:39):
point.
So they make plans to go toConey Island that day and then
the footage cuts to May 22nd at6.43 pm, when Rob's brother,
jason and his girlfriend Lilyprepare a farewell party for Rob
, who will be moving to Japan.
I like the intro, I like thebeginning.
It's so shaky, it's so crazy,it's very.

(29:59):
I don't fucking know what to dowith a camera and that's why
it's very shaky and you canalways tell when an actor has
the camera versus when theyactually have a camera operator
with it.
It's like here that's theactual guy doing it and you know
he has no camera technique atall, because it's like yeah, I
feel like a bobblehead watching.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
No, I think the best part of the beginning is TJ
Miller just being an idiot, Iknow he, he's very funny.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
He's a canceled person, but very funny.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Is he really yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Everybody gets canceled.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, I don't remember what it is, or if it
still is an actual thing, or ifit just.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
He was jerking off in front of the chimps at the zoo.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I don't think it was anything like.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
What yeah?
You can get canceled for thatyeah that's true, I'll do it
right now.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I was just like did you hear something?
But yeah, tj Miller, he's kindof like he's what gets you
through all the human parts, Ifeel like most of the time.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
And he's pretty good.
I didn't really care much forthe first like 30 minutes, yeah,
Until the monster shows up.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, especially after you watch it a couple
times, you're just like it's funto just.
I love the soundtrack at theparty.
It's great they have a lot ofreally they have older Kings of
Leon songs, which was myfavorite version of Kings of
Leon's.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Taper.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Jean girl, it's great .

Speaker 2 (31:16):
This sex is on fire.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
So they make plans, whoop.
So yeah, then their friend HudPlatt uses a camera to film
testimonials after Jasonunloaded the task to him because
Lily was like Jason film allthis shit and he's like I don't
want to do that at a party.
Hud is an amateur videofilmmaker filmmaker and the
video footage he shoots is veryjerky and cuts in and out very

(31:41):
quickly.
Um, but tj miller makes thiskind of whole thing feel real,
like I feel like he does a greatjob with the camera and if me,
him just being like someone whodoes not want to do this is, but
has a little fun with it butalso just kind of wants to party
.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, I think it's.
He works because he's like thenervous talker.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
And so that's the person you kind of need.
Yeah, camera.
Yeah, exactly, because if itwas me, I wouldn't be saying
shit.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I feel like Rob was never going to watch this video.
He's like all right, I'm sick.
Hud has a crush on a mutualfriend, marlena.
It's Lily's friend who's alsoattending the party.
Hud is very awkward and weirdaround her.
Love that.
It's Lizzie Kaplan.
This was my introduction to herand now I've watched.
You know, I've watched more TVand movies.
I'm like shit.
She was kind of in everythingaround this era.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
New Girl, True Blood, a couple movies.
What about TJ Miller?
Was he in a lot of stuff beforethis?
He was a stand-up comedian.
At this point.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't know when Silicon Valley came out, but I
think after this movie andSilicon Valley he just started
popping up in everythingDeadpool and a few other
comedies.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
He's just got a huge fro and gains a bunch of weight
for Silicon Valley.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's how you get famous in Hollywood as a funny
person.
Jonah Hill can tell you allabout it.
So we had a classic awkwardmovie party.
People like just like mouthingnothing and it's like slightly
kind of dancing to no musicbecause there's no music there.
Later in the night Rob arrivesfor a surprise party.

(33:13):
This is probably the biggestlaugh in theaters.
Whenever he comes out, he'slike oh, and then he immediately
walks right back out the door.
I'm like that's great.
Yeah, uh, I will say a lot oflike the confessionals and stuff
that happens at this party.
It's not scripted.
They there was a script, butthey're like this needs to feel
more natural if it's foundfootage.

(33:33):
So a lot of everything tjmiller's saying is not scripted.
There are some beats that theyhave to obviously get like,
especially when they stop withthe camera and you see people
doing something.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's usually scripted Like dialogue.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, but yeah, I feel like that rock going in and
going back out.
I'm like that feels very, thatdoesn't feel scripted, that
feels like a legit, like that'swhat I would do in a surprise
party.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I would just freeze like.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I did at my surprise party.
It's like what do I do?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
So I would shut the shadows in the room.
It's like, oh, oh, am I?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Is this sleep paralysis?
So, rob, he gives a speech.
Rob asks Cud, is Beth coming tothe party?
And then she shows up with arandom fucking guy named Travis
Damn Travis.
Boom, boom, boom.
I put in my notes.
Well, this video's ruined andyou'll never watch it now.
It's like great, the girl Ilike is Brought in a guy to this

(34:25):
party.
And now I'll always rememberthis party as this.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
You need to normalize showing up alone.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I put in my notes because I didn't remember what's
about to happen.
But I put also maybe just don'tbring a guy you're dating to a
guy you just slept with a fewweeks ago, last day, in America.
There's no way it could beweird, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Just like, maybe it's New.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
York.
It's like I get you're going tothe party and like y'all aren't
in a relationship, but you know, you have to show up with a
date.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
This is something I never understood.
You have to show up with a dateor you're a loser.
I was just a loser.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's also like hey you guys obviously slept with
you.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
He probably obviously likes you, though we'll figure
out a little more information ina second and there's going to
be drama.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's his last date.
Just have a good time with him,and if you never see him again,
you never see him again.
But I don't want to put all theblame on her, because it can be
shit a little.
Rob soon realizes that Hud isusing Rob's video camera to
shoot the testimonials and thathe didn't change the videotape
inside, which means he tapedover Rob and Beth's trips to
Coney Island In Beth's farewellmessage.
Beth is really distracted onthe camera, but she says she's

(35:26):
really going to miss him.
Later Hud catches Rob and Bethfighting with each other in the
hallway.
Turns out Beth had not brokenup with Travis and she's
pregnant when she slept with him, rob over a month ago.
So she was with Travis and notbroken up while sleeping with
Rob.
Beth is still with Travis andRob is angry about that, though
Beth says Rob hasn't talked toher in three weeks.

(35:48):
So he had sex with her and justdidn't talk to her.
So you know what, rob.
Maybe you deserved it yeah youshould have just talked to her,
um.
But then it's also the samething.
It's like yeah well, I wasabout to leave, so maybe you
don't want to get too attached,but then at the same time you
can't get upset with him, her atthis party.
So talking really fat man, thisamericana is like make me go a
mile a minute all right.

(36:11):
So after lily tells hud thatbeth and rob had sex because no
one knew, because hud's thewhole time like there's
something weird.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Something weird's happening.
What's up with him Did?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
you hear about that, yeah, and then he gets told that
, and then he immediately tellseverybody at the party and
they're all like we don'tbelieve you, hud.
So we see Beth is leaving.
She says good luck to Japan, orgood luck to Rob in Japan.
She good luck to Rob in Japan.
She says good luck to you,travis.
It's like Rob, you're anasshole.
You should have just called herthe next day.

(36:42):
Why didn't you?
Yeah, so on the roof, rob hood,jason talk on the roof.
They tell him he should havecalled her and Jason calls him a
douchebag.
Yes, um, and this is like anexample of a classic.
I blame the girl for somethingbecause I didn't do anything
about it.
Yeah, classic movie shit.
Yeah.
Suddenly, an apparentearthquake strikes and the city

(37:02):
suffers a brief power outage.
The local news reports that anoil tanker has capsized near
Liberty Island and the party,very smart when it comes to
earthquakes, decides to go tothe roof.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, and I love how the news is talking about it
immediately.
Yeah, I know it's great andthey're on top of it in New York
.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, kind of the most unbelievable thing, right?
Because I mean I guess a tankerexploded, that's a big deal.
Yeah, just knocked everybody'spower out.
I feel like when there's anthough I will say I feel like in
New York if there's anexplosion, the news should
probably be on it pretty fast,because everybody's immediate
yeah, you're probably rightThroughout this they're
constantly like was that aterrorist attack?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
You know type of thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Which man terrifying right God.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, I'd be scared as hell.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I would also probably go to the roof, the buildings
falling and stuff on this.
When I was watching it, I wasjust like now that I'm older,
I'm like fuck, fuck, 11 dude,they really is really effective.
So there they see a giantexplosion and debris flying
everywhere and they run to thestreet.
It's coming straight from thebuildings so this is the shit
that you saw in the trailer forthe Transformers.

(38:08):
This is it.
You see that and you see themrun on the street and the Statue
of Liberty head and they comein, optimus Prime comes out and
fights them.
Autobots roll out Autobots andthen you see the monster pick
him up, eat him in one bitebecause they're tiny compared to
the monster.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
No way he'll pull out his stupid sword and then
Bumblebee's like let's get readyto rumble.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I don't know whatever it's on the radio or TV, I
don't know.
I'm not the biggest Transformerfan.
I like that first movie, butand the third movie, but that's
it.
So when the party goers leavethe building, they see a head of
statue of liberty crash intothe street with several stunning
scratch and bite marks.
Fucking amazing.

(38:48):
That was awesome, right?
It's just like that's the shityou put in the trailer.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's all you need.
You don't need any moretrailers.
The monster's out there in thebay or whatever, like his
baseball cap on no, I like.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Here's what I think it is.
I think like the monster getsbehind the Statue of Liberty and
puts his head right where thehead was, and then you got the
mama.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Cloverfield taking a picture that's the sequel.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Let's spoof this shit that's really good alright,
Poof this shit.
That's really good.
It's got a shirt that says Ilove New York.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's just like a classic tourist Nice.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
So yeah, hud records what appears to be a hand of a
large creature.
Several blocks away, passing byanother building, a glimpse of
a monster is shown that causesthe Woolworth building to
collapse.
The gang heads into a bodega toescape the chaos.
Hood tells Rob that it's alive.
Bum, bum, bum.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's alive.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Ugh amazing, so fun.
And what's the deal with?

Speaker 2 (39:51):
the what's the deal?
What's the deal with thatnewspaper box with the 0% on it?
Huh, oh, I don't know, it's atheme, like in the very
beginning, when it's before themovie opens.
There's like the words on thescreen and it says something
about 0%, and then there's 0%graffitied onto that mailbox.
It's like a newspaper stand.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Holy shit, jason I.
It's like a newspaper stand.
I know exactly what you'retalking about.
Holy shit, jason, I, don't,don't, no, what's the deal?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
What's the deal with all those percentages?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Who are these percentages?
I feel like you could easilyprobably do a podcast bingo with
us.
It's when will Jesse bring upSeinfeld?
When will he do a zero?
When will he say a?
When will he say bum, bum, bum?
What TV show will he bring up?
A TV show he's watching?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
When will Jason make you feel uncomfortable?

Speaker 1 (40:49):
When will Jesse make?
Or when will Jason make Jessego what?
And obviously a horse thingblowing up.
Yeah, oh man, there there was ahorse.
Too bad it didn't get squished,no, it was just like.
I guess I don't have humans, Inow I just have this buggy gotta
make a living.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Great shot, though, and then it trots away.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
You want to go right at my horse and buggy?
All right.
Well, we got.
I'm trotting here.
Yeah, oh my God, that fuckinggot me, dude.
All right.
So now that we're laughing,let's talk about terrible things

(41:33):
.
So, jason, he goes outside Ooh,that's your name Goes outside
and the gang goes with him.
Everyone is covered in ash.
Very 9-11.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, with all the smoke blowing down the street.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
It's very effective, Very effective.
There's also a lot of weirdextra stuff going on.
In the background there's onebigger guy who's just walking.
Then all of a sudden he startsscooting away.
I'm like what's that guy doing?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
He didn't want his picture taken.
He's just like I don't want tobe in this movie.
It's like when you walk infront of someone taking a
picture, You're like shit, getout of the way.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
He's like he was just actually in New York.
It's like what the hell'sactually happening.
So the group decides to exitManhattan via the Brooklyn
Bridge.
While walking to the bridge, wesee all the destruction looks
great.
It's setting up like the fullmonster reveal.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
so well I guess I've never been to New York, but I
guess you have to go out on abridge to get off of it, because
it's an island.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, there's like 27 bridges that like lead to
Manhattan.
They made a movie called 27.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Bridges and they had to shut down all 27 bridges.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
OK, then they could have traveled through the
Lincoln Tunnel.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I specifically remember the trailer to that
movie, like Will Ferrell.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, they could have traveled through the Lincoln
Tunnel.
I specifically remember thetrailer to that movie.
Like Will Ferrell, yeah and geta Tesla tunnel and send you
right out of there.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
One person at a time.
Yeah, so they finally make itto the bridge.
While walking on the bridgethey see the Statue of Liberty
and a ship destroyed.
Then Rob gets a call from Bethsaying she can't move.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I wonder why Suddenly , a gigantic tail destroys the
Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Bridge and Jason Poor Jason, let the bell toll.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Another angel got its wings.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
The rest of the group escape the bridge.
With the chaos in the streetand screaming hurt all around,
they try to console Lily, veryupset that jason died, um boy.
So starting from here, startingfrom here every five seconds is
rob rob yeah, and every fiveminutes rob is an asshole

(43:31):
because everybody's like oh mygod, someone died.
Rob's like I got I'm gonna walkaway.
I really want to get laid guys.
I really gotta go somewhere.
Um, but the like, the chaos inthe streets and the screaming is
so good.
In the part where, especiallybecause I was, you know, I was
writing, typing my notes, Iwasn't looking at the screen

(43:52):
during this part.
Then I was just like, and it'sjust, I keep thinking of how the
movie is like, you know,probably kind of how, like, 9-11
was right in the street.
Like I mean think, if you likecouldn't see in front of you
because there's smoke and youjust, you just see people
running, you can't really payattention.
You just hear the screaming.
It's like dazed people, justlike shambling about.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
It's fucking crazy, love it, yeah.
It's fucking crazy, love it,yeah.
So On the street they seelooting Rob's phone is dead and
he goes to get a new battery.
There they see a news reportshow that the National Guard's
42nd Infantry Division attackingthe monster and smaller
parasite creatures, falling offits body and attacking people.

(44:34):
News reports are great, sofucking cool.
It's where we finally get tosee the monster for the first
time.
Really, oh yeah.
And it's just like great, likeover the head shots of it.
It's like how you do it throughthe found footage version of it
and then you just haveeverybody gets quiet while
looting, like, oh wait, maybe,maybe this toaster isn't worth

(44:56):
it, maybe I should be gettingout of here.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Man, it was a real trip back to the aughts, wasn't
it?
You got all those big ass TVsyeah.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
And you know like people have probably stole the
TV and it was like running inthe military, it's like all
right, we're evacuating.
You just got people with giant.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
TVs after looting.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
It's like that's really what you're going to
bring.
Yeah, uh, just this part is sogreat and rob's not paying
attention at all.
Then rob gets a new battery,listens to phone message from
beth saying she is trapped inher apartment, unable to move um
, then the whole gang, theystart going against getting
railed.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, oh, travis, no, no, because of the rebar in my
chest, it's like rob gets there.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's like is this what you're into?
Is this this why you didn'tleave Travis?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I'll be over there as quick as I can, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I will never leave, so Rob's like I'm going to get
her.
The other three are like are wesure about that?
And we see like on the otherside of the street, like a whole
crowd just like walking singlefile line, like let's go army,
and walking single file linelike let's go army, um, and so
they're all going to venturedown to midtown, manhattan, to

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rescue beth.
Marlena doesn't want to go, butshe does anyways, and it's just
like.
Marlena, are you really thatinvested in this group of people
?
You seem like you're only therefor lily and she didn't talk to
you at the party.
I'd have been like peace, bye,this isn't worth it to me,
because I don't know beth and Ionly know one of you other
people and I would just try toget, I guess even if there's a
giant monster, you still don'twant to walk around alone,

(46:25):
because you'll yeah, like, look,I would do this for my wife,
sure, Obviously, but this guyjust was friends with this girl
and had sex with her once, andnow he's like I am the hero I
get.
We need a plot of the movie,but obviously this is ridiculous
.
It's like Rob.
What are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I mean, I guess he makes it there and he gets her
For love.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I mean, I don't know.
I mean I get it.
I would probably do the samething.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Get that, yeah god it's like this is just actually
the whole.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
This is what her orgasms do it just destroys the
whole city.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
That's all you can say.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Tremors um, yeah, so they're all gonna get it.
The monster is shown to bemoving between the buildings in
midtown Manhattan, causingwidespread damage.
They find themselves in abattle between the creature and
the military and then run intothe subway station Such a good
part of the movie where you knowthey're like ducked down.
They see all the cars driving,missiles flying over their heads
, flying over it, and then yousee the monster like stepping on

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the same street as them, andthen HUD is on the other side,
like just like yelling Rob, likewhat are y'all doing over there
?
And then they're like what arey'all doing over there?
And they're like just can't seeanything.
But they're just pointing andthey're like we're going to go
to the tunnels Because that'swhere you should get Underground
, under the monster.
Yeah, that's smart, yeah, andso, yeah.

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So then they go under thesubway station.
It's just a really great scene.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Then Rob gets a phone call and cries For the life of
me.
I really thought there wasgoing to be like a subway train
on fire going through thetunnels.
That'd be sick.
I don't know why.
Maybe I saw it somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
So Lily consoles him, but like she lost her boyfriend
that was talking aboutpotentially eventually getting
married and Rob hasn't reallycared at all about what Lily's
going through.
And then Lily's like oh, I'm sosorry that this one person you
had sex with one time is introuble, but also like your

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brother died and that was likeprobably going to be my husband.
So maybe we should talk aboutall that and then Hud and
Marlena talk.
He's kind of and he tries tocomfort her.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
He kind of sucks.
He's talking to Marlena, yeah,but he's kind of and he tries to
kind of sucks he's talking toMarlena.
Yeah, he's really bad.
You could have left.
Yeah, you made the decision.
Why did you do this?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
But he doesn't know how to talk.
But then there's also this likedon't remind me, yeah, but he
does kind of like say something,kind of even gives him a look
like oh, thanks.
So Rob convinces the group tofollow the tunnel tracks to
reach a station near Beth'sapartment inside the tunnels,
while navigating using theflashlight from the camera.

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They talk about the monster,but thanks, it came from the sea
.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Shouldn't the flashlight be in front of the
people?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Well, yeah, but you're trying to film everybody,
I know, because they probablycan't see like a couple feet in
front of them and he's.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I guess he's at least got 10 feet visibility.
He is trying to capture themtoo yeah, because there's this
whole.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
It's like are you filming this?
Yeah, people are gonna want toknow something that in every
single found footage film.
They have to say why they'refilming.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
And do you think they brought up Superman because of
TJ Miller?
What do you mean?
Because he's like, haven't youheard of Superman?
Like they're trying to talkabout where they came from.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, yeah, and JJ loves Superman.
But it's also one of thosethings where now it's like
everybody's heard of Superman.
No, me and my wife we've beenwatching the new season of Big
Brother and there's somebody onthere who does not know, who
knows what Superman is, but likeknows nothing about him, and
it's like, oh people, peoplestill live in this world.

(50:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I never really read comics or nothing, but I still
know a couple of things aboutSuperman, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
So it's great I love walking through the tunnel.
This is very effective andscary scene.
Oh, we're about to get to likeprobably my favorite part of the
movie, the icky rat.
So, um, they see a bunch ofrats running away, and it's
never a good thing when you seea bunch of rats running in one
direction.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
That would have been cool if they would have like a
million more, like a flood ofrats, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Um, and then they hear some noises but can't see
anything.
So Hud turns on the nightvision and we get this dope-ass
shot of the parasites on the topof the ceiling.
It's such a good shot, it's soeffective.
The parasites are the scariestthing in the movie yeah, clover,
they called the Cloverfieldmonster Clover, clovey Cute as

(50:54):
hell and I love them.
These parasites, holy shit, getthem away from me.
They're too small.
The big thing cool.
And they're so bitey.
The small thing, eee.
They're just like big spiders,they're on your level.
Yeah, they are like spiders,they're crab spiders, crab bird
spiders, tremors Like the cavespiders yeah.

(51:19):
Those things are so, or maybeit's cave crickets that I'm
thinking of, I don't know.
I don't know if I'm looking allof it up.
So, while saving HUD, marlenais yeah, so they're all getting
attacked.
And while saving HUD, marlenais bitten by one of the
creatures.
That's a very gruesome bite.
Yeah, they hold up in like amaintenance room type rest area
and drink some water.
Hud thanks Marlena for savinghim.
It's kind of a sweet littlemoment between, like, hud and

(51:41):
marlena.
There's a her oozing wounds.
Yeah, he's acting like a normalhuman being for a second, yeah,
instead of a weird guy.
Um I'm gonna keep this camera,yeah in your face and then we
get the line of like, wow, wegotta get out of here somehow,
and it's like I'm pretty sureyou probably should stay there.
It seems to be the safest spotyou've been in this whole time
yeah, you got all the mountaindew you could ever.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah you have water.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Just wait till the you're all the giant bombs and
then you can finally go back out.
Um, but yeah, so they decidethis is where we get the line
that I said at the beginning ofthe movie, where it's like so we
either go uh the tunnel, dieabove and die, or stay here and
die.
It's like yep, that's prettymuch it.
So the four, they decide toexit the subway and enter an
underground mall area, which Iguess is just a thing in New

(52:25):
York.
But Marlena begins to feelunwell.
She's like I don't feel good.
I feel like I'm about to getpregnant, really fast and
explode.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
My tummy's going to explode.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
So they are found by soldiers and luckily they are
taken immediately into like amilitary command center base
where the soldiers tell thegroup that they have not yet
identified the monster's originsand whatever it is, and
whatever it is, it's winning.
I love it.
It's like, hey great, you guysjust happened to take the exit
to where there's a militarymedical base I like how they're.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
You know they're rolling in the wounded soldiers
and there's that one, and hiswhole belly is missing it's been
blown out.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
That's what happened to her.
Yeah, because they're like, oh,it's another bite, and hud's
like I don't look at that, I'msure there's nothing to worry
about.
Um, and we learned that themilitary is about to leave.
Then Marlena begins bleedingfrom her eyes and she is
forcefully taken to a fieldhospital and explodes.
That was rad.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Called it the explosion of blood.
Yeah, and you can see like theshadow of her stomach.
That was great Wild man.
It's just getting harder togive birth these days.
We're going to hang to C wildman.
It's just getting harder togive birth these days.
We're gonna need to see that.
Yeah.
So rob, still intending onsaving beth per se, is one of
the military commanders to letthem go.
He is informed when the lastevacuation helicopter would

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depart before the militaryexecutes its hammer down
protocol which will destroy mandestroy.
Manhattan in its entirety inorder to kill the monster.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
The hammer time protocol.
The hammer time protocol Get MCHammer.
We need a stat.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Challenge this monster to a dance battle.
It's like I know Obama's notpresident yet, but he's like MC
Hammer.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
We need you.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
We need you.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
He's got the red phone that the president calls
when he's like mc hammer oh, weneed you, we need you.
He's got like the red phonethat the president calls when he
needs him yeah so puts on hisshades, yeah oh yeah, I guess I
don't have, I don't have a bushimpersonation?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
I couldn't do it.
Strategery, the teacherimpersonation, so I couldn't do
it.
Strategery, strategery, mcHammer.
No, I can't do it.
I'd do a better Obama than that, even though I should have
worked on my Obama before I didit.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Oh, so the last helicopter will leave Manhattan
at 0600 the next day.
Maybe he'll stay in one of myhotels.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Here's the thing.
I love that that you know.
This one military guy is likealright, I'll specifically deal
with these people, even thoughI'm sure a thousand people have
come up to him.
I have somebody that's missing,and this guy's just like.
I've had this conversation athousand times today.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
What if they were like shit?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
they found us, yeah um, this movie does a great job
showing the military working inaction.
Right, it's great.
I'm like hell, yeah, we got itunder control.
How'd they get here so fast?
Yeah, so while exiting themilitary base, hud breaks down
over the loss of Marlena.
Lily stops and consoles him andcries with him.
Selfish ass.

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Rob tries to leave them again.
He's like guys, fuck yourfeelings, I don't have time.
I know, I also know these peopleand care about them, but I
don't care about them.
Guys, I had sex with this girldude.
Come on, this is more importantthan the feelings you guys have
.
So, though, it is a tickingclock, so they have to hurry the

(55:53):
surviving group travel toBeth's apartment.
Feeling to just.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
He's like what does it leave?
Zero, six hundred.
What time is that?
Yeah, to Beth's apartmentbuilding to.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
He's like what does it leave?
0600, what time is that?
Yeah, it's 6 o'clock.
Oh, I knew that so, yeah, theyget to Beth's building and
discover it's leaning on aneighboring skyscraper.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Hell yeah that is bad whenever you see them check the
elevators and they don't workis that when?
You decide to turn around andsay all right.
You leave her a voicemail Likesorry, elevator's broken, I say
Rob's like he gets up 10 storieslike what, how high is it 30?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I don't know, man, we'll have to go 20 more feet,
so horny.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
And then I'll have to go back down.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I won't even be able to have sex tonight.
So but here's what I love.
I love that Slowly get thereand HUD's like well, I guess we
could go up the one that'sstanding and then cross over the
roof and they're like that's agreat idea.
He's like shit, nevermind, I wasjust kidding.
I was just kidding thatwouldn't work.
So they go up to the buildings,they he's.

(56:54):
Some for some reason thinksthat he should get in an
elevator and go up, even thoughthere's a giant monster
attacking.
Obviously, take the stairs, Imean, it would have been faster.
It would have been faster, butthen you're stuck in an elevator
, if something happens, that'strue.
But then they get to the topfloor and they're going to cross
over to the rooftop and thenthe group finds Beth fucking
impelled on exposed metalconstruction rebar, rebar sucks

(57:19):
ass.
I put my notes like ha ha ha,she's dead.
I almost had a piece of rebargo through my foot.
Dude, I almost landed on rebarone time, like playing football
into my foot.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
But it didn't go through it, it just went like
most of the way through.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yowch bro, I was playing like I was playing
tackle football with two of myfriends in high school and we
went to this place and they hadlike rebars because they're
going to build something butwe're using that.
All right, once you pass that,that's a touchdown.
And so I went to catch the balland then I was stumbling and I
turn around, I'm like like thatwould went straight through my

(57:55):
stomach and I was able to likekind of flop over the left and I
was like you have been fuckedup.
I said I'm done no morefootballs.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
The pile of broken glass.
That's a 10 yard line.
Yeah, no, I was so drunk and Ijumped out of the pool to get a
volleyball yeah, landed on it.
Didn't even know I was hurt andgot back in the pool.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
And then and got back in the pool, and then there's
like this cloud of blood allaround me.
It's just like then, all of asudden, you, I think I'm hurt,
don't know.
Hey, jason, did you get in thepool with our shark?
What?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Jaws, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I guess she just got lucky that it didn't hit her
heart and no main organs.
Yeah, that's very lucky.
Hit her heart and no mainorgans?
Yeah, that's very lucky.
Um, super.
I remember reading about peoplebeing like how the hell is she
running around?
I was like she saw a giantmonster and everything kicked in
.
Yeah, so they free her bylifting her up.
Hella brutal bro that's one ofthe hardest parts of the whole

(58:54):
movie to watch, because you canhear, but then you also have her
panicking.
It's her panicking.
Then I'm like I don't know,just like cut it off, yeah, but
it's like it's worse if you dropher.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
See if, oh, dude, like they pick her up and
they're like, oh slippery, it'slike oh, one more time don't
worry that one got my lung.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Guys.
How about somebody just hit meover the head with a block or
something?
See if clover's got anything,any medicine on him.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
He's like hey guys, what you doing?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah, so then they see the monster heading for him.
It's a great shot of like themonster's, like you fucking
you're not having sex on mywatch.
Jesus sit here, me here, tostop this Ultimate cock blocker.
But I love that Beth says whatis that?
It's just a terrible thing sothey head off they're navigating

(59:45):
the rooftops and we get greatshots of jess jets bombing the
monster.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yeah, it's so flying overhead, yeah, and it's just
like the way like the camera'smoving.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
It's obviously an actual camera operator at this
point, because they're gettingthe shots perfectly um those
things are shockingly loud.
Yeah, in real life, yeah oh, Imean they, because you know they
usually go over stadiums duringfootball games.
They're so loud and it's likethe best part of going to a live
football game.
It makes your heart race.
Yeah, uh, it's like that makesme feel like, yeah, this is

(01:00:16):
fucking america, baby football.
Bomb the other team, let'sreplay the national anthem.
So yeah, they head off and arenavigating the rooftops and get
the shots of the jets bombingthe monster Inside the building.
They run into a parasite.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
What's that?
Another terrible thing.
Yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
And then Rob axes it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
It's like all right, Rob, we're playing Hero Time.
Yeah, and then Rob axes it.
It's like all right, Rob, we'replaying Hero Time yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
So they make their way to the evacuation site at
the Grand Central Terminal,where they encounter the
creature again.
You got more shots of thebombing tank getting stepped on
it's all amazing SquishSeriously.
Like the end stuff with themonster and this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
You think that the tank would have just been like
flattened, or do you think itwould have gone like into the
ground and not been completelyflattened?
I think it just been.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I think it probably would have erupted a little bit
out of his feet.
You know, like I don't know, ifyou watch the hydraulic press.
Yes, I do they always kind oflike expand around it, usually
no matter what it is, or itexplodes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Maybe it's like stuck in his foot.
He like lifts up his foot.
He's like aww, it's likestepping on a Lego for him, ow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Ow, I'm not even old enough to play with Legos yet
it's got the.
So Lily is first rushed into adeparting Marine Corps
helicopter to escape, before theterminal is destroyed.
Moments later, rob, beth andHood are taken away in a second
helicopter and witness thecreature being bombed.

(01:01:50):
It's so cool, just like the topdown view of it.
It's like all the city's lightsare gone at this point and you
see the stealth bomber and thenlike, you really like.
And then you see the monsterevery time the explosions light
it up and you just hear himgoing stop, I don't know how to
get home.
And then, yeah, the stealthbomber comes up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
It's so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
So fun and cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
You think it's dead.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, and the creature falls into the smoke.
They're like, yeah, we did it.
Then, and the creature fallsinto the smoke and they're like,
yeah, we did it.
But then it lunges out of thesmoke and smacks the helicopter.
If I was them I'd be like, hey,pilot other way higher, can we
like?

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
you saw what was happening why are you still this
close?
He's looking at it too, like,oh shit, let's go to fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
It's like I forgot, I'm not in a movie, Just really
wanted this guy to get this shot.
I mean, it's pretty amazing.
Yeah, so yeah.
And then it lunges out of thesmoke and hits the second
helicopter, causing it to crashin Central Park, killing all the
occupants except Rob, Beth andHood.
What luck.
15 minutes before the hammereddown protocol is to commence,

(01:02:57):
the trio regain consciousnessand attempt to flee and like
they're picking up HUD.
And then you kind of hear likeboom, boom, boom.
Then HUD stands up and then theother two turn around like hey,
there's a giant monster here.
It's like y'all didn't see itbefore.
What's the?

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
deal.
How sneaky is this monster?
Yeah, because they're not onthe main island anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
They're in the middle of Central Park.
It's like how far away was thismonster?

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Did it like jump?
I thought that they flew offthe island to another place.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
No, no, they just like they barely.
They're still in Manhattan.
No, they didn't go anywhere.
Yeah, they didn't.
They lifted up and like made itmaybe a mile or two To and like
made it maybe a mile or two To.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Me it kind of looked like the monster swam across the
water to get to them?

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
No, I think it just.
It just somehow snuck up onthem you know it really hates
these guys.
It's like I upgraded my sneaklevel.
It's like when you play videogames and you're like crouched
down, walking straight intosomeone and they're looking
right at you.
It's like I'm glad I upgradedmy sneak.

(01:04:01):
So yeah, hurd turns back toretrieve the camera when the
creature suddenly appears andeats part of him yeah, he bites
him in half, doesn't?
he yeah, cause you see, you seelike his feet sticking out of
his leg and he just falls andit's like toughest camera you've
ever seen in your life and theycheck on him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Yeah, Like he hasn't just gotten bit in half.
It's just like Hud, are youokay?
Come on, Even if he was alive,it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I can't walk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Kill me please Like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
You know how we talked about killing Beth with a
cinder block, because you knowwe dropped her again.
Well, based on the, it'd bebetter if Hud like falls, he's
like half a body, he's like youget back here, cloverfield
monster, I can still take you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
He's crawling after him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
I've gotta get him hey, rob, rob, come back yeah,
rob's like ah, we got like fiveminutes and I really wanted to
have sex with her again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I was the only girl in New York now, the only person
I cared about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
so the only girl in New York, now the only person I
cared about.
So Rob and Beth grab the camerabut like why?
And take shelter under an arch.
As sirens blare and the bombingstarts, rob and Beth each
provide their last testimony ofthe day's events.
The bridge begins to crumbleand the camera is knocked out of
Rob's hand and buried beneaththe rubble.
Rob and Beth proclaim theirlove for each other just as the

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bomb explodes, the camerafreezing up before the footage
cuts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
So they're dead, though, right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Yeah, they're definitely dead.
They're pretty much dead.
Yeah, I don't think they I meanthey probably will never get
found.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
On the news when they were listening to the radio or
whatever they said.
If you can hear the s, whichmeans they were definitely in
the blast and like is it anuclear weapon?
Is it just like a big oldhammer?

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
down, whatever that means.
I think they were just like awhole bunch of stealth bombers.
The whole world starts to shakeand then, like as Manhattan's
like blowing up his likeparachute pants, lift him up to
the sky, jesus.
Take me home pants.

(01:06:03):
So the film ends with the finalof Rob and Beth's trips to
Coney Island on April 27, 2009.
Unseen by them, an incredible,undiscernible object falls from
the sky into the ocean justbefore the camera cuts out.
Beth states I had a good day.

(01:06:24):
Aww.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
After the credits a voice can be heard saying help
us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
But when played in reverse, it says it's still
alive damn dun, dun dun.
That's awesome so, um, I feellike the point of the movie is
just to give us a monster moviethat looks cool, but the other?
Point is, I guess, for thecharacters like true love finds
a way, I don't know, there'sreally not much of a point of
this except to have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah, it is just super fun, kind of awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Yeah, great idea, man , just like a great idea for a
monster movie.
It's very creative, jj Abramsand my crew, because Drew
Goddard, who he also he wasco-director but actually the
main director of Cabin in theWoods that we did.
He also was the showrunner ofthe first five episodes of

(01:07:12):
Daredevil Sweet.
Those are the best ones.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
And he wrote the Martian, the Matt Damon movie,
oh shit.
So he ended up having a verysuccessful career.
And then Matt Reeves.
Martian was okay, it's justlike all the smartest people,
like up and coming people ofHollywood, just made a great
little movie and JJ Abramsobviously always has great ideas
.
He just has a hard timefollowing through with

(01:07:36):
everything Finishing up on hismovies, but yeah, so falling
through with everything,finishing up on those movies.
But yeah, so what do you got?
So our next category the good,the bad, the ugly, the fine it's
where we discuss the good ofthe film Something we liked, a
scene, a character, something.
The bad, something we didn'tlike A scene, a character,
something.
And then we got the ugly, wherewe talk about something that
didn't age.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Well, the fine Something that did age well.
What do you got?
As the good Monsters, yes, andthe mystery.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Like the yeah, Like what is this?
Why is?
This it's like we don't becauseit's found footage.
It just it gave us all the.
It gave us no answers.
Yes, like we just had to put ittogether, I put the ARG of this
movie.
What does that mean?
Alternate reality, gaming typething you know, like the the the
trailer, the websites and allthat was so fun and it really

(01:08:25):
sucked me into this movie andit's a movie that like is a big
part of my life.
Even though it's just like agood, like fun movie it's not
like a great, amazing movie, butlike it just holds a special
place in my heart and that's whyI wanted to do it for the
podcast.
Also, the shots of the creatureand the creature design.
I think it's a.
It's tough with creaturesbecause when you see them, it's

(01:08:47):
a.
You have this expectation ofthem always being really it's
gotta be really cool and crazyand awesome.
You want to be like, yeah,right, and the ultimate
creatures are like King Kong andGodzilla and they just look so
rad.
So I can see it probably beingvery hard for them to create
like a cool creature.
And when I first saw it I waslike this is very strange.

(01:09:09):
I thought it was a lot kind ofbat-like when I first watched it
and the more I saw it.
It's like very like waterybat-tick kind of creature.
It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
What's up with his belly arms?
Are they for hugs?
What do they do with them?

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
That's when he J-O's, that's foreplay arms, that's
all those arms are for they'revery sensual lovers, these
Cloverfield monsters.
Alright, what do you got thebad I got a little motion
sickness sometimes.
Yeah, I put that in the ugly.
I was like this could be a verynauseous kind of movie for
people, a lot of people.

(01:09:44):
That's the biggest thing thatwhen I talk about Cloverfield,
people are like I couldn't, Ican't watch it and I'm like try
harder.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
It was good enough to suffer for it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's just all worth it.
Those shots of the creatures Iput the bad as usual monster
movie at.
Want More Monster and monstermovies.
Don't give you enough monsters.
Yeah, they didn't really followthrough with that.
It's just not really the pointof it.
You know, can't have thesepeople constantly.
I want to go film this thing.
So for the ugly I put couldmake people nauseous.

(01:10:14):
Also, man, they had such agreat idea for like a franchise
and they just they couldn't, Idon't know, it's like, it's like
they're almost lazy about it.
Well, it seems to me, let's notcreate a, let's not create an
idea for it, let's just keepreading scripts and then be like
oh, I want to make this movie,but how are we going to?

(01:10:34):
How are we going to like, howare we going to clover fire?
Well, it's like, how are wegoing?

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
to how are we going to like, how are we going to
Cloverfy it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Well, it's like how are we going to market this?
Oh, let's just put Cloverfieldin the title and then put some
aliens at the end.
Oh yeah, that sucks.
And the same way thatCloverfield Paradox.
It was just a space movie withsome weird trippy like science
stuff, and then they shoehornsome scenes on Earth with a
monster attacking, and it's whatthe fuck are we doing?

(01:10:59):
It's just kind of dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
So are they trying with the franchise that I guess
that they just throw the scriptsin the Cloverfield bin.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
It seems like they read a script and they're like,
oh, this is a good movie, butlike we're never going to get it
made because it's franchisetime, like this was.
You know, everything had to bea franchise at this point.
It's the only thing that mademoney, and so I think they're
just like all right, well, I hadcloverfield to it but with the
storyline, because I haven'tseen paradox.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
But with the second one it kind of had this idea
where you couldn't even gooutside anymore because it was
yeah, it was toxic or somethingjohn goodman's character said
there's been an attack andpeople could die out there if
you go out there, but it's justan alien invasion.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
But it was supposed to be like oh, we don't know if
the air is breathable and stuff,but spoiler, by the way, for
all of 10 cloverfield lane.
Sorry, I'm assuming if you'relistening to cloverfield, you
probably watched the second onewhoops, um, but yeah, and then,
uh, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler,ending spoiler, sorry we already
spoiled it earlier.
But then she gets outside andthere's nothing wrong with the

(01:12:01):
air, but then she sees a UFO andit's like fuck, and then it
attacks her.
Here's the thing when the moviecame out they constantly talked
about they had so many ideasfor a sequel and they just never
did any Because they were goingto keep it found footage and be
like we could make just thisone attack.
We could make like 15 sequelsoff of it just from other people
filming it from theirperspective.

(01:12:21):
That's true.
Or attacking, or maybe there'smore monsters waking up around
the world, yeah, and I thinkthey were just like maybe
because people were like, oh,it's too nauseating, but it's
like you could follow themilitary, you could have like a
news reporter, you could justfollow them.
It's like Wreck or Quarantinethe movie where it's like it's
just someone doing a news reportabout firefighters and they get

(01:12:44):
stuck in, they get quarantinedinto a building and there's
zombies or whatever.
Right, very cool.
But they just never did it.
And I know that, like all themain creators became very
successful and got put on likeso many projects.
And JJ got Star Wars, I'massuming all that got in the way
of everything, yeah, and nowthey're just like all right, jj
is co-producing and the story isleft up to these random people.

(01:13:05):
Now, and I think that's why now, a decade later or 15 years
later, it's like we promisewe're doing one, like is it too
late?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I mean it's been long enough.
Obviously I want it All right,so for the fine I put 10.
Cloverfield Lane is kind of amasterpiece, except for the part
that she won in Cloverfield.
It's just a great thriller,like claustrophobic thriller.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
And the marketing.
It's one of my favorite JohnGoodman roles.
Yeah, he's ever done.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
When the Academy Awards came out I was so fucking
pissed he did not win it.
He that's like his best actinghe's ever done.
He was so scary, it wasterrifying.
What do you got for the fine?

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Uh, I don't know, I just monster, let's just say
monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Monster, that's fine, it's good monster, equal scary
good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Oh monster cool I don't know um, I mean monster
being cool is good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Yeah, monster being cool, cool, all right.
So we're gonna hit up our nextcategory.
It's double feature.
It's where we recommend to go amovie to go alongside this
movie.
Come up with anything.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
I really I've never seen Pacific Rim.
You've never seen Pacific Rim,I can let you borrow it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
I almost thought that that's the next movie we should
do Hell yeah.
So I got this movie.
I recommend a movie calledMonsters.
It was just really fun, it'syou know, we had Hastings back
in the day.
Yeah, and then I went there andI used to just buy random
fucking movies and I saw thismovie called Monsters and I was
like, oh, that's got ScootMcNary in it.

(01:14:51):
I like that actor.
It's a monster movie and I kindof heard it was like a cool
little movie.
So I bought it and then Iwatched it and it's directed by
Gareth Edwards, who did Godzilla, the remake, godzilla Nice that
just recently came out.
He also did Rogue One until hewas kicked off for directing the
creator, and then he did themost recent Jurassic Park.
That also was a failure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
He got shoved into just indie filmmaker who made a
great low budget sci-fi monstermovie got put into Hollywood's
machine way too fast andprobably should have ground to
powder, yeah he should haveprobably made a couple other
movies where he went to thiswhole huge budget shit, but it's
a really fun movie.
It's like these octopus typealien creatures.

(01:15:34):
That's cool.
And it's like six years afterEarth has suffered an alien
invasion, a cynical journalistagrees to escort a shaken
American tourist through aninfected zone in Mexico to the
safety of the US border.
There's this, oh bro.
There's this shot where the twolike two monsters kind of like,
come up to each other and liketalk to each other.

(01:15:55):
But it's so beautiful the waythe creatures are designed and
it's just like wow, with a lowbudget, this guy made an amazing
monster movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
It seems like some people are like too slow, but I
was just like I don't know man,I like the characters.
Scoot McNary, baby Scoot McNary, Scoot all over you.
Yeah, if you haven't seenmonsters do it, you can learn
how Gareth Edwards became athing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Cool, I'll see if it's on anything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Oh yeah, I just had it up.
I should have saw.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
It's on Hulu, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Oh yeah, cool yeah, it's fun, it's a.
It's not too long, uh yeah.
So that's our conversation onCloverfield.
I'd like to apologize toanybody, um, who just heard me
talk uh very fast constantly.
My wife is my wife tells me,it's like you talk so fast.
Yeah, um, but yeah, sorry forthat.

(01:16:50):
But join us next week becausewe're gonna do probably one of
my favorite horror movies ever.
One of them.
Oh, we're gonna do evil dead 2baby we did evil dead 1 last
year.
Jason's never seen evil dead 2uh, let's say evil dead 1 is the
scarier version of what of evildead.

(01:17:11):
Evil dead 2 is like what if wehad bigger budget and it was
funnier, nice, yeah, dude, I'mactually so excited for you to
watch this and talk about.
You get the necronomicon.
I think there's less tree rapein this one.
Oh yeah, I know I guess someone, someone, they're like hey,
we'll give you some more moneyto just redo what you just did,

(01:17:33):
just less trees, less thesetrees are canceled less.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Yeah, what is it called when you're infatuated
with trees?
Something to do with Arbor Day?

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
I don't know.
Join us next week for Evil Dead2.
It's gonna be a banger.
And yeah, leave us some fanmail, man.
You know it's all in thedescription.
Just check out the description.
We got our email, or there's alink at the top.
Leave us some reviews.
Fan mail man.
You know it's all in thedescription.
Just check out the description.
We got our email and or there'sa link at the top.
Uh, leave us some reviews.
We're getting some newfollowers.
Hell yeah, baby um.
So you know, if you don'tfollow, just press the follow

(01:18:10):
button, just so I know thatyou're actually watching.
I know we have plenty.
We have quite a bit of listens.
It's just it doesn't show thatwe have followers, but I'm like,
I know people are listeningBecause you can kind of see
locations right, not like directlocations.
But yeah, yeah, make sure youfollow us, like subscribe
wherever you listen, just if youcan do it, and please review us
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It'd be great.

(01:18:31):
The more that people see hey,this podcast actually has
reviews the more people willhave a chance to actually click
on.
Though I, the more people willhave a chance to actually click
on though I'm the opposite whenI see like a podcast, because
sometimes I like to see whatother people talk about a movie
and I kind of get tired oflistening to the big podcasts
that are.
You want to be part of theconversation?
yeah so I want to hear what someof the smaller podcasts.

(01:18:52):
So if I see one that has like4.8 with 50 reviews, I'm like
let's fucking go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yeah, hell yeah.
I do that all the time and Ialways review them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Used to not, but now that I have a podcast, I
definitely review the podcast.
But yeah, sorry, man, it's this, it's this coffee, it's.
It's got me fired the fuck up.
Yeah, so that's the episode.
Thank you, joey Prosser, forour intro and outro.
You can follow on X at Mr JoeyProsser.

(01:19:21):
And well, that's it.
This has been the we RecommendPodcast.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason.
It's alive.
It's still alive.
It's alive.
Bye, mc Hammer.
Thank you for saving the day.
Thanks for watching.

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